Phoenix Suns expect to part ways with Kevin Durant this offseason. Could the Spurs be a good landing place?

[Dex]

Confirming. Tomorrow.

Tomorrow never comes.

It will always be today.

[benefactor]

ESPN lost both Woj and Lowe (both amazing reporters). Wojnarowski chose to get out of the business.

I do like Brian Windhorst. I feel like he tries to stay pretty fair and unbiased, and generally means well.

Shams...the jury is still out. It's hard to be the next Woj, especially when you are expected to be the BREAKING NEWS guy.
Woj peaked at Yahoo. ESPN ruins real news people. They would rather have retards like Stephen A. and Pat McAfee pushing their content. It was awkward as fuck watching Shams on McAfees show while him and his pack or retards grilled him about trade information.

[spurraider21]

Woj peaked at Yahoo. ESPN ruins real news people. They would rather have retards like Stephen A. and Pat McAfee pushing their content. It was awkward as fuck watching Shams on McAfees show while him and his pack or retards grilled him about trade information.
mcafee was fun for a month or two but after a while its just the same fratboy jock shtick and wears thin pretty quick

this is where mcafee peaked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f13ahvYl0PE

[SpursFan86]

If the theory is that they don’t want to announce the trade during the Finals, we could be looking at a Monday announcement :bang Hopefully they’ll do it tomorrow or Saturday and let it digest before Sunday’s game 7.

[scott]

Kevin Durant would look so badass in a Spurs jersey.

Unless it were the Bill Miller city edition or the 2nd grade art project SATX statement jerseys... no one looks good in those :lol

Thank god we are scrapping them and choosing to be a serious franchise again

[baseline bum]

Unless it were the Bill Miller city edition

Which were those? :lol

[scott]

Which were those? :lol

The bullshit we've been wearing the last two years. Shout of exstatic for dubbing them Bill Miller editions

[Blizzardwizard]

this might go 150+ pages before a deal gets done


can't wait for this thread and Gutless Worms to get bumped when he drops 30 PTS/10 REB/5 AST on us at toyota center in january :lol

[baseline bum]

The bullshit we've been wearing the last two years. Shout of exstatic for dubbing them Bill Miller editions

Oh I always thought of this year's as the leisure suit jerseys

[MannyIsGod]

Unless it were the Bill Miller city edition or the 2nd grade art project SATX statement jerseys... no one looks good in those :lol

Thank god we are scrapping them and choosing to be a serious franchise again

lmao that's actually a perfect name for the one for the last two years.

[exstatic]

Oh I always thought of this year's as the leisure suit jerseys

Bill Miller, washed with new blue jeans.

[T Park]

Woj peaked at Yahoo. ESPN ruins real news people. They would rather have retards like Stephen A. and Pat McAfee pushing their content. It was awkward as fuck watching Shams on McAfees show while him and his pack or retards grilled him about trade information.

McAfee is one of the best things to happen to ESPN.


He doesn’t do bullshit hot takes or any other horse shit.

[baseline bum]

Bill Miller, washed with new blue jeans.

The Spurs seriously said this year's jerseys were inspired by the shitty blue leisure suits of 1968 :lol

[Spurs Homer]

They just asked trump how long does he think before the nba announces where kevin durant will play next season and trump said…

”two weeks!”

[Mr. Body]

They just asked trump how long does he think before the nba announces where kevin durant will play next season and trump said…

”two weeks!”

Which happens first, Trump drops a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Durant gets traded?

[mo7888]

Which happens first, Trump drops a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Durant gets traded?

Trump talks and always chickens out...so my money is on KD... I just don't know where...

[Robz4000]

Calling it now: Suns hold on to KD and their entire season is a shitshow.

[Chillen]

If say his one destination is Spurs and it's 100% sure. If Suns don't like what the Spurs are offering and he won't commit to no other team than Spurs than they can just hold off on trading him till the NBA trade deadline when they could trade him to any team for a half a season. If they don't trade him than that's likely what will happen.

[99 Problems]

:pop: Okay Okay it won’t be long now, get yourselves ready…..

[quentin_compson]

I must have different view settings it's only page 63 for me.

Well, if the trade doesn't happen, it will be on you!

[cutewizard]

Booooooooooooooooooom!

[CGD]

Trump talks and always chickens out...so my money is on KD... I just don't know where...

#TACO

[CGD]

Calling it now: Suns hold on to KD and their entire season is a shitshow.

You may be right LOL.

[Dverde]

I have it on good authority that today is the day that we enter the third phase.

[Dverde]

Suns did a work out with Danny Wolf. Wolf seems like a reach at #10, but just right at #14 :eyebrows

https://x.com/esidery/status/1936026853506269336?s=46

[CGD]

Suns did a work out with Danny Wolf. Wolf seems like a reach at #10, but just right at #14 :eyebrows

https://x.com/esidery/status/1936026853506269336?s=46

Better pick at #17 tbh

[sfernald]

Better pick at #17 tbh

Even better @ #20

[sfernald]

Oh you guys have just been replaced by ChatGPT. Please leave your keycards at the door as you are exited from the building:





The Celestial Catapult of Kevin “Gravity-Defying” Durant’s Cosmic Canapé
The Byzantine Ballet of Kevin “Slim Reaper” Durant’s Interstellar Teacup
The Kaleidoscopic Kazoo of Kevin Durant’s Olympian Jellybean Jamboree
The Neon Necktie of Kevin “Thunderstruck” Durant’s Lunar Lollapalooza
The Quantum Quesadilla of Kevin “30000‑Point” Durant’s Galactic Gondola
The Baroque Banana of Kevin Durant’s Time-Traveling Topiary
The Venetian Vortex of Kevin “NBA Scoring Titan” Durant’s Martian Macaron
The Hypersonic Hot-air- Balloon of Kevin Durant’s Chrono‑Coconut Cabaret
The Surreal Soufflé of Kevin “Olympic Gold” Durant’s Galaxy-Goose Gala
The Turbulent Tutu of Kevin Durant’s Interdimensional Ice‑Cream Igloo

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/0E6MtJTgfLc?si=3OLnT9EVRkSlKTD5

[Dverde]

Even better @ #20

My point is he’ll be there at #14. OKC at #15 have been mocked to take him in some mock drafts.

[cutewizard]

Small Forwards All Time

1) Bird

2) Durant

3) Pippen

[Dverde]

Small Forwards All Time

1) Bird

2) Durant

3) Pippen

173) Gay

[Pauleta14]

Man I want KD more than ever now. He'd be invested in my 2 childhood teams...

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1936068530341855356

[sfernald]

My point is he’ll be there at #14. OKC at #15 have been mocked to take him in some mock drafts.

I personally don’t think he goes until the 20s but he’s definitely all over draft boards so a higher pick will always be more enticing for suns whomever they want.

[Pauleta14]

Small Forwards All Time

1) Bird

2) Durant

3) Pippen

If you talk career ok but if you talk talent, Tracy McGrady is the most talented that ever played bb

[BatManu20]

As of an hour ago.:stirpot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gt5BfMPXYAAW-c2?format=jpg&name=medium

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gt5GgasW8AAUcoK?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ice009]

Man I want KD more than ever now. He'd be invested in my 2 childhood teams...

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1936068530341855356

What is his connection to these teams.

Just realized, maybe he made the connections when he was in France for the Olympics?

[KayBee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNaJG0XJaRE

[Dejounte]

Todays the day

[spursistan]

KD to the Spurs to play with Wemby has a large post-career business angle to it.. I would be shocked if he isn't a Spur in next 3-4 days.

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1936068530341855356

[Pauleta14]

What is his connection to these teams.

Just realized, maybe he made the connections when he was in France for the Olympics?

His involvement with PSG was prior to the Olympics, but it used to be a small % from a hedge fund that bought a 12% of PSG.

