The Trayvon Martin Case

[Joyrider]

I'm keeping an eye on Woj twitter to report the verdict first, tbh.

[Trill Clinton]

A true intellectual wouldn't think some over-blown media event whose racial issues aren't any more developed than white guy shoots black guy has any context or history worth mentioning.

why are you posting in here if its an overblown media event? You're not too bright, doggie.


Trill, Creepn, be sho da puddon dem smahtee pant glasses widdout dee glass in dem befo you make dem smahtee pant posts.

^^^^another pseudo intellectual bowing down to juggernaut. Now go make another post in broken English so I can laugh.

[Homeland Security]

A true intellectual wouldn't think some over-blown media event whose racial issues aren't any more developed than white guy shoots black guy has any context or history worth mentioning.
Dat all you got, ee-ratchen-all white man? Dere be a deep histee and lotsa contecks of rachel ah-peshun. If dis been a black man killen a white boy, deyda hung 'im ah'dy. I dun witchoo.

[Homeland Security]

why are you posting in here if its an overblown media event? You're not too bright, doggie.



^^^^another pseudo intellectual bowing down to juggernaut. Now go make another post in broken English so I can laugh.
You're a tremendous intellectual juggernaut, nearly simian in your abilities.

[Homeland Security]

I understand Trill's frustration. When he was younger, when he typed a complete sentence on the computer, a little door would open and there would be a banana inside. Now he gets nothing.

[vy65]

why are you posting in here if its an overblown media event? You're not too bright, doggie.

I like watching the chimps get angry

[Trill Clinton]

That wasn't even funny, though. Try again.

[Homeland Security]

That wasn't even funny, though. Try again.
There needs to be some way for black posters to fling virtual poo so you get the same zoo experience

[Big Empty]

So is the jury deliberating yet?

[vy65]

That wasn't even funny, though. Try again.

:monkey

[vy65]

There needs to be some way for black posters to fling virtual poo so you get the same zoo experience

:monkey

[Homeland Security]

So is the jury deliberating yet?
They're re-reading the instructions. After that, they'll order dinner.

[Trill Clinton]

I like watching the chimps get angry

You're watching my facial expressions? You're not smart at all. Try again.

[vy65]

And before you all say anything, I only rolled with :monkey because :tossingbigblackasssalad, :fawtbox and :twerkallday don't work

[Trill Clinton]

Yawn.

[vy65]

You're watching my facial expressions? You're not smart at all. Try again.

:monkey

[Homeland Security]

That wasn't even funny, though. Try again.
Seriously, there's a significant amount of entertainment value knowing that you'll be all riled up in this thread, that this case really bothers you, that we can press your buttons over and over again, and it will bother you in real life. Having that power over you in a forum so trivial is tremedous.

[vy65]

The Derrick Bells, the bell hooks and the Cornell West's of the world are all marveling in awe and wiping away tears of appreciation at the herculean intellectual prowess Creepn (the one with the ass/chest picture) and Trill (both true AND real) are showing in this thread.

History and Context, from Fredrick Douglas to the Fawtbox

[CosmicCowboy]

There needs to be some way for black posters to fling virtual poo so you get the same zoo experience

:lmao

[pgardn]

Wow.

The perceived safety of anonymity.

[lebomb]

:monkey


Seriously, there's a significant amount of entertainment value knowing that you'll be all riled up in this thread, that this case really bothers you, that we can press your buttons over and over again, and it will bother you in real life. Having that power over you in a forum so trivial is tremedous.


My dick is still WAY bigger than you crackas, so Im good. Have a great weekend. :toast

[AntiChrist]

Wait, is trill the one that likes licking butthole, or is that the other black guy?

Or was it lebomb?

[vy65]

My dick is still WAY bigger than you crackas, so Im good. Have a great weekend. :toast

:monkey

[Trill Clinton]

Seriously, there's a significant amount of entertainment value knowing that you'll be all riled up in this thread,


oh okay. i'm all for online entertainment. continue on with your original banana jokes and chimp emoticons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The above is so flawed...

This reminds me of a mega preacher complex, John Hagee like.

Self absorbed without a hint of true self-examination. It is rare you find a poster that puts out as many disingenuous arguments as Lumpkins. I would say this borders on intellectual narcissism.

Amazing stuff.

Yours in humbleness,
Kurt Godel

I can talk about set theory as well. Funny that you invoke Godel. The set required to prove the constancy of the relationships between numbers is infinite; an infinite set can never be complete. There is an analogue in the infinitesimal. Number theory interests me. FWIW, a Japanese mathematician claims to have solved the theorems that Godel's work was supposed to show insovency for.

HERE (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=proof-claimed-for-deep-connection-between-prime-numbers) is an interesting article about it.

If you are going to try and make the preacher comparison then at least get the argument right. The argument is about false humility. Preacher espouses humility, and rails the lack of it in others but at the same time displays no humility. Hypocrisy, that is the narrative. Hypocrisy holds a lot of weight in the judeochristian value. Examination of other and no examination of self. You have most of the tenants there but your regurgitation is misapplied. Read my post and try again with something that does apply.

I do not claim humility. To the contrary, I admit it right from the get go my arrogance. That isn't 'true self-examination?'

[Creepn]

The jury has a question so the court will be reconvening.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy tries to portray himself as detached and a analytical on this issue, but, in reality, he comes off as Nancy Grace.

Umm no I don't claim to be dispassionate. Again quite the contrary. You know that I have admitted on many occassions to be an asshole and in this very thread, I said that I probably needed to explain myself dispassionately.

Darrin, its lack of critical thinking skills like this that make me think you are not very smart. Specific examples. You should try it.

[clambake]

at least we know what he did with the money he lied about.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao "Caucasian" OK, tell the fam back in Yerevan hi for me.

Most of the shit you spout is straight from 19th century british anthropolgy so don't try and separate yourself from doing just the same.

For example, you are the one that claims a correlation between phrenology and haplogroups. I have tried talking to you about it for awhile now but every time I do you run away to a different sock puppet.

[vy65]

Most of the shit you spout is straight from 19th century british anthropolgy so don't try and separate yourself from doing just the same.

For example, you are the one that claims a correlation between phrenology and haplogroups. I have tried talking to you about it for awhile now but every time I do you run away to a different sock puppet.

I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

No.....I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.



Edit: Read my sig below.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

Ahh yes the asshurt king of the syllogism. How you doing?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sweet. You guys have settled on trolling over anything substantive. You could have just raised the white flag.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Sweet. You guys have settled on trolling over anything substantive. You could have just raised the white flag.

Just having some fun bud, simmer down. I actually enjoy reading your posts when you aren't a condescending dick. Which you haven't been to me yet so thanks.

[ohmwrecker]

Homeland Security is a total piece of shit. That's what I learned from this thread.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just having some fun bud, simmer down. I actually enjoy reading your posts when you aren't a condescending dick. Which you haven't been to me yet so thanks.

:lol I know mang. I do it too just in my own way.

[CosmicCowboy]

Gotta go to the ranch and pick grapes and start the 2013 wine process this weekend. Too bad I'll miss the weeping and wailing from Trill, Creepn, and Cunnilingacrap when the verdict comes in.

[AntiChrist]

Screw you guys -- I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

[AntiChrist]

Homeland Security is a total piece of shit. That's what I learned from this thread.

lol that you think he's serious

[CosmicCowboy]

I forgot all of the Trig and Analyt and Calculus I learned in high school (I placed out of it in college) but fortunately I can buy mathematicians if I need one. They are pretty cheap.

[TeyshaBlue]

Just having some fun bud, simmer down. I actually enjoy reading your posts when you aren't a condescending dick. Which you haven't been to me yet so thanks.

He'll get around to you eventually.:lol

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Gotta go to the ranch and pick grapes and start the 2013 wine process this weekend. Too bad I'll miss the weeping and wailing from Trill, Creepn, and Cunnilingacrap when the verdict comes in.

What kind of grapes are you harvesting?

[TeyshaBlue]

Screw you guys -- I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

Is this the new KFC Bowl?

[ohmwrecker]

lol that you think he's serious

Shut the fuck up.

[AntiChrist]

Shut the fuck up.

you're probably him

[ohmwrecker]

you're probably him

I don't need a puppet to troll, numbnuts.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Screw you guys -- I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

:worthy:

[vy65]

Ahh yes the asshurt king of the syllogism. How you doing?

How novel, more bluster from the blowhard.

Why don't you try and make bets on it and act more like an adolescent?

[CosmicCowboy]

What kind of grapes are you harvesting?

