Enemy of the people: Elon Musk

[ChumpDumper]

He's the treasury secretary, dipshit

So he can order Elon to not do things?

[DarrinS]

So he can order Elon to not do things?

I can tell you didn't watch the video

[Yonivore]

It's really got to gall some people to discover Elon, Big Balls, and the rest of he cadre stand to earn billions in whistleblower awards for ferreting all the corruption, fraud, and waste.

[ChumpDumper]

I can tell you didn't watch the video
So can he?

[ChumpDumper]

It's really got to gall some people to discover Elon, Big Balls, and the rest of he cadre stand to earn billions in whistleblower awards for ferreting all the corruption, fraud, and waste.:lmao How are they whistleblowers?

[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

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[ChumpDumper]

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That can happen when you don't pass budgets.

[SnakeBoy]

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[DarrinS]

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:lmao

[DarrinS]

So can he?

Treasury sec and Elon are aligned.

[DarrinS]

The difference in energy level between this admin and last is orders of magnitude.

[Blake]

He's the treasury secretary, dipshit

No shit. Definitely not a DEI appointment.

[Blake]

I can tell you didn't watch the video

Nobody watches your youtubes

[Blake]

1887990227719045174

"WASHINGTON,Feb 7 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's nominee as Air Force Secretary, currently a top official at the national spy satellite agency, arranged a multibillion-dollar contract solicitation in a way that favored Elon Musk's SpaceX, according to seven people familiar with the contract."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-air-force-nominee-arranged-satellite-contract-manner-that-favored-musks-2025-02-07/

Hey how much is SpaceX' contract again?

[DarrinS]

No shit. Definitely not a DEI appointment.

He's gay, so he checks one of your stupid boxes. :lmao

[Blake]

Treasury sec and Elon are aligned.

You guys never answer.

[DarrinS]

No shit. Definitely not a DEI appointment.

He's gay, so he checks one of your stupid boxes. :lmao

[DarrinS]

Nobody watches your youtubes

If you don't want to hear from the heads of these departments that you pretend to be outraged about, I suppose that is your prerogative

[Winehole23]

The difference in energy level between this admin and last is orders of magnitude.unfortunately for y'all, similar is true for the levels of corruption and incompetence

[DarrinS]

unfortunately for y'all, similar is true for the levels of corruption and incompetence

Don't learn

[Winehole23]

Don't learnnot sure what you're referring to

[Winehole23]

are you rationing keystrokes?

[Blake]

He's gay, so he checks one of your stupid boxes. :lmao

I didn't know that. How are you okay with that?

[Blake]

If you don't want to hear from the heads of these departments that you pretend to be outraged about, I suppose that is your prerogative

He's an appointed trumptard so no, there's no consensus that his testimony means he's an expert on this topic. And your youtubes are usually retarded so I'll pass again like everyone else here.

[ChumpDumper]

Treasury sec and Elon are aligned.That's not an answer.

Can the Secretary of Treasury order Elon to stop at any time?

[ChumpDumper]

Don't learn

Learn your levels of corruption and incompetence?

[Winehole23]

Musk has done two things -- he's grabbed the most influential digital megaphone in the world and plugged himself into the personal information of every American. This is a digital coup, embedding itself into the core I.T. infrastructure of federal agencies with little oversight and only selective “transparency.” While they claim the access is "read only," they're locking out career civil servants and scraping personal data from millions of federal employees; the "GSAi" initiative (Musk’s new AI-driven analysis tool for government contracts) is bypassing security vetting and granting Musk’s inner circle deep visibility into federal procurement.


This isn’t just unauthorized access -- it’s a full-scale redirection of the government’s digital nervous system into the hands of an unelected billionaire.


The existential risks here -- financial manipulation, mass data exploitation, and unchecked digital autocracy -- are no longer hypothetical. We're watching a truly unprecedented transfer of governmental power to a private entity in real time.”



could see a government infrastructure irreversibly dependent on these privately-run/designed systems, lack of public accountability… effectively a corporate-run shadow government. Wealth and power could become “locked in” to those engineering this new hierarchy.”https://davidpepper.substack.com/p/a-digital-coup-a-tech-expert-fills

[Winehole23]

Giving El0n control of US payments, HR and buildings is dangerous


The Treasury doesn’t just backstop the banking system. It also provides a foundation for financial markets by issuing US Treasuries. As the world’s safest and most liquid financial asset (https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2584), Treasuries serve as collateral for financial transactions and a source of stable investment for people and financial institutions alike.
Musk has suggested that he has control over the payments system to deny payments (https://news.bloomberglaw.com/banking-law/musks-moves-on-treasury-risk-a-debate-over-us-payments-default) in an attempt to cut what he deems to be wasteful spending. Let’s be clear: The Silicon Valley ethos of “move fast and break things” is a reckless and dangerous approach to the world’s safest financial asset.

The government’s failing to make payments doesn’t amount to cutting spending; it’s a default on our obligations. It would have ripple effects for our nation’s credit rating, borrowing costs, and the Treasury markets. Ultimately, it would destabilize the global financial system.

The takeover of the public payment system by private business interests also raises conflicts of interest that will reduce competition for financial services and undermine confidence in our public payment system.

https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/musks-treasury-incursion-puts-entire-financial-system-at-risk

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Giving El0n control of US payments, HR and buildings is dangerous


Giving anyone that power would be dangerous. But he doesn't have control over those things, so slow your freakout.

[ChumpDumper]

Giving anyone that power would be dangerous. But he doesn't have control over those things, so slow your freakout.

Why does he have your tax and SS information, Darrin. Why does he need it?

[DarrinS]

Why does he have your tax and SS information, Darrin. Why does he need it?

Does he? Who told you that?

[ChumpDumper]

Does he? Who told you that?

Does he not have access to Treasury payment information?

Please answer.

[DarrinS]

Does he? Who told you that?


Does he not have access to Treasury payment information?

Please answer.

You skipped my question.

[ChumpDumper]

You skipped my question.

You refuse to answer mine first.

If you're saying he has no access to Treasury payment information, man up and say just that.

[Winehole23]

Giving anyone that power would be dangerous. But he doesn't have control over those things, so slow your freakout.tbh, we don't have enough information about DOGE to determine what they have taken/changed. there's no transparency.

[DarrinS]

My SS was hacked in the 2024 National public data breach, so I froze my credit.

[DarrinS]

tbh, we don't have enough information about DOGE to determine what they have taken/changed. there's no transparency.

They can't make any changes

[ChumpDumper]

My SS was hacked in the 2024 National public data breach, so I froze my credit.

What will you do about this data breach?

[Winehole23]

They can't make any changeshow do you know that?

[DarrinS]

how do you know that?

Changes are made at the fed reserve

[DarrinS]

What will you do about this data breach?

I hope Elon doesn't open a Home Depot account in my name

[ChumpDumper]

Changes are made at the fed reserve

The fed changes individual and business tax information?

Link, please.

