Enemy of the people: Elon Musk

[Yonivore]

:lmao the publication requirement in Section 685 specifically applies to messages sent under Sections 683 and 684

Can you even read?
Can you read?

Who Has to Publish in the Federal Register?
The Comptroller General (GAO). If the GAO finds that an impoundment (rescission or deferral) violates the ICA, it must report it to Congress and publish it in the Federal Register.
This is a watchdog mechanism to ensure transparency after a violation has been found.

The President is only required to notify Congress. The law does not require the President's notification to be published in the Federal Register.

The Impoundment Control Act distinguishes between executive and legislative oversight roles.

The President's role is to request recissions or deferrals by formally notifying Congress.

The Congress's role (via the GAO) is to review whether the President is complying with the ICA and, if found to be in violation of the ICA - the GAO must then report THAT to Congress and publish in the Federal Register, 2 U.S.C. § 685(d).

[ChumpDumper]

Can you read?

Who Has to Publish in the Federal Register?
The Comptroller General (GAO). If the GAO finds that an impoundment (rescission or deferral) violates the ICA, it must report it to Congress and publish it in the Federal Register.
This is a watchdog mechanism to ensure transparency after a violation has been found.

The President is only required to notify Congress. The law does not require the President's notification to be published in the Federal Register.

The Impoundment Control Act distinguishes between executive and legislative oversight roles.

The President's role is to request recissions or deferrals by formally notifying Congress.

The Congress's role (via the GAO) is to review whether the President is complying with the ICA and, if found to be in violation of the ICA - the GAO must then report THAT to Congress and publish in the Federal Register, 2 U.S.C. § 685(d).

(d) Printing in Federal Register
Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

Where does it say "nuh-uh"?

[Yonivore]

(d) Printing in Federal Register
Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

Where does it say "nuh-uh"?
Which is the responsibility of the GAO. You should be barking up their tree, Chump.

[ChumpDumper]

Which is the responsibility of the GAO. You should be barking up their tree, Chump.Your claim is the GAO is breaking the law?

What's your conspiracy theory here?

[Yonivore]

Your claim is the GAO is breaking the law?

What's your conspiracy theory here?
Nope. Never said that.

I've contended the notice doesn't have to be published and it's the GAO that tasked with publishing anything that is required to be published. It's also their responsibility to report (and publish in the Federal Register) any violation of the ICA. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just facts.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. Never said that.

I've contended the notice doesn't have to be publishedAnd you were completely wrong.

(d) Printing in Federal Register
Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.

Either the GAO is violating the law for no reason or there is no special message.

[ChumpDumper]

If there's a special message from Trump following the provisions of the ICA out there, I'd love to see it and I'll admit all my complaining was for naught.

[Blake]

And, there's your problem. "Probably" isn't a legal position.

One of your problems is "my understanding"

[ChumpDumper]

Historically there has been no secrecy at all with actions taken by the president under the auspices of the ICA. Indeed, transparency is a requirement.

I looked back to an example in the Federal Register for such an action by Diamond Bill Clinton in 1996 -- it literally says "CONTENTS OF SPECIAL MESSAGE" in the relevant section for the OMB. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. Never said that.

I've contended the notice doesn't have to be published and it's the GAO that tasked with publishing anything that is required to be published. It's also their responsibility to report (and publish in the Federal Register) any violation of the ICA. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just facts.

Looks like the process has started; at least some lip service.

If the funding pause is eventually allowed to proceed by the court, it could face other resistance. The comptroller general, the head of the Government Accountability Office, must report to Congress when a withholding of federal funds has taken place and the executive branch fails to send its own notification, or “special message.” After the Office of Management and Budget on Monday ordered federal agencies to freeze federal spending on grants and loans, while allowing for an array of carve outs and exempting programs that provide direct assistance to individuals, a GAO official told Government Executive it is examining the manner.

“GAO is examining the steps and information needed to determine if there are any Impoundment Act issues with respect to the administration’s actions to pause funds,” the official said, referring to the 1974 Impoundment Control Act. “GAO also has authority under the ICA to review potential impoundments.”

https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2025/01/governments-top-watchdog-reviewing-whether-trumps-funding-freeze-legal/402563/

"just facts"

[ChumpDumper]

He was only off by 3700 miles. We should continue to have complete confidence in this man from southern Africa where Mozambique is.

1889430491914445045

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1889430491914445045

[Blake]

"Some of the things I say will be incorrect..."

No shit.

[Winehole23]

dude looks high as fuck in the Oval Office


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:tmc3ivmm6e55wex4qunui4ld/bafkreibzd454qoibvi3fnbyimn5z3h256b7v52rhhj2kvj2rl gupybbg6u@jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

they're not crazy about him


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[DarrinS]

1889400538950725667

[Blake]

1889400538950725667

Lol what does a guy with $400 billion want? $500 billion.

[Yonivore]

Because of what he calls the "woke mind virus," Elon claims he lost a son.

It's not the money...


"I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that, and we’re making some progress."

[DarrinS]

1889300375716483354

[Winehole23]

EFF lawsuit


The Plaintiffs who have stepped forward to bring this lawsuit include individual federal employees as well as multiple employee unions, including the American Federation of Government Employees and the Association of Administrative Law Judges.

This brazen ransacking (https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-lackeys-office-personnel-management-opm-neuralink-x-boring-stalin/) of Americans’ sensitive data is unheard of in scale. With our co-counsel Lex Lumina, State Democracy Defenders Fund, and the Chandra Law Firm, we represent current and former federal employees whose privacy has been violated. We are asking the court for a temporary restraining order to immediately cease this dangerous and illegal intrusion. This massive trove of information includes private demographic data and work histories of essentially all current and former federal employees and contractors as well as federal job applicants. Access is restricted by the federal Privacy Act of 1974. Last week, a federal judge temporarily blocked DOGE from accessing a critical Treasury payment system under a similar lawsuit (https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/trump-sued-by-democrat-states-over-musk-access-to-treasury-data).

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/eff-sues-doge-and-office-personnel-management-halt-ransacking-federal-data

[ChumpDumper]

Because of what he calls the "woke mind virus," Elon claims he lost a son.

It's not the money...

Is the son dead?

Elon was probably playing too much video games.

[ChumpDumper]

1889400538950725667

Then he won't mind actual transparency, will he Darrin?

[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

:lol both yoni and Darrin highlighting the personal grievances of Elon and Trump.

Divorced dads need their proxies.

[DarrinS]

The guy who donates starlink terminals to hurricane victims and rescues stranded astronauts is actually an evil Bond villain. :lmao

[Winehole23]

https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/...g%20021025.pdf (https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/USAID%20OIG%20-%20Oversight%20of%20USAID-Funded%20Humanitarian%20Assistance%20Programming%2 0021025.pdf)as expected,


The White House fired the inspector general for the U.S. Agency for International Development on Tuesday, several U.S. officials said. The dismissal comes a day after his office warned that the Trump administration’s dismantling of USAID had made it all but impossible to monitor $8.2 billion in unspent humanitarian funds.

The White House gave no reason for the firing of Inspector General Paul Martin, one of the officials said.




https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/USAID%20OIG%20-%20Oversight%20of%20USAID-Funded%20Humanitarian%20Assistance%20Programming%2 0021025.pdf

[Winehole23]

Bruce Schneier sees direct threats to national security


The security implications span three critical areas.


First, system manipulation: External operators can now modify operations while also altering audit trails that would track their changes. Second, data exposure: Beyond accessing personal information and transaction records, these operators can copy entire system architectures and security configurations—in one case, the technical blueprint of the country’s federal payment infrastructure. Third, and most critically, is the issue of system control: These operators can alter core systems and authentication mechanisms while disabling the very tools designed to detect such changes. This is more than modifying operations; it is modifying the infrastructure that those operations use.




