Another school shooting?

[ChumpDumper]

lol

he holds his assault rifle- right before clicking on “reply”

cue the “assault” rifle argument now

It's hilarious that they keep losing their shit over it.

You can totally spare their mental health if you want by calling them "assault-style weapons" but it's more fun to watch them meltdown when literally everyone knows what's being discussed.

[Blake]

Wasn't someone here saying that Dems wait for an event like this then try to push quick legislation? Of course they did.

They've been pushing legislation like this all along.

Let's see if the Republican governor tries to push quick legislation.

[Blake]

It's hilarious that they keep losing their shit over it.

You can totally spare their mental health if you want by calling them "assault-style weapons" but it's more fun to watch them meltdown when literally everyone knows what's being discussed.

:lol

[Spurs Homer]

No, if I could go back in time I'd stop the shooter.

Much easier than trying to bullet proof every school kid in America every day of the week forever.

lol. DMC = Defending Muh Criminals

would rather lay carpet on the entire planet-
instead of buying a comfortable pair of shoes

[Blake]

An interesting statistic to remember while everyone loses their shit on "assault rifles" is they are only used in 3% of the murders in the US. I am not advocating. I was just curious and looked it up.

What's a good percentage to remove the word "only" in your post?

[DMC]

No, if I could go back in time I'd stop the shooter.

Much easier than trying to bullet proof every school kid in America every day of the week forever.

The bullet proof vest was a strawman from ElNono. Not surprised you went right after it :lol

I never suggested that in my list. However given the option between that vs what happened, I'd choose any protection over none.

[DMC]

What's a good percentage to remove the word "only" in your post?

Words matter now.

[DMC]

lol. DMC = Defending Muh Criminals

would rather lay carpet on the entire planet-
instead of buying a comfortable pair of shoes

Sounds like your tact. You want to wait for blanket legislation instead of hardening these soft targets.

[Th'Pusher]

Seems like there's something we can do to keep depressed 18 year olds from buying heavy artillery* on credit that's easier than any of the proposed school security options.



*Acknowledging that faggot gun nerds will probably take issue with my calling an AR-15 "heavy artillery" because of their stupid definition no one cares about.

Nerds is too genus term. They’re gun cultists and 2A cultists. Completely captured cultists.

[DMC]

Nerds is too genus term. They’re gun cultists and 2A cultists. Completely captured cultists.

wut

[pgardn]

An interesting statistic to remember while everyone loses their shit on "assault rifles" is they are only used in 3% of the murders in the US. I am not advocating. I was just curious and looked it up.

1. Where did you get the number? Its interesting and I dont doubt it, its just that I have also looked up some stuff and on a deeper dive we dont keep good numbers on this, at all. But it seems reasonable.

2. The other 97% are then in a ton of categories as well probably. I bet the majority are of the type that involves ongoing criminal activity drug stuff. And this is where the method and the targets of these guns is important to the general public.

3. There is a clear difference where "dead is dead", is ethically very different to the public. Gun wielding drug dealers killing each other is NOT the same as a kid acquiring an AR in a rage who kills a load of totally innocent CHILDREN or other mixed populations of ages in crowded spots. It not a dead is dead by gun event to most people in the US. If we could lower that supposed 3%, THAT IS PROGRESS.

4. Part of the rage over this supposed 3% is also is the sheer numbers killed very quickly in one event, not just that they are innocent. This clearly involves using a machine that has these capabilities and is relatively easy to get a hold of. Something that will do the job of killing a fairly large number of people quickly. This, imo, is why the excessively extended term, GUN CONTROL, is used as it implies more than just rules concerning the requisite killing machine(s). This term scares non caring gunowners, where it seems that people who own guns and use them safely, understand the term. These guys open carrying into a dog park are often vilified by concerned gunowners. There are also various conversations among the gunowners I know about the ability to put an unnecessary number of bullets into a clip of excessive carrying capacity in their opinion.

5. It seems these large killing events involve certain types of machines. So why not look into how these particular machines allow these types of infrequent disasters, instead of, "its just crazy people"?

6. The type of offender is also important to identify. Yes, the guy in Las Vegas probably escapes almost all restrictions that might be proposed. It is a bit more difficult to do the deed, but he is bright and evil and will get the job done eventually. But the most violent offenders in almost any country, young males 15-25, dont think like this for the most part. And if they carryout all the detailed planning required and are really smart and expertly playrole it all out before the actual event, its tough to stop.

7. So its not just numbers of dead 3%. Its not an argument amongst "bad guys" in Chicago. Its innocent kids and other people being taken out in large numbers quickly. imo the general public feels this way. So its to avoid specific types of events that kill totally innocent people; Ethically bizarre or not.

But we cant lower these numbers at all?, its impossible because... crazy. I disagree.
Or, more health care that is clearly NOT available nor really cared about by gun nerds when this blows over.

8. The NRA clearly employs the slippery slope argument AND, caters to members who wont use these killing machines in this killing spree manner but want it easily available for the gun nerds that dont give a shit, they just want the toy. And they can get their toy with more restrictions, but paranoia of "taking my guns" creeps in.

9. There are also people in the gun control category who dont like the idea that even a single gun in a household. The readily available weapon during an alcoholic infused depressive state allows people (males mostly) to get rid of themselves easy on a whim, along with the numerous accidents that clearly occur. IMO, this is a different category of problem.

10. I have no idea why I numbered the above.

tldr incoming... that ok.

[pgardn]

Sounds like your tact. You want to wait for blanket legislation instead of hardening these soft targets.

It takes more than soft targetS. Plural emphasized.
It takes the right machine(s) to do the job

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like your tact. You want to wait for blanket legislation instead of hardening these soft targets.

$1,000,000+ for every public k-12 school would require blanket legislation.

And would just bunch kids outside to die there.

[DMC]

It takes more than soft targetS. Plural emphasized.
It takes the right machine(s) to do the job

I used the plural form. You could have done the job with a kitchen knife. Once he locks himself inside that room, who's going to stop him? Certainly not the Uvalde police. The left cannot prevent people from getting guns. They never have. The right doesn't want to. Schools, especially these grades, have to be secure. The piggy with the brick house survived the big bad wolf. He didn't lobby congress to defang and declaw the wolf.

[pgardn]

Teachers need guns?

So you have over 200 teachers in large high schools with the perfect age group of males that can be troubled.
Just great; the gun is NOW available at school. In large numbers. And I guess the kids wont discuss it in large groups.
"Damn, if Mrs. Crutchfield has access to a gun, how do we stop her from using it?"

Or something more sinister.
If anyone remembers HS, kids can be quite creative at figuring out complex problems when they work in groups and get to choose the problem to solve.
Where is the gun and how...
And the quiet kid who hates them all taking notes... wonderful. Group project for a disturbed individual, Yes!

The formula probably does not go as stated above. But ways this can go wrong... jesus...

[DMC]

1. Where did you get the number? Its interesting and I dont doubt it, its just that I have also looked up some stuff and on a deeper dive we dont keep good numbers on this, at all. But it seems reasonable.

2. The other 97% are then in a ton of categories as well probably. I bet the majority are of the type that involves ongoing criminal activity drug stuff. And this is where the method and the targets of these guns is important to the general public.

3. There is a clear difference where "dead is dead", is ethically very different to the public. Gun wielding drug dealers killing each other is NOT the same as a kid acquiring an AR in a rage who kills a load of totally innocent CHILDREN or other mixed populations of ages in crowded spots. It not a dead is dead by gun event to most people in the US. If we could lower that supposed 3%, THAT IS PROGRESS.

