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Ice009
06-18-2025, 11:44 AM
Man, I just want this shit done whether or not he comes or not. Such a waste of time all this posturing. Phoenix f$#ked up trying to trade him without talking to him about it, so now they're going to have to live with their screw ups. Their incompetence has put them in this situation and they can't expect to be bailed out. F#$king loser franchise (no offense to their true fans). Hopefully KD has told them he wants Spurs only and other teams have gotten word of that and aren't offering much. If he's given them a true list of teams, then some of it is on him as it seems like Phoenix is trying to get whatever last scrap they can get from a team. He needs to play it similar to Kawhi and pick one team only, otherwise, Phoenix are just going to keep screwing around hoping/wishing for better offers.
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I'm sure KD would want to go there to play for an ostensibly rebuilding team.
This Evan Sidery guy seems like an Ishbia simp too tbh
montgod
06-18-2025, 11:51 AM
How could KD shoot the deal down himself? If he refuses to sign an extension with the Wolves it won't matter what other teams they try to pull into the trade.
Also shot it down by directly saying he didn't want to play for them. Wolves said they wouldn't trade for him if he wasn't onboard. Don't need any issues in the locker room or just trying to get a player to play.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 11:58 AM
This Evan Sidery guy seems like an Ishbia simp too tbh
even Shams is an Ishbia guy. They are trying their hardest, but it ain't working. At this point all of this is just propaganda by the Suns.
LeBowen
06-18-2025, 12:00 PM
even Shams is an Ishbia guy. They are trying their hardest, but it ain't working. At this point all of this is just propaganda by the Suns.
At this point they're just hoping a team that hasn't called before makes a dumb offer because they're not getting shit from the Spurs or the Rockets.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 12:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gtu6C5tWkAA2Okg?format=jpg&name=large
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 12:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gtu6C5tWkAA2Okg?format=jpg&name=large
Waiting to announce the trade until NBA Finals are over + Wemby/KD are in NY together, tbh.
djohn2oo8
06-18-2025, 12:58 PM
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The Suns are godawful at this. They’re gonna drive his value down to fucking wonder bread.
Jordan Jackson
06-18-2025, 01:08 PM
The Suns are dysfunctional. If I’m Devin Booker, I start looking for the exit.
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 01:09 PM
This Evan Sidery guy seems like an Ishbia simp too tbh
sidery is purely an aggregator account, though he often does a good job twisting words in his headlines.
i think he's mostly shit but aggregators have their usefulness
BatManu20
06-18-2025, 01:19 PM
Barnes not going anywhere confirmed.
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Dverde
06-18-2025, 01:25 PM
How about Bulls offer Patrick Williams, Coby White, Zollins?
Jordan Jackson
06-18-2025, 01:25 PM
Barnes not going anywhere confirmed.
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Spurs are now a non-profit charitable organization, that occasionally plays basketball games.
Barnes not going anywhere confirmed.
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Past, not present, tense being used ...
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 01:42 PM
as long as durant keeps telling other teams to fuck off, there's a chance :lol
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 01:47 PM
with that said i really dont get what the wolves are doing. they moved the heavens and earth to go get gobert. they traded away their other franchise big and extended rudy. now they want to trade him for a 37yo forward?
who would they start at center? pay naz ried 25+ mil per year to be a starting center? their rebounding and rim protection would be complete shit. they dont have any other center. and so if durant is gone in 1-2 years, they will have dumped all those picks (gobert) and KAT so they could have a 37yo durant and maybe randle?
just seems nonsensical. the only way a KD trade really makes sense for minny is if randle opts in and goes to phoenix, and the package doesnt involve rudy... but that doesnt seem to be whats being discussed at all
LeBowen
06-18-2025, 01:52 PM
with that said i really dont get what the wolves are doing. they moved the heavens and earth to go get gobert. they traded away their other franchise big and extended rudy. now they want to trade him for a 37yo forward?
Imo, last year they realized they can't get anywhere with KAT and Gobert, it's just that they couldn't move both in the same offseason.
KAT is just too big of a negative on defense if you want to win a championship and Gobert is too big of a negative on offense.
They see KD as a good opportunity to get rid of Gobert as a positive asset and they obviously want to find a younger and more importantly cheaper rim protector.
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I'm sure KD would want to go there to play for an ostensibly rebuilding team.
Man, Stephen A. really stepped in it the other day on this issue and now he's compounding his fuck up. He might be right on the merits, but jeez, its not like other major market cities dont have their own issues either. Just bizarre that he decided to double down as opposed to moving on.
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 02:09 PM
Stephen Screamin Smith throwing away the Memphis vote when he runs for president
sfernald
06-18-2025, 02:12 PM
as long as durant keeps telling other teams to fuck off, there's a chance :lol
Are you telling me there’s a chance!?
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 02:21 PM
The standoff appears to be between Durant and Phoenix wanting him to go to Minnesota or possibly Toronto, etc. My guess is, it's either: one of these places or we'll have you in for camp and we'll run it back.
I don't think Phoenix is going to take the SAS package at this point.
ace3g
06-18-2025, 02:30 PM
Barnes not going anywhere confirmed.
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https://x.com/VVinzetta/status/1935412253303488783
twodeep
06-18-2025, 02:34 PM
The standoff appears to be between Durant and Phoenix wanting him to go to Minnesota or possibly Toronto, etc. My guess is, it's either: one of these places or we'll have you in for camp and we'll run it back.
I don't think Phoenix is going to take the SAS package at this point.
The Spurs should not move off their offer; hey Suns here are the options we will give you take it or leave it and good luck with trading with the other teams
baseline bum
06-18-2025, 02:40 PM
The standoff appears to be between Durant and Phoenix wanting him to go to Minnesota or possibly Toronto, etc. My guess is, it's either: one of these places or we'll have you in for camp and we'll run it back.
I don't think Phoenix is going to take the SAS package at this point.
I bet it's an empty threat, though I imagine when the Suns relent it'll be to trade him to Houston for the #10 and Jalen Green.
Dejounte
06-18-2025, 02:50 PM
We cant make the trade without including barnes right? Sucks if we do
scott
06-18-2025, 03:01 PM
We cant make the trade without including barnes right? Sucks if we do
There are lots of ways to do it without Barnes, but Barnes expiring is probably quite appealing to PHX.
But, both of these work (other things also work, but these are structures that work with the minimum amount of salary going to PHX):
Vassell + Keldon
Vassell + Sochan + Branham + Wesley
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Sounds like what they tell Fredo before he gets on the boat.
Chillen
06-18-2025, 03:08 PM
It's Durant. If it means keeping Sochan I would have no problem saying bye to Barnes.
dn0774
06-18-2025, 03:18 PM
Maybe Barnes gets thrown in and bought out at some point. Could play out the year and come back as an UFA the next season? I liked how competent his minutes were and he was the only guy we had who I legitimately expected his 3 pointers to go in (JChamp early in the season felt like that but it tapered off by December).
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 03:29 PM
We cant make the trade without including barnes right? Sucks if we do
keldon and barnes are basically interchangeable in the vassell packages
it only gets messy if devin isnt in there, at which point you need keldon + barnes and at least 2 other players
Notorious H.O.P.
06-18-2025, 03:34 PM
I wonder if the Spurs have any hesitance over trading Barnes after he waived his trade kicker to facilitate the Fox trade.
dn0774
06-18-2025, 03:37 PM
keldon and barnes are basically interchangeable in the vassell packages
it only gets messy if devin isnt in there, at which point you need keldon + barnes and at least 2 other players
Keldon's contract has an additional year on it that Barnes doesn't. The Suns probably wouldn't want to take that on but interestingly Keldons last 2 years of his deal are descending which may seem more attractive if they already value Keldon a little bit.
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 03:38 PM
Keldon's contract has an additional year on it that Barnes doesn't. The Suns probably wouldn't want to take that on but interestingly Keldons last 2 years of his deal are descending which may seem more attractive if they already value Keldon a little bit.
yeah i def think the suns would prefer barnes
benefactor
06-18-2025, 03:43 PM
Damn it San Antonio don't do my dude Barnes like this. Send out the Friendship crew and call it a day.
