Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[cd98]

Something to do with gambling perhaps? Sharing inside information? Fucking strange stuff...

Point shaving could do it.

[SpaceCowboy]

I honestly need to know.

[tbdog]

My eyes are glued to my phone trying to find wtf happened.

[J_Paco]

if this convo isn’t the definition of the peanut gallery I don’t know what is.

He obviously fucked up. This franchise holds players to the strictest level of accountability. Primo was probably never this promising player most here envisioned here anyways but this should be a reminder of where PATFO may have faults of their own.

Lastly, he’s not important enough for real NBA journalist’s to actually investigate or give AF. We might never know what went down because in reality it’s a rounding error and he was a reach of a pick to begin with.

My goodness, I can't believe I'm finally agreeing with you on something.

People were complaining on end that the kid was a reach, the team has (possibly prematurely or with reason) decided to move on and we have other players of similar size/position in thr pipeline (Branham and Wesley).

Yet, here we are acting like this kid was the second coming and the team totally screwed up. He was likely the one that fucked up and we'll have to see how bad it is.

[spurs1990]

Timvp reports that they were high on him just a few days ago. That Duncan himself is puzzled. Primo is the most wholesome guy they’ve had in a history of wholesome guys.

The sheer mystery of this move overshadows the basketball implications which itself is significant. They jettisoned what looked to be a co-franchise anchor in the making alongside Johnson.

[gospursgojas]

Prob never got his green card. Fucking illegals. Build the wall already.

[cjw]

Under what conditions can Spurs claw back that third year guaranteed money (and get the cap space back)?

[timvp]

Nobody knows nothin' :wow

[BackHome]

Yeah the quote doesn't match anything that would lend to serious criminal activity it just doesn't make sense???

[RC_Drunkford]

Nobody knows nothin' :wow

very strange

[manufan10]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/rTLjwB6zOxV9S/giphy.gif

[objective]

Under what conditions can Spurs claw back that third year guaranteed money (and get the cap space back)?

Pretty sure it's zero because they're already placed him on waivers

[Atl Spur]

Disagree on the valuable part, he never looked like shit.

Never is strong…. You feeling yo self��. I expected better from you but oh well! You do realize he played for your team whether he was trash or great right?

[baseline bum]

Never is strong…. You feeling yo self��. I expected better from you but oh well! You do realize he played for your team whether he was trash or great right?

He was a scrub

[emanueldavidginobili]

Point shaving could do it.
That young cat probably doesn't even know what a spread is lol.

[objective]

I really hope this wasn't Pop throwing his weight around over something stupid. "Oh, you didn't clean your room? Guess what? I just the away your PS5 and I'm taking you to be placed in foster care! You had your chance! You had your chance!"

[exstatic]

They wouldn't keep that under wraps.

My guess is statutory rape.

My guess would be that, or hard core DV.

[BillMc]

Nobody knows nothin' :wow

If for some reason he had an issue and asked to be waived, would this explain it? (Not that I can imagine why he'd do that....) Surely, the Spurs WOULD NOT accomodate that request.

[toki9]

Nobody knows nothin' :wow

could it be something medical, so nobody can say anything at all?

[Dverde]

You've got to be fucking kidding me. There better be a REALLY GOOD fucking reason for this shit.

We all know there is a good reason. It’s something bad and it’s outside basketball. Best case is he just doesn’t want to play anymore.

[Leetonidas]

Lol the people on Reddit are fucking dumb. legit talking about maybe he killed someone:lol that's just dumb. James.Bouknight is no one in a small market and he was passed out drunk in his car with a gun and that shit was known within a few hours. If primo killed someone we'd probably know by now

[slick'81]

What a colossal bust

[cd98]

If it was a an injury, the tone of the notice by the Spurs would've been different.

[Harry Callahan]

This organization is at a crossroads now. Someone needs to pay for this level of mistake. Did they adequately conduct their due diligence in the first place?

I'm infuriated. The coach will never get fired, this kind of situation calls everything into question.

This entire silo mentality is getting old as well. Cutting this guy and then going on radio silence is not right. The people paying for season tickets deserve an explanation. Hell, I deserve an explanation - I shelled out a couple of hundred bucks to see that Charlotte trainwreck a few days ago.

Pissing away a lottery pick after 18 months is a BIG freaking problem.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

welp...this pretty much put a kibosh on his whole NBA career. wow just wow

[Monostradamus]

:lmao

[Barfunk]

If there's a really great reason for this, then so be it, but if not, this is not Pop and the front office resting on their laurels, it's them abusing it at this point.

[Trainwreck2100]

The people paying for season tickets deserve an explanation.


Not according to the agreement they sign when they buy the ticket

[J_Paco]

He was a scrub

I gotta agree. He didn't really show much of anything over the last year and some change. That could've changed overtime, but that time is over and we gotta hope Branham, Wesley or both show more.

[SpurPadre]

Maybe he's a MAGA idiot?

Seriously though, Avery Johnson punched Malik Rose and he remained on the team. Stephen Jackson was shitcanned when he refused to admit Manu and LDN were better than him. This is really mysterious.

[emanueldavidginobili]

This organization is at a crossroads now. Someone needs to pay for this level of mistake. Did they adequately conduct their due diligence in the first place?

I'm infuriated. The coach will never get fired, this kind of situation calls everything into question.

This entire silo mentality is getting old as well. Cutting this guy and then going on radio silence is not right. The people paying for season tickets deserve an explanation. Hell, I deserve an explanation - I shelled out a couple of hundred bucks to see that Charlotte trainwreck a few days ago.

Pissing away a lottery pick after 18 months is a BIG freaking problem.
Yeah and let's not forget about Luka, the 19th pick in 2019 and the 12 pick in 2020 are both off the team, insanity.

[Atl Spur]

He was a scrub

We straight…. I have no words for you. Be easy

[Atl Spur]

I hope the kid is ok

[siraulo23]

i would lol if its something minor

wtf just happened

[Chinook]

Lol the people on Reddit are fucking dumb. legit talking about maybe he killed someone:lol that's just dumb. James.Bouknight is no one in a small market and he was passed out drunk in his car with a gun and that shit was known within a few hours. If primo killed someone we'd probably know by now

Something like DV or SA would be way more likely, not only because they aren't fucking killing someone but because they are also things that are still dependent on a victim cooperating with police to get arrests and convictions. Or if he did something like pushing Pop or injuring Vassell, it could be a thing the Spurs know he did it but might've waived him in lieu of pressing charges? Still feels that would only come after a pattern of behavior. Kawhi showed the Spurs can actually keep stuff under wraps, but they probalby wouldn't've been so keen in their praise of Primo if he was acting like a Primo donna behind the scenes

[SpurSpike]

The only explanation that makes sense is that he had an injury and the team did an MRI and found something terminal that needs immediate treatment? At that point you waive him and keep silent about it out of respect for Primo and his family?