4. Part of the rage over this supposed 3% is also is the sheer numbers killed very quickly in one event, not just that they are innocent. This clearly involves using a machine that has these capabilities and is relatively easy to get a hold of. Something that will do the job of killing a fairly large number of people quickly. This, imo, is why the excessively extended term, GUN CONTROL, is used as it implies more than just rules concerning the requisite killing machine(s). This term scares non caring gunowners, where it seems that people who own guns and use them safely, understand the term. These guys open carrying into a dog park are often vilified by concerned gunowners. There are also various conversations among the gunowners I know about the ability to put an unnecessary number of bullets into a clip of excessive carrying capacity in their opinion.

5. It seems these large killing events involve certain types of machines. So why not look into how these particular machines allow these types of infrequent disasters, instead of, "its just crazy people"?

6. The type of offender is also important to identify. Yes, the guy in Las Vegas probably escapes almost all restrictions that might be proposed. It is a bit more difficult to do the deed, but he is bright and evil and will get the job done eventually. But the most violent offenders in almost any country, young males 15-25, dont think like this for the most part. And if they carryout all the detailed planning required and are really smart and expertly playrole it all out before the actual event, its tough to stop.

7. So its not just numbers of dead 3%. Its not an argument amongst "bad guys" in Chicago. Its innocent kids and other people being taken out in large numbers quickly. imo the general public feels this way. So its to avoid specific types of events that kill totally innocent people; Ethically bizarre or not.

But we cant lower these numbers at all?, its impossible because... crazy. I disagree.
Or, more health care that is clearly NOT available nor really cared about by gun nerds when this blows over.

8. The NRA clearly employs the slippery slope argument AND, caters to members who wont use these killing machines in this killing spree manner but want it easily available for the gun nerds that dont give a shit, they just want the toy. And they can get their toy with more restrictions, but paranoia of "taking my guns" creeps in.

9. There are also people in the gun control category who dont like the idea that even a single gun in a household. The readily available weapon during an alcoholic infused depressive state allows people (males mostly) to get rid of themselves easy on a whim, along with the numerous accidents that clearly occur. IMO, this is a different category of problem.

10. I have no idea why I numbered the above.

tldr incoming... that ok.

This is actually a good writeup. As you said, these are different issues and the goal of each action needs to be clearly laid out.

[boutons_deux]

Opinion

I’m from Uvalde.

I’m not surprised this happened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/29/uvalde-shooting-warning-signs-racism-poverty-guns

[DMC]

Teachers need guns?

So you have over 200 teachers in large high schools with the perfect age group of males that can be troubled.
Just great; the gun is NOW available at school. In large numbers. And I guess the kids wont discuss it in large groups.
"Damn, if Mrs. Crutchfield has access to a gun, how do we stop her from using it?"

Or something more sinister.
If anyone remembers HS, kids can be quite creative at figuring out complex problems when they work in groups and get to choose the problem to solve.
Where is the gun and how...
And the quiet kid who hates them all taking notes... wonderful. Group project for a disturbed individual, Yes!

The formula probably does not go as stated above. But ways this can go wrong... jesus...

I wouldn't arm teachers. Creating a barrier and hardening the entries plus providing a true safe space for classrooms to retreat to (or simply the room itself serves in that capacity) is more feasible. In the moment anything seems better than the alternative.

[pgardn]

I used the plural form. You could have done the job with a kitchen knife. Once he locks himself inside that room, who's going to stop him? Certainly not the Uvalde police. The left cannot prevent people from getting guns. They never have. The right doesn't want to. Schools, especially these grades, have to be secure. The piggy with the brick house survived the big bad wolf. He didn't lobby congress to defang and declaw the wolf.

Yeah Id like to see you kill 19 kids and two teachers without anyone running about and putting up a fight.
They lie prone for you to select just the right artery, just like a neat little surgery.
And no gun shots to make the room next door thunker down, just a lot of thumping around and screaming, no one would investigate and even try to enter it?


why did the perp use a gun then? Its much easier to get in with a hidden knife
Its amazing that other kids that have done these deeds dont use knifes? Wow... its that easy.
And there are plenty of knife attacks in GB... But the mass killings of kids in school???

gtfoh grumps your arguments sucks.
NO, a knife would be much, much more difficult.
Bring all the kids and the teachers in sedated on gurneys for processing... just stop.

[pgardn]

I wouldn't arm teachers. Creating a barrier and hardening the entries plus providing a true safe space for classrooms to retreat to (or simply the room itself serves in that capacity) is more feasible. In the moment anything seems better than the alternative.

Fine.
Its been suggested by a number of Texas legislators that have more power in school rules than you do.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC needs to start a Bunkers for Band Practice bond initiative.

Those kids are just marching around in circles in open fields!

Fences are not enough!

You can't stop people from buying mortars!

[pgardn]

Someone had no idea that guns make very different noises than trying to slash kids and teachers running about with a knife.
And a lot more...

[DMC]

Yeah Id like to see you kill 19 kids and two teachers without anyone running about and putting up a fight.
They lie prone for you to select just the right artery, just like a neat little surgery.
And no gun shots to make the room next door thunker down, just a lot of thumping around and screaming, no on would investigate and even try to enter it?


why did the perp use a gun then? Its much easier to get in with a hidden knife
Its amazing that other kids that have done these deeds dont use knifes? Wow... its that easy.
And there are plenty of knife attacks in GB... But the mass killings of kids in school???

gtfoh grumps your arguments sucks.
NO, a knife would be much, much more difficult.
Bring all the kids and the teachers in sedated on gurneys for processing... just stop.
These are small kids. They aren't going to assemble like an autobot.

It couldn't have been any easier to get in. He just walked in through unlocked doors. He didn't need to hide anything.

He used a gun because he thought it was cool, he wanted to shoot people. Had he wanted to burn people alive or kill them via explosion or by running over them, he could have done so. People have done all of these things. The key is to keep unauthorized people out of the school. That doesn't solve the issue of students being the shooters, but it does protect the little ones in elementary schools.

You should grow up some. You like yourself more than anyone else likes you.

Again, name your goal and solve that issue. You're not going to solve all gun related murders with legislation. There's no reason you cannot do both legislation and fortification of the schools.

[DMC]

Fine.
Its been suggested by a number of Texas legislators that have more power in school rules than you do.

None of us have any power in these things, but you just puked that up like someone here suggested it, without a reference.

[DMC]

Old shaky hands still in pursuit :lol

[Blake]

Words matter now.

They're your words. Duly noted they don't matter.

[pgardn]

These are small kids. They aren't going to assemble like an autobot.

It couldn't have been any easier to get in. He just walked in through unlocked doors. He didn't need to hide anything.

He used a gun because he thought it was cool, he wanted to shoot people. Had he wanted to burn people alive or kill them via explosion or by running over them, he could have done so. People have done all of these things. The key is to keep unauthorized people out of the school. That doesn't solve the issue of students being the shooters, but it does protect the little ones in elementary schools.

You should grow up some. You like yourself more than anyone else likes you.

Again, name your goal and solve that issue. You're not going to solve all gun related murders with legislation. There's no reason you cannot do both legislation and fortification of the schools.

You did not read #5 And then think about the actual incidents of this magnitude carried out with knifes.

I like myself...
You got that out of the post(s) above. Just because you know guns and I said your knife scenario was ludicrous.
And no one likes me. If you get your thrills out of Chris Christian and koriwhat liking on a flippn internet SPORTS board...
From Mrs. Crutchfield to Demented Dr. Phil... wow.

Yeah I could use some growing up.

Thats why I use older folks who actually put up good articles on subjects I like as I dont have the time to find these.
I also make a concerted attempt to actually meet and talk to older folks who have a lot of experience in things I find interesting.
In short, I value experienced people. I believe in expertise unlike our unseated president.

That being said I can rationalize a lot of stuff if it gets too complicated and interferes with current notions.
But at least Im trying. And yes I believe I can be extremely rude, unlike I would be in person.

