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boobie4three
07-14-2013, 09:31 AM
Hey idiot don't get too happy. Where were the riots? That's what happens when you make bets on fear and bullshit.
Are you going to follow through or are you going to puss out, which won't be surprising in the least bit to me?
Still early loser. We've got some action out in Oakland and I'm counting on Trill to have a hand in flipping at least 2 patrol cars himself, so be patient.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-14-2013, 09:36 AM
The media wouldn't care nearly as much, nor would they if this were a black-on-black killing, tbh.....
Truth bombs, tbh.
Actually, if Martin was white, the media might have glorified the Hispanic half of Zimmerman to make it a racial issue. I'm anxious to see the next murder trial that distracts America from the 92398732982398234 more important issues in this country.
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 09:44 AM
more important issues in this country.
SYG laws and racist murders ARE important issues.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 09:46 AM
Odds of the feds charging Z for civil rights violations like in the Rodney King cops case? Al Sharpton did say he was going to push it hard to Holder on MSNBC, as has the NAACP. I'll say no.
Creepn
07-14-2013, 09:48 AM
Still early loser. We've got some action out in Oakland and I'm counting on Trill to have a hand in flipping at least 2 patrol cars himself, so be patient.“Protests are nothing but peaceful, don’t believe the hype #Oakland”Another user reports that Oakland unrest reports are not protestors from Trayvon Martin rallies, saying white “college kids” have been the ones rioting in small numbers"
I will give you tonight and that is it.
boobie4three
07-14-2013, 09:50 AM
“Protests are nothing but peaceful, don’t believe the hype #Oakland”Another user reports that Oakland unrest reports are not protestors from Trayvon Martin rallies, saying white “college kids” have been the ones rioting in small numbers"
I will give you tonight and that is it.
Fair enough Creepy.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 09:51 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/310843-holder-faces-big-decision-on-zimmerman
Holder faces big decision on DOJ charges against Zimmerman
By Meghashyam Mali - 07/14/13 08:13 AM ET
Attorney General Eric Holder faces a crucial decision on whether to press federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman, after the neighborhood watchman was acquitted Saturday in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin.
The NAACP and other leading civil rights groups are pressing for Holder to open a federal case against Zimmerman, after he was found not guilty on second-degree murder and manslaughter charges by a Florida jury.
The public pressure leaves Holder, the nation’s first African-American attorney general, facing a difficult decision on a controversial case that has grabbed the nation’s attention and sparked renewed debate about racial profiling.
In a statement from NAACP President Ben Jealous, the civil rights group said they were “not done demanding justice for Trayvon Martin.”
“The most fundamental of civil rights—the right to life—was violated the night George Zimmerman stalked and then took the life of Trayvon Martin. We ask that the Department of Justice file civil rights charges against Mr. Zimmerman for this egregious violation,” said the group in a petition unveiled Saturday night. “Please address the travesties of the tragic death of Trayvon Martin by acting today.”
On CNN Sunday, civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson also demanded that the Justice Department “intervene” and “take this to another level.”
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•Martins' lawyer: 'Different dynamic' in DOJ case
Many Democratic lawmakers are also joining those calls, with Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) tweeting a message from Jealous asking for the DOJ to act.
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) tweeted he was “deeply saddened” by the verdict, but was “pleased that DOJ is continuing to evaluate evidence.”
The DOJ launched a review of the shooting earlier this year and Holder said that they would take proper action if they had evidence of a civil rights crime.
“If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, we will take appropriate action, and at every step, the facts and law will guide us forward,” said Holder in a speech in April to Al Sharpton’s National Action Network.
But Holder had cautioned in subsequent remarks that the DOJ faces a “very high barrier” when seeking to bring federal criminal charges in such cases.
The decision to act against Zimmerman after a jury acquitted him could also put Holder again at odds with Republican lawmakers, with whom he has had a contentious relationship.
The House voted him in contempt last year after he failed to turn over documents subpoenaed in a probe of the ATF’s botched gun-tracking program, Operation Fast and Furious.
Holder has also faced congressional anger over the DOJ’s probe of journalists over national security leaks, including questions about whether he lied when testifying before Congress that he was unaware of efforts to prosecute reporters.
Holder spoke in April about the shooting death of Trayvon Martin personally, saying that “as a parent, I reacted to it.”
“This is a pain that no parent should have to endure. The notion of having to bury a child is something that is, I think in some ways for a parent, the ultimate pain,” Holder said.
“The primary responsibility we have in the Justice Department is to support the state in its ongoing investigation, to do our own thorough and parallel investigation which we are in the process of doing and try to resolve this matter in as fair and complete a way and as quickly as we can.”
George Gervin's Afro
07-14-2013, 09:54 AM
so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:25 AM
i felt like i took a time machine back to the 1950's after reading the ruling and reading/watching all the non blacks reactions after the trial, very evil shit but not surprised. i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born.
anyways.....
http://imgur.com/KE0KW.gif
Bill_Brasky
07-14-2013, 10:25 AM
so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
Scary precedent to set.
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 10:29 AM
so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
only if the guy kicking your ass is black, and esp in red-states, esp the retrograde Confederacy.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 10:40 AM
so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
Why do people keep saying this? It's amazing that scum on both sides use this to fuel their own biases and hatred. If it was that clear cut, with the support of a nation, with the support of an African American President and thousands of World famous actors and athletes, GZ would have been convicted.
The prosecution tried to argue your point and a jury found that not credible. So you need to stop saying stuff that a jury found did not happen despite immense pressure to convict in order to prove some point that does not exist.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 10:42 AM
i felt like i took a time machine back to the 1950's after reading the ruling and reading/watching all the non blacks reactions after the trial, very evil shit but not surprised. i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born.
anyways.....
http://imgur.com/KE0KW.gif
If you said that, you are setting those kids up to be losers and you would be an awful parent. Real talk. When you show them all the rich, angry black people upset about Trayvon and you make them watch the African American POTUS discuss the case, be sure to tell them there is no progress and no justice for the black man.
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 10:43 AM
"with the support of a nation, with the support of an African American President and thousands of World famous actors and athletes, GZ would have been convicted. "
none of those people had any bearing, or presence, in the court room, or on either side.
There was little hard evidence, so-so defense, shitty prosecution, and tons of blatant lies by Z who single handedly created the situation where he expressed his animus towards punk assholes, fucking niggas, young black males up to no good, and murdered one of them.
George Gervin's Afro
07-14-2013, 10:45 AM
Why do people keep saying this? It's amazing that scum on both sides use this to fuel their own biases and hatred. If it was that clear cut, with the support of a nation, with the support of an African American President and thousands of World famous actors and athletes, GZ would have been convicted.
The prosecution tried to argue your point and a jury found that not credible. So you need to stop saying stuff that a jury found did not happen despite immense pressure to convict in order to prove some point that does not exist.
I don't hate anybody. Zimmerman started it and killed him when things went south. That is a fact
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 10:45 AM
What a smug piece of shit.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:50 AM
If you said that, you are setting those kids up to be losers and you would be an awful parent. Real talk. When you show them all the rich, angry black people upset about Trayvon and you make them watch the African American POTUS discuss the case, be sure to tell them there is no progress and no justice for the black man.
stop it. so there are rich blacks and a half breed president, everything is supposed to be equal? you're being intellectually dishonest and i can't have a serious discussion about race with you.
Fabbs
07-14-2013, 10:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif.html):toast
leemajors
07-14-2013, 10:51 AM
USA Today quoted Howie Felterbush
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18tswnrbmk72hjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
leemajors
07-14-2013, 10:53 AM
stop it. so there are rich blacks and a half breed president, everything is supposed to be equal? you're being intellectually dishonest and i can't have a serious discussion about race with you.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/criminal-justice/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/
dbestpro
07-14-2013, 10:56 AM
Zimmerman is as Hispanic as Obama is black. As much as people want to make this a black and white issue it simply is not.
The only thing that you can say is in today's world when a physical fight erupts from a disagreement you must know that someone could end up dead.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 10:56 AM
stop it. so there are rich blacks and a half breed president, everything is supposed to be equal? you're being intellectually dishonest and i can't have a serious discussion about race with you.
Ok, tell them that if they savagely and heartlessly kill many dogs that they can go to jail but it's no biggie because they will get out and can still be rich beyond their wildest dreams. Because there is no justice for the black man. Tell them that there are no unsolved murders with black suspects killing other blacks because America hunts down every black and convicts them (sans OJ) even if there are no facts to support it.
Tell them this time is no different than pre-Lincoln and that they have limited opportunities and that black culture is still suppressed and not embraced by white America.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:00 AM
Ok, tell them that if they savagely and heartlessly kill many dogs that they can go to jail but it's no biggie because they will get out and can still be rich beyond their wildest dreams. Because there is no justice for the black man. Tell them that there are no unsolved murders with black suspects killing other blacks because America hunts down every black and convicts them (sans OJ) even if there are no facts to support it.
Tell them this time is no different than pre-Lincoln and that they have limited opportunities and that black culture is still suppressed and not embraced by white America.
http://i44.tinypic.com/9sy0c6.gif
i'm not telling them that sarcastic bullshit lol. but i am going to make sure they read "the new jim crow" by michelle alexander.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 11:01 AM
You just did with the "target" talk.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 11:04 AM
Stalked
Hunted down
Confronted
Minding his own business
Skittles
Ice tea
Profiled
Assumed
Assaulted
Instigated
Detained?
Repeat as necessary and you can be a state prosecutor.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:04 AM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/criminal-justice/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/
:tu interesting article and that chart is very telling
dbestpro
07-14-2013, 11:06 AM
The true injustice is that this case is that it is a token case supported by people who decry token solutions.
We go after the death of one black person with all that the government has while thousands of black deaths occur every year without a blink of an eye. All of this because it was made to be front page news. Where is the anger, the indignation for all of the these unnessessary deaths? The same people who cry racism will go back to their corner and shrug their shoulders at this injustice.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:07 AM
You just did with the "target" talk.
okay, dpg.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:12 AM
The true injustice is that this case is that it is a token case supported by people who decry token solutions.
We go after the death of one black person with all that the government has while thousands of black deaths occur every year without a blink of an eye. All of this because it was made to be front page news. Where is the anger, the indignation for all of the these unnessessary deaths? The same people who cry racism will go back to their corner and shrug their shoulders at this injustice.
i agree, something needs to be done and we need to be honest about both racism and classism. there is no anger when the black poor kill each other. the only ones enraged are the people who have to live in those communities. majority of america doesn't care, the media doesn't care and you don't care either.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 11:12 AM
The guests on Melissa Harris-Perry on MSNBC said earlier that the "no felons on a jury" law is unfair to blacks because they don't get a jury of their peers. I was going to make a joke but I don't think I can add to that.
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 11:15 AM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/criminal-justice/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/
more guns = more gun violence, more gun deaths OVER AND OVER AND OVER
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 11:18 AM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/criminal-justice/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/
but but but! 5 right-wing activist SCOTUS assholes say American is encumbered by racism, that things have changed with VRA was voted.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:25 AM
anyways, jasmine rand, esq, from the law firm of crump and parks was looking magically delicious in the courtroomhttp://i40.tinypic.com/2ic5zs2.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/29atijp.jpg
http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jasmine-rand.jpg
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 11:31 AM
anyways, jasmine rand, esq, from the law firm of crump and parks was looking magically delicious in the courtroomhttp://i40.tinypic.com/2ic5zs2.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/29atijp.jpg
http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jasmine-rand.jpg
greasebag
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:32 AM
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boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 11:36 AM
Rick Perry Reacts To Zimmerman Verdict: ‘I Think Our Justice System Is Color Blind’ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/14/2297301/rick-perry-reacts-to-zimmerman-verdict-i-think-our-justice-system-is-color-blind/)
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/14/2297301/rick-perry-reacts-to-zimmerman-verdict-i-think-our-justice-system-is-color-blind/
yep, presidential qualities from the TX bubba land.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 11:37 AM
Yeah that Jasmine girl is nice.
Thread
07-14-2013, 11:53 AM
Zimmerman is as Hispanic as Obama is black. As much as people want to make this a black and white issue it simply is not.
But, it was made b&w to sell it. Now that it ended badly Zim is now sold as Hispanic/there is no longer any % selling him as white. Now if Hussein Obama and Holder file with the DOJ Zim will turn white again.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-14-2013, 11:55 AM
The tea baggers fucked up by preemptively complaining about riots that hadn't happened yet which made the black community determined to show they can peacefully protest and gave them enough time to organize the movement. If they just stayed quiet on the issue there might have been some riots.
Thread
07-14-2013, 12:14 PM
The tea baggers fucked up by preemptively complaining about riots that hadn't happened yet which made the black community determined to show they can peacefully protest and gave them enough time to organize the movement. If they just stayed quiet on the issue there might have been some riots.
Please. They're burning in California cities. Sure, it's on the down low, but, then it ain't your police car, nor your property, eh, DUNCAN?
You lostPERIOD
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 12:21 PM
There have already been some black on white "Justice for Trayvon attacks" over the past year. About a dozen I think. Yes I could give links but you can easily find them on a search; the news just doesn't get above local.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-14-2013, 12:24 PM
Please. They're burning in California cities. Sure, it's on the down low, but, then it ain't your police car, nor your property, eh, DUNCAN?
