Another school shooting?

[Blake]

Without itemized receipts, any large purchase would have to flag. Unless the only large purchase you can imagine is firearms, then there would be a lot of false positives. You'd need another system that doesn't rely solely on the value of the purchase unless you want to tie up resources chasing down lawn furniture and fishing gear.

Or they leave academy and Walmart mostly alone and look at big purchases at gun stores that sell only guns.

[DMC]

Or they leave academy and Walmart mostly alone and look at big purchases at gun stores that sell only guns.

So ignore probably the largest seller of firearms in the US. That makes sense. You should run for public office.

[DMC]

Would it take more than a bill passed by congress to create a national registry?

But you said there's already a national registry. Why do you need another? I said a national gun registry is illegal. You claim that's wrong then you ask about passing a bill. If it's legal already, why does a bill need to pass?

Once you give up that misdirection I will address your next point.

[Blake]

So ignore probably the largest seller of firearms in the US. That makes sense. You should run for public office.

Ignore large purchases at Walmart. Look at large purchases from gun stores that sell only guns.

This isn't difficult. Glad you're never going to run for office.

[Blake]

Walmart's gun sales policies are also mostly stricter than many laws and they don't sell ar15s.

[DMC]

Walmart's gun sales policies are also mostly stricter than many laws and they don't sell ar15s.

So you only want to monitor the sales of AR-15s.

[DMC]

Ignore large purchases at Walmart. Look at large purchases from gun stores that sell only guns.

This isn't difficult. Glad you're never going to run for office.

So a store that sells only guns, you're looking for a gun purchase? WOW.. never thought of that.

Would a $5000.00 sale be flagged? How about a $10,000 sale?

Let's say 1000 dollars?

So one gun can cost 10K but I can get 10 receivers for 1K and build my own guns by purchasing parts online. Would gun parts also be tracked, like stores who sell gun parts like barrels and forearm grips and stocks and triggers and bolt carrier groups? Or are you only concerned with turn key, ready to fire, serial numbered guns?

The point? You better hope your reps know more about this shit than you. Holy fuck.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But you said there's already a national registry. Why do you need another? I said a national gun registry is illegal. You claim that's wrong then you ask about passing a bill. If it's legal already, why does a bill need to pass?

Once you give up that misdirection I will address your next point.

There is a national registry of automatic weapons and has been since 1934.

You're avoidance indicates you are not going to argue that a regular act of congress would be able to enact a national registry of all firearms. You're pissing contests to address your insecurities bore me.

[Blake]

So a store that sells only guns, you're looking for a gun purchase? WOW.. never thought of that.

Would a $5000.00 sale be flagged? How about a $10,000 sale?

Let's say 1000 dollars?

So one gun can cost 10K but I can get 10 receivers for 1K and build my own guns by purchasing parts online. Would gun parts also be tracked, like stores who sell gun parts like barrels and forearm grips and stocks and triggers and bolt carrier groups? Or are you only concerned with turn key, ready to fire, serial numbered guns?

The point? You better hope your reps know more about this shit than you. Holy fuck.

Lol back to "I can build my own guns"

If the credit card company thinks $1k is a big gun purchase, sends it to law enforcement who also thinks it's a big purchase, and asks for an itemized receipt, that's perfectly fine with me.

[Blake]

So you only want to monitor the sales of AR-15s.

False inference on your part

[DMC]

Walmart's gun sales policies are also mostly stricter than many laws and they don't sell ar15s.


So you only want to monitor the sales of AR-15s.


False inference on your part

You suck at communication.

[Blake]

You suck at communication.

It's just an added note how Walmart does things. I've never implied anywhere here that I just want ar-15 sales looked at. You're a moron.

[DMC]

It's just an added note how Walmart does things. I've never implied anywhere here that I just want ar-15 sales looked at. You're a moron.

So you respond that you don't want Walmart monitored and you just casually mention they don't sell AR15s in the same sentence, and no one else mentioned AR15s but you, yet these aren't connected.

If Walmart sold AR15s would you want them monitored? Or is it simply the 21 and over and "green light" aspect you feel relieves them of the monitoring need?

[ChumpDumper]

derp demanding perfection in laws before even attempting to pass them

[Blake]

So you respond that you don't want Walmart monitored and you just casually mention they don't sell AR15s in the same sentence, and no one else mentioned AR15s but you, yet these aren't connected.

If Walmart sold AR15s would you want them monitored? Or is it simply the 21 and over and "green light" aspect you feel relieves them of the monitoring need?


They can report large purchases to law enforcement. Law enforcement can then decide if they want to go ask the store for the itemized receipt. This isn't hard to figure out. Keep trying, nut.

If they want to ask Walmart for a receipt of what they think is a large purchase of any type, great. You good now or are you going to try to weed thru every word I type some more?

[Blake]

derp demanding perfection in laws before even attempting to pass them

YeAh buT wHat if the thReshOLd is $1000 aNd thEy pUrchAse $999 aNd doNt aSk foR a ReceiPt, aRe yoU gOing to gEt uPset?

[DMC]

If they want to ask Walmart for a receipt of what they think is a large purchase of any type, great. You good now or are you going to try to weed thru every word I type some more?

you exempted Walmart. Explain that. If you don't want your words questioned, why respond?

[DMC]

Blake lost again, fart/turd protocol engaged.

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds

[DMC]

There is a national registry of automatic weapons and has been since 1934.

Try to register one.

So why do you think legislation needs to happen to create a national gun registry? You're being inconsistent. It's obvious you know exactly what I mean when I said it's illegal to create a national gun registry.


You're avoidance indicates you are not going to argue that a regular act of congress would be able to enact a national registry of all firearms. You're pissing contests to address your insecurities bore me.
An act of congress could create a national gun registry. Only it would require first repealing that part of FOPA then voting to create a national gun registry. If you think that's a regular act of congress, why? It's been almost 40 years and many administrations/congresses and yet it hasn't even been approached.

First you say I am dumbing it down then you use "insecurities" as an escape hatch.

If you think a national gun registry exists, why can't you register your guns there? Why can't you get a new subgun and register it? Please explain.

[koriwhat]

Some pussies in here are simply just scared of guns and so be it; they don't need to have them in their hands in the first place because they're most likely sissies and or on some sort of meds anyhow. BlaKKKe and co. what meds are you pussies on exactly? :lmao

[Blake]

you exempted Walmart. Explain that. If you don't want your words questioned, why respond?

Nope. I'm not the one coming up with the rules. If enforcement wants to look at a huge Walmart purchase that's " great". If they don't, they don't. Same when gun shops. I'm not the one determining what amount they need to look at and at what store.

The word "great" is clear enough for most 3rd graders.

[DMC]

Ignore large purchases at Walmart. Look at large purchases from gun stores that sell only guns.

This isn't difficult. Glad you're never going to run for office.


Nope. I'm not the one coming up with the rules. If enforcement wants to look at a huge Walmart purchase that's " great". If they don't, they don't. Same when gun shops. I'm not the one determining what amount they need to look at and at what store.

The word "great" is clear enough for most 3rd graders.

Seems you are

[Blake]

Seems you are

You try so hard

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Try to register one.

So why do you think legislation needs to happen to create a national gun registry? You're being inconsistent. It's obvious you know exactly what I mean when I said it's illegal to create a national gun registry.

An act of congress could create a national gun registry. Only it would require first repealing that part of FOPA then voting to create a national gun registry. If you think that's a regular act of congress, why? It's been almost 40 years and many administrations/congresses and yet it hasn't even been approached.

First you say I am dumbing it down then you use "insecurities" as an escape hatch.

If you think a national gun registry exists, why can't you register your guns there? Why can't you get a new subgun and register it? Please explain.

Just because you have to create an LLC or a law enforcement waiver to register automatic weapons and the like does not mean a gun registry does not exist. You can clear the legal hurdles and transfer an automatic weapon to your possession. When you do that you have to register it. That is not an illegal process.

And thank you a simple act of congress can create a broader firearms registry. I never said the POTUS could do it unilaterally. It is quite ignorant to think you would have to create two bills to do it. I can give you a brief outline how it could be done in one bill if you like.

It's a complicated issue and you dumbed it down.

[DMC]

You try so hard

Can't say the same for you.

[DMC]

Just because you have to create an LLC or a law enforcement waiver to register automatic weapons and the like does not mean a gun registry does not exist. You can clear the legal hurdles and transfer an automatic weapon to your possession. When you do that you have to register it. That is not an illegal process.

