Enemy of the people: Elon Musk

[Winehole23]

it's a literal government takeover by a foreign subversive


Let’s be crystal clear about what’s happening: A private citizen with zero Constitutional authority is effectively seizing control of critical government functions. The Constitution explicitly requires Senate confirmation for anyone wielding significant federal power — a requirement Musk has simply ignored as he installs his loyalists throughout the government while demanding access to basically all of the levers of power, and pushing out anyone who stands in his way.https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/31/elons-twitter-destruction-playbook-hits-the-us-government-and-its-even-more-dangerous/

[Winehole23]

There also appears to be an effort to use IT credentials from the executive office of the president to access GSA laptops and internal GSA infrastructure. Typically, access to agency systems requires workers to be employed at such agencies, sources say. While Musk’s team could be trying to obtain better laptops and equipment from GSA, sources fear that the mandate laid out in the DOGE executive order would grant the body broad access to GSA systems and data. That includes sensitive procurement data, data internal to all the system and services GSA offers, and internal monitoring software to surveil GSA employees as part of normal auditing and security processes.

The access could give Musk’s proxies the ability to remote into laptops, listen in on meetings, read emails, amongst many other things, a former Biden official told WIRED on Friday.https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-lackeys-general-services-administration/

[Winehole23]

Aides to Elon Musk charged with running the U.S. government human resources agency have locked career civil servants out of computer systems that contain the personal data of millions of federal employees, according to two agency officials.

[….]

The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said.

“We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems,” one of the officials said. “That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It creates real cybersecurity and hacking implications.”

Officials affected by the move can still log on and access functions such as email but can no longer see the massive datasets that cover every facet of the federal workforce.



Again, Elon has not been nominated as an officer of the US, and the Senate has not even been given the ability to review any such nomination. Instead, he’s basically acting like he runs the government and is slashing and cutting with wild abandon.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/

[Winehole23]

ladies and gentlemen, Mike Masnick


Millions of people actually depend on the US government functioning. You can’t just have some random jackass show up and rip out fences and assume shit won’t go south. They went completely south with Twitter, but that was just a random social media site people could move on from. This is the most powerful country in the world, and it’s being ripped apart by someone with no concern or care for the actual damage he’s doing.


I would be among the first to say that the federal government needs massive reform, just as I thought that Twitter needed a major overhaul (one of the reasons I wrote my Protocols not Platforms (https://knightcolumbia.org/content/protocols-not-platforms-a-technological-approach-to-free-speech) paper was to try to inspire that kind of overhaul). But there are smart ways to do it and then there’s this: which is just utter destruction while looking over his shoulder to see if the nihilistic kids who worship his every move are finding it entertaining.


There’s a crucial lesson here about thoughtful reform versus destruction: Musk’s approach to institutions resembles a toddler “fixing” a grandfather clock by removing its pendulum. Yes, the clock needed maintenance — but now it can’t tell time at all. The federal government absolutely needs reform, but what we’re seeing isn’t reform — it’s vandalism dressed up as innovation. And unlike Twitter, where users could move to Mastodon or Bluesky (or just log off entirely), there’s no backup government waiting in the wings when Musk’s wrecking ball finishes swinging.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4d7w4ylnasmg7oayamznsznp/bafkreieer4t35xspinuwymrfciagd3kstpdn3uufhvcebxqq6 euhjuahja@jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

i need someone to ask john roberts if nondelegation (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/nondelegation_doctrine) applies to handing over the entire federal government to a single unelected billionaire

[Winehole23]

IF YOU DON'T ADVERTISE ON MY APP I WILL SUE YOUR ASS

gov.uscourts.txnd.393003.74.1.pdf (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.393003/gov.uscourts.txnd.393003.74.1.pdf)

[Winehole23]

Who knew Biden could have just stormed into the White House, handed a friendly billionaire the keys to all the federal buildings, fired anyone who might have voted for Trump and imposed the Green New Deal, police, gun and voting reform and Roe v. Wade by force, without barely a peep from Congress.

[Winehole23]

Is there a word for when a bunch of private citizens following orders from an unelected billionaire occupy government buildings and cut off communications?

[Winehole23]

this is a coup

Congress has the power of the purse

giving an unelected, unappointed person control of the US system of payment as well as HR is a five-alarm fire


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4aeruxx4muee4e3y5snjqp5b/bafkreihbmvnq3qcpyoqr2zpmim4ktm7npa3w2lcpcp457ez2u b4k2yc3la@jpeg

[Winehole23]

I know there are some tech savvy journalists following me, let me know if you're interested in the security outcomes of random computers being plugged into federal government department networks and I'll try to get you in touch with someone with explicit expertise who can tell you how bad it is

[Winehole23]

if the US constitution still applies, the president can't nullify spending

[Winehole23]

Sen. Wyden testing the oversight angle, at least someone on Capitol Hill is talking about this


Senate Finance Committee Ranking Member Ron Wyden, D-Ore., demanded answers from Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent today following a report that personnel affiliated with Elon Musk have sought access to a highly sensitive Treasury Department payment system. That system, which is maintained by non-political staff, disperses trillions of dollars each year, such as Social Security and Medicare benefits, tax credits for individuals and businesses, grants and payments to government contractors, including those that compete directly with Musk-owned companies.


Senator Wyden wrote in a new letter: “To put it bluntly, these payment systems simply cannot fail, and any politically-motivated meddling in them risks severe damage to our country and the economy. I am deeply concerned that following the federal grant and loan freeze earlier this week, these officials associated with Musk may have intended to access these payment systems to illegally withhold payments to any number of programs. I can think of no good reason why political operators who have demonstrated a blatant disregard for the law would need access to these sensitive, mission-critical systems … The federal government is in a financially precarious position, currently utilizing accounting maneuvers to continue paying its bills since it reached the debt limit at the beginning of the year. I am concerned that mismanagement of these payment systems could threaten the full faith and credit of the United States.”

His letter continued: “The press has previously reported that Musk was denied a high-level clearance to access the government’s most sensitive secrets. I am concerned that Musk’s enormous business operation in China -- a country whose intelligence agencies have stolen vast amounts of sensitive data about Americans, including U.S. government employee data by hacking U.S. government systems -- endangers U.S. cybersecurity and creates conflicts of interest that make his access to these systems a national security risk.”
https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/wyden-demands-answers-following-report-of-musk-personnel-seeking-access-to-highly-sensitive-us-treasury-payments-system

[Winehole23]

presumably there are a lot of pissed off civil servants who can speak to what's been going on

[Winehole23]

Spiegel reports that Musk now also has access to sensitive data of competitors with regard to their financial dealings with the government.

[Winehole23]

Chuck Schumer: out to lunch


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:anyesr57bwobytddoohv6ehe/bafkreiaww7myjllh77rzd75ii7ki4whznha4d5ac2pwakv6ln lzhcabba4@jpeg

[ducks]

Chuck Schumer: out to lunch


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:anyesr57bwobytddoohv6ehe/bafkreiaww7myjllh77rzd75ii7ki4whznha4d5ac2pwakv6ln lzhcabba4@jpeg

He is old and not all their
Where are the young and upcoming liberals
Harry lol

[Winehole23]

now comes the spin


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

“'They seem to want Treasury to be the chokepoint on payments, and that’s unprecedented,' the person added, emphasizing that it is not the bureau’s role to decide which payments to make — it is 'just to make the f-ing payments.'"

[ducks]

No classified material was accessed without proper security clearances.

[Thread]

No classified material was accessed without proper security clearances.