You lostPERIOD
What did I lose exactly?
Spurminator
07-14-2013, 12:25 PM
A lot of people in the Trayvon camp are really missing the point, I think. There was never going to be enough evidence to convict Zimmerman under the law, and expecting the jury or the court to come to the decision you wanted just because that's what you think should happen makes me question whether you truly believe we should be in an innocent-til-proven-guilty society.
The real injustice here is that a kid died and there was no investigation. I'd rather 1000 George Zimmermans go free on a lack of evidence than for one person to be put in prison without being proven to belong there. This Zimmerman bloodlust needs to be redirected to more important things.
Spurminator
07-14-2013, 12:26 PM
There have already been some black on white "Justice for Trayvon attacks" over the past year. About a dozen I think. Yes I could give links but you can easily find them on a search; the news just doesn't get above local.
By "local" I assume you mean fringe right wing blogs with dubious sources.
Either way, pretty clear that the fear of racially motivated violence around this case has far outweighed the actual incidents.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-14-2013, 12:35 PM
A lot of people in the Trayvon camp are really missing the point, I think. There was never going to be enough evidence to convict Zimmerman under the law, and expecting the jury or the court to come to the decision you wanted just because that's what you think should happen makes me question whether you truly believe we should be in an innocent-til-proven-guilty society.
The real injustice here is that a kid died and there was no investigation. I'd rather 1000 George Zimmermans go free on a lack of evidence than for one person to be put in prison without being proven to belong there. This Zimmerman bloodlust needs to be redirected to more important things.
This.
Even though he ended up free, and even though if I had to bet on it I'd say Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense, Zimmerman was on trial when he never should have been after the police didn't collect nearly enough evidence. Introducing manslaughter was also something that shouldn't be allowed, the DA shouldn't be able to overcharge for a conviction he had no chance at getting then go back and reintroduce the crime he should have gone with from the get go. The only outrage here should be directed at the way it was handled.
mingus
07-14-2013, 12:37 PM
Scary precedent to set.
That's stupid. GZ was a moron who followed and profiled a kid, but he meant to harm. TM was wrong in thinking that he had to kick his ass for that. That the jury unanimously agreed is not surprising seeing how it would have been a scarier precedent to justify TM's actions. GZ's actions did not justify an ass-beating. The non-thug jury apparently saw that.
BradLohaus
07-14-2013, 12:38 PM
Here's some from the first page of a search
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126003/Trayvon-Martin-case-6-youths-beat-man-78-twisted-racial-revenge-
attack.http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0426/Trayvon-Martin-case-sparks-of-racial-violence-appearhtml
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120409/ARTICLES/120409617/1182?Title=Man-tells-police-group-yelled-8216-Trayvon-then-beat-him
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/27/arrest-in-matthew-owens-beating_n_1459094.html
i agree, something needs to be done and we need to be honest about both racism and classism. there is no anger when the black poor kill each other. the only ones enraged are the people who have to live in those communities. majority of america doesn't care, the media doesn't care and you don't care either.
hmm...interstingly enough, lots of hip hop glorifies niggs offing each other with no remorse and not taking shit from no one. You can start by not supporting that.
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 12:40 PM
:lol breitbart. you are like right wing boutons.
":lol breitbart" doesn't make it untrue. Care to dispute the claims in the article?
Chomag
07-14-2013, 12:41 PM
Some of you guys disagree with the verdict the jury chose, but he was judged and found not guilty by a jury of peers, you should really find a way to try to get over it. Do you really want us to do away with the jury and go back to lynch mob type of justice?
If trails were decided by public opinion we would all be in trouble, be you White, African American, Indian, Jewish, Muslim, blue, green, purple, etc...
Dont people think things through anymore?
This should have never went to trial, there was never enough if any evidence that showed He was guilty, but the media just had to blow it out of proportion and make it a racial thing.
Thread
07-14-2013, 12:44 PM
What did I lose exactly?
Nothin'. Forget it. You're never wrong. I just forgot for a moment.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 12:48 PM
hmm...interstingly enough, lots of hip hop glorifies niggs offing each other with no remorse and not taking shit from no one. You can start by not supporting that.
same can be said for violent films and television shows. its bigger than artistic expression, doggie.
Chomag
07-14-2013, 12:55 PM
so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
Go try it and let us know how it turns out.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 01:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3og0JaKAbZw
http://news.rapgenius.com/Dead-prez-wolves-lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3og0JaKAbZw
http://news.rapgenius.com/Dead-prez-wolves-lyrics
:lol Im confused. Does this fall under artistic expression, or am I supposed to take this song literally?
SpursFan86
07-14-2013, 01:41 PM
Someone here give me hard evidence that this was a racist act. I'm sick and tired of people claiming they "know" Zimmerman was a racist who just wanted to profile a black kid.
First off, he NEVER used the words "nigga" or "coon". If he did, it certainly would've been brought up by the prosecutor.
Secondly, him saying "they always get away" is not racist. "They" could just be referring to teenage punks who are (presumedly) committing a crime. You have no proof that Zimmerman was specifically referring to black people and instead you're just assuming such because you feel that blacks have a "target on their back". Are their racist people out there? Of course. Does that mean every time someone is suspicious of a black person that it's an act of racism and profiling? No. I'm white and I've been accused of looking suspicious before. I don't know why people are acting like they KNOW Zimmerman wouldn't have found Martin to be suspicious if he were white/Mexican/Asian/etc
Third, Zimmerman isn't white. He's Mexican. If this country is really as racist as you all make it out to be, wouldn't they want to send the Mexican guy to jail? Do you think Mexicans are viewed as better than black people? If so, what makes you think that? I'm curious about your thought process here.
Y'all are seriously asking for someone to be sent to jail for 25 years to life based off assumptions, and it's absurd. Let's go through what we KNOW (AKA what should be used in a trial to convict someone):
1) Zimmerman saw Martin, and for a reason unbeknownst to us, found him suspicious looking.
2) Zimmerman reported the suspicion, and instead of listening to the responder, he continued to follow him. While this was a bad decision, it is not illegal to do so.
3) At some point, Zimmerman and Martin got into a physical altercation. We do not know for sure who started the physical aspect of it. If you have proof that Zimmerman/Martin threw a first punch or tackled the other, please show me.
4) During the physical altercation, Martin ended up on top of Zimmerman and was punching him/banging his head against the concrete. How do we know this? Forensics determined this scenario to be consistent with the wounds Zimmerman had and the bullet wound that Trayvon Martin had. Experts testified to this.
5) Zimmerman claims he feared for his life and shot Martin out of self-defense.
So where in that scenario does this turn into an undeniable 2nd degree murder? How can you say that there is NO reasonable doubt, at all, that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation or wasn't shooting out of self-defense? In America it isn't "guilty until proven innocent" (despite the media treating it as such). The defendant is assumed to be innocent until the prosecutor can PROVE WITHOUT ANY REASONABLE DOUBT that he's guilty.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 01:48 PM
:lol Im confused. Does this fall under artistic expression, or am I supposed to take this song literally?
huh? its not a song. i already responded to your post about hip hop.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Niottlibg
boobie4three
07-14-2013, 02:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxATnobG_Y8
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:11 PM
be sure to watch 'Fruitvale Station' the story of Oscar Grant on July 26th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRlu1Dsc39I
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 02:24 PM
The tea baggers fucked up by preemptively complaining about riots that hadn't happened yet which made the black community determined to show they can peacefully protest and gave them enough time to organize the movement. If they just stayed quiet on the issue there might have been some riots.
Then they mind-funked the people to get the desired outcome
huh? its not a song. i already responded to your post about hip hop.
I didnt click the YouTube link. I clicked the link that said "lyrics".
At what point do you stop blaming other all the time for your issues?
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 02:27 PM
same can be said for violent films and television shows. its bigger than artistic expression, doggie.
:lmao except after the movie is done, the actors drop the "thug life" act and go back to being normal humans. They don't get millions of dollars, glorify the killing of their own kind and continually put themselves in that life even after their job is done.
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 02:35 PM
The Trills and Creepns of the world ate the media created racist shit up.
It all started with the anchor of a major television network (Al Sharpton) inserting himself in the story to spread division and hate; it continued straight through to the closing days of the trial when another major news network, desperate to keep a fabricated racial narrative alive, propagated the portrayal of Zimmerman as part of a racial group that doesn't exist -- the "white Hispanic."
In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.
February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin
Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.
March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"
The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.
Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.
March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative
Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:
Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”
Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...
...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]”
The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.
March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"
About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.
Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."
Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.
March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White
A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.
Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.
In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.
Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."
March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times
Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."
March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "F**king Coon"
Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.
This has to be watched to be believed.
CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.
March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida
Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.
With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:
At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."
He continued:
"We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"
Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.
"We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.
March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point
The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."
In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.
March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"
To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.
Many others would follow.
March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist
On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."
Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.
March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting
The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombshell, ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."
Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.
The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.
It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood.
March 28, 2012 - Boston Globe Falsely Describes Zimmerman as White
By late March it was widely known that George Zimmerman was Hispanic. This did not stop the Boston Globe from using its pages to describe him as "a white neighborhood watch captain."
This error has never been corrected.
March 29, 2012 - NBC's Chris Matthews Contradicts Guest to Claim Zimmerman Not Injured
By the next day, ABC's false story about Zimmerman not being injured had already gone viral. However, some were already doing the job ABC apparently didn't want to do: enhancing the video. A guest on MSNBC's Hardball told the show's host, Chris Matthews, that his enhancement did show bruises on the back of Zimmerman's head. MSNBC even broadcast the enhancement, which clearly showed cuts and bruising.
Regardless, during the same show, Matthews stridently claimed:
George Zimmerman says he shot Trayvon Martin after Trayvon broke his nose and repeatedly slammed the back of his head into a concrete sidewalk, but newly released video tape of Zimmerman arriving at the police station--we're looking at it there--appears to show no evidence of a broken nose or obvious wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head.
Late March, 2012 - Zimmerman's "Black Friend" Vilified by Media
Even though Zimmerman is Hispanic and there was no evidence of any racial motivation behind his actions, the media's racial-hysteria was, at this point, in full bloom. To try and tamp things down, Joe Oliver, a black reporter who had worked with CNN and an Orlando television station, started doing the national media interview rounds to speak on behalf of his friend, George Zimmerman.
The counterattack in the media (CNN, New York Times, and MSNBC, among others) was exceptionally vicious, personal, and effective.
Oliver went away.
April 1, 2012 - The New York Times Maliciously Edits Zimmerman's 911 Call
Although the NBC News malicious edit of Zimmerman's 911 call broadcast on the Today Show had already been loudly and publicly debunked, days later the New York Times did the same thing on its front page.
By rearranging the words of the call, the Times falsely made it look as though Zimmerman had profiled Trayvon as black:
Here is the 911 call transcript:
ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
911 DISPATCHER: Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?
ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.
And here is what the Times reported:
“Hey, we’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood,” Mr. Zimmerman said to start the conversation with the dispatcher. “And there’s a real suspicious guy.”
This guy seemed to be up to no good; like he was on drugs or something; in a gray hoodie. Asked to describe him further, he said, “He looks black.”
The print edition of the story was even worse than the online edition.
April 9, 2012 - PBS Anchor Gwen Ifill Describes Zimmerman as "White"
Desperate to keep a non-existent racial narrative alive, during a broadcast of the PBS Newshour Gwen Ifill falsely stated:
Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation.
Note Ifill's reporting of Zimmerman's gated community. The condos in Zimmerman's neighborhood sell for about $120,000.
April 11, 2012 - George Zimmerman Is Arrested, Charged with Second Degree Murder
After the arrest, and as the trial date neared the following year, NBC would allow Al Sharpton to turn his primetime MSNBC show into a platform dedicated to convicting Zimmerman.
CNN would continue to refer to Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" and broadcast all of Zimmerman's personal information, including his social security number, address, and telephone number.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:40 PM
I didnt click the YouTube link. I clicked the link that said "lyrics".
At what point do you stop blaming other all the time for your issues?
huh????!!!!???? i live a good life, doggie. beautiful family, a brother playing professional basketball, everyone is college educated in my family. its the millions of blacks living in poverty that i have an issue with. the fact that the young latino and black brothers in that video are being harassed and profiled at 9 years old for nothing.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:42 PM
:lmao except after the movie is done, the actors drop the "thug life" act and go back to being normal humans. They don't get millions of dollars, glorify the killing of their own kind and continually put themselves in that life even after their job is done.
intellectually dishonest post^^^^^^
HI-FI
07-14-2013, 02:42 PM
i felt like i took a time machine back to the 1950's after reading the ruling and reading/watching all the non blacks reactions after the trial, very evil shit but not surprised. i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born.
anyways.....
http://imgur.com/KE0KW.gif
so were you this upset when OJ was free? You remember how he brutally killed 2 people in cold blood, premeditated with tons of evidence, yet he walked and lots of blacks celebrated. Did that case piss you off as well, any lessons for your nephews on dat one?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:44 PM
rosa parks wasn't the first black person to refuse to move to the back of the bus but it sparked a movement, it created a tipping point. hopefully this tragedy of a teen being forced into a situation beyond his level of maturity will have the same impact.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 02:45 PM
"i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born."
preaching hate, sup al sharpton
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:46 PM
so were you this upset when OJ was free?
http://i39.tinypic.com/2lus9pe.pngfool i was in elementary school when that happened. as an adult, yes oj should have been locked the fuck up but just like this case, there was no sufficient evidence to convict him. the justice system is flawed.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:48 PM
"i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born."
preaching hate, sup al sharpton
preaching reality, scrote.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 02:50 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2lus9pe.pngfool i was in elementary school when that happened. as an adult, yes oj should have been locked the fuck up but just like this case, there was no sufficient evidence to convict him. the justice system is flawed.
