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AntiChrist
06-29-2013, 11:03 AM
The ultimate question is, if you are in a fight and you believe your life is in danger, i.e. you think the other person may grab your gun, is it simply self-defense to draw your weapon?
ErnestLynch
06-29-2013, 12:04 PM
This is going to result in a hung jury with no retrial. It will fade away ....
boobie4three
06-29-2013, 03:14 PM
According to Zimmerman's reenactment video, Martin walked up to him and spoke the first words:
TM: You got a problem?
GZ: No
TM: You do now.
Zimmerman then says Martin delivered a blow to his face.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/06/13/george-zimmerman-reenacts-trayvon-shooting
clambake
06-29-2013, 04:57 PM
too bad george is a confirmed liar.
Ignignokt
06-29-2013, 05:35 PM
:cry too bad george is a confirmed liar. :cry
leemajors
06-29-2013, 07:04 PM
The ultimate question is, if you are in a fight and you believe your life is in danger, i.e. you think the other person may grab your gun, is it simply self-defense to draw your weapon?
Or, why the fuck did your dumb ass willfully put yourself in that position in the first place?
Bill_Brasky
06-29-2013, 07:05 PM
When you are carrying a loaded weapon you don't confront people. Plain and simple. That is a very stupid, careless thing to do. And when your stupid carelessness leads to somebody dying, you deserve to be punished for it.
Bill_Brasky
06-29-2013, 07:10 PM
Let's say I'm pretty wasted and decide to drive. I am still aware of my surroundings but still impaired. My BAC is above .14. I'm doing me best but still swerving. As i get close to my house, someone runs a red light doing 60 and T-bones me. They die.
They were sober but clearly at fault. Will I still be tried for intoxication manslaughter?
CosmicCowboy
06-29-2013, 07:47 PM
:lmao
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IRcmvF3ezr8/Tu8e-J4LTHI/AAAAAAAABMI/Y6FIhKMnEZY/s1600/Sour-Grapes-Central.jpg
All the prosecutions witnesses confirms that Zimmerman is just innocent as shit of second degree murder.
You little bitches should quit reading the media headlines and read the transcripts.
The media WANT'S stupid people to believe it was a bad verdict when it comes in so they can write about the riots from the stupid people.
FuzzyLumpkins
06-29-2013, 09:51 PM
:lmao
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IRcmvF3ezr8/Tu8e-J4LTHI/AAAAAAAABMI/Y6FIhKMnEZY/s1600/Sour-Grapes-Central.jpg
All the prosecutions witnesses confirms that Zimmerman is just innocent as shit of second degree murder.
You little bitches should quit reading the media headlines and read the transcripts.
The media WANT'S stupid people to believe it was a bad verdict when it comes in so they can write about the riots from the stupid people.
How novel, more bluster from the blowhard.
Why don't you try and make bets on it and act more like an adolescent?
scroteface
06-29-2013, 11:18 PM
zimmerman is clearly innocent judging by the evidence, blacks just want social justice tbh
Wild Cobra
06-29-2013, 11:36 PM
:lmao
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IRcmvF3ezr8/Tu8e-J4LTHI/AAAAAAAABMI/Y6FIhKMnEZY/s1600/Sour-Grapes-Central.jpg
All the prosecutions witnesses confirms that Zimmerman is just innocent as shit of second degree murder.
You little bitches should quit reading the media headlines and read the transcripts.
The media WANT'S stupid people to believe it was a bad verdict when it comes in so they can write about the riots from the stupid people.
The best we can hope for is guilty of being stupid.
Oh wait...
That isn't a crime!
FuzzyLumpkins
06-29-2013, 11:56 PM
The best we can hope for is guilty of being stupid.
Oh wait...
That isn't a crime!
If it was then you would have rid the lightning a long, long time ago.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 12:06 AM
zimmerman is clearly innocent judging by the evidence, blacks just want social justice tbh
Social justice my ass...
They want special rights to persecute with prejudice.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 12:16 AM
How novel, more bluster from the blowhard.
Why don't you try and make bets on it and act more like an adolescent?
Why don't you put your money where your big mouth is, you loud mouth little bitch?
$100 says Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 12:26 AM
Why don't you put your money where your big mouth is, you loud mouth little bitch?
$100 says Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder.
Serious? You're willing to bet him, with his lack of integrity? He would take your money in a heartbeat if he were to win, but I think he would never pay you if he lost.
elbamba
06-30-2013, 12:41 AM
too bad george is a confirmed liar.
Martin's friend is a confirmed liar. And she lies about actual facts in this case. Why so quick to not belive one fat liar but believe another fat liar?
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 01:00 AM
Martin's friend is a confirmed liar. And she lies about actual facts in this case. Why so quick to not belive one fat liar but believe another fat liar?
It's called prejudice.
Creepn
06-30-2013, 01:21 AM
Why do you hate this man and have your mind made up? Why not watch the trial and see what happens and what the truth is. You only seem to be getting so angry because you want him to burn because of his race and not because of the truth. It's really odd and to me it's terrifying to see someone be so racist they get angry when their racial views arent supported by facts.
I don't hate this man because of his race. Wtf are talking about? I have extreme dislike towards this person because he racially profiled an innocent teen and wasn't going to let this negro get away tonight. He pulled a gun and killed someone over a fight he started and lost. Coward ass shit.
Creepn
06-30-2013, 01:22 AM
Martin's friend is a confirmed liar. And she lies about actual facts in this case. Why so quick to not belive one fat liar but believe another fat liar?
What she lie about?
ElNono
06-30-2013, 01:55 AM
I've been telling my wife before the trial even started that Zimmerman is gonna walk... when the only other guy that was there, saw and heard everything is dead, you're going to have a serious problem convincing that jury.
I still think he's a little man, a cop wannabe, and hearing him tell the 911 dispatcher "they always get away with this shit" or some such, would be hilarious if it wouldn't have cost an innocent teenager his life.
ElNono
06-30-2013, 01:57 AM
and lol that rhino looking thing that was on the stand the other day, that's just cruel and a wreck.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 02:12 AM
I've been telling my wife before the trial even started that Zimmerman is gonna walk... when the only other guy that was there, saw and heard everything is dead, you're going to have a serious problem convincing that jury.
I still think he's a little man, a cop wannabe, and hearing him tell the 911 dispatcher "they always get away with this shit" or some such, would be hilarious if it wouldn't have cost an innocent teenager his life.
Innocent? Someone assaults me, they could end up dead as well.
ElNono
06-30-2013, 02:24 AM
Innocent? Someone assaults me, they could end up dead as well.
you cross the street when you see black people coming, remember? crofl
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 02:35 AM
you cross the street when you see black people coming, remember? crofl
That wasn't the gist of that past conversation. I love how you regularly spin the facts.
Why are you changing the topic, trying to make me ineffective, instead of debating my words and intent? Are you incapable of a civil argument?
ElNono
06-30-2013, 02:49 AM
That wasn't the gist of that past conversation. I love how you regularly spin the facts.
Why are you changing the topic, trying to make me ineffective, instead of debating my words and intent? Are you incapable of a civil argument?
:lmao what the hell are you babbling about? 'making you ineffective'? What does that even mean?
Damn I can't stop laughing now... don't ever change Cobra!
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 02:54 AM
Damn I can't stop laughing now... don't ever change Cobra!
When's the last time you took your meds?
You bring up a scenario that if I recall, was accused of with no fact, and now you attempt to use it as fact.
You are using nonsense as a reason that I am wrong when I'm not. You are implying a lie.
I would love to see that "walk across the street" exchange if you recall where it is. I did a quick look to prove you to be wrong on this, but didn't find it.
I challenge you to show where I said I would walk across the street.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 02:56 AM
:lmao what the hell are you babbling about? 'making you ineffective'? What does that even mean?
That you are trying to make me ineffective and failing. Failing bad.
Fabbs
06-30-2013, 07:21 AM
There was a Million Hoodie March?
I can picture every pro Travon multitroll at that. :lmao
Fabbs
06-30-2013, 07:23 AM
Why don't you put your money where your big mouth is, you loud mouth little bitch?
$100 says Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder.
Fuzzy Rumpkins has been served.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 07:30 AM
There was a Million Hoodie March?
I can picture every pro Travon multitroll at that. :lmao
Shit.
There's millions of hoodies in the hood every day...
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 07:31 AM
Fuzzy Rumpkins has been served.
That's OK. I'll pass on that rump roast.
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 08:14 AM
why do the right-wingers here defend GZ with SYG while not defending stalked, confronted TM with SYG?
Fabbs
06-30-2013, 09:09 AM
Creepin, Trill, baked clam, any other trolls posing as coons howz about stopping your racial profiling for a moment and commenting on this thread by Lefty, "A true hero passes away"?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218856&p=6717629#post6717629
About this story:
http://www.nydailynews.com/effort-good-samaritan-broke-neck-save-girl-article-1.1370176
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 09:10 AM
Zimmerman was following Martin because he was acting suspicious. If you take the time to watch Zimmerman's reenactment video, GZ says he would observe TM standing on the grass near a residence as if casing the place. GZ wanted to be able to give TM's location to the police which is exactly what the police want you to do.
GZ states that in the course of trying to locate him, TM walked up to him and sucker punched him. It escalated to the point where GZ had no choice but to shoot him in order to save his life. Before you call GZ a liar, watch the video. Point out specifically where you thing GZ is lying.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/06/13/george-zimmerman-reenacts-trayvon-shooting
Th'Pusher
06-30-2013, 09:28 AM
Why don't you put your money where your big mouth is, you loud mouth little bitch?
$100 says Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214764&p=6583416&viewfull=1#post6583416
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 09:33 AM
Zimmerman was following Martin because he was acting suspicious. If you take the time to watch Zimmerman's reenactment video, GZ says he would observe TM standing on the grass near a residence as if casing the place. GZ wanted to be able to give TM's location to the police which is exactly what the police want you to do.