Lenoir and Coronado. I have to grow cline resistant varieties. I put up about 150 bottles a year.

[vy65]

Screw you guys -- I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.

I think the issue that people have is that I treat them with little respect. We have been posting here for a long time. By we I mean the ones that I am going back and forth with. Half of them are about two people that post on multiple accounts. Most of the reason why I give little respect though is because I see a methodology based on bias rather and logic and ideology as opposed to empiricism. And when people are intentionally misleading then I am hostile.

When I see it, I point it out and when people condescend me then I return it right back in kind.

All of that being said, I will admit when I am wrong. For example, elbamba was right and I was wrong as regards to self defense and presumption in the state of FL. There are all kinds of times I have been incorrect. That being said, I am not going to be persuaded by emotional appeal, bluster, or simpleminded bullshit. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

[vy65]

Is this the new KFC Bowl?

Umm no I don't claim to be dispassionate. Again quite the contrary. You know that I have admitted on many occassions to be an asshole and in this very thread, I said that I probably needed to explain myself dispassionately.

Darrin, its lack of critical thinking skills like this that make me think you are not very smart. Specific examples. You should try it.

[Trill Clinton]

Gotta go to the ranch and pick grapes and start the 2013 wine process this weekend. Too bad I'll miss the weeping and wailing from Trill, Creepn, and Cunnilingacrap when the verdict comes in.

dang i guess you weren't lying about me being the only reason you follow this case, awwwww:p:


deliberations usually take days, so hopefully you'll be able to catch my reaction after you done picking them grapes.

[CosmicCowboy]

http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/714/grapes51004.jpg

http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/825/grapepickingweekend013.jpg

[mingus]

Sweet. You guys have settled on trolling over anything substantive. You could have just raised the white flag.

People will be trolling you for months over your post, so might as well get used to it.

[CosmicCowboy]

dang i guess you weren't lying about me being the only reason you follow this case, awwwww:p:


deliberations usually take days, so hopefully you'll be able to catch my reaction after you done picking them grapes.

I don't think this one will take days. I expect to have a good buzz on and be soaking in the pool and watching it on the outside big screen tonight when they read the verdict.

[Creepn]

Great, CC is turning a thread into his own ranch blog again.

[Creepn]

I don't think this one will take days. I expect to have a good buzz on and be soaking in the pool and watching it on the outside big screen tonight when they read the verdict.

Jury just said they will continue deliberations tomorrow at 9am.

[CosmicCowboy]

Great, CC is turning a thread into his own ranch blog again.

:lmao

dude asked about the grapes. I showed him.

haters gotta hate.

[tlongII]

I don't think this one will take days. I expect to have a good buzz on and be soaking in the pool and watching it on the outside big screen tonight when they read the verdict.

Nah dude. They've already finished for the day.

[CosmicCowboy]

Jury just said they will continue deliberations tomorrow at 9am.

hmmmm. OK. interesting.

They probably thought it would be bad form to waltz right back in with a not guilty verdict. They have probably been back there playing sudoku and candy crunch trying to make it look like it was a hard decision.

[Trill Clinton]

I don't think this one will take days. I expect to have a good buzz on and be soaking in the pool and watching it on the outside big screen tonight when they read the verdict.

the jury just ended for the night and will pick back up tomorrow at 9am. so we'll be able to link back up here in the manana.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

People will be trolling you for months over your post, so might as well get used to it.


"The man who does not do his own thinking is a slave, and is a traitor to himself and to his fellow-men." -George Ingersoll

[Creepn]

hmmmm. OK. interesting.

They probably thought it would be bad form to waltz right back in with a not guilty verdict. They have probably been back there playing sudoku and candy crunch trying to make it look like it was a hard decision.

lol at your denial. Please don't get hooked on drugs because you will forever deny you are addicted. I just saved your life with that piece of advice.

There's a divide within the jury.

[AntiChrist]

Umm no I don't claim to be dispassionate. Again quite the contrary. You know that I have admitted on many occassions to be an asshole and in this very thread, I said that I probably needed to explain myself dispassionately.

Darrin, its lack of critical thinking skills like this that make me think you are not very smart. Specific examples. You should try it.


The only problem is that according to testimony given he did get his head beat in. What it looks like to me is that he got popped in the nose fell down and hit his head.

I have seen a guy stomped so bad that it caused brain damage before we pulled the guys off of him. I have hurt myself worse slipping in the shower.

[CosmicCowboy]

lol at your denial. Please don't get hooked on drugs because you will forever deny you are addicted. I just saved your life with that piece of advice.

There's a divide within the jury.

Quite possible. judging by you and your buddies there are always a few fuckwads around that are incapable of logical thought. maybe one got on the jury. Worst case a hung jury and no retrial.

[vy65]

"The man who does not do his own thinking is a slave, and is a traitor to himself and to his fellow-men." -George Ingersoll

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.




















































































































































































You're an inarticulate ideologist. I can demonstrate this by once again pointing out your inability to articulate a supporting argument once again and the flippant comment about a Cadillac.

The relationship between socioeconomics and education is well established empirically. If you don't believe me then I will be more than happy to link a multitude of scholarly works that outline how this is so. Hell, they teach it in every economics class that has ever been.

Take note of the above. That is how to articulate what you mean and why you mean it. I would be more than happy to walk you through some exercises that would help you with this skill. You clearly lack it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

People will be trolling you for months over your post, so might as well get used to it.

Oh noes!!!!

[pgardn]

I can talk about set theory as well. Funny that you invoke Godel. The set required to prove the constancy of the relationships between numbers is infinite; an infinite set can never be complete. There is an analogue in the infinitesimal. Number theory interests me. FWIW, a Japanese mathematician claims to have solved the theorems that Godel's work was supposed to show insovency for.

HERE (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=proof-claimed-for-deep-connection-between-prime-numbers) is an interesting article about it.

If you are going to try and make the preacher comparison then at least get the argument right. The argument is about false humility. Preacher espouses humility, and rails the lack of it in others but at the same time displays no humility. Hypocrisy, that is the narrative. Hypocrisy holds a lot of weight in the judeochristian value. Examination of other and no examination of self. You have most of the tenants there but your regurgitation is misapplied. Read my post and try again with something that does apply.

I do not claim humility. To the contrary, I admit it right from the get go my arrogance. That isn't 'true self-examination?'


No it is not.


You are a narcissistic blowhard.


Godel was convinced he was going to be poisoned and a theist. He starved himself. Smart man? Because he thinks deeply about basic logic?
I don't think so. So because you are interested in math this precludes you from preconceived notions and neurotic behavior?


Sure thing.


Basic idea remains the same for incompleteness. Different fundamental logic for different problems. Not very satisfying. But what is...

[Trill Clinton]

Quite possible. judging by you and your buddies there are always a few fuckwads around that are incapable of logical thought. maybe one got on the jury. Worst case a hung jury and no retrial.


i thought you were going to the ranch, fam? bring me a bottle of cabernet when we meet up at scott's place.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No it is not.


You are a narcissistic blowhard.


Godel was convinced he was going to be poisoned and a theist. He starved himself. Smart man? Because he thinks deeply about basic logic?
I don't think so. So because you are interested in math this precludes you from preconceived notions and neurotic behavior?


Sure thing.


Basic idea remains the same for incompleteness. Different fundamental logic for different problems. Not very satisfying. But what is...

Where am I being bombastic? I don't see it. Condescending and pedantic no doubt but it just comes across to me that you are asshurt and trying to ape me. I get a lot of it to the point youre cliche even in this thread by itself. Try harder.

That Godel was paranoid is not mutually exclusive to his takes on set theory. Its like me saying the sky is blue and then you going no the ocean is blue! Baseless psychobabble doesn't change that. Whatever.

As for the differences in fundamental logic I think you are mistaking the path to a conclusion with the fundaments of logic. Most of the issue I see there is just linguistic and not insurmountable. Really though you are just dissembling for the topic like many others here are.

Who is trolling who at that point. At least you guys try.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I forgot all of the Trig and Analyt and Calculus I learned in high school (I placed out of it in college) but fortunately I can buy mathematicians if I need one. They are pretty cheap.

:lol When CC starts trying to compare penis size on the basis of money like this you know you are winning.

[pgardn]

Where am I being bombastic? I don't see it. Condescending and pedantic no doubt but it just comes across to me that you are asshurt and trying to ape me. I get a lot of it to the point youre cliche even in this thread by itself. Try harder.

That Godel was paranoid is not mutually exclusive to his takes on set theory. Its like me saying the sky is blue and then you going no the ocean is blue! Baseless psychobabble doesn't change that. Whatever.

