Atlanta Hawks 2025 Draft Pick Watch

[cd98]

Are we sure 76ers won't start tanking?

[montgod]

True, just saying that the worse record teams have huge incentive to keep being worse.

Except for the Hawks

[montgod]

Are we sure 76ers won't start tanking?

They were just rumored to be players for Butler so... I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[montgod]

Forget the Bulls, they are one of the teams ready to tank the season.

I agree, but they can't do it without getting rid of some of their big money guys (levine, Vuc, etc)

[MannyIsGod]

Brother if you think this was the worst take then you truly have shit for brains. Stop with the hyperbole you fucking dope.

And I already said Philly might catch them, you little imbecile.

From insurmountable to they might catch them in no time. You truly are the worst poster here by such a wide margin.

[MannyIsGod]

Are we sure 76ers won't start tanking?

At some point it will make the most sense. There's definitely a possibility they will. There's also a chance they make a deal at the deadline and mortgage their future for a chance to be better now.

[LeBowen]

At some point it will make the most sense. There's definitely a possibility they will. There's also a chance they make a deal at the deadline and mortgage their future for a chance to be better now.

Their 2025 FRP is top6 protected. They can't get into top6 worst teams, they'd just make things even worse.
It's time to fire Morey. He failed and ruined all the relationships he could in the process.

[Sugus]

That would be beyond awful, and I don't really see the upgrade in the long run, tbh.

How's the current Fox news hitting, then? It is another example of precisely the type of trade I've been having a feeling about.

The news been hitting like crack today tbh :lol. Devin Vassell and some picks for De'Aaron Fox? Fuck yes, please and thank you...

[Mal]

Are we sure 76ers won't start tanking?

They cant, OKC have their pick and it's protected top 6 or something. They would have to basically lose out to be in bottom 5, because 6 does not good for them. And they are teams already hard tanking like Wizards, Hornets, Jazz, Raptors and Nets.

[mystargtr34]

Let’s go Rockettes!!

[spursparker9]

Ice Trae is back. Houston on 2nd night of b2b.

Fuck the hawks

[slick'81]

Jalen green embarrassing the hawks

[DPG21920]

76ers smashing Lakers and HOU after a 14TO first half, having a nice third here.

[tbdog]

Hawks losing while Sixers rising, also means Bulls might drop into the bottom 10. I prefer Hawks dropping out though.

[slick'81]

Rockets up 7 with 1 minute to go

[scott]

Rockets trying to give this game away

[slick'81]

Hawks cut to 3with 45 seconds

[slick'81]

Brooks trying to fight guys

[mudyez]

Fuck...not another buzzer win

[slick'81]

Trae flopping

[scott]

I don't understand how in the nba you can fall down and slide across the floor with the ball and that's not travelling, but if you move your pivot foot a millimeter the ref suddenly has superman vision and calls it

[scott]

Hunter in and out. We may just get out of here alive. I hate rooting for the rockets.

[slick'81]

Hawks lose hawks lose

[TXstbobcat]

Thank you Rockets!

Guessing this hawks pick will become property of the Kings in a trade for Fox.

[onechance87]

fck u atl that was close

[Seventyniner]

Hawks going on a losing streak just in time to raise the value of ATL25 to sweeten the Fox trade.

[heyheymymy]

Hawks L6

wow

[SpursGenius]

Hawks going on a losing streak just in time to raise the value of ATL25 to sweeten the Fox trade.
we arent giving up FRPs for a guy who plays no defense and we can get for free next year. Also guy cant hit three consistently. He is 27 relies on quickness so prime only 3-4 years max.

[DPG21920]

Hawks play CLE next. A team that they beat 2x already and hopefully will want revenge.

[scott]

Hawks play CLE next. A team that they beat 2x already and hopefully will want revenge.

CLE by 40, lfg

[spursparker9]

If this pick to traded to SAC for Fox, we can close this thread already :lol

[BatManu20]

Big hit for ATL tbh.

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[RC_Drunkford]

Oh yeah. Looks like we‘re catching a break :stirpot:

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[DPG21920]

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[Atl Spur]

Like I said before, you never know what a season holds….. unprotected picks are gold! Bars

[spurraider21]

Man, he was really on a tear

[mikec]

Burn ATL burn!!!

[Mugen]

Losing JJ is a huge hit.

I don't see them cracking bottom 8 but i think there's a real chance they miss the play in.

Would be great if Chicago/Toronto/Philly didn't all out tank at the deadline. But I think they will.

[LeBowen]

Great news for Sacramento.

[objective]

Ok, now that pick might be something. I posted it before in this thread that Jalen Johnson was the straw that stirs the drink and 5he player that matters most to their success, not Trae Young.

The next big question is whether ATL accepts their fate this year and rests Young more to keep his Achilles issue from becoming a major injury knowing that without Johnson they have no chance at a fun run in the playoffs

[Mal]

oh men, Sacramento would love to have their 2025 pick right now

[spurraider21]

Great news for Sacramento.
:lol

[Ginobili2Duncan]

I’d be shocked if Johnson ever stays healthy. He was hurt at Duke, hurt last year and now this year. This why I was against trading this year’s ATL pick. Depending on what PHI and CHI do, the Spurs have a real shot at getting a top 5 pick this summer while they can focus on making the play-in this season.

[Mr. Body]

I’d be shocked if Johnson ever stays healthy. He was hurt at Duke, hurt last year and now this year. This why I was against trading this year’s ATL pick. Depending on what PHI and CHI do, the Spurs have a real shot at getting a top 5 pick this summer while they can focus on making the play-in this season.

I don't think he was hurt at Duke. He just up and quit.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, Coach called dude out for not hustling and he outright quit in the middle of the season. By most accounts he was a complete asshole to everyone.

[CGD]

Great news for Sacramento.

I kinda think this is more reason to wait until the summer on Fox, that, or secure a Top-1 protection.

[Mr. Body]

I kinda think this is more reason to wait until the summer on Fox, that, or secure a Top-1 protection.