For the civilian possession, all machine guns must have been manufactured and registered with ATF prior to May 19, 1986, to be transferable between citizens.[18] These machine gun prices have drastically escalated in value, especially items like registered sears and conversion-kits. Only a Class-II manufacturer (a FFL holder licensed to manufacture firearms or Type-07 license that has paid a Special Occupational Tax Stamp or SOT) could manufacture machine guns after that date, and they can only be sold to government, law-enforcement, and military entities. Transfer can only be done to other SOT FFL-holders, and such FFL-holders must have a "demonstration letter" from a respective government agency to receive such machine guns.[19] Falsification and/or misuse of the "demo-letter" process can and has resulted in long jail sentences and felony convictions for violators. -Wiki

You do not register again a transferrable machine gun. You can only apply for transfer. You want to conflate transfer with registration, but they aren't the same things. There hasn't been a single transferrable machine gun registered after the 1986 ban. Once in the registry, it's in the registry ergo registered.

Jumping around between civilian ownership of transferrable (registered) machine guns and military/LEO requested demonstration weapons is a desperate attempt to conflate any recording of firearms as a "national firearm registry".

So again, why do you need a national firearms registry if one already exists?


It's a complicated issue and you dumbed it down.
I have to dumb it down for people like you who conflate shit just to try for a W.

FOPA prohibits the creation of a national firearm registry.
Transferrable machine guns were registered prior to 1986. There are no new registrations, only transfers.

So what other conflations and wrong information do you wish to post in an attempt to appear right to the layman?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For the civilian possession, all machine guns must have been manufactured and registered with ATF prior to May 19, 1986, to be transferable between citizens.[18] These machine gun prices have drastically escalated in value, especially items like registered sears and conversion-kits. Only a Class-II manufacturer (a FFL holder licensed to manufacture firearms or Type-07 license that has paid a Special Occupational Tax Stamp or SOT) could manufacture machine guns after that date, and they can only be sold to government, law-enforcement, and military entities. Transfer can only be done to other SOT FFL-holders, and such FFL-holders must have a "demonstration letter" from a respective government agency to receive such machine guns.[19] Falsification and/or misuse of the "demo-letter" process can and has resulted in long jail sentences and felony convictions for violators. -Wiki

You do not register again a transferrable machine gun. You can only apply for transfer. You want to conflate transfer with registration, but they aren't the same things. There hasn't been a single transferrable machine gun registered after the 1986 ban. Once in the registry, it's in the registry ergo registered.

Jumping around between civilian ownership of transferrable (registered) machine guns and military/LEO requested demonstration weapons is a desperate attempt to conflate any recording of firearms as a "national firearm registry".

So again, why do you need a national firearms registry if one already exists?

I have to dumb it down for people like you who conflate shit just to try for a W.

FOPA prohibits the creation of a national firearm registry.
Transferrable machine guns were registered prior to 1986. There are no new registrations, only transfers.

So what other conflations and wrong information do you wish to post in an attempt to appear right to the layman?

This is your initial argument.


There's a reason a national registry is outlawed. State registries are legal. You should push for that 1st.

There is already a lawful national registry and getting 50 states to create registries is much more difficult than getting US congress to pass 1 bill. Your take was dumbed down and wrong.

You have fun moving the goalposts and obfuscating some more.

[DMC]

This is your initial argument.



There is already a lawful national registry and getting 50 states to create registries is much more difficult than getting US congress to pass 1 bill. Your take was dumbed down and wrong.

You have fun moving the goalposts and obfuscating some more.
Have fun with your make believe.

[Blake]

Can't say the same for you.

This is really easy

[CosmicCowboy]

After three pages of bickering, the question remains, what is the real reason specialty gun stores are getting a different credit card code?

[DMC]

This is really easy

:tu

[ChumpDumper]

After three pages of bickering, the question remains, what is the real reason specialty gun stores are getting a different credit card code?What do you think is the reason?

[Blake]

:tu

Yet you struggle with it

[Blake]

After three pages of bickering, the question remains, what is the real reason specialty gun stores are getting a different credit card code?

The link is there and I even quoted some of it for you as to reason why. How much more spoon feeding do you need here

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Have fun with your make believe.

What's not make believe is it took you two hours to come up with that google foo. I was like this is a new irrelevant argument once again so I rejoined your original. I see you have now gone for this whine instead.

You want it to seem that a national registry would be difficult to create and instead we should look to the states. As I have pointed out, a single federal bill with two parts would enable a national registry. Further places like California and Illinois make it very clear that state regulations do not work because people are free to go to Oregon, Arizona, Nevada, and Indiana to buy their weapons.

I am not anti-gun and have several but I am not remotely scared to have to register them federally because of the Heller decision and others. Spouting the NRA, lets sell as many guns as we can, propaganda is part of the problem. You start with that and then double down as you google foo their bullshit so as to not lose an argument. That is why I have zero respect for you.

[DMC]

What's not make believe is it took you two hours to come up with that google foo. I was like this is a new irrelevant argument once again so I rejoined your original. I see you have now gone for this whine instead.

You want it to seem that a national registry would be difficult to create and instead we should look to the states. As I have pointed out, a single federal bill with two parts would enable a national registry. Further places like California and Illinois make it very clear that state regulations do not work because people are free to go to Oregon, Arizona, Nevada, and Indiana to buy their weapons.

I am not anti-gun and have several but I am not remotely scared to have to register them federally because of the Heller decision and others. Spouting the NRA, lets sell as many guns as we can, propaganda is part of the problem. You start with that and then double down as you google foo their bullshit so as to not lose an argument. That is why I have zero respect for you.

I couldn't care less about getting respect from an self aggrandizing asshat like you.

You took issue with this: "Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions." and falsely equated the pre-registered NFA weapons that are otherwise banned. You've been flailing since you took issue with a written law, and claimed that a bill would need to pass to enact a national gun registry EVEN THOUGH you disagreed that it's illegal currently to create a national gun registry." -FOPA

There are 400 million guns in circulation. If you're going to require they all be registered, then any guns entering your state would require registration, just like they do in DC and Hawaii.

Under state law, every person arriving in Hawaii who brings or causes to be brought into Hawaii a firearm must register the firearm within five days of the person's or the firearm's arrival, whichever arrives later. Individuals under the age of 21 are prohibited from bringing firearms into the state.

You cannot even rationalize things without sounding ignorant of existing laws. Maybe you need to sit this one out.

[DMC]

Yet you struggle with it

:lol even has to respond to a :tu emoji.. you lonely, retarded fuck :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I couldn't care less about getting respect from an self aggrandizing asshat like you.

You took issue with this: "Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions." and falsely equated the pre-registered NFA weapons that are otherwise banned. You've been flailing since you took issue with a written law, and claimed that a bill would need to pass to enact a national gun registry EVEN THOUGH you disagreed that it's illegal currently to create a national gun registry." -FOPA

There are 400 million guns in circulation. If you're going to require they all be registered, then any guns entering your state would require registration, just like they do in DC and Hawaii.

Under state law, every person arriving in Hawaii who brings or causes to be brought into Hawaii a firearm must register the firearm within five days of the person's or the firearm's arrival, whichever arrives later. Individuals under the age of 21 are prohibited from bringing firearms into the state.

You cannot even rationalize things without sounding ignorant of existing laws. Maybe you need to sit this one out.

This is funny. I say your original statement was dumbed down ie it was a complex situation. Since then you have googled hard to study the issue and post about the complexity so you can call me ignorant. Meanwhile you are parroting NRA propaganda like the there are too many guns so we should just give up line just as I was speaking to and desperately trying to win a point, any point, as I clearly have made you insecure. Your behavior is cliche.

My initial premise remains the same and unchanged. Going through the states is both ineffective and more difficult than a federal statute. For all of your handwaving at state registrations it still does not prevent a Chicagoan from going to Indiana or another state to purchase a weapon with little to no oversight and bring it back to Illinois. A nationwide registry would notify Illinois law enforcement of the purchase by one of their residents as opposed to relying on self reporting. Handwaving at an island state is cute though.

Further there is nothing other than political will stopping US congress from passing a bill to create another national registry. A national gun registry has already been in existence since 1934.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol even has to respond to a :tu emoji.. you lonely, retarded fuck :lmao

So says the divorcee who has posted on this site daily for decades just as he has.

[Blake]

So says the divorcee who has posted on this site daily for decades just as he has.

On many a Saturday night begging

[TimDunkem]

So says the divorcee who has posted on this site daily for decades just as he has.
That explains a decade of daily Spurstalk shifts of unprovoked ankle biting. :lol

[DMC]

So says the divorcee who has posted on this site daily for decades just as he has.

:lol "divorcee".

You do love a narrative.

[Blake]

:lol "divorcee".

You do love a narrative.

That is incredibly rich:lol

[DMC]

This is funny. I say your original statement was dumbed down ie it was a complex situation. Since then you have googled hard to study the issue and post about the complexity so you can call me ignorant. Meanwhile you are parroting NRA propaganda like the there are too many guns so we should just give up line just as I was speaking to and desperately trying to win a point, any point, as I clearly have made you insecure. Your behavior is cliche.

