Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[ChumpDumper]

So you would say she's the victim, then say she's not the victim. Lol.

Like I said, it's confusing.

[Mr. Body]

Like I said, it's confusing.

It's typical incel, MRA, MGTOW stuff -- reverse victim and offender. Pretty standard, unimaginative misogyny.

[Mugen]

:lol

Called him being on an NBA roster by the start of this season when it originally happened. Pretty funny that it's with the Clippers tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

It's typical incel, MRA, MGTOW stuff -- reverse victim and offender. Pretty standard, unimaginative misogyny.

I give B2B the benefit of the doubt; maybe he's just looking at it as something other that a straightforward workplace harassment case.

[Mr. Body]

:lol

Called him being on an NBA roster by the start of this season when it originally happened. Pretty funny that it's with the Clippers tbh.

Fortunately the Clippers don't have a significant figure in its history who was known for abusing women.

[exstatic]

She was not there to treat his sexual harassment.

Someone who gets it.

She was a sports psychologist who was there to improve player performance. He flashed her, she reported it to the team multiple times, they ignored it until the Vegas thing, and then the Minneapolis thing, and by that time she had sued them.

How could she be there to treat his issues when the team denied that he had any?

[KobesAchilles]

The guy sucked anyways. Horrible pick. Thank goodness we got Wemby

[ismael-robert]

If he develops into something gonna be pissed he's helping kawhi

[jjspur]

Primo is going to the clippers on a 2 way deal. Lets see how he does there or does he just bomb out of the league.

[heyheymymy]

fucking LAC of course

Clippers are becoming Team Scumbag

Nephew, Verbal Agreement and now Peepshow

[thiste]

Let it be known that the Spurs waive people like that. The Clippers hire them.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

So flashing the junk multiple times is a 4 game suspension. Good to know.

[BacktoBasics]

It's typical incel, MRA, MGTOW stuff -- reverse victim and offender. Pretty standard, unimaginative misogyny.

I typically stand against victim blaming and have for years on this forum called out real incels like koriwhat etc. In this case it really doesn’t pass the sniff test. If there’s one thing about me is I don’t stand on one political spectrum and everyone else is an incel.

I call it like I see it. Her actions are contrary to every code of ethics. She’s not some secretary scared to lose her job. She’s a medical professional and abandoned her professional responsibilities.

She was treating him in a professional capacity and continued to return to a patient she was not equipped to treat. It was stated that she wasn’t there to treat his sexual harassment. Great. Let’s go with that. Refer the patient out and cease treatment. That is standard procedure in the medical world. If you’re a general practitioner and your patient has cancer you refer them to a specialist. You don’t keep treating him.

I have doubts that her account is the actual case here.

But even more so for her inability to refer him out and refuse further treatment. If that’s not her job then move the patient to the appropriate care. You don’t continue to perpetuate the harassment.

[BacktoBasics]

Then it’s “no big deal” and return to the place of employment that allegedly enabled the horrors of 9 sexual assaults. Yeah, okay. You must be incredibly traumatized to the point where going back to the people who created this environment like it’s some nice reunion and no hard feelings.

That’s not an incel perspective.

If it was that bad there is no way in hell you go back to the scene of the crime to the people who failed you in the first place.

You get extensive counseling and no way a real therapist is going to suggest that she return to the same workplace. Not one single therapist treating “trauma” is going to advocate for that.

So yeah. Doesn’t pass the sniff test one bit.

[koriwhat]

I typically stand against victim blaming and have for years on this forum called out real incels like koriwhat etc.

I'm no incel no matter how much you wish I was. Go fuck yourself you cry baby bitch! :tu

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:lol

Called him being on an NBA roster by the start of this season when it originally happened. Pretty funny that it's with the Clippers tbh.

Neph about to take the flasher under his wing and show Pop he's a real leader.

[timtonymanu]

:cry I knew he would sign somewhere. Why did we let him go?

Typical cuck fans getting anxious about scrub Primo. We have Wemby. Grow some balls.

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:cry I knew he would sign somewhere. Why did we let him go?

Typical cuck fans getting anxious about scrub Primo. We have Wemby. Grow some balls.

Perhaps I should have placed my post in blue text. Thought everyone here knows how I feel about neph and flash.

[Mr. Body]

Perhaps I should have placed my post in blue text. Thought everyone here knows how I feel about neph and flash.

I can imagine Prime exposing himself in front of a schoolbus of children and Neph not raising his voice to stop him.

[GAustex]

Scumbag would just chew on his tongue

[Spurs Homer]

Hahahahaha!

throwing a sex offender into lala land

primo about to meet golddiggers who are one second away from mentally snapping and cutting his junk off

[Dex]

Of course he is going to the Clippers. A team of scumbags adds to the clan.

Even Clipper fans are embarrassed by this...and that's saying A LOT given their tenure with Donald Sterling

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

:)

[John B]

It’s no surprised some team is going to pick him up. He’s just Spurs’ high pick just 2 yrs ago. Now let’s see what he could do. It’s gonna suck if Spurs’ scouts were right picking him that high just to play for another team.

[ismael-robert]

:cry I knew he would sign somewhere. Why did we let him go?

Typical cuck fans getting anxious about scrub Primo. We have Wemby. Grow some balls.

But do we have a pg

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I can imagine Prime exposing himself in front of a schoolbus of children and Neph not raising his voice to stop him.

Or doing that stupid fucking laugh.

[ChumpDumper]

Then it’s “no big deal” and return to the place of employment that allegedly enabled the horrors of 9 sexual assaults. Yeah, okay. You must be incredibly traumatized to the point where going back to the people who created this environment like it’s some nice reunion and no hard feelings.

That’s not an incel perspective.

If it was that bad there is no way in hell you go back to the scene of the crime to the people who failed you in the first place.

You get extensive counseling and no way a real therapist is going to suggest that she return to the same workplace. Not one single therapist treating “trauma” is going to advocate for that.

So yeah. Doesn’t pass the sniff test one bit.

You miss the big picture.

She did nothing wrong.

You are blaming the victim.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I typically stand against victim blaming .

Then proceeds to write an essay on Victim Blaming 101.

Well done for the complete lack of self awareness, impressive :tu

[Rocalcio]

Lol called it when he was cut. Knew he’d be on a team this coming season and wouldn’t have to wait a while as many speculated. NBA teams don’t care about him flashing his sausage to random women tbh. They just want buckets.

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At least we’ll see if he’s the bust everyone here thinks he is.

[Ocotillo]

When the Clippers come to SA, during the first mandatory time-out, the Coyote needs to come on court with a raincoat and walk over to the Clippers bench and flash them.

:lol

[Dex]

When the Clippers come to SA, during the first mandatory time-out, the Coyote needs to come on court with a raincoat and walk over to the Clippers bench and flash them.

:lol

He'll probably be stuck with their shitty GLeague team where he belongs.

[couchman]

I wonder if he ever got that growth spurt lol

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At least we’ll see if he’s the bust everyone here thinks he is.

He'll bust as a ball heavy guard. He'll excel as a 3 pt shooting slashing wing.

Spurs unfortunately were overly interested his ball handling development. I say unfortunately only because he could have been a contributor, not a star, on the court. But given what he was doing off the court, I'm glad they cut him.

[rascal]

Primo doesn't have the mental makeup of a winner.
He'll never overcome the pressure of being back in the league with everyone knowing what he did.

[BacktoBasics]

Then proceeds to write an essay on Victim Blaming 101.

Well done for the complete lack of self awareness, impressive :tu

I’m aware that she failed to terminate treatment with a patient. Which is an huge ethical failure and dereliction of duty. Essentially enabling her own assault. Then miraculously returned to the scene of the crime to once again serve the people who she accused of allowing such a travesty to take place. Because that’s what victims do? They go back after a settlement to serve their oppressors. Yeah okay.

Here are some major issues with her ability in a professional capacity.


Additionally, physicians must know and inform patients of their expertise and scope of practice. For instance, if a family physician recommends that you have surgery, they should refer you to a reputable surgeon.


As previously stated by other members. She wasn’t there to treat sexual harassment. Yet she provided treatment up to 9 more times.


Whenever doctors fail to maintain the agreed-upon relationship with a patient or they overstep their boundaries, this is known as dereliction. For instance, if a medical professional promises a clean, safe environment, they're required to uphold that promise.

She didn’t maintain a safe environment for her or him.

Being a victim doesn’t absolve her if medical malpractice.

[BacktoBasics]

Primo doesn't have the mental makeup of a winner.
He'll never overcome the pressure of being back in the league with everyone knowing what he did.

People who whip their dicks out thinking others want to see it. Don’t give a shit what people think. They have a warped perspective on consent and desire.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSAgYwNsJUs

[spursparker9]

lol can't wait for ESPN Malika to attack Primo

[BacktoBasics]

The league concluded that no sexual act took place. So basically he wasn’t wearing any underwear and his penis was visible. Didn’t touch it. Didn’t masturbate. Didn’t pull it out. Wasn’t erect. It was only “visible”.

Apparently Primo, despite receiving therapy, is maintaining that it was purely accidental.