To address these vulnerabilities, three immediate steps are essential. First, unauthorized access must be revoked and proper authentication protocols restored. Next, comprehensive system monitoring and change management must be reinstated—which, given the difficulty of cleaning a compromised system, will likely require a complete system reset. Finally, thorough audits must be conducted of all system changes made during this period.


This is beyond politics—this is a matter of national security. Foreign national intelligence organizations will be quick to take advantage of both the chaos and the new insecurities to steal U.S. data and install backdoors to allow for future access.


Each day of continued unrestricted access makes the eventual recovery more difficult and increases the risk of irreversible damage to these critical systems. While the full impact may take time to assess, these steps represent the minimum necessary actions to begin restoring system integrity and security protocols.





https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/11/doge-cyberattack-united-states-treasury/

[SnakeBoy]

Bruce Schneier sees direct threats to national security


https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/11/doge-cyberattack-united-states-treasury/

https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/styles/teaser/public/2020-09/VBabutsPhoto_Bruce-Schneier_02.jpg.webp?itok=vEirqlRG

[DarrinS]

https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/styles/teaser/public/2020-09/VBabutsPhoto_Bruce-Schneier_02.jpg.webp?itok=vEirqlRG

:lmao

[GAustex]

https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/styles/teaser/public/2020-09/VBabutsPhoto_Bruce-Schneier_02.jpg.webp?itok=vEirqlRG
Lol

[Winehole23]

Schneier on Security is well-respected


Bruce Schneier (/ˈʃnaɪ.ər/ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English); born January 15, 1963) is an American cryptographer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographer), computer security (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_security) professional, privacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy) specialist, and writer. Schneier is an Adjunct Lecturer in Public Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Kennedy_School)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#cite_note-2) and a Fellow at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkman_Klein_Center_for_Internet_%26_Society) as of November, 2013.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#cite_note-3) He is a board member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation), Access Now (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Now), and The Tor Project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tor_Project); and an advisory board member of Electronic Privacy Information Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Privacy_Information_Center) and VerifiedVoting.org (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VerifiedVoting.org). He is the author of several books on general security (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security) topics, computer security and cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptography) and is a squid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid) enthusiast.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#cite_note-4)
In 2015, Schneier received the EPIC Lifetime Achievement Award from Electronic Privacy Information Center.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#cite_note-5)

[Winehole23]

the youthful indiscretions of Big Balls


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[ChumpDumper]

The guy who donates starlink terminals to hurricane victims and rescues stranded astronauts is actually an evil Bond villain. :lmao

"donates"

[DarrinS]

M U S K W A T C H . C O M

[Winehole23]

Trump puts El0n in charge of mass firings


This hiring plan shall include that new career appointment hiring decisions shall be made in consultation with the agency’s DOGE Team Lead, consistent with applicable law.
(ii) The agency shall not fill any vacancies for career appointments that the DOGE Team Lead assesses should not be filled, unless the Agency Head determines the positions should be filled.
(iii) Each DOGE Team Lead shall provide the United States DOGE Service (USDS) Administrator with a monthly hiring report for the agency.
(c) Reductions in Force. Agency Heads shall promptly undertake preparations to initiate large-scale reductions in force (RIFs), consistent with applicable law, and to separate from Federal service temporary employees and reemployed annuitants working in areas that will likely be subject to the RIFs. All offices that perform functions not mandated by statute or other law shall be prioritized in the RIFs, including all agency diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives; all agency initiatives, components, or operations that my Administration suspends or closes; and all components and employees performing functions not mandated by statute or other law who are not typically designated as essential during a lapse in appropriations as provided in the Agency Contingency Plans on the Office of Management and Budget website. This subsection shall not apply to functions related to public safety, immigration enforcement, or law enforcement.

Implementing The President's "Department of Government Efficiency" Workforce Optimization Initiative – The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative/)

[Winehole23]

M U S K W A T C H . C O Mthe reporter has bylines at outlets you've heard of

[Winehole23]

El0n doesn't belong there.

I know he paid to be, but that doesn't make it right.


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[SnakeBoy]

El0n doesn't belong there.

I know he paid to be, but that doesn't make it right.


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Trump just sitting there thinking about all the lib tears

Brilliant move tbh

[Winehole23]

Trump just sitting there thinking about all the lib tears

Brilliant move tbhTrump seemed kind of listless and weak, what does he need El0n there for?

[Winehole23]

plausible


they're attempting to create (http://ttps://bsky.app/profile/gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social/post/3lhx34wdbm22f) what functionally amounts to a dual power structure of political commissars who have power over congressionally approved heads of federal agencies

[Winehole23]

the funding pause now has a death toll, as reported by the Tory Telegraph


A 71-year-old woman has died after her oxygen supply was cut off when the United States announced a freeze on aid funding.

Pe Kha Lau, a refugee from Myanmar living in a displacement camp in neighbouring Thailand, died four days after she was discharged from a USAID-funded healthcare facility operated by the International Rescue Committee (IRC).

She is thought to be one of the first people to have died as a direct result of Washington’s decision to freeze all funding for aid projects for 90 days (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/musk-and-trump-begin-shutting-down-usaid/).

Her family told Reuters that she had frequently been sent to hospital in the last three years as she was dependent on a supply of oxygen, but was sent home after the IRC received a “stop-work” order in late January.

The organisation operates clinics that cater to roughly 80,000 people in nine refugee camps close to the Myanmar border, but abruptly closed and locked seven out of its nine hospitals to comply with the uncompromising US directive. The agency may be subject to an exemption as it offers lifesaving assistance, but it is not yet clear when a waiver could be issued.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/us-aid-freeze-claims-first-victims-as-oxygen-supplies-cut/

[Winehole23]

plausible


they're attempting to create (http://ttps//bsky.app/profile/gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social/post/3lhx34wdbm22f) what functionally amounts to a dual power structure of political commissars who have power over congressionally approved heads of federal agencies



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[GAustex]

"They are getting wealthy at the taxpayers expense "

[DarrinS]

:lmao at the El0n hysteria

[Winehole23]

Trump puts El0n in charge of mass firings



Implementing The President's "Department of Government Efficiency" Workforce Optimization Initiative – The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative/)agency heads are responsible to and must submit plans in consultation with DOGE

El0n really is like a commissar

[Winehole23]

:lmao at the El0n hysteriaI feel just fine, thanks for asking.

I've always been a frequent poster -- we're living in interesting times

Trump creates a lot of chaos

[DarrinS]

Russia Russia Russia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-bgiiTxhzM

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

^ what is this?

[DarrinS]

At least she has a mask on, while alone, outdoors. :lmao

[Winehole23]

this is hilariously inept

and illegal


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[Winehole23]

^ what is this?https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1356315137976672259

[ChumpDumper]

Trump just sitting there thinking about all the lib tears

Brilliant move tbh

Can't even stand.

Weak.

[DarrinS]

https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1356315137976672259

Lol, retard

[Winehole23]

stay classy, Darrin

[Winehole23]

Imagine George Soros had given $290 million to Joe Biden to be a deep state commissar controlling spending, HR and GSA government leases.

That's basically what we're dealing with.

[ChumpDumper]

stay classy, Darrin

He still really wants to say the N word.

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Imagine George Soros had given $290 million to Joe Biden to be a deep state commissar controlling spending, HR and GSA government leases.

That's basically what we're dealing with.

Imagine

[Winehole23]

Imagineno need to

[Blake]

Because of what he calls the "woke mind virus," Elon claims he lost a son.

It's not the money...

Oh so the woke mind virus is why he wants to "look for government waste" in the Treasury dept

Sure

[DarrinS]

He still really wants to say the N word.

