Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[K...]

From what we know, Deshawn Watson was way worse. He actually assaulted. Exposing himself is not good, but that can be sex addiction related and I kind of feel like there is a better way to deal with it. Maybe they tried and gave him warnings and he refused to get help. But if he is doing it for real, hopefully he will get a second chance.

assault covers both, exposure with the threat of touching and actual touching, to actual unconsentual sex. in a better world the prosecutor would weigh the behavior with how they charge but in the real world it's based on how easy a case in. For deshaun it's him a celebrity vs asian women. For [primo ,a nobody scrub, against a hotel chain; much much worse.

[ulosturedge]

WTF wasn't Rod Strickland doing the same thing back in the day and we kept his ass didnt we?

[K...]

Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) get in here and eviscerate PATFO already :lol

what does PAFTO have to do about this?

[BatManu20]

WTF wasn't Rod Strickland doing the same thing back in the day and we kept his ass didnt we?

Saint Popovich wasn’t running the show back then tbh.


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1442/8426/products/Fiesta_PopIlluminidol_Celebrity_Prayer_Candle_5a16 121e-c3fe-4823-a150-677d87db05a4_grande.jpg?v=1643134208

[RC_Drunkford]

My question is this: who will be the first rapper to come up with the line „get naked like Primo“

[LkrFan]

When Jeanie Buss sees the photos he'll be a Laker by tomorrow morning :lol

[Ariel]

Probably the tip of the iceberg.

[Dejounte]

Agree. I think it's weird that some people think it's no big deal to force unwanted parties to see your junk. Shits fucking weird/creepy/predatory as hell

Some people here don’t have a mom/ daughter/ sister that they respect is my guess. Dumb incels.

[Extra Stout]

If the Spurs really thought Primo was as good a prospect as they claimed to believe, they would have suspended him and them kept him inactive while he received “mental health treatment.” But since deep down they knew he was a scrub, these episodes provided an excuse to cut him loose without admitting that they screwed up and wasted a lottery pick by drafting him. “How could we have known?” they’ll say.

This way, they can keep their hubris intact.

[Atl Spur]

When Jeanie Buss sees the photos he'll be a Laker by tomorrow morning :lol

Hell naw!! Lol

[ceperez]

The Spurs have 3 other 19 year olds and a ton of other young players. Getting rid of him ASAP was the prudent thing to do.

[Wu36]

Bad timing
Lol yup. I’m and adult I admit defeat. White flag out. Go Spurs go.

[Atl Spur]

Hey cool guys have I missed anything?

[RC_Drunkford]

When Jeanie Buss sees the photos he'll be a Laker by tomorrow morning :lol

that shit cracked me up :lmao

he would be the best shooter on your roster

[ceperez]

If the Spurs really thought Primo was as good a prospect as they claimed to believe, they would have suspended him and them kept him inactive while he received “mental health treatment.” But since deep down they knew he was a scrub, these episodes provided an excuse to cut him loose without admitting that they screwed up and wasted a lottery pick by drafting him. “How could we have known?” they’ll say.

This way, they can keep their hubris intact.

They had to make an example out of him. There are 3 other 19 year old rookies. If he got a free pass, then who knows what the others might do.

[Extra Stout]

And anyone who tries to call the Spurs out on their crap will get the bullshit Woke Outrage treatment. “WOMEN’S SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BASKETBALL YOU MISOGYNIST!!!!!!”

[BatManu20]

It’s always the quiet, reserved ones tbh. Primo was basically a boy-scout during his time here, or so we thought. Turns out he was sex offender the entire time.

[Ariel]

Hey cool guys have I missed anything?
Primo's weenie... or not.

[Dverde]

If it’s just him exposing himself to grown women, some team is going to claim him. Book it. 76ers?

[KobesAchilles]

Does this violate his contract? Do we still have to pay him?

[spurraider21]

Probably the tip of the iceberg.
Pun intended?

[Extra Stout]

They had to make an example out of him. There are 3 other 19 year old rookies. If he got a free pass, then who knows what the others might do.
Sure, the Spurs organization is the only thing standing between their 2022 draft picks and lives of serial rape. Jesus.

[Gibbz]

If the Spurs really thought Primo was as good a prospect as they claimed to believe, they would have suspended him and them kept him inactive while he received “mental health treatment.” But since deep down they knew he was a scrub, these episodes provided an excuse to cut him loose without admitting that they screwed up and wasted a lottery pick by drafting him. “How could we have known?” they’ll say.

This way, they can keep their hubris intact.

It ain't that deep.

[CGD]

Probably the tip of the iceberg.

Agree— I think it is probably coupled with unwanted advances etc. If spurs had knowledge of this from the past, it would make sense they’d cut bait asap just from a liability perspective.

[RC_Drunkford]

It’s always the quiet, reserved ones tbh. Primo was basically a boy-scout during his time here, or so we thought. Turns out he was sex offender the entire time.

yet those are the players the Spurs like to draft

[jeebus]

Neal with it.

[K...]

It’s always the quiet, reserved ones tbh. Primo was basically a boy-scout during his time here, or so we thought. Turns out he was sex offender the entire time.

? you don't know loud rapists?

[InRareForm]

What's up with south Texas teams having perverts

[jeebus]

Should Primo and Udoka remake this commercial?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGjeCbcK28w

[RC_Drunkford]

You gotta factor in that he’s the face of Self, the new jersey sponsor. That makes it a much bigger scandal

[RC_Drunkford]

Should Primo and Udoka remake this commercial?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGjeCbcK28w

Sheesh Gary Neal looks like Dave Chappelle when he’s playing R. Kelly :lol

[SayTown]

If this ends up being the deal then it better fucking include some level of assault because this is bullshit.

Trade him. Put your franchise first. We’re in no hurry. Wait that shit out like the Texans did and then trade him to recoup something for the loss.

Being a flasher isn’t enough to just give him up for nothing. At this point I’m kinda pissed off at the release.

This fucking team sits on assets to wait for the perfect trades but releases a guy for fucking nothing because he’s a flasher. Absolute garbage response.

This dude gonna go be a shooting guard and light up the league.

Pop just wanting to show the world again how much of a liberal feminist he is.

[objective]

It's not a downplay to suggest that this could have been handled with a 'suspension' or sending him to a program for personal reasons for even up to the end of the season. If there's no serious charges ... This probably could have been handled better if only to preserve the asset.

Celtics haven't even fired udoka and there's smoke that he was up to some worse things in their very own workplace.

If they cared about Primo and his future then getting him help from a real program should have been first, then the cut. His statement doesn't exactly reflect a belligerent attitude towards everything so I doubt he refused any other course of action and dared Pop to cut him.

[ducks]

There‘s definitely a lot of fucking going on in Spurs culture. Primo, Parker, Udoka, etc. :lmao

Sj on Amy Duncan

[scott]

In the end, Primo was not a cultural fit.

[ducks]

And anyone who tries to call the Spurs out on their crap will get the bullshit Woke Outrage treatment. “WOMEN’S SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BASKETBALL YOU MISOGYNIST!!!!!!”

Build the wall then
Keep illegals out of our country

[lmbebo]

Guessing we will here assault charges next week?

[Extra Stout]

The other piece of this is potential legal exposure before hotel chains, i.e., large corporations with armies of expensive lawyers. This way, they can do their best to absolve themselves of liability — “as soon as we found out, we cut him.”

[timvp]

Well, damn.

Sounds like the right move. Primo's supposed best attribute was his supposed elite character and his willingness to learn and improve. Take that away and all you have is an unathletic scrub who can't dribble or pass.

