Enemy of the people: Elon Musk

[SnakeBoy]

1894198047418323191

[Blake]

Lol at #nooneabovethelaw

Trump tards and their selective lawlessness

[Blake]

1894198047418323191

He left out the part of the picture where the other hand is giving a big bag of coin to Elon

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/FAANews/status/1894191384019525693

The FAA had been considering Starlink since the last administration, did you even read the article you linked?

If Starlink operates better, is cheaper, and makes air travel safer than Verizon's current system should the FAA use Starlink? yes or no.
Will Elon recuse himself from "auditing" the FAA?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol fucking morons

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https://x.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1894413656793715004

[ducks]

�� #BREAKING: New disclosure reveals that the Biden IRS leaked taxpayer information of over 405,000 Americans -- including President Trump's.

The IRS’s admission confirms the Committee’s suspicion and recent reports that show the scope of the leak was much broader than what the Biden Administration’s IRS initially led the public to believe.

In May 2024, an IRS spokesman stated that “[m]ore than 70,000” taxpayers were affected.

We found out that it's actually over 405,000 taxpayers!

This is a MASSIVE scandal.
Jim_Jordan
first launched his inquiry into these leaks last year.

https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1894408544004243946

[ducks]

Democrats are flailing over Musk & DOGE gaining access to IRS data.

But in 2023, Joe Biden gave 53 unpaid researchers & student volunteers access to the SAME SYSTEM & they said NOTHING.

Democrats have no problem with waste, fraud, & abuse as long as their ideology is promoted.

https://x.com/ByronDonalds/status/1894368816429166749

[CosmicCowboy]

https://x.com/FAANews/status/1894191384019525693

The FAA had been considering Starlink since the last administration, did you even read the article you linked?

If Starlink operates better, is cheaper, and makes air travel safer than Verizon's current system should the FAA use Starlink? yes or no.

Starlink is awesome. I have it at my house in Colorado and it's smoking fast. I got it by default since there were no other options. It is faster and more reliable than my hardwire Spectrum here.

[Winehole23]

Starlink is awesome. I have it at my house in Colorado and it's smoking fast. It is faster and more reliable than my hardwire Spectrum here.cool anecdote

[Winehole23]

I guess the personal convenience to you completely overcomes any conflict of interest for El0n

[CosmicCowboy]

I guess the personal convenience to you completely overcomes any conflict of interest for El0n

Your jealousy is obvious. He has been responsible for producing some amazing stuff.

[Blake]

:lol fucking morons

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https://x.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1894413656793715004

Need more veteran cuts

[ChumpDumper]

:lol CC found a way to like everything Trump and President Elon are doing.

The most predictable development yet.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol CC found a way to like everything Trump and President Elon are doing.

The most predictable development yet.

I dont like everything. The tariffs are stupid.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not saying Russia started the fucking war is stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

The math is good though. 8,000,000 = 8,000,000,000!

Elon sez!

[Blake]

Starlink is awesome. I have it at my house in Colorado and it's smoking fast. I got it by default since there were no other options. It is faster and more reliable than my hardwire Spectrum here.


cool anecdote


Your jealousy is obvious. He has been responsible for producing some amazing stuff.

Could the end result of this conversation have gone any other way

[Winehole23]

Your jealousy is obvious. He has been responsible for producing some amazing stuff.yes, but the obvious conflict of interest

[Winehole23]

The heavy campaign donor, cashing in directly with the USG based on his fortunate proximity to its operations

[CosmicCowboy]

The heavy donor, cashing in directly on his proximity to the purported problems

How stupid. Selling a few starlink setups won't even come close to making up for the hit he will inevitably take on Tesla as all the people that hate Trump and Musk quit buying Teslas.

[Winehole23]

(I'm cool with my home connectivity, fwiw. No reason to be jealous, except that I'm not in Colorado, I guess)

[Winehole23]

Lol CC trying to big time every thread

[Winehole23]

How stupid. Selling a few starlink setups won't even come close to making up for the hit he will inevitably take on Tesla as all the people that hate Trump and Musk quit buying Teslas.
Is the value nonzero?

[ChumpDumper]

How stupid. Selling a few starlink setups won't even come close to making up for the hit he will inevitably take on Tesla as all the people that hate Trump and Musk quit buying Teslas.

Is that the only conflict?

[CosmicCowboy]

Is the value nonzero?

Value will definitely be negative.

[CosmicCowboy]

Is that the only conflict?

What conflicts scare you?

[Winehole23]

Value will definitely be negative.You see El0n as a self-sacrificing public servant?

[Winehole23]

What conflicts scare you?the ability to kneecap the US agencies that regulate his companies, for one

replacing civil servants with AI is a reasonable cause for concern, I think

[Winehole23]

also, data retention

what data does El0n possess already?

is he required to protect it or eventually disgorge it?

[Winehole23]

I thought of three things off the top of my head, I'm sure there are other examples already

[Winehole23]

Does El0n just get to keep all the sensitive personal data?

[Blake]

You see El0n as a self-sacrificing public servant?

He's tEh riChesT gUy iN teH wOrld... sO yEs

[Winehole23]

Here's another one

El0n cancelling US contracts, US leases and US workers at will.

Hacking the US system of payment to cut off funds appropriated by law, by a putatively co-equal branch of government.

Do temporary advisors to the president usually wield such power?

[Winehole23]

(I see y'all lurking, cat got your tongues?)

[TSA]

False question. If Starlink works, great, use it. Get Elon out of doing audits though.

Did you even read the title of the article? It's pretty fucking simple.

Did I even read the title of the article :rollin

This is your problem when anything over four sentences is a “wall of text” you openly refuse to read. Your own article said the FAA under Biden was already considering Starlink. Shocker Biden’s FAA was already considering it since it is superior to Verizon in every single manner.

You really need to start reading past the title before you link articles. You did the same thing when you tried to whine about the $400 million Tesla military contract that you didn’t know the Biden admin awarded to Tesla. And the funniest fuck up was when you tried to compare Space X contracts for actual services/goods provided to the government to USAID awards given out by the government.

Next time try and read past four sentences before you submit your post so you don’t show your ass again.

[ChumpDumper]

What conflicts scare you?

Are you admitting there are conflicts?

[ChumpDumper]

Did I even read the title of the article :rollin

This is your problem when anything over four sentences is a “wall of text” you openly refuse to read. Your own article said the FAA under Biden was already considering Starlink. Shocker Biden’s FAA was already considering it since it is superior to Verizon in every single manner.

You really need to start reading past the title before you link articles. You did the same thing when you tried to whine about the $400 million Tesla military contract that you didn’t know the Biden admin awarded to Tesla. And the funniest fuck up was when you tried to compare Space X contracts for actual services/goods provided to the government to USAID awards given out by the government.

Next time try and read past four sentences before you submit your post so you don’t show your ass again.

Is Elon going to recuse himself from "auditing" the FAA and other departments with which he has contracts or ones that regulate his companies?

[Blake]

Did I even read the title of the article :rollin

This is your problem when anything over four sentences is a “wall of text” you openly refuse to read. Your own article said the FAA under Biden was already considering Starlink. Shocker Biden’s FAA was already considering it since it is superior to Verizon in every single manner.

You really need to start reading past the title before you link articles. You did the same thing when you tried to whine about the $400 million Tesla military contract that you didn’t know the Biden admin awarded to Tesla. And the funniest fuck up was when you tried to compare Space X contracts for actual services/goods provided to the government to USAID awards given out by the government.

Next time try and read past four sentences before you submit your post so you don’t show your ass again.

Wow you still don't understand how conflict of interest works. Lol you're really stupid.

[Blake]

Is Elon going to recuse himself from "auditing" the FAA and other departments with which he has contracts or ones that regulate his companies?

but Biden!

[Winehole23]

part of the dramatic tension here, is that El0n wields mighty discretion and is breathtakingly dumb at the same time

Trump also has this quality

[Winehole23]

Does El0n just get to keep all the sensitive personal data?is the sensitive data El0n has collected secure from US adversaries?

[Winehole23]

(I see y'all lurking, cat got your tongues?)all ghosted direct questions

[Winehole23]

is the sensitive data El0n has collected secure from US adversaries?if so, how do we know?

[Winehole23]

if so, how do we know?the beauty part is, if the USG knows that the DOGE hack compromised natsec, the USG is obliged to deny it

[Winehole23]

El0n Musk wants us to be more like El Salvador


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7prh6raya2ntwnpyzte5u5hc/bafkreicnngf2x3igjdesee7bk642ntws4tlnz5nmyoqc5ek2z iego7tmsy@jpeg

[Winehole23]

when a judicial ruling goes against you that you think is wrong, you appeal it

[Winehole23]

but no, El0n is teasing a judicial purge because they keep losing in court

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kjjhbsc3pp3vkqjsivk6z2yd/bafkreih63slwxoxqs4rsu5wuwfoqfcpfzyl5ilr4fbv34f46j gy4dtf6j4@jpeg

[Winehole23]

The new DOGE administrator, who the White House only named after media pressure, told associates she did not know she would be named publicly to the position. She’s currently scheduled to be on vacation in Mexico.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:t4x2ruk2qmob2b2cx55h4v7r/bafkreidgejdejmn7vsetulu7hi2jseefhi3xok5dr5zaoj2jh k4k5sxbuu@jpeg

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/us/politics/amy-gleason-doge-administrator.html

[Winehole23]

Reporter: When exactly did Amy Gleason start her job as DOGE administrator?

WH Press Secretary: “Amy Gleason has been the DOGE administrator for quite some time, I believe several weeks, maybe a month, I’m not actually sure of the specific timeline...”

[Winehole23]

they are just making shit up to lampoon legal compliance

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:rc5yae3p2hkymdlj7eptq7yd/bafkreicpkoxxwzavwvwcs5gc72poetapiiqkmajequh5lqrfq lid55r454@jpeghttps://www.wired.com/story/doge-elon-musk-leadership-administrator/

[Blake]

but no, El0n is teasing a judicial purge because they keep losing in court

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kjjhbsc3pp3vkqjsivk6z2yd/bafkreih63slwxoxqs4rsu5wuwfoqfcpfzyl5ilr4fbv34f46j gy4dtf6j4@jpeg

Like he saved free speech on Twitter

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:t4x2ruk2qmob2b2cx55h4v7r/bafkreifaojjhlqxvmtc2fvx6qdk5msgudq6lj3ofwva2yiw6q v3izdqg5a@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Over the years, Elon Musk and his businesses have received at least $38 billion in government contracts, loans, subsidies and tax credits, often at critical moments, a Post analysis has found, helping seed the growth that has made him the world’s richest person.

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:t4x2ruk2qmob2b2cx55h4v7r/bafkreifaojjhlqxvmtc2fvx6qdk5msgudq6lj3ofwva2yiw6q v3izdqg5a@jpeg

Ah, so that's who the scapegoat is.

I'm glad a month in after all these cuts they finally figured out who was in charge.

[Winehole23]

"waste, fraud and abuse" is the battle cry of crooked billionaires and trumpy simps who want to corrupt the government


For the record: the claims of waste and abuse (https://bsky.app/profile/nellminow.bsky.social/post/3lizapmjtic2g)have one purpose, privatization of government services, redirecting tax dollars to vastly more expensive and less effective corporations, the ones with monumental CEO pay and, yep, waste, fraud, and abuse.


A huge reason why privatizing government services is bad: you can't FOIA government contracts. It all becomes a black box once that money goes to the contractors, leading to waste fraud and abuse.

[Blake]

"waste, fraud and abuse" is the battle cry of crooked billionaires and trumpy simps who want to corrupt the government

Yeah but they're billionaires!! They don't need money they're doing this to help America!