My initial premise remains the same and unchanged. Going through the states is both ineffective and more difficult than a federal statute. For all of your handwaving at state registrations it still does not prevent a Chicagoan from going to Indiana or another state to purchase a weapon with little to no oversight and bring it back to Illinois. A nationwide registry would notify Illinois law enforcement of the purchase by one of their residents as opposed to relying on self reporting. Handwaving at an island state is cute though.

Further there is nothing other than political will stopping US congress from passing a bill to create another national registry. A national gun registry has already been in existence since 1934.

I have showed you the information I was well aware of, providing evidence is pretty common in discussions, since your mouth isn't a prayer book just because it opens and shuts. I didn't Google to learn it you twat. You make shit up coming and going.

"going through the states" is a false dichotomy. You only need to worry about your own state.

You minimalize political will. There's only political will stopping US congress from repealing the 2A. Why do you pretend the will of the parties is a small roadblock?

[DMC]

That is incredibly rich:lol

:lol I am not divorced, but you are. :lol

[DMC]

That explains a decade of daily Spurstalk shifts of unprovoked ankle biting. :lol

"ankle biting" from your ilk means you got your shit pushed in. For you that's a normal thing, here and IRL.

[TimDunkem]

Oh he's mad now. Don't have a heart attack about it fatty. :lol

[DMC]

Oh he's mad now. Don't have a heart attack about it fatty. :lol

I wasn't the one worried here about dying from COVID, fatty :lol

[TimDunkem]

DMC has mental notes on all of those on his E-hate list. Spurstalk is serious business!!

Not surprising for a fat, old divorcee though, tbh. :lol What a sad, lonely existence.

[Blake]

:lol I am not divorced, but you are. :lol

:lol you are deeply in love with narratives

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have showed you the information I was well aware of, providing evidence is pretty common in discussions, since your mouth isn't a prayer book just because it opens and shuts. I didn't Google to learn it you twat. You make shit up coming and going.

"going through the states" is a false dichotomy. You only need to worry about your own state.

You minimalize political will. There's only political will stopping US congress from repealing the 2A. Why do you pretend the will of the parties is a small roadblock?

Bullshit. It took you 3 hours last night to respond after you did your tit for tat with blake and saw my post. Your initial post was dumbed down and ignorant. You don't even address what you said but instead go with the constant red herrings you googgle up between responses.

You do not even address my point about interstate commerce of weapons and how it is used to circumvent state registrations. You were the one that said that federal was illegal and states weren't. You made the dichotomy, dimwit.

The point is the only thing standing between a national registry for all firearms is the votes for a bill not the structural impediments you implied. The political trend with the millennials and zoomers is what it is. Your conservative ship is sinking.

At this point it is clear you are struggling to keep up with your own bullshit in your quest to win any point you can and I am just repeating my initial premise which you don't ever argue. It's boring, last word is yours.

[DMC]

DMC has mental notes on all of those on his E-hate list. Spurstalk is serious business!!

Not surprising for a fat, old divorcee though, tbh. :lol What a sad, lonely existence.

:lol "DMC remembers I shit myself because COVID targets fat asses"
:lol "I know I interjected unprompted but DMC has the E-hate list"

:lmao Dunkem Donuts

[DMC]

Bullshit. It took you 3 hours last night to respond after you did your tit for tat with blake and saw my post. Your initial post was dumbed down and ignorant. You don't even address what you said but instead go with the constant red herrings you googgle up between responses.

You do not even address my point about interstate commerce of weapons and how it is used to circumvent state registrations. You were the one that said that federal was illegal and states weren't. You made the dichotomy, dimwit.

The point is the only thing standing between a national registry for all firearms is the votes for a bill not the structural impediments you implied. The political trend with the millennials and zoomers is what it is. Your conservative ship is sinking.

At this point it is clear you are struggling to keep up with your own bullshit in your quest to win any point you can and I am just repeating my initial premise which you don't ever argue. It's boring, last word is yours.

I have a life, idiot.

I showed you that state requirements of registration address interstate commerce. If you're going to be illegal, even a federal registry wouldn't prevent that. :lol

I said it's illegal for a reason. I didn't say that couldn't change.

(insert parting shot here).

[DMC]

:lol you are deeply in love with narratives
:tu

[TimDunkem]

You do have an E-hate list, Fatty. You follow the same people around the forum every day bitching, moaning, and ankle biting. You have done it for over a decade now. You live a pathetic, lonely, sad existence and are no better than any of the other losers who do the same like Tats or Spurmtacular before he was banned.

Looking like the "smartest guy in the room" and meaningless E-Wins on ST means so much to you and it's pathetic, tbh. :lol

[DMC]

You do have an E-hate list, Fatty. You follow the same people around the forum every day bitching, moaning, and ankle biting. You have done it for over a decade now. You live a pathetic, lonely, sad existence and are no better than any of the other losers who do the same like Tats or Spurmtacular before he was banned.

Looking like the "smartest guy in the room" and meaningless E-Wins on ST means so much to you and it's pathetic, tbh. :lol

:lol you came here and commented. I don't recall summoning you or tagging you, faggot.

Cool you think I look like the smartest guy in the room, but that has to be graded on a curve here.

[TimDunkem]

Boo hoo, fatty, I insulted you. Like I said, don't have a heart attack about it.

Also, no, you've called yourself the smartest guy in the room, but go ahead and keep up this pathetic show proving only that you're actually a moron and easily one of the most pathetic losers on this forum. :lol

[koriwhat]

:lol you came here and commented. I don't recall summoning you or tagging you, faggot.

Cool you think I look like the smartest guy in the room, but that has to be graded on a curve here.

They say we go looking to talk shit to the eGang of fruits who actually seek us out to get a rise... It's their go-to when they know damn well it's just projection at its finest. This is why IDGAF what those fruits have to say because they're just full of bullshit and when you throw it back in their face they cry endlessly about it.

[koriwhat]

Boo hoo, fatty, I insulted you. Like I said, don't have a heart attack about it.

Also, no, you've called yourself the smartest guy in the room, but go ahead and keep up this pathetic show proving only that you're actually a moron and easily one of the most pathetic losers on this forum. :lol

Why are you seeking DMC out rn to talk shit? :lmao

You follow the same people around the forum every day bitching, moaning, and ankle biting. You have done it for over a decade now. You live a pathetic, lonely, sad existence and are no better than any of the other losers who do the same like BlaKKKe or CumDumpster. :tu

[TimDunkem]

So fucking disingenuous. No wonder you faggots follow each other around now. Two peas in the same retarded, pathetic pod. :lol

[DMC]

So fucking disingenuous. No wonder you faggots follow each other around now. Two peas in the same retarded, pathetic pod. :lol

Obviously you're not triggered...

[koriwhat]

So fucking disingenuous. No wonder you faggots follow each other around now. Two peas in the same retarded, pathetic pod. :lol

Disingenuous my ass! You're doing exactly what you're bitching about right fucking now but boohoo because the mirror has been turned on you amirite? :lmao

You're a fucking bitch homie. :tu

Btw, I'm surprised you didn't post your little, "koriwhat is on ignore..."

[koriwhat]

So fucking disingenuous. No wonder you faggots follow each other around now. Two peas in the same retarded, pathetic pod. :lol


Btw, you tolerant ones going to address this?

[TimDunkem]

Sure, Fatty, everyone is triggered but you as you reply to literally everyone today, and have bit the ankles of those on your E-hate list daily for the last 10+ years. :lol

:lol Slightly less retarded, but equally pathetic Koriwhat.

[koriwhat]

Sure, Fatty, everyone is triggered but you as you reply to literally everyone today, and have bit the ankles of those on your E-hate list daily for the last 10+ years. :lol

:lol Slightly less retarded, but equally pathetic Koriwhat.

Am I still on ignore you big pussy?

[koriwhat]

You cry too much TimDunkem

[TimDunkem]

^Triggered.

[koriwhat]

^Triggered.

Triggered over what exactly, you crying endlessly while also projecting you bitch ass?

[DMC]

I've incited a war. My job here is done.

[ChumpDumper]

Am I still on ignore you big pussy?

lol

[Blake]

DMC gets shit on, declares victory.

Tats sees it, immediately starts shit shielding for DMC

[DMC]

DMC gets shit on, declares victory.

Tats sees it, immediately starts shit shielding for DMC

Victory! Yay me! woot

[CosmicCowboy]

The link is there and I even quoted some of it for you as to reason why. How much more spoon feeding do you need here

LOL "To identify a domestic terrorist building up an arsenal"

By definition, having already had extensive background checks done on every single purchase, he wouldn't be identified as a domestic terrorist.

[koriwhat]

Victory! Yay me! woot

You got to love how bigMad these pussies get just because I like some of your posts. It's as if they're so hard up for me to just stop liking your common sense posts but wtf are they anyhow? I have no respect for them pussies and thus I will continue on as I have and like many more of your posts especially if it pisses them off. Fuck them!