Yeah, no way you trade this pick. lmao

[spurraider21]

time for 5D chess guys

Jalen Johnson being out means there is now a stronger chance the hawks miss the playoffs. any thoughts of a cinderella run can be put to bed. this is a lost season for them.

with that being the case, tanking does them no good, as they dont own their pick. they also are projected to be above the cap. without cap space, without their first round pick, will be tough to make improvements.

their main incoming asset is a top 12 protected pick coming from sacto (huerter). as of right now, sacto's projected pick is #13. if sacramento trades fox, it makes it increasingly likely that the hawks will not get that pick this year either. therefore, the worst case scenario for ATL this year is for their season to go down the drain, winding up in the lottery, with the kings also trading fox and getting a better lotto pick, thereby not conveying to ATL

therefore, ATL trading Trae to SA, getting their picks back... allows them to completely bottom out this year and get their shot at Flagg, while also preventing Sacto from unloading Fox, and increasing the odds of them receiving the kings pick as well

the spurs entertain this publicly (or leak it to reporters via "sources"), and then we put Sacto in a position where they may have to lower their asking price for Fox, since the spurs now have options beyond simply waiting until 2026

[Atl Spur]

time for 5D chess guys

Jalen Johnson being out means there is now a stronger chance the hawks miss the playoffs. any thoughts of a cinderella run can be put to bed. this is a lost season for them.

with that being the case, tanking does them no good, as they dont own their pick. they also are projected to be above the cap. without cap space, without their first round pick, will be tough to make improvements.

their main incoming asset is a top 12 protected pick coming from sacto (huerter). as of right now, sacto's projected pick is #13. if sacramento trades fox, it makes it increasingly likely that the hawks will not get that pick this year either. therefore, the worst case scenario for ATL this year is for their season to go down the drain, winding up in the lottery, with the kings also trading fox and getting a better lotto pick, thereby not conveying to ATL

therefore, ATL trading Trae to SA, getting their picks back... allows them to completely bottom out this year and get their shot at Flagg, while also preventing Sacto from unloading Fox, and increasing the odds of them receiving the kings pick as well

the spurs entertain this publicly (or leak it to reporters via "sources"), and then we put Sacto in a position where they may have to lower their asking price for Fox, since the spurs now have options beyond simply waiting until 2026

Look at you…… ok, I see ya!

[LeBowen]

Jalen Johnson being out means there is now a stronger chance the hawks miss the playoffs

Hawks still have no incentive to tank.
Bulls and Sixers both need to overtake Hawks in the standings for them to drop out of the play-in.
Bulls will probably give away both Lavine and Vucevic to keep their pick.

While Hawks will continue their slide, it won't be enough to drop them down to 11th seed.
They'll likely finish with 10th best odds.


therefore, ATL trading Trae to SA, getting their picks back... allows them to completely bottom out this year and get their shot at Flagg, while also preventing Sacto from unloading Fox, and increasing the odds of them receiving the kings pick as well

As I wrote in Fox topic, I think Hawks will definitely be involved in the trade with Spurs and Kings.
Something like '25 SAC and Hunter to get their picks back is a possibility.
Actually, I think that best case scenario for the Hawks would be getting their picks back, with Trae going to Sacramento.

Kings would stay on a similar level with Fox/Trae trade, Spurs would get better and Hawks would be able to tank.

[DPG21920]

time for 5D chess guys

Jalen Johnson being out means there is now a stronger chance the hawks miss the playoffs. any thoughts of a cinderella run can be put to bed. this is a lost season for them.

with that being the case, tanking does them no good, as they dont own their pick. they also are projected to be above the cap. without cap space, without their first round pick, will be tough to make improvements.

their main incoming asset is a top 12 protected pick coming from sacto (huerter). as of right now, sacto's projected pick is #13. if sacramento trades fox, it makes it increasingly likely that the hawks will not get that pick this year either. therefore, the worst case scenario for ATL this year is for their season to go down the drain, winding up in the lottery, with the kings also trading fox and getting a better lotto pick, thereby not conveying to ATL

therefore, ATL trading Trae to SA, getting their picks back... allows them to completely bottom out this year and get their shot at Flagg, while also preventing Sacto from unloading Fox, and increasing the odds of them receiving the kings pick as well

the spurs entertain this publicly (or leak it to reporters via "sources"), and then we put Sacto in a position where they may have to lower their asking price for Fox, since the spurs now have options beyond simply waiting until 2026

It makes sense. The best case for SA though is report Trae is asking for a trade like Fox as well. It may not do too much to pick this year since we are half way through season already but it impacts swap and 27.

They are a fringe PO team with Trae and other guys and now it just got harder. Does Trae ask out because he wants to win and has a deal coming up like Fox where he will want to be all nba etc…

[DPG21920]

There is a path, like we saw with HOU, to give ATL picks back so they can tank IF SA is compensated for allowing this. Meaning they get equal picks back + sweetener.

If this means Trae gets to SAC then that’s enough comp for Fox straight up. So SA gets Fox, Kings get their guy in terms of value and SA should not have to give up anything else other than ATL picks in 25 & 27 then + matching salaries not including Sochan or Castle.

[CorrectCrusader]

Things just heavily went in our favor this season.

[CorrectCrusader]

There is a path, like we saw with HOU, to give ATL picks back so they can tank IF SA is compensated for allowing this. Meaning they get equal picks back + sweetener.

If this means Trae gets to SAC then that’s enough comp for Fox straight up. So SA gets Fox, Kings get their guy in terms of value and SA should not have to give up anything else other than ATL picks in 25 & 27 then + matching salaries not including Sochan or Castle.

If Trae is getting traded I want him. He's a better player than Fox.

[Pauleta14]

If SAC gets Trae instead of Fox they're a lot better.

Still can't see how ATL can finish lower than 10th, CHI will be tanking hard and at best PHI gets in the play-in

[Mr. Body]

If SAC gets Trae instead of Fox they're a lot better.

Still can't see how ATL can finish lower than 10th, CHI will be tanking hard and at best PHI gets in the play-in

Philly has their path forward to the play in. I now think they'll end up better.

The Spurs likely will, too.

I have doubts for anyone else. It would have to be Chicago and Brooklyn. The Nets have been somewhat competitive. Actually Portland has been kind of feisty. Just that they're too far back probably.

[stephen jackson]

hawks have lost 6 straight thats great to see

[mo7888]

time for 5D chess guys

Jalen Johnson being out means there is now a stronger chance the hawks miss the playoffs. any thoughts of a cinderella run can be put to bed. this is a lost season for them.

with that being the case, tanking does them no good, as they dont own their pick. they also are projected to be above the cap. without cap space, without their first round pick, will be tough to make improvements.

their main incoming asset is a top 12 protected pick coming from sacto (huerter). as of right now, sacto's projected pick is #13. if sacramento trades fox, it makes it increasingly likely that the hawks will not get that pick this year either. therefore, the worst case scenario for ATL this year is for their season to go down the drain, winding up in the lottery, with the kings also trading fox and getting a better lotto pick, thereby not conveying to ATL

therefore, ATL trading Trae to SA, getting their picks back... allows them to completely bottom out this year and get their shot at Flagg, while also preventing Sacto from unloading Fox, and increasing the odds of them receiving the kings pick as well

the spurs entertain this publicly (or leak it to reporters via "sources"), and then we put Sacto in a position where they may have to lower their asking price for Fox, since the spurs now have options beyond simply waiting until 2026

I have no interest in Trae at that price and they probably have no interest without it...

