Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[Dejounte]

There's another issue here -- the Spurs owe their fans some kind of an explanation (even if not a full one).

The Spurs are in a vulnerable position. They're doing surprising well early on but they can't afford trust issues at this point. Arrogance is no longer an acceptable answer.

They are very well aware that people aren't coming to the games.

Incorrect. Attendance is up +1300 from last year so far.

[CapitalEmm]

The kid is 19.


My moneys on it being a Tiger Woods type of situation, but instead of old Dennys waitresses, it was underage girls.


He’s also going to use the TW playbook and frame it as an addiction issue.

Fits all the puzzle pieces.

[KingKev]

Incorrect. Attendance is up +1300 from last year so far.

lol almost year after covid

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lol almost year after covid

They have had what 2 home games and were widely expected, including by Vegas, to suck. It'll be more if we are a .500 team 30 games into the season.

[Leetonidas]

Whatever it was, a little gossipy broad like you will let us know!

:lol.butthurt because your dumb thread got shit on.

Maybe you should go pray some more. That'll totally help!

[Poolboy5623]

Its one thing to reach on a guy 12th overall...but then to dump him a year and a half later with no explanation.... Go Spurs Go

[Atl Spur]

:lol.butthurt because your dumb thread got shit on.

Maybe you should go pray some more. That'll totally help!

The fact prayer means nothing to you is telling…….byeeeeee!

[Leetonidas]

The fact prayer means nothing to you is telling…….byeeeeee!

The fact that you believe in sky wizards and think I give a fuck what some judgmental jeebotard thinks is even more telling:lol I'm sure you can ask sky daddy for help managing your emotions during this very triggering time for you. Lmao

[FutureMan]

Dumb. Jeff’s next tweet:

The following are all mammals:

Lions
Meerkats
Whales
Squirrels
Dog

Sure, they’re all mammals, but each has its own context behind them.


It really is. Because on the flip side you could also do this:

Murray - 4 firsts and an Allstar appearance
White - 1 first and Richardson
Johnson - starter and leader
Vassell - starter and potential MIP candidate
Jones - starter - selected in the second round
Sochan - starter

[BacktoBasics]

This is just a reminder of how many morons, political dickweeds and religious cunts we have on this forum. Give it the rest of the week and this thread should break the top 10 here for most collective stupidity.

[Dejounte]

It really is. Because on the flip side you could also do this:

Murray - 4 firsts and an Allstar appearance
White - 1 first and Richardson
Johnson - starter and leader
Vassell - starter and potential MIP candidate
Jones - starter - selected in the second round
Sochan - starter

Johnson - starter, leader, and an Allstar appearance … by season’s end tbh

[KingKev]

They have had what 2 home games and were widely expected, including by Vegas, to suck. It'll be more if we are a .500 team 30 games into the season.

I don’t think it’ll be materially different but you probably have to normalize these figures or make some form of adjustment for covid.

[Dejounte]

Also

Sochan - all team defense in his rookie year. Let’s gooooooooo

[KingKev]

Everybody going at Atl Spur for his strong/supportive views on Primo but let’s remember he was high on Josh Primo’s basketball skill set and to a lesser extent PATFO’s prowess to draft and develop young talent; whatever went down these last few days doesn’t necessarily confirm he was wrong… hate to use this term but this is obviously bigger than basketball for Primo.

[exstatic]

It seems whatever occurred, it also shocked the Spurs organization. In Primo's statement, he's stated that he was seeking help for a previous trauma and I assume the Spurs were aware of this issue since NBA teams generally do their due diligence. If I were to speculate, it was a suicide attempt. Given his age and the seriousness of such an action, it's the only thing that makes sense and would reconcile with Primo's comments.

They wouldn’t waive him, and remove all of his merch from online stores for a suicide attempt. You’re like the 3rd or 4th idiot to post this.

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Everybody going at Atl Spur for his strong/supportive views on Primo but let’s remember he was high on Josh Primo’s basketball skill set and to a lesser extent PATFO’s prowess to draft and develop young talent; whatever went down these last few days doesn’t necessarily confirm he was wrong… hate to use this term but this is obviously bigger than basketball for Primo.

Nope. Not going after him for that at all...it was the tsk tsk tsk thing he did while being supportive that rubbed peeps the wrong way. And he wasn't the only one.

[KingKev]

They wouldn’t waive him, and remove all of his merch from online stores for a suicide attempt. You’re like the 3rd or 4th idiot to post this.

Yeah you have to think both sides are getting ahead of something here but i’ll qualify that point with this organization sets a very high bar for character and these days they probably have zero tolerance for things that may not even be that nefarious.

Primo was never a good enough prospect for managing any side shows to begin with, however.

[Leetonidas]

Everybody going at Atl Spur for his strong/supportive views on Primo but let’s remember he was high on Josh Primo’s basketball skill set and to a lesser extent PATFO’s prowess to draft and develop young talent; whatever went down these last few days doesn’t necessarily confirm he was wrong… hate to use this term but this is obviously bigger than basketball for Primo.

people are going at him because he's being a dickhead for no reason

[exstatic]

There's another issue here -- the Spurs owe their fans some kind of an explanation (even if not a full one).

The Spurs are in a vulnerable position. They're doing surprising well early on but they can't afford trust issues at this point. Arrogance is no longer an acceptable answer.

They are very well aware that people aren't coming to the games.

That’s not even remotely true. There could also be legal exposure for the Spurs for doing so, depending on what the situation really is.

People need to grow up. You’re not entitled in any way shape or form to be told what happened. We’ll find out what we find out, but considering it basically took 9 years to find out that the real reason Jack was cut was that he was banging Amy Duncan, it could be a while.

[Dejounte]

lol almost year after covid

Two years after COVID. Last year was the year after COVID. Attendance numbers from last year (for every team) look close to what their numbers were pre-COVID.

[Trueblood]

The fact that you believe in sky wizards and think I give a fuck what some judgmental jeebotard thinks is even more telling:lol I'm sure you can ask sky daddy for help managing your emotions during this very triggering time for you. Lmao

You can tell a lot about people based on how the handle issues of belief and faith. Some find comfort in it while others only find joy in trying to destroy someone else's. I'm sorry you feel so strongly against faith. I mean sincerely that I care for you and I will pray for you. I will pray that God can turn your heart, but if He doesn't, that He will at least soften your spirit to those who don't share your beliefs. Blessings friend

[Dejounte]

The mystery behind Primo has brought all types of topics in this thread. What’s next? We gonna talk climate change?

[Leetonidas]

You can tell a lot about people based on how the handle issues of belief and faith. Some find comfort in it while others only find joy in trying to destroy someone else's. I'm sorry you feel so strongly against faith. I mean sincerely that I care for you and I will pray for you. I will pray that God can turn your heart, but if He doesn't, that He will at least soften your spirit to those who don't share your beliefs. Blessings friend

Fuck off with that condescending bullshit. I don't give two shits about your faith or how what nonsense you falsely attribute to those who don't subscribe to your mythology. You jeebotards are fuckin insufferable with that bullshit

[BacktoBasics]

That’s not even remotely true. There could also be legal exposure for the Spurs for doing so, depending on what the situation really is.

People need to grow up. You’re not entitled in any way shape or form to be told what happened. We’ll find out what we find out, but considering it basically took 9 years to find out that the real reason Jack was cut was that he was banging Amy Duncan, it could be a while.

Normally I agree that we're not entitled. I tend to say that over just about anything these days. No ones really entitled to anything.

I got to say though, I feel like this team does owe some kind of explanation when you make such an drastic move just days from picking up his option and praising his long term fit with the franchise. This team is supported heavily by the people and exists at all of ours expense.

There absolutely should be a sense of accountability to the fans.

I don't see telling us one day that he's your franchise and to embrace his high character, salt of the earth pillar of the community persona that they're selling us only to turn around and waive him while expecting us to be completely in the dark.

tbh they owe the fans more than they owe Primo.

[Russ]

That’s not even remotely true. There could also be legal exposure for the Spurs for doing so, depending on what the situation really is.

People need to grow up. You’re not entitled in any way shape or form to be told what happened. We’ll find out what we find out, but considering it basically took 9 years to find out that the real reason Jack was cut was that he was banging Amy Duncan, it could be a while.