[Winehole23]

Tangent, but discloses the current off the rails 2A jurisprudence

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[Winehole23]

Usually gypsy cops move away from the places where they got in trouble.

Brain dead move by Uvalde ISD police.


A police officer who was hired by the Uvalde school district despite being under investigation for her conduct during the school massacre while with the Texas Department of Public Safety has now been fired.


The school district said in a letter Thursday that Crimson Elizondo had been fired effective immediately. The decision to hire Elizondo drew outrage from parents' of victims of the May 24 school shooting that killed 21 people, including 19 elementary school students.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-trooper-investigation-uvalde-massacre-response-now-cop/story?id=91080756

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[Blake]

Lol wut? Why would you apply to work in the area where you are being investigated for your role in fleeing from the gunman?

[Winehole23]

Lol wut? Why would you apply to work in the area where you are being investigated for your role in fleeing from the gunman?Vanity. Entitlement. Stupidity.

They really thought they could do it, no one ever stopped them before, I bet.

[Winehole23]

Sure looks like DPS covered its ass.


Visual evidence from the scene, while limited, indicates the problem was not simply one incompetent school police chief, or officers who knew better, but failed to take action. The available footage shows high-ranking officers, experienced state troopers, police academy instructors — even federal SWAT specialists — came to the same conclusions and were detoured by the same delays the school police chief has been condemned for causing.

Three days after the shooting, D.P.S.’s director, Steven McCraw, announced his investigative team had identified why the police took 77 minutes to kill the gunman. Mr. McCraw said every officer was trained to immediately neutralize active shooters, but they were hamstrung when the incident commander, Pete Arredondo, wrongly determined the gunman was a so-called “barricaded subject,” which calls for a slower, more deliberate response.

Mr. McCraw was more pointed during a State Senate hearing in June.

“The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from entering Room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children,”


But claims by Mr. McCraw that Mr. Arredondo stymied 360 officers with flawed orders or misinformation are not supported by the available footage, which shows little evidence that commands were issued by the school chief, let alone widely communicated.

The available footage shows the D.P.S. timeline (https://www.dps.texas.gov/news/senate-special-committee-protect-all-texans-dps-presentation-materials) — which Mr. McCraw told lawmakers was corroborated by “frame-by-frame” video analysis — miscast Mr. Arredondo’s role and omitted actions, and inaction, by other officers, especially D.P.S. troopers and federal agents, who were involved earlier or more centrally than it notes.

Footage shows BORTAC, the Border Patrol’s elite tactical agents, took charge about halfway into the response, and learned right away that children were trapped inside with the gunman. But it took 37 minutes of planning, testing keys and readying equipment before BORTAC breached the classrooms.

[/QUOTE]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/us/uvalde-shooting-police-response-investigation.html

[Winehole23]

"we won't do anything to make your school safer, but we will help you ID your kid's dead body."

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[Winehole23]

Criminal background checks? Too intrusive.

Take your kid's DNA and fingerprints to identify them post mortem? All cool.

[Winehole23]

no wonder DPS threw Arredondo under the bus


A Texas state police captain tried to delay a law enforcement team entering the classrooms to end the Robb Elementary massacre (https://www.cnn.com/specials/us/texas-robb-elementary-shooting) and is now among those under investigation after an account from someone at the scene that he ordered his officers to stay out of the school in the initial response to the shooting, sources tell CNN.


CNN has obtained a new audio recording of Capt. Joel Betancourt ordering a strike team to wait, more than 70 minutes into the attack
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/20/us/texas-uvalde-dps-investigation-betancourt/index.html

[Winehole23]

Betancourt's order was so off the wall some officers ignored it


“I heard someone shout out, Capt. Betancourt said all DPS personnel need to be on perimeter, do no (sic) enter building,” one DPS lieutenant stated, after writing how he had driven from some 40 miles away at speeds of up to 130 mph to get to the scene.


A DPS sergeant added in his memo: “As this was clearly against established training, we both decided to enter the building where the shooter was located.”

[Winehole23]

looks like Betancourt lied


Betancourt, the most senior officer known to be being investigated over the failed law enforcement response, told investigators he had little to do with the operation at Robb Elementary until after the gunman was killed, sources close to the inquiry told CNN.

The interviews from the immediate days after the event, described to CNN by several sources, offer the first direct accounts from the officers now being scrutinized by the inspector general.
Betancourt told investigators he had a clear memory of being in Eagle Pass, Texas, with other officers when the first call of a shooting came in at about 11:50 a.m., he said, but it was unclear how major the situation was.



At least two officers said it was Betancourt who alerted them to the ongoing attack at Robb Elementary, the sources familiar with the investigation told CNN.

A sergeant said he had received a text about an “active shooter” incident from Betancourt at about 11:37 a.m., raising questions about Betancourt’s claim that he only became involved later.

And Victor Escalon, the regional DPS director for the South Texas Region that includes Uvalde, said Betancourt had texted him at 12:09 p.m.. That text read: “Initial info one person possibly a teacher shot in head, one officer shot, kid has AK 47, CNU [specialist negotiator team] has been activated, suspect is barricaded. Troopers who are medics have been deployed. Drone team is on its way,” the sources said.

[Winehole23]

McCraw and other DPS leaders have refused to discuss the internal investigations or release information until the investigations are complete at the request of local District Attorney Christina Mitchell Busbee. Her criminal investigation may take years and she has said she will charge anyone who has committed a crime at Robb Elementary, including law enforcement officers.

[Winehole23]

They had metal detectors.

The doors to the school were locked.

They had seven armed officers at the school.

The shooter still got in and killed two people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/st-louis-high-school-shooting.html

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Texas Lege covering DPS's asses, signing NDA's and keeping the public in the dark.

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[Winehole23]

Lege could have subpoenaed any docs DPS wanted to withhold, I guess they didn't like the optics of fighting DPS in court. As a bonus, Abbott and the GOP avoid the political damage of disclosing what went on with DPS that day.

[Winehole23]

This is authoritarian, banana republic type shit.

[Blake]

Texas Lege covering DPS's asses, signing NDA's and keeping the public in the dark.

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That's some bs. But a max fine of $1000 doesn't seem too steep either. Maybe one of them will violate it.

[Winehole23]

First responders impeded the medical response.

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[Winehole23]

weak beer

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[Winehole23]

what are they hiding?


Uvalde’s district attorney has joined the Texas Department of Public Safety in fighting the release of public records related to last year’s mass shooting at Robb Elementary School, arguing that all of the families who lost children want them withheld. But attorneys for a vast majority of the families are refuting that claim, saying that the information should be made public.https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/08/uvalde-district-attorney-fights-release-public-records-despite-family/

[Winehole23]

DA Busbee is protecting public servants from public scrutiny, using the privacy of families as a fig leaf. She should be tarred and feathered.

[Winehole23]

375 cops, standing around, afraid of the killer's gun.


Almost a year after Texas’ deadliest school shooting killed 19 children and two teachers, there is still confusion among investigators, law enforcement leaders and politicians over how nearly 400 law enforcement officers could have performed so poorly. People have blamed cowardice or poor leadership or a lack of sufficient training for why police waited more than an hour to breach the classroom and subdue an amateur 18-year-old adversary.

But in their own words, during and after their botched response, the officers pointed to another reason: They were unwilling to confront the rifle on the other side of the door.

“You knew that it was definitely an AR. There was no way of going in. … We had no choice but to wait and try to get something that had better coverage where we could actually stand up to him.”
— Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Donald Page

A Texas Tribune investigation, based on police body cameras, emergency communications and interviews with investigators that have not been made public, found officers had concluded that immediately confronting the gunman would be too dangerous. Even though some officers were armed with the same rifle, they opted to wait for the arrival of a Border Patrol SWAT team, with more protective body armor, stronger shields and more tactical training — even though the unit was based more than 60 miles away.

“You knew that it was definitely an AR,” Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Donald Page said in an interview with investigators after the school shooting. “There was no way of going in. … We had no choice but to wait and try to get something that had better coverage where we could actually stand up to him.”


“We weren’t equipped to make entry into that room without several casualties,” Uvalde Police Department Detective Louis Landry said in a separate investigative interview. He added, “Once we found out it was a rifle he was using, it was a different game plan we would have had to come up with. It wasn’t just going in guns blazing, the Old West style, and take him out.”