It's changing into a direct (small) participation and more importantly his involvement in the future PSG Basket, a club/Franchise that could be the start of NBA Europe.

PSG is already multi sports, having women football, Judo and Handball and we're all been waiting/hoping for the PSG Basket

There's already noise that KD might finish his career in Paris (after winning a couple rings with the Spurs, obviously)

[BatManu20]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[RC_Drunkford]

My point is he’ll be there at #14. OKC at #15 have been mocked to take him in some mock drafts.

if there's one team that won't draft Danny Wolf, it's OKC.

By the way Spurs are still rumored to trade up from #14. Per David Aldridge:



At Duke, Maluach was named to the ACC All-Freshman Team, averaging 8.6 points, 6.6 rebounds and 1.3 blocks on 71.2 percent shooting from the field in 39 games. He ranked sixth in the country in offensive rebound percentage (16.5) and 2-point percentage (75.4). There’s a reason the Spurs, per league sources, have already had him in twice for pre-draft visits. It’s not likely San Antonio would take him with its No. 2 overall pick, but the Spurs certainly know that they’ll probably need to secure a second top-10 pick to have a real chance at taking him. Maybe top five.





https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/643...-centers-2025/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6435925/2025/06/20/nba-draft-confidential-bigs-centers-2025/)

[LeBowen]

His involvement with PSG was prior to the Olympics, but it used to be a small % from a hedge fund that bought a 12% of PSG.

It's changing into a direct (small) participation and more importantly his involvement in the future PSG Basket, a club/Franchise that could be the start of NBA Europe.

PSG is already multi sports, having women football, Judo and Handball and we're all been waiting/hoping for the PSG Basket

There's already noise that KD might finish his career in Paris (after winning a couple rings with the Spurs, obviously)

UAE just bought the Lakers, Qatari will sponsor Spurs luxury tax payments during Wemby's prime, tbh.

[SpursFan86]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/9759a450-de15-40bc-9765-5a50bd0d2a04
https://i.postimg.cc/3RZzfHCZ/IMG-0274.jpg

Fuck it. Let’s go boys.

[vy65]

Man I want KD more than ever now. He'd be invested in my 2 childhood teams...

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1936068530341855356

You know who's also a PSG fan?

1739786127244984406

[BatManu20]

1936085943791870194

[LeBowen]

Btw, it's only fitting that KD joined PSG just after they finally won the Champions League. :lol

[Ice009]

I would say that is better than the Spurs' offer, yes or no? Yes, they might not want Jalen Green, but would that 10th pick outweigh the 14th pick?

[RC_Drunkford]

1936085943791870194

so what else did they include, because that trade clearly doesn't work salary wise

[CorrectCrusader]

We're passed 100 pages, when does the trade happen?

[LeBowen]

Rockets aren't including even Sheppard? :lmao

As for the #14, a hypothetical question since there are many 3-D prospects in that range.
Would you rather have 3 years of KD or 10 years of Danny Green, development time included?

[RC_Drunkford]

1936085943791870194

that tweet is clear BS, cause there's no scenario where that works. Not even if the Rockets add Landale, Withmore, Aaron Holiday and Nate Williams to the package and also not if they do Jalen Green + Dillon Brooks.

[LeBowen]

that tweet is clear BS, cause there's no scenario where that works. Not even if the Rockets add Landale, Withmore, Aaron Holiday and Nate Williams to the package and also not if they do Jalen Green + Dillon Brooks.

Jalen Green being included doesn't make sense if the trade is going to happen before the draft.
Suns aren't taking back 50 million that become 70 million when extensions kick in.

[dn0774]

Btw, it's only fitting that KD joined PSG just after they finally won the Champions League. :lol

“The hardest investment”

[RC_Drunkford]

Jalen Green being included doesn't make sense if the trade is going to happen before the draft.
Suns aren't taking back 50 million that become 70 million when extensions kick in.

the trade doesn't even work. I know they don't want Green anyway, but if the Rockets don't add any of the mentioned players who are off the table, the trade can't happen period.

[spursistan]

Kinda feel like it is a last-minute haggling process with the Rockets before Ishbia caves in to Brian Wright who sprinkles a couple of SRPs on the offer to let him save face..

[LeBowen]

Kinda feel like it is a last-minute haggling process with the Rockets before Ishbia caves in to Brian Wright who sprinkles a couple of SRPs on the offer to let him save face..

Imagine if the offer is something like Keldon, Barnes, Wesley, Branham and a bunch of SRPs. :lmao

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

that tweet is clear BS, cause there's no scenario where that works. Not even if the Rockets add Landale, Withmore, Aaron Holiday and Nate Williams to the package and also not if they do Jalen Green + Dillon Brooks.


Jalen Green being included doesn't make sense if the trade is going to happen before the draft.
Suns aren't taking back 50 million that become 70 million when extensions kick in.

Guys guys, any trade is going to abide the rules and salaries for 2025/26, even if it is announced now or during the draft. It'll be officially completed after July 1st.

Houston can create a package around Green and Landale, probably adding another contract, as long as they're not a 1st apron team. Which is very achievable for them in multiple ways.

[sfernald]

if there's one team that won't draft Danny Wolf, it's OKC.

By the way Spurs are still rumored to trade up from #14. Per David Aldridge:








https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/643...-centers-2025/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6435925/2025/06/20/nba-draft-confidential-bigs-centers-2025/)

They will draft him at two.

[rascal]

Kinda feel like it is a last-minute haggling process with the Rockets before Ishbia caves in to Brian Wright who sprinkles a couple of SRPs on the offer to let him save face..

They aren't caving in for the Spurs trash.

[Ice009]

They will draft him at two.

Maluach? If the Spurs wanted him that badly, they'd trade the number 2 pick with Philadelphia or another team and gain more assets, then draft him with that lower pick. I can almost guarantee you they WILL NOT draft him at number 2.
Also, IMO, they will not choose him over Dylan Harper. That's crazy talk.

[LeBowen]

They aren't caving in for the Spurs trash.

We got Fox for cheaper than anyone expected and got rid of Collins in the process.
Brian Wright shall not be denied!

[BatManu20]

1936097849634165198

[Mr. Body]

Durant is going to be pissed the Spurs didn't include any draft picks trying to get him, he'll drop 100 as the Rockets sweep the Spurs in the first round en route to their third NBA championship.

[sfernald]

Maluach? If the Spurs wanted him that badly, they'd trade the number 2 pick with Philadelphia or another team and gain more assets, then draft him with that lower pick. I can almost guarantee you they WILL NOT draft him at number 2.
Also, IMO, they will not choose him over Dylan Harper. That's crazy talk.

Yeah I was joking of course. Jim Jones level mass suicide on here if they do.

[Ice009]

Yeah I was joking of course. Mass suicide on here if they do.

Well, you got me. I thought you were half serious. lol.

[spursistan]

Imagine if the offer is something like Keldon, Barnes, Wesley, Branham and a bunch of SRPs. :lmao
It's most definitely a lowball offer armed by the intel of KD wanting the Spurs.. My rough guess is Brian Wright telling him I'm only including one of 14/Vassell/Sochan and that's the current sticking point.

I'm genuinely not bothered losing Vassell. I'm in fact encouraging it. We desperately need to free up usage for Castle/Harper.

[spurraider21]

its going to come down to whether Miami is willing to include Ware or not. their FRP this year is all the way at 20, compared to 9 for TOR, 10 for HOU, and 14 for SAS

jacquez/jovic arent going to move the needle. if miami includes ware, i think they get KD, and on the court i think the fit there is quite good. are they contenders? in a weakened east with Tatum out, Milwaukee possibly dormant for a year, who knows. i think its worth it for them to take a shot rather than just being a purgatory team.

i like ware, but he's not some untreadeable asset

[RC_Drunkford]

Imagine if the offer is something like Keldon, Barnes, Wesley, Branham and a bunch of SRPs. :lmao

I think that is the offer. Seems like they are not including #14 at all.