[mo7888]

There is a path, like we saw with HOU, to give ATL picks back so they can tank IF SA is compensated for allowing this. Meaning they get equal picks back + sweetener.

If this means Trae gets to SAC then that’s enough comp for Fox straight up. So SA gets Fox, Kings get their guy in terms of value and SA should not have to give up anything else other than ATL picks in 25 & 27 then + matching salaries not including Sochan or Castle.

That i could definitely live with

[Strategic]

Maybe Spurs could give Atl. pick plus a couple of Spurs best tank commanders for the injured Jalen Johnson. I’d do it but why would they?

[Splits]

Man, he was really on a tear

hope his labia heals this off season, would hate for him to end up a ham sandwich

[SpursGenius]

Trae sux dont want him. bad three point percentage midget no defense

[Mr. Body]

Sixers now one win from tying Chicago for the #10 spot in the East. Both teams are eight games under .500, which is astounding. I now change my mind entirely with Jalen Johnson going down. I think Philly is definitely at least a play-in team and may even get into the top 6 with teams like Miami not entirely great.

[DPG21920]

Another win by PHI. They need Embiid back asap please. TOR is 8-2 last 10 and playing much better. As long as MIA doesnt fall off a cliff, then theres a chance both PHI and TOR can make things interesting if ATL really derails here

[spursparker9]

Now that JJ is out, I would refuse the Fox trade if it includes this Atl 2025 pick.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Trae is also dealing with a nagging hamstring issue too. Have to wonder if the Hawks will start to be more cautious with him now. The Hawks certainly have no incentive to tank, but I can’t seem the pushing their star player unnecessarily just to spite the Spurs either.

[Mr. Body]

Trae is also dealing with a nagging hamstring issue too. Have to wonder if the Hawks will start to be more cautious with him now. The Hawks certainly have no incentive to tank, but I can’t seem the pushing their star player unnecessarily just to spite the Spurs either.

They get Sacramento's pick, which might not be far away from where they end up. And then get the Lakers'. They shouldn't freak out too much about their draft capital depending on where the lotto balls fall.

[rascal]

Sixers now one win from tying Chicago for the #10 spot in the East. Both teams are eight games under .500, which is astounding. I now change my mind entirely with Jalen Johnson going down. I think Philly is definitely at least a play-in team and may even get into the top 6 with teams like Miami not entirely great.

If the Sixers get healthy they will get into the playoffs.

[Mr. Body]

If the Sixers get healthy they will get into the playoffs.

They don't have to get healthy. They'll push past the Bulls pretty easily and probably the Hawks.

[jiggy_55]

We need the Bulls to somehow win a few games and for the Hawks to keep losing and Sixers to continue their good run of form..

[Strategic]

See if the Cavs can take care of business tonight.

[objective]

According to the Locked On Hawks episode covering Johnson missing the season, the Hawks are -8.5 net rating without him on the court and +2.4 with him on. Devastating loss. Nearly an 11 point swing is harsh.

[Seventyniner]

According to the Locked On Hawks episode covering Johnson missing the season, the Hawks are -8.5 net rating without him on the court and +2.4 with him on. Devastating loss. Nearly an 11 point swing is harsh.

Ouch. -8.5 net is about a 27% Pythagorean win rate. That translates to a 9-26 or 10-25 record in their last 35 games, which would be 31-51 or 32-50 overall. In most seasons that is around the 8th or 9th worst record.

Even without Johnson it's hard to imagine the Hawks falling below the current bottom 7 though. The Hawks getting the 8th worst record, which gives a 26.2% of jumping into the top 4, is about the best realistic scenario right now.

[Knoxxx]

We need the Bulls to somehow win a few games and for the Hawks to keep losing and Sixers to continue their good run of form..

The big picture is with the ATL free fall both PHI and CHI are firmly in play in contention. That gives them more incentive to win than SAS, who are unlikely to make the play in with a similar record.

Also let’s not forget the idea of trading up, for example package 11 pick from CHI and ours or the ATL pick in a two for one for a higher pick. Ideally leaving us with a top 4 pick and possibly two.

Barring a can’t say no trade, bringing in some top pick rookies while churning the bottom of the roster makes sense. Probably not a quick fix but adding two players of Castle’s caliber or better, even if rookies, would be legit.

I also think that there are plenty of later picks, possibly even the Spurs own SRP, that would be roster upgrades.

[Knoxxx]

See if the Cavs can take care of business tonight.

Cavs pulling away looks like we good!

[ace3g]

7 in a row for the Hawks.

[mo7888]

7 in a row for the Hawks.

With Indy, Detroit, SA, and Milwaukee coming up...

[Kurik]

With Indy, Detroit, SA, and Milwaukee coming up...

We know what will happen in the 2H against SA! :grim:

[DPG21920]

Yall are welcome

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[dn0774]

We know what will happen in the 2H against SA! :grim:

We really need to get video of Mitch Johnson's halftime speeches. Feels like we have epically bad 3rd quarters routinely.

[Knoxxx]

ATL only two games ahead of PHI/CHI for 8th worst record…

[heyheymymy]

Yall are welcome

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The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners.

[mo7888]

ATL only two games ahead of PHI/CHI for 8th worst record…

And at the end of the night only 3 games ahead of Portland.

[BackHome]

Portland just won ��

[RC_Drunkford]

Looking at Philly, Chicago and Portland to surpass ATL in the standings. Hopefully they keep losing a lot.

[Atl Spur]

Good thing the front office knows a thing or two about winning most trades.. BTW, some of you should get off your knees. You hate on Mr. Wright in one breath but beg for the favorable possible outcomes his deals might yield! You can’t have it both way’s.

[jiggy_55]

The big picture is with the ATL free fall both PHI and CHI are firmly in play in contention. That gives them more incentive to win than SAS, who are unlikely to make the play in with a similar record.

Also let’s not forget the idea of trading up, for example package 11 pick from CHI and ours or the ATL pick in a two for one for a higher pick. Ideally leaving us with a top 4 pick and possibly two.