LeBowen
06-18-2025, 03:44 PM
https://x.com/AkademiksTV/status/1935336605247557779
And then people wonder why KD doesn't want to go to Minnesota. :lmao :lmao :lmao
BatManu20
06-18-2025, 03:55 PM
T-Wolves or Raptors it is.
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ant-man trying to break wilt's and/or sean kemp's records.
Joseph Kony
06-18-2025, 03:59 PM
still don't understand what crack Masai is smoking that he thinks giving up Quickley/Poeltl/9 for KD is going to somehow make them contenders. dude could have sold OG for a lot more but took Quickley and Barrett for him and now they're already trying to dump them a year later? Gave up a 1st for Poeltl when he was a FA and is already trying to dump him. Sucked ass all season into the 9th pick and is trying to trade that too? :lol dude owes his entire rep to the Spurs
Leetonidas
06-18-2025, 04:01 PM
T-Wolves or Raptors it is.
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Hopefully we see a "KD has made it known he will only sign an extension with the Spurs" tweet from Windy here tonight
Mugen
06-18-2025, 04:06 PM
Drop the hammer, KD.
CorrectCrusader
06-18-2025, 04:09 PM
https://x.com/AkademiksTV/status/1935336605247557779
And then people wonder why KD doesn't want to go to Minnesota. :lmao :lmao :lmao
Imagine going to UGA and having this retard in your class.
LeBowen
06-18-2025, 04:11 PM
Hopefully we see a "KD has made it known he will only sign an extension with the Spurs" tweet from Windy here tonight
This is going to end with Ishbia calling Wright on the draft night and begging him to take KD. :lol
If Wright pulls off another heist, he's going into S tier of current GMs for me.
TD 21
06-18-2025, 04:12 PM
2025 NBA draft: Should Spurs keep No. 2 pick? Here's options - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45526277/2025-nba-draft-san-antonio-spurs-keep-no-2-pick-options)
A day late, but this Pelton trade for Johnson seems realistic in terms of what it'd take.
Doesn't have the needed true four size of a Durant or Markkanen, but obviously wouldn't cost as much either.
still don't understand what crack Masai is smoking that he thinks giving up Quickley/Poeltl/9 for KD is going to somehow make them contenders. dude could have sold OG for a lot more but took Quickley and Barrett for him and now they're already trying to dump them a year later? Gave up a 1st for Poeltl when he was a FA and is already trying to dump him. Sucked ass all season into the 9th pick and is trying to trade that too? :lol dude owes his entire rep to the Spurs
Unless it'd be a precursor to an Antetokounmpo trade request to them, peak Craptors. So desperate for attention that they're trying to make maybe the dumbest trade I've ever seen considering where they're at in their cycle, the lack of championship upside and the likelihood of him being one and done.
still don't understand what crack Masai is smoking that he thinks giving up Quickley/Poeltl/9 for KD is going to somehow make them contenders. dude could have sold OG for a lot more but took Quickley and Barrett for him and now they're already trying to dump them a year later? Gave up a 1st for Poeltl when he was a FA and is already trying to dump him. Sucked ass all season into the 9th pick and is trying to trade that too? :lol dude owes his entire rep to the Spurs
Hey, we'd take take Poeltl for a few 2nd rounders. He would fix our back up big problem very nicely.
benefactor
06-18-2025, 04:13 PM
https://x.com/AkademiksTV/status/1935336605247557779
And then people wonder why KD doesn't want to go to Minnesota. :lmao :lmao :lmao
You know the league has to hate him for being so good seeings how all he does is rack up fines for cursing during interviews and gets on social media and goes all ooga booga muh dick
benefactor
06-18-2025, 04:17 PM
T-Wolves or Raptors it is.
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This is just more saber rattling. Durant holds all the cards here...and teams aren't just going to dump valuable assets for a one-year rental of him.
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 04:19 PM
T-Wolves or Raptors it is.
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These aggregated tweets are often a bit out of context. If you listen to where Amick actually talked about this, it wasn’t really like a “Phoenix officially doesn’t give a shit about KD’s preferences and has decided to trade him wherever” type of report.
Amick said that Phoenix started off only discussing to the teams on KD’s list. They then moved to also speaking to teams not on his list. That’s about the extent of it. I’m still skeptical that Toronto/Minnesota are actually offering the sort of packages that are being rumored, and I’m also skeptical that Phoenix would burn a veteran of KD’s stature + big-time agent by telling KD to kick rocks and go play in Minnesota.
I maintain that this is a bunch of posturing by Phoenix to try and get Houston/San Antonio to improve their offer. I think it’s pretty likely he ends up with one of those 2 Texas teams and not Minnesota/Toronto. Guess we’ll see soon enough.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 04:25 PM
Waiting to announce the trade until NBA Finals are over + Wemby/KD are in NY together, tbh.
Harper will be there too
itzsoweezee
06-18-2025, 04:27 PM
https://x.com/AkademiksTV/status/1935336605247557779
And then people wonder why KD doesn't want to go to Minnesota. :lmao :lmao :lmao
This is hilarious
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 04:27 PM
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Ice009
06-18-2025, 04:30 PM
T-Wolves or Raptors it is.
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Didn't someone here mention something about the Suns might move on to teams that aren't his preferred destinations?
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 04:30 PM
Barnes not going anywhere confirmed.
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I wouldn't be so sure
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Spurs are now a non-profit charitable organization, that occasionally plays basketball games.
we've been that for a while. Who else would gift Zach Collins 35 million dollars, Josh Primo 10 million, Doug McDermott the highest salary of his life, etc. etc.
CorrectCrusader
06-18-2025, 04:30 PM
Didn't someone here mention something about the Suns might move on to teams that aren't his preferred destinations?
It's just not gonna happen. KD can just refuse to re-sign with them.
Ice009
06-18-2025, 04:34 PM
It's just not gonna happen. KD can just refuse to re-sign with them.
Yeah, maybe. Does he have any say in the matter if he's traded elsewhere (apart from not signing an extension?). The phase 2 thing, though, not sure where I heard that before (maybe I dreamt it ;)). I'm sure I read or saw something somewhere about them moving onto a phase 2.
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 04:35 PM
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Just as I suspected. It would be incredibly ballsy for 1) a team to give up substantial pieces for a player that has made it clear he doesn’t want to be there…especially a veteran and future HOFer like KD, and 2) Phoenix to ship off a future HOFer after said HOFer made it clear he didn’t want to go there.
Relationships in this league matter. There’s a certain level of respect guys like KD garner due to their tenure and status. It’s not like they’re trading away some 25 year old who had a few good seasons. I really think they will do right by KD regardless of the current reporting…and again, if KD’s team is over there communicating to teams like Minnesota/Toronto telling them to back off, then I just don’t see them ignoring that request.
CorrectCrusader
06-18-2025, 04:35 PM
Yeah, maybe. Does he have any say in the matter if he's traded elsewhere (apart from not signing an extension?). The phase 2 thing, though, not sure where I heard that before (maybe I dreamt it ;)). I'm sure I read or saw something somewhere about them moving onto a phase 2.
I don't believe he has a no trade clause.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 04:44 PM
I like Barnes as much as anybody here, but the Spurs don't have a trove of assets. They need to monetize a veteran on an expiring. Business never personal.
I wouldn't be so sure
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we've been that for a while. Who else would gift Zach Collins 35 million dollars, Josh Primo 10 million, Doug McDermott the highest salary of his life, etc. etc.
Hey, I wouldn't be so harsh on the Primo deal. How would the Spurs know that Primo wore short shorts without underwear, especially when they refused to listen to the female therapist's complaints.
Leetonidas
06-18-2025, 04:45 PM
I wouldn't be so sure
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we've been that for a while. Who else would gift Zach Collins 35 million dollars, Josh Primo 10 million, Doug McDermott the highest salary of his life, etc. etc.