Uvalde school district Police Chief Pete Arredondo, who was fired in August after state officials cast him as the incident commander and blamed him for the delay in confronting the gunman, told investigators the day after the shooting he chose to focus on evacuating the school over breaching the classroom because of the type of firearm the gunman used.
“We’re gonna get scrutinized (for) why we didn’t go in there,” Arredondo said. “I know the firepower he had, based on what shells I saw, the holes in the wall in the room next to his. … The preservation of life, everything around (the gunman), was a priority.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/20/uvalde-shooting-police-ar-15/

[Winehole23]

I guess we finally have a concrete example of an armed populace keeping the government in check.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Frr_dgYXwAE176W?format=png&name=small

[boutons_deux]

Dallas ISD student shot outside Thomas Jefferson High School (https://linkst.dallasnews.com/click/30914202.39606/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGFsbGFzbmV3cy5jb20vbmV3cy9jcmltZS 8yMDIzLzAzLzIxL2RhbGxhcy1pc2Qtc3R1ZGVudC1zaG90LW91 dHNpZGUtdGhvbWFzLWplZmZlcnNvbi1oaWdoLXNjaG9vbC8_c2 FpbHRocnVfaWQ9NjI2ODA4MGNkNDVmOWQwM2Y0NWNiNmVh/6268080cd45f9d03f45cb6eaC56340862)






The gunfire comes a day after two students were shot at Lamar High School in Arlington.

-- DMN email

[Winehole23]

Maybe they should let kids open carry at school. More good guys with guns closer to the action.

[Winehole23]

I guess we finally have a concrete example of an armed populace keeping the government in check.

[Winehole23]

(Until Brandon's BORTAC myrmidons arrived, took charge and showed up all those Texas pussies, nearly 400 of em.)

[Winehole23]

(By heart, I think the number was ~375)

[Winehole23]

Texas Lege shits on the families, contempt for the governed has been very palpable last couple of sessions.

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

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She gonna be rich

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Gun culture is macabre, I guess it's best to start early with the lesson that everything else takes a back seat to muh freedom.

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[Winehole23]

Menstruation?

Probably not age appropriate.

[MultiTroll]

Gun culture is macabre, I guess it's best to start early with the lesson that everything else takes a back seat to muh freedom.
When i 1st read your post, knowing it was Texass.....I thought this applied to learning how to shoot :rollin:

"Our district is offering the training right now for middle schoolers and up but looks like the Texas bill is amending it to 3rd graders and up."

[Winehole23]

Still needs to pass the lege and get Abbott's signature.

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[Blake]

Still needs to pass the lege and get Abbott's signature.

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Drop in the bucket but it's still a drop

[Winehole23]

Drop in the bucket but it's still a dropLooks like the bill will die in calendars. Republicans don't want to vote on it, quietly killing it this way preserves the cowardice of their convictions.

[Trill Clinton]

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RIP to the babies and brave teachers who lost their lives 1 year ago today.

[Blake]

A year of thoughts and prayers

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Looks like the bill will die in calendars. Republicans don't want to vote on it, quietly killing it this way preserves the cowardice of their convictions.

The Dan Patrick way.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

The Dan Patrick way.Calendars is in the House. Marijuana decriminalization dies in Calendars whenever it passes out of committee for about, oh the last 10 years or so.

A lot of bills die in Calendars, tbh.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Calendars is in the House. Marijuana decriminalization dies in Calendars whenever it passes out of committee for about, oh the last 10 years or so.

A lot of bills die in Calendars, tbh.

Patrick has unilaterally cockblocked marijuana, time zone, school reform, infrastructure and all manner of things his donors and ideology want blackballed.

The Lt Governor is the one that has to take it to the floor for debate or for a vote.

[Winehole23]

Patrick has unilaterally cockblocked marijuana, time zone, school reform, infrastructure and all manner of things his donors and ideology want blackballed.

The Lt Governor is the one that has to take it to the floor for debate or for a vote.sure, Patrick is choad and in some ways the most powerful person in Texas government, but he has no need to shitcan what's already been shitcanned in the House.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

sure, Patrick is choad and in some ways the most powerful person in Texas government, but he has no need to shitcan what's already been shitcanned in the House.

Then I suppose their work is down. About 5 years ago there was a consensus amongst the Christian Caucus to allow it. He stopped it. Similar with the other issues I stated. I guess they eroded that too. I stopped giving a shit because nothing happens until he is gone.

[Winehole23]

WaPo published pictures of the Uvalde aftermath. Texas is still stonewalling the survivors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-force-mass-shootings/

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[Winehole23]

so tuff

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[Thread]

so tuff

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Don't look tough to me...Pals have owned 'em since day 1 of this disaster. Pal has taken over a dozen colleges coast-to-coast, forcing them to cancel graduation ceremonies, classes, campuses, MSNBC is advocating shooting them down in the street.

What's a matter, Winester, don't it float?

[Blake]

Seems like they can just go in the grass to get around the troopers

[Thread]

Seems like they can just go in the grass to get around the troopers

...providing these troops don't shoot like up at Kent State.

[Winehole23]

Seems like they can just go in the grass to get around the troopersarresting people for "blocking" open areas has been a common theme

[Thread]

arresting people for "blocking" open areas has been a common theme

...but shooting to death same/unarmed in the face will get ya a medal like Billy-be-jiggered.

Just shows ta go ya.

[Thread]

- "Serve it." - "Frank Palancio"
- "Magnum Force"

As our Effy tells it...they fucked around & they found out...

[[[CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Three officers from a U.S. Marshals Fugitive Task Force were killed, and five other officers were wounded after a suspect opened fire after being served a warrant in Charlotte, North Carolina, (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/us-regions/southeast/north-carolina) on Monday afternoon, according to police.
The shooting began when a U.S. Marshals task force attempted to serve a warrant for firearm possession by a convicted felon. During a Monday evening press briefing, authorities said the suspect officers were serving the warrant on was the one who initially opened fire. That suspect, police said, was found dead.
Police believe two shooters may have been involved. They said two persons of interest were taken to the police station for further investigation. One person of interest is a 17-year-old juvenile, police said. The other is a woman.]]]

[Winehole23]

Two local LEOs true-billed by Uvalde grand jury.

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[Thread]

Two local LEOs true-billed by Uvalde grand jury.

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They're lookin' for a check.

[baseline bum]

Two local LEOs true-billed by Uvalde grand jury.

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LOL the pussy ass police trying to make him the fall guy for all their cowardice.

[Winehole23]

LOL the pussy ass police trying to make him the fall guy for all their cowardice.seems proportional to me.

the local grand jury is holding the local police commander and the local school resource cop responsible for the biggest fuck up ever.

[Winehole23]

Or trying to

[baseline bum]

seems proportional to me.

the local grand jury is holding the local police commander and the local school resource cop responsible for the biggest fuck up ever.

No those are both only school police, not the loser Uvalde Police who let all those kids die while they guarded the parking lots. The school police are trying to be made the fall guys, not the militarized local police force that had swat gear and assault rifles and such for a situation like this.

[Winehole23]

No those are both only school police, not the loser Uvalde Police who let all those kids die while they guarded the parking lots. The school police are trying to be made the fall guys, not the militarized local police force that had swat gear and assault rifles and such for a situation like this.I thought Arredondo was part of the local PD, is that wrong?

I mean there were like 375 other LEs standing around goosing each other until BORTAC lost patience and finished it. Texas will never punish them, I don't see how Uvalde could -- especially since DPS is stonewalling everything.

[baseline bum]

I thought Arredondo was part of the local PD, is that wrong?

I mean there were like 375 other LEs standing around goosing each other until BORTAC lost patience and finished it. Texas will never punish them, I don't see how Uvalde could -- especially since DPS is stonewalling everything.

Nope, he's in school's police department. Not a part of Uvalde PD. Ever since the 90s Texas schools have had their own independent police departments.

[Winehole23]

375 LEs stood around for an hour, iirc like 90 of them were TXDPS troopers.



DPS Dodges Transparency in Uvalde—Again (texasobserver.org) (https://www.texasobserver.org/dps-mccraw-transparency-uvalde/)

By reinstating Texas Ranger Christopher Ryan Kindell in early August, Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) Director Steve McCraw seems to have once and for all sidestepped a public reckoning over his agency’s role in the botched law enforcement response to the deadly May 24, 2022, shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde.

McCraw fired Kindell more than a year ago (https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/06/texas-ranger-uvalde-shooting-criminal-cases-kindell/), accusing him of failing to meet department standards in responding to the active shooter who killed 19 students and two teachers in 2022. But as long as Kindell’s appeal of his termination was ongoing—the ranger has been on paid leave pending the outcome—McCraw faced the specter of a public hearing and potential scrutiny of high-ranking DPS officials, some of whom the U.S. Department of Justice says also violated state policy (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25033561-doj-cops-uvalde#document/p214/a2581807) on the day of the shooting.

On August 2, McCraw suddenly—and without hearing Kindell’s appeal—reversed the firing and sent the ranger back to work. In doing so, the longtime head of DPS avoided having to explain his original decision in an open meeting before the governor-appointed Public Safety Commission, which oversees the state police. Meanwhile, DPS is appealing a judge’s order requiring the state police to release records related to the shooting.