Then?

Let us proceed...

[ChumpDumper]

No classified material was accessed without proper security clearances.

Why should Elon have all your information?

[Thread]

Why should Elon have all your information?

Everybody has got it. EVERYBODY. You can't go to the fuckin' public library and use their CPU's without them knowing precisely what you're perusing every second. You can't step out of the house in this country without cameras on every other telephone pole recording every move you make.

Shit, Dumper, they'd be inside the wire if they could get away with it.

Grow up, Dumper.

[ducks]

[QUOTE=ChumpDumper;11191719]Why should Elon have all your information?[/QUOTE

Because Trump won and he told everyone doge was going to look into spending
He is looking into waste

His concern is that not your personally info

[ChumpDumper]

Because Trump won and he told everyone doge was going to look into spending
He is looking into waste

His concern is that not your personally info
He has all your information.

Why should he have it?

[ducks]

So
He is not going to misuse it

[ducks]

Others there had it
Anyone could find my name address date of birth
And many can even find my social security number

[ChumpDumper]

So
He is not going to misuse it
How do you know?

How do you know the places he put your information are even secure?

Others there had it
Anyone could find my name address date of birth
And many can even find my social security number
Why do you want more people outside of government to have access to your information?

Do you consider this a positive good for you?

[ducks]

I know the are secure because he knows more then you
He has made more money than you ever could. He wants to help the USA and inflation so his business will do well



He wants to leave a legacy

I know the democracts only want to make money for themselves with their inside stock trading and care less about anything else except getting elected again.

[Winehole23]

Why should Elon have all your information?

Because Trump won and he told everyone doge was going to look into spending
He is looking into wasteCongress has the power of the purse

the president can't nullify duly enacted spending by calling it waste

giving the people's data to his billionaire buddy Elon looks sus

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886129005759262964

More fraud

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886143806476583310

And more

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886102414194835755

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886132832495378684

Much much more fraud

[ducks]

https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1886130734454194176NG: Ukrainian President Zelensky says that Ukraine has received only about $75 billion of the $177 billion in aid from the United States and is unsure of the whereabouts of the remaining funds.

[ducks]

Bishop Mariann Budde's Episcopal Migration Ministries (EMM) collected $53 million from Govt programs in 2023 for "Immigrant Resettlement".

Now we know why she gave Trump the Multi-Cultural Marxist lecture - she warned him because money was on the line.

The "Immigrant Resettlement" programs are much larger and more profitable than even Gavin Newsom's "Homeless Resettlement" programs.

Has this program been deleted from Federal Govt spend yet?

[ducks]

Why did USAID give $27 million to the US fiscal sponsor of the group controlling Soros-funded prosecutors and telling them which American citizens and politicians to prosecute?

[Blake]

I know the are secure because he knows more then you
He has made more money than you ever could. He wants to help the USA and inflation so his business will do well



He wants to leave a legacy

I know the democracts only want to make money for themselves with their inside stock trading and care less about anything else except getting elected again.

Why do you do these mental gymnastics to convince yourself of this crap? :lol

[ducks]

I think the Democrats regret pushing Elon Musk away at this point.

He is dismantling all of their strongholds. They're scattering like roaches.

It's glorious to watch.

[ElNono]

I think the Democrats regret pushing Elon Musk away at this point.

He is dismantling all of their strongholds. They're scattering like roaches.

It's glorious to watch.

I actually think it's entirely the opposite. I think they love the fact that President Musk loves the spotlight, much like VP Trump, which generally maximizes exposure to fuckups. It's indeed glorious to watch.

Democrats just have a different oligarchy to cater to.

[GAustex]

How longer before lefties start burning things down

[SnakeBoy]

How longer before lefties start burning things down

Soon I hope

They've been so passive in defeat so far

[ducks]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886168348435599678

They paid a journalist 20 million to dig up dirt on Rudy

[ducks]

Soon I hope

They've been so passive in defeat so far

Portland was already and no one ever spent a night in jail

[ElNono]

Soon I hope

They've been so passive in defeat so far

You'll be disappointed... but you'll probably used to it by now, tbh...

[Blake]

How longer before lefties start burning things down

You mean like January 6? Why do you guys crave real life violence so much? It's weird

[Thread]

You mean like January 6? Why do you guys crave real life violence so much? It's weird

Because you guys stood down in PA., so he'd get shot.

[Thread]

Portland was already and no one ever spent a night in jail

Yep.

[ChumpDumper]

I know the are secure because he knows more then you
He has made more money than you ever could. He wants to help the USA and inflation so his business will do well



He wants to leave a legacy

I know the democracts only want to make money for themselves with their inside stock trading and care less about anything else except getting elected again.
Thank you for admitting you have no evidence your information is secure.

You simply live to worship the rich and let them do whatever they want because they're rich.

Never complain about insider trading again.

[ChumpDumper]

How longer before lefties start burning things down


Soon I hope

They've been so passive in defeat so far

Why do you two thirst for violence?

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886129005759262964

More fraud


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886143806476583310

And more


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886102414194835755


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886132832495378684

Much much more fraud

c:lolnspiracy the:lolries

[Winehole23]

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[SnakeBoy]

it's a literal government takeover by a foreign subversive

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/31/elons-twitter-destruction-playbook-hits-the-us-government-and-its-even-more-dangerous/

Guess you've had a change of heart


it's fun to clown on Elon; he is a clown.

[Winehole23]

Guess you've had a change of heartthat's a misconception, it's still fun to clown on ElOn

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yobyqjt4hs5icoihvaombhhn/bafkreicj6x7nqjv7dp5ttcyxssfxcnogrsw4iubzub626xwb3 aimfgmejm@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Dept. of Education rampage coming

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5z5kjudkufmjpg5ufswxdqd2/bafkreifmniciehmyqk7ops667l4lq3wfgw2lohporch6dj5f4 pg6ddj4di@jpeg

[ducks]

Dept. of Education rampage coming

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5z5kjudkufmjpg5ufswxdqd2/bafkreifmniciehmyqk7ops667l4lq3wfgw2lohporch6dj5f4 pg6ddj4di@jpeg

Great when states were in charge of it USA was 1 not 24

[ducks]

Chuck Schumer has NEVER held a job in the private sector, and his net worth is $81 MILLION.

Born in 1950
Graduated law school 1975
Leeching off Tax Payers since 1975
Never had a real
Job

[ChumpDumper]

Guess you've had a change of heart

He's a foreign subversive clown.

Why do you want him to have all your information?

[Thread]

Chuck Schumer has NEVER held a job in the private sector, and his net worth is $81 MILLION.

Born in 1950
Graduated law school 1975
Leeching off Tax Payers since 1975
Never had a real
Job

Tell it, ducks.

Testify!!!

[Thread]

He's a foreign subversive clown.

Why do you want him to have all your information?

Because the Public Library has it. Six of one///1/2 dozen of the other.

[ducks]

He's a foreign subversive clown.

Why do you want him to have all your information?

We want the waste out of the government
Why do you want the waste ?

[ducks]

c:lolnspiracy the:lolries

You saw that for anything except Jake tapper
Which is fake news

[ChumpDumper]

We want the waste out of the government
Why do you want the waste ?There are way of cutting waste that aren't this stupid. Why do you want to be stupid?


You saw that for anything except Jake tapper
Which is fake news
Nope. It's just stupid to have to make up bullshit to justify such a blatant power grab.

Would you like it if Soros got all your information in the name of cutting costs?

[Yonivore]

There are way of cutting waste that aren't this stupid.
And, yet, no one ever has.