[objective]

I'm sure Dejounte Murray will have some things to say tonight. Maybe he'll break the news

[timvp]

What we know:

-Primo was highly thought of behind the scenes

-Primo was literally the team's poster boy over the summer. He was trotted out by RC Buford at every opportunity

-The Spurs picked up Primo's $4+ million option two weeks ago

-Primo and his GF's socials are hidden

-Primo missed the last game with a glue injury. That injury checks out though because the previous game he landed hard

-The only suspicious thing about the injury is he wasn't on the injury report the day before the game but then suddenly wasn't able to play in the game. That's not super suspicious, though. If his glute was spasming or wouldn't loosen before the game, that's reasonable he wouldn't play and explain why he wasn't on the injury report previously

-Primo didn't play but was at the game and seemed into it and seemed to be acting normal

-RC's quote would be really odd if it turns out to be something legal ... but, then again, RC can be an odd bird and he could have just copy-and-pasted some boilerplate quote from HR

-Pop delayed his talking to the media before the game by about 45 minutes. During that time, Primo was waived. So obviously the final decision was being made during that time

-Pop won't hint at what it was. Sean Elliott didn't know anything. The Spurs are refusing to even pick up the phone

-Primo is regarded as an extremely high character kid who works hard. His high character and natural leadership skills are basically what the Spurs pointed to when justifying their reach of drafting him at 12. He was projected to be a late first round pick -- at best

-Primo comes off as a very, very confident person. Like Kobe-level of confidence. I don't know how that factors in ... but I guess it might be notable

-Primo has had the same girlfriend since before he was drafted. They have a shared TikTok that was updated three days ago. Again, not sure if this is part of the puzzle

-If you're a conspiracy theorist, it might be notable that RC Buford had the Primo quote and not Brian Wright. Wright is the person most responsible for drafting Primo ... but, yeah, Buford is higher on the totem pole in the organization so that again is unlikely to mean anything

-Even people usually in the know have no idea what happened

Shocking stuff, tbh




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[BillMc]

He wanted to celebrate Columbus Day?

[duncan2k5]

I'm sure he argued about playing time and got cut

[Harry Callahan]

Not according to the agreement they sign when they buy the ticket

You are talking about what exactly?

Some kind of liability release?

I'm talking about the fact that people pay thousands and thousands of dollars every year for season tickets. A situation like this will leave the season ticket holders scratching their heads wondering if anyone over there is actually doing their job and taking care of player acquisition in a responsible way.

Zapping the enthusiasm of the fan base is a big deal - you do understand the concept of goodwill? The organization took a big hit in that area today. It matters! It's a lose lose situation.

[NASpurs]

:cry Let’s be clear homie, my life ain’t your life. Enjoy the attention clown ass dude. That’s all….. :cry

[exstatic]

"It is our hope that in the long run this decision will serve the best interest of both the organization and Joshua" That doesn't seem like he committed some crazy crime, this is bizarre.

It literally says nothing at all, which was their intention, I’m sure.

[slick'81]

Did he pull a kobe in colorado?

[SpurPadre]

Maybe Primo's uncle started acting up?!

[J_Paco]

The only explanation that makes sense is that he had an injury and the team did an MRI and found something terminal that needs immediate treatment? At that point you waive him and keep silent about it out of respect for Primo and his family?

This might be the most plausible scenario, TBH, and the organization wants to respect Primo's privacy by not divulging the details.

[tbdog]

The only explanation that makes sense is that he had an injury and the team did an MRI and found something terminal that needs immediate treatment? At that point you waive him and keep silent about it out of respect for Primo and his family?

Makes more sense than murder.

[objective]

Based on how they've handled things the last few years, I would expect it to be over something petty or avoidable or manageable instead of something felonious. Not saying it's not criminal prison worthy, but screwing things up that were avoidable is what this front office excels at.

[scott]

Not to suggest I have better sources than timvp, but a reporter friend in SA sent me this as we were chatting about Primo:

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/23/woman-critically-injured-after-shooting-outside-downtown-area-convenience-store-sapd-says/

He is playing coy when I asked directly if he has confirmed Primo is connected to this

[emmo]

Has anyone heard from Brent Barry’s wife?

[BillMc]

The only explanation that makes sense is that he had an injury and the team did an MRI and found something terminal that needs immediate treatment? At that point you waive him and keep silent about it out of respect for Primo and his family?


This might be the most plausible scenario, TBH, and the organization wants to respect Primo's privacy by not divulging the details.

Seems possible.

[scott]

Not to suggest I have better sources than timvp, but a reporter friend in SA sent me this as we were chatting about Primo:

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/23/woman-critically-injured-after-shooting-outside-downtown-area-convenience-store-sapd-says/

He is playing coy when I asked directly if he has confirmed Primo is connected to this

Friend just wrote back and said he was just speculating, has nothing to say Primo was involved in this.

[OldMan88]

It’s possible they did a precautionary MRI and found something very serious.

[Spurs9]

This might be the most plausible scenario, TBH, and the organization wants to respect Primo's privacy by not divulging the details.

Why would they waive him to save money with a medical issue? Probably the least plausible theory mentioned in this thread so far.

[objective]

Even a terminal case wouldn't mean they'd cut him. Not like they need roster spots.

[Dejounte]

Uh waiving someone because of something health related is illegal, isn’t it?

[Harry Callahan]

A medical issue does not typically play out like this. Off the court mishaps play out like this - it must be a BIG problem for this type of reaction.

An opportunity to improve the team was completely wasted from just over a year ago.

I'm truly p*ssed off. The team has done some really nice things so far this year - squandering the 2021 draft is an enormous setback.

[SpurPadre]

Maybe it's a Ben Simmons-like scenario where his mental health just can't get him to want to play for a while?

[cd98]

Nah, if the media knew he was a suspect, they would report it.

[SpurPadre]

Uh waiving someone because of something health related is illegal, isn’t it?

It is in California, that's for sure.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Yeah the Spurs aren't cutting him because of medical reasons lol. Caris LeVert got screened when he got traded and they found out he had cancer and he wasn't waived.

[Harry Callahan]

Uh waiving someone because of something health related is illegal, isn’t it?

It would violate the collective bargaining agreement. I doubt it's health related. They would not cut him like this.

[Chinook]

Seems possible.

It's one of the only medical issues that could possible warrant this. But it's more likely the Spurs would keep Primo on the team's insurance and all that and wouldn't waive him unti they have his replacement even if he doesn't need to worry about insurance. Very little upside to waiving a guy so immediately if you still have good relations with them.

[Spurs9]

Not to suggest I have better sources than timvp, but a reporter friend in SA sent me this as we were chatting about Primo:

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/23/woman-critically-injured-after-shooting-outside-downtown-area-convenience-store-sapd-says/

He is playing coy when I asked directly if he has confirmed Primo is connected to this
That was from nearly a week ago, last sat they were in Philly. You need better sources.