Guys guys, any trade is going to abide the rules and salaries for 2025/26, even if it is announced now or during the draft. It'll be officially completed after July 1st.

Houston can create a package around Green and Landale, probably adding another contract, as long as they're not a 1st apron team. Which is very achievable for them in multiple ways.

I applied 25/26 salaries my friend. It doesn't work. You can try for yourself

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

[LeBowen]

It's most definitely a lowball offer armed by the intel of KD wanting the Spurs.. My rough guess is Brian Wright telling him I'm only including one of 14/Vassell/Sochan and that's the current sticking point.

You might be right. Call me crazy, but it might drag on until the lottery and the Spurs selection if they have a player they really want with that pick. Otherwise they just trigger the KD trade.


I'm genuinely not bothered losing Vassell. I'm in fact encouraging it. We desperately need to free up usage for Castle/Harper.

Yeah, he's had 5 years to prove his worth, it's time to let him go.
He might do better elsewhere, but he's not a good fit for the Spurs anymore and more importantly always seems to be dealing with some kind of injury issues.
He missed 72 games over the past 3 years.
If we keep him and he doesn't make a big leap, he'd be a negative asset next summer and we'd have to pay to get rid of him.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I applied 25/26 salaries my friend. It doesn't work. You can try for yourself

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

It doesn’t work on the trade machine because it treats Houston as a 1st apron team. It has all contracts in the calculation, e.g. FVV at 44mil.Trade machines just can’t be as flexible. Houston, on the other hand, can be flexible and not be above the 1st apron.

[RC_Drunkford]

It doesn’t work on the trade machine because it treats Houston as a 1st apron team. It has all contracts in the calculation, e.g. FVV at 44mil.Trade machines just can’t be as flexible. Houston, on the other hand, can be flexible and not be above the 1st apron.

yeah you're right. I didn't realize they still had those old cap holds factored in. Jalen Green, Landale and Aaron Holiday works in that case. Still a bad package though.

[Dverde]

https://postimg.cc/fSdKK5Hbhttps://i.postimg.cc/NFJzQzmR/phonto.jpg

[spurraider21]

Jalen Green being included doesn't make sense if the trade is going to happen before the draft.
Suns aren't taking back 50 million that become 70 million when extensions kick in.
trade can be agreed to before the draft, and then the rockets can just draft whoever the suns tell them, and that pick can be traded as outgoing salary post-draft

[djohn2oo8]

1936099686978326626

:lmao the Sons want multiple picks back
:lmao fuck that shit

[scott]

Oh you guys have just been replaced by ChatGPT. Please leave your keycards at the door as you are exited from the building:





The Celestial Catapult of Kevin “Gravity-Defying” Durant’s Cosmic Canapé
The Byzantine Ballet of Kevin “Slim Reaper” Durant’s Interstellar Teacup
The Kaleidoscopic Kazoo of Kevin Durant’s Olympian Jellybean Jamboree
The Neon Necktie of Kevin “Thunderstruck” Durant’s Lunar Lollapalooza
The Quantum Quesadilla of Kevin “30000‑Point” Durant’s Galactic Gondola
The Baroque Banana of Kevin Durant’s Time-Traveling Topiary
The Venetian Vortex of Kevin “NBA Scoring Titan” Durant’s Martian Macaron
The Hypersonic Hot-air- Balloon of Kevin Durant’s Chrono‑Coconut Cabaret
The Surreal Soufflé of Kevin “Olympic Gold” Durant’s Galaxy-Goose Gala
The Turbulent Tutu of Kevin Durant’s Interdimensional Ice‑Cream Igloo




A little outside of our typical format, but otherwise these are great.

[baseline bum]

1936099686978326626

:lmao the Sons want multiple picks back
:lmao fuck that shit

I'm not even sure if I'd trade #10 for Durant in H-Town's shoes. Not if Jakucionis is still on the board for example. I would definitely trade that pick over taking Carter Bryant or CMB though.

[LeBowen]

[Grange] But to cut through some of the smoke: multiple sources have confirmed to me that Raptors centre Jakob Poeltl would not be part of any deal — however unlikely a Raptors-Suns deal might be — centred around Durant.

At this point they won't even get a solid starter for KD. :lmao

[spurraider21]

At this point they won't even get a solid starter for KD. :lmao
it never made sense that the raptors offered 9 + Jakob + Barrett/Quickley because that would have already been accepted

[SpursFan86]

it never made sense that the raptors offered 9 + Jakob + Barrett/Quickley because that would have already been accepted

Pretty much. Also didn’t buy the Minnesota offer that was being tossed around either.

I’m not sure Ishbia is anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is :lol

[Dverde]

Phoenix dragging this out appears to be a self-own.

[BatManu20]

Hopefully we land KD just so we can shit on Amico tbh.

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[LeBowen]

it never made sense that the raptors offered 9 + Jakob + Barrett/Quickley because that would have already been accepted

Eh, Barrett isn't that valuable, he's on Devin level for me, I don't think they were offering Quickley.

[baseline bum]

it never made sense that the raptors offered 9 + Jakob + Barrett/Quickley because that would have already been accepted

You'd have to expect any Toronto offer would be contingent on KD agreeing to an extension.

[scott]

Talking with my inside sources (which do not actually exist), I'm gonna say I don't think this one is happening.

[spurraider21]

You'd have to expect any Toronto offer would be contingent on KD agreeing to an extension.
vecenie brought up how awful Toronto's books are and the ability to get off some contracts while getting a 1 year durant rental wouldnt even be the worst thing for them

they have real money committed to Barnes, Ingram, Quickley, Poeltl, Barrett...

[sfernald]

Five days until the draft. This is going all the way folks. Hopefully we can find some patience here.

[scott]

tbh, I think the finals dragging on to 7 days is really slowing some things down. We had the Bane deal, but there might be a few more in the queue that teams would just prefer to wait until after the finals to pull the cork on.

I expect the start of next week to be a little cray cray.

[Maddog]

Can we get this to a 100 pages before this is no longer a possibility (I'm not real certain there is even real interest by the Spurs)

I'm skeptical the Spurs are really interested- probably Spurs tossing out some low ball offers at best.

I posted this a week ago at page 53

I really think we can get this to 200 before nothing happens

[spurraider21]

Amick = Central
Amico = Centel

[cd98]

I'm good with the Spurs not trading for Durant. Sure, he'd be great to have on the team, but I agree it's not enough to win a title and if he isn't enough to win a title, why tie up resources that could land us better long term fits.

[Mr. Body]

I really felt there would be no trade three days ago or so.

[Bill_Brasky]

tbh, I think the finals dragging on to 7 days is really slowing some things down. We had the Bane deal, but there might be a few more in the queue that teams would just prefer to wait until after the finals to pull the cork on.

I expect the start of next week to be a little cray cray.

Sunday night thru the draft will be a whirlwind, gonna be refreshing ST left and right seeing if we do anything.

[Mr. Body]

Sunday night thru the draft will be a whirlwind, gonna be refreshing ST left and right seeing if we do anything.

If the trade hasn't happened yet, why would it happen then?

[spurraider21]

tbh, I think the finals dragging on to 7 days is really slowing some things down. We had the Bane deal, but there might be a few more in the queue that teams would just prefer to wait until after the finals to pull the cork on.

I expect the start of next week to be a little cray cray.
wherever he ends up, i think trade goes down around midday tuesday. suns are going to want to drag it as close to the draft as they can in a game of chicken, but other teams are going to want certainty going into the draft on wednesday

[spurraider21]

If the trade hasn't happened yet, why would it happen then?
suns playing the waiting game to get interested teams to up their bids

[Mr. Body]

suns playing the waiting game to get interested teams to up their bids

Only teams who may not have put bids in are Indiana and OKC.