50 Mills, Demarre Carroll, making Vassell the highest paid Spur ever, picking up options a year early for Branham/Wesley etc etc
BatManu20
06-18-2025, 04:52 PM
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TD 21
06-18-2025, 04:53 PM
Just as I suspected. It would be incredibly ballsy for 1) a team to give up substantial pieces for a player that has made it clear he doesn’t want to be there…especially a veteran and future HOFer like KD, and 2) Phoenix to ship off a future HOFer after said HOFer made it clear he didn’t want to go there.
Relationships in this league matter. There’s a certain level of respect guys like KD garner due to their tenure and status. It’s not like they’re trading away some 25 year old who had a few good seasons. I really think they will do right by KD regardless of the current reporting…and again, if KD’s team is over there communicating to teams like Minnesota/Toronto telling them to back off, then I just don’t see them ignoring that request.
Mostly agree, but at least in the case of the Timberwolves, the Suns could spin it as them giving him a chance to compete for a championship (even though I'd argue they wouldn't be legit contenders).
Trueblood
06-18-2025, 04:53 PM
Didn't someone here mention something about the Suns might move on to teams that aren't his preferred destinations?
Yeah. They said both Houston and San Antonio’s standing offers are non starters got them. They’re asking a lot from what I’ve read and it doesn’t sound like Miami has made an offer yet. They may be waiting till the dust settles before seeing what they need to beat. So far word is the wolves have the best offer on the table and that’s sad considering what they have to offer. SA or Houston could trump their deal easily but I read they’re basically demanding #2 or Castle in any deal with us.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 04:58 PM
I don't think KD would extend with Houston or Miami either....
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 05:01 PM
I don't think KD would extend with Houston or Miami either....
from KDs perspective i think Miami makes more sense than Houston
Herro and Bam are good players who can take a lot of offensive pressure off KD, whereas in Houston, they are going to lean on Durant to carry their scoring load quite a bit. its going to be a lot of pressure on him and he's going to have to really grind to help that team win games.
but if he just has an affinity for texas thats another thing
Mugen
06-18-2025, 05:07 PM
Houston's biggest selling point is Ime tbh. Outside of Ime, the Rockets dont make much sense for Durant IMO.
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 05:17 PM
from KDs perspective i think Miami makes more sense than Houston
Herro and Bam are good players who can take a lot of offensive pressure off KD, whereas in Houston, they are going to lean on Durant to carry their scoring load quite a bit. its going to be a lot of pressure on him and he's going to have to really grind to help that team win games.
but if he just has an affinity for texas thats another thing
Miami makes zero sense. He has to be close to Austin to promote his WNBA expansion team. This is all planned for life after basketball. The Spurs play 2 games in Austin every season. Austin ain't far from San Antonio. The G-League team is in Austin. Just him attending games will give attention to that franchise. Then add him bringing Wemby to games. That's the whole gameplan, which is why he wants to go to the Spurs, among other reasons.
He'd be the number one option on the Heat and the Rockets. On the Spurs he won't.
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 05:18 PM
Miami makes zero sense. He has to be close to Austin to promote his WNBA expansion team. This is all planned for life after basketball. The Spurs play 2 games in Austin every season. Austin ain't far from San Antonio. The G-League team is in Austin. Just him attending games will give attention to that franchise. Then add him bringing Wemby to games. That's the whole gameplan, which is why he wants to go to the Spurs, among other reasons.
yeah i was just talkin about on the court stuff
but i mentioned at the end he may just have an affinity for texas for other reasons, so yeah
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 05:19 PM
Houston's biggest selling point is Ime tbh. Outside of Ime, the Rockets dont make much sense for Durant IMO.
I mean just looking at it very simply: they were just the #2 seed and most of their core should be better next year (Amen, Sengun, Jabari). Swapping out Jalen Green for KD is a pretty major upgrade for them. Good coach in Ime + would land him in Texas which seems like something he wants.
I’m biased so obviously I think SA gives him a better chance of contending next year + also gets him back to Texas (and closer to Austin, presumably where he’d like to be). But I can see why Houston makes sense.
TD 21
06-18-2025, 05:21 PM
Houston's biggest selling point is Ime tbh. Outside of Ime, the Rockets dont make much sense for Durant IMO.
Agreed. Media is being shortsighted because the Rockets are better than the Spurs at the moment, but with or without him, the former lacks the infrastructure and upside of the latter.
He's fringe All-NBA caliber, not MVP caliber anymore or the "closer" (on an aspiring championship contender) the Rockets need.
The Spurs have both of those things or will in short order, to render him more co-star and finisher than creator.
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 05:24 PM
Miami is the one that makes less sense to me. Even ignoring any of the geographic/off-court stuff, I just really don’t see Miami being a threat in the East next year even with KD playing at the level he was at last year. Maybe I’m selling them short or underestimating how Spoelsta could utilize a player like KD, but just seems like their supporting cast is a clear step back from Houston/SA’s.
I guess the East is wide open enough to where anything could happen, but if his focus is being on the best team next year Miami is a clear 3rd behind the two Texas teams.
Dejounte
06-18-2025, 05:29 PM
Wish my life was busier so all this nonsense doesn’t feel like it’s taking forever
RC_Drunkford
06-18-2025, 05:46 PM
per Sam Amick
So, you think we’re getting to a point of either a best-and-brightest offer all the way around, or could you see a dark horse coming in here—someone we haven’t talked about?” Sam Amick: “Well, it’s again the question of: does Kevin change his stance on any of the teams not on his list? Now, I keep making this distinction. My understanding is you have the list—the thing his camp chooses to leak to the media—and then you have the real stuff, which is what Kevin is telling people. And we’ve come across some of that, and there’s reason to believe he’s looking at San Antonio above the rest. Now, as you know, Dave, because you and I lived it with the Fox trade, we just saw how the Spurs had zero intention or willingness to give up anything on their roster—let alone anybody in their young core. I don’t know that that has changed all that much. The way it’s put to me: they’re not going to go all in to get Kevin.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdeoBeWlQk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdeoBeWlQk&t=107s
Guru of Nothing
06-18-2025, 06:01 PM
Is phase 1 wearing a Spiderman outfit?
Followup question: Is phase 2 wearing a Spiderman outfit?
Uriel
06-18-2025, 06:07 PM
It’s pretty obvious what’s going to happen next. Houston and San Antonio are going to posture and posture, and then come draft night, which is Phoenix’s declared deadline for the Durant trade, they’re going to give their best offer (along with all the other teams), say take it or leave it, and the Suns will pick the best one.
scottspurs
06-18-2025, 06:09 PM
Spurs were never going all in on Kevin Durant. I also don’t believe the rumors that the Spurs are not interested. Of course any team is interested in Durant at the right price. I’m just spitballing but this is what I think happened:
Kevin Durant gave the Suns his list of preferred teams.
Suns called those teams. Said Durant wants to be with you. Here is what we want.
On the Spurs call they asked for #2 and Castle. Spurs hang up. Suns call back okay #2 or Castle. Spurs make a counter offer. Something like Vassell/Barnes 14 or maybe Keldon/Barnes/Branham/Wesley and 14. Suns say no and say it’s castle or #2 or no deal. Spurs hang up.
Spurs are no longer answering the Suns calls. They have moved on and will revisit it on draft day. If the Suns call. Otherwise business as usual.
if this is how it went down it would make sense the reports of the spurs not being “seriously interested”
Guru of Nothing
06-18-2025, 06:10 PM
Current vibe is it's down to San Antonio, Houston, or a team offering KD at least $60M x2 on top of his 54M this season.
Probability is weighted equally, roughly, but if somebody offers 120M, it's a wrap. I believe Spurs have submitted final offer outside a token or two, and Houston is on the clock deciding if they want to outbid the Spurs.