GZ states that in the course of trying to locate him, TM walked up to him and sucker punched him. It escalated to the point where GZ had no choice but to shoot him in order to save his life. Before you call GZ a liar, watch the video. Point out specifically where you thing GZ is lying.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/06/13/george-zimmerman-reenacts-trayvon-shooting
GZ, as Neighborhood Watch captain and wannabe-cop-killin-niggas, he violated NW rules and was disowned by NW:
1. armed while on watch
2. following the suspect
all NW watch rules allow is callling the police, period.
If the state loses the criminal case, the Martins will ruin the guy for life with a civil conviction, like OJ.
Fabbs
06-30-2013, 09:41 AM
If the state loses the criminal case, the Martins will ruin the guy for life with a civil conviction, like OJ.
NFL pension of 25K a month that couldn't be touched, low self esteem blonde sluts attracted to the bad boi syndrome.
OJ skated. He did himself in with the idiotic Nevada robbery.
GZ will get a book and movie deal, stash the cash in some untouchable account long before Trayvons parents civil suit is finished dragging out.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 09:43 AM
GZ, as Neighborhood Watch captain and wannabe-cop-killin-niggas, he violated NW rules and was disowned by NW:
1. armed while on watch
2. following the suspect
all NW watch rules allow is callling the police, period.
If the state loses the criminal case, the Martins will ruin the guy for life with a civil conviction, like OJ.
First of all, he wasn't officially on watch at the time of the incident. He was on his way to the store. Secondly, I'd like to see a link to where those two rules are actually stated. Heck, you may be right. I just never heard that before.
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 09:53 AM
First of all, he wasn't officially on watch at the time of the incident. He was on his way to the store. Secondly, I'd like to see a link to where those two rules are actually stated. Heck, you may be right. I just never heard that before.
If so, GZ was acting as a private person, impromptu, as a wannabe-cop-killin-young-male-niggas. GZ is fucked, one way or the other.
Sportcamper
06-30-2013, 09:55 AM
Zimmerman was following Martin because he was acting suspicious. If you take the time to watch Zimmerman's reenactment video, GZ says he would observe TM standing on the grass near a residence as if casing the place.
The lawn at that point is a public easement…No sidewalk…Look again at the video…
Why didn’t Zimmerman identify himself as a neighborhood watch person?
Why did an adult male chase after a teenager with a loaded hand gun safety off?
These are questions clear thinking and intelligent people want answered…
leemajors
06-30-2013, 09:58 AM
NFL pension of 25K a month that couldn't be touched, low self esteem blonde sluts attracted to the bad boi syndrome.
OJ skated. He did himself in with the idiotic Nevada robbery.
GZ will get a book and movie deal, stash the cash in some untouchable account long before Trayvons parents civil suit is finished dragging out.
What big studio in their right mind would make/fund that movie?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 10:13 AM
yea only way i see cowardman getting a movie is if CMT makes a straight to TV film. no theater would take the risk of showing a movie about cowardman profiling, stalking and killing a teen. all them racists in one theater? it would look like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYYAeSWOlI
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 10:18 AM
The lawn at that point is a public easement…No sidewalk…Look again at the video…
Why didn’t Zimmerman identify himself as a neighborhood watch person?
Why did an adult male chase after a teenager with a loaded hand gun safety off?
These are questions clear thinking and intelligent people want answered…
Why, if someone truly felt threatened and didn't mind having cops around, not call the police? Why call a teenage girl and talk to her instead of a cop?
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 10:18 AM
What big studio in their right mind would make/fund that movie?
there's plenty of garbage in made-for-TV movies. MOST of TV is pure garbage. If investors think they can make money, they'll finance any old shit, and write it off if they lose money.
clambake
06-30-2013, 10:22 AM
Creepin, Trill, baked clam, any other trolls posing as coons howz about stopping your racial profiling for a moment and commenting on this thread by Lefty, "A true hero passes away"?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218856&p=6717629#post6717629
About this story:
http://www.nydailynews.com/effort-good-samaritan-broke-neck-save-girl-article-1.1370176
you want me to post something in this thread....after you complain about racial profiling......and labeling me as a coon?
did i get that right?
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 10:24 AM
The lawn at that point is a public easement…No sidewalk…Look again at the video…
Why didn’t Zimmerman identify himself as a neighborhood watch person?
What did an adult male chase after a teenager with a loaded gun safety off?
These are questions clear thinking and intelligent people want to know…
GZ said he saw TM at one point just standing on the grass near a residence looking around, in the pouring rain. Not illegal, but certainly suspicious.
Like I said earlier, GZ wasn't on watch at the time. He was acting as a concerned citizen trying to get the location of a suspicious person so he could relay that info to the police. Upon being told by the police dispatcher that they don't need him to follow the suspect, he replied "OK", turned around and headed back to the truck.
You watched the video so you know what GZ said happened after that. He didn't ID himself as a NW volunteer probably because he wasn't officially on duty at the time, and also TM didn't give time to say much, sucker punching soon after they met.
"What did an adult male chase after a teenager with a loaded gun safety off?" I doubt GZ knew how old the suspect was. TM was a fairly tall person. I never saw it stated anywhere whether the gun safety was on or off. Did you make that up? Besides, that's a personal choice by someone legally licensed to carry a gun.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 10:27 AM
you want me to post something in this thread....after you complain about racial profiling......and labeling me as a coon?
did i get that right?
lol
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 10:28 AM
lol@ GZ said. like his word means anything. wife beating, kid killing cowards word don't mean shit.
leemajors
06-30-2013, 10:31 AM
there's plenty of garbage in made-for-TV movies. MOST of TV is pure garbage. If investors think they can make money, they'll finance any old shit, and write it off if they lose money.
If CMT attempted to make this, the Viacom offices would be surrounded for weeks, assaulted with petitions, and boycotted. It would not be a smart move. Ten years ago, maybe? Now, no fucking way.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 10:36 AM
lol@ GZ said. like his word means anything. wife beating, kid killing cowards word don't mean shit.
We should instead believe that big fat idiot that the prosecution put on the stand last week. She's the reason the gene pool needs more chlorine. That's not a racial comment, but if you believe it is, I don't give a shit.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 10:41 AM
We should instead believe that big fat idiot that the prosecution put on the stand last week. She's the reason the gene pool needs more chlorine. That's not a racial comment, but if you believe it is, I don't give a shit.
i don't think its a racist comment at all. she isn't very articulate, i don't know if it was the nerves of being a 19 year old key witness to a big media case and having to to live with knowing she was the last person tray spoke with that night. but whatever the case i would take her word over a wife beater/killer.
don't think anyone's gene pool needs chlorine because a 19 year old folded under pressure.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 10:47 AM
there is a woman in florida serving a 20 year sentence for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband in self defense. meanwhile cowardman is going to get off from killing a unarmed teen. i hope minorities are paying attention to what is happening.
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 10:59 AM
there is a woman in florida serving a 20 year sentence for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband in self defense. meanwhile cowardman is going to get off from killing a unarmed teen. i hope minorities are paying attention to what is happening.
I'm sure blacks like TM know "what is happening", and it gives them a defensive chip on their shoulder, as in the case of TM suspecting GZ for stalking him because TM was an innocent black young male in a hoodie.
It's hilarious how the gun-fellating, blood-thirsty right wingers here love to remove GZ-murdering-TM from the racist US society blacks have lived in for 400 years.
AntiChrist
06-30-2013, 11:02 AM
All the stuff about the hyper vigilant, racial profiling, wannabe cop vs the wannabe thug being followed by a creepy ass cracka is irrelevant.
What matters is whether a person is justified in using deadly force when they are being grounded and pounded into a sidewalk.
AntiChrist
06-30-2013, 11:05 AM
there is a woman in florida serving a 20 year sentence for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband in self defense. meanwhile cowardman is going to get off from killing a unarmed teen. i hope minorities are paying attention to what is happening.
Well, when your first instinct is to use fists instead of words, you can end up dying, needlessly.
Sportcamper
06-30-2013, 11:09 AM
I understand that many of you posters lead a sheltered life, are not very intelligent and like some animals in the wild you will live & die within 5 square miles of where you were born…I get that and I want to be respectful of that…But I know that there are a some posters on this forum who wish to keep an open mind and to them I would ask for a brief moment try to think outside of the box…
Tray was not on someone’s lawn he was on a public easement…
Zimmerman at no point identified himself as a neighborhood watch person…
The only reason a coward like Zimmerman followed Tray was because he was carrying a loaded handgun safety off...
Zimmerman has no police training & poor communication skills…Zimmerman is a complete loser and could not make it on any police department in the United States…A real police officer would of talked to Tray, figure out who he was, what he was doing there & the encounter would of been over…
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 11:10 AM
Well, when your first instinct is to use fists instead of words, you can end up dying, needlessly.
yea that situation is true when faced against a gun toting coward. i could have sworn tray asked "why are you following me" first.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 11:13 AM
i wonder if cowardman's supporters will still donate to his relief fund when he is slapped with the civil lawsuit. i will be interested in seeing how far their support for cowardly actions go.
AntiChrist
06-30-2013, 11:24 AM
I understand that many of you posters lead a sheltered life, are not very intelligent and like some animals in the wild you will live & die within 5 square miles of where you were born…I get that and I want to be respectful of that…But I know that there are a some posters on this forum who wish to keep an open mind and to them I would ask for a brief moment try to think outside of the box…
Tray was not on someone’s lawn he was on a public easement…
Zimmerman at no point identified himself as a neighborhood watch person…
The only reason a coward like Zimmerman followed Tray was because he was carrying a loaded handgun safety off...
Zimmerman has no police training & poor communication skills…Zimmerman is a complete loser and could not make it on any police department in the United States…A real police officer would of talked to Tray, figure out who he was, what he was doing there & the encounter would of been over…
GZ is not on trial for being a loser
boutons_deux
06-30-2013, 11:32 AM
GZ is not on trial for being a loser
he's on trial because he is a neurotic loser
ElNono
06-30-2013, 11:38 AM
When's the last time you took your meds?
You bring up a scenario that if I recall, was accused of with no fact, and now you attempt to use it as fact.