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j5fbnzh57rn7xz65yjc36gxb/bafkreih35dy35czuixruthb4xnap6dcab37665pz2xwaaqygo xumlrplxm@jpeg

[TSA]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j5fbnzh57rn7xz65yjc36gxb/bafkreih35dy35czuixruthb4xnap6dcab37665pz2xwaaqygo xumlrplxm@jpeg

https://x.com/JoelSercel/status/1857815072137179233

Solid investment by the government considering SpaceX alone has saved the government more than given to all Musk companies through contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits combined. On top of that the government's investment in Tesla helped revolutionize the EV market and force the entire auto industry to make more sustainable vehicles.

Do you have a graph breaking down contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits?

[Winehole23]

go fuck yourself, TSA

[Blake]

https://x.com/JoelSercel/status/1857815072137179233

Solid investment by the government considering SpaceX alone has saved the government more than given to all Musk companies through contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits combined. On top of that the government's investment in Tesla helped revolutionize the EV market and force the entire auto industry to make more sustainable vehicles.

Do you have a graph breaking down contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits?

Rofl "a guy told me"

Gullible tool

[Trill Clinton]

This is fraud, right?


1894720726294249712

[Winehole23]

Musk: I should say we will make mistakes. We won't be perfect. But when we make a mistake we'll fix it quickly. So for example with USAID, one of the things we accidentally canceled briefly was Ebola prevention.

[Winehole23]

motion for a stay slapped down

Trumplandia will refuse to comply with judicial orders, and it'll be appealed

Trump's contempt for the law is monumental


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:353gzbhcjbznfxegvayffqek/bafkreih5pny2deh6ntxfr5qrgk7cpkkvr5l3abpzkwuztprm2 e4wx2huhu@jpeghttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277333/gov.uscourts.dcd.277333.39.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

PLEEZE JUDGE, WE NEED MORE TIME



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:353gzbhcjbznfxegvayffqek/bafkreidtngmzgttnv3y33cwxnt2a6v3ce6ivz6ggjorogcq3n rmhcr7txy@jpeg

[Blake]

This is fraud, right?


1894720726294249712

If true, yeah that's fraud.

But Trump can do whatever he wants thanks to the SC

[TSA]

Rofl "a guy told me"

Gullible toolJoel Sercel is the CEO of TransAstra you stupid fuck. His company actively works with United States Space Force and has multiple contracts with them. He has worked with NASA for 10 years and has contracts with them as well. The savings of SpaceX rockets compared to NASA's cost if they were to do it are well documented.

https://www.transastra.com/company/#History

You are such a stupid fucking idiot. Slapping you around is getting boring :lol

[Blake]

Joel Sercel is the CEO of TransAstra you stupid fuck. His company actively works with United States Space Force and has multiple contracts with them. He has worked with NASA for 10 years and has contracts with them as well. The savings of SpaceX rockets compared to NASA's cost if they were to do it are well documented.

https://www.transastra.com/company/#History

You are such a stupid fucking idiot. Slapping you around is getting boring :lol

Doesn't change "a guy told me" still being hilarious.

:lmao let us know when you figure out the legal definition of conflict of interest. Until then we'll all just keep tossing lols your way.

[Winehole23]

El0n Musk just attended Trump's cabinet meeting


A satellite company owned by Elon Musk (https://apnews.com/hub/elon-musk) has the inside track to potentially take over a large federal contract to modernize the nation’s air traffic communications system.


Equipment from Musk’s Starlink has been installed in Federal Aviation Administration (https://apnews.com/hub/federal-aviation-administration) facilities as a prelude to a takeover of a $2 billion contract held by Verizon, according to government employees, contractors and people familiar with the work.


Musk said that the network used by air traffic controllers is aging and requires drastic and quick action to modernize it.


“The Verizon system is not working and so is putting air travelers at serious risk,” Musk on Monday posted on X (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1894202642639061144), the social media site he has owned since 2022.


The emergence of Starlink as a potential replacement for the Verizon-led effort underscores the extraordinary conflicts of interest inherent in Musk’s position as both a senior White House adviser to President Donald Trump and a business mogul in charge of a sprawling array of companies. It is not clear what role Musk might be playing in helping Starlink parent company SpaceX (https://apnews.com/hub/spacex) win such business.


“There’s very limited transparency,” said Jessica Tillipman, a contracting law expert at George Washington University. Referring to Musk, she said: “Without that transparency, we have no idea how much non-public information he has access to or what role he’s playing in what contracts are being awarded.”
https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-starlink-spacex-faa-bbe9495978cac61b60c2971168e2921f

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/JoelSercel/status/1857815072137179233

Solid investment by the government considering SpaceX alone has saved the government more than given to all Musk companies through contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits combined. On top of that the government's investment in Tesla helped revolutionize the EV market and force the entire auto industry to make more sustainable vehicles.

Do you have a graph breaking down contracts/loans/subsidies/tax credits?

Is Elon going to "audit" the departments which regulate Elon's businesses and those for which Elon's companies have contracts?

[Winehole23]

Is Elon going to "audit" the departments which regulate Elon's businesses and those for which Elon's companies have contracts?hell, he's already firing the regulators

[TSA]

Doesn't change "a guy told me" still being hilarious.

:lmao let us know when you figure out the legal definition of conflict of interest. Until then we'll all just keep tossing lols your way.

Considering his qualifications, knowledge of space travel/exploration costs, and direct work/personal connections with USSF and NASA, what is hilarious about it?

[Blake]

Considering his qualifications, knowledge of space travel/exploration costs, and direct work/personal connections with USSF and NASA, what is hilarious about it?

He knew a guy!

Now ramble on some more in a manner that nobody cares about that his word should mean something.

[ChumpDumper]

Considering his qualifications, knowledge of space travel/exploration costs, and direct work/personal connections with USSF and NASA, what is hilarious about it?

Why can't he do simple math?

Or is he just lying about the alleged savings?

It's one or the other.

[TSA]

He knew a guy!

The savings of SpaceX sending rockets to space compared to the cost of NASA doing it are well documented.

https://medium.com/geekculture/spacex-vs-nasa-cost-4fae454823ac

Again, what is hilarious?

[TSA]

He knew a guy!

Now ramble on some more in a manner that nobody cares about that his word should mean something.

"Nelson, a longtime friend and former Senate colleague of President Joe Biden’s, was tapped to lead NASA last year and has been a booster of public-private space exploration, especially with SpaceX. Citing a Defense Department official, Nelson told a Senate panel in May that SpaceX might have saved taxpayers as much as $40 billion in launch costs."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/spacex-leader-reassured-nasa-chief-elson-musk-rcna61189

https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1521515044349124609

You done making yourself look stupid? :lol

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:36eqtmzysqf7wsslczw4uxcd/bafkreieh3ywfqoj2nubvgnhhqkzq7r4aw7dsyporgr3syc3tj lpfn5mw4y@jpeghttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788.01208714638.0.pdf

[Blake]

The savings of SpaceX sending rockets to space compared to the cost of NASA doing it are well documented.

https://medium.com/geekculture/spacex-vs-nasa-cost-4fae454823ac

Again, what is hilarious?

You still not getting what a conflict of interest is hilarious.

And sad tbh. Too many idiots out there like you that don't get it.

[Blake]

"Nelson, a longtime friend and former Senate colleague of President Joe Biden’s, was tapped to lead NASA last year and has been a booster of public-private space exploration, especially with SpaceX. Citing a Defense Department official, Nelson told a Senate panel in May that SpaceX might have saved taxpayers as much as $40 billion in launch costs."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/spacex-leader-reassured-nasa-chief-elson-musk-rcna61189

https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1521515044349124609

You done making yourself look stupid? :lol

He cited a guy!

[Blake]

Why can't he do simple math?

Or is he just lying about the alleged savings?

It's one or the other.

Lol he's ignoring this.

[TSA]

He cited a guy!

Would that guy know about the $40b savings?

I see you want to continue making yourself look stupid :lol

[TSA]

Lol he's ignoring this.

Of course I am, he's on timeout for repeatedly lying. On top of that it's an either/or fallacy.

[TSA]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788.01208714638.0.pdf

https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1894808867671842958

https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1894809832936612026

https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1894811463476486553

[Blake]

Of course I am, he's on timeout for repeatedly lying. On top of that it's an either/or fallacy.

If it's an either/or fallacy then what's another option besides those two?

[Blake]

Would that guy know about the $40b savings?

I see you want to continue making yourself look stupid :lol

Lol "$40b savings".

We'll have to just disagree on who looks stupid here.

[TSA]

If it's an either/or fallacy then what's another option besides those two?

Are you really this stupid?

[TSA]

Lol "$40b savings".

We'll have to just disagree on who looks stupid here.

That's coming from the top Pentagon space general and the head of NASA. It's obvious who looks stupid here.

[Blake]

Are you really this stupid?

So you don't know how the either/ or fallacy works either. You suck at this.

[Blake]

That's coming from the top Pentagon space general and the head of NASA. It's obvious who looks stupid here.

Because "he heard a guy" isn't good enough for anyone but fucking idiots.

And Musk is still a walking conflict of interest. Why do you think he's suddenly keeping his name off of DOGE receipts?

You'd think someone so into conspiracies like you wouldn't struggle so hard to piece this kid level puzzle together.

[TSA]

So you don't know how the either/ or fallacy works either. You suck at this.

You really can't think of any other options? You really are this stupid.

[TSA]

Because "he heard a guy" isn't good enough for anyone but fucking idiots.

And Musk is still a walking conflict of interest. Why do you think he's suddenly keeping his name off of DOGE receipts?

You'd think someone so into conspiracies like you wouldn't struggle so hard to piece this kid level puzzle together.

So the top Pentagon space general and the head of NASA are wrong? :lol You really are this stupid.

[TSA]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788/gov.uscourts.cadc.41788.01208714638.0.pdf

This case was "engineered" through judge-shopping to get to Judge Amir Ali, brand new to the District Court in DC. Without very little thought and even less care, he fashioned a "TRO" to restore billions of dollars in funding while he case is pending. The two sides have since sparred back and forth over whether the Trump Admin. is in compliance with the TRO given that the flow of money remained off -- which the Admin claims was permissible under the terms of his original TRO, whether he realized it or not at the time.

In going back to Judge Ali to claim non-compliance and seeking an order to enforce the TRO, the plaintiffs attached several declarations from entities that have contracts or grants with USAID for their operations. Here are some quotes from a couple of those declarations:

"Approximately 96 percent of Democracy International’s approximately $41.7 million in revenues in 2024 came from prime cooperative agreements and contracts from USAID and an additional approximately 2 percent came indirectly from USAID through subawards and subcontracts, for a total of approximately 98 percent directly or indirectly from USAID."

"Since the Court’s TRO was issued on February 13, 2025, HIAS has not received payments on its approximately $6.4 million in outstanding requests for reimbursement from the United States Government (U.S. Agency for International Development, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor). Since the stop work orders and directly due to the lack of funding by the U.S. government, HIAS has been forced to issue 344 notices of layoffs worldwide."

"DAI has not received any payments on its $115 million in outstanding invoices to USAID. Over $70 million of that amount is more than 30 days past due."

There is a mechanism by which entities doing business with the federal government can pursue remedies when they believe the Govt is in breach of its obligations -- running into federal court to get a TRO is not that remedy. All such suits generally go to the Court of Federal Claims.

The fact that your organization might go out of business while you await adjudication of your claims for payment from the Govt is not the fault of the Govt -- it is the fault of the person/entity that created a business model entirely dependent on the flow of money from the Govt.