I thought it was a bad pick. Turned out to be a terrible pick.

[InRareForm]

Sj on Amy Duncan

Is this for real?

[NASpurs]

I'm just the messenger, here.

Reddit is what it is, but, there's a rumor that some weird shit went down at the hotel in Minneapolis and Primo got kicked out.
Allegedly, Primo exposed himself to housekeeping. Spurs benched him and did their own investigation the past 3 days and their conclusions led to them waiving him tonight at 5pm.

So this seems believable now.

[SayTown]

PATFO have gone soft while Primo is staying hard

[Leetonidas]

Is this for real?

Who knows. Someone said that here and people just took it and ran with it

[siraulo23]

welp

[CGD]

Not sure how serious the Minni hotel rumors are but if it has legs I suspect there could be at least misdemeanor assault charges coming.

[Dejounte]

What value did he have that could be preserved after this? Suspend him, allow him to get treatment, tolerate that he’s recovered from being a sexual predator, then play him a year later to up his value? At some point, you have to draw a line and see things for what it is. It would have been a waste of developmental time for a chance his value would come back to normal. The Spurs don’t need to try to profit from assholes.

[K...]

Sources: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34904011/sources-joshua-primo-allegedly-exposed-women

this is why people say its real, first national story to "allege"

[ducks]

Guessing we will here assault charges next week?

Wonder if the spurs do not have to
Pay him
If they will go after him

[Wu36]

Didn’t live up to his number I take

[Trainwreck2100]

He's a 19 year old who didn't know not to walk around with your dick out. What a dumb fuck reason to cut him

[ducks]

this is why people say its real, first national story to "allege"

Yeah the local sa media sucks donkey balls
They are afraid of the great poop

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Well, damn.

Sounds like the right move. Primo's supposed best attribute was his supposed elite character and his willingness to learn and improve. Take that away and all you have is an unathletic scrub who can't dribble or pass.

I thought it was a bad pick. Turned out to be a terrible pick.

You’ve been defending this pick since day one.

[ducks]

He's a 19 year old who didn't know not to walk around with your dick out. What a dumb fuck reason to cut him

If he did that in your house would you feel the same way with your daughters around

[manufan10]

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[Russ]

Being a flasher isn’t enough to just give him up for nothing. At this point I’m kinda pissed off at the release.

The cynic in me wonders whether Primo's disappointing play wasn't at least a bit of a factor making this an easier decision.


In the end, Primo was not a cultural fit.

In the end, Primo wasn't a point guard.

[objective]

Well, damn.

Sounds like the right move. Primo's supposed best attribute was his supposed elite character and his willingness to learn and improve. Take that away and all you have is an unathletic scrub who can't dribble or pass.

I thought it was a bad pick. Turned out to be a terrible pick.

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think you have to partially blame the vets. They should‘ve shown him how to lowkey get pussy. That‘s why young guys need veteran leadership

[Extra Stout]

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.
Hasn’t Bryan Forbes made All-NBA like eleven times based upon his elite character?

[ducks]

In the end, Primo was not a cultural fit.

In the end he was a dick

[Wu36]

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.
Maybe they liked that he wasn’t shy

[Arcadian]

If this ends up being the deal then it better fucking include some level of assault because this is bullshit.

Trade him. Put your franchise first. We’re in no hurry. Wait that shit out like the Texans did and then trade him to recoup something for the loss.

Being a flasher isn’t enough to just give him up for nothing. At this point I’m kinda pissed off at the release.

This fucking team sits on assets to wait for the perfect trades but releases a guy for fucking nothing because he’s a flasher. Absolute garbage response.

This dude gonna go be a shooting guard and light up the league.

I was thinking the same. There'd better be a rape or murder, or this is bullshit. :lol Acting like he's fucking Jeffrey Dahmer when really he's closer to Louis CK.

[Dejounte]

Again, the lack of empathy by your usual suspects because they don’t know the psychological effects of being violated. Who’s to say Primo didn’t cause trauma to these victims who did. not. want. to. see. what. they. saw. They were forced and when you’re forced, you feel helpless. Look at what the sexual assault did to Brandon Frasier. Dude was so mentally broken down because of what happened to him.

[Extra Stout]

The cynic in me wonders whether Primo's disappointing play wasn't at least a bit of a factor making this an easier decision.
You call it cynical; I call it “observant of human nature.”

[RC_Drunkford]

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.

I‘ve been saying for years that that’s what‘s wrong with the organization. They value high character over basketball skills, yet fell on their face with plenty of those high character guys

[ducks]

I think you have to partially blame the vets. They should‘ve shown him how to lowkey get pussy. That‘s why young guys need veteran leadership

Yeah keeping Becky around and letting her teach him how to get pussy

[Dejounte]

Josh Primo and his girlfriend both deleted their social media accounts.

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah keeping Becky around and letting her teach him how to get pussy

she definitely knows how to eat it

[jeebus]

Josh Primo and his girlfriend both deleted their social media accounts.

"Chasing something..." yeah, the hotel cleaners imo.

[offset formation]

that shit cracked me up :lmao

he would be the best shooter on your roster

And only 5th in TOs.

[Extra Stout]

I‘ve been saying for years that that’s what‘s wrong with the organization. They value high character over basketball skills, yet fell on their face with plenty of those high character guys
They’re as awful at character scouting now as they were great at international scouting twenty years ago.

But there’s a whole subculture built upon valuing moral vanity over tangible results. It’s a status symbol.

[manufan10]

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:lol check the time stamps. No one is "divulging details," while Woj is dropping a bombshell of a detail on Primo's release. Shows what a joke the local media actually are in regards to the Spurs.

[objective]

What value did he have that could be preserved after this? Suspend him, allow him to get treatment, tolerate that he’s recovered from being a sexual predator, then play him a year later to up his value? At some point, you have to draw a line and see things for what it is. It would have been a waste of developmental time for a chance his value would come back to normal. The Spurs don’t need to try to profit from assholes.

The line is always drawn somewhere but also subject to being redrawn. Spurs stood by Buford when his rich self got behind the wheel and put people's lives at risk when he was a middle aged man who knew better and could afford private car service.

Based on this small amount of info put out there, I think it's a big relief that it wasn't something like kids or rape or murder. There were certainly posters here convinced that it had to involve something like that.

Not downplaying indecent exposure or putting some poor maid through a traumatic event at their workplace.

But this is a business, and if they can't squeeze value out of their assets then they are hamstringing themselves. Primo will likely still play in the NBA, and the Spurs not benefiting from that is a problem.

[Arcadian]

Again, the lack of empathy by your usual suspects because they don’t know the psychological effects of being violated. Who’s to say Primo didn’t cause trauma to these victims who did. not. want. to. see. what. they. saw. They were forced and when you’re forced, you feel helpless. Look at what the sexual assault did to Brandon Frasier. Dude was so mentally broken down because of what happened to him.

Oh it's definitely fucked up. Just not as fucked up as we were expecting. :lol There are levels to this.

The issue is that we could've traded him instead of dropping him if there are other teams who would still take him. And if there are other teams who would take him, then dropping him was the wrong move.

[timvp]

You’ve been defending this pick since day one.



https://www.spurstalk.com/joshua-primo-drafted-san-antonio-spurs-thoughts/

Bruh.

[ace3g]

No complaint against Primo has reached the Bexar County District Attorney's Office, Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff told the Express-News."That's the case as far as I know," Wolff said. "I talked to (district attorney) Joe (Gonzales) this morning and he said there isn't anything to investigate, that nothing has been filed with his office."
Spurs Sports & Entertainment chief executive officer R.C. Buford did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
Primo's agent, Todd Ramasar, also did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Report: Spurs waive Primo after allegedly exposing himself (expressnews.com) (https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-waive-Josh-Primo-exposing-himself-17542667.php)

[TD 21]

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.