[Winehole23]

you gotta admit, payments and HR are pretty much the keys to the car, why some private person should have so much unsupervised access to critical government operations mainly makes sense as corruption or a power grab

the $250M for Trump is paying off handsomely for El0n, he's been installed as a quasi-financial comptroller of the USG

[ChumpDumper]

I hope Elon doesn't open a Home Depot account in my name

Would you want Soros to have all this access and power?

[DarrinS]

Would you want Soros to have all this access and power?

He doesn't and neither does Elon. But, resume your meltdowns

[ChumpDumper]

He doesn't and neither does Elon. But, resume your meltdowns

Elon has no access and no power?

Link supporting your claim, please.

[Winehole23]

DarrinS whistling through the graveyard

[DarrinS]

Elon has no access and no power?

Link supporting your claim, please.

I already did, but you didn't watch

[ChumpDumper]

I already did, but you didn't watchIf Elon has no access, what is he doing, Darrin?

Please explain.

You'll need to use your own words here.

[DarrinS]

DarrinS whistling through the graveyard

Whinehole doesn't understand an audit

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole doesn't understand an auditMaybe not.

Does an audit require access to information?

[DarrinS]

If Elon has no access, what is he doing, Darrin?

Please explain.

You'll need to use your own words here.

Auditing

[ChumpDumper]

AuditingDoes an audit require access to information?

Yes or no.

[DarrinS]

Does an audit require access to information?

Yes or no.

Yes

[Winehole23]

Whinehole doesn't understand an auditsure I do, El0n isn't qualified for that

also, US agencies are already audited

[ChumpDumper]

YesDoes Elon have the power to retain, reveal and comment on the information to which you admit he has access?

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

sure I do, El0n isn't qualified for that


:lol

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

they wanted to freeze payments

auditors don't do that

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[DarrinS]

More blue sky screenshots

[Winehole23]

More blue sky screenshots^^^impervious to bona fide info

[ChumpDumper]

More blue sky screenshotsSo no actual rebuttal.:tu

I guess I can find the original tweet for you.

Would that help you out, champ?

[Winehole23]

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/02/elon-musk-doge-security/681600/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Asked why Doge needs access to treasury payment systems including Americans’ social security numbers, home addresses and bank accounts, he replied: “Well, it doesn’t, but they get it very easily. We don’t have very good security in our country.”https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/07/trump-elon-musk-doge-agency

[ChumpDumper]

"We don’t have very good security in our country."

We sure don't now, do we Darrin?

[Winehole23]

very odd that the specific actions of an auditor would directed by the head of the organization he is auditing

or put another way, that a political officer all by himself decides who and what the auditor reviews


“They’re doing it at my insistence. It would be a lot easier not to do it, but we have to take some of these things apart to find the corruption and we’ve found tremendous corruption.”


Pressed on whether there was anything he has told Musk he cannot touch, Trump offered only a vague reply. “Well, we haven’t discussed that much,” he confessed. “I’ll tell them to go here, go there. He does it.

[Winehole23]

is that how professional accountants do it?

let CEOs boss them around while they're auditing the company?

[Winehole23]

Judge Englemayer issues a TRO

Judge Halts DOGE Access to Treasury Payment Systems - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/nyregion/attorneys-general-trump-musk-suit.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vU4.tFcL.O-UpnoYYtbEI&smid=url-share)

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[Winehole23]

as commonly happens with routine financial audits


The defendants — President Trump, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and the Treasury Department — must appear on Feb. 14 before Judge Jeannette A. Vargas, who is handling the case on a permanent basis, Judge Engelmayer said.

[z0sa]

Yeah, like Elon and his tech bros haven't downloaded every bit of it already.

Y'all conservatives went ham and spent millions trying to find wrongdoing for Hillary's private email server (lol). Y'all don't even care if Elon has every bit of your private info on his own.

[Winehole23]

$250M got El0n unprecedented access to government

it also got the government off his back

quid pro quo


In December, NYT revealed that Elon Musk and SpaceX were failing to meet govt reporting protocol designed to protect state secrets while they haul in billions in Pentagon contracts. This triggered three reviews, according to the NYT. One was from the Defense Department inspector general.


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2amnkge5a6hplfwyesmxqkfl/bafkreigmf2emyq72lgeel3ipytvmm4djo7t7cis63eojkooik xltljf4zq@jpeghttps://newrepublic.com/article/191330/trump-quietly-kill-sensitive-pentagon-probe-elon-musk

[Spurs Homer]

lol supporting these DOGE-bags...

[GAustex]

lol loser complaining about losing will continue losing
Loser

[Winehole23]

Yeah, like Elon and his tech bros haven't downloaded every bit of it already.

Y'all conservatives went ham and spent millions trying to find wrongdoing for Hillary's private email server (lol). Y'all don't even care if Elon has every bit of your private info on his own.even worse, they like it

[Winehole23]

cheering on El0n's digital sacking of the US government

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5cn3kbi4g5blrtahon34xbu4/bafkreify5ilalhwlwshjepcsqsva6ytz65mrsroaxto5luku2 4rh6ussgy@jpeghttps://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/doge-ing-questions-in-federal-court

[Winehole23]

Additional reporting by CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-system/index.html) suggests that Krause at one point sought to “immediately shut off all USAID payments using the department’s own ultra-sensitive payment processing system.” The plan was opposed by the then acting secretary of the Treasury Department, David Lebryk, leading to his sudden departure from the agency where he had worked for more than 35 years.

What’s more, while Humphreys told Judge Kollar-Kotelly that staffers currently have read-only access, he seemed to equivocate when she asked whether anything had been done with the records in the past.

JUDGE KOLLAR-KOTELLY: “So the plan you talked about—fraud, waste, etc.—that’s a plan going forward? And nothing has been done with the records relating to that, to date?”

HUMPHREYS: “I don't know that I can say that nothing has been done, Your Honor. I guess my point is that…the allegations that information is being shared with third parties outside of Treasury is incorrect.”

[Winehole23]

At another point, the judge asked whether any of DOGE’s plans had been “implemented.” After a long pause and some back-and-forth with the judge, Humphreys again provided a non-responsive answer:


If I may, Your Honor, I mean, the crux of the plaintiffs’ complaint, I believe, is that this information in Treasury payment systems is being improperly disclosed to third parties. And again, my understanding is that that is not accurate. And so beyond that, I'm not sure that other DOGE activities are necessarily relevant to plaintiffs’ claims.

[Winehole23]

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Members of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency team have obtained “administrator” email accounts at the Department of Education, just as President Donald Trump announced that the billionaire will soon be examining the agency closely.

The rapid deployment of Musk’s aides (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/secrecy-becoming-defining-characteristic-elon-musks-doge-rcna190966) across multiple agencies has raised concern from federal officials, lawmakers and watchdog groups that his team has gained access to sensitive information and is leading a purge of government workers.

When NBC News asked Trump at a White House press conference Friday about allegations that Musk and DOGE’s widespread staff cuts might be unlawful, Trump defended the approach, noting that the Education Department was high on Musk’s list of targets. “He will be looking at education pretty quickly,” Trump said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-doge-team-education-department-rcna191244

[Winehole23]

El0n salting federal agencies with his personal cronies is nbd, it's a normal thing all auditors do

[Winehole23]

Giving anyone that power would be dangerous. But he doesn't have control over those things, so slow your freakout.