I suspect the plaintiffs in the Global Health case -- and Judge Ali -- are about to learn that lesson.

https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1894809666141794333

[ChumpDumper]

Of course I am, he's on timeout for repeatedly lying. On top of that it's an either/or fallacy.

Then what is it?

Honest, really stupid mistakes?

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

So the top Pentagon space general and the head of NASA are wrong? :lol You really are this stupid.

Is Elon going to "audit" the Space force and NASA?

[Blake]

So the top Pentagon space general and the head of NASA are wrong? :lol You really are this stupid.

Since Musk and DOGE have been folding and taking back all their grand claims of billions saved, yeah, I doubt he's right.

BUT THIS ONE GUY TOLD HIM PROBABLY MAYBE BILLIONS SAVED

[Blake]

Is Elon going to "audit" the Space force and NASA?

Crickets every time

[Dod01]

Trump (It's not just Trump, he's ALSO simply granting the wishes of this extremist party), Musk, and the rest of the modern Republican party are clearly trying to take us into a far-right oligarchy and dictatorship.

Project 2025 is literally happening right before our eyes, just one month into the new administration, despite Trump denying it at every turn during his campaign. I don't know how any logical and level headed person could support heading towards said far-right dictatorship. If you support the far-right and their desire to take this country into that dictatorship, you're sick in the head and evil yourself.

The modern Democratic party (NO, not the Democratic party that right-wingers say were responsible for slavery, as those labels of old Democratic party and new Republican party switched DECADES ago) have a history since Reagan of having to cleanup the mess of Republican administrations, and this time it will be NO DIFFERENT.

That's IF, this current crazier than ever (since slavery/civil rights era) Republican party doesn't manage to accomplish exactly what they intend, and that's to successfully turn the country into the far-right dictatorship I've already mentioned, which means they will ATTEMPT to rig elections to either let Trump continue to run indefinitely or simply rig them in a way that only far-right candidates can win.

[Blake]

Trump (It's not just Trump, he's ALSO simply granting the wishes of this extremist party), Musk, and the rest of the modern Republican party are clearly trying to take us into a far-right oligarchy and dictatorship.

Project 2025 is literally happening right before our eyes, just one month into the new administration, despite Trump denying it at every turn during his campaign. I don't know how any logical and level headed person could support heading towards said far-right dictatorship. If you support the far-right and their desire to take this country into that dictatorship, you're sick in the head and evil yourself.

The modern Democratic party (NO, not the Democratic party that right-wingers say were responsible for slavery, as those labels of old Democratic party and new Republican party switched DECADES ago) have a history since Reagan of having to cleanup the mess of Republican administrations, and this time it will be NO DIFFERENT.

That's IF, this current crazier than ever (since slavery/civil rights era) Republican party doesn't manage to accomplish exactly what they intend, and that's to successfully turn the country into the far-right dictatorship I've already mentioned, which means they will ATTEMPT to rig elections to either let Trump continue to run indefinitely or simply rig them in a way that only far-right candidates can win.

Nuh uh. Muh fox News said libs are the devil.

[TSA]

Since Musk and DOGE have been folding and taking back all their grand claims of billions saved, yeah, I doubt he's right.

BUT THIS ONE GUY TOLD HIM PROBABLY MAYBE BILLIONS SAVED

The $40b in savings claim comes from the top Pentagon space general and head of NASA in 2022 serving under Biden before DOGE was even a thing you stupid fucking idiot :lmao

Just raise the white flag and stop embarrassing yourself you dimwit :lmao

[TSA]

Since Musk and DOGE have been folding and taking back all their grand claims of billions saved, yeah, I doubt he's right.

BUT THIS ONE GUY TOLD HIM PROBABLY MAYBE BILLIONS SAVED

I literally provided you video of the senate hearing where Biden’s longtime friend and appointed head of NASA under Biden said this and you’re retarded ass self still embarrasses yourself :lmao

[TSA]

You haven’t stopped embarrassing yourself since your polling fiasco embarrassment…just give up trying to argue shit you’re either too dumb or too lazy to research/read even when spoon fed the links.

[Blake]

The $40b in savings claim comes from the top Pentagon space general and head of NASA in 2022 serving under Biden before DOGE was even a thing you stupid fucking idiot :lmao

Just raise the white flag and stop embarrassing yourself you dimwit :lmao

Yeah he's not clear about how he arrived at the numbers and you're a gullible fool.

Either way, you're moving goalposts to avoid the topic. Again.

[Blake]

You haven’t stopped embarrassing yourself since your polling fiasco embarrassment…just give up trying to argue shit you’re either too dumb or too lazy to research/read even when spoon fed the links.

Lol angry. There's no polling fiasco other than what's in your head.

Trump is the president of the United States. Am I supposed to believe everything he says because of his position? Do you?

[Dod01]

Nuh uh. Muh fox News said libs are the devil.

Lol, silly us.

[Winehole23]

You can't reason with the pseudorational.The desired conclusion is always assumed.

[Winehole23]

Hence, DOGE posting wildly inaccurate quantifications of its own behavior, while lodging conclusory accusations of waste, fraud and abuse, gets accepted by Trumplandia as a bona fide forensic auditor

[TSA]

Yeah he's not clear about how he arrived at the numbers and you're a gullible fool.

Either way, you're moving goalposts to avoid the topic. Again.

The only one moving goalposts here is you and you’re so stupid you don’t even realize it so your only defense is to accuse me of doing it.

I brought up the $40b in savings SpaceX saved the gov when winehole posted his chart showing Elon has received $38b from the government. It was a stupid graph to begin with considering the bulk of it included contracts (gov receives a good/service at better price than producing themself) and loans (gov makes money on repayment).

You stupidly tried to argue the $40b in savings claiming it can’t be trusted because it was initially posted by an industry expert. Then you tried to argue the $40b in savings wasn’t legit because DOGE can’t be trusted. Then when your stupidity was shown, again, that the $40b in savings claim from the top Pentagon space force general and head of NASA appointed by Biden you finally realized how stupid you looked and countered with “well yeah but he’s not clear” :lmao

You’re a stupid fuck. Admit it.

[GAustex]

https://dailycaller.com/2025/02/25/stacey-abrams-nonprofit-head-steps-down/

[TSA]

Lol angry. There's no polling fiasco other than what's in your head.

Trump is the president of the United States. Am I supposed to believe everything he says because of his position? Do you?

Of course not. Only a fool would believe everything from anyone.

And lol at you claiming you haven’t been melting down and getting your shit pushed in by me since your lol Selzer poll fiasco. Proof is in the pudding and post history. You’ve been trying so hard to dig yourself out of that hole and have failed miserably.

[Winehole23]

go off now, u mad?

:lol

[hater]

That fat tittied south african cuck is a miserable toad

Why cant he wear a damn dress shirt at least?

This is a damn circus and the american people are the monkeys in the cage just waiting for the oeanuts to be thrown

Despicable

[Blake]

Of course not. Only a fool would believe everything from anyone.

Exactly. So why should I believe this guy just because of his position?


And lol at you claiming you haven’t been melting down and getting your shit pushed in by me since your lol Selzer poll fiasco. Proof is in the pudding and post history. You’ve been trying so hard to dig yourself out of that hole and have failed miserably.

Explain the fiasco again. I know Selzer was a very reliable poll until she wasn't. Is that it?

[DarrinS]

That fat tittied south african cuck is a miserable toad

Why cant he wear a damn dress shirt at least?

This is a damn circus and the american people are the monkeys in the cage just waiting for the oeanuts to be thrown

Despicable

Lol, wut?

[hater]

Lol, wut?

Exhibit A

:lol

[Winehole23]

buys a little time for Trumplandia, merits not touched


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[Winehole23]

so Roberts's court (https://bsky.app/profile/ryancraig.bsky.social/post/3lj4tyebuks22) grants Trump king-like powers and now he personally gets to work weeknights in his 70s to deal with the aftermath

[Winehole23]

cartoonishly corrupt



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:y24gcrfugd3wnhzvl7or5ft5/bafkreibnpp74ue6uabkthrofgxyrdwybwjfqt4wb26whmptwk u3lw3bkr4@jpeghttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/26/musk-starlink-doge-faa-verizon/

[Winehole23]

laws are just advisory for the president's temporary advisor, I guess

[Winehole23]

an obvious conflict of interest our previous political system, it appears to be SOP in the patrimonial one that has replaced it



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:z6rujpf4u56jfie7aqic2nfg/bafkreieglwslmuweshfooy4agmqhbkk2jpa3cn7l6guejxxtj 6m4hxocfu@jpeghttps://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-administration-special-government-employees-75b2b6e5

[Winehole23]

Nathan Tankus on the "Fort Knox audit" and probable mechanics of the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve

Tankus knows a lot about the US economic nuts and bolts DOGE has been using to illegally nullify congressionally approved spending and mass fire Americans


Which brings us back to the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. This legislation takes advantage of just how good gold sounds to the laymen (emphasis on “men”…) to propose funding the “Bitcoin Purchase Program” with Gold Certificates. Bitcoin acquired in the “Bitcoin Purchase Program” goes into the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve that will involve “cold storage” of bitcoin (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-09/bunkers-for-the-wealthy-are-said-to-hoard-10-billion-of-bitcoin?ref=crisesnotes.com). Yes really. The legislation actually goes further and has the Federal Reserve hand over its existing gold certificates and buy them back at a new “fair market value price”. The Federal Reserve would be ordered by the legislation, if signed into law, to simply send the Treasury the difference between the old price and the new price to the Treasury General Account (TGA) (see Monday’s piece (https://www.crisesnotes.com/how-can-we-know-if-government-payments-stop-an-exploratory-analysis-of-banking-system-warning-signs/)).

Here’s the relevant section of the “BITCOIN Act of 2024” whose purpose (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4912/text?ref=crisesnotes.com) is described as “To establish a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and other programs to ensure the transparent management of Bitcoin holdings of the Federal Government, to offset costs utilizing certain resources of the Federal Reserve System, and for other purposes.”:


(c) Federal reserve system gold certificates.—Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Federal reserve banks shall tender all outstanding gold certificates in their custody to the Secretary. Not later than 90 days after the tender of the last such certificate, the Secretary shall issue new gold certificates to the Federal reserve banks that reflect the fair market value price of the gold held against such certificates by the Treasury, as of the date specified by the Secretary on each new gold certificate. Upon issue by the Secretary, each Federal reserve bank that receives a new gold certificate shall remit the difference in cash value between the old and new gold certificates to the Secretary for deposit in the general fund within 90 days.

(d) Conforming amendment.—Section 5117(b) of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking “(for the purpose of issuing those certificates, of 42 and two-ninths dollars a fine troy ounce)”.