Not really. Y'all took the air out of that word. Meaningless

[Winehole23]

more goodies for El0n on the public dime

he's starting to get his money's worth


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[DarrinS]

How will the children sleep tonight?

[Blake]

How will the children sleep tonight?

In a pool of sweet lib tears

[ChumpDumper]

Not really. Y'all took the air out of that word. Meaningless

Sour grapes.

[ChumpDumper]

How will the children sleep tonight?

Which children?

[DarrinS]

Sour grapes.

"He really wants to say the N word"

So dumb

[ChumpDumper]

"He really wants to say the N word"

So dumbNot really.

You're bitter about nearly everything.

What's your biggest personal grievance?

[DarrinS]

Not really.

You're bitter about nearly everything.

What's your biggest personal grievance?

You're stupid

[ChumpDumper]

You're stupidYou're drunk and stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll give this to Yoni, he at least tried to discuss politics before he discovered he was wrong about everything he posted.

[DarrinS]

I'll give this to Yoni, he at least tried to discuss politics before he discovered he was wrong about everything he posted.

Your side has been wrong about everything for the past 8-10 years.

[DarrinS]

Literally, everything

[ChumpDumper]

Your side has been wrong about everything for the past 8-10 years.Nah.

Once you start thinking people on your side are never wrong, you're in a cult.

[DarrinS]

Nah.

Once you start thinking people on your side are never wrong, you're in a cult.

You didn't have an answer. Sad

[Winehole23]

Literally, everythingsimple thoughts for simple minds

[Thread]

simple thoughts for simple minds

We had 1 aim,,,get Harris.

[DarrinS]

That's why trump won the popular vote. Most people dislike you, a lot.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't have an answer. SadAnswer to what?


Do you have a question?

Use your words.

[ChumpDumper]

That's why trump won the popular vote. Most people dislike you, a lot.:lol 1.8% mandate

Why did he lose the popular vote so badly last time?

[GAustex]

"They are getting wealthy at the taxpayers expense "

[ChumpDumper]

"They are getting wealthy at the taxpayers expense "

Elon sure is.

[Thread]

:lol 1.8% mandate

Why did he lose the popular vote so badly last time?

Because Biden swore to shut it down.
tee, hee.

[ChumpDumper]

Literally, everything


Is funding cancer research wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

It's amazing how angry ST Trumptards still are.

[z0sa]

"They are getting wealthy at the taxpayers expense "

Yeah, fuck those Republican farmers. am i right or am i fuckin' right?

[Winehole23]

sorest, whiniest bunch of winners ever

you remember how wound up and angry Trump was for his first inaugural?

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, fuck those Republican farmers. am i right or am i fuckin' right?

And the kids with cancer. Moochers!

[Winehole23]

That's why trump won the popular vote. Most people dislike you, a lot.Well, I can see it's earnestly felt

Two whole sentences!

[Blake]

Literally, everything

Oh you mean like ingesting horse pills to fight off the "sniffles"?

[DarrinS]

Well, I can see it's earnestly felt

Two whole sentences!

Burp. No one cares

[Blake]

Yeah, fuck those Republican farmers. am i right or am i fuckin' right?

They're getting what they voted for

[GAustex]

DOGE: Democrats Officially Getting Exposed

[Blake]

Burp. No one cares

41000 posts of you not caring

[DarrinS]

You are very stupid!

[Blake]

DOGE: Democrats Officially Getting Exposed

You voted for a felon

[Blake]

You are very stupid!

You're retarded. Now what?

[ChumpDumper]

DOGE: Democrats Officially Getting ExposedExposed for what?

[ChumpDumper]

You are very stupid!

ducks?

[DarrinS]

41000 posts of you not caring

You're one of the dumbest people o pretending to care.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin is drunker than usual

[Blake]

Burp.

[DarrinS]

Y'all will not do shit. And hilarious.

[DarrinS]

Dems don't have anything to offer the American people

[ChumpDumper]

Dems don't have anything to offer the American people

What do you have to offer?

[Winehole23]

Burp. No one caresYou're talkative tonight, yet terse.

That's probably a blessing

[Winehole23]

DOGE at the local government level already exists it's called ransomware (https://bsky.app/profile/chadloder.bsky.social/post/3lhxgej4axk2e)

[Winehole23]

Bunch of 25-year-old script kiddies with names like "Big Balls" gain unauthorized access to your servers, delete your data, take your website down and now you can't serve your customers and your whole outfit goes belly up unless you pay money to a mafia boss

That's literally ransomware

[ChumpDumper]

Well that's something to offer the people, right?

[Winehole23]

announcing sweeping, evidence-free conclusions before the investigation is complete is the hallmark of a professional audit



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[ChumpDumper]

I mean, he'll never show us his work. He can make up any number he wants.

[Winehole23]

purge lists


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[Winehole23]

so then, Trumplandia is investigating El0n hacking the treasury


Treasury Department officials said Tuesday that the agency last week “mistakenly” and “briefly” gave a member of Elon Musk’s team the power to alter a sensitive federal payments database, prompting an internal forensic investigation that remains ongoing.https://www.newsbreak.com/politico-560779/3804131883849-treasury-officials-musk-ally-mistakenly-had-power-to-alter-payments-system

[Winehole23]

internet lip readers think Musk's son really said "I want you to shush your mouth"


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[Winehole23]

will the new commissar of IT start roping in his billionaire buddies?


But the Office of Personnel Management, now being overseen by Elon Musk and his minions, just issued a memo, which was obtained by Mother Jones, to all heads and acting heads of federal agencies asking them to request a change in the status of CIOs from “senior executive service” and “career reserved” to “general.” This means Musk could move to take over the IT of the entire federal government by placing cronies and ideologues into these key posts.

As FedScoop notes (https://fedscoop.com/opm-reclassify-chief-information-officers-career-politics/), this “move seems to be focused on making it easier for the government to install outsiders—potentially from the tech industry or those associated with Elon Musk—into the CIO role, similar to the ongoing and highly controversial activities (https://fedscoop.com/treasury-sued-by-union-groups-over-systems-access-given-to-musk-doge/) led by the Department of Government Efficiency (https://fedscoop.com/tag/department-of-government-efficiency-doge/).”

In all the flurry of news about Musk’s effort to seize control of the federal government and depopulate its workforce, this memo hasn’t received much attention yet. But if OPM succeeds in reclassifying the status of CIOs, Musk—or someone else—could gain control of the lifeblood of any modern organization: its IT.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/02/donald-trump-opm-memo-elon-musk-takeover-government-it/

https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Screenshot-2025-02-05-at-10.54.30%E2%80%AFAM.png?w=491

[Winehole23]

too late, already happening


Former Palantir and Elon Musk Associates Are Taking Over Key Government IT Roles

The chief information officers of at least three major government agencies have been replaced by Silicon Valley executives, including from Palantir and Elon Musk's SpaceX.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-palantir-chief-information-officers-government/

[Winehole23]

watch the DOGE subcommittee live

https://www.c-span.org/event/house-committee/doge-subcommittee-hearing-on-government-waste/430854

[Blake]

announcing sweeping, evidence-free conclusions before the investigation is complete is the hallmark of a professional audit

This way when his scam is uncovered, maybe it won't seem so bad

[Blake]

internet lip readers think Musk's son really said "I want you to shush your mouth"


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So weird

[TSA]

so then, Trumplandia is investigating El0n hacking the treasury

https://www.newsbreak.com/politico-560779/3804131883849-treasury-officials-musk-ally-mistakenly-had-power-to-alter-payments-system

Krause said he learned from Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service that “there was briefly an error that provided Mr. Elez read/write access to the [Secure Payment System], but that Mr. Elez did not access that system during that time, and was likely unaware that he had any such read/write access.”