“The agonizing experience this blame shifting has been for the victims’ families in Uvalde is unacceptable,” former Rangers Chief Chance Collins, who said he believes Kindell should never have been fired in the first place, wrote in a text message to the Texas Observer. “Accountability is one of the core values of DPS and it is time the Public Safety Commission held everyone accountable that contributed to this unjustified action and unnecessary anguish.”

DPS didn’t respond to questions for this story. A department spokesperson shared with reporters a letter McCraw sent Kindell, in which the director cites a Uvalde grand jury’s decision (https://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/articles/ucisd-cops-arredondo-gonzales-indicted-in-robb-investigation/) not to indict the ranger as a factor for his reinstatement.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/BlueSky97531/status/1825304842706804895

[koriwhat]

I got a request the other day for a memorial charcoal drawing of a little girl who was unfortunately a victim of a school shooting. So ridiculous what mentally ill people are capable of and how they have no remorse for taking the lives of others and ruining families in the process. What has happened to our country? Ugh...

[Ef-man]

At least 4 killed in Georgia high school shooting and about 30 injured

Waiting to hear GOP thoughts and prayers as they will do shit (much too soon)

[SnakeBoy]

What kind of gun was it?

[ChumpDumper]

What kind of gun was it?

The kind that is used to kill children.

[Blake]

https://x.com/BlueSky97531/status/1825304842706804895

I'm sure someone will try to give him an earful over that

[Winehole23]

This wouldn't have taken away anyone's gun

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[Splits]

taken into custody? white guy

[Winehole23]

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[ducks]

Don’t let Democrats use a school shooting to tell you and others that you need to give up your guns.

14 year olds can’t buy guns.

This is evidence that gun control doesn’t work.

When someone wants to kill someone, they will always find a weapon even if they legally can’t have one.

Sad story but it’s more of an example of bad parenting than “gun violence”.

Gun violence is a conspiracy theory. Inanimate objects can’t be violent.

Mental illness and bad parenting are real though.

[ducks]

taken into custody? white guy

Kid
Covid lockdown
Harris and Biden regime
Mentally unstable kids

[ducks]

https://x.com/BlueSky97531/status/1825304842706804895

Secret service forced Trump on outdoor rally
Trump agreed but he did not to

[ducks]

The FBI in Atlanta just said they have known about the 14 year old school shooter in Georgia who shot up a school today since 2023.

Just a reminder that the FBI allows shootings to take place as a way to help the Democrat Party push for gun control in election year


https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1831489257648886070

[benefactor]

The FBI in Atlanta just said they have known about the 14 year old school shooter in Georgia who shot up a school today since 2023.

Just a reminder that the FBI allows shootings to take place as a way to help the Democrat Party push for gun control in election year


https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1831489257648886070
Conspiracy!

[Ef-man]

Secret service forced Trump on outdoor rally
Trump agreed but he did not to

The secret service cannot force him to do anything, the chicken shit felon begged for bullet proof glass protection, period, end of story.

[Blake]

Don’t let Democrats use a school shooting to tell you and others that you need to give up your guns.

14 year olds can’t buy guns.

This is evidence that gun control doesn’t work.

When someone wants to kill someone, they will always find a weapon even if they legally can’t have one.

Sad story but it’s more of an example of bad parenting than “gun violence”.

Gun violence is a conspiracy theory. Inanimate objects can’t be violent.

Mental illness and bad parenting are real though.

Why stop at 14?

[spurraider21]

Don’t let Democrats use a school shooting to tell you and others that you need to give up your guns.

14 year olds can’t buy guns.

This is evidence that gun control doesn’t work.

When someone wants to kill someone, they will always find a weapon even if they legally can’t have one.

Sad story but it’s more of an example of bad parenting than “gun violence”.

Gun violence is a conspiracy theory. Inanimate objects can’t be violent.

Mental illness and bad parenting are real though.
the only thing events like this prove is the complete bullshit reasoning that gun nuts use when they say crap like

"its better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it"

[spurraider21]

tots, pears, rinse, repeat

its almost not worth getting worked up over it until one of the victims ends up being somebody you know

all this stuff always seemed so abstract until i put one of my own kids in daycare. now i just feel a pit in my stomach with these stories and its just not worth engaging with because half this country cares more about muh guns than kids. then they'll say thats a strawman and they really do care about kids but then propose nothing that will make people safer other than turning schools into militarized prisons. its just absolute madness

[lefty]

Another gold medal for America

[Trainwreck2100]

What kind of gun was it?

A pretty shit one if his body count is 4 dead 30 injured.

[Trainwreck2100]

Also some of you may disagree but I don't care, charging a 14 year old as an adult is fucking asinine, ain't no fucking way a 14 year old from the GA education system has the competency of an adult

[Blake]

Also some of you may disagree but I don't care, charging a 14 year old as an adult is fucking asinine, ain't no fucking way a 14 year old from the GA education system has the competency of an adult

Fine with me. I'd prefer to charge the adult with manslaughter that didn't do enough to keep the gun out of this kid's hands

[ChumpDumper]

Also some of you may disagree but I don't care, charging a 14 year old as an adult is fucking asinine, ain't no fucking way a 14 year old from the GA education system has the competency of an adult

The competency of a rural Georgia adult?

[benefactor]

tots, pears, rinse, repeat

its almost not worth getting worked up over it until one of the victims ends up being somebody you know

all this stuff always seemed so abstract until i put one of my own kids in daycare. now i just feel a pit in my stomach with these stories and its just not worth engaging with because half this country cares more about muh guns than kids. then they'll say thats a strawman and they really do care about kids but then propose nothing that will make people safer other than turning schools into militarized prisons. its just absolute madness
Since when have Republicans cared about kids at any level? They hate public education, they would rather kids starve at school, they won't fix social services, etc.

They love to wave the pro life flag but could give a fuck once the exit the birth canal.

[Trill Clinton]

Sawms are a scourge to society. RIP to the babies who lost their lives. The little demons parents need to be charged for the murders as well.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/notcapnamerica/status/1831544863227023862

[Blake]

https://x.com/notcapnamerica/status/1831544863227023862

E'rry time without fail

[Ef-man]

https://media.11alive.com/assets/WXIA/images/acce4747-a929-4ce9-a9d3-e1d3b7871cff/20240905T153715/acce4747-a929-4ce9-a9d3-e1d3b7871cff_1920x1080.jpg

[Winehole23]

Sawms are a scourge to society. RIP to the babies who lost their lives. The little demons parents need to be charged for the murders as well.parental responsibility varies from state to state, I would guess

Parents of Michigan school shooter sentenced to 10-15 years in prison | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/parents-michigan-school-shooter-be-sentenced-rare-us-case-2024-04-09/)

[Winehole23]

I don't see it mentioned yet that the rifle reportedly used in the shooting was a Christmas gift

[Winehole23]

https://media.11alive.com/assets/WXIA/images/acce4747-a929-4ce9-a9d3-e1d3b7871cff/20240905T153715/acce4747-a929-4ce9-a9d3-e1d3b7871cff_1920x1080.jpg

updated look


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWvRVZOXsAAYDZv?format=png&name=small

[Winehole23]

1831838089419092162

https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1831838089419092162

[Winehole23]

solution: complacence and moar guns

1831844851567985070

https://x.com/AP/status/1831844851567985070

[koriwhat]

the only thing events like this prove is the complete bullshit reasoning that gun nuts use when they say crap like

"its better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it"

Gun nuts huh? Is that the same generalization as, "Everyone MAGA is a hillbilly redneck!"?

The left isn't logical in the least and yall live in a fictitious world made up of bubblegum and marshmallows.

You don't have to be a gun nut to see what's going on with "gun control" and incidents promoted in the MSM. You just choose to be ignorant because you think this is team sports.

[koriwhat]

Sawms are a scourge to society. RIP to the babies who lost their lives. The little demons parents need to be charged for the murders as well.

Tell that to all the "SAMWs" in Chicago murdered on the daily.

[koriwhat]

Since when have Republicans cared about kids at any level? They hate public education, they would rather kids starve at school, they won't fix social services, etc.

They love to wave the pro life flag but could give a fuck once the exit the birth canal.

You say this as if I didn't witness numerous kids living with their homeless parents of the mean streets of LA. Who governs LA & California again?

[koriwhat]

Also some of you may disagree but I don't care, charging a 14 year old as an adult is fucking asinine, ain't no fucking way a 14 year old from the GA education system has the competency of an adult

I'd rather, whether 14 or older, the cops put the shooter down. We don't need to spend anymore of our tax $ on scum like we're doing already in Ukraine.