As for the differences in fundamental logic I think you are mistaking the path to a conclusion with the fundaments of logic. Most of the issue I see there is just linguistic and not insurmountable. Really though you are just dissembling for the topic like many others here are.

Who is trolling who at that point. At least you guys try.

Ape you...

It's not linguistic. It's fundamental symbolism that are not mere words.


Anyhows, when this incident first came to the forefront you already had it pegged. Now you just skirt the facts that don't suit you and dig hard for those facts that fit. Typical of some lowly party hack.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The only problem is that according to testimony given he did get his head beat in. What it looks like to me is that he got popped in the nose fell down and hit his head.

I have seen a guy stomped so bad that it caused brain damage before we pulled the guys off of him. I have hurt myself worse slipping in the shower.

I don't know why you are reposting valid arguments.

Zimmerman said that he would try and get back up and Martin would slam his head back down. He said that this went on for awhile. The ME said that his wounds were not consistent with that.

Do you think his account is truthful?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ape you...

It's not linguistic. It's fundamental symbolism that are not mere words.


Anyhows, when this incident first came to the forefront you already had it pegged. Now you just skirt the facts that don't suit you and dig hard for those facts that fit. Typical of some lowly party hack.

:lol Have you started banging your keyboard yet.

Words are symbols. If you are claiming that you have induced some truth outside of perception that you cannot make a word for then I laugh at you. I have a word for it: bullshit.

And now you are making claims as to what I thought on this subject from the beginning or what evidence I have looked at etc. I mean if you had said something and I just ignored it then that would be one thing. This tact you are taking just tells me you are mad and lashing out at me. Your tears are delicious. Really if you are upset then may I suggest you look for more productive outlets?

As I pointed out before I was wrong on the issue of presumption once a basis for self defense was established. That does not fit my narrative from before but I was wrong. In the face of that your whining just doesn't hold up.

At lest you stopped with the psychobabble.

[Creepn]

i thought you were going to the ranch, fam? bring me a bottle of cabernet when we meet up at scott's place.

You sure you want to drink the same grapes he has been stomping on with his athlete's feet and corn nuts? You might get a toe nail in your throat.

[pgardn]

:lol Have you started banging your keyboard yet.

Words are symbols. If you are claiming that you have induced some truth outside of perception that you cannot make a word for then I laugh at you. I have a word for it: bullshit.

And now you are making claims as to what I thought on this subject from the beginning or what evidence I have looked at etc. I mean if you had said something and I just ignored it then that would be one thing. This tact you are taking just tells me you are mad and lashing out at me. Your tears are delicious. Really if you are upset then may I suggest you look for more productive outlets?

As I pointed out before I was wrong on the issue of presumption once a basis for self defense was established. That does not fit my narrative from before but I was wrong. In the face of that your whining just doesn't hold up.

At lest you stopped with the psychobabble.

you flatter yourself quite lavishly.






And I claim nothing of the sort. I said fundamental symbolism cannot adequately express many complex ideas. Yet we try to manipulate symbols like some sort of simple algebra and it is deeply flawed. Enough of this crap, you have not thought about it enough. Personally I am humbled by it all.


Pyschobable...
You invented that symbol while keeping up with FOX so you can counter fools on this board? Remember to site them when you write your paper.


I am not typing on a keyboard Dr. Phil. And the irony of reading into a person' behavior and thoughts. Banging, is that what you see... Cool.
Read post 1610.

[AntiChrist]

Meanwhile, at CC's ranch...

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[Trill Clinton]

You sure you want to drink the same grapes he has been stomping on with his athlete's feet and corn nuts? You might get a toe nail in your throat.

dang, you're righthttp://i43.tinypic.com/ddgg89.png

CC, scratch that cabernet request, homeboy.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you flatter yourself quite lavishly.






And I claim nothing of the sort. I said fundamental symbolism cannot adequately express many complex ideas. Yet we try to manipulate symbols like some sort of simple algebra and it is deeply flawed. Enough of this crap, you have not thought about it enough. Personally I am humbled by it all.


Pyschobable...
You invented that symbol while keeping up with FOX so you can counter fools on this board? Remember to site them when you write your paper.


I am not typing on a keyboard Dr. Phil. And the irony of reading into a person' behavior and thoughts. Banging, is that what you see... Cool.
Read post 1610.

In the post I quoted perhaps you point at where I flatter myself. I made on observation about what I said was wrong. Hardly flattering. To the contrary, I was debasing myself, something which you claimed I would not do. Now you are dissembling. It seems that is all you do.

I am sorry that my arrogance makes you insecure. Your need to deflate me is laughable.

Psychobabble is just a term for what people do that try and apply psychological principles without basis. You brought up paranoid delusions and neurosis in a comparison of me. The shoe fit for obvious reasons.

:lol Fox? Sorry that my diction makes you insecure. Your flaling away is amusing.

Your assertion that something cannot be described symbolically is bullshit. All one needs do is make a new word for the 'complex idea.' Just because you cannot find the words for complex ideas does not mean that others cannot. All that says is you have difficulty with complex ideas.

On a final note, the allusion to a keyboard was supposed to be symbolic of your asshurtedness. Of course I have no idea what you are typing on. Your response does have the effect of reinforcing my point though. Thanks.

Please though get mad some more.

[DesignatedT]

Zimmerman got fucked once they brought in the manslaughter option. He's going to prison.

[Jacob1983]

He will definitely get raped and stabbed in prison.

[AntiChrist]

I wonder if these women are afraid to return a 'not guilty', since they will not remain anonymous.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I wonder if these women are afraid to return a 'not guilty', since they will not remain anonymous.

I wonder if you are the guy that I saw experience severe head trauma in the parking lot.

[Wild Cobra]

http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/825/grapepickingweekend013.jpg

Nice!

[scroteface]

locked and loaded tbh i guess i'm ready for people to "attack white people if zimmerman is acquitted" tbh. i don't want to hurt anyone but i stand up for myself, so will others.

[boutons_deux]

"i don't want to hurt anyone"

You Lie

[symple19]

:lmao

Classic thread

[Bill_Brasky]

locked and loaded tbh i guess i'm ready for people to "attack white people if zimmerman is acquitted" tbh. i don't want to hurt anyone but i stand up for myself, so will others.
If you're too big of a pussy to say your little racist shit under your actual forum handle that is still completely anonymous to everybody here, I'm pretty sure you're not gonna do shit when Jamal picks you up and slams you through a basketball hoop.

[pgardn]

In the post I quoted perhaps you point at where I flatter myself. I made on observation about what I said was wrong. Hardly flattering. To the contrary, I was debasing myself, something which you claimed I would not do. Now you are dissembling. It seems that is all you do.

I am sorry that my arrogance makes you insecure. Your need to deflate me is laughable.

Psychobabble is just a term for what people do that try and apply psychological principles without basis. You brought up paranoid delusions and neurosis in a comparison of me. The shoe fit for obvious reasons.

:lol Fox? Sorry that my diction makes you insecure. Your flaling away is amusing.

Your assertion that something cannot be described symbolically is bullshit. All one needs do is make a new word for the 'complex idea.' Just because you cannot find the words for complex ideas does not mean that others cannot. All that says is you have difficulty with complex ideas.

On a final note, the allusion to a keyboard was supposed to be symbolic of your asshurtedness. Of course I have no idea what you are typing on. Your response does have the effect of reinforcing my point though. Thanks.

Please though get mad some more.

Your liberal piety is laughable.

You use disingenuous arguments and feel fine about it. It is disgusting and on the same level as these reactionary a holes. This diatribe is not intended for your consumption. It just proves to those willing to take a look that your tactics are as Juvenile as those you deride.

As for the math and symbols, You're like a child who has walked into the middle of a movie. You have never thought deeply about basic human metaphor and how humans attempt to describe and understand a process that they themselves have invented. But you are above And beyond the rest of the posters, you understand set theory.

Get over yourself Lumpkins.

Yours,
g Pop

[BradLohaus]

You know you have a classic thread when math education smack is brought up.

O'Mara is right in that this case is reversed; the state is the one throwing things out there to try to bust up the defense's account. "Here's what it really sounds like happened" type of things. The prosecution is heavy on emotion. Funny that O'Mara said that early on when he talked about the underbelly of being a defense lawyer. Something like "We're the ones who are supposed to do that."

Having said that, and even though reasonable doubt is stamped all over this, a manslaughter verdict from this all female jury wouldn't surprise me. They don't know what the sentence will be on that.