[LeBowen]

Only teams who may not have put bids in are Indiana and OKC.

Suns are hoping someone gets desperate and improves their bid.

[exstatic]

suns playing the waiting game to get interested teams to up their bids

Also, if, as rumored, this is a done deal, the league may have asked them to wait in order to not step on the Finals.

[spurraider21]

Only teams who may not have put bids in are Indiana and OKC.
this is why i said "up their bids"

[spurraider21]

Also, if, as rumored, this is a done deal, the league may have asked them to wait in order to not step on the Finals.
where has a done deal been rumored?

nba didnt get mad when bane trade happened. sure Bane doesnt have same headlines as KD but it was a big trade given the haul

[Seventyniner]

Also, if, as rumored, this is a done deal, the league may have asked them to wait in order to not step on the Finals.

The Bane deal makes me doubt this line of reasoning. KD is higher profile but the Bane deal was still a blockbuster in terms of the price ORL paid.

[Spurs Homer]

is this skinny ass kunt a spur yet?

[Pauleta14]

You know who's also a PSG fan?

1739786127244984406

Of course I know but it's really just a coincidence for now

I haven't read any rumors about a link between PSG and the Spurs, although iircc last winter both clubs had a few merch when Spurs came to Paris

[Pauleta14]

Btw, it's only fitting that KD joined PSG just after they finally won the Champions League. :lol

He joined PSG a couple years ago now

[Bill_Brasky]

If the trade hasn't happened yet, why would it happen then?

Feels like the Suns are hoping someone blinks and offers something dumb

[spurraider21]

1) Durant prefers Spurs/Rockets/Heat (but mostly spurs)
2) Suns underwhelmed by offers from Spurs/Rockets/Heat
3) Suns having discussions/offers from Toronto/Minnesota with some extravagant stated offers
4) Turns out Toronto/Minnesota arent willing to pull the trigger on anything unless KD wants to play there
5) go back to step 1

we've been in this cycle for a while now, with nothing new really developing

only thing i have to go off of is Jake Fischer saying his educated guess is Miami, and he's reasonably plugged in. i also think the on-court fit there is good.

[Jordan Jackson]

I don’t get Durant’s fit in Houston. He’s almost 37. I don’t think he can carry an offense anymore. I know they have Sengún - but he’s not a “guy”. Houston would still need more shooting or teams are going to collapse on KD.

At this stage,’ Durant probably needs more ball movement and shot creators around him. He’s a smart and efficient player - so I do believe he has some years left. To me, he’s more of a 3rd option now.
No idea where he ends up. Suns are screwed.

[BatManu20]

KD doing all this just because he wants to be a Spur. What a time to be alive.

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[Seventyniner]

The stars are aligning. In more ways than one.

[BatManu20]

If not SA, I ultimately think he ends up in Miami too. Not even sure what that trade would look like exactly, but Riley gets shit done so I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls this off as well.

[djohn2oo8]

I don’t get Durant’s fit in Houston. He’s almost 37. I don’t think he can carry an offense anymore. I know they have Sengún - but he’s not a “guy”. Houston would still need more shooting or teams are going to collapse on KD.

At this stage,’ Durant probably needs more ball movement and shot creators around him. He’s a smart and efficient player - so I do believe he has some years left. To me, he’s more of a 3rd option now.
No idea where he ends up. Suns are screwed.
He still is an effective scorer.

[spurraider21]

Hopefully we land KD just so we can shit on Amico tbh.

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:lmao

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[djohn2oo8]

I'm not even sure if I'd trade #10 for Durant in H-Town's shoes. Not if Jakucionis is still on the board for example. I would definitely trade that pick over taking Carter Bryant or CMB though.
Yep. I think Phoenix gets desperate this weekend though.

[spurraider21]

KD doing all this just because he wants to be a Spur. What a time to be alive.

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https://media.tenor.com/XS-jrtk_r84AAAAM/good-good-evil.gif

[LeBowen]

https://i.imgur.com/2KBEH4f.png

[RC_Drunkford]

the only thing the Suns will get out of this, is that their fans think they tried everything they could to get whatever the return from the Spurs is. And it won't be a lot.

[Mr. Body]

This is my offer: Nothing.

[Leetonidas]

This is my offer: Nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/Vrn9L3b/9y1ow7.jpg

[baseline bum]

This is my offer: Nothing.

Not even the matching salary, which I would appreciate if you put up personally.

[BatManu20]

:lmao

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Fucking Amico :lol

[Dex]

Fucking Amico :lol

Getting publicly called out by another reporter (and your supposed "source") is next level dumbassery.

[RC_Drunkford]

the video title says it all :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T19OGnJsHYo

[Knoxxx]

Is this happening!?!

[Dex]

Is this happening!?!

I find it interesting that ESPN (and the media in general) keep talking about Miami and Houston (and Minnesota, who KD already said he doesn't want)....even places like LA and NY who aren't in position to get him.

But they have been VERY quiet about the Spurs.

:wakeup

[CGD]

My point is he’ll be there at #14. OKC at #15 have been mocked to take him in some mock drafts.

Yeah, we are just saying he’ll ALSO be there at the picks Minny (17) and the Heat (20) would presumably include in their offers for KD.

[dn0774]

If the Spurs spice up the offer at the 11th hour, which 1st rounder in our chest has the least value (assuming #14 is already included)?

[Dex]

If the Spurs spice up the offer at the 11th hour, which 1st rounder in our chest has the least value (assuming #14 is already included)?

I hold strong. Spurs don't NEED Durant, but Phoenix has to move him sooner or later or they are gonna stay stuck in the mud. If you wanna throw in some SRPs, fine...but any other FRPs are off the table for a guy who will only be around for 1-2 years.

[spurraider21]

If the Spurs spice up the offer at the 11th hour, which 1st rounder in our chest has the least value (assuming #14 is already included)?
ok ok we'll throw in a top 50 protected second rounder

[Dex]

Pretty sure nothing is going to happen until this gets up to 200 pages.

[exstatic]

If not SA, I ultimately think he ends up in Miami too. Not even sure what that trade would look like exactly, but Riley gets shit done so I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls this off as well.

Doubt that happens. He won’t want to pay Durant what he wants on the extension. He traded Jimmy Butler, and let Dwayne Wade walk, both older players,and over money in each case.

[Dverde]

Durant to the Spurs with Utah entering the chat to take on Vassell…Collins, Sexton, Clarkson to Phoenix? Not sure what they are including.

[BatManu20]

Doubt that happens. He won’t want to pay Durant what he wants on the extension. He traded Jimmy Butler, and let Dwayne Wade walk, both older players,and over money in each case.

Maybe. But Pat Riley is also 80 years old and doesn't have a lot of time left on this planet. Could see him getting desperate to field a competitive team one last time and finally agreeing to give up Ware in the deal.

[CGD]

https://i.imgur.com/2KBEH4f.png

I mean pretty much. They’re probably hoping Suns trade them KD out of spite after a petty negotiation with Houston.

[BatManu20]

Pretty sure nothing is going to happen until this gets up to 200 pages.

Will likely be announced on Tuesday after the Finals and right before the draft tbh, even if an agreement is made by Sunday or Monday.

[exstatic]

Maybe. But Pat Riley is also 80 years old and doesn't have a lot of time left on this planet. Could see him getting desperate to field a competitive team one last time and finally agreeing to give up Ware in the deal.

He had one last year until he pissed Jimmy Butler off. He can’t seem to get out of his own way in recent years. He also very much a company man, and if Arison says NO again, it will be no.