Hence the 4 games.

Before the morality police get on their high horse. I’m not saying that I believe Primo. Just stating what I read.

[Dejounte]

The league concluded that no sexual act took place. So basically he wasn’t wearing any underwear and his penis was visible. Didn’t touch it. Didn’t masturbate. Didn’t pull it out. Wasn’t erect. It was only “visible”.

Apparently Primo, despite receiving therapy, is maintaining that it was purely accidental.

Hence the 4 games.

Before the morality police get on their high horse. I’m not saying that I believe Primo. Just stating what I read.

Yeah, let’s believe the guy being punished when he says it was accidental. Your takes on this are horse shit. The kind of workplace that you probably think would be okay would be a bizarre one where you favor these clearly manipulative assholes who act pure and innocent until they’re caught.

[Dejounte]

And if Primo was as innocent as you claim he was, he wouldn’t still be partaking in therapy to this day. You’re dumb as shit, at least on this topic dude.

[Mr. Body]

The league concluded that no sexual act took place. So basically he wasn’t wearing any underwear and his penis was visible. Didn’t touch it. Didn’t masturbate. Didn’t pull it out. Wasn’t erect. It was only “visible”.

Apparently Primo, despite receiving therapy, is maintaining that it was purely accidental.

Hence the 4 games.

Before the morality police get on their high horse. I’m not saying that I believe Primo. Just stating what I read.

You think about this guy's cock a lot.

[Dejounte]

My take on this is that the Spurs weren’t quick to drop Primo ONLY because of the act, but because of the nice-guy front that he put on— enough to convince them that he could be featured in their promos. They were fooled, plain and simple. Betrayal like that…there’s no going back. There’s been plenty of admission by Primo, and anyone still believing dumbass conspiracies about this are willingly being misled.

[koriwhat]

The league concluded that no sexual act took place. So basically he wasn’t wearing any underwear and his penis was visible. Didn’t touch it. Didn’t masturbate. Didn’t pull it out. Wasn’t erect. It was only “visible”.

Apparently Primo, despite receiving therapy, is maintaining that it was purely accidental.

Hence the 4 games.

Before the morality police get on their high horse. I’m not saying that I believe Primo. Just stating what I read.

It's no wonder you're so delusional here and always unhinged. You've been a nut this whole time so no wonder you're giving Primo a pass.

Isn't this ironic or more so moronic, "I’m not saying that I believe Primo", considering how hard you've been batting for the dude in this very thread.

I thought you were of moral character with a spine on your mountain made of shit? :lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

can't wait for the "thank you Primo" video tribute

[MultiTroll]

At least we’ll see if he’s the bust everyone here thinks he is.
'But but but he's washed up at age 19 and should be banned.'

Could you imagine if all ST posters were held to complete account for whatever phuck ups they did in teens - 20-21?

This will be an interesting thread to visit if Primo succeeds.

[koriwhat]

'But but but he's washed up at age 19 and should be banned.'

Could you imagine if all ST posters were held to complete account for whatever phuck ups they did in teens - 20-21?

This will be an interesting thread to visit if Primo succeeds.

How about you as an adult drooling over minors? Or how about putting women down and sexualizing them when you pretend to be a crusader of theirs here on ST?

We should be able to hunt pedophiles down especially pedophiles like you bro. :tu

[spurraider21]

'But but but he's washed up at age 19 and should be banned.'

Could you imagine if all ST posters were held to complete account for whatever phuck ups they did in teens - 20-21?

This will be an interesting thread to visit if Primo succeeds.
he’s not washed. He just wasn’t a worthy prospect for his draft position and tbh it’s quite concerning that apprently the brass thought he was the future face of the franchise

[MultiTroll]

he’s not washed. He just wasn’t a worthy prospect for his draft position and tbh it’s quite concerning that apprently the brass thought he was the future face of the franchise
eh time will tell how good he is or isn't.

If indeed the Spurs were trying to make him the face of the franchise, how idiotic to force him to play out of position as a PG at age 19 surrounded by what mentors on the court?

[Dejounte]

An opinion on who is an asshole and who is not doesn’t change when/if they become successful. Who the fuck thinks that way? The world doesn’t revolve around basketball. Primo can redeem himself as with any other human being, but it won’t be through basketball.

[ismael-robert]

Exactly even if he doesn't show out this year he can still use a couple more years to develop

[BacktoBasics]

Yeah, let’s believe the guy being punished when he says it was accidental. Your takes on this are horse shit. The kind of workplace that you probably think would be okay would be a bizarre one where you favor these clearly manipulative assholes who act pure and innocent until they’re caught.
So even though I said I didn’t believe primo and was only recounting what I read about the leagues interpretation you were still too fucking stupid to understand and immediately assumed it was my personal opinion.

All I did was recount the stance of the league and how they arrived at 4 games. Not my opinion.

Why is that so fucking difficult to understand?

[BacktoBasics]

And if Primo was as innocent as you claim he was, he wouldn’t still be partaking in therapy to this day. You’re dumb as shit, at least on this topic dude.

I never claimed he was innocent you dumb fucking moron. I have explicitly and repeatedly stated that he was guilty.

Used to enjoy your posts and never could understand why people give you so much shit. Now I know why.

[BacktoBasics]

You think about this guy's cock a lot.

Those were not my thoughts. I was recounting what I read about the league’s conclusion.

Why that eluded some of you people is beyond me.

[Dejounte]

I never claimed he was innocent you dumb fucking moron. I have explicitly and repeatedly stated that he was guilty.

Used to enjoy your posts and never could understand why people give you so much shit. Now I know. You’re an asshole.

Oh I’m so sorry, I feel bad now. Let me play a violin for you.

You’re just as bad as koriwhat and probably just as ignorant with the stance you take on certain subjects. It’s funny because it’s two extreme ends of a spectrum and you’re both fucked up.

[BacktoBasics]

Oh I’m so sorry, I feel bad now. Let me play a violin for you.

You’re just as bad as koriwhat and probably just as ignorant with the stance you take on certain subjects. It’s funny because it’s two extreme ends of a spectrum and you’re both fucked up.

I don’t reside in my own prejudices. You may not like my opinion but at least I can take an objective look at the situation without melting down. Some of you clearly aren’t capable of exchanging words with people having a different opinion than you. This world isn’t black and white. We’re surrounded by nuances everywhere.

There are a lot of odd things here.

How do you people have disagreements in the real world? Hopefully not like the way you’re acting here.

[sfernald]

I don’t reside in my own prejudices. You may not like my opinion but at least I can take an objective look at the situation without melting down. Some of you clearly aren’t capable of exchanging words with people having a different opinion than you. This world isn’t black and white. We’re surrounded by nuances everywhere.

There are a lot of odd things here.

How do you people have disagreements in the real world? Hopefully not like the way you’re acting here.

you are really just seeing this? This forum is run by bullies.

[JPB]

you are really just seeing this? This forum is run by bullies.

I see a lot of "Captain Virtuous", deluded snowflakes too, tbh.

[JPB]

At the end of the day, this shrink is much richer for having letting a kid show her his dick 9 freaking times without making him stop. You bet he continued, that's is thing, a pulsion he could keep on satisfying.

Show me your dick once on a work place and you're out. And the only 4 games the NBA gave him may tell us something. Probably Primo not wearing underwears et letting his stuff visible undr his shorts, not actually "flashing" it. Not that it would give him any excuses, rightfully that he was cut. But I could be wrong on that.

[sfernald]

I believe the problem was he had such a long dick that his shorts couldn’t contain it. Is it his fault that he’s a reincarnation of dirk diggler!?

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/josh-primo-suspended-nba-exposing-212008935.html

Clippers consulted female employees before deciding to sign Josh Primo

Hope Nephew can show him the ropes as ex-Spur as well :lol

[KingKev]

https://sports.yahoo.com/josh-primo-suspended-nba-exposing-212008935.html

Clippers consulted female employees before deciding to sign Josh Primo

Hope Nephew can show him the ropes as ex-Spur as well :lol

haha I hope Primo exposes himself to Neph!!

[KingKev]

I don’t reside in my own prejudices. You may not like my opinion but at least I can take an objective look at the situation without melting down. Some of you clearly aren’t capable of exchanging words with people having a different opinion than you. This world isn’t black and white. We’re surrounded by nuances everywhere.

There are a lot of odd things here.

How do you people have disagreements in the real world? Hopefully not like the way you’re acting here.

I’ve enjoyed this pissing match but I do see your point man real talk. Ppl need to do their god damn job. She signed up to deal with ppls problems and he presumably has one.

[exstatic]

I’ve enjoyed this pissing match but I do see your point man real talk. Ppl need to do their god damn job. She signed up to deal with ppls problems and he presumably has one.

She signed up as a contract sports psychologist, not a therapist for sexual deviants.

[Seventyniner]

https://sports.yahoo.com/josh-primo-suspended-nba-exposing-212008935.html

Clippers consulted female employees before deciding to sign Josh Primo

Hope Nephew can show him the ropes as ex-Spur as well :lol

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

Applies to women too.