Intellectually dishonest post. Then where were all these Trayvon supporters before this? This isn't about they system. This is about having your mind made up then being upset you didn't get the blood you want. Your mentality of "we are a target" proves this.
You saying "movies are the same as the rap songs" proves this as well. Unless you are saying those guys are all fake and just lie to sell records, they glorify the life style and rap about getting away with crimes all the time. Why are they mad now?
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 02:53 PM
Here's some from the first page of a search
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126003/Trayvon-Martin-case-6-youths-beat-man-78-twisted-racial-revenge-
attack.http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0426/Trayvon-Martin-case-sparks-of-racial-violence-appearhtml
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120409/ARTICLES/120409617/1182?Title=Man-tells-police-group-yelled-8216-Trayvon-then-beat-him
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/27/arrest-in-matthew-owens-beating_n_1459094.html
Not one word from trill. Hmmmm.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Intellectually dishonest post. Then where were all these Trayvon supporters before this? This isn't about they system. This is about having your mind made up then being upset you didn't get the blood you want. Your mentality of "we are a target" proves this.
You saying "movies are the same as the rap songs" proves this as well. Unless you are saying those guys are all fake and just lie to sell records, they glorify the life style and rap about getting away with crimes all the time. Why are they mad now?
dpg, the media took this story and made it national news, just like rosa parks. she wasn't the first person to refuse her seat and trayvon wasn't the first black male to be murdered but both caught media attention and one caused a movement. lets see if this one will do the same.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:56 PM
Not one word from trill. Hmmmm.
i can post links, articles and youtube vids of blacks being murdered by police as well. matter of fact i already did and it was quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton, so.....
HI-FI
07-14-2013, 02:57 PM
Truth is if Trayvon had common sense he would most likely be alive and suing Zimmerman's ass. Common sense tells you not to dress like a thug while walking around a neighborhood at night. Every night I walk or jog around my neighborhood, I always dress in white clothes so people don't freak out. I'm white as shit but its the reasonable thing to do. Cops still will slow down to check me out, even had to show ID once and explain where I lived. I realize its suspicious so I try to not make it look worse than it is by dressing like a thug or asshole.
Of course common sense would tell you not to bring skittles to a gun fight, so sorry if I don't see this case as Rosa Parks:The Next Generation.
huh????!!!!???? i live a good life, doggie. beautiful family, a brother playing professional basketball, everyone is college educated in my family. its the millions of blacks living in poverty that i have an issue with. the fact that the young latino and black brothers in that video are being harassed and profiled at 9 years old for nothing.
aren't there millions of whites living in poverty too? Its just a bunch of excuses man.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 02:58 PM
dpg, the media took this story and made it national news, just like rosa parks. she wasn't the first person to refuse her seat and trayvon wasn't the first black male to be murdered but both caught media attention and one caused a movement. lets see if this one will do the same.
:lol What movement? There is a two-term Black President. Blacks are flourishing in America. There are rich black CEO's, Head Coaches, Athletes, Actors and Musicians. There are more black on black crimes than racially motivated ones. Maybe if you stopped acting like things are as they were in slavery times and start realizing the problem is your mindset in addition to blacks killing each other, the real progress can be made.
Just because the media makes something national news does not give you an excuse to act like an idiot. How about you stop being so easily trolled and baited and start rising above the muck? Oh wait, everyone is holding you down. SMDH.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:58 PM
i'm about to go to the gun range and get some shots in. hopefully when i get back we can have some honest discussions instead of trying to crack jokes or be intellectually dishonest. non blacks have a hard time discussing race and that's a problem. its okay to talk about it, just be honest and have an open mind.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 02:59 PM
:lol What movement? There is a two-term Black President. Blacks are flourishing in America. There are rich black CEO's, Head Coaches, Athletes, Actors and Musicians. There are more black on black crimes than racially motivated ones. Maybe if you stopped acting like things are as they were in slavery times and start realizing the problem is your mindset in addition to blacks killing each other, the real progress can be made.
Just because the media makes something national news does not give you an excuse to act like an idiot. How about you stop being so easily trolled and baited and start rising above the muck? Oh wait, everyone is holding you down. SMDH.
blacks are flourishing in america? i'm done talking to you, doggie.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 03:01 PM
Truth is if Trayvon had common sense he would most likely be alive and suing Zimmerman's ass. Common sense tells you not to dress like a thug while walking around a neighborhood at night. Every night I walk or jog around my neighborhood, I always dress in white clothes so people don't freak out. I'm white as shit but its the reasonable thing to do. Cops still will slow down to check me out, even had to show ID once and explain where I lived. I realize its suspicious so I try to not make it look worse than it is by dressing like a thug or asshole.
Of course common sense would tell you not to bring skittles to a gun fight, so sorry if I don't see this case as Rosa Parks:The Next Generation.
True. Is it right to be profiled? No, but there are a lot of bad people doing bad things, it's not about race. People should be suspicious because they have a lot on the line. People should use common sense too as you mentioned and be self aware of what things may look like.
No bullshi*t, I, DPG just got profiled by a white cop last week. I was in my work clothes, waiting in my car in a parking lot (I had a meeting in this building and was early so I was returning e-mails) and the cop drove by me twice, then stopped next to me the third time. Knocked on my window and said "is there something you are doing just sitting here?" He said he wanted to know why I was sitting in my car in the back of the parking lot. I was in my work clothes. Instead of being a jerk, I just told him the truth and he said that's fine.
I swear that is 100% true.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 03:04 PM
blacks are flourishing in america? i'm done talking to you, doggie.
They aren't? What are you trying to say? This isn't slavery days. Not even close. The leader of the free world is a Black man. That's progress and I would consider that flourishing. The fact blacks are still offing each other more than any other race is on them. That does not mean the black man or woman in this country, with the proper effort (like any other human) is not and cannot do extremely well for themselves. The Black culture is flourishing too. It's everywhere. White kids want to be black. Black athletes are revered and making millions in major company endorsements. I don't see your argument.
Fabbs
07-14-2013, 03:15 PM
huh????!!!!???? i live a good life, doggie. beautiful family, a brother playing professional basketball, everyone is college educated in my family.
:lol 2/10 on the troll scale.
Good laugher tho.
i'm about to go to the gun range and get some shots in. hopefully when i get back we can have some honest discussions instead of trying to crack jokes or be intellectually dishonest. non blacks have a hard time discussing race and that's a problem. its okay to talk about it, just be honest and have an open mind.
This is such bullshit and you know it. When all else fails, play the "you can't talk about race cuz your not black" card. Later maing.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
sad day of ownage for the st militant coon clique. at least they can log off and go back to being white tho..feels good man
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
i can post links, articles and youtube vids of blacks being murdered by police as well. matter of fact i already did and it was quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton, so.....
What does the fact you can post vids have anything to do with those lanks? That's exactly people's point. You aren't a champion for equality, you are a champion for only you doggie and that is the only thing holding people back. It's sad and makes me fear the worst for this country.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 03:22 PM
sad day of ownage for the st militant coon clique. at least they can log off and go back to being white tho..feels good man
Shut up. You are the biggest idiot on the site right now.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Shut up. You are the biggest idiot on the site right now.
cnn trained you well comrade!
angrydude
07-14-2013, 03:29 PM
It's sad because I think a lot of people, myself included, would admit that our justice is pretty racist and can otherwise sympathize with the plight of blacks in America.
The problems is black people decided to get upset about the WRONG DAMN CASE.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Then they mind-funked the people to get the desired outcome
I don't think that was their desired outcome tbh. I think they were hoping the black community would make an ass of itself with Rodney King type riots.
Creepn
07-14-2013, 03:46 PM
I don't think that was their desired outcome tbh. I think they were hoping the black community would make an ass of itself with Rodney King type riots.
Of course. Just another type of presumption against black people that turned out to be nothing. Just like the zimmerman/martin situation.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 03:51 PM
Of course. Just another type of presumption against black people that turned out to be nothing. Just like the zimmerman/martin situation.
hi welcome back do you feel better now?
George Gervin's Afro
07-14-2013, 04:34 PM
fox news is probably the biggest loser in all of this because there were not any race riots... the website has a picture of something burning..lol
FuzzyLumpkins
07-14-2013, 04:47 PM
Zimmerman was acquitted because he killed Martin alone in the dark where no one could see what went on to lead up to the fight and because FL self defense and gun laws are poorly thought out to say the least. You should have to prove that you acted in self defense not the other way around.
Claiming that there is a conspiracy against black people is stupid especially in light of events leading up to the indictment. Blaming the jury is tin hat bullshit akin to what SA210 does.
You have to love how the GOP, a political party, and their mouthpieces are claiming that the president is politicizing this when that is all they have been doing for the last 48 hours nonstop. I especially liked the brietbart piece where they show an AP mistake and grandstand when a bunch of carriers quickly repeat the mistake. It should be required to understand what a news cycle is before commenting on the news media. It's like giving an untrained man a gun and assigning him a beat. Stupid shit is bound to happen.
DPG, you s lecturing of Trill on how black's are 'flourishing' is hilarious. Then I look at the real world SES stats on education, poverty, health, jobs, and income disparity and realize that poorly thought out memes dont mean very much.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-grace-explodes-at-zimmerman-friend-are-you-gonna-pull-a-ouija-board-out-of-your-pants/
Nancy Grace Explodes At Zimmerman Friend: Are You Gonna Pull A Ouija Board Out Of Your Pants?!
What a woman! :lol
boobie4three
07-14-2013, 05:22 PM
Trill on his way home from the gun range.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/Black-Dynamite-With-Gun_zps029f61c6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/Black-Dynamite-With-Gun_zps029f61c6.jpg.html)
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 05:27 PM
Justice Department mulls if further action possible in Zimmerman case
The Justice Department said on Sunday it is evaluating whether it has enough evidence to support further prosecution of George Zimmerman in federal court in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, and whether it can do so after Zimmerman was acquitted in a Florida state court.
"Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction," a Justice Department spokesman said in a statement, "and whether federal prosecution is appropriate in accordance with the department's policy governing successive federal prosecution following a state trial."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/14/us-usa-florida-shooting-justice-idUSBRE96D0D520130714?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews
boobie4three
07-14-2013, 05:35 PM
Justice Department mulls if further action possible in Zimmerman case
The Justice Department said on Sunday it is evaluating whether it has enough evidence to support further prosecution of George Zimmerman in federal court in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, and whether it can do so after Zimmerman was acquitted in a Florida state court.
"Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction," a Justice Department spokesman said in a statement, "and whether federal prosecution is appropriate in accordance with the department's policy governing successive federal prosecution following a state trial."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/14/us-usa-florida-shooting-justice-idUSBRE96D0D520130714?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews
Won't happen or SHOULDN'T happen anyway. Last year the DOJ said this didn't appear to be a racially motivated crime. Also, the prosecution during the trial flat out said: "This case is not about race". That being said, who knows what the Community Agitator in Chief will tell Eric Holder what to do.
2centsworth
07-14-2013, 05:43 PM
Zimmerman was acquitted because he killed Martin alone in the dark where no one could see what went on to lead up to the fight and because FL self defense and gun laws are poorly thought out to say the least. You should have to prove that you acted in self defense not the other way around.
You're not advocating guilty until proven innocent are you? I support letting 100 guilty men free than sending 1 innocent man to jail. http://www.innocenceproject.org/
Claiming that there is a conspiracy against black people is stupid especially in light of events leading up to the indictment. Blaming the jury is tin hat bullshit
agree
You have to love how the GOP, a political party, and their mouthpieces are claiming that the president is politicizing this when that is all they have been doing for the last 48 hours nonstop. I especially liked the brietbart piece where they show an AP mistake and grandstand when a bunch of carriers quickly repeat the mistake. It should be required to understand what a news cycle is before commenting on the news media. It's like giving an untrained man a gun and assigning him a beat. Stupid shit is bound to happen.
Only way to change both parties is for those within those parties to call each other out. You should call out Obama for his "my son would look like Trayvon" comment and the board Republicans should call out brietbart. Dems calling out Republicans and vice versa accomplishes nothing except keep politicos rich and in power.
DPG, you s lecturing of Trill on how black's are 'flourishing' is hilarious. Then I look at the real world SES stats on education, poverty, health, jobs, and income disparity and realize that poorly thought out memes dont mean very much.
Help me see the relevance to this case?