That last part is crucial too. Current legislation sets the price that the gold certificates can be issued at (and thus the current “official Federal Government price” of Gold). This is returning to the president’s ability to freely set the price of gold that Roosevelt was granted 90 years ago and which we discussed last Friday (https://www.crisesnotes.com/why-should-we-care-if-the-trump-administration-and-musks-doge-are-acting-unconstitutionally/). Let’s recap this mind bending house of mirrors: this legislation is aimed at resetting the government’s official gold price to “fair market value” so that they can sell 100s of billions of dollars of “gold certificates” they did not have the legal authority to issue before. The purpose of doing this is to take the supposed “proceeds” of writing in an accounting system that the Fed has “purchased” more gold certificates and deposit them into the Treasury’s bank account while scribbling (in COBOL) in another accounting system that the “Bitcoin Purchase program” can now buy billions of dollars worth of bitcoin. If you feel like you’re playing three card monte with a huckster who has you confused about which direction to look, that’s because you are.h​ttps://www.crisesnotes.com/a-scam-built-atop-an-accounting-gimmick-wrapped-in-bullshit-why-visiting-fort-knox-is-not-about-selling-gold-but-is-about-buying-bitcoin/

[Winehole23]

Amazingly, this legislation also dips into the Federal Reserve in yet more ways. It does so by reducing the Federal Reserve’s System’s official net worth (its “surplus funds”) and consequently claiming more for the Treasury, to be swept into the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve at the same time it puts a kind of “first lien” on the remittances the Federal Reserve System pays to the Treasury for the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. This “first lien” even applies over and above the Fed’s “deferred asset” (https://www.mercatus.org/macro-musings/nathan-tankus-public-finance-covid-19-crisis-consolidated-budget-balance-view-and-its?ref=crisesnotes.com) which is an accounting gimmick already used by the Federal Reserve to avoid negative income from impacting its official net worth

[Winehole23]

"fiscal QE"


That sounds complicated but what it is is mind-repelling in its simplicity. The Federal Reserve treats its obligation to pay the vast majority of its net income to the Treasury as a liability. So what the Federal Reserve says in its accounting rules is that a Federal Reserve Bank which has negative net income consequently sees its obligation to pay remittances go negative i.e. its a “negative liability”. In other words its obligation to pay net income to the treasury… becomes an asset. Under the Fed’s current approach, this “deferred asset” must be shrunk by net income flows before remittances resume. You can read about the Fed’s internal thinking about “deferred assets” in this 2013 memo declassified in 2020 (https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/FOMC20130311memo04.pdf). What the BITCOIN Act of 2024 is saying is “we don’t care about covering the Fed’s past losses, give us our cut first”.


This legislation is, in spades, what long-time Cato Institute scholar George Selgin (https://www.cato.org/books/menace-fiscal-qe?ref=crisesnotes.com) calls “The Menace of Fiscal QE”.

[Winehole23]

super radical, if it comes to pass


To me reading this legislation is like admiring the architecture of a beautiful building that is designed exactly how you’d want to design it if your goal was to collapse it upon its occupants at a precise date in the future. I have grudging respect for the handiwork that went into designing this scam legislationWhatever your thoughts about the merits of bitcoin (https://www.crisesnotes.com/bitcoin-is-not-a-bubble/), what is so striking about this proposal-- and its popularity among so many bitcoin supporters-- is that it fully turns the original motivation of Bitcoin on its head. The mysterious creator of bitcoin constantly inveighed against Bank- and State- money creation. For example in a forum post in 2009 (https://www.vox.com/money/378108/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-peter-todd-money-electric?ref=crisesnotes.com) “Satoshi Nakamoto” said “Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve”. Now the big thing in bitcoin is mobilizing the government’s power to create money to buy bitcoin and cash out its biggest holders. Bitcoin still promises you nothing but is now getting the same backing of public money that sustains the functioning of our payments system, and ultimately our monetary system.

[TSA]

This case was "engineered" through judge-shopping to get to Judge Amir Ali, brand new to the District Court in DC. Without very little thought and even less care, he fashioned a "TRO" to restore billions of dollars in funding while he case is pending. The two sides have since sparred back and forth over whether the Trump Admin. is in compliance with the TRO given that the flow of money remained off -- which the Admin claims was permissible under the terms of his original TRO, whether he realized it or not at the time.

In going back to Judge Ali to claim non-compliance and seeking an order to enforce the TRO, the plaintiffs attached several declarations from entities that have contracts or grants with USAID for their operations. Here are some quotes from a couple of those declarations:

"Approximately 96 percent of Democracy International’s approximately $41.7 million in revenues in 2024 came from prime cooperative agreements and contracts from USAID and an additional approximately 2 percent came indirectly from USAID through subawards and subcontracts, for a total of approximately 98 percent directly or indirectly from USAID."

"Since the Court’s TRO was issued on February 13, 2025, HIAS has not received payments on its approximately $6.4 million in outstanding requests for reimbursement from the United States Government (U.S. Agency for International Development, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor). Since the stop work orders and directly due to the lack of funding by the U.S. government, HIAS has been forced to issue 344 notices of layoffs worldwide."

"DAI has not received any payments on its $115 million in outstanding invoices to USAID. Over $70 million of that amount is more than 30 days past due."

There is a mechanism by which entities doing business with the federal government can pursue remedies when they believe the Govt is in breach of its obligations -- running into federal court to get a TRO is not that remedy. All such suits generally go to the Court of Federal Claims.

The fact that your organization might go out of business while you await adjudication of your claims for payment from the Govt is not the fault of the Govt -- it is the fault of the person/entity that created a business model entirely dependent on the flow of money from the Govt.

I suspect the plaintiffs in the Global Health case -- and Judge Ali -- are about to learn that lesson.

https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1894809666141794333

FAFO

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/02/27/chief-justice-enough-n3800239

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gvzkdtsyo6acyy6vfnr7kexq/bafkreidqtp4tvvdrarp3o7tkcqn6pncpjjkhhxf45dywlzw5v ny3dcu3ui@jpeg
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https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gvzkdtsyo6acyy6vfnr7kexq/bafkreifd6jyo22q23vb53a2de22af6ujd2p2wthktrs3pmkds xfrnnwlse@jpeghttps://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/musk-doge-and-the-ai-fueled-plot-to-fire-everybody.html

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gvzkdtsyo6acyy6vfnr7kexq/bafkreigdlwmnh4tca6v6df4u7spcnoppkbybapkfbzi2jawqs mn42yo5d4@jpeg

[Winehole23]

El0n may not be aware there are reasons the retirement age of air controllers at 56 years old is mandated by law


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:lzcbpquo423usgnfqyujjazu/bafkreicb6qfn27koqt3ne66pikgfnejajksr4qthgukncayd2 mkiqqbjwu@jpeg

[TSA]

This case was "engineered" through judge-shopping to get to Judge Amir Ali, brand new to the District Court in DC. Without very little thought and even less care, he fashioned a "TRO" to restore billions of dollars in funding while he case is pending. The two sides have since sparred back and forth over whether the Trump Admin. is in compliance with the TRO given that the flow of money remained off -- which the Admin claims was permissible under the terms of his original TRO, whether he realized it or not at the time.

In going back to Judge Ali to claim non-compliance and seeking an order to enforce the TRO, the plaintiffs attached several declarations from entities that have contracts or grants with USAID for their operations. Here are some quotes from a couple of those declarations:

"Approximately 96 percent of Democracy International’s approximately $41.7 million in revenues in 2024 came from prime cooperative agreements and contracts from USAID and an additional approximately 2 percent came indirectly from USAID through subawards and subcontracts, for a total of approximately 98 percent directly or indirectly from USAID."

"Since the Court’s TRO was issued on February 13, 2025, HIAS has not received payments on its approximately $6.4 million in outstanding requests for reimbursement from the United States Government (U.S. Agency for International Development, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor). Since the stop work orders and directly due to the lack of funding by the U.S. government, HIAS has been forced to issue 344 notices of layoffs worldwide."

"DAI has not received any payments on its $115 million in outstanding invoices to USAID. Over $70 million of that amount is more than 30 days past due."

There is a mechanism by which entities doing business with the federal government can pursue remedies when they believe the Govt is in breach of its obligations -- running into federal court to get a TRO is not that remedy. All such suits generally go to the Court of Federal Claims.

The fact that your organization might go out of business while you await adjudication of your claims for payment from the Govt is not the fault of the Govt -- it is the fault of the person/entity that created a business model entirely dependent on the flow of money from the Govt.

I suspect the plaintiffs in the Global Health case -- and Judge Ali -- are about to learn that lesson.

https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1894809666141794333

https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1894944145745064401

[Winehole23]

how is it doxxing to publish the names of people doing newsworthy work in the US government?



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[Blake]

El0n may not be aware there are reasons the retirement age of air controllers at 56 years old is mandated by law


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:lzcbpquo423usgnfqyujjazu/bafkreicb6qfn27koqt3ne66pikgfnejajksr4qthgukncayd2 mkiqqbjwu@jpeg

Jesus this fucking idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

El0n may not be aware there are reasons the retirement age of air controllers at 56 years old is mandated by law


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:lzcbpquo423usgnfqyujjazu/bafkreicb6qfn27koqt3ne66pikgfnejajksr4qthgukncayd2 mkiqqbjwu@jpeg

:lol fucking moron

[Winehole23]

how is it doxxing to publish the names of people doing newsworthy work in the US government?



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:xjmm5p4z25uzdieisuplduwz/bafkreiaf3z4443rpkcoinagznncsb2lsq6rjespsmrhq2d7yx [email protected] what they're doing is a stone-cold crime spree

[Thread]

...unless what they're doing is a stone-cold crime spree

Just people losing their jobs by the thousands.

And those were sweet ass jobs with great health-care, days off up the wazoo, perks up the same wazoo, on & on.

Gone. Poof!!!

[Winehole23]

yeah, i know, y'all thrill to human misery

why do you want other Americans to hurt?

are they your real enemy?

[Thread]

yeah, i know, y'all thrill to human misery

why do you want other Americans to hurt?

are they your real enemy?

You struck that mold, Winester. You just don't want to be on the suffering end of it.

[Winehole23]

You struck that mold, Winester. You just don't want to be on the suffering end of it.I'm sorry, there weren't progressive political purges of civil service, armed forces, federal police agencies and education under Biden and Obama

Nor top down censorship, nor legal animus against minorities

[SnakeBoy]

Lol, wut?

hater switched his schtick to anti all things Trump the minute he won. It's pretty funny tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

hater switched his schtick to anti all things Trump the minute he won. It's pretty funny tbh.

Elon isn't Trump but thanks for telling us you can't tell the difference.:tu

[Winehole23]

(((choos)))


On X, Musk amplified a post which falsely stated that Tamar, an employee of the nonprofit National Democratic Institute, was the CNN personality’s daughter.

The post took aim at the elder Eisen for being “the mastermind behind a slew of lawsuits” that seek to stifle the so-called Department of Government Efficiency’s gutting of USAID.

Tamar Eisen, the post alleged, “was strutting her stuff as a Program Officer for the NDI’s Gender, Women and Democracy team for almost three years.”

Musk wrote (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1895166657460330563) in response Thursday afternoon: “The Eisen crime family.”

Yet the two have no familial connection, a source familiar told the Daily Beast.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-makes-big-mistake-while-trying-to-smear-cnn-legal-analyst-norm-eisen/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

US Senators are encouraged to beg El0n to give congressionally approved funds back, or not to cut so many jobs


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x66qnnfwinx552tbbdpl7cay/bafkreigcopzpwzv2ei3ascpht6sfvfnv3m4inoqbsusafsmmf j5pycxryy@jpeg

[Blake]

US Senators are encouraged to beg El0n to give congressionally approved funds back, or not to cut so many jobs


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x66qnnfwinx552tbbdpl7cay/bafkreigcopzpwzv2ei3ascpht6sfvfnv3m4inoqbsusafsmmf j5pycxryy@jpeg

Clowns.

Is he in charge of DOGE or not?

[SnakeBoy]

Colorado woman, 40, 'caught trying to plant explosive devices' at Tesla dealership
Lucy Grace Nelson, 40, was arrested on Monday after police launched an "extensive investigation" on Jan. 29 following a series of vandalizations with incendiary devices at the Tesla Dealership in Loveland, Colorado
https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/164990/woman-plant-explosive-devices-tesla


https://cdn-images.the-express.com/img/dynamic/10/940x/secondary/337828.avif?r=1740708340300

[ChumpDumper]

Bad move. They catch fire on their own.

