Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread

[ducks]

espn ticker says stein is saying source
knicks will get macgrady and separate deal to bulls thomas

[ElNono]

One other thing to consider is if Pop already thinks this team can't compete with Tony being as hobbled as he is, and this season is basically already done. Kinda like last season when Manu went down. In that case it makes sense to hold on to the expiring contracts, doesn't it?

[Trimble87]

I posted this elsewhere. but ill put it here as well. Just a thought, if the spurs end up not making a move.

No trade happening DOES NOT equal "r.c/pop did not try." Just like the RJ deal not working out does not make pop/r.c idiots. The fact that no other team wanted our bench players or Jefferson does not mean that the spurs weren't on the phone the last week trying to make the team better.

Assuming Pop did not try or did not want a trade because one did not hapen is silly.

[CGD]

The Bucks taking Salmons for expirings really hurts the Spurs' chances of landing Ty Thomas. Now the Spurs will have to offer a first round pick to have a chance.

I think we were always going to have to offer our 1st. We can debate the value of Salmons all day, but I highly doubt ownership would have approved taking on more salary next year.

[Sean Cagney]

Ehhhh this team is f'ed

Understatement, we are done.

[ElNono]

I posted this elsewhere. but ill put it here as well. Just a thought, if the spurs end up not making a move.

No trade happening DOES NOT equal "r.c/pop did not try." Just like the RJ deal not working out does not make pop/r.c idiots. The fact that no other team wanted our bench players or Jefferson does not mean that the spurs weren't on the phone the last week trying to make the team better.

Assuming Pop did not try or did not want a trade because one did not hapen is silly.

We can only speculate because they're obviously pretty tight lipped. But the reality is that trades get done with other teams, and those teams are not as tight lipped. That's why you see articles like 'Spurs shopping RJ'.

One other thing is clear: The past offseason the FO thought we needed to upgrade, and they went out there determined to get shit done and got RJ and Dice.
So, you know, you see the people being traded and what they're getting traded for, and you have to try to make sense of why the Spurs were not in play.

[Mr. Body]

The offseason was our big trading season. We already got our stuff done. It just didn't work out.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's a great thing when they get a guy like Hill, it's a horrible thing when they sign a guy like Keith Bogans and play him significant minutes..

[duncan228]

You know what, let's get hammered on a wednsday night. Bartender 228 I'm buying everyone a round, take it out of my vbookie cash.

:drunk :toast

[jesterbobman]

Just thinking of trades, Would anybody do any of these(And do you think other teams would)?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yklld3m
Jefferson Out
Maggette, Gadzuric in(6.6 EC Next year)

Mil Gets Jefferson, gives up Ridnour, Gadzuric(Maintains 2011 Capspace with RJ, Redd coming off books)
GS Maggette Out
Ridnour in(Expiring)

RJ To Indiana for Dunleavy and Rush
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf4pbol

RJ to Minnesota for Blount, Sessions, Gomes
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yke48sq

RJ for J Rich

Basically , Just looking at options that are roughly cap neutral, don't affect teams plans for free agency(I think Milwaukee and Indy are aiming at 2011, Minny I'm not sure), the Phoenix deal is roughly cap neutral.

[DesignatedT]

The Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement in principle with the Houston Rockets on a trade that will swap Kevin Martin(notes) for Tracy McGrady(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Along with Martin, the Kings will send Sergio Rodriguez, Hilton Armstrong(notes) and Kenny Thomas(notes) to the Rockets. Joey Dorsey(notes) and Carl Landry(notes) will go to the Kings.


pretty good move for houston.. wonder if kings will reroute tmac to new york

[timtonymanu]

wow Rockets lose Landry. Rocket fans must be pissed.

[Pentagruel]

Will the Kings waive T-mac?

[DesignatedT]

ric bucher:

# If Sac and Hou can pull Knicks into 3-team deal, Sergio Rodriguez + TMac would go to NY, a source says. Told Sac-Hou two-way deal not done. about 1 hours ago from web

[slick'81]

Will the Kings waive T-mac?


probably try to deal him for another piece

[Pentagruel]

I wouldn't mind T-mac if he was waived hehe...

Not happening I know but still...

[Pentagruel]

In regards to the Houston trade, I can't say I really like it from their perspective. I've become accustomed to some shrewd maneuverings from Houston the past few years but I don't really like Kevin Martin over much. Furthermore, Landry is a good player they gave up for him...

I wouldn't be surprised if Houston actually got worse after this trade.

[FeZZy]

ugh im pretty sure this means that ny is gonna deal with chicago for TT

[Chieflion]

You know how this trade deadline is like the menstruation period for NBA teams when teams unload their old blood for new blood to come in and take its place. The Spurs are too old for all of these. They have already reached menopause.

[Mr. Body]

The Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement in principle with the Houston Rockets on a trade that will swap Kevin Martin(notes) for Tracy McGrady(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Along with Martin, the Kings will send Sergio Rodriguez, Hilton Armstrong(notes) and Kenny Thomas(notes) to the Rockets. Joey Dorsey(notes) and Carl Landry(notes) will go to the Kings.


pretty good move for houston.. wonder if kings will reroute tmac to new york

Awesome for the Rockets. Not sure about losing Carl Landry, though, but our donation of Luis Scola (in perpetuity) to them makes this possible. Maybe we can give them DeJuan Blair as well?

[Rogue]

You know how this trade deadline is like the menstruation period for NBA teams when teams unload their old blood for new blood to come in and take its place. The Spurs are too old for all of these. They have already reached menopause.
CROFL :lmao :lmao :lmao

I would be glad to help get you free from that process for a period as long as almost a year if your ethnicity were a different one than what it really is. You're quite a smart/creative woman TBH and such level of creativity is especially precious for females who in general are rarely given such instincts.

[objective]

what teams are left that haven't traded?

I guess . . .

The Spurs can dump expirings + a 1st for Troy Murphy. :depressed

[Chieflion]

CROFL :lmao :lmao :lmao

I would be glad to help get you free from that process for a period as long as almost a year if your ethnicity were a different one than what it really is. You're quite a smart/creative woman TBH and such level of creativity is especially precious for females who in general are rarely given such instincts.
Damn, I am not a female. :bang:bang:bang

[Pentagruel]

what teams are left that haven't traded?

I guess . . .

The Spurs can dump expirings + a 1st for Troy Murphy. :depressed


Why would the Spurs do this? We shouldn't make a trade just to make a trade.

The Spurs are in the unfortunate position that they are competitive but not close to true contenders. I think it is too great a risk for them to take on a long big money contract at this point because it likely won't put us over the top. At the same time they obviously don't want to straight salary dump players because there is still some hope that arrangements can be made to create a championship team.

The only thing they can do at this point is try and trade less important expirers (non-Manu expirers) for a significant player. But who is going to agree to that trade? No one most likely, and that is why no trade is being made. It has nothing to do with the Front Office not trying or not caring, its simply that they are not in a position to make any useful trades for the team.

Out of the trades that have been made so far..

The Cavs are obviously super title contenders at this point and its understandable they might be willing to take a risk on a longer contract because it may realistically win them a title. Add to the fact they want to appease Lebron and the trade makes good sense.

The Mavs took on Butler, Haywood and Stevenson at relatively low risk since Haywood and Stevenson are expirers themselves and Butler is on a 2-year contract. I can guarantee you it won't put them in title contention however.