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[Winehole23]

Internet routing records show (https://bgp.he.net/net/23.133.104.0/24#_whois) that Coristine runs an Internet service provider called Packetware (AS400495). Also known as “DiamondCDN,” Packetware currently hosts (https://bgp.he.net/net/23.133.104.0/24#_dnsrecords) tesla[.]sexy and diamondcdn[.]com, among other domains.

DiamondCDN was advertised and claimed by someone who used the nickname “Rivage” on several Com-based Discord channels over the years. A review of chat logs from some of those channels show other members frequently referred to Rivage as “Edward.”

From late 2020 to late 2024, Rivage’s conversations would show up in multiple Com chat servers that are closely monitored by security companies. In November 2022, Rivage could be seen requesting recommendations for a reliable and powerful DDoS-for-hire service.

Rivage made that request in the cybercrime channel “Dstat,” a core Com hub where users could buy and sell attack services. Dstat’s website dstat[.]cc was seized (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ddos-site-dstatcc-seized-and-two-suspects-arrested-in-germany/) in 2024 as part of “Operation PowerOFF,” an international law enforcement action against DDoS services.

Coristine’s LinkedIn profile said that in 2022 he worked at an anti-DDoS company called Path Networks, which Wired generously described as a “network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers.” Wired wrote: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/

[Winehole23]

https://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/pathchat.png


Wired noted that Coristine only worked at Path for a few months in 2022, but the story didn’t mention why his tenure was so short. A screenshot shared on the website pathtruths.com (https://www.pathtruths.com/) includes a snippet of conversations in June 2022 between Path employees discussing Coristine’s firing.

According to that record, Path founder Marshal Webb dismissed Coristine for leaking internal documents to a competitor.

[z0sa]

It's only a conspiracy if the center-right is involved. If it's far-right, no chance of a conspiracy at all and the judge's questions are simply irrelevant.

[Winehole23]

Experts say it is extremely difficult for former members of violent street gangs to gain a security clearance needed to view sensitive or classified information held by the U.S. government. That’s because ex-gang members are highly susceptible to extortion and coercion from current members of the same gang, and that alone presents an unacceptable security risk for intelligence agencies.

And make no mistake: The Com is the English-language cybercriminal hacking equivalent of a violent street gang. KrebsOnSecurity has published numerous stories detailing how feuds within the community periodically spill over into real-world violence (https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/violence-as-a-service-brickings-firebombings-shootings-for-hire/).
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/violence-as-a-service-brickings-firebombings-shootings-for-hire/

[Winehole23]

It's only a conspiracy if the center-right is involved. If it's far-right, no chance of a conspiracy at all and the judge's questions are simply irrelevant.it's not a conspiracy if it's not hidden

this is Trump/Musk brazenly trying to assume control of appropriated funds. the intention to stop payment on USAID is basically a done deal, right?

[Winehole23]

all this is per se impeachable

Trump has no colorable authority to cancel, suspend or repurpose funds Congress has already appropriated.

[Spurs Homer]

but but - BIG TECH! is the enemy!!!

[Winehole23]

hiring black hat hackers is apparently standard for routine audits

[Winehole23]

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[z0sa]

all this is per se impeachable

Trump has no colorable authority to cancel, suspend or repurpose funds Congress has already appropriated.

Trump has a majority of Republicans' balls in his fanny pack.

[Winehole23]

The intelligence report also shows how The Com is leveraging the cybercrime knowledge within its subgroups to go beyond ransomware attacks or data breaches and into areas the FBI classifies as terrorism.


An October 2023 intelligence note says in March of that year, 6996, a group associated with The Com, published what it called “The Bible” on its Telegram channel, “highlighting techniques for conducting ATM/Debit/Credit Card skimming, IP Grabbing, forming a cult, doxing and extortion/grooming.”

[Winehole23]

Trump has a majority of Republicans' balls in his fanny pack.no shit

[Winehole23]

on deck, DOGE will examine another sensitive US Treasury system


After creating an uproar last week for demanding access to a sensitive system at the Treasury Department, officials affiliated with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency are expected to turn their attention to another restricted database next week, according to two people with knowledge of their plans.


The new target, the sources said, is a database that tracks the flow of money across the government, from the Treasury to specific agencies and then to the ultimate destination of the funds.


The data in the system, known as the Central Accounting Reporting System, or CARS, is considered sensitive.
https://www.propublica.org/article/elon-musk-doge-cars-treasury-examine

[Winehole23]

CARS is intended to standardize accounting across government agencies and account for how money is moved. It’s unclear what specifically the DOGE team’s interest in the system is. When government auditors have examined the system in the past, the Treasury has pushed for them to do it in secure environments or on the Fiscal Service’s laptops.

[Blake]

It's only a conspiracy if the center-right is involved. If it's far-right, no chance of a conspiracy at all and the judge's questions are simply irrelevant.

Pretty much

[Winehole23]

https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/alex-karp.jpg?w=990Palantir CEO Alex Karp sure seems happy about the prospect of using his technology to "kill." Christoph Hardt/ZUMA Press


On a call with investors earlier this week, Palantir Technologies CEO Alex Karp (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/21/magazine/palantir-alex-karp.html)—fresh off a week of stock surges—was euphoric. “We’re doin’ it!” he yelled, arms spread wide. “And I’m sure you’re enjoying this as much as I am!”

The “it” in question? It seemed to be a reference to enabling President Donald Trump’s administration to carry out mass deportation (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/technology/trump-immigration-deportation-surveillance.html) and police surveillance domestically, while aiding the “West” globally—actions that, “on occasion,” Karp said on the call, may involve the need to “kill.”

“I’m very happy to have you along for the journey,” the CEO said. “We are crushing it. We are dedicating our company to the service of the West and the United States of America, and we’re super-proud of the role we play, especially in places we can’t talk about.”

“Palantir is here to disrupt,” he continued. “And, when it’s necessary, to scare our enemies and, on occasion, kill them.” (Palantir did not respond to a request for comment.)https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/02/palantir-alex-karp-trump-private-prisons-profiteers/

[Winehole23]

he sounds nice


Founded in 2003 by Karp and Trump donor Peter Thiel (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/07/blake-masters-peter-thiel-donald-trump-arizona-senate-mark-kelly/), Palantir supplies data analysis software—called “ (https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/digitaliberties/five-reasons-to-worry-about-spy-tech-firm-palantir-handling-your-nhs-data/)spy tech (https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/digitaliberties/five-reasons-to-worry-about-spy-tech-firm-palantir-handling-your-nhs-data/)” (https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/digitaliberties/five-reasons-to-worry-about-spy-tech-firm-palantir-handling-your-nhs-data/) by its critics—to governments and companies. That software has reportedly been used to help generate “kill lists” (https://www.thenation.com/article/world/nsa-palantir-israel-gaza-ai/) for the Israeli Defense Forces, target (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/04/palantir-ipo-ice-immigration-trump-administration) immigrant families for deportation from the United States, and e (https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/)nable rogue employees to spy (https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/) on co-workers.