[Blake]

Oh thanks for posting the picture cause we were all wondering what he looked like

[TSA]

Oh thanks for posting the picture cause we were all wondering what he looked like

Stop misgendering her you insensitive piece of shit.

[Blake]

yeah I know why Snakes posted it, thanks

[Winehole23]

just treating the USG and all of the people working there like one of their scammy companies

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:t46sqvutibvsmjgwn6r6izve/bafkreigtme5owa76hthl522zmd7igwymxhzegm5ar2nj3swqr tv55ynodi@jpeg

[InRareForm]

Elon a clown

[velik_m]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ykCc588Zw

[Winehole23]

El0n and his lost boys made this decision for us


A Georgia nonprofit that produces emergency aid for starving children globally is one of the latest victims of the Trump administration’s spending cuts after it says contracts with the U.S. Agency for International Development (https://www.huffpost.com/topic/usaid) were abruptly canceled, reportedly because its work is “not in the national interest.”

Food producer Mana, which manufactures nutrient-dense peanut butter that’s specially formulated to treat severe acute malnutrition, said 35% of its orders, or $12 million, were slashed after years of work with USAID.

This means 300,000 children will lose access to its ready-to-use therapeutic food, or RUTF, which consists of milk, multivitamins and peanut butter, a representative with the company, based in Fitzgerald, told HuffPost Friday.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mana-food-aid-producer-loses-usaid-contracts_n_67c1fdb7e4b0c96eb9312299

[FrostKing]

El0n and his lost boys made this decision for us

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mana-food-aid-producer-loses-usaid-contracts_n_67c1fdb7e4b0c96eb9312299

https://i.ibb.co/5C64FcL/Screen-Shot-2025-02-07-at-2-10-28-PM.png

Nothing to Europe, N.America or Australia? Those days are over, we have our own people to take care of.

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/5C64FcL/Screen-Shot-2025-02-07-at-2-10-28-PM.png

Nothing to Europe, N.America or Australia? Those days are over, we have our own people to take care of.

Mexico is actually part of N America.

[ChumpDumper]

https://i.ibb.co/5C64FcL/Screen-Shot-2025-02-07-at-2-10-28-PM.png

Nothing to Europe, N.America or Australia? Those days are over, we have our own people to take care of.

But you won't.

[FrostKing]

But you won't.
No more Wars and no more soup kitchen. America First. Zelenskyy last :lol

[Blake]

No more Wars and no more soup kitchen. America First. Zelenskyy last :lol

Trump first. America last.

[ChumpDumper]

No more Wars and no more soup kitchen. America First. Zelenskyy last :lol

:lol thinking your Trump cares about Americans.

[Trill Clinton]

https://i.ibb.co/5C64FcL/Screen-Shot-2025-02-07-at-2-10-28-PM.png

Nothing to Europe, N.America or Australia? Those days are over, we have our own people to take care of.

Who is we? Aren't you an immigrant?

[Thread]

No more Wars and no more soup kitchen. America First. Zelenskyy last :lol

Bingo.

[Thread]

:lol thinking your Trump cares about Americans.

He does, that's why you hate him, Dumper.

[Thread]

But you won't.

We already are.

[z0sa]

As much as I think foreign aid is great, there's an argument here that if we really wanted to, we could switch the aid over to people like America's homeless.

Problem is, we won't. We'll cut it, it'll go into billionaires' pockets, conservatives will call it a great move while no one here actually benefits along with other poor countries getting screwed and spreading their diseases and refugees our way.

[ChumpDumper]

There is no reason to give up our soft power and cede the world to China, but most of us are stupid these days.

[Thread]

There is no reason to give up our soft power and cede the world to China, but most of us are stupid these days.

Well, either China is a friend, Dumper, or, an enemy. You can't have it both ways. Make up our fuckin' minds. If they're the enemy treat them as such, boot their asses out of the country, out of industry, out of land ownership, business ownership. Give them their money back at the going rate and kick their asses out. No trade. Nothing. And let that be the end of it.

[Winehole23]

As much as I think foreign aid is great, there's an argument here that if we really wanted to, we could switch the aid over to people like America's homeless.

Problem is, we won't. We'll cut it, it'll go into billionaires' pockets, conservatives will call it a great move while no one here actually benefits along with other poor countries getting screwed and spreading their diseases and refugees our way.let's not sugar coat it, the way we're doing this will kill a lot of Africans and Asians, and that's a selling point

[Thread]

let's not sugar coat it, the way we're doing this will kill a lot of Africans and Asians, and that's a selling point

Let them get their aid from their continent. They got money to give 'em. Give it to 'em.

[Winehole23]

so like, who will want to be our friends when we do shit like this to our friends?

[sickdsm]

LOL whataboutism when your boy is doing nazi salutes and getting ready to gut Social Security after claiming half of it is fraud. Pretty sure I hate Pelosi more than you do anyways since she fucked over a great House candidate in my district to barely push corrupt ass Henry Cuellar over the finish line in the 2022 primaries. Don't call me a lib either, fuck liberals.

I swear.I think of the resident vags here whenever I hear three gym heros song.

Hailing from rock bottom, Loserville, nothing town

Low IQ idiots believe Michelle Obama is a dude and Elon is a racist. Just opposite sides of the aisle.


4 years of Biden radicalized me. I'm done giving a shit.

[sickdsm]

See my other post about social security. Imagine trying to justify all the shitty federal payments.

[baseline bum]

I swear.I think of the resident vags here whenever I hear three gym heros song.

Hailing from rock bottom, Loserville, nothing town

Low IQ idiots believe Michelle Obama is a dude and Elon is a racist. Just opposite sides of the aisle.


4 years of Biden radicalized me. I'm done giving a shit.

LOL with the false equivalences, it's all you right wing motherfuckers ever have. Such a leap of faith to think a guy who does nazi salutes is a racist. I'm not trying to justify the shitty federal payments like Trump blowing $200 million to air commercials thanking him for the border, that's you guys. I want the useful parts of the government to not get the axe. Do you work? I know you're old. How can you not be pissed about a system you have been paying into for decades possibly being eliminated? How did Biden radicalize you to not give a shit about that?

[Blake]

so like, who will want to be our friends when we do shit like this to our friends?

WHO CARES AMERICA 1ST

[Blake]

I swear.I think of the resident vags here whenever I hear three gym heros song.

Hailing from rock bottom, Loserville, nothing town

Low IQ idiots believe Michelle Obama is a dude and Elon is a racist. Just opposite sides of the aisle.


4 years of Biden radicalized me. I'm done giving a shit.

Oh look another 'both sides' guy

[Thread]

so like, who will want to be our friends when we do shit like this to our friends?

Do what? We stood by them for over 3 years and $350 billion. That country is full of Nazi's. We're providing full heath care for the last 3 years to that country.

Biden got in there to feed our MIC.

And nobody is stopping them from continuing to fight. Europe will come to the fore if they believe it is righteous to continue to fight alongside Ukr. If they don't believe in it the war will end.

But, we're done in there.

[SnakeBoy]

so like, who will want to be our friends when we do shit like this to our friends?

No one...hopefully

[ChumpDumper]

4 years of Biden radicalized me.How?

A lil inflation made you full Nazi?:lol

[Thread]

How?

A lil inflation made you full Nazi?:lol


+ over a 3/4 of million Americans dead in the ground from the COVID after Joe swore on the Good Book..."I'll shut it down."

[sickdsm]

Oh look another 'both sides' guy
Used to be. I voted for Obama and had my social security decison back when W was president.

[sickdsm]

How?

A lil inflation made you full Nazi?:lol

I'm sorry but only the poor have been too dumb to hedge against inflation. Fucking idiots like you didn't realize the cost of money has been cheaper than inflation for at least 25 years?

[sickdsm]

LOL with the false equivalences, it's all you right wing motherfuckers ever have. Such a leap of faith to think a guy who does nazi salutes is a racist. I'm not trying to justify the shitty federal payments like Trump blowing $200 million to air commercials thanking him for the border, that's you guys. I want the useful parts of the government to not get the axe. Do you work? I know you're old. How can you not be pissed about a system you have been paying into for decades possibly being eliminated? How did Biden radicalize you to not give a shit about that?
45. A few years older than the average. Old enough to not live in a fairy tale of liberal dreams. I'm going to hope your just young and dumb to think the government can invest your money better than you can. Then again all you idiots are getting furious over the government taking away ridiculous USAID and other foreign aid to Ukraine so maybe you are pretty stupid with your money.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sorry but only the poor have been too dumb to hedge against inflation. Fucking idiots like you didn't realize the cost of money has been cheaper than inflation for at least 25 years?You seem angry drunk right now.

So what about Biden radicalized you?

Must've been terribly traumatic for a sensitive fella such as yourself.

[sickdsm]

[QUOTE=ChumpDumper;11214153]You seem angry drunk right now.

So what about Biden radicalized you?

Must've been terribly traumatic for a sensitive fella such as yourself.[/QUOTE
I would literally wake up on a lazy Sunday mid afternoon and whisper in your ear the way I would destroy everything about the liberal party and you, then proceed to grab a cake batter blizzard at DQ with zero afterthoughts. Self made people are typically conservative. Self made people are not sensitive or traumatic.

[ChumpDumper]

I would literally wake up on a lazy Sunday mid afternoon and whisper in your ear the way I would destroy everything about the liberal party and you, then proceed to grab a cake batter blizzard at DQ with zero afterthoughts. Self made people are typically conservative. Self made people are not sensitive or traumatic.
So you were lying about being radicalized?

What are you saying?

[baseline bum]

45. A few years older than the average. Old enough to not live in a fairy tale of liberal dreams. I'm going to hope your just young and dumb to think the government can invest your money better than you can. Then again all you idiots are getting furious over the government taking away ridiculous USAID and other foreign aid to Ukraine so maybe you are pretty stupid with your money.

Dipshit who thinks Musk selflessly cares about the debt instead of locking in tax cuts to make himself even richer wants to talk about fairy tales and dreams.

[baseline bum]

I'm sorry but only the poor have been too dumb to hedge against inflation. Fucking idiots like you didn't realize the cost of money has been cheaper than inflation for at least 25 years?

Fucking idiots like you think the poor can get cheap credit to hedge against inflation.

[FrostKing]

How?

A lil inflation made you full Nazi?:lol
:lol your precious Ukranians joined him and sawed off children's heads. Turn off Netflix princess.

[FrostKing]

Volhynia

> "Ukrainian peasants carrying knives, pitchforks, scythes and machetes [...] destroy neighbouring Polish villages [. ...] dismembering pregnant women [...] chopping up babies, burning families alive, crucifying priest on church doors."

[Winehole23]

Trump 2.0 is selling out America


The USDA also invests heavily in preventing diseases among plants and animals essential to the food supply.


But the department fired employees working to address the bird flu that’s contributing to skyrocketing egg prices, according to NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716). The USDA said it was trying to rehire them.


Matthew Moscou worked at a lab in Minnesota, where he helped monitor diseases that could wipe out wheat production in the U.S., he said. He spent the past two-and-a-half years learning from a long-tenured employee so institutional knowledge could be passed on, but it’s unlikely that information is retained now, he said.


“They’ve destroyed the institution,” he said.


Without labs like this, crop diseases, such as wheat-killing stem rust, could flourish, he said.