Houston traded away Carl Landry, their best player for Kevin Martin and scrubs while giving up a huge asset in Tracey McGrady's expiring contract. I sincerely hope for the Rockets something else is set to go down because if not they got robbed. They will probably get worse this year from that trade and they are now locked into Martin's 4-year 40million deal (an injury prone SG that can score but not much else).

The rest of the trades made thus far are rather inconsequential. In my opinion only the Cavs trade was really worth it because they are in a position to win the title and adding Jamison both fits their system and puts them over the top in terms of simple talent.

The point is really, trades are a difficult and dangerous game. We could just as easily harm ourselves with a trade as help, and many of the proposed trades here seem to be without any regard to finance and future. Its easy to say make this trade or that, but its harder to fix the mess two years down the road.

[objective]

Why would the Spurs do this? We shouldn't make a trade just to make a trade.

They shouldn't, it was a joke.

But considering how much Pop loves Matt Bonner it wouldn't surprise me to see them trade for an upper-middle class man's Bonner.

[mountainballer]

Mason to the Bulls in a Thomas deal would make sense if the Bulls dump Salmons for two bigs.

not sure if the Bulls plan to play them at all. getting rid of Salmons was clearly a financial move. pretty sure Elson will be waived.
but yes, if the Bulls want to still be competitive for the PO, they will need a shooter even more. Rose -Hinrich-Devin Brown. not exactly what they call a deep back court. but they also don't have a back up for Deng. of course this would be a point against Mason. what about Finley? didn't play in Indy. (or was he injured?)

[objective]

The Bulls weren't desperate to dump Tyrus, they can renounce him this summer to get more cap room if the want. He was just supposed to be the bait to get someone to take Salmons off their hands.

Now that the Bucks did them a favor, there's no good reason to dump him unless they want picks.

[HarlemHeat37]

All the reports say that the Bulls are almost guaranteed to move Thomas though..it's not just about trying to attach him to another deal..they just don't want to deal with him anymore..

Furthermore, they just got Hakim Warrick in the deal for Salmons..they apparently plan on playing Warrick..so there's not much room for Thomas anyways..

It'll come down to Spurs or Knicks IMO..

[timvp]

From what we are hearing, the Spurs as of right now have no deal close to being done. They have supposedly had some "close calls" but there is a chance now that nothing happens. However, they have all hands on deck and will supposedly be aggressive.






This is going to be a long day. One hour of sleep :wakeup:wakeup

[jiggy_55]

From what we are hearing, the Spurs as of right now have no deal close to being done. They have supposedly had some "close calls" but there is a chance now that nothing happens. However, they have all hands on deck and will supposedly be aggressive.






This is going to be a long day. One hour of sleep :wakeup:wakeup


Thought so :(. Bring Ty Thomas Pop! Still got 9 hours to go!

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm also of the opinion that nothing will happen other than maybe dumping Mason..hopefully I'm wrong..

Mason + a 1st for Thomas makes a lot of sense though..

[jiggy_55]

I'm also of the opinion that nothing will happen other than maybe dumping Mason..hopefully I'm wrong..

Yup. And it seems the best we'll get is some stupid 2nd round pick for Mason, not someone we could use now.

[objective]

All the reports say that the Bulls are almost guaranteed to move Thomas though..it's not just about trying to attach him to another deal..they just don't want to deal with him anymore..

Furthermore, they just got Hakim Warrick in the deal for Salmons..they apparently plan on playing Warrick..so there's not much room for Thomas anyways..

It'll come down to Spurs or Knicks IMO..

I don't see how what they'd be so desperate for. Sure he and Vinny don't get along, but Vinny was a bad loss away from getting fired and publicly hung out to dry. I don't think anyone expects him back for next season either.

All I'm keeping in mind is that when Thomas was coming up in trade rumors, the extra-salaries were always tacked on. Thomas+Salmons to the Spurs. Thomas+Heinrich to the Blazers and Lakers. Thomas+Deng to the Wolves. Tyrus was the sweetener.

But there are conflicting reports. Russilo on his nba podcast on ESPN from Wednesday had two different stories from 2 different scouts: 1 that Thomas could be had for nothing and the other had the opposite.

Now that they've put down their cap for next season with the flexibility of a QO on Thomas, the safe thing I think is to just keep him unless they get thrown Splitter or a first, maybe unprotected.

[objective]

From what we are hearing, the Spurs as of right now have no deal close to being done. They have supposedly had some "close calls" but there is a chance now that nothing happens. However, they have all hands on deck and will supposedly be aggressive.


hopefully Spurs fans will get to hear about some of those close calls after the curtain closes.

and hopefull 'all hands on deck' isn't CIA Pop and KGB Lindsey speak for "Well, Mason only has this year left . . . let's add Splitter to get a conditional 2nd!" :lol

[timvp]

It's weird that there hasn't been much mention of a Mahinmi salary dump. Mahinmi to the Nets makes a whole lot of sense (the showcase, Roy Rodgers, they suck, etc.) but it's tough to say what he's worth. If the Spurs don't plan to keep him, hopefully they at least can get a second round pick for him.

[objective]

It's weird that there hasn't been much mention of a Mahinmi salary dump. Mahinmi to the Nets makes a whole lot of sense (the showcase, Roy Rodgers, they suck, etc.) but it's tough to say what he's worth. If the Spurs don't plan to keep him, hopefully they at least can get a second round pick for him.

MEM can take him straight up also, so can OKC and boy wonder.

Mahinmi traded out will be like the last guy to get a lifeboat from the Titanic. :depressed

[HarlemHeat37]

You obviously could be right, I'm just saying what all the Chicago sources are reporting, and their fanbase seems to believe that it's like a guarantee that he gets traded..this seems to be the consensus with everybody related to the Bulls..who knows though, "sources" are wrong all the time..

I could see why they would do it for Mason + a 1st round pick though, that should be a no-brainer for the Bulls IMO..their frontcourt is already Noah/Miller/Gibson/Warrick + possibly James Johnson..they could be set there already..their backcourt is very poor though..I really don't think they want to be relying on Pargo and Devin Brown to be their main guys behind Rose and Hinrich..so they would be getting a player to help them for their playoff push, and then possibly a 1st round pick, which would make it a no-brainer IMO..

I think it's very possible that the Spurs are reluctant to give up the pick though..

ESPN is saying Sacramento might be trying to get Hinrich in the T-Mac package though, so we'll see what happens with Thomas here, he could be packaged..should be interesting and complicated..

[mountainballer]

..their frontcourt is already Noah/Miller/Gibson/Warrick + possibly James Johnson..

did they really get Warrick? I thought it was Salmons for Kurt Thomas and Elson.

[HarlemHeat37]

The original report was Thomas/Elson, but apparently it's Hakim Warrick/Joe Alexander according to Milwaukee radio..they said there's still a chance that it could be the former, but it's most likely the latter..

That would probably fill up their big man rotation anyways, I would assume..Kurt is still a pretty useful player..

[TimDunkem]

Kurt Thomas wasn't traded. He was playing last night.

[timvp]

I'm pretty damn surprised the Bulls not only got expiring contracts but also a useful player (Warrick) in return for Salmons. If the Bucks are aiming for the playoffs, they could be a buyer if the Spurs are looking to unload McDyess' contract.

[mountainballer]

Kurt Thomas wasn't traded. He was playing last night.

so was Kevin Martin.