[koriwhat]

tots, pears, rinse, repeat

its almost not worth getting worked up over it until one of the victims ends up being somebody you know

all this stuff always seemed so abstract until i put one of my own kids in daycare. now i just feel a pit in my stomach with these stories and its just not worth engaging with because half this country cares more about muh guns than kids. then they'll say thats a strawman and they really do care about kids but then propose nothing that will make people safer other than turning schools into militarized prisons. its just absolute madness

You don't care about our Constitutional rights, then find a country more up your alley and move on. :tu

[Winehole23]

we've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWwHV0Pa8AEl-zm?format=jpg&name=900x900

[spurraider21]

Gun nuts huh? Is that the same generalization as, "Everyone MAGA is a hillbilly redneck!"?

The left isn't logical in the least and yall live in a fictitious world made up of bubblegum and marshmallows.

You don't have to be a gun nut to see what's going on with "gun control" and incidents promoted in the MSM. You just choose to be ignorant because you think this is team sports.
it is team sports

there is team "do something rational to stop getting kids murdered" and theres team "no, thats ok"

[spurraider21]

You don't care about our Constitutional rights, then find a country more up your alley and move on. :tu
i care about our right to maintain a well regulated militia

[ducks]

NEVER FORGET: Kamala Harris openly called for taking police officers OUT of schools, so our kids have no one there to protect them from psychopaths trying to gun them down. Her policies would lead to more tragedies

[Winehole23]

nah, I'm good


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWwUpWUXUAAmooF?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ducks]

https://x.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1831826532865921215
So to sum this up, his 13 year old was questioned by the FBI and visited by local law enforcement for threatening a school shooting, and the fathers response was to months later buy him “the” gun that carried out the school shooting!

[monosylab1k]

nah, I'm good


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWwUpWUXUAAmooF?format=jpg&name=900x900

“School shootings are a fact of life” says guy hiding behind bulletproof glass.

How can even the most vigorous Trump slurper defend the optics on this?

[DMX7]

NEVER FORGET: Kamala Harris openly called for taking police officers OUT of schools, so our kids have no one there to protect them from psychopaths trying to gun them down. Her policies would lead to more tragedies

Who do psychopaths keep getting guns, ducks? Maybe better to keep the guns out of their hands to begin with.

[Winehole23]

common sense policies are very popular

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWttXRnWgAAcVqM?format=jpg&name=medium

[ducks]

They should hang them both on national tv
This nonsense will stop

[ducks]

All school shootings last 2 years
Transgender crap

Thanks to Biden and Harris regime

[ducks]

Who do psychopaths keep getting guns, ducks? Maybe better to keep the guns out of their hands to begin with.

Daddy thought after fbi visit be a good idea to buy kid a gun
Why not flag the account ?

[ducks]

Liberals want to perform transgender stuff without parents permission
You really think that is a great idea ?

[ducks]

common sense policies are very popular

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWttXRnWgAAcVqM?format=jpg&name=medium
Yes trump increasing in the polls

[Ef-man]

Daddy thought after fbi visit be a good idea to buy kid a gun
Why not flag the account ?

You cannot flag dad because it would be against the law, as currently written.

[Ef-man]

Liberals want to perform transgender stuff without parents permission
You really think that is a great idea ?

You actually believe that kids go to school and they return home 3-5 days later changed, because the schools made it happen?

You can’t be that dumb or are you?

[Winehole23]

All school shootings last 2 years
Transgender crap

Thanks to Biden and Harris regimeI mean, this sounds very implausible. Can you name more than one?

[Winehole23]

You actually believe that kids go to school and they return home 3-5 days later changed, because the schools made it happen?

You can’t be that dumb or are you?Oh yeah

The school nurses have a sooper sekrit on-site surgery clinic where they perform very expensive sex change procedures on minors with or without consent, for free. Sons suddenly return home daughters and the reverse.

There are even people at the school who try convince your child to do it without telling mom and dad first.

[lebomb]

What parent would buy a 13yr old kid an Assault Rifle? I mean seriously? I would have a hard time buying my kid a BB gun at 13yrs old. This father should get the same amount of time the son gets behind bars.

[Ef-man]

What parent would buy a 13yr old kid an Assault Rifle? I mean seriously? I would have a hard time buying my kid a BB gun at 13yrs old. This father should get the same amount of time the son gets behind bars.

MUh aRmAlItE DOn'T kILl, iT Is OtHer pEoPLe with nON-aRmAlItEs ThaT kiLL!!!

[Trill Clinton]

Tell that to all the "SAMWs" in Chicago murdered on the daily.

Why do yall compare gang violence in Chicago to innocent children dying in mass shootings?

[ChumpDumper]

Why do yall compare gang violence in Chicago to innocent children dying in mass shootings?

So they don't have to accept their responsibility for massacred and terrorized children.

[lebomb]

Basically, everyone kills everyone. Murder has no color choice. Blacks, Whites, Hispanic, Asian, Arab all murder. So people need to stop categorizing.

[koriwhat]

it is team sports

there is team "do something rational to stop getting kids murdered" and theres team "no, thats ok"

The rational thing to do was be a better father and this kid's father wasn't and isn't one.


i care about our right to maintain a well regulated militia

Cool story bro.


Who do psychopaths keep getting guns, ducks? Maybe better to keep the guns out of their hands to begin with.

Criminals will always find a way. Who are you kidding?


Why do yall compare gang violence in Chicago to innocent children dying in mass shootings?

It's not about gang violence vs school shootings. It's about not giving a damn about one while acting like you give a damn about the other.

Same goes for quarantining during 2020 vs it being ok to be in mass crowds unmasked as long as it's for a "good cause" like mostly peaceful protests.

It's all bs.

[Trainwreck2100]

Why do yall compare gang violence in Chicago to innocent children dying in mass shootings?

because they can't say anything so they just flip to whataboutism. Knowing damn well that hood shit and random acts by these predominantly white males are not the same. Even hood shit ain't random, and most of them have rules about kids.

[Ef-man]

"We have to get over it." ~ Yam Tits

[DMX7]

Criminals will always find a way. Who are you kidding?


No, they only find a way in this country which has more of these kinds of incidents than any other developed country BY FAR.

[diego]

The rational thing to do was be a better father and this kid's father wasn't and isn't one.



Cool story bro.



Criminals will always find a way. Who are you kidding?



It's not about gang violence vs school shootings. It's about not giving a damn about one while acting like you give a damn about the other.

Same goes for quarantining during 2020 vs it being ok to be in mass crowds unmasked as long as it's for a "good cause" like mostly peaceful protests.

It's all bs.

criminals will find a way, people accept that criminality will always exist and thats why we have laws and police. but when any mopey mentally ill teenager can get a gun and shoot up their school its not at all the same. and it practically doesnt happen in other countries, and those countries mostly have lower crime rates too despite having criminals, gangs and guns.

quarantining vs mass crowds unmasked is also a terrible analogy, one is indoors the other is outdoors, school children are known to transmit diseases more, and maybe people not knowing what to do in a pandemic that happens every hundred years isnt at all comparable to school shootings that happen several times a year with nothing but duck and cover solutions done about them...

[ducks]

Thirteen mass shooters in the United States were on the FBI
watch list. They didn't stop
any of them.

[ChumpDumper]

Thirteen mass shooters in the United States were on the FBI
watch list. They didn't stop
any of them.
What are they supposed to do when daddeh gives him a gun?

[ducks]

The mother of the Georgia School Sh**ter Colt Gray called the school the morning of the sh**ting, warning them of an “extreme emergency,” with her son according to WaPo

Yet the school FAILED to properly act on it, and the sh**ting happened moments later.

This is INSANE. School administrators should be held LIABLE for allowing this to happen.

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1832555942577369492

[Ef-man]

Alt ducks is pro killing kids, even his fake ones

[ChumpDumper]

The mother of the Georgia School Sh**ter Colt Gray called the school the morning of the sh**ting, warning them of an “extreme emergency,” with her son according to WaPo

Yet the school FAILED to properly act on it, and the sh**ting happened moments later.

This is INSANE. School administrators should be held LIABLE for allowing this to happen.

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1832555942577369492
Did you read the story, ducks?

Or just deranged tweets?

[ducks]

The USA has over 20,000 gun laws.

Guns are not the issue..

It's the person behind it pulling the trigger.

We have a mental health issue, and instead of fixing it.

Kamala wants to continue giving mind altering drugs to kids and young adults

[ChumpDumper]

The USA has over 20,000 gun laws.

Guns are not the issue..

It's the person behind it pulling the trigger.

We have a mental health issue, and instead of fixing it.

Kamala wants to continue giving mind altering drugs to kids and young adultsUh, isn't that how many mental health issues are fixed?

What's your proposed treatment for mental health issues, ducks?

[Ef-man]

GOP response to school shootings: Quick, to the thoughts and prayers!!!!!

[ducks]

Chump here is your link you lazy sob
Mother of shooting suspect called Apalachee High School and drove 200 miles after getting alarming text, grandfather says
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/us/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-saturday/index.html

[Ef-man]

Alt ducks posting shit (and with a complete sentence for a change) as he did not read the article :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Chump here is your link you lazy sob
Mother of shooting suspect called Apalachee High School and drove 200 miles after getting alarming text, grandfather says
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/us/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-saturday/index.html

:lol I read the Wapo article.