“Either we’re going to have to rethink how we’re doing this whole thing, or we’re going to have a significant collapse in the long run,” Moscou said. “This current push has really cut us off at the knees.”
https://investigatemidwest.org/2025/02/25/mass-terminations-have-cut-usda-off-at-the-knees-ex-employees-say/

[Winehole23]

Nerd Reich


The American elite are in almost universal agreement that their US requires a powerful economy, technological supremacy, and a strong military. Any debate is largely over whether the government should do anything more than shovel money to self-declared geniuses in Silicon Valley and then get out of the way. One can see why the likes of Horowitz and Andreessen view this style of war capitalism as the key to American supremacy. As Malcolm Harris wrote in Palo Alto:



War Capitalism could put on a blindfold and run into a maze of horrific, absurd plans with confidence because it had class power echolocation for a guide: As long as the rich strengthened and the working class weakened, then things had to be going in the right direction. It didn’t matter that capitalists were investing in finance sugar highs, monopoly superprofits, and an international manufacturing race to the bottom rather than strong jobs and an expanded industrial base. The twenty-first century was going to be all about software anyway, baby. The robots will figure it out. Silicon Valley leaders sat on top of this world system like a cherry on a sundae, insulated from the melting foundation by a rich tower of cream.


It’s all so stupid, it would be funny if it weren’t going to be devastating for so many. Here’s just a brief summary, courtesy of Blood in the Machine (https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/whats-really-behind-elon-musk-and?), of America First’s embrace of Silicon Valley simply becoming the government:



But, stupid or not, it’s a powerful fiction. It joins the echelon of other AI projects helmed by Musk and his cohort, like the “AI-first strategy” DOGE is implementing (https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-lieutenant-gsa-ai-agency/), the government chatbots they’re building (https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/18/elon-musk-staffer-created-a-doge-ai-assistant-for-making-government-less-dumb/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANAkeAE8Svg9__EVgwtZBbiRTSth 38pVpQasizBurTu_72UESTPNpQOhN-WM1oO6Mnv6CNLeJZqB2XnxyzoPa9BkqeBLk0QcC4YzoZobRiCg 3rta_EJxP_jnQg7FlC6LoGkQzRMFHAq9CgUbiaD4jp0o_8w6fB VnwvvjCBQEktc8), and the systems designed to automatically remove pronouns and DEI verbiage from government websites. The very idea that DOGE’s AI can streamline and automate the government is already being used to justify the hollowing out and the reshaping of the federal workforce. Leaning into the reputation of generative AI, which has been touted as the so-powerful-it’s-terrifying future (https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-03-31/column-afraid-of-ai-the-startups-selling-it-want-you-to-be) by Silicon Valley and the media, and into his meme-agency’s mission of locating efficiencies, Musk has sold his operation as the future, and he has done so emphatically enough that GOP is more than happy to run with the charade.


So we’re moving towards (https://www.404media.co/things-are-going-to-get-intense-how-a-musk-ally-plans-to-push-ai-on-the-government/) the automation of government on crappy hallucinatory AI, “AI coding agents” writing government software for different agencies and being trained in part on existing government contracts. Ai huckster termites are eating away at everything like the DOGE staffers at HUD who are from (https://archive.is/2025.02.27-014046/https://www.wired.com/story/doge-hud-systems-access-ai-proptech-real-estate-mobile-home/#selection-613.0-613.52) an AI real estate firm.
The goal appears to be a US version of the neoliberal shock the US directed at Russia in the 1990s, which led to a collapse of real wages and life expectancy worse than the US Great Depression.
The US capitalist system and those who run it are making great use of Trump. A large chunk of the population worships him and believe he’s leading a rethink in US foreign policy and rooting out waste in government. The other half thinks he’s a moron controlled by Moscow. Silicon Valley is laughing all the way to the crypto bank.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/03/the-empire-rebrands.html

[Winehole23]

nothing about this is ordinary


FAA Officials Ordered Staff to Find Funding for Elon Musk’s Starlink
The Federal Aviation Administration directed staff to locate tens of millions of dollars for a Starlink deal, sources tell Rolling Stone

[Winehole23]

No one...hopefullythe US should have no friends?

[baseline bum]

I would literally wake up on a lazy Sunday mid afternoon and whisper in your ear the way I would destroy everything about the liberal party and you, then proceed to grab a cake batter blizzard at DQ with zero afterthoughts. Self made people are typically conservative. Self made people are not sensitive or traumatic.

Also LOL self made. Weren't you and your parents on welfare when you were a kid? I remember the way you used to brag about how much you liked government cheese. So your parents are also dummies by your logic since they were poor? LOL being fed by the state but then wanting to kick the ladder out after you climbed it. Such a sociopath.

[Trill Clinton]

Spineless

1895941229759828406

1895984735148740845

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qcdkgsv4ancml4yt5bde7fwi/bafkreidwhx3yix6q4aq723hi6bjnxahaqwtghiymlqzrsmive w5bgik5qe@jpeghttps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/elon-musk-starlink-faa-officials-find-funding-1235285246/

[Winehole23]

(hint, US agencies spending appropriated funds other than via contracting officers and general grant officers is a crime -- and the officers are personally responsible for any improperly spent funds)

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1896026564019830820

[ChumpDumper]

Volhynia

> "Ukrainian peasants carrying knives, pitchforks, scythes and machetes [...] destroy neighbouring Polish villages [. ...] dismembering pregnant women [...] chopping up babies, burning families alive, crucifying priest on church doors."

So you've been anti Ukraine all along?

Makes sense.

[sickdsm]

Also LOL self made. Weren't you and your parents on welfare when you were a kid? I remember the way you used to brag about how much you liked government cheese. So your parents are also dummies by your logic since they were poor? LOL being fed by the state but then wanting to kick the ladder out after you climbed it. Such a sociopath.
Bought the govt cheese. $20 would get you a trunkload of groceries.

[ChumpDumper]

Subsidized by the government.

[sickdsm]

Subsidized by the government.

Just like the Internet, roads, and literally everything else. The irony is this political shit storm was set off by cutting waste to foreign countries and other absurd entities while the hope is focusing on basic needs for US citizens. Why do you want to ignore California fire victims in order to continue to funnel money overseas?

[Blake]

Just like the Internet, roads, and literally everything else. The irony is this political shit storm was set off by cutting waste to foreign countries and other absurd entities while the hope is focusing on basic needs for US citizens. Why do you want to ignore California fire victims in order to continue to funnel money overseas?

False dilemma. There's funding for both.

But hey, since we're cutting cancer research, do we really need all those Space X contracts?

[sickdsm]

False dilemma. There's funding for both.

But hey, since we're cutting cancer research, do we really need all those Space X contracts?

You're right. Going back to NASA or Boeing should work well.

[baseline bum]

Just like the Internet, roads, and literally everything else. The irony is this political shit storm was set off by cutting waste to foreign countries and other absurd entities while the hope is focusing on basic needs for US citizens. Why do you want to ignore California fire victims in order to continue to funnel money overseas?

Focusing on the needs to cut Social Security for US citizens?

[baseline bum]

Bought the govt cheese. $20 would get you a trunkload of groceries.

So you were lying before. Or maybe you're lying now.

[florige]

Also LOL self made. Weren't you and your parents on welfare when you were a kid? I remember the way you used to brag about how much you liked government cheese. So your parents are also dummies by your logic since they were poor? LOL being fed by the state but then wanting to kick the ladder out after you climbed it. Such a sociopath.

This dispatcher I used to work with was just like that. She would cry and complain about how the democrats here in MD were taking her money going towards all these “state run help programs” that she shouldn’t have to pay into. But literally was on the phone the next week trying to get state benefits for her son . I’ve come to realize as far as the right goes entitlement programs are A-ok as long as it benefits them. But for anyone else it “muh tax dollars “

[ChumpDumper]

Just like the Internet, roads, and literally everything else. The irony is this political shit storm was set off by cutting waste to foreign countries and other absurd entities while the hope is focusing on basic needs for US citizens. Why do you want to ignore California fire victims in order to continue to funnel money overseas?Who says they're being ignored?

You're pretty stupid to think it's all a zero sum game.

You would never want to focus on the basic needs for US citizens (unless it's you) so why even bring it up?

BTW thanks for shitting on your own self-made man nonsense.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

You're right. Going back to NASA or Boeing should work well.We don't need to go back to the moon or Mars at all.

It will work very well.

[SnakeBoy]

the US should have no friends?

Correct

US is a country not a person.

[velik_m]

Imagine seeing North Korea and going "i wish our country was like theirs".

[baseline bum]

Who says they're being ignored?

You're pretty stupid to think it's all a zero sum game.

You would never want to focus on the basic needs for US citizens (unless it's you) so why even bring it up?

BTW thanks for shitting on your own self-made man nonsense.:tu

LOL always love this argument.

Alice: Fuck foreigners, we need to use that wasted money to take care of Americans instead.
Bob: OK so let's do things to make Americans lives better.
Alice: No fuck them too.

[Blake]

This dispatcher I used to work with was just like that. She would cry and complain about how the democrats here in MD were taking her money going towards all these “state run help programs” that she shouldn’t have to pay into. But literally was on the phone the next week trying to get state benefits for her son . I’ve come to realize as far as the right goes entitlement programs are A-ok as long as it benefits them. But for anyone else it “muh tax dollars “

The indoctrination of Americans that democrats are evil.

[Blake]

LOL always love this argument.

Alice: Fuck foreigners, we need to use that wasted money to take care of Americans instead.
Bob: OK so let's do things to make Americans lives better.
Alice: No fuck them too.

Muh MilTary aNd muH boRdeR

[Thread]

Correct

US is a country not a person.https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTghbE9CCVPJ7Wi8ztK_M0tuNbF6CIxE ExbtXYKGUEzaFbBt6yTYQf4DQrEWA&s

[Winehole23]

Correct

US is a country not a person.No allies, then

[Thread]

No allies, then

Norway just disavowed us.

[SnakeBoy]

1896279104535904726

[SnakeBoy]

No allies, then

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?

It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.

[ChumpDumper]

G-Dubs would shoot you himself, snacks.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol we're only the USA because France decided to be our friend.

[DarrinS]

Another celeb "owns" Elon

1896201326008107272

[ChumpDumper]

Another celeb "owns" Elon

1896201326008107272Decent write-off although they depreciate horribly.

How are Elon's new car sales going lately?

[DarrinS]

Decent write-off although they depreciate horribly.

How are Elon's new car sales going lately?

Up 3.91%

[ChumpDumper]

Up 3.91%

So flat YoY?

:tu

[Blake]

Another celeb "owns" Elon

1896201326008107272

Where do you get these tweets from?

[Blake]

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?

It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.

Great, explain Trump's passionate attachment to Israel.

[Thread]

Up 3.91%

tee, hee.

[Thread]

Great, explain Trump's passionate attachment to Israel.

Amen.

[Winehole23]

walking back the CFPB closure

Trumplandia is not confident of winning in court, so they're emending the lies they previously told the court about closing it



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nztbvvo2gl4227zuxjf7gog3/bafkreigjorosmo3r2etemfxu4quu4bwj7qkis73wbfhhzd4cg qtak5rfla@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nztbvvo2gl4227zuxjf7gog3/bafkreiaxpglf3raxhtaboj5m3sto2mggof7brebne3pj4vial kjsikjpea@jpeghttps://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nztbvvo2gl4227zuxjf7gog3/bafkreihblnbo5tk6qxef5ad6l3x4n2fuv7fpbnprhej4zbgm4 flslcx5le@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nztbvvo2gl4227zuxjf7gog3/bafkreiefzgznrm5l42u5nlbynzgahgvuzwerzczw2nvyzdfvl udnbpkxha@jpeg

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287.48.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

CFPB's leadership has offered *no other defense* in this case but Martinez's declarations, which they just admitted were false (https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3ljgyyrp3552f).
They're restarting agency functions and claiming they never stopped, falsely.