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 06:11 PM
50 Mills, Demarre Carroll, making Vassell the highest paid Spur ever, picking up options a year early for Branham/Wesley etc etc
Man those are the weakest 'errors' in any franchise history. Lol
Leetonidas
06-18-2025, 06:13 PM
Man those are the weakest 'errors' in any franchise history. Lol
That wasn't a list of errors just recent examples of Spurs acting like a charity
Mikesatx
06-18-2025, 06:37 PM
The only reason for any team outside of the three to trade for Durant is if you think he gives you some chance at a title next year. Minny is the only team that I think that logic applies to but if Gobert & Divencenzo go out how good is that chance?
Over the years the Spurs were regularly used as the possible other landing spot for a player. Hell, San Antonio was used as the other city when other franchises wanted a stadium for their team.
All Phoenix has is this posturing. Trying to get one of the three teams to improve their offer and I think hoping that Durant adds more teams in fear of going somewhere he really doesn’t want to go.
I’ll be really surprised if we don’t get him.
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 07:00 PM
Miami is the one that makes less sense to me. Even ignoring any of the geographic/off-court stuff, I just really don’t see Miami being a threat in the East next year even with KD playing at the level he was at last year. Maybe I’m selling them short or underestimating how Spoelsta could utilize a player like KD, but just seems like their supporting cast is a clear step back from Houston/SA’s.
I guess the East is wide open enough to where anything could happen, but if his focus is being on the best team next year Miami is a clear 3rd behind the two Texas teams.
East is weak. Bam is a top 25-ish guy. herro just turned in a very strong season where he stayed healthy, produced with volume without sacrificing efficiency. and spo is still a great coach
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 07:06 PM
Yeah, I think Miami makes a good amount of sense, and as I've said parting with Ware is no big issue to me. Rocket make a lot of sense because they need a focal point shooter and their offense is already one-note and based on iso shot-chucking.
San Antonio doesn't totally make sense, sort of gilding the lily and with Harper coming in there's a question of shots going around.
mystargtr34
06-18-2025, 07:13 PM
Bam
KD
Highsmith/Jaquez or Jovic
Herro
Mitchell
That is probably good for 50 wins in a weak East.
Another positive it’s another team that will be better than the Hawks.
Hawks could easily be the fourth worst team in the East next season after Wiz, Charlotte, Brooklyn.
Philly should improve, as should Toronto, Chicago with a full season of Giddey is probably a tossup with Atlanta.
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 07:15 PM
Bam
KD
Highsmith/Jaquez or Jovic
Herro
Mitchell
That is probably good for 50 wins in a weak East.
Another positive it’s another team that will be better than the Hawks.
Hawks could easily be the fourth worst team in the East next season after Wiz, Charlotte, Brooklyn.
Philly should improve, as should Toronto, Chicago with a full season of Giddey is probably a tossup with Atlanta.
Agree generally but Atlanta should be top 6 and free from the play-ins. The East is going to be so bad, even with an improving Detroit, etc.
exstatic
06-18-2025, 09:03 PM
I mean just looking at it very simply: they were just the #2 seed and most of their core should be better next year (Amen, Sengun, Jabari). Swapping out Jalen Green for KD is a pretty major upgrade for them. Good coach in Ime + would land him in Texas which seems like something he wants.
I’m biased so obviously I think SA gives him a better chance of contending next year + also gets him back to Texas (and closer to Austin, presumably where he’d like to be). But I can see why Houston makes sense.
Th difference between #2 and #8 was four games. They were just younger and healthier.
ace3g
06-18-2025, 09:03 PM
https://x.com/OmerOsman200/status/1935517004787855497
MannyIsGod
06-18-2025, 09:07 PM
Exactly, the suns have absolutely no leverage. He's good, but he's old and he's expensive so what is the point to give up anything of real value?
spurraider21
06-18-2025, 09:45 PM
Amick now saying durant’s public list including houston and Miami is bologna. It’s just San Antonio on his list
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 09:48 PM
Amick now saying durant’s public list including houston and Miami is bologna. It’s just San Antonio on his list
Had kind of been getting those vibes since the Athletic article + the way this all started a couple weeks ago. Do you have a link to the Amick quote you’re referring to?
BatManu20
06-18-2025, 09:55 PM
Amick now saying durant’s public list including houston and Miami is bologna. It’s just San Antonio on his list
Yea he wants SA. His agent is likely asking them to do right by KD and trade him to SA which is why they're demanding Castle or the #2 Pick in return despite it being unrealistic, but we're not budging and they're growing increasingly frustrated and looking elsewhere. PHX has absolutely no leverage here though. I don't envy their position at all tbh.
1935526948492517427
ace3g
06-18-2025, 09:56 PM
Had kind of been getting those vibes since the Athletic article + the way this all started a couple weeks ago. Do you have a link to the Amick quote you’re referring to?
https://x.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1935528524602831161
Dverde
06-18-2025, 09:57 PM
So many different things being reported. So much spin and spam. This is the age of fake news. Everyone has multiple sources.
Dverde
06-18-2025, 09:59 PM
Yea he wants SA. His agent is likely asking them to do right by KD and trade him to SA which is why they're demanding Castle or the #2 Pick in return despite it being unrealistic, but we're not budging and they're growing increasingly frustrated and looking elsewhere. PHX has absolutely no leverage here though. I don't envy their position at all tbh.
1935526948492517427
The Spurs package isn’t that bad. Vassell a proven NBA rotation player, an expiring contract you can trade during the season, and #14 in a deep draft. If they want a haul they need to be trading booker.
timtonymanu
06-18-2025, 10:02 PM
Ready for this to be all over regardless.
"The Spurs are the favorites to land Durant."
"Oh wait they're not."
"The question is "will he wear #35 in San Antonio?""
"but wait he might go to the TWolves."
"He doesn't want the T-Wolves, he wants the Spurs."
Mr. Body
06-18-2025, 10:09 PM
Just give them a few SRPs to help 'save face' and let's move on.
SpursFan86
06-18-2025, 10:19 PM
Just give them a few SRPs to help 'save face' and let's move on.
At this point I’m really curious what we’ve actually offered. I wonder if Wright has tried just lowballing the fuck out of them so that at the end he can go, “Fine, we’ll do Vassell/Keldon/14” and make it seem like a big improvement :lol
100%duncan
06-18-2025, 10:20 PM
Damn, a top 30 player/top 5-8 PG forced his way to the Spurs just months ago. And now KD (yeah I get he's old but he's still KD and his numbers are still that) is out and about cockblocking all deals that aren't Spurs related. :lol
The Wemby effect is real ladies and gents.
sananspursfan21
06-18-2025, 10:38 PM
Damn, a top 30 player/top 5-8 PG forced his way to the Spurs just months ago. And now KD (yeah I get he's old but he's still KD and his numbers are still that) is out and about cockblocking all deals that aren't Spurs related. :lol
The Wemby effect is real ladies and gents.
I knew he’d draw some attention but I thought minimum it’d be like year 5 :lol
itzsoweezee
06-18-2025, 10:39 PM
Amick now saying durant’s public list including houston and Miami is bologna. It’s just San Antonio on his list
Where are you seeing this? Amick was on a podcast today and didn’t say it’s just San Antonio on KD’s list.
timtonymanu
06-18-2025, 10:42 PM
Damn, a top 30 player/top 5-8 PG forced his way to the Spurs just months ago. And now KD (yeah I get he's old but he's still KD and his numbers are still that) is out and about cockblocking all deals that aren't Spurs related. :lol
The Wemby effect is real ladies and gents.
We’re lucky they are Texas boys also! Just like how it was when LMA signed here.
Ditty
06-18-2025, 11:31 PM
Agree generally but Atlanta should be top 6 and free from the play-ins. The East is going to be so bad, even with an improving Detroit, etc.
Imo Cleveland, Boston (even without Tatum), New York, Indiana, MIL (think they will pull something out of their ass), Detroit, Orlando, Healthy Philly, and Miami with Durant will all be better than a healthy Hawks.
Not even counting the Bulls if they don't finally tank this season.