[timvp]

Not to suggest I have better sources than timvp, but a reporter friend in SA sent me this as we were chatting about Primo:

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/23/woman-critically-injured-after-shooting-outside-downtown-area-convenience-store-sapd-says/

He is playing coy when I asked directly if he has confirmed Primo is connected to this

Primo was playing basketball in Philadelphia at that time, tbh . . .

[J_Paco]

Maybe they need the roster spot since they literally don't have another PG on the roster. Again, we are all just speculating cause no one is even giving us a small clue.

I'd hope it's a health related issue and decision to move on (for roster reasons) then the worst case scenario of him committing a felony. Or having pulled a Matt Ariza in college and the details are just coming out, now.

[SpurSpike]

Who knows? Perhaps its something aggressive and they need to amputate? idk, this whole thing doesn't make any sense!

[cd98]

Uh waiving someone because of something health related is illegal, isn’t it?

It's not illegal. It might break a collective bargaining agreement, but I doubt it. I think teams can waive any player for any reason, but you wouldn't normally do it because of the money and especially if it is a young player who could have yielded a draft pick or some kind of compensation. To waive him is to say that he was not worth even trying to trade.

Highly doubt its an injury. I mean how many injuries are there that don't get better and if it was terminal illness, the announcement sounds nothing like that. The announcement sounds like a "better if we go our separate ways."

[BillMc]

Blake's rookie season just got more impactful.

As I said on Primo if it were something involving a crime, they'd suspend him and wait for it to play out legally. Could he have done something that would bring legal action? (Bring a gun or drugs to his locker?) Not that this seems like Primo by rep.

[objective]

Even if there was some other shooting where he was in the same vehicle as the perps, that's probably not enough. Ray Lewis got his Jack the Ripper on and never got cut.

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong friends might not be enough to be this immediate.

If there isn't something on video then I don't know

[Spurs9]

Based on how Pop responded to reporters definitely doesn’t indicate a injury or medical issue. I’m assuming we will find out next week.

[Mugen]

Maybe they need the roster spot since they literally don't have another PG on the roster. Again, we are all just speculating cause no one is even giving us a small clue.

I'd hope it's a health related issue and decision to move on (for roster reasons) then the worst case scenario of him committing a felony. Or having pulled a Matt Ariza in college and the details are just coming out, now.

:lol This is my vote for stupidest explanation yet followed closely by him having a terminal illness tbh

[cd98]

Drugs? SJAX admitted that he played games stoned. I don't see it. I think they would focus on getting him help, not waiving him.

And a gun? Doubt that would get him waived unless he was threatening to shoot everyone. I just don't see that either.

[Chinook]

It would violate the collective bargaining agreement. I doubt it's health related. They would not cut him like this.

You can cut someone for whatever reason if you're giving them their guaranteed salary. Cutting a player isn't the same as firing a regular employee. If Primo were to have some issue that he caused doing non-sanctioned things, they wouldn't even have to pay him. But if he's receiving the balance of his contract, then I don't think he'd have anything to complain about.

[cd98]

Yes they waived him to make room for Westbrook as the starting point guard.

[baseline bum]

Uh waiving someone because of something health related is illegal, isn’t it?


It would violate the collective bargaining agreement. I doubt it's health related. They would not cut him like this.

That doesn't make much sense. You can surely waive a guy for blowing out his knee for example.

[timvp]

I can't imagine it's something health-related. That wouldn't make sense. That's not how it'd be handled.

If it's a super serious crime, I also don't know if you waive him because wouldn't his contract be voided? By waiving him you basically give up hope of clawing back money.

If it was something like he really wanted to start or was being a terrible teammate -- could circumstances change so much in two weeks that you go from picking up a team option to waiving a 19-year-old?

Eh, I feel dirty even speculating on this stuff. Hopefully the kid is okay, tbh.

[offset formation]

This might be the most plausible scenario, TBH, and the organization wants to respect Primo's privacy by not divulging the details.

Doubtful Spurs would waive him under that scenario. I'd bet they'd keep his spot open at least through this season.

[flox]

Eh, I feel dirty even speculating on this stuff. Hopefully the kid is okay, tbh.
Given everything we know publicly, me too.

[ismael-robert]

14 pgs of repetitive speculation...can we just post if we have something lucrative to add perhaps

[slick'81]

Its definitely serious to just out right cut the dude

[scott]

Drugs? SJAX admitted that he played games stoned. I don't see it. I think they would focus on getting him help, not waiving him.

And a gun? Doubt that would get him waived unless he was threatening to shoot everyone. I just don't see that either.

Pointing a gun at a teammates head in the locker room while coked out of his mind? That might do it.

[cd98]

I can't imagine it's something health-related. That wouldn't make sense. That's not how it'd be handled.

If it's a super serious crime, I also don't know if you waive him because wouldn't his contract be voided? By waiving him you basically give up hope of clawing back money.

If it was something like he really wanted to start or was being a terrible teammate -- could circumstances change so much in two weeks that you go from picking up a team option to waiving a 19-year-old?

Eh, I feel dirty even speculating on this stuff. Hopefully the kid is okay, tbh.

Right, if he was acting up, they'd send him to ice cold Canada. I think we all feel sad for him. I mean, even if he did something horrible, it would be tragic given he had so many things going for him.

[Russ]

The Spurs are a fairly player-friendly operation.

This was unceremonious and gratuitously humiliating to Primo.

There must be a story here. It will definitely come out soon.

[goliath]

All primo merch has already been removed from the online spurs shop

[ismael-robert]

Let's enjoy the game

[Mugen]

Its definitely serious to just out right cut the dude

For 99% of sports franchises, you'd be correct.

For a boy scout, loser organization that thinks culture and coaching is what was responsible for its historical success, I'm not so sure :lol

I legitimately wouldn't even be surprised if what he did is no worse than what happened with Bougknight recently tbh.

[MultiTroll]

The Spurs are a fairly player-friendly operation.

This was unceremonious and gratuitously humiliating to Primo.

There must be a story here. It will definitely come out soon.
Was this power trippy Grandpas glib way of publicly saying "Butt hurt."


The ailment cited on the league's official injury report was "Left Glute; Soreness."

[timtonymanu]

Uh oh, the resident Sniffer is on full tilt :lol

I need you to spin this so that the PATFO still comes out looking A++++ still :lmao

Atl Spur is such a shitty poster. Throws any homer shit take at the wall and hoping it sticks only to find out said player he was hyping was just average like expected.

[Arcadian]

If there was a crime, wouldn't it be public knowledge? Or it will be soon.

[cjw]

All primo merch has already been removed from the online spurs shop

This all but confirms it’s criminal or at that level. Teams sell crap of players who left at a discount all the time on their stores. Heck, you can still buy a Wentz Eagles jersey online as one example.

[Russ]

Primo and Wieskamp -- maybe not the Spurs' best draft class.

