Spurs contact Pau Gasol reportedly

[FireMicoHalili]

Holy crap, 17 pages? How does anyone think the Spurs have even the smallest chance to land Gasol? Not even worth discussing IMO.
Great job adding to the discussion though :toast

[Prime Time]

You don't say?
My apologies, I thought the intention of your post was to 'correct' me.


Great job adding to the discussion though :toast
Thanks I try.

[MaNu4Tres]

Can't believe some people here wouldn't want Gasol on the team for the MLE.

[Seventyniner]

Proof that you learn something new every day. Today I learned that hubris has an adjectival form. My expanded vocabulary thanks you.

I didn't even know that "adjective" had an adjectival form tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

this is looking like a Kirilenko thread.

[pgardn]

The problem with this speculation is not knowing what Gasol wants.

Another ring: take a spot on our bench and gather lots of minutes is his best bet.

City and Money: A number of options, stay with LA, NY...

Raise his stature as an individual player: Hard to say

Comfortable situation with money but no pressure?

I would rather hear speculation on what the masses think Gasol wants, then the team speculation becomes easier.
So what does Pau want?

He could also alternate starts with Duncan and play with Diaw. Pop is clearly willing to try new lineups in the regular season, and give Duncan even more rest. So I guess automatically assuming he is coming off the bench is not sound.

[spursparker9]

Man...Will Melo and Lebron decide already?

[xmas1997]

I can't help thinking this all depends on what Melo does,
which all depends on if Bosh stays in Miami or goes to Houston,
which all depends on what James does.
If Bosh gets tired of waiting for James to decide to come back to Miami and goes to Houston, that opens up room for Melo to go to Miami and that would draw James back there.
All speculation of course, but what can anyone do at this point?

[Mel_13]

I didn't even know that "adjective" had an adjectival form tbh.

:lol

[Jimcs50]

Spurs are set. If Pau comes, that is cherry on top.

Either way, if Spurs stay healthy, and Patty fully recovers, it's another ring for TD.

[xmas1997]

I think the Spurs have plan B to follow plan A, and then plan C if neither work out.
You know CIAPop.

[Uriel]

I don't understand why people are acting like there's no chance Gasol will come to the Spurs. This isn't like one of those situations where an agent name drops the Spurs as a team fielding interest in his client in an effort to improve his value. This is legit.

Multiple news outlets have been reporting for months (since before the season ended) that there is mutual interest between both parties. If Gasol decides that he's willing to play for the MLE, the Spurs would immediately move near to the top of his list of preferred destinations.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think desire is the issue, the issue is playing time and rotational fit. No doubt Gasol would work on the Spurs, but the frontcourt is loaded and I don't see where he plays in the crunch-time rotation. I'd have to think that's pretty important to him, and I don't blame him.

[pgardn]

I don't think desire is the issue, the issue is playing time and rotational fit. No doubt Gasol would work on the Spurs, but the frontcourt is loaded and I don't see where he plays in the crunch-time rotation. I'd have to think that's pretty important to him, and I don't blame him.

Then he does not want a ring. He could easily end up in Duncan's spot if the group he is playing with is performing leading into crunch time. We have seen Pop leave the effective rotation on the floor.

[Mr. Body]

Then he does not want a ring. He could easily end up in Duncan's spot if the group he is playing with is performing leading into crunch time. We have seen Pop leave the effective rotation on the floor.

That's pretty easy to say. Any great player worth his salt would like a defined role and, what's more, a sense of importance to his new organization. Gasol won't want to coattail his way to a ring.

[AFBlue]

Spurs are set. If Pau comes, that is cherry on top.

Either way, if Spurs stay healthy, and Patty fully recovers, it's another ring for TD.

This. Seriously not sweating the decision either way tbqh. Whether they use the MLE on Gasol, some other player(s), or not at all is probably immaterial to their chances for 6.

[pgardn]

That's pretty easy to say. Any great player worth his salt would like a defined role and, what's more, a sense of importance to his new organization. Gasol won't want to coattail his way to a ring.

Then he is not a Spur. Substitute teammate for coattail. He could be very important to the Spurs. People seem to forget we were healthy enough during the playoffs to rely on others to step in for the niggles some players had accumulated.

The older the Spurs get, the more likely we are to have a serious injury. Gasol is ready made for elbow picks, pass, shoot. He loves the range that Duncan could not hit during the playoffs. So he wants more individual glory in your opinion. I can see that as well.

[TampaDude]

This. Seriously not sweating the decision either way tbqh. Whether they use the MLE on Gasol, some other player(s), or not at all is probably immaterial to their chances for 6.

You mean the good 6, right? :lol

[gameFACE]

That's pretty easy to say. Any great player worth his salt would like a defined role and, what's more, a sense of importance to his new organization. Gasol won't want to coattail his way to a ring.

Yeah, this shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand. Gasol doesn't want a John Salley type ring. He wants to work for it.

[pgardn]

Yeah, this shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand. Gasol doesn't want a John Salley type ring. He wants to work for it.

So Gasol does not think he could add any real value?

Thats pretty sad. We really must be a lock with the assurance of no injuries. And of course in the longer term he must not think he could fill Duncan's spot adequately enough to make Pop stay. So Pop has no pitch that could convince Gasol he would be a factor in the short and long run... Ok.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

So Gasol does not think he could add any real value?

Thats pretty sad. We really must be a lock with the assurance of no injuries. And of course in the longer term he must not think he could fill Duncan's spot adequately enough to make Pop stay. So Pop has no pitch that could convince Gasol he would be a factor in the short and long run... Ok.

:lol get real

[SpursRock20]

Yeah, this shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand. Gasol doesn't want a John Salley type ring. He wants to work for it.
I know that the Finals are fresh on everyone's memory, but the road to a championship was not exactly a cakewalk this past season. We were very close to going to game 7 against OKC with either an extremely hobbled Parker or not with him at all. Furthermore, the Mavericks were very close to knocking us out in the first round and thankfully we turned it around and won 3 games out of the last 4 after looking very mediocre to start the series (that 10 point comeback late in game 1 was a major reason we escaped that series). Going back to the regular season, do you remember how the Spurs struggled for a large part of the year against playoff teams? That was a very real problem, and luckily, the Spurs began playing at their absolute peak and were healthy at the same time at the most crucial time of the season. Finally, this Spurs team dodged quite a few major injuries and were very fortunate to be healthy for the postseason.