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 06:30 PM
Truth is if Trayvon had common sense he would most likely be alive and suing Zimmerman's ass. Common sense tells you not to dress like a thug while walking around a neighborhood at night. Every night I walk or jog around my neighborhood, I always dress in white clothes so people don't freak out. I'm white as shit but its the reasonable thing to do. .
common sense :lol. wow stfu
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 06:33 PM
Not guilty of all charges.
gee.
I'm shocked!
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 07:50 PM
Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.
I'm out.
:lmao
classic gold!
:lmao
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 08:01 PM
:lmao @ Fuzzylogics incredible mathematical analytical skills and he still couldn't get that 2+2 still =4
analytical skills :lmao
NOT FUCKING GUILTY!
SUCK IT BITCH!
:lmao
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 08:04 PM
i felt like i took a time machine back to the 1950's after reading the ruling and reading/watching all the non blacks reactions after the trial, very evil shit but not surprised. i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born.
No, you tell your little brothers that if they can learn to act like civilized human beings instead of stupid ghetto gangsta punks they can grow up to be the President of The United States one day.
Don't excuse your stupid shit behind US institutional racism when we just elected a black guy for two consecutive terms in the US.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 08:12 PM
The guests on Melissa Harris-Perry on MSNBC said earlier that the "no felons on a jury" law is unfair to blacks because they don't get a jury of their peers. I was going to make a joke but I don't think I can add to that.
:lmao
missed that
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:12 PM
No, you tell your little brothers that if they can learn to act like civilized human beings instead of stupid ghetto gangsta punks they can grow up to be the President of The United States one day.
Don't excuse your stupid shit behind US institutional racism when we just elected a black guy for two consecutive terms in the US.
man shut your old ass up lol. obama is half white and half black, fuck outta here.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:15 PM
half white
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:15 PM
shame that a 55 year old man is acting like a little kid, laughing his ass off, that a child killer/pedophile was found not guilty.
hehateme
07-14-2013, 08:32 PM
Serious question to Trill and Creepn here.
Why isn't the NAACP asking the federal govt. to file a civil suit against it's own race in regards to the case against the man who beat the holy shit out of a white woman while being filmed? Wouldn't that also fall into the lines of trying to end racial insinuation of the same type of violence? Is the NAACP really trying to condone an action in one case and not call out the same type of action from their own race?
If anyone needs a refresher I am referring to this:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/02/19251258-suspect-in-nanny-cam-beating-pleads-not-guilty?litetion of the same type of violence?
No, you tell your little brothers that if they can learn to act like civilized human beings instead of stupid ghetto gangsta punks they can grow up to be the President of The United States one day.
Don't excuse your stupid shit behind US institutional racism when we just elected a black guy for two consecutive terms in the US.
robinlopez.gif
shame that a 55 year old man is acting like a little kid, laughing his ass off, that a child killer/pedophile was found not guilty.
Team Whitey 1, Team Blacky 0
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 08:36 PM
half white
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
mojorizen7
07-14-2013, 08:36 PM
:lol What movement? There is a two-term Black President. Blacks are flourishing in America. There are rich black CEO's, Head Coaches, Athletes, Actors and Musicians. There are more black on black crimes than racially motivated ones. Maybe if you stopped acting like things are as they were in slavery times and start realizing the problem is your mindset in addition to blacks killing each other, the real progress can be made.
Just because the media makes something national news does not give you an excuse to act like an idiot.
Not personally directed to you Trill,but this post should be a billboard on every street corner in America.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 08:42 PM
shame that a 55 year old man is acting like a little kid, laughing his ass off, that a child killer/pedophile was found not guilty.
There was never a case to be made. They simply didn't have the facts to make a case. We have a legal system, not a justice system. Zimmerman was legally innocent as I have been telling you over and over since the case details started trickling out. The only thing the prosecution could hope for was that they by some miracle got 6 stupid hysterical bitches like you on the jury.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:48 PM
George Zimmerman defense team responds to cousin’s molestation claims
The Lookout Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News Jul 16, 2012[Updated at 5:30 p.m. EDT]A family friend of George Zimmerman told investigators he sexually molested her on and off for nearly a decade, newly released audio tapes in the Trayvon Martin shooting case reveal."He would reach under the blankets and try to do things," the woman—identified as Witness 9—told investigators.Zimmerman's defense team later identified the unnamed woman as his cousin and said they plan to file "reciprocal discovery" in the coming weeks."Now that this statement is part of the public record, the defense will vigorously defend Mr. Zimmerman against the allegations," they said on a website dedicated to Zimmerman's defense.The accuser said the molestation occurred at Zimmerman's parents' house when they were growing up."I would try to push him off, but he was bigger, stronger and older," she said during the interview conducted on March 20, less than a month after the Feb. 26 shooting. The woman, who contacted prosecutors after Martin's killing, said she was 6 and Zimmerman was 8 when the alleged molestation began. It continued until she was 16, she said.Investigators asked the woman why she was coming forward now. "This is the first time in my life that I'm not afraid of him," she replied.The woman also told state investigators that she anonymously called Sanford police after Martin's death."I was afraid that he may have done something because the kid was black," the woman says on the recordings. She said she had no direct knowledge of the shooting death, but wanted police to know Zimmerman had made negative comments about blacks when they were growing up.As for the molestation allegations, her family would get together with Zimmerman's at least once a year, she said. "Every time that we would go up there, I could just look at him and he would give me a certain look and I would just know it was going to happen when we got together for family gatherings. ... He just got this look in his eye like he was going to [molest me]."The woman said she was not the only victim. "It's not just me that he would do these things to," she told investigators. But the other alleged victim would never come forward, Witness 9 said, declining to give investigators her name: "She said she would deny it either way."Georgie, she said, would tell her to tell others that they were just lying down or playing hide-n-seek. "Georgie just sucked up to my dad," she said. "He was like the son he never had."The audio was released on Monday along with dozens of recordings from phone calls Zimmerman made while behind bars in April. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara fought until the last minute to keep the recordings from Witness 9 a secret, but Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ruled the evidence is public information and ordered them to be made available."This irrelevant statement should be withheld from public dissemination because of the substantial risk that public disclosure will lead to widespread hostile publicity which would substantially impair the Defendant's fair trial rights, and would pose a serious threat to the administration of justice," the defense said on its website.Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death."He was very charming and personable with everybody in the family," the woman said of Zimmerman. "But he was different behind closed doors with me. ... He was very intimidating."She said one of the last incidents occurred when she was 16. Zimmerman, who had graduated from high school and moved to Florida with his family, massaged and kissed her, causing her to run out of the home. The woman said she eventually quit attending family functions if she thought he was going to be there."I couldn't take it," she said. "I didn't want to be around him anymore."She said she eventually told her sister about her encounters with Zimmerman. The sister then told their parents.The alleged victim said she and her parents tried to discuss the abuse with Zimmerman at a Lake Mary, Fla., restaurant in 2005. "He said, 'I'm sorry' and just got up and walked out."
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:49 PM
inb4 the victim blamin
inb4 championing a pedo
FuzzyLumpkins
07-14-2013, 08:49 PM
You're not advocating guilty until proven innocent are you? I support letting 100 guilty men free than sending 1 innocent man to jail. http://www.innocenceproject.org/
agree
Only way to change both parties is for those within those parties to call each other out. You should call out Obama for his "my son would look like Trayvon" comment and the board Republicans should call out brietbart. Dems calling out Republicans and vice versa accomplishes nothing except keep politicos rich and in power.
Help me see the relevance to this case?
I am arguing that the state shouldn't have to prove that you didn't shoot someone in self defense. The state should have to prove that you killed someone and at that point it is up to you to prove that you had good cause. Most every state is like that but Florida is the one with weird self defense laws.
There ws never any question as to Zimmerman killing Martin. That is where presumption should lie: we cannot assume that someone killed another. The self defense provision is an extenuating circumstance that exempts one from the crime they committed. It should not be assumed that you had a valid reason to commit a crime.
When boutox et al starts posting Obama comments as germane then you let me know
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:50 PM
Not personally directed to you Trill,but this post should be a billboard on every street corner in America.
that post was intellectually dishonest.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:52 PM
Serious question to Trill and Creepn here.
Why isn't the NAACP asking the federal govt. to file a civil suit against it's own race in regards to the case against the man who beat the holy shit out of a white woman while being filmed? Wouldn't that also fall into the lines of trying to end racial insinuation of the same type of violence? Is the NAACP really trying to condone an action in one case and not call out the same type of action from their own race?
If anyone needs a refresher I am referring to this:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/02/19251258-suspect-in-nanny-cam-beating-pleads-not-guilty?litetion of the same type of violence?
this question makes zero sense. you are being intellectually dishonest.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:53 PM
i'm like pootie tang the way i'm dodging these weak stones y'all throwing at me
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/65963/pootie-tang-o.gif
hehateme
07-14-2013, 08:55 PM
this question makes zero sense. you are being intellectually dishonest.
The question makes perfect sense. You are just another lemming following the pack over the cliff. Walk little doggie.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 08:58 PM
There was never a case to be made. They simply didn't have the facts to make a case. We have a legal system, not a justice system. Zimmerman was legally innocent as I have been telling you over and over since the case details started trickling out. The only thing the prosecution could hope for was that they by some miracle got 6 stupid hysterical bitches like you on the jury.
i know you're getting up there in age and your memory is starting to turn its back on you, just like ya hairline. but in case you forget, let me remind you that i said several times that the prosecution dropped the ball with murder 2 and all i can hope for is a miracle and a civil suit. now go and praise your pedo child killer shrine.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:01 PM
can i get a robinlopez.gif on that "memory turning its back on you like ya hairline" zinger. that was pretty damn good.http://i42.tinypic.com/15aipf.png
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 09:02 PM
can i get a robinlopez.gif on that "memory turning its back on you like ya hairline" zinger. that was pretty damn good.http://i42.tinypic.com/15aipf.png
Wow, making jokes and caring about winning e battles during a time like this?
2centsworth
07-14-2013, 09:06 PM
I am arguing that the state shouldn't have to prove that you didn't shoot someone in self defense. The state should have to prove that you killed someone and at that point it is up to you to prove that you had good cause. Most every state is like that but Florida is the one with weird self defense laws.
There ws never any question as to Zimmerman killing Martin. So if you kill someone it should automatically be presumed that you're a murderer?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:07 PM
Wow, making jokes and caring about winning e battles during a time like this?
how should i act in a time like this, dude? i don't care about winning battles. I didn't say "blacks 1 , whites 0". i'm not taking a tally, doggie.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:09 PM
dpg didn't quote the racists who spent the past 24 hours celebrating the not guilty verdict of the pedo as much as he's quoted me todayhttp://i40.tinypic.com/aaiyza.png
FuzzyLumpkins
07-14-2013, 09:11 PM
So if you kill someone it should automatically be presumed that you're a murderer?
If you intentionally cause someone to die then you should have to justify why you did it.
DPG21920
07-14-2013, 09:13 PM
:lmao I have always been one of the more vocal posters about racism on this site and have called out numerous people (which people will tell you). I also called (just one page ago) the biggest racist on this site out and told him to shut up. Me quoting you shows you how bad you are acting (you know what you are doing which is trolling, but you still get me sometimes).
You don't respond anything about blacks getting revenge because of this on innocent whites and instead get defensive and say you can post links to blacks getting mistreated as if that has any relevance on the other posts. Hmmmmm.
Oh, Gee!!
07-14-2013, 09:14 PM
So if you kill someone it should automatically be presumed that you're a murderer?
that's pretty much how most states (even florida) view intentional killings. that's what trials are for tbh.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:16 PM
i know you're getting up there in age and your memory is starting to turn its back on you, just like ya hairline. but in case you forget, let me remind you that i said several times that the prosecution dropped the ball with murder 2 and all i can hope for is a miracle and a civil suit. now go and praise your pedo child killer shrine.
Again your ignorance is showing. Zimmerman should be immune from a civil suit. If he is found not guilty under 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 of Florida laws, then that satisfies the immunity requirement.
You are just funny as shit Trill. Butthurt are we?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:16 PM
:lmao I have always been one of the more vocal posters about racism on this site and have called out numerous people (which people will tell you). I also called (just one page ago) the biggest racist on this site out and told him to shut up. Me quoting you shows you how bad you are acting (you know what you are doing which is trolling, but you still get me sometimes).
You don't respond anything about blacks getting revenge because of this on innocent whites and instead get defensive and say you can post links to blacks getting mistreated as if that has any relevance on the other posts. Hmmmmm.
what do you want me to say? i don't applaud blacks taking their frustrations out on innocent whites, hispanics, asians, etc. i also do applaud innocent blacks, mainly men, being killed either.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:17 PM
Again your ignorance is showing. Zimmerman should be immune from a civil suit. If he is found not guilty under 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 of Florida laws, then that satisfies the immunity requirement.
your ignorance is showing as well.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/14/us/martin-family-legal-paths/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Oh, Gee!!
07-14-2013, 09:19 PM
Again your ignorance is showing. Zimmerman should be immune from a civil suit. If he is found not guilty under 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 of Florida laws, then that satisfies the immunity requirement.
no, the civil suit will be a lower burden of proof. he can't be tried again for murder or manslaughter in Florida, but he can be sued for the loss of life. he can even face federal, criminal charges
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:21 PM
your ignorance is showing as well.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/14/us/martin-family-legal-paths/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
:lmao
CNN getting it wrong again. Florida isn't California.