Karp made Palantir’s relationship to violence more forcefully evident in his latest letter to shareholders, released Monday. In the document, he quotes political scientist Samuel P. Huntington, who famously wrote that Hispanics cannot assimilate into American (https://www.publicbooks.org/what-does-assimilation-mean/) society. “The rise of the West was not made possible ‘by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion,’” Karp says in the letter (https://www.palantir.com/q4-2024-letter/en/), “‘but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence.’”

[Winehole23]

Karp said Musk’s slash-and-burn effort to reshape the federal government would be “very good” for his company, which generates about two-thirds of its US revenue from government contracts (https://www.ft.com/content/b9f00d80-bd60-4660-a544-3b7f79795d5f), according to the Financial Times.

[Winehole23]

“There’s a revolution. Some people get their heads cut off,” Karp said. “We’re expecting to see really unexpected things, and to win.”

[ducks]

Hillary Clinton kept a private server in her bathroom, with State secrets on it.

Joe Biden had classified documents, that he was not authorized to have as VP, at an office in UPenn and in his unsecured garage.

Any Democrat claiming they care about your data, is full of shit.

[ChumpDumper]

Hillary Clinton kept a private server in her bathroom, with State secrets on it.

Joe Biden had classified documents, that he was not authorized to have as VP, at an office in UPenn and in his unsecured garage.

Any Democrat claiming they care about your data, is full of shit.

Do you care about your data?

[Thread]

Hillary Clinton kept a private server in her bathroom, with State secrets on it.

Joe Biden had classified documents, that he was not authorized to have as VP, at an office in UPenn and in his unsecured garage.

Any Democrat claiming they care about your data, is full of shit.

Amen.

[DarrinS]

Do you care about your data?

I do. That's why I froze my credit during the zombie regime.

[ChumpDumper]

I do. That's why I froze my credit during the zombie regime.So what's your excuse for this breach?

There is no transparency here. You will never know what's happening or has already happened.

[Blake]

I do. That's why I froze my credit during the zombie regime.

So you were more worried about someone opening a home depot credit card in your name a year ago than you are today with Elon running roughshod through these departments that have your info.

Makes perfect sense.

[GAustex]

Elon and his coders
Just think about this

Are barely getting started

LOL

[ChumpDumper]

Elon and his coders
Just think about this

Are barely getting started

LOL

Yeah, you crave chaos because you're boring.

[GAustex]

Yeah, you crave chaos because you're boring.
The best part of it all is it pisses you off.

[Blake]

The best part of it all is it pisses you off.

That's the only part of it for you weirdos

[ChumpDumper]

The best part of it all is it pisses you off.That's very important to you.

Sad.

[GAustex]

Both of ya
All pissed off
Fraud of epic proportions is being exposed

And both of you losers…

And there is no mistake you are losers

Are pissed off

And there is nothing you can do except light something on fire.

Do it.

[ChumpDumper]

Both of ya
All pissed off
Fraud of epic proportions is being exposed

And both of you losers…

And there is no mistake you are losers

Are pissed off

And there is nothing you can do except light something on fire.

Do it.

Are you fapping to all the medical research and trials that have been stopped?

Are you rooting for cancer?

C'mon, you're drunk. Let it all out.

[Winehole23]

seems intuitive to me

we already know that "Big Balls" Coristine basically has a black hat hacking background at The Com


like it is impossible to imagine the activities of any of these DOGE guys not being treated as a massive legacy threat in the future, we already know some of them have ties to cybercriminals and I guarantee you foreign intelligence agencies know way more about them personally than you or me

[ducks]

Nate Silver NateSilver538
·
10h
It's hard to know which info to trust these days but a good heuristic is that people who *still think now* that Biden running for reelection at age 82 was a good idea are probably not among the first sources you might consult.

[z0sa]

Both of ya
All pissed off
Fraud of epic proportions is being exposed

And both of you losers…

And there is no mistake you are losers

Are pissed off

And there is nothing you can do except light something on fire.

Do it.

Cancer and cardiomyopathy research = fraud.

Cancer good now.

[ducks]

President Donald J. Trump hits all-time high approval rating for a CBS poll at +6

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1888597337242534096

[ducks]

Just learned that the social security database is not de-duplicated, meaning you can have the same SSN many times over, which further enables MASSIVE FRAUD!!

Your tax dollars are being stolen.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1888484555092312466

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1888314848477376744

To be clear, what the DOGE
team and
@USTreasury
have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

- Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

- All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

- The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from DOGE
. It is ridiculous that these changes didn’t exist already!

Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.

[Winehole23]

it's a digital coup

y'all really down with this, Trumpies?


We are in the midst of a political (https://theconversation.com/efficiency-or-empire-how-elon-musks-hostile-takeover-could-end-government-as-we-know-it-249262)coup (https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/courts-cant-stop-the-trump-musk-coup/) that, if successful, would forever change the nature of American government. It is not taking place in the streets. There is no martial law. It is taking place (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/doge-musk-goals/) cubicle by cubicle in federal agencies (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/elon-musk-doge-federal-agencies-cuts-employees/) and in the mundane automation of bureaucracy. The rationale is based on a productivity myth (https://www.techpolicy.press/challenging-the-myths-of-generative-ai/) that the goal of bureaucracy is merely what it produces (services, information, governance) and can be isolated from the process through which democracy achieves those ends: debate, deliberation, and consensus.


AI then becomes a tool for replacing politics. The Trump administration frames generative AI as a remedy to "government waste." However, what it seeks to automate is not paperwork but democratic decision-making. Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are banking on a popular but false delusion that word prediction technologies make meaningful inferences about the world. They are using it to sidestep Congressional oversight of the budget, which is, Constitutionally, the allotment of resources to government programs through representative politics.

While discussing an AI coup may seem conspiratorial or paranoid, it's banal. In contrast to Musk and his acolytes' ongoing claims of "existential risk," which envision AI taking over the world through brute force, an AI coup rises from collective decisions about how much power we hand to machines. It is political offloading, shifting the messy work of winning political debates to the false authority of machine analytics. It's a way of displacing the collective decision-making at the core of representative politics.



Amidst the chaos in Washington, Silicon Valley firms will continue to build their case that they are the answer. We can expect another industry announcement of a radical new capability for AI in the near future. OpenAI may once again claim to reach PhD-level intelligence (as in September 2024 (https://www.fastcompany.com/91189817/openais-new-o1-models-push-ai-to-phd-level-intelligence) and again in January 2025 (https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/ai-superagent-openai-meta)), or DOGE may launch a new chatbot trained on government data.


After months of ridiculing the civil service for ineptitude and shouting about the woke politics of academic research institutions, a new delusion about word prediction will likely emerge from any such announcement. In that story, the beneficiaries of the AI coup will announce the perfect solution to government failures and their reviled commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion in science. The solution will be a "centralized data repository" hooked to a chatbot and a suite of promises.