I say all of this to hammer the point home: Gasol would be more than just a fifth wheel and he is not simply a pipe dream to entertain. It's quite possible that Duncan could go down for an extended amount of time next year. This is a league where the Western Conference simply gets stronger and stronger every year. Two teams that were already dangerous next year, Houston and Golden State (both teams that we were fortunate enough to not play), are probably going to get even better next season. Nothing is ever easy for these Spurs, Gasol would definitely have some work to do on this roster.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Keep in mind that by getting Pau this year, you're automatically putting yourself in the lead pack to get Marc Gasol next year, which could be very important if Duncan retires after this season.

[xmas1997]

Keep in mind that by getting Pau this year, you're automatically putting yourself in the lead pack to get Marc Gasol next year, which could be very important if Duncan retires after this season.


Why do people say this, because they are brothers?

[Steve-O-Matic]

Why do people say this, because they are brothers?
Umm, yes, and because they have both stated that they'd love the opportunity to play on the same team together again if it works out that way.

[xmas1997]

Umm, yes, and because they have both stated that they'd love the opportunity to play on the same team together again if it works out that way.

Intriguing.
Would like to have Marc play here.

[vjcchs12]

the spurs should end free agency today. Save any money left over for next year to re-sign players. Our squad is solid. With development and another year in system, CJ, Austin D, Jeff, A and Anderson should all be great bench players.

[BatManu20]

the spurs should end free agency today. Save any money left over for next year to re-sign players. Our squad is solid. With development and another year in system, CJ, Austin D, Jeff, A and Anderson should all be great bench players.

Always room to improve. And this may very well be Duncan and Manu's final ride. Need to do everything in our power to get better, if the opportunity presents itself. If a talent like Gasol is interested, you try.

[spurraider21]

Gasol at the MLE is a no brainer. Even if it didn't work out he'd be hilariously easy to move with that salary

[gameFACE]

I know that the Finals are fresh on everyone's memory, but the road to a championship was not exactly a cakewalk this past season. We were very close to going to game 7 against OKC with either an extremely hobbled Parker or not with him at all. Furthermore, the Mavericks were very close to knocking us out in the first round and thankfully we turned it around and won 3 games out of the last 4 after looking very mediocre to start the series (that 10 point comeback late in game 1 was a major reason we escaped that series). Going back to the regular season, do you remember how the Spurs struggled for a large part of the year against playoff teams? That was a very real problem, and luckily, the Spurs began playing at their absolute peak and were healthy at the same time at the most crucial time of the season. Finally, this Spurs team dodged quite a few major injuries and were very fortunate to be healthy for the postseason.

I say all of this to hammer the point home: Gasol would be more than just a fifth wheel and he is not simply a pipe dream to entertain. It's quite possible that Duncan could go down for an extended amount of time next year. This is a league where the Western Conference simply gets stronger and stronger every year. Two teams that were already dangerous next year, Houston and Golden State (both teams that we were fortunate enough to not play), are probably going to get even better next season. Nothing is ever easy for these Spurs, Gasol would definitely have some work to do on this roster.

It comes down to a matter of minutes for all the bigs. Ideally you want to rest players that need it during the regular season. That's actually what happened this past year. And it's always about being healthy and/or playing well in the post season. The Spurs weren't fortunate to not play Houston or Golden State. Right before the Portland series I said the Blazers had no idea what was about to hit them. I would have said the same about either Houston or Golden State. To take out OKC in 6 games is about right for a team like that. You're not going to sweep them.

Don't get me wrong I'd love Gasol on the team but either Diaw or Splitter will get their minutes cut. Especially with small ball. You don't add a player like Gasol for insurance purposes.


So Gasol does not think he could add any real value?

I said he wants to work for it, not freeload. That would assume a player with a level of value to add.

[AFBlue]

You mean the good 6, right? :lol

After the redemption of this past year, 6 has a whole new meaning for me tbqh. The "other" 6 has been erased and replaced.

[FvckMavs]

As Heat used MLE on McRoberts, they are probably out of race for Gasol?

[ducks]

thunder,spurs,bulls who else?

[Drom John]

Knicks

[cd98]

In the Spur system, a 34 year old Gasol could probably come in and play Duncan's role for the next 3 or 4 years. He's got the mid range and he can post up when needed. He's long enough to be a shot blocking factor and about as mobile as Duncan. Maybe he doesn't have all the same tricks, but he's close enough. I thought getting him would not be likely, but with the Heat signing McRoberts and Melo likely to go back to the Knicks or sign with Chicago if he wants to have a chance to win the title, then Gasol really has no better options. Why not sign with S.A. and contend for titles on a great team with a great coach instead of playing with an injured Kobe and Nash for a team that won't make the playoffs?

[ceperez]

As Heat used MLE on McRoberts, they are probably out of race for Gasol?

They could still dump Bosh and make a run for Gasol.

They are going to make the argument that playing in the finals is guaranteed in the Eastern conference.

[Big Empty]

we should just go over the cap and sign gasol. the spurs had to have made a killing with two finals in two years. hell, the finals tickets were about 6 or7 times the normal season price. im sure we can afford it

[baseline bum]

we should just go over the cap and sign gasol. the spurs had to have made a killing with two finals in two years. hell, the finals tickets were about 6 or7 times the normal season price. im sure we can afford it

Can't pay more than the MLE under the CBA.

[spurraider21]

Can't pay more than the MLE under the CBA.
i hate explaining this shit to laker fans here :lol

"bro we'll just go over the cap and pay tax. money isn't a problem"

[nosfan1019]

What can the Thunder offer Gasol? Is the max the MLE?

If we can offer the same I think its a toss up. The Thunder have a bigger need for him, more defined role, more minutes. OTOH we have a better style for Pau's game - superior passing and team ball. The international factor has to help too.

[Kidd K]

I don't think Gasol would be that happy in OKC tbh. Do you think Gasol would actually be friends with dbags like Westbrook? Come on lol

His playing time would be less in SA, but I'm not sure his role would be less than in OKC. He's barely going to get touches there. Not just shot, but touches period. Westbrook and Durant hate letting other players make plays. It'd be like playing with two Kobes. And not in a good way.

In SA, Gasol gets rewarded for making an effort and getting open, plus would be allowed to make plays and thrive. I think he would be happier in SA on and off the court than anywhere else except on payday.