You miss the point. Not saying anyone is entitled.

It's in the Spurs' self-interest as business to be as up front as possible (although, of course, the situation may dictate some constraints).

The Jack analogy is inapt -- Jack was a guy the Spurs originally picked up for nothing after he was cut by another team. Primo was a first round pick presented by the Spurs to their fans as a possible centerpiece.

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The mystery behind Primo has brought all types of topics in this thread. What’s next? We gonna talk climate change?

It's getting warmer, and at a faster rate. Man's CO2 emissions are largely responsible. The end.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/x3w24m/this_visualization_on_temperatures_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[Mugen]

If it was a serious crime, that shit would have gotten out by now. I know the organization & its local beat reporters are amateur hour when it comes to media but somebody around town would have tried to make a buck with leaking some news.

It's getting more and more likely that PATFO jumped the gun here tbh :lol

[BacktoBasics]

You can tell a lot about people based on how the handle issues of belief and faith. Some find comfort in it while others only find joy in trying to destroy someone else's. I'm sorry you feel so strongly against faith. I mean sincerely that I care for you and I will pray for you. I will pray that God can turn your heart, but if He doesn't, that He will at least soften your spirit to those who don't share your beliefs. Blessings friend
No ones attempting to destroy your faith. You people are so self aggrandizing.

Enjoy your faith but we don't need it bleeding into our lives. Just like you expect gay people to be private with their beliefs you can take your faith and keep it in the bed room where it belongs. I don't want to be subject to your immorality.

My body my choice.

[Dejounte]

It's getting warmer, and at a faster rate. Man's CO2 emissions are largely responsible. The end.

Alright, how about the chip embargo that’s eroding one of China’s research bases? Crazy, right?

[Leetonidas]

No ones attempting to destroy your faith. You people are so self aggrandizing.

Enjoy your faith but we don't need it bleeding into our lives. Just like you expect gay people to be private with their beliefs you can take your faith and keep it in the bed room where it belongs. I don't want to be subject to your immorality.

My body my choice.

Exactly...go to church and circle jerk over that bullshit there. No one asked for anyone to condescendingly proselytize to us

[exstatic]

You miss the point. Not saying anyone is entitled.

It's in the Spurs' self-interest as business to be as up front as possible (although, of course, the situation may dictate some constraints).

The Jack analogy is inapt -- Jack was a guy the Spurs picked up for nothing after he was cut by another team. Primo was a first round pick presented by the Spurs to their fans as a possible centerpiece.

The Jack analogy was that we’re not always told, or even told the truth of what happens. The Spurs lied about that to shield Tim, and I’m fine with that.

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Alright, how about the chip embargo that’s eroding one of China’s research bases? Crazy, right?

Ha. Yeah, I got nothing on that, lol. At least my degree informs my climate statement though.

[mo7888]

Ha. Yeah, I got nothing on that, lol. At least my degree informs my climate statement though.

What's your degree?

[Atl Spur]

Nope. Not going after him for that at all...it was the tsk tsk tsk thing he did while being supportive that rubbed peeps the wrong way. And he wasn't the only one.

Lol….you think in your feeble little mind you matter to me? Bro, you may want to chill….

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What's your degree?

Meteorology/Geography & Urban Planning-- and also took grad classes in climatology. Wrote a 40+ page paper on La Niña/El Niño

[mo7888]

Meteorology/Geography & Urban Planning-- and also took grad classes in climatology. Wrote a 40+ page paper on La Niña/El Niño

Very nice

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Lol….you think in your feeble little mind you matter to me? Bro, you may want to chill….

Seems a bit hostile to me, almost un-christian-y, pray guy.

[Leetonidas]

Lol….you think in your feeble little mind you matter to me? Bro, you may want to chill….

Bless your heart. I'll pray for you

[Atl Spur]

Everybody going at Atl Spur for his strong/supportive views on Primo but let’s remember he was high on Josh Primo’s basketball skill set and to a lesser extent PATFO’s prowess to draft and develop young talent; whatever went down these last few days doesn’t necessarily confirm he was wrong… hate to use this term but this is obviously bigger than basketball for Primo.

Bravo! These little women couldn’t wait to take out their pitchforks even at the expense of a teenager……. Old bum ass dudes! If they want me come get me:)

[Leetonidas]

No one is pulling out pitchforks you fucking retard :lol you're an idiot

[Atl Spur]

Bless your heart. I'll pray for you

You and I both know what it is……. I appreciate you for that:)

[Uriel]

So the part in Primo's statement where he says "I hope to be able to discuss these issues in the future so I can help others who have suffered in a similar way." If he had committed rape or murder, I don't think he would be in a position to "discuss these issues in the future" to "help others" right? He would be ostracized.

[Atl Spur]

No one is pulling out pitchforks you fucking retard :lol you're an idiot

You would be wise to shut up and not remove all doubt. Just some friendly advice

[Leetonidas]

You would be wise to shut up and not remove all doubt. Just some friendly advice

Lmao ok miss Cleo. Eat a dick you fucking moron.

:lol Melting down because people are shitting on you for being a retard and acting like it's because the board is taking up arms against Primo. You're a special kind of stupid

[Dverde]

So the part in Primo's statement where he says "I hope to be able to discuss these issues in the future so I can help others who have suffered in a similar way." If he had committed rape or murder, I don't think he would be in a position to "discuss these issues in the future" to "help others" right? He would be ostracized.

I remember his agent being more inexperienced than others. Pretty sure this statement will be shown to not make a lot of sense when all the facts are known.

[Atl Spur]

Seems a bit hostile to me, almost un-christian-y, pray guy.

Hey did I state my beliefs or just mention prayer? Tik toc……. Don’t try an get cute with me without having your “DUCKS “ aligned�� I’ll be your huckleberry!

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao some hilarious pearl clutching and imagined victimization going on in this thread. Surprised Miss Cleo didn't see this coming

[Atl Spur]

Lmao ok miss Cleo. Eat a dick you fucking moron.

:lol Melting down because people are shitting on you for being a retard and acting like it's because the board is taking up arms against Primo. You're a special kind of stupid
Let that bitch ass’ness out you! I have a way of exposing little women like you!

[Atl Spur]

:lmao some hilarious pearl clutching and imagined victimization going on in this thread. Surprised Miss Cleo didn't see this coming

Im miss Cleo……so I did biatch!

[Joseph Kony]

Atl Spur trying to lecture people about faith and tolerance while spouting misogyny :lol Not surprising the thoughts and prayer crowd tend to be massive hypocrites

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So the part in Primo's statement where he says "I hope to be able to discuss these issues in the future so I can help others who have suffered in a similar way." If he had committed rape or murder, I don't think he would be in a position to "discuss these issues in the future" to "help others" right? He would be ostracized.

Yup, which is why I immediately discounted a murder and gambling thing. Seems to be he is implying a sexual or physical abuse from his childhood that he then himself perpetrated in some way, maybe even a minor way towards another. Perhaps he gets caught with some irrefutable evidence of said activity then goes to PATFO and asks for his release while he seeks help.

I still don't know that this accounts for his deletion from the Spurs mentions though.

[Atl Spur]

Meteorology/Geography & Urban Planning-- and also took grad classes in climatology. Wrote a 40+ page paper on La Niña/El Niño

Can I play the accolades game with you?

[BacktoBasics]

Let that bitch ass’ness out you! I have a way of exposing little women like you!

Exposing little women?

Careful or your team will waive you.

[Atl Spur]

Atl Spur trying to lecture people about faith and tolerance while spouting misogyny :lol Not surprising the thoughts and prayer crowd tend to be massive hypocrites

Bro, say what you mean.

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Can I play the accolades game with you?

You can play with yourself.

[mo7888]

Yup, which is why I immediately discounted a murder and gambling thing. Seems to be he is implying a sexual or physical abuse from his childhood that he then himself perpetrated in some way, maybe even a minor way towards another. Perhaps he gets caught with some irrefutable evidence of said activity then goes to PATFO and asks for his release while he seeks help.

I still don't know that this accounts for his deletion from the Spurs mentions though.

In the absence of any evidence to point us in a particular direction...your theory seems the most logical to me at this time..

[Atl Spur]

Exposing little women?

