The Trayvon Martin Case

[Trill Clinton]

why do ya'll keep saying following isn't illegal like we don't know that? its creepy as fuck!!! grown men with guns following kids is cool with ya'll?

[Trill Clinton]

the florida self defense/stand your ground law needs to be changed, period. its flawed and set up so cowards can start fights with complete strangers and in some cases, children and get away with murder if they feel their life is in danger at any time. i can't believe ya'll don't see how fucked up that law is.

[clambake]

they know its fucked up.

[CosmicCowboy]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYCn2inDa2xE9d--_anczf8V60ewmCUB1bxSS6YfyRdpcFHmmY6Q

[TeyshaBlue]

the florida self defense/stand your ground law needs to be changed, period. its flawed and set up so cowards can start fights with complete strangers and in some cases, children and get away with murder if they feel their life is in danger at any time. i can't believe ya'll don't see how fucked up that law is.

troof. It's completely fucked up and very poorly constructed.

[clambake]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYCn2inDa2xE9d--_anczf8V60ewmCUB1bxSS6YfyRdpcFHmmY6Q

how ya doin ray?

[Oh, Gee!!]

the florida self defense/stand your ground law needs to be changed, period. its flawed and set up so cowards can start fights with complete strangers and in some cases, children and get away with murder if they feel their life is in danger at any time. i can't believe ya'll don't see how fucked up that law is.

it is, but GZ used the self-defense argument and did not rely on SYG at all. SYG didn't get him off the hook; plain old self-defense (which is available in all states) did

[DPG21920]

i admitted to not having white friends, i can tell most of you don't have any black friends. if y'all did, y'all would understand why thousands of people are protesting right now.

I have plenty of friends. Many of them happen to be black. More agree with Lupe Fiasco than those burning flags. People's issues are these "protesters" saying they are standing up for the system when they have been absent for forever when other races are victims or when it would mean hurting one of their "own"

[DPG21920]

the florida self defense/stand your ground law needs to be changed, period. its flawed and set up so cowards can start fights with complete strangers and in some cases, children and get away with murder if they feel their life is in danger at any time. i can't believe ya'll don't see how fucked up that law is.

Most do. What everyone is saying is where were you before Trayvon? Why are you bringing up inequality and race when that's not the issue?

[Trill Clinton]

Most do. What everyone is saying is where were you before Trayvon? Why are you bringing up inequality and race when that's not the issue?

people have been saying it for the longest but the media didn't care until they had the right case. sean bell, oscar grant, abner louima, amadou diallo all suffered a similar fat as trayvon and had protests in their honor, rallies and tears were shed but the national media didn't bother covering it. their killers were police officers and watchmen and they were all acquited and only one served a 2 year sentence.

[Trill Clinton]

I have plenty of friends. Many of them happen to be black. More agree with Lupe Fiasco than those burning flags. People's issues are these "protesters" saying they are standing up for the system when they have been absent for forever when other races are victims or when it would mean hurting one of their "own"

sorry, don't agree most of your friends are black, doggie.

[DPG21920]

I didn't say most. Do you get so set in your ways you don't really take the time to stop and read/listen? That would explain a lot about your mindset.

[Trill Clinton]

don't think many of your friends are black, doggie.

[elbamba]

why do ya'll keep saying following isn't illegal like we don't know that? its creepy as fuck!!! grown men with guns following kids is cool with ya'll?

If a grown man was following 12 year old Martin. Yes, that is creepy, but I 20 something year old following a 17 year old because he thinks a crime is about to be committed is not that creepy.

[lebomb]

If a grown man was following 12 year old Martin. Yes, that is creepy, but I 20 something year old following a 17 year old because he thinks a crime is about to be committed is not that creepy.


Just like yall said in the trial.............why the fuck assume???? Its bullshit and you bitches know it. I wish it was yalls fuckin kid.

[CosmicCowboy]

Just like yall said in the trial.............why the fuck assume???? Its bullshit and you bitches know it. I wish it was yalls fuckin kid.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZ7VKPluV6t5IvoXo_d2LPPK04ddY-kNHKd0NRMnrJnJm6emN-

[lebomb]

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You can BBQ, but you are stupid and racist. I tell it like it is.......OJ DID DO IT. But you mufawkus wont admit anything wrong when it comes to teenage blacks and grown assed men that weight 50lbs more murdering them.

[boutons_deux]

very typical that right winger in here are happily gloating over an innocent dead n!gga ballsy-ly trying to stand his ground with his own two fists vs a fat greaser dickless chickenshit gun fellator

[lebomb]

What is messed up? Someone can follow Zimmerman and he would never be murdered, because that fat fuck cannot even fend off a 17yr old kid.

[Sportcamper]

Kim Kardashian tweeted 'no justice' in reference to the George Zimmerman case. Her Dad was OJ Simpson's lawyer.
Joe Deeks

http://blurbrain.com/tweet-of-the-day-joedeeks-shows-kimkardashian-is-a-dumb-hypocrite/

[CosmicCowboy]

You can BBQ, but you are stupid and racist. I tell it like it is.......OJ DID DO IT. But you mufawkus wont admit anything wrong when it comes to teenage blacks and grown assed men that weight 50lbs more murdering them.

Dude, if you jumped me and sucker punched me and were sitting on my chest holding me down going MMA ground and pound on me I would damn sure bust a cap in your ass if I could no matter what color you were. It's not about race.

[lebomb]

Dude, if you sucker punched me and were sitting on my chest holding me down going MMA ground and pound on me I would damn sure bust a cap in your ass no matter what color you were. It's not about race.

First of all Im not gonna follow your dumbass, I dont care WTF you are doing as long as you arent harming me or my family. Second of all, after I call the police, Im done. If they said dont follow, back off. Im smart enough to do that. Now that being said. If I got into it with you anywhere and I started losing the fight. I would not shoot you over it. I would take my asswhoopin like a man.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao @ LeLoser calling me dumb.

[spursncowboys]

LMAO!!!! I see more white kids walking around my neighborhood at 2 by far than guys like Trayvon. They vandalize and act like fuckin fools. Noone follows them around with a loaded gun, so STFU with that bullshit.

1. I said nothing about race.
2. If a neighborhood has no crime, then I guess there would be no assumption of a person being a criminal.
I know nothing of your neighborhood. The neighborhood I grew up in by Madison HS was almost a perfect blend of white/black/mexicans and never heard of one black kid getting looked at but not me or my mexican buddies.

There are tons of variables so there is no real good way to measure. Just assume. Which you are doing alot of. The only real way is to put a white kid walking with a hoodie at 3 am in Zimmerman's neighborhood, that he's never seen.
Unless you are just playing strawmen and generalizing,

[spursncowboys]

why do ya'll keep saying following isn't illegal like we don't know that? its creepy as fuck!!! grown men with guns following kids is cool with ya'll?
Legal does not equal acceptable.
But I see nothing wrong with someone pulling security following someone who is suspicious. And yes IMO kids out at 2 or 3 in the morning is suspicious.

[Trill Clinton]

Legal does not equal acceptable.
But I see nothing wrong with someone pulling security following someone who is suspicious. And yes IMO kids out at 2 or 3 in the morning is suspicious.

yea i agree kids shouldn't be out of the house at that time. trayvon went to get candy and a fruit drank during halftime of the allstar game. following people is creepy as fuck, period.

[lebomb]

:lmao @ LeLoser calling me dumb.

Sorry, if you think murder is justified in this case........ I think you are dumb.

[DPG21920]

don't think many of your friends are black, doggie.

:lol dodging my point & not admitting you were wrong. Sounds a lot like you. You profiled me, read something that wasnt there & no matter what had a pre-conceived notion to the degree you would make something up that wasn't actually said then back peddle. Sounds familiar tbh.

[boobie4three]

Zimmerman juror gets book agent

By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

One of the six anonymous jurors who acquitted George Zimmerman of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin has signed with a literary agent to write a book about the case less than 48 hours after the verdict.
The woman, known only as Juror B37 under court order, will enlist her husband, an attorney who works in the aerospace industry, as her co-author, agent Sharlene Martin said in a statement Monday.
“My hope is that people will read Juror B37’s book … and understand the commitment it takes to serve and be sequestered on a jury in a highly publicized murder trial and how important, despite one’s personal viewpoints, it is to follow the letter of the law,” Martin said.

“It could open a whole new dialogue about laws that may need to be revised and revamped to suit a 21st century way of life,” she added. “The reader will also learn why the jurors had no option but to find Zimmerman not guilty due to the manner in which he was charged and the content of the jury instructions.”
The jurors, who were sequestered during the trial, deliberated about 16 hours before finding Zimmerman not guilty. He said he fired his 9mm pistol in self-defense after Martin, who did not have a gun, attacked him on Feb. 26, 2012 in Sanford, Fla.

The verdict has already sparked several large rallies and marches and there are plans for a 100-city vigil next weekend. The agent said the juror has not decided whether to reveal her identity “given the sensitivity of the verdict and the outpouring of mixed reactions by the American public.”
The woman has lived in the Sanford, Fla., area for 18 years and has two daughters – a 24-year-old pet groomer and a 27-year-old college student. During jury selection, she said she had been called for jury duty four times previously but never selected to sit on a case.
Martin has represented other authors involved in big trials, including the O.J. Simpson, Amanda Knox and Jodi Arias cases.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/15/19488815-zimmerman-juror-gets-book-agent?lite

[Trill Clinton]

:lol dodging my point & not admitting you were wrong. Sounds a lot like you. You profiled me, read something that wasnt there & no matter what had a pre-conceived notion to the degree you would make something up that wasn't actually said then back peddle. Sounds familiar tbh.

i dodged your point on purpose. your mind is made up and i don't have the energy to go deep into why your train of though is wrong.

[DPG21920]

They old "I made a mistake that perfectly illustrates the bigger problem, but point the finger elsewhere" tactic. Effective.

[Jacob1983]

Why didn't Trayvon borrow someone's car or get one of his buddies to go with him to the store? I live in rural Collin County and I'm an evil whitey but I'm not going to walk to a store in public at night. That's just dangerous. Where I live, you are more likely to get hit by a car than get shot. Not worth it if you ask me.

[DPG21920]

There are a lot of things that don't make sense on either side, but that is not the point.

[Creepn]

Fair enough Creepy.

Ooooooh Boooobie. Are you ready to own up to the bet you lost or are you taking the Zimmerman route?

[boobie4three]

Ooooooh Boooobie. Are you ready to own up to the bet you lost or are you taking the Zimmerman route?

WTF? Did you check my last post?

[Fabbs]

Zimmerman juror gets book agent

By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

One of the six anonymous jurors who acquitted George Zimmerman of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin has signed with a literary agent to write a book about the case less than 48 hours after the verdict.
The woman, known only as Juror B37 under court order, will enlist her husband, an attorney who works in the aerospace industry, as her co-author, agent Sharlene Martin said in a statement Monday.
“My hope is that people will read Juror B37’s book … and understand the commitment it takes to serve and be sequestered on a jury in a highly publicized murder trial and how important, despite one’s personal viewpoints, it is to follow the letter of the law,” Martin said.

“It could open a whole new dialogue about laws that may need to be revised and revamped to suit a 21st century way of life,” she added. “The reader will also learn why the jurors had no option but to find Zimmerman not guilty due to the manner in which he was charged and the content of the jury instructions.”
The jurors, who were sequestered during the trial, deliberated about 16 hours before finding Zimmerman not guilty. He said he fired his 9mm pistol in self-defense after Martin, who did not have a gun, attacked him on Feb. 26, 2012 in Sanford, Fla.

The verdict has already sparked several large rallies and marches and there are plans for a 100-city vigil next weekend. The agent said the juror has not decided whether to reveal her identity “given the sensitivity of the verdict and the outpouring of mixed reactions by the American public.”
The woman has lived in the Sanford, Fla., area for 18 years and has two daughters – a 24-year-old pet groomer and a 27-year-old college student. During jury selection, she said she had been called for jury duty four times previously but never selected to sit on a case.
Martin has represented other authors involved in big trials, including the O.J. Simpson, Amanda Knox and Jodi Arias cases.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/15/19488815-zimmerman-juror-gets-book-agent?lite
Sure glad she is not giving her identity away. :lol

[DMX7]

I live in a wealthy area and regularly walk to the local convenience store to grab a late night snack, but I'm gangsta like that.

[Bill_Brasky]

Dude, if you jumped me and sucker punched me and were sitting on my chest holding me down going MMA ground and pound on me I would damn sure bust a cap in your ass if I could no matter what color you were. It's not about race.
Tell me, how much common sense do you have to have to see what you THINK could be a dangerous person and actively follow them around with a gun? That does not sound like responsible behavior to me.

It's not a legal thing. People get that there wasn't enough to convict. But morally, this thing doesn't pass the smell test at all and just feels completely wrong.

[DPG21920]

Tell me, how much common sense do you have to have to see what you THINK could be a dangerous person and actively follow them around with a gun? That does not sound like responsible behavior to me.

It's not a legal thing. People get that there wasn't enough to convict. But morally, this thing doesn't pass the smell test at all and just feels completely wrong.

Agreed, but the other side sort of does too. How many people get followed by a "creep ass craka" and circle back to fight? Or even more, who has a cell phone in a dangerous situation and does not call the cops? Why would you not call the cops there? Is there a reason you didn't want the cops around? Did you not think of it? That does not make any sense either.

[InRareForm]

‏@MichaelSkolnik 3m
About 100-200 young people protesting in South LA. Police in riot gear. Some protesters throwing things at LAPD. Cops shoot bean bags.