[ChumpDumper]

I’m aware that she failed to terminate treatment with a patient. Which is an huge ethical failure and dereliction of duty. Essentially enabling her own assault. Then miraculously returned to the scene of the crime to once again serve the people who she accused of allowing such a travesty to take place. Because that’s what victims do? They go back after a settlement to serve their oppressors. Yeah okay.

Here are some major issues with her ability in a professional capacity.



As previously stated by other members. She wasn’t there to treat sexual harassment. Yet she provided treatment up to 9 more times.



She didn’t maintain a safe environment for her or him.

Being a victim doesn’t absolve her if medical malpractice.

She didn't provide treatment for his sexual harassment. Ever.

No malpractice. Ever.

[KingKev]

She signed up as a contract sports psychologist, not a therapist for sexual deviants.

lol I been on that couch dude; these fake doctors are just out to cut a cheque like the rest of us. Never cared for Primo as a player and I straight up don't give a fuck if he makes it but she is clearly out for a dollar and she apparently isn’t very good at her craft.

[KingKev]

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

Applies to women too.

Why didn’t they also consult Neph, Marcus Morris and Balmer? They also could have felt threatened he would show lil Joshy. The community college grad in charge of PR dropped the ball here.

[Dejounte]

I don’t reside in my own prejudices. You may not like my opinion but at least I can take an objective look at the situation without melting down. Some of you clearly aren’t capable of exchanging words with people having a different opinion than you. This world isn’t black and white. We’re surrounded by nuances everywhere.

There are a lot of odd things here.

How do you people have disagreements in the real world? Hopefully not like the way you’re acting here.

Yeah, that must be it. NAH. I was just posting in another thread the other day how I disagreed with people about what Jrue would mean for this team. You’re grasping at straws here. The issue is consistently you and your take on related subjects involving black athletes facing injustice in society. The problem is that you ignore the facts when they are laid bare. We have a common enemy, and that’s racist incels. You just take it ten levels deeper than you have to. You can call me an asshole as much as you want to, but someday you’ll acknowledge that the stance you’re taking isn’t one of mere honest debate— it’s common sense.

[BacktoBasics]

She signed up as a contract sports psychologist, not a therapist for sexual deviants.

Then she failed her professional duties by not moving her patient to a doctor equipped to handle his condition.

[MultiTroll]

Then she failed her professional duties by not moving her patient to a doctor equipped to handle his condition.
Derrr errrr errrrr except maybe she had no authority to do that and indeed the Spurs made the call to not move Primo to another doctor and asked her to keep seeing him.

[BacktoBasics]

Derrr errrr errrrr except maybe she had no authority to do that and indeed the Spurs made the call to not move Primo to another doctor and asked her to keep seeing him.

She has an ethical and professional obligation that transcends her employer. Go ask any medical professional. It’s why we should listen to our doctors about the care we receive and not a bunch of geriatric republicans.

[koriwhat]

I don’t reside in my own prejudices. You may not like my opinion but at least I can take an objective look at the situation without melting down. Some of you clearly aren’t capable of exchanging words with people having a different opinion than you. This world isn’t black and white. We’re surrounded by nuances everywhere.

The irony :lol

[The Truth #6]

There's enough wiggle room and grey area with the case for BTB to question the narrative with the therapist. I'm not saying I have the same conviction but it's not outrageous or anything. I remember many people questioning her character when she hired that grifter lawyer and when Pop spoke out on the situation in a press conference. It seems like a group think has set in. I see BTB questioning her professional ethics not her gender. It's a legitimate conversation to have.

[Dejounte]

There's enough wiggle room and grey area with the case for BTB to question the narrative with the therapist. I'm not saying I have the same conviction but it's not outrageous or anything. I remember many people questioning her character when she hired that grifter lawyer and when Pop spoke out on the situation in a press conference. It seems like a group think has set in. I see BTB questioning her professional ethics not her gender. It's a legitimate conversation to have.

Any question over whether the victim had ill intent (and subsequently putting Primo’s behavior out in the open) went out the window the minute these two events happened: 1) Primo putting a public statement out saying that trauma is what made him do it and 2) his continued therapy and offcourt activities to “do the work” in an effort to better himself. Finding something to blame on the victim is a futile effort. People are doing it to do what? Question her character? What’s the point? Destroy her credibility? Over what? The case is closed when you look at those points above.

[tonight...you]

Eh. It's over and done with.
She got hers and he will still be getting his if he can keep his sausage in his pants in hotels and in front of medical professionals.
I'm a little skeptical, but we'll see.

Nobody's lives have been destroyed... yet.
He ain't on this team and probably will not amount to much anyways.

Shit. Maybe he does and even then I won't care. This ordeal gives no reason, as of this moment, for Spurs fans to stress over any longer IMO.
Unless you just enjoy stressing out over the trivialities of things that have nothing to do with you, which seems weird.

[ChumpDumper]

Then she failed her professional duties by not moving her patient to a doctor equipped to handle his condition.

She tried. That's when the Spurs dropped the ball. They're the ones responsible. They admitted it. Why can't you?

At once some are making a smaller and bigger deal than this actually is.

Making it a smaller deal than it is WRT the Spurs as an employer: The Spurs had to fire him, compensate the victim and reform their internal procedures. Full Stop. Nothing more or less to be done there.

Making a a bigger deal than it is: The actual exposure is a misdemeanor in Texas. Considering that and Primo's assumed verifiable ongoing therapy and penalties for other offenses, the NBA's decision is fairly routine.

[BacktoBasics]

She tried. That's when the Spurs dropped the ball. They're the ones responsible. They admitted it. Why can't you?

It’s still dereliction of duty. I agree the organization dropped the ball. She did the right thing going to them. That still doesn’t absolve her of ethical and professional responsibilities.

If a cardiologist finds that the problem is actually a lung infection does the cardiologist continue heart treatment like nothing happened simply because administration didn’t take action? No. They refuse to continue treatment because that is their ethical and professional responsibility. The cardiologist isn’t going to return to treat the patient 9 more times.

[ChumpDumper]

It’s still dereliction of duty.Simply no.

The Spurs were paying for his treatment. She made her recommendations for treatment that the Spurs ignored. She tried to continue the job she was hired to do. It's the Spurs' fault. Not the victim's.

[MultiTroll]

She has an ethical and professional obligation that transcends her employer. Go ask any medical professional. It’s why we should listen to our doctors about the care we receive and not a bunch of geriatric republicans.
Per you she had to quit her position if the Spurs did not move him to a doctor.
And they didn't.

She has 4 kids so of course you are ethically going to pay her bills until she gets set up with another pro sports team gig in the area.

[BacktoBasics]

Simply no.

The Spurs were paying for his treatment. She made her recommendations for treatment that the Spurs ignored. She tried to continue the job she was hired to do. It's the Spurs' fault. Not the victim's.

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.

I hope your cardiologist doesn’t take your advice. Simply because they’re on a hospital or clinics payroll.

[BacktoBasics]

Per you she had to quit her position if the Spurs did not move him to a doctor.
And they didn't.

She has 4 kids so of course you are ethically going to pay her bills until she gets set up with another pro sports team gig in the area.
So she has kids and that’s grounds to unethically continue treating a patient.

I do understand that quitting isn’t a favorable choice but that’s the ethical and responsible duties you take on as a licensed doctor.

She should have refused. If they fire her she would still have been in the same position from a legal standpoint.

Do you want your cardiologist to continue treating you when you really need a pulmonary specialist simply because the hospital who employs them failed to take action?

Your answer better be a resounding, Yes. Lungs be damned.

[Dejounte]

“I’m not victim blaming but here are all the ways the perpetrator wouldn’t have done what he did if the victim just did this.”

+also ignores the other women who were victimized

[ChumpDumper]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so.No. She tired to do her sports performance job she was hired to do by the Spurs.

[exstatic]

There's enough wiggle room and grey area with the case for BTB to question the narrative with the therapist. I'm not saying I have the same conviction but it's not outrageous or anything. I remember many people questioning her character when she hired that grifter lawyer and when Pop spoke out on the situation in a press conference. It seems like a group think has set in. I see BTB questioning her professional ethics not her gender. It's a legitimate conversation to have.

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

[Spurs Homer]

Weinergate: Blaming the Victim

now on spurstalk!

[BacktoBasics]

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

All the more reason that she should have moved the patient to appropriate treatment. If she did her job she might not have seen his dick in the first place let alone 9 more times.

She went back for more dick. Then leveraged it on behalf of legal threats only to say “no hard feelings, I’m thrilled to go back and revisit all this imaginary trauma. Thank you kind organization. Can I have another go at it. Can’t wait to serve my enablers on the job again.”

Suggested by no sexual assault therapist ever.

[Dejounte]

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

That should have been my point number three. All this is going over his head and it’s quite sad to see.

[MultiTroll]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.
False.
She was not treating his dick flashing.
She was treating his performance as a Spur.
She continued to treat his performance as a Spur as directed by her employer the Spurs.

[koriwhat]

That should have been my point number three. All this is going over his head and it’s quite sad to see.

It's because no matter how much virtue signaling, over other bs, B2B does he/she has no real principles or a spine to speak of.