[symple19]

You know you have a classic thread when math education smack is brought up.

O'Mara is right in that this case is reversed; the state is the one throwing things out there to try to bust up the defense's account. "Here's what it really sounds like happened" type of things. The prosecution is heavy on emotion. Funny that O'Mara said that early on when he talked about the underbelly of being a defense lawyer. Something like "We're the ones who are supposed to do that."

Having said that, and even though reasonable doubt is stamped all over this, a manslaughter verdict from this all female jury wouldn't surprise me. They don't know what the sentence will be on that.

This is a solid take that I basically agree with. While I came into the trial thinking that Zimmerman was surely guilty, the weak case presented by the prosecution, coupled with a masterful job by the defense (particularly O'mara), means I would certainly vote to acquit.

While I still think Zimmerman should be euthanized, I just don't see how he's guilty of 2/murder or even manslaughter. But, as you said, I think the latter charge is entirely possible.

All I really wanna see now is an acquittal, followed by brown people burning their own dilapidated neighborhoods. Makes for good TV, especially on a slow sports weekend

[boobie4three]

Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutors 'Should Be Disbarred'
Friday, 12 Jul 2013 06:22 PM
By Bill Hoffmann

Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz says the prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial should be charged with "prosecutorial misconduct" for suggesting the defendant planned the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

"That is something no prosecutor should be allowed to get away with … to make up a story from whole cloth," Dershowitz told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

"These prosecutors should be disbarred. They have acted absolutely irresponsibly in an utterly un-American fashion."

Zimmerman, a 29-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer, is charged with gunning down Martin, 17, as the two fought following a confrontation in the gated Sanford, Fla., community where Zimmerman lives — an act the defendant said was in self-defense.

In the prosecution's final argument on Friday, lawyer John Guy said Zimmerman deliberately followed Martin and "shot him because he wanted to."

Dershowitz called Guy's statement "such speculation. How does he get into the mind of Zimmerman? He hasn't cross-examined him, he hasn't met him.

"To ask the jury to believe that is to ask the jury to convict based on complete and utter speculation and that's not the way the law operates."

A day earlier, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda said Zimmerman — whom he labeled a "wannabe cop" — "followed" and "tracked" Martin after profiling him as a criminal.

Dershowitz said not only should Zimmerman have not been charged with second-degree murder, but prosecutors should not have pushed to have manslaughter and child abuse added to the list of possible jury verdicts.

"[It's] utterly irresponsible. … The idea that the prosecution can try the case on a murder theory and then, at the last minute, substitute manslaughter, even though it seems to be permitted generally under Florida law — it's a big mistake to allow it in a case like this,” he said.

"And then the very idea of even suggesting child abuse in a case like this is so irresponsible."

Dershowitz praised the closing argument of defense lawyer Mark O'Mara.

"He did the right thing by being methodical and factual because this is a case where the prosecution's case is all emotion and the defense case is all factual," the famed civil-rights lawyer said.

"Emotionally, obviously everybody can identify with a young, unarmed 17-year-old who ends up dead, and emotionally, as President [Barack] Obama said, he's all of our children."

Dershowitz — whose clients have included Claus von Bulow, Mike Tyson, Patricia Hearst, and former televangelist Jim Bakker — said the case has "reasonable doubt" written all over it.

"Nobody knows who started the initial physical encounter, who threw the first blow — and if you don't know that you have to have a reasonable doubt," he said.

"Nobody knows for sure who screamed, 'Help me, help me.' You have to have a reasonable doubt about that. Nobody knows for sure who was on top and who was on bottom, though the overwhelming forensic evidence suggests that Zimmerman was on the bottom having his head banged by a younger, stronger man. You have to have reasonable doubt there."


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dershowitz-zimmerman-trayvon-martin/2013/07/12/id/514847?s=al&promo_code=14297-1

[Fabbs]

for you non Travonz Trolls, if given the power to invoke any sentence regardless of current Florida laws.......

What would you give George Zimmerman?
Any time whatsoever?
I think his motive was good. He was trying to help stop the burglaries and home invasions in the hood, and was frustrated at the govt court systems-law enforcements failure to do so.
Traybonz 4 minutes to split is very telling.
I think GZ is genuinely sad he shot Martin, and not just because he got *caught*.
Had they just duked it out, i would hope they could have met 4 years from now and agreed they both were wrong. Maybe sooner. Maybe the next week. Maybe the next day.

Traybonz has no doubt been influenced by cowardly rap dumbfuck along with gangsta glorification. I think he probablyl did buy the mixins for sizzrup or whatever DumbF rapper calls that drink mixed with codeine. But i can't say 100%. Maybe he just likes Skittles and iced tea at midnight in the rain.

GZ is older and thus bears more responsibility imo to have been the one to take the pressure out of the situation as it developed.

I'd give GZ a year with access to classes.

[boobie4three]

for you non Travonz Trolls, if given the power to invoke any sentence regardless of current Florida laws.......

What would you give George Zimmerman?
Any time whatsoever?
I think his motive was good. He was trying to help stop the burglaries and home invasions in the hood, and was frustrated at the govt court systems-law enforcements failure to do so.
Traybonz 4 minutes to split is very telling.
I think GZ is genuinely sad he shot Martin, and not just because he got *caught*.
Had they just duked it out, i would hope they could have met 4 years from now and agreed they both were wrong. Maybe sooner. Maybe the next week. Maybe the next day.

Traybonz has no doubt been influenced by cowardly rap dumbfuck along with gangsta glorification. I think he probablyl did buy the mixins for sizzrup or whatever DumbF rapper calls that drink mixed with codeine. But i can't say 100%. Maybe he just likes Skittles and iced tea at midnight in the rain.

GZ is older and thus bears more responsibility imo to have been the one to take the pressure out of the situation as it developed.

I'd give GZ a year with access to classes.



Not just the 4 minutes that O'Meara focused on, but the 45 minutes that elapsed between the time Martin left the 7-11 till the time GZ first spotted him. 45 minutes to walk 0.8 miles? What was he doing all that time, standing in the rain? Could he have spent most of that time casing houses at the development before Zimmermman spotted him? We know he was caught with jewelry and a burglary tool at school. If these women jurors have any guts at all, if they're not afraid for their safety, they'll decide Zimmerman had to shoot TM to save his life and they'll come back with not guilty on all counts.

[Sportcamper]

"What is that when a grown man, frustrated, angry, with hate in his heart, gets out of his car with a loaded gun and follows a child? A stranger? In the dark? And shoots him through his heart? What is that?"

[Sportcamper]

Zimmerman is a wannabe police officer who took the law into his own hands. He had decided Martin was one of the criminals who had been victimizing his neighborhood, then he trailed him against the advice of police dispatchers

[AntiChrist]

"What is that when a grown man, frustrated, angry, with hate in his heart, gets out of his car with a loaded gun and follows a child? A stranger? In the dark? And shoots him through his heart? What is that?"

Lol "child"

[Sportcamper]

Why would a scared man get out of his car and walk around after being told by a 911 dispatcher not to follow the victim...

[AntiChrist]

Why would a scared man get out of his car and walk around after being told by a 911 dispatcher not to follow the victim...

He wasn't told that -- they said "we don't need you to do that".

[Sportcamper]

"The defendant didn't shoot Trayvon Martin because he had to,"
"He shot him because he wanted to.
That's the bottom line."

[boutons_deux]

they said "we don't need you to do that".

which is fashionable, rounded-off, indirect, ugly replacement for the direct "don't do that"

I piss off every fat little SA bitch who says "I need you to sign here" instead of "please sign here".

[tlongII]

"The defendant didn't shoot Trayvon Martin because he had to,"
"He shot him because he wanted to.
That's the bottom line."

Bullshit.

[scroteface]

If you're too big of a pussy to say your little racist shit under your actual forum handle that is still completely anonymous to everybody here, I'm pretty sure you're not gonna do shit when Jamal picks you up and slams you through a basketball hoop.

LMAO yeah it's so racist to say that you're going to stand up to yourself to TRUE racists threatening to riot and attack whites over the outcome of a court case. I've never been no pussy not here not in real life, not anywhere and I despise chemically castrated whites like yourself who think its the cool thing to self loathe because CNN told you so. You gonna lay down while Jamal rapes your wife if Zimmerman gets ruled not guilty?

[Bill_Brasky]

LMAO yeah it's so racist to say that you're going to stand up to yourself to TRUE racists threatening to riot and attack whites over the outcome of a court case. I've never been no pussy not here not in real life, not anywhere and I despise chemically castrated whites like yourself who think its the cool thing to self loathe because CNN told you so. You gonna lay down while Jamal rapes your wife if Zimmerman gets ruled not guilty?
Cool, but I'm not white.