[Leetonidas]

All primo merch has already been removed from the online spurs shop

Yikes...he definitely fucked up

[emanueldavidginobili]

Yeah I have no idea what to expect, it's not like he's an inner city kid with priors or anything. This kid has been a stand up respectful professional since he got drafted. I really hope he didn't take his first two shots of tequila ever and do something stupid

[Chomag]

Just up and waive a 12th pick on his second year?? How retarded can this franchise be??

[mo7888]

Watching this game (which is competitive) Pop looks like he's been punched in the gut...just doesn't look like himself..

[Spurs9]

If there was a crime, wouldn't it be public knowledge? Or it will be soon.
Any arrest records in the last day would show up next week. I assume someone would have broken a story if he was arrested previously though.

[lefty20]

If there was a crime, wouldn't it be public knowledge? Or it will be soon.

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Gotta be something with his GF. Dudes making the kind of bank he is by 19 tend to have over-inflated egos.

My first and only speculation -- Perhaps GF finds out he's cheating on her or has a kid with another woman...which would be very easy for a multi-millioaire 19 year old with multiple options. She threatens to tell Spurs management or post something bad about him and he threatens her (or perhaps worse) in texts. Rather than going to the police, she sends it to Spurs who release him based on the possible physical threat that goes against what they thought they knew about the kid.

That would fit the Spurs statement and also explain why there's no known police report or arrest. Best guess for the known facts including the sudden turn of events and Spurs extending him.

[exstatic]

Even if there was some other shooting where he was in the same vehicle as the perps, that's probably not enough. Ray Lewis got his Jack the Ripper on and never got cut.

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong friends might not be enough to be this immediate.

If there isn't something on video then I don't know

Being involved in anything like that would be an instant waive by SA. That’s accessory to murder, maybe even murder. You don’t have to pull the trigger to be charged with murder. I don’t care what happens in the NFL. That shit won’t play SA.

[cd98]

Gotta be something with his GF. Dudes making the kind of bank he is by 19 tend to have over-inflated egos.

My first and only speculation -- Perhaps GF finds out he's cheating on her or has a kid with another woman...which would be very easy for a multi-millioaire 19 year old with multiple options. She threatens to tell Spurs management or post something bad about him and he threatens her (or perhaps worse) in texts. Rather than going to the police, she sends it to Spurs who release him based on the possible physical threat that goes against what they thought they knew about the kid.

That would fit the Spurs statement and also explain why there's no known police report or arrest. Best guess for the known facts including the sudden turn of events and Spurs extending him.

No, because they could work around that and trade him. It's got to be something that would get in the public and tarnish their image. Domestic stuff that doens't involve actual violence is just not likely to get someone waived immediately.

[Dejounte]

Primo’s been removed from spurs IG photos, I think

they dont just remove photos of ex Spurs like that

[SpurSpike]

Maybe he is a closet psycho?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-zSJljpKNc

[timtonymanu]

PATFO can't catch a break anymore. They must be having PTSD with all these players exiting the way they do.

[FkLA]

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[SpurPadre]

Just up and waive a 12th pick on his second year?? How retarded can this franchise be??

I don't like that they don't give a fuck about getting Wembanyama but this is different. They wouldn't do this without careful thought. Whatever we find out eventually, and we will, it'll turn out to have been a justified decision by PATFO.

[slick'81]

PATFO can't catch a break anymore. They must be having PTSD with all these players exiting the way they do.


seriously,spurs cant catch a break

[scott]

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While this is probably technically true, I assume reporters in SA have enough connections with SAPD or the DA that something would have leaked by now.

[baseline bum]

This all but confirms it’s criminal or at that level. Teams sell crap of players who left at a discount all the time on their stores. Heck, you can still buy a Wentz Eagles jersey online as one example.

Yeah this definitely makes it sound criminal, because the official Spurs team shop has jerseys from Jordan Hall, Lonnie Walker, Alize Johnson, and Derrick White still so being waived or traded doesn't get you pulled from the store.

[offset formation]

No, because they could work around that and trade him. It's got to be something that would get in the public and tarnish their image. Domestic stuff that doens't involve actual violence is just not likely to get someone waived immediately.

Meh...True they could but perhaps the circumstances are such that they figured he would be hard to trade and didn't want the organization to be mired in a domestic situation while a trade and or legal situation was worked out.

[Spurs9]

Gotta be something with his GF. Dudes making the kind of bank he is by 19 tend to have over-inflated egos.

My first and only speculation -- Perhaps GF finds out he's cheating on her or has a kid with another woman...which would be very easy for a multi-millioaire 19 year old with multiple options. She threatens to tell Spurs management or post something bad about him and he threatens her (or perhaps worse) in texts. Rather than going to the police, she sends it to Spurs who release him based on the possible physical threat that goes against what they thought they knew about the kid.

That would fit the Spurs statement and also explain why there's no known police report or arrest. Best guess for the known facts including the sudden turn of events and Spurs extending him.
That’s plausible. Both of the accounts went private, Are they still following each other?

[TekXX]

I doubt it was a major crime since the spurs sorta wished him well.

[cd98]

If it's something bad and newsworthy, why even bother trying to keep it all secret for the weekend? Once the news is out, if it is bad, it will get lots of media attention, at least local media attention.

[BatManu20]

Wtf. This was Primo’s decision. What a plot twist.

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[scott]

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[slick'81]

Spurs literally gushed about the dudes character. Definitely confusing af

[TekXX]

We know these professional leagues don't give a shit if you threaten a woman or beat a woman, so he'll be scooped up quickly.

[Spurs9]

Shared tiktok is still up with his gf https://www.tiktok.com/@sophiaandjoshh

[baseline bum]

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Still doesn't make sense, why would they cut him with two years on his deal.

[scott]

From his statement... sounds like maybe dude just legit quit?

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Primo’s been removed from spurs IG photos, I think

they dont just remove photos of ex Spurs like that

With this and the merch post I'm speculative on this must involve a minor. And the evidence is so obvious that they want no traces to him.whatelse can warrant all this?

[lefty20]

That statement just makes things more confusing

[BatManu20]

Sounds like another potential Lonnie situation tbh, only worse.

[tmtcsc]

Just saw this: https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/730775e4-3e64-42ce-9cad-5dbf18b69f68

[objective]

Even a mental health trauma related issue could have just had him sit out the season. They would bend over backwards to help.

It doesn't make any sense.

[baseline bum]

From his statement... sounds like maybe dude just legit quit?

Why would you waive him then?

[TekXX]

Oh lord he has an uncle!

[jeebus]

Still doesn't make sense, why would they cut him with two years on his deal.

Royce White 2.0

[BillMc]

1586180446873743362

Maybe the poor kid just has somesort of anxiety issues.