[UZER]

Agreed, but the other side sort of does too. How many people get followed by a "creep ass craka" and circle back to fight? Or even more, who has a cell phone in a dangerous situation and does not call the cops? Why would you not call the cops there? Is there a reason you didn't want the cops around? Did you not think of it? That does not make any sense either.

Chris Rock said it himself..."niggas love to keep it real...real dumb"

And Dave Chappell had his skits, "When keepin it real goes wrong"

[Fabbs]

Traybonz Trolls and Trayvton Supporters.

Juror B37, who asked to remain her anonymity, said she did not find the prosecution’s witnesses to be credible and that race did not play a role in the jury’s decision.
However, she also acknowledged her belief that Zimmerman went "above and beyond" in his decision to ignore police direction by confronting Trayvon Martin.
Appearing on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360,” she said neither she nor any of the other jurors discussed race when reviewing the case.
“I don’t think it did. If there was another person, Spanish, white, Asian; if they came in the same situation as Trayvon did, I think George would have reacted the same way,” she said.
“I think all of us thought race did not play a role. We never had that discussion. I think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch and he profiled anyone that was acting strange.”
http://news.yahoo.com/-juror-says-zimmerman-went--above-and-beyond--but-that-race-was-not-an-issue--010659567.html

[Creepn]

WTF? Did you check my last post?

Lmao now I see it my bad. I'll be back with a sig pic. Don't worry, you'll like it. It will suit you.

[Creepn]

http://www.historyonthenet.com/Nazi_Germany/images/naziflag.gif

There you go Boobie. Put that in your sig. Be proud of the views you boast.

[DPG21920]

You're sick

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Anyone catch Jeantel on Piers Morgan? :lmao

[Creepn]

You're sick
Hey he wants to be a little racist troll, he shouldn't have any problems with that.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Creepn trying to out-stupid Rachel Jeantel.

[Creepn]

Creepn trying to out-stupid Rachel Jeantel.

Hey he lost the bet being stupid and ignorant! I give him props putting the money where his mouth is while the others hid like cowards though.

[boutons_deux]

"Comedy" Fucking Central destroys ALL media, and all the fucking racist right-winger gun fellators on ST.


John Oliver highlights blatant racial double standard in Florida’s self-defense laws


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/16/john-oliver-highlights-blatant-racial-double-standard-in-floridas-self-defense-laws-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[AntiChrist]

"Comedy" Fucking Central destroys ALL media, and all the fucking racist right-winger gun fellators on ST.


John Oliver highlights blatant racial double standard in Florida’s self-defense laws


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/16/john-oliver-highlights-blatant-racial-double-standard-in-floridas-self-defense-laws-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




Blame the state attorney

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1504428

[Homeland Security]

Hey he lost the bet being stupid and ignorant! I give him props putting the money where his mouth is while the others hid like cowards though.
Hey Creepn did you tell you children yet they need to say "yessuh massuh" and "nosuh massuh" when they run into strange white men? Be a shame if they ended up like Trayvon.

[Homeland Security]

Blame the state attorney

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1504428
So a woman gets into an altercation with a man because he doubts the paternity of her baby, she tells him "I got somtin' fo' yo' ass," goes into the garage to retrieve a gun from her car, takes it out and shoots at him. Yeah, that's exactly the same as the George Zimmerman case. Exactly the same.

N!ggers just need to fuck off.

[boutons_deux]

“She was angry” when she fired the shot, State Attorney Angela B. Corey told HuffPost. “She was not in fear.”

Since when does the FL SYG law let the (white) State Attorney override the SYG (black) shooter's perceived fear of bodily harm or death?

[Homeland Security]

One thing I've learned unequivocally in my 40-something years of life is that when you take these "controversial" race cases and apply the facts, 99% of the time black people are wrong. Their cries of "racial injustice" are bullshit. The best I can do to give them the benefit of the doubt is that the rules of civil society simply fall beyond their comprehension and they can't evaluate the world around them outside of the prism of tribe. Whatever. I went through my phase of trying to be sensitive and understanding and getting to the bottom of systemic racial disparities. I've come to the conclusion that the racist worldview matches reality when it comees to blacks. Fuck 'em.

[boutons_deux]

“She was angry” when she fired the shot, State Attorney Angela B. Corey told HuffPost. “She was not in fear.”

Since when does the FL SYG law let the (white) State Attorney override the SYG (black) shooter's perceived fear of bodily harm or death?


and of course, just another example of over-the-top extremist prosecutorial zeal: "it's 20 years in prison if tried and convicted, or 3 years in prison (and life of unemployable violent ex-con) if you plead guilty (and we don't give a shit about your kids)" .

[Creepn]

Hey Creepn did you tell you children yet they need to say "yessuh massuh" and "nosuh massuh" when they run into strange white men? Be a shame if they ended up like Trayvon.

You are the one admittedly so pussified against black America that you would you even feel safer when a 6 year old black girl dies so maybe you are the one that should be addressing us as so.

[Creepn]

One thing I've learned unequivocally in my 40-something years of life is that when you take these "controversial" race cases and apply the facts, 99% of the time black people are wrong. Their cries of "racial injustice" are bullshit. The best I can do to give them the benefit of the doubt is that the rules of civil society simply fall beyond their comprehension and they can't evaluate the world around them outside of the prism of tribe. Whatever. I went through my phase of trying to be sensitive and understanding and getting to the bottom of systemic racial disparities. I've come to the conclusion that the racist worldview matches reality when it comees to blacks. Fuck 'em.

blah blah blah blah blah blah. lol. Just keep looking down at the ground when you pass us pussy.

[angrydude]

blah blah blah blah blah blah. lol. Just keep looking down at the ground when you pass us pussy.

But take us seriously!

[Trill Clinton]

http://www.historyonthenet.com/Nazi_Germany/images/naziflag.gif

There you go Boobie. Put that in your sig. Be proud of the views you boast.



:lmao

[AntiChrist]

“She was angry” when she fired the shot, State Attorney Angela B. Corey told HuffPost. “She was not in fear.”

Since when does the FL SYG law let the (white) State Attorney override the SYG (black) shooter's perceived fear of bodily harm or death?


and of course, just another example of over-the-top extremist prosecutorial zeal: "it's 20 years in prison if tried and convicted, or 3 years in prison (and life of unemployable violent ex-con) if you plead guilty (and we don't give a shit about your kids)" .



You didn't seem to mind when they went over-the-top and overreached on GZ.

[AntiChrist]

Honestly, people have lost their damn minds over this case.

[elbamba]

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf

After reading this again, I think the prosecutor should be disbarred. This document shows that their probable cause was based entirely on speculation and filed for nothing more than political reasons. The prosecution ended up having no facts to support their case.

[boutons_deux]

You didn't seem to mind when they went over-the-top and overreached on GZ.

because there was no overreach on GZ. He achieved exactly what the racist NRA/ALEX SYG laws are meant to achieve, kill the niggas.

[angrydude]

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf

After reading this again, I think the prosecutor should be disbarred. This document shows that their probable cause was based entirely on speculation and filed for nothing more than political reasons. The prosecution ended up having no facts to support their case.

Not handing over evidence to the defense is what is ultimately going to get them imo. The bar association doesn't give a shit. In something this high profile, they have to make an example to keep the rest of the lawyers in line.

[boutons_deux]

"no facts to support their case."

almost no facts, nor evidence, nor witnesses, just a dead kid and greasebag, chickenshit, lying shooter.

[AntiChrist]

Honestly, people have lost their damn minds over this case.



"no facts to support their case."

almost no facts, nor evidence, nor witnesses, just a dead kid and greasebag, chickenshit, lying shooter.

[CosmicCowboy]

Boutons lost it long before this case came along.

[boobie4three]

:lmao

Wow. I thought we were bros

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Boutons lost it long before this case came along.

Yes but this meltdown has been a good one. I understand being upset about the case, but at least he could get his facts straight.

[Creepn]

Wow. I thought we were bros

I still don't see your new sig pic.

Just apologize and you don't have to use the sig pic.

[boutons_deux]

http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/vigilante_500_372.jpg

[Chomag]

Boutons lost it long before this case came along.

Got to have it first to lose it TBH.

[boobie4three]

I still don't see your new sig pic.

Just apologize and you don't have to use the sig pic.


Apologize for what?

[Creepn]

Apologize for what?

If you don't know what to apologize for, then put up the sig.

[boobie4three]

If you don't know what to apologize for, then put up the sig.

Put the lean down before you OD.

[Creepn]

Put the lean down before you OD.

Exactly why I gave you that sig.

[boobie4three]

Exactly why I gave you that sig.

You're slipping badly Creep.

[spursncowboys]

One thing I've learned unequivocally in my 40-something years of life is that when you take these "controversial" race cases and apply the facts, 99% of the time black people are wrong. Their cries of "racial injustice" are bullshit. The best I can do to give them the benefit of the doubt is that the rules of civil society simply fall beyond their comprehension and they can't evaluate the world around them outside of the prism of tribe. Whatever. I went through my phase of trying to be sensitive and understanding and getting to the bottom of systemic racial disparities. I've come to the conclusion that the racist worldview matches reality when it comees to blacks. Fuck 'em.
You're an idiot

[Creepn]

You're slipping badly Creep.

So you lost a bet because you made idiotic assumptions about black people but yet you continue to do the same about the "lean drank" towards me. Guess some people never learn.

[boobie4three]

So you lost a bet because you made idiotic assumptions about black people but yet you continue to do the same about the "lean drank" towards me. Guess some people never learn.

You may not even be black for all I know. You could be lily white. Heck, you might even be an Albino(think Edger Winter). Has any honest(non-liberal) person out there actually met Creepn?

[Creepn]

You may not even be black for all I know. You could be lily white. Heck, you might even be an Albino(think Edger Winter). Has any honest(non-liberal) person out there actually met Creepn?

There was one guy from Spurstalk who could've met me when I asked him to meet me at a specific place for a friendly game of fisticuffs but he declined the offer. :(

[boobie4three]

:lol

[DPG21920]

There was one guy from Spurstalk who could've met me when I asked him to meet me at a specific place for a friendly game of fisticuffs but he declined the offer. :(

So you wanted to meet to commit assault?

[Creepn]

So you wanted to meet to commit assault?

Nah, I would've gave him a "head start" if you will. I had witnesses since they wanted to see an online racist troll in person and I would've posted a video of his ass whuppin on Spurstalk too.

But all n all, I agree it was stupid of me. Won't happen again.

[DPG21920]

You're better than that

[Creepn]

You're better than that

I agree. It was stupid.

[Venti Quattro]

Idg people on social media. If they are portraying Trayvon to be the straight-edge, goody two shoes student that they say he is, then why did he get suspended for disciplinary conduct?

[Homeland Security]

Idg people on social media. If they are portraying Trayvon to be the straight-edge, goody two shoes student that they say he is, then why did he get suspended for disciplinary conduct?
His character isn't actually relevant to the case. And for a black kid, his record of only being caught with stolen jewelry from a burglary once, and only once being suspended from school for drugs and drug paraphernalia, absolutely makes him a straight-edge goody-two-shoes.

[Wild Cobra]

Honestly, people have lost their damn minds over this case.

What's bad, is these same people have the right to vote!

[spursncowboys]

Nah, I would've gave him a "head start" if you will. I had witnesses since they wanted to see an online racist troll in person and I would've posted a video of his ass whuppin on Spurstalk too.

But all n all, I agree it was stupid of me. Won't happen again.

Who?

[hehateme]

What's bad, is these same people have the right to vote!

So do illegal immigrants and dead people...

[scroteface]

So do illegal immigrants and dead people...
:lmao

[boobie4three]

'You Are Embarrassing Yourself!' Hannity Guest Berates Juan Williams Over Zimmerman Case


Great video of civil rights attorney Leo Terrell ripping Juan Williams a new one about the jury's verdict. Fireworks start at the 2:30 mark.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/16/hannity-guest-leo-terrell-berates-juan-williams-over-zimmerman-case

[boutons_deux]

booby4zero watches Fox shit :lol

Fox of course is all for the more dead niggas, the better, esp when murdered by a fat gun fellator wanna-be macho (who is really, court testimony, a dickless, lying klutz).

[boobie4three]

booby4zero watches Fox shit :lol

Fox of course is all for the more dead niggas, the better, esp when murdered by a fat gun fellator wanna-be macho (who is really, court testimony, a dickless, lying klutz).

You've got major issues dude(or dudess, whatever the case may be).

[Trill Clinton]

boobie, where is the sig creepn gave you? please don't tell me you're gonna welsh.

[boobie4three]

You and and Creep can rip that Nazi flag in half and then shove it up each others ass. Now shut yo mouf and watch that video I posted. You'll be a better man for doing so.

[Trill Clinton]

so you're going to welsh?

[boobie4three]

so you're going to welsh?
In a nutshell, yeah.

[boutons_deux]

You've got major issues dude(or dudess, whatever the case may be).

boobie competing with TB :lol for content-free posts. have at it, girlz

[leemajors]

In a nutshell, yeah.

chickenshit.

[boobie4three]

chickenshit.
Maybe. Sue me.

[resistanze]

Maybe. Sue me.

Faggot welsher.

[boobie4three]

Faggot welsher.

Everyone crawling out from underneath their rocks to get their kicks in. Kick away. I can take it.

[leemajors]

Everyone crawling out from underneath their rocks to get their kicks in. Kick away. I can take it.

No, people just don't like welshers.

[clambake]

at least sew the sig to your skirt.

[boobie4three]

No, people just don't like welshers.

Seriously, who new Creepn would be an asshole and ask me to post a Nazi flag in my sig when I lost the bet?. A civilized person would maybe of asked me to post a cartoon of a Spurs player pissing on a Cavaliers player instead.