The Hawks will be in purgatory with Trae, don't see a big jump from Risacher yet and JJ can't stay healthy.
scottspurs
06-18-2025, 11:36 PM
Nobody knows the spurs offer for sure. Maybe they like this draft. They said as much after the lottery. Brian Wright and Mitch Johnson both said it’s a deep draft. Maybe the spurs are not offering 14
Maybe it’s salary filler Vassell + whatever and 2029 top 20 protected 1st. That would be similar to that the spurs got back for kawhi leonard. Similar situation. Maybe the spurs view themselves as the market setters for 1-year rental disgruntled superstars. They could argue that kawhi was in his prime even if there were questions about his injury. Or perhaps it’s the hawks pick in 2027 lottery protected.
Or perhaps the Spurs are pissed that their offer leaked from the Suns side and they don’t like their players being dragged through the rumors. So they pulled their offer.
Something is up. Maybe the spurs have other deals in the works they like better but they are holding out because they want the suns to crawl back with a desperate offer.
Regardless of what happened if I’m the spurs I’m not dealing with their shit anymore. Time to move on. If Durant is still available after the draft maybe they can revisit. I’m not picking a good prospect for the suns though. If they ask for whoever the spurs draft after the fact they can rot
Others have mentioned it, but it’s just so damn crazy to go from Lamarcus Aldridge and an expired Michael Finley being the only marquee free agent signings of the entire Duncan era to Fox and KD doing the same within a span of months for a 21 year old Wemby.
rascal
06-18-2025, 11:45 PM
Don't get Durant.
I don't want to be trying to win a title with a 39 or 40 year old Durant playing key minutes because you know he's going to sign that extension after one year.
Seventyniner
06-18-2025, 11:46 PM
Others have mentioned it, but it’s just so damn crazy to go from Lamarcus Aldridge and an expired Michael Finley being the only marquee free agent signings of the entire Duncan era to Fox and KD doing the same within a span of months for a 21 year old Wemby.
Technically Fox and KD are trades and not free agents, but you still have a point. Nowadays it's far more common for a big name player to change teams via trade instead of free agency.
scott
06-18-2025, 11:48 PM
Damn, a top 30 player/top 5-8 PG forced his way to the Spurs just months ago. And now KD (yeah I get he's old but he's still KD and his numbers are still that) is out and about cockblocking all deals that aren't Spurs related. :lol
The Wemby effect is real ladies and gents.
Are we sure it’s not the Mitch Johnson effect?
benefactor
06-19-2025, 01:59 AM
Don't get Durant.
I don't want to be trying to win a title with a 39 or 40 year old Durant playing key minutes because you know he's going to sign that extension after one year.
I'm going chug your tears like a ice cold bottle of water on a hot day when he walks through that door
RC_Drunkford
06-19-2025, 02:12 AM
Amick now saying durant’s public list including houston and Miami is bologna. It’s just San Antonio on his list
I've been saying this for over 2 weeks
benefactor
06-19-2025, 02:59 AM
.
100%duncan
06-19-2025, 03:57 AM
We’re lucky they are Texas boys also! Just like how it was when LMA signed here.
True. Hell that might be more than the Wemby effect, nonetheless though good for us.
99 Problems
06-19-2025, 05:17 AM
:pop: Oh yer, not long now. We won’t make 100 pages b4 we crack the champagne.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 05:30 AM
Hollinger:
I think this is just a classic Phoenix shit show. They thought they were gonna get stronger offers than they’re getting, and now they don’t really know what to do.
Duncan:
Do you think they just don’t trade him?
Hollinger:
I think it’s an option. They’re not required to. The only thing is he has one year left on his deal — he can be a free agent after the year — so he has some leverage. For Phoenix to walk away with nothing from KD is a tough one.
They still have this idea that they can probably contend for something, I guess? I don’t know how realistic they are at this point. Obviously they should tear it down, but it doesn’t seem like that’s what they’re doing.
Sounds about right.
cutewizard
06-19-2025, 09:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyiiRWEtnIM
poopbox
06-19-2025, 10:32 AM
Are we sure it’s not the Mitch Johnson effect?
Never thought about this :wow
Neither KD nor Fox wanted to come to SA until Mitch was the coach :wow
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 10:34 AM
Sounds about right.
You guys yelled at me when I said that Phoenix not trading Durant was a clear option for them.
djohn2oo8
06-19-2025, 10:42 AM
You guys yelled at me when I said that Phoenix not trading Durant was a clear option for them.
It’s absolutely not. They don’t have their picks so they will continue to be shit out of luck.
exstatic
06-19-2025, 10:45 AM
You guys yelled at me when I said that Phoenix not trading Durant was a clear option for them.
They have a number of options, good and bad. Not trading him falls into the latter category. How is it better to get nothing when he walks? You’re also pissing off the agency with the second most NBA players represented behind Klutch.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 10:50 AM
You guys yelled at me when I said that Phoenix not trading Durant was a clear option for them.
They have nothing to gain by keeping KD.
They aren't a legit playoff team, he'll be putting in minimal effort and then they'll get even less at the trade deadline.
Not to mention that it will ruin their reputation with the players.
SpursFan86
06-19-2025, 10:57 AM
They have a number of options, good and bad. Not trading him falls into the latter category. How is it better to get nothing when he walks? You’re also pissing off the agency with the second most NBA players represented behind Klutch.
Pretty much. Of course they don’t “have” to trade Durant, but how does keeping him possibly favor the Suns? KD is clearly pissed at their FO and wants out. High likelihood that malcontent bleeds into the locker room and/or his effort. Best case scenario he still goes and balls out, and then they trade him at the deadline…but then their return will be even worse than the offers they’re getting now.
Keeping Durant would just be being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn. There’s no actual benefit of that route aside from Ishbia being able to feel like he “won” vs. KD.
Dverde
06-19-2025, 11:15 AM
Today is the boys :bobo
Leetonidas
06-19-2025, 11:18 AM
Today is the boys :bobo
Doubt it. This trade won't be announced til the finals are over imo
baseline bum
06-19-2025, 11:23 AM
Maybe it’s salary filler Vassell + whatever and 2029 top 20 protected 1st. That would be similar to that the spurs got back for kawhi leonard. Similar situation.
Nah that's way better than what the Spurs got in the Kawhi trade considering they also had to send out a still top 5 perimeter defender in Danny Green.
scottspurs
06-19-2025, 11:26 AM
Nah that's way better than what the Spurs got in the Kawhi trade considering they also had to send out a still top 5 perimeter defender in Danny Green.
Damn I forgot about Danny. To bad the Suns don’t have any affordable useful vets lol
scottspurs
06-19-2025, 11:27 AM
Make them throw Ryan Dunn in the deal lol
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 11:27 AM
Today is the boys :bobo
Tomorrow.
scottspurs
06-19-2025, 11:29 AM
Tomorrow never dies
quentin_compson
06-19-2025, 11:36 AM
Tomorrow Never Came (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHUWYrqf6c&pp=ygUgdG9tb3Jyb3cgbmV2ZXIgY2FtZSBsYW5hIGRlbCByZXk %3D)
Dverde
06-19-2025, 11:44 AM
Tomorrow.
The day after yesterday is today.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 11:52 AM
Half-assed it in a minute, but you get the point. :lol
https://i.imgur.com/if8yD3Y.jpeg
spurraider21
06-19-2025, 12:05 PM
Edge of Tomorrow is one of the more underrapreciated movies I can remember
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 12:08 PM
Edge of Tomorrow is one of the more underrapreciated movies I can remember
It's pretty great. Emily Blunt, man. If she was the hero or if they had someone but Tom Cruise, it would have been much better. He's also not good for Oblivion, which also has its value. Actually, Minority Report, too. Thoughtful sci-fi, he just doesn't work in them.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 12:13 PM
Charania shares an update on the Spurs and Kevin Durant: "There's a certain price threshold they'll go to for a guy like Kevin Durant, and if that price doesn't align with Phoenix's, then clearly there's just not going to be a deal."
Does he really he'll look dumb when Suns accept the offer on the draft night?