Shedd described such a project on tape (https://www.404media.co/things-are-going-to-get-intense-how-a-musk-ally-plans-to-push-ai-on-the-government/) at a meeting with his new team:


Because as we decrease the overall size of the federal government, as you all know, there's still a ton of programs that need to exist, which is this huge opportunity for technology and automation to come in full force, which is why you all are so key and critical to this next phase…It is the time to build because, as I was saying, the demand for technical services is going to go through the roof.

To serve its purpose, any generative AI deployed here wouldn't have to be good at making decisions or even showcase any new capacities at all. It merely has to be considered a plausible competitor to human decision-making long enough to dislodge the existing human decision-makers in civil service, workers who embody the institution's values and mission. Once replaced, the human knowledge that produces the institution will be lost.

Once the employees are terminated, the institution is no longer itself. Trump and Musk can shift it to any purpose inscribed into the chatbot's system prompt, directing the kind of output it is allowed to provide a user.
https://www.techpolicy.press/anatomy-of-an-ai-coup/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

"To replace the existing civil service, DOGE associates have been feeding vast troves of government records and databases into artificial intelligence tools, looking for unwanted federal programs and trying to determine which human work can be replaced by AI, machine-learning tools or even robots."https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/doge-musk-goals/

[GAustex]

Come you lefties
Get out there
In the streets
Burn something or shoot someone
Do something

[ducks]

https://x.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1888598394127434076


NEW: President Trump orders Elon Musk to hire 45 new DOGE agents to audit FBI, CIA, Pentagon.

[Blake]

Just learned that the social security database is not de-duplicated, meaning you can have the same SSN many times over, which further enables MASSIVE FRAUD!!

Your tax dollars are being stolen.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1888484555092312466

Musk with the "look over here" while he's robbing over there

[Blake]

Come you lefties
Get out there
In the streets
Burn something or shoot someone
Do something

What's wrong with you?

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:gpnca5cprqfxcz3i3jjlmi35/bafkreignbk6aenpt3fjbydv4b3n44fjyv57wthq744girb3vh gfis3b44u@jpeg

If it wasn't already, I'm certain now that handwaving has been canonized into the Republican playbook, being taught to young Republicans in the republican class.

[Winehole23]

What's wrong with you?impatient for political violence to break out

[DarrinS]

1888036453499752845

[Winehole23]

what's your take on what you just posted, Silent Bob?

[z0sa]

what's your take on what you just posted, Silent Bob?

His "takes" are plastic and depend solely upon 1) what Fox news and X has told him to say and/or 2) what you say, IE he will be a contrarian and say something the opposite or as close as he can.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rfqxk4moeeaputu63rm4tfdc/bafkreibwwzsco7tpfkyctabenswucqhz62jil4z4cilq43usz q3y2prttq@jpegthere's no gravy train like the Musk gravy train

Tesla gets beaucoup tax credits from Uncle Sam

SpaceX gets about 35% of its funding from the USG, IIRC


Tesla paid $0 in federal income tax last year.
2022: $0
2021: $0
2020: $0
2019: $0
2018: $0

Tesla reported $6.7 billion in profit in those years.

[Winehole23]

and now he's angling for the bid to replace the civil service with machines

[GAustex]

After DOGE is done
Move on and do City of Austin
Them corrupt bastards need to be exposed too

[ChumpDumper]

After DOGE is done
Move on and do City of Austin
Them corrupt bastards need to be exposed too

Is Elon going to audit himself?

[GAustex]

No
But Elon is not beyond reproach

In fact you screaming lefties should go for that

Get er done

I am all for that

[GAustex]

Just be careful what you might get

[Winehole23]

Just be careful what you might getwhat do you think is going to happen?

[GAustex]

From the Elon audit?

Maybe he is clean and runs a well oiled machine that shames NASA?

Please clarify your question

[Winehole23]

and now he's angling for the bid to replace the civil service with machinesboiled down, El0n is sacking and vandalizing the US government -- our republic -- to the advantage of the billionaires, corporations and large propertied interests who basically fund elections now

[Winehole23]

part of the dramatic tension here, is that El0n wields mighty discretion and is breathtakingly dumb at the same time

Trump also has this quality

[Blake]

From the Elon audit?

Maybe he is clean and runs a well oiled machine that shames NASA?

Please clarify your question

Lol "maybe he is clean"

[Blake]

Also lol "runs a well oiled machine"

[GAustex]

Dude catches rocket ship like you catch Kamala farts

[Blake]

Dude catches rocket ship like you catch Kamala farts

"..How much did SpaceX's Starship Flight 7 explosion pollute the atmosphere?
News
By Tereza Pultarova published February 2, 2025
Scientists are not sure how much metallic dust remained in the atmosphere after the most recent SpaceX rocket 'disassembly.'....

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/how-much-did-spacexs-starship-flight-7-explosion-pollute-the-atmosphere

[Winehole23]

Dude catches rocket ship like you catch Kamala fartsthat's a cool trick, but El0n didn't do that

[DarrinS]

Putting a zero in El0n's name is SOOOOO hilarious. I admire the dedication.

[Winehole23]

Putting a zero in El0n's name is SOOOOO hilarious. I admire the dedication.to what, exactly?

[ChumpDumper]

Just be careful what you might get

Talking to yourself?

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4mvxzjukalrcg754hpkb62i5/bafkreiblhf3o626pcphkhtsfdjqlmkdcyhheyzs6s6ibm42hm p3lbc7wsu@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4mvxzjukalrcg754hpkb62i5/bafkreidnxgk4wyf6xyfgfiz4l6ei4rjougq55icut2xgdbuux bjbibparm@jpeg

[ducks]

Dear Democrats,

You all want to pretend to be worried about a “constitutional crisis?”

Fine. How about the last 4-8 years, when:
- The opposing political party wiretapped and spied on their opponent?
- Deep state actors lied to President Trump about how many troops are in Syria?
- When the Democrats raided the home of their political opponent?
- When the Democrats launched and acted on several sham, weaponized criminal cases against their opponent (none of which succeeded)?
- When Joe Biden circumvented Congress and the courts to try and make the American taxpayer pay off other people’s student loan debt?
- When Biden tried to unilaterally re-write various laws without Congress, such as deciding Title IX meant to enact radical gender ideology nationwide?

And what about your entire party platform being anti-Constitution? Free speech, 2A, religious liberty, etc?

We could go on and on.

You never complained about the Constitution mattering when violations actually occurred.

You can shut it.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1888653696101163055

[GAustex]

Them chickens
They coming
Home to roost

[Blake]

Them chickens
They coming
Home to roost

Not quite a haiku

[Blake]

Dear Democrats,

You all want to pretend to be worried about a “constitutional crisis?”

Fine. How about the last 4-8 years, when:
- The opposing political party wiretapped and spied on their opponent?
- Deep state actors lied to President Trump about how many troops are in Syria?
- When the Democrats raided the home of their political opponent?
- When the Democrats launched and acted on several sham, weaponized criminal cases against their opponent (none of which succeeded)?
- When Joe Biden circumvented Congress and the courts to try and make the American taxpayer pay off other people’s student loan debt?
- When Biden tried to unilaterally re-write various laws without Congress, such as deciding Title IX meant to enact radical gender ideology nationwide?