The people trying to apply real world logic to this just don't get it. This isn't about lacking empathy.

This is fantasy land, where the name of the game is asset management. If some minimal fringe player does this, absolutely you release them almost immediately.

If a teenager who you're as high on as timvp claimed they were does, you exhaust all avenues to extract value for him, especially when you're the last franchise that can continue to waste assets.

[BatManu20]

Yup. Lawsuit time.

1586507239493292032

[LkrFan]

1586507239493292032

:wow

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1586507239493292032

[RC_Drunkford]

Here we go. He did it to a former Spurs employee too and she’s pressing charges

[LkrFan]

Hell naw!! Lol


that shit cracked me up :lmao

he would be the best shooter on your roster

:lol

[offset formation]

Build the wall then
Keep illegals out of our country

No such thing as an illegal, ducks. There are people trying to make better lives for themselves. They're undocumented entrants. And if you had been born in their shoes 100% you'd be the first one making illegal entry.

I swear sone of you fools can't see past your own nose.

[ducks]

1586507239493292032

:wow

What is so shocking
He has money if spurs have to pay him

[lefty20]

Edit: Too late.

shit keeps getting worse... the decisive action the Spurs makes complete sense now.


The only question is when was the first instance reported?

[jeebus]

1586507239493292032

:wow

"But muh mental health!"

[ducks]

No such thing as an illegal, ducks. There are people trying to make better lives for themselves. They're undocumented entrants. And if you had been born in their shoes 100% you'd be the first one making illegal entry.

I swear sone of you fools can't see past your own nose.

So I am just trying to get a better life so I will go to the bank and take 2 millon out and forget the laws

[ducks]

No such thing as an illegal, ducks. There are people trying to make better lives for themselves. They're undocumented entrants. And if you had been born in their shoes 100% you'd be the first one making illegal entry.

I swear sone of you fools can't see past your own nose.


I am just trying to get a better life so you think it be ok if I rob the bank for 2 million.

There is a right way for them to come over that are good people. Do it that way!

[Dejounte]

Yup. Lawsuit time.

1586507239493292032

So he also shat where he ate. Yeah, there was no coming back for Primo. No way you can trust him on company grounds after that. There is no trust. No extracting value when your own employees start to feel uncomfortable around a guy who did it in the same building.

[mystargtr34]

"But muh mental health!"

Funniest part is Twitter dweebs saying “yeah but exposing yourself to people is still a mental health issue” :lol dude is a piece of shit not suffering from mental health issues. Hiding behind mental health makes things harder for the real sufferers

[RC_Drunkford]

And some of y’all were mad that DJ didn‘t embrace Primo :lmao

problems bigger than basketball makes a whole lot of sense now

[ducks]

"But muh mental health!"

Yeah everything is mental now
Just cut his dick off it would fix his issue

[timvp]

Yeah, no, Primo isn't good enough to survive doing that to a Spurs employee.

[Extra Stout]

The people trying to apply real world logic to this just don't get it. This isn't about lacking empathy.

This is fantasy land, where the name of the game is asset management. If some minimal fringe player does this, absolutely you release them almost immediately.

If a teenager who you're as high on as timvp claimed they were does, you exhaust all avenues to extract value for him, especially when you're the last franchise that can continue to waste assets.
This is exactly my point. Actions speak louder than words. The Spurs’ words said they thought Primo was a potential All-Star, but their actions say they thought he was a scrub. The eye test said he was a scrub. So why did they keep insisting he had potential and running him out there as backup point guard when he had no apparent plus NBA skills? Stubbornness? Hubris?

Why should we trust the Spurs’ assessment of “potential” over the eye test ever again?

[mystargtr34]

All starting to make sense now.

[heyheymymy]

man fuck those of you for calling people stupid in a speculation thread. Welcome to conjecture based on a developing story with details being deliberately withheld. If you know info that refutes something just provide that and update the group without mocking.

To be fair, my speculations were not fully informed and once I saw the additional aspects like the media scrubbing of his name I knew it didn't match up with legal mental health issues and said so. I even said I reserved the right to change opinions upon new information during a currently developing story which I did once new details filled in.

lol man it was a breaking story with all the pieces still coming in at the time.

[mystargtr34]

Yeah, no, Primo isn't good enough to survive doing that to a Spurs employee.

Is it Becky tbh?

[offset formation]

So I am just trying to get a better life so I will go to the bank and take 2 millon out and forget the laws

Great analogy.

The undocumented worker gives back to this country. They do very hard jobs for very low wages. They pay taxes.

Of course, a person like yourself sees robbing a bank for self enrichment as the equivalent of feeding your family.

[Extra Stout]

Yeah, no, Primo isn't good enough to survive doing that to a Spurs employee.
What did the Spurs really know and when did they really know it?

I guess the truth will be found out during discovery.

[objective]

If it was in-house and lawsuit/charges incoming, THEN I could understand the sudden cut. Because in-house workplace issues exposes the organization more than on the road at a location like a hotel that they may never be at again.

The Celtics went the other way with a suspension, so that could have been on the table still, but if it's shitting where you eat, hey, got to get rid of the waste.

[CGD]

Yup. Lawsuit time.

1586507239493292032

Here’s the other shoe dropping.

Haven’t followed the NFL litigation and the nature of the claims, but I assume at some point this decision for the Spurs was also about possible legal exposure to the club.

[ChumpDumper]

So now you know why you aren't going to hear anything from anyone in the Spurs org talking about this.

[heyheymymy]

Probably the tip of the iceberg.


lol just the tip?

[BacktoBasics]

Pop just wanting to show the world again how much of a liberal feminist he is.

Stfu asshole. Tired of you political pieces of shit injecting your small dick syndrome into every crevice of life. There’s a reason most of society sneers at you. Fucking insufferable cunts.

[talkspurs]

Do find it intersting that he was not put in the HEB commercials. Is that what is takeing so long they had to remove him? Was he never in them? For him bring the face of the franchise I would think he would be in them.

"The popular Spurs-H-E-B commercials will be debuting very soon.
Starring in this year's batch will be Keldon Johnson, Jeremy Sochan, and Devin Vassell. H-E-B will release them throughout the year and fans can watch the videos on H-E-B’s YouTube page and other social media platforms.4

https://www.kens5.com/article/sports/nba/spurs/win-a-pair-of-custom-spurs-themed-h-e-b-sneakers-which-spurs-will-be-featured-in-new-h-e-b-commercials-nba-san-antonio/273-8d79cc4b-30b1-4a79-ba17-b2d1a68f5cd8

[Leetonidas]

So now you know why you aren't going to hear anything from anyone in the Spurs org talking about this.

Exactly. Lol at ducks :cry the Spurs owe us an explanation:cry

Though I will give him credit for denouncing that behavior

[ducks]

Great analogy.

The undocumented worker gives back to this country. They do very hard jobs for very low wages. They pay taxes.

Of course, a person like yourself sees robbing a bank for self enrichment as the equivalent of feeding your family.

Yeah they make 5k a month in az picking lettuce with no degree because the stupid legal people
Think that job is Below them

[Russ]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1586507239493292032

Well, there's the other shoe.

Now the Spurs have potential liability themselves.

That'll get you moving quick.

[mystargtr34]

What did the Spurs really know and when did they really know it?

I guess the truth will be found out during discovery.

Yeah this is gonna drag out for over a year or two by the time discovery is completed.

