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Winehole23
06-02-2022, 09:13 AM
On a city-by-city basis, these figures look even more galling. In San Francisco, supposedly in the midst of a historic crime spree that has been blamed on progressive district attorney Chesa Boudin (who faces a recall election next Tuesday), the Department of Police Accountability last year opened 595 cases (https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article/SF-police-crime-16931399.php) looking into alleged police wrongdoing. By far, the largest percentage of those cases, 42.6 percent, were found to be related to “neglect of duty.” In 2016, neglect of duty counted for less than a third of cases. And according to city supervisor Hillary Ronen, of all the crimes reported in San Francisco in 2021, just 8.1 percent led to arrests, the lowest rate in a decade. In cities across the country, police forces are proving historically unwilling or unable to solve crimes.
Not for nothing, clearance rates have dropped to all-time lows at the same time that police budgets have swollen to all-time highs, suggesting that more funding has actually resulted in police being less effective. “It is a great public mismatch in understanding, training, and expectations,” Baughman told me. “Increases in police officers or police budgets have not been shown to reduce crime or make us safer.”
To make matters worse, clearance rates can be easily manipulated and are not synonymous with actually solving crimes, just with making arrests. That means that those rock-bottom numbers are actually skewing reality in favor of cops, who are arresting the rightful perpetrator of a crime at rates even lower than those at which they’re clearing cases. “All they tell us is whether there has been an arrest made in a case,” Baughman said, “not whether that person is actually the one that committed the crime or is eventually convicted of the crime … That’s why I think convictions are a better measure of whether the crime was actually cleared.”
Conviction rates, which still account for wrongful convictions, are much lower than clearance rates.
Trill Clinton
06-02-2022, 09:25 AM
That city will never be the same.
ducks
06-02-2022, 09:37 AM
In 1990 Joe Biden introduced the "GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES ACT of 1990.
Since then, 92% of mass shootings have happened in Gun Free Zones, but Democrats want to blame the NRA
Thread
06-02-2022, 09:40 AM
In 1990 Joe Biden introduced the "GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES ACT of 1990.
Since then, 92% of mass shootings have happened in Gun Free Zones, but Democrats want to blame the NRA
ducks!!!
Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:23 AM
Bikers as police auxiliaries?
Feels fashy
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boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 11:25 AM
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boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 11:34 AM
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Ef-man
06-02-2022, 11:38 AM
Nothing can be done, yet Florida's GOP is ok with taking guns from its people, go figure.
Florida’s red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people.
Twice a week from her courtroom, Florida 13th Circuit Court Judge Denise Pomponio decides who in Hillsborough County can no longer be trusted with a gun.
In just the last two months, she has taken away the firearm privileges of dozens of people, including a dad accused of threatening to “shoot everyone” at his son’s school, a woman who police say attempted suicide and then accidentally shot her boyfriend during a struggle for her revolver, a husband who allegedly fired multiple rounds in the street to “blow off steam” after losing a family member, a bullied 13-year-old witnesses overheard saying, “If all of 8th grade is missing tomorrow you will know why,” and a mother arrested for brandishing a handgun at another mom after a school bus incident between their daughters.
This is Florida’s “red flag” law in action. Passed in the wake of the horrific 2018 mass shooting at a Parkland high school, the state law provides police a path to ask a judge to temporarily bar dangerous individuals from possessing or purchasing a firearm. Since its creation, Florida judges have acted more than 8,000 times to keep guns out of the hands of people authorities deemed a risk to themselves or others, according to data maintained by the Office of the State Courts Administrator.
On Tuesday, Pomponio added another one to the list: A man accused of pointing two guns at his stepfather.
“He was enjoying the whole thing,” the stepfather told the courtroom. His stepson’s wife even filmed the encounter, he said. “He said he wanted to eff me up.” One of the guns was later found in the bed of the stepson’s 11-year-old brother, a sheriff’s deputy told the courtroom.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/01/politics/florida-red-flag-law (https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/01/politics/florida-red-flag-law/index.html)
boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 11:42 AM
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Thread
06-02-2022, 11:45 AM
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Because the 18 year old is serving in the U.S. military and is issued a free assault rifle upon graduation from Basic Training.
Let us proceed...
Blake
06-02-2022, 12:11 PM
Bikers as police auxiliaries?
Feels fashy
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Lol I'd tell them to fuck off. Especially rando bikers.
Public view is public view.
ChumpDumper
06-02-2022, 12:26 PM
Bikers as police auxiliaries?
Feels fashy
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Shirts should be brown tbh.
ElNono
06-02-2022, 12:29 PM
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:lmao
SnakeBoy
06-02-2022, 01:23 PM
Democrats are haunted by political fears on the issue of gun control, making the party reluctant to completely stick its neck out on moves such as banning assault weapons.
More than 20 years after restrictions on guns were blamed in part on Al Gore’s loss in the presidential race, many Democrats still worry that being too aggressive on gun control could hurt the party’s candidates in purple states and House districts.
“If you’re someone like Raphael Warnock, it’s a complicated message. It’s a nuanced message at best,” one Democratic strategist said of the incumbent senator who is up for reelection this year in a competitive race against Republican Herschel Walker. “There’s a lot of history that scares a lot of people. It’s a slippery slope that Democrats don’t want to be on the wrong side of, particularly for front line Democrats.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/haunted-democrats-fear-gun-control-measures-could-cost-them-in-midterms/ar-AAXZQmh?ocid=uxbndlbing
Only one thing to do for Dems, put on a show and then cry Repugs stopped us :cry
boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 01:27 PM
AZzclown Alert: Spreading unfounded hate after the Uvalde shooting with Rep. Paul Gosar
The Arizona Congressman fired off a tweet — which he subsequently deleted — claiming without proof that
the Uvalde shooter was a 'transsexual leftist illegal alien.'
https://media2.sacurrent.com/sacurrent/imager/u/blog/29022345/facebook_rep._paul_gosar.jpg?cb=1654105633
https://www.sacurrent.com/news/assclown-alert-spreading-unfounded-hate-after-the-uvalde-shooting-with-rep-paul-gosar-29022342
daboom1
06-02-2022, 01:34 PM
Because the 18 year old is serving in the U.S. military and is issued a free assault rifle upon graduation from Basic Training.
Let us proceed...
gotheem
SnakeBoy
06-02-2022, 01:56 PM
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Repeal the 26th and we can talk.
SnakeBoy
06-02-2022, 02:57 PM
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Spurminator
06-02-2022, 03:11 PM
Cops bad now.
Thread
06-02-2022, 03:19 PM
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Snake!!!!!!!!!
ChumpDumper
06-02-2022, 03:21 PM
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Texas government will hold you back at gunpoint and lie about it.
The feds will go in and save your kids.
Spurminator
06-02-2022, 03:24 PM
:cry Please don't defund these government agents who hold us back at gunpoint while our kids are murdered :cry
Blake
06-02-2022, 03:32 PM
:cry Please don't defund these government agents who hold us back at gunpoint while our kids are murdered :cry
But then who will give us a ticket for vehicle registration that expired 6 days ago
Dick Jones
06-02-2022, 03:38 PM
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The Thin Blue Line crowd went ACAB real quick :lol
ChumpDumper
06-02-2022, 03:42 PM
The Thin Blue Line crowd went ACAB real quick :lol
As long as they don't have to acknowledge the humanity of anyone but white males, people like Snacks will say anything.
boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 03:49 PM
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r1183223094281980082&th=181262dbf9625cc0&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_TJ5jjy911szCc2irjztTHUVQR-UAtYL94VLc87bKEovcoNoP8E3pWjihKbAUBBvQypD0Ch3pABIm tadtkvy5ZM3lURyK5ay5m0-Hq2SgdFoaR9jIsAHUIRsk&disp=emb&realattid=ii_l3xhpq0b0
Medvedenko
06-02-2022, 05:17 PM
Because the 18 year old is serving in the U.S. military and is issued a free assault rifle upon graduation from Basic Training.