[The Truth #6]

I think it is a complicated situation with some unknowns as they settled behind closed doors. There is a lot of guesswork involved here by everyone, including me. Most of it is known enough and isn't disputed. But the multiple incidents of abuse opens up more questions. Also there are three sides to this, not just a perpetrator and a victim, there's also the Spurs who no one wants to blame because we are fans of the team. This was not a typical client and therapist relationship, because the Spurs are actually in charge of both of them. Personally I don't blame the victim in any obvious way. If I had to guess I'll put more blame on the Spurs for letting this happen so often and get so out of hand. As for the therapist's work with Primo, no I don't think she was treating his perversion. But there should be an acknowledgement of it but we don't know those details. And so if some other mental health issue arises in their sessions I do think it is weird if it just got swept under the rug. It would be like going to a cardiologist to treat you for atrial fibrillation and then it's discovered that you have a tricuspid valve murmur and you say no I don't treat tricuspid valves and ignore it even though it's part of your specialty. But again, there are a lot of unknowns so we can't attribute blame to anyone conclusively other than Primo, but wondering abot it is reasonable, even if it appears distasteful.

[cd98]

He was mostly eh on the court, but every so often Primo flashed talent.

[ismael-robert]

She owns TWO mental health practices, she'd be fine without spurs. She's a PhD psychologist trained in general to treat all mental health conditions...she just happens to specialize in sports performance but to act like she can't treat a sexual addiction is probably a Lil too far...profesional athletes are probably highly susceptible to sexual addiction due to their build and affluence so she likely needs to be equipped to keep their minds focused on their profession

[ismael-robert]

And let's not forget she's still married, her husband is in film industry so yeah they more than fine

[scott]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.

I hope your cardiologist doesn’t take your advice. Simply because they’re on a hospital or clinics payroll.

If you show your dick to your cardiologist 11 times, the cardiologist doesn't have an obligation to find you a shrink. Get a fucking clue dude.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

“I’m not victim blaming but here are all the ways the perpetrator wouldn’t have done what he did if the victim just did this.”

+also ignores the other women who were victimized

:lol pretty much.

And it's not surprising which posters have this exact mindset, tbh.

[ambchang]

The Minnesota hotel maid failed at her job by not referring sausage to a shrink.

[The Truth #6]

In reality, the Spurs tried to get a competitive edge by utilizing a sports therapist, which is still a good idea if it can improve free throw percentages or whatever, but they got pulled into a morass of legal and ethical problems because of Primo flashing and the Spurs not really knowing how to handle mental health issues, which they shouldn't have been putting themselves in the position to take responsibility for in the first place unless they really want to get involved all the way.

If they really want their players to get mental health therapy, real mental health therapy that DeRozan was likely suggesting, they need to also somehow take themselves out of the equation. Mental health issues are vague and pervasive and individuals don't need a corporation dictating their mental health treatment. And, why would anyone share that sort of personal stuff if it just gets back to their bosses? Obviously they weren't doing real mental health therapy but if they were leaning into it, they need to be aware of the risks and yes the vulnerable position they are putting their therapists in who have no real authority in this dynamic when they should have at least 50%.

The Spurs put the therapist in an awkward situation for ethically having to take some responsibility for the client's mental health issues. Therapists have licensing boards with rules, regulations, ethical guidelines that are there to protect the clients, which in this case would be Primo. Therapists aren't supposed to fight back even if attacked but to deflect and protect. I work with therapist everyday. Every year I have to do training how to handle abuse from clients, even if they are trying to punch you, you are trained to mitigate any harm the client may create. You don't punch back and I've never heard of a therapist suing a client. From an optics standpoint she should have just sued the Spurs.

That's my $0.02.

[BacktoBasics]

If you show your dick to your cardiologist 11 times, the cardiologist doesn't have an obligation to find you a shrink. Get a fucking clue dude.

Stop seeing the client after the first time.

[MultiTroll]

If she did her job she might not have seen his dick in the first place let alone 9 more times.
Now it's the therapists fault Primo flashed the 1st time.
FFS you're lowering your already low pathetic takes.

[BacktoBasics]

Now it's the therapists fault Primo flashed the 1st time.
FFS you're lowering your already low pathetic takes.
I'm gonna give you a job. Then every day you show up I'm gonna kick you in the nuts. I expect you back every day because you know... its your job.

[cd98]

If the therapist had reason to be fired, it was for not giving him confidence to play NBA level basketball on the court, not for his behavior off the court.

[MultiTroll]

I'm gonna give you a job. Then every day you show up I'm gonna kick you in the nuts. I expect you back every day because you know... its your job.
:lol
One of the lamer troll jobs on TrollTalk, but I'm now convinced that is all you were, are and will be on this thread.

[The Truth #6]

I'm gonna give you a job. Then every day you show up I'm gonna kick you in the nuts. I expect you back every day because you know... its your job.

I agree about ethical responsibilities of the job, but in the real world a lot of people would be ok getting kicked in the nuts to work a high paying job for an NBA team. The high stakes of the salary and prestige shouldn't erase ethical duties of therapists in general but it definitely complicates it.

[heyheymymy]

'Very upsetting': Primo speaks out on exposure allegations, joining Clips
The 20-year-old says he'll continue with therapy while out in Los Angeleshttps://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/primo-addresses-allegations-suspension-spurs-18404781.php

[heyheymymy]

"Everyone felt like this was a bit alarming and coming from myself, I think it was very alarming," Primo said to Law Murray of The Athletic. "It was very upsetting with these allegations coming out. But I feel like at this point in time, I’m in a better place and I’m going to continue to get into a better place. But I had to take responsibility for the actions that I have going forward. And over the past year, I’ve continued to do that, and I will continue to do that."

Joshua Primo: "I had to take responsibility for the actions that I have going forward. And over the past year, I continued to do that, and I will continue to do that."

[heyheymymy]

"It was very upsetting with these allegations coming out."

Yeah that's not the only thing that was coming out and upsetting

[R. DeMurre]

This is such a modern day media story, with detail free statements coming from all sides, purposefully vague and lawyer driven. Nothing about the story is clear, but people will continue to argue the nuances, which are not detailed by any of the characters in the narrative-- not from Primo, not from Pop, RC, or Brian Wright, not from the therapist, and not from any of the many lawyers involved.

[Rocalcio]

"Everyone felt like this was a bit alarming and coming from myself, I think it was very alarming," Primo said to Law Murray of The Athletic. "It was very upsetting with these allegations coming out. But I feel like at this point in time, I’m in a better place and I’m going to continue to get into a better place. But I had to take responsibility for the actions that I have going forward. And over the past year, I’ve continued to do that, and I will continue to do that."

Joshua Primo: "I had to take responsibility for the actions that I have going forward. And over the past year, I continued to do that, and I will continue to do that."





Leonard already got in his head about how bad San Antonio is… Dumbass

[MultiTroll]

This is such a modern day media story, with detail free statements coming from all sides, purposefully vague and lawyer driven. Nothing about the story is clear, but people will continue to argue the nuances, which are not detailed by any of the characters in the narrative-- not from Primo, not from Pop, RC, or Brian Wright, not from the therapist, and not from any of the many lawyers involved.
Rack it.

Wonder if any of the Clippers female employees including cheerleaders......kind of perked up when told Primo would be coming on campus. :lmao

*Premptive lighten up to the moral outrage Wokesters who may try to waste bandwidth with some indignant reply.

[Mr. Body]

The way he talks suggests he hasn't owned up to what he did and doesn't hold himself to account.

[CorrectCrusader]

This is such a modern day media story, with detail free statements coming from all sides, purposefully vague and lawyer driven. Nothing about the story is clear, but people will continue to argue the nuances, which are not detailed by any of the characters in the narrative-- not from Primo, not from Pop, RC, or Brian Wright, not from the therapist, and not from any of the many lawyers involved.

Has there been any evidence presented at all? Like it seems so pointless to comment on this story

[ambchang]

The clippers ended up with the ex-spurs dicks.

[MultiTroll]

The way he talks suggests he hasn't owned up to what he did and doesn't hold himself to account.
Approved of by his lawyer for sure.

But with some of the sue crazy people today in general and the MeToo and MePoo crowd still active (not saying Heather the Spurs psychologist was at all) I'm sure his lawyer has impressed on him the importance of not saying anything even remotely that could be embellished into some indictment.

[Mr. Body]

Approved of by his lawyer for sure.

But with some of the sue crazy people today in general and the MeToo and MePoo crowd still active (not saying Heather the Spurs psychologist was at all) I'm sure his lawyer has impressed on him the importance of not saying anything even remotely that could be embellished into some indictment.

You think passive voice is lawyer talk? Lawyer talk would be him just saying he can't really talk about the issue, but that he's working on it, etc.

[buttsR4rebounding]

She signed up as a contract sports psychologist, not a therapist for sexual deviants.

I wasn't aware that you were privy to her contract. Why don't you just post it to settle this? I don't agree with B2B real often, but he is right on the money here. I care for 120 people with mental health diagnoses. I deal with therapists of all sorts frequently. Someone who pulled this type of stunt at my facility would not be back and I would seriously consider reporting them to the appropriate oversight.