Barring a can’t say no trade, bringing in some top pick rookies while churning the bottom of the roster makes sense. Probably not a quick fix but adding two players of Castle’s caliber or better, even if rookies, would be legit.

I also think that there are plenty of later picks, possibly even the Spurs own SRP, that would be roster upgrades.

We need to get the CHI pick first before we can think of packaging it :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Good thing the front office knows a thing or two about winning most trades.. BTW, some of you should get off your knees. You hate on Mr. Wright in one breath but beg for the favorable possible outcomes his deals might yield! You can’t have it both way’s.

I'm sure you know more about getting on your knees than anybody else here :lol

[Mr. Body]

I'm sure you know more about getting on your knees than anybody else here :lol

You gotta make sure your idiot buddies on the site see you circle jerking! Gotta get your ST idiot points!

[Knoxxx]

We need to get the CHI pick first before we can think of packaging it :lol

I believe CHI pick goes to only top 8 protected after this season, so it’s a legit trade asset either way.

Edit: top 8 protected next TWO seasons.

[Davidicus]

I believe CHI pick goes to only top 8 protected after this season, so it’s a legit trade asset either way.

Edit: top 8 protected next TWO seasons.

Damn, didn’t realize the 1-8 is also for 2027, thought we only had that for one year before SRPs.

Makes me almost wish they push to next year since 25 draft is a desert beyond 10.

[onechance87]

close game for pacers/hawks rn

[mo7888]

close game for pacers/hawks rn

Atl desperately needs this game or their potentially looking at an 11 game losing streak before they get Washington.

[ace3g]

38.3 - 4th





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[Mugen]

8 L in a row tbh

[scott]

Clutch L for the Hawks

[Mugen]

Hawks next win gonna come against the Spurs tbh :lol

[Strategic]

Nice

[BatManu20]

Pacers defense was abysmal tonight. They were lucky to win this one after blowing a 20-point lead. Still a loss nonetheless. We'll take it.

[Mal]

Their schedule is brutal next couple games, outside Wizards game

[mystargtr34]

Fuck the Whoreks

[DPG21920]

Yall are welcome

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I did it yall. 8 games. Let’s see if we get my wish of 10

[100%duncan]

Fuck you Atlanta :lol



Now if they didnt win those games against CLE and Boston. Smdh

[Mr. Body]

Fuck you Atlanta :lol



Now if they didnt win those games against CLE and Boston. Smdh

They lost two to the Wizards though, on track to be the worst team in history.

[onechance87]

I did it yall. 8 games. Let’s see if we get my wish of 10

keep up the good work.

[BackHome]

Ride the hot hand

[TXstbobcat]

I did it yall. 8 games. Let’s see if we get my wish of 10

your doing the lords work

[DPG21920]

I still can’t believe ATL beat CLE back to back and BOS 2x. Unbelievable

[BackHome]

You know every game I look at score and I always notice Tre from the Hawks is playing 36 minutes minimum. Say what you want but man the guy is an iron man when it comes down to conditioning.

[MannyIsGod]

Remember when all of you were freaking out because you thought Atlanta was going to end up like 5th in the East?

[DPG21920]

To be fair they were beating cle and Boston and Jalen + Dyson+ Hunter were all breaking out lol

[BatManu20]

If only the Bulls, Sixers, Blazers, etc. weren't all so dog-shit. They just keep losing.

[scott]

Remember when all of you were freaking out because you thought Atlanta was going to end up like 5th in the East?

It was all a reverse jinx premature victory lap. You're welcome, Manny

[Mr. Body]

Remember when all of you were freaking out because you thought Atlanta was going to end up like 5th in the East?

SpursTalk never freaks out about anything.

[Frenchfred]

I feel that the worst they could get is 7 from the bottom (assuming Portland continues to win), which we would give us a 31% chance for top4 and 7.5% for the number one pick.

[BackHome]

Portland just won again I believe there fourth in a row and the Nets just won to.

[TrainOfThought5]

If only the Bulls, Sixers, Blazers, etc. weren't all so dog-shit. They just keep losing.

Spurs fan in Portland here. Blazers have been playing shockingly well lately. Sixers have got to turn it around at some point right?

[Davidicus]

I did it yall. 8 games. Let’s see if we get my wish of 10

The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners.

[John B]

Is that FRP going to SAC though?

[Atl Spur]

I'm sure you know more about getting on your knees than anybody else here :lol

That’s the part of the statement you would focus on….lame ass dude!

[DPG21920]

I want this pick to turn into Flagg so bad (yes I know the odds).

[Atl Spur]

2025 atl pick mustn’t be traded for any reason….the lottery may do us proper!

[Knoxxx]

I feel that the worst they could get is 7 from the bottom (assuming Portland continues to win), which we would give us a 31% chance for top4 and 7.5% for the number one pick.

If we and ATL are 7th and 8th worst, we have 58% combined odds for top 4 and 13.5% for #1. Stop thinking small!

[Kevin]

If we and ATL are 7th and 8th worst, we have 58% combined odds for top 4 and 13.5% for #1. Stop thinking small!

This is why I am fine with waiting until summer for a Fox trade. Tabling talks post lottery makes a lot of sense for the Spurs.

[stnick2261]

Just make the picks top 4 protected. It’s still good to get Fox on the team early

[spursparker9]

Thanks God that this Atl pick is safe.

Brian Get It Right!

[spursistan]

Brian Wright keeping this suddenly tasty pick and all of Atlanta's is a GMing masterclass, tbh.

[slick'81]

I mean ,we back bitches

[ffadicted]

With the Fox trade Brian's made it clear to everyone how much he values these Atlanta assets, and he's not wrong. Still got 3 years of stealing their picks in the bank, actually golden assets. Unfortunately Chicago is now going to fully implode, so everybody gotta be big Blazers and 76ers fans now. :clap

[Strategic]

Time for the Pistons to add to Hawks losing streak. Trae nursing a hammy and still GTD. Let’s make this 9 losses in a row.

[scott]

Pistons need to secure that playoff spot. Let's Go Pistons!

[John B]

Let’s go Pistons!

[Mr. Body]

We need Portland and Philadelphia to try to keep winning. And of course us. The other worse teams are too fast back and probably full tanking. The outlier in Atlanta's area is Chicago but they're probably committing to the tank finally.

If POR and PHI can win enough then ATL nestles in the #8 slot.

[spurraider21]

detroit big comeback late... but then down 1 dyson daniels stole it from cade

[spurraider21]

trae with a ridiculous go ahead shot with less than 2 seconds to go

[Strategic]

Damn Trae

[onechance87]

fck u atl

[AusSpur]

The amount of close game wins by ATL seems really high.