Let us proceed...
Fuck you're a dumb motherfucker. Proceed to the nearest hospice.
Thread
06-02-2022, 05:26 PM
Fuck you're a dumb motherfucker. Proceed to the nearest hospice.
Don't rush me, Meds...I'll be there by & by.
Love ya, boy.
ducks
06-02-2022, 07:47 PM
"I am convinced that a criminal who
wants a firearm can get one through
illegal, untraceable, unregistered
sources, with or without gun
control."
-Senator Joe Biden, 1985
Fuck you're a dumb motherfucker. Proceed to the nearest hospice.
Mr "not coming back" endlessly coming back
"I am convinced that a criminal who
wants a firearm can get one through
illegal, untraceable, unregistered
sources, with or without gun
control."
-Senator Joe Biden, 1985
"Gaa gaa goo goo" - Joe Biden, January 1943.
Splits
06-02-2022, 09:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUSoWgEWQAI_C2H?format=jpg&name=medium
What happened in 2004? I think we defunded mental health?
Nothing can be done.
Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:09 PM
Reportedly, Uvalde PD asked for backup -- from bikers -- to manage the media.
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Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:10 PM
"I am convinced that a criminal who
wants a firearm can get one through
illegal, untraceable, unregistered
sources, with or without gun
control."
-Senator Joe Biden, 1985Shooter waited until he was 18 because of a gun law.
Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:11 PM
But then who will give us a ticket for vehicle registration that expired 6 days agoI feel safer already.
Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:53 PM
Dollars to donuts a student gets shot by a teacher first if this passes.
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daboom1
06-03-2022, 03:00 AM
https://i.ibb.co/DQ6M0JG/20220603-025744.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qN2PLgW/20220603-025932.jpg
"Behold a Pale Horse"
-William Cooper
daboom1
06-03-2022, 03:06 AM
https://i.ibb.co/pwGJCx9/20220603-030442.jpg
ElNono
06-03-2022, 05:17 AM
Beep boop
Blake
06-03-2022, 08:30 AM
https://i.ibb.co/DQ6M0JG/20220603-025744.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qN2PLgW/20220603-025932.jpg
"Behold a Pale Horse"
-William Cooper
Was the school shooter in uvalde on Prozac?
Blake
06-03-2022, 08:31 AM
https://i.ibb.co/pwGJCx9/20220603-030442.jpg
Were these shooters on Prozac?
ducks
06-03-2022, 08:49 AM
92 percent shootings happen at gun free zones
Those laws work!
Blake
06-03-2022, 08:50 AM
92 percent shootings happen at gun free zones
Those laws work!
What would the percent be if there weren't gun free zones?
Winehole23
06-03-2022, 09:47 AM
Daniel Defense is now being sued by the teacher falsely alleged to have left the door open.
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Blake
06-03-2022, 10:02 AM
Daniel Defense is now being sued by the teacher falsely alleged to have left the door open.
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Great pic of kid learning the ways of the assault rifle
Spurminator
06-03-2022, 10:07 AM
Great pic of kid learning the ways of the assault rifle
https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/ULMC.gifhttps://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/ULMC.gifhttps://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/ULMC.gif
THAT'S NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!!!
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ChumpDumper
06-03-2022, 10:23 AM
https://i.ibb.co/DQ6M0JG/20220603-025744.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qN2PLgW/20220603-025932.jpg
"Behold a Pale Horse"
-William Cooper
You know how Bill Cooper died, Qhris?
:lol
SnakeBoy
06-03-2022, 12:56 PM
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She's a little firecracker
daboom1
06-03-2022, 01:00 PM
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She's a little firecracker
Based Boebert
Dick Jones
06-03-2022, 01:07 PM
Daniel Defense is now being sued by the teacher falsely alleged to have left the door open.
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Talk about grooming
Winehole23
06-03-2022, 01:22 PM
Talk about grooming"it's best to start when they're young"
daboom1
06-03-2022, 01:24 PM
Training a child to defend himself is grooming for Libtards :lol
Winehole23
06-03-2022, 01:32 PM
incident commander forgot to bring his radio to the scene of an active shooting
Officers who arrived at the scene, coming from at least 14 different agencies, did not go into the classrooms as sporadic gunfire could be heard inside, nor after 911 calls began arriving from children inside.
“There is a lot of bodies,” a 10-year-old student, Khloie Torres, quietly told a 911 dispatcher at 12:10 p.m. — 37 minutes after the gunman began shooting inside the classrooms — according to a review of a transcript of the call. “I don’t want to die, my teacher is dead, my teacher is dead, please send help, send help for my teacher, she is shot but still alive.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/03/us/uvalde-police-response.html
Blake
06-03-2022, 02:33 PM
Training a child to defend himself is grooming for Libtards :lol
When is a child going to use a gun to defend himself, Qris?
I know you won't answer this question, robot.
ducks
06-03-2022, 02:39 PM
"it's best to start when they're young"
Is that why they want to use rainbow colors and pregnantmen on flash cards to teach preschool colors
Spurminator
06-03-2022, 02:40 PM
Did they train the kid to hand over his weapon like a pussy at the first sign of danger? Because that seems to be standard protocol for the gun nerds.
Winehole23
06-03-2022, 02:48 PM
Selling guns to buy guns to fight guns.
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SnakeBoy
06-03-2022, 02:54 PM
Selling guns to buy guns to fight guns.
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I didn't know about this. Where can one buy these military grade weapons at a discount?
daboom1
06-03-2022, 02:56 PM
Selling guns to buy guns to fight guns.
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:tu
Winehole23
06-03-2022, 03:27 PM
"There's nothing we can do about it"
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Blake
06-03-2022, 03:27 PM
"There's nothing we can do about it"
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But how do they defend themselves against wild boars
You're in Hawaii. How much better can it get for you?
daboom1
06-03-2022, 03:48 PM
"There's nothing we can do about it"
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Who would have thought being in the middle of the ocean and having no neighboring states would be beneficial?
Selling guns to buy guns to fight guns.
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I see a lot of problems with these tweets. Highly valued items aren't sold at a discount. Sought after discounts aren't monetarily "valued" ergo not "highly valued", as if people are willing to pay more for discounted items.
Also, these "military/le style" claims are all bullshit. Other than being automatic, there's absolutely nothing on military or police weapons that civilians cannot purchase.
They absolutely did not sell fully automatic weapons to a civilian distributor. They may have sold them to other departments.
Just more "muh technical details" ignorance.
Why Don't We Regulate Semiautomatic Guns The Same Way We Regulate Automatic Ones?
KUT 90.5 | By Alain Stephens | The Trace
Same author
Go figure
Blake
06-03-2022, 05:58 PM
Who would have thought being in the middle of the ocean and having no neighboring states would be beneficial?
Gun violence has become all too common in Puerto Rico, where the firearm mortality rate was 1.7 times higher than that of the 50 states in 2018 (the last year for which data is available).10 The US Virgin Islands (USVI) also experience staggering levels of gun violence. In 2020, the archipelago11 saw a firearm homicide rate of 50 per 100,000,12 8.5 times the rate of the 50 states.
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/gun-violence-in-the-us-territories/
Now scram, bot. Do not respond.
https://i.imgur.com/BSR4oIK.jpg
vs
https://i.imgur.com/UxDRbZ0.jpg
I'll let you figure it out.
Households in Puerto Rico have a median annual income of $20,474, which is less than the median annual income of $65,712 across the entire United States. This is in comparison to a median income of $20,296 in 2018, which represents a 0.877% annual growth.
In 2020, the median household income in Hawaii amounted to 80,729 U.S. dollars. This is a decrease from the previous year, when the median household income in the state was 88,006 U.S. dollars.
spurraider21
06-03-2022, 06:54 PM
2 injured in shooting at Wisconsin cemetery during funeral (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-people-injured-shooting-wisconsin-cemetery-funeral-rcna31737)
obviously the solution here is military base level security at all cemeteries and arming the priests
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She's a little firecracker
i said this years ago. Me
Th'Pusher
06-03-2022, 06:59 PM
i said this years ago. Me
Congrats on being aligned with one of the stupidest congresspersons in the US house!