Matthew Pfaff, chief of staff for the Office of Consumer Response, responded to the claim that the complaint database is up & running:"None of the activities listed in my original declaration, including responding to escalated issues via the Escalated Case Management Team, are currently happening"https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287.48.2.pdf

[Winehole23]

real world consequences of chainsawing USAID


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:dh3cehpljruyrsnj3kmvda33/bafkreig2cuhuivt2tn2guf5j7mn6mfjubdhtnkp4bcodzumv4 sgbb7wzwu@jpeghttps://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-a-weekend-for-putin

[Winehole23]

The acting assistant administrator described a geopolitical and economic catastrophe entirely of our own making. In the unfinished memo, he notes that “preventable diseases” would surge, and that the “consequences will extend beyond borders, increasing the risk of infections reaching the U.S.” He noted that the 2014–16 Ebola outbreak cost the U.S. approximately $4.3 billion. He highlighted a February 25, 2025 Center for Global Development study (https://www.cgdev.org/blog/tuberculosis-doesnt-respect-borders-us-aid-cuts-could-fuel-global-health-crisis) noting that “If TB and multidrug-resistant TB in the US reach current global average rates, the cost of treating TB cases in the US would increase to over $11 billion annually.”

[velik_m]

The A.I. Monarchy

...
The Italian futurists, most of them literary figures, despised women, fought against moralism, and wanted museums and libraries to be destroyed because they sheltered the past.

They glorified technology, patriotism, and war – which they described as “the only true hygiene of the world”.

It’s no surprise that the style of these texts later became a source of inspiration for Mussolini’s fascism.

But what I propose we take from the passage above is this idea: the desire to move at great speed into the future, to hasten things, to swallow up time, to eliminate everything that may seem hesitant, meditative, doubtful—everything that hinders or delays the possible domination of humanity over the external world.

We focus on this idea to understand what has been happening since Donald Trump became President of the United States again.

Almost all signs point to this trend: the new American politics appears to be radically different from what we expect or from what we know from the last 80 years of history.

The new American politics seems more and more inspired by the ideas of some people who, on the one hand, no longer believe in democracy, and, on the other hand, no longer have the patience to live in this global present.

The new American politics no longer glorifies speed, as in the dreams of the early 20th-century Futurists, but directly chooses acceleration: pressing the pedal of technology to achieve as quickly as possible a future imagined as the crown of efficiency.

...



https://substack.com/home/post/p-156886169

[Winehole23]

Liz Dye is great on the legal beat



On Friday, another federal judge called out the Trump administration for breaking the law in its desperate quest to burn down the federal government. After all but accusing Acting Director of the Office of Personnel Management Charles Ezell of lying to the court, Judge William Alsup held that OPM’s “efforts to direct the termination of employees” at six federal agencies is “illegal, invalid and must be stopped and rescinded.”

The court ordered the Trump administration to reinstate recently fired employees at the National Park Service, Bureau of Land Management, Veterans Administration, Department of Defense, Small Business Administration, and Fish and Wildlife Service.

It’s unclear whether the government has taken steps to comply.

Third Verse, Same as the First

The government’s conduct here followed a now-familiar playbook.



Issue a facially illegal order;
Retract or disavow that order;
Get sued;
Carry out the original order anyway;
Insist that the executive branch agencies acted independently, based on totally legal criteria, and it’s pure coincidence that their conduct mirrors the illegal order down to the letter;
Hope that by the time the court catches up, the damage will already be done.

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-orders-trump-admin-to-quit

[TSA]

Trump 2.0 is selling out America

https://investigatemidwest.org/2025/02/25/mass-terminations-have-cut-usda-off-at-the-knees-ex-employees-say/

House Committee on Agriculture “@SecRollins

plan to fix egg prices after Biden failed to respond to the outbreaks: - $500M for farm biosecurity - $400M for farmer relief $100M for R&D - Cutting red tape & costly regulations - Importing safe eggs to lower prices.”

House Committee on Agriculture
“Under @SecRollins, @USDA is wasting no time to tackle the avian flu and get egg prices under control.”

Senate Ag Committee Republicans

“Chairman johnBoozman applauds @SecRollins for prioritizing a strategy to combat avian influenza.”

Texas Department of Agriculture

“Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller applauds United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Secretary Brooke Rollins for her decisive action in addressing the ongoing avian influenza outbreak. Her five-prong plan makes it clear that tackling this crisis is the USDA’s number one priority—something that was sorely lacking under the Biden Administration. For too long, Washington has ignored the impact of this outbreak on farmers, ranchers, and consumers. The Biden Administration allowed egg prices to skyrocket while doing little to curb the spread of the virus. Rather than finding and investing in better solutions for limiting the spread and treating the virus, we’ve been forced to cull over 166 million birds. That’s not a strategy—it’s a failure of leadership, one that our poultry producers and consumers are paying for. Secretary Rollins is taking action by sharpening biosecurity measures, developing vaccines tailored to this evolving strain, and applying critical funding to research to prepare better and protect our agricultural industry. This is the type of leadership we need—bold, proactive, and focused on results. I stand ready to work alongside Secretary Rollins and her team to ensure Texas farmers and ranchers have the tools to fight this disease, protect their livestock, and keep food prices stable for American families.”

Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Services

“Iowa's poultry farmers have been hit hard by H5N1 HPAI. I am grateful to Secretary Rollins and USDA for making this issue a top priority. Secretary Rollins and her team at USDA have introduced a broad, five-pronged plan to better support poultry producers and tackle rising egg prices for families. Enhanced biosecurity is the best way to protect our flocks from any virus. Secretary Rollins has pledged $500 million to support on-farm biosecurity assessments and cost-share funding, which will help farmers make necessary infrastructure improvements. The plan also commits $400 million to update indemnity tables, something I called on USDA to do last year, to ensure farmers are receiving fair market rates for impacted birds. I am supportive of exploring an effective H5N1 HPAI vaccination strategy. I encourage USDA to work closely with state animal health officials, farmers and industry to formulate an implementation strategy, incorporate valuable lessons learned, and minimize potential negative trade impacts. Our team at the Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship appreciates the strong partnership we have with USDA. We look forward to working together to create a modern and effective H5N1 HPAI response strategy.”

National Association of State Departments of Agriculture

“U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins’ remarks made to NASDA members this morning announced that these steps are already underway, and NASDA stands ready to collaborate with USDA and federal agencies to ensure the United States’ collective response to HPAI is coordinated, efficient and effective at all levels.”

American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall

“We appreciate USDA’s blueprint for tackling avian influenza America’s farmers are committed to ensuring a safe and abundant food supply, and these investments to advance biosecurity and research will further equip them to combat the threat of HPAI.”

American Farm Bureau Federation

“America’s farmers are committed to ensuring a safe and abundant food supply, and they take the threat of Highly Pathological Avian Influenza (HPAI) seriously,” said AFBF economist Bernt Nelson. “Strict biosecurity measures on the farm and the depopulation of infected birds are evidence of the extreme lengths’ farmers go to protect the health of the national flock and the American public. Farm Bureau supports research to develop a safe, effective, and practical vaccine for HPAI in birds. In the meantime, containing the spread of the virus is a priority.”

Texas Farm Bureau

“Texas Farm Bureau (TFB) thanks President Donald Trump and U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins for working on a comprehensive strategy to combat the avian flu outbreak and providing common sense solutions to stabilize egg prices. We also thank Secretary Rollins for taking time to recently meet with TFB county leaders and other agricultural organizations in East Texas to hear firsthand about the issues facing the poultry sector. TFB looks forward to our continued work with the administration to create more opportunities for Texas farmers, ranchers and consumers.”

National Milk Producers Federation

“Dairy farmers and cooperatives appreciate USDA’s leadership in supporting American agriculture and safeguarding animal health as it deals with what soon will be a second year of H5N1 bird flu disruptions in dairy cattle. Dairy farmers and all of agriculture takes biosecurity seriously, and we thank USDA and the Trump Administration for actions that will further those efforts. “We support the department’s initiatives to advance vaccine development and deployment that will help control, and ultimately eliminate, the virus in dairy cattle. And we also want to remind consumers that, even as dairy farmers are working with veterinarians and officials at all levels of government to eliminate this animal health threat, milk for consumers remains safe to drink because of the effectiveness of pasteurization.”

International Dairy Foods Association

“The International Dairy Foods Association is grateful to Agriculture Secretary Rollins for investing up to $100 million in new and ongoing research into animal vaccinations and therapeutic tools to manage highly pathogenic avian influenza in our nation’s dairy herds and commercial poultry flocks. We continue to urge USDA and its federal partners to act quickly to develop and approve the use of safe, effective bovine vaccines to guard against current and future strains of avian influenza affecting U.S. dairy. It is essential that the federal government work with our industry to ensure a vaccination strategy is feasible and cost-effective for farmers while working with international trading partners to assure the use of vaccines does not limit or disrupt U.S. agricultural exports.”

The National Chicken Council

“We applaud Secretary Rollins and the Trump administration for their desire and commitment to combat HPAI across all species – a common goal shared by U.S. broiler producers. Particularly, we appreciate the measured and science-based approach for the potential use of an effective and applicable vaccine for laying hens and turkeys, and the administration’s commitment to work with our trading partners to minimize any potential negative trade effects should a vaccine ever be used. As the administration works to remove unnecessary burdens to bring down the price of eggs, we will continue to encourage FDA to act on our petition to modify an Obama-era regulation that would release up to 400 million surplus broiler hatching eggs into the egg breaking market. We look forward to working with the administration, states, public health professionals and veterinarians to be part of the solution.”

United Egg Producers

“UEP’s farmer-members thank President Donald Trump and the administration for stepping up to take action in the extraordinary fight against highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI). President Trump and USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins have demonstrated their commitment to working alongside America’s egg farmers in addressing the devastation of HPAI on the U.S. egg industry by driving resources and expertise to where they are most needed.”

The Food Industry Association

“We appreciate the strategy that U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Rollins and her team outlined to reduce avian flu outbreaks and look forward to working with USDA to maintain a safe, affordable and stable egg supply. Eggs are a critically important protein source for families and a key ingredient in many recipes. Consumers rely on all of us – producers, USDA, and food retailers and wholesalers – to keep eggs stocked, safe and affordable. We are optimistic that the strategy Secretary Rollins outlined along with the commitment of so many key players to work closely together and share information, strategies and tactics will result in the improved management and mitigation of avian flu."

American Veterinary Medical Association

“New USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins, just weeks into her role, is focused on combating avian flu, which has caused egg prices to soar nearly 53% in the past year. She aims to collaborate on solutions like vaccines, but warns there's no quick fix.”

The Pet Food Institute

“PFI thanks USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins for introducing a comprehensive strategy to combat HPAI, which has been devastating for America’s poultry farmers, who are trusted by U.S. pet food makers to provide the high-quality ingredients used in cat and dog food,” said Dana Brooks, president and CEO of PFI. “U.S. pet food makers look forward to participating in discussions on how to best support USDA in implementing this critical five-point plan over the coming months. This includes working to ensure that egg imports meet strict U.S. safety standards so they can be used in safe, complete and balanced pet food that is fed to dogs and cats in 82 million U.S. households, as well as expanding the Wildlife Biosecurity Assessments pilot program and working with partners to explore possible vaccine and therapeutics options.”

The Meat Institute

“We are glad to see @SecRollins swift and comprehensive actions on biosecurity for HPAI. We look forward to helping Sec. Rollins, President Trump and @USDA ensure there are no trade concerns as we work together to protect livestock and poultry.”