[scroteface]

cool so just keep it moving then "i ain't a killa but don't push me"

[Clipper Nation]

How the fuck are they STILL deliberating? Is Bible Kemp on the jury? :lol

[elbamba]

Why would a scared man get out of his car and walk around after being told by a 911 dispatcher not to follow the victim...

He was told that he did not need to follow Martin after he was out of he car.

[symple19]

Longer it lasts, the worse it is for Zimmerman, imo. Seems to me they're trying to figure out whether it's murder 2 or manslaughter, tbh

[scroteface]

zimmerman will probably be sacrificed in the name of maintaining public peace and sentenced to manslaughter to appease the bloodthirsty baboons threatening all over twitter to riot...the dem judge, the bizarre exchange between her and the defendant and the late introduction of the manslaughter possibility this thing reads like a real life caricature of a court case tbh ultra predictable.

[symple19]

smh, pretty much

I've still got a sliver of hope that I'll get to see some good ole' race rioting, though

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When Florida becomes something anywhere similar to LA during the early 1990's and Zimmerman turns into 4 cops then you let me know.

[Creepn]

He was told that he did not need to follow Martin after he was out of he car.
Translation without the liability policy = Get the fuck back in the car!

[Creepn]

zimmerman will probably be sacrificed in the name of maintaining public peace and sentenced to manslaughter to appease the bloodthirsty baboons threatening all over twitter to riot...the dem judge, the bizarre exchange between her and the defendant and the late introduction of the manslaughter possibility this thing reads like a real life caricature of a court case tbh ultra predictable.
Please, if it's not murder 2 then it's definitely manslaughter. Zimmerman brought it all on himself as soon as he provoked the whole thing in motion.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your liberal piety is laughable.

You use disingenuous arguments and feel fine about it. It is disgusting and on the same level as these reactionary a holes. This diatribe is not intended for your consumption. It just proves to those willing to take a look that your tactics are as Juvenile as those you deride.

As for the math and symbols, You're like a child who has walked into the middle of a movie. You have never thought deeply about basic human metaphor and how humans attempt to describe and understand a process that they themselves have invented. But you are above And beyond the rest of the posters, you understand set theory.

Get over yourself Lumpkins.

Yours,
g Pop

Now you are asshurt becauas you think I am a liberal? The only thing telling here is that your are completely enamored with me. It's as WC to a flaglot but I tell you, I AM NO FLAGLOT!

Your weak ass attempt at metaphysics and epistemology reads as little better than charlatanism. You obviously did not understand what I said the first time. if you are going to claim that human interpration is inherently flawed, all that is is an admission of your part that your perception is flawed. You point the finger at me and decry, "hubris," yet you have the audacity to think that we all share the same experience. All that you have proven is that your understanding is flawed. You can speak for nor no one but yourself.

I dub thee 'Complex.'

[symple19]

When Florida becomes something anywhere similar to LA during the early 1990's and Zimmerman turns into 4 cops then you let me know.

:lol You're correct, of course

I realize it won't be anything like LA. But, some senseless rioting, a few wounded pigs/protesters, and clouds of tear gas would do my heart good

After all, some men just want to watch the world burn

[pgardn]

I am definitely arrogant. I think I have reason to be. I understand multivariable calculus, PDEs, topology, stochastics, and harmonic analysis. Most people have difficulty beyond simple algebra and I have no issues in the highest of mathematics.

Simple logical proofs like application of laws or obvious causality are obvious.



I am an actor. I am famous actor therefore I have a greater understanding of human nature. When I get into character, my empathy is so profound I can understand action and emotions on a deeper level than the common man, most of whom were unable to perform in the kindergarten play. Because of my ability to empathize, and the fact I have played both a 17 year old black male, as well as a fat gun toting wannabe cop, I can better understand what both were thinking at the time.

So this is all obvious to me, but not to the masses.

yours,

Tom Cruise


Lumpkins what is it with this constant referencing to asshurt and butthurt?
Are you experiencing some sort of anal trauma? Hemorrhoids?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am an actor. I am famous actor therefore I have a greater understanding of human nature. When I get into character, my empathy is so profound I can understand action and emotions on a deeper level than the common man, most of whom were unable to perform in the kindergarten play. Because of my ability to empathize, and the fact I have played both a 17 year old black male, as well as a fat gun toting wannabe cop, I can better understand what both were thinking at the time.

So this is all obvious to me, but not to the masses.

yours,

Tom Cruise


Lumpkins what is it with this constant referencing to asshurt and butthurt?
Are you experiencing some sort of anal trauma? Hemorrhoids?

It's pretty obvious you have been angry, Complex.

Non sequitor. My stating that all you did was admit that your understanding is less does not follow that I am saying that mine is greater. To the contrary, I only speak for myself just as you only speak for yourself. You did speak and the conclusion is clear.

Now what other famous person are you going to compare me to? This game too is cliche. You keep trying and you keep failing.

[scroteface]

Please, if it's not murder 2 then it's definitely manslaughter. Zimmerman brought it all on himself as soon as he provoked the whole thing in motion.

watching out for yours and your neighbors property isn't a crime. if trayboon didn't have brain damage from too much lean he would know that you can't just go attacking people because they rub you the wrong way. he thought he was a tough man and was gonna teach this "cracker" a lesson and got his young racist nig ass handled. dude's dead by his own stupidity, i have no sympathy. and anyone who attacks whites in the aftermath of his not guilty verdict like a bunch of animals will meet the same fate.

[boutons_deux]

"watching out for yours and your neighbors property isn't a crime"

love ya, scrotum, you're repeated proof that right wingers are blood-thirsty, ignorant racist dumbfucks.

[pgardn]

It's pretty obvious you have been angry, Complex.

Non sequitor. My stating that all you did was admit that your understanding is less does not follow that I am saying that mine is greater. To the contrary, I only speak for myself just as you only speak for yourself. You did speak and the conclusion is clear.

Now what other famous person are you going to compare me to? This game too is cliche. You keep trying and you keep failing.

just Livid Lumpkins...

You again reinforce my point. You wanted to portray your superiority in reasoning as it applies to law.
Yet you continuously illustrate a disingenuous penchant in your arguments and suppositions.

You and I both know this. And I know you know exactly what you are doing.

"Prove Chavez has violated human rights, give me the evidence." Evidence given and your reaction is but the US...
When the US was not what was being argued. And you have such a cavalier attitude, you continually argue in this same simplistic, disingenuous way... Totally disregarding the fact you have been layed naked yet knowing you have. It's pathological. Maybe I need to take ALL your childish reactions to getting called out and list them.

But I won't. I am officially bored.

Later Lump. Post again. You will crave the last word.

[lakerhaterade]

Now you are asshurt becauas you think I am a liberal? The only thing telling here is that your are completely enamored with me. It's as WC to a flaglot but I tell you, I AM NO FLAGLOT!

Your weak ass attempt at metaphysics and epistemology reads as little better than charlatanism. You obviously did not understand what I said the first time. if you are going to claim that human interpration is inherently flawed, all that is is an admission of your part that your perception is flawed. You point the finger at me and decry, "hubris," yet you have the audacity to think that we all share the same experience. All that you have proven is that your understanding is flawed. You can speak for nor no one but yourself.

I dub thee 'Complex.'

Shut the fuck up already.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

What exactly is going on with the guy from the State Attorney's office that got fired for deleting pictures off Trayvon's phone and deleting text messages about acquiring firearms? Just saw a snippet on the bottom of the screen on CNN. First I've heard of it.

[Creepn]

watching out for yours and your neighbors property isn't a crime. if trayboon didn't have brain damage from too much lean he would know that you can't just go attacking people because they rub you the wrong way. he thought he was a tough man and was gonna teach this "cracker" a lesson and got his young racist nig ass handled. dude's dead by his own stupidity, i have no sympathy. and anyone who attacks whites in the aftermath of his not guilty verdict like a bunch of animals will meet the same fate.

Lol yuck. The inside of a racist mind is disgusting. People with your mental illness really need some medical attention before something happens. Since you call him Trayboon, you must be one of those sickos who whacks off to those dead Trayvon pics on that facebook group.

Disgusting.

[scroteface]

Lol yuck. The inside of a racist mind is disgusting. People with your mental illness really need some medical attention before something happens. Since you call him Trayboon, you must be one of those sickos who whacks off to those dead Trayvon pics on that facebook group.

everything i said is truth and facts outside of callng him trayboon which is fitting for an idiot who drinks cough syrup, you are the racist sir

[Creepn]

everything i said is truth and facts outside of callng him trayboon which is fitting for an idiot who drinks cough syrup, you are the racist sir
Where are the facts that Martin attacked first?