[Dverde]

Durant to the Spurs with Utah entering the chat to take on Vassell…Collins, Sexton, Clarkson to Phoenix? Not sure what they are including.
I got this directly from Eric Zhang whose twitter is suspended

[spurraider21]

Gambo and Windy kind of saying the same thing today... that Suns dont like the offers and are "waiting for the right trade"

the problem is there isn't much time to wait. a core component of any of these purported trades (other than minnesota), is a 2025 draft pick. presumably, if phoenix was going to trade for a 2025 pick, they'd probably want some say as far as who the player would be.

i dont think SAS/HOU are that desperate. both are up and coming teams with assets. good draft capital, ascending players, and tradeable contracts. they arent going to trip over themselves for a 37yo durant, even if they would like to have him

i think Miami could show some desperation as they are kind of a limbo team in a weak east that might want to take a push with Herro ascending and Bam in the thick of his prime. they arent in the position to sit back and watch their young talent flourish over the course of the next few years

if the suns dont get a deal done by the draft, these guys are all going to move on. the draft is on the 26th and free agency starts on the 30th (well, thats when the negotiation period begins). durant has a 54 mil cap number and you have to plan around that for free agency. then they're kind of just stuck with minnesota where it really seems clear KD has no interest in going.

the return they'd get for KD if they wait for the deadline would be even worse than what they're seeing now. or they just lose him in free agency and enjoy the 54 million dollar expiring salary after dud year where they're paying tax. and then in the 2026 offseason they will have something like 6 guys under contract making about 150mil among themselves, but with no assets to show for KD

[exstatic]

I mean pretty much. They’re probably hoping Suns trade them KD out of spite after a petty negotiation with Houston.

I think any team that hold your picks kind of pisses you off. ATL with us and HOU with the Suns are both good examples. NOP with the Bucks is another example.

[scott]

Getting publicly called out by another reporter (and your supposed "source") is next level dumbassery.

Not even another real reporter... by fucking ClutchPoints guy :lol

[scott]

If the Spurs spice up the offer at the 11th hour, which 1st rounder in our chest has the least value (assuming #14 is already included)?

I'd throw in a 2029 Swap. It would be fairly worthless coming from us but would still look like something.

[BatManu20]

"They're now wiling to go past the 2025 NBA Draft."

Well see if they're bluffing or not. Time will tell.

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[spurraider21]

If the Spurs spice up the offer at the 11th hour, which 1st rounder in our chest has the least value (assuming #14 is already included)?
as scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150) said, its the 2029 pick

2026 - our own pick with unprotected swap rights with ATL
2027 - ATL pick

i dont know that ATL will be that bad. daniels is ascending. jalen johnson is already a borderline all star when healthy. risacher had a good rookie year and will get better. and they have 2 first rounders this year.

2028 - our own pick with (top 1 protected) swap rights with Boston

who knows how good/bad boston will be. they'll probably still be good, but the swap rights give us a hedge in case one of these teams has a critical injury


2029 - our own pick, no swap rights

this is the one pick without any enhancements, so its the weakest one. and by this year, wemby will be playing in his age 24-25 season and already ramping up toward his prime. the spurs will likely be good, so this pick will likely be weak.


2030 - our own pick with swap rights, our choice of Mavs (unprotected) or Wolves (top 1 protected)

who knows how good these teams will be by then, but we basically have 3 shots of getting a very good pick


2031- our own pick with (unprotected) swap rights with sacto


looking at all that, 2029 stands out as the weakest one

[scott]

When can we trade 2032? On draft night or after? That would be the next thing to trade after 2029.

Great recap spurraider21

[spurraider21]

When can we trade 2032? On draft night or after? That would be the next thing to trade after 2029.

Great recap spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905)
seeing as how last year we traded for the wolves 2031 pick on draft night, i see no reason why we cant tarde for 2032 draft pick on draft night this year

[dn0774]

Yea thank you for that recap. Ishbia is likely looking for something that can feel like a win, even if its slightly hollow. The "Bane got 4 picks!?!" crowd probably reset his expectations a little bit due to lack of context. A swap right on our '29 pick could possibly count as that "win".

[Dex]

"They're now wiling to go past the 2025 NBA Draft."

Well see if they're bluffing or not. Time will tell.

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Phoenix: No low-ball offers, we know what we got.

Meanwhile, what they have is a 2000 Corvette with a bad tranny and bald tires.

[Ice009]

Doubt that happens. He won’t want to pay Durant what he wants on the extension. He traded Jimmy Butler, and let Dwayne Wade walk, both older players,and over money in each case.

Does anyone know why Jimmy Butler wanted to go to Phoenix? I remember before he was traded, Phoenix was the team he wanted to go to. Why was that? Did he want to play with Durant, or did he want to go for some other reason? Is he friends with Booker or something?

Conversely, why would Durant have Miami as one of the destinations he wants to go to if Jimmy Butler isn't there anymore? I wouldn't think they'd be a contender even in the weaker east even with Boston and Milwaukee having major injuries. I would think Durant would want to go to a team that can really contend, or come very close to it where he can maybe help put the team over the top.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Does anyone know why Jimmy Butler wanted to go to Phoenix? I remember before he was traded, Phoenix was the team he wanted to go to. Why was that? Did he want to play with Durant, or did he want to go for some other reason? Is he friends with Booker or something?
Conversely, why would Durant have Miami as one of the destinations he wants to go to if Jimmy Butler isn't there anymore?

I'm confident that there are other (likely more important) factors, but surely it's not a coincidence that the teams on his short list are teams in states that do not collect state income tax.

[sfernald]

I hold strong. Spurs don't NEED Durant, but Phoenix has to move him sooner or later or they are gonna stay stuck in the mud. If you wanna throw in some SRPs, fine...but any other FRPs are off the table for a guy who will only be around for 1-2 years.

Beware at this very moment all of the serious buyers are rummaging through their sofas searching for 2nd round picks! Brian Wright might have to go Nuclear!

*Pls read in Spurs Digest voice

[RC_Drunkford]

Looks like the Spurs actually want to keep Barnes and it‘s Keldon + Devin which is probably why the Spurs didn’t even offer #14

[spurraider21]

Looks like the Spurs actually want to keep Barnes and it‘s Keldon + Devin which is probably why the Spurs didn’t even offer #14
where are you getting that from?

[Dejounte]

Looks like the Spurs actually want to keep Barnes and it‘s Keldon + Devin which is probably why the Spurs didn’t even offer #14

Source? Evan? This is my preferred trade

[scott]

Looks like the Spurs actually want to keep Barnes and it‘s Keldon + Devin which is probably why the Spurs didn’t even offer #14

As they should, tbh

[Dejounte]

If the Spurs arent including 14th, then why are the suns working out Wolf? Maybe we dont win this sweepstakes after all

[spurraider21]

you could argue that its better to trade barnes because then next offseason keldon becomes a nice expiring contract. so you could trade the HB expiring now, and the KJ expiring later.

meanwhile if you trade KJ now, then Barnes expires/walks, you dont get value for him, and nobody is going to S&T for a middle aged HB

still, id like to see a source for what Drunkford is claiming

[RC_Drunkford]

Source? Evan? This is my preferred trade

Evan Townsend doesn't know what he's talking about


If the Spurs arent including 14th, then why are the suns working out Wolf? Maybe we dont win this sweepstakes after all

I mean it could be included. It was just being said that the Spurs didn't include it when they made their first offer, so it's still up in the air. They certainly open to moving it.


you could argue that its better to trade barnes because then next offseason keldon becomes a nice expiring contract. so you could trade the HB expiring now, and the KJ expiring later.

meanwhile if you trade KJ now, then Barnes expires/walks, you dont get value for him, and nobody is going to S&T for a middle aged HB

still, id like to see a source for what Drunkford is claiming

Trading Barnes cause he's expiring makes more sense to me too. But then extending Barnes would be a lot cheaper than keeping Keldon's 17.5 for another year and his extension would be more expensive (if they would want to keep him). Barnes is the ironman of the NBA. He plays every game and his extension would be a lot less from what he's making now. He shoots 43% from 3. Having 2 forwards shooting 43% from 3 would torture teams. Not to mention the whole leadership aspect.