[spurraider21]

What can the Thunder offer Gasol? Is the max the MLE?

If we can offer the same I think its a toss up. The Thunder have a bigger need for him, more defined role, more minutes. OTOH we have a better style for Pau's game - superior passing and team ball. The international factor has to help too.
the only real contender that can offer pau more than the MLE is Houston, but i don't know if he wants to go play alongside Dwight again... he's also probably the rockets backup backup backup plan

[SupremeGuy]

lol @ Gasol if he decides to go from kirby to westbrick

[pgardn]

:lol get real

How?

[Spurs9]

It all depends if Gasol is more concerned with winning and being around teammates he can stand or getting that money.

[SpursFan4-Life]

ZERO FUCKING CHANCE Pau comes to sa


but these stupid threads gets everyone hyped up

[AFBlue]

ZERO FUCKING CHANCE Pau comes to sa


but these stupid threads gets everyone hyped up

Weren't you the one that started the Gasol signing troll thread saying you felt like he was coming? Why haven't you been banned already?

[Kindergarten Cop]

Weren't you the one that started the Gasol signing troll thread saying you felt like he was coming? Why haven't you been banned already?

[T Park]

Tbh, they could have with that same shitty bench if Ibaka was fit. Not saying they would have, but they could have. With Ibaka the series was 2-2...

:rolleyes

[anakha]

Weren't you the one that started the Gasol signing troll thread saying you felt like he was coming? Why haven't you been banned already?

[Emperor]

There is no better chance for him to win a title than here. I'm sure he knows that but still wouldn't blame him for taking more money from somewhere else.

[Ice009]

Is Pau going to play for Spain in the WC? If he is, maybe Pop can tell him they are planning to rest guys during the season and that they'd all share the minutes, as Boris and Splitter are also playing in the tournament.

Edit : I also don't think it should be about money. They can just have a PO and he can opt after the season and re-sign for more. I think it's gotta be about minutes and fit for him. I think the fit would be there, just don't know how many minutes Pop would give him on a consistent basis. I'm sure that if he performs on both offense and defense, he will get minutes.

[manufan10]

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[Ice009]

Where is Gasol? Is he currently in the US?

[Ron Swanson]

That might actually be good for us.

[manufan10]

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[MI21]

:rolleyes

Ok, they couldn't have beaten the Spurs with a healthy Ibaka. The 2-2 series result with Ibaka indicates they had no chance to beat the Spurs clearly..

[Ice009]

What is his pitch going to be? We've got this guy, Kevin Durant, who's a team player, doesn't take as many shots as Kobe, will pass the ball, but we've got this guy Russell Westbrook, who is a worse player than both, takes more shots than both. He might, or might not pass you the ball. It's a great system I've developed here. You're going to love it here.

[manufan10]

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[BatManu20]

OKC, CHI, and NYK have to be the frontrunners imo. If the Lakers sign another star then he stays put.

[Ice009]

OKC, CHI, and NYK have to be the frontrunners imo. If the Lakers sign another star then he stays put.

Why are OKC the frontrunners? Doesn't make sense to me. They don't have much of a system, don't have money, and Westbrook doesn't really pass the ball much and loves calling his own number over Kevin Durant. If Westbrook calls his own over a better play like Durant, you think he's going to pass the ball to Pau a lot? If he's going to take the MLE, surely the Spurs would be higher on his list. He'd get more touches on offense here. The mid-range jumpshot would be there for him too in the Spurs system.

[ajh18]

Money, starting spot, and more shots available in Chicago.

[FireMicoHalili]

Why are OKC the frontrunners? Doesn't make sense to me. They don't have much of a system, don't have money, and Westbrook doesn't really pass the ball much and loves calling his own number over Kevin Durant. If Westbrook calls his own over a better play like Durant, you think he's going to pass the ball to Pau a lot?
(1) doesn't have to make sense to you just for it to make sense to other people
(2) lack of a system doesn't preclude adding extra talent
(3) Westbrook doesn't pass Kobe doesn't pass yadda yadda yadda despite high averages in assists. No one really wins.
(4) does he really need to pass the ball to Pau a lot? Is there a need to do that? Can't they just sign him just cause they need some scoring in the post

[Ice009]

Money, starting spot, and more shots available in Chicago.

That one I won't argue with.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Money, starting spot, and more shots available in Chicago.

Only if they strike out with Melo, which I acknowledge is likely.

[FireMicoHalili]

...and then we end up with Glen Davis :downspin:

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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Pau is probably thinking, oh no this guy is worse than Mr. Pringles.

[Aztecfan03]

Ok, they couldn't have beaten the Spurs with a healthy Ibaka. The 2-2 series result with Ibaka indicates they had no chance to beat the Spurs clearly..

yes it is possible but not likely. 3 of those 4 games were in OKC.

[spursparker9]

Pau is probably thinking, oh no this guy is worse than Mr. Pringles.

:lol

[ceperez]

Still waiting for the Spurs to make their pitch to Gasol.

If the Thunder are offering the MLE, the Spurs can do just the same.

[murpjf88]

Still waiting for the Spurs to make their pitch to Gasol.

If the Thunder are offering the MLE, the Spurs can do just the same.


The Spurs made a phone call.

[AFBlue]

No need to rush any pitch. The Spurs don't do such things publicly anyway, but they are clearly in the least desperate position of all the contenders for his services. Besides, this won't get serious until LeBron and Melo decide what they're gonna do.

[TheDarkSide.]

Westbrook and durant just wanna "pitch" and "recruit" cause bron and others are doing it, young and impressionable fools IMO., spurs seem too grown for that. If you want to play for the best you will come and play for the best. If you want us to beg you, you don't belong here.

[Malik Hairston]

Can't really imagine Gasol joining OKC, just from a personality/atmosphere perspective, tbh..

I'd be less surprised if he ended up with the Knicks:lol..

[Ron Swanson]

We could send Kawhi.

"We're good."

[cd98]

Do you think Pop is sanctioning a video of Gasol highlights with a Spurs jersey on and a billboard of Gasol begging him to join the Spurs? We'll leave that circus to LA and NY and Miami.

[ducks]

Sam Amico SamAmicoFSO · 8h
Also told some others pursued by Heat (Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng) are not interested in "the small money."

[xmas1997]

Sam Amico SamAmicoFSO · 8h
Also told some others pursued by Heat (Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng) are not interested in "the small money."