[exstatic]

I wasn't aware that you were privy to her contract. Why don't you just post it to settle this? I don't agree with B2B real often, but he is right on the money here. I care for 120 people with mental health diagnoses. I deal with therapists of all sorts frequently. Someone who pulled this type of stunt at my facility would not be back and I would seriously consider reporting them to the appropriate oversight.


Dr. Cauthen was hired as a clinical psychologist by the Spurs in April 2021. She was hired to assist players in enhancing performance and help them be better players, according to Buzbee.

https://foxsanantonio.com/newsletter-daily/accuser-attorney-to-speak-about-allegations-against-former-spurs-guard-josh-primo-san-antonio-texas-basketball-players-investigation-police

[BacktoBasics]

https://foxsanantonio.com/newsletter-daily/accuser-attorney-to-speak-about-allegations-against-former-spurs-guard-josh-primo-san-antonio-texas-basketball-players-investigation-police

Thanks for the link. It does provide additional information.

This particularly isn't surprising. There was clearly more being discussed here beyond a pregame routine.


He also said that he and Dr. Hillary Cauthen have been threatened by lawyers in California due to the possibility of disclosing aspects of the sessions between Dr. Cauthen and Primo.

What could they possibly want to keep private? The fact that she was actually addressing his behavior? Surely its not a sore hamstring.


What makes the allegations even less credible is that Dr. Cauthen never informed her patient of the purported exposure. Dr. Cauthen was Mr. Primo’s mental health support provider and confidant; a therapist who Mr. Primo trusted. She is much older than Mr. Primo, with many years of experience as a sports psychologist. It is baffling why she did not bother to tell her patient that his private parts were visible underneath his shorts.

I will say it again. She absolutely should have refused to provide mental healthcare to him. Especially if she was being phased out anyway. Just stop treating the patient and if she wanted to sue for wrongful termination she would have been in the exact same boat she was in anyway. The whole 9 times tells me she had motive to continue to put herself in that situation. After all she knew they were moving away from her employment. So why not perpetuate a problem to use against them.

Seems to me she simply looked at the organizations failure as an opportunity to build a case around it.

No wonder the team bent over backwards for her.

But I'm not going to act like she's some traumatized person especially after going to back to the people who failed her. Who does that? Who goes back to work for the people who enabled trauma? She enabled the trauma and then used it.

[exstatic]

Thanks for the link. It does provide additional information.

This particularly isn't surprising. There was clearly more being discussed here beyond a pregame routine.



What could they possibly want to keep private? The fact that she was actually addressing his behavior? Surely its not a sore hamstring.



I will say it again. She absolutely should have refused to provide mental healthcare to him. Especially if she was being phased out anyway. Just stop treating the patient and if she wanted to sue for wrongful termination she would have been in the exact same boat she was in anyway. The whole 9 times tells me she had motive to continue to put herself in that situation. After all she knew they were moving away from her employment. So why not perpetuate a problem to use against them.

Seems to me she simply looked at the organizations failure as an opportunity to build a case around it.

No wonder the team bent over backwards for her.

But I'm not going to act like she's some traumatized person especially after going to back to the people who failed her. Who does that? Who goes back to work for the people who enabled trauma? She enabled the trauma and then used it.

So, she has to quit her job because an employee repeatedly exposes himself to her? Because that's what he did, and he did it again in Vegas, and he did it again in Minneapolis. It wasn't accidental exposure like Primo's camp is trying to play it off. There were three instances, and you only ever address or focus on one of them, B2B. Was it whoever's fault in Vegas? Was it housekeeping's fault in the Minneapolis hotel?

[The Truth #6]

I think we have to be skeptical of both statements from each lawyer. Other than Buzbee has there been any proof or anyone else to collaborate the Vegas or Minnesota incidents? And as for primo's lawyer it's hard to take anything he says as accurate either because they will not do a release of information to show us the transcripts of their therapy sessions to collaborate what they are saying.

[MultiTroll]

So, she has to quit her job because an employee repeatedly exposes himself to her? Because that's what he did, and he did it again in Vegas, and he did it again in Minneapolis. It wasn't accidental exposure like Primo's camp is trying to play it off. There were three instances, and you only ever address or focus on one of them, B2B. Was it whoever's fault in Vegas? Was it housekeeping's fault in the Minneapolis hotel?
:lol Everyone who Primo flashes is supposed to quit their job per Back2BS.

I think she must have hit on Hillary Cauthen and been rejected.
Not taking it well.

[exstatic]

I think we have to be skeptical of both statements from each lawyer. Other than Buzbee has there been any proof or anyone else to collaborate the Vegas or Minnesota incidents? And as for primo's lawyer it's hard to take anything he says as accurate either because they will not do a release of information to show us the transcripts of their therapy sessions to collaborate what they are saying.

The fact that SA had already picked up his 23-24 option literally days before, and then immediately waived him after a club investigation following the return from the Minny trip confirms it to me. He was also pulled off the floor for the intervening games.

[John B]

Primo said in his media interview that he should be responsible for his actions, and he has been for the last year. Accident or not, it happened and now he knows it’s wrong. I think he was delusional, naive, immature or whatever it may be. I’m sure it happened and that’s why he’s taking therapy.

For the NBA to only give him 4 games suspension, they are not considering this a major offense, that he’s not a sexual predator or worse. I’m glad he’s taking therapy to correct and hopefully he redeems himself. I still wanted the Spurs to have given him that 2nd chance.

[exstatic]

Primo said in his media interview that he should be responsible for his actions, and he has been for the last year. Accident or not, it happened and now he knows it’s wrong. I think he was delusional, naive, immature or whatever it may be. I’m sure it happened and that’s why he’s taking therapy.

For the NBA to only give him 4 games suspension, they are not considering this a major offense, that he’s not a sexual predator or worse. I’m glad he’s taking therapy to correct and hopefully he redeems himself. I still wanted the Spurs to have given him that 2nd chance.

The NBA is limited by the CBA in what they can do. They only gave Bridges 10 games for beating the holy shit out of a woman. Don't use the NBA suspension as a yardstick as to the severity of the offense. Their hands are tied in many cases.

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for the link. It does provide additional information.

This particularly isn't surprising. There was clearly more being discussed here beyond a pregame routine.



What could they possibly want to keep private? The fact that she was actually addressing his behavior? Surely its not a sore hamstring.



I will say it again. She absolutely should have refused to provide mental healthcare to him. Especially if she was being phased out anyway. Just stop treating the patient and if she wanted to sue for wrongful termination she would have been in the exact same boat she was in anyway. The whole 9 times tells me she had motive to continue to put herself in that situation. After all she knew they were moving away from her employment. So why not perpetuate a problem to use against them.

Seems to me she simply looked at the organizations failure as an opportunity to build a case around it.

No wonder the team bent over backwards for her.

But I'm not going to act like she's some traumatized person especially after going to back to the people who failed her. Who does that? Who goes back to work for the people who enabled trauma? She enabled the trauma and then used it.

So now she's not even a victim?

Man, you've really talked yourself into a whole new area.

[ChumpDumper]

Primo said in his media interview that he should be responsible for his actions, and he has been for the last year. Accident or not, it happened and now he knows it’s wrong. I think he was delusional, naive, immature or whatever it may be. I’m sure it happened and that’s why he’s taking therapy.

For the NBA to only give him 4 games suspension, they are not considering this a major offense, that he’s not a sexual predator or worse. I’m glad he’s taking therapy to correct and hopefully he redeems himself. I still wanted the Spurs to have given him that 2nd chance.

It's a misdemeanor in Texas.

The Spurs as a business absolutely had to fire him.

You guys are trying to make this more complicated than it is.

[The Truth #6]

The fact that SA had already picked up his 23-24 option literally days before, and then immediately waived him after a club investigation following the return from the Minny trip confirms it to me. He was also pulled off the floor for the intervening games.

Not sure what part you're responding to but the impending lawsuit is what I remember triggering his release. No one including Primo is denying the exposures. So no, there is no proof of what either lawyer says that I alluded to previously. Do you typically take lawyers at face value?

[MultiTroll]

The NBA is limited by the CBA in what they can do. They only gave Bridges 10 games for beating the holy shit out of a woman. Don't use the NBA suspension as a yardstick as to the severity of the offense. Their hands are tied in many cases.
The courts can be equally soft.
Not always, but often.
Mookie Blaylock draws 3 years in jail for fatal crash

[BacktoBasics]

So, she has to quit her job because an employee repeatedly exposes himself to her? Because that's what he did, and he did it again in Vegas, and he did it again in Minneapolis. It wasn't accidental exposure like Primo's camp is trying to play it off. There were three instances, and you only ever address or focus on one of them, B2B. Was it whoever's fault in Vegas? Was it housekeeping's fault in the Minneapolis hotel?

You're right. I know if I'm being assaulted I'll keep going back until someone else puts a stop to it.