And what about your entire party platform being anti-Constitution? Free speech, 2A, religious liberty, etc?

We could go on and on.

You never complained about the Constitution mattering when violations actually occurred.

You can shut it.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1888653696101163055

Lol rando Trump tard tweet

[Winehole23]

SHUT UP

https://i2.wp.com/4.bp.blogspot.com/-Iez7jQpOShw/XrcpSyMGykI/AAAAAAAAgd0/2bFDKZGCr_c5Bi1-xVGps-oNsheGCovagCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Little_Richard.JPG?ssl=1

[SnakeBoy]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4mvxzjukalrcg754hpkb62i5/bafkreiblhf3o626pcphkhtsfdjqlmkdcyhheyzs6s6ibm42hm p3lbc7wsu@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4mvxzjukalrcg754hpkb62i5/bafkreidnxgk4wyf6xyfgfiz4l6ei4rjougq55icut2xgdbuux bjbibparm@jpeg

https://i1.wp.com/49.media.tumblr.com/26d02659f782812a8dc3bf5e6ddb24e5/tumblr_mvwk3h6KrH1rhmne4o1_500.gif?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C273&ssl=1

[Winehole23]

big mad he got caught cheating


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:wz3eu3fzuewjtnub4ij4ndjw/bafkreiaialbt7fdnjneibmi5ej2ylmil4ywxuwskaualoy5tk o4mbgxq3u@jpeg

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:o4h5r2albulagzxvhp634tof/bafkreic6sebuh2nglsjknftwzc4po77ggsbr74dkkymnxcb5y jc327mvne@jpeghttps://www.propublica.org/article/usaid-trump-musk-destruction-may-have-broken-law

[Winehole23]

WIRED has been awesome on this beat

The US Government Is Not a Startup | WIRED (https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-government-is-not-a-startup/)

[Winehole23]

utterly radical

also insane


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:k7wfpfm3ava6krd3esmcwavs/bafkreidqh4gcjj4ve3zp7fkff4rfsvsv74brgybcgdowlit5n lrqq3aw3a@jpeg

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:3sdmz6s2qw7zydlhwqluezj5/bafkreieuhzgemml2tjktbijdtv4jgozlgour4k57fr5fggroz 2f7bphaz4@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Them chickens
They coming
Home to roostwhen Trump's purge of the bureaucracy, education and scientific research takes out millions of associated jobs

there will also be birds coming home to roost

[ChumpDumper]

Them chickens
They coming
Home to roost

Are you about to murder more black and brown people in stores?

You know you want to.

[GAustex]

Cummy u are losing it
Seek help

[ChumpDumper]

Cummy u are losing it
Seek help
It's what your side does.

You've been demanding our side go out and commit violence for weeks now.

Why are you crying foul now?

[Thread]

when Trump's purge of the bureaucracy, education and scientific research takes out millions of associated jobs

there will also be birds coming home to roost

But he lit those fucks up...made 'em crawl out the fuckin' door, one after anothern.

[SnakeBoy]

1888633289759736087

[Thread]

1888633289759736087

Hallelujah!!!

[ChumpDumper]

1888633289759736087

Is Elon going to audit Elon's defense contracts?

[Winehole23]

i get that lots of early autocracy involves semi-unofficial agencies with euphemistic names doing purges and takeovers, but you just cannot say "the DOGE locked officials out of the department of education while their billionaire junta head declared it nonexistent" without seeming weird to americans

[Winehole23]

the vice president will fire and doxx you if he sees pronouns in your bio but thinks it's actually super problematic to be mean to a 25-year-old groyper bc of his post history

[Blake]

1888633289759736087

What's DOGE's budget?

[Winehole23]

beaucoup conflicts of interest

for which El0n will investigate himself


The CFPB uses a process called “supervision” to comb through the internal information and processes of financial institutions, the official explained, producing records the bureau describes as confidential supervisory information, or CSI. “If I were a potential competitor to Elon’s planned payments app, I would be concerned about DOGE looking at my CSI,” the official said. “Some of the information he now has access to: Violations of law that aren’t public, information about the systems and processes they use, the investigative tactics that the bureau used to uncover information about violations of law, how many customers they have.”


“Musk now has tremendous access to confidential information about his competitors,” the official warned.


The White House has said that it will be up to Musk to decide whether his work at DOGE conflicts with his business interests. “If Elon Musk comes across a conflict of interest with the contracts and the funding that DOGE is overseeing, then Elon will excuse himself from those contracts,” White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Wednesday.
https://www.muskwatch.com/p/musk-associates-granted-access-to

[Winehole23]

I know it's quaint to cite the law, smoke em if you got em


Special government employees like Musk are forbidden by law (https://www.npr.org/2025/02/03/nx-s1-5285539/doge-musk-usaid-trump) from participating in government operations that affect their financial holdings.

[Winehole23]

whoops, El0n's groyper techbro got to play with Treasury source code in a sandbox

this is from the DOJ's filing last night

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbp2b224lro3bfnzcqwwnkfo/bafkreiaywvja5cw22mhs7infiyit3gfr65e2zpa6pbexj6ej5 tfydn2piu@jpeg

[Winehole23]

"I have no reason to believe" is load-bearing



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbp2b224lro3bfnzcqwwnkfo/bafkreihftn4l45onio2qdjd4cw2y7mrvr4ky4z7xv635ysfuf 45jnfkxba@jpeghttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.636609/gov.uscourts.nysd.636609.12.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

beaucoup conflicts of interest

for which El0n will investigate himself

https://www.muskwatch.com/p/musk-associates-granted-access-to

Lol "Elon will excuse himself from conflicts of interest"

Only Trump tards believe that

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:uyukfd3yuvqv43hmv5bp3ifr/bafkreibt6ynrqgkngy4baq24pi2az6rhfsv2ldyu7mf5crqcv pdrdul2b4@jpeg

I haven't figured out yet what Trump himself is gaining by allowing Musk to do whatever he wants

[Winehole23]

I haven't figured out yet what Trump himself is gaining by allowing Musk to do whatever he wantsarms length distance from the carnage

a scapegoat when it becomes clear that a lot of MAGAs will be hurt too

and showing the biggest donors that they will not be forgotten

[Blake]

arms length distance from the carnage

a scapegoat when it becomes clear that a lot of MAGAs will be hurt too

and showing the biggest donors that they will not be forgotten

Maybe. I think Trump is simpler than that and just wants personal opportunities and money. I mean this is the guy that marketed Trump basketball shoes, coins and a maga Bible

[SnakeBoy]

1888485377465315795

[SnakeBoy]

1888314848477376744

To be clear, what the
DOGE
team and
@USTreasury
have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

- Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

- All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

- The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from
DOGE
. It is ridiculous that these changes didn’t exist already!

Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.

[SnakeBoy]

1888891512303263815

[ChumpDumper]

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Is Elon a lawyer too?

[ChumpDumper]

1888485377465315795

Old people and the disabled are going to be cut off.

[Winehole23]

1888485377465315795Weiird that El0n didn't hire any forensic accountants and that a political officer is calling the shots on the audit.

To say nothing of the manifest conflicts of interest of the auditor.