[scott]

you could argue that its better to trade barnes because then next offseason keldon becomes a nice expiring contract. so you could trade the HB expiring now, and the KJ expiring later.

meanwhile if you trade KJ now, then Barnes expires/walks, you dont get value for him, and nobody is going to S&T for a middle aged HB

still, id like to see a source for what Drunkford is claiming

We extend HB on a nice 2/14 deal

[spurraider21]

Trading Barnes cause he's expiring makes more sense to me too. But then extending Barnes would be a lot cheaper than keeping Keldon's 17.5 for another year and his extension would be more expensive (if they would want to keep him). Barnes is the ironman of the NBA. He plays every game and his extension would be a lot less from what he's making now. He shoots 43% from 3. Having 2 forwards shooting 43% from 3 would torture teams. Not to mention the whole leadership aspect.
where are you seeing that the spurs want to trade keldon instead of barnes

or are you personally claiming inside info?

[RC_Drunkford]

where are you seeing that the spurs want to trade keldon instead of barnes

or are you personally claiming inside info?

I'm not seeing anything, I'm hearing things. I've been posting plenty of stuff that came out way later in the media, so I guess what I'm hearing is pretty accurate.

[spurraider21]

I'm not seeing anything, I'm hearing things. I've been posting plenty of stuff that came out way later in the media, so I guess what I'm hearing is pretty accurate.
where are you hearing these things?

what are these predictions you've gotten right before the media caught wind?

[elec7ro]

He's listening to "KDot the Kemist" and doesn't realize its just a random dude that is talking out of his ass

[CGD]

"They're now wiling to go past the 2025 NBA Draft."

Well see if they're bluffing or not. Time will tell.

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Dang so it really just is Green + 10 for them? That’s some stingy shit lol.

[Uriel]

My subjective ranking of the likelihood of each of the possibilities, based on the latest info:
1. Miami
2. Minnesota
3. Houston
4. San Antonio
5. Toronto
6. No deal

I’m most uncertain about 2 and 3 and can easily see them being flipped.

[Dex]

My subjective ranking of the likelihood of each of the possibilities, based on the latest info:
1. Miami
2. Minnesota
3. Houston
4. San Antonio
5. Toronto
6. No deal

I’m most uncertain about 2 and 3 and can easily see them being flipped.

Minny is just trying to unload Gobert and his ridiculous contract...but I could easy see Phoenix taking the bait because "WE GET A DEFENSIVE BIG"

[dn0774]

Jalen Green and Devin Vassell are just not needle movers for the Suns due to A) their contracts and B) Devin Booker existing. I wonder if the Rockets and Spurs are seeking a 3rd partner to route those guys to or if they just told the Suns "that's the offer, find a 3rd team if you want to" lol. Both teams seem so lukewarm to actually pursuing KD hard and its hilarious. Suns really might just have to go into training camp with KD and it will be so awkward.

[objective]

Barnes being washed on defense and especially the boards was a key part of their mediocre record last year even with Wemby.

He shot the 3, but he's in the 05-07 Finley era now. The 08-10 era comes next and the Spurs don't need any part of that, especially for any money amount that's notable

[Degoat]

I understand that the suns might not like the idea of having say Vassell since they have Booker but Booker and Bridges co-existed quite well

[Knoxxx]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/raptors-refusing-key-player-kevin-013020916.html

[cutewizard]

If you talk career ok but if you talk talent, Tracy McGrady is the most talented that ever played bb


How about Len Bias?

Hmmmmmmmm

[BatManu20]

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[mystargtr34]

lol Phoenix.

[couchman]

Caught this nugget from the yahoo article, “ Poeltl is an elite rim protector.”
lol

[Extra Stout]

What a shitshow of a franchise Phoenix is. How embarrassing. At this point, they probably just hold onto Durant in a huff in a futile attempt to save face.

[benefactor]

What a shitshow of a franchise Phoenix is. How embarrassing. At this point, they probably just hold onto Durant in a huff in a futile attempt to save face.
Holding on to Durant would be even more embarrassing. Take one of the deals and cut your losses.

[cutewizard]

If Durant arrives, we shall be in the hunt for the Throne!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhohR3NBl4&list=RD9KhohR3NBl4&start_radio =1

[Biggems]

Of course Wemby is untouchable. With that, I say Fox, Castle, Sochan, and #2 are also untouchable.

Vassell, KJ, Branham, Wesley, and #14. Maybe we throw in a future 1st rounder or 2-3 future 2nd rounders. If PHX says no, than they can rot in Hell.

[mystargtr34]

The Spurs offer might be Vassell + Keldon/Barnes + Branham + multiple SRP’s :lol

The spurs have some decent SRPs to offer over the next 5 drafts. This doesn’t include their own and the swaps. Maybe they’re offering 4 of these instead of #14

2025 #38
2026 Utah SRP (protected 56-60) which is likely to be in the 30-35 range.
2026 NOP or Portland unprotected.
2028 NOP SRP unprotected
2028 Minny SRP unprotected
2029 LAC SRP unprotected
2029 NOP SRP unprotected

[Ice009]

What's the event that Victor, Dylan and KD are supposed to be at today? I remember reading it in one of the threads the other day.

[RC_Drunkford]

What's the event that Victor, Dylan and KD are supposed to be at today? I remember reading it in one of the threads the other day.

Fanatics fan fest

[Pauleta14]

How about Len Bias?

Hmmmmmmmm

Loved the docu but it's all fantasies bc he didn't play in the league

TMac is theoretically the most talented/gifted human being to ever play in the league imho

Skills wise you can argue with different players but the combination with his size and length were absurd and unmatched

Him and Vince Carter are the best examples of how much luck is a massive factor in a career, from the team that drafts you to injuries or quality of teammates & coaches etc

[exstatic]

Holding on to Durant would be even more embarrassing. Take one of the deals and cut your losses.

Yup. Take the L, learn your lesson, and move on. Best not to shop HOF players at the deadline without their consent. It kinda leads to hard feelings.

[Raven]

thankfully, this isn't happening

[cutewizard]

Why is it taking so long??

announce it now ....................huhu

[Dex]

What a shitshow of a franchise Phoenix is. How embarrassing. At this point, they probably just hold onto Durant in a huff in a futile attempt to save face.

I mean...the offseason hasn't even started yet. I'm sure they would like some picks from THIS draft (and there seem to be a few teams willing to deal them), but this could easily draw out until the trade deadline and they will hope some team becomes desperate.

That's going to make for one hell of an awkward locker room though. And if last season was any indication, this group just doesn't work.

[BatManu20]

Why is it taking so long??

announce it now ....................huhu

If* they trade him, it won't be announced until after the Finals. Likely Monday or Tuesday before the Draft.

[Chillen]

If* they trade him, it won't be announced until after the Finals. Likely Monday or Tuesday before the Draft.

It's likely that Durant does not want the trade announced until after the Finals out of respect for both teams currently playing. The Orlando/Memphis trade was one of those rare trades that were announced with the Finals on. So yes if they trade him before the draft Monday or Tuesday of next week sounds about right.

[BatManu20]

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[lefty]

thankfully, this isn't happening

[dn0774]

I'm curious what the Vassell/Keldon/14 (or 2 of the 3 or with Sochan involved) package could fetch if KD ends up elsewhere? If Naz Reid wanted to go to SA does he just have to sign for MLE or could he do a sign and trade for the bigger $$ with the Wolves to be routed to the Spurs? Which other targets could be attainable for that package?

[benefactor]

Amick has shit all over Shams throughout this process. Good chance Shams gets to the other side of this with a lot of egg on his face as an insider. We need Woj back.