[Heath Ledger]

pfffftttt.... it's over dude is innocent of the charges the state brought against him period. they asked for justice and justice has been served.

[boutons_deux]

"justice has been served."

Like GZ, You Lie

lawyering and lying has been served, not justice.

[leemajors]

Seriously, who new Creepn would be an asshole and ask me to post a Nazi flag in my sig when I lost the bet?. A civilized person would maybe of asked me to post a cartoon of a Spurs player pissing on a Cavaliers player instead.

Maybe you should have specified what is allowed in the bet? A civilized person would sack up and honor the bet. Anyone familiar with this board would expect the worst when the bet was placed.

[boutons_deux]

Mark Twain once wrote, "The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible." That insightful comment would certainly apply to the recent George Zimmerman trial.

There are a number of television shows that have used the "ripped from today's headlines" concept, but if this trial's story points were to be adapted into a piece of fiction, it would cause certain problems in credibility in the writers' room. A discussion between a head writer and the episodic writer who had the idea for a show based on the Zimmerman case might play out something like this....

[SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE]

CUT TO:

INT. WRITERS' ROOM - DAY

HEAD WRITER: I looked over the script. The story is a little too nuts for me. I don't buy it.

WRITER: It's based on a real case. This is what went down back then.
The Head Writer looks over his notes.

HEAD WRITER: A man stalks a young kid. Is warned by a 911 operator not to follow the kid. He goes ahead and follows him anyway. The kid is on a cellphone and says (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/justice/zimmerman-trial) to his friend that he's being followed by some stranger. The friend hears the kid say, "Get off, get off!" A struggle happens, and the kid is killed. And you write this like it's a self defense case??

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: But the man was pursuing the kid. How could it be a self defense case? You gotta create doubt. An audience watching this is not going to believe it. We're going to lose our viewers before the commercial break!

WRITER: Don't you see? The guy was struggling for his life. The kid pushed him to the ground. He had to pull out a gun and shoot the kid.

HEAD WRITER: But you have the guy attending Mixed Martial Arts classes. Three times a week (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/08/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial/2498167/) he goes to his gym. Two hours a session. For an entire year. And the kid gets him on the ground just like that?

WRITER: Our guy was a bad student.

HEAD WRITER: Bad student? How bad can he be?

WRITER: They say he was not very athletic.

HEAD WRITER: Six hours a week of martial arts training for one year and he can't even push a kid away? And the kid weighs almost 50 pounds less (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-mma-trainer-mounts-defense-attorney-in-court-calls-george-zimmerman-soft/) than this guy? Impossible. You have to change that. No one will believe it.

WRITER: Okay, I'll cut that out of the script.

HEAD WRITER: And then in a flashback scene, you have the guy, working as a bouncer, getting fired (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223) for being too aggressive with the patrons.

WRITER: All right, I'll cut that out too.

HEAD WRITER: And on page 38, after the 911 operator tells the guy to stop following the kid, the guy says (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/6-decisions-trayvon_n_3600690.html) to the operator, "Shit, he's running."

WRITER: Right.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. He's running? Running from what? He didn't do anything, so the only thing the kid would be running from would be the guy?

WRITER: Hmm. Maybe that's not clear.
The Head Writer thumbs forward a few pages.

HEAD WRITER: Then somehow, out of the blue, the kid has the man on the ground, a struggle ensues, and the man pulls out a gun and shoots him in the heart?

WRITER: The guy had no choice. It's self-defense.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. The guy on the ground is yelling, "Help, help." And then the guy on the ground screams (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-trial-911-recording-20130708,0,2658758.story)? And right after he screams he shoots the kid.

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: You ever see a scene in a movie where a person screams and then shoots someone? It's normally the other person who screams and then gets shot. This is just too illogical.

WRITER: Okay, I'll finesse that.

HEAD WRITER: Why doesn't the guy just shoot the kid in the arm? Or the leg? Or the stomach?

WRITER: It was a struggle.

HEAD WRITER: Yeah, but when I read the script it's not credible. It's more like a shoot to kill.

WRITER: No, it's a self-defense scene.

HEAD WRITER: I don't buy it. It's much easier just to shoot the kid in the arm or the leg. It would take more effort to raise the gun up. The guy aims for the heart. Therefore he knows he's going to kill him. It's too illogical. Change it.

WRITER: But this is what happened.

HEAD WRITER: It doesn't have the credibility to be a dramatic episode. Unless we want to chase the ghost of Paddy Chayefsky and get into absurdism. You know, like he did with Network. Unless you want to make a satire on how screwed up the legal system is, show me a script that makes sense.

So you can see the dilemma of trying to write a script based on this tragic event. The logic evades us. And the reality haunts us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-levinson/george-zimmerman-vs-ficti_1_b_3610822.html?utm_hp_ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=071713&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BlogEntry

[TeyshaBlue]

boobie competing with TB :lol for content-free posts. have at it, girlz

You think about me alot. Weird.

[TeyshaBlue]

booby4zero watches Fox shit :lol

Fox of course is all for the more dead niggas, the better, esp when murdered by a fat gun fellator wanna-be macho (who is really, court testimony, a dickless, lying klutz).

lol thinkprogress

[TeyshaBlue]

Maybe you should have specified what is allowed in the bet? A civilized person would sack up and honor the bet. Anyone familiar with this board would expect the worst when the bet was placed.


:lol:lol +1

[AntiChrist]

Mark Twain once wrote, "The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible." That insightful comment would certainly apply to the recent George Zimmerman trial.

There are a number of television shows that have used the "ripped from today's headlines" concept, but if this trial's story points were to be adapted into a piece of fiction, it would cause certain problems in credibility in the writers' room. A discussion between a head writer and the episodic writer who had the idea for a show based on the Zimmerman case might play out something like this....

[SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE]

CUT TO:

INT. WRITERS' ROOM - DAY

HEAD WRITER: I looked over the script. The story is a little too nuts for me. I don't buy it.

WRITER: It's based on a real case. This is what went down back then.
The Head Writer looks over his notes.

HEAD WRITER: A man stalks a young kid. Is warned by a 911 operator not to follow the kid. He goes ahead and follows him anyway. The kid is on a cellphone and says (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/justice/zimmerman-trial) to his friend that he's being followed by some stranger. The friend hears the kid say, "Get off, get off!" A struggle happens, and the kid is killed. And you write this like it's a self defense case??

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: But the man was pursuing the kid. How could it be a self defense case? You gotta create doubt. An audience watching this is not going to believe it. We're going to lose our viewers before the commercial break!

WRITER: Don't you see? The guy was struggling for his life. The kid pushed him to the ground. He had to pull out a gun and shoot the kid.

HEAD WRITER: But you have the guy attending Mixed Martial Arts classes. Three times a week (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/08/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial/2498167/) he goes to his gym. Two hours a session. For an entire year. And the kid gets him on the ground just like that?

WRITER: Our guy was a bad student.

HEAD WRITER: Bad student? How bad can he be?

WRITER: They say he was not very athletic.

HEAD WRITER: Six hours a week of martial arts training for one year and he can't even push a kid away? And the kid weighs almost 50 pounds less (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-mma-trainer-mounts-defense-attorney-in-court-calls-george-zimmerman-soft/) than this guy? Impossible. You have to change that. No one will believe it.

WRITER: Okay, I'll cut that out of the script.

HEAD WRITER: And then in a flashback scene, you have the guy, working as a bouncer, getting fired (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223) for being too aggressive with the patrons.

WRITER: All right, I'll cut that out too.

HEAD WRITER: And on page 38, after the 911 operator tells the guy to stop following the kid, the guy says (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/6-decisions-trayvon_n_3600690.html) to the operator, "Shit, he's running."

WRITER: Right.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. He's running? Running from what? He didn't do anything, so the only thing the kid would be running from would be the guy?

WRITER: Hmm. Maybe that's not clear.
The Head Writer thumbs forward a few pages.

HEAD WRITER: Then somehow, out of the blue, the kid has the man on the ground, a struggle ensues, and the man pulls out a gun and shoots him in the heart?

WRITER: The guy had no choice. It's self-defense.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. The guy on the ground is yelling, "Help, help." And then the guy on the ground screams (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-trial-911-recording-20130708,0,2658758.story)? And right after he screams he shoots the kid.

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: You ever see a scene in a movie where a person screams and then shoots someone? It's normally the other person who screams and then gets shot. This is just too illogical.

WRITER: Okay, I'll finesse that.

HEAD WRITER: Why doesn't the guy just shoot the kid in the arm? Or the leg? Or the stomach?

WRITER: It was a struggle.

HEAD WRITER: Yeah, but when I read the script it's not credible. It's more like a shoot to kill.

WRITER: No, it's a self-defense scene.

HEAD WRITER: I don't buy it. It's much easier just to shoot the kid in the arm or the leg. It would take more effort to raise the gun up. The guy aims for the heart. Therefore he knows he's going to kill him. It's too illogical. Change it.

WRITER: But this is what happened.

HEAD WRITER: It doesn't have the credibility to be a dramatic episode. Unless we want to chase the ghost of Paddy Chayefsky and get into absurdism. You know, like he did with Network. Unless you want to make a satire on how screwed up the legal system is, show me a script that makes sense.

So you can see the dilemma of trying to write a script based on this tragic event. The logic evades us. And the reality haunts us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-levinson/george-zimmerman-vs-ficti_1_b_3610822.html?utm_hp_ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=071713&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BlogEntry





I read this on HuffPo today. Upon second reading, it's even dumber.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Mark Twain once wrote, "The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible." That insightful comment would certainly apply to the recent George Zimmerman trial.

There are a number of television shows that have used the "ripped from today's headlines" concept, but if this trial's story points were to be adapted into a piece of fiction, it would cause certain problems in credibility in the writers' room. A discussion between a head writer and the episodic writer who had the idea for a show based on the Zimmerman case might play out something like this....

[SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE]

CUT TO:

INT. WRITERS' ROOM - DAY

HEAD WRITER: I looked over the script. The story is a little too nuts for me. I don't buy it.

WRITER: It's based on a real case. This is what went down back then.
The Head Writer looks over his notes.

HEAD WRITER: A man stalks a young kid. Is warned by a 911 operator not to follow the kid. He goes ahead and follows him anyway. The kid is on a cellphone and says (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/justice/zimmerman-trial) to his friend that he's being followed by some stranger. The friend hears the kid say, "Get off, get off!" A struggle happens, and the kid is killed. And you write this like it's a self defense case??

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: But the man was pursuing the kid. How could it be a self defense case? You gotta create doubt. An audience watching this is not going to believe it. We're going to lose our viewers before the commercial break!

WRITER: Don't you see? The guy was struggling for his life. The kid pushed him to the ground. He had to pull out a gun and shoot the kid.

HEAD WRITER: But you have the guy attending Mixed Martial Arts classes. Three times a week (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/08/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial/2498167/) he goes to his gym. Two hours a session. For an entire year. And the kid gets him on the ground just like that?

WRITER: Our guy was a bad student.

HEAD WRITER: Bad student? How bad can he be?

WRITER: They say he was not very athletic.

HEAD WRITER: Six hours a week of martial arts training for one year and he can't even push a kid away? And the kid weighs almost 50 pounds less (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-mma-trainer-mounts-defense-attorney-in-court-calls-george-zimmerman-soft/) than this guy? Impossible. You have to change that. No one will believe it.

WRITER: Okay, I'll cut that out of the script.

HEAD WRITER: And then in a flashback scene, you have the guy, working as a bouncer, getting fired (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223) for being too aggressive with the patrons.

WRITER: All right, I'll cut that out too.

HEAD WRITER: And on page 38, after the 911 operator tells the guy to stop following the kid, the guy says (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/6-decisions-trayvon_n_3600690.html) to the operator, "Shit, he's running."

WRITER: Right.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. He's running? Running from what? He didn't do anything, so the only thing the kid would be running from would be the guy?

WRITER: Hmm. Maybe that's not clear.
The Head Writer thumbs forward a few pages.

HEAD WRITER: Then somehow, out of the blue, the kid has the man on the ground, a struggle ensues, and the man pulls out a gun and shoots him in the heart?

WRITER: The guy had no choice. It's self-defense.

HEAD WRITER: I don't understand. The guy on the ground is yelling, "Help, help." And then the guy on the ground screams (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-trial-911-recording-20130708,0,2658758.story)? And right after he screams he shoots the kid.

WRITER: Exactly.

HEAD WRITER: You ever see a scene in a movie where a person screams and then shoots someone? It's normally the other person who screams and then gets shot. This is just too illogical.

WRITER: Okay, I'll finesse that.

HEAD WRITER: Why doesn't the guy just shoot the kid in the arm? Or the leg? Or the stomach?

WRITER: It was a struggle.

HEAD WRITER: Yeah, but when I read the script it's not credible. It's more like a shoot to kill.

WRITER: No, it's a self-defense scene.

HEAD WRITER: I don't buy it. It's much easier just to shoot the kid in the arm or the leg. It would take more effort to raise the gun up. The guy aims for the heart. Therefore he knows he's going to kill him. It's too illogical. Change it.

WRITER: But this is what happened.

HEAD WRITER: It doesn't have the credibility to be a dramatic episode. Unless we want to chase the ghost of Paddy Chayefsky and get into absurdism. You know, like he did with Network. Unless you want to make a satire on how screwed up the legal system is, show me a script that makes sense.

So you can see the dilemma of trying to write a script based on this tragic event. The logic evades us. And the reality haunts us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-levinson/george-zimmerman-vs-ficti_1_b_3610822.html?utm_hp_ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=071713&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BlogEntry



As long as Rachel Jeantel gets to play herself that movie would be a hit!