What will you say if our national budget is a trillion or more dollars to the black next year? Just curious.

[ChumpDumper]

And, yet, no one ever has.Why didn't Trump?


What will you say if our national budget is a trillion or more dollars to the black next year? Just curious.Is this your prediction?

I'd still say it was stupid.

Why do you want Elon to have all you information?

[Yonivore]

Why didn't Trump?
He didn't have the right team in his first term.


Is this your prediction?

I'd still say it was stupid.
You would.


Why do you want Elon to have all you information?
Why do you want USAID to have all your information?

[ChumpDumper]

He didn't have the right team in his first term.He had complete control of the government. All Congress had to do was cut the spending and not cut taxes for the rich.


You would.Because it's stupid.


Why do you want USAID to have all your information?Tell us all how specifically USAID has all my information.

It seems you're ignorant here too.

[Yonivore]

He had complete control of the government. All Congress had to do was cut the spending and not cut taxes for the rich.
Okay. Whatever you say. He's doing it this term.


Because it's stupid.
You might be the first to suggest a trillion dollar savings is stupid.


Tell us all how specifically USAID has all my information.

It seems you're ignorant here too.
Tell me how Elon Musk has all MY information? I thought you were talking about the kerfuffle over Musk's staff demanding access to USAID information.

[ChumpDumper]

Okay. Whatever you say. He's doing it this term.
It's a fact he didn't do it before.


You might be the first to suggest a trillion dollar savings is stupid.
Doing it the stupidest way possible is stupid.


Tell me how Elon Musk has all MY information? I thought you were talking about the kerfuffle over Musk's staff demanding access to USAID information.
So now you're admitting you're ignorant about the United States Department of the Treasury?

:rollinyour blogs are really missing a lot

[Yonivore]

It's a fact he didn't do it before.
Okay.


Doing it the stupidest way possible is stupid.
We obviously disagree and, he accomplishing things no previous administration has.


So now you're admitting you're ignorant about the United States Department of the Treasury?

:rollinyour blogs are really missing a lot
Oh, that. So, David Lebryk resigns instead of allowing DOGE to inspect his books after HIS staff reports to DOGE that Lebryk has NEVER denied a payment -- even to terrorist organizations? You have a problem with that?

[ChumpDumper]

We obviously disagree and, he accomplishing things no previous administration has.He is doing a lot of stupid shit.



Oh, that. So, David Lebryk resigns instead of allowing DOGE to inspect his books after HIS staff reports to DOGE that Lebryk has NEVER denied a payment -- even to terrorist organizations? You have a problem with that?:lmao THIS is your blog's narrative?

You are stunningly ignorant.

[Yonivore]

He is doing a lot of stupid shit.
Like what?


:lmao THIS is your blog's narrative?

You are stunningly ignorant.
Tell me, what am I missing?

[ducks]

Lots of people you didn't vote for have access to your social security number. On the other hand, Musk is auditing the corruption and wasteful management in the federal government, something you should support. Wish him luck. Corruption harms Americans. Focus on that.

[ChumpDumper]

Like what?


Tell me, what am I missing?Let's test your ignorance.

Who pays your tax return?

[Yonivore]

Let's test your ignorance.
So, you don't have an answer.


Who pays your tax return?
What do you mean, "who pays your tax return?"

[ChumpDumper]

So, you don't have an answer.


What do you mean, "who pays your tax return?"
When you get money back in a tax return, where do the funds come from?

[Yonivore]

When you get money back in a tax return, where do the funds come from?
My pocket. It represents taxes I overpaid. Your point?

[ChumpDumper]

My pocket. It represents taxes I overpaid. Your point?Your overpaid taxes to your pocket and later your pocket transferred funds back to you?

How does that work?

[Yonivore]

Your overpaid taxes to your pocket and later your pocket transferred funds back to you?

How does that work?
Oh, I don't like it, Chump. In fact, I work real hard every year to neither get a refund or owe. In fact, I've gotten pretty good at it. Last year, Uncle Sam owed me $7.00.

But, if you consider the fungibility of money, yeah, anything I'm refunded is originally from my pocket and belonged in my pocket all along. Now, if the government paid me interest on the money they've been holding for me, you'd have a point. THEN, I'd be getting money from the government. But, as it stands, if I overpaid taxes, it's simply money from my pocket that's been sitting in a government account somewhere, not collecting interest (for me) and not being used. It's just sitting there.

You don't understand taxes, do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, I don't like it, Chump. In fact, I work real hard every year to neither get a refund or owe. In fact, I've gotten pretty good at it. Last year, Uncle Sam owed me $7.00.

But, if you consider the fungibility of money, yeah, anything I'm refunded is originally from my pocket and belonged in my pocket all along. Now, if the government paid me interest on the money they've been holding for me, you'd have a point. THEN, I'd be getting money from the government. But, as it stands, if I overpaid taxes, it's simply money from my pocket that's been sitting in a government account somewhere, not collecting interest (for me) and not being used. It's just sitting there.

You don't understand taxes, do you?Who in the government paid you the money you were owed? Which department?

[Yonivore]

Who in the government paid you? Which department?
The check comes from the U. S. Treasury, the department tasked with writing checks. What's your point?

[ChumpDumper]

The check comes from the U. S. Treasury, the department tasked with writing checks. What's your point?Now Elon has all your information related to that.

Who knows what he wants to do with it?

[Yonivore]

Now Elon has all your information related to that.

Who knows what he wants to do with it?
I know! He want's to save fucking money. Maybe this year, he can keep me from being owed $7.00 from the U. S. Treasury.

Why, what do you think he wants to do with it?

[ducks]

Now Elon has all your information related to that.

Who knows what he wants to do with it?

Oh no the richest guy in the world has that info that is looking to see how much money is being wasted !
Instead of some one that is living paycheck to paycheck!

[Blake]

Great when states were in charge of it USA was 1 not 24

Source?

[ChumpDumper]

I know! He want's to save fucking money. Maybe this year, he can keep me from being owed $7.00 from the U. S. Treasury.

Why, what do you think he wants to do with it?Who knows?

He can do anything he wants to with it. He could just give it away or lose it or get hacked.

Do you know where he's keeping your information?

Do you want him to have your information?

[Blake]

I know! He want's to save fucking money. Maybe this year, he can keep me from being owed $7.00 from the U. S. Treasury.

Why, what do you think he wants to do with it?

Why do you think any company wants your info, genius?

[Winehole23]

right on


About 100 Federal employees and supporters occupied the courtyard of the OPM building for most of Sunday afternoon and into the evening. For a brief period they blocked the doors to the building when a handful of self-identified ‘data miners’ waited to be admitted to the building. The small group of young men eventually left without entering after the protesters would not let them near the front doors. https://dcmediagroup.us/2025/02/02/federal-workers-block-doors-of-admin-building-over-elon-musk-data-breach/

[Winehole23]

which is a fucking crime for them to have

the Trump crime spree is accelerating


Among the databases Musk's team now controls:

USAJobs (Social Security numbers, home addresses, employment records of anyone who applies for a federal job)
EHRI (SS #, birthdate, salaries, addresses, job descriptions, disciplinary history of federal workers)
HI (Private health info)

[Winehole23]

One of the OPM staffers received an email from the agency’s new leadership instructing them to give Musk’s team “access [to] the system as an admin user" and "code read and write permissions."

[Winehole23]

her emails, tho


A new server used to control these databases has been placed in a conference room that Musk’s team is using as a command center. An OPM staffer described the server as a piece of commercial hardware they believed was not obtained through the proper federal procurement process.

