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jjktkk
02-17-2010, 04:26 PM
Your 2 spur awards need to be taken away after your trade proposal, or at the very least suspended. Who spiked your coffee?
Bruno
02-17-2010, 04:26 PM
Dorell Wright and a million bucks in the bank would be a nice alternative to Mason sitting on the bench.
A 4 month rental of Dorell Wright woudl cost more than $3M to Spurs. I doubt they will do it for such an average player. If Spurs are interested in him, they could go after him this summer.
Dorell Wright and a million bucks in the bank would be a nice alternative to Mason sitting on the bench.
I'd really like this a lot, but Miami isn't going to swap expiring contracts (and give us cash to boot). On the other hand, if we could be the third team in a Phx/Mia trade involving Amare this could be a nice part that falls into our laps.
timvp
02-17-2010, 04:27 PM
Bruno,
Can Memphis absorb Mason's contract without going over the salary cap? If not, how much salary has to come back to the Spurs to make this work under the CBA?
thanks
I'm not Bruno but by my math the Grizzlies would need to give ~$400K back to the Spurs. In other words, any player on their roster.
Bruno
02-17-2010, 04:28 PM
^what timvp said.
8FOR!3
02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
What does that mean?
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
The problem with a Mason salary dump is that it leaves a hole in the backcourt rotation.
And if we assume the possibility of Bonner/Fin for Thomas, then you have a backcourt rotation that includes a lot more Bogans and Hairston. That doesn't exactly scream "championship contender".
Obstructed_View
02-17-2010, 04:35 PM
A 4 month rental of Dorell Wright woudl cost more than $3M to Spurs. I doubt they will do it for such an average player. If Spurs are interested in him, they could go after him this summer.
Any chance of getting them to throw in a draft pick? And are they on the hook for the entire salary? I thought what they were really doing was picking up his paychecks for the rest of the season so Miami could get a revenue check from the league.
Mel_13
02-17-2010, 04:36 PM
I tried it and it told me they couldn't absorb his whole contract. They have a couple of guys that don't make much and could be bought out. Jamaal "better than Tony Parker" Tinsley is one of them.
I'm not Bruno but by my math the Grizzlies would need to give ~$400K back to the Spurs. In other words, any player on their roster.
^what timvp said.
thanks
Bruno
02-17-2010, 04:39 PM
Any chance of getting them to throw in a draft pick? And are they on the hook for the entire salary? I thought what they were really doing was picking up his paychecks for the rest of the season so Miami could get a revenue check from the league.
Is Spurs trade a TE for Wright it would cost them $2.9M in luxury tax and about $1M in remaining salary.
Heat woudl save a lot of money by going below the tax. They could throw some cash to Spurs to help them. The closest first round pick that Miami can trade is the 2012 one.
Bruno
02-17-2010, 04:41 PM
And if we assume the possibility of Bonner/Fin for Thomas
If Spurs dump Mason and go after Thomas, it will likely be with a Bonner+Mahinmi package.
Obstructed_View
02-17-2010, 04:41 PM
Is Spurs trade a TE for Wright it would cost them $2.9M in luxury tax and about $1M in remaining salary.
Heat woudl save a lot of money by going below the tax. They could throw some cash to Spurs to help them. The closest first round pick that Miami can trade is the 2012 one.
Lux tax. That's the part I forgot about. I'm so used to the Spurs being under it. RJ screws us again. :lol
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 04:48 PM
If Spurs dump Mason and go after Thomas, it will likely be with a Bonner+Mahinmi package.
Ahh...well I can't say that I like the idea of Finley playing a more prominent role down the stretch, but he's probably better than nothing.
Sausage
02-17-2010, 04:48 PM
Nate Robinson Dunks His Way to Celtics
17 February 2010
Looks like Nate Robinson can join the other Celtics that impressed on All-Star Saturday Night…
Nate the Great (?) has been traded to the Boston Celtics in a deal first reported by our boy JB. The Knicks reportedly will recieve Eddie House and a second round pick. This trade should be finalized sometime in the next 24 hours, so don’t be confused by the speculation.
Apparently the Celtics are really high on Nate, who had the option of not being traded I heard. This came out after the Grizzlies expressed interest in him but a deal could not get done. Not only this, but Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni loves Eddie House – please don’t ask me why he has any interest in him at all.
Does this deal push the Celtics back into the elite? NO! Does this deal fix their ‘locker room issues’? NO!
So why make this move?
Well, Nate is sure to give the team a jolt, which is something they desperately needed. The team has been on a decline since Christmas and this could give them some energy off the bench. I think it’s pretty safe to say Eddie House wasn’t providing that energy.
Keep in mind, the details could change in the coming hours, but a deal is 95% likely to get done.
http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/02/nate-robinson-dunks-his-way-to-celtics/
Reported by Jay Harris' twitter.
objective
02-17-2010, 04:49 PM
has this been posted:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-2010
POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 4:39 p.m. ET
Marc Stein: The Miami Heat have indeed expressed interest in San Antonio's Roger Mason, but the Miami deal that interested the Spurs most is no longer possible.
The Spurs were hoping to tempt Miami into absorbing Mason's $3.8 million expiring contract into a $4.3 million trade exception that would have enabled the teams to complete a deal without San Antonio needing to take back another player. A future second-round pick from the Heat would have completed the transaction.
But the Heat, dealing with their own luxury-tax issues like San Antonio and reluctant to add to their payroll, ultimately declined.
And the trade exception in question -- created through the departure of Marcus Banks in Miami's Shawn Marion trade with Toronto on Feb. 15, 2009 -- expired Monday at midnight.
The Spurs and Mason's agent, Mark Bartelstein, have mutually agreed to pursue trades before Thursday's 3 p.m. trading deadline, but it'll take a new trade construction to get Mason to Miami now if the Heat want to try again.
San Antonio is more than $10 million over the luxury-tax threshold, so the deal proposed Monday to Miami would have cut their tax bill by nearly 40 percent. Miami is roughly $2.8 million over the tax threshold.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 04:49 PM
From Wojo's twitter page...obviously doesn't tell us much more than an answer is coming soon, but it's been a slow day.
RT @PDcavsinsider: There are some indications out there that the Suns are getting close to giving Cavs an answer on Amar'e. As in very soon.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Bulwark
02-17-2010, 04:51 PM
has this been posted:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-2010
POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 4:39 p.m. ET
I don't know, but this sounds like they're looking to shed some salary in the case of Mason w/o getting players back.
I. Hustle
02-17-2010, 04:51 PM
Sunuvabitch!
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 04:52 PM
has this been posted:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-2010
POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 4:39 p.m. ET
:lol
Awesome bit of non-news to tease Spurs fans!
timvp
02-17-2010, 04:53 PM
A future second-round pick from the Heat would have completed the transaction.