[onechance87]

The amount of close game wins by ATL seems really high.

trae young lives for that shit.

[LeBowen]

trae young lives for that shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pulZF7unO0c

Slippery!

[spurraider21]

The amount of close game wins by ATL seems really high.
ice trae tbh

and dyson daniels has had some monster moments defensively in clutch situations this year

[BatManu20]

Damn. Was hoping Detroit could pull off the upset but they were behind all night and didn't tie it until the last minute of the game.

Ice Trae lives for last-second shots though. Dude's got ice in his veins tbh.

[objective]

Not looking forward to Mitch vs. Quin

[Strategic]

That’s alright. They about to start another losing streak

[BackHome]

People need to pray that at least one of our picks gets us into top 3 if we want to have any chance of getting a ring

[spursparker9]

Fuck you Hawks.

But tbh I think Ice Trae would be a much better fit with Wemby given his generational talent in passing and clutch vein

[RC_Drunkford]

Fuck you Hawks.

But tbh I think Ice Trae would be a much better fit with Wemby given his generational talent in passing and clutch vein

Fox is clutch too and better defensively. Considering what you'd have to give up for Trae, Fox was the better choice.

[cutewizard]

Flagg on the Spurs will be epic lol

Let's dream...... anything is possible

[mo7888]

Damn. Was hoping Detroit could pull off the upset but they were behind all night and didn't tie it until the last minute of the game.

Ice Trae lives for last-second shots though. Dude's got ice in his veins tbh.

Atlanta winning was the upset..

[couchman]

Funny how rooting against Atlanta has made it clear to Spurs fans how insanely good Trae is.
The man is single handedly worth an extra 6+ wins a year with his clutch play alone.
That doesn’t even account for the fact that he’s one of the top 5 offensive engines on the league.
His offense keeps them in most games and then he goes Ice Trae.
I still think Trae + Wby would have been tremendous but perhaps ATL was asking too much.
Fox is pretty darn good tho and presumably cheaper.

[Dejounte]

People need to pray that at least one of our picks gets us into top 3 if we want to have any chance of getting a ring

or what? You’ll pray we have a losing season next year too?

[Ice009]

Funny how rooting against Atlanta has made it clear to Spurs fans how insanely good Trae is.
The man is single handedly worth an extra 6+ wins a year with his clutch play alone.
That doesn’t even account for the fact that he’s one of the top 5 offensive engines on the league.
His offense keeps them in most games and then he goes Ice Trae.
I still think Trae + Wby would have been tremendous but perhaps ATL was asking too much.
Fox is pretty darn good tho and presumably cheaper.

It's a very interesting question. From what I understand, De-Aaron's defense is likely much better than Trae's, but man, Trae seems to really know how to get his team going on offense and he's a great passer.

[R. DeMurre]

De'Andre Hunter had one of the strangest box scores I've ever seen last night: 20 points (on 7-14 FG, 4-8 3pt, 2-2 FT), 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks.
The Hawks won by 2 and Hunter played 31 minutes and finished with a +/- of -4.

[montgod]

De'Andre Hunter had one of the strangest box scores I've ever seen last night: 20 points (on 7-14 FG, 4-8 3pt, 2-2 FT), 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks.
The Hawks won by 2 and Hunter played 31 minutes and finished with a +/- of -4.

Yeah, he's a poorman's Cam Johnson.... if that can even be said lol.

[spurraider21]

Fox is clutch too and better defensively. Considering what you'd have to give up for Trae, Fox was the better choice.
there definitely would have been some give and take here

- Trae would have cost us a lot more in draft capital. probably would have cost both 2025 picks, hawks 2027, and then the wolves pick, or something like that
- While Trae does have a solid in-between game, Fox is a way bigger threat driving to the basket
- Fox isnt an all-defense guy, but he does contribute on that end. he's very slim, but he has reasonable length for the position and godo quickness. he did have a really bad blunder this year giving up a 4 point play, so its about keeping his head on straight

on the other hand

- Trae is simply put a much better passer with much better court vision. Fox isn't abysmal, but he's not some maestro. he's comparable to TP. but with this not being a heliocentric offense built around the point guard making everything happen, hopefully this doesnt come back to bite us. i dont think it will be hard for find to Fox wemby, but Trae would probably have helped our shooters and cutters a lot more. He's also an elite lob passer. Fox hasnt been a prolific lob passer but he also hasnt played with a legit lob target
- Trae is a much better shooter and floor spacer, something which has plagued the spurs for a decade now


both guys are good crunchtime bucket getters, and we definitely needed that either way

[Mugen]

Wemby isn't an elite lob target tbh. At least not yet. He's not very good at making those reads.

[DAF86]

Funny how rooting against Atlanta has made it clear to Spurs fans how insanely good Trae is.
The man is single handedly worth an extra 6+ wins a year with his clutch play alone.
That doesn’t even account for the fact that he’s one of the top 5 offensive engines on the league.
His offense keeps them in most games and then he goes Ice Trae.
I still think Trae + Wby would have been tremendous but perhaps ATL was asking too much.
Fox is pretty darn good tho and presumably cheaper.

lol nah

[Pauleta14]

Funny how rooting against Atlanta has made it clear to Spurs fans how insanely good Trae is.
The man is single handedly worth an extra 6+ wins a year with his clutch play alone.
That doesn’t even account for the fact that he’s one of the top 5 offensive engines on the league.
His offense keeps them in most games and then he goes Ice Trae.
I still think Trae + Wby would have been tremendous but perhaps ATL was asking too much.
Fox is pretty darn good tho and presumably cheaper.

I'm happy with Fox but I agree, Trae's shooting and passing abilities are much better and would've been so useful with Wemby. As much as Fox will bring by breaking defenses, the lack of passing abilities of this roster is a massive handicap.

I still don't get why he is so much hated by everyone in the league tbh

[BacktoBasics]

I'm happy with Fox but I agree, Trae's shooting and passing abilities are much better and would've been so useful with Wemby. As much as Fox will bring by breaking defenses, the lack of passing abilities of this roster is a massive handicap.

I still don't get why he is so much hated by everyone in the league tbh

If you look at what it would have taken to get Trae. Fox plus ours and AtLs pick this year is probably of more value than Trae.

We definitely would have to return theirs this year with ours to land him.

[LeBowen]

I'm happy with Fox but I agree, Trae's shooting and passing abilities are much better and would've been so useful with Wemby. As much as Fox will bring by breaking defenses, the lack of passing abilities of this roster is a massive handicap.