Did you?

[MultiTroll]

Two 12-year-old girls arrested in Texas over threats to commit school shooting (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/two-12-year-old-girls-arrested-in-texas-over-threats-to-commit-school-shooting/ar-AA1qp7MQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e0f8a028015a4e2f9d7f222bd6bc3dbb&ei=59)

Laredo

[Blake]

2nd grader made 911 call about shooting, police chief says
From CNN's Steve Almasy
A second grader at Abundant Life Christian School called 911 to report the shooting Monday, Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes told reporters.

“Let that soak in for a minute,” he said at the news conference. “A second grade student called 911 at 10:57 a.m to report a shooting at school.”

..... Abundant Life Christian School does not have metal detectors, but it does have “a number of security protocols in place,” Wiers said. The school also trained with the Madison Police Department earlier this year about what to do in an active shooter situation, she said...."

The students had handled themselves “magnificently” during the shooting once they realized it wasn’t a drill, said Barbara Wiers, a school official. Wiers also said that the families responded with support, patience and kindness and offered prayers. “We also have a very strong faith in our community that in spite of tragedy, God is working,” she said, referring to the community’s faith.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/abundant-life-christian-school-shooting-madison-12-16-24/index.html

So how could this have been stopped?

Rhetorical question.

[HemisfairArena]

It was a 15 year old girl as the shooter,,,,,times are a changin',,,,,another school shooting under the cryptkeepers watch,,,,,

What data tells us about 2024 school shootings in the US - ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-17/us-school-shootings-2024-in-numbers/104734714)

Biden's presidency or lack thereof has been the reign of terror in regards to school shooting,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

It was a 15 year old girl as the shooter,,,,,times are a changin',,,,,another school shooting under the cryptkeepers watch,,,,,

What data tells us about 2024 school shootings in the US - ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-17/us-school-shootings-2024-in-numbers/104734714)

Biden's presidency or lack thereof has been the reign of terror in regards to school shooting,,,,,

I hear Trump is going to put tariffs on them.

[HemisfairArena]

I hear Trump is going to put tariffs on them.

Holy shit, Chumper has been broken,,,,if this is the best ya got, Chumper,,,,,,my condolences,,,,,:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Holy shit, Chumper has been broken,,,,if this is the best ya got, Chumper,,,,,,my condolences,,,,,:lmao

OK, what do you got?

What is your plan to stop school shootings?

[Spurs Homer]

No sympathy for the victims and the pearl clutchers of this or any shooting in the future from me. Not even thoughts and prayers.

Keep voting for billionaires that love muh gunz - and your kids and my kids - are now fair game. We get the gubmint we deserve so - in essense-

we got what we paid for.

Amerikkka.

FDIC getting eliminated by the russian assets elected to power? Your money gone. Billionaire owned banks will be forgiven after they file for solvency and screw you. Hope you survive- if not - too bad.
Economy going to get intentionally tanked so that billionaires can thrive and buy while every stock is cheap? Too bad-you voted for it.

Media silenced and self-censored due to complicit billionaires running the media? It will ALL be FOX PROPAGANDA ENTERTAINMENT -

On all channels.

We deserve it.

[Winehole23]

Children don't have a high enough status in our society for politicians to protect them -- they generally draw the line at demagoguing kids. Passing actual public safety solutions would give people a mistaken idea about the true purpose of government.

[Winehole23]

very episodic CEO murders are "terrorism" but school shootings are just routine, I guess

CEOs get a tip line directly to the state of NY, murdered kids get thoughts and prayers


Last Thursday, New York Governor Kathy Hochul told MSNBC’s Morning Joe about her plans to hold a “proactive” meeting on Tuesday with 175 corporate representatives as well as Homeland Security and counterterrorism officials to discuss how to share intelligence with corporate security, according to (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2024/12/13/security-worries-00194193) Kathy Wylde, CEO of the Partnership for New York City.

The meeting is one of several signs that officials are trying to elevate the murder to a matter of domestic terrorism. Commenting on her conversations with Hochul, Wydle said (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2024/12/13/security-worries-00194193) that “she wants to make sure that the state resources, specifically the domestic counterterrorism resources, are focused on being supportive, sharing information.”
New Crisis Hotline for CEOs? - Ken Klippenstein (https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/new-crisis-hotline-for-ceos)

[Winehole23]

lol demonization

is that what you call it when you accurately describe what the financial sector did leading up to the Great Financial Crisis?


“Demonization of corporate executives is not new,” Wylde told Politico (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2024/12/13/security-worries-00194193) last week. “It was part of the rhetoric in the financial crisis of 2008-09.”

[Winehole23]

in a possibly fake viral manifesto, Natalie Rupnow declares her admiration for Neo-Nazis and the El Paso shooter

but she also allegedly hates men, so right wingers will focus on that and will (almost surely erroneously) call her trans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge9--9RWYAAMoZI?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qjadecomc6zmfvpzqnxnazrp/bafkreicvtxhxutcscmdns3fy3dfan5dnd44q2wb6mrxovfng7 3msmfghi4@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Children don't have a high enough status in our society for politicians to protect them -- they generally draw the line at demagoguing kids. Passing actual public safety solutions would give people a mistaken idea about the true purpose of government.


In England, at this day, if elections were open to all classes of people, the property of the landed proprietors would be insecure. An agrarian law would soon take place. If these observations be just, our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.Term of the Senate, [26 June] 1787 (https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-10-02-0044)

[Thread]

Children don't have a high enough status in our society for politicians to protect them -- they generally draw the line at demagoguing kids. Passing actual public safety solutions would give people a mistaken idea about the true purpose of government.

Boiled down...you want the guns.

No.

[Winehole23]

die faster for muh gunz


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreidnp7fd37im5cwzyka4t4z46glo7iqs7dmljj6vzbdfp 3mx5hvjnq@jpeg

[Blake]

die faster for muh gunz


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreidnp7fd37im5cwzyka4t4z46glo7iqs7dmljj6vzbdfp 3mx5hvjnq@jpeg

The DOGE must have gotten to it

[Blake]

"....least one person is dead and another is in custody after an active shooter was reported at Florida State University's campus in Tallahassee....."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/florida-state-university-active-shooter-rcna201756

Thoughts and prayers arriving on the scene

[ChumpDumper]

Things like this take place.

[SnakeBoy]

Son of a DEI sheriff used her gun

smh

[Thread]

Son of a DEI sheriff used her gun

smh

Whoops-e-daisy.

[GAustex]

Get the social media
It’s one of whinewhores buddies

[Winehole23]

whoopsie


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ltx2khp7g7jtnzz6weh6tiqe/bafkreigovpyq336jkofoiolptvb5le3yk667cfufxm26gxzka rmoc7e2om@jpeghttps://www.npr.org/2025/04/17/nx-s1-5368177/fsu-shooting-injures-multiple-people

[Winehole23]

Son of a DEI sheriff used her gun

smhwhat is a DEI sheriff?

[Thread]

whoopsie

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/17/nx-s1-5368177/fsu-shooting-injures-multiple-people

Is he White?

[SnakeBoy]

what is a DEI sheriff?

The mother of the shooter, sheriff deputy actually. All female cops are DEI.

The sheriff may or may not be DEI. You decide.

https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ad057b4/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1280x672+0+24/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https:%2F%2Fx-default-stgec.uplynk.com%2Fausw%2Fslices%2Fc0e%2Fa97ad276f 83142cda1b35edbfd83fcc1%2Fc0ee786c295441e4bd1fdc31 46b4b722%2Fposter_e356a27c74834a9f85d1af0327cac1f3 .jpg

[Blake]

The mother of the shooter, sheriff deputy actually. All female cops are DEI.

The sheriff may or may not be DEI. You decide.

https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ad057b4/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1280x672+0+24/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https:%2F%2Fx-default-stgec.uplynk.com%2Fausw%2Fslices%2Fc0e%2Fa97ad276f 83142cda1b35edbfd83fcc1%2Fc0ee786c295441e4bd1fdc31 46b4b722%2Fposter_e356a27c74834a9f85d1af0327cac1f3 .jpg

Is this supposed to make the victims' families feel better? Do you even have a point?

[Winehole23]

DEI = nonwhite

[ChumpDumper]

The mother of the shooter, sheriff deputy actually. All female cops are DEI.Howso?

[Trill Clinton]

Son of a DEI sheriff used her gun

smh


Whoops-e-daisy.

The usual suspect. All school shooters should be sent on the first thing smoking to El Salvador.

[SnakeBoy]

1913042288705515935

[Trill Clinton]

1912979609676587474

1913057666504482921

[ChumpDumper]

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