[mountainballer]

The original report was Thomas/Elson, but apparently it's Hakim Warrick/Joe Alexander according to Milwaukee radio..they said there's still a chance that it could be the former, but it's most likely the latter..

That would probably fill up their big man rotation anyways, I would assume..Kurt is still a pretty useful player..

Warrick and Gibson would definitely make TT redundant.
maybe I read to much into it.....first it's KT, then it's changed to Warrick.....could it be that they switched to Warrick because the agreed to a deal about TT?

[objective]

It's weird that there hasn't been much mention of a Mahinmi salary dump. Mahinmi to the Nets makes a whole lot of sense (the showcase, Roy Rodgers, they suck, etc.) but it's tough to say what he's worth. If the Spurs don't plan to keep him, hopefully they at least can get a second round pick for him.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I just watched the dvr'd game from last night and I couldn't find Mahinmi behind the bench. Anywhere. And believe me I looked. He wasn't active because Finley and Ratliff were and were easily found, and there was no one near like Mahinmi in streetclothes.

I checked every time the camera would cut to the bench and paused a lot of times. He wasn't there unless he was well off to the side and I fast forwarded past him. I would have thought he'd be sitting next to the local looking intern that's always hanging around behind the bench. But I couldn't find him.

Now ordinarily I'm sure if he was left at the hotel or was late from the a/s break we'd hear about it . . . but with McDonald at the the helm . . . :lol

Maybe I'm grasping at straws or jumping at shadows or whatever, but Ian must be toast.

[HarlemHeat37]

Warrick and Gibson would definitely make TT redundant.
maybe I read to much into it.....first it's KT, then it's changed to Warrick.....could it be that they switched to Warrick because the agreed to a deal about TT?

I think that's a great point, and that's likely the situation IMO..the deal isn't official and hasn't been sent in to the league yet, so I would assume that they're ironing out the other potential moves before making it official..

The Bucks-Bulls probably agreed to either deal in principal, so either Thomas/Elson or Warrick/Alexander..the Bulls are probably seeing what ends up happening with Hinrich/Thomas before making it an official deal, or something like that..it doesn't really affect the Bucks either way..


It's kind of tough for the Spurs, because if the FO actually is interested in Thomas, they're gonna have to wait and see what happens with Sacramento/Houston/Chicago/New York before making a decision, which could explain why the Spurs aren't "close" to a deal yet, like timvp said..

[L.I.T]

This is one of the first years I can remember where there is so much uncertainty; even around deals supposedly 'completed in principle'.

I would be very curious to see what deals the Spurs pursuing that fell through.

[timvp]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I just watched the dvr'd game from last night and I couldn't find Mahinmi behind the bench. Anywhere. And believe me I looked. He wasn't active because Finley and Ratliff were and were easily found, and there was no one near like Mahinmi in streetclothes.

I checked every time the camera would cut to the bench and paused a lot of times. He wasn't there unless he was well off to the side and I fast forwarded past him. I would have thought he'd be sitting next to the local looking intern that's always hanging around behind the bench. But I couldn't find him.

Now ordinarily I'm sure if he was left at the hotel or was late from the a/s break we'd hear about it . . . but with McDonald at the the helm . . . :lol

Maybe I'm grasping at straws or jumping at shadows or whatever, but Ian must be toast.

That's interesting. I wasn't looking for him. Perhaps the Spurs told him to just stay on his All-Star break since he'll either be traded or waived.

That would honestly make sense. There's really no use to have Mahinmi around in about eight hours.

[Rito3d30]

I dun think the Spurs wants to make any changes
Hope I'm wrong:(

[timvp]

It's kind of tough for the Spurs, because if the FO actually is interested in Thomas, they're gonna have to wait and see what happens with Sacramento/Houston/Chicago/New York before making a decision, which could explain why the Spurs aren't "close" to a deal yet, like timvp said..

As of after the game, the Spurs were supposedly in a holding pattern waiting for the Knicks and Rockets to make their moves. That will probably remain the case until those teams do whatever they do.

[HarlemHeat37]

If Ian is waived or dumped and the Spurs don't get a guy like Thomas, there's going to be a meltdown here:lol

[timvp]

If Ian is waived or dumped and the Spurs don't get a guy like Thomas, there's going to be a meltdown here:lol

True :lol

Considering there was a breakdown after the Spurs let go of Pops Mensah-Bonsu, the Mahinmi meltdown should be entertaining. Especially considering the Spurs invested about five days on Pops and about five years on Mahinmi.

[objective]

Like a meltdown wouldn't be justified?

[mountainballer]

If Ian is waived or dumped and the Spurs don't get a guy like Thomas, there's going to be a meltdown here:lol

end of days scenario:
Mason traded for a protected 2nd rounder, Ian waived, TT traded to Houston for just Brian Cook. t-mac bought out and signs with the Lakers. RJ's number retired and hanging alongside 50.

[timvp]

Like a meltdown wouldn't be justified?

I guess. Though personally I have long ago given up on the Mahinmi situation having a positive ending. At this point, a second round pick for him would be better than I expect. There might be a miracle (the Spurs are hiding him so they can re-sign him in the summer) but I highly doubt it.

In reality, Mahinmi was done as a Spur after they didn't pick up his option and didn't go with the "Let Mahinmi Start Ten Games" plan. By this point, I'm just ready to see what happens and get past that monumental waste of time and resources.

[objective]

end of days scenario:
Mason traded for a protected 2nd rounder, Ian waived, TT traded to Houston for just Brian Cook. t-mac bought out and signs with the Lakers. RJ's number retired and hanging alongside 50.

I don't think they'd dump Mason and cut Ian. That would mean they'd have to sign a player unless my math is wrong.


I guess. Though personally I have long ago given up on the Mahinmi situation having a positive ending. At this point, a second round pick for him would be better than I expect. There might be a miracle (the Spurs are hiding him so they can re-sign him in the summer) but I highly doubt it.

In reality, Mahinmi was done as a Spur after they didn't pick up his option and didn't go with the "Let Mahinmi Start Ten Games" plan. By this point, I'm just ready to see what happens and get past that monumental waste of time and resources.

I don't disagree that his clock was a punched a long time ago, maybe longer than any realize.

Doesn't mean that criticism of how he was handled and/or given opportunities to succeed or fail wouldn't be completely justified. Even before he sank or swam with another team.

So a meltdown I think would be theraputic.

Now if Ian went on to do very well with another team late this year or next . . .

then there wouldn't be just a meltdown

it would be a thermonuclear pop-ageddon

[objective]

And if it does turn out that Ian wasn't there at the game in advance of being traded/bought out etc . . .

and McDonald didn't report it . . .

What a complete travesty that would be. Even more pathetic than usual from the Express News. If some layperson jackass like me could sniff it out and some dude there at the pressbox couldn't . . .

I just hope I'm wrong for McD's sake.

[timvp]

I would go back and check the tape but if you were looking for him all game, I'll go ahead and trust you. The only other possibility is Conseco Fieldhouse put the "behind the bench" seats off to the corner.

[objective]

i already deleted it. I looked hard from around the 2nd half of the 3rd, all the fourth, the postgame walk into the tunnel, went back to the beginning, watched the pregame warmups, and through the first timeout, all specifically for Ian. After going through that, I didn't bother with the mid-first through early 3rd.

At one point during the last time out I thought I spotted someone behind the coaches bending down, but it ended up being just some trainer.