[boutons_deux]

As long as Rachel Jeantel gets to play herself that movie would be a hit!

bully racists LOVE trashing, ridiculing the innocent, unprivileged, foreigner Rachel Jeantel because she dared testify against racist murderer GZ.

[CosmicCowboy]

bully racists LOVE trashing, ridiculing the innocent, unprivileged, foreigner Rachel Jeantel because she dared testify against racist murderer GZ.

:lmao

I laugh at her because she is a stupid, fat, ugly, ignorant bitch and her story changes daily. NOW after the trial she is saying that she told Martin that the security guard (her new definition of cracker) could be a gay pedophile that wanted to fuck Martin.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

bully racists LOVE trashing, ridiculing the innocent, unprivileged, foreigner Rachel Jeantel because she dared testify against racist murderer GZ.

You calling me racist? I dare you to find a single post of mine showing such. You on the other hand have no problem using the word nigga and throw it around daily.

Rachel Jeantel, whether black/white/brown is hilarious. She's a real life marble mouthed Jabba the Hut who is dumb as rocks.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

:lmao

I laugh at her because she is a stupid, fat, ugly, ignorant bitch and her story changes daily. NOW after the trial she is saying that she told Martin that the security guard (her new definition of cracker) could be a gay pedophile that wanted to fuck Martin.

Probably will hurt any civil suit against Zimmerman as that could make Trayvon look like he attacked due to homophobia.

[Fabbs]

Probably will hurt any civil suit against Zimmerman as that could make Trayvon look like he attacked due to homophobia.
Omara has already said as much as 'bring it on' if the Trayvons try a civil suit.
I didn't take the tone as false lawyer bravado. He meant it imo.

[DPG21920]

bully racists LOVE trashing, ridiculing the innocent, unprivileged, foreigner Rachel Jeantel because she dared testify against racist murderer GZ.

Then why was creepn incredibly annoyed by her?

[boutons_deux]

http://otherwords.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zimmerman-smoking-gun-trayvon-verdict-cartoon-444x307.jpg

[boutons_deux]

yet another THOUGHT LEADER and Hero to Repugs, bubbas, gun fellators, tea baggers in full racist rant

Nugent’s new racist rant: ‘The blacks’ are to blame for their own oppressionhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cbs_tm_nugent_120504i-615x345.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/17/nugents-new-racist-rant-the-blacks-are-to-blame-for-their-own-oppression/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[leemajors]

I don't believe the Nuge speaks for most repubs, he is a total nutjob

[boutons_deux]

I don't believe the Nuge speaks for most repubs, he is a total nutjob

He's on the board of the NRA, he's a hero to gun fellators

Seems like there's a whole bunch right wing extremists, nutjobs, assholes, jerks, outright freaks that DO represent and speak to Ms of Repugs

[boutons_deux]

Rough Guide to Life in the United States of Zimmerman, the US of Z

In the US of Z the law allows people to hunt each other.

In the US of Z you can be a self-appointed volunteer vigilante, and you have permission to decide a person is up to no good based solely on the color of his skin, and maybe the time of day and your own bigotry.

In the US of Z you may racial profile to your heart's content and the judge won't let it be used against you in court.

In the US of Z, you don't have to feel remorse if you kill someone, even if that person did nothing wrong, even if you went out of your way to get to kill him. You can just believe it was God's plan.

In the US of Z, there is confusion about whether Trayvon Martin is another Medgar Evers or Emmett Till. He might have grown up to be a Medgar Evers. He died an Emmett Till.

In the US of Z, the acquittal of someone who stalked and killed a young black man comes as no surprise. But it's still surprising that Zimmerman's defense attorney asserted, in all apparent seriousness, that in the same circumstances, Zimmerman would not even have been charged if he was black.

In the US of Z, it is no surprise for a black man to go uncharged when he does not survive his arrest. That's not what the defense attorney meant, because in the US of Z, it's the killer Zimmerman who is somehow the victim.

In this US of Z, there are white people who believe that black people don't care about dead black boys except when whites kill them.

Is It Ever Fair to Arrest a Judge's Son?

In this US of Z, people still think it's unfair that Zimmerman was even arrested 44 days after the killing. They don't believe that George Zimmerman's father, Robert Zimmerman, a retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate, reportedly talked the police out of arresting George the night he killed Trayvon.

In the US of Z, the Zimmerman verdict no doubt gives some hope to Michael David Dunn, 45, a Florida white man who killed an unarmed black teenager in the back seat of a car for having the music too loud, shooting him at least eight times. Dunn has pleaded not guilty, saying he felt threatened and acted in self defense, and besides the law gives him the right to stand his ground.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/united-states-zimmerman

[Creepn]

Then why was creepn incredibly annoyed by her?
Because I knew the jurors weren't going to connect with the only witness that was there at the moment of the confrontation.

[CosmicCowboy]

Because I knew the jurors weren't going to connect with the only witness that was there at the moment of the confrontation.

Maybe they did. She seemed to confirm that Martin initiated the verbal confrontation.

[Trill Clinton]

Nugent is ignorant and its no surprise his take on African amerikkkans is damn near identical to some views in this thread. Its almost like the dunb redneck was typing behind some of these screen names. He lives in a bubble and has zero contact with anyone outside of his race on a personal level and he thinks he has all the answers. Ignorance and entitlement are horrible qualities to have.


Anyways, isn't he an illegal hunter?

[TeyshaBlue]

He's on the board of the NRA, he's a hero to gun fellators

Seems like there's a whole bunch right wing extremists, nutjobs, assholes, jerks, outright freaks that DO represent and speak to Ms of Repugs

Here's hoping you don't speak for the Left.:lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

Nugent is ignorant and its no surprise his take on African amerikkkans is damn near identical to some views in this thread. Its almost like the dunb redneck was typing behind some of these screen names. He lives in a bubble and has zero contact with anyone outside of his race on a personal level and he thinks he has all the answers. Ignorance and entitlement are horrible qualities to have.


Anyways, isn't he an illegal hunter?

Dude is damaged. Too much booze. He's always been a little damaged tho.

[Trill Clinton]

Dude is damaged. Too much booze. He's always been a little damaged tho.

I got the crazy vibe when I saw him on an episode of mtv cribs. He looked coked up the entire time.

[Trill Clinton]

Boobie, honor your bet. Creepn is a cool dude and doesn't deserve to be welshed on. Did you know the swastika was once a tantric symbol of peacefulness and goodness? It wasn't until the nazis decided to adopt it that it got its negative connotations.

[TeyshaBlue]

I got the crazy vibe when I saw him on an episode of mtv cribs. He looked coked up the entire time.

There's a reason he's called the Motor City Madman.:lol

[boobie4three]

Boobie, honor your bet. Creepn is a cool dude and doesn't deserve to be welshed on. Did you know the swastika was once a tantric symbol of peacefulness and goodness? It wasn't until the nazis decided to adopt it that it got its negative connotations.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/images1ioiynuio_zps1781e315.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/images1ioiynuio_zps1781e315.jpg.html)

[da_suns_fan]

If you are punching someone and theyre screaming for help, get off.

We all heard the tapes.

[boobie4three]

NUGENT: Zimmerman should sue Trayvon’s parents

by Ted Nugent
Posted: July 17, 2013 10:59 am

The narrative being spun by any number of media pundits, race-baiters and various excuse-makers is that Mr. Zimmerman shot down an unarmed minor. Although he was found not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter, let’s follow the narrative of those who believe Mr. Zimmerman killed a minor. And they are right, he did. Trayvon Martin was a minor at the time of this death. The basis for Zimmerman’s lawsuit should be that minor Trayvon Martin viciously attacked him causing great bodily harm and threatening his life, which resulted in Mr. Zimmerman defending himself and shooting Martin.

Trayvon Martin’s vicious attack on George Zimmerman and Martin’s tragic death have no doubt surely dragged Mr. Zimmerman through 18 months of untold emotional hell, pain, distress, anguish, fatigue, nightmares and financial ruin. Again, following the narrative of the pro-Trayvon media types and other race-baiters, if Trayvon Martin was a minor, then Trayvon Martin’s parents may be held liable for the emotional pain and suffering Mr. Zimmerman has been put through for the past 18 months, and surely for the rest of his life.

Parents can be held responsible for the actions of their minor-age children until the children reach the age of majority (meaning adulthood), which is exactly why Mr. Zimmerman should explore filing a lawsuit against Martin’s parents. The age of majority in Florida is 18-years-old. Trayon Martin was 17-years-old when he attacked Mr. Zimmerman, which potentially means that Trayvon’s parents may possibly be held responsible for the stress, emotional pain and anguish their son caused George Zimmerman.

http://rare.us/story/nugent-zimmerman-should-sue-trayvons-parents/

[CosmicCowboy]

Actually that is an interesting legal theory. Might be a reasonable countersuit if the Martin's sue.

[boobie4three]

Actually that is an interesting legal theory. Might be a reasonable countersuit if the Martin's sue.

I can see all the heads exploding around here if that happens.

[Trill Clinton]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/images1ioiynuio_zps1781e315.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/images1ioiynuio_zps1781e315.jpg.html)

lolsmh

[CosmicCowboy]

I can see all the heads exploding around here if that happens.

Zimmerman will be immune from a civil suit anyway.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

NUGENT: Zimmerman should sue Trayvon’s parents

by Ted Nugent
Posted: July 17, 2013 10:59 am

The narrative being spun by any number of media pundits, race-baiters and various excuse-makers is that Mr. Zimmerman shot down an unarmed minor. Although he was found not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter, let’s follow the narrative of those who believe Mr. Zimmerman killed a minor. And they are right, he did. Trayvon Martin was a minor at the time of this death. The basis for Zimmerman’s lawsuit should be that minor Trayvon Martin viciously attacked him causing great bodily harm and threatening his life, which resulted in Mr. Zimmerman defending himself and shooting Martin.

Trayvon Martin’s vicious attack on George Zimmerman and Martin’s tragic death have no doubt surely dragged Mr. Zimmerman through 18 months of untold emotional hell, pain, distress, anguish, fatigue, nightmares and financial ruin. Again, following the narrative of the pro-Trayvon media types and other race-baiters, if Trayvon Martin was a minor, then Trayvon Martin’s parents may be held liable for the emotional pain and suffering Mr. Zimmerman has been put through for the past 18 months, and surely for the rest of his life.

Parents can be held responsible for the actions of their minor-age children until the children reach the age of majority (meaning adulthood), which is exactly why Mr. Zimmerman should explore filing a lawsuit against Martin’s parents. The age of majority in Florida is 18-years-old. Trayon Martin was 17-years-old when he attacked Mr. Zimmerman, which potentially means that Trayvon’s parents may possibly be held responsible for the stress, emotional pain and anguish their son caused George Zimmerman.

http://rare.us/story/nugent-zimmerman-should-sue-trayvons-parents/

That'd be fucked and I'm sure Zimmerman just wants to be left alone now, no way he would persue this. He'll get enough money in lawsuits against the media.

[Jacob1983]

He'll get enough money for interviews. Just think of how hungry the evil liberal media is going to be for the first interview with him since the verdict.

[boutons_deux]

Key Mistakes Sway Jury in Zimmerman Trial

Jury prevented from considering race

Jury prevented from considering first aggressor

Officer permitted to make credibility judgment

http://truth-out.org/news/item/17620-zimmerman-vs-martin-racial-profiling-and-self-defense

[Wild Cobra]

Key Mistakes Sway Jury in Zimmerman Trial

Jury prevented from considering race

Jury prevented from considering first aggressor

Officer permitted to make credibility judgment

http://truth-out.org/news/item/17620-zimmerman-vs-martin-racial-profiling-and-self-defense




Are you don pouting yet?

[boutons_deux]

Are you don pouting yet?

Are you done rejoicing and gloating, yet?

[boutons_deux]

As former Florida State Senator Dan Gelber has pointed out, pre-Jeb Bush, pre- Koch Brothers, and pre-ALEC Florida law would have required the following instructions to be read to a jury in a self-defense murder trial:


"The defendant [George Zimmerman] cannot justify the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless he used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force. The fact that the defendant [George Zimmerman] was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."


Note that according to these jury instructions, the defendant must do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting to use deadly force.

When confronted with a threat in 2005 and before, whether it was a deadly threat or simply the threat of violence, or even when confronted with actual violence, like being punched in the face or knocked to the pavement, the legal obligation was to work yourself free and run.

All that changed in Florida in 2006, when Florida's brand-spanking new and ALEC-promoted Stand Your Ground and Shoot First law came into effect.

Since 2006, post-Jeb Bush, post-Koch Brothers, and post-NRA and ALEC, the Stand Your Ground and Shoot First concept has become fully integrated into Florida's law regarding self-defense and the use of deadly force.

This is why the jury instructions for the Zimmerman jury included Stand Your Ground language, because that language is now part of Florida's laws about self-defense.

Listen carefully to the difference between the "You Must Retreat" language in the pre-2006 jury instructions and the instructions used in the Zimmerman trial. Remember, before 2006 Florida law said that even if the other guy started the fight, you still had an obligation to run. The old law read as follows:


"The fact that the defendant was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."


By comparison, here are the Stand Your Ground instructions that actually were read to the Zimmerman jury:


"The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.
"George Zimmerman... had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself ..."


George Zimmerman didn't even have to have a threat of deadly force used against him. All he had to do was imagine that there was such a threat. And instead of running, he could stand his ground and shoot first to kill.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/17637-why-were-trayvon-martin-and-george-zimmerman-held-to-two-different-standards-of-justice

[leemajors]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/17/zimmerman-trayvon-martin-sanford-jury-seminole-county/2530283/

[CosmicCowboy]

*sigh*

You really are fucking stupid Boutons

That is stand your ground. It has nothing to do with justifiable force in self defense.