You are using nonsense as a reason that I am wrong when I'm not. You are implying a lie.
I would love to see that "walk across the street" exchange if you recall where it is. I did a quick look to prove you to be wrong on this, but didn't find it.
I challenge you to show where I said I would walk across the street.
That you are trying to make me ineffective and failing. Failing bad.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Ignignokt
06-30-2013, 11:39 AM
The lawn at that point is a public easement…No sidewalk…Look again at the video…
Why didn’t Zimmerman identify himself as a neighborhood watch person?
Why did an adult male chase after a teenager with a loaded hand gun safety off?
These are questions clear thinking and intelligent people want answered…
Irrelevant. It wasn't that martin was trespassing, but that he stopped and was looking through the windows, wasn't walking to avoid the rain. He was just strolling. This suspicion was later confirmed to be warranted since trayvon was caught in HS with stolen jewelry like wedding bands, rings, necklaces in his back pack, with a burglary tool.
Ignignokt
06-30-2013, 11:42 AM
I've been telling my wife before the trial even started that Zimmerman is gonna walk... when the only other guy that was there, saw and heard everything is dead, you're going to have a serious problem convincing that jury.
I still think he's a little man, a cop wannabe, and hearing him tell the 911 dispatcher "they always get away with this shit" or some such, would be hilarious if it wouldn't have cost an innocent teenager his life.
You're missing alot of info here, mainly that John Good the prosecution's witness did actually see the confrontation once it escalated stating that Martin was on top beating zimmerman.
ElNono
06-30-2013, 11:46 AM
All the stuff about the hyper vigilant, racial profiling, wannabe cop vs the wannabe thug being followed by a creepy ass cracka is irrelevant.
Disagree it's not relevant. I suspect it might not make much of a difference on the criminal trial, but I'm not sold you can just brush it off on a civil one.
ElNono
06-30-2013, 11:53 AM
You're missing alot of info here, mainly that John Good the prosecution's witness did actually see the confrontation once it escalated stating that Martin was on top beating zimmerman.
Yeah, I saw that. But arguably this confrontation doesn't start if little George does what he's told, doesn't follow this guy, and let actual professionals handle it.
But beyond that, AFAIK, no witness can conclusively say what happened and who started what as far as the actual confrontation. That works better for the guy that's still alive. The other guy can't tell his side of the story.
That's why I'm pretty positive GZ will walk.
Fabbs
06-30-2013, 11:57 AM
Irrelevant. It wasn't that martin was trespassing, but that he stopped and was looking through the windows, wasn't walking to avoid the rain. He was just strolling. This suspicion was later confirmed to be warranted since trayvon was caught in HS with stolen jewelry like wedding bands, rings, necklaces in his back pack, with a burglary tool.
Yea where can this info be found?
All the Traybonz supporters keeps spewing this "innocent widdle child going for a wak to da store for milk and koookies".
ElNono
06-30-2013, 12:01 PM
The reality of it is we're unlikely to know what really happened, or how this escalated. So while I personally don't think either guy was a saint here, I just can't go Creepn here taking sides, tbh
Ignignokt
06-30-2013, 12:04 PM
lol@ GZ said. like his word means anything. wife beating, kid killing cowards word don't mean shit.
Lets look at the facts irrespective of what zimmerman has said.
1. zimmerman's vehicle was parked on the curve of the street almost near the entrance of the unit of townhomes where the shooting occurred.
2. at 7:11:33 pm zimmerman tells the non emergency operator that martin is fleeing into the town homes to which george admits to in that direction that martin was heading.
3. 7:16-7:17 pm Rachel makes the last call with trayvon before the phone went dead and the fight started around this time.
What we know is that the shooting occured near the mouth of the entrance of the townhomes close to zimmerman's truck. That's 5 min's that passed between the time zimmerman lost sight of martin and the fight occured.
If you claim that zimmerman was the one who initially agressed. then why did the confrontation happen closer to his vehicle, once martin already took off. This evidence is consistent with GZ's claim that TM came back to confront him as he was walking back to his car after walking further to look for the street sign on the adjacent street. If Zimmerman followed martin any further, the confrontation would have either happened earlier than 5min after martin got away, or near the house of the Martins.
Seeing how we both been watching the same trial and you continue to bring up distortions that have already been clarified, shows that you have no interest in real justice. You're an example of an irrational person that is caricaturized in your culture.
Too call you a coon is an understatement.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 12:06 PM
Yea where can this info be found?
All the Traybonz supporters keeps spewing this "innocent widdle child going for a wak to da store for milk and koookies".
In October, a school police investigator said he saw Trayvon on the school surveillance camera in an unauthorized area “hiding and being suspicious.” Then he said he saw Trayvon mark up a door with “W.T.F” — an acronym for “what the f---.” The officer said he found Trayvon the next day and went through his book bag in search of the graffiti marker.
Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a “burglary tool,” according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald. Word of the incident came as the family’s lawyer acknowledged that the boy was suspended in February for getting caught with an empty bag with traces of marijuana, which he called “irrelevant” and an attempt to demonize a victim.
Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.
Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend.
“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.
Trayvon was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to the report. School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html
Ignignokt
06-30-2013, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I saw that. But arguably this confrontation doesn't start if little George does what he's told, doesn't follow this guy, and let actual professionals handle it.
But beyond that, AFAIK, no witness can conclusively say what happened and who started what as far as the actual confrontation. That works better for the guy that's still alive. The other guy can't tell his side of the story.
That's why I'm pretty positive GZ will walk.
Again, your bringing more ignorance. Dispatchers are not cops nor are they any type of authority. Making a citizens arrest is not illegal itself, which zimmerman has never done, nor did he admit he was going to do, just following from a distance to see where the person was headed too.
What you're justifying is the use of force if someone is reporting you to the authorities and is following you where you are going. Which using force here is illegal. That itself is not self defense, to which the TM crowd is going so far as trying to say.
The fact whether zimmerman was armed or not shouldn't factor in since zimmerman had it concealed, it would be less likely that martin would have been anywhere near zimmerman if zimmerman was brandishing a weapon in plain sight.
In essence you're saying that GZ deserved to be aggressed, when he didn't break the law, and to which citizens in that area followed the same procedure (ex work contractors that followed a suspect from a distance) to help catch a burglar.
This is nothing more than thug worship.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 12:20 PM
This is nothing more than thug worship.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/newhoodie_zpsc6f013b1.png
ElNono
06-30-2013, 12:29 PM
Again, your bringing more ignorance. Dispatchers are not cops nor are they any type of authority. Making a citizens arrest is not illegal itself, which zimmerman has never done, nor did he admit he was going to do, just following from a distance to see where the person was headed too.
What you're justifying is the use of force if someone is reporting you to the authorities and is following you where you are going. Which using force here is illegal. That itself is not self defense, to which the TM crowd is going so far as trying to say.
The fact whether zimmerman was armed or not shouldn't factor in since zimmerman had it concealed, it would be less likely that martin would have been anywhere near zimmerman if zimmerman was brandishing a weapon in plain sight.
In essence you're saying that GZ deserved to be aggressed, when he didn't break the law, and to which citizens in that area followed the same procedure (ex work contractors that followed a suspect from a distance) to help catch a burglar.
This is nothing more than thug worship.
I never made such claim about the dispatchers nor claimed there was anything illegal to what he did. Never said GZ 'deserved' anything.
I simply stated my opinion about the character. I have no problem with people disagreeing with it.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 12:35 PM
prosecution should have went for manslaughter, smh. welp, cowardman and his supporters are going to have to cough up a lot of mula for that civil suit at the end of the day.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 12:37 PM
any idea on where cowardman goes once he's found not guilty of killing a kid? will he go back to bumming it on his daddy's couch and walk the streets of florida without a worry in the world? or will he have to go into hiding? will one of his supporters offer him asylum on their couch?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 12:44 PM
i agree with this post from an unbiased poster, paste:
Most Americans cry foul if a Defense Attorney puts the victim of an alleged rape on trial instead of focus on the defendant. But putting the victim of a Murder on trial and ignoring the defendant? All the sudden the public seems to be OK with it. Meanwhile, crackers literally said, "Karma's a bitch" when Johnny Cochran died.
To defend the Defense Attorney everybody has the right to a defense. Even pieces of shit like Zimmerman. But the public (especially cracker) reaction to this whole trial is very telling. And I really hope you house ******s are paying attention the next time you want to defend crackers.
Because it doesnt matter if Trayvon was a thug...or a triple axe murderer. Zimmerman didnt know that at the time via some magical background check beamed into his brain from FBI Headquarters. He didnt know whether Trayvon was a good or bad person. He didnt know shit about Trayvon other than he was Young and black. So he followed him. Trayvon wasnt having it. Started a fight and ended up killing an innocent person.
If he walks for this (and there's a good chance he will) it will be further proof of what I've been saying all along. Crackers are truly and hopelessly evil. But Ill be more pissed if blacks dont see the same thing. I mean damn how many examples do you stupid niggas need?
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 12:45 PM
Disagree it's not relevant. I suspect it might not make much of a difference on the criminal trial, but I'm not sold you can just brush it off on a civil one.
If they are foolish enough to pursue a civil suit all the negative stuff about Saint Trayvon...the drug use, the stolen jewelry, the school suspensions, the gangsta poses, the texts..all the stuff that has been excluded from the criminal trial becomes fair game in civil litigation...
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 12:48 PM
i agree with this post from an unbiased poster, paste:
Most Americans cry foul if a Defense Attorney puts the victim of an alleged rape on trial instead of focus on the defendant. But putting the victim of a Murder on trial and ignoring the defendant? All the sudden the public seems to be OK with it. Meanwhile, crackers literally said, "Karma's a bitch" when Johnny Cochran died.
To defend the Defense Attorney everybody has the right to a defense. Even pieces of shit like Zimmerman. But the public (especially cracker) reaction to this whole trial is very telling. And I really hope you house ******s are paying attention the next time you want to defend crackers.