[cd98]

Right, Calvin Ridley didn't get waived and that's easier to do in the NFL. DDR has admitted to having mental health issues and he was never waived. I mean who could have more trauma than Lonnie Walker and he didn't get waived. I guess if it is a mental thing, then it is his private business. If he broke a criminal statute, then it will be public knowledge soon enough. But the clandestine way this was handled will beg media scrutiny.

[Ditty]

At least we know he isn’t a criminal

[emanueldavidginobili]

Nah still doesnt make sense. They didn't erased him off instagram because he has mental health issues.

[Spurs9]

Maybe he asked to be released?

[SpurSpike]

The Spurs realized he was missing home a bit too much and said fuck this we've dealt with this before and dropped his ass?

[cd98]

Maybe the poor kid just has somesort of anxiety issues.

The twisties?

[TekXX]

So do we think this is not the reason and that there is "character issues", i doubt Primo openly admits any misdeeds.

[BWS-1994]

Who was the former Bucks center who also quit despite his potential and due to possible mental health problems?

[SPURt]

They wouldn’t waive him if he tried to kill himself right?

[cd98]

Must've been a major red flag for the Spurs to waive him. It may be mental health, but often when public figures have done something wrong, they go back to trauma and mental health to escape some of the scrutiny.

[lmbebo]

Can't believe its purely a mental health issue. Even if cut at his request, wouldn't come off like this...

So confusing...

[aksyunstar]

just woke up to this news what the fck???

this has got to be the most shocking spurs news ive seen as a fan

[objective]

What possible trauma and mental health issue would have them take his gear down immediately?

I mean, even if he's at the age where schizophrenia manifests they wouldn't treat him like a criminal.

[timvp]

Oh.

[baseline bum]

Royce White 2.0

The Rockets didn't pay White though.

[InRareForm]

Drugs related? Ricky Williams 2.0?

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1586181737033469953?s=20&t=WA1JfxYRwTeZ5eKXqYgtTQ

[Barfunk]

And also hope it's not yet another player that wanted a way out of the Spurs. Just hope that this is all legitimate, aside from some sort of SERIOUS crime, murder, etc. of course.

[Spurs9]

Sounds like he’s trying to get ahead of the real story that will drop in coming days

[Arcadian]

seriously,spurs cant catch a break

The karmic forces in the universe are balancing out our insane luck to have drafted David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

[baseline bum]

Oh.

Umm what?

[Kori Ellis]

Pure speculation: Maybe his trauma/mental health issues led him to have conduct that was detrimental to the organization. Therefore, the Spurs had to waive him, but also wish him the best in getting help (which is basically what RC's statement said). I will not speculate as to what that conduct could have been.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Pop is the last guy to waive someone for mental health problems unless he was approached and asked to be released from that player.

[SpurPadre]

Royce White 2.0

Or Ben Simmons 2.0.

[cd98]

I mean this is just crazy. Hope it's not some kind of Sandusky thing. I don't think it is murder or anything on that level. It would have to be something violent or something sexual or a combination of the two.

[Arcadian]

Drugs related? Ricky Williams 2.0?

Ricky was just a pothead. Does the NBA even care about weed?

[bluebellmaniac]

The only explanation that makes sense is that he had an injury and the team did an MRI and found something terminal that needs immediate treatment? At that point you waive him and keep silent about it out of respect for Primo and his family?

So you think the only explanation is that he has something horribly wrong with him and so we immediately cut him so as to be without insurance or an organization to back him up in his dire need? That's your "only explanation"? That we are.the crappiest, heartless organization out there? WTF are you on?

[Dejounte]

I’m thinking he did something anger management related

[goliath]

If it were mental health reasons, I don't see why the Spurs waive him. If he quit, let him retire and don't pay him. Or work on a buyout.

As for it not being criminal because there are no Bexar County records, there likely wouldn't be. A lot of times with serious cases, high profile cases, or cases involving well known public figures, the DA will seal the investigation so there is no public record. They won't unseal the records until the investigation is complete or even until the grand jury indicts the case. If any Spur was involved in a high profile case, unless they were caught in the act, I bet the case would be sealed until it was indicted. DA wouldn't want it to get out that a Spur was under investigation, have all the media coverage, complete the investigation, decide not to proceed and then be like oops sorry.

[timtonymanu]

Also lol Murray still chirping away. It's okay to have personal issues with the team but to keep running his mouth any time the organization is in heat just shows how much of a baby he is. Go stalk your ex girlfriend on instagram with a burner account, bitch boy! :lol

[RD2191]

Nah, something ain't right here. I have a feeling this dude confessed some crazy shit to a teammate or someone in the organization found/saw some sketchy ass shit on his laptop/phone or something. (You can take a guess as to what.)

[cd98]

I mean this is just crazy. Hope it's not some kind of Sandusky thing. I don't think it is murder or anything on that level. It would have to be something violent or something sexual or a combination of the two. I mean that it would have to be something violent or sexual if it was such a quick waiver. But obviously, I'm wildly speculating.

[InRareForm]

This is going to be a long weekend

[heyheymymy]

my guess: suicide attempt from stress of career. he is so young under a limelight it seems intense

does not sound criminal from the vibe of primo's comment.

get well soon primo sending lots of love man and believe me we all understand mental health issues for sure.

[offset formation]

Maybe he asked to be released?

After accepting his 3rd year option to be picked up?

[timtonymanu]

I mean I hope the kid is okay but jesus they could have done better with this pick two years ago like we thought.

[gambit1990]

it's neither drug related nor physical injury / terminal illness.

[offset formation]

Oh.

Neph Drama 2.0.

Guessing we have to wait 25 years after all involved have passed like JFK to get the details.

[SpurPadre]

Also lol Murray still chirping away. It's okay to have personal issues with the team but to keep running his mouth any time the organization is in heat just shows how much of a baby he is. Go stalk your ex girlfriend on instagram with a burner account, bitch boy! :lol

I haven't kept tabs on him since he left. I didn't know he's been talking shit about the team. What's he been saying?

[objective]

If he really wants to take time to work on himself and step away from basketball then he'll tell teams not to take him off waivers and he won't sign a deal right away

[baseline bum]

my guess: suicide attempt from stress of career. he is so young under a limelight it seems intense

does not sound criminal from the vibe of primo's comment.

get well soon primo sending lots of love man and believe me we all understand mental health issues for sure.

God I would hope they wouldn't cut him over something like that.

[OldMan88]

Failure to disclose pre-existing condition of serious enough magnitude could cause Spurs to seek to void his contract due to misrepresentation.

[jhfenton]

my guess: suicide attempt from stress of career. he is so young under a limelight it seems intense

does not sound criminal from the vibe of primo's comment.

get well soon primo sending lots of love man and believe me we all understand mental health issues for sure.

If that were it, I can't imagine they would have waived him immediately instead of giving him as much time as he needed.

[cd98]

Yeah, the more I think about it, if he did some moral crime, usually these kind of contracts have an out, especially a rookie contract where the rookie has little negotiating leverage. Why not use the contract out? It is either unrelated to crime or so toxic they had to get rid of him asap.