[CosmicCowboy]

The "justifiable lethal force because of reasonable fear of serious bodily injury" which is what this case hinged on has been a part of the law since the 1800's.

[boutons_deux]

*sigh*

You really are fucking stupid Boutons

That is stand your ground. It has nothing to do with justifiable force in self defense.

Unlike you and the lawyers above, I am not a lawyer, but the FL SYG completely changed judges' instructions.

and, VERY OBVIOUSLY, even after running away and being pursued Z, TM perceived Z to be a stalking, persistent threat and "stood his ground" in self defense.

[Capt Bringdown]

Group shot of the Zimmerman jury

http://markcrispinmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1b79140c.png

[CosmicCowboy]

Unlike you and the lawyers above, I am not a lawyer, but the FL SYG completely changed judges' instructions.

and, VERY OBVIOUSLY, even after running away and being pursued Z, TM perceived Z to be a stalking, persistent threat and "stood his ground" in self defense.

In that case Trayvon can use SYG as a defense when he is charged with assaulting Zimmerman.

[CosmicCowboy]

Group shot of the Zimmerman jury

http://markcrispinmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1b79140c.png

That nigra boy needs mo butter!

[Creepn]

Group shot of the Zimmerman jury

http://markcrispinmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1b79140c.png

lol will be saving this pic to my phone and fowarding it.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

xFUDFAGlMZU

Nice to see not all African American's took the race baiting the media was feeding everyone. Juan Williams got his shit pushed in.

[CosmicCowboy]

Juan was just role playing.

[TeyshaBlue]

Group shot of the Zimmerman jury

http://markcrispinmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1b79140c.png

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

stop it, the media didn't do shit but play on the white race fear of blacks. i don't know why ya'll so scary, just 50 years ago ya'll were chasing us with ropes and burning crosses. man up.

lmao@ that paula dean photoshop.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

stop it, the media didn't do shit but play on the white race fear of blacks.


The media didn't do shit? You're fucking kidding right?

I know you've been following the case and I know you know that Zimmerman's 911 call was edited to make him look racist. If you don't believe it the lawsuit he will win against them for the editing will shut you up. This had nothing to do with race, quit pretending it did, it makes educated blacks like yourself look bad, doggie.

[CosmicCowboy]

stop it, the media didn't do shit but play on the white race fear of blacks. i don't know why ya'll so scary, just 50 years ago ya'll were chasing us with ropes and burning crosses. man up.

lmao@ that paula dean photoshop.

If that is that case why isn't it the whites rioting?

[boutons_deux]

Trayvon Martin And Why The Right-Wing Media (and SpursTalk righties) Spent 16 Months Smearing A Dead Teenager

Appearing on Fox & Friends in the wake of a Florida jury found (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/07/florida-jury-finds-george-zimmerman-not-guilty-of-murder-1.html) George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin, Geraldo Rivera's claim that Martin brought about his own death by dressing in a hooded sweatshirt the night of the killing was shocking, but not surprising. Echoing earlier comments (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/23/foxs-geraldo-rivera-if-you-dress-like-a-wannabe/184755) he made on the program, Rivera proclaimed: "You dress like a thug, people are going to treat you like a thug."

http://mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2013/07/17/geralodrivera1.jpg

It was shocking because the idea of a well-paid commentator going on television and blaming an unarmed teen for being shot while walking home inside a gated community because he wore a hoodie -- because he tried to look like "a thug" as Rivera put it -- is repellent.

So yes, Rivera's comments were shockingly awful and irresponsible. As was his claim (http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/07/12/foxs-rivera-i-submit-jurors-would-have-shot-and/194852) that the all-female jury "would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did." But his comments weren't surprising, because Fox News and too much of the right-wing media have spent the last 16 months zeroing in on the memory of a dead teenager and doing their best to denigrate it.

Apart from the far right's gleeful and disrespectful (http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/07/16/msnbcs-alex-wagner-highlights-right-wing-medias/194906) response to the not guilty verdict, there remains a separate thread of loud tastelessness that dates back to 2012 and focuses on the victim for all the wrong reasons, suggesting he somehow got what he deserved. (Or what he "sought (http://riehlworldview.com/?p=32204).")

Remember the fake, menacing photo of Martin that right-wing sites passed around (http://twitchy.com/2012/03/25/why-teamdueprocess-is-important-for-justice/) last year? And when The Daily Caller published (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ed-schultz-blasts-the-daily-caller-for-character-assassination-of-trayvon-martin/) tweets from the slain boy's closed Twitter account? Tweets that conservatives then used to portray the teen as a thug?

This week, Fox favorite Ten Nugent practically danced on Martin's grave (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/07/15/ted-nugent-travyon-martin-was-a-dope-smoking-ra/194872), accusing the dead teenager of being a "dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe" who was "responsible" for being shot by a volunteer neighborhood watchman on the night of February 26, 2012.

Comments by Rivera, Nugent and others (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/robertson-george-zimmerman-right-follow-trayvon-martin-because-criminals-wear-hoodies#sthash.4Gp9FZ5G.dpuf) were proof that a smear campaign was in full swing this week and a reminder the attacks are a continuation of the foul smears first unleashed in the wake of the killing. At the time, the attacks were an ugly attempt to justify Martin's death, to shift the blame away from the gunman, Zimmerman, and to cloud the debate about Florida's controversial (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/justice/florida-zimmerman-timeline) Stand Your Ground law. (Rivera in 2012: "I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin's death as George Zimmerman was.")

...

Then Glenn Beck's The Blaze published (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/21/the-blaze-do-we-know-trayvon-martin-wasnt-an-ar/186523) a laundry list of criminal offenses Martin may have committed while he was alive:


• Aggravated assault
• Aggravated battery against a non-staff member
• Armed robbery
• Arson
• Assault/Threat against M-DCPS employees or persons conducting official business
• Battery or Aggravated battery against M-DCPS employees or persons conducting official business*
• Homicide
• Kidnapping/Abduction
• Making a false report/threat against the school*
• Sexual battery
• Possession, use, sale, or distribution of firearms, explosives, destructive devices, and other weapons.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/07/17/trayvon-martin-and-why-the-right-wing-media-spe/194930

[Trill Clinton]

The media didn't do shit? You're fucking kidding right?

I know you've been following the case and I know you know that Zimmerman's 911 call was edited to make him look racist. If you don't believe it the lawsuit he will win against them for the editing will shut you up. This had nothing to do with race, quit pretending it did, it makes educated blacks like yourself look bad, doggie.

keep going, the media didn't do shit but run a smear campaign on a kid with no criminal record and ya'll ate that shit up. trayvon was called a thug, ghetto, loser, etc by people in this thread based off of what the media fed em. the jury of white women who probably have never had any contact with a 17 year old black male, fell for it, just like ya'll did. its the reason there was little to no empathy for trayvon and his family in these threads outside of the butthurt blacks and a few other posters.

[Trill Clinton]

If that is that case why isn't it the whites rioting?

first of all, their were no riots after the trial and ummm because they're white...why riot? only time ya'll riot is when ya'lls money is compromised, see the occupy wallstreet riots.

[CosmicCowboy]

keep going, the media didn't do shit but run a smear campaign on a kid with no criminal record and ya'll ate that shit up. trayvon was called a thug, ghetto, loser, etc by people in this thread based off of what the media fed em. the jury of white women who probably have never had any contact with a 17 year old black male, fell for it, just like ya'll did. its the reason there was little to no empathy for trayvon and his family in these threads outside of the butthurt blacks and a few other posters.

Now you are just trolling. For the first year it was scumbag Zimmerman/ poor innocent Trayvon all the time. Once the facts started trickling out that little Trayvon wasn't such a fucking angel the media slowplayed/ignored it like a muthafucker.

[Trill Clinton]

Now you are just trolling. For the first year it was scumbag Zimmerman/ poor innocent Trayvon all the time. Once the facts started trickling out that little Trayvon wasn't such a fucking angel the media slowplayed/ignored it like a muthafucker.


no you're trolling, he was a angel. it wasn't until the media decided to run a smear campaign on a kid did these adults ate it up. ya'll were like "omg!!! he's throwing up the middle finger and he has gold teeth, he's a thug!!!!" "omg he got into a fight!!!" none of that qualifies a kid as ghetto, thug, loser or whatever adjetive you used when describing a dead child.


http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/stylus/1028779-justin-bieber-selena-gomez-flipping-the-bird-617-409.jpg

http://cdn01.cdn.pinkisthenewblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/13/061313_mileygrillzfeat-250x250.jpg


http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/justin-bieber-smoking-weed-tommy-chong.jpg.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ALx7op1zZPU/UEykdztdvlI/AAAAAAAAAJU/MGP0l0SxCY0/s400/child+holding+rifle.jpg



same shit white kids do, black kids can't do because they'll get profiled and labeled as thugs. just keepin' it real.

[CosmicCowboy]

He got killed because he jumped and beat up Zimmerman. Call it what you want but Angel Trayvon would still be alive if he hadn't done that.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

keep going, the media didn't do shit but run a smear campaign on a kid with no criminal record and ya'll ate that shit up. trayvon was called a thug, ghetto, loser, etc by people in this thread based off of what the media fed em. the jury of white women who probably have never had any contact with a 17 year old black male, fell for it, just like ya'll did. its the reason there was little to no empathy for trayvon and his family in these threads outside of the butthurt blacks and a few other posters.

The media smeared them both, tried to make Zimmerman a racist and Treyvon a thug. Fair enough?

[CosmicCowboy]

In Trayvon's defense I'm beginning to think he was retarded if Jeantel was his main squeeze.

[Trill Clinton]

The media smeared them both, tried to make Zimmerman a racist and Treyvon a thug. Fair enough?

i dont see how they tried to make him a racist. he racially profiled a kid and Gerardo and others tried to justify it by saying trayvon was "dressed like a thug" cut n dry sublte racism to me.

[Trill Clinton]

He got killed because he jumped and beat up Zimmerman. Call it what you want but Angel Trayvon would still be alive if he hadn't done that.

i disagree but at this point its irrelevant.

[boutons_deux]

Now you are just trolling. For the first year it was scumbag Zimmerman/ poor innocent Trayvon all the time. Once the facts started trickling out that little Trayvon wasn't such a fucking angel the media slowplayed/ignored it like a muthafucker.

what's his supposed non-angelic character have to do with being stalked and murdered by a vigilante? the vigilante's "record" was MUCH worse and directly related to his armed aggression against the non-angel.

[CosmicCowboy]

what's his supposed non-angelic character have to do with being stalked and murdered by a vigilante? the vigilante's "record" was MUCH worse and directly related to his armed aggression against the non-angel.

Florida law and the jury verdict says you are full of bullshit as usual.

[angrydude]

i dont see how they tried to make him a racist. he racially profiled a kid and Gerardo and others tried to justify it by saying trayvon was "dressed like a thug" cut n dry sublte racism to me.

Maybe he was profiling people in hoodies? I don't think there was any evidence at all he profiled Trayvon because he was black.

[Jacob1983]

Didn't Trayvon profile Zimmerman as a gay rapist?

[CosmicCowboy]

Didn't Trayvon profile Zimmerman as a gay rapist?

actually, it was a gay rapist security guard. Remember, cracker = security guard. Jeantel is truly a credible witness.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

i dont see how they tried to make him a racist. he racially profiled a kid and Gerardo and others tried to justify it by saying trayvon was "dressed like a thug" cut n dry sublte racism to me.

You don't think editing his 911 call was done to make him look racist? Why'd they do it then?

[Jacob1983]

If Travyon thought that Zimmerman was a gay rapist, shouldn't he have just ran away? I mean if you are a straight male and don't want to be raped by a gay male rapist then wouldn't you run away from said gay male rapist?

[boobie4three]

I don't think anyone would be upset if Justin Bieber was shot, at least not me.

[CosmicCowboy]

If Travyon thought that Zimmerman was a gay rapist, shouldn't he have just ran away? I mean if you are a straight male and don't want to be raped by a gay male rapist then wouldn't you run away from said gay male rapist?

In fact, If Trayvon thought Zimmerman was gay the beating him up was a Federal hate crime.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

In fact, If Trayvon thought Zimmerman was gay the beating him up was a Federal hate crime.

True, because Rachel Jeantel was credible, or so I've been told by many here.

[boobie4three]

Will the LGBT community honor GZ for taking down a homophobe?

[Creepn]

Maybe he was profiling people in hoodies? I don't think there was any evidence at all he profiled Trayvon because he was black.

Hear all those calls to non-emergency about black males just milling about and looking "suspicious"? Only about one of them was actually doing a crime as well as a hispanic guy he called in about and another white guy but yet the majority were calls on black males. I'm sure there was a lot of whites and mexicans that walks about the neighborhood that he never seen before.

Shit I wouldn't be surprised that while he's on non-emergency spying on a black males, there was a white guy sneaking out the house holding a bag with a dollar sign on it over his shoulders.

[boutons_deux]

He got killed because he jumped and beat up Zimmerman. Call it what you want but Angel Trayvon would still be alive if he hadn't done that.

when gun fellators "feel" threatened, they can shoot to kill.

but when unarmed people feel threatened, tough shit.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

6vK5UkZrPcc

Elder speaks the truth.

And fuck Piers Morgan.

[AntiChrist]

6vK5UkZrPcc

Elder speaks the truth.

And fuck Piers Morgan.


Yikes. That was awkward. I couldn't watch the whole thing, tbh

[CosmicCowboy]

when gun fellators "feel" threatened, they can shoot to kill.

but when unarmed people feel threatened, tough shit.