Blake
06-03-2022, 08:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BSR4oIK.jpg
vs
https://i.imgur.com/UxDRbZ0.jpg
I'll let you figure it out.
Households in Puerto Rico have a median annual income of $20,474, which is less than the median annual income of $65,712 across the entire United States. This is in comparison to a median income of $20,296 in 2018, which represents a 0.877% annual growth.
In 2020, the median household income in Hawaii amounted to 80,729 U.S. dollars. This is a decrease from the previous year, when the median household income in the state was 88,006 U.S. dollars.
Oh so for Hawaii it's being an island that makes for the low gun violence but doesn't for Puerto Rico.
I've already figured out why PR has high gun homicide rates. You'll continue to come up with any reason at all except gun laws.
Oh so for Hawaii it's being an island that makes for the low gun violence but doesn't for Puerto Rico.
I've already figured out why PR has high gun homicide rates. You'll continue to come up with any reason at all except gun laws.
You're notorious for not figuring shit out. I don't buy it.
Congrats on being aligned with one of the stupidest congresspersons in the US house!
The message isn't stupid, only the messenger. Dems drive gun sales 100x more than conservatives.
Th'Pusher
06-03-2022, 10:10 PM
The message isn't stupid, only the messenger. Dems drive gun sales 100x more than conservatives.
Link?
Dick Jones
06-03-2022, 10:15 PM
Who would have thought being in the middle of the ocean and having no neighboring states would be beneficial?
Explain why any of that matters. Chop chop.
Link?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270618
Our analysis suggests that the most deadly mass shootings have continued to occur in close proximity to the spike in gun sales. Beginning in late 2011, related and proportional spikes in gun sales occurred in 1 months to 3 months immediately following each subsequent shooting on the deadliest list. Each one lasted approximately 2 months to 3 months following the event, and in the case of rapid succession events, the effect appeared additive.
This finding is consistent with studies performed on the increase in background checks following these events which show a relatively early increase that tapers fairly rapidly within 3 months to 6 months of an incident,29 and are also consistent with related analyses that have shown a proportional spike in federal background checks and sales following selected mass shootings including SH.13,16,30,31 In the current study, the largest spike occurred immediately following the SH shooting where the rate of gun sales was more than double the UCL and only exceeded by the last month of available data (December 2015).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7369030/
So once again, I told you this years ago. It's obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the gun trade.
Thread
06-03-2022, 10:30 PM
Our analysis suggests that the most deadly mass shootings have continued to occur in close proximity to the spike in gun sales. Beginning in late 2011, related and proportional spikes in gun sales occurred in 1 months to 3 months immediately following each subsequent shooting on the deadliest list. Each one lasted approximately 2 months to 3 months following the event, and in the case of rapid succession events, the effect appeared additive.
This finding is consistent with studies performed on the increase in background checks following these events which show a relatively early increase that tapers fairly rapidly within 3 months to 6 months of an incident,29 and are also consistent with related analyses that have shown a proportional spike in federal background checks and sales following selected mass shootings including SH.13,16,30,31 In the current study, the largest spike occurred immediately following the SH shooting where the rate of gun sales was more than double the UCL and only exceeded by the last month of available data (December 2015).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7369030/
So once again, I told you this years ago. It's obvious to anyone not completely ignorant of the gun trade.
Which must prompt each American to double their stockpile of guns, double their cache of ammunition AND learn how to build your own ammo.
Blake
06-03-2022, 11:01 PM
The message isn't stupid, only the messenger. Dems drive gun sales 100x more than conservatives.
Link?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270618
Lol links himself.
What a tool
Blake
06-03-2022, 11:03 PM
You're notorious for not figuring shit out. I don't buy it.
Lol, you shit on Qris while being wrong at the same time.
Th'Pusher
06-03-2022, 11:38 PM
The message isn't stupid, only the messenger. Dems drive gun sales 100x more than conservatives.
Link?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270618
Oh, I’m sorry. I don’t think you understood the ask. I was asking you to support this claim
Dems drive gun sales 100x more than conservatives.
Words are important. Don’t be sloppy.
ElNono
06-04-2022, 12:10 AM
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She's a little firecracker
lol didn't watch... she's dumb as a rock
ElNono
06-04-2022, 12:13 AM
Training a child to defend himself is grooming for Libtards :lol
:lol the gun is bigger than the kid... "defend himself"
:lol should use it to kill his pedo christian priest
:lol today's magatards
ElNono
06-04-2022, 12:18 AM
Who would have thought being in the middle of the ocean and having no neighboring states would be beneficial?
True, they can actually enforce working gun regulations because they don't have stupid states around...
Blake
06-04-2022, 12:23 AM
Oh, I’m sorry. I don’t think you understood the ask.
Oh another DMC comprehension fail. No way.
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 12:53 AM
Making pussies with badges and guns look bad violates probation?
The judge they hauled her in front of didn't think so.
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https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1532935684645867522?s=20&t=KJA166892sx0O0yraGGFXw
Ef-man
06-04-2022, 12:53 AM
:lol the gun is bigger than the kid... "defend himself"
:lol should use it to kill his pedo christian priest
:lol today's magatards
Give guns to pre-K and up so they can defend themselves and stand their ground at school.
22 magnum firearms have very light recoil and a little derringer will fit fine in their small hands.
Enough of infringing on the 2A rights of children, let them put down the crazies that police, teachers, and politicians won’t touch!
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 12:58 AM
Just a hunch, they're covering up something worse than what we already know.
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Blake
06-04-2022, 08:38 AM
Just a hunch, they're covering up something worse than what we already know.
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Not sure how it could get worse for them
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 08:58 AM
Not sure how it could get worse for themIf it turns out someone other than the shooter shot a kid or a teacher and they lied about it -- remember the oddly specifically worded, out of the blue disclaimer?
Thread
06-04-2022, 09:05 AM
Not sure how it could get worse for them
Just seeing them give State run media CNN a hard row to hoe is glorious.
Lol links himself.
What a tool
I was calling Boebert stupid. Her comments aren't based on her own research, and even a fool can deliver the truth. You ooze despair. I honestly hope you heal.
Oh, I’m sorry. I don’t think you understood the ask. I was asking you to support this claim
Words are important. Don’t be sloppy.
I gave you an excerpt and a gov link already. It's irrefutable even if you try to spin it (which you will).
Thread
06-04-2022, 09:27 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/06/918/516/Deaf-and-Dumb-06.04.22.png?ve=1&tl=1
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 09:28 AM
"we believe that all the children that were shot and killed were shot by Salvador Ramos and not anyone else"
pgardn
06-04-2022, 09:40 AM
I read this claim:
This massacre could have been carried out with a knife.
Investors anticipate that the violence—and the political rhetoric about gun control that inevitably follows—will prompt more people to buy guns and stock up on ammunition. It’s true gun sales typically rise after a mass shooting as more people arm themselves, ostensibly, to defend themselves against future shooters (although there’s no clear evidence that using a gun in self-defense reduces the likelihood of being injured in an attack). Others rush to buy guns in the belief that lawmakers will soon enact stricter restrictions on gun sales.
The opposite often happens. States with Republican-led legislatures typically loosen gun restrictions after mass shootings; states with Democratic legislatures typically don’t act. In the decade since a mass shooter killed 20 young children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, the US Congress has failed to push through even modest gun control bills that would expand background checks for gun buyers or ban high-capacity gun magazines.
https://qz.com/2170147/gun-and-ammo-stocks-soar-after-the-uvalde-mass-shooting/
https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
"we believe that all the children that were shot and killed were shot by Salvador Ramos and not anyone else"
You can always hope, as long as the results aren't in yet you can always hope, WH.