If growing up means becoming a selfish, self inflated old boomer, I dont want to grow up.

[pgardn]

None of us have any power in these things, but you just puked that up like someone here suggested it, without a reference.

The laws are already in place, but not for every teacher and most districts dont use the law. Someone had to write these laws.
I should have said legislators. edit ducks for one did. I dont have to go look for that. could be more.

As for recently,

Trained and armed school staff could help quickly respond to on-campus violence “because the reality is we don’t have the resources to have law enforcement at every school,” state Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton told Fox News in the aftermath of Tuesday’s mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.


Politico.
Look it up yourself.
And this is our AG, possibly the most powerful leader in the State.
So I just puked it up...

Keep going.

[pgardn]

Yeah so I wonder how many of the red team on this site voted for Paxton.
Im betting a very high %

[Th'Pusher]

wut
Generous…autocorrect

Maybe look for context clues

[DMC]

They're your words. Duly noted they don't matter.

:lol "only"

[DMC]

Generous…autocorrect

Maybe look for context clues

Maybe check your shit

[DMC]

You did not read #5 And then think about the actual incidents of this magnitude carried out with knifes.

I like myself...
You got that out of the post(s) above. Just because you know guns and I said your knife scenario was ludicrous.
And no one likes me. If you get your thrills out of Chris Christian and koriwhat liking on a flippn internet SPORTS board...
From Mrs. Crutchfield to Demented Dr. Phil... wow.

Yeah I could use some growing up.

Thats why I use older folks who actually put up good articles on subjects I like as I dont have the time to find these.
I also make a concerted attempt to actually meet and talk to older folks who have a lot of experience in things I find interesting.
In short, I value experienced people. I believe in expertise unlike our unseated president.

That being said I can rationalize a lot of stuff if it gets too complicated and interferes with current notions.
But at least Im trying. And yes I believe I can be extremely rude, unlike I would be in person.

If growing up means becoming a selfish, self inflated old boomer, I dont want to grow up.

I didn't say you're not old. I said you need to grow up. You get so butthurt and pout so often you're basically a child.

[Blake]

These are small kids. They aren't going to assemble like an autobot.

It couldn't have been any easier to get in. He just walked in through unlocked doors. He didn't need to hide anything.

He used a gun because he thought it was cool, he wanted to shoot people. Had he wanted to burn people alive or kill them via explosion or by running over them, he could have done so. People have done all of these things. The key is to keep unauthorized people out of the school.

What if they're on the playground?

Second time

[Blake]

I didn't say you're not old. I said you need to grow up. You get so butthurt and pout so often you're basically a child.

That's rich

[Blake]

:lol "only"

Yes. That's a word that changes the context.

Your reading skills really blow.

[SnakeBoy]

1531274563962773504

[Dick Jones]

He used a gun because he thought it was cool, he wanted to shoot people. Had he wanted to burn people alive or kill them via explosion or by running over them, he could have done so.
lol this stupid even for you. The armed security there would have acted far less cowardly if the killer didn’t have the ability to shoot back at them. The school could have evacuated immediately if he tried to set it on fire. He doesn’t have access to explosives strong enough to kill 19 children because, you know, laws.

19 kids aren’t dying in any other scenario besides him having a gun.

[Th'Pusher]

Maybe check your shit

Ok. Just a note, this shit isn’t nearly as important to some on this site as it is to you.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC still shitposting from his bunker.

[Th'Pusher]

:lol DMC still shitposting from his bunker.

Just a miserable human being.

[Spurs Homer]

Sounds like your tact. You want to wait for blanket legislation instead of hardening these soft targets.

brilliant!

except - that….

EVERY FUCKING PLACE - is a soft target you moron!

[Spurs Homer]

Funeral homes in uvalde overwhelmed…

waiting for the

FACIAL RECONSTRUCTIONISTS!

yay! Muh gunz!

[Spurs Homer]

Media needs to begin showing UNaltered/uncensored

images/videos of the complete scene/damage/bodies torn apart, faces unrecognizable
to show what these assault weapons are capable of doing to children

maybe then- as these videos/images go viral-
maybe then - all these idiots who idolize gunz can live with their fanatical idiotic support

[SnakeBoy]

Media needs to begin showing UNaltered/uncensored

images/videos of the complete scene/damage/bodies torn apart, faces unrecognizable
to show what these assault weapons are capable of doing to children

maybe then- as these videos/images go viral-
maybe then - all these idiots who idolize gunz can live with their fanatical idiotic support

If only people knew what bullets can do

[boutons_deux]

America has already suffered 11 mass shootings this Memorial Day weekend


https://www.rawstory.com/mass-shooting-2657414007/

[pgardn]

I didn't say you're not old. I said you need to grow up. You get so butthurt and pout so often you're basically a child.


Your self awareness is astounding.

Just capitulate, your knife example is just plain ignorant.
Yes, it hurts you, but thats what it is.
Your knowledge of people not wanting to arm teachers is lacking... you just keep digging ditches and think you can crawl out.

No one likes me, while you get an ass pounding on this thread from all sides.
And I am butthurt, then you go crying about some united brotherhood of Spurs libs are after you when the facts are you just post stupid things and cant handle the return fire.
Im sorry you feel so isolated.

[pgardn]

If only people knew what bullets can do

You have actually witnessed a person being shot in front of you?

"What are all these babies crying about? These kids and adults need counseling down in tough-men Uvalde, hah! Why Ive seen a person's head explode. Yep..."

[ChumpDumper]

Funeral homes in uvalde overwhelmed…

waiting for the

FACIAL RECONSTRUCTIONISTS!

yay! Muh gunz!

My kid has a face vest. Why doesn't yours?

[Ef-man]

If only people knew what bullets can do

Ducks was calling the shooting a hoax unless images of dead kids were shown. Probably not sole MAGAtard wanting the images, so there is that.

[Winehole23]

I actually found it. It concerned the high prices of lumber.
And I thought you found it and sent it via mail so I really gave a "thanks for the effort" in the post above but then reading the mail I realized you did not find the article.
Now, I subsequently cannot find it. I had to look through a big thread topic iirc.
Anyways the supply line problems at different points gave me a weird sorta de ja vu moment with biochemical pathways working a lot like this so I wanted to read it again.
But... I cant fkn find it now.

It basically blamed the lumber shortage on a number of factors: insects, lack of saw mills, time it takes to construct a saw mill, covid demand for remodeling, etc... and different elements in the path got blocked in different ways at different times and then you sort of had a negative feedback type situation which is really why I wanted to re read it. So if you do find it... And Im still looking because it was really interesting.ok, I'll see what I can find, it's likely to be in one of the two or three dedicated monopoly/antitrust threads I've started

[Winehole23]

Coulter compares the shooter to Rittenhouse.

1530577442565406721

[SnakeBoy]

You have actually witnessed a person being shot in front of you?


No but I watched Paul Harrel shoot meat targets on youtube, pretty much the same thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoJG7wFjXY

He also showed me why my tomahawk self defense plan was flawed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SusFLg_f_g8


So yeah, I'm basically an expert now.

[DMC]

I think the military has a more potent version, M-5, either in planning or maybe some produced. So we might be seeing said Nerds wacking off to this wanting to be the first to own one. This version apparently delivers a larger piece of metal so that when the common robber enters our home we can spray the entire neighborhood with this thing as it apparently can penetrate pretty significant barriers.

Defensive system upgrade.
Coming soon.
Be the first on your block to pretend its your peanuts.
M5 can be chambered in multiple cartridges. The platform has existed for a while in AR-15. I built my own. No one is going to whack off wanting to be the 1st, they aren't going to sell these to the general public.