Joseph Gioeli, a deputy commissioner of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service and career Treasury employee, wrote that department officials developed various safeguards to mitigate the risks associated with granting Elez and the DOGE team unusually broad access to multiple systems, which included limiting his powers to “read-only” access. They also restricted read-only queries of the payment systems to “low-utilization time periods” to minimize the possibility of operational disruptions.

“The Bureau used several cybersecurity tools to monitor Mr. Elez’s usage and continuously log his activity,” Gioeli said.

But Gioeli said that on the morning of Feb. 6, Treasury officials discovered that Elez’s access to one of the systems — the Secure Payment System — “on February 5 had mistakenly been configured with read/write permissions instead of read-only.

“A forensic investigation was immediately initiated by database administrators to review all activities performed on that server and database,” Gioeli wrote, adding that the “initial investigation” did not find that Elez took any actions to exercise the power to modify anything within the database.

https://www.newsbreak.com/politico-560779/3804131883849-treasury-officials-musk-ally-mistakenly-had-power-to-alter-payments-system

[TSA]

This way when his scam is uncovered, maybe it won't seem so bad

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?

[TSA]

So weirdhttps://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889706808366813685

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1889665067605426443

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database?

[Yonivore]

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Myanmar aerobics instructor dances to Indonesian protest anthem as military coup unfolds (https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3120255/myanmar-aerobics-instructor-dances-indonesian-protest-anthem)

He's being symbolic and esoteric, Darrin.

[Thread]

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database?

Because you don't.

[TSA]

announcing sweeping, evidence-free conclusions before the investigation is complete is the hallmark of a professional audit

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1889538906938327297

[Winehole23]

How long do you think a whole of government audit takes?

About one week?

Also, shouldn't Elon show his work -- if not to Congress at least to the rest of us?

[Yonivore]

How long do you think a whole of government audit takes?

About one week?

Also, shouldn't Elon show his work -- if not to Congress at least to the rest of us?
DOGE is scheduled to conclude its work on July 4, 2026.

[ChumpDumper]

DOGE is scheduled to conclude its work on July 4, 2026.Is it scheduled to be transparent?

[Blake]

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database?

This never gets answered

[ChumpDumper]

This never gets answered

There are so many questions these chickenshits won't answer.

[TSA]

This never gets answered

It's been answered many times, to uncover fraud and waste.

Speaking of unanswered questions...


What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?

[koriwhat]

All those sad Lyft drivers in LA wanting to sell their tesla cars these days because of copium. :lmao

[Blake]

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889706808366813685

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1889665067605426443

You guys are way too into looks.

[Blake]

It's been answered many times, to uncover fraud and waste.

Speaking of unanswered questions...

You miss the question again like many times before. Nobody wants fraud and waste. Why is Elon that guy to be the one for you to sniff it out?

[koriwhat]

Lol at the bitch boys club crying over trying to reduce gov waste whether it's our tax dollars or personnel. You bitch boys don't get it yet, we don't give one fuck what yall voted for and thus we don't care what you think of what's happening rn in our government. Eat shit and die you pathetic fucks!

[koriwhat]

Is blakkkes bitchass posting his stupid ignore post and miss cleo predictions? Kill yourself bitch boy! :tu

[TSA]

You miss the question again like many times before. Nobody wants fraud and waste. Why is Elon that guy to be the one for you to sniff it out?

I didn't miss the question at all.

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database? To uncover fraud and waste.

You dodged my question, again.

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?

[ChumpDumper]

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?He's going to embed himself and his companies throughout the government with his AI schemes and cronies (like all the new CIOs).

He's going to use the data he scraped to jumpstart his moribund "everything" app scheme, probably incorporating government payments. He will also weaponize the data he stole against his competitors.

He is going to get all the government investigations into him and his companies ended.

He is going to audit his own government contracts and find everything is great!

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't miss the question at all.

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database? To uncover fraud and waste.
Why does he need all of it?

[koriwhat]

I didn't miss the question at all.

Why do you want Elon to have access to the entire Treasury payment database? To uncover fraud and waste.

You dodged my question, again.

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?

They're sk stupid they actually believe musk wants all their worthless ssn's. BlaKKKe your ex's illegal bf already is using yours.

[Blake]

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here?

Elon and Trump both have a ridiculously large amount of conflicts of interest.

What always makes me lol with you is that you're crazy into conspiracies and the biggest one staring you in the face, you're brushing off as just a couple of billionaires doing good deeds out of the goodness of their hearts to make America great again.

You're incredibly stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

They're sk stupid they actually believe musk wants all their worthless ssn's.

Post yours here, tough guy.

[SnakeBoy]

1889501267317096866

[ChumpDumper]

1889501267317096866

What, in your opinion, does that mean?

[TSA]

Elon and Trump both have a ridiculously large amount of conflicts of interest.

What always makes me lol with you is that you're crazy into conspiracies and the biggest one staring you in the face, you're brushing off as just a couple of billionaires doing good deeds out of the goodness of their hearts to make America great again.

You're incredibly stupid.
You miss the question again like many times before.

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here? Be specific.

[SnakeBoy]

1889424492583170414

[ChumpDumper]

1889424492583170414Will Elon investigate the money spent on Elon?

[Blake]

1889501267317096866

Trump maybe should have done that more often instead of using Rudy

[Blake]

1889424492583170414

Musk will find that too many health benefits are being paid out and that we need to buy more rockets for Space Force

[Spurs Homer]

mic drop moment...i challenge any of you magats to watch this and then explain your musk/trump robber baron support?


https://youtu.be/ZRJjQCXXdlY?si=f263yV4eFaMbVdIv

[Thread]

mic drop moment...i challenge any of you magats to watch this and then explain your musk/trump robber baron support?


https://youtu.be/ZRJjQCXXdlY?si=f263yV4eFaMbVdIv

Sit on it, Homer.

[koriwhat]

Lmao at donkey brained Spurs Homer! ST's own Corky.

https://i.ibb.co/27HfdRV7/Screenshot-20250212-163034-Drive.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

mic drop moment...i challenge any of you magats to watch this and then explain your musk/trump robber baron support?


https://youtu.be/ZRJjQCXXdlY?si=f263yV4eFaMbVdIv

That's a good lib meltdown

They will get better

[SnakeBoy]

mic drop moment...i challenge any of you magats to watch this and then explain your musk/trump robber baron support?


https://youtu.be/ZRJjQCXXdlY?si=f263yV4eFaMbVdIv

That's a good lib meltdown

They will get better

[koriwhat]

LMAO At Casar losing his endorsement and affiliation with the pitiful DSA. This dude is bitchmade... LMAO Activist in college and still to this day in office. :lmao

Are his parents "immigrants" or illegals? Is he an anchor baby by chance? :lmao

I bet Illhan pegs this dude.

[TSA]

Elon and Trump both have a ridiculously large amount of conflicts of interest.

What always makes me lol with you is that you're crazy into conspiracies and the biggest one staring you in the face, you're brushing off as just a couple of billionaires doing good deeds out of the goodness of their hearts to make America great again.

You're incredibly stupid.

You miss the question again like many times before.

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here? Be specific.

[Blake]

You miss the question again like many times before.

What scam do you think Elon is running under the cover of exposing and reducing billions in government waste? What's your conspiracy theory here? Be specific.

I never specifically said there was one yet myself, but CD posted a whole bunch of possible scams that you glossed over in your lame attempt to win the internets.

There's a reason there have been policies in place to avoid conflicts of interests but Trump is trampling those too and you guys dgaf cuz lib tears are just too delicious in the moment.

Keep rooting for billionaires to take over, pizza.