If the report is true then Gasol isn't going here or to OKC who like Miami had only have the MLE to give him.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

If the report is true then Gasol isn't going here or to OKC who like Miami had only have the MLE to give him.

Chicago bound then?

[Texas_Ranger]

If the report is true then Gasol isn't going here or to OKC who like Miami had only have the MLE to give him.

didn't miami give the MLE to McRoberts?

[DesignatedT]

It's yet to be determined how much cap space Miami can come up with.

[Steve-O-Matic]

didn't miami give the MLE to McRoberts?

That hasn't been determined yet because (depending on what the Big 3 do, etc.) the Heat could stay under the cap or be over it again and turn the transaction into a sign-and-trade to preserve the exception for a different player.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So if Miami ends up with cap space due to LeBron or Bosh leaving, does that mean McRoberts still gets the same contract but is just no longer called the MLE?

[Mel_13]

So if Miami ends up with cap space due to LeBron or Bosh leaving, does that mean McRoberts still gets the same contract but is just no longer called the MLE?

That's possible.

[Kindergarten Cop]

So if Miami ends up with cap space due to LeBron or Bosh leaving, does that mean McRoberts still gets the same contract but is just no longer called the MLE?

Correct

[doobs]

Ok, they couldn't have beaten the Spurs with a healthy Ibaka. The 2-2 series result with Ibaka indicates they had no chance to beat the Spurs clearly..

After Ibaka returned, the Thunder won two games at home, then lost a game in SA, and then got closed out on their home court. I still doubt that Ibaka was ever really injured. He might have been banged up, a little hurt and sore, but not injured. OKC had to resort to gimmicks and hoped that resting Ibaka and conceding games 1 and 2 would be the smart play.

They gave the Spurs their best shot and were soundly beaten.

[celldweller]

After Ibaka returned, the Thunder won two games at home, then lost a game in SA, and then got closed out on their home court. I still doubt that Ibaka was ever really injured. He might have been banged up, a little hurt and sore, but not injured. OKC had to resort to gimmicks and hoped that resting Ibaka and conceding games 1 and 2 would be the smart play.

They gave the Spurs their best shot and were soundly beaten.

The series with OKC (as well as Miami) was over when Pop realized that playing Splitter along side Tim was not a good idea.

[xmas1997]

What I am reading of what many sports prognosticators are speculating is that the real reason that neither James nor Melo nor Gasol have made their decisions yet is because they are waiting on Bosh' decision.
It is known that Miami is low balling Bosh. This would appear under the surface to help influence Bosh to decide to take his talents elsewhere, such as Houston. Bosh even talked to James about the Houston offer and James was noncommittal.
James and Riley may, or may not, have conceived this scenario together, or may, or may not, have included Melo in this plan, because the master plan would be to replace Bosh with Melo, and then lure Gasol to take much less to also play there and win championships. So in a sense, Bosh is holding James' and/or Riley' plan hostage.
At this point, it is all conjecture, pure speculation, but I have to admit, it seems plausible.
A team of James, Melo, Wade (at half speed), and Gasol at age 34, along with the remaining new and old parts, would have to be considered the favorites, even over the Spurs.
However I think the Spurs, barring injuries, would still win their first back to back championship.

[King]

Question on the MLE - does it have to stand alone as a contract, or can it be combined with any other available cap space? I"m pretty sure it has to stand-alone, but there are far more knowledgeable people than me on the cap.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Question on the MLE - does it have to stand alone as a contract, or can it be combined with any other available cap space? I"m pretty sure it has to stand-alone, but there are far more knowledgeable people than me on the cap.

Exceptions cannot be combined - and you don't get the MLE unless you are over the cap, which would mean that you have no space available.

[jsandiego]

What I am reading of what many sports prognosticators are speculating is that the real reason that neither James nor Melo nor Gasol have made their decisions yet is because they are waiting on Bosh' decision.
It is known that Miami is low balling Bosh. This would appear under the surface to help influence Bosh to decide to take his talents elsewhere, such as Houston. Bosh even talked to James about the Houston offer and James was noncommittal.
James and Riley may, or may not, have conceived this scenario together, or may, or may not, have included Melo in this plan, because the master plan would be to replace Bosh with Melo, and then lure Gasol to take much less to also play there and win championships. So in a sense, Bosh is holding James' and/or Riley' plan hostage.
At this point, it is all conjecture, pure speculation, but I have to admit, it seems plausible.
A team of James, Melo, Wade (at half speed), and Gasol at age 34, along with the remaining new and old parts, would have to be considered the favorites, even over the Spurs.
However I think the Spurs, barring injuries, would still win their first back to back championship.This is what me and the guys at work have been talking about since yesterday. I think LeBron is waiting to see what Bosh does. If re-signs with Miami, he may stay or bolt to Cleveland. If Bosh goes to Houston for the money, them Melo & LeBron both sign in Miami, along with Wade.
It's an interesting theory, all though I'm not sure a Melo/Bosh swap makes their problems go away. Wade was the problem last year.

[xmas1997]

This is what me and the guys at work have been talking about since yesterday. I think LeBron is waiting to see what Bosh does. If re-signs with Miami, he may stay or bolt to Cleveland. If Bosh goes to Houston for the money, them Melo & LeBron both sign in Miami, along with Wade.
It's an interesting theory, all though I'm not sure a Melo/Bosh swap makes their problems go away. Wade was the problem last year.

I agree on all of your points.

[Vic Petro]

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[spursparker9]

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Must be that talk with Scott Brooks tbh.:lol

[xmas1997]

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Could the Spurs be the next one to say this?

[spursparker9]

Could the Spurs be the next one to say this?

I think the Spurs consider it a damn long shot right from the start.

SA is the only team that Pau listed in his consideration but haven't met yet.

[Ron Swanson]

Brooks went full potato in his talk with Gasol.

[Vic Petro]

Could the Spurs be the next one to say this?

Spurs were always a long shot. I'm expecting Chicago.

[xmas1997]

Chicago, or maybe Miami depending on what Bosh and James do.

Edit: I forgot to mention New York too and a long shot would be Phoenix.

[T Park]

I think the Spurs consider it a damn long shot right from the start.

SA is the only team that Pau listed in his consideration but haven't met yet.

You know for a fact they haven't?