SpursFan86
06-19-2025, 12:22 PM
Yeah, Shams on ESPN reporting that Houston/Miami/Minnesota are the only teams in active negotiations with Phoenix.
spursistan
06-19-2025, 12:24 PM
Does he really he'll look dumb when Suns accept the offer on the draft night?
This is where Woj was superior at his craft than Shams. He's way too subtle and more sophisticated at messaging than Sharania who is coming off like a dumb stenographer for Ishbia and various other people in different situations..
Leetonidas
06-19-2025, 12:27 PM
Tinfoil hat theory: Spurs/Suns have a deal in place. Durant told them and other teams he only will play in SA. All of this is for show to avoid any fines ala Lillard and so that Phoenix can save some kind of face. Deal will be announced over the weekend
spurraider21
06-19-2025, 12:27 PM
It's pretty great. Emily Blunt, man. If she was the hero or if they had someone but Tom Cruise, it would have been much better. He's also not good for Oblivion, which also has its value. Actually, Minority Report, too. Thoughtful sci-fi, he just doesn't work in them.
brilliant decision to keep replaying her push-up scene
scottspurs
06-19-2025, 12:28 PM
Good don’t play the Suns game. Maybe there is something else in the works! Lots of surprising younger names could be under the radar available.
Seventyniner
06-19-2025, 12:31 PM
Does he really he'll look dumb when Suns accept the offer on the draft night?
Not really, it would just mean the Suns caved.
Gagnrath
06-19-2025, 12:42 PM
Phoenix isn't getting #2 in the draft..... They're lucky to get #14 but a mid first rounder isn't availible, they also get their choice of Devin or Keldon + a second rounder or Bassey.
Guru of Nothing
06-19-2025, 12:46 PM
Yeah, Shams on ESPN reporting that Houston/Miami/Minnesota are the only teams in active negotiations with Phoenix.
Which makes perfect sense if Spurs have submitted their final offer. Just a matter of whether another team can beat it.
Tinfoil hat theory: Spurs/Suns have a deal in place. Durant told them and other teams he only will play in SA. All of this is for show to avoid any fines ala Lillard and so that Phoenix can save some kind of face. Deal will be announced over the weekend
I don't think the Suns and the Spurs have a deal in place. The continual media obsession over the Durant trade would only continue to highlight how little the Suns got. I think the Suns are doing everything they can to try and increase Durant's value, but it is backfiring.
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 12:47 PM
Know when to hold them
Know when to fold them
Know when to walk away
spursistan
06-19-2025, 12:48 PM
True. Hell that might be more than the Wemby effect, nonetheless though good for us.
It is the Wemby effect and nothing else, tbh..
*no-state taxes! :cry* ( as if star players only discovered this market reality right now)
*players want to play for Pop :cry* ( Yeah they are flocking here the moment he's gone)
On the Wemby gravy train, there is massive visibility for secondary stars: guaranteed 20+ National TV games every season + deep playoffs runs with all advertising/sponsorship opportunities it brings with it...It is about the bank account as much as its about winning. Kyrie Irving's career and stature around the league would be totally different if he he didn't hitch his wagon to Lebron between 2014 and 2017
lefty20
06-19-2025, 01:07 PM
Just trynna do my part to get this trade done by helping this thread reach 100 pgs.
benefactor
06-19-2025, 02:02 PM
Just trynna do my part to get this trade done by helping this thread reach 100 pgs.
tbh
lefty
06-19-2025, 02:15 PM
https://x.com/patsinformative/status/1935746960490643792
CorrectCrusader
06-19-2025, 02:16 PM
https://x.com/patsinformative/status/1935746960490643792
Funny
mo7888
06-19-2025, 02:19 PM
https://x.com/patsinformative/status/1935746960490643792
Man...don't do that to me...lol
I'd rather have Vassell over Jaylen Brown.
SpursFan86
06-19-2025, 02:21 PM
There aren’t many ways the Spurs could fuck up their current situation given the existing roster + future draft capital…trading for Jaylen Brown would be one of them though :lol Wouldn’t touch that contract with a 10 foot pole.
Half-assed it in a minute, but you get the point. :lol
https://i.imgur.com/if8yD3Y.jpeg
Chat gpt is your friend
https://i.ibb.co/bgRBtv9s/0-A5-F9-AF9-D554-4494-820-F-1-F3-A90-CB4-CCF.png (https://ibb.co/N6njRNB9)
heyheymymy
06-19-2025, 02:22 PM
there is KD to the spurs buzz
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 02:23 PM
There aren’t many ways the Spurs could fuck up their current situation given the existing roster + future draft capital…trading for Jaylen Brown would be one of them though :lol Wouldn’t touch that contract with a 10 foot pole.
I legit wouldn't take Jaylen Brown for just salary match, his contract will be the worst in the league in a few years.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 02:25 PM
Chat gpt is your friend
As I wrote before, Spurstalk is the Imperium in Warhammer and timvp is the Emperor.
The whole idea of the Emperor is that you don't know whether he's alive or dead. The whole Imperium might be running on superstition. There's no guarantee that the Emperor is anything other than a corpse with a residual mental ability. It's got some parallels with religious beliefs and principles.
The Imperium strictly prohibits every form of AI.
I don't know what most of those words mean, nerd.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 02:32 PM
I don't know what most of those words mean, nerd.
:lol
It's one of my favorite SciFi settings, I'm not a nerd because I've been following it since I was a kid.
Henry Cavill is it's biggest fan and is producing a show for Amazon, I expect it to be space version of GOT.
On a more serious note, I fucking hate AI because predictably people started using it for all the wrong things and it will eventually lead to humanity getting even dumber.
heyheymymy
06-19-2025, 02:44 PM
I expect it to be space version of GOT.
I'm listening
Ice009
06-19-2025, 02:51 PM
There aren’t many ways the Spurs could fuck up their current situation given the existing roster + future draft capital…trading for Jaylen Brown would be one of them though :lol Wouldn’t touch that contract with a 10 foot pole.
I knew that was fake, but man, I still didn't like reading it.
exstatic
06-19-2025, 02:51 PM
Edge of Tomorrow is one of the more underrapreciated movies I can remember
The first time he tried to roll under the army truck was chef’s kiss.
CorrectCrusader
06-19-2025, 02:53 PM
As I wrote before, Spurstalk is the Imperium in Warhammer and timvp is the Emperor.
The whole idea of the Emperor is that you don't know whether he's alive or dead. The whole Imperium might be running on superstition. There's no guarantee that the Emperor is anything other than a corpse with a residual mental ability. It's got some parallels with religious beliefs and principles.
The Imperium strictly prohibits every form of AI.
Instead of sacrificing psykers we're sacrificing the braincells of the spurstalk users to keep timvp alive
exstatic
06-19-2025, 02:58 PM
Filler post for 100 pages
Manu20
06-19-2025, 02:59 PM
https://x.com/esidery/status/1935771385999106321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Young player you say.....Would this be too much for Durant? For the record I'm firmly in the "I want Durant Camp" but I will be fine not getting him as it would mean Harper will initially get more offensive responsibilities to start the new season.
Devin, Keldon, 14th pick, 2027 Atlanta pick Lottery Protected.
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 03:00 PM
I mean supposedly that's what the Spurs have been offering unless they haven't been including part of it
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 03:01 PM
I mean player, player, and pick
maybe a future pick, such as the Atlanta 27 pick, but protected, are the last chip the spurs would throw in but are waiting for the right moment to offer it.
Robz4000
06-19-2025, 03:02 PM
Guess I'll do my part tbh.
Manu20
06-19-2025, 03:03 PM
I mean supposedly that's what the Spurs have been offering unless they haven't been including part of it
From what I have read, I have not seen the Atlanta 2027 pick mention a whole lot. On the Atlanta pick I would go as far as 1-10 protected.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 03:06 PM
These so called journalists are running out of things to reprt, tbh.
They can have either Devin, Barnes and #14 with a handful of SRPs or Jeremy added in there instead of #14.