[Seventyniner]

The fact that SA had already picked up his 23-24 option literally days before, and then immediately waived him after a club investigation following the return from the Minny trip confirms it to me. He was also pulled off the floor for the intervening games.

This. Going from picking up his option (a routine thing to do with nearly any first-rounder, especially a lottery selection) to waiving him a few days later means something drastic happened in those few days, or at the very least the final straw dropped.

[The Truth #6]

I think they were blindsided by the lawsuit. I don't see them picking up his option if they were either fully aware of the situation or treating it seriously.

[R. DeMurre]

Without an honest timeline, it's just impossible to fully figure any of this stuff out. The scenario I'm stuck wondering about is whether or not Pop, RC, & Wright were aware of Primo's transgressions each and every time. It's hard to imagine a situation where they're all aware of say 2 or 3 previous occurrences, then hear of yet another one, then another, and then yet another, all during a time span where Primo's being talked about with phrases like "uncanny maturity" and "high character." I'm not pre-inclined to take any sides at this point, but something definitely seems off about the whole affair.

[exstatic]

Not sure what part you're responding to but the impending lawsuit is what I remember triggering his release. No one including Primo is denying the exposures. So no, there is no proof of what either lawyer says that I alluded to previously. Do you typically take lawyers at face value?


I think we have to be skeptical of both statements from each lawyer. Other than Buzbee has there been any proof or anyone else to collaborate the Vegas or Minnesota incidents? And as for primo's lawyer it's hard to take anything he says as accurate either because they will not do a release of information to show us the transcripts of their therapy sessions to collaborate what they are saying.

The Spurs actions that I mentioned confirm at least the Minnesota instance.

[BatManu20]

Inspiring.

1721559811160948793

[exstatic]

Inspiring.

1721559811160948793

The move should give him more exposure around the league.

[CGD]

It’s a shame it all played out the way it did. I think he would have been really good on this current team

[rascal]

It’s a shame it all played out the way it did. I think he would have been really good on this current team

He wasn't very good. Counting on him wasn't going to work out. He wasn't strong mentally or good enough physically to amount to anything. People don't do the things he did if they're mentally sound.

Spurs caught a break to cut ties when they did instead of investing too much time with him.

[Rocalcio]

He wasn't very good. Counting on him wasn't going to work out. He wasn't strong mentally or good enough physically to amount to anything. People don't do the things he did if they're mentally sound.

Spurs caught a break to cut ties when they did instead of investing too much time with him.

Well, a lot of posters here said the same, we’ll figure out if that’s true since he’ll be playing soon. But I believe that if LA gave him a chance despite the scandal about him, they probably saw some potential.

[John B]

Well, a lot of posters here said the same, we’ll figure out if that’s true since he’ll be playing soon. But I believe that if LA gave him a chance despite the scandal about him, they probably saw some potential.

Agree. It’s too bad that’s the position, PG that is, that the Spurs currently need and what they were developing Primo to be. That really derailed the team’s plan. I wander had they known earlier if they still would let both DJ and Derrick go, or keep one of them. Derrick is a good soldier and probably could’ve helped tank if that’s what asked of him, and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind. DJ was a stat padder diva so it would bother him a lot to tank, so no question of him moving (besides I didn’t like the guy since that incident when he was talking back to Pop. That turned me off against him, unheard of for a Spur and especially for a team captain).

[ginobilized]

Primo could learn a lot from practicing against Harden. Will be interesting to watch what happens.

[Teamduncan21]

The move should give him more exposure around the league.

Not more exposure

[rjv]

Primo could learn a lot from practicing against Harden. Will be interesting to watch what happens.


harden likes them loose fitting shorts so too so let's hope that's not all "the traveler" shows primo.

[tbdog]

Charania] Primo – the 12th pick in the 2021 NBA draft has been undergoing therapy and was suspended for four games due to conduct detrimental after league investigation “found that Primo engaged in inappropriate and offensive behavior by exposing himself to women”


https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1721559811160948793?s=20

[Uriel]

It's a shame. If he really did have franchise player potential like our front office believed, our starting lineup would already be set:

PG - Primo
SG - Vassell
SF - Johnson
PF - Wembaynama
C - Collins
Sixth Man - Sochan

[timtonymanu]

The one time I agree with rascal.

[timtonymanu]

The move should give him more exposure around the league.

Last thing we need is him exposing himself to more women

[baseline bum]

Inspiring.

1721559811160948793

LOL is there anything more the Clippers could do to build a team I hate more? Maybe bring Zaza Pachulia out of retirement? Hire Karl Malone head coach and Vinny Del Negro assistant?

[MultiTroll]

Charania] Primo – the 12th pick in the 2021 NBA draft has been undergoing therapy and was suspended for four games due to conduct detrimental after league investigation “found that Primo engaged in inappropriate and offensive behavior by exposing himself to women”
How the hell does a league investigation of this sort make it out to the public thru the media?
Players Association hello?

[ambchang]

I guess primos play stood out for the clippers to convert him.

[Harry Callahan]

The due diligence failed on the guy, but its not easy to get the truth with players who don't spend much time in college. Their true characteristics aren't fully determined.

[spursparker9]

The Clippers are stacked tbh :lol

What a monster team....if this was 2017.

[timtonymanu]

Clips look like the other favorites in the West, other than Denver. Health is always their biggest obstacle though. I’m not sold on the lakers or suns.

[spurraider21]

denver's depth is going to be an issue. 33 year old reggie jackson who wasnt even in their rotation last year is suddenly being asked to be a a 20+ minute guy and alongside christian braun... be the guys to lead the bench?

yeah, their starting 5 is still very strong like last year, but at least bruce brown and jeff green were dependable bench performers.

clippers actually have good depth. even after dealing some of their spare parts to philly, they still have hyland, powell, pj tucker, mann, and plumlee off the bench.

edit: looks like plumlee had an ugly injury today... to be seen how serious

[exstatic]

Last thing we need is him exposing himself to more women

Guess I shoulda used the blue font…

[Em-City]

denver's depth is going to be an issue. 33 year old reggie jackson who wasnt even in their rotation last year is suddenly being asked to be a a 20+ minute guy and alongside christian braun... be the guys to lead the bench?

yeah, their starting 5 is still very strong like last year, but at least bruce brown and jeff green were dependable bench performers.

clippers actually have good depth. even after dealing some of their spare parts to philly, they still have hyland, powell, pj tucker, mann, and plumlee off the bench.

edit: looks like plumlee had an ugly injury today... to be seen how serious

I'm sure Denver will pick up some solid vets at the trade deadline or after buyouts. They've got enough in their core not to worry about regular season standings

[exstatic]

I'm sure Denver will pick up some solid vets at the trade deadline or after buyouts. They've got enough in their core not to worry about regular season standings

We’ll have some short term pieces to flip to Denver, the bonus being that we could help obstruct Nephew’s path to a LoB.

[MultiTroll]

Playoff Pee will sink to the occasion in the playoffs.

[emanueldavidginobili]

CziT61vg22Z

[MultiTroll]

Ontario Clippers’ season-opening 109-102 victory over the G League Ignite, Primo had 10 points, six rebounds and five assists.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

CziT61vg22Z
would look great now as a pg :)

[spursparker9]

would look great now as a pg :)

Would be forming lob city v2.0 with Wemby

[spurraider21]

Primo has good size to be a point guard. He only had one year obviously, but even in season 2 summer league or preseason i was never really sure what above average skill he had. Shooting, ball handling, passing, defense, playmaking, finishing at the rim… was all meh at best. He had decent touch in the paint with floaters and whatnot. But of course was drafted very young. Supposedly spurs brass thought he was a face of the franchise type. I never bought it but maybe he proves me wrong and balls out

[koriwhat]

Primo has good size to be a point guard. He only had one year obviously, but even in season 2 summer league or preseason i was never really sure what above average skill he had. Shooting, ball handling, passing, defense, playmaking, finishing at the rim… was all meh at best. He had decent touch in the paint with floaters and whatnot. But of course was drafted very young. Supposedly spurs brass thought he was a face of the franchise type. I never bought it but maybe he proves me wrong and balls out

He's definitely going to balls out. :lol

[R. DeMurre]

The Spurs really do seem semi-obsessed with the idea of having an oversized PG, having now experimented with both Primo and Sochan in that role. I think ultimately having length at SF would prove more valuable, but I get the aim. Calvin Booth is having lots of success in Denver with emphasizing positional length, and in the best case scenario Wemby is San Antonio's Jokic. My hope is they continue along these lines of prioritizing this advantage, and don't compromise with the fall back idea that Victor can cover for shortcomings elsewhere.

[Dverde]

Even if primo shows…he gives legitimacy to the Spurs scouts who drafted him. Spurs gave him a couple look aways and he still showed himself (physically) to others that require some help. I think he’s a rotation player and the clippers got a bargain assuming he doesn’t relapse

[timtonymanu]

Clippers are in need of wins but he still can’t crack a minute in the game. :cry we lost our starting PG.

[poopbox]

This team almost let duncan fucking robinson get a tip in against 4 people. Jesus Christ :rollin

[scott]

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No charges filed against Primo, insufficient evidence.