[DarrinS]

You miss the question again like many times before. Nobody wants fraud and waste. Why is Elon that guy to be the one for you to sniff it out?

What person(s) would Democrats trust to do this work?

[Blake]

What person(s) would Democrats trust to do this work?

I'm fine with a Bipartisan appointed task force. Why the fuck do you guys trust a guy that lost billions on Twitter to rummage through the Treasury?

"BecAusE hE goOd riCh gUy deT donT neeD any mo MoneY

[ChumpDumper]

What person(s) would Democrats trust to do this work?

What? Would you be afraid of conflicts of interest, Darrin?

Do you know how this is normally done in government, Darrin?

[GAustex]

HERE WE GO: Trump to Hold Presser Tomorrow to Reveal Names of Entities and People Involved in Govt. Fraud and Abuse, “There’s No Chance That There’s No Kickbacks Going On”

[ChumpDumper]

HERE WE GO: Trump to Hold Presser Tomorrow to Reveal Names of Entities and People Involved in Govt. Fraud and Abuse, “There’s No Chance That There’s No Kickbacks Going On”Why not just indict them before poisoning the entire country's jury pool?

[Thread]

HERE WE GO: Trump to Hold Presser Tomorrow to Reveal Names of Entities and People Involved in Govt. Fraud and Abuse, “There’s No Chance That There’s No Kickbacks Going On”

Amen & hallelujah!!!

[TSA]

I never specifically said there was one yet myself


This way when his scam is uncovered, maybe it won't seem so bad

You then went on to refer to this scam as the biggest conspiracy ever.

So what is his scam that is the biggest conspiracy ever? Don’t be a chickenshit (your term for people who don’t answer questions) and dodge again.

[TSA]

I'm fine with a Bipartisan appointed task force. Why the fuck do you guys trust a guy that lost billions on Twitter to rummage through the Treasury?

"BecAusE hE goOd riCh gUy deT donT neeD any mo MoneY

Republicans are guilty of waste and fraud too. That’s the whole reason DOGE was formed.

[Winehole23]

great, make the case to Congress and write the budget to reflect the lessons learned

letting El0n do mass firings and turn off the money spigot is bonkers

[Winehole23]

until a week ago, none of y'all had anything to say about USAID

now you're all experts...











































...at licking the propaganda spoon

[Winehole23]

great, make the case to Congress and write the budget to reflect the lessons learned

letting El0n do mass firings and turn off the money spigot is bonkerslet alone putting him in charge of IT while running a soviet style shadow government that touches all executive agencies and reports directly to the leader of the party.

[DarrinS]

let alone putting him in charge of IT while running a soviet style shadow government that touches all executive agencies and reports directly to the leader of the party.

Soviet style. Sounds scary

[Winehole23]

Bannon thought he would be there -- Berialike (https://www.historyonthenet.com/lavrentiy-beria-the-ruthless-enforcer-of-stalins-reign) -- in the Oval Office next to DJT, but it turned out to be El0n who crowned the glory of Bannonist-Leninism

[Yonivore]

great, make the case to Congress and write the budget to reflect the lessons learned

letting El0n do mass firings and turn off the money spigot is bonkers
Technically, Elon is doing neither. He is merely recommending actions, based on his audits, and agency heads are doing the firing and turning off the spigots, at the behest of the President of the United States of America. The Executive. The person responsible for everything every agency does.

Frankly, I wish he would go Andrew Jackson and tell the judges, "you've made your ruling, now enforce it." Or, for you Democrats out there, he could go all FDR and threaten to pack the courts so the judiciary will back the fuck down. Of course, we have Barack Obama who declared he had a pen and a phone. And, finally, Slow Joe who just outright defied the courts by doing an end-around on school debt forgiveness. It's funny how Democrats all of a sudden hold the judiciary in such high regard when they're doing stupid shit from the bench they like.

Should I post the clips of various Democrats calling judges activist when they do something they don't like but, above reproach, when they do?

I posted an article, earlier this week, in some thread, where it was revealed the Trump team had been planning January 20th for months. He had assembled a team of over 1,000 people so they could hit the ground running. You think they didn't expect resistance and lawfare to try and slow them down? Anyone else notice the entire Trump administration is not breaking a sweat, while the like of Schumer, Warren, AOC, Maxine, et. al. run around screaming constitutional crisis, Orange Man Bad, coup, and so forth. I honestly think the President and Elon are amused, if a bit frustrated. I know I am.

[Winehole23]

you're completely full of it

that's a lot of words to say nothing imho

[Yonivore]

Bannon thought he would be there -- Berialike (https://www.historyonthenet.com/lavrentiy-beria-the-ruthless-enforcer-of-stalins-reign) -- in the Oval Office next to DJT, but it turned out to be El0n who crowned the glory of Bannonist-Leninism

Bannon didn't have Big Balls.

[Winehole23]

Soviet style. Sounds scaryit's impossible to describe things without using words

are you scared?

[DarrinS]

Bannon thought he would be there -- Berialike (https://www.historyonthenet.com/lavrentiy-beria-the-ruthless-enforcer-of-stalins-reign) -- in the Oval Office next to DJT, but it turned out to be El0n who crowned the glory of Bannonist-Leninism

:rolleyes

[DarrinS]

it's impossible to describe things without using words

are you scared?

Not at all, but I didn't start this hysterical thread

[Blake]

Republicans are guilty of waste and fraud too. That’s the whole reason DOGE was formed.

Doesn't answer the question

[Blake]

You then went on to refer to this scam as the biggest conspiracy ever.

So what is his scam that is the biggest conspiracy ever? Don’t be a chickenshit (your term for people who don’t answer questions) and dodge again.

I already said I don't know. I'm guessing there will be one.

Wtf is wrong with you?

[Winehole23]

claw backs?


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The Trump administration has revoked more than $80 million in funds (https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/02/10/elon-musk-says-trump-seeking-to-claw-back-59m-in-migrant-funding-for-nyc/) from New York City bank accounts after Elon Musk earlier this week threatened to claw back FEMA money he claimed the city used to house migrants in “luxury hotels,” prompting City Hall to raise the possibility of legal action.


The city received a payment of $80.5 million from the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s Shelter and Services Program (https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program) on Feb. 4. But Wednesday morning, City Comptroller Brad Lander discovered that FEMA abruptly cancelled the disbursement, making the money disappear from New York City coffers — a development Lander said he’d never before seen.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-revokes-80-million-from-nyc-after-threat-to-claw-back-fema-cash-used-to-care-for-migrants/

[Winehole23]

it would seem there would be a natural trade off there between efficiency and the opportunity for corruption and political coercion

if the government can take money directly out of your account, wow

[Winehole23]

another way to put it is El0n stole appropriated funds

[Winehole23]

but I guess that's a commonplace now

[Yonivore]

For those clamoring for transparency and receipts, the Department of Government Efficiency regularly posts to X with some of their activity.

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1889857378520363493

What you'll see here is that Elon didn't cancel any contracts, the EPA did. As has been said before, all DOGE is doing is auditing, revealing issues, and making recommendations. It's up to the President and agency heads to take action.

[Spurs Homer]

lololol

um yeah…those DOGE-BAGS are um “auditors”

hahahahahahahaha!

you want to do an audit- you employ NON-PARTISAN auditors….

not maga cultists

[Winehole23]

scammy GSA lease megadeal

https://www.wired.com/story/gsa-sell-government-buildings/

[Winehole23]

For those clamoring for transparency and receipts, the Department of Government Efficiency regularly posts to X with some of their activity.