[Winehole23]

“China and Russia are literally trying to hack us every day and we just gave all this data over to somebody that's not been properly vetted,” an OPM staffers said. “It's not just Amanda Scales, it's all the [political appointees] in that office right now."

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

private citizens can nuke federal agencies now?


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[Yonivore]

Who knows?

He can do anything he wants to with it. He could just give it away or lose it or get hacked.

Do you know where he's keeping your information?

Do you want him to have your information?
I'll let this Matt Whitlock guy, on X, speak for me, in his response to Fauxchahontas. Because, well, you're boring me now.

https://x.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1886220751830765940


Nobody elected the staff that operated Joe Biden like an animatronic puppet for the last 4 years while he wrecked the country so i'm not sure the "nobody elected Elon" criticism really has legs.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll let this Matt Whitlock guy, on X, speak for me, in his response to Fauxchahontas. Because, well, you're boring me now.

https://x.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1886220751830765940

I didn't ask him. I asked you.

Do you want Elon to have your Treasury information on some store bought server?

It's a simple yes or no question.

[Yonivore]

I didn't ask him. I asked you.

Do you want Elon to have your Treasury information on some store bought server?

It's a simple yes or no question.
Is that what's happening? From where did OPM buy their current servers?

Could it be DOGE is simply trying to gain access to OPM data in order to audit their efficiency and OPM staff is being a big obstacle?

I vote the latter.

If you're asking me whether or not I trust Elon Musk and DOGE, over Biden holdovers, the answer is yes. So, I'll just repeat Whitlock, "Nobody elected the staff that operated Joe Biden like an animatronic puppet for the last 4 years while he wrecked the country so I'm not sure the 'nobody elected Elon' criticism really has legs."

[ChumpDumper]

Is that what's happening? From where did OPM buy their current servers?

Could it be DOGE is simply trying to gain access to OPM data in order to audit their efficiency and OPM staff is being a big obstacle?

I vote the latter.

If you're asking me whether or not I trust Elon Musk and DOGE, over Biden holdovers, the answer is yes. So, I'll just repeat Whitlock, "Nobody elected the staff that operated Joe Biden like an animatronic puppet for the last 4 years while he wrecked the country so I'm not sure the 'nobody elected Elon' criticism really has legs."
:lol that's a lot of words.

None of them answers the question.

Just say you want Elon to have all your information without reservation.

You trust him with all your information.

I'll believe you.

[Yonivore]

:lol that's a lot of words.

None of them answers the question.
The question doesn't have any foundation. From which store did DOGE purchase said server? Where is it being secured? I simply reject the premise of your question.

If you're asking if I want DOGE to have access to employee information so that it can perform the function with which they've been tasked; the answer is an emphatic yes.

Just like I want DOGE to have access to the Treasury files to see if that functionary who quit (instead of taking retirement) was really just rubber-stamping all payouts, 100% of them, regardless of the recipients.

[ChumpDumper]

The question doesn't have any foundation. From which store did DOGE purchase said server? Where is it being secured? I simply reject the premise of your question.

If you're asking if I want DOGE to have access to employee information so that it can perform the function with which they've been tasked; the answer is an emphatic yes.

Just like I want DOGE to have access to the Treasury files to see if that functionary who quit (instead of taking retirement) was really just rubber-stamping all payouts, 100% of them, regardless of the recipients.

That wasn't the question.

You want Musk to have your Treasury information. You made that clear.

Why do you want Musk to yave your Treasury information.?

[Winehole23]

if I understand American politics correctly, progressivism is something that requires 60 senate votes to work, while national conservatism doesn’t require any votes at all

[ChumpDumper]

It is not Treasury's job to decide whom to pay.

[Winehole23]

from an EEOC administrative judge


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[Winehole23]

It really is that simple. If Biden had announced he appointed Selena Gomez to shut down ICE, nobody would doubt that's illegal and unconstitutional.Appointing Musk to shut down USAID is no different.

[Winehole23]

Nathan Tankus doesn't think Elon knows what he's doing


I think the operational risks, they’re so multi-varied, even trying to come up with an answer of how many, it’s like where do you start. Maybe the first is introducing non-native technology. Technology goes through a rigorous process to be used by the federal government, it’s checked for various safety issues. How many more years did people like Obama use Blackberries when everyone, including CEOs, were using iPhones? There’s a very rigorous process for making technology safe and secure. Obviously none of that process is happening. The organization responsible for doing that [the U.S. Digital Service] has been gutted and turned into a meme (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/).


As I discuss in the piece, there are systems that are run in parallel between and older and newer versions to make sure the same answers are coming out. We’re talking about systems where for years, both systems have been putting out correct data but not shutting down one because of edge cases where the data could be different. Only after years of work, they’ll shut down the older system. When you’re running old and new systems in tandem, you’re incurring both costs. My central terror, although there are a million ones you can pick, is that based on Musk’s history, the redundancies which are the premise of mission-critical IT systems, the premise that this must never fail, he’s going to look at it and say look at this inefficiency. A mission-critical system has to be inefficient because that’s how you make sure it functions all the time. The difference between 97 percent and 100 percent functioning is crucial. It may be inefficiency, but it means making sure that 88 percent of the federal government’s payments are going out all the time reliably.
https://prospect.org/economy/2025-02-03-filled-with-unmitigated-terror-musk-treasury-tankus-qa/

[Winehole23]

So we heard about how Musk’s people got access to the payment system (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/us/politics/elon-musk-doge-federal-payments-system.html?ref=crisesnotes.com), and then later reporting included unnamed sources saying that they only have read-only access at the moment. What do you think they’re up to? What could be done with read-only access?


I won’t speculate about all the things you can do with read-only access. The basic fundamental issue is, you read the code in order to understand it and make changes to the code. Why else are you looking at code except for proposing changes? The top civil service professional, a man who was just named acting Treasury secretary for a while, and technically appointed by Trump for that position, said that this is too serious for me to be willing to accept, and was put on paid administrative leave and then “made the decision” to retire but really was forced out.

[Winehole23]

The slow-motion trench warfare is happening and they have had successes on that front, like with USAID. What happens when they get an agency to bend to their will and control an agency, they could shut off payments at that source. With legacy IT systems, it’s impossible that they’ve gained any capabilities at least yet. Even if people are putatively complying with DOGE and that, they are not eager to say the least for this stuff to happen. I don’t think worrying about individual payments is on the track for the near future.


That being said, they can potentially be at the point, depending on how much more authority they get at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, to cut off the payments of an agency. If an agency is resisting, on an unclear timeline, they may be able to suffocate one agency’s payments. And if there’s even one day payments are not going out, it can be catastrophic. As we saw last week with the freeze at OMB.

[Winehole23]

If you told me now that the issue would be using the debt ceiling to justify spending cuts, I would breathe such a sigh of relief. That is just a normal five-alarm fire constitutional crisis. Where I’m at right now, from the moment I read the Washington Post reporting (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/31/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-systems/) on Friday to this moment, I have been filled with unmitigated terror. It’s a major motivation why I spent 20 continuous hours writing this piece. I am filled with terror, and not because of a constitutional crisis of using the debt ceiling to unconstitutionally impound spending.

[Winehole23]

A complete meltdown of the Treasury payment system, that’s the worst-case scenario of the Social Security checks not going out. I’m also concerned whether they have the idea now or whether they are rooting around and it will occur to them in next however many days, to use the payment system as a trump card to whatever limited checks and balances that there are left.