[Malik Hairston]

Have a feeling Gasol is going to either New York or Miami(if Bosh takes Houston's deal), tbh..

Chicago would be his best fit from a basketball standpoint, though..

I do believe the Spurs still have a legit chance, though..if Bosh stays in Miami, Gasol's chances of getting paid become slim, so winning becomes the priority, at that point, I would imagine..

Does Memphis still have their MLE or more, btw?..

[Spurs Brazil]

@WojYahooNBA
Spurs staying diligent on free agent Pau Gasol, but Bulls and Thunder -- with Lakers lurking -- lead the way, sources tell Yahoo.

[xmas1997]

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What about this report?

[DesignatedT]

I trust Woj over that dude.

[Vic Petro]

McMenamin got nailed to the Tree of Woj

[baseline bum]

Can Methlahoma offer more than MLE?

[Mr. Body]

Not surprised about OKC. Once the initial burst of recruitment wore away I wouldn't think Gasol would see them as a good destination. There's a weird vibe in OKC, and not just because it's in Oklahoma.

[bklynspursfan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsCxUqYCAAA_F1-.jpg

[mudyez]

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Nice! As long as they don't get him I feel good about our offseason.

[Cloud786]

Ken Berger
‏@KBergCBS

Knicks not fully eliminated from Pau Gasol chase, source says. But they're far behind Bulls, OKC and Lakers. Spurs on periphery.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Can Methlahoma offer more than MLE?

Only if they choose to explore a sign-and-trade using their trade exception from the Kevin Martin acquisition (~$6.5M) - but that is not likely, considering it would push them over the tax threshold and their owner has never shown a willingness to pay the tax.

[Cloud786]

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[Kindergarten Cop]

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[Mr. Body]

I've long thought Chicago was the best choice for Gasol. They clearly need him and the coach isn't a schmuck. I'd hate if he went to OKC and I think he'd hate it too.

[spurraider21]

im starting to think pau is just using these MLE teams like SA and OKC as leverage to get a bigger deal

[tholdren]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Spurs staying diligent on free agent Pau Gasol, but Bulls and Thunder -- with Lakers lurking -- lead the way, sources tell Yahoo. Twitter @WojYahooNBA -

[xmas1997]

I think we are definitely the dark horse here.
I sure as hell won't get my hopes up.

[tholdren]

FO did their job easily this year. We signed the players we want, the players know that we want them and are not our 2nd or 3rd choice, life is good.

Baynes will be a beast off the bench this year.

[Man In Black]

I would prefer Gasol just for the sole reason that foolish things happen from time to time, like when Martell Webster attacked Tim's Punisher Knee Brace and San Antonio jumped off the cliff.

However, the scenarios are out there. Currently, Pau Gasol is here in California, contemplating his next move...which means...the Spurs are still in the running. Nothing is official until he signs. The rest is pure conjecture!
The link below tells you he's thinking about his future.
http://instagram.com/p/qLMamMn2F7/?modal=true

[benefactor]

During Gasol's meeting with Brooks, according to a league source, the 13-year veteran peppered Brooks with questions about the quality of life in Oklahoma City and wondered aloud about leaving a culturally diverse city like Los Angeles for middle America.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11191669/oklahoma-city-thunder-scott-brooks-meets-pau-gasol

If that's a concern OKC is definitely out.:lol

[pgardn]

OKC ahead of SA...

Gasol prefers playing with chuckers that have zero coaching I guess.
Kobe and Pringles taught him well last few years.

[Knoxxx]

Why are people posting the same tweets over and over on this thread?

[ceperez]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11191669/oklahoma-city-thunder-scott-brooks-meets-pau-gasol

If that's a concern OKC is definitely out.:lol

Well if he's looking for "cultural diversity", you can't beat the Spurs locker room.

[RD2191]

If Pau wants to win a title he will either sign with the Spurs or Heat, if he wants to fuck around and make bank he will sign elsewhere. Simple as that. And I don't consider OKC a title contender.

[ceperez]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11191669/oklahoma-city-thunder-scott-brooks-meets-pau-gasol

If that's a concern OKC is definitely out.:lol

Well if he's looking for "cultural diversity", you can't beat the Spurs locker room.

Anyway... if he loves the game, he's going to take a pay-cut and sign the MLE.

Could the MLE be structured for just one year with a player option for the remaining years?

[ceperez]

If Pau wants to win a title he will either sign with the Spurs or Heat, if he wants to fuck around and make bank he will sign elsewhere. Simple as that. And I don't consider OKC a title contender.

The Heat don't have an MLE to give.

[RD2191]

The Heat don't have an MLE to give.
Well that leaves the Spurs then. :lol

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11191669/oklahoma-city-thunder-scott-brooks-meets-pau-gasol

If that's a concern OKC is definitely out.:lol

Oklahoma City demographics compared to San Antonio demographics...

Oklahoma City

White, non-Hispanic - 56.7%
Black or African American - 15.1%
Hispanic - 17.2%
Asian - 4.0%
Native American - 3.5%

San Antonio

Hispanic - 63.2%
White, non-Hispanic - 26.6%
Black or African American - 6.9%
Asian - 2.4%
Native American - 0.9%

[benefactor]

Messicans 4 Pau

[ceperez]

Well that leaves the Spurs then. :lol

For some unexplained reason, the Heat isn't in the running. Which is indeed strange since I would think that Pau would have no 'cultural' issues playing in Miami. However with the McRoberts signing, it looks like Miami will stick with the big three.

The Bulls aren't going to be a contender by a long shot, Rose's knees are still unpredictable, too big a risk to play for the Bulls.

I have not heard NYC trying to recruit Pau.

The Spurs showed that you can win a championship without all-stars. Further, we should also consider which coach he wants to play for and the team mates he's going to play with. In these 3 counts, the Spurs should be the top contender.

The other choice is to languish with a non-contender for the rest of his career.

[KL2]

Oklahoma City demographics compared to San Antonio demographics...

Oklahoma City

White, non-Hispanic - 56.7%
Black or African American - 15.1%
Hispanic - 17.2%
Asian - 4.0%
Native American - 3.5%

San Antonio

Hispanic - 63.2%
White, non-Hispanic - 26.6%
Black or African American - 6.9%
Asian - 2.4%
Native American - 0.9%

100% of OKC fans are white tho. I don't think I've ever seen a Hispanic in the audience, Gasol clearly noticed as well.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

I will be gutted if he signs with OKC. That is all.