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1889857378520363493

What you'll see here is that Elon didn't cancel any contracts, the EPA did. As has been said before, all DOGE is doing is auditing, revealing issues, and making recommendations. It's up to the President and agency heads to take action.it doesn't matter who ordered it

unless we already inhabit a post-constitutional space, Congress still has the power of the purse

[DarrinS]

lololol

um yeah…those DOGE-BAGS are um “auditors”

hahahahahahahaha!

you want to do an audit- you employ NON-PARTISAN auditors….

not maga cultists

Add in Mark Cuban. He's soy enough. :lmao

[Winehole23]

I presume Hegseth is temporizing, but if he can't detransition and sack trans soldiers decisively

good luck with the upcoming political purges of the US armed forces

[Yonivore]

it doesn't matter who ordered it

unless we already inhabit a post-constitutional space, Congress still has the power of the purse
Well, that's the question, isn't it. They have the power of appropriation. If they want to tell the Executive where the money is to be spent, I'd like to see the line in the law that said you'll pay $458,919 per year for subscriptions.

As it works, and has worked for almost 250 years, Congress passes a law and decides how much money they want to appropriate to the Executive Branch in order to execute the law. (Some laws are unfunded). The Executive Branch then throws the law to a bunch of bureaucrats and tell them to promulgate rules that will do what the legislature wants done. Being bureaucrats, they will come up with some thing that spends every damn penny (and then some) of the money appropriated for the law. Nothing in the law says how much of the money appropriated must be spent (unless there's a known line item to be purchased), that's the job of the Executive.

This Executive happens to believe we could be spending a lot less than we are on programs that are chocked full of fraud, mismanagement, and abuse.

It's obviously a question that needs to run up through the courts because, it needs to be settled, once and for all, if any 1 of 95 U. S. District Judges can wake up one morning and decide he wants to take over the powers of the Executive Branch. I would contend the President has an obligation to make sure the funds appropriated by Congress are spent appropriately. Otherwise, just move all the executive branch offices over to the Capitol or the Supreme Court and be done with it.

[DarrinS]

We need more trans war fighters! :lmao

[Blake]

another way to put it is El0n stole appropriated funds

bUt he's a biLLionairE

[Blake]

We need more trans war fighters! :lmao

If they make you cower like this

[Winehole23]

We need more trans war fighters! :lmaoI don't recall anyone saying so

The current reported number of trans soldiers is ~15,000 service-wide

[Winehole23]

Well, that's the question, isn't it. They have the power of appropriation. If they want to tell the Executive where the money is to be spent, I'd like to see the line in the law that said you'll pay $458,919 per year for subscriptions.

As it works, and has worked for almost 250 years, Congress passes a law and decides how much money they want to appropriate to the Executive Branch in order to execute the law. (Some laws are unfunded). The Executive Branch then throws the law to a bunch of bureaucrats and tell them to promulgate rules that will do what the legislature wants done. Being bureaucrats, they will come up with some thing that spends every damn penny (and then some) of the money appropriated for the law. Nothing in the law says how much of the money appropriated must be spent (unless there's a known line item to be purchased), that's the job of the Executive.

This Executive happens to believe we could be spending a lot less than we are on programs that are chocked full of fraud, mismanagement, and abuse.

It's obviously a question that needs to run up through the courts because, it needs to be settled, once and for all, if any 1 of 95 U. S. District Judges can wake up one morning and decide he wants to take over the powers of the Executive Branch. I would contend the President has an obligation to make sure the funds appropriated by Congress are spent appropriately. Otherwise, just move all the executive branch offices over to the Capitol or the Supreme Court and be done with it.What silly horseshit

El0n/Trump started by hijacking the US Treasury, now they're on a crime spree. They're breaking laws as fast as they can and daring the courts to catch up.

[Yonivore]

What silly horseshit

El0n/Trump started by hijacking the US Treasury, now they're on a crime spree. They're breaking laws as fast as they can and daring the courts to catch up.
Well reasoned and supported argument there, Winehole.

As someone who has been a bureaucrat with budgetary authority, I'm pretty familiar with how agencies, programs, and legislative mandates are appropriated. Do you seriously believe Congress appropriated funds to the EPA to be spent on subscriptions to Politico?

Every penny appropriated to the EPA has its origins at the EPA within a budget request. Congress holds the purse strings. The Executive opens the purse and spends the money...in the way it deems most likely to achieve the Congressional intent of the law. Are you arguing that just because the EPA receives enough money to allow it to blow it on waste, fraud and abuse, they should be left alone to do that? Without any oversight from the Executive Branch?

[Yonivore]

What silly horseshit

El0n/Trump started by hijacking the US Treasury, now they're on a crime spree. They're breaking laws as fast as they can and daring the courts to catch up.
Take any of the things DOGE is proposing be cut and tell me who made the final decision on where to spend the money?

Was it Congress? Or, was it a bureaucrat?

I know the answer to that question, and so do you.

[Winehole23]

grow up, Yoni

y'all are wrecking the US government, we're already way past debate club

[Yonivore]

grow up, Yoni

y'all are wrecking the US government, we're already way past debate club
What has been wrecked?

I think we're simply beyond your ability to provide a reasonable response.

[Winehole23]

coming soon to the USA, El0n/Trump will sue you for talking shit about them



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qiknc4t5rq7yngvz7g4aezq7/bafkreicyj5mvhdz5ytuv6uutnumqly3hzyvrejpbwomzqne2m iukqdteym@jpeghttps://apnews.com/article/tesla-china-lawsuits-musk-investigation-58b10ccace488784fcc63646ab78b410

[Blake]

Well reasoned and supported argument there, Winehole.

As someone who has been a bureaucrat with budgetary authority, I'm pretty familiar with how agencies, programs, and legislative mandates are appropriated. Do you seriously believe Congress appropriated funds to the EPA to be spent on subscriptions to Politico?

Every penny appropriated to the EPA has its origins at the EPA within a budget request. Congress holds the purse strings. The Executive opens the purse and spends the money...in the way it deems most likely to achieve the Congressional intent of the law. Are you arguing that just because the EPA receives enough money to allow it to blow it on waste, fraud and abuse, they should be left alone to do that? Without any oversight from the Executive Branch?

Why is Elon the one to do it?

[Winehole23]

What has been wrecked?.USAID

[Blake]

Lol "what has been wrecked?"

[Winehole23]

cha-ching


The State Department’s procurement forecast, revised as of late December 2024, lists Tesla as the recipient of the largest expected contract, with Marco Rubio’s department planning to buy $400,000,000 worth of “Armored Tesla.”
The award is targeted for Q4 (https://www.state.gov/procurement-forecast), and is forecast to last for five years.
ttps://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts

[Yonivore]

coming soon to the USA, El0n/Trump will sue you for talking shit about them


https://apnews.com/article/tesla-china-lawsuits-musk-investigation-58b10ccace488784fcc63646ab78b410
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This seems like a topic for another thread.

Personally, I would never own a Tesla. They're ugly.

[Winehole23]

Lol "what has been wrecked?"Yonivore tries to play coy

not very convincingly

[Winehole23]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbnM5dXkwMWE2ZTg5a3g4Mnh0dWN1ZGR mcnJxMG1tM3NjanVidWs3eiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/pfHBWCCOySoRq/giphy.gif
This seems like a topic for another thread.I hope not, you're super-long-winded without very much to say

[Yonivore]

cha-ching

ttps://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts
December? Hmmm...I wonder who was President? Oh, yeah, Mr. EV Green New Scam Biden.

I'm reminded of the bit Dave Chappelle did about Trump where he called him an "Honest Liar" (Oxymoronic, I know) but, during the bit, he marveled at how Trump responded to Hillary Clinton, during the 2016 Presidential Debate, when she pointed out Donald Trump didn't pay any taxes. He said [I'm paraphrasing David Chappelle paraphrasing Donald Trump], you're right, and neither do any of your wealthy friends and donors. If you want to change that, change the laws. We're only taking advantage of the legal loophole afforded us by the government.