[DMC]

No but I watched Paul Harrel shoot meat targets on youtube, pretty much the same thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoJG7wFjXY

He also showed me why my tomahawk self defense plan was flawed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SusFLg_f_g8


So yeah, I'm basically an expert now.

You have the wrong kind of Tomahawk. You need one you can launch and guide from your bedroom.

[DMC]

Coulter compares the shooter to Rittenhouse.

1530577442565406721

No, stupid. He's compared to the Uvalde police department.

[DMC]

Your self awareness is astounding.

Just capitulate, your knife example is just plain ignorant.
Yes, it hurts you, but thats what it is.
Your knowledge of people not wanting to arm teachers is lacking... you just keep digging ditches and think you can crawl out.

No one likes me, while you get an ass pounding on this thread from all sides.
And I am butthurt, then you go crying about some united brotherhood of Spurs libs are after you when the facts are you just post stupid things and cant handle the return fire.
Im sorry you feel so isolated.

Says Mr "spray the neighborhood" with a non transferrable automatic weapon purchased while ignoring FOPA. When I point out your stupidity you claim you didn't say that, even when I quote your post again :lol

[DMC]

Ok. Just a note, this shit isn’t nearly as important to some on this site as it is to you.

Or what's behind door number 2, you're a sloppy retard.

[DMC]

Yes. That's a word that changes the context.

Your reading skills really blow.

So if you had a 3% chance of living to see tomorrow, would you accept the "only" then?

[Blake]

Coulter compares the shooter to Rittenhouse.

1530577442565406721

What a bizarre thing to say, even for Coulter

[Blake]

So if you had a 3% chance of living to see tomorrow, would you accept the "only" then?

Totally the same comparison. Only it's not.

[DMC]

Totally the same comparison. Only it's not.

3% is 3%. If you take "only" as meaning "insignificant" then would you give up that 3% chance to live?

[pgardn]

M5 can be chambered in multiple cartridges. The platform has existed for a while in AR-15. I built my own. No one is going to whack off wanting to be the 1st, they aren't going to sell these to the general public.

THEY are'nt?

Did you make something like it or not?
So YOU wont sell one.
And neither will THEY?

If you can make one, then someone else can. But you know THEY wont sell it to the "general public."
DMC not being the general public of course.

wtf... are you saying here? You are just a mass of contradictions and assumptions.

[Blake]

3% is 3%. If you take "only" as meaning "insignificant" then would you give up that 3% chance to live?

You still have the semantics in your own post to deal with without worrying about CCs.

[pgardn]

ok, I'll see what I can find, it's likely to be in one of the two or three dedicated monopoly/antitrust threads I've started

If I remember correctly it was fairly lengthy 2-3 pages. I have tried to find it just by general googling and such and find pieces that have components what was mentioned, the beetles, the saw mill problem, but not the whole ball of wax with some timing mentioned.
Thanks.

[Blake]

".....One teacher went to lock the door, but Miah says the shooter was already right there — and shot out the window in the door.

She described it all happening so fast — her teacher backed into the classroom and the gunman followed. She told CNN he made eye contact with one of the teachers, said, "Goodnight," and then shot her.
He opened fire, shooting the other teacher and many of Miah's friends. She said bullets flew by her, and fragments hit her shoulders and head. The girl was later treated at the hospital and released with fragment wounds; she described to CNN that clumps of her hair were falling out now.
Miah said after shooting students in her class, the gunman went through a door into an adjoining classroom. She heard screams, and the sound of shots in that classroom. After the shots stopped, though, she says the shooter started playing loud music -- sad music, she said.
The girl and a friend managed to get her dead teacher's phone and call 911 for help. She said she told a dispatcher, "Please come ... we're in trouble."
Miah said she was scared the gunman would return to her classroom to kill her and a few other surviving friends. So, she dipped her hands in the blood of a classmate -- who lay next to her, already dead -- and then smeared the blood all over herself to play dead....

..said afterward, she overheard talk of police waiting outside the school. As she recounted this part of the story to CNN, she started crying, saying she just didn't understand why they didn't come inside and rescue them.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

[ElNono]

You said the buildings didn't look like civilians buildings. Stay in one lane or the other.

Except that's not what I said at all. This is what I said, actual quotes:


Nobody considers a military base a civilian building either...


Because we're discussing sending civilian children there.

Talk about putting words into somebody else's mouth.


If you think someone might come kill you in your home, do you beef up your own security or hope a bill passes to remove guns before that happens?

I don't lose sleep thinking someone might come kill me in my home. But I'm not a children and my home isn't a school.

[ElNono]

If you could go back in time and put bullet proof vests on those kids that day, would you?

No, if I could go back in time, I would tell the parents not to send those children to school that day. Any other silly stuff?

[Nathan89]

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Canada is a blueprint country for American Dems. They are doing exactly what Dems plan to do in the US.

[DMC]

Except that's not what I said at all. This is what I said, actual quotes:





Talk about putting words into somebody else's mouth.

First it's a prison, then when I said no one considers a military base to be a prison you countered "they don't consider it a civilian building either"

Again, one lane or the other, is it a prison or not?



I don't lose sleep thinking someone might come kill me in my home. But I'm not a children and my home isn't a school.
You ignored the caveat "if you think...."

You're dodging these questions instead of answering them.

If you think someone might come into your child's school and kill them... legislation or security?

Again, you're being a politician on this, not answering anything straight forward.

[DMC]

1531385100394446849

Canada is a blueprint country for American Dems. They are doing exactly what Dems plan to do in the US.

Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the Canadian Constitution does not contain any protection for gun owners. Unlike the United States, where firearms are primarily regulated by the state, in Canada firearms are federally regulated. -some Google result

Not going to happen in the US.

[Nathan89]

Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the Canadian Constitution does not contain any protection for gun owners. Unlike the United States, where firearms are primarily regulated by the state, in Canada firearms are federally regulated. -some Google result

Not going to happen in the US.

Obviously it's more difficult for the authoritarians in the US to do this. It's still their long-term plan.

[ChumpDumper]

1531385100394446849

Canada is a blueprint country for American Dems. They are doing exactly what Dems plan to do in the US.

What a dystopian hellhole Canada is!

[Nathan89]

What a dystopian hellhole Canada is!
Agreed.

[ChumpDumper]

Agreed.

How much time have you spent in Canada?

How many guns do you have at work?

[Blake]

Except that's not what I said at all. This is what I said, actual quotes:





Talk about putting words into somebody else's mouth.



I don't lose sleep thinking someone might come kill me in my home. But I'm not a children and my home isn't a school.

DMC reading comprehension failures again? No way

[Nathan89]

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Dictator Trudeau sounds exactly like American Democrats. Their logic behind gun control will never stop. They will continue to push to get rid of all guns.

[Nathan89]

Todays common sense gun control was yesterday's slippery slope. They'll lie every step of the way.

[ChumpDumper]

1531436505087868928

Dictator Trudeau sounds exactly like American Democrats. Their logic behind gun control will never stop. They will continue to push to get rid of all guns.


Todays common sense gun control was yesterday's slippery slope. They'll lie every step of the way.

How much time have you spent in Canada?

How many guns do you have at work?

[pgardn]

Todays common sense gun control was yesterday's slippery slope that always rises. They'll lie every step of the way.

Its an uphill battle. I know what you mean.
Im still waiting for Howitzers and grenades to be legal for self defense the way Texas is run.

[DMC]

Todays common sense gun control was yesterday's slippery slope. They'll lie every step of the way.

Military "style" :lol

[DMC]

Its an uphill battle. I know what you mean.
Im still waiting for Howitzers and grenades to be legal for self defense the way Texas is run.

IH35 goes North.

[pgardn]

IH35 goes North.

It also goes South.
I take 37 south to the coast for most of the trip.