[slick'81]

Surprising okc is ahead of sa but again their core is younger

[Bartleby]

Surprising okc is ahead of sa but again their core is younger

And Pau knows Ibaka from the Spanish natl. team.

[Man In Black]

But it Serge being his teammate enough? That's what NYK is trying to push now that they have Jose Calderon and New York City...but still only 4M and a state tax that is high.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

And Pau knows Ibaka from the Spanish natl. team.

Land from what I hears they don't get along to well. I think Gasol is looking for a bigger deal, but I think the Spurs is his 1st option if he is going to sign for the MLE.

[Ice009]

Land from what I hears they don't get along to well. I think Gasol is looking for a bigger deal, but I think the Spurs is his 1st option if he is going to sign for the MLE.

You'd think they would have gotten Ibaka to help with the recruiting pitch with Westbrook and Durant. Maybe Pau and Ibaka don't get along much at all like you've said.

[007nites]

According to Broussard OKC and NYK are out of the mix.

[pgardn]

I will be gutted if he signs with OKC. That is all.

I really don't want him anyway if this is the type of team he chooses.
Says a lot. He may just hate the Spurs which is fine. Kobe has an obsession with Duncan's rings so maybe he threatened Pau.

[ceperez]

According to Broussard OKC and NYK are out of the mix.

So it's just the Lakers, Bulls and Spurs?

Looks like Pau is going to sign with the Spurs!!!

The only other scenario is that Anthony signs with the Lakers.

[Man In Black]

You got a link for the Broussard statement that OKC is out?

[Vic Petro]

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/multiple-sources.gif

[Ron Swanson]

Nothing on Twitter

[AFBlue]

I could care less about Broussard's uninformed opinion tbqh.

[dunkman]

MVPau => SA

[HI-FI]

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/multiple-sources.gif

:lol
never gets old

[Mark in Austin]

I don't see why any player would want to play for Thibs. That guy runs players into the ground just as much as Dantoni did, and yet he never gets criticized for it. Especially veterans. If I were Pau I would stay the hell away from that guy unless I only wanted to play another year or two. To me, Lakers, Suns make the most sense money wise. Spurs, OKC winning wise, but no money.

[ceperez]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/08/sheridans-top-25-free-agents-july-8-edition/


ULY 1 UPDATE — Gasol has returned to the U.S. from Spain. The first calls came from the Lakers, Bulls, Mavericks and Warriors. Gasol spoke on the phone with Pat Riley and met for several hours with Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak. Spurs are interested, but cannot come close to paying the $10-12 million Gasol is seeking unless there is a sign-and-trade. July 2 UPDATE: Bulls are heading to Los Angeles to talk to him. Gasol is their No. 1 choice after ‘Melo. Also, the Oklahoma City Thunder made a pitch led by Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook. ESPN says he is willing to take less than market value from three teams: Spurs, Thunder and Knicks. Carmelo Anthony reportedly asked for Gasol’s phone number to pitch him on coming to the Knicks. JULY 4 UPDATE: Joakim Noah was part of a Bulls contingent making a pitch, and Pat Riley and Erik Spoelstra are the pitchers today. July 5 UPDATE: Spurs will offer him their full mid-level exception, Yahoo reports. JULY 7 UPDATE: Thunder coach Scott Brooks met with Gasol, ESPN reported. JULY 8 — Sought by every good team in the Association, beginning with the Spurs. Met with OKC coach Scott Brooks on Monday, ESPN-LA reported.A true wild card.


Interesting that he said he'll take less money to play with the Spurs.... Spurs offer MLE... but there is yet to be a meeting with Pop and Gasol.

It's always best to interview your most likely choice .... last.

[Man In Black]

Eric Pincus: Many misconceptions but Pau Gasol takes up $20 mil of Lakers' cap - that only goes away if he signs for less, leaves or is renounced. If Lakers cleared Gasol's $20 mil from their cap by renouncing him - they don't have his Bird Rights any more -can't sign him to go over cap. - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/pau_gasol#sthash.ufPLeUif.dpuf

In essence, if the Lakers want to have Cap Space to get Melo...they first have to renounce PAU. If they do that, they lose his Bird Rights.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=11189285&s=la

16 Min 47 Seconds...You'll learn a lot.

[siraulo23]

Pau isnt coming to SA

[celldweller]

Pau isnt coming to SA

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6518946304/h07C919C8/ :lol

[HankChinaski]

So far its Lebron holding the NBA hostage. Agents and teams just waiting on him before they can make a push on anyone else.

It is a fun moment to the end of ever season after the draft. I enjoy watching how teams combat reloading or rebuilding.

Spurs rarely make the big waves within free agency but you can't complain about being part of fan base who's team is always in discussion for contention for a run at the NBA title.

I much rather have the heartbreak of almost making it over the reliability of fail every season of being a fanbase of teams like the Kings and Timberwolves. To be a bitter fan of that cack sandwich every year. You certainly have to be a madochist to be a fan of teams like that.

[Malik Hairston]

Gasol would be an idiot to not choose the Bulls, tbh..they desperately need offensive talent, he would be a focal point, and they have the pieces and system to mask his atrocious defrnse..

Of course it's also possible that he just cares about the money and will choose to stay on LA's sinking ship..

[DPG21920]

I mean, CHI seems to have promised Taj a starting spot next to Noah. Do the Bulls go back to Taj and tell him he won't start or do they make Pau a bench big and treat him like Boozer (less the starting spot)?

[ceperez]

When Pau was traded to the Lakers for next to nothing in 2007, the Spurs were robbed. The Spurs won the championship in the previous year and it took 7 years to get it back. The Spurs lost to the Lakers in the 2007-2008 WCF.

So if Pau signs with the Spurs for MLE, it's just payback for the injustice back in 2007.

[spurraider21]

I mean, CHI seems to have promised Taj a starting spot next to Noah. Do the Bulls go back to Taj and tell him he won't start or do they make Pau a bench big and treat him like Boozer (less the starting spot)?
if Pau is going to settle for a bench role on a contender, the Spurs are the easy choice. chicago can probably pay more, but how much are they going to pay a guy thats going to be their 3rd big anyway?

has Houston expressed any interest in Pau at all? thats another solid spot for him if he wants a big role on a contender

[ceperez]

Gasol would be an idiot to not choose the Bulls, tbh..they desperately need offensive talent, he would be a focal point, and they have the pieces and system to mask his atrocious defrnse..