Careful or your team will waive you.

Good one��

[Atl Spur]

You can play with yourself.

That’s what I thought or think or knew…….you get the point ( or was about to ).

[Joseph Kony]

Bro, say what you mean.

You're a whiny little cunt in your feelings and acting like a straight up bitchmade pussy

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Atl Spur, just stop brother. Nothing good will come of your continued presence on this topic. Each post seems to be getting more and more unhinged. You're gonna force timvp to delete you like your boy from ST mentions.

[Joseph Kony]

Meteorology/Geography & Urban Planning-- and also took grad classes in climatology. Wrote a 40+ page paper on La Niña/El Niño

Urban planning was the minor I assume? Odd combo but always respect a college grad with a scientific degree :tu

[Wu36]

There’s no way the Spurs are paying out his contract though yeah? If he quit, that is.
Colts paid Andrew Luck to quit

[Uriel]

Yup, which is why I immediately discounted a murder and gambling thing. Seems to be he is implying a sexual or physical abuse from his childhood that he then himself perpetrated in some way, maybe even a minor way towards another. Perhaps he gets caught with some irrefutable evidence of said activity then goes to PATFO and asks for his release while he seeks help.

I still don't know that this accounts for his deletion from the Spurs mentions though.
Yeah, honestly, that would be my guess as well, possibly to his girlfriend (which could be why she untagged him from her photos).

[Joseph Kony]

i still say he slapped his girlfriend up. maybe he was slapped up as a child or witnessed it in his family, would seem to be the most logical explanation for his trauma comments and the immediate release

[Atl Spur]

You're a whiny little cunt in your feelings and acting like a straight up bitchmade pussy

Let it all out…..I’d hate myself too! Where you live?

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Urban planning was the minor I assume? Odd combo but always respect a college grad with a scientific degree :tu

Double major. Lots of crossover actually as physical geography, remote sensing, GIS, etc classes have carryover for both majors. Anthropology was my minor actually.

Had like 36 hours of just Meteorology/climatology courses

[Atl Spur]

Atl Spur, just stop brother. Nothing good will come of your continued presence on this topic. Each post seems to be getting more and more unhinged. You're gonna force timvp to delete you like your boy from ST mentions.

Really? Unhinged? Interesting choice of words…… you a psychologist now? Don’t divert… how clear was that?

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Really? Unhinged? Interesting choice of words…… you a psychologist now? Don’t divert… how clear was that?

Go play accolades, Holmes. Whatever that is. You need a breather.

You understand the issue here, don't ya?

It's not that you were a Primo stan. There were others.

It's not that you were on your high horse to others about it. There were others.

It's not that him getting cut makes you look bad, you had no control over his personal life.

It's that you've gone off the reservation with thinking you're being picked on for merely supporting the kid. There are others doing that too.

People are giving you shit because:

1. You won't let it go.
2. You were especially eager to push back, even going after people's BBIQ for doubting him especially as a PG.
3. You now look like a yappy chihuahua that everyone just wants to shut up for a few minutes.

Primo is gone. It's not your fault. It'll be OK. Find another draft hero to stan and we can start over with you then. Just chill with Primo. It's done, bruv.

[baseline bum]

He was waived for mental health reasons. It was a mutual agreement so Primo could seek treatment due to previous trauma. He will not report to any team that tries to pick him up. Do not be surprised if a few years from now he comes back to the Spurs.

Makes no sense, Spurs would have told him to retire instead of being on the hook for $8.5 million more.

[Ditty]

Say that no one claims Primo and he decides to want to play next season. Would he just be a normal unrestricted free agent or would the Spurs have any first rights to sign him?

[Extra Stout]

Four is not equal to four sometimes. For example, 19 minus 15 and 21 minus 17 are not the same thing. Not that such a thing applies to any specific situation in this thread.

[Atl Spur]

Go play accolades, Holmes. Whatever that is. You need a breather.

You understand the issue here, don't ya?

It's not that you were a Primo stan. There were others.

It's not that you were on your high horse to others about it. There were others.

It's not that him getting cut makes you look bad, you had no control over his personal life.

It's that you've gone off the reservation with thinking you're being picked on for merely supporting the kid. There are others doing that too.

People are giving you shit because:

1. You won't let it go.
2. You were especially eager to push back, even going after people's BBIQ for doubting him especially as a PG.
3. You now look like a yappy chihuahua that everyone just wants to shut up for a few minutes.

Primo is gone. It's not your fault. It'll be OK. Find another draft hero to stan and we can start over with you then. Just chill with Primo. It's done, bruv.

Please stick to the script….if you want talk spurs cool but get cute about real life and we can do that too! I can stay on whatever message YOU choose! #gotchabiatch

[mo7888]

Say that no one claims Primo and he decides to want to play next season. Would he just be a normal unrestricted free agent or would the Spurs have any first rights to sign him?

I don't believe we have any rights

[baseline bum]

The fact prayer means nothing to you is telling…….byeeeeee!

At least you accept prayer meaning nothing as fact, that's a start

[baseline bum]

Seems a bit hostile to me, almost un-christian-y, pray guy.

Seems very chrisitan-y tbh

[bigfan]

There must be a huge skeleton in the closet for the Spurs to sh-tcan their recent lottery pick knowing they will be on the hook for millions. The story will come out soon I hope but I am certain the front office made the right decision.

[Mugen]

Atl Spur :lol

I haven't seen a meltdown this bad since the Spurs organization yesterday :lmao

[baseline bum]

i still say he slapped his girlfriend up. maybe he was slapped up as a child or witnessed it in his family, would seem to be the most logical explanation for his trauma comments and the immediate release

Would have to be more than slapping her around to get cut. He would have had to fuck her up really badly, like broken jaw, busted eye socket, something like that to make Primo untradeable. There aren't a lot of things that could make a guy untradeable and cause the team to just wipe all traces of him from the team's history. An extremely severe beating of his GF would probably be one. Fucking minors would be another. Child molesting another. Caught with child porn would do it. Murder would. Being an accessory to a murder probably would. Otherwise I can't think of much else that would make cutting him a reasonable course of action.

[NASpurs]

Can ST scrub everything Atl Spur related due to his mental health reasons?

[spurraider21]

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[spurraider21]

Would have to be more than slapping her around to get cut. He would have had to fuck her up really badly, like broken jaw, busted eye socket, something like that to make Primo untradeable. There aren't a lot of things that could make a guy untradeable and cause the team to just wipe all traces of him from the team's history. An extremely severe beating of his GF would probably be one. Fucking minors would be another. Child molesting another. Caught with child porn would do it. Murder would. Being an accessory to a murder probably would. Otherwise I can't think of much else that would make cutting him a reasonable course of action.
Maybe he paid for her to get an abortion, lied about it, and wants to run for senate in georgia

[SayTown]

He could been molested as a child and tried to hire a hitman who was really an undercover agent.

[Atl Spur]

Can ST scrub everything Atl Spur related due to his mental health reasons?

Pop that collar homie! You are witty…..

[Ditty]

His girlfriend, I believe changed her profile picture on her Instagram to her and Primo in black and white photo. At this point, I am thinking Primo asked for his release and requested everything about him to be removed. Did the spot light really get to him? Did all the attention he probably gets in public just completely overwhelm him that he doesn’t want to play basketball right now?

[Atl Spur]

Atl Spur :lol

I haven't seen a meltdown this bad since the Spurs organization yesterday :lmao

It’s fun sometimes…….

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He could been molested as a child and tried to hire a hitman who was really an undercover agent.

Doubt Spurs would waive him for that as that's almost a logical step for a victim of that sort of crime.

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His girlfriend, I believe changed her profile picture on her Instagram to her and Primo in black and white photo. At this point, I am thinking Primo asked for his release and requested everything about him to be removed. Did the spot light really get to him? Did all the attention he probably gets in public just completely overwhelm him that he doesn’t want to play basketball right now?

As odd as it sounds, this is best case scenario. Almost hoping this is the case.

But it's highly unlikely because Spurs would not waive him under that scenario he'd have to retire.

[cjw]

As odd as it sounds, this is best case scenario. Almost hoping this is the case.

But it's highly unlikely because Spurs would not waive him under that scenario he'd have to retire.