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
Duncan2177
02-17-2010, 04:54 PM
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
Yea that is weird.
in2deep
02-17-2010, 04:54 PM
...and the Spurs about to throw in the towel
objective
02-17-2010, 04:56 PM
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
sounds more like a cash decision from the Heat than a 2nd round pick holdup.
objective
02-17-2010, 04:56 PM
however, I would not rule out that RC has lost it.
EricB
02-17-2010, 04:57 PM
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
Im surprised more people aren't mad about the fact they would trade him and get nothing back.
timvp
02-17-2010, 04:57 PM
sounds more like a cash decision from the Heat than a 2nd round pick holdup.
I know but why would the Spurs even ask for a second round pick in that situation unless they had another possibly trade. That shows a surprisingly lack of desperation from the Spurs.
Perhaps the Grizzlies are offering a second round pick in addition to one of their small contracts.
Mel_13
02-17-2010, 04:58 PM
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
I believe that something has to go in both directions. Think back to the Beno deal. It would have been for something like a conditional 2nd rounder that was top-58 protected.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Roger Mason for nothing? WTF?
Bruno
02-17-2010, 04:59 PM
WTF? The Spurs had a team thinking about absorbing Mason's salary and they demanded a second round pick on top of it? Either RC has lost it or they have a pretty damn good fallback trade lined up.
It would have likely be a top55 protected second round pick. Mason for nothing isn't a legal trade CBA wise. Miami must trade something.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Mason/Mahinmi for Wright/Cook saves the Spurs $1M....
Spurs liked both when they came out in the draft...thoughts?
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 05:00 PM
It would have likely be a top55 protected second round pick. Mason for nothing isn't a legal trade CBA wise. Miami must trade something.
That's what I thought...can't just trade a player for cash, has to be some kind of pick involved.
EricB
02-17-2010, 05:00 PM
It would have likely be a top55 protected second round pick. Mason for nothing isn't a legal trade CBA wise. Miami must trade something.
Makes sense.
timvp
02-17-2010, 05:00 PM
I believe that something has to go in both directions. Think back to the Beno deal. It would have been for something like a conditional 2nd rounder that was top-58 protected.
If that's what it meant, that makes sense. Hopefully not because if the Spurs are playing any type of hardball in that situation, there's likely more demand for Mason than expected.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 05:02 PM
If the Spurs do trade Mason to the Heat or someone else is it still possible to get Tyrus Thomas without being able to include Mason now?
timvp
02-17-2010, 05:03 PM
It would have likely be a top55 protected second round pick. Mason for nothing isn't a legal trade CBA wise. Miami must trade something.
For clarity sake, the Spurs should start replace "impossible second round pick" with the rights to Sergei Karaulov in the trade rumors.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 05:08 PM
If the Spurs do trade Mason to the Heat or someone else is it still possible to get Tyrus Thomas without being able to include Mason now?
Possible? Yes. Likely? No.
If the Spurs do trade Mason to the Heat or someone else is it still possible to get Tyrus Thomas without being able to include Mason now?
I think so. We'd probably have to include the pick the Bulls have been shopping around for. I'm OK with that assuming Splitter does come over.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 05:18 PM
If the Spurs do trade Mason to the Heat or someone else is it still possible to get Tyrus Thomas without being able to include Mason now?
Thomas alone...yes via Bonner/Mahinmi.
The proposition to include Salmons would be nixed though.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 05:22 PM
thank you. Tomorrow can't come soon enough. I'm not talking about trades anymore unless I hear something rock solid.
Wondered where you'd been.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 05:25 PM
By the way, I'd just like to say Ken Berger at CBS Sports has said absolutely nothing of consequence regarding the Spurs in any manner.
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 05:28 PM
Unfortunately IMO, Unless everything goes as planned with chicago for thomas (which seems pretty unlikely at this point) i believe we give up mase as a salary dump and 2nd round pick. (ugh i hope im wrong)
dbestpro
02-17-2010, 05:36 PM
Mason in a salary dump trade would mean its time for baseball. Pop has lost the team. Pop knows it. RC knows it, and the guy with the check book knows it. Cut the losses and start with damage control denials. Let Manu walk in the summer so we can say it was on Manu. The meltdown begins.
objective
02-17-2010, 05:39 PM
Well . . .
When are the roster-cards due for tonight's game? Warm-ups are in what, 45 minutes maybe?
We should know pretty soon if there's a trade going down tonight, otherwise it's just wait for tomorrow at 2.
Spursmania
02-17-2010, 05:42 PM
Well . . .
When are the roster-cards due for tonight's game? Warm-ups are in what, 45 minutes maybe?
We should know pretty soon if there's a trade going down tonight, otherwise it's just wait for tomorrow at 2.
It's probably wait for tomorrow.
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 05:48 PM
Shit I'm talking about a trade...
Anyways bulls a looking for a shooter and a big. Devin Brown isn't working out for them as planned. Mason seems too perfect for the Bulls but I don't know what's up on thier end.
I really dont see chicago giving up expiring for our expirings, if this shit is really going to go down we would have to be a 3rd team involved in a deal (aka mcgrady deal) or be willing to take on salmons.
both very unlikely.
i would start to turn our attention to miami and memphis now.
Sausage
02-17-2010, 05:49 PM
WojYahooNBA
Bulls have fallen out of consideration for TMac and Houston focus on negotiating draft pick protection to complete NY deal, sources say.
"I guess Chicago could emerge again," a source involved in talks told Y! Sports, "but it doesn't look that way now."
I'll be glad when tomorrow comes and goes so we can be done with the Trade Speculation Threads and start with the Grizzled Free-Agent Signing portion of the season.
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 05:54 PM
I'll be glad when tomorrow comes and goes so we can be done with the Trade Speculation Threads and start with the Grizzled Free-Agent Signing portion of the season.
ugh thats the worst part of the season. nothing but waiting and waiting and waiting.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:00 PM
The Suns have told Amar'e Stoudemire that he is playing tonight against the Dallas Mavericks, suggesting no imminent trade, sources tell Y!
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
From Wojo twitter page...not Spurs related, but Amare saga drags on for one more day.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 06:03 PM
STEIN_LINE_HQ
RT @chadfordinsider: Breaking: Knicks agree to trade Darko to Wolves for Cardinal (link forthcoming)
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 06:04 PM
KBerg_CBS
RT @KCJHoop: Bulls management has told Salmons to remain at team hotel as it works to finalize a trade. Won't play vs. Knicks.
ace3g
02-17-2010, 06:07 PM
STEIN_LINE_HQ
RT @chadfordinsider: Breaking: Knicks agree to trade Darko to Wolves for Cardinal (link forthcoming)
crc21209
02-17-2010, 06:07 PM
Hmmm....so Salmons wont play tonight huh? C'mon Spurs just do it already...get the Salmons/Thomas package!
objective
02-17-2010, 06:08 PM
before that bit about Salmons, I was thinking that there would be no trade with the Spurs.