I read this claim:
This massacre could have been carried out with a knife.
Which you cannot refute.
I read this claim: "I invented finer points of the ELISA assay"
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 09:46 AM
Making pussies with badges and guns look bad violates probation?
The judge they hauled her in front of didn't think so.
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https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1532935684645867522?s=20&t=KJA166892sx0O0yraGGFXwPolice told her speaking to the media would be obstruction of justice.
The judge shortened her probation.
On March 1, 2014, a group of eight male and female attackers wielding knives attacked a railway station at Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan, in the southwest of China.[5] 31 people were killed and a further 141 were wounded from the knife attack at the crowded railway station.
At 2:20 am on 26 July 2016, a man launched a knife attack at a center for the disabled people at Sagamihara, a town west of Tokyo, Japan.[7] During the knife attack, 19 residents of the care center were killed, including nine men and ten women.[7] An additional 26 people were wounded during the incident.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 09:52 AM
Which you cannot refute.
I read this claim: "I invented finer points of the ELISA assay"
Oh I totally disagree with the claim of said Hoover salesman.
As any sane person would who has never been in a school.
A knife...
Kids running around screaming, no gunfire, someone enters with a bat, situation over.
You would be slipping a sliding in blood after taking out two kids that would still be running around bleeding.
Such Horseshit.
and your quote above is like saying I decided to put different tires on a machine that people actually invented an internal combustion engine to drive around in (to fit out purposes). Like cars have never changed ever from the model T.
but you keep doing you.
Oh I totally disagree with the claim of said Hoover salesman.
As any sane person would who has never been in a school.
A knife...
Kids running around screaming, no gunfire, someone enters with a bat, situation over.
You would be slipping a sliding in blood after taking out two kids that would still be running around bleeding.
Such Horseshit.
and your quote above is like saying I decided to put different tires on a machine that people actually invented an internal combustion engine to drive around in (to fit out purposes). Like cars have never changed ever from the model T.
but you keep doing you.
On March 1, 2014, a group of eight male and female attackers wielding knives attacked a railway station at Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan, in the southwest of China.[5] 31 people were killed and a further 141 were wounded from the knife attack at the crowded railway station.
At 2:20 am on 26 July 2016, a man launched a knife attack at a center for the disabled people at Sagamihara, a town west of Tokyo, Japan.[7] During the knife attack, 19 residents of the care center were killed, including nine men and ten women.[7] An additional 26 people were wounded during the incident.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 09:57 AM
On March 1, 2014, a group of eight male and female attackers wielding knives attacked a railway station at Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan, in the southwest of China.[5] 31 people were killed and a further 141 were wounded from the knife attack at the crowded railway station.
At 2:20 am on 26 July 2016, a man launched a knife attack at a center for the disabled people at Sagamihara, a town west of Tokyo, Japan.[7] During the knife attack, 19 residents of the care center were killed, including nine men and ten women.[7] An additional 26 people were wounded during the incident.
Oh exactly the same situation.
As I said before you have never been in a school with rooms next to each other.
And I also noted it could be carried out with sedated kids on gurneys, which would take care of your care center.
Do you know 3rd and 4th graders can move and are quite energetic and very resilient... No you dont. Id love to see you try and pull it off old man.
DMC can get it done with a knife. He good. A real killer.
Besides, it was an indictment of the police response, not an excuse for the gun. Given an hour in a locked room with small kids, you could inflict a lot of damage even with your bare fists.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:02 AM
Besides, it was an indictment of the police response, not an excuse for the gun. Given an hour in a locked room with small kids, you could inflict a lot of damage even with your bare fists.
You would kill every one of them?
Hell you would not have time to figure out if they were dead or not dumbass.
You know how you figure out it they are dead like the killer in Uvalde. when the kids lay there bleeding, you blow their bodies apart a number of times.
Make sure their heads explode so you dont even know who the are, that is how you make sure they are dead. And again DMC has not idea why people stayed away from that room. Idiot...
No guns would never ever would be the appropriate weapon for such a task. Run a car into the school incoming... with articles posted of people getting run over in a parade. Go with it.
Oh exactly the same situation.
As I said before you have never been in a school with rooms next to each other.
And I also noted it could be carried out with sedated kids on gurneys, which would take care of your care center.
Do you know 3rd and 4th graders can move and are quite energetic and very resilient... No you dont. Id love to see you try and pull it off old man.
DMC can get it done with a knife. He good. A real killer.
Disabled isn't the same as sedated. You have no idea what rooms I've been in. Adjoining classrooms are common (which is what I think you meant because all buildings have rooms next to each other). You'd love to see me try to kill a room full of kids? Jesus, I hope you're not a teacher.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:04 AM
Disabled isn't the same as sedated. You have no idea what rooms I've been in. Adjoining classrooms are common (which is what I think you meant because all buildings have rooms next to each other). You'd love to see me try to kill a room full of kids? Jesus, I hope you're not a teacher.
Keep that deflection up over an absolutely dumb ass statement.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:06 AM
DMC:
"Why the killer took the time to get an AR is a mystery. A knife would have worked"
Killer decides on the AR for no good reason.
Lets keep going.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:12 AM
Disabled isn't the same as sedated. You have no idea what rooms I've been in. Adjoining classrooms are common (which is what I think you meant because all buildings have rooms next to each other).
These kids are not disabled in a way that makes them easy targets dumbass.
So DMC has never ever been in an elementary school, so I dont know what rooms he has been in.
Lovely stuff...
DMC can even chase chickens down in a pen and kill them with a knife. No problem.
DMC:
"Why the killer took the time to get an AR is a mystery. A knife would have worked"
Killer decides on the AR for no good reason.
Lets keep going.
keep changing the story, maybe you'll come back around eventually to the truth.
These kids are not disabled in a way that makes them easy targets dumbass.
So DMC has never ever been in an elementary school, so I dont know what rooms he has been in.
Lovely stuff...
DMC can even chase chickens down in a pen and kill them with a knife. No problem.
Narrative mode means you already surrendered and are now calling for backup.
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:17 AM
I was calling Boebert stupid. Her comments aren't based on her own research, and even a fool can deliver the truth. You ooze despair. I honestly hope you heal.
No. Your reading comprehension still really blows.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:20 AM
Narrative mode means you already surrendered and are now calling for backup.
Bottom line:
Your knife example is a horrible argument.
you can deflect and project all you want, it aint gonna change a thing.
Even though you are above the rest of the gunowners by not being a part of the general public.
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 10:20 AM
"They'll just switch to knives" is a super convincing hypothesis. You should stick with that, profe. Using it repeatedly makes it even more persuasive.
:tu
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:20 AM
I read this claim:
This massacre could have been carried out with a knife.
With a vehicle
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 10:21 AM
With a vehicleBetter chance of getting away with it, if people die it's usually just manslaughter.
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:22 AM
I read this claim:
This massacre could have been carried out with a knife.
Which you cannot refute.
I read this claim: "I invented finer points of the ELISA assay"
What's the cost for knife-proofing doors and windows?
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:23 AM
With a vehicle
A vehicle wielding a knife in a threating manner would be concerning.
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:24 AM
Narrative mode means you already surrendered and are now calling for backup.
Will remind you for later.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:25 AM
What's the cost for knife-proofing doors and windows?
DMC can easily pick a lock with a knife so thats one method taken care of.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 10:27 AM
Narrative mode means you are mocking me which I find uncomfortable.
"He changed my fkn quote"
What's the cost for knife-proofing doors and windows?
You should focus on cock proofing your spouse.
"He changed my fkn quote"
You win the Whitehouse and all hell breaks loose. Must be the other side.
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:37 AM
Narrative mode means you already surrendered and are now calling for backup.
You should focus on cock proofing your spouse.
That was quick
Thread
06-04-2022, 10:37 AM
You win the Whitehouse and all hell breaks loose. Must be the other side.