[spursparker9]

No charges, can we get him back? Is he with g-league or DNP at LAC?

[poopbox]

Pulled his dick out but insufficient evidence of him pulling his dick out

[MultiTroll]

No charges, can we get him back? Is he with g-league or DNP at LAC?
Game and esp per minute averages are very good.
28 mins
17 pts
46% on both fgs and treys
4 rebs
3 assists
2 steals

Dk why it shows on 3 games.

Ya wonder where he is right now.

NBA G League Stats | Joshua Primo (https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630563/)

[Splits]

Texas. Where men can assault women with impunity but women with a dead child in her womb must give birth, even if it costs her her life.

Nice little state you've got there.

[exstatic]

Pulled his dick out but insufficient evidence of him pulling his dick out

Payouts always negate prosecution.

[spursparker9]

What is going on with Primo? Signed with LAC and only played 1 game so far. Currently listed in the injured list with status is "undisclosed".

Played 1 game. 5min, 2 pts, 3 TOs, 1 blk

[MultiTroll]

^^ I hope this isn't his season highlights:

Joshua Primo (2 points) Highlights vs. New York Knicks | NBA.com (https://www.nba.com/watch/video/joshua-primo-2-points-highlights-vs-new-york-knicks?plsrc=nba)

[Spursfanfromafar]

A terrible and a completely wasted draft pick that will always remain a blot on Brian Wright's resume.

[slick'81]

It still hurts

[exstatic]

What is going on with Primo? Signed with LAC and only played 1 game so far. Currently listed in the injured list with status is "undisclosed".

Played 1 game. 5min, 2 pts, 3 TOs, 1 blk

He was signed to a 2way contract, not a 15 man roster deal. He hasn’t played much more for their gleague affiliate, only 5 games. Maybe his Johnson ‘slipped out of his shorts’ again.

[buttsR4rebounding]

He was signed to a 2way contract, not a 15 man roster deal. He hasn’t played much more for their gleague affiliate, only 5 games. Maybe his Johnson ‘slipped out of his shorts’ again.

Only player that fakes himself out of his jock...

[MultiTroll]

He was signed to a 2way contract, not a 15 man roster deal.

According to The Athletic's Shams Charania (https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1721559811160948793?s=20), the Los Angeles Clippers (https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/) are signing Primo to a standard deal after he was on a two-way deal.

[exstatic]

According to The Athletic's Shams Charania (https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1721559811160948793?s=20), the Los Angeles Clippers (https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/) are signing Primo to a standard deal after he was on a two-way deal.

That what bbref now says,too. Don’t really care, but it’s good for the Spurs, as his $1.7M for this year is relief from the $4.3M option for this year that they picked up early, and just days before they waived him.

[John B]

I’m sure Primo would be helping some right now if things didn’t happen. He’s a more natural PG than what Pop is sending out there, and his defense would be much needed. Still he hasn’t proved worthy of the 12th pick, specially with Sengun, Jalen Johnson, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones and Austin Reaves still available. I think Jalen could do a lot of what Sochan is trying to do now, a Point-Forward, and allowed the Spurs to pick Jalen Williams the following year instead of Sochan.

[Obstructed_View]

That what bbref now says,too. Don’t really care, but it’s good for the Spurs, as his $1.7M for this year is relief from the $4.3M option for this year that they picked up early, and just days before they waived him.
That is good news for the Spurs.

Has Primo played a minute of basketball anywhere since the Spurs cut him?

[exstatic]

That is good news for the Spurs.

Has Primo played a minute of basketball anywhere since the Spurs cut him?

He played in 1 clippers game and 5 gleague games this year,but had some unspecified injury now.

[talkspurs]

That what bbref now says,too. Don’t really care, but it’s good for the Spurs, as his $1.7M for this year is relief from the $4.3M option for this year that they picked up early, and just days before they waived him.

Are you sure this is true? Typically that is what happens when they reach a buyout but when they just waive someone I thought they still got their salary plus any new signings.

[exstatic]

Are you sure this is true? Typically that is what happens when they reach a buyout but when they just waive someone I thought they still got their salary plus any new signings.

No. When he signed another deal, Spurs owe him what his salary was, minus his new salary. No double dipping, which is fair to the team that eats a salary.

[gambit1990]

no use in bumping this thread.

if the spurs drafted sengun instead them they don't get wemby so ...

[buttsR4rebounding]

no use in bumping this thread.

if the spurs drafted sengun instead them they don't get wemby so ...

Because Houston made the playoffs last year…oh, wait didn’t we lose a coin flip to them?

[gambit1990]

Because Houston made the playoffs last year…oh, wait didn’t we lose a coin flip to them?
good point. you never know though, how different things could've turned out.

if the spurs won a coin flip and the draft happened again, odds say the rockets win the coin flip in a universe where the spurs drafted sengun and ended up with the same-ish record.

[exstatic]

Because Houston made the playoffs last year…oh, wait didn’t we lose a coin flip to them?

Yeah,but we would have had Halliburton if we passed on Vassell, so which of those would you rather we passed on, since both together would have put us out of the running for Wemby?

Every time we’ve played the Rockets, Wemby zips up Sengün into a body bag, but people here are still crying over missing him. WTF?

[The Truth #6]

Yeah,but we would have had Halliburton if we passed on Vassell, so which of those would you rather we passed on, since both together would have put us out of the running for Wemby?

Every time we’ve played the Rockets, Wemby zips up Sengün into a body bag, but people here are still crying over missing him. WTF?

I think the comparison is to drafting Primo who proved to be an embarrassment, not comparing Sengun to VW. I'd much rather have Sengun than Primo's wasted pick.

[exstatic]

I think the comparison is to drafting Primo who proved to be an embarrassment, not comparing Sengun to VW. I'd much rather have Sengun than Primo's wasted pick.

Why?

[buttsR4rebounding]

Yeah,but we would have had Halliburton if we passed on Vassell, so which of those would you rather we passed on, since both together would have put us out of the running for Wemby?

Every time we’ve played the Rockets, Wemby zips up Sengün into a body bag, but people here are still crying over missing him. WTF?

Of course, Haliburton was hurt a bunch of the year. Plus you have the Pop factor. There is definitely a path that the Spurs have Wemby, Haliburton and Sengun. At this point I believe Pop can lose with Duncan, Parker and Manu.

[rankingtear]

Of course, Haliburton was hurt a bunch of the year. Plus you have the Pop factor. There is definitely a path that the Spurs have Wemby, Haliburton and Sengun. At this point I believe Pop can lose with Duncan, Parker and Manu.

This is dumb. You can't claim there is a path unless you are Doctor Strange tbh. If we picked HALI who does SAC pick next, PEL, BOS etc. Does IND and SAC join the tank withouth that Hali trade etc.

[couchman]

Just because we got lucky in the lottery and got Wemby doesn’t excuse shitty draft choices of the past.
No one knew at the time that we’d get Wemby. They we're trying to draft the best players and did poorly.
Primo over almost anyone else was a mistake.
Vassell over Halliburton was a mistake, even though Vassell is pretty good.
This isn’t perfect hindsight or anything either.
A lot of people wanted Sengun. A lot of people wanted Halliburton.
Our FO screwed those up.
I’m not convinced Sochan was a mistake but he was drafted because we had no PF.
He’s being ruined at PG so that’s on the coaching staff, not the FO.

[LeBowen]

Vassell over Haliburton wasn't a mistake because we already had both White and Murray.

Should've drafted Jalen Williams or Duren instead of Sochan, but if we already didn't get Duren, not getting Kessler with Branham pick was the biggest mistake of that draft.

[The Truth #6]

Why?

I would rather have a productive player than someone we cut.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[baseline bum]

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And that right there scares me the hell off of guys like Holland and Buzelis when you see how crap that league is that Primo can look like Prime Jordan.

[RC_Drunkford]

the G-League franchise player. Brian is getting it right :lol

[CGD]

Primo would absolutely be starting at PG for Spurs had things gone differently.

[spurraider21]

Primo would absolutely be starting at PG for Spurs had things gone differently.
that sounds terrible

[Joseph Kony]

:lol is this gonna be like the Samanic thread where people keep posting his Gleague highlights while never posting any actual NBA highlights because there arent any

[SpursBills]

He seems like a scrub, but I sincerely hope he turns it around and becomes a solid contributor to a winning team. That would at least mean that maybe Brian Wright and the front office aren't a bunch of dumbfucks and had a reason to take this guy way above anyone projected because they were able to see something that literally nobody else did. Otherwise that draft pick was completely inexplicable.

[timtonymanu]

My most hated Spur ever and he was barely here.

[ismael-robert]

Hating him more than kawhi makes zero sense...the confidence he shows shooting those 3s off the dribble show he's a natural scorer...Spurs weren't wrong

[objective]

Sengun just had 37 points in a real NBA game, but Brian Wright didn't think he could play.

Now he's crying in his khakis.

[timtonymanu]

Nephew still helped us to get #5. :lol at least there’s good memories there.

Can’t remember crap about Primo other than flashing his Keldon Johnson at women and the organization having to hide it instead of just kicking him off the team like they should have the moment they heard about it.