Likely settlement will be the outcome just depends when.

[ducks]

So now you know why you aren't going to hear anything from anyone in the Spurs org talking about this.

Yeah how dare they saw he exposed himself
And call the stupid dick out
That is the right think to do instead of running and hiding and afraid of the pr hit

[siraulo23]

rooting for Wesley to pan out and for Tre Jones to keep developing

[gambit1990]

it's neither drug related nor physical injury / terminal illness.
^^

[NASpurs]

Hey at least we're getting the media to follow the team for once. Thanks Josh!

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah how dare they saw he exposed himself
And call the stupid dick out
That is the right think to do instead of running and hiding and afraid of the pr hit

You don't know how anything works, including the US legal system.

[gambit1990]

since it was a spurs employee the spurs are on the hook, right?

what are we talking about, $4 to $10 million?

[CGD]

If it was in-house and lawsuit/charges incoming, THEN I could understand the sudden cut. Because in-house workplace issues exposes the organization more than on the road at a location like a hotel that they may never be at again.

The Celtics went the other way with a suspension, so that could have been on the table still, but if it's shitting where you eat, hey, got to get rid of the waste.

Yes, but even in the Hotel situation if the club had knowledge of his proclivities and still allowed him to travel while knowing that, you can absolutely see an intrepid lawyer trying to go for the deep pockets.

Cutting ties was the only option honestly.

[BacktoBasics]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1586507239493292032

Now this makes more sense. The team clearly has to distance themselves from him immediately. Sitting on him and waiting for a trade then becomes complicated for the organization.

God damn. What a fucking shame.

He’ll land somewhere. The next team has zero legal liability. He’ll settle the it’ll be a fresh start.

[playbonner15]

Yup. Lawsuit time.

1586507239493292032

Yeah read about this and the Minni incident on Reddit. Makes sense with his mental health statement

[timvp]

Who on earth drafts a player whose best attribute is elite character?

That's as stupid as drafting someone because 'they're a winner" like Mateen Cleaves. I thought those old stupid draft traditions died out 20 years ago.

Preaching to the choir, my guy. Picking Primo due to his supposed character was always dumb.

If you want to go deeper, a teen being mature beyond his years is actually a warning sign of trauma. If you're drafting teens, a kid who acts like a kid shouldn't be viewed as a negative.

[offset formation]

Well, there's the other shoe.

Now the Spurs have potential liability themselves.

That'll get you moving quick.

Would love to know the timeline on all this, and what happened when. And when they decided to pick up his 3rd year option if that was already a known, known. If so, I'd think there could most certainly be liability.

[ducks]

Alamo_On_The_Rise ������ alamoOnTheRise
·

Replying to rAmonashelburne and @wojespn
Reminder that Deshaun Watson had 24 women accuse him of sexual misconduct and the Texans still received first-round picks in 2022, 2023 and 2024; a third-round pick in 2022; and a fourth-round pick in 2024.

The Spurs said, nah, we're good.

[objective]

I liked Spure first round busts more when their issues were moodiness and not hustling on the court.

[ducks]

Would love to know the timeline on all this, and what happened when. And when they decided to pick up his 3rd year option if that was already a known, known. If so, I'd think there could most certainly be liability.

I would think it would have not been known unless they are very stupid

[Arcadian]

Gregg sure is an excellent judge of character!

[offset formation]

Preaching to the choir, my guy. Picking Primo due to his supposed character was always dumb.

If you want to go deeper, a teen being mature beyond his years is actually a warning sign of trauma. If you're drafting teens, a kid who acts like a kid shouldn't be viewed as a negative.

Don't you think there's something to them seeing Primo as a guy with the potential to be their next homerun a la neph?

[vy65]

People are downplaying this hard core. If he's already a predator and has psychological issues, you don't keep him around and cover that shit up. You publicly distance yourself while leaving open informal channels if you actually care about the person. I think the Spurs still like Primo and want him to succeed, but they aren't going to take a huge PR hit for him. For all we know, they've been trying to address this but don't think he'd take it seriously unless he was cut.

:lmao

[ducks]

Gregg sure is an excellent judge of character!

He voted for biden enough said

[LkrFan]

1586489901230411776

:lol

[OldMan88]

That’s a pretty major offense, made worse by it involving a Spurs employee. But I can’t help but feel we’ll be waiting for another shoe to fall, and for that other shoe involving a minor…. Unless the former Spurs employee was a minor at the time.

[FireMicoHalili]

Lakers need a shooter so badly they’ll risk the flashing issue and just sign him

[heyheymymy]

love how pop is a woke "liberal feminist" because he waived a sex offender who exposed himself to pop's staff.

[KGB POP]

Stfu asshole. Tired of you political pieces of shit injecting your small dick syndrome into every crevice of life. There’s a reason most of society sneers at you. Fucking insufferable cunts.

What's wrong with having a small dick? Body shaming is acceptable, I guess. Very emphatic and progressive. Bernie by way of Ayn Rand. Interesting.

[RC_Drunkford]

I wouldn‘t even be surprised if DJ knew about this last season, but decided not to snitch

[gambit1990]

spurs had to ditch him asap since it was an employee.

lawyer would've have a field day... "the spurs chose to keep josh with the org until they could find a trade, how convenient for them. they chose to overlook the damage done to one to my client. what an act of utterly gross negligence."

[manufan10]

1586489901230411776

:lol

:lol

[mystargtr34]

Yeah that ex female employee could have easily told Dejounte what happened

[heyheymymy]

makes primos statement total bulshit too. Oh you hope to be able to discuss with the world to help them understand your mental health affliction of being compelled to expose yourself?

[Russ]

Lakers need a shooter so badly they’ll risk the flashing issue and just sign him

Hell, the Lakers will probably set up a "flashing coordinator" and a state of the art "flashing facility."

[Extra Stout]

Alamo_On_The_Rise ������ alamoOnTheRise
·

Replying to rAmonashelburne and @wojespn
Reminder that Deshaun Watson had 24 women accuse him of sexual misconduct and the Texans still received first-round picks in 2022, 2023 and 2024; a third-round pick in 2022; and a fourth-round pick in 2024.

The Spurs said, nah, we're good.
DeShaun Watson is a franchise quarterback. Josh Primo is a scrub. It’s always a business decision balancing the value of the asset against the risk.

[jeebus]

1586489901230411776

:lol
sons I am a bit rooting for a Lonnie/Josh backcourt reunion in LA.

[Kurgan]

Team Sengun stays winning. He may be an undersized center but at least he ain't a sexual predator.

One of the worst Spurs picks of all time. Really goes to show that drafting based on character is a farce since anybody can fake a good interview and pretend to be humble, kind, and hard working. Spurs front office tanking faster than Holt Jr's bank account after all the lawyer fees and settlements.

[gambit1990]

the settlement will be huge. rc and pop don't wanna testify. even teammates could be called to the stand.

[BatManu20]

Yea Spurs definitely made the right decision to cut ties immediately. As gambit stated above, the victim’s lawyers would’ve pounced all over PATFO had they kept him or waited to trade. And they’re already likely going to lose a nice chunk of change in the settlement. And the Spurs better hope it’s not proven that they knew about this for a long time before cutting him… or it’s gonna get messy.

Just a shitty situation all around tbh. Another fuckin whiff of a draft pick. :td

[Monostradamus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln9yywA5Cjs

[CGD]

Now this makes more sense. The team clearly has to distance themselves from him immediately. Sitting on him and waiting for a trade then becomes complicated for the organization.

God damn. What a fucking shame.