D M C
SnakeBoy
06-04-2022, 10:44 AM
Give guns to pre-K and up so they can defend themselves and stand their ground at school.
22 magnum firearms have very light recoil and a little derringer will fit fine in their small hands.
Enough of infringing on the 2A rights of children, let them put down the crazies that police, teachers, and politicians won’t touch!
Does a 22 magnum stick in the lung or blow the lung right out of the body?
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 10:51 AM
DMC arguing for moar gunz and hardened schools unwittingly did a reductio ad absurdum. It's perfectly rational, but he apparently fails to see the absurdity.
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Blake
06-04-2022, 10:53 AM
Does a 22 magnum stick in the lung or blow the lung right out of the body?
It's a kitchen knife that can blow the lung right out of the body
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 11:15 AM
Ramos could have used a connection like this when he wanted to buy a gun before he was 18. Stupid gun laws.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdin/pr/former-ohio-police-chief-sentenced-illegally-trafficking-200-fully-automatic-machine
Thread
06-04-2022, 11:20 AM
Ramos could have used a connection like this when he wanted to buy a gun before he was 18. Stupid gun laws.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdin/pr/former-ohio-police-chief-sentenced-illegally-trafficking-200-fully-automatic-machine
Just remember & don't forget...Him Colored.
ChumpDumper
06-04-2022, 11:53 AM
Investors anticipate that the violence—and the political rhetoric about gun control that inevitably follows—will prompt more people to buy guns and stock up on ammunition. It’s true gun sales typically rise after a mass shooting as more people arm themselves, ostensibly, to defend themselves against future shooters (although there’s no clear evidence that using a gun in self-defense reduces the likelihood of being injured in an attack). Others rush to buy guns in the belief that lawmakers will soon enact stricter restrictions on gun sales.
The opposite often happens. States with Republican-led legislatures typically loosen gun restrictions after mass shootings; states with Democratic legislatures typically don’t act. In the decade since a mass shooter killed 20 young children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, the US Congress has failed to push through even modest gun control bills that would expand background checks for gun buyers or ban high-capacity gun magazines.
https://qz.com/2170147/gun-and-ammo-stocks-soar-after-the-uvalde-mass-shooting/
https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
So your fear drives gun and ammo sales.:tu
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 11:54 AM
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Blake
06-04-2022, 12:00 PM
Ramos could have used a connection like this when he wanted to buy a gun before he was 18. Stupid gun laws.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdin/pr/former-ohio-police-chief-sentenced-illegally-trafficking-200-fully-automatic-machine
He could have just driven a vehicle
That was quick
You notice I didn't say "Blake should". You always revert to talking to a perceived audience. You're a weird fucker. Talking straight to you isn't narrating.
Blake
06-04-2022, 12:01 PM
So your fear drives gun and ammo sales.:tu
Conservative fear mongering is great for biz
ChumpDumper
06-04-2022, 12:03 PM
Conservative fear mongering is great for bizMan, they HATE it when their fear is pointed out to them.
:lol tough guys
DMC arguing for moar gunz and hardened schools unwittingly did a reductio ad absurdum. It's perfectly rational, but he apparently fails to see the absurdity.
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Where did I argue for more guns?
Also, the dishonesty in you is palpable. You did the same thing with the "comparing Kyle Rittenhouse to the shooter" lie, assuming you're not retarded. In this tweet you puked out here, they compare your choice to wear a mask to forcing other people to do things. If you're forced to wear a mask, yes that's living in fear. I'd say the posts from the left here are indeed an indication of living in fear.
Blake
06-04-2022, 12:03 PM
You notice I didn't say "Blake should". You always revert to talking to a perceived audience. You're a weird fucker. Talking straight to you isn't narrating.
If you don't know what "narrative" means you should Google it. It's really easy to do.
And lol your narrative surrender rule applies to others but not you. Lol you're such an idiot.
ChumpDumper
06-04-2022, 12:04 PM
There are currently 23 users browsing this thread.
:lol "perceived audience"
If you don't know what "narrative" means you should Google it. It's really easy to do.
And lol your narrative surrender rule applies to others but not you. Lol you're such an idiot.
nar·ra·tive
/ˈnerədiv/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a spoken or written account of connected events; a story.
You don't understand the difference between talking to someone and talking to an audience about someone, you don't understand narrative voice.
I see sister shaky is trying to dial in to the show. :lol
Ef-man
06-04-2022, 12:21 PM
Does a 22 magnum stick in the lung or blow the lung right out of the body?
Between the eyes, it separates the soul from the body. Striking a bunion, it makes you wish you had died (ask your mama).
Blake
06-04-2022, 12:27 PM
nar·ra·tive
/ˈnerədiv/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a spoken or written account of connected events; a story.
You don't understand the difference between talking to someone and talking to an audience about someone, you don't understand narrative voice.
I understand when you're in Blake personal life narrative mode, it's because you're flailing. Every time.
Trill Clinton
06-04-2022, 12:34 PM
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Thread
06-04-2022, 12:36 PM
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Drama queen alert!!!
ChumpDumper
06-04-2022, 12:37 PM
I see sister shaky is trying to dial in to the show. :lol:lol you started your day posting about me
Ef-man
06-04-2022, 01:03 PM
:lol you started your day posting about me
Wait, doesn’t Chuncko have you on ignore? :lol
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 01:06 PM
1532867127757127686lol the random dude telling him to stop living in the past
I understand when you're in Blake personal life narrative mode, it's because you're flailing. Every time.
Damns (Given): 0
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 01:07 PM
"Out of respect for grieving families" seems to be the most available excuse for official stonewalling so far
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Why are you so stove up to push that narrative that cops shot a kid or a teacher?
Blake
06-04-2022, 01:10 PM
Damns (Given): 0
Every time :lol
Odd how you never have a real conversation with anyone.
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 01:13 PM
Why are you so stove up to push that narrative that cops shot a kid or a teacher?the available reporting suggests it, a kid saying he/she got shot after calling out to a cop was caught on camera. the preemptive disclaimer about "all children that were shot and killed" raises questions about those who merely got shot.
also seems clear LE is not being totally forthcoming about stuff we don't know
If we ever see the ballistics report we'll know
Blake
06-04-2022, 01:13 PM
"Out of respect for grieving families" seems to be the most available excuse for official stonewalling so far
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It's getting tricky to separate out from uvalde pd and the school district pd. Did the school police get body cams too? Just curious
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 01:16 PM
It's getting tricky to separate out from uvalde pd and the school district pd. Did the school police get body cams too? Just curiousgood question. The composition of the force waiting in the hallway isn't 100% clear either.
Blake
06-04-2022, 02:03 PM
Odd how you never have a real conversation with anyone.
Odd this is coming from dude that tells others dudes to bend over when the thread isn't going his way
Blake
06-04-2022, 02:07 PM
good question. The composition of the force waiting in the hallway isn't 100% clear either.
I just happened to finally catch the other day that Arredondo is chief of the ISD police. I thought he was city chief.
Blake
06-04-2022, 02:18 PM
Lawyers for the family of a 10-year-old victim of a Uvalde gunman have requested marketing material from the Georgia-based manufacturer behind the AR-15-style assault rifle used to kill 21 people at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary School.
The legal team, which is representing relatives of Amerie Jo Garza, hasn’t filed a lawsuit. But one of its members won a $73 million settlement for nine families of victims in the Sandy Hook shooting after pioneering a legal theory that the marketing of the gun used in that shooting violated fair-trade laws in Connecticut....
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/03/uvalde-school-shooting-lawyers/
Odd this is coming from dude that tells others dudes to bend over when the thread isn't going his way
All you do is parrot what you just read like a 12 year old on a school bus "you're a doo doo head, I know you are, I know you are.. doo doo head"
I just happened to finally catch the other day that Arredondo is chief of the ISD police. I thought he was city chief.