[offset formation]

Pure speculation: Maybe his trauma/mental health issues led him to have conduct that was detrimental to the organization. Therefore, the Spurs had to waive him, but also wish him the best in getting help (which is basically what RC's statement said). I will not speculate as to what that conduct could have been.

LJ just said Oh...

[PhantomDashCam]

I hope whatever has occurred isn’t irredeemable or life altering beyond repair.

Tragic tbh.

Irrespective of what news transpires in the short term, the SA media can’t allow the Spurs FO to duck and weave their way out of this one in perpetuity.

When you sign multi-million dollar contracts in any capacity, you don’t get the luxury of hiding behind vacuous statements long term…

[Kurik]

my guess: suicide attempt from stress of career. he is so young under a limelight it seems intense

does not sound criminal from the vibe of primo's comment.

get well soon primo sending lots of love man and believe me we all understand mental health issues for sure.

If we all understood, it would be a different world.

[J_Paco]

Who was the former Bucks center who also quit despite his potential and due to possible mental health problems?

Larry Sanders

Also, Royce White (like another poster mentioned) got dropped by the Rockets due in part to mental health issues/being a distraction.

[timtonymanu]

God i hope some bullshit doesn't happen with Sochan. Unlike Walmart Luka and Primo, hes a legit talent from day one.

[objective]

Or Could just be Pop power tripping in his twilight and no one in the org able to take the keys away from him.

If it was like the old rumors of cutting Stephen Jackson because he wouldn't say that someone else was better him.

Hope it's not a Pop-tripping scenario

[Cry Havoc]

I'm actually thinking this is on one of the worst case scenarios.

Simply because the Spurs FO is smart. They KNOW that not announcing anything will lead to a ton of speculation and most of it won't be good.

They made this decision knowing the speculation wouldn't be as damaging as the actual facts of what's happening.

I would guess it's lilely a very serious issue related to crime.

The only thing they might not announce mental health wise is if he made a suicide attempt. But this feels wrong for them to release him so abruptly if that were the case.

My money is on a very dire situation here. This doesn't seem to scan as an organization looking out for their player. They're washing their hands of him, suddenly and publicly. I doubt pop would do that if it were a mental breakdown.

[baseline bum]

I'm actually thinking this is on one of the worst case scenarios.

Simply because the Spurs FO is smart. They KNOW that not announcing anything will lead to a ton of speculation and most of it won't be good.

They made this decision knowing the speculation wouldn't be as damaging as the actual facts of what's happening.

I would guess it's lilely a very serious issue related to crime.

The only thing they might not announce mental health wise is if he made a suicide attempt. But this feels wrong for them to release him so abruptly if that were the case.

My money is on a very dire situation here. This doesn't seem to scan as an organization looking out for their player. They're washing their hands of him, suddenly and publicly. I doubt pop would do that if it were a mental breakdown.

Long time no see. Man you playing Persona 5 Royal on PC? Shit runs 4k60 even on a 1650 Super.

[longhorn]

my guess: suicide attempt from stress of career. he is so young under a limelight it seems intense

does not sound criminal from the vibe of primo's comment.

get well soon primo sending lots of love man and believe me we all understand mental health issues for sure.

You don't waive a guy for being suicidal, and if you do, you sure as shit don't do it abruptly with no comment an hour before tipoff like they did today.

Primo's statement, in combination with how the Spurs handled everything, reads to me like him trying to get out ahead of something.

[BackHome]

That doesn’t jive with the press release if it’s really bad why make the statement they made

[emanueldavidginobili]

You don't waive a guy for being suicidal, and if you do, you sure as shit don't do it abruptly with no comment an hour before tipoff like they did today.

Primo's statement, in combination with how the Spurs handled everything, reads to me like him trying to get out ahead of something.
Absolutely this imo.

[KingKev]

What we know:

-Primo was highly thought of behind the scenes

-Primo was literally the team's poster boy over the summer. He was trotted out by RC Buford at every opportunity

-The Spurs picked up Primo's $4+ million option two weeks ago

-Primo and his GF's socials are hidden

-Primo missed the last game with a glue injury. That injury checks out though because the previous game he landed hard

-The only suspicious thing about the injury is he wasn't on the injury report the day before the game but then suddenly wasn't able to play in the game. That's not super suspicious, though. If his glute was spasming or wouldn't loosen before the game, that's reasonable he wouldn't play and explain why he wasn't on the injury report previously

-Primo didn't play but was at the game and seemed into it and seemed to be acting normal

-RC's quote would be really odd if it turns out to be something legal ... but, then again, RC can be an odd bird and he could have just copy-and-pasted some boilerplate quote from HR

-Pop delayed his talking to the media before the game by about 45 minutes. During that time, Primo was waived. So obviously the final decision was being made during that time

-Pop won't hint at what it was. Sean Elliott didn't know anything. The Spurs are refusing to even pick up the phone

-Primo is regarded as an extremely high character kid who works hard. His high character and natural leadership skills are basically what the Spurs pointed to when justifying their reach of drafting him at 12. He was projected to be a late first round pick -- at best

-Primo comes off as a very, very confident person. Like Kobe-level of confidence. I don't know how that factors in ... but I guess it might be notable

-Primo has had the same girlfriend since before he was drafted. They have a shared TikTok that was updated three days ago. Again, not sure if this is part of the puzzle

-If you're a conspiracy theorist, it might be notable that RC Buford had the Primo quote and not Brian Wright. Wright is the person most responsible for drafting Primo ... but, yeah, Buford is higher on the totem pole in the organization so that again is unlikely to mean anything

-Even people usually in the know have no idea what happened

Shocking stuff, tbh




:wow

You forgot Primo actually isn’t that good.

[Kurik]

Removing all evidence of him means something bad.

[goliath]

The Spurs press release read to me like they were trying to get out ahead of something. What are they suppose to say "We're cutting him bc a felony indictment for a serious crime is coming down"?

What's Primos suppose to say? "I haven't been charged with anything and the Spurs haven't said anything but Im likely going to be charged with xyz?"

If it were mental health I don't see them waiving him. Even if he asked to be waived, I don't see it. They would keep him and help him get help or try to trade him.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah you don't waive a guy and want nothing to do with him if he was being suicidal. Spurs would have just shut him down indefinitely and kept it at that.

[Trainwreck2100]

That doesn’t jive with the press release if it’s really bad why make the statement they made

that statement was at most neutral and you can gain something from that, because they didn't even wish him the best, they just said it was best for the organization

[Cry Havoc]

Long time no see. Man you playing Persona 5 Royal on PC? Shit runs 4k60 even on a 1650 Super.

Definitely looks like a perfect game for my steam deck.

Currently building a sim racing rig. Cockpit gets here tomorrow or Monday.

How you been?