[scroteface]

martin had 4 minutes to run away tbh, the fact that he didn't means that he was looking for conflict. nothing thus far has refuted zimmerman's account, therefore we must accept it.

[Creepn]

martin had 4 minutes to run away tbh, the fact that he didn't means that he was looking for conflict. nothing thus far has refuted zimmerman's account, therefore we must accept it.
You're still speculating sorry.

Nothing refutes his account? Zimmerman refuted his own account numerous times.

[scroteface]

there has been no convincing argument made to get a guilty sentence. either the courts gave and an innocent man gets sacrificed to appease the blacks, or he walks. we'll find out shortly.

[boutons_deux]

I'm hoping for hung jury and new and seriou prosecution team to rape this asshole with M2

“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman told a police dispatcher after spotting Martin—before he disregarded the dispatcher’s instructions and got out of his car,

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/12/bernhard-goetz-on-george-zimmerman-the-same-thing-is-happening.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=cheatsheet_morning&cid=newsletter%3Bemail%3Bcheatsheet_morning&utm_term=Cheat%20Sheet

[DMX7]

There isn't going to be a hung jury.

[jeebus]

:lmao

[DMX7]

Bang. I knew it. Not guilty.

[jeebus]

Bang. I knew it. Not guilty.
son, wanna go riot?

[boobie4three]

NOT GUILTY BITCHES!

[scroteface]

NOT GUILTY!!!!! :tu

[ElNono]

lol Creepn

[DMX7]

State didn't prove its case. More importantly, the defense proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it was self-defense and they didn't even have the burden of proof.

[jeebus]

lol Creepn
will you riot with me pls? I want to steal liquor imo.

[gaKNOW!blee]

:lol black people

[ElNono]

will you riot with me pls? I want to steal liquor imo.

needing a new TV, tbh

[jeebus]

needing a new TV, tbh
let's go bruh. trill and lebomb are already here. I think creepn killed himself.

[DMX7]

Nancy Grace is on top of her game tonight. What a woman.

[ElNono]

let's go bruh. trill and lebomb are already here. I think creepn killed himself.

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol at everyone who spent 64 pages arguing about this shit, tbh....

[boobie4three]

Hey you rioters, be sure to wear clean underwear. You never know if you'll end up in the hospital.

[jeebus]

:lol at everyone who spent 64 pages arguing about this shit, tbh....
these are my first posts here tbh. this is my first time even watching coverage and I'm basically here for the comedy, which is already delivering.

[Creepn]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

[lakerhaterade]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

Shut the fuck up

[TheProfessor]

What the fuck is the State's Attorney babbling on about? This is bizarre...

[Bill_Brasky]

Yay for killing i guess.

[MannyIsGod]

Yay for killing i guess.

[scroteface]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

:lmao pussy bitch you won't do shit, white WOMEN don't want your nappy headed coon ass!!!

[lefty]

:lol black people

[scroteface]

lol creepn the racist black militant got spanked

[jeebus]

lol creepn the racist black militant got spanked
black panthers all across the country are all cryin their eyes out, which is interfering with their riot plans.

http://i.minus.com/ibT40BJswFop2.gif

and lol, salty prosecution lawyers.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol black people

The level of racism you go to in order to be "cool" on Spurstalk is sad as hell considering where you're from. I would think someone from your neck of the woods might be a little smarter and better about this.

[benefactor]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.
Now that's funny.

[boutons_deux]

fucking Confederacy, backward, retrograd, racist as ever

[scroteface]

fucking Confederacy, backward, retrograd, racist as ever


damn son your tears taste sooooo good!!!!

[DMX7]

fucking Confederacy, backward, retrograd, racist as ever

Racism wasn't involved here. He was simply not guilty.

[AntiChrist]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

Wow.

[boutons_deux]

Racism wasn't involved here. He was simply not guilty.

You Fucking Lie

Z saw a "fucking nigga", "asshole punk" in a hoodie, "they always get away" and shot him dead. Z's racist profiling murdered M.

[AntiChrist]

Believe it or not, us Hispanic-whites not high-fiving

[AntiChrist]

You Fucking Lie

Z saw a "fucking nigga", "asshole punk" in a hoodie, "they always get away" and shot him dead. Z's racist profiling murdered M.

Fail

[DMX7]

Z saw a "fucking nigga"

Link?


You Fucking Lie

Z saw a "fucking nigga", "asshole punk" in a hoodie, "they always get away" and shot him dead. Z's racist profiling murdered M.

"He couldn't stop crying. He's a caring human being," Joe Oliver, 53, a former television news reporter and anchor in Orlando who has known Zimmerman for several years, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I mean, he took a man's life and he has no idea what to do about it. He's extremely remorseful about it," Oliver said, relating stories told to him by Zimmerman's mother-in-law, a close friend of Oliver's wife.

Oliver's account counters the withering criticism Zimmerman has sustained from demonstrators across the country who have demanded his arrest and accused him of racial bias in targeting Martin. Celebrities have taken up the cause of justice for Trayvon, and President Barack Obama said "all of us have to do some soul-searching" as a result of the tragedy.

"I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color," Oliver said

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/joe-oliver-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin_n_1378390.html

[DMX7]

This Don West guy is fucking cocky.

[SA210]

:lmao Fuzzy

[marinoman]

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/21a7270778969e0479fd47aa685773bd.gif

[pgardn]

The level of racism you go to in order to be "cool" on Spurstalk is sad as hell considering where you're from. I would think someone from your neck of the woods might be a little smarter and better about this.

Hatred and revenge are powerful drugs.
The addicts have no intention of visiting rehab.
Take a side and defend it against all common sense.

Reminds me of the people who hope the Spurs lose so they can be right about their favorite scapegoat.

[SpursFan86]

Lmao, someone please show me some proof that Zimmerman ever used the N word. Called him a fucking punk and said they always get away. Never once said anything about race.

There was reasonable doubt about how the events transpired. It's not illegal to follow someone, and it's not illegal to shoot someone out of self-defense. Take it up with the way our justice system is set up...if there is any reasonable doubt at all, you can't convict someone. Innocent until proven guilty.

Only reason this case got to this point was because people portrayed it as a racist act and portrayed Martin as a completely innocent kid who did nothing wrong. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION STARTED. If there was proof, Zimmerman would be in jail right now, plain and simple.

[AntiChrist]

:lmao Fuzzy

If only the jurors understood harmonic analysis.

[Venti Quattro]

Gon celebrate at KFC

:lol Trayvon sympathizers

[Clipper Nation]

Roddy White is flat-out retarded...

356247500937629696

[FuzzyLumpkins]

just Livid Lumpkins...

You again reinforce my point. You wanted to portray your superiority in reasoning as it applies to law.
Yet you continuously illustrate a disingenuous penchant in your arguments and suppositions.

You and I both know this. And I know you know exactly what you are doing.

"Prove Chavez has violated human rights, give me the evidence." Evidence given and your reaction is but the US...
When the US was not what was being argued. And you have such a cavalier attitude, you continually argue in this same simplistic, disingenuous way... Totally disregarding the fact you have been layed naked yet knowing you have. It's pathological. Maybe I need to take ALL your childish reactions to getting called out and list them.

But I won't. I am officially bored.

Later Lump. Post again. You will crave the last word.

You really going with the posting ultimatum? Drama queen much?

So far we have gone through psychobabble, linguistics, epistemology, Tom Cruise, etc all in your effort to make some point. When you are shown to be full of shit then you just try something else. Now I get the last word? I certainly hope so. Perhaps that will mean you have taken your own advice and gotten over me.

[SA210]

I lol'ed

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/578524_332687943462607_1026106079_n.jpg

[Big Empty]

Damn, plaxico burress spent more time in jail for his black ass shooting himself in the leg than Zimmerman did for killing the kid.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well I think he is guilty but the legal process has spoken. It is what it is.

I just hope that Florida's laws are reviewed because this is something that should have never happened.

[symple19]

Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

:lmao

[SA210]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1005603_500459113357145_1699532314_n.png

[Venti Quattro]

356242431991234560

:lol :lol :lol

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Well I think he is guilty but the legal process has spoken. It is what it is.

I just hope that Florida's laws are reviewed because this is something that should have never happened.

What would you have done if you feared for your life? Calmly asked Trayvon to get off you?