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[SnakeBoy]

He gave us his heart

[Thread]

He gave us his heart

...+ over 290 million smackers!

[Winehole23]

...+ over 290 million smackers!a fairly inexpensive price tag for control of the system of payment of the richest country in the world, by the world's richest man

[Winehole23]

Wall Street Journal: China Looks to Musk as Conduit to Trump, Seeking to Ward Off Harsh Policies

[SnakeBoy]

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Go Elon GO!

[ChumpDumper]

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Go Elon GO!

Why?

[SnakeBoy]

Why?

because cowardly Repugs won't get rid of it altogether

[Winehole23]

because they think they can

speedrunning to dictatorship

[SnakeBoy]

because they think they can

speedrunning to dictatorship

whatever it takes

[ChumpDumper]

because cowardly Repugs won't get rid of it altogether

Why do you want to get rid of it?

[Winehole23]

whatever it takesyou're gonna be sorry you tried

[Thread]

Why?

Because that Dept., is a fucking national disgrace.

What's more? You know it.

[Thread]

whatever it takes

Amen.

[Thread]

a fairly inexpensive price tag for control of the system of payment for the richest country in the world, by the world's richest man

It was just enough.

[Winehole23]

It was just enough.hah

history ain't over

[Winehole23]

our government-by-unelected-nutball said he just nuked IRS Direct File

who knows if it's true

[Winehole23]

I mean, it's so comical the straightforward description sounds insane



Members of Congress say they were just denied entry to USAID headquarters on orders of Elon Musk and DOGE and were told to contact the State Department for any further information.

[Winehole23]

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[SnakeBoy]

ruh roh

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[ChumpDumper]

ruh roh

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Do the "DOGE" employees have security clearance?

[SnakeBoy]

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[Thread]

hah

history ain't over

He left (history) long before PA., Winester.
Your side is gonna need to stand down again in order to bring him to the fore.

[Winehole23]

ruh roh

1886540157425164314DOJ is protecting Elon and his Lost Boys...

...from what, again?

[Thread]

DOJ is protecting Elon and his Lost Boys...

...from what, again?

...being hunted.

[ChumpDumper]

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Why?

[Thread]

Why?

To get your fuckin' goat.

[Winehole23]

...being hunted.they're doing a coup, regardless of the legalities, the dishonor is already on their heads

[ducks]

Source?

Google.com

[ducks]

We are $36 TRILLION in debt and government OVERSPENDING on foreign countries and foreign causes is NOT at all what people care about.

But I truly hope Democrats make it their hill to die on.

Democrats keep fighting to send American’s hard earned tax dollars overseas

[ducks]

You gotta laugh at the irony
https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1886600585924714674

Biden gave musk top security clearnace !

[Yonivore]

We are $36 TRILLION in debt and government OVERSPENDING on foreign countries and foreign causes is NOT at all what people care about.

But I truly hope Democrats make it their hill to die on.

Democrats keep fighting to send American’s hard earned tax dollars overseas
To be fair, they're also fighting to keep foreign murderers, fentanyl and trafficked children pouring across the border.

[Yonivore]

You gotta laugh at the irony
https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1886600585924714674

Biden gave musk top security clearnace !
That is funny. :lmao

[Winehole23]

deporting US citizens to foreign gulags, maybe El0n will build one on Mars


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[Yonivore]

deporting US citizens to foreign gulags, maybe El0n will build one on Mars
Maybe.

[ChumpDumper]

1886498750052327520

Looks like you fell for fake news again.

[Winehole23]

A 25-Year-Old With Elon Musk Ties Has Direct Access to the Federal Payment System | WIRED (https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/)

Changing the base code

[Winehole23]

Nathan Tankus


Since I published my article at 6 am yesterday morning, a number of current and former Bureau of the Fiscal Service officials have reached out and unfortunately confirmed the accuracy of my reporting. Both in my understanding of the technical situation and the extreme dangers that the access which had been reported up to that point. All thought read only access was extraordinarily dangerous to the country. Unfortunately, my sources also tell me that the subsequent anonymous sources mainstream journalists reported who worked to downplay the situation are not accurate.Wired beat me to the punch of reporting that a top DOGE employee, 25 year old former SpaceX employee Marko Elez, has not only read but write access to BFS servers. What can I say, I had to sleep and my sources messaged me after I was asleep. Their article is entitled (https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/?ref=crisesnotes.com) “A 25-Year-Old With Elon Musk Ties Has Direct Access to the Federal Payment System”, my sources have also independently (and before publication of the Wire article at 1 AM today) confirmed their reporting that:


Two of those sources say that Elez’s privileges include the ability not just to read but to write code on two of the most sensitive systems in the US government: The Payment Automation Manager (PAM) and Secure Payment System (SPS) at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS). Housed on a top-secret mainframe, these systems control, on a granular level, government payments that in their totality amount to more than a fifth of the US economy. [...]



Typically, those admin privileges could give someone the power to log into servers through secure shell access, navigate the entire file system, change user permissions, and delete or modify critical files. That could allow someone to bypass the security measures of, and potentially cause irreversible changes to, the very systems they have access to. [...]



"Technically I don't see why this couldn't happen," a federal IT worker tells WIRED in a phone call late on Monday night, referring to the possibility of a DOGE (https://www.wired.com/story/usaid-researchers-email-access/?ref=crisesnotes.com) employee being granted elevated access to a government server. "If you would have asked me a week ago, I'd have told you that this kind of thing would never in a million years happen. But now, who the fuck knows.
"


All of this is absolutely true according to my sources.Additionally, I can exclusively report that while there was initial hesitation from “IT Leadership” to give them access, they relented. However, they still believed this was extremely risky with one member of leadership saying “I’ve never done anything like this before”, according to a source familiar with the situation. A current IT employee of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service told me “This level of unchecked access is critically dangerous to the economy and the government”. When I replied “this is terrifying” to being informed that they have “write access” this source replied “Yeah it's not good. Read privileges on its own still would have left room for catastrophe, but read and write is apocalyptic.”



One source explicitly said that they were only reporting to me because there was no one left in the Federal Government to report security breaches to:


I do not wish to harm my agency in any way. I loved working here. We did some of the most important work in the country and barely anyone knew who we were. In normal times, I would report insider threats to the appropriate security channels inside the government- but there is no one left for me to report it to.
https://www.crisesnotes.com

[Winehole23]

very dangerous, unprecedentedly radical

[Winehole23]

"we'll just dissolve the US government and reboot it"


“Regulations, basically, should be default gone,” Musk said. “Not default there, default gone. And if it turns out that we missed the mark on a regulation, we can always add it back in.”

[Blake]

Google.com

Chicken

[Spurs Homer]

idiots...


https://youtu.be/RIHNlUygxlI?si=gVSx1-JmAd8hDXrK

[Thread]

very dangerous, unprecedentedly radical

Gonna have to stand down again, eh, dad?

[Thread]

idiots...


https://youtu.be/RIHNlUygxlI?si=gVSx1-JmAd8hDXrK

Afternoon, fart-face.

[ElNono]

Afternoon, fart-face.

I think Musk is a mole, Dale. I don't know, call it a conspiracy, whatever. I think he's just there to get his ROI. I guess time will tell.

[ChumpDumper]

My conspiracy theory is Musk is going to use his entre into the federal government revenue and payment systems to goose his financial plans for Twitter.