He’ll land somewhere. The next team has zero legal liability. He’ll settle the it’ll be a fresh start.

I don’t know man. He’s gotta beat/overcome the legal charges coming, which could take some time.

Also, if you think about it, by compensating the spurs for part of Primos contract a team that claims him is essentially helping to bankroll any payouts he has to make to his accusers. That’s a weird look, but I guess we’ve seen less fucks given by sports teams in other contexts so it may not matter.

[FkLA]

Ok, not trying to be insensitive. I know what he did is sick and obviously wouldn't want that happening to any female I care about...but could this also be a money grab by the female employee? She just coincidentally lawyered up with the same lawyer that secured big paydays for Watson's victims?

IDK I know Primo is a sick dumbass for pulling this shit. But I'll go ahead and say it...the chick seems like she's after a big check moreso than she was traumatized by this.

[InRareForm]

spurs had to ditch him asap since it was an employee.

lawyer would've have a field day... "the spurs chose to keep josh with the org until they could find a trade, how convenient for them. they chose to overlook the damage done to one to my client. what an act of utterly gross negligence."

Like the Texans ? Lol.

[exstatic]

He’ll be on a sex offenders list wherever he lives, for the rest of his life.

[Kurgan]

Primo would be perfect fit on the Lakers. Only organization in the league that celebrates rapists (although Utah is up there with their statues dedicated to pedo Malone)

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo showed no ownership in his statement and it is pretty pathetic now that the story came out and you read what he said last night.

[timvp]

What did the Spurs really know and when did they really know it?

I guess the truth will be found out during discovery.

Exactly what I just said out loud.

Forget whether or not the Spurs should have released Primo. It's obvious that they had to. The real organizational danger now is if the Spurs knew something and sat on it or covered it up. If that happened, people will get fired. I'm not sure that Brian Wright or even RC Buford could survive those allegations.

The word "multiple" in the Woj bomb should be terrifying to everyone in the front office, ownership and Pop himself.

[scott]

Here we go. He did it to a former Spurs employee too and she’s pressing charges

Minor, but important clarification: we don't know that she is pressing charges, just that she hired an attorney. You don't hire an attorney to press charges, you hire an attorney to file a civil complaint. Buzbee is also a scumbag lawyer, but even scumbag lawyers represent real victims.

[offset formation]

Primo apparently does not watch the news as he evidently thought this stuff would stay under wraps (pun intended).

What a fucking dumbass.

[noob cake]

Did Primo chase Becky out of Texas?

[scott]

So I am just trying to get a better life so I will go to the bank and take 2 millon out and forget the laws

ducks has had a fun folks make a run at the title, but always steps up to defend his reign as the dumbest motherfucker on this website full of dumb motherfuckers.

[gambit1990]

Like the Texans ? Lol.
was there a texans employee involved?

football teams make more money than nba teams too. value proposition comes into play.

[heyheymymy]

Spurs would've vetting the accusations and unearthed it if the story didn't add up. Once you're at this point the accusations are legit and substantiated.

[Russ]

I don’t know man. He’s gotta beat/overcome the legal charges coming, which could take some time.

Not to mention the NBA league suspension which will likely be quite long. (Way longer than Watson's.)

The league is already pretty gun shy about these things with the Phoenix owner and Udoka.

Primo looks primed to be made an example of.

[Chomag]

Primo just sent this franchise to Austin tbh

[CGD]

Ok, not trying to be insensitive. I know what he did is sick and obviously wouldn't want that happening to any female I care about...but could this also be a money grab by the female employee? She just coincidentally lawyered up with the same lawyer that secured big paydays for Watson's victims?

IDK I know Primo is a sick dumbass for pulling this shit. But I'll go ahead and say it...the chick seems like she's after a big check moreso than she was traumatized by this.

The point is, when it comes to the decision to cut him, it doesn’t matter. The team is in risk mitigation mode regardless of the various parties’ motives.

[BatManu20]

Imagine it comes out that the Spurs tried to cover it up :lol. Heads will roll, including Pop’s, and we could potentially lose draft capital as a penalty. Could get really ugly.

Hopefully that’s not the case and the victim just accepts a settlement check and we can all just move on tbh.

[offset formation]

Primo showed no ownership in his statement and it is pretty pathetic now that the story came out and you read what he said last night.

much easier to blame alleged sexual abuse against himself as a child. If it's true, it should go to show how widespread this problem is given its affected at least 2 of our recent draft picks. In fact, statistically, there are several people in this forum who are victims and perpetrators of this.

[vy65]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln9yywA5Cjs

[FkLA]

Exactly what I just said out loud.

Forget whether or not the Spurs should have released Primo. It's obvious that they had to. The real organizational danger now is if the Spurs knew something and sat on it or covered it up. If that happened, people will get fired. I'm not sure that Brian Wright or even RC Buford could survive those allegations.

The word "multiple" in the Woj bomb should be terrifying to everyone in the front office, ownership and Pop himself.

IMO if it happened at hotels like has been rumored, that wouldn't have been enough to release him. They valued him too much as a player for that to be enough.

The fact that it's a former employer, seemingly going after a big payday exposes the organization legally and it forced their hand.

[gambit1990]

didn't someone post a thread about the spurs not having one of the better futures in their division?



:convertib

[BillMc]

More minutes for Blake....

[heyheymymy]

Spurs run a tight ship and limit risk I can't fathom a situation where they would knowingly take on serious legal liability to help cover up for a barely fringe contributor to the franchise. Much easier to cut ties instead and preserve the overwhelming rest of the value.

[K...]

Primo apparently does not watch the news as he evidently thought this stuff would stay under wraps (pun intended).

What a fucking dumbass.

Its only public because of the lawyer. Do you think civil lawyers call you ahead of time to be nice?

[jeebus]

Exactly what I just said out loud.

Forget whether or not the Spurs should have released Primo. It's obvious that they had to. The real organizational danger now is if the Spurs knew something and sat on it or covered it up. If that happened, people will get fired. I'm not sure that Brian Wright or even RC Buford could survive those allegations.

The word "multiple" in the Woj bomb should be terrifying to everyone in the front office, ownership and Pop himself.

tbh I don't think that happened imo. The speed in which they dropped his ass leads me to believe it came to light the day of reckoning, considering he was yucking it up on the sidelines the previous game. Then again, people could know. I can see one of the Drunkfords trying to cover it up but not Poop.

[FkLA]

The point is, when it comes to the decision to cut him, it doesn’t matter. The team is in risk mitigation mode regardless of the various parties’ motives.

I get that. No argument there.

I just always feel like everyone automatically goes with the sensitive approach in instances like these. Or at least publicly they do. But honestly, privately (in my mind) I always find myself questioning whether someone is actually traumatized by the event or if they see an easy payday.

[ducks]

Exactly what I just said out loud.

Forget whether or not the Spurs should have released Primo. It's obvious that they had to. The real organizational danger now is if the Spurs knew something and sat on it or covered it up. If that happened, people will get fired. I'm not sure that Brian Wright or even RC Buford could survive those allegations.

The word "multiple" in the Woj bomb should be terrifying to everyone in the front office, ownership and Pop himself.
If they extended him knowing I hope the who front office gets fired and pop
They deserve the pink slip

[cjw]

Now this makes more sense. The team clearly has to distance themselves from him immediately. Sitting on him and waiting for a trade then becomes complicated for the organization.

God damn. What a fucking shame.

He’ll land somewhere. The next team has zero legal liability. He’ll settle the it’ll be a fresh start.

He’s not landing anywhere. He’s out of the league.

Watson is in the NFL because he’s a top 10 QB. Guys like Ray Rice, who had fallen off significantly, don’t get a second chance.