Well, there is history of guys getting to decide not to play and still be on payroll. Nephew, Simmons to name a few.

[Ditty]

So the Twitter investigators have apparently found that Eubanks unfollowed Primo on Instagram recently and they were really close friends along with his girlfriend and Eubank’s wife. Eubanks wife posted two instagram stories about stop silencing women and believe victims. She also liked a Twitter post from Tom Petrini that there is more to the story than we know, then unliked the tweet. Her name is Hailey Thomas/Eubanks on Instagram and Twitter.

[FkLA]

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[Ditty]

Thanks FkLA

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Well, there is history of guys getting to decide not to play and still be on payroll. Nephew, Simmons to name a few.

Doubtful since they just picked up his 3rd yr option. They're not paying him 2 years salary because he had a change of heart.

[Dejounte]

Good call by the Spurs, if true. Fuck scumbags who abuse others.

[JuneJive]

He slapped his girl probably, right?

Seems the most obvious.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Only the Spurs could keep this as under raps as they have. Pop gave CIA training to the whole organization it would appear.

[Mugen]

Only the Spurs could keep this as under raps as they have. Pop gave CIA training to the whole organization it would appear.

It also helps that the media couldn't give two shits about the Spurs in general :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Good call by the Spurs, if true. Fuck scumbags who abuse others.

Unfortunately that’s about all that seems plausible. The very few dots available seem to point that way. I don’t think you’d shut him down like that otherwise.

[K...]

Does anyone consider that there might have been an investigation of something like contested sexual stuff or DV,. And the investigation just got worse due to Primo lying to the team or a second event happen. The lie about it would explain why the team moved on from him because players dont like liars. I could see primo gloating over texts that might be turned over.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

It also helps that the media couldn't give two shits about the Spurs in general :lol

True, except Primo was one of the highest trending stories on a lot of social media platforms yesterday. Must have been a slow night for anything newsworthy.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Does anyone consider that there might have been an investigation of something like contested sexual stuff or DV,. And the investigation just got worse due to Primo lying to the team or a second event happen. The lie about it would explain why the team moved on from him because players dont like liars. I could see primo gloating over texts that might be turned over.

The team didn’t seem to skip a beat in the game. Not like they were lamenting his loss very much.

[bluebellmaniac]

He's been bulking up. Juicing?

Then roid-raging on the girlfriend? Pure speculation. We need facts.

[Big Empty]

Damn. He slapped his chick and we released him? Watch the Lakers sign him and go on to win titles in a few years…Basketball is bigger than private domestic abuse

[scott]

Amazing that literally no one has been able to get the inside scoop with confirmation to the point of running a story.

While it is certainly fair for the Spurs to say they can't talk about it (and it might be the case for legal reasons, especially in regards to protecting any potential victims*), in pro sports the spotlight is too bright to just expect to be able to dodge the story coming out.

*I have some experience in this realm, and if we are dealing about a situation of a workplace incident where the Spurs have details of something happening that involved a victim, the Spurs would put themselves in major trouble and legal liability by speaking on this matter any further. A victims family could sue the shit out of them if they did anything to expose the victim.

[ChumpDumper]

The Southern Baptist Church is bigger than private child sex abuse

It's one way of looking at it, I guess.

[scott]

The team didn’t seem to skip a beat in the game. Not like they were lamenting his loss very much.

This is prescient. It almost seems to indicate that they knew something was up with Josh and they aren't sad to see him go? We remember how Keldon looked after DJM got traded, but he seemed completely unfazed by Primo getting released. On the other hand, seemed like Primo was "one of the guys" from the outside looking in? Maybe he did something SO bad that no one on the team feels bad for him?

[BacktoBasics]

That can’t be it. You wait that out and trade him for a couple 2nds. None of this shit makes sense.

[hommeaetage]

18 hours later nothing has leaked? :wakeup

[Sugus]

Gotta tag the superfans: Sugus Atl Spur feels like I’m missing a couple more

Man, what the fuck. Just what the fuck.

I don't even know what to think. I guess nobody does. Seeing the Spurs' working of the situation points to the worst of things. Just terrible news all around.

[Sugus]

His girlfriend, I believe changed her profile picture on her Instagram to her and Primo in black and white photo. At this point, I am thinking Primo asked for his release and requested everything about him to be removed. Did the spot light really get to him? Did all the attention he probably gets in public just completely overwhelm him that he doesn’t want to play basketball right now?

That would honestly be the best case scenario. Sad and bad for the Spurs of course, but at least nothing truly bad goes down.

Thinking on it though, if it had been such a mental-health related issue, the Spurs would've handled it a very different way; at least stating the reason, instead of literally avoiding any kind of explanation and just hoping the kid well. It's gotta be serious or legally bound to be said that way.

[bluebellmaniac]

He's been bulking up. Juicing?

Then roid-raging on the girlfriend? Pure speculation. We need facts.

Pure speculation...

He smashed his GF's face in Roid-rage. When she wakes up, she maybe calls the cops, but also calls Pop or Buford. Maybe goes down to the Spurs offices to show the work he did on her.

Pop calls in Primo who either angrily admits it or is defiant in his response.

Pop pulls the plug on him.

While that could explain things, it is pure speculation.

[Atl Spur]

But everyone wants to speculate on his demise……. Do anyone have any balls on this board?

[FkLA]

Everybody assuming Eubanks' wife is referencing domestic violence but I'm not so sure. Primo and his gf still have each other's pictures on social media.

Pure speculation, but my guess is the victim is not the girlfriend. Possibly underage.

[RC_Drunkford]

if they waived him for beating up his girl the Spurs will waive a lot of players in the future

[ChumpDumper]

if they waived him for beating up his girl the Spurs will waive a lot of players in the future

:tu

[bluebellmaniac]

if they waived him for beating up his girl the Spurs will waive a lot of players in the future

It'd put some fear into them. Have them pay the girl off, REAL quick. Big $.

[Desert Spur]

So the Twitter investigators have apparently found that Eubanks unfollowed Primo on Instagram recently and they were really close friends along with his girlfriend and Eubank’s wife. Eubanks wife posted two instagram stories about stop silencing women and believe victims. She also liked a Twitter post from Tom Petrini that there is more to the story than we know, then unliked the tweet. Her name is Hailey Thomas/Eubanks on Instagram and Twitter.

Perhaps it's a Ray Rice type of incident.

[BackHome]

This is prescient. It almost seems to indicate that they knew something was up with Josh and they aren't sad to see him go? We remember how Keldon looked after DJM got traded, but he seemed completely unfazed by Primo getting released. On the other hand, seemed like Primo was "one of the guys" from the outside looking in? Maybe he did something SO bad that no one on the team feels bad for him?

I think maybe he was a kid who was not ready for all the pressure that came with his pick - I have seen it a lot of times where someone gets put into a position they are just not ready for and then all of a sudden they do something really stupid and get fired. I remember one guy who we hired I kept telling everyone he was good but he was not ready for the position but I was shot down and he got it. The kid was really good but did not have the skill set for the position he was put in.....Six months latter he was fired the dude was spending 70% of his time surfing porn when they did a search on his computer they had a stack about two inches that were just solid sites of different porn - Everyone was so Shocked as he was also a really nice kid....I think some people just can't ask for help or admit they not ready and just self sabotage

[Gibbz]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5a/fa/e1/5afae112564749f2faac7780994c2eba.jpg

[Dex]

if they waived him for beating up his girl the Spurs will waive a lot of players in the future

Good.

I don't give a shit if you are a $100M NBA player or some dipshit working at Taco Bell, no room for domestic violence in this world.

Frankly, what the Browns are doing with Deshaun Watson right now is pathetic.

[Mugen]

Yeah I don't know if it's DA. If that's really the bar, then this organization will never even sniff relevance ever again tbh.

It has to be something worse. But if it isn't, then holy crap the FO messed up bad. We just gotta hope that Pop is out after this year and the new ownership group starts putting some real heat on BWrong.

[Chomag]

That would honestly be the best case scenario. Sad and bad for the Spurs of course, but at least nothing truly bad goes down.

Thinking on it though, if it had been such a mental-health related issue, the Spurs would've handled it a very different way; at least stating the reason, instead of literally avoiding any kind of explanation and just hoping the kid well. It's gotta be serious or legally bound to be said that way.