You are such a fucking tool.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:22 PM
salute to martin bashir. trayvon's parents haven held their heads up high through this entire trial and been all class all the time, even when people like rhinestonecowboy assassinate his character by calling him "ghetto"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HhTZZdVbjio
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:23 PM
Read the statutes. There has to be a hearing on immunity before a civil suit and Z will win. It's the law.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:23 PM
:lmao
CNN getting it wrong again. Florida isn't California.
You are such a fucking tool.
for a 55 year old man, you are pretty dumb.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:24 PM
:lmao @ ButthurtTrillClinton
you should change your name
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:25 PM
for a 55 year old man, you are pretty dumb.
wanna bet, bitch?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:28 PM
:lmao @ ButthurtTrillClinton
you should change your name
wack
wanna bet, bitch?
sure. if a civil suit isn't filed, we can meet and you can punch me or slap me in the face and i won't hit you back. if a civil suit is filed, then i get to punch or slap you in the face and you can't hit me back. deal?
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 09:28 PM
I am arguing that the state shouldn't have to prove that you didn't shoot someone in self defense. The state should have to prove that you killed someone and at that point it is up to you to prove that you had good cause.
Someone on top of you beating you seems like good enough cause to me. You seem like a sensible and rational person, I don't see why you wouldn't do the same. Now if you don't own a gun I could see how shooting someone in that situation could be a foreign concept.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:29 PM
LAPD threatening to shoot peaceful protesters with rubber bullets
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPLYmi-CYAAeWaW.jpg:large
#amerikkka
tlongII
07-14-2013, 09:30 PM
salute to martin bashir. trayvon's parents haven held their heads up high through this entire trial and been all class all the time, even when people like rhinestonecowboy assassinate his character by calling him "ghetto"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HhTZZdVbjio
You mean like when they lied about the voice on the recording?
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 09:30 PM
no, the civil suit will be a lower burden of proof. he can't be tried again for murder or manslaughter in Florida, but he can be sued for the loss of life. he can even face federal, criminal charges
I'd assume if he lost a civil suit he could easily pay for it with his own cases against the media that created the racial shitstorm.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:33 PM
I'd assume if he lost a civil suit he could easily pay for it with his own cases against the media that created the racial shitstorm.
or his team of supporters will donate the money again. i can't believe people are supporting a pedo.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:33 PM
wack
sure. if a civil suit isn't filed, we can meet and you can punch me or slap me in the face and i won't hit you back. if a civil suit is filed, then i get to punch or slap you in the face and you can't hit me back. deal?
Actually, I'd rather just buy you a beer at Scott's and try to set an example of how to be a responsible adult.
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 09:34 PM
Why no outrage from the black community towards the media for getting them outraged with lies?
Trill? Creepn? Fuzzy?
Not a single one of you have commented on the smear campaign that went on. Why?
SA210
07-14-2013, 09:36 PM
Rapper Lupe Fiasco on Zimmerman Verdict: System Relies on Reasonable Doubt, not Emotions
http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Hollywood/2013/07/13/fiasco/Lupe%20Fiasco.jpg
Not every celebrity took to Twitter to lambaste the acquittal of George Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/13/Reaction-on-ground) in the hotly debated case of Trayvon Martin's death.
Rapper Lupe Fiasco (http://twitchy.com/2013/07/14/rapper-lupe-fiasco-black-blood-spills-in-the-streets-of-america-nightly-at-the-hands-of-other-blacks/) served up a series of thought-provoking tweets that, agree or disagree, set him apart from his peers.
"Rub your face in it! Swallow down that hard pill! Black blood spills in the streets of America nightly at the hands other blacks "
"Yeah gimme that anger...once again that rage...that misguided angst when you true enemy is your own complacency and cowardice."
"Curse kick scream yell tweet unfollow. Don't matter to me if y'all don't start valuing yourselves N*****S will be in the same boat tomorrow"
"Nobody knows what really happened except trayvon and Zimmerman. The justice system relies on reasonable doubt not our emotions."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/07/14/lupe-fiasco-zimmerman-crime?utm_content=buffereffc3&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 09:38 PM
Avoid 10 freeway through Mid-city area. MT @NewsBreaker: NEW PHOTO: Protesters of Zimmerman verdict blocking 10 Fwy. pic.twitter.com/AuFpmx0XW5
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:38 PM
Actually, I'd rather just buy you a beer at Scott's and try to set an example of how to be a responsible adult.
i don't drink beer. i am a responsible adult.
Why no outrage from the black community towards the media for getting them outraged with lies?
Trill? Creepn? Fuzzy?
Not a single one of you have commented on the smear campaign that went on. Why?
what smear campaign? if you're talking about the smear campaign against trayvon, go back and read all 3 threads, doggie.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:39 PM
Assuming there really was a civil suit (which there won't be) then the gloves come off for both sides. 13 year old Saint Travon suddenly gets portrayed as 17 year old wanna be gangsta Trayvon as all that shit that got excluded in the criminal trial gets allowed in the civil trial. Ka fucking boom.
:lmao
That will be a classic thread for damn sure.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:39 PM
lupe is frustrated, fed up and angry. he is from chicago aka chiraq so he has seen a lot of young black men get killed with little to no media attention.
boutons_deux
07-14-2013, 09:40 PM
Now that the greasey shitbag murderer is officially innocent, there's a charm offensive to show what a charming, wonderful, good guy he is
ugly rehabilitation of George Zimmerman has begun
The rehabilitation of George Zimmerman has begun.
Robert Zimmerman Jr., George Zimmerman’s older brother, has launched a one-man PR effort, showing up all over CNN (http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/14/robert-zimmerman-jr-to-piers-morgan-there-are-people-that-would-want-to-take-the-law-into-their-own-hands-they-will-always-present-a-threat-to-george/?hpt=pm_t1), on NPR (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/14/202036437/zimmermans-brother-race-wasnt-an-element-in-this-case), even finding time for Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Robert-Zimmerman-Sharpton), to extol his brother’s essential goodness and the wisdom of the Seminole County jury that exonerated him (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-verdict-reaction-protests-0130714,0,851366.story) of second-degree murder or manslaughter in the death of Trayvon Martin.
At first glance, Zimmerman is an impressive family spokesman.
Calmly, articulately and sometimes sternly, Robert has defended his little brother in a way only a loved one can do. (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-pictures-20120802,0,5256497.photogallery)
In particular, he has hammered the media for creating a “false narrative” about his brother, reserving special contempt for NBC, which edited the tape (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-issues-apology-on-zimmerman-tape-screw-up/2012/04/03/gIQA8m5jtS_blog.html) of George’s call to Sanford police to make it sound as if he offered up the information that Trayvon Martin was black, when in fact, a police operator asked him to describe the young man he was following. That was a huge blunder on NBC’s part.
And yet, he also appears to be sensitive to racial injustice. “I will say that Sanford had a history in its police department of having issues with race and equal application and equal access to justice in that community,” he told NPR’s Rachel Martin on Sunday. “I know that has nothing to do with George, but I can see where there were concerns, initially, that something may be afoot in Sanford. Unfortunately, the pegging of George as a white man was essential to get that narrative traction and get that ball rolling.” (The Zimmermans’ father is white; their mother is Peruvian.)
But Zimmerman is disingenuous when he criticizes people for injecting race into the story. In fact, he has done as much as anyone to racialize the case.
In numerous interviews, Zimmerman has subtly injected racial stereotypes into the case, echoing defense attorney Mark O’Mara’s line that Martin was not, as the prosecution portrayed him, a teenager armed with nothing more than Skittles, but an angry, dangerous young man armed with his fists, and a sidewalk.
“Trayvon Martin WAS armed,” Zimmerman told NPR. “He used the sidewalk against my brother’s head. He had whatever anger he brought with him when he confronted George and broke his nose. …He had something within him that he wouldn’t let up, his relentless attack despite George screaming for help. So he was not unarmed, and I really take exception to that notion.”
Last March, he tweeted (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/zimmerman-apologizes-racially-charged-twitter-rant-article-1.1301109) a photograph of two black 17-year-olds with the slogan “A picture speaks a thousand words. Any questions?”
The boy on the right was Trayvon Martin, giving a double barreled middle finger salute to the camera. The boy on the left, throwing down gang signs, was De’Marquise Elkins, who has been charged with shooting a 1-year-old baby during a botched robbery.
He tweeted: “Lib media shld ask if what these2 black teens did 2 a woman&baby is the reason ppl think blacks mightB risky.”
He apologized after his brother’s attorneys publicly distanced themselves. “I made a serious error in judgment abt the way it wld convey & understand why it is offensive,” he tweeted.
When the trial started June 24, Robert Zimmerman went silent. That was a smart move, given the sometimes inflammatory nature of his public communication.
But once the defense team persuaded the only audience that mattered that George Zimmerman was not guilty of murder, the brother was back in the picture, and all over the news.
It has fallen to him to persuade the rest of the country that George Zimmerman may have killed Martin, but only because Martin gave him no choice.
Underlying his robust defense, though, is the poisonous attitude about race that is at the crux of the entire tragedy.
“We have to grow from this,” Robert Zimmerman (http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor.html) told CNN’s Don Lemon on Saturday night. “I want to know what makes people angry enough to attack someone the way that Trayvon Martin did. I want to know if it is true, and I don’t know if it’s true, that Trayvon Martin was looking to procure firearms, was growing marijuana plants.”
Isn’t it fascinating how he sets up the social problem? He’s not disturbed that his own brother actually got a gun and used it to shoot Martin through the heart, he’s disturbed at the possibility that a black teenager might have talked about getting a gun.
etc
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/1780/article/p2p-76667540/
SA210
07-14-2013, 09:40 PM
Lupe is well informed tbh
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:40 PM
Assuming there really was a civil suit (which there won't be) then the gloves come off for both sides. 13 year old Saint Travon suddenly gets portrayed as 17 year old wanna be gangsta Trayvon as all that shit that got excluded in the criminal trial gets allowed in the civil trial. Ka fucking boom.
:lmao
That will be a classic thread for damn sure.
wannabe gangsta>>>>>pedophile.
2centsworth
07-14-2013, 09:40 PM
that's pretty much how most states (even florida) view intentional killings. that's what trials are for tbh.
what's the burden of proof when trying to prove myself innocent?
HI-FI
07-14-2013, 09:41 PM
common sense :lol. wow stfu
Sorry if I don't see your boy trayvon as faultless in this debacle.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:41 PM
i don't drink beer. i am a responsible adult.
Your beverage of choice?
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:45 PM
wannabe gangsta>>>>>pedophile.
Trial for pedophile? There is no statute of limitations. If there was a shred of fact the charge would have already been brought. You are just making a fool of yourself now bringing up discredited wanna be 15 minutes of fame shit. Seriously? You are losing it, dude...:lmao
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:45 PM
Your beverage of choice?
water or apple juice.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:46 PM
*sigh*
And I was so looking forward to a beer summit with Trill.
mojorizen7
07-14-2013, 09:47 PM
I find it very hard to believe that there's no technology available to identify the scream for "help" tapes.
/of case right there.
Is that really true? As a tech generation society who can do incredibly amazingly important and unimportant things...to be incapable of making a determination from that sample tape just seems odd to me.
I can go into a music studio tomorrow and a producer can make me sound like Elvis...but we dont have the tech to identify who screamed?
Strange.
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 09:47 PM
BREAKING LAPD tells @anblanx some demonstrator threw rocks and D-cell batteries at police, who responded by firing less-than-lethal rounds
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:48 PM
Trial for pedophile? There is no statute of limitations. If there was a shred of fact the charge would have already been brought. You are just making a fool of yourself now bringing up discredited wanna be 15 minutes of fame shit. Seriously? You are losing it, dude...:lmao
i wasn't saying he was going to be put on trial for his pedophilia. the media has assassinated tray's character as a wannabe thug, meanwhile ignoring a young woman claiming he molested her for over a decade. anyways, that couldn't be brought up in the murder trial, the judge didn't allow it.
i can't believe you call that woman's claim "15 minutes of fame" lol...wow. what if your daughter, granddaughter or great granddaughter made an outcry, would you also ignore it?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:50 PM
BREAKING LAPD tells @anblanx some demonstrator threw rocks and D-cell batteries at police, who responded by firing less-than-lethal rounds
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i hope they protestors remain peacful
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:54 PM
we talked about thug trayvon for almost 3 threads. lets talk about pedo george. would you allow him to date your daughter?
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 09:56 PM
i wasn't saying he was going to be put on trial for his pedophilia. the media has assassinated tray's character as a wannabe thug, meanwhile ignoring a young woman claiming he molested her for over a decade. anyways, that couldn't be brought up in the murder trial, the judge didn't allow it.
i can't believe you call that woman's claim "15 minutes of fame" lol...wow. what if your daughter, granddaughter or great granddaughter made an outcry, would you also ignore it?
Bring your facts.
You just made a statement of fact that Zimmerman was a pedophile.
Back it up, bitch.