Primo is a dime a dozen prospect and the NBA is way more careful with these things than the NFL. He should go look for a job overseas, if he can even get a visa.

[BatManu20]

Deshaun Watson would be proud tbh.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRoBDWWYAAiLvG?format=jpg&name=small

[Kurgan]

Ok, not trying to be insensitive. I know what he did is sick and obviously wouldn't want that happening to any female I care about...but could this also be a money grab by the female employee? She just coincidentally lawyered up with the same lawyer that secured big paydays for Watson's victims?

IDK I know Primo is a sick dumbass for pulling this shit. But I'll go ahead and say it...the chick seems like she's after a big check moreso than she was traumatized by this.

Multiple victims implies that this isn't just an isolated, one-off incident. Huge ramifications for the Spurs if they kept this under wraps and let him get away with warnings.

[GoSpurs99]

Crazy reading all the posts. This issue is a big societal problem, from Dennis Hastert (2nd in line to the presidency) to incidents involving sports and entertainment figures like Watson and Primo. My own mother was a victim, and it eventually led to her death. My thoughts are with the victims, Primo’s family and loved ones. I hope he can salvage his life.

[K...]

didn't someone post a thread about the spurs not having one of the better futures in their division?



:convertib

Its no different than if he broke his foot. The settlement $ will suck but its not going to be big big $ .

[RC_Drunkford]

Exactly what I just said out loud.

Forget whether or not the Spurs should have released Primo. It's obvious that they had to. The real organizational danger now is if the Spurs knew something and sat on it or covered it up. If that happened, people will get fired. I'm not sure that Brian Wright or even RC Buford could survive those allegations.

The word "multiple" in the Woj bomb should be terrifying to everyone in the front office, ownership and Pop himself.

good. The FO been needing some changes. Kick all these oldass „we need to make these players better human beings“ guys out and bring in some folks who actually care about basketball

[ducks]

tbh I don't think that happened imo. The speed in which they dropped his ass leads me to believe it came to light the day of reckoning, considering he was yucking it up on the sidelines the previous game. Then again, people could know. I can see one of the Drunkfords trying to cover it up but not Poop.

Maybe the lawsuit is coming came out to them
They then scrubbed kind of like Clinton did to her server after told she could not

[Russ]

Spurs run a tight ship and limit risk I can't fathom a situation where they would knowingly take on serious legal liability to help cover up for a barely fringe contributor to the franchise. Much easier to cut ties instead and preserve the overwhelming rest of the value.

Defense Exhibit Number 1 for the Spurs that they didn't know about this:

They recently gave Primo an extension (which they now have to eat).

That may be the best $8 million they ever spent.

[objective]

Not to mention the NBA league suspension which will likely be quite long. (Way longer than Watson's.)

The league is already pretty gun shy about these things with the Phoenix owner and Udoka.

Primo looks primed to be made an example of.

From what I've heard, I don't think the NBA itself issues suspensions for off the court stuff without players being found guilty or an equivalent plea.

That's why Bridges in Charlotte hasn't been suspended despite felony charges. He's just in limbo because this stuff popped up right as he became a free agent

[gambit1990]

Multiple victims implies that this isn't just an isolated, one-off incident. Huge ramifications for the Spurs if they kept this under wraps and let him get away with warnings.
i was gonna say there's no way upper management would've known and kept this under wraps.

but tbh, maybe they did know of it happening once... or heard rumors ...

[heyheymymy]

I will say I love the narrative for Blake Wesley now.

Maybe he's still raw and not really ready but then the storyline hits. His team comes to him saying he must step into a expanded role sooner than he may be ready for because the guy ahead of him for the promotion betrayed the team. Now it's Blakes destiny to step into possibly bigger shoes than he can immediately fill but there's no time to even over think about it because he's the only hope now to recover what's been lost. Blake is now forged by sheer survival necessity. The pressure turns diamonds out.

A destiny character arc.

[Chomag]

Well this Organization is very good at not revealing anything so idk..

[manufan10]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRoBDWWYAAiLvG?format=jpg&name=small

I found this one earlier:


https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312855729_10166540452345315_7723674894123354043_n. jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p480x480&_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=LQZen8xBOVgAX-N8D_R&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfAZGdumbB_MblqoL8XBlHapD8X_FadA1fKT3Mu3PHbX aQ&oe=636339B3

[Russ]

From what I've heard, I don't think the NBA itself issues suspensions for off the court stuff without players being found guilty or an equivalent plea.

That's why Bridges in Charlotte hasn't been suspended despite felony charges. He's just in limbo because this stuff popped up right as he became a free agent

Makes sense. The NBA players have a way stronger union than those NFL no guaranteed contracts cannon fodder guys.

[MannyIsGod]

What did the Spurs really know and when did they really know it?

I guess the truth will be found out during discovery.

Going to be really bad if they knew about it a while ago. Especially because of the rep they try to maintain. But also, I don't think they would have risked it for Primo.

[ducks]

Ben Dover-Richardson RichardsonDover
Sources tell me that Josh Primo was sexually assaulted by a female employee and she exposed him. Shame on the spurs for cutting a victim.
5:08 PM · Oct 29, 2022

[ducks]

BGDEZ
@BGDEZ2
·
1h
Replying to rAmonashelburne
and
@wojespn
Why do pro sports teams keep trying to hide and protect these guys?The Spurs need to be investigated!

[jeebus]

Ben Dover-Richardson Richard (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14387)sonDover
Sources tell me that Josh Primo was sexually assaulted by a female employee and she exposed him. Shame on the spurs for cutting a victim.
5:08 PM · Oct 29, 2022

Yes but what does I.P. Freely have to say about this?

[CGD]

tbh I don't think that happened imo. The speed in which they dropped his ass leads me to believe it came to light the day of reckoning, considering he was yucking it up on the sidelines the previous game. Then again, people could know. I can see one of the Drunkfords trying to cover it up but not Poop.

I tend to agree. The speed with which the moved and the fact that the really invested a lot into him as the future face, leads me to believe this was “news” to them too.

[GAustex]

good. The FO been needing some changes. Kick all these oldass „we need to make these players better human beings“ guys out and bring in some folks who actually care about basketball

[K...]

Ben Dover-Richardson RichardsonDover
Sources tell me that Josh Primo was sexually assaulted by a female employee and she exposed him. Shame on the spurs for cutting a victim.
5:08 PM · Oct 29, 2022

Bad ducks. Bad

[Leetonidas]

ducks :lmao

[poopbox]

And some of y’all were mad that DJ didn‘t embrace Primo :lmao

problems bigger than basketball makes a whole lot of sense now

Multiple posters on this site always talking about Murray's "immaturity" and somehow questioning his character and talking about how he was not "spurs material"...

And now the guy who is replacing him is out here whipping his dick out at work like some retarded man child and trying to pull a "b-b-b-but my mental health I didn't know I couldn't pull my dick out at work pray for me to get better" :lmao

[mystargtr34]

Yes but what does I.P. Freely have to say about this?

Apparently Phil McHawk was also a victim.

[Chomag]

I tend to agree. The speed with which the moved and the fact that the really invested a lot into him as the future face, leads me to believe this was “news” to them too.

Maybe but there is aLso a possibility that they found out their cover up was going to be leaked and exposed.

This didn't seem to be an isolated event if the word" Multiple "hold some weight to it

[offset formation]

Its only public because of the lawyer. Do you think civil lawyers call you ahead of time to be nice?

Was referencing the DeShaun Watson affair.