[timvp]

I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.

I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.

Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.

[timvp]

I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.

I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.

Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.

[superbigtime]

Nothing can justify this

[objective]

No way there was a suicidal aspect to this. Waiving him taking away the only support structure he has in a foreign country as a teenager seems like it would be a very dangerous trigger event and people would blame SA if anything did end up happening

[playbonner15]

wtf this is so random...

[ginobilized]

So strange, sad and incredibly unfortunate for the Spurs and Primo. One of the most shocking items that I can recall in the NBA,
Primo's statement reads to me like he has done something very serious, as does the Spurs reaction and blurb. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
I hope Primo's life will be improved from working on his mental health.
What bad luck for the Spurs.

[emanueldavidginobili]

A good amount on this forum used to call DeMar, DeMar Depression and he wasn't waived lol and he's clearly been throughout a lot in his life.

[offset formation]

It's either a sexual situation or an anger issue situation based on his statement.

Relating directly to his statement:
1. If he claims he was molested as a youth and then perpetrated a similar offense or eas caught with sexual material of a minor, that jives with his statement
2. If he claims he was abused physically as a child and then was caught either threatening or actually harming someone (like his GF) that would also jive with his statement.

Either of those make logical sense based on the new facts from his statement. I still think this somehow or another involves his GF in some way shape or form.

Also depending on the reporting party and to whom it was reported or discovered by, it would make sense for the Spurs to have taken the actions they did even without a police report that so many think is on the horizon.

[Russ]

Pop will be asked about this post-game.

[heyheymymy]

I'm thinking Primo asked to be released moreso than the team like kicking him out. Like he was waived as a favor or per his request/preference not as a punishment from the org.

If it's a suicide attempt, primo might prefer to be freed from his contractual obligations to take time for himself to address his mental heath.

[Dejounte]

I'm thinking Primo asked to be released moreso than the team like kicking him out. Like he was waived as a favor or per his request/preference not as a punishment from the org.

If it's a suicide attempt, primo might prefer to be freed from his contractual obligations to take time for himself to address his mental heath.
They still dont wipe everything they had of Primo if it was truly your scenario

[KingKev]

Should PATFO be held accountable for grooming minors? That shit can fk a child upppp.

[Arcadian]

Nah, something ain't right here. I have a feeling this dude confessed some crazy shit to a teammate or someone in the organization found/saw some sketchy ass shit on his laptop/phone or something. (You can take a guess as to what.)

Maybe he fucked a 17 year-old.

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/projectspurs/status/1586184865200082944?s=20&t=l-IK-vq8NkBRqO77FqIaiA

Why

[tbdog]

Considering we have paid him for next season. Sit out the season and take it from there. To waive him? Must be more to it.

[J_Paco]

On the bright side, Blake Wesley looked good in his first real minutes in a NBA game.

It sucks to pretty much dump the entire 2021 draft out the window, but again I think Wesley (as a lead/combo guard) and Branham (as a shooter) are better prospects.

And I definitely think Primo's statement comes across as someone trying to get in front of a scandal.

[BackHome]

Primo released a statement kinda reads like he is dealing with past mental health trauma ie. Lonnie Walker - I am guessing but his camp statement reads like something from past so either mental trauma or drug issue - But glad no dead bodies and Kerr wife is OK.

[lefty20]

This team kinda reminds me of that Celtics group a few years ago with IT, young Tatum and Brown.

Edit : Fuck! Wrong thread.

[goliath]

The Spurs have pulled all their Primo merchandise. By all accounts, they didn't try to shop and trade him. They didn't tell him to take a leave of absence. It looks to me like they are trying to remove all connections and associations to him. That doesn't point toward a mental health / suicidal issue.

[objective]

If he asked to be released wouldn't his statement have thanked the Spurs for accommodating him?

[CGD]

I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.

I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.

Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.

Any intel on whether Vassell is caught up in this some how? Hope not.

[offset formation]

On the bright side, Blake Wesley looked good in his first real minutes in a NBA game.

It sucks to pretty much dump the entire 2021 draft out the window, but again I think Wesley (as a lead/combo guard) and Branham (as a shooter) are better prospects.

And I definitely think Primo's statement comes across as someone trying to get in front of a scandal.

Not pretty much. It's like we didn't have a 2021 draft in 2022. A-fucking-mazing.

[baseline bum]

I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.

I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.

Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.

Caught with cheese pizza?

[heyheymymy]

but shit yeah even that suicide theory doesn't really overlap well. This is such a bizarre mystery. Primo himself mentions mental health in his statement also mentioning privacy at this time. At this time it doesn't seem like a criminal or abuse incident. I suppose if it was domestic violence his girl could've declined to press charges and then that would be abuse without any paper trail. Suppose Primo could still be the bad guy here so I reserve judgment.

But his statement makes it sound like a mental collapse which is why I think it was a suicide attempt. Lines up well with the beginning of the season with a tall ask from the coaches and the pressures of the big stage at that young an age? Stress is one hell of a trip.

But yeah, I'm at a loss here. It's sudden and inexplicable.

[ducks]

Pop’s refusal to comment makes me think something happened. Tf could boy-scout Primo have done though tbh? Dude must’ve secretly been a drug lord something.

1586139556205584385



Probly does not like the economy under Biden

But if it is not that
Hope he gets the help he needs
He Did not need to get waived though

[Spurs9]

If he asked to be released wouldn't his statement have thanked the Spurs for accommodating him?
Yeah, it reeks of a huge story that will drop. I’m sad this had to be Primo, I had high hopes for him. At least we still have Sochan.

[baseline bum]

Definitely looks like a perfect game for my steam deck.

Currently building a sim racing rig. Cockpit gets here tomorrow or Monday.

How you been?

Should be great handheld. Loved playing P4G handheld in English, though was hard to read the kanji playing in Japanese at 540p on the Vita.

[Chomag]

Did he tell Pop that he is not a pg?

All kidding and speculation aside, this is so odd. If it's a mental issue most likely the Spurs would put him on a leave of absence not waive him.

[Trainwreck2100]

I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.

I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.

Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.

If it is what you think it is, and what I think it is(my opinion not based off any insider info) gambling on the team, is the only clean way out of this.

[Devi8or]

This is all pretty crazy

Anyone think it could be gambling on Spurs games? I would hope it's something like this rather than something like DV or a more serious crime

[offset formation]

but shit yeah even that suicide theory doesn't really overlap well. This is such a bizarre mystery. Primo himself mentions mental health in his statement also mentioning privacy at this time. At this time it doesn't seem like a criminal or abuse incident. I suppose if it was domestic violence his girl could've declined to press charges and then that would be abuse without any paper trail. Suppose Primo could still be the bad guy here so I reserve judgment.

But his statement makes it sound like a mental collapse which is why I think it was a suicide attempt. Lines up well with the beginning of the season with a tall ask from the coaches and the pressures of the big stage at that young an age? Stress is one hell of a trip.