I still don't get why he is so much hated by everyone in the league tbh

Trae's playmaking is S tier, but his value drops off significantly when he doesn't have the ball. And Spurs obviously don't want one player to have the ball at all times.
Fox is obviously not on Trae's level passing wise, but he's more than good enough. Don't forget that he played with Sabonis who was the central hub of their offense.
He averaged 7 assists in his last season without Sabonis.

Fox/Castle/Wemby trio has the potential to average 15 to 18 assists, imo. More than enough.

Trae is hated because he plays the villain role and is an inefficent shooter.
I wouldn't want Trae because he's the worst defender in the league out of any all-star while Fox can be a positive on that end.
Don't forget that he played with Sabonis, it's near-impossible to look good on defense without a good rim protector.

Fox can handle the quickest guards, Castle can match up with bigger, methodical threats.

[rascal]

I'm happy with Fox but I agree, Trae's shooting and passing abilities are much better and would've been so useful with Wemby. As much as Fox will bring by breaking defenses, the lack of passing abilities of this roster is a massive handicap.

I still don't get why he is so much hated by everyone in the league tbh

Fox is fine for what the Spurs traded to get him. Trae would have cost all the Atlanta picks back to them.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Wemby isn't an elite lob target tbh. At least not yet. He's not very good at making those reads.

It's not exactly Wemby's fault right now. The bigger issue is that Chris Paul simply can't beat a man anymore, can't get to the rim at all, which allows the Wemby defender to stick to him, thus few lob opportunities. There will be way more with a penetrating guard like Fox I'd imagine.

[Pauleta14]

If you look at what it would have taken to get Trae. Fox plus ours and AtLs pick this year is probably of more value than Trae.

We definitely would have to return theirs this year with ours to land him.

I agree

I was talking strictly on basketball skills.

We have so many needs anyway that so many players would be helpful, but Trae's passing abilities are so underrated vs his shooting

[Pauleta14]

Trae's playmaking is S tier, but his value drops off significantly when he doesn't have the ball. And Spurs obviously don't want one player to have the ball at all times.
Fox is obviously not on Trae's level passing wise, but he's more than good enough. Don't forget that he played with Sabonis who was the central hub of their offense.
He averaged 7 assists in his last season without Sabonis.

Fox/Castle/Wemby trio has the potential to average 15 to 18 assists, imo. More than enough.

Trae is hated because he plays the villain role and is an inefficent shooter.
I wouldn't want Trae because he's the worst defender in the league out of any all-star while Fox can be a positive on that end.
Don't forget that he played with Sabonis, it's near-impossible to look good on defense without a good rim protector.

Fox can handle the quickest guards, Castle can match up with bigger, methodical threats.

Yeah defense is a big issue but I assumed Wemby and Castle could compensate it.

Tbh I haven't paid enough attention to Fox's play making abilities, my attention was so much on his drives and dunks. (watching highlights bc I've rarely watched entire SAC games unless we play them)

Any I'm not complaining ... :lol

[Arguendo]

there definitely would have been some give and take here
Give and take for sure, Trae's court vision and passing are worlds better, much better A/TO every year, better shooter, more efficient on O overall, but I'd take Fox every time for same cost and we got Fox for about as little as possible for a borderline Top 20-25 guy (The Ringer has Fox at 19, Trae at 29, I put both in the 30-20 range).

Trae is almost a full yr younger and will prolly age better (vision/passing vs speed/athleticism), but for the next few years the difference for me is D ceiling. Trae hurts his team on D, often badly. Fox is maybe a slight positive, but he led the league in Steals/game last season. Next to Wemby and Castle (and hopefully a Sochan hitting 33-34% of 3s), we could be a D juggernaut next yr with Fox free to play the passing lanes and that's a big difference for me.

[scott]

Everyone is going to love Fox after a few games on the court and once they get to know his personality. Extremely likeable guy and he's going to remind everyone of Tony Parker. I think we're also going to see a nice bump in Fox's shooting efficiency.

[baseline bum]

I'm a Trae fan but even if he cost the same I'd rather have Fox, mostly because of the gulf in defensive ability. Pretty thrilled to have De'Aaron here.

[Arguendo]

Everyone is going to love Fox after a few games on the court and once they get to know his personality. Extremely likeable guy and he's going to remind everyone of Tony Parker. I think we're also going to see a nice bump in Fox's shooting efficiency.
Yeah, I think Tony is a great comp for Fox and its extra special that this is where is wants to be.

Same again, I expect Fox to get much closer to the 36.9% he shot last season vs 32.2% this yr with the Kings and the combine Fox-Wemby gravity hopefully drags almost everyone's 3% up. I'm very hopeful Vassell ends the season above league average, Sochan gets to 33%.

Worth noting, outside those 5 October games where Wemby looked exhausted, he's shooting 37.0% from deep this season- his development is just insane.

[ffadicted]

I'm a Trae fan but even if he cost the same I'd rather have Fox, mostly because of the gulf in defensive ability. Pretty thrilled to have De'Aaron here.

Same, and he cost about 90% less prob. Couldn't see us getting Trae back without giving up all 3 atlanta picks back (which are WAY more valuable than the ones we sent), and at least one of vassell keldon or sochan I reckon. But who knows.
Either way I'm stoked for who we got and what we gave up for it, no one in their right mind can claim a realistic Trae deal would've been better.

[BackHome]

or what? You’ll pray we have a losing season next year too?

Yes, I want Atalanta to loose every game for the next 3 years so we can get upgrades at certain positions

[spurraider21]

Fox is a man of the people :lol

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[NASpurs]

Fox is a man of the people :lol

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haha that's great. I wonder how many players are actually aware of stuff like this.

[scott]

I love how in Fox's interview he mentioned Castle and now he mentioned the ATL picks. I imagine him playing Assistant GM while the SAC negotiations were going on. "Yo I'm only extending with San Antonio. And only if they have Castle. And only if they have ATLs picks. I'll retire if you bitches fuck this up. Go get Lavine and like it"

[Arguendo]

That really comes off like Fox has been paying attention to us all season, at the least. Love it, can wait for tonight's tip.

[objective]

"I came here to play with Castle!"

... Starts next to a 40 year old while Castle rots on the bench ...

He'll be missing Mike Brown real soon

[Strategic]

Suckers

[Strategic]

Psyche

[objective]

How did the Hawks lose 9 of 10? They look good even without Jalen Johnson

[BackHome]

Injuries

[spursistan]

Already loving Fox's situational awareness :lol


https://x.com/SpursNation_SA/status/1887231120145850833

[Mr. Body]

How did the Hawks lose 9 of 10? They look good even without Jalen Johnson

They got hot from outside.