They were willing to dump Mason for nothing and eliminate him from any possible deals where the other team would need expirings, thus pretty much crippling them from any real deals. If they were down until Miami called it off there must not have been anything else in the works, could there?
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:08 PM
I bet Salmons and others go to Houston.
Book it...
ace3g
02-17-2010, 06:09 PM
WojYahooNBA
The Suns have told Amar'e Stoudemire that he is playing tonight against the Dallas Mavericks, suggesting no imminent trade, sources tell Y!
objective
02-17-2010, 06:10 PM
Wait a second, the the twitter is that the Bulls tell Salmons to shut it down, not Tyrus Thomas.
Is this a Salmons-only deal?
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:11 PM
Wait a second, the the twitter is that the Bulls tell Salmons to shut it down, not Tyrus Thomas.
Is this a Salmons-only deal?
hmm interesting... you would think they would be packaged together.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:11 PM
I hope to God it's not to Houston. Can't wait to see who's active for the game tonight.
lurker23
02-17-2010, 06:11 PM
Bulls on the verge of unloading Salmons
February 17, 2010 5:02 PM
By K.C. Johnson
NEW YORK -- Bulls management has told John Salmons to remain at the team hotel Wednesday night as it finalizes a trade for the veteran swingman, sources said.
It doesn't appear Salmons will be moving to Houston as part of a Tracy McGrady trade, as the Rockets' demands for multiple draft picks is too high.
Unloading Salmons removes all doubt about him possibly exercising his $5.8 million player option this summer and guarantees that the Bulls will have enough money to offer a maximum contract this summer.
The Bulls have a 6:30 p.m. tipoff against the Knicks, the team they have been vying against in efforts to acquire McGrady.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bulls-on-the-verge-of-unloading-salmons.html
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:11 PM
Wait a second, the the twitter is that the Bulls tell Salmons to shut it down, not Tyrus Thomas.
Is this a Salmons-only deal?
Could be.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 06:12 PM
Sources: Milicic headed to Wolves (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4922587)
The New York Knicks have a deal in principle to send Darko Milicic to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Brian Cardinal, two sources with knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com on Wednesday.
The two sides have yet to formally complete the trade and have a trade call scheduled for Thursday morning. Assuming nothing changes overnight, the deal should be officially consummated in the morning.
The trade will save the Knicks $1.8 million and give the Wolves a center to audition for the rest of the season. Milicic has been mired at the end of Mike D'Antoni's bench for months and has publicly said he's likely to return to Europe to play basketball when his contract expires this summer.
The Knicks plan to waive Cardinal in an attempt to clear another roster spot to facilitate a potential deal that would send Nate Robinson to Boston.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:12 PM
Bulls on the verge of unloading Salmons
February 17, 2010 5:02 PM
By K.C. Johnson
NEW YORK -- Bulls management has told John Salmons to remain at the team hotel Wednesday night as it finalizes a trade for the veteran swingman, sources said.
It doesn't appear Salmons will be moving to Houston as part of a Tracy McGrady trade, as the Rockets' demands for multiple draft picks is too high.
Unloading Salmons removes all doubt about him possibly exercising his $5.8 million player option this summer and guarantees that the Bulls will have enough money to offer a maximum contract this summer.
The Bulls have a 6:30 p.m. tipoff against the Knicks, the team they have been vying against in efforts to acquire McGrady.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bulls-on-the-verge-of-unloading-salmons.html
Yeah DWade, goin home...
timvp
02-17-2010, 06:14 PM
If the Spurs trade expiring just for Salmons, I will personally go drug test RC.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:15 PM
If the Spurs trade expiring just for Salmons, I will personally go drug test RC.
I disagree, if you can improve the D and the swingman position by getting a Salmons you do it.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:15 PM
It would make no sense to trade just for Salmons. The Spurs better have something damn good in the works with someone else if they're only getting Salmons from Chicago.
timvp
02-17-2010, 06:16 PM
I disagree, if you can improve the D and the swingman position by getting a Salmons you do it.
You only trade for Salmons by himself if the plan is to let Manu walk.
pensive
02-17-2010, 06:16 PM
From twitter:
@JMACSAEN: Pop, from pre-game at Indiana, on #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) at trade deadline: "I wouldn’t expect anything to happen for us,"
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:16 PM
If the Spurs trade expiring just for Salmons, I will personally go drug test RC.
mason and bonner for salmons..... id do it in a hearbeat. getting to close to the deadline to play games... they might not have wanted to get rid of thomas just yet.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:17 PM
You only trade for Salmons by himself if the plan is to let Manu walk.
If that one Manu fan is right and one team is gonna supposedly offer Ginobili 9 to 11, he was gone anyways.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:18 PM
From twitter:
@JMACSAEN: Pop, from pre-game at Indiana, on #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) at trade deadline: "I wouldn’t expect anything to happen for us,"
Hot damn theres a trade goin down.
Spurs Brazil
02-17-2010, 06:18 PM
Trade brewing? Bulls' Salmons pulled from lineup
February, 17, 2010 Feb 176:05PM ETComment Email Print Share By Marc Stein
Archive The Chicago Bulls are holding guard John Salmons out of Wednesday’s game at New York in anticipation of a trade, ESPN.com has learned.
Salmons’ destination could not be immediately confirmed, but the Bulls have made the decision to pull Salmons out of the game against the Knicks because he is going to be traded before Thursday’s 3 p.m. trading deadline.
Any team willing to take on Salmons has to pay him $5.8 million next season.
The Bulls have been trying to force teams interested in Tyrus Thomas to include Salmons in the deal or include him as part of a package for Houston’s Tracy McGrady.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/category/_/name/truehoop-trade-reports
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:18 PM
If that one Manu fan is right and one team is gonna supposedly offer Ginobili 9 to 11, he was gone anyways.
lmao manu getting 3 years at 30 million would be absurd. no way we match that.
timvp
02-17-2010, 06:19 PM
From twitter:
@JMACSAEN: Pop, from pre-game at Indiana, on #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) at trade deadline: "I wouldn’t expect anything to happen for us,"
Sounds like a trade in the works.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:19 PM
After Pop's comments, I expect a trade.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:20 PM
Sounds like a trade in the works.
I'm hoping to hear Tyrus Thomas is getting held out tonight as well
*cue praying dog picture*
From twitter:
@JMACSAEN: Pop, from pre-game at Indiana, on #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) at trade deadline: "I wouldn’t expect anything to happen for us,"
http://www.acorscadden.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/tarp-30198.jpg
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:20 PM
^ :lmao
Libri
02-17-2010, 06:21 PM
From twitter:
@JMACSAEN: Pop, from pre-game at Indiana, on #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) at trade deadline: "I wouldn’t expect anything to happen for us,"
A trade in the works? :stirpot:
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:22 PM
Let's see what McDonald and Monroe say when the game chat starts.