No doubt, you're a low information poster. You don't need to know facts before broadcasting your shitty opinion.
koriwhat
06-04-2022, 02:37 PM
Don't worry BlaKKKe your daughter is safe in a well protected, pricey, and privileged Catholic school.
the available reporting suggests it, a kid saying he/she got shot after calling out to a cop was caught on camera. the preemptive disclaimer about "all children that were shot and killed" raises questions about those who merely got shot.
also seems clear LE is not being totally forthcoming about stuff we don't know
If we ever see the ballistics report we'll know
Do you think there's a "muh entertainment" responsibility departments have to news agencies?
Dick Jones
06-04-2022, 03:01 PM
Blake seriously triggered him today :lol
Blake
06-04-2022, 03:37 PM
All you do is parrot what you just read like a 12 year old on a school bus "you're a doo doo head, I know you are, I know you are.. doo doo head"
That's all I have to do, doo doo head. You post fallacies, contradictions and struggle to back up your shit opinions. It takes little effort to put you down.
Blake
06-04-2022, 03:37 PM
No doubt, you're a low information poster. You don't need to know facts before broadcasting your shitty opinion.
I mean, this post could not be any richer.
spurraider21
06-04-2022, 04:56 PM
On March 1, 2014, a group of eight male and female attackers wielding knives attacked a railway station at Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan, in the southwest of China.[5] 31 people were killed and a further 141 were wounded from the knife attack at the crowded railway station.
At 2:20 am on 26 July 2016, a man launched a knife attack at a center for the disabled people at Sagamihara, a town west of Tokyo, Japan.[7] During the knife attack, 19 residents of the care center were killed, including nine men and ten women.[7] An additional 26 people were wounded during the incident.
tell me why we give cops and members of the military guns and not just knives
though while you're on the subject of murders in china and japan, tell me what their murder rates look like compared to the US
im sure the overall data lines up with your anecdotal google
Blake
06-04-2022, 05:28 PM
tell me why we give cops and members of the military guns and not just knives
Look if Russia wanted to kill Ukraine troops with vans they easily could. They just prefer to use shitty artillery
Isitjustme?
06-04-2022, 05:32 PM
Where did I argue for more guns?
Also, the dishonesty in you is palpable. You did the same thing with the "comparing Kyle Rittenhouse to the shooter" lie, assuming you're not retarded. In this tweet you puked out here, they compare your choice to wear a mask to forcing other people to do things. If you're forced to wear a mask, yes that's living in fear. I'd say the posts from the left here are indeed an indication of living in fear.
Such courage to post this.
Thread
06-04-2022, 05:34 PM
Look if Russia wanted to kill Ukraine troops with vans they easily could. They just prefer to use shitty artillery
60-100 dead per day is a fine yield, Blake.
Trill Clinton
06-04-2022, 07:32 PM
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pgardn
06-04-2022, 07:35 PM
tell me why we give cops and members of the military guns and not just knives
though while you're on the subject of murders in china and japan, tell me what their murder rates look like compared to the US
im sure the overall data lines up with your anecdotal google
He made a ridiculous argument and that calls for a ridiculously different situation which DMC merits comparable.
He does this shit constantly.
next:
"Im sure I can find a news story of a few wheel chair ridden people murdered by stoning, even using rocks the size of pebbles. Or I might go with an avalanche killing a large herd (school) of goats"
DarrinS
06-04-2022, 07:45 PM
We require a lot of training for a driver's license. Why not an equal amount of training to buy a weapon?
We require a lot of training for a driver's license. Why not an equal amount of training to buy a weapon?
Apples to oranges. We don't require training to buy a car.
tell me why we give cops and members of the military guns and not just knives
though while you're on the subject of murders in china and japan, tell me what their murder rates look like compared to the US
im sure the overall data lines up with your anecdotal google
I'm not sure what you're arguing against. I didn't say knives are as effective as guns. I said he could have killed the same people given that same time in a locked room. Somehow that's morphed into a "which is more effective, guns or knives" argument. That's another straw man. I showed that a lot of people can be killed by a knife wielding person intent on killing them, in a situation where they are basically defenseless.
That's all I have to do, doo doo head. You post fallacies, contradictions and struggle to back up your shit opinions. It takes little effort to put you down.
But you lack the mental acuity to challenge anything I say with something more powerful than "I know you are, what am I?" or "DMC thinks...".
pgardn
06-04-2022, 09:39 PM
I'm not sure what you're arguing against. I didn't say knives are as effective as guns. I said he could have killed the same people given that same time in a locked room. Somehow that's morphed into a "which is more effective, guns or knives" argument. That's another straw man. I showed that a lot of people can be killed by a knife wielding person intent on killing them, in a situation where they are basically defenseless.
Bull shit.
Guns are much more effective at killing.
You are so full of crap.
Morphed into? YOU suggested the same thing could have been done at that school with a knife.
That is a stupid fantasy land statement. It just is but you cant handle being made a fool of.
Given that much time... Like no one is going to know with all the commotion and WITHOUT gunfire keeping people in place.
Its a stupid argument. And you assign mental disorders to other posters...Mirror time for you.
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure what you're arguing against. I didn't say knives are as effective as guns. I said he could have killed the same people given that same time in a locked room. Somehow that's morphed into a "which is more effective, guns or knives" argument. That's another straw man. I showed that a lot of people can be killed by a knife wielding person intent on killing them, in a situation where they are basically defenseless.
Rofl "in certain situations"
Disingenuous mc going to work
Blake
06-04-2022, 10:09 PM
But you lack the mental acuity to challenge anything I say with something more powerful than "I know you are, what am I?" or "DMC thinks...".
You've been challenged here several times and you sidestepped or backed down. It was easy.
You still have a school defense budget to supply and you have to prove Dems are responsible for gun sales claim.
Yeah all you get is stuff like lol "DMC thinks the state can spend all this money easily on bullet proof windows..." Until you back your shit opinions up.
Lol pseudo intellectual clowns like DMC crack me up
Ef-man
06-04-2022, 10:14 PM
Apples to oranges. We don't require training to buy a car.
You would need training to demonstrate you know how to properly and safely operate one, dumbass, that was his point.
Dick Jones
06-04-2022, 10:25 PM
You would need training to demonstrate you know how to properly and safely operate one, dumbass, that was his point.
Desperate Man-Child knows this, he would just rather sound stupid than ever admit defeat on the internet.
daboom1
06-04-2022, 10:36 PM
Bull shit.
Guns are much more effective at killing.
You are so full of crap.
Morphed into? YOU suggested the same thing could have been done at that school with a knife.
That is a stupid fantasy land statement. It just is but you cant handle being made a fool of.
Given that much time... Like no one is going to know with all the commotion and WITHOUT gunfire keeping people in place.
Its a stupid argument. And you assign mental disorders to other posters...Mirror time for you.
Dems are better at killing - 63 million dead children and counting.
HemisfairArena
06-04-2022, 10:50 PM
You dont need proper training to handle or buy a knife,,,,and plenty of murders have been committed by stabbing,,,,we gonna ban knives?
HemisfairArena
06-04-2022, 10:52 PM
We require a lot of training for a driver's license. Why not an equal amount of training to buy a weapon?
Like a knife,,,, let me know when they require an equal amount of training to buy a knife,,,,
HemisfairArena
06-04-2022, 10:55 PM
Or rope,,,plenty of people strangled throughout history,,,lets ban rope or at least require proper training,,,,lmao
Bull shit.
Guns are much more effective at killing.
You are so full of crap.
Morphed into? YOU suggested the same thing could have been done at that school with a knife.
That is a stupid fantasy land statement. It just is but you cant handle being made a fool of.
Given that much time... Like no one is going to know with all the commotion and WITHOUT gunfire keeping people in place.
Its a stupid argument. And you assign mental disorders to other posters...Mirror time for you.
Do you understand a specific event vs "in general"? Of course not. You do have a mental disorder. Pretty sure it's quite apparent to others.
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 10:56 PM
Dp
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 10:57 PM
Do you think there's a "muh entertainment" responsibility departments have to news agencies?what's a " 'muh entertainment' responsibility department"?