[vy65]

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lol

[Dverde]

Amick has shit all over Shams throughout this process. Good chance Shams gets to the other side of this with a lot of egg on his face as an insider. We need Woj back.

Woj was better at not reporting the spin. You can’t be “the guy” and do this. Let the beat reporters leak this stuff.

[heyheymymy]

The one year left on KDs deal is the lynchpin to SA possibly getting him. It's the leverage KD is wielding when he says yeah but I won't resign in, say, MIN if you trade me there. For now it's a deterrence but my fear is that as time goes on some stupid team (lol MIN) will make a bad decision like they do and say fuck it one year rental for KD and take it anyway. Maybe they see getting off Gobert as value and if they can convert that into even a 1 year rental of KD when they are trying to strike gold with Ant in a closing window they'll see it as favorable?

[baseline bum]

The one year left on KDs deal is the lynchpin to SA possibly getting him. It's the leverage KD is wielding when he says yeah but I won't resign in, say, MIN if you trade me there. For now it's a deterrence but my fear is that as time goes on some stupid team (lol MIN) will make a bad decision like they do and say fuck it one year rental for KD and take it anyway. Maybe they see getting off Gobert as value and if they can convert that into even a 1 year rental of KD when they are trying to strike gold with Ant in a closing window they'll see it as favorable?

I do think it's reasonable for Minnesota to think he will re-sign if they trade for him, as who else is going to have $60 million to offer him? Jimmy Butler all over again and all.

[heyheymymy]

I do think it's reasonable for Minnesota to think he will re-sign if they trade for him, as who else is going to have $60 million to offer him? Jimmy Butler all over again and all.

great point. even beyond the fuck it mentality, teams may also assume hey lets get him in see how the season goes and then hope he either changes his mind or sees his market dry up and he's forced to stay and re-sign ultimately anyway

[CGD]

The one year left on KDs deal is the lynchpin to SA possibly getting him. It's the leverage KD is wielding when he says yeah but I won't resign in, say, MIN if you trade me there. For now it's a deterrence but my fear is that as time goes on some stupid team (lol MIN) will make a bad decision like they do and say fuck it one year rental for KD and take it anyway. Maybe they see getting off Gobert as value and if they can convert that into even a 1 year rental of KD when they are trying to strike gold with Ant in a closing window they'll see it as favorable?

There is some risk to KD too, if he’s deadset on getting a max extension anyway. If the Suns pivot to having him stay through the end of his contract bc the offers are that bad, he’d enter UFA next summer where I think he’d have a harder time getting his desired number (as opposed to extending off the last figure of his current deal).

[heyheymymy]

There is some risk to KD too, if he’s deadset on getting a max extension anyway. If the Suns pivot to having him stay through the end of his contract bc the offers are that bad, he’d enter UFA next summer where I think he’d have a harder time getting his desired number (as opposed to extending off the last figure of his current deal).

KD's self preservation may be SA's advantage

[heyheymymy]

If KD had, say, 3 years left on his contract would you say the Spurs might have much less of a chance to get him? It's the 1 year left and needing to see eye to eye on what the next contract might look like that is limiting suitors and possibly playing into the Spurs hand?

[Ariel]

Why is it taking so long??

announce it now ....................huhu
Because every offer that came out is probably BS fed to reporters by Phonix's FO hoping someone is stupid enough to bite. They leaked Houston's offer was centered around Jabari Smith and later came out he was off the table, same with Toronto and Poeltl... Ishbia thinks other team's front offices are as stupid as his, and he's finding out they're not. It's borderline sad to watch how their desperation keeps rising and leaves them exposed.

[LeBowen]

Because every offer that came out is probably BS fed to reporters by Phonix's FO hoping someone is stupid enough to bite. They leaked Houston's offer was centered around Jabari Smith and later came out he was off the table, same with Toronto and Poeltl... Ishbia thinks other team's front offices are as stupid as his, and he's finding out they're not. It's borderline sad to watch how their desperation keeps rising and leaves them exposed.

Ishbia doesn't realize that the worse he acts in this situation, the worse he'll have it in the future when it comes to relationships with other GMs and more importantly agents.
Nephew completely bent us over and PATFO had every right to just keep him in the doghouse for a year, but they saved face and kept their reputation which is doing a lot of work now.

[exstatic]

Amick has shit all over Shams throughout this process. Good chance Shams gets to the other side of this with a lot of egg on his face as an insider. We need Woj back.

He messed up, and painted himself into a corner with only two scenarios: either he’s not an insider like he claims and didn’t know what was happening, or he was ball washing Ishbia. Neither is good for his reputation.

[RC_Drunkford]

1936445487365705888

Suns propaganda is next level :lol

this guy breaks it down pretty well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp8ELcwhojU

[LeBowen]

this guy breaks it down pretty well

We don't need any breakdowns because we broke it down so many times we're trying to find the crumbs that are left on the floor.
I don't think there's a place on the internet than went more in depth about this than spurstalk. :lol

[99 Problems]

:pop: Let OKC have their meltdown time first, patience true believers…..

[SpursFan86]

The U.S. entered a war before a KD trade went down :pctoss

[Mr. Body]

The U.S. entered a war before a KD trade went down :pctoss

Who is stupider, Donald Trump or the Phoenix Suns?

[benefactor]

Who is stupider, Donald Trump or the Phoenix Suns?
Donald Trump easily. He's one of the dumbest humans to ever exit a birth canal

[koriwhat]

Donald Trump easily. He's one of the dumbest humans to ever exit a birth canal

You liked him before 2015... who are you trying to kid rn? :lmao

[CGD]

Who is stupider, Donald Trump or the Phoenix Suns?

So much for “No forever wars.” What a fucking disgrace. Fuck you assholes that voted for this bullshit. Our son’s lives will NOT pay for this political bullshit!

[Chillen]

So much for “No forever wars.” What a fucking disgrace. Fuck you assholes that voted for this bullshit. Our son’s lives will NOT pay for this political bullshit!

You don't think the Iranian's would not launch a nuke on Israel? They definitely would. The fallout would spread. They had to do it.

[CGD]

You don't think the Iranian's would not launch a nuke on Israel? They definitely would. The fallout would spread. They had to do it.

#NoForeverWars
#NotMySons

[Chillen]

#NoForeverWars
#NotMySons

I am not for war either. I get ya. The Iranian's are f**king insane. They would have launched a nuke on Israel and we all would have to deal with the fallout from a nuke.

[Spurs Homer]

You don't think the Iranian's would not launch a nuke on Israel? They definitely would. The fallout would spread. They had to do it.


which of the “iran will have a nuke in a few weeks” lies from satan-yahoo
did you believe?

when he said it in 1996?
2001?
2002?
2012?
2015?
2016?
2024?
last week?


which of those lies convinced you that it was an “imminent threat to the usa?”

fucking idiot/sucker

[Chillen]

One of my favorite anti war songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odz3c68JE1c

[Mr. Body]

You don't think the Iranian's would not launch a nuke on Israel? They definitely would. The fallout would spread. They had to do it.

No of course Iran wouldn't launch a nuke at Israel.

But you do know who has nuclear technology and pretends they don't? Israel. Do you know who they stole it from? Us.

What's really cool about the situation is that Iran had come to a multi-national deal to keep their country open to free inspections to ensure they weren't developing nuclear technology. You know who scrapped this deal as soon as he came into power? Trump.

You know, attacking Iran for absolutely no reason is just going to make sure every country gets nuclear technology as fast as they can, because the ones with nukes are never attacked.

[CGD]

I am not for war either. I get ya. The Iranian's are f**king insane. They would have launched a nuke on Israel and we all would have to deal with the fallout from a nuke.