If he was sitting in the seats on the basket side, then he wasn't visible to the cameras.

[timvp]

If the alternative is Bonner and Bogans starting the rest of the season (which appears likely), I pray for a trade.







http://www.guzer.com/pictures/boy_dog_pray.jpg
Please make a trade

[objective]

but I would welcome someone else checking the tape as well. Maybe if Ian can be found it will provide proof . . . that I need to finally go to sleep :lol My eyes can't be trusted after so many waking hours

[Chieflion]

How many hours to go to the deadline?

[objective]

If the alternative is Bonner and Bogans starting the rest of the season (which appears likely), I pray for a trade.







http://www.guzer.com/pictures/boy_dog_pray.jpg
Please make a trade


Pray all you want . . . there is no God, only :pop:

[jiggy_55]

How many hours to go to the deadline?

7 hours and 5 minutes

[jiggy_55]

pray all you want . . . There is no god, only :pop:

lol

[timtonymanu]

it'll be 6 AM here when the trade deadline comes.

hopefully ill wake up to many threads saying "spurs acquire...." "where does this trade put us?" "sequ: a trade happened and matt bonner is still gonna be our starting center."
"(insert player vs Lakers, Celtics, Cavs)"

[carib]

No more anecdote or speculations the Spurs roster is fix and there will be no trades.

[mountainballer]

whatever works

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[snife20]

Trade deadline is tomorrow and every spursfan in the world are expecting something to be done... I wish rc and pop would still push to improve the team this season even though the offseason was a failure...They still could make one final move to bring this team to contention in some ways and if that doesnt work, rebuilding should start sooner not later.

I still believe and you should...Its all or nothing guys

GO SPURS GO!

[snife20]

Trade deadline is tomorrow and every spursfan in the world are expecting something to be done... I wish rc and pop would still push to improve the team this season even though the offseason was a failure...They could still make one final move to bring this team to contention in some ways and if that doesnt work, rebuilding should start sooner not later.

I still believe and you should...Its all or nothing guys

GO SPURS GO!

[CGD]

Wow Kings trading for T-Mac came out of left field! This probably pushes the Knick to do that Thomas for Harrington deal.

[Bartleby]

Wow Kings trading for T-Mac came out of left field! This probably pushes the Knick to do that Thomas for Harrington deal.

Probably, but I was assuming D'Antoni would do it anyway just to cockblock the Spurs.

[VivaPopovich]

it'll be 6 AM here when the trade deadline comes.

hopefully ill wake up to many threads saying "spurs acquire...." "where does this trade put us?" "sequ: a trade happened and matt bonner is still gonna be our starting center."
"(insert player vs Lakers, Celtics, Cavs)"

lol

[timvp]

The Memphis Grizzlies have about $3.2 million in cap room and are taking with several clubs seeking luxury tax relief. The main targets of the Grizzlies could be the Heat for Dorell Wright or the Jazz for Ronnie Brewer.

According to The Commercial-Appeal, "It is likely that the Grizzlies will pull off a trade at the 11th hour, according to sources with knowledge of the team's dealings. There is, however, confusion within the organization and an element of desperation coming from owner Michael Heisley. The Griz are seriously considering four or five scenarios, according to the sources."

As we noted yesterday, the Grizzlies have shown interest in Roger Mason.

[dbestpro]

Doing nothing is better than selling Mason for tax relief.

[Obstructed_View]

In reality, Mahinmi was done as a Spur after they didn't pick up his option and didn't go with the "Let Mahinmi Start Ten Games" plan. By this point, I'm just ready to see what happens and get past that monumental waste of time and resources.

I guess I need to dig down and find some zen so I can do the same. At this point I'm hoping he's a foul/turnover machine that never cracks a rotation in the NBA. If he actually turns out to be Pops Mensah-Bonsu, then I can be less bitter that he's gone. You and I discussed bringing him up perhaps as early as his second year with the Spurs, so I know you were as optimistic as I was about the kid's development.

And last year's team could have used Mensah-Bonsu's enthusiasm and aggression. With Bonner starting as the post all-star bandaid, it's looking more and more like this year's team could too.

[ElNono]

There were several tense conversations between Steve Kerr and agent Happy Walters over Amar'e Stoudemire situation Wednesday, sources say.

[Chomag]

Pray all you want . . . there is no God, only :pop:

ROFL!

Nice one!

[pad300]

Wow Kings trading for T-Mac came out of left field! This probably pushes the Knick to do that Thomas for Harrington deal.

The Kings trade leaves NY still looking to dump Jeffries.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf83nyz

Jeffries + 2011 first round pick swap rights + 2012 first for Mason, Finley, Mahinmi?

Jeffries could be useful, and this would get us some value for the expirings of players we apparently don't want back (or at least shouldn't for Finley)...

[lurker23]

I've seen multiple reports that more than likely Amar'e is going to stay put. However, here's a couple interesting notes from Chris Mannix:

ChrisMannixSI

Been calling around, most execs believe STAT stays put before the deadline. Some figure PHX feeling a little burned out on Cavs talks

ChrisMannixSI

Still, prevailing feeling is any team with exp contracts and a draft pick will take a shot to see if PHX just wants to dump STAT


Spurs don't have the expirings to match Amare's deal (unless you include Manu), but given what the Spurs have been shopping, expirings + McDyess might be in the cards. Not that I'm necessarily advocating that, of course, but it's potentially an option if the Spurs wanted to go all out.

[Chomag]

Trade deadline is tomorrow and every spursfan in the world are expecting something to be done... I wish rc and pop would still push to improve the team this season even though the offseason was a failure...They could still make one final move to bring this team to contention in some ways and if that doesnt work, rebuilding should start sooner not later.

I still believe and you should...Its all or nothing guys

GO SPURS GO!

Yep, what I'm finding crazy is playoff teams are doing trades to make themselves better. Heck Cavs did a deal even though they are having a good season. Yet Spurs looking like they are standing pat.

I would understand if Spurs were having a good season but this team has been so mediocre, and to just stay with what has been so poor and to see good teams trying to get better. I just don't know...

I just hope the reason for staying pat is becuase we couldn't get any team to take any bait.

[Mel_13]

Yep, what I'm finding crazy is playoff teams are doing trades to make themselves better. Heck Cavs did a deal even though they are having a good season. Yet Spurs looking like they are standing pat.

I would understand if Spurs were having a good season but this team has been so mediocre, and to just stay with what has been so poor and to see good teams trying to get better. I just don't know...

I just hope the reason for staying pat is becuase we couldn't get any team to take any bait.

1. Look at the players that have moved

2. Are there players that would have helped the Spurs?

3. Could the Spurs have beaten the price paid for that player?

4. Would it have been worth the necessary price?

For me, given the transactions that have actually taken place, I don't see any situations where you can answer "yes" to questions 2, 3, and 4.

[ffadicted]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylkhgvr

Just get that done with to improve a little bit and let's move on to the rest of the season, I'm tired of waiting for big deals involving impact players :(

[lurker23]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj71SmnsegGMhBSBjDZoB3K8vLYF?slug=ys-tradebuzz021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Everyone keeps waiting for a sleeper to steal Amar’e Stoudemire in the last hours prior to the trade deadline. How about the San Antonio Spurs? After all, they had privately considered making a bid for Stoudemire.

Still, while the Spurs and Suns did have a cursory conversation in this process, discussions never got going because San Antonio is unwilling to move two of its best young players, guard George Hill and forward DeJuan Blair.