Would the Spurs willing to pay 8 + mil just because a player says that they want to quit? Something like would be a buyout or asking the player to retire because a team should not be on the hook by waiving him if a player just wants to quit his contract.

[Mugen]

Good.

I don't give a shit if you are a $100M NBA player or a some dipshit working at Taco Bell, no world for domestic violence in this world.

Frankly, what the Browns are doing with Deshaun Watson right now is pathetic.

Except there is and especially if you're a highly paid professional athlete. It sucks but that's just how the world works.

If this FO really waived him because of a DA incident and he doesn't even end up getting charged with a crime, then they're absolute dead in the water going forward. Sorry tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

Good.

I don't give a shit if you are a $100M NBA player or some dipshit working at Taco Bell, no room for domestic violence in this world.

Frankly, what the Browns are doing with Deshaun Watson right now is pathetic.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it happens a lot everywhere, so this won't be the last case where they will have to waive a guy for doing it. And it won't always be your back up PG.

[Dex]

Except there is and especially if you're a highly paid professional athlete. It sucks but that's just how the world works.

If this FO really waived him because of a DA incident and he doesn't even end up getting charged with a crime, then they're absolute dead in the water going forward. Sorry tbh.

Times are changing.

I'm hoping that's not the case for Primo, because I am genuinely not wishing any ill will on the kid. Not jumping to any conclusions until we know the full story.

BUT society is becoming more aware of and offended by these type of issues. If this ends up being a Parker/Barry-type situation...that shit used to get brushed under the rug. In this day of social media and instant news, it doesn't anymore. Udoka recently got canned because he got caught with his hand in the wrong cookie jar.

[tmtcsc]

I'm just the messenger, here.

Reddit is what it is, but, there's a rumor that some weird shit went down at the hotel in Minneapolis and Primo got kicked out.
Allegedly, Primo exposed himself to housekeeping. Spurs benched him and did their own investigation the past 3 days and their conclusions led to them waiving him tonight at 5pm.

Interesting. Supposedly, he never made it back to San Antonio from Minnesota. Might be some truth to it. If that's the case, some team will pick him up. Might tie in to him possibly being sexually abused in his earlier years and blaming his sexual perversions or fetishes on it. Perhaps this wasn't the first incident and he was warned. When this happened, it was a zero- tolerance cut. Man, this is some wild shit.

[Chomag]

Let's be honest if the things Tony Parker was involved in happened today he would have been canceled.

[Wu36]

Would the Spurs willing to pay 8 + mil just because a player says that they want to quit? Something like would be a buyout or asking the player to retire because a team should not be on the hook by waiving him if a player just wants to quit his contract.
How much did they pay Gallo to walk?

[KingKev]

Let's be honest if the things Tony Parker was involved in happened today he would have been canceled.

I think context matters. Easier to cancel a player who hasn’t done anything versus an integral part of a dynasty.

[Russ]

The team didn’t seem to skip a beat in the game. Not like they were lamenting his loss very much.

I kinda noticed something at the Summer League in Vegas. Primo seemed a bit distant.

I go to Vegas every summer and the summer before Primo's calm looked like great confidence for someone so young.

But this summer I had to observe:


Not to pile on, but what looked like poise a year ago may be starting to look like a lack of fire.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296982&page=54&p=10779707#post10779707

This summer he looked more aloof, almost preoccupied.

Of course, this is probably just 20-20 hindsight.

[Wu36]

I think context matters. Easier to cancel a player who hasn’t done anything versus an integral part of a dynasty.
Yes. Kinda why Draymond got a hand slap

[Mal]

I wonder what he did to fuck up rest of his life

[Chomag]

How much did they pay Gallo to walk?

Gallo money was used to make the trade deal work.

[offset formation]

I wonder what he did to fuck up rest of his life

Assuming he doesn't have a longstanding criminal issue that could send him to jail or put him on a sexual predator list, we should all be so lucky. Dudes a multimillionaire that won't have to work the rest of his life if he invests properly. He's 19.

[Wu36]

Gallo money was used to make the trade deal work.
It was. But they are still paying him. Like they paid Gasol, Luka, Carroll extra. Not to play

[ducks]

Fans have a right to know something
They can say he did something and spurs can no longer employee him.
If they do not say much more thru risk fans stop supporting them.
I know many fans are just putting up with pop being politically because spurs are important to them. Could be the last straw though

[RC_Drunkford]

It was. But they are still paying him. Like they paid Gasol, Luka, Carroll extra. Not to play

Spurs been had at least one charity case on the roster since 2018

[Wu36]

If he had done something really bad we would know by now. Yet no news. At the same time nothing from the players union. Spurs are giving him his money. It’s lame, but I don’t think they are getting out in front of something. I think it was too much for him to handle and he quit. Perhaps he beat his girl or exposed himself. Maybe both or none. Maybe he did something else. And maybe any of those things were him quitting. 12 mil is a lot to walk off on happy or not.

[Mal]

Assuming he doesn't have a longstanding criminal issue that could send him to jail or put him on a sexual predator list, we should all be so lucky. Dudes a multimillionaire that won't have to work the rest of his life if he invests properly. He's 19.

I would hold my horses, Spurs did not pay him all that money, and I doubt they will if would be charged with something serious. Aaron Hernandez wasn't paid, was he ?

[ChumpDumper]

Fans have a right to know something
They can say he did something and spurs can no longer employee him.
If they do not say much more thru risk fans stop supporting them.
I know many fans are just putting up with pop being politically because spurs are important to them. Could be the last straw though

You're still around.

[ChumpDumper]

If he had done something really bad we would know by now.Not necessarily.

[Chomag]

It's kind of hard to find out anything when our local media just laps up and accepts whatever the Spurs FO is feeding them.

It would be nice if we had at least 1 single news outlet here with balls enough to put pressure on the FO demanding some answers for clarity.

It's bad business to put out a product like selling tickets and jerseys promoting Primo on it and then not feeling like they need to explain anything to the customers on why they made a decision to terminate him from said product.

I'm sure nobody is asking for every personal detail but some clarity would be nice. And they wonder why people speculate, well when you don't give people much to go on what do you expect?

[Wu36]

Not necessarily.
True. But I read his statement as a relief. Not getting a head of something he’s done that’s really bad.

[emanueldavidginobili]

The fact that I can go on the Spurs website and purchase a Jordan Hall jersey and not a Josh Primo jersey or go on the official NBA store website and purchase a Cacok jersey and not a Primo jersey is telling. Spurs want no association with him.

[Wu36]

When you bet on somebody and they quit, it stings. I’m hoping that’s all the gear issue is. At the end of the day I’m happy with Keldon and Vassells development. I’m high on Wesley. Sucks to get nothing for primo. But he wasn’t a pg and I’m currently fine with what they have at 2/3.

[Russ]

Spurs want no association with him.

Primo started as a reach and now he's untouchable.

[ChumpDumper]

It's kind of hard to find out anything when our local media just laps up and accepts whatever the Spurs FO is feeding them.

It would be nice if we had at least 1 single news outlet here with balls enough to put pressure on the FO demanding some answers for clarity.What pressure can they apply?


It's bad business to put out a product like selling tickets and jerseys promoting Primo on it and then not feeling like they need to explain anything to the customers on why they made a decision to terminate him from said product.

I'm sure nobody is asking for every personal detail but some clarity would be nice. And they wonder why people speculate, well when you don't give people much to go on what do you expect?I'm not sure they wonder why people speculate. They just don't care if they do. It seems likely this is a legal issue and the less people in the know say at this time, the better.

[Uriel]

One (perhaps overoptimistic possibility): Primo suffered a mental health crisis as a result of previous trauma (PTSD), asked to be released so he could focus fully on his mental health, and the team granted his request to maintain goodwill. Then, after two years when his contract ends, he will have received mental health treatment, taken strides to overcome his challenges, and then signs a new, multiyear contract with the team and picks up right where he left off.

[timvp]

The fact that I can go on the Spurs website and purchase a Jordan Hall jersey and not a Josh Primo jersey or go on the official NBA store website and purchase a Cacok jersey and not a Primo jersey is telling. Spurs want no association with him.