Will El0n submit his report to Congress so it can act on its suggestions?

[Thread]

Weiird that El0n didn't hire any forensic accountants and that a political officer is calling the shots on the audit.

To say nothing of the manifest conflicts of interest of the auditor.

Will El0n submit his report to Congress so it can act on its suggestions?

Only AFTER Trump gets first crack, Winester.

[SnakeBoy]

Democrats taking the pro waste, fraud, and abuse is weird

[ChumpDumper]

Democrats taking the pro waste, fraud, and abuse is weirdWho is going to audit Elon?

And why do you hate America's farmers?

[Blake]

Democrats taking the pro waste, fraud, and abuse is weird

You voted for a felon

[SnakeBoy]

1889044068543434921

[ChumpDumper]

1889044068543434921

Trump just said we don't have to pay.

Pick a lane.

[SnakeBoy]

(Bloomberg) -- Federal cost-cutting initiatives pushed by President Donald Trump have turned their focus to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, where spending on consultants like Deloitte now faces scrutiny.

Workers at the agency have been asked to provide by Tuesday evening plain-language explanations of contracts and designate which are “non-essential” and should be terminated or reduced, according to documents seen by Bloomberg News. Contracts from dozens of consultants, including Guidehouse, Serco Group Plc., and the Cadmus Group are being reviewed, the documents state.

https://i.imgur.com/K6K0Omv.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/qJILJvi.jpeg

[ChumpDumper]

(Bloomberg) -- Federal cost-cutting initiatives pushed by President Donald Trump have turned their focus to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, where spending on consultants like Deloitte now faces scrutiny.

Workers at the agency have been asked to provide by Tuesday evening plain-language explanations of contracts and designate which are “non-essential” and should be terminated or reduced, according to documents seen by Bloomberg News. Contracts from dozens of consultants, including Guidehouse, Serco Group Plc., and the Cadmus Group are being reviewed, the documents state.

https://i.imgur.com/K6K0Omv.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/qJILJvi.jpeg

As a white male, does DEI terrify you?

In your opinion?

[Blake]

1889044068543434921

Holy cow!

[Yonivore]

unfortunately for y'all, similar is true for the levels of corruption and incompetence
Let me know when you uncover dozens of offshore bank accounts funneling money from foreign countries (some of the adversaries) to Trump's family and friends -- with 10% going to the Orange Man.

[Yonivore]

https://davidpepper.substack.com/p/a-digital-coup-a-tech-expert-fills
https://i.postimg.cc/3ww7Y3Fp/MEME-IM-COUP.jpg

[Yonivore]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:uyukfd3yuvqv43hmv5bp3ifr/bafkreibt6ynrqgkngy4baq24pi2az6rhfsv2ldyu7mf5crqcv pdrdul2b4@jpeg
Please tell me some idiot paid for that and it isn't just a photoshop.

[Winehole23]

https://i.postimg.cc/3ww7Y3Fp/MEME-IM-COUP.jpgwhen the executive steals the spending power from Congress and ignores judicial rulings, it's a coup

[Winehole23]

Let me know when you uncover dozens of offshore bank accounts funneling money from foreign countries (some of the adversaries) to Trump's family and friends -- with 10% going to the Orange Man.that was not proven whatsoever

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

the DOJ lied -- er, is correcting its statements

El0n/Trump placed 2,000 people on leave, not 500

it nuked all the contracts, not just future ones






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[Winehole23]

Trump isn't testing the law, he's breaking it brazenly and daring the judicial branch to stop him

Trump's playing constitutional chicken -- which he just swore an oath not to

[Winehole23]

CFPB has returned over $17B to people swindled by businesses, that's what El0n is really upset over -- the accountability


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[Winehole23]

USAID IG reports

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https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/USAID%20OIG%20-%20Oversight%20of%20USAID-Funded%20Humanitarian%20Assistance%20Programming%2 0021025.pdf

[Winehole23]

pausing spending for review is illegal impoundment, period

[Thread]

pausing spending for review is illegal impoundment, period

So you say.

[Winehole23]

"El0n Musk will manage his own conflicts of interest"

https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-openai-bid-4af12827

[Thread]

"El0n Musk will manage his own conflicts of interest"

https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-openai-bid-4af12827

Whatever it takes. You need the House, son. Either that in 2 years, or, stand down AGAIN like in Pennsylvania and/or Florida.

[Winehole23]

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[Thread]

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That's what Twitter said the first time Musk came a knockin'.

Q. "What's make a muskrat guard his musk?"

A. "Courage."

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreihahcps45qsrfvvsn7lchhq5cproc7pugbhpzoy25ski 763mlj5hq@jpeghttps://www.levernews.com/musk-targets-his-companies-regulators/

[Thread]

https://www.levernews.com/musk-targets-his-companies-regulators/

That's why you needed the House, Winester.

You didn't get it, son. ha, ha.

So you're relegated to knocking on Judge's doors M-F with weekends set aside for Dem rallies tryin' to get 'em riled up enough to stand down again.

[Winehole23]

qua DOGE, El0n does the same thing he does on Twitter -- he just makes shit up


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Only AFTER Trump gets first crack, Winester.Appropriations aren't advisory, they're laws. POTUS is bound to execute them faithfully.

[ChumpDumper]

Let me know when you uncover dozens of offshore bank accounts funneling money from foreign countries (some of the adversaries) to Trump's family and friends -- with 10% going to the Orange Man.

Let's see all the information ourselves.

They're completely transparent, aren't they?

[Winehole23]

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[Yonivore]

that was not proven whatsoever
Okay, Hillary.

[DarrinS]

A week-long screeching about El0n into the void of ST politico forum. Congrats

Ctrl-c Ctrl-v repeat

Maybe, get some sleep? :lmao

[Yonivore]

Democrats Uncover Devious Billionaire Plot To Spend Billions Buying Social Media Company To Get President Trump Elected In Order To Access The Treasury Database And Steal Grandma's $695 Social Security Check (https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-uncover-devious-billionaire-plot-to-spend-billions-buying-social-media-company-to-get-president-trump-elected-in-order-to-access-the-treasury-database-and-steal-grandmas-695-social-)
https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/67aa50835ad5867aa50835ad59.jpg

[Winehole23]

A week-long screeching about El0n into the void of ST politico forum. Congrats

Ctrl-c Ctrl-v repeat

Maybe, get some sleep? :lmaoEl0n/Trump hijacking federal transfers, HR and building leases is fairly momentous

[TSA]

USAID IG reports

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:on5oeywiqx32fh2zau473wz6/bafkreic5fvp56ohyuha3wx4zx7eiji2pmetndczacx4gf4zzn rn5hj3fsy@jpeg
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https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/USAID%20OIG%20-%20Oversight%20of%20USAID-Funded%20Humanitarian%20Assistance%20Programming%2 0021025.pdfhttps://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-01/USAID%20Inspector%20General%20Memorandum%20Challen ges%20to%20Accountability%20and%20Transparency%20W ithin%20USAID-Funded%20Programs.pdf

https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2024-09/Oversight%20of%20Funding%20to%20UN%20September%201 0%202024.pdf

https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2024-12/TMC_FY_2025-FINAL.pdf

What's the common theme?