Of course it's also possible that he just cares about the money and will choose to stay on LA's sinking ship..

Did the Spurs just show the NBA that you need to have several offensive threats to win the title. The Bulls have how many offensive threats in their current roster? If Pau joins the bulls, he'll be carry the entire offensive load, just like he did for the Lakers without Bryant.

[spurraider21]

Did the Spurs just show the NBA that you need to have several offensive threats to win the title. The Bulls have how many offensive threats in their current roster? If Pau joins the bulls, he'll be carry the entire offensive load, just like he did for the Lakers without Bryant.
one season's champions don't necessarily dictate the direction that the entire league chooses to go. its pretty unlikely that any team can build what the spurs have. although miami picking up mcbob in an effort to emulate what diaw gives us is sorta funny.

[ceperez]

if Pau is going to settle for a bench role on a contender, the Spurs are the easy choice. chicago can probably pay more, but how much are they going to pay a guy thats going to be their 3rd big anyway?

has Houston expressed any interest in Pau at all? thats another solid spot for him if he wants a big role on a contender

Houston lost to the Blazers. How in the world are they even close to contending with

(1) Howard not dominant at center
(2) Harden being a liability on defense.

[siraulo23]

:lol

"insert FA name" interested in signing with team, x, y, z and spurs

a few days later

"insert FA name" signs with team x :lol

[ceperez]

one season's champions don't necessarily dictate the direction that the entire league chooses to go. its pretty unlikely that any team can build what the spurs have. although miami picking up mcbob in an effort to emulate what diaw gives us is sorta funny.

Only the Thunder has a team that is intact long enough to compete with the Spurs. Only problem with the Thunder is their lack of plays, however they do have a lot of talent and athleticism.

Next year, the Heat may be down to a big-two with Wade further declining in athleticism.

Meanwhile the Spurs have a ton of young players that are only going to get better over time. Let's see, you got:

Leonard, Green, Mills, Splitter all likely to improve their game.

Diaw and Parker are still at the peak of their game.

The Spurs are just going to get better next year.

[ceperez]

"insert FA name" interested in signing with team, x, y, z and spurs

a few days later

"insert FA name" signs with team x :lol

Happened a lot in the recent past because a lot of folks thought the Spurs would be aging and be on the decline.

There was a time though that almost every veteran free agent wanted to sign with the Spurs.

[Seventyniner]

The only way the Spurs could have gotten cap room in excess of the MLE is if both Diaw and Mills left. Pau had to know that was unlikely, so his interest in the Spurs was always with the knowledge that the Spurs would only have the MLE to offer.

If the Spurs really do have interest (seems likely given the lolbroussard multiple sources), they must believe the team would be better with Pau than without.

[Bartleby]

Although I have a hard time seeing Pau leave millions on the table, the continuity, professionalism and culture of the Spurs have got to be really appealing to a veteran on the back end of his career, especially considering how much drama and turmoil there was in LA.

[Kindergarten Cop]

PTR's article on why the Spurs should NOT use the MLE this year:

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/7/8/5880789/spurs-nba-free-agency-mid-level-exception

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

PTR's article on why the Spurs should NOT use the MLE this year:

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/7/8/5880789/spurs-nba-free-agency-mid-level-exception

Very good read, the Spurs won't use the MLE just for the sake of using it...

[ceperez]

Very good read, the Spurs won't use the MLE just for the sake of using it...

I agree.... glad Spurs didn't sign McRoberts.

[Emperor]

I think using the MLE on Gasol would be beneficial especially for next summer assuming that Duncan/Manu retire, then we'd already have our starting 4 with Pau so we can use our cap space for Kawhi, Parker, Green, perhaps Marco and other spots we may fill instead of using a chunk of it trying to find a Duncan replacement.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Land from what I hears they don't get along to well. I think Gasol is looking for a bigger deal, but I think the Spurs is his 1st option if he is going to sign for the MLE.


You'd think they would have gotten Ibaka to help with the recruiting pitch with Westbrook and Durant. Maybe Pau and Ibaka don't get along much at all like you've said.

I know that Ibaka was very upset with how the Spanish team underutilized him in the 2012 Olympics (so much that he threatened not to return) - playing a reserve role behind the Gasol brothers. I haven't seen/heard anything else that suggests that the two do not like each other but I do find it odd that of all of the OKC "recruits" mentioned for Gasol, the most likely of players (Ibaka) has not been mentioned.

[spurraider21]

using the MLE on pau is a no brainer, but its unlikely he accepts it. even if it doesn't work out, he'd be really easy to move

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I know that Ibaka was very upset with how the Spanish team underutilized him in the 2012 Olympics (so much that he threatened not to return) - playing a reserve role behind the Gasol brothers. I haven't seen/heard anything else that suggests that the two do not like each other but I do find it odd that of all of the OKC "recruits" mentioned for Gasol, the most likely of players (Ibaka) has not been mentioned.

I believe I heard that Gasol let the Spanish coach know that he didn't think Ibaka fit in the current system Spain utilized. And I heard that most players didn't accept him on the being the fact he isn't Spanish wasn't even born in Spain for that matter. Unlike France, Spain still has a lot of racially prejudicies. Gasol doesn't strike me as one of those, but you see others like llul, Navarro and such are.

[spursfan4ever]

486707096050626561

Metholomia fans at their best..:lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Although I have a hard time seeing Pau leave millions on the table, the continuity, professionalism and culture of the Spurs have got to be really appealing to a veteran on the back end of his career, especially considering how much drama and turmoil there was in LA.

That's pretty much it - if he wants the best shot at a ring he will come here, if he wants cash he will stay in LA or goes somewhere like Phoenix.

I hope he chooses the former, but given how these things usually work out (and the agent in his ear) he will likely take the cash from somewhere. Prove me wrong, Pau, and come play with the Good Guys!

[CaptainLate]

If he wants the MLE and vastly reduced playing time and a deeply supporting role, then sure, but in no universe is that happening.

Considering his recent injury history, if he wants to play 4-6 more years, he'll need to drastically cut down his PT to extend his career. Spurs are the only team who can do that for him b/c he'll be a 4th option. And we're a perfect fit for his brand of bball. Pau, ask yourself, "How much more money do I need?"