[Atl Spur]

We still doing this?? Wow……damn the move in the end helped us get Wemby..funny dudes.

[MultiTroll]

:lol is this gonna be like the Samanic thread where people keep posting his Gleague highlights while never posting any actual NBA highlights because there arent any

https://youtu.be/Kcl9iki34hc


https://youtu.be/cK0ZdH3KDuo

[slick'81]

Great pick b wright

[baseline bum]

Primo would absolutely be starting at PG for Spurs had things gone differently.

Yeah he'd be another Branham no doubt

[emanueldavidginobili]

:lol is this gonna be like the Samanic thread where people keep posting his Gleague highlights while never posting any actual NBA highlights because there arent any
Lmao I hear you, surprisingly Luka is on the Jazz main squad. Not that he's doing shit but I am surprised he's in the NBA still let alone signing a multi year deal and being on the Jazz active roster.

[Dex]

Y'all seriously need to learn to move on.

Yes, Primo was a failed draft pick. (Pretty sure I called that since day 1)

Since leaving the Spurs, Primo has played....checks notes.....1 game in the NBA, where he scored 2 points and had 3 turnovers for the LA Clippers.

Spurs were right to part ways with this loser, but y'all can't quit crying over spilled milk and lost opportunities.

[ambchang]

^ you can most definitely cry over spilled milk when there’s an agenda to crap over PATFO.

[scott]

Primo thread still has more posts than the Victor thread, but the gap is narrowing. The singularity event where the two threads are of exact equal length is forthcoming, when it is prophesized that our savior will be revealed.

[KingKev]

Is @atlspur still screaming free lil joshy!!!

That pick was the epitome of PATFO having their heads up their asses in the name of perceived culture guys they thought they could mold.

[HankChinaski]

This just in! Who gives a shit.

[Sugus]

^ you can most definitely cry over spilled milk when there’s an agenda to crap over PATFO.

For sure, it's so obvious and pathetic. Discourse here has taken such a turn for the worse. You can't even praise players or team moves without getting shat on.

Plenty people disliked the Primo pick for valid reasons, but pretending his failing was related to anything other than him being a sexual deviant predator (a completely unpredictable and unfortunate fact) is so stupid. He'd be a sophomore player at this point and who the fuck knows how things would've turned out. There's no other reason to beat the dead horse other than agenda pushing at this point.

[Atl Spur]

For sure, it's so obvious and pathetic. Discourse here has taken such a turn for the worse. You can't even praise players or team moves without getting shat on.

Plenty people disliked the Primo pick for valid reasons, but pretending his failing was related to anything other than him being a sexual deviant predator (a completely unpredictable and unfortunate fact) is so stupid. He'd be a sophomore player at this point and who the fuck knows how things would've turned out. There's no other reason to beat the dead horse other than agenda pushing at this point.

Bravo….. couldn’t have said it better.

[offset formation]

We still doing this?? Wow……damn the move in the end helped us get Wemby..funny dudes.

Sit this one out cuz.

[offset formation]

For sure, it's so obvious and pathetic. Discourse here has taken such a turn for the worse. You can't even praise players or team moves without getting shat on.

Plenty people disliked the Primo pick for valid reasons, but pretending his failing was related to anything other than him being a sexual deviant predator (a completely unpredictable and unfortunate fact) is so stupid. He'd be a sophomore player at this point and who the fuck knows how things would've turned out. There's no other reason to beat the dead horse other than agenda pushing at this point.

First paragraph question: Hasn't the discourse always been hostile here? In fact I'd say it's almost genteel now compared to past years when the same thing you're stating used to happen but with about 3 or 4 homophobic or misogynistic insults per post. Unless you want to give me an example where I'm just not understanding what you mean.

Second paragraph question: I'm confused if not liking Primo for him not being good before he unleashed the Kraken "is so stupid" still? You seem to say people disliked the pick for valid reasons then assert you could only logically do so because he flashed. For clarity in case it matters to your rebuttal, I felt bad for Primo from the start because they were forcing him to be the primary ball handler and he had zero shot of being successful at that spot. And that's PATFO's fault, not his. I thought he had a shot to be a decent player as a pure 3 and D that was not the focus of an offense because he is very turnover prone and is a piss-poor passer. That said, I also resented his pick because I turned out to be spot on that Sengun was the far superior player and that's been borne out.

[rascal]

Primo would absolutely be starting at PG for Spurs had things gone differently.

Doubt it

Primo didn't have the mental makeup of being successful. He looked like a child in the face. I don't know what the Spurs saw in him.

I didn't see any extra special skills in his game, just another hope he turns into this player because now his game is full of holes.
It was a miscalculated and botched draft pick by the front office.

I question the ability of this fo to assess talent.

[slick'81]

Doubt it

Primo didn't have the mental makeup of being successful. He looked like a child in the face. I don't know what the Spurs saw in him.

I didn't see any extra special skills in his game, just another hope he turns into this player because now his game is full of holes.
It was a miscalculated and botched draft pick by the front office.

I question the ability of this fo to assess talent.


with the playing field even in term of drafting id agree with that. If spurs didn't luck into wemby jesus Christ help us

[BatManu20]

Lol. Bring him back PATFO :cry

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[NASpurs]

Lol. Bring him back PATFO :cry

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Another PATFO grand slam of a pick.

[Ariel]

This guy was always a bum, and would have flamed out irrespective of his perv status. Worst Spurs pick in over 20 years.

[MultiTroll]

^ don't agree.

How far he would / would not have made it we may never know.
You had the perhaps worst coach in the NBA trying to force mold him into a Chrissy Paul point guard role.
That can and definitely did phuck with an 18 year old brain. BTW Grandpa Retard does it again with Sochan.

Flashes, thus next has to get back in with any team that would take him.
I don't think the Clips org with such immature putzes as Harden, Playoff Pee and Kawhi was the best place at all to rehab.
But Primo had to take what he could get. Probably the one and only offer.

[ismael-robert]

He's playing for a team with future hofs in Russ n Harden, of course he's not getting his chance there

[objective]

Cement Shoes cut for Kai Jones? Ouch

[CorrectCrusader]

Yeah this guy isn't gonna be in the league next year. womp womp

[exstatic]

He's playing for a team with future hofs in Russ n Harden, of course he's not getting his chance there

There’s a major problem when you get cut in order for your team to sign Krazy Kai.

[timtonymanu]

Son of a bitch. I’m in.

[MultiTroll]

There’s a major problem when you get cut in order for your team to sign Krazy Kai.
People were cut from the Spurs so Bryn Bryn Forms could start 151 of 152 games.

Not saying Primo will make it, just sayin getting cut does not always mean you suck.

[exstatic]

People were cut from the Spurs so Bryn Bryn Forms could start 151 of 152 games.

Not saying Primo will make it, just sayin getting cut does not always mean you suck.

The guy who got cut for Forbes is tearing it up now…in China.

[mystargtr34]

Apparently primo has a stress fracture in the navicular bone in the foot.

[MultiTroll]

The guy who got cut for Forbes is tearing it up now…in China.
More then one guy.

BTW where is Bryn Bryn now?
Fully developed no doubt.

[exstatic]

More then one guy.

BTW where is Bryn Bryn now?
Fully developed no doubt.

Who cares? You’re the only one still obsessing over Forbes. Only one person was ever actually cut so that Forbes would make the team: Jimmer Fredette.

[sfernald]

Is he better than Wesley?

[CGD]

He would have been the starting PG on this year’s team tbh.

[Atl Spur]

Are we still obsessing over Primo? He sucks yada yada:) He paved the way for Wemby, so hooray for the mis steps prior to our new franchise player being drafted! Thanks Patfo ….

[KingKev]

Just thinking that a Josh Primo, Grady Dick jersey swap would be funny on so many levels.

[Ariel]

Just thinking that a Josh Primo, Grady Dick jersey swap would be funny on so many levels.
Still not topping this :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfcosRFt_kI

[KingKev]

Still not topping this :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfcosRFt_kI


Rolando Blackman would make for a good one. Nass Little also :lmao

[baseline bum]

Rolando Blackman would make for a good one. Nass Little also :lmao

Purvis Short, John Long, Jerome Whitehead, Rudy Gay, Wesley Cox

[baseline bum]

Still not topping this :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfcosRFt_kI

ROFL at just needing a Jalen Suggs jersey on the left :lmao

[KingKev]

Cam Reddish and Cam Payne need one too!

[dbestpro]

Alfredric Hughes is thankful for Josh Primo.

[buttsR4rebounding]

How about when the Grizzleys drafted Kevin Love in 2008. Rudy Gay was on the team. The ever so brief Gay Love era...

[Ariel]

How about when the Grizzleys drafted Kevin Love in 2008. Rudy Gay was on the team. The ever so brief Gay Love era...
Last year Orlando had taken Black at 6 and also had 11, where they ended up taken Jett Howard over Gradey Dick even though the latter was the more accomplished shooter which is what they ultimately needed. I wonder if on some subconscious level avoiding the whole Suggs Black Dick memes had any part ot it.