National Pork Producers Council

“Egg prices have soared, and costly state mandates like CA Prop. 12 have only made it worse. Thank you, @SecRollins, for taking action to reduce regulatory burdens and lower food costs. There is bipartisan agreement for a fix to support farmers, consumers, and affordability.”

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/02/27/what-they-are-saying-strong-support-usdas-actions-combat-avian-flu

[TSA]

El0n and his lost boys made this decision for us

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mana-food-aid-producer-loses-usaid-contracts_n_67c1fdb7e4b0c96eb9312299

https://x.com/mj_lee/status/1896384406736277652

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/mj_lee/status/1896384406736277652

What about the money that bought food overseas closer to the actual starving people?

And why does Elon lie about so many things?

[ChumpDumper]

Why can't the world's most specialest boy do simple math?

1896627205200875549

https://x.com/Fahrenthold/status/1896627205200875549

[z0sa]

Just memory holers doing memory holer things. Conservatives can't read or do math, so they'll believe the numbers they see are static and unchangeable. They'll believe President Musk when he inevitably lies about the amounts, too, and call any efforts to get real auditing and/or real numbers fake news from a lying media.

[Blake]

https://x.com/mj_lee/status/1896384406736277652

Lol "FAVREAU IS A DOLLAR STORE LIAR"



........ however.......

[Blake]

House Committee on Agriculture “@SecRollins

plan to fix egg prices after Biden failed to respond to the outbreaks: - $500M for farm biosecurity - $400M for farmer relief $100M for R&D - Cutting red tape & costly regulations - Importing safe eggs to lower prices.”

House Committee on Agriculture
“Under @SecRollins, @USDA is wasting no time to tackle the avian flu and get egg prices under control.”

Senate Ag Committee Republicans

“Chairman johnBoozman applauds @SecRollins for prioritizing a strategy to combat avian influenza.”

Texas Department of Agriculture

“Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller applauds United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Secretary Brooke Rollins for her decisive action in addressing the ongoing avian influenza outbreak. Her five-prong plan makes it clear that tackling this crisis is the USDA’s number one priority—something that was sorely lacking under the Biden Administration. For too long, Washington has ignored the impact of this outbreak on farmers, ranchers, and consumers. The Biden Administration allowed egg prices to skyrocket while doing little to curb the spread of the virus. Rather than finding and investing in better solutions for limiting the spread and treating the virus, we’ve been forced to cull over 166 million birds. That’s not a strategy—it’s a failure of leadership, one that our poultry producers and consumers are paying for. Secretary Rollins is taking action by sharpening biosecurity measures, developing vaccines tailored to this evolving strain, and applying critical funding to research to prepare better and protect our agricultural industry. This is the type of leadership we need—bold, proactive, and focused on results. I stand ready to work alongside Secretary Rollins and her team to ensure Texas farmers and ranchers have the tools to fight this disease, protect their livestock, and keep food prices stable for American families.”

Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Services

“Iowa's poultry farmers have been hit hard by H5N1 HPAI. I am grateful to Secretary Rollins and USDA for making this issue a top priority. Secretary Rollins and her team at USDA have introduced a broad, five-pronged plan to better support poultry producers and tackle rising egg prices for families. Enhanced biosecurity is the best way to protect our flocks from any virus. Secretary Rollins has pledged $500 million to support on-farm biosecurity assessments and cost-share funding, which will help farmers make necessary infrastructure improvements. The plan also commits $400 million to update indemnity tables, something I called on USDA to do last year, to ensure farmers are receiving fair market rates for impacted birds. I am supportive of exploring an effective H5N1 HPAI vaccination strategy. I encourage USDA to work closely with state animal health officials, farmers and industry to formulate an implementation strategy, incorporate valuable lessons learned, and minimize potential negative trade impacts. Our team at the Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship appreciates the strong partnership we have with USDA. We look forward to working together to create a modern and effective H5N1 HPAI response strategy.”

National Association of State Departments of Agriculture

“U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins’ remarks made to NASDA members this morning announced that these steps are already underway, and NASDA stands ready to collaborate with USDA and federal agencies to ensure the United States’ collective response to HPAI is coordinated, efficient and effective at all levels.”

American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall

“We appreciate USDA’s blueprint for tackling avian influenza America’s farmers are committed to ensuring a safe and abundant food supply, and these investments to advance biosecurity and research will further equip them to combat the threat of HPAI.”

American Farm Bureau Federation

“America’s farmers are committed to ensuring a safe and abundant food supply, and they take the threat of Highly Pathological Avian Influenza (HPAI) seriously,” said AFBF economist Bernt Nelson. “Strict biosecurity measures on the farm and the depopulation of infected birds are evidence of the extreme lengths’ farmers go to protect the health of the national flock and the American public. Farm Bureau supports research to develop a safe, effective, and practical vaccine for HPAI in birds. In the meantime, containing the spread of the virus is a priority.”

Texas Farm Bureau

“Texas Farm Bureau (TFB) thanks President Donald Trump and U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins for working on a comprehensive strategy to combat the avian flu outbreak and providing common sense solutions to stabilize egg prices. We also thank Secretary Rollins for taking time to recently meet with TFB county leaders and other agricultural organizations in East Texas to hear firsthand about the issues facing the poultry sector. TFB looks forward to our continued work with the administration to create more opportunities for Texas farmers, ranchers and consumers.”

National Milk Producers Federation

“Dairy farmers and cooperatives appreciate USDA’s leadership in supporting American agriculture and safeguarding animal health as it deals with what soon will be a second year of H5N1 bird flu disruptions in dairy cattle. Dairy farmers and all of agriculture takes biosecurity seriously, and we thank USDA and the Trump Administration for actions that will further those efforts. “We support the department’s initiatives to advance vaccine development and deployment that will help control, and ultimately eliminate, the virus in dairy cattle. And we also want to remind consumers that, even as dairy farmers are working with veterinarians and officials at all levels of government to eliminate this animal health threat, milk for consumers remains safe to drink because of the effectiveness of pasteurization.”

International Dairy Foods Association

“The International Dairy Foods Association is grateful to Agriculture Secretary Rollins for investing up to $100 million in new and ongoing research into animal vaccinations and therapeutic tools to manage highly pathogenic avian influenza in our nation’s dairy herds and commercial poultry flocks. We continue to urge USDA and its federal partners to act quickly to develop and approve the use of safe, effective bovine vaccines to guard against current and future strains of avian influenza affecting U.S. dairy. It is essential that the federal government work with our industry to ensure a vaccination strategy is feasible and cost-effective for farmers while working with international trading partners to assure the use of vaccines does not limit or disrupt U.S. agricultural exports.”

The National Chicken Council

“We applaud Secretary Rollins and the Trump administration for their desire and commitment to combat HPAI across all species – a common goal shared by U.S. broiler producers. Particularly, we appreciate the measured and science-based approach for the potential use of an effective and applicable vaccine for laying hens and turkeys, and the administration’s commitment to work with our trading partners to minimize any potential negative trade effects should a vaccine ever be used. As the administration works to remove unnecessary burdens to bring down the price of eggs, we will continue to encourage FDA to act on our petition to modify an Obama-era regulation that would release up to 400 million surplus broiler hatching eggs into the egg breaking market. We look forward to working with the administration, states, public health professionals and veterinarians to be part of the solution.”

United Egg Producers

“UEP’s farmer-members thank President Donald Trump and the administration for stepping up to take action in the extraordinary fight against highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI). President Trump and USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins have demonstrated their commitment to working alongside America’s egg farmers in addressing the devastation of HPAI on the U.S. egg industry by driving resources and expertise to where they are most needed.”

The Food Industry Association

“We appreciate the strategy that U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Rollins and her team outlined to reduce avian flu outbreaks and look forward to working with USDA to maintain a safe, affordable and stable egg supply. Eggs are a critically important protein source for families and a key ingredient in many recipes. Consumers rely on all of us – producers, USDA, and food retailers and wholesalers – to keep eggs stocked, safe and affordable. We are optimistic that the strategy Secretary Rollins outlined along with the commitment of so many key players to work closely together and share information, strategies and tactics will result in the improved management and mitigation of avian flu."

American Veterinary Medical Association

“New USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins, just weeks into her role, is focused on combating avian flu, which has caused egg prices to soar nearly 53% in the past year. She aims to collaborate on solutions like vaccines, but warns there's no quick fix.”

The Pet Food Institute

“PFI thanks USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins for introducing a comprehensive strategy to combat HPAI, which has been devastating for America’s poultry farmers, who are trusted by U.S. pet food makers to provide the high-quality ingredients used in cat and dog food,” said Dana Brooks, president and CEO of PFI. “U.S. pet food makers look forward to participating in discussions on how to best support USDA in implementing this critical five-point plan over the coming months. This includes working to ensure that egg imports meet strict U.S. safety standards so they can be used in safe, complete and balanced pet food that is fed to dogs and cats in 82 million U.S. households, as well as expanding the Wildlife Biosecurity Assessments pilot program and working with partners to explore possible vaccine and therapeutics options.”

The Meat Institute

“We are glad to see @SecRollins swift and comprehensive actions on biosecurity for HPAI. We look forward to helping Sec. Rollins, President Trump and @USDA ensure there are no trade concerns as we work together to protect livestock and poultry.”

National Pork Producers Council

“Egg prices have soared, and costly state mandates like CA Prop. 12 have only made it worse. Thank you, @SecRollins, for taking action to reduce regulatory burdens and lower food costs. There is bipartisan agreement for a fix to support farmers, consumers, and affordability.”

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/02/27/what-they-are-saying-strong-support-usdas-actions-combat-avian-flu

Summarize your text wall, pizza.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:cfy5rgqvohpdqxgu2geb5u2b/bafkreiacz7kuke6nsslizut5nd42qntwlwrcf4ndimjvvhevy p5w74gvwq@jpeg

[ChumpDumper]

:lol why do these guys have such difficulty approximating normal human beings?

[Winehole23]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/raw/p0kl23fr.jpg?v=9


He gave us his heart


...+ over 290 million smackers!


a fairly inexpensive price tag for control of the system of payment of the richest country in the world, by the world's richest man

[Winehole23]

...and all the HR, and all the GSA leases

[Knoxxx]

:lol why do these guys have such difficulty approximating normal human beings?

At least it makes them easy to spot!

[Winehole23]

DOGE defenders seem to have evaporated, except for TSA

Are they waiting for new talking points?

Lol Trumpies afraid to talk politics

[ChumpDumper]

When you actually try to talk politics with any of these Trumptards, they shut the fuck up after one or two points or questions because they almost immediately contradict themselves or simply make no sense.

They're just all grievance trolls and deadenders now.

[Winehole23]

When you actually try to talk politics with any of these Trumptards, they shut the fuck up after one or two points or questions because they almost immediately contradict themselves or simply make no sense.

They're just all grievance trolls and deadenders now.

It's bad faith

They know they are wrecking the USA. They know people won't sit still for it.

They're just waiting for the oppotune moment to punish the rest of us for their crimes, if we dare to resist them, cloaked as they are in a 1.6% landslide victory and the considerable force of the USG.

[Winehole23]

NO MOAR WOKE SCIENCE



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:y4dkrhqph7kakgqa2ersnkif/bafkreidstjigkvbg7hw6xgujlmz2ihmp6qxbgbkiulgogiueq sj3ygosra@jpeghttps://www.propublica.org/article/ted-cruz-woke-grants-national-science-foundation

[Blake]

It's bad faith

They know they are wrecking the USA. They know people won't sit still for it.

They're just waiting for the oppotune moment to punish the rest of us for their crimes, if we dare to resist them, cloaked as they are in a 1.6% landslide victory and the considerable force of the USG.

But the lib tears are just too delicious. It's all worth it