Pentagruel
02-17-2010, 06:22 PM
Would we really be foolish enough to take on Salmons contract for expirers when the Bulls were trying to force feed him to any team with a Tyrus trade?
lurker23
02-17-2010, 06:22 PM
The Bulls are close to a trade of John Salmons that would clear enough salary cap space for the Bulls so they will be able to offer a maximum contract to a free agent this summer, according to league sources with knowledge of the discussions.
As a result, the Bulls have decided not to play Salmons Wednesday against the Knicks in order not to risk an injury, which could void the potential deal.
The sources say both teams have agreed in principle to the main elements of the trade. It probably won’t be completed until Thursday morning before the 2 p.m. (Chicago time) NBA trade deadline.
Salmons is considered to be the most talented player in the trade. But the Bulls would be receiving a player or two who could help them the rest of this season with both on expiring deals.As a result, the Bulls could get to approximately $18 million under the salary cap for next season. A maximum deal is expected to be about $16 million to $16.5 million.
The identity of the other team is not known.
These talks also signal that the Bulls have moved on and will not pursue Houston’s Tracy McGrady, who may not be able to even play the rest of this season. The principal reason is the Rockets have been pursuing a major package of starting and young players, draft picks and expiring contracts which would cripple the Bulls chances to make the playoffs this season.
Though Salmons is a regular for the Bulls averaging 12.7 points and more than 33 minutes per game, the deal would not disturb the Bulls starting rotation. The Bulls are trying to get back a front court player in return in the deal to ease the burden on their injured big men.
With Houston making what many believe are such outrageous demands for McGrady’s contract, sources are saying the Knicks also are backing out and pursuing a smaller deal for Nate Robinson.
The Bulls still are engaged in talks with other teams in separate deals, but it is appearing less likely that any of those deals will be done.
But if the Bulls can complete this trade it would accomplish their principal goals of establishing enough salary cap room to pursue a major free agent this summer and not disturb their starting lineup so they remain in position to make a good run for the playoffs.
http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2010/02/bulls-close-to-salmons-trade-salmons-out-vs-knicks.html
objective
02-17-2010, 06:23 PM
Does Kansas play tonight?
Because if they do, no way RC will be free to sign off on a trade.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:24 PM
The Bulls are close to a trade of John Salmons that would clear enough salary cap space for the Bulls so they will be able to offer a maximum contract to a free agent this summer, according to league sources with knowledge of the discussions.
As a result, the Bulls have decided not to play Salmons Wednesday against the Knicks in order not to risk an injury, which could void the potential deal.
The sources say both teams have agreed in principle to the main elements of the trade. It probably won’t be completed until Thursday morning before the 2 p.m. (Chicago time) NBA trade deadline.
Salmons is considered to be the most talented player in the trade. But the Bulls would be receiving a player or two who could help them the rest of this season with both on expiring deals.As a result, the Bulls could get to approximately $18 million under the salary cap for next season. A maximum deal is expected to be about $16 million to $16.5 million.
The identity of the other team is not known.
These talks also signal that the Bulls have moved on and will not pursue Houston’s Tracy McGrady, who may not be able to even play the rest of this season. The principal reason is the Rockets have been pursuing a major package of starting and young players, draft picks and expiring contracts which would cripple the Bulls chances to make the playoffs this season.
Though Salmons is a regular for the Bulls averaging 12.7 points and more than 33 minutes per game, the deal would not disturb the Bulls starting rotation. The Bulls are trying to get back a front court player in return in the deal to ease the burden on their injured big men.
With Houston making what many believe are such outrageous demands for McGrady’s contract, sources are saying the Knicks also are backing out and pursuing a smaller deal for Nate Robinson.
The Bulls still are engaged in talks with other teams in separate deals, but it is appearing less likely that any of those deals will be done.
But if the Bulls can complete this trade it would accomplish their principal goals of establishing enough salary cap room to pursue a major free agent this summer and not disturb their starting lineup so they remain in position to make a good run for the playoffs.
http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2010/02/bulls-close-to-salmons-trade-salmons-out-vs-knicks.html
Sounds like that other team could be the Spurs. Mason+Bonner?
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:24 PM
Does Kansas play tonight?
Because if they do, no way RC will be free to sign off on a trade.
:rolleyes
Hilarious
I believe he's on his way to Spain with the scouts checking out Euros, specificially Tiago Splitter.
pad300
02-17-2010, 06:24 PM
Finley and Mason for Salmons + 2010 Chicago 1st?
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:25 PM
better get elliott and land on LP Broadband tonight.
Mr. Body
02-17-2010, 06:26 PM
Why would the Spurs trade for Salmons straight up? Too much money.
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:26 PM
Finley and Mason for Salmons + 2010 Chicago 1st?
lmao keep dreaming. no way they throw in a first.
Spursmania
02-17-2010, 06:27 PM
:corn:
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:27 PM
Bonner Mason?
Getting a front court player in return..
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:28 PM
I love the first comment from that chicago blog, "john salmons for a top 10 first round pick" lol
ace3g
02-17-2010, 06:30 PM
maybe the Spurs will try to get Salmons by himself + do a 3 team trade to get TT
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:30 PM
Spurs would not do a Salmons trade straight up without TT involved. They need a big man, are interested in TT, the Bulls are interested in moving TT and it would not be a difficult trade to accomplish.
Spurs are not the team getting Salmons if TT plays tonight.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 06:30 PM
PDcavsinsider
Washington Post reports the Cavs have traded for Antawn Jamison
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:31 PM
Does Kansas play tonight?
Because if they do, no way RC will be free to sign off on a trade.
And Pop will be too busy holding Finley's hand and whispering encouraging words into Fin's ear.
Bruno
02-17-2010, 06:31 PM
Jefferson and McDyess aren't starting tonight.
They should ship Bogans as well along with mason, finley and bonner. They are all scrub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElNono
02-17-2010, 06:31 PM
Finley and Mason for Salmons + 2010 Chicago 1st?
:pop: says: Finley is not going anywhere... :nope
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:32 PM
Spurs would not do a Salmons trade straight up without TT involved. They need a big man, are interested in TT, the Bulls are interested in moving TT and it would not be a difficult trade to accomplish.
Spurs are not the team getting Salmons if TT plays tonight.
unless the spurs were unable to mcdyess and therefore wouldn't be able to pay Thomas in the offseason. If that rumor was true that is. we'll find out soon.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:33 PM
Jefferson and McDyess aren't starting tonight.
Hmmm....maybe just to provide some spark off the bench?
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:33 PM
Sounds like that other team could be the Spurs. Mason+Bonner?