I suspect, if I were Elon Musk and the federal government was going to go out for bids on an armored electric vehicle, I'd put Tesla in the running.

Was it a sole source procurement or were other electric vehicle manufacturers eligible to compete?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfQCDaAa6s

[Yonivore]

Yonivore tries to play coy

not very convincingly
I have not noticed any degradation in service from my federal government. Have you?

[Winehole23]

I have not noticed any degradation in service from my federal government. Have you?are you kidding?

this is well reported, where do you think all the lawsuits against Trump's illegal actions are coming from?

[Winehole23]

jesus, did you read the affidavit on the previous page?

it's like your mind is conveniently wiped blank from moment to moment

[Yonivore]

are you kidding?
No, I'm not. Was on the phone with the Social Security Administration today. Person on the other end was cordial, professional, and helpful.

How have any of the Presidential Actions personally affected you, so far?


this is well reported, where do you think all the lawsuits against Trump's illegal actions are coming from?
From the fevered brains of Leftists and activist judges.

[Yonivore]

I suspect we'll be seeing more of this and more transparency from the Trump administration as the days go by. It'll be harder and harder for the Left to cry that Trump and Elon are robbing the treasury when, as it turns out, it was the previous administration doing so.

https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1889840040622321778

The video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblV6EwzKxg

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1889794177631948865

[Winehole23]

in anyone keeping track of how much money is getting handed back and forth b/w El0n and Trump?



Again, Twitter WON (https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3lhzkkuu5nk2v) this case (decisively) at the district court level. The 9th Circuit made it clear that Twitter would win on appeal at oral args. And now it decided to just hand over $10 million to Trump.https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/elon-musk-x-settle-trump-lawsuit-capitol-riot-doge.html

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1889794177631948865how could real deal, agency-wide forensic audits conclude in one or two weeks?

be real now

go away with your trumpy agitprop

[Winehole23]

this is more "Trump rules by decree" bullshit

[GAustex]

Lefties foisted themselves on their own petard

[Blake]

cha-ching

ttps://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts

Called it. Here's my receipt:


I can't wait to see how you tards would react if Tesla suddenly gets a military contract to make a bunch of those minivans for them.

[Blake]

Lefties foisted themselves on their own petard

Your blather is old.

[Blake]

I suspect we'll be seeing more of this and more transparency from the Trump administration as the days go by.

Lol

[Blake]

No, I'm not. Was on the phone with the Social Security Administration today. Person on the other end was cordial, professional, and helpful.

How have any of the Presidential Actions personally affected you, so far?


From the fevered brains of Leftists and activist judges.

They've affected for farmers for one. Guess who that affects down the line, genius.

[GAustex]

Your blather is old.

How can he keep winning?
Winning so much
But I am not tired of winning

[Winehole23]

y'all think you are speedrunning dictatorship

but what y'all are really speedrunning is gridlock

[Winehole23]

did Trump extort a bribe from El0n?


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[Winehole23]

very conflicted man


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[SnakeBoy]

He doesn't seem conflicted at all

[ChumpDumper]

Technically, Elon is doing neither. He is merely recommending actions, based on his audits, and agency heads are doing the firing and turning off the spigots, at the behest of the President of the United States of America. The Executive. The person responsible for everything every agency does.

Frankly, I wish he would go Andrew Jackson and tell the judges, "you've made your ruling, now enforce it." Or, for you Democrats out there, he could go all FDR and threaten to pack the courts so the judiciary will back the fuck down. Of course, we have Barack Obama who declared he had a pen and a phone. And, finally, Slow Joe who just outright defied the courts by doing an end-around on school debt forgiveness. It's funny how Democrats all of a sudden hold the judiciary in such high regard when they're doing stupid shit from the bench they like.

Should I post the clips of various Democrats calling judges activist when they do something they don't like but, above reproach, when they do?

I posted an article, earlier this week, in some thread, where it was revealed the Trump team had been planning January 20th for months. He had assembled a team of over 1,000 people so they could hit the ground running. You think they didn't expect resistance and lawfare to try and slow them down? Anyone else notice the entire Trump administration is not breaking a sweat, while the like of Schumer, Warren, AOC, Maxine, et. al. run around screaming constitutional crisis, Orange Man Bad, coup, and so forth. I honestly think the President and Elon are amused, if a bit frustrated. I know I am.

You're just so full of shit.

[ChumpDumper]

He doesn't seem conflicted at all

You're just so full of shit.

[ChumpDumper]

:rollin this fucking moron

1889896827513868734

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889896827513868734

[Winehole23]

dismantling US soft power is a boon to US adversaries

El0n is kinda conflicted as regards China


DOGE’s Latest Target is Seen as a Gift to the CCP

The National Endowment for Democracy has long been a thorn in the CCP's side. On Tuesday, its funding was frozen.




Only a small portion of NED’s budget come directly from the State Department’s foreign assistance funding, all of which was halted last week, the insider says. The vast majority comes — via the Treasury payments system — from the portion of the State Department’s budget (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48231) allocated to internal operations and related agencies. It is unclear why the funding was cut offhttps://www.thewirechina.com/2025/02/12/doges-latest-target-is-seen-as-a-gift-to-the-ccp/

[Winehole23]

How much Elon Musk makes from the government a day: $8 million.

How much a senior on Social Security gets a day: $65

Guess which budget (https://bsky.app/profile/repcasar.bsky.social/post/3lhyrc62j322r)Musk and Trump want to cut?

[Winehole23]

A billionaire (https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3li2schy5ks22) (https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3li2schy5ks22)who has attached himself to the federal government while sucking massive amounts of money from it thinks *other* people are “parasites”

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:f2i3ofilfiibjkzweklzc3ik/bafkreibsx34qaer6cwwsarrwxcdjjaiyp76hjmyczaqth3ypn 6oahkojui@jpeg

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:r75unbj372lvbim6syioaueo/bafkreidct4bwepaarymzqxejdcarh6ro33yj6ywnhak6jgmry xvhzd6p2m@jpeghttps://www.thebulwark.com/p/a-valentine-for-vladimir

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[Winehole23]

Silicon Valley's push to replace the civil service is on

replacing public servants with privately owned AI would be oligarchy and top down control of everyday life by unelected elite businessmen connected with Trump

maybe we'll get Skynet too


Oracle Corp.’s co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison said governments should consolidate all national data for consumption by artificial intelligence models, calling this step the “missing link” for them to take full advantage of the technology.
Fragmented sets of data about a population’s health, agriculture, infrastructure, procurement and borders should be unified into a single, secure database that can be accessed by AI models, Ellison said in an on-stage interview with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair at the World Government Summit in Dubai.

Countries with rich population data sets, such as the UK and United Arab Emirates, could cut costs and improve public services, particularly health care, with this approach, Ellison said.

Oracle, known for its database software, has been focusing on expanding its cloud infrastructure business (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-11/oracle-reports-strong-bookings-signaling-further-cloud-momentum), renting computing power and storage to customers including government agencies, competing larger rivals like Microsoft Corp. and Amazon.com Inc. Growth in that unit has been driven by demand for training large-language models in the cloud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/oracle-s-ellison-calls-for-governments-to-unify-data-to-feed-ai/ar-AA1yUMLW

[Winehole23]

scammy GSA lease megadeal

https://www.wired.com/story/gsa-sell-government-buildings/could roil CRE



It hasn’t gotten much attention, but one of Elon Musk’s major DOGE initiatives is a massive fire sale (https://www.wired.com/story/gsa-sell-government-buildings/) of federal office space. Despite forcing federal employees back to the office by abolishing telework programs, Musk and company want to unload a large number of unused properties and recoup that money for the budget, a process that could expand if worker purges continue (https://www.semafor.com/article/02/11/2025/trump-moves-to-significantly-reduce-federal-workforce).