That's why it's really stupid for anyone to start a fight. Tough shit, Trayvon. You took MMA to a gunfight.

[boobie4three]

6vK5UkZrPcc

Elder speaks the truth.

And fuck Piers Morgan.

That was outstanding. Elder ripped that POS Morgan a new one.

[boobie4three]

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN VS. TRAYVON MARTIN FAMILY ATTORNEY WHO CLAIMS TO BE A ‘SOCIAL ENGINEER’: ‘I’LL PUT MY CAREER UP AGAINST YOURS ANY DAY YOU WANT!’


Hottie Jasmine Rand gets schooled by Greta.

video at link.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/17/greta-van-susteren-vs-trayvon-martin-family-attorney-who-claims-to-be-a-social-engineer-ill-put-my-career-up-against-yours-any-day-you-want/

[DisAsTerBot]

lol at she speaks 3 languages fluently.

she barely speaks english tbh

[DisAsTerBot]

i thought there were no riots???


http://youtu.be/K6acow-1ZnU

[boobie4three]

i thought there were no riots???


http://youtu.be/K6acow-1ZnU


I'm not even going to dignify them by calling them animals. At least animals have a reason for attacking.

[Jacob1983]

Piers Morgan is a piece of shit. Bring Larry King back to life and back on CNN.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

6vK5UkZrPcc



Trill and Creepn, your thoughts on Larry Elder?

[boutons_deux]

Does the NRA Want African-American Men to Stand Their Ground?



On the night of February 26th, 2012, what did Trayvon Martin need that he didn’t have?

A loaded gun!

After all, as the NRA pointed out earlier this week, having access to a gun and being able to “stand your ground” is a human right.

In response to Attorney General Eric Holder’s comments about “Stand Your Ground” laws to the NAACP on Tuesday, the NRA released a statement, saying in part that, “The attorney general fails to understand that self-defense is not a concept, it’s a fundamental human right. To send a message that legitimate self-defense is to blame is unconscionable, and demonstrates once again that this administration will exploit tragedies to push their political agenda.”

And as the NRA’s 2-million-dollars-per-year spokesman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHE6j9rAhWU) Wayne Little Peter – excuse me, LaPierre - has said, “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.”

On the night of February 26th, 2012, both George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin felt threatened.

Zimmerman’s lawyers proved that with the pictures of his bloody head and nose, and with the verdict in the case.

And, it’s safe to assume that Trayvon Martin had a legitimate fear about dying since he ended up dead. What greater proof of fear for one’s death is there than being dead?

So for young black men like Trayvon Martin who are being constantly profiled and stalked by “creepy ass crackers” like George Zimmerman, what’s the solution?

Isn’t it obvious?

Give them a gun!

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/17652-how-can-african-american-men-stand-their-ground

If TM had shot GZ dead rather than punched him, would TM have been arrested on the spot?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Does the NRA Want African-American Men to Stand Their Ground?



On the night of February 26th, 2012, what did Trayvon Martin need that he didn’t have?

A loaded gun!

After all, as the NRA pointed out earlier this week, having access to a gun and being able to “stand your ground” is a human right.

In response to Attorney General Eric Holder’s comments about “Stand Your Ground” laws to the NAACP on Tuesday, the NRA released a statement, saying in part that, “The attorney general fails to understand that self-defense is not a concept, it’s a fundamental human right. To send a message that legitimate self-defense is to blame is unconscionable, and demonstrates once again that this administration will exploit tragedies to push their political agenda.”

And as the NRA’s 2-million-dollars-per-year spokesman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHE6j9rAhWU) Wayne Little Peter – excuse me, LaPierre - has said, “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.”

On the night of February 26th, 2012, both George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin felt threatened.

Zimmerman’s lawyers proved that with the pictures of his bloody head and nose, and with the verdict in the case.

And, it’s safe to assume that Trayvon Martin had a legitimate fear about dying since he ended up dead. What greater proof of fear for one’s death is there than being dead?

So for young black men like Trayvon Martin who are being constantly profiled and stalked by “creepy ass crackers” like George Zimmerman, what’s the solution?

Isn’t it obvious?

Give them a gun!

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/17652-how-can-african-american-men-stand-their-ground

If TM had shot GZ dead rather than punched him, would TM have been arrested on the spot?



Why would Trayvon had shot a man who was asking him what he was doing there?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Trill and Creepn, your thoughts on Larry Elder?

Guess it just doesn't fit your narrative

[boobie4three]

Guess it just doesn't fit your narrative

They don't have time for no "Uncle Tom". They'd rather listen to others.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/971524_482840895133444_415402997_n_zps94105aeb.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/971524_482840895133444_415402997_n_zps94105aeb.jpg .html)

[DPG21920]

i thought there were no riots???


http://youtu.be/K6acow-1ZnU

Does this mean that someone lost their bet on here?

[Creepn]

Does this mean that someone lost their bet on here?

Are there more than 3 overturned police cars?

Besides, like the headline, just looks like an unruly crowd than a riot to me.

DPG, honest question here. Seeing how Boobie conceded defeat and welshed on his bet, if blacks do happen to go on a full rage riot tonight, do you think I should honor the bet?

[boobie4three]

Are there more than 3 overturned police cars?

Besides, like the headline, just looks like an unruly crowd than a riot to me.

DPG, honest question here. Seeing how Boobie conceded defeat and welshed on his bet, if blacks do happen to go on a full rage riot tonight, do you think I should honor the bet?


Believe it or not, if I won the bet, this is the pic I would require in your sig.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/williams-tuqiri_zpsbe46cf34.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/williams-tuqiri_zpsbe46cf34.jpg.html)

Yessiree, ol' boobie is famous for initiating racial harmony.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

They don't have time for no "Uncle Tom". They'd rather listen to others.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/971524_482840895133444_415402997_n_zps94105aeb.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/971524_482840895133444_415402997_n_zps94105aeb.jpg .html)


It's really funny how they conveniently ignore Larry Elder because he speaks the truth.

[Trill Clinton]

6vK5UkZrPcc

Elder speaks the truth.

And fuck Piers Morgan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiV22pJYG7M

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNCpD3xhsY

[angrydude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNCpD3xhsY

nope, not racist at all.

[angrydude]

I guess Charles Barkley wants to go to white heaven too. Figures. All those white people cheering for you for so many years has got to have some effect, right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyA9YuYnq4I

[DPG21920]

Are there more than 3 overturned police cars?

Besides, like the headline, just looks like an unruly crowd than a riot to me.

DPG, honest question here. Seeing how Boobie conceded defeat and welshed on his bet, if blacks do happen to go on a full rage riot tonight, do you think I should honor the bet?

Yes. His act shows his true colors, but you are the better man. Just like when I was welshed on for over $500, then turned around and paid a $500 bet on here that I lost right after. Others actions don't dictate what I do. I do what's right regardless of what others have done to me. It's what separates good men from the rest.

[Trill Clinton]

I guess Charles Barkley wants to go to white heaven too. Figures. All those white people cheering for you for so many years has got to have some effect, right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyA9YuYnq4I

aight now this right here i agree with. i don't know why so many blacks played the race card but for whatever reason they did. even though slavery and the civil rights movement is a huge part of our culture and history, we need to learn to get over it. racism isn't a big deal anymore. we need to stop talking about racism like we have actually gone through it. most blacks have probably never faced racism head on so what's all the fuss?

zimmerman was just trying to protect his neighborhood that night and sadly things went south, fast. all the negative reports and horrible memes of trayvon's dead body was due to blacks overreacting, again, to nothing. i can't wait till the rest of black america catches up to charles and mr. elder. these men need to be leaders and beacon's of ispiration for young black men like myself to one day strive to be like.

[boobie4three]

aight now this right here i agree with. i don't know why so many blacks played the race card but for whatever reason they did. even though slavery and the civil rights movement is a huge part of our culture and history, we need to learn to get over it. racism isn't a big deal anymore. we need to stop talking about racism like we have actually gone through it. most blacks have probably never faced racism head on so what's all the fuss?

zimmerman was just trying to protect his neighborhood that night and sadly things went south, fast. all the negative reports and horrible memes of trayvon's dead body was due to blacks overreacting, again, to nothing. i can't wait till the rest of black america catches up to charles and mr. elder. these men need to be leaders and beacon's of ispiration for young black men like myself to one day strive to be like.

OK, who are you and what have you done with Trill?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

aight now this right here i agree with. i don't know why so many blacks played the race card but for whatever reason they did. even though slavery and the civil rights movement is a huge part of our culture and history, we need to learn to get over it. racism isn't a big deal anymore. we need to stop talking about racism like we have actually gone through it. most blacks have probably never faced racism head on so what's all the fuss?

zimmerman was just trying to protect his neighborhood that night and sadly things went south, fast. all the negative reports and horrible memes of trayvon's dead body was due to blacks overreacting, again, to nothing. i can't wait till the rest of black america catches up to charles and mr. elder. these men need to be leaders and beacon's of ispiration for young black men like myself to one day strive to be like.

First part was comedy, I appreciate the sarcasm and I get it. But your last sentence is truth.

[BradLohaus]

Pat Buchanan weighs in with some hate facts:

Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism
By Pat Buchanan - July 19, 2013

In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest.

Yet they know -- and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows -- nothing is going to happen.
"Stand-Your-Ground" laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal "hate crime" in the death of Trayvon Martin.


The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide.

Consider the matter of crime and fear of crime.

From listening to cable channels and hearing Holder, Sharpton, Jealous and others, one would think the great threat to black children today emanates from white vigilantes and white cops.

Hence, every black father must have a "conversation" with his son, warning him not to resist or run if pulled over or hassled by a cop.

Make the wrong move, son, and you may be dead is the implication.

But is this the reality in Black America?

When Holder delivered his 2009 "nation-of-cowards" speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute's Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald's facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.
And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?

Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: "The God's honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics."

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as "a black Hispanic" Yet he may be closer to the 'hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie -- in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It's never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we've got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?

What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white -- with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides -- in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 -- with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites -- or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.

Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem?

Obama seems not to think so. The Rev. Sharpton notwithstanding, he is touting Ray Kelly as a possible chief of homeland security.

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/19/black_americas_real_problem_isnt_white_racism_.htm l#ixzz2ZSUZikTG
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Pat Buchanan weighs in with some hate facts: Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism By Pat Buchanan - July 19, 2013 In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest. Yet they know -- and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows -- nothing is going to happen. "Stand-Your-Ground" laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal "hate crime" in the death of Trayvon Martin. The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide. Consider the matter of crime and fear of crime. From listening to cable channels and hearing Holder, Sharpton, Jealous and others, one would think the great threat to black children today emanates from white vigilantes and white cops. Hence, every black father must have a "conversation" with his son, warning him not to resist or run if pulled over or hassled by a cop. Make the wrong move, son, and you may be dead is the implication. But is this the reality in Black America? When Holder delivered his 2009 "nation-of-cowards" speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute's Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics. In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals. New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald's facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics. And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport. Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades? According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities. But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy? Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: "The God's honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics." Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as "a black Hispanic" Yet he may be closer to the 'hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie -- in Georgetown. Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It's never had a white mayor. Is Holder saying we've got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.? What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse? After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white -- with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study." Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides -- in America? And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 -- with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership. Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites -- or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans. Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem? Obama seems not to think so. The Rev. Sharpton notwithstanding, he is touting Ray Kelly as a possible chief of homeland security. Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/19/black_americas_real_problem_isnt_white_racism_.htm l#ixzz2ZSUZikTG Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyblucdGLD1qk25yuo1_500.gif

[symple19]

Pat Buchanan weighs in with some hate facts:

Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism
By Pat Buchanan - July 19, 2013

In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest.

Yet they know -- and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows -- nothing is going to happen.
"Stand-Your-Ground" laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal "hate crime" in the death of Trayvon Martin.


The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide.

Consider the matter of crime and fear of crime.

From listening to cable channels and hearing Holder, Sharpton, Jealous and others, one would think the great threat to black children today emanates from white vigilantes and white cops.

Hence, every black father must have a "conversation" with his son, warning him not to resist or run if pulled over or hassled by a cop.

Make the wrong move, son, and you may be dead is the implication.

But is this the reality in Black America?

When Holder delivered his 2009 "nation-of-cowards" speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute's Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald's facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.
And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?

Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: "The God's honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics."

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as "a black Hispanic" Yet he may be closer to the 'hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie -- in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It's never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we've got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?

What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white -- with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides -- in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 -- with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites -- or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.

Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem?

Obama seems not to think so. The Rev. Sharpton notwithstanding, he is touting Ray Kelly as a possible chief of homeland security.

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/19/black_americas_real_problem_isnt_white_racism_.htm l#ixzz2ZSUZikTG
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

:lmao That's an amazing, fact-filled, smackdown



/thread

[Creepn]

Pat Buchanan weighs in with some hate facts:

Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism
By Pat Buchanan - July 19, 2013

In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest.

Yet they know -- and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows -- nothing is going to happen.
"Stand-Your-Ground" laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal "hate crime" in the death of Trayvon Martin.


The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide.

Consider the matter of crime and fear of crime.

From listening to cable channels and hearing Holder, Sharpton, Jealous and others, one would think the great threat to black children today emanates from white vigilantes and white cops.

Hence, every black father must have a "conversation" with his son, warning him not to resist or run if pulled over or hassled by a cop.

Make the wrong move, son, and you may be dead is the implication.

But is this the reality in Black America?

When Holder delivered his 2009 "nation-of-cowards" speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute's Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald's facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.
And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?

Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: "The God's honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics."