Because it doesnt matter if Trayvon was a thug...or a triple axe murderer. Zimmerman didnt know that at the time via some magical background check beamed into his brain from FBI Headquarters. He didnt know whether Trayvon was a good or bad person. He didnt know shit about Trayvon other than he was Young and black. So he followed him. Trayvon wasnt having it. Started a fight and ended up killing an innocent person.
If he walks for this (and there's a good chance he will) it will be further proof of what I've been saying all along. Crackers are truly and hopelessly evil. But Ill be more pissed if blacks dont see the same thing. I mean damn how many examples do you stupid niggas need?
They haven't put Martin on trial you ignorant fuck. All the bad shit unearthed about Trayvon has ben excluded from evidence. They are just trying the facts of the case.
mingus
06-30-2013, 12:53 PM
IMO this whole thing never would have happened if both people acted intelligently and civil. It took stupidity on both sides.
GZ never should have stalked the kid. There was no legitimate reason to.
GZ should have told TM what his business was because he lacked any reasonable suspicion to withhold his identity.
TM shouldn't have initiated physical confrontation, especially in a State that has stand your ground law. He should have been more diplomatic (ie why are you following me).
TM never should have threatened GZ's life while he was beating him up. His threat is what triggered GZ to draw and shoot.
In the end, both should've and could've taken measures to keep it from escalating. But because of SYG law and because his life was threatened, GZ won't get a hefty punishment. You don't threaten someone's life and expect not to pay dearly. But GZ should pay dearly for racially profiling the kid.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 12:56 PM
They haven't put Martin on trial you ignorant fuck. All the bad shit unearthed about Trayvon has ben excluded from evidence. They are just trying the facts of the case.
he's on trial in the public eye, my friend. the smear campaign of a innocent kid armed with nothing more than a can of sweet green tea and exotic skittles gave cowardman supporters the ammo they needed to help defend their support of the kid killer.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 12:56 PM
only in ameriKKKa does the public expect a kid who was being followed by a stranger, at night, to think rational and intelligently.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 01:00 PM
he's on trial in the public eye, my friend. the smear campaign of a innocent kid armed with nothing more than a can of sweet green tea and exotic skittles gave cowardman supporters the ammo they needed to help defend their support of the kid killer.
shows how little you know about the case. it wasn't green tea.
a more reasonable alternate theory:
http://thekansascitian.blogspot.com/2012/05/more-than-bag-of-skittles-trayvon.html
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:06 PM
message to the black youth: don't wear hoodies, don't walk in the rain, run, when being followed by a stranger go home, when approached by a stranger you must give them your personal information, don't grow past 5'11, don't fight back if you feel your life is in danger, smile when you see a non black person so they don't feel threatened, make non blacks laugh to show them you are peaceful, just because skaters sag doesn't mean you get to, just because skaters trespass on private property doesn't mean you get to, just because non blacks can take a casual walk in the rain doesn't mean you get to. wake up!!!
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:06 PM
were the skittles exotic?
InRareForm
06-30-2013, 01:09 PM
You guys should be in the courtroom with the amount of time you put into this.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 01:11 PM
Hell, just google lean or purple drank or DXM
[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_use_of_dextromethorphan[/url]
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:13 PM
i'm not clicking them lanks, pleighboi
ElNono
06-30-2013, 01:15 PM
If they are foolish enough to pursue a civil suit all the negative stuff about Saint Trayvon...the drug use, the stolen jewelry, the school suspensions, the gangsta poses, the texts..all the stuff that has been excluded from the criminal trial becomes fair game in civil litigation...
not doubt, but the bar is much lower. we'll see, but I'll be surprised if a civil suit isn't filed.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 01:21 PM
i'm not clicking them lanks, pleighboi
No suprise.
Stay ignorant.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:31 PM
No suprise.
Stay ignorant.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k4x-_wriSyM/T9TVLUKTftI/AAAAAAAACYI/BMhMR0aqWPU/s320/user6133_pic34477_1326494238.jpg
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 01:33 PM
LOL
I'm actually the one that has educated myself on the FACTS of the case instead of reacting like a hysterical and emotional little bitch like you did..
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:38 PM
cowardman's life is ruined. he will once again have to make a plea to his supporters for money so that he can move out of the state, maybe even the country and pay off the civil suit. he has no skills(if he did, he wouldn't be a grown man bumming it out on his dad's couch) applied for the police academy and was denied. he has a criminal record as an adult including assault against a woman(more cowardly acts), will always be remembered as that white-hispanic guy who killed that black kid. his life is in ruins. i bet he wishes he just took that ass whoopin' like a man. i bet he regrets profiling tray and carrying a loaded weapon that night. none of this would have happened.
i would hate to live my life in fear every single day. knowing that someone might recognize me and take my life. but such is the life cowardman is facing. karma is a bitch, though. just ask that other coward, OJ.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 01:42 PM
cowardman's life is ruined. he will once again have to make a plea to his supporters for money so that he can move out of the state, maybe even the country and pay off the civil suit. he has no skills(if he did, he wouldn't be a grown man bumming it out on his dad's couch) applied for the police academy and was denied. he has a criminal record as an adult including assault against a woman(more cowardly acts), will always be remembered as that white-hispanic guy who killed that black kid. his life is in ruins. i bet he wishes he just took that ass whoopin' like a man. i bet he regrets profiling tray and carrying a loaded weapon that night. none of this would have happened.
i would hate to live my life in fear every single day. knowing that someone might recognize me and take my life. but such is the life cowardman is facing. karma is a bitch, though. just ask that other coward, OJ.
:lmao
I see you are getting used to the fact that he is going to be found innocent of second degree murder.
i know it's hard for you with your elevated estrogen levels.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:45 PM
you are emotional, though. you've been emotional since the 1st trayvon thread when you were cracking insensitive racist jokes. want me to pull the quotes??? you are also resorting to grade school tactics calling people names like "stupid" and "dumb", major sign of feelings. your words don't hurt me, doggie. i'm still waiting on you to post links on cowardman abusing his ex wife and fighting cops. you said both were dumb so be fair and post them links, doggie. so far all i'm getting from you are the dumb stuff a teen did.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:47 PM
:lmao
I see you are getting used to the fact that he is going to be found innocent of second degree murder.
i know it's hard for you with your elevated estrogen levels.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/umad.gif
i been used to that fact a looong time ago, fam. i stated in the first trayvon thread over a year ago that i wouldn't be surprised if cowardman walked. you been too caught up in defending cowardman and posting links to a teen getting suspended for smoking weed to see that. now go post them links of zimmerman beating up his ex wife.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 01:55 PM
didn't zimmerman's family member (witness 9) state that he molested her from the ages of 6 to 16? post that link since you think he's a scumbag. you said both were dumb and scumbags so post cowardman smear information.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 02:41 PM
Where's all the outrage for the black on black stalking and shootings? The stalking of innocent black families and only to have a coward with no authority do a drive by and murder families and kids. Where is the outrage. I hope everyone see's what's happening here.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 02:42 PM
If it's so obvious GZ is a terrible dude and the African American President of the United States is backing Trayvon and multiple famous and influential NBA stars are backing him and there is obvious damming evidence, why wouldn't he go to jail?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 02:58 PM
Where's all the outrage for the black on black stalking and shootings? The stalking of innocent black families and only to have a coward with no authority do a drive by and murder families and kids. Where is the outrage. I hope everyone see's what's happening here.
there is outrage when innocent children die because of violence. i have yet to see a innocent child get murdered by thugs and the community site idle. most recently was a little girl who was killed by thugs in chicago, ya boy obama even spoke out about that.
only time the media cares about kids dying and being kidnapped is when its white children, true story.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:00 PM
If it's so obvious GZ is a terrible dude and the African American President of the United States is backing Trayvon and multiple famous and influential NBA stars are backing him and there is obvious damming evidence, why wouldn't he go to jail?
he did go to jail but it took over a month for it to happen, why?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:09 PM
still waiting on the unbiased links about zimmermans domestic violence against ex fiance and molestations charges. for some reason the unbiased posters fail to post them but can find info on tray being suspended.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 03:11 PM
he did go to jail but it took over a month for it to happen, why?
I'm talking about conviction doggie.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 03:12 PM
there is outrage when innocent children die because of violence. i have yet to see a innocent child get murdered by thugs and the community site idle. most recently was a little girl who was killed by thugs in chicago, ya boy obama even spoke out about that.
only time the media cares about kids dying and being kidnapped is when its white children, true story.
Why just children? What about all the murders? I don't see you taking up cause with the tons of black on black kid murders that go on every day in the hood, why not?
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 03:20 PM
still waiting on the unbiased links about zimmermans domestic violence against ex fiance and molestations charges. for some reason the unbiased posters fail to post them but can find info on tray being suspended.
They talked about a domestic abuse charge and a charge of assault on an officer in court last week. They said both charges were dismissed. I never heard about a molestation charge. Maybe you're making it up. Provide a reliable link or you'll lose what little credibility you have left.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:20 PM
I'm talking about conviction doggie.
why didn't casey anthony go to jail?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:22 PM
They talked about a domestic abuse charge and a charge of assault on an officer in court last week. They said both charges were dismissed. I never heard about a molestation charge. Maybe you're making it up. Provide a reliable link or you'll lose what little credibility you have left.
who is they? was "they" in this thread? because they've been talking about a kid getting suspended for smoking weed for over a year now and not a peep about molestation, domestic violence and protective orders.
you posted links about tray so you shouldn't have a hard time looking for witness 9's claims of cowardman molesting her for 10 years. can't wait to see the defense blame her for that creep molesting her.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 03:27 PM
why didn't casey anthony go to jail?
Why didn't OJ?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:31 PM
Why just children? What about all the murders? I don't see you taking up cause with the tons of black on black kid murders that go on every day in the hood, why not?
i'm not a civil rights leader or a head of a media corp with a huge machine behind me to shed light on that. what's your excuse?