[Yonivore]

My conspiracy theory is Musk is going to use his entre into the federal government revenue and payment systems to goose his financial plans for Twitter.
My conspiracy theory is DOGE is dismantling the CIA slush fund and USAID and is preserving evidence to send people to prison.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/usaidfundswuhan.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

My conspiracy theory is DOGE is dismantling the CIA slush fund and USAID and is preserving evidence to send people to prison.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/usaidfundswuhan.jpgHow much did Ivanka profit off the USAID slush fund during Trump's first presidency since Trump budgeted $100,000,000 for her through USAID in one year?

Give me a ballpark figure.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Ace of Spades blog

[Yonivore]

:lmao Ace of Spades blog
Actually, that's Biden's GAO in 2023.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, that's Biden's GAO in 2023.Filtered through your blog.

What's your conspiracy theory here?

You never actually say it.

And how much did Ivanka profit from President Trump's USAID slush fund?

Where's Ace of Spades graphic for that?

[Yonivore]

How much did Ivanka profit off the USAID slush fund during Trump's first presidency since Trump budgeted $100,000,000 for her through USAID in one year?

Give me a ballpark figure.
I don't know that she personally profited anything.

What do you have against women?

Ivanka Trump plans global women’s economic development push (https://apnews.com/united-states-government-3daa485acfd541d3b3e626ceaacd906f)

She didn't have a paid position. In fact, it probably cost her personally to conduct the activities of promoting and advocating for the program, globally.

Do you have evidence she received USAID funds in her pocket? I can't find anyone even alleging that, anywhere on the internet -- except for you.

Seriously, why do you hate women?

[SnakeBoy]

1886855254299365803

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know that she personally profited anything.

What do you have against women?

Ivanka Trump plans global women’s economic development push (https://apnews.com/united-states-government-3daa485acfd541d3b3e626ceaacd906f)

She didn't have a paid position. In fact, it probably cost her personally to conduct the activities of promoting and advocating for the program, globally.

Do you have evidence she received USAID funds in her pocket? I can't find anyone even alleging that, anywhere on the internet -- except for you.

Seriously, why do you hate women?It's your conspiracy theory.

Your clear implication is that USAID was a CIA slush fund. That has to include Trump's USAID.

If it's not, you need to make that clear.

Was Trump's USAID a CIA slush fund?

Yes or no.

[Yonivore]

Filtered through your blog.
A graphic pulled from the GAO. You suggesting they mocked that up and attributed it to the General Accounting Office? Why?


What's your conspiracy theory here?

You never actually say it.
I don't have one. It just demonstrates NIH and USAID money were being funneled to the Chinese and, particularly, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.


And how much did Ivanka profit from President Trump's USAID slush fund?
I'm saying zero.


Where's Ace of Spades graphic for that?
Where's your proof she did. Making up defamatory allegation, our of whole cloth, is actionable. Ask the ladies of The View and George Stephanopoulos.

[ChumpDumper]

A graphic pulled from the GAO. You suggesting they mocked that up and attributed it to the General Accounting Office? Why?


I don't have one. It just demonstrates NIH and USAID money were being funneled to the Chinese and, particularly, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.Which means what?



I'm saying zero.


Where's your proof she did. Making up defamatory allegation, our of whole cloth, is actionable. Ask the ladies of The View and George Stephanopoulos.:lol let Ivanka sue me then. I'm sure you have her number, right?

[Yonivore]

1886855254299365803
Not a fan but, he makes a valid point...hilariously.

[Blake]

My conspiracy theory is DOGE is dismantling the CIA slush fund and USAID and is preserving evidence to send people to prison.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/usaidfundswuhan.jpg

Lol still thinking Covid is a conspiracy

[SnakeBoy]

No wonder Never Trumper pigs like Bill Kristol are squealing

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[Blake]

I can't wait to see how you tards would react if Tesla suddenly gets a military contract to make a bunch of those minivans for them.

[Yonivore]

Lol still thinking Covid is a conspiracy
Who said it was a conspiracy?

USAID and NIH were funding gain of function research at WIV. And, now we know, thanks to Biden's CIA, that the pandemic likely started with a lab leak at WIV.

Not a conspiracy but, at the very least, something Anthony Fauci, Samantha Power, and that Duszak guy should answer for.

[ChumpDumper]

No wonder Never Trumper pigs like Bill Kristol are squealing

1886647920566636637

A teaser of what?

[ChumpDumper]

Who said it was a conspiracy?

USAID and NIH were funding gain of function research at WIV. And, now we know, thanks to Biden's CIA, that the pandemic likely started with a lab leak at WIV.

Not a conspiracy but, at the very least, something Anthony Fauci, Samantha Power, and that Duszak guy should answer for.

The graphic says 2014-2021. How much of Trump's CIA slush fund went to these places in calendar years 2017-2020?

[Blake]

Who said it was a conspiracy?

USAID and NIH were funding gain of function research at WIV. And, now we know, thanks to Biden's CIA, that the pandemic likely started with a lab leak at WIV.

Not a conspiracy but, at the very least, something Anthony Fauci, Samantha Power, and that Duszak guy should answer for.

Lol "thanks to Biden's CIA"

You conspiracy nuts are awesome in that you miss the felon doing felon work right in front of your faces. Or you don't care because he's getting rid of the "shadow government"

Or something like that..

[Yonivore]

The graphic says 2014-2021. How much of Trump's CIA slush fund went to these places in calendar years 2017-2020?
Too much. When you've got traitors like Mike Pompeo and Anthony Fauci running cover, it's hard to discover some fraud. I think Trump is the first to admit he was played by the Deep State in his first term. Not this time, though.

[Winehole23]

what a relief!

President Trump isn't responsible for any of his screw-ups from 2017-2020...it's all the Deep State's fault!

[SnakeBoy]

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[ChumpDumper]

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I don't think it was big at all.

So much hype. Typical.

[ChumpDumper]

what a relief!

President Trump isn't responsible for any of his screw-ups from 2017-2020...it's all the Deep State's fault!

Funny how that works for his hero.

[Winehole23]

bottom up pressure works too


If you have ever received treasury payments - tax returns, student loans, financial aid, social security, etc. Call your bank, mortgage company, credit card company, university. Express concerns about the federal personal data breach. Ask how they will protect your information.

[SnakeBoy]

bottom up pressure works too

Who did you call?

[Winehole23]

Who did you call?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTkxMjYyNzgwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTE3MjYyMTE@._ V1_.jpg

[Winehole23]

"In private communications last week, a DOGE representative asked the most senior Treasury career official to halt foreign aid payments that Musk allies believed violated Trump’s executive orders, two people familiar with the matter said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/04/elon-musk-government-legal-doge/

[ducks]

Who elected Anthony Fauci?

[ducks]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/04/elon-musk-government-legal-doge/

Good

[ducks]

Democrats cheered the hiring of 87,000 IRS agents to conduct more audits of individual tax payers — that’s you and me — but they oppose an aggressive audit of our taxpayer money the government is actually spending. What sense does that make?

They even got a free gun !
All those have your personal data !

[Thread]

Who elected Anthony Fauci?

ducks, blasting hair all over them walls.

ducks

[Thread]

Democrats cheered the hiring of 87,000 IRS agents to conduct more audits of individual tax payers — that’s you and me — but they oppose an aggressive audit of our taxpayer money the government is actually spending. What sense does that make?

They even got a free gun !
All those have your personal data !

ducks, testifying night & day.

ducks

[ElNono]

Who elected Anthony Fauci?

Ronald Reagan. Remember that guy?

[ChumpDumper]

Democrats cheered the hiring of 87,000 IRS agents to conduct more audits of individual tax payers — that’s you and me — but they oppose an aggressive audit of our taxpayer money the government is actually spending. What sense does that make?