But yeah, I'm at a loss here. It's sudden and inexplicable.

Key to remember his name and likeness are all but gone as a Spur within hours of this. That's not a mental health collapse. It's almost assuredly a potential or pending criminal issue.

[Devi8or]

If it is what you think it is, and what I think it is(my opinion not based off any insider info) gambling on the team, is the only clean way out of this.

LOL we literally posted this at the same time... Way too steal my first post thunder lol.....back to lurking!

[emanueldavidginobili]

At the end of the day he flat out quit and also told the team to wipe his existence or he did something terrible. Pop isn’t going to waive a player he raved about his confidence and maturity when he was 18 years old unless them two sat down and Primo said he was done. But even if that happened I feel like Pop would be able to convince him to take a year off and see where he’s at after a year instead of just cutting ties. Again he was on the bench cheering them on 48 hours ago.

[goliath]

If Primo asked for a release, I would think the Spurs would have put that they were honoring Primos request in their statement. I would think Primos statement would have thanked the Spurs for honoring his request.

I don't see the Spurs waiving him for a suicide attempt.

I don't see the Spurs waiving him for a drug case or a domestic violence case.

I don't see the Spurs pulling all his merchandise immediately after waiving him for any of the above.

It looks to me that the Spurs are getting ahead of something. And whatever they are getting ahead of, they didn't want the stories to say Spurs guard Joshua Primo in them

[scott]

I think the theory that his statement is getting ahead of some bad news coming is likely the right one.

[Kurik]

Gambling at 19 seems crazy but maybe? I feel like he would still be on the team even if there was a 1 year suspension.

[offset formation]

If it is what you think it is, and what I think it is(my opinion not based off any insider info) gambling on the team, is the only clean way out of this.

Gambling would likely not relate to a long standing trauma from his past...doesnt make sense.

[TekXX]

Why are so many reaching for a suicide attempt? I can think of 100 things before suicide attempt and the Spurs wouldn't handle the situation like this if it was that. Primo obviously did something the Spurs want no part of and Primo is reaching for the mental health card to deflect from whatever he did.

[Chomag]

Gambling would still be more a team suspension

[baseline bum]

Why are so many reaching for a suicide attempt? I can think of 100 things before suicide attempt and the Spurs wouldn't handle the situation like this if it was that. Primo obviously did something the Spurs want no part of and Primo is reaching for the mental health card to deflect from whatever he did.

Probably because he talked about mental health to ESPN

[heyheymymy]

Underage drinking?

Fight with Vassell during practice that hurt Vass?

Leaking Spurs tank intel to Adam Silver?

[J_Paco]

Not pretty much. It's like we didn't have a 2021 draft in 2022. A-fucking-mazing.

Sorry that my phrasing bothered you. LOL

Point is its a bummer to lost out on a draft class entirely, sure, but Joe was a fringe talent (who's one skill didn't materialize) and Josh seems to ended his own career prematurely.

Again, it sucks ass and I agree that picking the "safer" pick in Sengun should've been the move. But that bridge has been crossed already and we have three prospects that can likely do what we hoped Sengun & what the Spurs hoped Josh and Joe could.

[Devi8or]

Gambling would likely not relate to a long standing trauma from his past...doesnt make sense.

I mentioned gambling too, but also thought about that mental trauma part, it seems like every scenario has some way of debunking the theory just based on the various statements released between the team and now Primo himself

[GAustex]

Diddling under age girls

Or boys?

[Chomag]

I just hope Vassell isn't wrapped up in this somehow

[exstatic]

Or Could just be Pop power tripping in his twilight and no one in the org able to take the keys away from him.

If it was like the old rumors of cutting Stephen Jackson because he wouldn't say that someone else was better him.

Hope it's not a Pop-tripping scenario

That has been debunked as a smokescreen to cover for the fact that Jack was fucking Amy Duncan.

[heyheymymy]

Caught juicing? Dude went hulk this summer lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Gambling would likely not relate to a long standing trauma from his past...doesnt make sense.

look i'm not saying that's what happened I just said that's their only way to come back from this clean. Maybe an Adrian Peterson situation is clean but I don't think he got a kid.

[goliath]

While the NBA.com store has Branham, Roby, and Bates-diop Spurs jerseys they have no Josh Primo jerseys

[ducks]

Just up and waive a 12th pick on his second year?? How retarded can this franchise be??

Time for new blood
Wtf have they done lately since the last title

[objective]

I'm actually thinking this is on one of the worst case scenarios.

Simply because the Spurs FO is smart.

Well ... Ignoring former glories, should they still be seen as smart?

I don't know how they would deserve that moniker after the last 5 years or so when they've basically been similar to the Knicks and Kings. Some smart things yes, like Keldon. Bringing in Jock as an older overseas ufa. There's more.

But they've also made some weird weird moves. The Kawhi debacle. Wasting time in DeRozan. The Morris-Bertans debacle. The DeMarre Carroll debacle. Guaranteeing Aldridge only to have him quit. Picking Luka. Refusing to name Becky lead assistant despite her having much more experience than everyone else and then not having any designated lead until Brett. Chip running off to an arguably worse team. Bringing back Marco and Bryn to fail more. Refusing to play Murray and White together or more than 24 minutes each until the bubble.

Add whatever the Primo thing is.

I don't know if they should be held in the same esteem they were 10, 15, 20 years ago.

[Chomag]

Caught juicing? Dude went hulk this summer lol

Suspension maybe but to just cut him.? Idk

[offset formation]

Sorry that my phrasing bothered you. LOL

Point is its a bummer to lost out on a draft class entirely, sure, but Joe was a fringe talent (who's one skill didn't materialize) and Josh seems to ended his own career prematurely.

Again, it sucks ass and I agree that picking the "safer" pick in Sengun should've been the move. But that bridge has been crossed already and we have three prospects that can likely do what we hoped Sengun & what the Spurs hoped Josh and Joe could.

Lol, didn't bother me, I was actually kind of just highlighting your point. It's insane that we have neither of our 2021 draft picks, including out lottery pick only 1 year later.

[KobesAchilles]

Was watching the World Series and then I come across this shit. Do I still have to wait to tell if he’s a fucking franchise player for our team? This is the worst draft pick of all time for our team. So to all the Sengun haters, yes I would rather have drafted him over Josh Fucking Primo.

[emmo]

Really hope this has nothing to do with kids.

[Trainwreck2100]

Caught juicing? Dude went hulk this summer lol


that ain't mental health

[Chinook]

For fucks sake, LJ isnt' talking about gambling. He's talking about something much worse.

[exstatic]

Removing all evidence of him means something bad.

That’s the one thing I keep circling back to. Teams don’t do that, like ever.

[baseline bum]

While the NBA.com store has Branham, Roby, and Bates-diop Spurs jerseys they have no Josh Primo jerseys

Pulled off Spurs instagram too.