Stoudemire is unhappy with the way he’s been jerked around the last few trade deadlines, and it will undoubtedly be an uncomfortable final several weeks with the Suns.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, 11:11 a.m. ET, Feb. 18

[timvp]

Hill and Blair for a re-signed Stoudemire would be somewhat tempting. Hill and Blair for a half season rental? No way.

[lurker23]

Still, while the Spurs and Suns did have a cursory conversation in this process, discussions never got going because San Antonio is unwilling to move two of its best young players, guard George Hill and forward DeJuan Blair.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, 11:11 a.m. ET, Feb. 18

This is good news to me. I'm glad the Spurs seemingly think as highly about Hill and Blair as we do.

[TimDunkem]

so was Kevin Martin.
So? KT wasn't traded last night....That was my point.

[AFBlue]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj71SmnsegGMhBSBjDZoB3K8vLYF?slug=ys-tradebuzz021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Everyone keeps waiting for a sleeper to steal Amar’e Stoudemire in the last hours prior to the trade deadline. How about the San Antonio Spurs? After all, they had privately considered making a bid for Stoudemire.

Still, while the Spurs and Suns did have a cursory conversation in this process, discussions never got going because San Antonio is unwilling to move two of its best young players, guard George Hill and forward DeJuan Blair.

Stoudemire is unhappy with the way he’s been jerked around the last few trade deadlines, and it will undoubtedly be an uncomfortable final several weeks with the Suns.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, 11:11 a.m. ET, Feb. 18

A little bit futher down in the article it lists Troy Murphy, although it says he's going to stay put.

I don't know if the Spurs have contacted the Pacers about him and been rebuffed, but he's one of the few players left out there that fits the system and legitimately improves the team.

[ffadicted]

Hill and Blair for a re-signed Stoudemire would be somewhat tempting. Hill and Blair for a half season rental? No way.

There's no way Amare doesn't sign an extension with us if he comes here, I'd give up Hill and Blair for him in two seconds. Stoudemire will probably be in the league longer then Blair will, and despite Hill being an up and coming player, you can't say no. The problem is the only way to make it work is sending Ginobili, which I'm def not willing to do along with those two young guys.

[doobs]

Don't get me wrong. I love Hill and Blair. And as a Spurs fan I hate Amar'e.

But let's be honest. Hill and Blair are both undersized for their positions. Blair might not have a career after his first contract expires. Given the rapidly-closing window of opportunity for Tim Duncan, you gotta consider doing what's necessary to get someone like Amar'e.

[Mel_13]

A little bit futher down in the article it lists Troy Murphy, although it says he's going to stay put.

I don't know if the Spurs have contacted the Pacers about him and been rebuffed, but he's one of the few players left out there that fits the system and legitimately improves the team.

Everything fits about Murphy except his 12M salary next year.

[jason1301]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj71SmnsegGMhBSBjDZoB3K8vLYF?slug=ys-tradebuzz021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Everyone keeps waiting for a sleeper to steal Amar’e Stoudemire in the last hours prior to the trade deadline. How about the San Antonio Spurs? After all, they had privately considered making a bid for Stoudemire.

Still, while the Spurs and Suns did have a cursory conversation in this process, discussions never got going because San Antonio is unwilling to move two of its best young players, guard George Hill and forward DeJuan Blair.

Stoudemire is unhappy with the way he’s been jerked around the last few trade deadlines, and it will undoubtedly be an uncomfortable final several weeks with the Suns.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, 11:11 a.m. ET, Feb. 18

with the trade deadline approaching and Amare still in PHO, I could see the Suns trying to get something back instead of losing him this summer. There maybe a chance of him landing in SA, the question is if not G Hill and Blair then who?

[panic giraffe]

T minus 3 hours and 9 minutes.

so we're just not gonna do a damn thing huh?

[jiggy_55]

with the trade deadline approaching and Amare still in PHO, I could see the Suns trying to get something back instead of losing him this summer. There maybe a chance of him landing in SA, the question is if not G Hill and Blair then who?

I would SURELY give up dejuan for Amare. We all know in 5-6 years that dejuans bball career may be over. I'd do that in a heartbeat, losing Hill on the other hand is a no no i'd say.

[lurker23]

Also posted in Tyrus Thomas thread:


@RicBucher

Sources say Cha is likeliest destination for Bulls' Ty Thomas right now, in exchange for expiring contracts. Flip Murray/Acie Law works.

Deal would be Thomas for Law, Murray and protected future 1st-round pick. Not done, but other suitors for Ty believe it will happen.

[timvp]

Also posted in Tyrus Thomas thread:


@RicBucher

Sources say Cha is likeliest destination for Bulls' Ty Thomas right now, in exchange for expiring contracts. Flip Murray/Acie Law works.

Deal would be Thomas for Law, Murray and protected future 1st-round pick. Not done, but other suitors for Ty believe it will happen.

Matt Bonner. Starting center for YOUR San Antonio Spurs.

I'm trying to get used to this.

The trade deadline seems like it's going to be another painful day in what was supposed to be a bounce back season :depressed

[benefactor]

Suns are "going to hold" on Stoudemire, source says. STAT stays in PHX.

[tav1]

Re: Mahinmi. He AND Malik Hairston were at last night's game.

[Chomag]

Matt Bonner. Starting center for YOUR San Antonio Spurs.

I'm trying to get used to this.

The trade deadline seems like it's going to be another painful day in what was supposed to be a bounce back season :depressed

Yep, and the ball can only bounce so much once it's let go.

[Mr. Body]

Matt Bonner. Starting center for YOUR San Antonio Spurs.

I'm trying to get used to this.

The trade deadline seems like it's going to be another painful day in what was supposed to be a bounce back season :depressed

Do you think Popovich would let go of Bonner so easily???

[AFBlue]

Everything fits about Murphy except his 12M salary next year.

It's not my money, but Holt said he'd go over the lux tax for this year and the next if it meant getting Tim another ring.

Obviously it's an impediment, but it adds yet another trade chip for next season, which could end up being flipped for a more long-term piece...or let expire to get back under the lux tax.

[dbestpro]

Pop will not trade anybody. He wants to prove that this team playing small ball can win a championship as it is. ..................period.



............sigh.

[JR3]

Its interesting to see this thread come full cirlce.

[jason1301]

I would SURELY give up dejuan for Amare. We all know in 5-6 years that dejuans bball career may be over. I'd do that in a heartbeat, losing Hill on the other hand is a no no i'd say.

I would too, but I am afraid Blair would be a 20/10 guy playing with Steve Nash in the Suns offense.

[timvp]

Re: Mahinmi. He AND Malik Hairston were at last night's game.

Thanks for the info :tu

[chazley]

Matt Bonner. Starting center for YOUR San Antonio Spurs.

I'm trying to get used to this.

The trade deadline seems like it's going to be another painful day in what was supposed to be a bounce back season :depressed

Timvp, you one of the few posters who I genuinely respect, would you mind putting your input in the thread I made?

[chazley]

and good lord, Gino/Blair for amare one time... wont happen in a million years but long term this deal would be incredible for the spurs.

[benefactor]

Amare is staying in PHX.

[dbestpro]

Wow. If the team is not going to try and get better while everone else moves ahead I can't see me wasting my time on more regression.

I'll see you guys next, year. Maybe, when the draft comes. Have fun. Be careful with your depression.