Manu20
06-19-2025, 03:06 PM
maybe a future pick, such as the Atlanta 27 pick, but protected, are the last chip the spurs would throw in but are waiting for the right moment to offer it.
Could be, the reason I would throw in that pick is that if Castle and Harper are the players we think will be, the Spurs will be set for the next 10 years! Good times ahead for us Spurs fans!!!
CorrectCrusader
06-19-2025, 03:07 PM
https://x.com/esidery/status/1935771385999106321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Young player you say.....Would this be too much for Durant? For the record I'm firmly in the "I want Durant Camp" but I will be fine not getting him as it would mean Harper will initially get more offensive responsibilities to start the new season.
Devin, Keldon, 14th pick, 2027 Atlanta pick Lottery Protected.
Suns are ran by morons. It's obvious to anyone with an intelligent brain that the suns have zero leverage. All it takes is one "KD refuses to resign with any team other than X" and they get maximum of a salary swap and a few seconds
objective
06-19-2025, 03:14 PM
Supposedly one of the offers was without Devin or Sochan, i.e. Barnes, Keldon, Malaki and Wesley or something similar. In that scenario, there's arguably only one young starter, Keldon
So this current leak could be Phoenix desperately begging SA to at least add Vassell or Sochan so they can save face with getting 2 young starters for 1 old one plus 14 or ATL 27.
Somewhat amusing
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 03:15 PM
From what I have read, I have not seen the Atlanta 2027 pick mention a whole lot. On the Atlanta pick I would go as far as 1-10 protected.
I meant to point to the player plus player plus the 14. AFAIK that's all they've been offering, which this suggests Phx would accept.
So this implies that hasn't been offered unless the Suns don't want Barnes and want say Keldon instead
djohn2oo8
06-19-2025, 03:16 PM
https://x.com/esidery/status/1935771385999106321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Young player you say.....Would this be too much for Durant? For the record I'm firmly in the "I want Durant Camp" but I will be fine not getting him as it would mean Harper will initially get more offensive responsibilities to start the new season.
Devin, Keldon, 14th pick, 2027 Atlanta pick Lottery Protected.
Sidery is a cocksmoker and has been wrong every tweet. Phoenix has no leverage because they want in on the draft this year.
https://x.com/esidery/status/1935771385999106321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Young player you say.....Would this be too much for Durant? For the record I'm firmly in the "I want Durant Camp" but I will be fine not getting him as it would mean Harper will initially get more offensive responsibilities to start the new season.
Devin, Keldon, 14th pick, 2027 Atlanta pick Lottery Protected.
https://i.imgur.com/fybYkS5.jpeg
Ishbia when he realizes they aren't going to get what they want, and nobody gives a shit about them "drawing a line" when you've already got a disgruntled star (who happens to be pushing 40) who you have tried to trade multiple times
objective
06-19-2025, 03:21 PM
And as far as keeping Durant, Suns might think they would have leverage in a sign and trade next summer. No team that can free up $60 million in cap room will pay it to Durant.
Even the Spurs if they let go of cap holds like Sochan and maybe dump Keldon can't free up more than $40 million from what I've heard though I haven't done the math myself yet
Suns might think he'll play hard until the deadline before shutting it down with an injury real or otherwise and that'll still be enough to replicate this season, missing a play in. And if Durant walks completely, they get well under the tax. If they do a sign and trade, they can still get picks anyway.
Not the smartest way to do things but I can see it happening, crazed owner getting prideful and taking his ball and going home if he feels teams are being unfair.
Guru of Nothing
06-19-2025, 03:36 PM
I'm listening
Supernova is coming.
https://x.com/esidery/status/1935771385999106321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Young player you say.....Would this be too much for Durant? For the record I'm firmly in the "I want Durant Camp" but I will be fine not getting him as it would mean Harper will initially get more offensive responsibilities to start the new season.
Devin, Keldon, 14th pick, 2027 Atlanta pick Lottery Protected.
They've said that already. For weeks. It's gotten old, Ishbia/Sidery/Sharms
Spurs Homer
06-19-2025, 03:38 PM
what are the odds that the #14 pick will contribute immediately?
why would the spurs give it away for 1 possibly "fallen off the cliff" durant seasons?
and to add insult to injury - letting barnes go - who did everything he was asked to do and more?
dont get it...
We're so close boys, so very very close
to #100. This trade ain't never happening tbh
Ice009
06-19-2025, 03:44 PM
to #100. This trade ain't never happening tbh
You could be right. I think we need to at least get the pages to 100 before tomorrow.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 03:47 PM
You could be right. I think we need to at least get the pages to 100 before tomorrow.
Fox trade happened at page 106, just saying...
benefactor
06-19-2025, 03:48 PM
I'm here to assist with 100
Ice009
06-19-2025, 03:52 PM
Fox trade happened at page 106, just saying...
Thanks for the heads up. Didn't remember that.
scott
06-19-2025, 03:52 PM
Will add this here in addition to the Images thread, to help with the page count
https://i.imgur.com/UCPzCd6.jpeg
RC_Drunkford
06-19-2025, 04:00 PM
https://x.com/patsinformative/status/1935746960490643792
we all know Brian Wright ain’t that stupid
This is where Woj was superior at his craft than Shams. He's way too subtle and more sophisticated at messaging than Sharania who is coming off like a dumb stenographer for Ishbia and various other people in different situations..
Interesting. He's a pup. I trust he'll figure it out, not this year obviously
https://i.ibb.co/9HqW93gq/6-C63267-B-A6-F4-4226-BDF3-A47-C8-B2-F1-DE4.png (https://ibb.co/k2hXg6Bh)
CorrectCrusader
06-19-2025, 04:10 PM
Reading the suns subreddit is so funny. Their fans are delusional
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 04:11 PM
Reading the suns subreddit is so funny. Their fans are delusional
It's not liks Spurs subreddit is much better. :lol
Or any subreddit.
If not for spurstalk, there wouldn't be a single place to talk about the team that's not overrun by overwhelming amount of homerism.
CorrectCrusader
06-19-2025, 04:13 PM
It's not liks Spurs subreddit is much better. :lol
Or any subreddit.
If not for spurstalk, there wouldn't be a single place to talk about the team that's not overrun by overwhelming amount of homerism.
Yeah I avoid the spurs subreddit at all costs. Ran by freaks & the users aren't any better
TD 21
06-19-2025, 04:14 PM
maybe a future pick, such as the Atlanta 27 pick, but protected, are the last chip the spurs would throw in but are waiting for the right moment to offer it.
Another option is to offer the Mavericks to relinquish '30 swap rights for Gafford + matching salary to get the Suns a starting C.
Teamduncan21
06-19-2025, 04:24 PM
Another option is to offer the Mavericks to relinquish '30 swap rights for Gafford + matching salary to get the Suns a starting C.
We kind want gafford though
TD 21
06-19-2025, 04:26 PM
We kind want gafford though
Over Durant?
Spurs offense can't afford another non shooter that's a guaranteed 25ish mpg player.
LeBowen
06-19-2025, 04:28 PM
Over Durant?
Spurs offense can't afford another non shooter that's a guaranteed 25ish mpg player.
Spurs defense can't afford not having a legit backup big.
The only way Mavs get their swap back is if we get both Washington and Gafford, with Vassell going their way.
spurraider21
06-19-2025, 04:38 PM
cmon. we need everybody to contribute here
https://media.tenor.com/AOB-X8rvkx4AAAAM/monday-rosh-hashanah.gif
Robz4000
06-19-2025, 04:40 PM
cmon. we need everybody to contribute here
https://media.tenor.com/AOB-X8rvkx4AAAAM/monday-rosh-hashanah.gif
\o/
Chillen
06-19-2025, 04:45 PM
Kevin Durant would look so badass in a Spurs jersey.