Yeah, it's weird. You can buy a Wieskamp Spurs jersey on NBA.com but not only is there nothing for Primo, it doesn't even autofill his name. That means the NBA Store went in and deleted his entire existence.

https://store.nba.com/

You can find Luka Samanic Spurs apparel. Cacock jersey. Dejounte Murray Spurs jersey. Not even a Primo landing page or autofill.

https://media.tenor.com/cuNlWeRZo0YAAAAC/brian-windhorst-why-would-they-do-that.gif

[szkorhetz]

One (perhaps overoptimistic possibility): Primo suffered a mental health crisis as a result of previous trauma (PTSD), asked to be released so he could focus fully on his mental health, and the team granted his request to maintain goodwill. Then, after two years when his contract ends, he will have received mental health treatment, taken strides to overcome his challenges, and then signs a new, multiyear contract with the team and picks up right where he left off.
This is something that could be communicated and would show support from the Spurs. It's clearly a burn all bridges situation and it's coming from the FO.

[offset formation]

Yeah, it's weird. You can buy a Wieskamp Spurs jersey on NBA.com but not only is there nothing for Primo, it doesn't even autofill his name. That means the NBA Store went in and deleted his entire existence.

https://store.nba.com/

You can find Luka Samanic Spurs apparel. Cacock jersey. Dejounte Murray Spurs jersey. Not even a Primo landing page or autofill.

https://media.tenor.com/cuNlWeRZo0YAAAAC/brian-windhorst-why-would-they-do-that.gif

Wait, woah. So the NBA as a whole is also distancing themselves from this? That's way worse than just the team waiving him and must have been communicated up the chain to Silver and the player's union.

And then it makes you wonder what on Earth he could have done do be 100% excommunicated from his employer as though he never existed.

[Extra Stout]

This is something that could be communicated and would show support from the Spurs. It's clearly a burn all bridges situation and it's coming from the FO.
Yes, in 2022 mental health issues get treated with kid gloves. The Spurs would have given him all the time and help he needed. They wouldn’t have thrown away the asset. That’s true even if he had an “episode.”

For them to erase him from existence, he had to have done something that makes him radioactive. For them to maintain absolute radio silence, they must be protecting someone or something.

For nobody to pick him up off waivers, even on a flyer, also is telling.

[Wu36]

He still shows up on Spurs roster on nba.com. So the cover up story isn’t flying.

[Kurik]

He still shows up on Spurs roster on nba.com. So the cover up story isn’t flying.

Hi Joshua

[Wu36]

Hola

[KingKev]

Yeah, it's weird. You can buy a Wieskamp Spurs jersey on NBA.com but not only is there nothing for Primo, it doesn't even autofill his name. That means the NBA Store went in and deleted his entire existence.

https://store.nba.com/

You can find Luka Samanic Spurs apparel. Cacock jersey. Dejounte Murray Spurs jersey. Not even a Primo landing page or autofill.

https://media.tenor.com/cuNlWeRZo0YAAAAC/brian-windhorst-why-would-they-do-that.gif


More likely PATFO being PATFO.

I can still buy a Miles Bridges jersey on NBA.com

Let that sink in.

[Chomag]

Well as long as we are on the Speculation train.

I'll throw in this

Maybe he uncovered some government secrets so now he is being erased...

PRIMO, Primo who...?

[Chomag]

Yeah ok, I'm sorry...
But with them given us nothing to really go on we might just have some fun with it.

[Extra Stout]

Yeah ok, I'm sorry...
But with them given us nothing to really go on we might just have some fun with it.
UKRAINE BIOLABS

[Chomag]

Heck, I still remember that the Primo pick for their 12th broke Spurstalk for a bit on draft night :lol

[objective]

I don't understand what was so urgent about cutting him with what seems like an hour or two of deliberation considering how included he had been with the social media promotion and his contract pickup.

Nobody would have noticed had be been held out another game or two with the glute issue, and him not being at the game could be marked down as treatment related.

They could have bought a good working week of time to come to a conclusion without any imminent arrest or charges.

Why the urgency? Primo's statement wasn't exactly a denial of anything or a stand against accusations, so I don't know what to think.

If it was a non-criminal situation, they could have at least gotten a break on the money in a buyout.

[TD 21]

More unprecedented bad luck for this franchise.

It'd obviously be premature and foolish to place blame before any facts come to light, but either they're just the unluckiest franchise extant or there's something in the water here.

Too many bizarre things happening seemingly abruptly with little to no explanation.



bruh why are y'all talking about murder? Do any of you live in the hood? Does this kid look like a killer? GTFOH

:lmao What does a killer "look like"?

[Dverde]

NBA slowly building a Las Vegas franchise on the DL. Miles Bridges and Primo penciled in to start. Ime Udoka can coach them.

[Gorepopovich]

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/29/josh-primo-jerseys-removed-from-nba-spurs-shops-after-unexpected-exit/

[baseline bum]

Assuming he doesn't have a longstanding criminal issue that could send him to jail or put him on a sexual predator list, we should all be so lucky. Dudes a multimillionaire that won't have to work the rest of his life if he invests properly. He's 19.

He'll be bankrupt in 3-4 years if he never plays another game.

[baseline bum]

One (perhaps overoptimistic possibility): Primo suffered a mental health crisis as a result of previous trauma (PTSD), asked to be released so he could focus fully on his mental health, and the team granted his request to maintain goodwill. Then, after two years when his contract ends, he will have received mental health treatment, taken strides to overcome his challenges, and then signs a new, multiyear contract with the team and picks up right where he left off.

Right where he left off would be as a shitty player. No thanks.

[tbdog]

Just woke up. Still no more news :flipoff

[Arcadian]

The thing is, if you don't address the issue, people are going to assume the worst. Now everyone thinks he's a murderer or rapist, and if he did anything less, it would be cruel to let people associate him with those crimes.

[RC_Drunkford]

He'll be bankrupt in 3-4 years if he never plays another game.

there‘s always China. They don‘t give a fuck what he did in the states

[steak n eggs]

Maybe he was pulling something in the locker room, no pun intended, and the other guys weren’t having it. And as an organization, they decided to bury it. Thus, no arrest or media story. Not sure what you tell other teams when they call to ask why though.

[Wu36]

The players aren’t phased. We shouldn’t be either

[baseline bum]

Maybe he was pulling something in the locker room, no pun intended, and the other guys weren’t having it. And as an organization, they decided to bury it. Thus, no arrest or media story. Not sure what you tell other teams when they call to ask why though.

Unless he pulled a gun on someone in the locker room then you just trade him if he's being a cancer.

[Uriel]

Is this the end of Primo's career? Or can he somehow find his way back onto the roster after a couple of years, when his mental challenges will have (hopefully) been rehabilitated?

[K...]

The thing that bugs me, whatever it was has to be bad enough to scare teams off claiming him off waivers. If its the spurs waived him out of respect for ptsd or whatever i dont know if that is enough. Its not like the spurs would call every team and violate hippa for the lulz.

Whatever happened is bad enough to alert the nba office or the spurs know hell never be good enough and won't report to any team so waiving him is no biggee.

To the idea that primo can be back, i dont see it. Hes so raw in ways that need addressing. I know murray lost a year but murray was driven, primo is more like white (white famously was polished when drafted)

[Ariel]

Is this the end of Primo's career? Or can he somehow find his way back onto the roster after a couple of years, when his mental challenges will have (hopefully) been rehabilitated?
Futile to even ask considering the range of possible causes thrown in this very thread.

[Wu36]

I’d rather see Wesley playing back up pg and correcting his issues

[Ariel]

The thing that bugs me, whatever it was has to be bad enough to scare teams off claiming him off waivers. If its the spurs waived him out of respect for ptsd or whatever i dont know if that is enough. Its not like the spurs would call every team and violate hippa for the lulz.
No one with half a brain would take into account all hints and conclude it's PTSD. If it was, this is probably the worst possible way of handling it. Clearly Primo is at fault here, and we're not talking about something minor.

[objective]

I think teams need cap space to claim him off waivers, so that leaves who? OKC and Indiana? Maybe there's someone else with just enough to grab him.