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:32 PM
Why didn't OJ?
weak legal system. oj, cowardman and casey anthony are all guilty of murder in my opinion yet they all have been and in the case of cowardman will be found not guilty.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 03:36 PM
Please. You still can't answer my question. None of the others mentioned (Casey, OJ..) have the support that Trayvon had. The President of the USA in addition to a bevy of mega influential superstars all poured out support for Trayvon (before they knew more about the kid and situation). If it's even 50/50, or if the evidence is so obvious and damming, there is no escape for GZ.
The only way he escapes is if there really is no way he is guilty. If you kill a kid, regardless of race, by doing something illegal, that is about as bad as it gets. If you kill a minority kid, have the African American POTUS backing the kid and Lebron James in your corner, it should be a slam dunk.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 03:38 PM
who is they? was "they" in this thread? because they've been talking about a kid getting suspended for smoking weed for over a year now and not a peep about molestation, domestic violence and protective orders.
you posted links about tray so you shouldn't have a hard time looking for witness 9's claims of cowardman molesting her for 10 years. can't wait to see the defense blame her for that creep molesting her.
If you had read my response carefully("They talked about this in court last week"), you would have figured out "they" were the lawyers. As far as I know, he's never been charged with molestation. If he was ever accused by anyone of this offense, investigators must have concluded the accusations were baseless, or he most definitely would have been charged.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:42 PM
you can't answer it either, doggie.
why are you comparing the support of a victim(trayvon) to the support of the alleged perpetrators? nicole simpson and caylee anthony had way more support than tray had. cowardman supporters painted a 17 year old kid as some violent thug just because he smoked weed and got into fights. neither of which is uncommon for teenagers in the innercity.
just because the president and celebrities back you, that holds no barring on a jury or judge. please show me a case where the public swayed the outcome of a murder trial. at this point its obvious cowardman is getting off. now i just wanna see him and his supporters cough up the dough on that civil suit.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 03:45 PM
If you had read my response carefully("They talked about this in court last week"), you would have figured out "they" were the lawyers. As far as I know, he's never been charged with molestation. If he was ever accused by anyone of this offense, investigators must have concluded the accusations were baseless, or he most definitely would have been charged.
okay and tray was never charged and convicted of any crimes sooooooo....
since you're lazy here is a lank on cowardman's criminal historyhttp://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 03:49 PM
It's obvious GZ is not guilty as charged, but we've seen enough crazy jury decisions that I wouldn't be shocked if these 6 women decided to vote guilty for one reason or another.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 03:55 PM
okay and tray was never charged and convicted of any crimes sooooooo....
since you're lazy here is a lank on cowardman's criminal historyhttp://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed
Read it. All the cases were dismissed.
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 03:59 PM
okay and tray was never charged and convicted of any crimes sooooooo....
Unless you do something big like bring a gun to school, most school offenses are punished with suspensions. If I'm not mistaken, TM had three.
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 04:04 PM
First of all, he wasn't officially on watch at the time of the incident. He was on his way to the store. Secondly, I'd like to see a link to where those two rules are actually stated. Heck, you may be right. I just never heard that before.
I believe I read someplace that supports that rule. Still, like you said, he was not acting in that capacity when it occurred.
DPG21920
06-30-2013, 04:05 PM
you can't answer it either, doggie.
why are you comparing the support of a victim(trayvon) to the support of the alleged perpetrators? nicole simpson and caylee anthony had way more support than tray had. cowardman supporters painted a 17 year old kid as some violent thug just because he smoked weed and got into fights. neither of which is uncommon for teenagers in the innercity.
just because the president and celebrities back you, that holds no barring on a jury or judge. please show me a case where the public swayed the outcome of a murder trial. at this point its obvious cowardman is getting off. now i just wanna see him and his supporters cough up the dough on that civil suit.
:lol Sorry, but when the President has your back (a 2-term minority president at that), you have the most support. No argument there.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 04:06 PM
It's obvious GZ is not guilty as charged, but we've seen enough crazy jury decisions that I wouldn't be shocked if these 6 women decided to vote guilty for one reason or another.
naw, he'll beat the case.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 04:07 PM
:lol Sorry, but when the President has your back (a 2-term minority president at that), you have the most support. No argument there.
him saying "if i had a son, he would look like trayvon" is having his back? okay.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 04:08 PM
nvmd, misread that
Wild Cobra
06-30-2013, 04:09 PM
shows how little you know about the case. it wasn't green tea.
a more reasonable alternate theory:
http://thekansascitian.blogspot.com/2012/05/more-than-bag-of-skittles-trayvon.html
Interesting.
Was the drink opened or still sealed? I thought it was odd the skittles bag was unopened. I always open single items when i buy them and eat/drink them on my walk.
Trill Clinton
06-30-2013, 04:10 PM
Read it. All the cases were dismissed.
perks of having a judge for a father. he was convicted and had to enter a treatment facility to get them waived, sad.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 06:06 PM
Interesting.
Was the drink opened or still sealed? I thought it was odd the skittles bag was unopened. I always open single items when i buy them and eat/drink them on my walk.
The juice and the skittles were unopened.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 06:18 PM
perks of having a judge for a father. he was convicted and had to enter a treatment facility to get them waived, sad.
So you are claiming the dads local connections as a retired local judge was the difference?
boobie4three
06-30-2013, 06:29 PM
The juice and the skittles were unopened.
We should consider the possibilities..... Came across this:
Trayvon Martin Shooting – A year of drug use culminates in predictable violence…
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/juices-arizona-watermelon-tea-1_zpse51f23b1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/robitussin_zpscebab0ab.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/skittles_zps5fe88a25.jpg
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 06:41 PM
It does appear that Trayvon may have snooped the medicine cabinet at his dads house, found the cough syrup, and decided to make some homemade "lean". He had referred to DXM and Codeine several times previously in texts.
johnsmith
06-30-2013, 07:06 PM
I don't think Zimmerman should go free for this, but having said that, I do think that had Martin been white, this who,e thing would have still happened.
CosmicCowboy
06-30-2013, 07:18 PM
So you are claiming the dads local connections as a retired local judge was the difference?
So Trill, if you are gonna be the gossipy effeminate hysterical house nigra at least TRY to get SOME of your facts straight.
Zimmerman's father was never a judge.
Zimmerman's dad never worked in Florida. He retired there.
Zimmerman's dad was a magistrate (not a judge) for about 5 years in Virginia and retired in 2006.
Magistrates have some judicial duties but they are not judges.
Trying to spin this like Zimmerman's dad was using his political stroke to protect him is just one more of your idiotic, uninformed, and unsubstantiated claims.
johnsmith
06-30-2013, 07:47 PM
okay and tray was never charged and convicted of any crimes sooooooo....
since you're lazy here is a lank on cowardman's criminal historyhttp://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed
The guy posting under the username "trill Clinton" has raped at least three kids.....if you can't find a link on the Internet refuting it, it must be true.
DUNCANownsKOBE
06-30-2013, 10:52 PM
When the hell did iced tea and skittles become the products you mix with codeine to make lean? It's always been sprite and jolly ranchers.
Creepn
06-30-2013, 11:26 PM
Where's all the outrage for the black on black stalking and shootings? The stalking of innocent black families and only to have a coward with no authority do a drive by and murder families and kids. Where is the outrage. I hope everyone see's what's happening here.
DPG, why do you act like there isn't white on white murder everyday? I guarantee you there is a white guy being beat up or shot by a another white guy as I type this. Where's the outrage? Trust me, there is outrage in the hood right now bout these gangs and murders. I've seen it and been to the organizations about the gang violence. According to the stats I saw, black on black crime has reduced because of it.
Creepn
06-30-2013, 11:31 PM
So you are claiming the dads local connections as a retired local judge was the difference?
Hell fucking yes! Daddy judge slapped him for staying stupid shit at first and taught him a new story. The story that contradicts Zim's story at the police station.
monosylab1k
06-30-2013, 11:59 PM
message to the black youth: don't wear hoodies, don't walk in the rain, run, when being followed by a stranger go home, when approached by a stranger you must give them your personal information, don't grow past 5'11, don't fight back if you feel your life is in danger, smile when you see a non black person so they don't feel threatened, make non blacks laugh to show them you are peaceful, just because skaters sag doesn't mean you get to, just because skaters trespass on private property doesn't mean you get to, just because non blacks can take a casual walk in the rain doesn't mean you get to. wake up!!!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/And_Then_There_Were_None_First_Edition_Cover_1939. jpg
Ignignokt
07-01-2013, 12:11 AM
Hell fucking yes! Daddy judge slapped him for staying stupid shit at first and taught him a new story. The story that contradicts Zim's story at the police station.
no evidence of that at all. why do you have to be a dumb ape and chimp out by lying and distorting.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 08:03 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/And_Then_There_Were_None_First_Edition_Cover_1939. jpg
:rollin:rollin:rollin
OT: lean is good as fuck but a nigga had to stop drinking it due to it getting so expensive over the years. nothing line sippin' a potent cup whilst jamming big moe.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 08:09 AM
no evidence of that at all. why do you have to be a dumb ape and chimp out by lying and distorting.
fuck outta here, caveman
http://i39.tinypic.com/2rcalax.gif
IceColdBrewski
07-01-2013, 01:57 PM
...he has a criminal record as an adult including assault against a woman(more cowardly acts), will always be remembered as that white-hispanic guy who killed that black kid. his life is in ruins. i bet he wishes he just took that ass whoopin' like a man. i bet he regrets profiling tray and carrying a loaded weapon that night. none of this would have happened.
:lol @ "white-hispanic guy"
Did you just make up a new racial category? Sorry, but I don't think I've ever seen the "white-hispanic" check-box on a census form. :lol
Why don't you just call him a white guy? That's how you want to see him obviously. Because that's what the liberal media wanted you to think when this whole thing started, and sheep like you took the bait. Hook, line, and sinker.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 01:59 PM
its quieter than a mouse pissing on cotton in here. i haven't been following the trial today but i hear cowardman is on the stand lying his ass off.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 02:05 PM
its quieter than a mouse pissing on cotton in here. i haven't been following the trial today but i hear cowardman is on the stand lying his ass off.