I'd give it a 1/29 chance.
timtonymanu
02-17-2010, 06:33 PM
Jefferson and McDyess aren't starting tonight.
showcasing Bonner and Mason before they trade them?
murpjf88
02-17-2010, 06:34 PM
Salmons is having a sub par year so far. The Spurs have enough below average performers thus far, they don't need another.
Hmmm....maybe just to provide some spark off the bench?
Or maybe they won't be playing at all...
How ironic would it be if the Spurs ended up shipping out their two big offseason acquisitions?
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:35 PM
showcasing Bonner and Mason before they trade them?
:lol There is no more showcasing at this point. In fact, if they were to be traded, they would not be playing.
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:35 PM
how awesome would it be if the spurs ended up shipping out their two big offseason acquisitions?
fify
timtonymanu
02-17-2010, 06:35 PM
:lol There is no more showcasing at this point. In fact, if they were to be traded, they would not be playing.
i wasnt serious.
If we get Salmon, Spurs fan dont get to dissapointed when you see straight up small ball!
C: Tim
PF: Jefferson, finley
SF: RJ
SG: GHill, Salmon
PG: TP
WOOT!!! Current Losing streak is on the works.
pad300
02-17-2010, 06:36 PM
Jefferson and McDyess aren't starting tonight.
That's interesting. Those two make sense for about 4 teams
GSW (Magette, Biedrins, other long contracts), PHI (Iguolda, Dalembert, Brand - more long contracts), Indiana (Murphy & Dunleavy? maybe?), Boston (Ray Allen as an expiring, for "talent" to extend the Boston window? I don't believe it would work).
Anybody see other possibilities?
Bruno
02-17-2010, 06:37 PM
McDyess not starting could be a coaching choice. RJ not starting is way more puzzling.
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:37 PM
How ironic would it be if the Spurs ended up shipping out their two big offseason acquisitions?
Not ironic since both are the two biggest disapointments this season.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 06:37 PM
PostSports
RT @MrMichaelLee: Source told me the #Wizards are close to a 3-team trade that will send Jamison to CLE and Gooden to a West. Conf tm #NBA
RT @MrMichaelLee: #Wizards are believed to be getting back Zydrunas Ilgauskas & a 1st round pick, according to the source. #NBA
Spurs getting Gooden?????
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:37 PM
Seriously doubt it's the Spurs for Salmons.
Spursmania
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
:lol There is no more showcasing at this point. In fact, if they were to be traded, they would not be playing.
Exactly. The time for showcasing has passed.
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
McDyess not starting could be a coaching choice. RJ not starting is way more puzzling.
Maybe Pop finally has given up and instead of giving RJ a starting spot he'll have to earn it back. Do you know who's starting for those two? Blair and Manu?
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
RJ very well could be injured.
duncan228
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
Joe Alexander: My understanding is Roger would like to go someplace where he could play more.
If the Spurs make a move involving Roger, they probably want to do something that lowers their luxury tax situation.
Joe Alexander: The details are it's 50-50 the Spurs don't make a trade.
That's the same thing I said in December and January.
timtonymanu
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
Maybe Pop finally has given up and instead of giving RJ a starting spot he'll have to earn it back. Do you know who's starting for those two? Blair and Manu?
Bonner and Bogans.
scottspurs
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
What the hell is going on?
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
Spurs getting Gooden?????
lol not again
Spurs Brazil
02-17-2010, 06:40 PM
Pop: Don't expect a trade
By Jeff McDonald on Feb 17, 10 05:28 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
With 24 hours and ticking until Thursday's NBA trade deadline, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said he doesn't expect his team to swing a deal this season.
Speaking to the media before tonight's game against Indiana, Popovich -- who doubles as the team's president -- said the Spurs are likely to let the deadline pass without incident.
"We've talked to teams, teams have talked to us," Popovich said. "That goes on all year long. It just intensifies come trade deadline. That's what teams do. You're always trying to make yourself better.
"As we all know, though, very few things actually happen at the trade deadline, and I wouldn't expect anything to happen for us, either."
The Spurs have been shopping guard Roger Mason Jr., who earlier in this week expressed a willingness to be traded to a team that could offer more playing time, but so far haven't found a beneficial deal.
According to ESPN.com, a deal that would have sent Mason to Miami for a second-round pick fell through when a Heat trade exception required to make it work expired Monday.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/02/pop-dont-expect.html
Spursmania
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Spurs getting Gooden?????
Doubtful but :lol
crc21209
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Pop: Don't expect a trade
By Jeff McDonald on Feb 17, 10 05:28 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
With 24 hours and ticking until Thursday's NBA trade deadline, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said he doesn't expect his team to swing a deal this season.
Speaking to the media before tonight's game against Indiana, Popovich -- who doubles as the team's president -- said the Spurs are likely to let the deadline pass without incident.
"We've talked to teams, teams have talked to us," Popovich said. "That goes on all year long. It just intensifies come trade deadline. That's what teams do. You're always trying to make yourself better.
"As we all know, though, very few things actually happen at the trade deadline, and I wouldn't expect anything to happen for us, either."
The Spurs have been shopping guard Roger Mason Jr., who earlier in this week expressed a willingness to be traded to a team that could offer more playing time, but so far haven't found a beneficial deal.
According to ESPN.com, a deal that would have sent Mason to Miami for a second-round pick fell through when a Heat trade exception required to make it work expired Monday.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/02/pop-dont-expect.html
So you're telling me theres a trade? :lol
Spurs Brazil
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Jeff McDonald: The Spurs are not getting Salmons and Thomas. You can stop dreaming.
Jeff McDonald: RJ won't be traded this year. How would that phone call go? "We've got a totally underachieving forward with a pretty bad contract. Would you like to take him off our hands AND pay him $15 million next season?"
duncan228
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Jeff McDonald: RJ won't be traded this year. How would that phone call go? "We've got a totally underachieving forward with a pretty bad contract. Would you like to take him off our hands AND pay him $15 million next season?"
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Bonner and Bogans.
If that's the case then the "Tank in 2010" campaign in underway
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:42 PM
This would be like the best television script ever if you replaced the basketball players with characters people cared about.
alchemist
02-17-2010, 06:42 PM
ehhh....this trade shit sucks now, if the Spurs don't get a big all this will be pointless :bang
crc21209
02-17-2010, 06:42 PM
So should we believe McDonald?
pensive
02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
I hate Jeff McDonald...that is all
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
If that's the case then the "Tank in 2010" campaign in underway
Bring on the lottery.
lmbebo
02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
Do we have a reason to believe anything that comes out of his mouth? He just regurgitates crap.
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
I just really don't see a feasible move the Spurs can make, besides dumping someone like Mase in the Memphis type deal. I don't see the Spurs actually acquiring a player that will play.