[scott]

Hawks lost tonight, in case anyone didn't know.

Let's go!

[spursistan]

We went 2-0 against Atlanta on an OT win and 1-point game W. This could prove huge for their pick placement at the end of the season..

[100%duncan]

Fuck off Atl :lol

[exstatic]

They got hot from outside.

Yeah, Okungwu looked like Curry out there, and that drew Wemby out, opening up the lane, too.

[Rosewood]

Dyson Daniels is the real deal and Trae Young is a killer in the clutch. Glad we got our W’s on them this year. If they continue spiraling this may be a historic draft for Spurs.

[DPG21920]

Unfortunately all the teams around ATL, especially PHI, also lost.

[Mr. Body]

Unfortunately all the teams around ATL, especially PHI, also lost.

I don't think Phila can get it together.

[DPG21920]

I don't think Phila can get it together.

Embiid is back so hopefully they can make up the few games on ATL

[DAF86]

Yeah, Okungwu looked like Curry out there, and that drew Wemby out, opening up the lane, too.

At that point you put Wemby on Daniels and let somebody else take Okunghfkshsgs, or whatever his name is.

[CGD]

haha that's great. I wonder how many players are actually aware of stuff like this.

Comes with being a Kang for so long

[exstatic]

At that point you put Wemby on Daniels and let somebody else take Okunghfkshsgs, or whatever his name is.

Making him chase Daniel’s all around won’t be any better.

[spursistan]

Unfortunately all the teams around ATL, especially PHI, also lost.
What a massive disappointment Philly has been. Don't buy it is all injuries. Clippers lost Kawhi for longer than Embiid's time and they are a mid-seed in tougher conference. As much as i dislike the guy, Harden is still a far superior floor raiser than both Maxey and Paul George (Norman Powell and Zubac career years' attest to that).

[DAF86]

Making him chase Daniel’s all around won’t be any better.

You don't chase Daniels around, you just let him run around freely on the 3pt line.

[BackHome]

The issue with Philly is there draft pick is top 6 protected

[spurraider21]

not that he's particularly great, but it had been reported that the Hawks were in on him as well

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[Mr. Body]

I don't get going for Ingram. He's always freaking hurt, his games isn't built for the modern game, he sucked in the playoffs, and he wants the max. Why bother with all that crap. I can sort of see it for Hawks but not for Toronto.

[DAF86]

not that he's particularly great, but it had been reported that the Hawks were in on him as well

1887354068898898181

What a depressing tweet. And to think this was us not too long ago, tbh. :lol

On a related note, this could mean the Raptors might try to end ahead of the Hawks, tbh.

[Bruno]

What truly matter for the picks is Hawks missing the playoffs. If they miss the playoffs, the pick will go from 15th/16th to around 10th with some top4 hope.

If Trae doesn't get injured, Hawks shouldn't slide out of the play-in tournament. A tough play- in tournament for them would be to finish 9th/10th and start with a game against a healthy Sixers.

[cutewizard]

This could be our fourth starter ................

Hope we achieve our dream line-up with this pick.

[exstatic]

What truly matter for the picks is Hawks missing the playoffs. If they miss the playoffs, the pick will go from 15th/16th to around 10th with some top4 hope.

If Trae doesn't get injured, Hawks shouldn't slide out of the play-in tournament. A tough play- in tournament for them would be to finish 9th/10th and start with a game against a healthy Sixers.

They can still rise higher in the draft and remain a play in team in the shitty east. Portland is 9-1 in their last 10. They could easily pass ATL, improving our ATL pick while ATL remains in the play in. Toronto could also pass them. They are 6-4 in their last 10, and just acquired BI.

The Hawks aren’t making the playoffs. They just lost a game in which almost everything broke right for them, and are 1-9 in their last 10.

[couchman]

My guess is the Hawks go something like 11-20 to close out.
That would give them 33 wins.
And yet that may be enough to be in the play-in.
Only Philly below them in the East seems motivated to win, and they really should tank to keep their top 6 protected pic.

I think the Hawks end up with somewhere between the 8th and 11th worst record.
Last year anything from 33 to 35 wins would have been the 9th worst.
Even if they go 16-15 and reach 39 wins that would have been the 11th worst record last year.
To fall below the 8th pick would have meant only winning 30 games or less last year.

[RC_Drunkford]

I hope they trade Hunter. The Cavs really want him

[Arguendo]

I hope they trade Hunter. The Cavs really want him
Hopefully someone comes in with a godfather offer for Hunter. Hawks have no reason to tank, but no reason to avoid it (this yr) either.

Hunter is a yr older than Trae, moving him now = selling at peak value, frees up a lot of minutes for Risacher enough to get him back to ROY contention, something to keep the fans rooting for. Hawks get some picks, and an exception while clearing up to $23.3M from cap.
Hunters mpg and value likely drop significantly with the return of Jalen/growth of Zac, go into off-season with Trae, Jalen, Daniels, Risacher, Okongwu, 2 '25 pick in the 13-25 range, be able to pull-off a big trade and/or sign a Max + others. Lots of flexibility with a play-in starting 5 in the Leastern.

[Splits]

Shams saying Hawks are going after Durant :nope

[BatManu20]

KD to the Hawks would be a great fit for them tbh. Really hope it doesn't happen obv but it makes a ton of sense. Just depends on how much future draft capital they're willing to give up.

[siraulo23]

Hunter traded for Lavert

[Splits]

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With Hunter gone can't see a way Durant could come in

[Arguendo]

Shams saying Hawks are going after Durant :nope

Wow, that could make a lot of sense for both teams.
Hunter + matching salaries + ?? assets for Durant. Phx potentially gets good value, maybe gets under the 2nd apron.
Hawks run
Trae/Daniels/Zac/KD/Okongwu this year + Jalen next yr when Durant is a massive expiring. Hawks probably get to the 6th seed with Durant this yr, only 3 games back. Really really hope KD says no, cause not sure who else who. Ugh.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Durant didn't want to go to Golden State, how do people expect him to go to Atlanta lol

[Arguendo]

Hunter traded for Lavert
Yes!!!
Come on Bulls/76ers/Raptors/Blazers- lets get Hawks to bottom 6! Please!!!

[BatManu20]

Nice pickup by the Cavs. Caris LeVert was playing like ass this season. Hunter is a major upgrade.