If he clears, I could see him helping a lot of teams as a 10-15 minutes reserve. Milwaukee might be the best fit, they need 6-7 guys who can kind of defend and allegedly shoot.

[Wu36]

It hasn’t been 48hrs for teams to claim him.

[offset formation]

No one with half a brain would take into account all hints and conclude it's PTSD. If it was, this is probably the worst possible way of handling it. Clearly Primo is at fault here, and we're not talking about something minor.

Yes. And the thing that keeps coming back is the instant scrubbing of him from the Spurs AND NBA stores.

What causes that type of reaction? Even if someone was maybe involved in a homicide (WHICH I ABSOLUTELY DONT THINK HAPPENED), they'd more than likely release a statement about letting the judicial process play out etc. His merchandise would probably still be up until more details came out.

So for me, the only thing I can figure is they have video evidence or an admission of some crime or violation that is egregious enough to immediately be dropped. And when juxtaposed with his own release of dealing with a past trauma that he wants to help others deal with later, 99% of the time those are sexual or physical abuse received as children that he perhaps revisited upon others.

[Wu36]

He’s probably also be suspended by the league just incase it’s a player on a rookie deal wanting out. I don’t think that’s what he was trying to do. But you can’t just have players try to force out of rookie deals

[Wu36]

Nba doesn’t want to sell dead people’s jerseys. This story is so Chris Benoit because of fans.

[lmbebo]

He’s probably also be suspended by the league just incase it’s a player on a rookie deal wanting out. I don’t think that’s what he was trying to do. But you can’t just have players try to force out of rookie deals


Don't think its him wanting to move on. By all accounts it has nothing to do with basketball, even in his short statement. All things point towards something more serious.

[Wu36]

Don't think its him wanting to move on. By all accounts it has nothing to do with basketball, even in his short statement. All things point towards something more serious.
I get that. But this could be a future issue and way for others to move teams after a year. I absolutely don’t think that’s what this situation is about. But it opens doors.

[objective]

Even if he clears waivers, I hope there's some offset to the cap hit when he signs with a new team.

I hope he doesn't sign with the Lakers. Because they probably could have put him in a Westbrook deal to get some picks who hopefully won't be prone to whatever is going on

[Mal]

One (perhaps overoptimistic possibility): Primo suffered a mental health crisis as a result of previous trauma (PTSD), asked to be released so he could focus fully on his mental health, and the team granted his request to maintain goodwill. Then, after two years when his contract ends, he will have received mental health treatment, taken strides to overcome his challenges, and then signs a new, multiyear contract with the team and picks up right where he left off.

You would not have to waive him, if that was the case.

[Uriel]

FWIW, there are posts on Reddit claiming he’s being investigated for sexual assault.

[lefty20]

Even if he clears waivers, I hope there's some offset to the cap hit when he signs with a new team.

I hope he doesn't sign with the Lakers. Because they probably could have put him in a Westbrook deal to get some picks who hopefully won't be prone to whatever is going on

Pacer are the only team who can absorb his salary. He will definitely clear the waivers, meaning Spurs will definitely be signing check for him throughout next season.

[BillMc]

This is like the girl who ghosted you and you sit around wondering what went wrong.

[Wu36]

If he just felt overwhelmed as a 19 year old passed as the future, I get it. As long as he didn’t rape/take pics of him with and endangered Sasquatch minor while driving a gas guzzler to the Pelosi residents the other night. The accusations are crazy. VS people just quit their jobs these days. That’s what I think happened. He wasn’t happy and ran off with his money. I don’t think he did any thing bad

[mo7888]

FWIW, there are posts on Reddit claiming he’s being investigated for sexual assault.

And murder...and scalping points...and voting for Abbott...etc etc...point being...Reddit's just a gossip site...

[weebo]

dude raped a minor...yup pedo primo

[BatManu20]

There it is. Pee Wee Primo smh.

1586486862260015106

[Ocotillo]

Sources: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34904011/sources-joshua-primo-allegedly-exposed-women

[BatManu20]

Dude was going around flashing his dick to women all over America. Only the Spurs :lmao

[TDomination]

There it is. Pee Wee Primo smh.

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i knew it

someone posted something about indecent exposure while at minny, that made the most sense. And yup it’s true.

[cd98]

Man, he got waived for exposing himself? I think that's what Rod Strickland did that got him traded to Portland. Seems like they should let him get help instead of just waiving him. Unless he got some kind of a sex offender conviction.

[Spurs9]

So 3..2..1 until the Lakers or Nets claim him?

[RC_Drunkford]

So Primo is a nudist :lol That rumor from the four seasons seems to be true. That‘s probably not good for team morale when you know your team mate is pulling out his dick everytime he sees a woman. This dude is a weirdo. I‘m sure some people here can relate :lol

[BatManu20]

So the statement Primo released was basically him claiming that he was molested and/or sexually abused as a child, and that’s why he goes around flashing other women.

[objective]

Would need more details to figure out if it's really career killing.

Because on the surface that doesn't seem like the kind of thing to keep other teams from signing him, like at all.

If there's no charges, that seems like the kind of thing where you put him in some kind of psychological treatment program and then he's good to go.

[cd98]

Rod Strickland got traded for it.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-04-24-9102060488-story.html

[timtonymanu]

:lmao Primo
:lmao Atl Spur
:lmao Atl Spur would get hard if Primo flashed him

[BatManu20]

Man, he got waived for exposing himself? I think that's what Rod Strickland did that got him traded to Portland. Seems like they should let him get help instead of just waiving him. Unless he got some kind of a sex offender conviction.

“Multiple” is a broad term, but something tells me it’s not just 2 instances tbh… this dude is probably a serial flasher.

[CGD]

Sources: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34904011/sources-joshua-primo-allegedly-exposed-women

Didn’t George Hill flash his dick to a girl online back in the day?

Gotta be more to this like the exposure was to a minor(s) and/or it’s been revealed he’s been doing this for a long time.

[BatManu20]

Deshaun Watson would be proud tbh.

[urunobili]

Thanks for the Woj, article. Is this is worse than a DUI? I mean what is this even different from sending nudes on texts. I’m not sure mental health is a good spin on this since it’s just shaming what he is into. If the exposure wasn’t consensual, yeah it’s really bad, but ido we know if it was between consenting adults?

[jeebus]

Somewhere, Gary Neal is smiling and nodding his head. Classy of Prim:cry to only expose himself and not rape.

[cd98]

I mean unless there is something more than exposing himself, I'm not saying that's okay, but I kind of feel like at 19 you could do more good for him and for the team with some empathy and letting him get help instead of just dumping him for nothing and then refusing to say a word about why so that everyone would start digging and speculating.

[Spurs9]

Didn’t George Hill flash his dick to a girl online back in the day?

Gotta be more to this like the exposure was to a minor(s) and/or it’s been revealed he’s been doing this for a long time.

Shlong Hill tbh

[GAustex]

George Hill slonged the interweb

[Kurik]

If he just felt overwhelmed as a 19 year old passed as the future, I get it. As long as he didn’t rape/take pics of him with and endangered Sasquatch minor while driving a gas guzzler to the Pelosi residents the other night. The accusations are crazy. VS people just quit their jobs these days. That’s what I think happened. He wasn’t happy and ran off with his money. I don’t think he did any thing bad

Bad timing

[Leetonidas]

Wow, did not expect that

[RC_Drunkford]

“Multiple” is a broad term, but something tells me it’s not just 2 instances tbh… this dude is probably a serial flasher.

I think that’s exactly why they waived him. Must have happened a couple of times and he probably kept going to the point where they felt they can‘t help him

[Leetonidas]

Lol at all the dumbasses acting like he was the victim

[Kurik]

“Multiple” is a broad term, but something tells me it’s not just 2 instances tbh… this dude is probably a serial flasher.

Wouldn't surprise me if he flashed some Spurs employees.

[Uriel]

It’s also noteworthy that the article says other teams are considering claiming him off waivers.

[Dejounte]

So what Antonio Brown did except multiple times. Dude is sick

[Chinook]

Better than it could've been. He may well have legal challenges coming up, and the NBA will likely suspend him to send a message. Could see him back in the NBA eventually if that's all he did and legit addresses the issue.