[SA210]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/972217_641809029182883_1570579769_n.jpg

[symple19]

#IfIEverSeeZimmerman (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IfIEverSeeZimmerman&src=hash) trending right now on twitter :lmao

[Halberto]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/972217_641809029182883_1570579769_n.jpg

:lol


ANd Creepn..... would you just Zimmer down please?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What would you have done if you feared for your life? Calmly asked Trayvon to get off you?

I would have never gotten out of my car and chased after him in the first place.

[pgardn]

Whoa.

Zimmerman's brother just gave Piers Morgan a verbal whuppin.

And it continues.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If only the jurors understood harmonic analysis.

It's more like, 'if only Darrin understood harmonic analysis.' We have gone through this before. You have a EE degree and if it were not for me knowing your alma mater, I would never understand how you got it with the knowledge in PDE's that you have 'displayed.'

[SA210]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/993302_259882600803449_1541139486_n.jpg

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I would have never gotten out of my car and chased after him in the first place.

I wouldn't have either, but getting out of your car is not illegal. So instead of skirting the question just answer it. What would you have done if Trayvon was on top of you beating you and you feared for your life?

[vy65]

Lololololololololololololol salty ...

Gon' drown my sorrows in a fawtbox

[boutons_deux]

blacks can't even get a break against wetback greaser half-breeds.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I wouldn't have either, but getting out of your car is not illegal. So instead of skirting the question just answer it. What would you have done if Trayvon was on top of you beating you and you feared for your life?

If you present I hypothetical that I believed happened then I would answer your question. In the absence of that, I am not going to give your premise credibility by answering the question.

I do not believe in Zimmerman's account. If you create the confrontation then you lose your right to self defense. That was my point. I guess the jury did believe him credible. It is what it is.

[scroteface]

blacks can't even get a break against wetback greaser half-breeds.

lmao racist militant coon

[vy65]

If only the jurors understood harmonic analysis.
Fuckn cock sucking all white female jury sticking it to the black man because they turn down that fuckin racist dried up pussy. Profile my kids bitches. Profile and kill my fucking kids and I'll go Doner on your whole muthafuckin family. Believe that.

I'm out.

[vy65]

So far we have gone through psychobabble, linguistics, epistemology, Tom Cruise, etc all in your effort to make some point. When you are shown to be full of shit then you just try something else. Now I get the last word? I certainly hope so. Perhaps that will mean you have taken your own advice and gotten over me.

[scroteface]

Whoa.

Zimmerman's brother just gave Piers Morgan a verbal whuppin.

And it continues.
link?

[pgardn]

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/9476243/athletes-react-george-zimmerman-found-not-guilty-trayvon-martin-case

All black athletes. This country is one big happy family. A peaceful melting pot.

[pgardn]

link?
Was on CNN. about 10:45 to 11:05 CST

Zimmerman's brother is very articulate.

[vy65]

Lol black people

[KingsFanWithoutName]

If you present I hypothetical that I believed happened then I would answer your question. In the absence of that, I am not going to give your premise credibility by answering the question.

You don't believe Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman?

[Juggity]

lmao racist militant coon

intentional or unintentional irony?

[lefty]

The level of racism you go to in order to be "cool" on Spurstalk is sad as hell considering where you're from. I would think someone from your neck of the woods might be a little smarter and better about this.
shut up, Ramirez, you fat illegal be@ner

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You don't believe Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman?

I don't believe that he was on top of him in the way that was presented in his walkthroughs and original statement. ie beating his head in to the ground and choking him while he is yelling for help and somehow unable to defend himself despite havning no hands restrained.

[Venti Quattro]

shut up, Ramirez, you fat illegal be@ner

:lmao :lmao :lmao

:lol Manny Ramirez

[scroteface]

shut up, Ramirez, you fat illegal be@ner
is he really illegal? i can have this handled shoot me a pm

[lefty]

is he really illegal? i can have this handled shoot me a pm
pm sent

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I don't believe that he was on top of him in the way that was presented in his walkthroughs and original statement. ie beating his head in to the ground and choking him while he is yelling for help and somehow unable to defend himself despite havning no hands restrained.

So you believe the neighbor who testified lied under oath?

[Homeland Security]

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/9476243/athletes-react-george-zimmerman-found-not-guilty-trayvon-martin-case

All black athletes. This country is one big happy family. A peaceful melting pot.
Makes me realize something.

By being on this website, I indicate that I'm probably an NBA fan.

By being an NBA fan, for whatever else that might mean, I am buttressing a system that gives black athletes the wealth and power to be heard.

Maybe I shouldn't be an NBA fan anymore.

Maybe I shouldn't be an NFL fan either.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you believe the neighbor who testified lied under oath?

Quote specifically the witness that says that Zimmerman was punched, went down immediately, was jumped on by Martin who then started slamming his head into the pavement over and again, then started to choke him and then reached for his gun.

I am not going to answer your generalized hypothetical. It's not going to happen as I believe your premise is flawed. You familiar with the term 'loaded question?'

[DPG21920]

I am disgusted with the general state of people. Yes, having a kid die sucks, but when you are so illogical to the point where you don't even realize how easy it is to poke holes in your "Vick went to prison?!! or "this country is so racist, no progress!" mindset it's disgusting.

People use any event to show their true colors, both sides and it's disgusting.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Credit to biernutz for this find on how fucked up the media's narrative has been.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Quote specifically the witness that says that Zimmerman was punched, went down immediately, was jumped on by Martin who then started slamming his head into the pavement over and again, then started to choke him and then reached for his gun.

I am not going to answer your generalized hypothetical. It's not going to happen as I believe your premise is flawed. You familiar with the term 'loaded question?'

I didn't ask a loaded question. I asked if you thought the neighbor who testified Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman was lying.

I simply asked you what you would have done if Trayvon was on top of you. You keep throwing other variables into the equation instead of answering.

[SA210]

Credit to biernutz for this find on how fucked up the media's narrative has been.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet

:tu

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Quote specifically the witness that says that Zimmerman was punched, went down immediately, was jumped on by Martin who then started slamming his head into the pavement over and again, then started to choke him and then reached for his gun.



Quote specifically the witness who says they saw Zimmerman jump out of his car and chase down Trayvon and start a fight with him. That's what you said happened right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Quote specifically the witness who says they saw Zimmerman jump out of his car and chase down Trayvon and start a fight with him. That's what you said happened right?

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Dispatcher: are you following him?
Zimmerman: yeah.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Dispatcher: are you following him?
Zimmerman: yeah.

Am I retarded, I can't seem to find the part where a witness sees him chasing Trayvon and starting a fight.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I didn't ask a loaded question. I asked if you thought the neighbor who testified Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman was lying.

I simply asked you what you would have done if Trayvon was on top of you. You keep throwing other variables into the equation instead of answering.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't ask a loaded question. I asked if you thought the neighbor who testified Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman was lying.

I simply asked you what you would have done if Trayvon was on top of you. You keep throwing other variables into the equation instead of answering.

What part of generalized hypothetical was difficult to understand?

The "other variables" were Zimmerman's account of what happened and the physical evidence.

I have a better question: are there circumstances that you would kill someone in self defense? Yes, there are.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Am I retarded, I can't seem to find the part where a witness sees him chasing Trayvon and starting a fight.

You are not retarded but you are making a habit of asking questions that are not germane.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I have a better question: are there circumstances that you would kill someone in self defense? Yes, there are.And you know for a fact that this was not one of those cases?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

You are not retarded but you are making a habit of asking questions that are not germane.

There is nothing in the transcript you provided that says anything about Zimmerman chasing Trayvon, which you have stated multiple times that he did.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And you know for a fact that this was not one of those cases?

That is not the standard nor is that how the law approaches it.

Zimmerman demonstrates a basis for self defense, his statements and walkthroughs, and the state has to disprove the account beyond a reasonable doubt.

Do I have reasons to doubt Zimmerman's portrayal of events? Yes I do.

And pick a screen name. Sorting through sock puppets is annoying.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There is nothing in the transcript you provided that says anything about Zimmerman chasing Trayvon, which you have stated multiple times that he did.

He said he was following him. If you listen to the recording you can hear him huffing and puffing.

[hehateme]

Credit to biernutz for this find on how fucked up the media's narrative has been.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet

This is the best page I have seen about this whole situation. Quite disturbing how social media corrupts the views of others. Even more disturbing when a non-partial side like the President decides to overtly sway the Judicial system to his liking (which failed beyond belief).

[KingsFanWithoutName]

He said he was following him. If you listen to the recording you can hear him huffing and puffing.