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
mcdonald doesnt know shit.
duncan228
02-17-2010, 06:44 PM
Jeff McDonald: There just aren't a lot of trades out there to be made. They might move Mason ... but the deals they've been talking about involve getting back future draft picks, not players.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 06:45 PM
Sounds like a trade in the works.
OK . . . but if nothing happens, all the CIA POP people need to STFU.
murpjf88
02-17-2010, 06:45 PM
mcdonald doesnt know shit.
Who does know shit?
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Who does know shit?
not that bum.
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Well McDonald said what I was thinking. That is probably not a good thing.
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Cleveland traded for Antwan Jamison
WojYahooNBA-"Cleveland has agreed in principle to deal for Washington's Antawn Jamison, two sources confirm to Y! Sports. Wash Post first reported it."
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:47 PM
where are these McDonald clips coming from?
I haven't seen shit from him this whole time, now he's apparently discounting every single rumor out there?
are these tweets?
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:47 PM
where are these McDonald clips coming from?
I haven't seen shit from him this whole time, now he's apparently discounting every single rumor out there?
are these tweets?
mysa.com
spurs game chat.
Cleveland traded for Antwan Jamison
WojYahooNBA-"Cleveland has agreed in principle to deal for Washington's Antawn Jamison, two sources confirm to Y! Sports. Wash Post first reported it."
Hope Lebron has fun with Larry Hughes 2.0.
SpursRulez4eVeR
02-17-2010, 06:48 PM
Cleveland traded for Antwan Jamison
WojYahooNBA-"Cleveland has agreed in principle to deal for Washington's Antawn Jamison, two sources confirm to Y! Sports. Wash Post first reported it."
2010 = :king &:lobt:
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:48 PM
mysa.com
spurs game chat.
Thanks.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 06:48 PM
Who does know shit?
Obviously not the Sacramento Kings announcer.
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:48 PM
Pop has become totally delusional if he thinks small ball is going to get us anywhere. Without a legit big to go with Tim the Spurs are going no place but the lottery. Maybe that's what Pop wants to make up for sticking Holt with RJ, Dice & Bogans. If only there was a stretching machine we could use on Blair to get him up around 6'11/7'0. Damn!!! :ihit
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:49 PM
About McDonald...I get the feeling he's about as "plugged in" as my extra refrigerator.
Am I wrong?
bigdog
02-17-2010, 06:50 PM
WojYahooNBA-"Cavs get Jamison and Telfair, Clippers get Drew Gooden and Wash gets Illgauskas, Al Thornton and Brian Skinner and Cavs 1st round pick."
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:51 PM
Cleveland traded for Antwan Jamison
WojYahooNBA-"Cleveland has agreed in principle to deal for Washington's Antawn Jamison, two sources confirm to Y! Sports. Wash Post first reported it."
Hell, the Cavs already had the NBA Championship all but tied up. Let's just give it to them and start this shitty season over!
DPG21920
02-17-2010, 06:51 PM
Cavs give up Z, get Jamison and get a first round pick for taking Telfair? :lol
crc21209
02-17-2010, 06:51 PM
WojYahooNBA-"Cavs get Jamison and Telfair, Clippers get Drew Gooden and Wash gets Illgauskas, Al Thornton and Brian Skinner and Cavs 1st round pick."
I was just about to post this...
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:52 PM
About McDonald...I get the feeling he's about as "plugged in" as my extra refrigerator.
Am I wrong?
Would that be the old one out in the garage with the freon leak? lol
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:53 PM
Would that be the old one out in the garage with the freon leak? lol
Yes...available on CraigsList for $60.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 06:54 PM
WojYahooNBA-"Cavs get Jamison and Telfair, Clippers get Drew Gooden and Wash gets Illgauskas, Al Thornton and Brian Skinner and Cavs 1st round pick."
. . . Then, the Spurs trade Mason for Thornton . . .
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:54 PM
Cavs give up Z, get Jamison and get a first round pick for taking Telfair? :lol
Pretty nice job by Ferry IMO.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 06:56 PM
Pretty nice job by Ferry IMO.
And they don't give up JJ Hickson...wow, that's rediculous.
alchemist
02-17-2010, 06:57 PM
Washington cleaned out the building! They were not messing around.
CROFL Josh Howard :lmao :lmao :lmao
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:57 PM
Yes...available on CraigsList for $60.
Ah, good ol' CraigsList. Those always sell fast at the start of the hunting season. Guys buy em and take em down to the deer camp.
EricB
02-17-2010, 06:57 PM
And they don't give up JJ Hickson...wow, that's rediculous.
Yeah also good job by the Clippers to blow out Thornton and Telfair.
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 06:58 PM
Pretty nice job by Ferry IMO.
Can we trade RC for Danny?
alchemist
02-17-2010, 07:02 PM
Can we trade RC for Danny?
People don't appreciate how much talent the Spurs have lost in the FO....the league plucked away great minds from our team.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 07:02 PM
Who got Brian Skinner's goatee in that deal?
ace3g
02-17-2010, 07:03 PM
WojYahooNBA
The Clippersplan to buyout Drew Gooden's contract and allow him to become a free agent, a league source told Y! Sports.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:04 PM
double post
crc21209
02-17-2010, 07:05 PM
double post
So basically the Clippers didnt get shit? Wow...:lol
Chomag
02-17-2010, 07:05 PM
Cavs give up Z, get Jamison and get a first round pick for taking Telfair? :lol
Really!?!?! Ferk that! Top Elite teams getting better with peanuts while spurs still stay pat from what it loooks like...
This seasos isn't going to be over for a very long time. lol
bigdog
02-17-2010, 07:05 PM
Looks like the Clippers REALLY wanted to get rid of Telfair :lol
Truckules
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
Could the Spurs be looking at Stoudemire now that Cleveland is out of the running? Would the Suns take Mason, McDyess, and Jefferson for Stoudemire and Barbosa?
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
you've got to love Twitter and what it's done for fans as far as getting info on teams and players ASAP
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
So basically the Clippers didnt get shit? Wow...:lol
They got rid of a cancer in Thornton, got a first round pick, and got rid of Telfair's albatross contract.
Clippers did good.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
Could the Spurs be looking at Stoudemire now that Cleveland is out of the running? Would the Suns take Mason, McDyess, and Jefferson for Stoudemire and Barbosa?
I like where your head is at!
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:07 PM
you've got to love Twitter and what it's done for fans as far as getting info on teams and players ASAP
:lol
Im freaking addicted to Twitter and following the Sports writers.
I got addicted to it last July during the baseball trading deadline.
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:08 PM
Could the Spurs be looking at Stoudemire now that Cleveland is out of the running? Would the Suns take Mason, McDyess, and Jefferson for Stoudemire and Barbosa?
Highly Highly doubtfull.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 07:08 PM
I like where your head is at!
If the Suns really wanna dump Stoudemire you never know what they would take now that their main buyer in Cleveland is outta the running....maybe they take Miami's offer now...