[RC_Drunkford]

1586509637318238209 (https://twitter.com/cocksources/status/1586509637318238209?s=21)

[heyheymymy]

Huge blessing in disguise if Spurs can navigate out of this legally speaking because in looking at the roster construction and Primo's flat development it looks like Primo was the weak link on this team and kind of a turd clog in team concept.

This clears the most questionable contributor with possibly the weakest shown promise and stops the decay of potential behind Primo (Blake and Bran and in foresight, possibly more FRPs in 2023)

Primo was getting better, and he was picked so green you couldn't really expect much at this point anyway, but the eye test on almost everyone else was so much more encouraging to me.

[offset formation]

good. The FO been needing some changes. Kick all these oldass „we need to make these players better human beings“ guys out and bring in some folks who actually care about basketball

tbh honest they have a team that vegas gave the lowest championship odds playing like a marginal playoff team at present. Coaching em up haw never been the problem

[RC_Drunkford]

tbh honest they have a team that vegas gave the lowest championship odds playing like a marginal playoff team at present. Coaching em up haw never been the problem

and you think that is good when we just traded our All-Star PG away and are actually trying to tank?

[timvp]

Unless the ex Spurs employee has a video, Primo basically admitting to guilt with that press release is some room temperature IQ stuff, tbh.

[heyheymymy]

bet the spurs are privately thrilled to have an objective justification to jettison the biggest efficiency drain in the entire franchise

well my hands are tied, guess I gotta cut the leading statistical deadweight by every metric

bet the other players feel like new men last night.

[poopbox]

Unless the ex Spurs employee has a video, Primo basically admitting to guilt with that press release is some room temperature IQ stuff, tbh.

I mean he is 19 and seems to have been pulling his dick out alot at work. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer tbh.

[vy65]

What an absolute joke of an organization. With Primo, the FO's obsession with "high character" guys revealed itself to be the farce that it is. You have an absolute waste of a pick ostensibly justified by the vetting performed during the combine - vetting that supposedly showed Primo to be a "mature" cultural fit - all of which turned out to be egregiously wrong. Actually, it that decision and that pick weren't just wrong - it's actually an existential threat to the organization. Litigation over allegations of sexual assault, in this social climate and in this league, is nothing short of disastrous. It kills the brand that supposedly prioritizes character, maturity, etc... You can't make those claims when Buzbee is arguing to a jury that SS&E chooses 19 year olds with "trauma" who flash their dicks to multiple women.

Choosing players based on their character - not talent - is misguided. The whole purpose of picking "high character guys" is to ensure cohesion and stability - it's to ensure that this exact scenario never happens. But it did. Primo laid bare that this organization can't accurately vet and find the real "high character guys." From an ownership perspective, your diversity hire GM, senile coach, and absentee/drunk CEO have hurt your brand, cost your competitiveness, and opened you up to litigation. That is the definition of failed leadership.

[Ocotillo]

Somewhere, Uncle Dennis is thinking to himself, "damn, if that was all it took to get out of SA"

[BacktoBasics]

BGDEZ
@BGDEZ2
·
1h
Replying to rAmonashelburne
and
@wojespn
Why do pro sports teams keep trying to hide and protect these guys?The Spurs need to be investigated!

That’s a fake account you dumb fuck.

[heyheymymy]

Sucks for the front office because one thing about a reach is you better be right because if anything goes wrong everyone will just say see this is why you just take the BPA, if you hadn't reached on Primo you wouldn't be in this mess right now. Getting clever sticks your neck out.

[ducks]

So the spurs knew dick about the primo and they picked him

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln9yywA5Cjs

Atl Spur

[slick'81]

Sucks for the front office because one thing about a reach is you better be right because if anything goes wrong everyone will just say see this is why you just take the BPA, if you hadn't reached on Primo you wouldn't be in this mess right now. Getting clever sticks your neck out.

No way they could of known this dude was a flasher

[Russ]

So the spurs knew dick about the primo and they picked him

Suh, they knew he was hah morals gentleman from the Alabama Crimson Tide, suh.

[heyheymymy]

Also Blake Wesley, after probably being surprised at the call up and gettin thrown in the lions den with zero prep was 4 AST / 1 TO

Already took care of the ball better than Primo

Primo's most recent box score, 10/24 was 2 / 4

[heyheymymy]

No way they could of known this dude was a flasher

So much for Spurs character profile assessments

[ChumpDumper]

I'd guess there is a small chance the employee stuff was known and the Spurs org was working to resolve it one way or another (not enough evidence for a criminal case, etc.), then the hotel incident ended everything.

Really weird seeing posters trying to say it's no biggie.

[LkrFan]

sons I am a bit rooting for a Lonnie/Josh backcourt reunion in LA.

Cool with me. Beggers can't be choosy :cry

[vy65]

No way they could of known this dude was a flasher

Too bad. If they couldn't have known - or if they couldn't have discovered that - then don't make the pick. If you're not 100% sure what you're getting when you make an absurd selection like that at #12, then you gotta live with the consequences.

[GAustex]

What an absolute joke of an organization. With Primo, the FO's obsession with "high character" guys revealed itself to be the farce that it is. You have an absolute waste of a pick ostensibly justified by the vetting performed during the combine - vetting that supposedly showed Primo to be a "mature" cultural fit - all of which turned out to be egregiously wrong. Actually, it that decision and that pick weren't just wrong - it's actually an existential threat to the organization. Litigation over allegations of sexual assault, in this social climate and in this league, is nothing short of disastrous. It kills the brand that supposedly prioritizes character, maturity, etc... You can't make those claims when Buzbee is arguing to a jury that SS&E chooses 19 year olds with "trauma" who flash their dicks to multiple women.

Choosing players based on their character - not talent - is misguided. The whole purpose of picking "high character guys" is to ensure cohesion and stability - it's to ensure that this exact scenario never happens. But it did. Primo laid bare that this organization can't accurately vet and find the real "high character guys." From an ownership perspective, your diversity hire GM, senile coach, and absentee/drunk CEO have hurt your brand, cost your competitiveness, and opened you up to litigation. That is the definition of failed leadership.
That is the definition of failed leadership.

[ChumpDumper]

Staying for the meltdowns.:corn:

[Chomag]

I really do hope they didn't pick up his option after knowing some if this...

[timvp]

Yeah, I don't think Tony or Manu survive a such a lawsuit brought on by an ex female employee. Duncan or Robinson probably go the Watson route. But Primo? Yeah, no, hell no, he had to be released.

The "Spurs should have maximized his value and traded him away" take is pretty dumb, tbh. Primo was regarded as a likely second round pick. He showed flashes but if a panicked Spurs organization puts him on the trade market, the very most they would have gotten is a second round pick in return ... and that's best case scenario. Other teams would have known something was seriously wrong.

Waiving Primo didn't sacrifice value. He didn't have any value.

[FkLA]

I find it hard to believe some dude who supposedly knows someone on OKC's g-league team would know more than say timvp...but FWIW someone sent me this screenshot:

https://i.postimg.cc/QtLZngFx/IMG-20221029-201342.png

[BacktoBasics]

So the spurs knew dick about the primo and they picked him

Why do you constantly say the dumbest fucking shit.

Show us where you can predict this. I want you to do the research and actually prove the idiotic shit that comes out of your mouth.

Be right. I want you to give the exact information and examples that would have red flagged this kid as a flasher.

Do it… and show us all just how a dumb fuck worthless piece of shit such as yourself can see plain as day this was foreseeable.

God damn you’re fucking annoying. If there was ever a person I’d celebrate the death of it’s you. Just something god awful. Like you were walking down the street and you went to pick up something dropped by a nice local kid. And. BAM. You get smashed by a drunk driver.