[timvp]

Timvp, you one of the few posters who I genuinely respect, would you mind putting your input in the thread I made?

I'll post in it later. After this trade deadline :depressed

[chazley]

Amare is staying in PHX.

Yea thats what I think too. But if we offered manu/blair/cash(sarver) and maybe throw in a 2nd rounder, I don't know if the Suns could pass that up. Have Hill/Mason man the 2.

[loveforthegame]

It's easy to assume the Spurs are not being aggressive. I've got a sinking feeling that teams are not wanting to deal with us for one reason or another.

[timvp]

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/25spur.jpg

"When nothing seems to help, I go look at a Spurs championship trophy without as much as a crack showing in it."

[chazley]

If we trade mason, I hope we go after luc richard mbah moute, prob butchered that name but thats the kind of 3/4 i would want and the bucks need a shooter on that team, never know.

[Crosherelooms]

Wow. If the team is not going to try and get better while everone else moves ahead I can't see me wasting my time on more regression.

I'll see you guys next, year.

Promise?

[Shastafarian]

Yea thats what I think too. But if we offered manu/blair/cash(sarver) and maybe throw in a 2nd rounder, I don't know if the Suns could pass that up. Have Hill/Mason man the 2.

All that for a guy who wouldn't re-sign and isn't a good defender. No thanks.

[Mel_13]

Wow. If the team is not going to try and get better while everone else moves ahead I can't see me wasting my time on more regression.

I'll see you guys next, year. Maybe, when the draft comes. Have fun. Be careful with your depression.

Bookmarked for easy access.

[benefactor]

Wow. If the team is not going to try and get better while everone else moves ahead I can't see me wasting my time on more regression.

I'll see you guys next, year. Maybe, when the draft comes. Have fun. Be careful with your depression.
Don't bother.

[timvp]

The Milwaukee Bucks are in serious talks with the Philadelphia 76ers about a deal that will send Jodie Meeks, Francisco Elson and a second-round pick to the Sixers for Primoz Brezec and Royal Ivey, two league sources told ESPN.com.

Blockbuster.

[admiralsnackbar]

All that for a guy who wouldn't re-sign and isn't a good defender. No thanks.
Co-sign.

[timvp]

Multiple sources say the Knicks have reached a tentative agreement on a deal with Boston sending Nate Robinson and a second player to the Celtics for Eddie House, J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker. The identity of the second New York player was not immediately clear.

[EricB]

Still don't understand boston's thinking there...

[tav1]

Thanks for the info :tu

No problem. But you won't like this (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/).

[jiggy_55]

Via twitter:

WojYahooNBA

Spurs still trying to trade Roger Mason but nothing imminent, source says. As for Richard Jefferson, forget it. They tried. No shot.

[Chomag]

No problem. But you won't like this (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/).

Oh Geeeze! I hope TP was joking...

Trade him while you can if true!

[Death In June]

They tried to ship off RMJ for a second round pick, and they couldn't even do as much. If that's their one bargaining chip, and your returns are a second round pick, why even try. Resign, please.

[Sausage]

chadfordinsider

Just filed to ESPN with @STEIN_LINE_HQ: Utah and Miami have opened discussions on a possible Carlos Boozer deal before 3 PM deadline

[timvp]

No problem. But you won't like this (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/).

:smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode:

[benefactor]

No problem. But you won't like this (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/).
Trade him.

[timvp]

So it sounds like the only question left is if Peter Holt will save some money by the Spurs salary dumping RMJ.

Fantastic.

[Wombatzu]

No problem. But you won't like this (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/).

Parker must be traded while he still has value...

[HarlemHeat37]

Well this was fun..at least the deadline gave us some NBA excitement for a few days..now back to NBA reality..

[Kuestmaster]

Trade him.

+1

parker + mason for bosh would work?

[Kuestmaster]

if parker plans to play with NT even with PF the time to trade him is now.
maybe he will be a manu2 and injury with france this summer.
that would fuck not only this season but the next. he wouldn't be at 100% and wouldn't be tradeable.

we will make the 100 pages before the deadline?

[Mel_13]

:smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode:

My theory on that is simple. Tony made all that noise earlier about not playing for the NT to get the Spurs to open negotiations on an extension. The Spurs said we'll talk to you in 2011 and so Tony sees no reason to take the summer off. Except for giving the Spurs the best chance to win next year, which is now clearly not his highest priority.

There's really no reason not to trade Tony this summer.

[SpurNation]

+1

parker + mason for bosh would work?

hmmm
http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2010/02/no-bosh-for-the-game-in-jersey.html

[EricB]

So it sounds like the only question left is if Peter Holt will save some money by the Spurs salary dumping RMJ.

Fantastic.


Can you honestly blame Holt?

[Sausage]

WojYahooNBA

Utah and Miami have recruited Wiz to be 3rd team in Boozer talks. Wash would get cap relief out of it. Beasley not involved, source says.

[EricB]

Lol WTF Utah? Your playing great and now your gonna blow it up?

[Spursmania]

Lol WTF Utah? Your playing great and now your gonna blow it up?

Agreed. No way Utah trades Boozer right now. They would essentially be taking themselves out of serious contention. I don't think they would make such a boneheaded move like that.

[lurker23]

Breaking news on several Twitter feeds: NYK/Rockets/Kings three way deal is done.

STEIN_LINE_HQ

T-Mac and Sergio Rodriguez to NYK; Kev Martin/Jared Jeffries/swap of 2011 first with Knicks and 2012 first from Knicks to Houston AND

STEIN_LINE_HQ

Kings get Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey and Larry Hughes' expiring contract . . . all just filed to ESPN.com. Link coming momentarily

[Sausage]

STEIN_LINE_HQ

T-Mac and Sergio Rodriguez to NYK; Kev Martin/Jared Jeffries/swap of 2011 first with Knicks and 2012 first from Knicks to Houston AND


Kings get Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey and Larry Hughes' expiring contract . . . all just filed to ESPN.com. Link coming momentarily

Sources say Houston gets Kevin Martin, Jared Jeffries, right to swap first-round picks with NYK in 2011 and New York's first-rounder in 2012

[timvp]

Breaking news on several Twitter feeds: NYK/Rockets/Kings three way deal is done.

STEIN_LINE_HQ

T-Mac and Sergio Rodriguez to NYK; Kev Martin/Jared Jeffries/swap of 2011 first with Knicks and 2012 first from Knicks to Houston AND

STEIN_LINE_HQ

Kings get Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey and Larry Hughes' expiring contract . . . all just filed to ESPN.com. Link coming momentarily

Damn, those picks should be gold for the Rockets.

[EricB]

Damn the rockets let go Carl landry. Slightly suprising there...

[benefactor]

Two first round picks make the trade much more palatable for Houston.

[ohmwrecker]

Did Armstrong and Thomas fall out of that Kings/Knicks/Rockets deal? They were originally included before the Knicks got involved.

[benefactor]

Damn the rockets let go Carl landry. Slightly suprising there...
Two...first...round...picks.

[lurker23]

chadfordinsider

Latest: Bucks got right to swap first round picks with Bulls this year as part of Salmons deal. Top 10 protected

[ohmwrecker]

Two first round picks make the trade much more palatable for Houston.
Losing Landry and gaining Jeffries . . . they had to get something.

[benefactor]

Morey>>>>R.C.