You said he was chasing him, that is quite a difference.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I don't think there is anyone who thinks Zimmerman's story makes any sense. There are people who are celebrating that a kid was killed because he happens to be black and that's the extent of the people that got their way tonight. They can try to justify the opinion all they want, but what it really comes down to is some people being sick in the head, happy that a black kid got gunned down.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

That is not the standard nor is that how the law approaches it.

Zimmerman demonstrates a basis for self defense, his statements and walkthroughs, and the state has to disprove the account beyond a reasonable doubt.

Do I have reasons to doubt Zimmerman's portrayal of events? Yes I do.

And pick a screen name. Sorting through sock puppets is annoying.

I can doubt some of his accounts to, but at the end of it all Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, and Zimmerman said he feared for his life. How would you know he didn't fear for his life?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I don't think there is anyone who thinks Zimmerman's story makes any sense. There are people who are celebrating that a kid was killed because he happens to be black and that's the extent of the people that got their way tonight. They can try to justify the opinion all they want, but what it really comes down to is some people being sick in the head, happy that a black kid got gunned down.

The people cheering that on sickens me, but so do the people that demonized Zimmerman and turned this into a race thing. Fuck what the media did to this case. And fuck them for now salivating at the thoughts of riots and ratings.

The only positive thing I can take from this is that the right verdict was chosen based upon the evidence that was available.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

This is the best page I have seen about this whole situation. Quite disturbing how social media corrupts the views of others. Even more disturbing when a non-partial side like the President decides to overtly sway the Judicial system to his liking (which failed beyond belief).

Yeah I didn't even realize it was this bad.

[tim_duncan_fan]

The people cheering that on sickens me, but so do the people that demonized Zimmerman and turned this into a race thing. Fuck what the media did to this case. And fuck them for now salivating at the thoughts of riots and ratings.

The only positive thing I can take from this is that the right verdict was chosen based upon the evidence that was available.

Race was the only reason Zimmerman followed Martin. It was the only reason Zimmerman was "afraid."

Never mind the fact that if a black/hispanic guy had wrongfully accosted and then killed a white little boy, he'd be getting the needle right this second. It was always a race thing. The only reason the case was talked about was because some were hoping for jury-declared open season on black males.

We should have been unified in wanting the agitator put away, but no. The kid he killed was black, so it's all fun and games.

[Jacob1983]

Change Martin's skin color to white, would anyone outside of friends and family had given a fuck about his death? Be honest now.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol breitbart. you are like right wing boutons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Change Martin's skin color to white, would anyone outside of friends and family had given a fuck about his death? Be honest now.

in a self defense case in FL? uh yeah. you are not paying attention to think otherwise.

[BradLohaus]

The prosecution lawyers aren't dumb, they're actually quite good despite BDLR yelling all the time, and they didn't make any real mistakes. They just didn't have any facts to pin a crime, any crime, on Zimmerman. They had to go emotional. O'Mara called this the bizarro case, and this proves it again; usually the longer the jury is out the better for the client. Not here. There was no way they were going to convict Z this quickly.

The fact of the matter is this: Z's account is probably, basically, what happened. Holes in it? Of course. But never anything, at all, to say that he set out to shoot Martin until the moment that he did. For goodness sake, when the white cop's son (the chief's son I think?) got drunk and left a bar and beat up a black homeless guy Zimmerman went around putting flyers on people's cars about it, including black churches. How many people would do that? Did Sharpton show up for that, LOL. I was glad to see O'Mara hammer the media people at the very end of his Q&A, which quickly ended the session, basically saying "you were fed this BS story and you ran with it."

[Jacob1983]

Man up and answer the question. There is no way in Hell that this case wouldn't have gotten the attention it got if Martin had been white. For the record, I consider myself an apathetic independent that leans libertarian. I also have stated that Zimmerman probably should have been convicted of at least manslaughter.

[BradLohaus]

If this was anything other than white (ish) on black none of us would have ever heard of it.

[Wild Cobra]

Did anyone actually think he would be convicted?

[BradLohaus]

I gave it about 3-1 NG over manslaughter. Somebody in the media made the point that when there's a dead body a jury wants to assign responsibility to that, especially when they know who killed him. I thought that made a lot of sense. But when they went late tonight it was obvious they were going to let him walk.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Man up and answer the question. There is no way in Hell that this case wouldn't have gotten the attention it got if Martin had been white. For the record, I consider myself an apathetic independent that leans libertarian. I also have stated that Zimmerman probably should have been convicted of at least manslaughter.

If you do not understand that FL gun and self defense laws have been under then national microscope then you have not been paying attention.

[Jacob1983]

Zimmerman is a piece of shit but is it really his fault that he took advantage of a shitty law? Shouldn't that be the fault of the wonderful elected officials in Florida that gave us Bush 43?

[pgardn]

I didn't ask a loaded question. I asked if you thought the neighbor who testified Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman was lying.

I simply asked you what you would have done if Trayvon was on top of you. You keep throwing other variables into the equation instead of answering.

You expected a child to think outside a self imposed pseudo box in order to skirt a question?

Its simple enough, most people would have done exactly what Zimmerman did if he was on the bottom and indeed feared for his life. All one then has to say is the evidence did not illustrate this was the situation Zimmerman found himself in. It's not that difficult.

This was the crux of the charges, period. And also why it was going to be so tough on the prosecution. Some people pretend like they have a hard time with this narrow picture. I do experience frustration with this narrow reading, but that's tough luck when considering the specific charges.

[boutons_deux]

"he took advantage of a shitty law"

he formally refused to use SYG defense.

Now, I'm hoping the Martins screw this shitbag greasebag for the rest of his life with a huge civil suit, and that some top lawyers step up to out lawyer Z's civil defense.

[boutons_deux]

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/open-a-civil-rights-case

[boobie4three]

"he took advantage of a shitty law"

he formally refused to SYG.

Now, I'm hoping the Martins screw this shitbag greasebag for the rest of his life with a huge civil suit, and that some top lawyers step up to out lawyer Z's civil defense.

Doubt that. A civil suit against Zim would be a no holds barred affair. Unlike the trial just ended, the defense could bring up all the stealing, drugging, and fighting that Martin was involved in. What is more likely is that the Zimmerman Team will go on a lawsuit enacting frenzy themselves. I imagine NBC will be the first target what with their claim that Zim said "coon" in the 911 call. Yep, George is going to be very well off some day.

[boutons_deux]

"Zim said "coon" in the 911 call."

also

fucking niggas

asshole punks

they (young black males) always get away

plenty of animus there

If you want to bring up M's history, which contains nothing about the situation Z's murdering him, then the civil suit could bring up Z's arrest record, his fighting, his record as a bouncer (an inherently violent job), etc, etc, all of which shows Z is nigga-hating, violent, neurotic asshole.

[boobie4three]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif.html)

[BradLohaus]

I think I read a couple of weeks ago that Zimmerman has already filed suit against NBC for the tape edit stuff, and that O'Mara is listed as a co-councel, and that the main guy is a friend of his. It seems like O'Mara will be involved in all legal matters with this from here on. Which means we may get to see a Crump vs. O'Mara civil battle. And you thought that this trial was emotion vs. facts....

West said that there were no winners here. Not true, O'Mara is the big winner. He's the new Johnny Cochran. Even if you hate Zimmerman you have to admit that O'Mara is just flat out good. West was good enough as well, but too much of a wild card with an angry streak. O'Mara is brilliant and unflappable.

[Clipper Nation]

Change Martin's skin color to white, would anyone outside of friends and family had given a fuck about his death? Be honest now.
The media wouldn't care nearly as much, nor would they if this were a black-on-black killing, tbh.....

[Creepn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/gzyuFLH1_zps712bb600.gif.html)

Hey idiot don't get too happy. Where were the riots? That's what happens when you make bets on fear and bullshit.


OK, for starters, at least three patrol cars have to be overturned, (cars on their sides constitutes overturned).
Let's make losing painful. Losers sig will say "I'm an idiot and don't know shit" for one week.
Meh that's fine. Add a sig pic of winner's choice to that as well.

Any other takers? Doesn't have to be the same wager.

OK. I'm down with that. Hey, what if he's found guilty and whites riot?......Yeah, I know. Can't happen.

Are you going to follow through or are you going to puss out, which won't be surprising in the least bit to me?

[boobie4three]

Whoa.

Zimmerman's brother just gave Piers Morgan a verbal whuppin.

And it continues.Found the interview. Robert Zimmerman is a smart, articulate guy, and Piers Morgan is piece of shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl8OzZDxS8c