[BatManu20]

Primo when he walks past security on his way out of AT&T Center for the last time:


https://media.tenor.com/SowiRINcg-AAAAAC/steve-carell-the-office.gif

[Kurik]

I mean unless there is something more than exposing himself, I'm not saying that's okay, but I kind of feel like at 19 you could do more good for him and for the team with some empathy and letting him get help instead of just dumping him for nothing and then refusing to say a word about why so that everyone would start digging and speculating.

I’m just guessing the details will get worse. If this is what we get after 24 hours of radio silence, there could be a lot more unveiled months from now.

[RC_Drunkford]

Probably pulled out on Becky like „you sure you’re lesbian?“

[cd98]

Wasn't Peyton Manning accused of exposing himself to a woman in college?

[GAustex]

Spurs lotto pick is a pervert
Better than a murderer I suppose

[Uriel]

I'm just the messenger, here.

Reddit is what it is, but, there's a rumor that some weird shit went down at the hotel in Minneapolis and Primo got kicked out.
Allegedly, Primo exposed himself to housekeeping. Spurs benched him and did their own investigation the past 3 days and their conclusions led to them waiving him tonight at 5pm.
So this ended up being correct. Would be great if you could link the source.

[BatManu20]

Wasn't Peyton Manning accused of exposing himself to a woman in college?

Yea one of the female trainers while she was working on him in the training room :lol

[mo7888]

Wasn't Peyton Manning accused of exposing himself to a woman in college?

He mooned a chic back in the day if remember right...

[BacktoBasics]

Sources: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34904011/sources-joshua-primo-allegedly-exposed-women

If this ends up being the deal then it better fucking include some level of assault because this is bullshit.

Trade him. Put your franchise first. We’re in no hurry. Wait that shit out like the Texans did and then trade him to recoup something for the loss.

Being a flasher isn’t enough to just give him up for nothing. At this point I’m kinda pissed off at the release.

This fucking team sits on assets to wait for the perfect trades but releases a guy for fucking nothing because he’s a flasher. Absolute garbage response.

This dude gonna go be a shooting guard and light up the league.

[lefty20]

Wasn't Peyton Manning accused of exposing himself to a woman in college?

More than that, iirc. He, allegedly, held one down and put his junk on her face... as a prank.

[K...]

ok but how big we talking? i may claim him of waivers for my own purposes

[CGD]

It’s also noteworthy that the article says other teams are considering claiming him off waivers.

Without more, why wouldn’t they?

I’m not rooting for it to be worse by any means, but seems like this could have been handled differently if it was essentially a George Hill 2.0 situation. Still think there has to be more.

[get_mills_out]

If he Louis CK’ed a couple housekeepers then insta-waiving him was an absurd overreaction. It’s obv very bad & he should take a few months or so to get counseling. Unpaid season long suspension w/ mandatory psych work, fine. let him do some growing up, and come back next year.

it has to be worse than just being a flasher. The Bouknight thing is WAY more dangerous and reckless and he played against us like 2 nights later.

[Leetonidas]

If this ends up being the deal then it better fucking include some level of assault because this is bullshit.

Trade him. Put your franchise first. We’re in no hurry. Wait that shit out like the Texans did and then trade him to recoup something for the loss.

Being a flasher isn’t enough to just give him up for nothing. At this point I’m kinda pissed off at the release.

This fucking team sits on assets to wait for the perfect trades but releases a guy for fucking nothing because he’s a flasher. Absolute garbage response.

This dude gonna go be a shooting guard and light up the league.

Probably more to it. The details in that article are very sparse.

[RC_Drunkford]

There‘s definitely a lot of fucking going on in Spurs culture. Primo, Parker, Udoka, etc. :lmao

[K...]

so sexual lewdidity, high likliness of being sued for (civil) assault, lack of empathy or lack of conviction (the kobe strategy) equals waive i guess.

[Uriel]

So Primo is a nudist :lol That rumor from the four seasons seems to be true. That‘s probably not good for team morale when you know your team mate is pulling out his dick everytime he sees a woman. This dude is a weirdo. I‘m sure some people here can relate :lol
Link to the rumor?

[Chinook]

People are downplaying this hard core. If he's already a predator and has psychological issues, you don't keep him around and cover that shit up. You publicly distance yourself while leaving open informal channels if you actually care about the person. I think the Spurs still like Primo and want him to succeed, but they aren't going to take a huge PR hit for him. For all we know, they've been trying to address this but don't think he'd take it seriously unless he was cut.

[RC_Drunkford]

Link to the rumor?

some guy on reddit said he knows staff from the four seasons in Minneapolis and that he exposed himself there

[flox]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/yg3s39/charania_the_spurs_have_waived_guard_josh_primo/iu7o1uz

[RC_Drunkford]

Basically somebody should‘ve taught Primo how to slide into DMs and not pull out publicly

[BatManu20]

Unless there’s some sort of sexual assault allegations forthcoming, a team will sign him eventually. Indecent exposure is only a Class B Misdemeanor in the state of Texas and most other states, unless it’s his 3rd or 4th offense.

He won’t be signed this season, as he’ll go through rehab and what not. But in a few months he’ll claim he’s been rehabilitated and yada yada, and then he’ll likely be signed by another team next year. Prob a desperate team like the lakers or Knicks tbh.

[Penya]

Link to the rumor?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/yg3s39/comment/iu7o1uz/

[Leetonidas]

People are downplaying this hard core. If he's already a predator and has psychological issues, you don't keep him around and cover that shit up. You publicly distance yourself while leaving open informal channels if you actually care about the person. I think the Spurs still like Primo and want him to succeed, but they aren't going to take a huge PR hit for him. For all we know, they've been trying to address this but don't think he'd take it seriously unless he was cut.

Agree. I think it's weird that some people think it's no big deal to force unwanted parties to see your junk. Shits fucking weird/creepy/predatory as hell

[K...]

I guess, an older or better player (kobe, rodman) would take this and say, hey were team freak, but a 20 yr old bench prospect can't do that and the team probably wouldn't wanted the huge distraction. So whatever you think of PAFTO the players would probably force him out.

[RC_Drunkford]

People are downplaying this hard core. If he's already a predator and has psychological issues, you don't keep him around and cover that shit up. You publicly distance yourself while leaving open informal channels if you actually care about the person. I think the Spurs still like Primo and want him to succeed, but they aren't going to take a huge PR hit for him. For all we know, they've been trying to address this but don't think he'd take it seriously unless he was cut.

yup. Besides that people are saying he got kicked out of the hotel. If that happens multiple times it messes with the Spurs rep. I still think they could‘ve traded him though

[cd98]

From what we know, Deshawn Watson was way worse. He actually assaulted. Exposing himself is not good, but that can be sex addiction related and I kind of feel like there is a better way to deal with it. Maybe they tried and gave him warnings and he refused to get help. But if he is doing it for real, hopefully he will get a second chance.

[TD 21]

People are downplaying this hard core. If he's already a predator and has psychological issues, you don't keep him around and cover that shit up. You publicly distance yourself while leaving open informal channels if you actually care about the person. I think the Spurs still like Primo and want him to succeed, but they aren't going to take a huge PR hit for him. For all we know, they've been trying to address this but don't think he'd take it seriously unless he was cut.

In a cutthroat, ruthless business where the majority give lip service to "character" (whatever the hell that means anyway), why does this franchise think it's incumbent on them to always play holier than thou and live up to some higher ethical/morale code?

If they weren't interested in trying to address it or failed, then he should have been traded. Instead, it's another asset in the garbage and PR hit for the organization that can least afford it.

[Uriel]

So there we have it. Primo suffered childhood sexual trauma, which manifested in him exposing himself to women. This happened most recently at the Four Seasons Hotel in Minneapolis, during which he exposed himself to housekeeping and got kicked out of the hotel.

The Spurs then conducted an investigation three days ago, during which they decided to waive him yesterday based on findings of their investigation.

[flox]

-Primo comes off as a very, very confident person. Like Kobe-level of confidence. I don't know how that factors in ... but I guess it might be notable


I guess you were onto something here...:cry

[LkrFan]

Somewhere, Gary Neal is smiling and nodding his head. Classy of Prim:cry to only expose himself and not rape.

Choo Choo baby :lol

[BatManu20]

Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) get in here and eviscerate PATFO already :lol