[Winehole23]

just hit the snooze bar, Darrin.

you're not paying attention and you don't have anything to say

[Yonivore]

El0n/Trump hijacking federal transfers, HR and building leases is fairly momentous
Perhaps you should read the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title2/chapter17B&edition=prelim). Better yet, find one of your Lefty lawyers to explain why this act doesn't apply to the Executive Branch's actions, so far.

Bottom line (but, I encourage you to read the entire Act):

1) This law limits the President’s ability to withhold funds appropriated by Congress.
2) The President can propose to rescind or defer spending, but Congress must approve a rescission within 45 days, or the funds must be released.
3) A deferral (temporary delay) is allowed but must not extend beyond the end of the fiscal year unless Congress agrees.

And, the 45 day limit [on the President's recommendation of a rescission of all or part of funding] is counted in days Congress is in continuous session.

§682, (3) - "'rescission bill' means a bill or joint resolution which only rescinds, in whole or in part, budget authority proposed to be rescinded in a special message transmitted by the President under section 683 of this title, and upon which the Congress completes action before the end of the first period of 45 calendar days of continuous session of the Congress after the date on which the President's message is received by the Congress;..."

My understanding, from the sources I read, are that deferred payments can last through the fiscal year.

The President conformed to the requirement he report these rescissions and deferrals to Congress. Now, withing 45 days (for rescissions), they must address it. It seems to me, these judges and their restraining orders are the ones that are committing the coup.

[Blake]

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I wish there was a way that would only affect the dumbfucks that voted for him

[Blake]

Perhaps you should read the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title2/chapter17B&edition=prelim). Better yet, find one of your Lefty lawyers to explain why this act doesn't apply to the Executive Branch's actions, so far.

Bottom line (but, I encourage you to read the entire Act):

1) This law limits the President’s ability to withhold funds appropriated by Congress.
2) The President can propose to rescind or defer spending, but Congress must approve a rescission within 45 days, or the funds must be released.
3) A deferral (temporary delay) is allowed but must not extend beyond the end of the fiscal year unless Congress agrees.

And, the 45 day limit [on the President's recommendation of a rescission of all or part of funding] is counted in days Congress is in continuous session.

§682, (3) - "'rescission bill' means a bill or joint resolution which only rescinds, in whole or in part, budget authority proposed to be rescinded in a special message transmitted by the President under section 683 of this title, and upon which the Congress completes action before the end of the first period of 45 calendar days of continuous session of the Congress after the date on which the President's message is received by the Congress;..."

My understanding, from the sources I read, are that deferred payments can last through the fiscal year.

The President conformed to the requirement he report these rescissions and deferrals to Congress. Now, withing 45 days (for rescissions), they must address it. It seems to me, these judges and their restraining orders are the ones that are committing the coup.

Lol "my understanding"

[Yonivore]

Lol "my understanding"
Read the Act yourself and tell me your understanding.

[Blake]

Read the Act yourself and tell me your understanding.

I'm fine with a judge ruling that's it's probably illegal for the president to withhold funds appropriated by Congress.

[ChumpDumper]

Perhaps you should read the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title2/chapter17B&edition=prelim). Better yet, find one of your Lefty lawyers to explain why this act doesn't apply to the Executive Branch's actions, so far.

Bottom line (but, I encourage you to read the entire Act):

1) This law limits the President’s ability to withhold funds appropriated by Congress.
2) The President can propose to rescind or defer spending, but Congress must approve a rescission within 45 days, or the funds must be released.
3) A deferral (temporary delay) is allowed but must not extend beyond the end of the fiscal year unless Congress agrees.

And, the 45 day limit [on the President's recommendation of a rescission of all or part of funding] is counted in days Congress is in continuous session.

§682, (3) - "'rescission bill' means a bill or joint resolution which only rescinds, in whole or in part, budget authority proposed to be rescinded in a special message transmitted by the President under section 683 of this title, and upon which the Congress completes action before the end of the first period of 45 calendar days of continuous session of the Congress after the date on which the President's message is received by the Congress;..."

My understanding, from the sources I read, are that deferred payments can last through the fiscal year.

The President conformed to the requirement he report these rescissions and deferrals to Congress. Now, withing 45 days (for rescissions), they must address it. It seems to me, these judges and their restraining orders are the ones that are committing the coup.

Do you have a link to Trump's special message to Congress?

[Yonivore]

I'm fine with a judge ruling that's it's probably illegal for the president to withhold funds appropriated by Congress.
And, there's your problem. "Probably" isn't a legal position.

[ChumpDumper]

And, there's your problem. "Probably" isn't a legal position.You can appeal.

[Yonivore]

Do you have a link to Trump's special message to Congress?
According to the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, the President's transmittal does not have to be public. I haven't heard anyone in Congress saying he didn't properly notify them, in accordance with the ICA so, I'm going to presume all the caterwauling we're seeing, out of our elected officials, is just a delay tactic to run out the 45-day clock.

[ChumpDumper]

According to the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, the President's transmittal does not have to be public. I haven't heard anyone in Congress saying he didn't properly notify them, in accordance with the ICA so, I'm going to presume all the caterwauling we're seeing, out of our elected officials, is just a delay tactic to run out the 45-day clock.So it's a totally secret letter that is being hidden from you?

Why?

What does he have to hide?

[TSA]

Read the Act yourself and tell me your understanding.

He constantly declares anything beyond two sentences a text wall that he will refuse to read...that lazy fucker isn't going to read the actual act :lol

[ChumpDumper]

He constantly declares anything beyond two sentences a text wall that he will refuse to read...that lazy fucker isn't going to read the actual act :lol

Isn't the message supposed to be in the Federal Register?

Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

Let me know, prof.

[Yonivore]

Isn't the message supposed to be in the Federal Register?

Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

Let me know, prof.
The Federal Register is only used for Executive Orders, rules, regulations, and other PUBLIC notices. Since the ICA doesn't describe the notice as being public but, directly to both houses of Congress, it is not required to be published in the Federal Register.

[ChumpDumper]

Latest issue of the Federal Registry is out now. I figure a detailed and itemized accounting of Trump's impoundment actions is available for all of us to see now, right?

[ChumpDumper]

The Federal Register is only used for Executive Orders, rules, regulations, and other PUBLIC notices. Since the ICA doesn't describe the notice as being public but, directly to both houses of Congress, it is not required to be published in the Federal Register.According to whom?

Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

That's basically the definition of a public notice.

Where is the text saying "nuh-uh"?

[Yonivore]

According to whom?

Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

That's basically the definition of a public notice.

Where is the text saying "nuh-uh"?
Well, since requirement to publish in the Federal Register only applies to Sections 683 and 684, and, the special notice is contained in section 685; your point is moot. Laws are very specific, Chump.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, since requirement to publish in the Federal Register only applies to Sections 683 and 684, and, the special notice is contained in section 685; your point is moot. Laws are very specific, Chump.:lmao the publication requirement in Section 685 specifically applies to messages sent under Sections 683 and 684

Can you even read?