[ElNono]

First it's a prison, then when I said no one considers a military base to be a prison you countered "they don't consider it a civilian building either"

Again, one lane or the other, is it a prison or not?

No, I said, in snarky tone, let's send them to federal prison. Then you said and I quote: "No one considers a military base to be a federal prison yet it has the same provisions I listed".

When I said we don't populate military bases with civilians, you countered with military bases that were transferred to civilians as some sort of comeback (that no longer have the provisions you listed, which I pointed out, and makes it moot), followed by you making up a claim about what bases look like, something I have no clue where you got it from.

There aren't two lanes here, this has never been about looks, this is about where you send your kids to school. You might be fine with sending them to full blown military bases, but I'm pretty certain you're in a minority, we don't have enough bases for that, and frankly, it's not a solution to the underlying problem (which is the shooters).


You ignored the caveat "if you think...."

You're dodging these questions instead of answering them.

I'm answering the questions straight up, you just don't like the answers, mostly because the question has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I don't live fearing for my life, and I don't own any guns (though I grew up around them). If life ends tomorrow, then I had a good life. It's really something I don't give a lot of thought to, because I know it's inevitable, and rather spend my time on something else.

I might/might not be representative of the population at large, I don't know, and it doesn't really matter, as we're discussing children in school, which has nothing to do with me or my home.


If you think someone might come into your child's school and kill them... legislation or security?

Again, you're being a politician on this, not answering anything straight forward.

I don't have children. But if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't want to take him to a military base for school. If those are the options, I'll take legislation 10 out of 10 times. But again, that's just me.

[DMC]

No, I said, in snarky tone, let's send them to federal prison. Then you said and I quote: "No one considers a military base to be a federal prison yet it has the same provisions I listed".

When I said we don't populate military bases with civilians, you countered with military bases that were transferred to civilians as some sort of comeback (that no longer have the provisions you listed, which I pointed out, and makes it moot), followed by you making up a claim about what bases look like, something I have no clue where you got it from.

There aren't two lanes here, this has never been about looks, this is about where you send your kids to school. You might be fine with sending them to full blown military bases, but I'm pretty certain you're in a minority, we don't have enough bases for that, and frankly, it's not a solution to the underlying problem (which is the shooters).



I'm answering the questions straight up, you just don't like the answers, mostly because the question has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I don't live fearing for my life, and I don't own any guns (though I grew up around them). If life ends tomorrow, then I had a good life. It's really something I don't give a lot of thought to, because I know it's inevitable, and rather spend my time on something else.

I might/might not be representative of the population at large, I don't know, and it doesn't really matter, as we're discussing children in school, which has nothing to do with me or my home.



I don't have children. But if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't want to take him to a military base for school. If those are the options, I'll take legislation 10 out of 10 times. But again, that's just me.

You're being snarky again. I didn't suggest you take your kids to a military base, however currently there are 161 public schools that operate on military installations across the United States.

You seem offended by any suggestion other than gun control. Just say so upfront and save us both the trouble, or simply ignore talk outside that realm.

[Splits]

Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the Canadian Constitution does not contain any protection for gun owners. Unlike the United States, where firearms are primarily regulated by the state, in Canada firearms are federally regulated. -some Google result

Not going to happen in the US.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya_k4P-iEo

[Splits]

Military "style" :lol


:lol semantics

Now go on about how a "machine gun" is only an automatic weapon

https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=102574603&width=700&height=863&ts=1607535806

[TSA]

:lol semantics

Now go on about how a "machine gun" is only an automatic weapon

https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=102574603&width=700&height=863&ts=1607535806


"Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed,
well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in
that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was
in an effective shape to fight."
In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but rather
that the militia was prepared to do its duty.

https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf

[Blake]

"Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed,
well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in
that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was
in an effective shape to fight."
In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but rather
that the militia was prepared to do its duty.

https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf

So you're part of a militia ready to do your duty?

[Winehole23]

all schools

half-hearted conservatives won't protect family values, y'all know what to do, lone wolves!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUFkbj3WIAI9BNT?format=jpg&name=large

[spurraider21]

tbh unless you can build a functioning semi automatic rifle out of nothing but scrap metal you probably arent qualified to opine on gun control policy

[SnakeBoy]

tbh unless you can build a functioning semi automatic rifle out of nothing but scrap metal you probably arent qualified to opine on gun control policy

I disagree. As long as you know that a 22lr sticks in the lung and a 9mm blows the lung totally out of the body then you are totally qualified on gun control policy.

[Winehole23]

so much for blaming it on a teacher

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[boutons_deux]

My kid has a face vest. Why doesn't yours?

seems there will be many closed coffins

[boutons_deux]

some NRA asshole, up to his eyeballs in fantasy, claims hammers kill more people than guns

https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used.jpg

[ElNono]

You're being snarky again. I didn't suggest you take your kids to a military base, however currently there are 161 public schools that operate on military installations across the United States.

Of course you did. If we're bringing military-base security into schools, then we're effectively turning schools into military-bases. That's just not an integral solution to this problem, IMO.


You seem offended by any suggestion other than gun control. Just say so upfront and save us both the trouble, or simply ignore talk outside that realm.

It's the other way around. I have no problem with comprehensive proposals that include increased security (but don't turn schools into bootcamps), just as long as viable gun control is part of that discussion.

But if we're going to leave any kind of gun control out, then it's not comprehensive, and it's just another bandaid to kick the can forward until the next incident.

[ChumpDumper]

But DMC still needs his AR15 to kill the government that killed the Uvlade shooter.

[Medvedenko]

Look I'm not a huge fan of Trudeau, but common sense is common sense. At one point in my profession I had to carry a handgun and be trained to use it. Now, in order for me to attain the ability to carry, there's a ton of rules and regulation. Luckily for work they took care of that aspect. Now as a civilian, it was already very difficult to own a handgun, not impossible mind you. Still, I welcome these new rules. Get a shotgun if you need to protect your home.

[Brazil]

Of course you did. If we're bringing military-base security into schools, then we're effectively turning schools into military-bases. That's just not an integral solution to this problem, IMO.



It's the other way around. I have no problem with comprehensive proposals that include increased security (but don't turn schools into bootcamps), just as long as viable gun control is part of that discussion.

But if we're going to leave any kind of gun control out, then it's not comprehensive, and it's just another bandaid to kick the can forward until the next incident.

I admire your patience...

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285342604_420649946833252_734438392239575547_n.jpg ?stp=dst-jpg_p960x960&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=4nBJS_9ao0MAX-rxvcL&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT8CIBhAm5r3hBLK0-Y6ZY5xImw7uLpylLL_H6_g6ZmrdQ&oe=629B9E54

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285129077_3182938002034074_1518852374851605275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=kECC4jRrklMAX_2h29K&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_a5fTyug8v-IhsI6ABEzdSH35ll8kb2skyukgS2Ho-7A&oe=629B3ABF

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285333172_420711783493735_1497621623465198993_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=RptgPSmEgoAAX81dFtu&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT-N9GsOB0FPxB_6F-q_Oy6t_-kcEbdAkVZvZJ0P6n7qpQ&oe=629BC3A7

[Blake]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285129077_3182938002034074_1518852374851605275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=kECC4jRrklMAX_2h29K&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_a5fTyug8v-IhsI6ABEzdSH35ll8kb2skyukgS2Ho-7A&oe=629B3ABF

Guns and prayers

[DMC]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285129077_3182938002034074_1518852374851605275_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=kECC4jRrklMAX_2h29K&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_a5fTyug8v-IhsI6ABEzdSH35ll8kb2skyukgS2Ho-7A&oe=629B3ABF

Likewise, why are the ones calling for defunding the police the ones who say they don't need guns because the police will protect them?