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 09:58 PM
@NewsBreaker 2m
BREAKING: Protests are getting very intense right now in NYC - police moving in (WATCH LIVE) http://bit.ly/15vENyS #TrayvonMartin
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 09:58 PM
@NewsBreaker 2m
BREAKING: Protests are getting very intense right now in NYC - police moving in (WATCH LIVE) http://bit.ly/15vENyS #TrayvonMartin
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 09:59 PM
Bring your facts.
You just made a statement of fact that Zimmerman was a pedophile.
Back it up, bitch.
lmaooooo, you get real angry when i talk about ya boy georgie. i just posted what the young lady said he did to her. google ' witness 9, zimmerman' . but since its ya boy zimmerman, you don't believe it. if it was a woman in your family who said she was molested, would you dismiss her claims as easily as well?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:00 PM
only ones being violent in those protests are the police, shame.
InRareForm
07-14-2013, 10:00 PM
smh
RT JOHNAlstonABC7: Protesters are burning American flag at 14th & Broadway in Oakland. http://pic.twitter.com/7QzTxuGyho
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:04 PM
a woman making a outcry of molestation by a family member is considered trying to gain "15 minutes of fame". shame that a person would think a woman would risk humiliation for fame. i feel sorry for your daughters if you have that type of attitude towards an outcry that serious.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:06 PM
lmaooooo, you get real angry when i talk about ya boy georgie. i just posted what the young lady said he did to her. google ' witness 9, zimmerman' . but since its ya boy zimmerman, you don't believe it. if it was a woman in your family who said she was molested, would you dismiss her claims as easily as well?
No, I said bring your facts.
I too remember when that accusation was aired and then immediately discredited.
Bring your facts.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:07 PM
:lmao @ Trills butthurt.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:09 PM
No, I said bring your facts.
I too remember when that accusation was aired and then immediately discredited.
Bring your facts.
discredited by who? where are your facts trayvon was a thug?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:10 PM
rhinestonecowboy is supporting this pedo with all his might lol
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:24 PM
I'm not mad at you. I told you from the start that I didn't particularly like Zimmerman and in fact thought both were stupid assholes but the facts didn't support a conviction. It was a clean self defense shoot. Why are you so butthurt?
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:27 PM
i'm butthurt because i'm angry trayvon is dead. now back to the pedo, yes you did say they were both assholes, but you have called trayvon a thug, ghetto, gangsta, loser, etc several times. you assassinated the character of a dead kid but not a peep about zimmerman being a pedo, why? when him being a pedo comes up, it gets quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton. nobody wants to admit that they are championing a pedo.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:37 PM
i'm butthurt because i'm angry trayvon is dead. now back to the pedo, yes you did say they were both assholes, but you have called trayvon a thug, ghetto, gangsta, loser, etc several times. you assassinated the character of a dead kid but not a peep about zimmerman being a pedo, why? when him being a pedo comes up, it gets quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton. nobody wants to admit that they are championing a pedo.
Prove to me he is a pedo, bitch. I'll gladly agree with you then. PROVE IT. You really think LE ignored that claim considering the microscope Zimmerman was under? you are just butthurt and throwing shit out now. Got it.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:44 PM
I'm looking forward to buying you a glass of water at Scotts.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:45 PM
Prove to me he is a pedo, bitch. I'll gladly agree with you then. PROVE IT. You really think LE ignored that claim considering the microscope Zimmerman was under? you are just butthurt and throwing shit out now. Got it.
prove to me trayvon was ghetto, a thug, etc. posing with a gun and smoking weed at 17 doesn't make someone a thug. beating on women, police officers and molesting a female family member is a thug/creep if you ask me.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:47 PM
if cc's granddaughter tells her that an uncle or family friend molested her, he won't believe it. he'll tell her to prove it. sexual abuse is one of the hardest crimes to prove, i feel sorry for the women in your family.
tlongII
07-14-2013, 10:50 PM
Trill, you are all over the place. I have no idea what your point is now.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 10:51 PM
Trill, you are all over the place. I have no idea what your point is now.
he's chimping out
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:56 PM
Trill, you are all over the place. I have no idea what your point is now.
what specifically are you confused about and i'll break it down for ya.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 10:57 PM
i think i've been calling out georgie for being a pedo the last 2 pages. what is so hard to comprehend there?
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 10:58 PM
what specifically are you confused about and i'll break it down for ya.
It's called facts.
Pretty simple, really.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 11:00 PM
Prove your pedo allegation and we would be on your side.
Problem is, you can't and won't.
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:03 PM
Prove your pedo allegation and we would be on your side.
Problem is, you can't and won't.
i just posted a...okay wait..
link to the pedo allegations by his cousin: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0716/George-Zimmerman-s-cousin-accuses-him-of-sexual-molestation-video
now, if a female in your family alleged she was molested, would you tell her to prove it? how would you expect her to prove it?
scroteface
07-14-2013, 11:06 PM
black racists love to try to pull the long debunked pedo card:
There is a long-standing myth perpetrated by Blacks and White anti-racists like Tim Wise that Whites are more likely to molest children than any other race. This goes back to some stereotype of the creepy, nerdy, weirdo White guy who can’t get laid so he molests kids.
About time we shot this myth full of holes like it needs to be.
Stats (http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats.htm):
% of total child molesters:White 51%African American 25%Hispanic 15%American Indian/Alaska Natives 2%Asian/Pacific Islanders 1%Relative to their population, likelihood of abuse compared to background population rate:
American Indian +100%Blacks +92%Hispanics no differenceWhites -35%Asian -67%
funny enough, blacks are more likely to be pedo's than either whites or hispanics, unless we're now claiming zimmerman is native american
scroteface
07-14-2013, 11:07 PM
i think the problem is trill said he was going to take his little bros to the range and instead of aiming at the target he targeted that bootyhole didn't ya trill
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:08 PM
lol@ that stat
Trill Clinton
07-14-2013, 11:10 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/30c3b7b.gif to ya'll. my girl is calling me to bed. ttyl fellas.
CosmicCowboy
07-14-2013, 11:13 PM
LOL @ that link.
PROOF Trill.
Quit playing the stereotypical young dumb nigga and bring some game.
scroteface
07-14-2013, 11:18 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/30c3b7b.gif to ya'll. my girl is calling me to bed. ttyl fellas.
girl or woman? prison age black males shouldn't be having relations with "girls"
KingsFanWithoutName
07-14-2013, 11:47 PM
what smear campaign? if you're talking about the smear campaign against trayvon, go back and read all 3 threads, doggie.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet
Stop looking at the skin color of the victim and open your eyes to what happened here. You got caught up in it, just admit it. Look, I'm sorry that a kid got killed, but this kid shouldn't have sucker punched an armed guy who was following him, end of story. A kid is dead and another guy's life is ruined, there are no winners here.
Jacob1983
07-15-2013, 01:44 AM
Black people only care when whitey kills one of their own. They don't give a fuck if a brotha or homie kills another brother or homie because they have nothing to gain from it by bitching about it.
Wild Cobra
07-15-2013, 03:53 AM
Not guilty of all charges.
gee.
I'm shocked!
I hope you're not serious.
Wild Cobra
07-15-2013, 03:54 AM
:lmao @ Fuzzylogics incredible mathematical analytical skills and he still couldn't get that 2+2 still =4
analytical skills :lmao
NOT FUCKING GUILTY!
SUCK IT BITCH!
:lmao
Does that Fussy bitch ever get anything right?
tim_duncan_fan
07-15-2013, 04:11 AM
All the white people in this thread are celebrating the death of a black young man...mostly because they have little dicks and suck at sports. Celebrate your "hero" now and burn in hell later.
At least Zimmerman was out there actually killing niggas instead of hiding behind a computer monitor and keeping his racism in the closet.
Penis envy is a motherfucker.
Wild Cobra
07-15-2013, 04:12 AM
All the white people in this thread are celebrating the death of a black young man...mostly because they have little ducks and suck at sports. Celebrate your "hero" note and burn in hell later.
At least Zimmerman was out there actually killing niggas instead of hiding behind a computer monitor and keeping his racism in the closet.
Penis envy is a motherfucker.
Oh great.
Another racist troll...
tim_duncan_fan
07-15-2013, 04:21 AM
Oh great.
Another racist troll...
Not trolling. Just getting down to the Freud of the situation. Zimmerman is a hero to some for the most animalistic reasons. It's just base, lower-level thinking. Why do you think we have people going "the nigga is dead and he got off hahahaha blacks: 0 whites: 1"?
Who can joke about this? Little-dicked girl-boys threatened by black masculinity.
Just calling things how they are.
He shouldn't have been convicted because they couldn't prove murder, but the people celebrating are doing so out of base-level thinking.
Fucking animals.
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 04:24 AM
Zimmerman verdict: A green light for racist vigilantes (http://www.salon.com/2013/07/14/how_power_works_in_america/)
After I let myself into the office, I noticed some Caucasians mingling around. I paid them no mind, since our office often has off-hours visitors who rent the common space.
“Can I help you?” said a middle aged white man, testily.
“No,” I shot back. “But I can I help YOU?”
“What do you mean?”
“I work here,” I said. “This is MY office.”
“Oh,” he said, stepping back slightly. “I saw you and just wanted to make sure things are OK.”
“Thank you, George Zimmerman,” I said.
Weeks later, my sarcastic one-off is more painful to me than I could ever have imagined. George Zimmerman’s acquittal leaves me feeling so nauseous.
This office exchange has been common to me my whole life. A testy “Can I help you?” doubles as a passive-aggressive demand for me to justify my presence even where I belong. Thankfully, I have never encountered an armed white person on the other end of that presumption.
Trayvon Martin paid for that common presumption with his life.
Zimmerman’s stooges and apologists claim that his deadly encounter had nothing do with race. And that his trial and acquittal have nothing to do with race. His defenders effectively portrayed him as a hapless Samaritan who got in over his head. Meanwhile, they tarred Trayvon as a menace who failed to properly justify his existence.
These presumptions colored every moment of the Police Department’s botched initial reaction and the trial.
How does an armed adult defy the policy, chase down a youth, kill him, and then turn around and call it self defense? Defense from what? A fleeing kid? Was Trayvon Martin seen for his humanity? Or as a “fucking punk”? Are black men seen for our humanity or as three-fifths of a fucking punk? This verdict will have devastating consequences. It is an implicit green light for every paranoid, sub-intelligent, vigilante racist to go on victimizing black youth. Trayvon Martin is dead for no reason other than being black.
Why do Zimmerman and some Americans feel entitled to police black and brown people like vigilantes? Why did the Sanford Police Department test a dead boy’s body for drugs in “standard operating procedure,” yet failed to test a live man’s body for alcohol or drugs? Why did the Sanford Police Department fail so miserably during the critical immediate hours after arriving on the scene?
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/14/how_power_works_in_america/
"fucking nigga"
"asshole punk"
"they always get away"
young black male in a hoodie, OBVIOUSLY profiled as a fucking nigga asshole punk who can't be allowed to get away.
Wild Cobra
07-15-2013, 04:44 AM
Not trolling. Just getting down to the Freud of the situation. Zimmerman is a hero to some for the most animalistic reasons. It's just base, lower-level thinking. Why do you think we have people going "the nigga is dead and he got off hahahaha blacks: 0 whites: 1"?
Who can joke about this? Little-dicked girl-boys threatened by black masculinity.
Just calling things how they are.
He shouldn't have been convicted because they couldn't prove murder, but the people celebrating are doing so out of base-level thinking.
Fucking animals.
I don't recall anyone calling him a hero.
Who?
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 05:01 AM
Six Million Trayvons: How The George Zimmerman Mindset Has Rigged The Justice System Against Young Black Men (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/14/2298441/six-million-trayvons-how-the-george-zimmerman-mindset-has-rigged-the-justice-system-against-young-black-men/)
It is the Zimmerman mindset that must be found guilty – far more than the man himself. It is a mindset that views black men and boys as nothing but a threat, good for nothing, up to no good no matter who they are or what they are doing. It is the Zimmerman mindset that has birthed a penal system unprecedented in world history, and relegated millions to a permanent undercaste.
the six million young black men in America, get much worse outcomes from the criminal justice system for the same conduct:
1. A black male born in 2001 has a 32% chance of spending some portion of his life in prison. A white male born the same year has just a 6% chance. [Sentencing Project (http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_reducingracialdisparity.pdf)]
2. In major American cities, as many as 80% of young African-American men have criminal records. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]
3. African-Americans who use drugs are more than four times as likely to be incarcerated than whites who use drugs. African Americans constitute 14% of the population and 14% of monthly drug users. But African-Americans respresent 34% of those arrested for a drug offense and 53% of those sentenced to prison for a drug offense. [American Bar Association (http://www.americanbar.org/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/human_rights_vol37_2010/fall2010/justice_for_all_challenging_racial_disparities_cri minal_justice_system.html)]
4. In seven states, African Americans constitute 80% or more of all drug offenders sent to prison. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]
5. Black students are three and a half times as likely to be suspended or expelled than their white peers. One in five black boys recieve an out-of-school suspension. Education Secretary Arne Duncan who commissioned the study, said “The undeniable truth is that the everyday education experience for too many students of color violates the principle of equity at the heart of the American promise.” [New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/education/black-students-face-more-harsh-discipline-data-shows.html)]
6. Black youth who are referred to juvenile court are much more likely to be detained, referred to adult court or end up in adult prison than their white counterparts. Blacks represented 28% of juvenile arrests, 30% of referrals to juvenile court, 37% of the detained population, 35% of youth judicially waived to criminal court and 58% of youth admitted to state adult prison. [National Council on Crime And Deliquency (http://www.nccdglobal.org/sites/default/files/publication_pdf/justice-for-some.pdf)]
7. The United States imprisons a larger percentage of its black population than South Africa did at the height of apartheid. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/14/2298441/six-million-trayvons-how-the-george-zimmerman-mindset-has-rigged-the-justice-system-against-young-black-men/
But the extreme right wing activist SCOTUS assholes say "things have changed" since VRA was voted.