Leetonidas
06-19-2025, 04:49 PM
cmon. we need everybody to contribute here
https://media.tenor.com/AOB-X8rvkx4AAAAM/monday-rosh-hashanah.gif
https://i.ibb.co/prxzcg57/5e9sr4br7pve1.gif
I leave it to you, Brian Wright...
ninjaskrzypek
06-19-2025, 04:49 PM
Haven’t posted in years. Here to help the push to 100
timtonymanu
06-19-2025, 04:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/9HqW93gq/6-C63267-B-A6-F4-4226-BDF3-A47-C8-B2-F1-DE4.png (https://ibb.co/k2hXg6Bh)
This is great :lol
RC_Drunkford
06-19-2025, 04:54 PM
Shams doing everything he can to help his man Ishbia :lol
1935742649430114568
1935742651380400244
NASpurs
06-19-2025, 04:55 PM
cmon. we need everybody to contribute here
https://media.tenor.com/AOB-X8rvkx4AAAAM/monday-rosh-hashanah.gif
https://i.imgur.com/grIPDHp.png
djohn2oo8
06-19-2025, 04:56 PM
Shams doing everything he can to help his man Ishbia :lol
1935742649430114568
1935742651380400244
Phoenix would have made a deal already if they had one they liked
ismael-robert
06-19-2025, 04:58 PM
What's the Spurs plan when he falls apart and we gave up some younger talent to get him? 1 to 2 yrs from now
Chillen
06-19-2025, 05:00 PM
Just ate a small bag of lays thinking of Durant in a Spurs jersey.
Degoat
06-19-2025, 05:04 PM
I got 99 pages but a KD ain’t one.
Light
06-19-2025, 05:07 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/m/zJvexdmTjA4AAAAd/im-doing-my-part-serious.gif
kjhip1
06-19-2025, 05:10 PM
Drive for 100….
ace3g
06-19-2025, 05:12 PM
https://x.com/RunItBackFDTV/status/1935748836762243202
https://wp.clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Spurs-trade-proposal-lands-Kevin-Durant-from-Suns-this-offseason.jpg?w=1200
RC_Drunkford
06-19-2025, 05:15 PM
19:30 -Spurs have a price threshold and that's that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Zle39iAv4
timtonymanu
06-19-2025, 05:16 PM
https://i.ibb.co/BHBdgBP9/Durant-and-Wemby.png
We can do it!
tonight...you
06-19-2025, 05:18 PM
Haven’t posted in years. Here to help the push to 100
https://media.tenor.com/fBywNl-gmdIAAAAM/starship-troopers.gif
It's delicious knowing there are Suns fans watching this thread, hating life.
It will be delicious for them when we don't get KD.
https://x.com/RunItBackFDTV/status/1935748836762243202
If Durant doesn't end up in San Antonio, I would love to see him end up in Minnesota just because it would be a total shit-show.
Giving up Gobert blows up their defense (in the regular season), and Durant is known to be moody so I'm sure he would love playing for a team he specifically said he doesn't want to play for. Good luck with all that, one less team to worry about.
Just don't want him to go to the Rockets because fuck Houston.
Only 9 more posts to go ...
Kindergarten Cop
06-19-2025, 05:21 PM
Shams doing everything he can to help his man Ishbia :lol
1935742649430114568
1935742651380400244
It certainly is odd to see how hard Shams is pushing this narrative.
Leetonidas
06-19-2025, 05:21 PM
https://i.ibb.co/BHBdgBP9/Durant-and-Wemby.png
We can do it!
Victor's eyes :lol
Ocotillo
06-19-2025, 05:22 PM
I guess I should post some huge jpeg to push it to 100 but I won't
all these posts fucking up the countdown ...
Do they announce the trade after 100 pages?
Kindergarten Cop
06-19-2025, 05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/SpursNation_SA/status/1935123008810631172
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 05:24 PM
Do they announce the trade after 100 pages?
Yep, the NBA is waiting for SpursTalk. Keep it up.
NASpurs
06-19-2025, 05:26 PM
We did it boys.
Shams is preparing the Durant to Spurs tweet as we speak.
Kindergarten Cop
06-19-2025, 05:26 PM
Yep, the NBA is waiting for SpursTalk. Keep it up.
Mr. Body for the win!
Announcement incoming in 4, 3, 2, .....
Dejounte
06-19-2025, 05:28 PM
100th page post by a legend- Dejounte reporting in
Mr. Body for the win!
Announcement incoming in 4, 3, 2, .....
https://media1.tenor.com/m/g8eXtlVGRUsAAAAd/well-were-waiting-sarcastic.gif
baseline bum
06-19-2025, 05:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dTLeM1K1E
What's the Spurs plan when he falls apart and we gave up some younger talent to get him? 1 to 2 yrs from now
Vassell takes up Harper and Castles minutes. It's a positive moving him for your core. Maybe he sticks around and learns how to play in a system and his shot goes back up, but at this point it's him or Castle/Harper minutes.
14 is tough to lose in such a nice draft, but you gotta make moves to go for a ring. It worked for the thunder while they have their top guys under small contracts. Spurs gotta do the same before they all get those pay days.
SpursFan86
06-19-2025, 05:37 PM
Alright, trade should be getting announced any moment now that we’re at 100…
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 05:42 PM
I've got word the NBA is getting a bite to eat. They'll announce the trade right after.
Seventyniner
06-19-2025, 05:42 PM
I must have different view settings it's only page 63 for me.
I must have different view settings it's only page 63 for me.
:lol this guy doesn't know how to use AOL
spurraider21
06-19-2025, 06:03 PM
they're not going to announce the trade on the day of an nba finals game. i do think the unofficialy deadline is going to be about midday tuesday though. by then teams are going to want finality going into the draft
mo7888
06-19-2025, 06:03 PM
If Durant doesn't end up in San Antonio, I would love to see him end up in Minnesota just because it would be a total shit-show.
Giving up Gobert blows up their defense (in the regular season), and Durant is known to be moody so I'm sure he would love playing for a team he specifically said he doesn't want to play for. Good luck with all that, one less team to worry about.
Just don't want him to go to the Rockets because fuck Houston.
I want him in Toronto if he doesn't come here.
SpursFan86
06-19-2025, 06:04 PM
they're not going to announce the trade on the day of an nba finals game. i do think the unofficialy deadline is going to be about midday tuesday though. by then teams are going to want finality going into the draft
If this shit isn’t wrapped up by the end of the weekend I’m going to lose it tbh
Degoat
06-19-2025, 06:08 PM
If this isn’t settled by the time of the draft, the Suns severely dropped the ball lol
If this shit isn’t wrapped up by the end of the weekend I’m going to lose it tbh
Be prepared to lose it. :wakeup
Robz4000
06-19-2025, 06:29 PM
Need tspence or wojtek up in this bitch tbh.
benefactor
06-19-2025, 06:32 PM
Kinda sad seeing Shams willingly trade away some of his insider card to be a ballwasher for Phoenix. I'm wondering if he's starting to regret becoming a company man. I just feels awkward for him.
100%duncan
06-19-2025, 06:36 PM
The real push is the push to 106 pages
Kinda sad seeing Shams willingly trade away some of his insider card to be a ballwasher for Phoenix. I'm wondering if he's starting to regret becoming a company man. I just feels awkward for him.
ESPN lost both Woj and Lowe (both amazing reporters). Wojnarowski chose to get out of the business.
I do like Brian Windhorst. I feel like he tries to stay pretty fair and unbiased, and generally means well.
Shams...the jury is still out. It's hard to be the next Woj, especially when you are expected to be the BREAKING NEWS guy.
exstatic
06-19-2025, 06:42 PM
Kinda sad seeing Shams willingly trade away some of his insider card to be a ballwasher for Phoenix. I'm wondering if he's starting to regret becoming a company man. I just feels awkward for him.
Yeah,he’s losing credibility by doing this.
couchman
06-19-2025, 06:51 PM
Checking in to add to the thread and see if we have KD yet :lobt2:
Guru of Nothing
06-19-2025, 07:03 PM
Is it today yet?
mo7888
06-19-2025, 07:14 PM
Is it today yet?
Nope...that's tomorrow
Mr. Body
06-19-2025, 07:15 PM
Nope...that's tomorrow
Confirming. Tomorrow.
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