[DMC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya_k4P-iEo

Boomers good now

[DMC]

tbh unless you can build a functioning semi automatic rifle out of nothing but scrap metal you probably arent qualified to opine on gun control policy

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: strawman
1.
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

[ChumpDumper]

Likewise, why are the ones calling for defunding the police the ones who say they don't need guns because the police will protect them?Defunding the police does not eliminate the police.

It's a common mistake very stupid people make.

Or it's a common straw man very dishonest people make when they lose.

[DMC]

:lol semantics

Now go on about how a "machine gun" is only an automatic weapon

https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=102574603&width=700&height=863&ts=1607535806

Machine guns are heavily regulated and cannot be manufactured for sale to the general public. Talk about the automatic revolvers.

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like an infringement tbh.

[DMC]

Shaky fingers still wants a back and forth :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC still has to lie about me from deep inside his safe space bunker.

THAT'S shook.

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/WwJJAfY.gif

[Blake]

Likewise, why are the ones calling for defunding the police the ones who say they don't need guns because the police will protect them?


straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: strawman
1.
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

[Blake]

:lol DMC still has to lie about me from deep inside his safe space bunker.

THAT'S shook.

But is it bullet proof

[Blake]

Machine guns are heavily regulated and cannot be manufactured for sale to the general public. Talk about the automatic revolvers.

Cool, let's heavily regulate automatic revolvers

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC still has to lie about me from deep inside his safe space bunker.

THAT'S shook.


https://i.imgur.com/WwJJAfY.gif

:lol thanks for admitting it, DMC.

[DMC]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/DEFUND-THE-POLICE-USA-PROTESTS-1295180.jpg

:lol

[DMC]

Cool, let's heavily regulate automatic revolvers

Go ahead, I'll sign off on it.

[Winehole23]

Uvalde PD and Uvalde ISD Police circle the wagons.

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[Blake]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/DEFUND-THE-POLICE-USA-PROTESTS-1295180.jpg

:lol

I don't see a picket sign saying they don't need guns because the police will protect them

[daboom1]

I don’t need the administration that armed the Taliban lecturing me on gun safety.

[ChumpDumper]

I don’t need the administration that armed the Taliban lecturing me on gun safety.

Why are you bitching about Reagan?

[Blake]

Uvalde PD and Uvalde ISD Police circle the wagons.

1531742274920534019

City of Uvalde bout to get sued

[Dick Jones]

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: strawman
1.
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
that’s rich (coming from him/you etc)British English

spoken used to say that what someone has said is unreasonable (https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/unreasonable) and that they are criticizing (https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/criticize) you for doing something that they do themselves

”He accused me of being dishonest, which was a bit rich coming from him.”

[DMC]

Uvalde PD and Uvalde ISD Police circle the wagons.

1531742274920534019

The DOJ: Hold my beer

[spurraider21]

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: strawman
1.
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
wasn't a strawman. i wasnt claiming that it was actually somebody's position and trying to defeat it. it was hyperbole for comedic effect.

[DMC]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RFY6x34qkOg/mqdefault.jpg

[DMC]

wasn't a strawman. i wasnt claiming that it was actually somebody's position and trying to defeat it. it was hyperbole for comedic effect.

You claimed it was my position and wanted me to argue against it. I thwarted it. You lost. Sorry this is happening to you.

[Winehole23]

:cry

[Nathan89]

1531742922269507585

Authoritarian Beto wants to take away your guns.

I was assured nobody was trying to do this. It's amazing how wrong leftists are and when you say something about the future "muh slippery slope".

[boutons_deux]

City of Uvalde bout to get sued

If it goes to SCOTUS, in 2005, SCOTUS already ruled that citizens are not entitled to protection by law enforcement.

Legally, the 19 "hallway monitors" were not obligated to stop the shooter.

[Winehole23]

1531742922269507585

Authoritarian Beto wants to take away your guns.

I was assured nobody was trying to do this. It's amazing how wrong leftists are and when you say something about the future "muh slippery slope".:tu

[DMC]

No one talks to me in my threads so I'll just interject in a more active thread

[DMC]

1531742922269507585

Authoritarian Beto wants to take away your guns.

I was assured nobody was trying to do this. It's amazing how wrong leftists are and when you say something about the future "muh slippery slope".

I want to keep my guns but I agree with him from a strategic standpoint. Anyone serious about curbing gun crime has to curb gun ownership. It won't curb crime, but it will curb gun related crime. All these placebo suggestions like Biden wanting to ban 9mm ammo production :lol after an event where 5.56 was used is really really fucking worthless. I don't have to hope they succeed but I hope they try. It's encouraging to see American politicians courageous enough with career sacrifice to do what they feel needs to be done. This is really why many Americans voted for Trump in 2016, to get done what they wanted to get done. If they just wanted someone to be a name on a congressional voting record, that can be anyone more concerned about their career in politics than in doing what needs to be done.

[Nathan89]

First they claim slippery slope.
Then they deny something is happening.
And then they openly support the thing that is happening.

[DMC]

First they claim slippery slope.
Then they deny something is happening.
And then they openly support the thing that is happening.

First its "oops wrong hole" then it's "just let me put the tip in" then it's "just let me get the head in" and next thing you know you're meeting Zed.

[ChumpDumper]

1531742922269507585

Authoritarian Beto wants to take away your guns.

I was assured nobody was trying to do this. It's amazing how wrong leftists are and when you say something about the future "muh slippery slope".

You don't have any guns to take.

[Winehole23]

First they claim slippery slope.
Then they deny something is happening.
And then they openly support the thing that is happening.I've been consistent about grabbing assault rifles the whole way. Common sense regulation of everything else would save a lot of lives, I'm for that too. The danger to public health posed by firearms needs to be curbed.

[ElNono]

1531742922269507585

Authoritarian Beto wants to take away your guns.

I was assured nobody was trying to do this. It's amazing how wrong leftists are and when you say something about the future "muh slippery slope".

Beto wants a lot of things, but he won't be able to get all of them. Props to him for addressing this head on though, instead of curling in fetal position until the next shootout. :tu

[Trainwreck2100]

Boomers good now

:lol thinking anyone in that video is a boomer,


Not knowing what a boomer is

[ElNono]

First they claim slippery slope.
Then they deny something is happening.
And then they openly support the thing that is happening.


First its "oops wrong hole" then it's "just let me put the tip in" then it's "just let me get the head in" and next thing you know you're meeting Zed.

None of this can survive if it's illegal. If you don't trust our justice system, then that's a different problem that has nothing to do with the left or right...

[spurraider21]

You claimed it was my position and wanted me to argue against it. I thwarted it. You lost. Sorry this is happening to you.
:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer cooperating with the Texas Department of Public Safety's investigation into the massacre at Robb Elementary School and the state's review of the law enforcement response, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News.

A spokesman for Texas DPS, which is running the state's investigations, declined to comment.
-----------------------------
According to sources, the decision to stop cooperating occurred soon after the director of DPS, Col. Steven McCraw, held a news conference Friday during which he said the delayed police entry into the classroom was "the wrong decision" and contrary to protocol.

[Trill Clinton]

Uvalde PD and Uvalde ISD Police circle the wagons.

1531742274920534019

Uh oh

[Trill Clinton]

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[Blake]

If it goes to SCOTUS, in 2005, SCOTUS already ruled that citizens are not entitled to protection by law enforcement.

Legally, the 19 "hallway monitors" were not obligated to stop the shooter.

Ah yeah, that's right.

[Dick Jones]

First they claim slippery slope.
Then they deny something is happening.
And then they openly support the thing that is happening.
Kinda like your side and Jan 6

[Winehole23]

Uh ohDPS won't cover their asses. There's a nonzero chance Uvalde PD ends up disbanded.