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as "a black Hispanic" Yet he may be closer to the 'hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie -- in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It's never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we've got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?

What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for "Suicide of a Superpower," this writer concluded: "An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white -- with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides -- in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 -- with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites -- or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.

Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem?

Obama seems not to think so. The Rev. Sharpton notwithstanding, he is touting Ray Kelly as a possible chief of homeland security.

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/19/black_americas_real_problem_isnt_white_racism_.htm l#ixzz2ZSUZikTG
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter
So I read it and it reminds me why I don't read stuff like this that gets automatic praise from the board's racists. First of all, I think it's funny he uses gun violence from ONE state as a basis to generalize the whole black community. Also, why doesn't he use more relevant crime data? From wiki:

For 2011, law enforcement made approximately 12,400,000 arrests nationally.[15] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011arrests-15) Arrested offenders in the United States tend to be male,[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table42-16) over age 18,[17] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table32-17) and white.[18] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table43-18)


Year
White
Black
American
Indian
Asian or
Pacific Islander
White (%)
Black (%)
American
Indian (%)
Asian or
Pacific Islander (%)


2011
6,578,133
2,697,539
142,422
81,631
69.2
28.4
1.5
0.9




Year
Male
Female
Male (%)
Female (%)


2011
7,066,303
2,471,370
74.1
25.9


Characteristics of offenders vary from the average for specific types of crimes and specific crimes. In terms of violent crime by gender, in 2011, 80.4% of arrested persons were male and 19.6% were female.[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table42-16) Males were 88.2% of those arrested for homicide, while females were 11.8%.[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table42-16) Among those arrested for rape in 2011, males were 98.8% and females were 1.2%.[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table42-16) For property crime in 2011, 62.9% of arrested persons were male and 37.1% were female.[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table42-16)
For violent crime by race in 2011, 59.4% of those arrested were white, 38.3% were black, and 2.2% were of other races.[18] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table43-18)For persons arrested for homicide in 2011, 49.7% were black, 48% were white, and 2.3% were of other races.[18] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table43-18) For persons arrested for rape in 2011, 65% were white, 32.9% were black, and 2.1% were of other races.[18] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table43-18) For property crime in 2011, 68.1% of arrested persons were white, 29.5% were black, and 2.4% were of other races.[18] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-ucr2011table43-18)
In 2011, law enforcement reported 6,222 bias-motivated incidents, known as hate crimes, for which 5,731 offenders were identified.[19] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-fbi_2011_hate-19) Of these, 59% were white, 20.9% were black, 7.1% were of various races, 1.4% were Asian or Pacific Islanders, 0.8% were Native American, and 10.8% were of unknown race.[19] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-fbi_2011_hate-19)

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Honestly, white people really need to get over this presumption that they are a race of angels. It's pretty annoying.

As the article says, characteristics of specific crimes varies so pointing a finger at one group is pretty stupid. All this shit is divisive bullshit anyways and it really doesn't focus on the problem when we point fingers at each other.

[boutons_deux]

"to be an ever-deepening racial divide."

as if racist Buchannan gave the tiniest shit about racial divide, the man who in Congress really lead and formalized the division and polarization and obstructionism of America as a smash-mouth, all politics all the time, fuck-governing/fuck-government Repug strategy.

[BradLohaus]

^^
White = 69.2
Black = 28.4
American Indian 1.5
Asian or PI= 0.9

Total = 100%

No mention of Hispanic skews these. Fuzzy got on to me for mentioning this fact awhile back, but a very large portion of the white part is made up of Hispanics (white vs. non-white Hispanics? Who the hell knows. Good luck trying to look these stats up btw; welcome to Richweine land.)

I guess you could say that Hispanic is an ethincity and not a race; the left (MSNBC!) loves to go to that point when they are grouping offenders, but seems to forget that angle when they are breaking down other racial stats like poverty, educaton, victims of crimes, and so forth.

The point is that black males commit a lot of violent crime, and people tend to notice that. I've read that black males age 18-49 are 5% of the population and commit half of the violent crime, but that was years ago. Recently during this trial I read that black males age 14-24 are 1% of the population but represent 27% of violent offenders. There are thousands of searches you could do on these stats that all tell the same basic story. Call me a racist if you want to and debate the causes, but again, it's hard to fault people for noticing this.

[Trill Clinton]

CHARLES BARKLEY: Well, I agreed with the verdict. I feel sorry that young kid got killed. But they didn't have enough evidence to charge him. Something clearly went wrong that night. Clearly something went wrong. I feel bad for anybody who loses a kid, but if you looked at the case and you don't make it -- there was some racial profiling, no question about it. But something happened that changed the dynamic of that night, and I know -- that's probably not a popular opinion among most people but just looking at the evidence I agreed with the verdict.

I just feel bad because I don't like when race gets out in the media because I don't think the media has a pure heart, as I call it. There are very few people have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any, shape, form -- a lot of black people are racist too. I think sometimes when people talk about racism, they say only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. I don't like when it gets out there in the media because I don't think the media has clean hands.

MARIA BARTIROMO, CNBC: I'm glad you made that point.

BARKLEY: Obviously I feel sorry that young kid got killed but just judging by the evidence, I don't think that guy should have went to jail the rest of his life. Something happened bad that night, obviously.

BARTIROMO: I like what the juror said, they both should have walked away. And if there is a shadow of a doubt, there is a shadow of a doubt.

BARKLEY: And let me tell you, Mr. Zimmerman was wrong to pursue -- he was racial profiling. I think Trayvon Martin, God rest his soul, I think he did flip the switch and started beating the hell out of Mr. Zimmerman. But it was just a bad situation. And like I said, the main thing I feel bad for, it gives every black and white person who is racist a platform to vent their ignorance.

That's the thing that bothers me the most because I watched this trial closely and I watch all these people are television talking about it. A lot of people have a hidden agenda. You know, they want their racist views, whether they are white or black --

BARTIROMO: The bias comes out.

BARKLEY: The bias, it definitely comes out. It was a bad situation, we all lost. And I feel bad for his parents. You don't ever want to see anybody lose a kid. (CNBC Closing Bell, July 18, 2013)







now i agree with everything mr.barkley said but lets be clear, trayvon was not, i repeat, was not! racially profiled by mr. zimmerman. mr. zimmerman is a hero with a big heart and was only doing what was right for his fellow homeowners. nothing illegal about following a person but i tell ya what, there is something called assault and that is what trayvon did that night. this is america and i should be able to follow whomever i please without them swinging baboon punches on me.

another point in that bold section i don't agree with is mr. barkley says it gives black and white racists a platform to vent their ignorance, excuse me mr. barkley but if these jigaboos weren't so damn insecure and sensitive about race, the good white man wouldn't have made fun of trayvon. whites are probably the most non racist group out there, but blacks sure to love to oppress others with their racism and they want to cry wolf every chance they get. i hope we hear more from mr. barkley and this isn't a one time attention whore oppportunity for mr. barkley. he needs to keep this up, these negroes need to hear the truth.

[Trill Clinton]

why are these jigaboos using trayvon's death as an opportunity to reach millions of blacks? just because it has america's attention doesn't mean you need to preach racism, hate and bring up slavery and the civil rights movement. you don't see the chinese or irish complaining!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXkKi05hhW8

[CosmicCowboy]

why are these jigaboos using trayvon's death as an opportunity to reach millions of blacks? just because it has america's attention doesn't mean you need to preach racism, hate and bring up slavery and the civil rights movement. you don't see the chinese or irish complaining!!!



Totally agree. Glad you have figured out how ridiculous it is. :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Totally agree. Glad you have figured out how ridiculous it is. :lol

my butthurt clouded my judgement. i just wish these black intellectuals take all that black empowerement talk back to where they came from. yes their message will reach more people now more than ever, but so what?

[Creepn]

^^
White = 69.2
Black = 28.4
American Indian 1.5
Asian or PI= 0.9

Total = 100%

No mention of Hispanic skews these. Fuzzy got on to me for mentioning this fact awhile back, but a very large portion of the white part is made up of Hispanics (white vs. non-white Hispanics? Who the hell knows. Good luck trying to look these stats up btw; welcome to Richweine land.)

I guess you could say that Hispanic is an ethincity and not a race; the left (MSNBC!) loves to go to that point when they are grouping offenders, but seems to forget that angle when they are breaking down other racial stats like poverty, educaton, victims of crimes, and so forth.

The point is that black males commit a lot of violent crime, and people tend to notice that. I've read that black males age 18-49 are 5% of the population and commit half of the violent crime, but that was years ago. Recently during this trial I read that black males age 14-24 are 1% of the population but represent 27% of violent offenders. There are thousands of searches you could do on these stats that all tell the same basic story. Call me a racist if you want to and debate the causes, but again, it's hard to fault people for noticing this.

I will agree with your skew point if you agree with me that about half of those "crimes" done by blacks are false and trumped up charges. There are plenty of evidence where cops are happy to slap cuffs on a black man.

My point would be that although there are more arrests and a fair share of crimes done by whites, blacks still get profiled and serve longer terms in jail than their white counterparts that does the same crime.

[boutons_deux]

"Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem?"

duh, of course they are. vigilantes and corrupt cops are problems for any of their targets. Buchannan is as racist and divisive as ever. typical right-wing asshole.

[Creepn]

"Are white vigilantes or white cops really Black America's problem?"

duh, of course they are. vigilantes and corrupt cops are problems for any of their targets. Buchannan is as racist and divisive as ever. typical right-wing asshole.




Yeah I agree, that was a pretty divisive article only to serve as empowerment and fuel superiority. That was my first article I read by Pat and will not be reading another now that I know how he is.

[CosmicCowboy]

Why are all these people outraged by "stand your ground" or "Florida law" when "stand your ground" had nothing to do with this case and Florida uses the same basic definition of self defense as the other 50 states?

[CosmicCowboy]

I will agree with your skew point if you agree with me that about half of those "crimes" done by blacks are false and trumped up charges. There are plenty of evidence where cops are happy to slap cuffs on a black man.

My point would be that although there are more arrests and a fair share of crimes done by whites, blacks still get profiled and serve longer terms in jail than their white counterparts that does the same crime.

Seriously? Half? :lmao

[Trill Clinton]

I will agree with your skew point if you agree with me that about half of those "crimes" done by blacks are false and trumped up charges. There are plenty of evidence where cops are happy to slap cuffs on a black man.

My point would be that although there are more arrests and a fair share of crimes done by whites, blacks still get profiled and serve longer terms in jail than their white counterparts that does the same crime.


also, police typically spend more time in impoverished areas where the inhabitants are minorities. so they're focusing all of their attention on blacks and latinos. if police spent majority of their time trying to stop fraud, sexual assaults and white collar crimes, the numbers would be flipped. those stats are very misleading.

[elbamba]

also, police typically spend more time in impoverished areas where the inhabitants are minorities. so they're focusing all of their attention on blacks and latinos. if police spent majority of their time trying to stop fraud, sexual assaults and white collar crimes, the numbers would be flipped. those stats are very misleading.

Its easy to convict a poor minority who has no means to retain a Mark O'Mara or Don West. The easy convictions inflate prosecutors numbers and get them reelected based on people in the community feeling safe. Not saying they should not focus their efforts in both places, but you can see why they stick to the easy convictions.

As a side note, the very special prosecutor who headed the Zimmerman case was the same prosecutor who convicted Marissa Alexander. If Zimmerman is a murderer according to Corey, what is Alexander?

[Trill Clinton]

Its easy to convict a poor minority who has no means to retain a Mark O'Mara or Don West. The easy convictions inflate prosecutors numbers and get them reelected based on people in the community feeling safe. Not saying they should not focus their efforts in both places, but you can see why they stick to the easy convictions.

As a side note, the very special prosecutor who headed the Zimmerman case was the same prosecutor who convicted Marissa Alexander. If Zimmerman is a murderer according to Corey, what is Alexander?

gotcha and i agree. in regards to marissa alexander, it just shows the hypocrisy and inconsistency in florida in regards to their syg and self defense laws. unlike zimmerman, marissa had no criminal record, didn't kill anyone and she was arrested on the spot. she chose to go the stand your ground route and it backfired in her face and got served 20 years in prison, sad.

ironically, corey said alexander wasn't in fear when she fired a warning shot. if that's her stance then i see why she and her legal team were so weak during the trayvon trial.

[boutons_deux]

Why are all these people outraged by "stand your ground" or "Florida law" when "stand your ground" had nothing to do with this case and Florida uses the same basic definition of self defense as the other 50 states?

You Lie, duh

TM had every reason, under FL SYG, to feel REASONABLE fear of and confront, in his own defense, his attacker, even after initially not standing his ground and running away.

[AntiChrist]

GhzMUKznZo0

[elbamba]

gotcha and i agree. in regards to marissa alexander, it just shows the hypocrisy and inconsistency in florida in regards to their syg and self defense laws. unlike zimmerman, marissa had no criminal record, didn't kill anyone and she was arrested on the spot. she chose to go the stand your ground route and it backfired in her face and got served 20 years in prison, sad.

ironically, corey said alexander wasn't in fear when she fired a warning shot. if that's her stance then i see why she and her legal team were so weak during the trayvon trial.


I think that thanks to the Martin/Zimmerman incident, Alexander might actually stand a chance of getting her conviction overturned. It would be the right thing to do.

I will make two additional notes that don't work in her favor and if a court takes them into consideration they might not overturn the conviction.

1. She went to the marital house after two months of staying away, and it is my understanding that she went while she knew her ex-husband would be away. (She has the right to do this but then she slept at the house instead of leaving before he could come home)

2. After going to her car, she could have fled at this point, no need to go back inside the house.

All that aside though, under the law, she would have been better off taking his life. What does that say about SYG?