They even got a free gun !
All those have your personal data !And there were safeguards against the misuse of that data.

Who is overseeing Elon's teen squad?

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.usaid.gov/

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.usaid.gov/

snacks loves him some Ebola

[Winehole23]

will El0n have enough sensitive information to blackmail the USA when he's done?

honest question


Staffers with Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) reportedly (https://www.axios.com/2025/02/04/trump-nominates-noaa-head-neil-jacobs) entered the headquarters of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (https://www.noaa.gov/) (Noaa) in Silver Spring, Maryland, and the Department of Commerce in Washington DC today, inciting concerns of downsizing at the agency.


“They apparently just sort of walked past security and said: ‘Get out of my way,’ and they’re looking for access for the IT systems, as they have in other agencies,” said Andrew Rosenberg, a former Noaa official who is now a fellow at the University of New Hampshire. “They will have access to the entire computer system, a lot of which is confidential information.”



Project 2025 (https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf#page=707), written by several former Trump staffers, has called for the agency to be “broken up and downsized”, claiming the agency is “harmful to US prosperity” for its role in climate science.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/04/doge-noaa-headquarters

[ChumpDumper]

Elon declares war on weather.

[Yonivore]

what a relief!

President Trump isn't responsible for any of his screw-ups from 2017-2020...it's all the Deep State's fault!
I disagree. He is responsible. But, thank God, he's rectifying the situation this term.

[Yonivore]

https://www.usaid.gov/

It's like Christmas, every time I see a headline.

[Yonivore]

will El0n have enough sensitive information to blackmail the USA when he's done?

honest question
He'll have no more than the unelected unknown bureaucrats that already had access to that information.

I would suggest he's less likely to misuse it because, people like you and Chuck Schumer will be watching. Thank you for your service.

[Winehole23]

that's hilarious, you don't really believe that

[ChumpDumper]

He'll have no more than the unelected unknown bureaucrats that already had access to that information.The ones that had background checks and security clearances and actual oversight?

Who is overseeing Elon's child army?

[ChumpDumper]

that's hilarious, you don't really believe that

He only believes in Trump.

The way he used to believe in W.

Dude needs a daddeh.

[Yonivore]

The ones that had background checks and security clearances and actual oversight?
Elon has had a background check and has security clearance.


Who is overseeing Elon's child army?
:lmao "Child Army." But, to answer your question, Elon is overseeing the Department of Government Efficiency.

[ChumpDumper]

Elon has had a background check and has security clearance.Does everyone in his child army?

Where is all this information stored?

Who has copies?



:lmao "Child Army." But, to answer your question, Elon is overseeing the Department of Government Efficiency.
Who is overseeing Elon?

Explain how it all works.

[Yonivore]

Does everyone in his child army?

Where is all this information stored?

Who has copies?
I don't know. You're asking the wrong person.


Who is overseeing Elon?

Explain how it all works.
My understanding is the Department of Government Efficiency answers directly to the President.

First, you explain how my money ended up paying for a transgender opera in South America.

What's your conspiracy theory, Chump? Where is the all going?

The way I see it; it's all leading to a leaner more accountable government.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know. You're asking the wrong person.
No shit.

My understanding is the Department of Government Efficiency answers directly to the President.Which means what?

What would Trump know about any of this? This is just Project 2025 stuff he claimed to not know anything about. Was he lying?


First, you explain how my money ended up paying for a transgender opera in South America.Did your blog tell you this happened? Are you outraged?


The way I see it; it's all leading to a leaner more accountable government.
Accountable to whom?

How can anyone know what's actually happening?

[Yonivore]

No shit.
Which means what?

What would Trump know about any of this? This is just Project 2025 stuff he claimed to not know anything about. Was he lying?

Did your blog tell you this happened? Are you outraged?


Accountable to whom?

How can anyone know what's actually happening?
You have no idea how much I'm enjoying seeing you so exercised.

I suspect I'll be satisfied for the next 4 years. You, on the other hand, probably won't be. You can count on me poking you every time we win again.

Do I think President Trump and Elon Musk are up to something nefarious or illegal. No. I don't.

Reigning in wasteful government spending by the likes of USAID, the Treasury, IRS, USPS, Education, etc... is exactly what I signed up for. Watching people bitch about it is just icing on the cake.

[ChumpDumper]

You have no idea how much I'm enjoying seeing you so exercised.

I suspect I'll be satisfied for the next 4 years. You, on the other hand, probably won't be. You can count on me poking you every time we win again.

Do I think President Trump and Elon Musk are up to something nefarious or illegal. No. I don't.

Reigning in wasteful government spending by the likes of USAID, the Treasury, IRS, USPS, Education, etc... is exactly what I signed up for. Watching people bitch about it is just icing on the cake."What could go wrong?"

You simply take these people at their word. These are not honest people. They're grifters and you need to make them heroes.

You're the worst frontrunner here. You spent all your time worshiping W too. Are they still translating the documents?

[Yonivore]

"What could go wrong?"

You simply take these people at their word. These are not honest people. They're grifters and you need to make them heroes.

You're the worst frontrunner here. You spent all your time worshiping W too. Are they still translating the documents?
So, serious question here. Who would you prefer be President right now.

[ChumpDumper]

So, serious question here. Who would you prefer be President right now.Almost anyone but Trump. He brings out the worst in his cult members.

You voted for ethnic cleansing of 2 million people?

OK.

[Yonivore]

Almost anyone but Trump.
Anyone?


You voted for ethnic cleansing of 2 million people?

OK.
How so?

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, every time you morons win by any margin, you think you have a mandate from God to do "big things" and all you and up doing is crashing the economy, making things worse for the poor and middle class, and destroying the reputation of and respect for the US in the rest of the world.

[ChumpDumper]

Anyone?Almost.



How so?
Where are the 2 million Gazans going to go?

The US territory of Mar-a-Gaza?

[Yonivore]

Seriously, every time you morons win by any margin, you think you have a mandate from God to do "big things" and all you and up doing is crashing the economy, making things worse for the poor and middle class, and destroying the reputation of and respect for the US in the rest of the world.
I don't see it that way.

And, President Trump is doing big things, just like he promised. I think, at the end of this term, the United States of America will be safer, stronger, and wealthier. It'll certainly be better off than we were on January 19, 2025.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't see it that way.No shit.


And, President Trump is doing big things, just like he promised. I think, at the end of this term, the United States of America will be safer, stronger, and wealthier. It'll certainly be better off than we were on January 19, 2025.We sure weren't after his first term.

We sure weren't after your other hero Rushmore W's term.

[Yonivore]

Almost.
You can't name anyone? Figures.


Where are the 2 million Gazans going to go?
Looks like they'll be headed to Egypt, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia until the reconstruction is done. According to our President, the Gaza Strip will need to be razed and rebuilt. Not much of an environment for healthy living.


The US territory of Mar-a-Gaza?
Sure, why not?

[ChumpDumper]

You can't name anyone? Figures.I don't need to. It does figure.


Looks like they'll be headed to Egypt, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia until the reconstruction is done. According to our President, the Gaza Strip will need to be razed and rebuilt. Not much of an environment for healthy living.So they'll be allowed back when it's ready with all their new homes you paid to build?

[Yonivore]

No shit.

We sure weren't after his first term.
He knows that.


We sure weren't after your other hero Rushmore W's term.
At the risk of opening up a whole new line of haranguing from you, My opinion of George W. Bush has changed a bit.