That theoretical win-win, however, will soon come into contact with the realities of commercial real estate markets, which are particularly depressed when it comes to the very type of inventory the government wants to sell. Older office space is experiencing record vacancy levels, with owners struggling to refinance the buildings. Putting large amounts of it on the market could have dramatic consequences, including damaging the economy in cities like Washington, D.C. It could lead to widespread defaults in financial securities linked to commercial mortgages. And if unchecked, that could lead to broader pain.


“Every additional shock is painful,” said Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh, a professor of real estate and finance at the Columbia Business School. “I’m not sure they’ve thought this fully through.”
https://prospect.org/economy/2025-02-13-how-doge-could-spark-a-financial-crash/

[Winehole23]

Over 20 percent (https://www.axios.com/2025/01/10/office-return-vacancies-remote-workers) of U.S. office space was vacant in 2024, according to financial analysts at Moody’s, and this year is expected to be rocky (https://www.commercialedge.com/blog/national-office-report/) as well. A growing number of older buildings (known as Class B and C offices by the lingo of CRE) are simply being torn down; one industry veteran lists about 30 percent of the entire office portfolio as “basically worth nothing (https://fortune.com/2024/02/25/office-commercial-real-estate-crisis-doom-loop-conversion-housing-subsidies-demolition/).”

Van Nieuwerburgh told me that many older buildings in particular are going at discounts of up to 90 percent relative to their pre-pandemic valuations. Banks have taken large losses on CRE mortgage debt, though most have been able to absorb the losses. (Signature Bank did fail (https://apnews.com/article/signature-fdic-failure-new-york-community-bank-3c820646cc6574439fa158095594505e) in 2023, largely because of CRE, and New York Community Bancorp, which bought Signature, has been teetering (https://www.ft.com/content/e0152ba0-dc44-4250-a157-42c1142e7158).)



“The intention of GSA and the whole federal government is to reduce the number of old buildings that are owned with high liabilities … in favor of newer leased buildings, which can be more flexible and are more modern, that have ways for teams to collaborate and have private spaces,” said Thomas Shedd, head of the Technology Transformation Services, a division of GSA, in a recording of a staff meeting on February 5.

This would be exactly the wrong strategy for the moment, as Van Nieuwerburgh explained. A reliable government tenant is the only thing making any building the government currently owns at all valuable. “If the government sells the building and also vacates it, that building will be close to worthless, especially in a market with a lot of vacancy,

[TSA]

cha-ching

ttps://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts

Did you mean to post this in the Official Biden is Doing Awesome thread? You should probably read the article you link before rushing here to spam it :lol

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts

The acquisition plan was set in motion by the Biden administration last year as part of a move to convert the Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s fleet of roughly 3,000 armored vehicles into zero-emission electric vehicles by 2035. As the primary security arm of the U.S. State Department, the Bureau of Diplomatic Security is responsible for the safety of personnel posted to U.S. embassies around the world, and its Division of Defensive Equipment and Armored Vehicles (DEAV) was seeking green alternatives to its current fleet. The original request for information, from April, is available here.

According to the State Department, only a single company responded to last year’s request for information—presumably Tesla—and there are currently no plans for the award to continue. The State Department stated that the next step in the process would involve “an official solicitation [being] sent out to vehicle manufacturers to bid,” adding that “However, the solicitation is on hold and there are no current plans to issue it.”‘

[Winehole23]

Did you mean to post this in the Official Biden is Doing Awesome thread? You should probably read the article you link before rushing here to spam it :lol

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts

The acquisition plan was set in motion by the Biden administration last year as part of a move to convert the Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s fleet of roughly 3,000 armored vehicles into zero-emission electric vehicles by 2035. As the primary security arm of the U.S. State Department, the Bureau of Diplomatic Security is responsible for the safety of personnel posted to U.S. embassies around the world, and its Division of Defensive Equipment and Armored Vehicles (DEAV) was seeking green alternatives to its current fleet. The original request for information, from April, is available here.

According to the State Department, only a single company responded to last year’s request for information—presumably Tesla—and there are currently no plans for the award to continue. The State Department stated that the next step in the process would involve “an official solicitation [being] sent out to vehicle manufacturers to bid,” adding that “However, the solicitation is on hold and there are no current plans to issue it.”‘they scrubbed the word Tesla from their document last night

you are so gullible

[TSA]

they scrubbed the word Tesla from their document last night

you are so gullibleNo shit they scrubbed it...I actually read the article the first time...unlike you.

"After publication of the possible award Wednesday, State silently edited the public description to remove reference to “Tesla,” with metadata showing it was altered after our article was published. It is not clear if the planned award was halted due to the Trump administration’s opposition to electric vehicles, concerns for a potential conflict of interest regarding Musk’s roles at Tesla and DOGE, or for more opaque bureaucratic reasons. The State Department did not respond to a request for comment on the reasoning."

This happened under Biden you fool.

https://sam.gov/opp/bb1ac5870df5485ab090216dc8fe0511/view

[Winehole23]

Trump president, not Biden

You're a dummy if you think El0n isn't cashing in big time

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:f2i3ofilfiibjkzweklzc3ik/bafkreibsx34qaer6cwwsarrwxcdjjaiyp76hjmyczaqth3ypn 6oahkojui@jpeg

Lol "90%"

[Winehole23]

:rollin this fucking moron

1889896827513868734

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889896827513868734decontextualizing the public record and lying about it are SOP for the Musk/Trump junta


The "large scale social deception" contract Musk is conspiracizing about was:

* first awarded under Trump
* paid to Reuters' data division, not the newsroom
* for researching *defenses* against deception
* not revealed by "DOGE investigations" and was a public record, visible online for many years



https://www.highergov.com/contract/FA865018C7886/#overview

https://www.highergov.com/document/hr001117s0050-amendment-02-pdf-a3f775/

[TSA]

Trump president, not Biden

You're a dummy if you think El0n isn't cashing in big timeYou're a dummy if you think Elon wouldn't have been cashing in big time anyways if Biden had won.

Biden put it in motion and Trump currently has it on hold with no plans for the award to continue.

Just admit that you rushed here thinking you had a gotcha and it blew up in your face because you didn't read your own article you linked. Take the L and move on :lol

[Winehole23]

y'all got pantsed and are backpedaling while you declare victory

I expect to see plenty more where that came from

[Winehole23]

decontextualizing the public record and lying about it are SOP for the Musk/Trump junta





https://www.highergov.com/contract/FA865018C7886/#overview

https://www.highergov.com/document/hr001117s0050-amendment-02-pdf-a3f775/"just wow" isn't forensic accounting

in this case the Musk/Trump junta didn't even read the contracts, they just went straight to inflammatory propaganda

[ChumpDumper]

You're a dummy if you think Elon wouldn't have been cashing in big time anyways if Biden had won.

Biden put it in motion and Trump currently has it on hold with no plans for the award to continue.

Just admit that you rushed here thinking you had a gotcha and it blew up in your face because you didn't read your own article you linked. Take the L and move on :lol

Your Elon did worse with this Reuters business. Should he make a similar admission?

[ChumpDumper]

He also can't even identify the correct Gaza.

Why is he so wrong this often?

[Winehole23]

El0n has his hands on federal transfers, federal hiring, federal contracts and the GSA (buildings and leases), Trump just appointed him to be a whole of government political commissar to which all agency heads must report, and TSA is still pretending El0n Musk is just a normal federal contractor.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_small/6/67663/1580743-06.jpg