Honest question, I have no idea what you're talking about.
You've been challenged here several times and you sidestepped or backed down. It was easy.
You still have a school defense budget to supply and you have to prove Dems are responsible for gun sales claim.
Yeah all you get is stuff like lol "DMC thinks the state can spend all this money easily on bullet proof windows..." Until you back your shit opinions up.
Lol pseudo intellectual clowns like DMC crack me up
You're an extremely low information poster. Challenges from you to provide anything are basically just noise, since you can't discern truth from fiction, being that you're ignorant.
what's a " 'muh entertainment' responsibility department"?
Honest question, I have no idea what you're talking about.
You're having a reading comprehension issue. Move your quotes to where mine are and it makes more sense.
Do you think police departments have a responsibility to answer questions from news agencies just to keep enquiring minds satiated?
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 11:05 PM
You're having a reading comprehension issue. Move your quotes to where mine are and it makes more sense.
Do you think police departments have a responsibility to answer questions from news agencies just to keep enquiring minds satiated?they have a responsibility to tell the truth to the public and to explain their fuckups, yeah.
Winehole23
06-04-2022, 11:10 PM
Police are civil servants, no?
pgardn
06-04-2022, 11:33 PM
Do you understand a specific event vs "in general"? Of course not. You do have a mental disorder. Pretty sure it's quite apparent to others.
Oh thats what you are going to flee to now.
You set up a stupid example, get slapped around, and then say I have a mental disorder...
Poor grumpa cant take the L.
pgardn
06-04-2022, 11:41 PM
DMC proclaims what’s apparent….?
What is apparent is you are incapable of admitting you wrote something very stupid.
clambake
06-05-2022, 12:14 AM
Closing this school forever. Probably too emotional for cops if something else happens there.
Might as well close the Alamo too.
2 places where they fucked around and found out.
they have a responsibility to tell the truth to the public and to explain their fuckups, yeah.
Is there a rule on how much time can elapse before they are in violation of this responsibility?
Police are civil servants, no?
They are public servants.
Closing this school forever. Probably too emotional for cops if something else happens there.
Might as well close the Alamo too.
2 places where they fucked around and found out.
So the kids fucked around and found out? This is your mouth overloading your fat ass, quite a task but you managed.
Blake
06-05-2022, 12:31 AM
You're an extremely low information poster. Challenges from you to provide anything are basically just noise, since you can't discern truth from fiction, being that you're ignorant.
You've got two claims you've made, still pending.
Lol you'll never back them up. You're an idiot
Oh thats what you are going to flee to now.
You set up a stupid example, get slapped around, and then say I have a mental disorder...
Poor grumpa cant take the L.
I said it since the beginning, you're not aware enough to comprehend it, and you suffer from little man syndrome.
You've got two claims you've made, still pending.
Lol you'll never back them up. You're an idiot
Shaky lite trying to bow up :lol
daboom1
06-05-2022, 01:46 AM
So the kids fucked around and found out? This is your mouth overloading your fat ass, quite a task but you managed.
:lol
ChumpDumper
06-05-2022, 01:49 AM
DMC claims the kids were fucking around because they weren't on a military base.
clambake
06-05-2022, 02:11 AM
Gravy boat should have said “he’s just scoreboarding”, but he didn’t.
It’s funny because he’s fat!
pgardn
06-05-2022, 07:47 AM
I said it since the beginning, you're not aware enough to comprehend it, and you suffer from little man syndrome.
Yet you took on the stupid knife theory and directed towards me and kept at your losing untenable statement.
Put me on ignore if you can’t handle it.
And at some point you need to come to terms with exactly what is wrong with me (and others). You keep changing my defect.
You are starting to sound like you are referring to yourself.
It’s an improvement in your state of confusion if YOU actually realize it.
Spurminator
06-05-2022, 10:17 AM
Damn, Chucho and koriwhat better get in here stat, it's a bloodbath.
https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/little-big-man-who-regardless-260nw-100936180.jpg
:lol
Yet you took on the stupid knife theory and directed towards me and kept at your losing untenable statement.
Put me on ignore if you can’t handle it.
:lol "theory"
I don't want you on ignore. I like you just like this, all triggered.
And at some point you need to come to terms with exactly what is wrong with me (and others). You keep changing my defect.
You are starting to sound like you are referring to yourself.
It’s an improvement in your state of confusion if YOU actually realize it.
You're not restricted to one defect, you have many.
ChumpDumper
06-05-2022, 10:43 AM
DMC's hands are still shaking.
Dick Jones
06-05-2022, 10:51 AM
My goodness, the stink of desperation is all over this thread :lol
Thread
06-05-2022, 10:58 AM
My goodness, the stink of desperation is all over this thread :lol
Bend over. I'll show ya the stink of fuckin' desperation.
pgardn
06-05-2022, 11:10 AM
:lol "theory"
I don't want you on ignore. I like you just like this, all triggered.
You're not restricted to one defect, you have many.
Basically YOU said the Uvalde massacre could have been carried out with a knife. Implying that knifes are just another weapon one can found in their house hold kitchen, like a gun, that could have carried out that massacre. I gave you the reasons of why this was a terrifyingly stupid suggestion. And you wont back off it.
OH, So now I have multiple defects because you made yet another ridiculous argument. I gather defects as YOU make stupefyingly silly arguments.
And now you choose to just bathe in your destruction; wallow in your slaughter. Ok then.
Keep going.
:lol obviously
Wow, a second straight appearance from Good Guy With A Gun. Too bad he once again failed to accomplish anything.
I heard the DPS interview. They couldn't even get into the school with the initial set of force who responded because the shooter was targeting them from inside. They had to wait for the tactical unit to get there.
But the "good guy with a gun" BS will survive in perpetuity. Anyone care to guess where this bullshit phrase originated? Yeah, NRA's Lapierre introduced that into the vernacular a week after Sandy Hook. Fucking disingenuous bastards who believe this garbage.
And at Uvalde
So Whiny Liberal Cuck and Good Guy With A Gun both accomplished nothing here :tu glad we agree.
nope. Nigga shot one of the bp agents. They had to wait for a tactical team to go in because dude was geared like a SEAL
Mountains of "wrong" here. This is how shit like this starts on this forum, all this posturing with wrong information and this is where opinions are formed. After this the situation is basically tuned out. None of these posters give 2 shits about the truth, they just want their moment to be pithy and move along.
ChumpDumper
06-05-2022, 11:19 AM
:lol we don't even have the full story now
Stop shaking, DMC.
lefty
06-05-2022, 11:23 AM
🫡
https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1533083275635269632
Dick Jones
06-05-2022, 11:36 AM
My goodness, the stink of desperation is all over this thread :lol
The stink has somehow gotten even stronger :lmao
Ef-man
06-05-2022, 11:41 AM
Chuncko the honest broker, because only he knows the truth. :lmao :lmao :lmao
Thread
06-05-2022, 12:00 PM
Just remember & don't forget...Him Colored.
https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1533083275635269632
:lol "Texas dad"
Now, raising two daughters in Oregon, he's always kept his weapons, including a custom-built AR-15 gun, locked in a safe.
The core of the left ideology is dishonesty, greed and stupidity
ChumpDumper
06-05-2022, 12:16 PM
:lol DMC hands shaking as he types "the left"
Basically YOU said the Uvalde massacre could have been carried out with a knife. Implying that knifes are just another weapon one can found in their house hold kitchen, like a gun, that could have carried out that massacre. I gave you the reasons of why this was a terrifyingly stupid suggestion. And you wont back off it.
OH, So now I have multiple defects because you made yet another ridiculous argument. I gather defects as YOU make stupefyingly silly arguments.
And now you choose to just bathe in your destruction; wallow in your slaughter. Ok then.
Keep going.
You extrapolated that therefore the knife is as effective as a gun in all circumstances, because you're not very bright. Now you're just doing victory laps with your retard harness on the clothesline.