[Yonivore]

I don't need to. It does figure.
Sure you do. I'd like to know who you think would be the ideal President for this Country, at this time in history.


So they'll be allowed back when it's ready with all their new homes you paid to build?
If they're willing to abandon their idiotic ideology of driving Israel into the sea and quite chanting Death to America, sure. I don't know who's going to pay for it.

[ChumpDumper]

He knows that.But THIS TIME!


At the risk of opening up a whole new line of haranguing from you, My opinion of George W. Bush has changed a bit.Oh has it now?

What is your opinion of him of him now and what made you change your mind?

[ChumpDumper]

Sure you do. I'd like to know who you think would be the ideal President for this Country, at this time in history.I don't think there is an ideal president. I don't need a hero like you.


If they're willing to abandon their idiotic ideology of driving Israel into the sea and quite chanting Death to America, sure.
Did all 2 million say that?


I don't know who's going to pay for it.
Oh really? Trump said we own it. You said we would buy it. How would we not pay for it?

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j7tdfjsbop2oq7cghfbdwvqq/bafkreiggp4ux5cafgngvgkgtctsr64zhozwt33bs57bviyoco iakqcyvr4@jpeg

[GAustex]

Can some one help clarify

I read but can’t believe that Politico did not make payroll that past pay period.

How can that be?

Thanks

[ChumpDumper]

What's a Politico?

[GAustex]

Lol

[ElNono]

So, serious question here. Who would you prefer be President right now.

I would take even a carboard cutout of Lebron James... right up there with a lawn chair.

Both have substantially better odds of not running the country to the ground like the last two GOP presidents, and there would be no doubt democracy is safe.

Now, Lebron being a black man, I understand his cardboard cutout might trigger conservatives, tbh.

[ElNono]

Can some one help clarify

I read but can’t believe that Politico did not make payroll that past pay period.

How can that be?

Thanks

You mean, this? That's not "not making payroll"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gi8tjLlWkAAZ6c6?format=jpg&name=medium

[ChumpDumper]

Can some one help clarify

I read but can’t believe that Politico did not make payroll that past pay period.

How can that be?

Thanks

Your Trump managed to shut down the entire Medicaid payment system.

How can that be?

[GAustex]

You mean, this? That's not "not making payroll"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gi8tjLlWkAAZ6c6?format=jpg&name=medium

It just seems odd

[ElNono]

It just seems odd

I don't know, tbh... wouldn't be surprised if we need to reboot our toothbrushes soon.

[SnakeBoy]

Who is overseeing Elon's teen squad?

Your President

[ChumpDumper]

Your President

How?

[Winehole23]

A power-mad president possessed of radical theories of executive authority and convinced of his own royal prerogative has given de facto control of most of the federal government to one of the richest men on the planet, if not the richest, whose own interests are tangled up (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/20/us/politics/elon-musk-federal-agencies-contracts.html) in those of rival governments and foreign autocracies as well as the United States. The public has no guarantee that its most sensitive data is secure. At best, they have the personal word of Donald Trump, which, paired with a few dollars, might buy you a cup of coffee.

The only institution capable of responding to this with any alacrity is Congress. But Congress is also led by Republicans, and both the Senate majority leader, John Thune, and the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, have declined to take any steps to arrest the president’s illegal arrogation of power or Musk’s destructive effort to run the federal government. Thune and Johnson, acting with the support of Republicans in both chambers, have, in effect, renounced their power over the purse and abnegated their powers of oversight. Their Congress is supine, submissive and subordinate, less the equal of the president than a tool of the executive branch — a subject of his will.

[Winehole23]

Can some one help clarify

I read but can’t believe that Politico did not make payroll that past pay period.

How can that be?

Thanksstiffing employees?

emulating the great man, perhaps

htps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/politico-owner-pray-for-trump-mathias-dopfner-axel-springer-1234587243/

[Winehole23]

if El0n has to be reminded he reports to Susie Wiles, he's been doing shit behind their backs

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/elon-musk-white-house-reminder-power-not-unchecked-rcna190659

[TSA]

stiffing employees?

emulating the great man, perhaps

htps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/politico-owner-pray-for-trump-mathias-dopfner-axel-springer-1234587243/

https://x.com/adamscrabble/status/1887001251168047458

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/adamscrabble/status/1887001251168047458
The Gravy Train has pulled into the station and everyone is being asked to get out.

[GAustex]

The Gravy Train has pulled into the station and everyone is being asked to get out.
Wait
What?

How is USAID related to Politico?

[TSA]

https://x.com/amuse/status/1887099759569035337

[DarrinS]

1886990843141075353

[ChumpDumper]

Would you guys have been cool with Soros doing all this?

[TSA]

Would you guys have been cool with Soros doing all this?

Doing all what?

[ChumpDumper]

Bad now.

1886977688721666153

https://x.com/_Almaqah/status/1886977688721666153

Again, Ivanka was the most high profile person attached to USAID and she headed (or at least was the face of) several multimillion dollar initiatives.

Was she evil too or was everything sweetness and light when a Trump was involved?

[ChumpDumper]

Doing all what?

Dodge #2.

All the things Elon Musk is doing in this "DOGE" business.

[TSA]

Dodge #2.

All the things Elon Musk is doing in this "DOGE" business.

Asking for clarification to you extremely vague questions in not dodging no matter how many times you try and say it is.

Elon and "DOGE" are doing a lot of things, what specifically are you asking about?

[ChumpDumper]

Asking for clarification to you extremely vague questions in not dodging no matter how many times you try and say it is.

Elon and "DOGE" are doing a lot of things, what specifically are you asking about?
Dodge #3

This is sad.

Great. If Soros assembled a team of kids and got access to all the payment information from the Department of Treasury (including yours and your family's and that of your business and any Soros competitor or perceived enemy) and was able to keep and read any of it at any time, would you approve?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll just preemptively put Dodge #4 up here.

Will edit if TSA surprises.

[TSA]

Dodge #3

This is sad.
Asking for clarification to you extremely vague questions in not dodging no matter how many times you try and say it is.

Hey there we go you finally asked a specific question.


Great. If Soros assembled a team of kids and got access to all the payment information from the Department of Treasury (including yours and your family's and that of your business and any Soros competitor or perceived enemy) and was able to keep and read any of it at any time, would you approve?

Yes or no.

If Soros assembled a team to run audits and cut back on wasteful spending, yes, I would approve.

“I didn’t vote for Elon Musk and his autistic tech bros to get a line-item veto on federal spending!”

Yeah well I didn’t vote for Joe Biden’s non-binary Deep State theater kids to get a blank check to give my tax dollars to fringe left-wing NGO slush funds for four years, but that’s exactly what happened.

Elections have consequences, one of which being the president of the United States—the CEO of the executive branch—gets to make personnel appointments across the administrative state.

https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1886455700454269087

[ChumpDumper]

Hey there we go you finally asked a specific question.



If Soros assembled a team to run audits and cut back on wasteful spending, yes, I would approve.

“I didn’t vote for Elon Musk and his autistic tech bros to get a line-item veto on federal spending!”

Yeah well I didn’t vote for Joe Biden’s non-binary Deep State theater kids to get a blank check to give my tax dollars to fringe left-wing NGO slush funds for four years, but that’s exactly what happened.

Elections have consequences, one of which being the president of the United States—the CEO of the executive branch—gets to make personnel appointments across the administrative state.

https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1886455700454269087

Dodge #4 stands.

You didn't answer the question. You constructed several straw men.

Sad.