[Blake]

1531767558201909249

Yeah I mean how could they not cooperate

[Winehole23]

Yeah I mean how could they not cooperateTrying to limit legal liability and PR damage might be two rationales. If indeed they're not cooperating. If it's just Arredondo stonewalling that makes sense too.

[Winehole23]

Police don't protect, all they know know how to do is punish.

966902961984061440

[Winehole23]

Not going to end well for Uvalde PD with CLEAT calling them liars.

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[Winehole23]

Amerie Jo Garza

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[Trill Clinton]

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:(

[Blake]

1531625547104673794

:(

Cool and eery at the same time

[SnakeBoy]

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[Winehole23]

Out of respect for the families, Uvalde City Council cancelled its public meeting and swore Arredondo in secretly.

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[Winehole23]

Yeah I mean how could they not cooperatemaybe they shot a kid or a teacher

[Brazil]

:cry don't take away my guns :cry I have a small dick I need my guns to feel better :cry

:lmao

[Brazil]

so Murica big plan to stop mass shooting is doing nothing ?

[TimDunkem]

so Murica big plan to stop mass shooting is doing nothing ?
Relaaax. We're thinking about, and praying for the victims!

[Winehole23]

"Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed,
well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in
that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was
in an effective shape to fight."
In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but rather
that the militia was prepared to do its duty.

https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf...to put down slave revolts

[ducks]

If guns are the problem, explain why states like Delaware have the LOWEST gun ownership rate in the nation at 5.2%, and one of the HIGHEST gun murder rates at 4.2 per 100,000 residents?

Then explain why states like Idaho have the HIGHEST gun ownership rates in the nation at 56.9%, and one of the LOWEST gun murder rates in the nation at 0.8 per 100,000 residents?

[TimDunkem]

If guns are the problem, explain why states like Delaware have the LOWEST gun ownership rate in the nation at 5.2%, and one of the HIGHEST gun murder rates at 4.2 per 100,000 residents?

Then explain why states like Idaho have the HIGHEST gun ownership rates in the nation at 56.9%, and one of the LOWEST gun murder rates in the nation at 0.8 per 100,000 residents?
Now do Texas, where people actually live, faggot.

[ducks]

I was going to turn all of my guns over to the democrats; but I did a background check and none of them are mentally stable.

[DMC]

:lol thinking anyone in that video is a boomer,


Not knowing what a boomer is

The sentiment is the same. Old people. It's not like you give a shit whether someone is gen x or silent generation, you call anyone older that 40 a boomer.

[DMC]

None of this can survive if it's illegal. If you don't trust our justice system, then that's a different problem that has nothing to do with the left or right...

Says the group wanting to pack the court and panicking over Roe V Wade

[ducks]

Now do Texas, where people actually live, faggot.

How do YOU suggest that we defend ourselves? Slingshots?

[DMC]

:lmao

Dead children are hilarious

[ducks]

Biden and Liberals in general have no concept of or knowledge of history, a time before they existed.

[ducks]

Dead children are hilarious

Yeah woman now are proud and boasting they had a abortion

[ducks]

The second amendment as well as all the others are “ absolute”. They were written to say what they mean and mean what they say. This President nor any other has the right or authority to interpret the constitution the way they see fit too advance their agenda.
You Will Not Disarm our country

[ducks]

Biden is not worthy of trust , dishonest and a congenital liar like most on the left

[Splits]

so Murica big plan to stop mass shooting is doing nothing ?

No Frenchie, we're going to "harden" our schools to make them like airports and military bases. Duh. We're definitely still going to allow 18 year olds to buy weapons of war and unlimited ammo because of muh freedumb.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Thread]

Biden and Liberals in general have no concept of or knowledge of history, a time before they existed.

ducks

[Thread]

Biden is not worthy of trust , dishonest and a congenital liar like most on the left

ducks

[Thread]

The second amendment as well as all the others are “ absolute”. They were written to say what they mean and mean what they say. This President nor any other has the right or authority to interpret the constitution the way they see fit too advance their agenda.
You Will Not Disarm our country

ducks

[Blake]

Biden is not worthy of trust , dishonest and a congenital liar like most on the left

Like Trump?

[Blake]

Dead children are hilarious

He's laughing at you. Your comprehension skills are complete shit.

[Thread]

CNN's Proxupez caught up to Chief Arredondo this morning in Texas. Shimone couldn't get him to answer a question, but he did finally get this (and a pat on the shoulder) out of the Chief...

"You have a nice day now."

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/220601093844-pete-arredondo-uvalde-cisd-police-chief-shimon-0601-large-tease.jpg

CNN:
a. fucked around.
b. found out.
c. "You have a nice day now."

[Winehole23]

Eh, nm

[TimDunkem]

Have a nice day is a sick burn now? Thread is straight-up retarded these days.

[Thread]

Have a nice day is a sick burn now? Thread is straight-up retarded these days.

...yeah, when he's trying to nail that big Mexican to the tree of woe, yes, a pat on the back and a "nice day" is slap in the kisser to the little fella from CNN. Me? Here's me:::"Go back to New York, find your mother, squirt, and fuck her some more. Chop/chop."

[DMC]

Have a nice day is a sick burn now? Thread is straight-up retarded these days.

He knows it's all score boarding. He just doesn't pretend it's not.

[Blake]

Yeah woman now are proud and boasting they had a abortion

I've never heard or seen a woman boast about an abortion.

You're spending to much time shooting prairie dogs

[DMC]

He's laughing at you. Your comprehension skills are complete shit.

This is you failing at understanding satire.

[DMC]

I've never heard or seen a woman boast about an abortion.

You're spending to much time shooting prairie dogs

You probably don't see too many women these days.

[Winehole23]

telegraphing defeat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FULw1ReWQAEA5x5?format=jpg&name=small

[benefactor]

I see ducks is hitting up comments sections again

[DMC]

I see ducks is hitting up comments sections again

:lol

[DMC]

telegraphing defeat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FULw1ReWQAEA5x5?format=jpg&name=small

Seriously?!?!?! Shocker!

[Thread]

telegraphing defeat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FULw1ReWQAEA5x5?format=jpg&name=small

Or, playing possum...

- "Careful."

- "John Coffey" - "The Green Mile"

[ElNono]

Says the group wanting to pack the court and panicking over Roe V Wade

- Haven't packed the court, nothing preventing the GOP to do their own packing
- SCOTUS has made mistakes before (separate but equal, etc) and eventually recanted
- A mostly balanced SCOTUS decided Heller

[ElNono]

telegraphing defeat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FULw1ReWQAEA5x5?format=jpg&name=small

"Nothing can be done"

[DMC]

- Haven't packed the court, nothing preventing the GOP to do their own packing
- SCOTUS has made mistakes before (separate but equal, etc) and eventually recanted
- A mostly balanced SCOTUS decided Heller

Nothing here debunks anything I said.

[Thread]

Nothing here debunks anything I said.


D M C

[daboom1]

Nothing here debunks anything I said.

You're talking to a beep boop.

[Trainwreck2100]

The sentiment is the same. Old people. It's not like you give a shit whether someone is gen x or silent generation, you call anyone older that 40 a boomer.

the sentiment isnt the same silent generation werent boomers, gen x ain't boomers either. ok boomer doesnt mean "ok old person"

[Winehole23]

"Nothing can be done""vote for us so we can do something next time!"

[Blake]

This is you failing at understanding satire.

Your satire skills blow too

[DMC]

Your satire skills blow too

Cry more

[DMC]

the sentiment isnt the same silent generation werent boomers, gen x ain't boomers either. ok boomer doesnt mean "ok old person"

I've been called Boomer a dozen times here, yet I am gen x. It doesn't matter, stop lying.

[Blake]

You probably don't see too many women these days.

Lol what kind of burn is this?

How many a day do you see, player?

[Blake]

Cry more

Can't under state how badly your comprehension skills blow.