[ElNono]

T-Mac just texted a friend, giddy, saying: "I'm a New York Knick!"

[Mel_13]

Two...first...round...picks.

In 2011, it's the right to exchange picks.

We all assume that Knicks will fail in the FA hunt this summer, but if they do well there may not be much difference in the draft positions of New York and Houston in 2011. If they do well this summer and add to it in the summer of 2011, that 2012 pick may not be that great.

Still, smart money is still on the Knicks failing with all that cap space this summer and those draft chips being very valuable to Houston.

If I'm a Rocket fan, I probably would rather keep Landry.

[DesignatedT]

There not "getting" two first round picks this year. just swapping.... they will still have just 1 pick this draft.

[Mr. Body]

Morey>>>>R.C.

Yes, quite easily.

[lurker23]

Conflicting reports of whether the Rockets are getting Jordan Hill as well.

[DesignatedT]

kevin martin is drastically overrated. this guy is nothing special at all and the 4 years/45 mil left on his contract solidifies this. ugh i would not want him... but at least they made a move.... they knew they needed to do something i guess.

[loveforthegame]

What are the Kings going to do with all those big men?

Hawes, Thompson, Landry, Brockmann, Nocioni, Dorsey, May, Thomas.

[lurker23]

Most reports are now saying that the Rockets also receive Jordan Hill. Also:

Edit:

chadfordinsider

Correction: Knicks pick in 2011 is Top 1 protected. In 2012 the Knicks pick is Top 5 protected

[Mel_13]

Most reports are now saying that the Rockets also receive Jordan Hill. Also:

chadfordinsider

Latest: A source told ESPN.com that the Knicks pick in 2011 is Top 5 protected. In 2012 the Knicks pick is only Top 1 protected

The Knicks are really going all-in this summer. If they fail with all that cap space this summer, they'll be screwed for another decade.

[timvp]

Damn, now we gotta root for the Knicks to land some good talent this summer? If not, there could be a championship contender up the street.

[lurker23]

ChrisMannixSI

Bucks-Sixers deal (Royal Ivey and Primoz Brezec to the Bucks for Jodie Meeks and Francisco Elson) is done, high ranking source tells SI

[HarlemHeat37]

Fuck Sacramento's announcer too..what a tease..

[DBMethos]

ChrisMannixSI

Bucks-Sixers deal (Royal Ivey and Primoz Brezec to the Bucks for Jodie Meeks and Francisco Elson) is done, high ranking source tells SI

Talk about your blockbusters!

[ElNono]

1:10 to go... I hope somebody is still working the phones in San Antonio or Philly...

[Mr. Body]

Doesn't TMac have to be healthy for this to make sense for the Knicks?

[timvp]

So the Spurs aren't even going to salary dump Mahinmi?

This has been a weird 24 hours. First the lineup. Then TP's BS. Now silence.

[HarlemHeat37]

McGrady is healthy, according to Tim Grover..

It's good for NY..cap space + McGrady still has a flashy name, people will go watch him here..I'll go watch him too..

[ElNono]

We need an image of an expiring contract with an EPIC FAIL caption on it...

[benefactor]

So the Spurs aren't even going to salary dump Mahinmi?

This has been a weird 24 hours. First the lineup. Then TP's BS. Now silence.
Yeah...that's kinda hard to understand. Why would the Spurs choose to eat his contract and the tax to have him walk away at the end of the year?

[ElNono]

Yeah...that's kinda hard to understand. Why would the Spurs choose to eat his contract and the tax to have him walk away at the end of the year?

CIA :pop:

:lol

[Chomag]

Yeah...that's kinda hard to understand. Why would the Spurs choose to eat his contract and the tax to have him walk away at the end of the year?

Dosn't make any sence to me but what has this season.

[panic giraffe]

so nothing at all. wow.

[Kuestmaster]

this is depressing. all teams moving and we will remain with the masons, bonners, finleys...

we are not doing THAT good with those players. trade them. plus parker

[RiverwalkParade]

Just wait...There will be a story that comes out tomorrow morning about a trade taht was going to go through at the 11th hour but was just a little too late. Ala Barry for JR Smith or Bowen-Hill for Camby.

Do the Spurs pay off the media to report "well at least we tried" stories to tease their fan base with what could have been?

[DBMethos]

Don't give up hope guys! Come 3:01 EST we'll hear about a potentially awesome trade that fell apart right at the deadline...something about the paperwork not getting done in time. Then they can say at least they tried! :depressed

Edit: Ah, RiverwalkParade just beat me to it!

[ginobili fan]

We need to make it to 100 pages !!!!!

[ginobili fan]

1 hour left to make 100

[ginobili fan]

plz come on people...

[ohmwrecker]

CIA :pop:

:lol

Surely Pop would have been fired from the CIA by now.

[kjhip1]

So the Spurs aren't even going to salary dump Mahinmi?

This has been a weird 24 hours. First the lineup. Then TP's BS. Now silence.

Maybe this is the calm before the storm and the Spurs make some trade.......Or maybe just maybe NOTHING happens and we still root for this team regardless of who they put on the floor.

[ginobili fan]

Surely Pop would have been fired from the CIA by now.

No he would have been killed by the CIA.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs are just going to enjoy the contracts expiring themselves.

[timvp]

Brian Windhorst, The Plain Dealer: "Warning. Rumors out there that Wizards are involved in three-way talks with Miami and Utah. Ilgauskas could get traded again. (1:22 p.m. ET, Feb. 18)

Boozer to Miami?

[ace3g]

its funny, the year the Spurs clearly need to make a trade, they seem to have expiring contracts that teams could use, and nothing, they couldn't even get involved in a 3 team trade.

I didn't want a huge blow up this team trade, I just wanted to get some decent pieces. I really wanted Salmons to help our lack of true SG/SF

[Chomag]

Spurs are just going to enjoy the contracts expiring themselves.

Yep,what a waste. You can't tell me that Spurs couldn't package anything with all their juicy expiring... FO fail.

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope the Spurs call the Warriors and try the Mason for Bell trade

We have nothing to lose. Mason isn't playing anyway so if Bell can get healthy and play some D fine

[Kuestmaster]

don't worry. it's only 2:15 pm

[Libri]

its funny, the year the Spurs clearly need to make a trade, they seem to have expiring contracts that teams could use, and nothing, they couldn't even get involved in a 3 team trade.

I didn't want a huge blow up this team trade, I just wanted to get some decent pieces. I really wanted Salmons to help our lack of true SG/SF

Yes, this season the Spurs had assets to work with. In years past, they only had scrubs and past their prime players that nobody wanted.

[pad300]

Bucks made a steal in acquiring Salmons:
From
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64844/20100218/bucks_acquire_salmons_get_to_swap_picks_with_bulls/

The Chicago Bulls traded John Salmons to the Milwaukee Bucks for Joe Alexander and Hakim Warrick.

In addition, Chicago traded the Bulls’ regular second round draft choices in 2011 and 2012. Also, Milwaukee has the option in NBA Draft 2010 of switching first round picks with Chicago, so long as Chicago’s first round pick is not a top 10 selection.


Two second rounders, and the option to switch in 2010 (top 10 protected). Odds are good that works out to 2 seconds, but Salmons is the best player (on the worst contract though) in the deal. Good deal for the bucks.