Ya they are playing that lying ass video of the re-enactment.
"OOH! you got me!"
boutons_deux
07-01-2013, 02:05 PM
:lol @ "white-hispanic guy"
Did you just make up a new racial category? Sorry, but I don't think I've ever seen the "white-hispanic" check-box on a census form. :lol
Why don't you just call him a white guy? That's how you want to see him obviously. Because that's what the liberal media wanted you to think when this whole thing started, and sheep like you took the bait. Hook, line, and sinker.
the typical "hispanic" in USA is really mostly Native (south/central/north) American with Spanish family name.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 02:06 PM
:lol @ "white-hispanic guy"
Did you just make up a new racial category? Sorry, but I don't think I've ever seen the "white-hispanic" check-box on a census form. :lol
Why don't you just call him a white guy? That's how you want to see him obviously. Because that's what the liberal media wanted you to think when this whole thing started, and sheep like you took the bait. Hook, line, and sinker.
ummm his father is white and his mother is hispanic.
his race is white and his ethinicity is hispanic....you gotta be trolling me right now.
paste: " While collecting population data, the Census Bureau now identifies the white racial category as "white, non-Hispanic," and allows for Latinos to use both racial and ethnic identifiers to categorize themselves (http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf). Some groups of Latinos, such as Afro Latinos, often self-identify in both racial and ethnic terms."
we have afro-hispanics/afro-latinos as well...
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 02:06 PM
its quieter than a mouse pissing on cotton in here. i haven't been following the trial today but i hear cowardman is on the stand lying his ass off.
No shit? Prosecution must be out of witnesses then.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 02:07 PM
Ya they are playing that lying ass video of the re-enactment.
"OOH! you got me!"
lol yea my buddy sent me a text saying cowardman is describing tray like some movie villian. said cowardman said after tray got shot, he he was still talking shit.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 02:10 PM
he said tray was upsest he called the cops? how would tray know he called the cops prior to him being confronted? he also lied about not knowing if the dispatcher asked if he was following him or not when on the tape he says "im gonna follow him".
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 02:10 PM
Zimmerman is NOT on the stand.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 02:28 PM
The prosecution just handed the defense a gift by showing that Zimmerman reenactment video. GZ comes off as VERY believable. Not looking good for you Saint Trayvon worshipers.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 02:32 PM
The prosecution just handed the defense a gift by showing that Zimmerman reenactment video. GZ comes off as VERY believable. Not looking good for you Saint Trayvon worshipers.
Huh? He said he told dispatchers that Trayvon circled the car. The dispatch recording says nothing about him circling his car. Geez never seen so many people eat up the words of a lying murderer.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 02:33 PM
he said tray was upsest he called the cops? how would tray know he called the cops prior to him being confronted? he also lied about not knowing if the dispatcher asked if he was following him or not when on the tape he says "im gonna follow him".
Never heard that, but I did hear GZ say that as he was screaming, TM held one hand over his mouth and one over his nose as he was slamming his head into the concrete.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 02:34 PM
Never heard that, but I did hear GZ say that as he was screaming, TM held one hand over his mouth and one over his nose as he was slamming his head into the concrete.
lol how do you slam someone's head while covering his mouth with one hand and his nose with the other?
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 02:48 PM
lol how do you slam someone's head while covering his mouth with one hand and his nose with the other?
I don't know. Ask Trayvon.....Oh wait...
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 02:49 PM
Huh? He said he told dispatchers that Trayvon circled the car. The dispatch recording says nothing about him circling his car. Geez never seen so many people eat up the words of a lying murderer.
FRY HIM!
Creepn
07-01-2013, 02:56 PM
FRY HIM!
lol so I told you a blatant lie that Zimmerman said very believably but yet you still eat up everything he says. Go ahead and tell Fuzzy to order you some pom-poms and stop with the faux-unbiased presentation.
AntiChrist
07-01-2013, 02:56 PM
Why no Million Hoodie March for this kid?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/lil-snupe-funeral_n_3525823.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 02:58 PM
lol so I told you a blatant lie that Zimmerman said very believably but yet you still eat up everything he says. Go ahead and tell Fuzzy to order you some pom-poms and stop with the faux-unbiased presentation.
:lol
Guess Creepn was there since he knows it was a blatant lie. Why aren't you a witness for the prosecution?
Creepn
07-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Why no Million Hoodie March for this kid?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/lil-snupe-funeral_n_3525823.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Looks like they caught the guy and isn't trying to sweep the murder under the carpet.
Next.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 03:00 PM
:lol
Guess Creepn was there since he knows it was a blatant lie. Why aren't you a witness for the prosecution?
I take it you're not watching the trial. The video shows Zimmerman saying, (out of his mouth), that he told dispatcher that Trayvon was circling his car. In the dispatch recording, Zimmerman says nothing of the sort. What's the difficulty here genius?
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:01 PM
Who is this serrano guy Twitter is talking about? The tweets are giving me so much life right now.
AntiChrist
07-01-2013, 03:02 PM
Looks like they caught the guy and isn't trying to sweep the murder under the carpet.
Next.
Wrong. Not many people even know about this case because the perp is the same race as the victim.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 03:05 PM
Wrong. Not many people even know about this case because the perp is the same race as the victim.
Trust me, there are many murders you don't know a lot about.
Next.
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 03:06 PM
I take it you're not watching the trial. The video shows Zimmerman saying, (out of his mouth), that Trayvon was circling his car. In the dispatch recording, Zimmerman says nothing of the sort. What's the difficulty here genius?
I just don't see the trial altering significance but I'n not as invested in the angelic Trayvon as you and trill are..
Creepn
07-01-2013, 03:08 PM
I just don't see the trial altering significance but I'n not as invested in the angelic Trayvon as you and trill are..
Yes you are. You are so invested that you are not willing to admit that flat out blatant lie I pointed out.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 03:10 PM
lol so I told you a blatant lie that Zimmerman said very believably but yet you still eat up everything he says. Go ahead and tell Fuzzy to order you some pom-poms and stop with the faux-unbiased presentation.
I'm betting the jury won't hold it against him for that little inconsequential memory slip, but if you need to embrace it to give you some hope, have at it.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 03:11 PM
I'm betting the jury won't hold it against him for that little inconsequential memory slip, but if you need to embrace it to give you some hope, have at it.
LMAO MEMORY SLIP!?!?! Is that what they call it nowadays? Wow.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:14 PM
I just don't see the trial altering significance but I'n not as invested in the angelic Trayvon as you and trill are..
Rofl bullshit. You probably have just as many or more posts than I do in these threads. When ya boy walks I can't wait to see your emotional posts of glee. rhinestone cowboy.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 03:19 PM
LMAO MEMORY SLIP!?!?! Is that what they call it nowadays? Wow.
Nobody thinks that's important but you and the rest of Hoodie Nation, which I doubt any of the jury are members.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:26 PM
quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton
Fabbs
07-01-2013, 03:27 PM
Zimmerman is NOT on the stand.
:lol
I think everyone except the Traybonz Trolls knew that.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-01-2013, 03:28 PM
Nobody thinks that's important but you and the rest of Hoodie Nation, which I doubt any of the jury are members.
Speak for yourself, shitbreath.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:30 PM
"He jumped out from the bushes, and he said 'what the [expletive] is your problem homie?'"
:lmao at trayvon jumping out the bushes like the bogeyman. my first time hearing this. * goes back to read live feed*
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:31 PM
who said he was on the stand? please quote that, thanks =)
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:32 PM
"what the fuck is your problem, you jive turkey!":rollin
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 03:32 PM
Speak for yourself, shitbreath.
Flail away dipshit.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-01-2013, 03:37 PM
Flail away dipshit.
I have nothing to add other than to say you speak --poorly I might add-- only for yourself. I don't like making shit up about 'nobody else.' That's your gig.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:38 PM
"He is mounted on top of me, and I just shot him, and he falls off. And he's like "Alright you got it, you got it."
so tray got shot point blank range, in the heart hitting a major arterie and was able to speak a full sentence? he died like this?
http://i41.tinypic.com/15qruio.gif
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:51 PM
3:39 p.m. ET: "He can see you're following him... instead of having conversation with him, you put up your window?" Singleton asked.
"Yes ma'am," said Zimmerman.
She explains how that might have seemed creepy to Martin.
angrydude
07-01-2013, 03:51 PM
This is why there is a trial: so the jury can weigh the totality of the evidence.
Any one, two, or even handful of discrepancies in a police statement isn't enough to convict or acquit.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:53 PM
3:55 p.m. ET: "At this point he has to be hiding from you?" asked Serino.
"I don't remember," said Zimmerman.
"The law of physics says he's hiding from you. He couldn't have made it home and come back to attack you in that time," said Serino.
"I wasn't following him, I was just going in the same direction as he was," said Zimmerman.
"That's following," said Serino.
3:52 p.m. ET: "It sounds like he's running as to get away from you... but what kind of run was it? You can't say?" asked Serino.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 03:54 PM
4:03 p.m. ET: Serino plays a 911 call for Zimmerman, which was made by a neighbor and captures screaming in the background.
"You hear that voice in the background? That's you. You hear yourself?" asked Serino.
"That doesn't even sound like me," said Zimmerman.
Serino starts playing the 911 call again.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 04:05 PM
4:03 p.m. ET: Serino plays a 911 call for Zimmerman, which was made by a neighbor and captures screaming in the background.
"You hear that voice in the background? That's you. You hear yourself?" asked Serino.
"That doesn't even sound like me," said Zimmerman.
Serino starts playing the 911 call again.
Most people say "That doesn't sound like me" after hearing a recording of their voice.
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 04:13 PM
who said he was on the stand? please quote that, thanks =)
It was YOU, dumbass...
its quieter than a mouse pissing on cotton in here. i haven't been following the trial today but i hear cowardman is on the stand lying his ass off.
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 04:15 PM
"He is mounted on top of me, and I just shot him, and he falls off. And he's like "Alright you got it, you got it."
so tray got shot point blank range, in the heart hitting a major arterie and was able to speak a full sentence? he died like this?
http://i41.tinypic.com/15qruio.gif
It was just a 9. Didn't even exit.