This makes the Hawks worse though. Makes me think they're not done yet, otherwise this doesn't make sense for them. Unless those Pick Swaps are well into the future.

[Devi8or]

Fiiiiiinnneeee we'll take Cooper Flagg

[TVI]

Why would the Hawks blow it up this year if their pick is unprotected?

[itzsoweezee]

Why would the Hawks blow it up this year if their pick is unprotected?

Because they’re cheap.

[Arguendo]

Nice pickup by the Cavs. Caris LeVert was playing like ass this season. Hunter is a major upgrade.
This makes the Hawks worse though. Makes me think they're not done yet, otherwise this doesn't make sense for them. Unless those Pick Swaps are well into the future.
I don't think their done, but I think they may try to clear some salary, still $30M over cap, way over next year.

You think they trade for talent or try to move off salary?
Niang should have real value to a contender as a 20mpg, 40% 4.4 3Pa PF on a $8.5M, $8.2M contract. I'd love to find a way to get him and move Keldon.

[Splits]

Why would the Hawks blow it up this year if their pick is unprotected?

they've probably give up hope on this season and are looking more to protect their 26 swap and future-build. they still have firsts from LAL and SAC (top 12 protected) this year

[Arguendo]

Why would the Hawks blow it up this year if their pick is unprotected?
Save money, get young guys more minutes, get into the top 12 so they get Sac's first round pick, get Zac enough minutes to win ROY and give fans something to root for.
Go into next season with a play-in, maybe play-off starting 5 in East of Trae/Daniels/Jalen/Zac/Okongwu plus Sac's #13-16 pick.

[BatManu20]

Wow, that could make a lot of sense for both teams.
Hunter + matching salaries + ?? assets for Durant. Phx potentially gets good value, maybe gets under the 2nd apron.
Hawks run
Trae/Daniels/Zac/KD/Okongwu this year + Jalen next yr when Durant is a massive expiring. Hawks probably get to the 6th seed with Durant this yr, only 3 games back. Really really hope KD says no, cause not sure who else who. Ugh.

Don't think ATL has any interest in making a deal with the Spurs right now tbh :lol. Unless it's for one of their FRP's back, which ain't happening.

[szkorhetz]

Juicy

[BatManu20]

Spurs had interest in Trae confirmed.

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[Arguendo]

Don't think ATL has any interest in making a deal with the Spurs right now tbh :lol. Unless it's for one of their FRP's back, which ain't happening.
ATL fans? Yeah, they probably don't want to trade a young player or picks to Spurs.
Landry Fields, the GM who took over for the guy that made the trade? Sanford guy, I'm sure he's familiar with the concept of a sunk cost, if he see's a deal that makes it less likely the Spurs take his '26 pick I seriously doubt he passes it up just because the Spurs are involved.

Do you think the Hawks are gonna make another move to add talent for this season?

[siraulo23]

another trade for the hawks hmm

[BatManu20]

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[scott]

Bogi to LAC, Terence Mann, Bones Hyland and more SRPs to ATL.

[scott]

Spurs had interest in Trae confirmed.

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Confirmed by Trae, but not by SA... Brian was probably offering Collins, Tre, Sidy and a 2028 Spurs FRP :lol

[NASpurs]

Does the Bogdan/Clippers trade make the Hawks better or worse? :lol

[Splits]

lmao Hawks tuah

[LeBowen]

Alright, lock up those ATL picks and throw the keys away, these fools are going to completely ruin their roster.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

Do you think the Hawks are gonna make another move to add talent for this season?

LOL they just trade Bogdonovic for Terrance Mann and Bones Hyland.

[TimDunkem]

Thank you, Hawks. :tu

[024]

:lol Hawks tanking for the Spurs?

[NASpurs]

We're about to draft Flagg with the Hawks pick.

[scott]

:lol Hawks tanking for the Spurs?

Brian Wright and Landry Fields must have had a bet on the game last night... loser has to tank

[Kevin]

Cant believe the Hawks are blowing it up. The lottery gods love the Spurs so that pick probably ends up top 4.

[Russ]

Does the Bogdan/Clippers trade make the Hawks better or worse? :lol

NBATV just said the Hawks are having a fire sale.

[szkorhetz]

Amazing!

[scott]

NBATV just said the Hawks are having a fire sale.

Let's pick Nance up off that scrap heap.

Only 20 minutes to go.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Let's pick Nance up off that scrap heap.

Only 20 minutes to go.

Its possible! The Hawks need to waive two players after these trades. Go Hawks!

[Seventyniner]

lmao Hawks tuah

Order one of these, but make sure to get the version that says HAWKS on the front.

https://i.ibb.co/f6Jg0DB/hawks.jpg

[BatManu20]

Hawks not done

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[scott]

Hawks just dumped Cody Zeller to HOU, sending HOU's own 2028 SRP back to them.

Atlanta is actively paying other teams to take their trash.

[Spursfanfromafar]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887586890930688102

[DesignatedT]

What are the Hawks trying to accomplish lol. They realize they don't have their first rounders right?

[ffadicted]

Cant believe the Hawks are blowing it up. The lottery gods love the Spurs so that pick probably ends up top 4.

All we need for a 25% shot is portland passing them (lookin likely), 76ers passing 'em (maybe with Joel and atlanta blowing it up it happens) and them losing in the play-in (also think it's very unlikely they beat the 76ers if Embiid is back AND beat whoever comes out of Pistons vs Magic). Even if the lottery gods don't swing our way that'd still be a top 8 pick deah lawdy

:hungry:

[Mr. Body]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887586890930688102

Not clicking a Nazi link.

[Spursfanfromafar]

What are the Hawks trying to accomplish lol. They realize they don't have their first rounders right?

They are under the luxury tax now. They do have other FRPs even if they have traded theirs to the Spurs.

[r0drig0lac]

Jalen Johnson would be good here

[Arguendo]

Does the Bogdan/Clippers trade make the Hawks better or worse? :lol
IMO doesn't move the needle much. Mann is better than Bogdan and younger, but makes same money for 2 yrs longer. Fills the SF role better than Bog so Zac can play more 4 which is prolly better.
Bones is a 6'1"+, part-time, low minute reserve combo guy, decent creator and 3pt specialist with avg to above avg %. And he's an expiring, prolly not in their rotation.

But the Hawks gave up 3 2nds, they didn't get them.
Hawks added added $9M to next years salary with lots of roster spaces to fill

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Props to everyone here who advocated not trading those ATL picks from the very beginning. It was only a matter of time before ATL imploded.