[Sobe_Kucks]

Surely they are still trying to get deals done. Doesn't mean one will get done. I don't think we can say FO fail yet because A. We still have some time and B. Just beacuse we have peiuces and wnat to make a deal doesn't mean other teams want our deal. It ain't like the Trade Machine silliness we've seen on here... the number work so we should get so and so... Other teams need to want what we're offering more than letting go of who we are asking for. Staing the obvious but let's cut the FO some slack until we get all of the details.

[ace3g]

chadfordinsider

Latest: Bulls agree to send Ty Thomas to Bobcats. Cats gave up a first rounder to beat Knicks & Nuggets bids http://bit.ly/ESPNChicago

[iManu]

Luis Scola.

[Dro210]

chadfordinsider

Latest: Bulls agree to send Ty Thomas to Bobcats. Cats gave up a first rounder to beat Knicks & Nuggets bids http://bit.ly/ESPNChicago

wtf....

Bulls also get Flip Murray and Acie Law expiring contracts

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

:bang

[HarlemHeat37]

So I wonder if the Spurs "offers" were quiet or if the Spurs didn't make a serious offer at all..

[ginobili fan]

Plenty of time left for the Spurs.

Why are you saying plenty of time ?
just 30 min left right ?

[Libri]

I guess that's it.

[timvp]

35 minutes.

[ElNono]

Boozer to Miami?


A front office executive involved in Carlos Boozer three-way discussion with Miami, Utah and Wash: "It's not going anywhere right now."

[ginobili fan]

We really messed this trade deadline day up. Should have gotten TMac, Martin or Tyrus Thomas. Then we would win for sure.

Why are you keeping Tmac and Martin BS ?
They 're not helping the spurs at all.

[tdunk21]

i guess nothing will happen as usual....the main targets are dealt to other teams so seems like we have to watch pops insane rotations and smallball.....

[Spurs Brazil]

WojYahooNBA
Charlotte and Indiana in serious talks on deal that would send T.J. Ford to Bobcats for package that includes D.J. Augustine, source says.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

don't 4get that the news of trades filter in for a while after the deadline.

[stealthjbravo]

Bonner and Mason are headed to Chicago for picks :o

[Duncan2177]

Pop and RC are a couple of delusional motherfuckers.

[carib]

when is this going to be lock, nothing is going down and we are minutes away from the dead line.

[benefactor]

T-minus half an hour until meltdown.

Edit: 29 minutes

[ElNono]

Bonner and Mason are headed to Chicago for picks :o

Any other source for this besides George Gomez?

[DBMethos]

No way Pop gets rid of Bonner...unless he's going to promote his brother Luke.

[HarlemHeat37]

Who the fuck is George Gomez?..

[timvp]

Shenanigans are a bannable offense right now.

[loveforthegame]

I have a hard time believing we're dumping 2 players just for picks.

[ElNono]

Who the fuck is George Gomez?..

Hell if I know... came from here (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4094269&postcount=567), that's why I brought it up

[Spursmania]

http://andantemosso.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/hourglass.jpg

[Chomag]

I wonder if the FO is even scrambling and hammering the phone. OR were they even serious about anything to begin with and their all just out to lunch right now. lol

[Duncan2177]

No way Pop gets rid of Bonner...unless he's going to promote his brother Luke.

Yea Pop has a thing for ginger heads. :rolleyes

[ElNono]

Charlotte and Indiana in serious talks on deal that would send T.J. Ford to Bobcats for package that includes D.J. Augustine, source says.

[Spursmania]

I guess nobody wanted Mason or Bonner. lol...

[Sobe_Kucks]

Surely they are still trying to get deals done. Doesn't mean one will get done. I don't think we can say FO fail yet because A. We still have some time and B. Just beacuse we have peiuces and wnat to make a deal doesn't mean other teams want our deal. It ain't like the Trade Machine silliness we've seen on here... the number work so we should get so and so... Other teams need to want what we're offering more than letting go of who we are asking for. Staing the obvious but let's cut the FO some slack until we get all of the details.

[RiverwalkParade]

I wonder if the FO is even scrambling and hammering the phone. OR were they even serious about anything to begin with and there all out to lunch right now. lol

This is probably the situation. Or they'll screw up somehow and get the deal into the league fifteen minutes too late. Some BS like that

[ElNono]

Indiana-Charlotte discussions broad, sources say: Talks included Ford and Rush for Augustine, Nazr and Gerald Henderson. Not yet imminent.

[Chomag]

I guess nobody wanted Mason or Bonner. lol...

Yet one of those guys is a starter for us. So sad...:lol

[nkdlunch]

ppl still expecting a trade?

Jesus, wake up...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

You guys have got to remember that it doesn't matter how hard the Spurs FO is working, other teams have to agree to any deal as well :lol

Same with the Nuggets. Been working the phones hard but all they are getting is 'no' . Can't do much about that, unless you want to overpay :smokin

[blkroadrunners]

I guess nobody wanted Mason or Bonner. lol...

Heard the Griz and Heat were interested, but I guess a deal offered wasn't appealing for the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully we can get a last minute dumping of Mason and/or Bonner..I don't want anybody in return..

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Hopefully we can get a last minute dumping of Mason and/or Bonner..I don't want anybody in return..


:toast

[Chomag]

15 minutes.

[Fpoonsie]

Boozer update just in: Source w/knowledge of Jazz thinking says deal "unlikely" but Jazz/Heat still talking w/half-hour left until deadline

[Libri]

Anybody know what time they have to turn in the paperwork?

[Sausage]

Well this sucks.

[nkdlunch]

Hopefully we can get a last minute dumping of Mason and/or Bonner..I don't want anybody in return..

how does dumping Mason help the Spurs this season?

[timvp]

Bogans and Bonner.

Starting.

[Kuestmaster]

okay, 10 minuts to reach the 100 pages. that's the real goal. the trade won't happen

[benefactor]

how does dumping Mason help the Spurs this season?
Money...and they don't have to listen to anymore of his emo rants about playing time.

[doobs]

Go

[doobs]

Spurs

[Spursmania]

Bogans and Bonner.

Starting.

:vomit:

[stealthjbravo]

10 mins

[ginobili fan]

yeah come on people !!!!!!!
Anyway does anyone know how they conclude a trade ?
By fax? The FO are handling it by phone in the WC or what ?

[Bulwark]

You have got to be kidding me...

[Sausage]

8 MINUTES, and nothing going to happen.

[ginobili fan]

http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/stockphotopro_50138cgb_home_sppuser_supe.jpg

[benefactor]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/nba-draft-lottery.jpg

[Chomag]

Bogans and Bonner.

Starting.

Thats a spells a championship right there! What the hell were we all thinking! Teams will now be building their teams to counter those two...:(

[Trainwreck2100]

the 100 pages depends on your settings

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

....

[Death In June]

They had their opportunities, but for whatever reason, they just couldn't move their expirings. I'm not surprised by the lack of a move, but it's a little irritating that so many teams were able to find a way to make themselves better. Conversely, we went from looking for personnel to wanting to salary dump - just to make that RJ contract sting a little less. Spurs really fucked themselves. There is no hope for this team. They had good intentions, but they fucked themselves royally with no contingency plan in site.

[TheProfessor]

Bogans and Bonner.

Starting.
:pctoss

[ginobili fan]

http://www.ticketloot.com/blog/uploads/Images/popovich.jpg

Enjoy Spurs Fans

[Kuestmaster]

that pic of robison and duncan behind the lottery is scaring... it will suck if we can't make the playoffs