And yeah, people don't always die like in the movies dumbass.
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 04:26 PM
Most people say "That doesn't sound like me" after hearing a recording of their voice.
not barry white
johnsmith
07-01-2013, 04:31 PM
not barry white
Or James Earl Jones.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 04:39 PM
4:03 p.m. ET: Serino plays a 911 call for Zimmerman, which was made by a neighbor and captures screaming in the background.
"You hear that voice in the background? That's you. You hear yourself?" asked Serino.
"That doesn't even sound like me," said Zimmerman.
Serino starts playing the 911 call again.
lol So Zim hears a voice screaming "heeeeelp heeelp" and he says "that doesn't even sound like me"? LMAO!
Creepn
07-01-2013, 04:41 PM
Most people say "That doesn't sound like me" after hearing a recording of their voice.
You just killed somebody, you don't want to leave ANY doubt. If a cop asks if that is you screaming, you say without hesitation, HELL YES THAT'S ME SCREAMING!
It's no surprised you would go this far to defend that fat lying turd if you claim that blatant lie I pointed out was just a "memory slip".
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 04:44 PM
You just killed somebody, you don't want to leave ANY doubt. If a cop asks if that is you screaming, you say without hesitation, HELL YES THAT'S ME SCREAMING!
It's no surprised you would go this far to defend that fat lying turd if you claim that blatant lie I pointed out was just a "memory slip".
that's definitely what a guilty person would do.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 04:51 PM
It's no surprised you would go this far to defend that fat lying turd if you claim that blatant lie I pointed out was just a "memory slip".
Did this minor inconsistency trouble the interviewing officers? If not, why do you keep harping on it?
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 04:54 PM
that's definitely what a guilty person would do.
Exactly. There's definitely a disconnect from reality with these Martin fans.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 04:56 PM
that's definitely what a guilty person would do.
So you just shot someone in self defense after screaming for help and your answer, to not appear guilty, would be, "That doesn't sound like me."?
Do you ride your tractor backwards?
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 04:56 PM
It was YOU, dumbass...
said i heard he was on the stand. didn't say he was on the stand, so.....
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 04:57 PM
It was just a 9. Didn't even exit.
And yeah, people don't always die like in the movies dumbass.
^^emotionally invested post
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 04:59 PM
initial interview with sanford police: sorry officer, but that doesn't sound like me screaming help.
present day: yes, that was me screaming help
this fat schmuck caught in a boldfaced lie again:lmao
Trill Clinton
07-01-2013, 05:00 PM
So you just shot someone in self defense after screaming for help and your answer, to not appear guilty, would be, "That doesn't sound like me."?
Do you ride your tractor backwards?
he's a rhinestone cowboy, so i assume he rides his tractor reverse cowgirl whilst sipping a natty light margarita.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 05:04 PM
initial interview with sanford police: sorry officer, but that doesn't sound like me screaming help.
present day: yes, that was me screaming help
this fat schmuck caught in a boldfaced lie again:lmao
"That was me screaming but it doesn't sound like me". Perfectly believable except to liberal infected minds.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 05:05 PM
initial interview with sanford police: sorry officer, but that doesn't sound like me screaming help.
present day: yes, that was me screaming help
this fat schmuck caught in a boldfaced lie again:lmao
lol I can almost hear the slap from Daddy judge in between that.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 05:07 PM
"That was me screaming but it doesn't sound like me". Perfectly believable except to liberal infected minds.
lol this idiot. Look at him slopping up those lies like a 2 dollar whore needing bus money to make it in time to the homeless shelter.
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 05:08 PM
he's a rhinestone cowboy, so i assume he rides his tractor reverse cowgirl whilst sipping a natty light margarita.
says the faggot house nigra.
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 05:10 PM
:lmao @ you two.
The impartial lawyer analysts are saying that the prosecution just got their ass kicked for the 6th day in a row.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 05:12 PM
Here's a scenerio:
A man is recorded killing a girl and she's screaming for help. Then the cop asks him, "Is that you screaming?" and the murderer replies, "Yes, it doesn't sound like me but yes, that is me screaming.".
"Case closed johnson! That was easy. Let's get some donuts!"
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 05:12 PM
lol this idiot. Look at him slopping up those lies like a 2 dollar whore needing bus money to make it in time to the homeless shelter.
You and Fuzzball have shit for brains. You wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face.
TeyshaBlue
07-01-2013, 05:13 PM
he's a rhinestone cowboy, so i assume he rides his tractor reverse cowgirl whilst sipping a natty light margarita.
sorry, cc. That's fucking funny.:lol
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 05:14 PM
Here's a scenerio:
A man is recorded killing a girl and she's screaming for help. Then the cop asks him, "Is that you screaming?" and the murderer replies, "Yes, it doesn't sound like me but yes, that is me screaming.".
My goodness you're an idiot.
Creepn
07-01-2013, 05:16 PM
You and Fuzzball have shit for brains. You wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face.
lol look who's talking. "Memory slip".
CosmicCowboy
07-01-2013, 05:25 PM
lol look who's talking. "Memory slip".
Bottom line, no matter how much you jack off over minor testimony inconsistencies the state has gotten it's ass kicked on the evidence. There was no murder.
boobie4three
07-01-2013, 05:29 PM
Trial wrapped up for day and Serino just kicked the prosecution in the balls. Serino said at one point in a later interview that he told Zimmerman that the whole incident was caught on video tape in order to see what Zimmerman's reaction was. He said GZ replied "Thank God". When asked by the defense lawyer what he gathered from GZ's reaction, Serino said he now knew GZ was telling the truth about the incident. GAME SET MATCH
AntiChrist
07-01-2013, 05:40 PM
Too bad TM didn't have some buddies with him. But then again, they'd prolly be standing around, filming with their cell phones, saying "World Star! World Star!".
Fabbs
07-01-2013, 07:01 PM
Trial wrapped up for day and Serino just kicked the prosecution in the balls. Serino said at one point in a later interview that he told Zimmerman that the whole incident was caught on video tape in order to see what Zimmerman's reaction was. He said GZ replied "Thank God". When asked by the defense lawyer what he gathered from GZ's reaction, Serino said he now knew GZ was telling the truth about the incident. GAME SET MATCH
Boom.
InRareForm
07-01-2013, 08:11 PM
Zimmerman has lies all over lol, it's hillarious..... but I think the reasonable doubt is there.
cheguevara
07-01-2013, 10:54 PM
Looks like Pedro will get off. Let the black rioting and feeces flinging begin
Wild Cobra
07-02-2013, 02:04 AM
:lmao @ you two.
The impartial lawyer analysts are saying that the prosecution just got their ass kicked for the 6th day in a row.
Those bringing this case to court need to be disbarred. What a fucking joke. What a waste of tax dollars.
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 07:47 AM
Those bringing this case to court need to be disbarred. What a fucking joke. What a waste of tax dollars.
I don't know if Sanford Police Investigator Chris Serino is done testifying, but I'm hoping the defense gets a chance to ask him this question: "Well if the evidence to you showed that Zimmerman was telling the truth and was indeed defending himself, why did you charge him?". To which his answer SHOULD be " Special Prosecutor Angela Corey ordered me to". He should then be asked if he knows why she ordered it.
The heat's on Corey already:
Judge defers ruling on whether prosecutors in Angela Corey's office withheld documents from defense
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/matt-dixon/2013-06-07/judge-defers-ruling-whether-prosecutors-angela-coreys
Fabbs
07-02-2013, 09:47 AM
But (Judge) Nelson said the back-and-forth in Thursday’s hearing was bogging down the court when she still needed to hear testimony about an audio expert who analyzed a 911 recording of the fatal encounter between Zimmerman and Martin.
Oh sorry we have to move on from this and get to the audio because it's "bogging down the court"??!!
Someone had posted earlier that this judge seems like a pro prosecution twunt.
True?
What is up with delaying this monumental ruling until after the trial? :lol
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 10:15 AM
From the little I have seen of the actual trial the judge seems pretty neutral.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 11:10 AM
Trial wrapped up for day and Serino just kicked the prosecution in the balls. Serino said at one point in a later interview that he told Zimmerman that the whole incident was caught on video tape in order to see what Zimmerman's reaction was. He said GZ replied "Thank God". When asked by the defense lawyer what he gathered from GZ's reaction, Serino said he now knew GZ was telling the truth about the incident. GAME SET MATCH
Apparently prosecution objected this morning and the judge had the statement stricken from the record and instructed the jury to disregard it. I'm not watching...did the defense get to re-ask the question in a less objectionable way?
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 11:14 AM
Apparently prosecution objected this morning and the judge had the statement stricken from the record and instructed the jury to disregard it. I'm not watching...did the defense get to re-ask the question in a less objectionable way?
It didn't sound like defense tried to re-ask that question. Defense probably figured the jury already heard it and they're not going to forget it no matter what the judge tells them.
JudynTX
07-02-2013, 01:51 PM
This was God's plan? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight (According to GZ's interview on Hannity) I watched it for the first time today.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 01:57 PM
The prosecution is doing George Z a HUGE favor getting all this into evidence. It gives Z the opportunity to get his side of events into the record without actually having to testify and be subject to cross examination.
Creepn
07-02-2013, 02:11 PM
This was God's plan? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight (According to GZ's interview on Hannity) I watched it for the first time today.
Even Hannity didn't believe his lies. Zimmerman said Martin was running, then after Hannity confronted his contradictions, Zimmerman says that he was "skipping". :rolleyes
Sportcamper
07-02-2013, 02:20 PM
The prosecution is doing George Z a HUGE favor getting all this into evidence. It gives Z the opportunity to get his side of events into the record without actually having to testify and be subject to cross examination.
No joke...
JudynTX
07-02-2013, 02:22 PM
Even Hannity didn't believe his lies. Zimmerman said Martin was running, then after Hannity confronted his contradictions, Zimmerman says that he was "skipping". :rolleyes
No fucking shit. Who skips these days?