Sorry man, I’m incredibly triggered by this and getting major Iraq 2003 vibes. I don’t share your analysis on Iran’s capabilities, nor do I think the USG has sufficiently made the case as to why we are obliged to take orders from Netanyahu.

I despise Trump on most things, but one of the few places I agreed with him was on disengaging us from wars we don’t need to be involved in. And here we are, on the precipice of another. This is real world stuff, and I would just ask people to think for themselves before accepting this White House’s talking points as gospel.

I’ll get back to talking basketball now…

[Mikesatx]

Politics in this thread will easily take it to 200. Please create a new thread if you really want to debate this.

[Dex]

Politics in this thread will easily take it to 200. Please create a new thread if you really want to debate this.

If only we had an entirely separate forum here on this fine website to discuss politics :reading

[sfernald]

Politics in this thread will easily take it to 200. Please create a new thread if you really want to debate this.

Yes politics are disreaikijgnthism critical trans crkion

[dn0774]

Iran needs to follow the guide. (https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Feja2ow6l8fpd1. jpeg)

[RC_Drunkford]

I am not for war either. I get ya. The Iranian's are f**king insane. They would have launched a nuke on Israel and we all would have to deal with the fallout from a nuke.

of course America attacks a country yet again and somehow that country is now "insane". Where are those weapons of mass destruction that were supposedly in Iraq again? Did y'all find them yet?

[scott]

of course America attacks a country yet again and somehow that country is now "insane". Where are those weapons of mass destruction that were supposedly in Iraq again? Did y'all find them yet?

Can't believe the writers literally rolled out the same script from Iraq. smh

[CorrectCrusader]

One joke about a war starting before the KD trade and this thread turns into facebook boomer slop

[scott]

Side note... nothing kills a KD boner more than seeing lineup proposals with KD starting next to fucking Sochan :lol

[scott]

One joke about a war starting before the KD trade and this thread turns into facebook boomer slop

Does it hurt your widdle feelings? Ironically, your complaining is about the most boomer response imaginable. Just scroll past, snowflake.

[dn0774]

Side note... nothing kills a KD boner more than seeing lineup proposals with KD starting next to fucking Sochan :lol

But Sochan defends…and stuff!

[scott]

But Sochan defends…and stuff!

The absolute wide open looks that Sochan would get in a lineup with Fox, Castle (or Harper), KD and Wemby would be insane. He'd have plenty of time to hesitate for a full 5 seconds before throwing up a brick.

[timtonymanu]

But Sochan defends…and stuff!

The other excuse is "but he's only 22." :cry

[Dex]

The other excuse is "but he's only 22." :cry

But he posted a short video of him hitting open shots in an empty gym.

[sfernald]

The absolute wide open looks that Sochan would get in a lineup with Fox, Castle (or Harper), KD and Wemby would be insane. He'd have plenty of time to hesitate for a full 5 seconds before throwing up a brick.

‘Wait, I’ve heard he’s putting them up like Ray Allen this summer..

[scott]

‘Wait, I’ve heard he’s putting them up like Ray Allen this summer..

Sochan will be so wide open he'll have time to watch his summer workout videos and then shoot it

[heyheymymy]

Been watching some Paris 2024 tape and KD really moves well and shot pure. The fit and mentorship potential are very desirable. He drops right in with Wemby and 2of3 Fox/Harper/Castle plus Champ or something. It's a good pursuit hope it works out. Hell froze over with CP3 and now maybe KD in a Spurs jersey? Man, maybe it really is the end of the world as we know it.

[sfernald]

Been watching some Paris 2024 tape and KD really moves well and shot pure. The fit and mentorship potential are very desirable. He drops right in with Wemby and 2of3 Fox/Harper/Castle plus Champ or something. It's a good pursuit hope it works out. Hell froze over with CP3 and now maybe KD in a Spurs jersey? Man, maybe it really is the end of the world as we know it.

what could possibly make you think that lol.

i know that was happening when everyone on spurs talk started getting along.

[Chinook]

Side note... nothing kills a KD boner more than seeing lineup proposals with KD starting next to fucking Sochan :lol

I actually think he'd be very good in the lineup. The issue is that the Spurs don't have a great option for two-guard. If Castle or Harper proves to be a good shooter, they make sense. Otherwise, a pure three-and-D player would be golden. Say the Spurs sign NAW

Fox, Alexander-Walker, Sochan, Durant, Wembanyama

Sochan's basically the center in that lineup, and his job would basically be to be Fox's PnR partner, defend the best front-court player and get rebounds. If he's standing on the perimeter waiting for C&S chances, he's not playing his role properly. I think Jeremy has to learn to shoot well to truly winning player, but his size gives him a couple of avenues to survive as the worst shooter on the floor in a way that Harper and Castle don't have. I've love for one of the Steph or Dylan to take that starting SG role, as learning to be a good role-player is really important to their long-term development. But they're going to have to have those percentages up and show some good defense to get that role.

[Uriel]

It’s not impossible that Ishbia has a little under the table agreement with Shams, you know.

[RC_Drunkford]

It’s not impossible that Ishbia has a little under the table agreement with Shams, you know.

they are friends

[tbdog]

I actually think he'd be very good in the lineup. The issue is that the Spurs don't have a great option for two-guard. If Castle or Harper proves to be a good shooter, they make sense. Otherwise, a pure three-and-D player would be golden. Say the Spurs sign NAW

Fox, Alexander-Walker, Sochan, Durant, Wembanyama

Sochan's basically the center in that lineup, and his job would basically be to be Fox's PnR partner, defend the best front-court player and get rebounds. If he's standing on the perimeter waiting for C&S chances, he's not playing his role properly. I think Jeremy has to learn to shoot well to truly winning player, but his size gives him a couple of avenues to survive as the worst shooter on the floor in a way that Harper and Castle don't have. I've love for one of the Steph or Dylan to take that starting SG role, as learning to be a good role-player is really important to their long-term development. But they're going to have to have those percentages up and show some good defense to get that role.

Also, Sochan getting over screens and taking on the best wing defender so Durant can provide some weakside help. It makes sense.

[Pauleta14]

Can't believe the writers literally rolled out the same script from Iraq. smh

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/1936701183608942856

[AFBlue]

Guys, we got past 100 before it happened. There's no reason to arbitrarily inflate with nonsensical posts. We did it. Mission Accomplished.

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/anniefortruth/status/1936642233534730643?s=46

https://x.com/youranoncentral/status/1936630549386592346?s=46

[baseline bum]

Can't believe the writers literally rolled out the same script from Iraq. smh

But Pauleta14 told me Trump was the peace candidate.

[baseline bum]

One joke about a war starting before the KD trade and this thread turns into facebook boomer slop

Remember when you guys acted like you were against Bush for his retarded pre-emptive war based on bullshit intel and now your Dear Leader does the exact same shit and it's crickets?

[baseline bum]

I am not for war either. I get ya. The Iranian's are f**king insane. They would have launched a nuke on Israel and we all would have to deal with the fallout from a nuke.

Why in the hell would they launch a nuke at Israel? Has Kim Jong Un launched his shit? They should be trying to get nukes since that's the only thing that will keep the US from attempting regime change they did to Saddam who they knew didn't have them and Gaddafi who stopped pursuing them.

[baseline bum]

of course America attacks a country yet again and somehow that country is now "insane". Where are those weapons of mass destruction that were supposedly in Iraq again? Did y'all find them yet?

Trump didn't even draw pictures of mobile weapons labs this time.

[CGD]

Remember when you guys acted like you were against Bush for his retarded pre-emptive war based on bullshit intel and now your Dear Leader does the exact same shit and it's crickets?

In fairness he was probably in diapers in 2003.

We’re about to be hit with a bunch of White House’s spin. Stay vigilant.

#NoForeverWars

[Chillen]

Get this sh*t done Spurs. If Suns want #14 let them have it.