Slinkyman
02-17-2010, 07:10 PM
If the Suns really wanna dump Stoudemire you never know what they would take now that their main buyer in Cleveland is outta the running....maybe they take Miami's offer now...
they're not looking to dump him, trying to get value for him while they can. Doubtful they see RJ as Value of any kind.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:10 PM
If the Suns really wanna dump Stoudemire you never know what they would take now that their main buyer in Cleveland is outta the running....maybe they take Miami's offer now...
Oh I was just appreciating how it tied the two not starting and the seeming decline of current options for Stoudemire.
I don't really think some team would be willing to take on $15M of RJs contract next year.
ohmwrecker
02-17-2010, 07:10 PM
I'm pretty sure Miami has us beat on the Amare deal.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 07:11 PM
Gambo620 (sports radio guy in Phoenix)
I am hearing that Amare Stouemire will remain a Phoenix Sun.....
crc21209
02-17-2010, 07:11 PM
:lmao at Amare remaining a Sun...
Truckules
02-17-2010, 07:12 PM
:lmao at Amare remaining a Sun...
Every year there's trade talks and every year Amare stays.
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 07:12 PM
People don't appreciate how much talent the Spurs have lost in the FO....the league plucked away great minds from our team.
Yep...we're like the breeding ground for the rest of the NBA.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:13 PM
He's as good as gone this summer. There are too many teams poised to have a boatload of cash and he's too good to NOT warrant a major contract. Outside of Bosh, I think I'd look to Amare as the next best big man available.
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:13 PM
Amare staying is very funny.
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:14 PM
He's as good as gone this summer. There are too many teams poised to have a boatload of cash and he's too good to NOT warrant a major contract. Outside of Bosh, I think I'd look to Amare as the next best big man available.
He's actually got a 17 million dollar option, he may just pick it up..
bigdog
02-17-2010, 07:14 PM
If Amare stays in Phoenix, I bet he'll be pissed. He's mentioned every year in trade rumors and it never happens. That's gotta suck.:lol
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:15 PM
The Wizards also get the rights to former Cavs pick, Emil Preldzic, a source said.
Oh DAMN...the deal-sealer!
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:17 PM
He's actually got a 17 million dollar option, he may just pick it up..
Given the climate (plenty of teams with money to spend), his talent as he perceives it and the constant trade rumblings...I just don't see that as a very likely scenario.
While he may not get a raise, I sincerely doubt he gets less than that.
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 07:18 PM
Based on the lineup Pop presented for tonight's game it doesn't look like we'll be involved in any trades.
RJ, Dice & Bogan's now owe us!!! They all should pay attention to Blair to see what 'HEART' is. Time for those three to manUP or go gay. It's now their call...:ihit
Rogue
02-17-2010, 07:18 PM
they're not looking to dump him, trying to get value for him while they can. Doubtful they see RJ as Value of any kind.
I think cleveland is getting both Jamison and Amaré. Both are all-in gambles for Cavs that they're coerced to make by Lebron. Now they are only trying their best to infuse as much power as they can despite the future cost.
vander
02-17-2010, 07:18 PM
Could the Spurs be looking at Stoudemire now that Cleveland is out of the running? Would the Suns take Mason, McDyess, and Jefferson for Stoudemire and Barbosa?
Suns want to save money, so I doubt they'd take Jefferson, would have to be Manu
Rogue
02-17-2010, 07:23 PM
If Amare stays in Phoenix, I bet he'll be pissed. He's mentioned every year in trade rumors and it never happens. That's gotta suck.:lol
he's leaving Phoenix anyway. Despite his mediocre D dude is still adequately considered a top 5 big in today's league which has been struggling for many years in the severe lack of good centers like Olajuwon, D-Rob etc... Even if Amaré is managed to be retained once more this time, he will definitely leave Phoenix in summer either through a trade or by opting out.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 07:26 PM
chadfordinsider
What if Danny Ferry just made the deal that gives the Clipps enough room to steal LeBron?
EricB
02-17-2010, 07:29 PM
Why not trade Manu and sign him after the buyout using the LLE? Then extend him with the MLE.
No MLE for Splitter? :(
Pop just said no trades to happen this year prior to Indiana game. Oh well.
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:33 PM
Pop just said no trades to happen this year prior to Indiana game. Oh well.
Guess we might as well give up on the idea of a trade then. :p:
AFBlue
02-17-2010, 07:34 PM
Off to actually play some ball...I don't expect the Spurs to call me, but I'll twitter if there's any news.
timvp
02-17-2010, 07:38 PM
With Bonner starting along with Dice, RJ and RMJ off the bench, there's no indication that a trade is on the way.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 07:39 PM
With Bonner starting along with Dice, RJ and RMJ off the bench, there's no indication that a trade is on the way.
Dear God...
scottspurs
02-17-2010, 07:40 PM
Once Mason checked in my belief has turned to the spurs are not going to make any deal.
Mel_13
02-17-2010, 07:43 PM
Once Mason checked in my belief has turned to the spurs are not going to make any deal.
Probably not, but Malik Rose played the night before he was traded.
Spurs Brazil
02-17-2010, 07:45 PM
Probably not, but Malik Rose played the night before he was traded.
If I'm not wrong it was a game against the Rockets, one of his best im that season
Rogue
02-17-2010, 07:48 PM
With Bonner starting along with Dice, RJ and RMJ off the bench, there's no indication that a trade is on the way.
Pop loves his guys too much to trade anyone of them...
benefactor
02-17-2010, 07:53 PM
With Bonner starting along with Dice, RJ and RMJ off the bench, there's no indication that a trade is on the way.
Awesome. Perhaps we will get to listen to Emo Roger for the season.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 07:54 PM
If I'm not wrong it was a game against the Rockets, one of his best im that season
Yeah he did play and played a very good game...
I. Hustle
02-17-2010, 08:14 PM
I had high hopes for Darko before he played in the NBA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4922587
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 08:15 PM
I had high hopes for Darko before he played in the NBA.
So did Joe Dumars.
I. Hustle
02-17-2010, 08:19 PM
So did Joe Dumars.
I think they jacked him up in Detroit by giving him no PT.
doobs
02-17-2010, 08:23 PM
Maybe the Spurs should try to sign Z after he's bought out.
Whatever.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 08:24 PM
I think they jacked him up in Detroit by giving him no PT.
Agreed. He also wasn't strong enough mentally or maturity wise. Larry Browns tough love had the opposite effect that he intended.
LB also tried too hard in making him a backdown C. When he's more of a face the basket PF.
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:24 PM
Darko = Splitter
Another post worthy of your name.
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Trade him for Amare.
PFFTTTT
:lmao
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't care anymore. Just blow shit up and see what happens.
Oh quit being all Roger Mason :)
tp2021
02-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Zing!