I’d absolutely buy that guy another drink.

Fucking hate your existence here.

[Number 2]

LOL at all the boneheads thinking he murdered someone

[Dverde]

He could be prosecuted and deported which would end his short career. I didn’t think he’d be an All-Star, but I thought he’d have a long NBA career. Hope he learns from this and does something positive with his life.

[timvp]

I find it hard to believe some dude who supposedly knows someone on OKC's g-league team would know more than say timvp...but FWIW someone sent me this screenshot:

https://i.postimg.cc/QtLZngFx/IMG-20221029-201342.png

I mean, who knows, but Primo wasn't suspended Wednsday. He was on the bench leading the cheers.

[vy65]

Thinking this through, I would think ownership should be having a conversation about cleaning house. So much of the Spurs brand is tied up with being progressive - Becky, the new chick they hired, Pop's comments about NASA, etc... That brand has no credibility after this. I can't see how people would take any of that seriously with a 19 year old flashing staffers repeatedly (allegedly). You have a weak product (attendance has been dropping from being 13th in the league in 2019, to 12th in 2020, to 10th in 2021, to 27th in 2022, to 25th this year so far) already and now a scandal from an absolutely unjustifiable lotto pick one year ago. Maybe Pop or RC stays on, but if people like Brian Wright aren't getting shit canned, how much responsibility can the organization say it takes for its own mistakes? They just pay millions of dollars to players they cut days later?

[Number 2]

:reading

[Number 2]

Unless the ex Spurs employee has a video, Primo basically admitting to guilt with that press release is some room temperature IQ stuff, tbh.

There must be some hard evidence. He's basically skipped deniability and moved right to playing the victim. Very unlikely that press release was made without his lawyer.

[Russ]

On draft night, the moment of the pick:


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https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296973&page=3&p=10564639&viewfull=1#post10564639

Rather prophetic, I would say.

[ducks]

Why do you constantly say the dumbest fucking shit.

Show us where you can predict this. I want you to do the research and actually prove the idiotic shit that comes out of your mouth.

Be right. I want you to give the exact information and examples that would have red flagged this kid as a flasher.

Do it… and show us all just how a dumb fuck worthless piece of shit such as yourself can see plain as day this was foreseeable.

God damn you’re fucking annoying. If there was ever a person I’d celebrate the death of it’s you. Just something god awful. Like you were walking down the street and you went to pick up something dropped by a nice local kid. And. BAM. You get smashed by a drunk driver.

I’d absolutely buy that guy another drink.

Fucking hate your existence here.


Cry me a river


Spurs spent millions on scouting and shoving character down our throat. Pop there is more to life than basketball. And another guy has more talent but acts like a 19
Year old but spurs can not pick him. He has bad character but this guy character is great. Exposes himself them
Blocks the exit.

Cut his dick off

[JakeCuenca]

Thinking this through, I would think ownership should be having a conversation about cleaning house. So much of the Spurs brand is tied up with being progressive - Becky, the new chick they hired, Pop's comments about NASA, etc... That brand has no credibility after this. I can't see how people would take any of that seriously with a 19 year old flashing staffers repeatedly (allegedly). You have a weak product (attendance has been dropping from being 13th in the league in 2019, to 12th in 2020, to 10th in 2021, to 27th in 2022, to 25th this year so far) already and now a scandal from an absolutely unjustifiable lotto pick one year ago. Maybe Pop or RC stays on, but if people like Brian Wright aren't getting shit canned, how much responsibility can the organization say it takes for its own mistakes? They just pay millions of dollars to players they cut days later?

“Progressive” brand is exactly why they’re a shit organizations.

the Spurs thinking they’re bigger than the most basic basketball concept

[JakeCuenca]

Cry me a river


Spurs spent millions on scouting and shoving character down our throat. Pop there is more to life than basketball. And another guy has more talent but acts like a 19
Year old but spurs can not pick him. He has bad character but this guy character is great. Exposes himself them
Blocks the exit.

Cut his dick off

ducks, do you think the ultra liberal is part of the reason why Spurs are failing?

[heyheymymy]

vy65 trying so hard to spin this against Spurs culture

Primo's culture is Primo's culture. No one else's.

[Chomag]

Spurs will be fine without Primo...

What's not fine is them wasting their lottery 12th pick on him, he was a mid second rounder at best and everyone else in the league knew this. So that mistake was already set in motion on draft day before any of this. Its hard to believe that the 2021 draft is a complete wash only a season after.

To say that this Organization deserves no criticism is either in complete denial or just plain dumb.

[vy65]

vy65 trying so hard to spin this against Spurs culture

Primo's culture is Primo's culture. No one else's.

There's no spin at all, you just don't understand how organizations work.

[heyheymymy]

There's no spin at all, you just don't understand how organizations work.

oh wow so explain it to me, the Spurs org was like whoa primo you like pulling it out too? So do we! You're hired!

[ChumpDumper]

There's no spin at all, you just don't understand how organizations work.You do?

[Shohoku High]

Boys will be boys is not an excuse for bad behavior.

Spurs got too much male sexual behavior issues that have not been addressed over the years.

Prime example are Parker, Udoka and now Primo.

[heyheymymy]

I'm def now going to be on Sengun watch and that's prob gonna sting at times.

[ducks]

ducks, do you think the ultra liberal is part of the reason why Spurs are failing?
All they do is sit and get drunk and never did their job since 2016
Spurs have sucked since then. They still have not recovered after Biden took office


Or

Maybe pop wife was the real reason they did not suck
I know she kepted him in check and was a decent person before she passed.

[vy65]

You do?

More so than most, yes.

[BacktoBasics]

Cry me a river


Spurs spent millions on scouting and shoving character down our throat. Pop there is more to life than basketball. And another guy has more talent but acts like a 19
Year old but spurs can not pick him. He has bad character but this guy character is great. Exposes himself them
Blocks the exit.

Cut his dick offI hope you lose a leg in tractor accident or at least stub your toe in the middle of the night getting your fat hog of a wife a midnight bowl of ice cream.

[ducks]

vy65 trying so hard to spin this against Spurs culture

Primo's culture is Primo's culture. No one else's.

Spurs said be our poster boy



Atleast Leonard had a death (his dad and he never
Recovered) that caused his issues and greedy uncle

[heyheymymy]

well time will tell

who ever said boys will be boys on this issue? Primo got waived so ???

if spurs acted with even a shread of impropriety it will be exposed

if not then it was addressed as properly as possible

[ChumpDumper]

More so than most, yes.And yet this one you follow closely is a complete mystery to you.

[BacktoBasics]

All they do is sit and get drunk and never did their job since 2016
Spurs have sucked since then. They still have not recovered after Biden took office


Or

Maybe pop wife was the real reason they did not suck
I know she kepted him in check and was a decent person before she passed.
Yeah you’re a fucking genius. Biden taking office is why the spurs are struggling.

You fucking people are a collective mental illness.

Mental illness runs in your family now doesn’t it.

[ducks]

I hope you lose a leg in tractor accident or at least stub your toe in the middle of the night getting your fat hog of a wife a midnight bowl of ice cream.

So are you ok with the person that attacked Nancy husband because he did not like them

[BatManu20]

Sengun was almost universally considered BPA when the Spurs were on the clock at 12. They tried to get cute and it backfired horribly. Just a rough situation all-around tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

who ever said boys will be boys on this issue?Like 20 ST posters after the news came out.

[ulosturedge]

Is Devin Vassell associated with all this? I find it strange he was in street clothes the same time Primo was, or does he really have an injury?