[Winehole23]

DMC's conversion to full-time shitposting amuses

[Blake]

DMC's conversion to full-time shitposting amuses

But you're the one on his "do not discuss topic with" list

[DMC]

Lol what kind of burn is this?

How many a day do you see, player?

I still have my wife.

[DMC]

DMC's conversion to full-time shitposting amuses

You try to be a contributor but no one is buying. Maybe twitter harder, not sure how to help you but pullin' for ya.

[DMC]

Can't under state how badly your comprehension skills blow.

Do you mean overstate?

:lol cannot even converse properly.

[Winehole23]

But you're the one on his "do not discuss topic with" listIt's OK, DMC doesn't need me to beclown himself in this forum.

[Trainwreck2100]

I've been called Boomer a dozen times here, yet I am gen x. It doesn't matter, stop lying.


if thats true, youre probably borderline obviously

[Ef-man]

I still have my wife.

My thoughts and prayer to your wife.

[Blake]

I still have my wife.

So you confirm you don't see many women these days. Good burn. Use again.

[Blake]

Do you mean overstate?

:lol cannot even converse properly.

Yes overstated. How did you catch that but suck so bad at other posts.

[Winehole23]

lol DMC enforcing diction and decorum

lol withholding discussion, seems more like a defensive measure against losing his cool and showing his whole ass, which he seldom fails to do with me in or out of the conversation.

[MultiTroll]

My thoughts and prayer to your wife.
:lol
Should we direct quote him again his post proclaiming his whale fantasy of the 66 year old?

[Brazil]

Relaaax. We're thinking about, and praying for the victims!


No Frenchie, we're going to "harden" our schools to make them like airports and military bases. Duh. We're definitely still going to allow 18 year olds to buy weapons of war and unlimited ammo because of muh freedumb.

:lol

don't forget the let's arm the teachers


Murica the country where you are not responsible enough to get a beer in a bar at 21 but mature enough to buy a gun at 18..

l

[ElNono]

Nothing here debunks anything I said.

There was nothing to debunk... do you trust our justice system?

[ElNono]

beep boop.

[Thread]

:lol

don't forget the let's arm the teachers


Murica the country where you are not responsible enough to get a beer in a bar at 21 but mature enough to buy a gun at 18..

l

...and kill Vietnamese and Afghan's with a free assault rifle at 18. Even compelled/drafted in Vietnam.

Oh, the tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

[Brazil]

I still have my wife.

poor woman... hopefully you just sneak your dick in her vagina and not your finger. Fingering her is the equivalent of her having a episiotomy

[Brazil]

Cul still trying to engage a conversation with me :lmao

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[DMC]

Yes overstated. How did you catch that but suck so bad at other posts.
Basically illustrates that you aren't qualified to judge. Get off your knees and wipe away the tears, there's a brighter tomorrow.

[DMC]

poor woman... hopefully you just sneak your dick in her vagina and not your finger. Fingering her is the equivalent of her having a episiotomy

You recovered ok it seems, maybe still a bit butt hurt but time heals old wounds.

[Winehole23]

No qualifications required to post on an open board, tbh.

lol gatekeeper DMC

[Winehole23]

This is their real job, harassing citizens doing nothing wrong.

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[Brazil]

You recovered ok it seems, maybe still a bit butt hurt but time heals old wounds.

I recovered from what ? ... cannot wait to read your comeback.

Who needs to heal wounds is your wife after putting your fat finger into her vagina.. tbh... I guess you never try the ass she would be dead by now.

[Brazil]

wait a second... you mean you put your finger into my ass.. ? ohhh :lmao

[Brazil]

why I'm not surprised you are fantasizing about fingering men :lmao

[DMC]

why I'm not surprised you are fantasizing about fingering men :lmao
:lol

[Brazil]

:lol

that's your comeback ? I'm a woman :lmao

[Winehole23]

Arredondo will speak to the public when the crying stops, not a second before.




Uvalde school district police chief declines to answer CNN questions in first public comments in a week.

Pedro "Pete" Arredondo, the embattled Uvalde school police chief who led the flawed law enforcement response to last week's school shooting and has remained out of the public eye since, spoke exclusively to CNN on Wednesday and declined to answer substantive questions about the massacre.

According to the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS), Arredondo has not responded to a request for a follow-up interview with the Texas Rangers, who are investigating the shooting at Robb Elementary.

Yet outside his home Wednesday, Arredondo told CNN's Aaron Cooper, "I am in contact with DPS everyday."

And outside his office minutes later, he told CNN's Shimon Prokupecz that he's not going to release any further information while funerals are ongoing.

"We're going to be respectful to the family," he said. "We're going to do that eventually. Whenever this is done and the families quit grieving, then we'll do that obviously."https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/01/us/uvalde-shooting-police-chief-pete-arredondo/index.html

[Winehole23]

that's your comeback? I'm a woman? :lmaoGender fluid homoerotic ideation. All he needs now is to call someone a faggot to square the circle.

[Blake]

Gender fluid homoerotic ideation. All he needs now is to call someone a faggot to square the circle.


And then tell them to bend over

[DMC]

I'm a woman :lmao

:lol

[DMC]

Gender fluid homoerotic ideation. All he needs now is to call someone a faggot to square the circle.


Homophobic wokester :lol

[DMC]

And then tell them to bend over

Blake in the #Metoo movement

[Blake]

DMC wants to be homosexual rapist really badly

[DMC]

DMC wants to be homosexual rapist really badly

You've talked more about having a finger up your ass than you did about the event itself. Telling.

[Blake]

You've talked more about having a finger up your ass than you did about the event itself. Telling.

:lol wut?

[Ef-man]

You've talked more about having a finger up your ass than you did about the event itself. Telling.


:lol wut?

Chuncko and his legacy of homoerotic ideations.

Am sure Giuseppe is waiting to read the full novel.

[DMC]

Chuncko and his legacy of homoerotic ideations.

Am sure Giuseppe is waiting to read the full novel.

I'll have you as the drip pan. Stay tuned.

[Ef-man]

I'll have you as the drip pan. Stay tuned.

I must have hit that nerve again, amirite Chuncko? :lol

[DMC]

I must have hit that nerve again, amirite Chuncko? :lol

He says looking back over his shoulder.

[Winehole23]

What an odd sounding tale. The mayor was across the street but heard no shots, and a would-be negotiator had the shooter's cellphone number handy, but the shooter never picked up, and the mayor just sat there waiting.

Being inside a building, sequestered from police maybe gives the mayor a smidgen more credibility to claim he didn't know it wasn't a hostage situation.

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[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1532255719927402497?t

[DMC]

Unfortunately self defense isn't an issue that gets resolved with a vote.

[Winehole23]

80% of police interactions with the public are discretionary stops with minimal effect on public safety.

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[Winehole23]

According to the most recent data published by the FBI (https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/01/12/as-murders-spiked-police-solved-about-half-in-2020), the rates at which police forces are solving crimes have plunged to historic lows. In the case of murders and violent crime, clearance rates have dipped to just 50 percent, a startling decline from the 1980s, when police cleared 70 percent of all homicides.

It’s not just murder. Manslaughter is down to 69 percent clearance from 90 percent forty years ago. Clearances in assault and rape cases have dropped to 47 percent and 30 percent, respectively. Nonviolent property crimes like burglary (which involves illegally entering a property), theft (which involves taking property from another person), and motor vehicle theft are getting solved at a microscopic 14 percent, 15 percent, and 12 percent, respectively. According to “Crime and the Mythology of Police (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3797945),” a recent article published in the Washington University Law Review by University of Utah law professor Shima Baradaran Baughman, “on a good year, police solve less than a quarter of reported cases.”
https://prospect.org/justice/why-are-police-so-bad-at-their-jobs/