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 08:29 PM
daldridgetnt
Not finalized, but two sources say Bulls and Bucks may be closing in on deal sending Salmons to MKE for Kurt Thomas, Francisco Elson.
8FOR!3
02-17-2010, 08:35 PM
I'd rather see Salmons go to the Bucks than Utah.
TheChillFactor
02-17-2010, 08:37 PM
i've never seen so much recycled dog shit being bandied about my entire life...would you take this dog turd for those two cat turds and a 2nd round pick???
I. Hustle
02-17-2010, 08:38 PM
Darko = Splitter
you really think so? That would suck
benefactor
02-17-2010, 08:40 PM
Mason to the Bulls in a Thomas deal would make sense if the Bulls dump Salmons for two bigs.
crc21209
02-17-2010, 08:41 PM
Mason to the Bulls in a Thomas deal would make sense if the Bulls dump Salmons for two bigs.
Yup. Bulls win by getting two bigs from the Bucks and outside shooting from Mason, and the Spurs get Tyrus Thomas. Win-win all around...
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 08:47 PM
KBerg_CBS
Marcus Thompson was all over proposed Mayo-Monta swap, which 'Dubs rejected. Grizz are busy ... also offering Mike Conley for expirings #NBA
FeZZy
02-17-2010, 08:47 PM
Cleveland has consummated a three-team deal with the Washington Wizards that will send Antawn Jamison to Cleveland in exchange for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and an unprotected first round draft pick. The third team is the LA Clippershttp://kona.kontera.com/javascript/lib/imgs/grey_loader.gif
(http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20100217#) who will be receiving Drew Gooden .
Yahoo!'s Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that the Cavs will receive Antawn Jamison and Sebastian Telfair. The LA Clippers get Drew Gooden and Washington receives Ilgauskas, Al Thornton and Brian Skinner and a Cavs 1st round pick.
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:48 PM
Conley for Mason, ga ahead :)
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 08:48 PM
STEIN_LINE_HQ
RT @espn_macmahon: Dampier might be out a month; Mavs hope to sign Ilgauskas if he gets buyout from Wizards. http://bit.ly/9LlvV8
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:49 PM
Curious if Washington buys out Illgauskas.
EricB
02-17-2010, 08:54 PM
Mark Stein on Twitter reporting that Erick Dampier is out a month and they will be vying for Illgauskas after he's bought out...
SouthTexasRancher
02-17-2010, 09:04 PM
Drew Gooden the human pinball machine...he just keeps bouncing around all over the place.
L.I.T
02-17-2010, 09:04 PM
I wonder if the Spurs would be interested in Conley to fill in that back up PG spot.
A three way trade with the Spurs sending out their expirings and Ty Thomas and Conley to the Spurs makes some sense. Not sure about talent wise though...
timvp
02-17-2010, 09:05 PM
The Bucks taking Salmons for expirings really hurts the Spurs' chances of landing Ty Thomas. Now the Spurs will have to offer a first round pick to have a chance.
lmbebo
02-17-2010, 09:06 PM
why do you say that? I thought TT was such a malcontent that del negro and the team wanted him out.
Mr. Body
02-17-2010, 09:08 PM
The Bucks taking Salmons for expirings really hurts the Spurs' chances of landing Ty Thomas. Now the Spurs will have to offer a first round pick to have a chance.
The legendary 'CIA Pop' meant, as it so often has, that nothing was going to happen.
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 09:09 PM
I can't remember a more exciting trade deadline. Maybe it's because of tech like twitter giving constant updates of rumors.
NuGGeTs-FaN
02-17-2010, 09:10 PM
If the Nuggets don't get Dyess/Big Ben/TT/Gooden/Z, then i will consider it a failure :lol
One of them, not all of them. Just clarifying :wakeup:lol
I. Hustle
02-17-2010, 09:13 PM
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02-17-2010, 09:29 PM
The Bucks taking Salmons for expirings really hurts the Spurs' chances of landing Ty Thomas. Now the Spurs will have to offer a first round pick to have a chance.
It was known a few days ago that the Spurs (or any team, for that matter) would have to offer a 1st round pick. The Spurs chances were helped by the fact that the Bulls appear to be out of the McGrady sweepstakes. Based on everything I've heard, the Spurs should have the most compatible offer, as far as what the Bulls are rumored to be asking for and what's rumored to be available.
FeZZy
02-17-2010, 09:29 PM
If the Nuggets don't get Dyess/Big Ben/TT/Gooden/Z, then i will consider it a failure :lol
One of them, not all of them. Just clarifying :wakeup:lol
Ill give you dice for carmelo anthony if you want
Pistons < Spurs
02-17-2010, 10:27 PM
WojYahooNBA
No assurance Drew Gooden takes Clips buyout now with several teams -- Bulls, Bucks, Bobcats -- interested in trading for him, source says.
Mr. Body
02-17-2010, 10:28 PM
Wait - who is Drew Gooden playing for now? Good God, has he been moved again?
ElNono
02-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Maybe we should try to get Gooden... oh, wait, we tried that already...
davi78239
02-17-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm slowly starting to get the feeling that we aren't gonna make a move from all the other stuff I've been hearing around the league. Unless CIA Pop/Buford have something up their sleeves already.
ElNono
02-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Yeah, I'm getting a feeling that pieces are moving and falling into place, and we're just not part of anything out there...
DesignatedT
02-17-2010, 10:47 PM
memphis and miami being interested in mason is the only thing out there right now. not sure if we could get anything back if we actually decide to grant his wish.
NuGGeTs-FaN
02-17-2010, 10:49 PM
The Knicks are expected to waive recently acquired Brian Cardinal to make room for the players they expect to receive in the Robinson-to-Boston and McGrady trades, should they go through. Donnie Walsh said afterward he is "hopeful" he will get his deals done tomorrow, but he said he was not getting overly optimistic.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/category/_/name/truehoop-trade-reports
jesterbobman
02-17-2010, 11:03 PM
While I doubt it happens now, An RJ trade could be possible if there's a team who made capspace that misses out on it's main targets, decides not to sign someone just to sign someone, and looks to get someone with an expiring contract so they can have another look at free agents in 2011. If RJ still isn't clicking then, and we can find a fast paced team that would want him, Give him to them with 2nd rounders and cash and try to pry a trade exception. A $15 million TE Would have a lot of value. Problem that a 2 might not do it(It took a 1st to get Memphis to take on Steven Hunter and his 3.7m, but RJ isn't a corpse.
Sean Cagney
02-17-2010, 11:05 PM
Here is our trade, nothing for nothing :( Not even a rumor tonight at all, just f in great.
EricB
02-17-2010, 11:17 PM
:lmao
emo spurs fan never fails to deliver on trade deadline eve...
Cant_Be_Faded
02-17-2010, 11:19 PM
Ehhhh this team is f'ed
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