Creepn
07-02-2013, 02:46 PM
The prosecution is doing George Z a HUGE favor getting all this into evidence. It gives Z the opportunity to get his side of events into the record without actually having to testify and be subject to cross examination.
Does Zimmerman have the balls to even get on the stand? He did shoot a teen so I doubt it but man I hope he gets on the stand. If he's innocent, why doesn't he proclaim his innocence once and for all? The truth is all you need to pass a rigorous cross examination.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 02:55 PM
Does Zimmerman have the balls to even get on the stand? He did shoot a teen so I doubt it but man I hope he gets on the stand. If he's innocent, why doesn't he proclaim his innocence once and for all? The truth is all you need to pass a rigorous cross examination.
LOL he isn't (or at least his attorneys aren't) as stupid as you are. They have clearly won, thanks to the inept prosecution. No sense in tempting fate.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 02:58 PM
O'mara should just rest without calling a single witness.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 03:01 PM
Let the prosecution try to put a nice neat bow around all the shit they have thrown on the table and look like fools...then come back with the defense rebuttal and close and connect all the dots for self defense.
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 03:10 PM
The evidence is so overwhelming in favor of the defense, I would think that at some point Mark O'Mara would ask that the case be dismissed. Why take a chance and let 6 crazy women decide?....Well, POSSIBLY crazy.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 03:15 PM
The evidence is so overwhelming in favor of the defense, I would think that at some point Mark O'Mara would ask that the case be dismissed. Why take a chance and let 6 crazy women decide?....Well, POSSIBLY crazy.
He can ask, but as politically charged as this case is with the dumbasses like Trill and Creepin all worked up there is no way the judge dismisses it.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-02-2013, 03:16 PM
I see a lot of claims and very little analysis from the Zimmerman crowd. The closest I have seen was CC's claim of what 'independent lawyers' conclusions have been.
Mostly bluster and little to no substance. Nice circle jerk guys.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 03:20 PM
I see a lot of claims and very little analysis from the Zimmerman crowd. The closest I have seen was CC's claim of what 'independent lawyers' conclusions have been.
Mostly bluster and little to no substance. Nice circle jerk guys.
:lmao
google is your friend, fuckwad.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-02-2013, 03:27 PM
:lmao
google is your friend, fuckwad.
Articulation is yours, dimwit.
My interest in this case has more to do with how it underscores how race dominates our politics and how FLorida laws are pretty asinine.
I just think it's funny how you three are acting. It seems more like a pep rally, "We're gonna win," than it does any interest in analysis. That goes back to my first point.
I don't care who 'wins.' Kid remains dead and I learned long ago to reserve judgment when dealing with those you have no interaction with.
But anyway, on with your pep rally guys.
Trill Clinton
07-02-2013, 03:41 PM
so i'm hearing that a nurse or doctor or whatever was making o'mara look foolish. heard he was trying his best to discredit her and get her to say cowardman's injuries life threatening but she wouldn't budge.
Trill Clinton
07-02-2013, 03:42 PM
oh and CC would be just as a horrible lawyer as myself and creepn. i don't know why he keeps talking about how we would suck as lawyers like he's robert shapiro. sit yo country ass down.
haha at calling it politically charged. it goes both ways, doggie. if cowardman was found guilty, his team of conservative, gun toting, red neck supporters would be ready to throw more money at an appeal hearing in the honor of saint george. fuck outta here.
Trill Clinton
07-02-2013, 03:47 PM
I see a lot of claims and very little analysis from the Zimmerman crowd. The closest I have seen was CC's claim of what 'independent lawyers' conclusions have been.
Mostly bluster and little to no substance. Nice circle jerk guys.
yup. but i exposed them a long time ago as fake "unbiased" posters. they claim both tray and cowardman are "idiots" yet all their rhetoric and links have been pro zimmerman mixed in with words like "niglet". they keep acting like they aren't on cowardman's side yet haven't posted not 1 article or post pointing out the inconsistencies in cowardmans statements.
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 03:54 PM
so i'm hearing that a nurse or doctor or whatever was making o'mara look foolish. heard he was trying his best to discredit her and get her to say cowardman's injuries life threatening but she wouldn't budge.
Yeah I'd sure like to see that bitch's offshore bank account. Probably got a little fatter today.
Creepn
07-02-2013, 03:58 PM
Yeah I'd sure like to see that bitch's offshore bank account. Probably got a little fatter today.
LMAO! When a nurse tells the truth, she has been bribed. When Zimmerman tells a lie, its a "memory slip". Your sense of reality is severly altered.
hater
07-02-2013, 04:02 PM
this case has all the symptoms of a mistrial. Shitty police procedure, bad evidence, shitty prosecution, shitty judge, etc, etc
no way there is a conviction. this is a waste of time.
elbamba
07-02-2013, 04:05 PM
O'mara should just rest without calling a single witness.
I am sure he will ask the court to rule that the prosecution has failed to meet its burden of proof before he offers any testimony. This is a fairly common practice in criminal law, even when the prosecution has overwhelmingly met its burden. It would be malpractice to not ask tbh.
elbamba
07-02-2013, 04:08 PM
I see a lot of claims and very little analysis from the Zimmerman crowd. The closest I have seen was CC's claim of what 'independent lawyers' conclusions have been.
Mostly bluster and little to no substance. Nice circle jerk guys.
Do you have any specific evidence or testimony that you want to discuss in detail? I think there has been a lot of good material to discuss here and some good posts. There has also been a lot of racist crap that is boring.
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 04:10 PM
She appeared to me to be a either a paid witness or at least one sympathetic to the prosecution. Her testimony that the injuries on the back of GZ's head were consistent with being impacted on the sidewalk ONE TIME was incredulous. You can accuse GZ to lying out his ass, but when I accuse someone on your side of the argument, you get your panties in a bunch.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 04:12 PM
yup. but i exposed them a long time ago as fake "unbiased" posters. they claim both tray and cowardman are "idiots" yet all their rhetoric and links have been pro zimmerman mixed in with words like "niglet". they keep acting like they aren't on cowardman's side yet haven't posted not 1 article or post pointing out the inconsistencies in cowardmans statements.
:lmao
You haven't exposed anything but your total ignorance of the law. I said from day one that the facts as had been discussed didn't justify a murder 2 charge. The trial has proven that.
All you have done is play the race card with your pansy ass house nigra act.
Wild Cobra
07-02-2013, 04:16 PM
I will say this again.
The prosecutor should be disbarred, like what happened in that LaCross case.
At least fired.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 04:24 PM
It's not these guys that should be disbarred, it's that special prosecutor bitch. It was all politics with her and not the law.
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Trill Clinton
07-02-2013, 04:27 PM
:lmao
You haven't exposed anything but your total ignorance of the law. I said from day one that the facts as had been discussed didn't justify a murder 2 charge. The trial has proven that.
All you have done is play the race card with your pansy ass house nigra act.
you played the race card. All the racist comments in here have come from you and your buddies. I don't car whatu said from day one. All your posts have been pro cowardman. You love him so much you won't dare point out the inconsistencies in his story. In your eyes, what George says happened, happened, even when the evidence says otherwise. George is the shepherd and you're one of his sheep, sad.
Wild Cobra
07-02-2013, 04:30 PM
It's not these guys that should be disbarred, it's that special prosecutor bitch. It was all politics with her and not the law.
Yes, that's what I meant. This never warranted an arrest, trial, etc. It's a waste of tax dollars and appeasing the people who play the race cards.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-02-2013, 04:34 PM
Do you have any specific evidence or testimony that you want to discuss in detail? I think there has been a lot of good material to discuss here and some good posts. There has also been a lot of racist crap that is boring.
I really only glance at this thread. I don't have time to pay enough attention to form a good conclusion.
Trill has been pretty good about posting transcript snippets. The point I am trying to make is that boobie, CC, fabs et al are just holding a pep rally rather than really address specifics for the most part.
boobie4three
07-02-2013, 04:35 PM
you played the race card. All the racist comments in here have come from you and your buddies. I don't car whatu said from day one. All your posts have been pro cowardman. You love him so much you won't dare point out the inconsistencies in his story. In your eyes, what George says happened, happened, even when the evidence says otherwise. George is the shepherd and you're one of his sheep, sad.
If there were any inconsistencies in Zimmerman's story, they were inconsequential, so much so, the investigators weren't troubled by it. GZ thought he had told the dispatcher TM circled the car when in fact he hadn't mentioned it. Whoop Dee Freaking Doo. Somebody please tell me of any MAJOR inconsistencies in his story.
AntiChrist
07-02-2013, 04:35 PM
Articulation is yours, dimwit.
My interest in this case has more to do with how it underscores how race dominates our politics and how FLorida laws are pretty asinine.
Lol, naturally.
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 04:36 PM
you played the race card. All the racist comments in here have come from you and your buddies. I don't car whatu said from day one. All your posts have been pro cowardman. You love him so much you won't dare point out the inconsistencies in his story. In your eyes, what George says happened, happened, even when the evidence says otherwise. George is the shepherd and you're one of his sheep, sad.
LOL what a fucking fool.
the evidence overwhelmingly points to self defense and the jury is going to agree with me.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-02-2013, 04:36 PM
She appeared to me to be a either a paid witness or at least one sympathetic to the prosecution. Her testimony that the injuries on the back of GZ's head were consistent with being impacted on the sidewalk ONE TIME was incredulous. You can accuse GZ to lying out his ass, but when I accuse someone on your side of the argument, you get your panties in a bunch.
So because she says something that counters Zimmerman's claims it makes her a paid witness?
CosmicCowboy
07-02-2013, 04:38 PM
I really only glance at this thread. I don't have time to pay enough attention to form a good conclusion.
Trill has been pretty good about posting transcript snippets. The point I am trying to make is that boobie, CC, fabs et al are just holding a pep rally rather than really address specifics for the most part.
I'm not going to do your cliff notes for you fuckwad. If you are too fucking lazy to do your own research that's on you.
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