Two notes I wanted to add about SYG as I have tried not to weigh in too much to the post trial Zimmerman case:

1. Even though there was not a SYG hearing, in the jury instructions, the court instructed the jury on SYG law. I have seen a few comments on here that incorrectly state that SYG was not a part of the Zimmerman case. They just did not have a SYG hearing.

2. SYG is taking a lot of heat, but one of the main reasons it was instituted so that you could take deadly force before suffering injury or death was to protect women from being raped. No woman should have to wait until after she is raped to use deadly force. I still stand by the real intent of SYG law. Every state needs to reevalute the law and draft exceptions that would prevent armed vigilantism.

[elbamba]

You Lie, duh

TM had every reason, under FL SYG, to feel REASONABLE fear of and confront, in his own defense, his attacker, even after initially not standing his ground and running away.

Offense intended, this is a stupid argument and it undermines the entire case the prosecution tried to make in the Zimmerman trial. By admitting that he had the right to defend himself, you are in essence, conceding that Martin became the agressor.

If Martin had killed Zimmerman, he might have very well been justified in doing so under SYG. However, he would have had to show that he was in fear of immenent bodily harm or death. A stranger following you would likely not rise to that level. If Zimmerman had been shouting obscenities at him and brandishing his gun, then its a different story. However, you have no proof that he was standing his ground nor do you have any proof that he was not the first to throw a punch.

You position is pieced together by a few rather small inconsistencies that Zimmerman gave law enforcement over a series of 6 interviews. Having been in this business long enough, stories vary every day. The heart of the story stays the same but the details always change. Get over thefact that he was found not guilty. Most reasonably people can reach the conclusion that there was not enough evidence to convict. There was nothing but speculation to support the prosecution, hardley the evidence that rises to beyond a reasonable doubt.

[AntiChrist]

Two notes I wanted to add about SYG as I have tried not to weigh in too much to the post trial Zimmerman case:

1. Even though there was not a SYG hearing, in the jury instructions, the court instructed the jury on SYG law. I have seen a few comments on here that incorrectly state that SYG was not a part of the Zimmerman case. There just was not hear SYG hearing.

2. SYG is taking a lot of heat, but one of the main reasons it was instituted so that you could take deadly force before suffering injury or death was to protect women from being raped. No woman should have to wait until after she is raped to use deadly force. I still stand by the real intent of SYG law. Every state needs to reevalute the law and draft exceptions that would prevent armed vigilantism.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22881103/zimmerman-attorney


"It's not a stand your ground case. It has nothing to do with a stand your ground statute. It's a phrase that's in the jury instruction. It wasn't focused on in the trial, it wasn't focused on in the closing argument, and it wasn't talked about by the jury, because there was no issue to talk about,"

Trayvon Martin's family attorney, Natalie Jackson, tweeted on Thursday that the stand your ground law was a part of this case.
"When we heard B37 speak about it on Anderson Cooper, she said that she really took that into consideration, and the jury did in their verdict. It was on the jury instructions. It was a part of this case. That's the problem in this case. Stand your ground has been used as a default excuse for every action wrong action in this case."

O'Mara disagrees.


"So she [Jackson] can say it's in the jury instruction as she knows. So is excusable homicide, which has nothing to do with this case. Those jury instructions are out there, because the Supreme Court helps come up with them and use them in every case."




Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22881103/zimmerman-attorney#ixzz2ZVKEvnzx

[boutons_deux]

" By admitting that he had the right to defend himself, you are in essence, conceding that Martin became the agressor. "

damn, what bullshit.

GZ was the stalking, armed vigilante, initiating the fear-engendering, threatening behavior, based on GZ's racial profiling. TM did nothing but defend himself AGAINST THE ARMED AGGRESSOR. That doesn't make TM the aggressor.

[elbamba]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22881103/zimmerman-attorney

Trayvon Martin's family attorney, Natalie Jackson, tweeted on Thursday that the stand your ground law was a part of this case.
"When we heard B37 speak about it on Anderson Cooper, she said that she really took that into consideration, and the jury did in their verdict. It was on the jury instructions. It was a part of this case. That's the problem in this case. Stand your ground has been used as a default excuse for every action wrong action in this case."

O'Mara disagrees.

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22881103/zimmerman-attorney#ixzz2ZVKEvnzx

While I agree with O'Mara that it was not apart of the case he was making, the jury could still consider it as it was in the jury instructions and like Jackson said, the juror acknowledged that they used it in reaching their conclusion. I would also imagine that the jury had seen SYG as an issue in this case prior to being selected. We all know that this case was in all of our faces for 16 months. For the jurors and witnesses to suggest that they had not been influenced by all the media information on the case is most likely a lie.

[elbamba]

" By admitting that he had the right to defend himself, you are in essence, conceding that Martin became the agressor. "

damn, what bullshit.

GZ was the stalking, armed vigilante, initiating the fear-engendering, threatening behavior, based on GZ's racial profiling. TM did nothing but defend himself AGAINST THE ARMED AGGRESSOR. That doesn't make TM the aggressor.

You are stupid.

[Trill Clinton]

I think that thanks to the Martin/Zimmerman incident, Alexander might actually stand a chance of getting her conviction overturned. It would be the right thing to do.

I will make two additional notes that don't work in her favor and if a court takes them into consideration they might not overturn the conviction.

1. She went to the marital house after two months of staying away, and it is my understanding that she went while she knew her ex-husband would be away. (She has the right to do this but then she slept at the house instead of leaving before he could come home)

2. After going to her car, she could have fled at this point, no need to go back inside the house.

All that aside though, under the law, she would have been better off taking his life. What does that say about SYG?

Two notes I wanted to add about SYG as I have tried not to weigh in too much to the post trial Zimmerman case:

1. Even though there was not a SYG hearing, in the jury instructions, the court instructed the jury on SYG law. I have seen a few comments on here that incorrectly state that SYG was not a part of the Zimmerman case. They just did not have a SYG hearing.

2. SYG is taking a lot of heat, but one of the main reasons it was instituted so that you could take deadly force before suffering injury or death was to protect women from being raped. No woman should have to wait until after she is raped to use deadly force. I still stand by the real intent of SYG law. Every state needs to reevalute the law and draft exceptions that would prevent armed vigilantism.

according to her ex husband's testimony, he wouldn't let her leave the house until she sat down and talked to him. she then ran to the garage to her car to grab her weapon, but she couldn't leave the garage because the door was locked(?)

Gray said that when she tried to leave the bathroom, “I met her where the sink was, and she wanted to get by me and I wouldn’t let her by and I was backing up slow but I was using my body to pretty much contain her in that one area where I want her to be at. [S]he got the bathroom door closed and she locked it, so I were beating on it. [I] was there waiting for her to come out of the bathroom.”

“I was in a rage. I was in a rage, so I was saying a lot of things.” He said, “I beat on the door hard enough where it could have been broken open. [P]robably has some dents.” And: “I was mad, you know … I called her a whore and a bitch.”

“She was trying to get by and I was sitting there trying to make her talk to me. [T]he more she didn’t want to talk about it, the more I was not letting her by.” After she got out of the bathroom, “I was telling her, she ain’t going nowhere, she going to sit right here. [S]he was trying to get by … and I was telling her she not going nowhere.”

He was asked, “Did you ever tell her you knew people that would do your dirt?” Gray said, “Yeah. [I] ain’t going to lie. I been in the streets … I know a lot of people …” Asked if the purpose of “saying something like that was to let her know if she didn’t do what you wanted her to do that you could have hurt her or something?,” he answered, “That’s correct.”

He described her going to the garage, “but I knew that she couldn’t leave out the garage because the garage door was locked …” He reiterated, “I knew she couldn’t get out of the garage.”

“She came back through the doors and she had a gun [from her car]. And she said, ‘You need to leave.’ I told her, I ain’t leaving until you talk to me … and I started walking towards her and she shot in the air.”

Remember, Corey claims that Alexander was not scared at this point. Really. She also claims that Rico Gray lied in this deposition to protect Alexander. Because misogynist monsters always implicate themselves in crimes to protect women.

[boutons_deux]

SYG was BLATANTLY in the judge's instructions and the jury verdict. They said GZ had every right to use lethal force, permitted by FL SYB, to protect himself against TM protecting himself. Before the FL SYG law, the judge's instructions would have been very different, as I posted above.

[boobie4three]

You Lie, duh

TM had every reason, under FL SYG, to feel REASONABLE fear of and confront, in his own defense, his attacker, even after initially not standing his ground and running away.

Before the jury got the case, lawyers from both sides took them through the evidence again.
Zimmerman’s lead defense attorney, Mark O’Mara, went first. He said Zimmerman is “not guilty of anything but protecting his own life.”


Martin, he said, sowed the seeds of his own destruction.
“We know he had the opportunity to go home, and he didn't do that,” O’Mara said. “The person who decided to make the night violent was the guy who didn't go home when he had the chance.”
There were four minutes from the moment Zimmerman reported to a police dispatcher that Martin was “running” to the moment when a resident called 911 to report a fight in progress, O’Mara said.

To demonstrate that, O’Mara then said nothing for four minutes as Zimmerman nervously mopped his brow.
“Four minutes,” O’Mara told the jury. “That felt like a long time. Four minutes to what? To walk home? To run home?”
But Martin didn’t do that, the lawyer said, adding that he circled back and attacked Zimmerman.

Martin had 4 minutes to walk home from the time Zimmerman told the dispatcher he was running. Martin could have headed home in that time but he decided to lay in wait and ambush Zimmerman. To argue against that makes you look like a fool.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/connect-dots-defense-delivers-closing-statements-zimmerman-trial-article-1.1397053

[elbamba]

according to her ex husband's testimony, he wouldn't let her leave the house until she sat down and talked to him. she then ran to the garage to her car to grab her weapon, but she couldn't leave the garage because the door was locked(?)

Gray said that when she tried to leave the bathroom, “I met her where the sink was, and she wanted to get by me and I wouldn’t let her by and I was backing up slow but I was using my body to pretty much contain her in that one area where I want her to be at. [S]he got the bathroom door closed and she locked it, so I were beating on it. [I] was there waiting for her to come out of the bathroom.”

“I was in a rage. I was in a rage, so I was saying a lot of things.” He said, “I beat on the door hard enough where it could have been broken open. [P]robably has some dents.” And: “I was mad, you know … I called her a whore and a bitch.”

“She was trying to get by and I was sitting there trying to make her talk to me. [T]he more she didn’t want to talk about it, the more I was not letting her by.” After she got out of the bathroom, “I was telling her, she ain’t going nowhere, she going to sit right here. [S]he was trying to get by … and I was telling her she not going nowhere.”

He was asked, “Did you ever tell her you knew people that would do your dirt?” Gray said, “Yeah. [I] ain’t going to lie. I been in the streets … I know a lot of people …” Asked if the purpose of “saying something like that was to let her know if she didn’t do what you wanted her to do that you could have hurt her or something?,” he answered, “That’s correct.”

He described her going to the garage, “but I knew that she couldn’t leave out the garage because the garage door was locked …” He reiterated, “I knew she couldn’t get out of the garage.”

“She came back through the doors and she had a gun [from her car]. And she said, ‘You need to leave.’ I told her, I ain’t leaving until you talk to me … and I started walking towards her and she shot in the air.”

Remember, Corey claims that Alexander was not scared at this point. Really. She also claims that Rico Gray lied in this deposition to protect Alexander. Because misogynist monsters always implicate themselves in crimes to protect women.

Thanks for the update. It would be a travesty if this case is not overturned.

[AntiChrist]

SYG was BLATANTLY in the judge's instructions and the jury verdict. They said GZ had every right to use lethal force, permitted by FL SYB, to protect himself against TM protecting himself. Before the FL SYG law, the judge's instructions would have been very different, as I posted above.

It's a boilerplate instruction. As O'Mara pointed out, "excusable homicide" is also in the instruction, but had nothing to do with this case.

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf

[boutons_deux]

It's a boilerplate instruction. As O'Mara pointed out, "excusable homicide" is also in the instruction, but had nothing to do with this case.

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf

the boilerplate instructions are informed by the FL SYG law, the boilerplate instructions BEFORE the FL SYG law were different.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's a boilerplate instruction. As O'Mara pointed out, "excusable homicide" is also in the instruction, but had nothing to do with this case.

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf

Give up. Boutons is just too stupid and butthurt to admit that that it was a legal self defense shoot. Neither the prosecution or the defense addressed SYG during the trial. It was all about "reasonable fear of serious injury". That's why the prosecution expended so much effort trying to trivialize the broken nose and cuts to his head. They were tryuing to convince the jury his fear wasn't reasonable.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Give up. Boutons is just too stupid and butthurt to admit that that it was a legal self defense shoot. Neither the prosecution or the defense addressed SYG during the trial. It was all about "reasonable fear of serious injury". That's why the prosecution expended so much effort trying to trivialize the broken nose and cuts to his head. They were tryuing to convince the jury his fear wasn't reasonable.

FuzzyLumpkins was there and has assurred me that his fear was unreasonable. He's seen brains spill out god damn it.

[boutons_deux]

"it was a legal self defense shoot."

legalized by the FL SYG law

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I don't have (much of) a dick but I HAVE hard DICK SURROGATE!

[CosmicCowboy]

"it was a legal self defense shoot."

legalized by the FL SYG law

Legalized by self defense in all 50 states.

You sure are a dumb, stubborn mothefucker.

[boutons_deux]

Justice Department to Florida police: Hold Zimmerman’s gun until our investigation ends
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/19/justice-department-to-florida-police-hold-zimmermans-gun-until-our-investigation-ends/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29