Wild Cobra
07-15-2013, 05:12 AM
Boutons, perhaps the black community leaders should lead their people. Convince them to integrate with everyone else, and stop maintaining the "thug" stereotype.
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 05:18 AM
racist Repugs weigh in
Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents
Republican strategist Karl Rove on Sunday accused President Barack Obama of tearing the country apart by sympathizing with the parents of slain teen Trayvon Martin.
During a panel discussion on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked Rove to respond to the possibility that the Justice Department could pursue civil rights charges after a Florida jury’s found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Martin.
“I hope that this is the end,” Rove said. “President Obama politicized this at the beginning of it, I believe, unfortunately, by injecting himself into it and saying that if Trayvon Martin — that if he’d have had a son it would look like Trayvon Martin.”
“We need a president to bring us together, not rip us apart,” he added. “And I hope the Justice Department does not respond to the ill-advised recommendation of the NAACP to continue this controversy.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/14/rove-obama-ripped-us-apart-by-sympathizing-with-trayvons-parents/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
... from the "thought leader" of the party of extremist, polarizing, divisive assholes who have been dividing America for 35 years.
Rove, and such ilk who politicize everything, gives a tiny fuck about "politicizing" the murder of an innocent black kid? :lol
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 05:36 AM
George Zimmerman Considers Law School After Trayvon Martin Murder Acquittal
After his acquittal on murder charges for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman may go to law school to help people wrongly accused of crimes like himself,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/14/george-zimmerman-law-school_n_3595945.html
the shitbag, racist, vigilante murderer to become a shitbag good Samaritan lawyer, righting the wrongs of the world! :lol
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 05:55 AM
The Real Winners Of the Zimmerman Trial Were the NRA and ALEC
Zimmerman’s triumph in court hardly absolves him of stalking and killing an unarmed African American youth from a moral perspective, but he, his legal team, racists, and two very powerful conservative political organizations are undoubtedly celebrating a major victory that portends their crusade to legitimize vigilantism is closer to fruition. Unfortunately for America, the victory was the third in the past month for extremist Republicans that inform America is on the verge of losing its standing as a civilized society.
Like the NRA’s victory in blocking expanded background checks for prospective gun purchasers after 20 children and six adults were slaughtered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December, Zimmerman’s acquittal is another triumph in the NRA’s drive to unleash armed civilians to mete out frontier justice on innocent Americans guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. For Trayvon Martin, being a young African American male in the wrong place (a white neighborhood) at the wrong time (on George Zimmerman’s watch) resulted in a self-appointed vigilante making him pay with his life.
It is important to remember that it took over a month for charges to be filed against Zimmerman because Florida is home to the American Legislative Exchange Council’s (ALEC) original “stand your ground” law. Truth be told, the real trial and victor in the Trayvon Martin killing was not George Zimmerman, but the NRA authored (http://www.alec.org/about-alec/meet-our-staff/) and ALEC legislated the “Castle Doctrine Act” (stand your ground) that has been acquitted and approved as the law of the land giving racially motivated vigilantes legal cover to stalk, confront, and murder people of color they deem being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The reason Zimmerman was not charged with a crime for over a month is because the state attorney for Seminole County, Norm Wolfinger, personally told Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee to release Zimmerman overruling the lead detective who recommended arresting Zimmerman for manslaughter. Doubtless Wolfinger, a Republican, was nervous that a trial and conviction would be an indictment of the Republican-passed stand your ground law ALEC has propagated in dozens of states (http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Castle_Doctrine) at the behest of the National Rifle Association that contributed heavily to Florida Republicans to see the “justifiable murder (http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Castle_Doctrine)” stand your ground law put on the books and increased justifiable homicide (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1128317.ece) by 300%. It is worth repeating that the NRA brought the stand your ground abomination to ALEC and had as much to lose with a conviction as Zimmerman;
subsequently, they, as much as Zimmerman, have been acquitted and doubtless celebrated the victory behind closed doors and likely panted for African American civil unrest to unleash their armed acolytes to stand their ground, stalk, and kill more young African American males.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/14/real-winners-zimmerman-trial-nra-alec.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/14/real-winners-zimmerman-trial-nra-alec.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)
NRA and ALEC destroying American civilization relentlessly, unstoppably.
dickless gun fellators rejoice! esp the poor ones that ALEX/Repug policies fuck over the most :lol
boobie4three
07-15-2013, 07:32 AM
George Zimmerman Considers Law School After Trayvon Martin Murder Acquittal
After his acquittal on murder charges for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman may go to law school to help people wrongly accused of crimes like himself,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/14/george-zimmerman-law-school_n_3595945.html
the shitbag, racist, vigilante murderer to become a shitbag good samartan lawyer, righting the wrongs of the world! :lol
Here's another thing to stick in your craw. Zimmerman is in the process of getting his 9 MM gun back.
boobie4three
07-15-2013, 07:57 AM
Zimmerman verdict: A green light for racist vigilantes (http://www.salon.com/2013/07/14/how_power_works_in_america/)
After I let myself into the office, I noticed some Caucasians mingling around. I paid them no mind, since our office often has off-hours visitors who rent the common space.
“Can I help you?” said a middle aged white man, testily.
“No,” I shot back. “But I can I help YOU?”
“What do you mean?”
“I work here,” I said. “This is MY office.”
“Oh,” he said, stepping back slightly. “I saw you and just wanted to make sure things are OK.”
“Thank you, George Zimmerman,” I said.
Weeks later, my sarcastic one-off is more painful to me than I could ever have imagined. George Zimmerman’s acquittal leaves me feeling so nauseous.
This office exchange has been common to me my whole life. A testy “Can I help you?” doubles as a passive-aggressive demand for me to justify my presence even where I belong. Thankfully, I have never encountered an armed white person on the other end of that presumption.
Trayvon Martin paid for that common presumption with his life.
Zimmerman’s stooges and apologists claim that his deadly encounter had nothing do with race. And that his trial and acquittal have nothing to do with race. His defenders effectively portrayed him as a hapless Samaritan who got in over his head. Meanwhile, they tarred Trayvon as a menace who failed to properly justify his existence.
These presumptions colored every moment of the Police Department’s botched initial reaction and the trial.
How does an armed adult defy the policy, chase down a youth, kill him, and then turn around and call it self defense? Defense from what? A fleeing kid? Was Trayvon Martin seen for his humanity? Or as a “fucking punk”? Are black men seen for our humanity or as three-fifths of a fucking punk? This verdict will have devastating consequences. It is an implicit green light for every paranoid, sub-intelligent, vigilante racist to go on victimizing black youth. Trayvon Martin is dead for no reason other than being black.
Why do Zimmerman and some Americans feel entitled to police black and brown people like vigilantes? Why did the Sanford Police Department test a dead boy’s body for drugs in “standard operating procedure,” yet failed to test a live man’s body for alcohol or drugs? Why did the Sanford Police Department fail so miserably during the critical immediate hours after arriving on the scene?
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/14/how_power_works_in_america/
"fucking nigga"
"asshole punk"
"they always get away"
young black male in a hoodie, OBVIOUSLY profiled as a fucking nigga asshole punk who can't be allowed to get away.
Well heck, even Jesse Jackson is afraid of black people. Remember this?
"There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start to think about robbery and then look around and see it's somebody white and feel relieved. How humiliating." THE REV. JESSE JACKSON, NOV. 27, 1993
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/940117/archive_012245.htm
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 08:29 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet
Stop looking at the skin color of the victim and open your eyes to what happened here. You got caught up in it, just admit it. Look, I'm sorry that a kid got killed, but this kid shouldn't have sucker punched an armed guy who was following him, end of story. A kid is dead and another guy's life is ruined, there are no winners here.
i'm not looking at skin color, y'all are.
LOL @ that link.
PROOF Trill.
Quit playing the stereotypical young dumb nigga and bring some game.
i gave you the proof, is a woman's outcry of molestation not proof? stop dodging the question for once, if your daughter told you a male cousin molested her for 10 years, would you tell her to prove it? how would she prove it? you're defending a pedo lol.
boobie4three
07-15-2013, 08:32 AM
racist Repugs weigh in
Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents
Republican strategist Karl Rove on Sunday accused President Barack Obama of tearing the country apart by sympathizing with the parents of slain teen Trayvon Martin.
During a panel discussion on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked Rove to respond to the possibility that the Justice Department could pursue civil rights charges after a Florida jury’s found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Martin.
“I hope that this is the end,” Rove said. “President Obama politicized this at the beginning of it, I believe, unfortunately, by injecting himself into it and saying that if Trayvon Martin — that if he’d have had a son it would look like Trayvon Martin.”
“We need a president to bring us together, not rip us apart,” he added. “And I hope the Justice Department does not respond to the ill-advised recommendation of the NAACP to continue this controversy.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/14/rove-obama-ripped-us-apart-by-sympathizing-with-trayvons-parents/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
... from the "thought leader" of the party of extremist, polarizing, divisive assholes who have been dividing America for 35 years.
Rove, and such ilk who politicize everything, gives a tiny fuck about "politicizing" the murder of an innocent black kid? :lol
In the first highlighted statement by Rove, the President damn well stoked the fire by making that stupid statement.
Rove is also correct in urging the DOJ not to pursue civil rights violations when it's been pointed out there was NONE. If the DOJ presses charges, it'll be because they succumbed to mob rule.
lebomb
07-15-2013, 08:34 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet
Stop looking at the skin color of the victim and open your eyes to what happened here. You got caught up in it, just admit it. Look, I'm sorry that a kid got killed, but this kid shouldn't have sucker punched an armed guy who was following him, end of story. A kid is dead and another guy's life is ruined, there are no winners here.
I would have knocked that bitch Zimmerman out COLD following me at night like that. Fuck him. If that would have been anyones kid here in ST, they would be pissed their kid got smoked for walking home from the gottdayum store. What? You cant walk at night now? I just dont get the fuckin confusion in this. Trayvon had EVERY right to be minding his own business period.
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 08:38 AM
smh@ all these people from different racial backgrounds coming together for nothing!!! the supporters for trayvon, oscer grant, sean bell, troy davis, aiyana jones are all out in public, showing their faces. while the supporters of the child killing pedo hide behind the computers and donate funds, sad.
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CosmicCowboy
07-15-2013, 08:41 AM
i'm not looking at skin color, y'all are.
i gave you the proof, is a woman's outcry of molestation not proof? stop dodging the question for once, if your daughter told you a male cousin molested her for 10 years, would you tell her to prove it? how would she prove it? you're defending a pedo lol.
Duke Lacrosse team says hi.
I'm pretty confident that if the police or prosecution had found ANY basis in fact they would have charged him considering the witch hunt that was going on at the time.
Sportcamper
07-15-2013, 09:01 AM
Trayvon Martin protesters block freeway, streets; Los Angeles...
http://s3-ak.buzzfeed.com/static/campaign_images/webdr01/2013/7/15/1/trayvon-martin-protesters-shut-down-freeway-in-lo-1-12280-1373865419-4_big.jpghttp://3-ps.googleusercontent.com/x/www.topnewstoday.org/static.topnewstoday.org:8080/i5/7/14/44/340xNximg_6844147_340.jpg.pagespeed.ic.ZT5edL2QfW. jpg
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trayvon-martin-protesters-blocks-freeway-streets-lapd-moves-in-20130714,0,2292330.story
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trayvon-martin-protesters-blocks-freeway-streets-lapd-moves-in-20130714,0,2292330.story
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 09:02 AM
Duke Lacrosse team says hi.
I'm pretty confident that if the police or prosecution had found ANY basis in fact they would have charged him considering the witch hunt that was going on at the time.
so a hoodrat stripper's false claims nullify every woman's outcry? say it aint so, cosmo!
if your daughter was to tell you a male cousin molested her, would you tell her to prove it? how would she prove it?
CosmicCowboy
07-15-2013, 09:04 AM
so a hoodrat stripper's false claims nullify every woman's outcry? say it aint so, cosmo!
if your daughter was to tell you a male cousin molested her, would you tell her to prove it? how would she prove it?
I refuse to argue your straw man.
get over your butthurt.
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 09:11 AM
I refuse to argue your straw man.
get over your butthurt.
naw, i'm gonna be butthurt for a while. while its easy for you to call trayvon a ghetto thug, its hard for you to call zimmerman a pedo. nothing strawman about it. its clear that you empathize for pedo's but are quick to call a kid a thug, asshole and ghetto.
i feel sorry for the women in your family.