:lol destruction and slaughter..
Yeah no hyperbole or retardation there, none at all :lol
Blake
06-05-2022, 12:22 PM
:lol "Texas dad"
Now, raising two daughters in Oregon, he's always kept his weapons, including a custom-built AR-15 gun, locked in a safe.
The core of the left ideology is dishonesty, greed and stupidity
What's the core of the right ideology?
Winehole23
06-05-2022, 12:27 PM
Emojis and chest-pounding, strong stuff, DMC
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_KwjeaWwAIQb9H.jpg>" / Twitter">
Trill Clinton
06-05-2022, 01:00 PM
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Spurminator
06-05-2022, 01:03 PM
The core of the left ideology is dishonesty, greed and stupidity
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
Triggered into becoming Adam Lambert :lol
What's the core of the right ideology?
Ask RG, your daddy.
Dick Jones
06-05-2022, 01:09 PM
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
:lol
koriwhat
06-05-2022, 01:14 PM
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
Your feelings don't matter bro and neither does your weak shaming... You leftists are scum!
Spurminator
06-05-2022, 01:36 PM
:lmao Here comes Joey
koriwhat
06-05-2022, 01:37 PM
:lmao Here comes Joey
Way to deflect :tu
Spurminator
06-05-2022, 01:40 PM
How many times do I have to tell you you're on ignore, you fucking idiot?
koriwhat
06-05-2022, 01:42 PM
How many times do I have to tell you you're on ignore, you fucking idiot?
Yeah whatever you say you fucking pussy. :tu
clambake
06-05-2022, 03:39 PM
Those calf tats lol
ducks
06-05-2022, 04:25 PM
Philadelphia DA Krasner blames mass shooting on 'NRA lobbyists,' ignores own record on illegal gun crime
Progressive DA Krasner fails to prosecute illegal gun related crimes, former Philly police commissioner says
boutons_deux
06-05-2022, 04:31 PM
2021 was a study in how Texas Republicans quash gun control proposals after mass shootings
https://www.expressnews.com/news/legislature/article/Texas-Republicans-quash-gun-control-17215529.php
Dick Jones
06-05-2022, 05:04 PM
Those calf tats lol
:lmao
pgardn
06-05-2022, 05:36 PM
You extrapolated that therefore the knife is as effective as a gun in all circumstances, because you're not very bright. Now you're just doing victory laps with your retard harness on the clothesline.
:lol destruction and slaughter..
Yeah no hyperbole or retardation there, none at all :lol
YOU wrote the Uvalde massacre could have been accomplished with a knife.
I said you were and are a fool for this idiotic statement.
Thats it grumpa.
You will not slither out of this so take your misstep and live with it.
I did not make you sit in a hole you can’t escape from.
Just say it was a stupid statement or keep taking this medicine.
Your choice.
YOU wrote the Uvalde massacre could have been accomplished with a knife.
I said you were and are a fool for this idiotic statement.
Thats it grumpa.
You will not slither out of this so take your misstep and live with it.
I did not make you sit in a hole you can’t escape from.
Just say it was a stupid statement or keep taking this medicine.
Your choice.
Not the same as saying the knife is as effective as the gun in all circumstances. I said, given the time it took for officers to respond, the guy inside a locked classroom could have killed everyone with a knife. You, in your infinite attempt to impress, decided that meant I was using the "ban knives" approach. You're a fucking idiot, to put it plain and simple.
I used the plural form. You could have done the job with a kitchen knife. Once he locks himself inside that room, who's going to stop him? Certainly not the Uvalde police. The left cannot prevent people from getting guns. They never have. The right doesn't want to. Schools, especially these grades, have to be secure. The piggy with the brick house survived the big bad wolf. He didn't lobby congress to defang and declaw the wolf.
My original statement.
DMC:
"Why the killer took the time to get an AR is a mystery. A knife would have worked"
Killer decides on the AR for no good reason.
Lets keep going.
Your strawman ( you spiral from here to unrecognizable narrative)
"They'll just switch to knives" is a super convincing hypothesis. You should stick with that, profe. Using it repeatedly makes it even more persuasive.
:tu
Another idiot.
A vehicle wielding a knife in a threating manner would be concerning.
Keep going
DMC can easily pick a lock with a knife so thats one method taken care of.
Now it's turned into breaking into an unlocked school and an unlocked classroom with a knife, because obviously he shot the locks off.
You've bloviated and ran your mouth so much and have no idea what was even said. Now you're standing there with lubricant in your hand and a leash hanging out of your asshole pretending it's normal.
You must be a hoot IRL.
benefactor
06-05-2022, 08:14 PM
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
:lol
pgardn
06-05-2022, 09:05 PM
My original statement.
Your strawman ( you spiral from here to unrecognizable narrative)
Another idiot.
Keep going
Now it's turned into breaking into an unlocked school and an unlocked classroom with a knife, because obviously he shot the locks off.
You've bloviated and ran your mouth so much and have no idea what was even said. Now you're standing there with lubricant in your hand and a leash hanging out of your asshole pretending it's normal.
You must be a hoot IRL.
The whole thing is moot Grumpa.
A knife would have NOT caused that time delay, and even if it had it would have been VERY diffiicult to tell if all were dead in that time.
Most of your quotes of mine are ME mocking YOU ya fkn dork.
Or quotes to other people on this site making fun of you and your stupid theories of a knife's capability.
Bottom line: A knife was not going to accomplish what a gun did in Uvalde. You think it would have.
Thus, you are an idiot. And you know your position is absolutely ridiculous. But please, take more time to find quotes from threads 5 years ago as well to make a point today.
Keep going.
Im liking your moving and twitching violently. Ive pithed a frog here.
HemisfairArena
06-05-2022, 09:48 PM
The whole thing is moot Grumpa.
A knife would have NOT caused that time delay, and even if it had it would have been VERY diffiicult to tell if all were dead in that time.
Most of your quotes of mine are ME mocking YOU ya fkn dork.
Or quotes to other people on this site making fun of you and your stupid theories of a knife's capability.
Bottom line: A knife was not going to accomplish what a gun did in Uvalde. You think it would have.
Thus, you are an idiot. And you know your position is absolutely ridiculous. But please, take more time to find quotes from threads 5 years ago as well to make a point today.
Keep going.
Im liking your moving and twitching violently. Ive pithed a frog here.
So what youre saying is that its all about the amount of people dying,,,how fucked up is that? You democrats are a joke. So a knife might kill 3 people but thats ok since it didnt kill 20. Who made you democrats the quota kings of murder?,,,,
The whole thing is moot Grumpa.
A knife would have NOT caused that time delay, and even if it had it would have been VERY diffiicult to tell if all were dead in that time.
Most of your quotes of mine are ME mocking YOU ya fkn dork.
Or quotes to other people on this site making fun of you and your stupid theories of a knife's capability.
Bottom line: A knife was not going to accomplish what a gun did in Uvalde. You think it would have.
Thus, you are an idiot. And you know your position is absolutely ridiculous. But please, take more time to find quotes from threads 5 years ago as well to make a point today.
Keep going.
Im liking your moving and twitching violently. Ive pithed a frog here.
All those quotes are from this thread.
You're a proven liar you dishonest prick. Live with it.
Blake
06-05-2022, 10:16 PM
Ask RG, your daddy.
I'm asking you, chicken shit.
Blake
06-05-2022, 10:17 PM
DMC just in frantic anger mode :lol
ElNono
06-05-2022, 10:35 PM
Triggered into becoming Nathan :lol
:lol
pgardn
06-05-2022, 10:35 PM
All those quotes are from this thread.
You're a proven liar you dishonest prick. Live with it.
I lied about nothing.
YOU took quotes from me to other posters mocking your stupidity.
Bottom line: A knife was not going to accomplish what a gun did in Uvalde. You think it would have.
ElNono
06-05-2022, 10:35 PM
:lmao Here comes Joey
Poster B :lol
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