Creepn
07-15-2013, 09:34 AM
The conversation starts at: Do you believe Zimmerman profiled Martin? If no, dialogue can't continue. Simple as that.
People justifying Zimmerman's murder want to bring up black on black crime and all that other bullshit. It's not about that. It's about the racist justice system. The justice system has no problem sending black men that killed other black men to prison. Or black men that kills other white men. But it does have a problem with sending white men to prison for crimes against blacks. It does have a problem with giving black men a fair trial with adeqaute representation.That's what it's about.
Why was the jury all white? O'Mara knew an all white jury would significantly increases the likelyhood of a "not guilty" verdict. Why?
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 09:38 AM
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spursncowboys
07-15-2013, 09:44 AM
The conversation starts at: Do you believe Zimmerman profiled Martin? If no, dialogue can't continue. Simple as that.
Negative. Two seperate incidences. Martin has no right to attack.
lebomb
07-15-2013, 09:47 AM
Negative. Two seperate incidences. Martin has no right to attack.
OK............you are being followed. Some asshole asks you what you are doing and confronts you. Do you have the right to ignore him or not? If he continues to harass you, do you have the right to tell him to back the fuck off? If he continues to bother you, do you have the right to defend yourself?
What would you have done if you were Trayvon?
spursncowboys
07-15-2013, 09:48 AM
Anybody walking around your neighborhood at 2-3 am with a hoody is suspicious. IMO any race. If you don't feel that way IMO then you either are ignorant to criminal mindset and behavior or you can pay someone to do that for you.
lebomb
07-15-2013, 09:48 AM
Trayvon should have knocked Zimmerman completely the fuck out.........MMA style. Then we wouldnt be talkin about this injustice.
Crooked assed law system we have.
spurraider21
07-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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you can make an identically absurd board for blacks tbh
:cry but the system is out to get us
afro americans make up of 13% of the population but make up for 48% of the murder victims, over 90% of which are perpetrated by other blacks.
lebomb
07-15-2013, 09:50 AM
Anybody walking around your neighborhood at 2-3 am with a hoody is suspicious. IMO any race. If you don't feel that way IMO then you either are ignorant to criminal mindset and behavior or you can pay someone to do that for you.
LMAO!!!! I see more white kids walking around my neighborhood at 2 by far than guys like Trayvon. They vandalize and act like fuckin fools. Noone follows them around with a loaded gun, so STFU with that bullshit.
spursncowboys
07-15-2013, 09:53 AM
OK............you are being followed. Some asshole asks you what you are doing and confronts you. Do you have the right to ignore him or not? If he continues to harass you, do you have the right to tell him to back the fuck off? If he continues to bother you, do you have the right to defend yourself?
What would you have done if you were Trayvon?
you're assuming and adding alot. You don't have the right to attack someone. If you have to use self defense, then it is only if you cannot run. But that's not the case.
As a teenager if I was being followed I would get away.
How about you...Have you ever had your car broken into?
Sportcamper
07-15-2013, 09:54 AM
Alan Dershowitz…07-14-13
Prosecutor should be disbarred…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFUQwRXRC2Q
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 09:55 AM
you can make an identically absurd board for blacks tbh
:cry but the system is out to get us
afro americans make up of 13% of the population but make up for 48% of the murder victims, over 90% of which are perpetrated by other blacks.
yea, that has been repeated several times in here but there are no solutions or answers to why those numbers are the way they are. what system are you referring to?
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 09:57 AM
i admitted to not having white friends, i can tell most of you don't have any black friends. if y'all did, y'all would understand why thousands of people are protesting right now.
TeyshaBlue
07-15-2013, 09:59 AM
i admitted to not having white friends, i can tell most of you don't have any black friends. if y'all did, y'all would understand why thousands of people are protesting right now.
Am I gonna get to buy you a beer at the GTG, Trill?
spurraider21
07-15-2013, 10:03 AM
yea, that has been repeated several times in here but there are no solutions or answers to why those numbers are the way they are. what system are you referring to?
i'm just going off what i've heard. "the system" is constantly mentioned, but usually in different contexts. some say the judicial system is out to get them, some say the educational system is out to get them. which i don't understand since the same public school system that white kids go to are equally accessible for black kids, and heck, applying to college with similar credentials usually gives minorities the upper hand, since the colleges always strive for diversity. people could look at me and see the white skin and assume i'm all privileged or w/e but i'm a first generation american with both my parents being born in Armenia. they moved as kids with dirt poor family, used the american public school system that is "so out to get minorities" and made out fine. thats why it irks me when i hear this all the time
lebomb
07-15-2013, 10:13 AM
you're assuming and adding alot. You don't have the right to attack someone. If you have to use self defense, then it is only if you cannot run. But that's not the case.
As a teenager if I was being followed I would get away.
How about you...Have you ever had your car broken into?
This is going to lead to an assumption you just said not to do. It doesnt matter in this case. Basically Zimmerman should have let the Cops do their job. He should have backed the hell off like he was told. That right there shows you his intentions.
Creepn
07-15-2013, 10:16 AM
Anybody walking around your neighborhood at 2-3 am with a hoody is suspicious. IMO any race. If you don't feel that way IMO then you either are ignorant to criminal mindset and behavior or you can pay someone to do that for you.
2 am? The incident happened like at 7-8pm. Sometime in the evening.
Dick Jones
07-15-2013, 10:17 AM
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tbh this board fails without a "you only care because the lying mainstream media told you to care!"
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 10:23 AM
A Cop's take on the Verdict (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/14/1223459/-A-Cop-s-take-on-the-Verdict)
George Zimmerman:
George fits into a special category that we will just term the perpetual wanna-be. He loves guns, he loves MMA, he watches cops. He fancies himself a criminal investigator in the making. He patrols in his personal vehicle, keeps a police scanner and thinks that he has a direct line into dispatch. The dispatchers on night shift probably do know him by name only because he shows up on caller ID so much. On the night in question he probably sees Trayvon and for some tragic reason made his mind up that this sneaky perp wasn't going to get away from himthis time. His GUN makes him do things that he shouldn't do because he is basically a coward. He follows, attacks, then is bested in a ground fight by a 17 year old boy that he outweighed by several pounds that he then decides to shoot at point blank range. Even the fight scene that played out in Zimmermans mind was written like an urban contemporary movie with Trayvon's last words saying "you got me". (really?)
As a police officer you are trained to use the necessary force to subdue the threat but if there is no longer a deadly threat, deadly force is no longer necessary or approved.
Translation = Had this been a real police officer, his ass would be in deep shit. The local police knew he was a cheese ball. That's why they never hired him. They probably knew him by name.
I think what we have in George Zimmerman is a person who very likely has tried to be a police officer many, many, many times but couldn't for some very good reasons. He has probably tried to apply to police departments and could not pass the entry requirements. Now from the surface you would say this is because of his size. You may surmise that he probably couldn't meet the weight or fitness standard. But I disagree. I would wager that Mr. Zimmerman has probably never gotten past the psyche evaluation. I'm sure laws prohibit the release of applicant information but I would bet that he has applied to at least 2 or more sheriff or police departments in the area and has been declined. You see even in a big city it's a relatively small community. Once you begin applying and fail a polygraph or fail a psych, that follows you. Chances are he's failed a few and has likely been blacklisted. Judging from his demeanor and some of the witness statements he may have some delusions as well. As many voter purges as FL has done it is amazing that this man was able to purchase a weapon after an altercation with police and a DV but I assume that is what having a father in law enforcement will get you. Just from the 30,000 foot view Zimmerman probably never should have been able to purchase a gun. Zimmerman never should have held the job that he did. And Zimmerman never should have been able to get away with murder but he did.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/14/1223459/-A-Cop-s-take-on-the-Verdict?detail=email#
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 10:30 AM
Am I gonna get to buy you a beer at the GTG, Trill?
naw, but i'll buy you one. maybe we can share a pizza?
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 10:43 AM
i'm just going off what i've heard. "the system" is constantly mentioned, but usually in different contexts. some say the judicial system is out to get them, some say the educational system is out to get them. which i don't understand since the same public school system that white kids go to are equally accessible for black kids, and heck, applying to college with similar credentials usually gives minorities the upper hand, since the colleges always strive for diversity. people could look at me and see the white skin and assume i'm all privileged or w/e but i'm a first generation american with both my parents being born in Armenia. they moved as kids with dirt poor family, used the american public school system that is "so out to get minorities" and made out fine. thats why it irks me when i hear this all the time
the american education system isn't out to get anyone but it sucks, especially in inner cities. i don't remember the exact number, but chicago closed down several schools just recently. i even posted a video of a young kid protesting against it because he fears for his life having to go into new and dangerous territory.
the prison system is modern day slavery. minorities are being sent to jail for drug offenses for years, meanwhile whites committing the same offenses aren't serving half that amount of time. i'm not making this up, doggie.
as far as your skin tone, the same thing happening to minorities in america is happening to brown/black people all over the world, fam. fair skin and you're in. its why so many jamaicans and afro-latinos are bleaching their skin and perming their hair; they want to fit in with the people with fair skin because they think it gives them some type of advantage and helps them assimilate into white society, its sad.
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tbh this board fails without a "you only care because the lying mainstream media told you to care!"
lol
angrydude
07-15-2013, 10:50 AM
the american education system isn't out to get anyone but it sucks, especially in inner cities. i don't remember the exact number, but chicago closed down several schools just recently. i even posted a video of a young kid protesting against it because he fears for his life having to go into new and dangerous territory.
the prison system is modern day slavery. minorities are being sent to jail for drug offenses for years, meanwhile whites committing the same offenses aren't serving half that amount of time. i'm not making this up, doggie.
as far as your skin tone, the same thing happening to minorities in america is happening to brown/black people all over the world, fam. fair skin and you're in. its why so many jamaicans and afro-latinos are bleaching their skin and perming their hair; they want to fit in with the people with fair skin because they think it gives them some type of advantage and helps them assimilate into white society, its sad.
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lol
The problem is you're making this case into a watershed moment for all the things you're talking about.
It isn't.
It was about whether Zimmerman had the legal right to defend himself. He did. end of story.
spurraider21
07-15-2013, 10:55 AM
Unless you actually think Zimmerman decided he wants to attack the kid, but decided to call the police before he did so. Sure, he was probably following Martin when he didnt need to, but does that warrant an attack and bashing the dudes head into the ground?
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 10:59 AM
The problem is you're making this case into a watershed moment for all the things you're talking about.
It isn't.
It was about whether Zimmerman had the legal right to defend himself. He did. end of story.
its deeper than that but i don't blame you for not wanting to see it. its not pretty.
Trill Clinton
07-15-2013, 10:59 AM
Unless you actually think Zimmerman decided he wants to attack the kid, but decided to call the police before he did so. Sure, he was probably following Martin when he didnt need to, but does that warrant an attack and bashing the dudes head into the ground?
yes. you follow me in the still of the night you might get shot. unfortunately, trayvon was only 17 and could not even the odds and carry a weapon.
boutons_deux
07-15-2013, 11:00 AM
"does that warrant an attack and bashing the dudes head into the ground?"
FL has SYG law, if you "feel" threatened, you aren't obligated to retreat, you can stand your ground and shoot the other person dead.
TM ran ("retreated") when he saw he was being followed, as GZ said in his 911 call, then when he saw GZ still coming after him, he felt threatened, quit retreating, and stood his ground with his fists, to be murdered by dickless gun fellating vigilante.
tlongII
07-15-2013, 11:07 AM
"does that warrant an attack and bashing the dudes head into the ground?"
FL has SYG law, if you "feel" threatened, you aren't obligated to retreat, you can stand your ground and shoot the other person dead.
TM ran ("retreated") when he saw he was being followed, as GZ said in his 911 call, then when he saw GZ still coming after him, he felt threatened, quit retreating, and stood his ground with his fists, to be murdered by dickless gun fellating vigilante.
Except he wasn't murdered. Didn't you follow the case?
spurraider21
07-15-2013, 11:11 AM
"does that warrant an attack and bashing the dudes head into the ground?"
FL has SYG law, if you "feel" threatened, you aren't obligated to retreat, you can stand your ground and shoot the other person dead.
TM ran ("retreated") when he saw he was being followed, as GZ said in his 911 call, then when he saw GZ still coming after him, he felt threatened, quit retreating, and stood his ground with his fists, to be murdered by dickless gun fellating vigilante.
ok, so Zimmerman was following Martin (not illegal). Martin felt threatened and attacked with his fists. Thus Zimmerman obviously felt threatened while having his head bashed and stood his ground. Where's the illegal act, again?
spurraider21
07-15-2013, 11:14 AM
yes. you follow me in the still of the night you might get shot. unfortunately, trayvon was only 17 and could not even the odds and carry a weapon.
There was no illegal act that can be demonstrated that night. Zimmerman followed Martin. It's not a crime to do so. Martin "stood his ground" and attacked Zimmerman. Not an illegal act. Zimmerman defended himself while in fear for his life. Not a crime. I don't understand the problem, unless there is proof that Zimmerman struck/attacked first
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