[Vic Petro]

With Melo going back to NYK I'd bet they too are now ahead of San Antonio for Gasol.

[LakerHater]

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[xmas1997]

With Melo going back to NYK I'd bet they too are now ahead of San Antonio for Gasol.

IF Melo goes back, I agree with you.
Melo isn't going to make his decision until after James does.
Again, connect the dots.

[Vic Petro]

IF Melo goes back, I agree with you.
Melo isn't going to make his decision until after James does.
Again, connect the dots.

Even Woj said Melo teaming with Bron was never discussed.

[Dex]

With Melo going back to NYK I'd bet they too are now ahead of San Antonio for Gasol.

Yeah because NYK was really contending with Melo last season.

[SpursFan86]

If Pau doesn't come here, I want him to either stay in LA or go to NY. We won't have to worry about those teams.

[spursfan4ever]

Bosh going to Houston will be scary if Spurs team stands as is.

[Russ]

Bosh going to Houston will be scary if Spurs team stands as is.

Agreed. But the Dwight Howard effect cannot be underestimated. :)

Come to think of it, Howard, Bosh and Hardin have all come up short in the past in big situations.

Still, a scary roster.

No doubt. :wow

[letmk]

Bosh going to Houston will be scary if Spurs team stands as is.

I think Parsons is a big part of what they did last season. If they replace Parsons with Bosh but have no other suitable replacement at SF, they'd still have a problem. Plus, unlike against small-lineup teams, a TD-Splitter tandem is a good match-up against Howard-Bosh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Bosh deal won't happen within the next 72 hours and they'll resign Parsons. Bosh probably stays put in Miami and gets a better deal or maybe goes to Dallas.

Gasol is waiting for all the shoes to drop.

[RD2191]

:lolHouston couldn't get past the shitfest defense that is the Trailblazers. Adding Bosh isn't going to catapult them into the WCF.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lolHouston couldn't get past the shitfest defense that is the Trailblazers. Adding Bosh isn't going to catapult them into the WCF.

Couple that with McHale as the head coach and it's complete fail. Bosh doesn't want to bang, is getting older and slower on defense. Parsons was the only one who had balls in there series last year and has been clutch for them in the past, they'd be fools not to resign him instead and just ditch mcHale and get a real coach.

[RD2191]

Couple that with McHale as the head coach and it's complete fail. Bosh doesn't want to bang, is getting older and slower on defense. Parsons was the only one who had balls in there series last year and has been clutch for them in the past, they'd be fools not to resign him instead and just ditch mcHale and get a real coach.
Agree on all points.

[RD2191]

By the way, you working an any new Ayres jokes?

[KL2]

Bosh going to Houston will be scary if Spurs team stands as is.

I'm not sure how much cap space they have but from what I've read they'd have to trade Lin and possibly not re-sign Parsons (averaged 17, 4, and 6 RPG last year) after the massive offer he got from Dallas. Bosh is good but I think he's definitely declined, guy just doesn't want to play in the post and that was a huge part of his game.

SA hasn't done much but Leonard should have a breakout season, and with a target on his back it'll help open things for others. Parker was injured throughout the playoffs as well, him being healthy would be a huge help.

[TheGoldStandard]

By the way, you working an any new Ayres jokes?

Watch the Summer League, it'll produce hours and hours of laughs.

[RD2191]

Watch the Summer League, it'll produce hours and hours of laughs.
:lol

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol

Dwayne Jones, Brendan Lane & Eric Moreland of Sacramento are going to look like Hakeem playing against Ayres.

[Vic Petro]

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[szkorhetz]

487145857180250112

We got this.

[T Park]

487145857180250112

Unbelievable. Keep up the hard work boys.

[szkorhetz]

Unbelievable. Keep up the hard work boys.

Either Duncan or Splitter always on the floor for D with someone who can pass and shoot from distance. Love it.
Duncan-Diaw and SPlitter-Gasol. Who would have an answer for it? I know it's a long shot, but if we could pull this....

[hsxvvd]

Duncan opts in.... ok season
Draft Anderson.... good off season
Re-signed Mills and Diaw.... very good off season
Pop extends....excellent off season

Sign Gasol.... perfect off season

Add possibility of Miami imploding and it just becomes one of the greatest off seasons ever. Outside Robinson and Duncan drafts.

[slick'81]

Wow spurs going all in on gasol and why not?what do they have to lose ?might as well call that dude everyday and tell him the titles waiting

[BatManu20]

Trying not to get my hopes up cause I still think it doesn't happen, but damn, if we could somehow land Pau that would be amazing.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Unbelievable. Keep up the hard work boys.

quite literally, unbelievable.

[spursparker9]

SA gives Pau the best chance to win the championship by far.

Hopefully Pau put his priority on winning the title.

[Russ]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs persistence on Pau Gasol keeping them a serious contender, inching closer to the Bulls, league sources tell Yahoo.

[Cane]

Thibs would run Gasol into the ground. Join the Spurs

[ceperez]

487145857180250112

The way it works, the agent in the discussion would like the bigger payday so he's going to promote the bigger contract.

But at the end of the day, it's going to be where the player will find happiness. Pau has earned over 100 million in his career, he doesn't need the money. He's got the opportunity here to play with a hall of fame coach and a bunch of hall of fame players. I doubt he'll join the Bulls with not much of an offense to think of. I mean seriously, the Bulls are so inept offensively that Marco Bellinelli had to carry the load the previous year in the playoffs.

[21209]

Duncan opts in.... ok season
Draft Anderson.... good off season
Re-signed Mills and Diaw.... very good off season
Pop extends....excellent off season

Sign Gasol.... perfect off season

Add possibility of Miami imploding and it just becomes one of the greatest off seasons ever. Outside Robinson and Duncan drafts.

Kawhi extension would make it even sweeter.

[Uriel]

In Pau Gasol's face-to-face meeting with Scott Brooks, he wondered aloud what it would be like leaving a culturally diverse city like LA for middle America.

Going to San Antonio would place him in a city with a large Spanish-speaking population as well as the most internationally diverse locker room in the NBA.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

The way it works, the agent in the discussion would like the bigger payday so he's going to promote the bigger contract.

But at the end of the day, it's going to be where the player will find happiness. Pau has earned over 100 million in his career, he doesn't need the money. He's got the opportunity here to play with a hall of fame coach and a bunch of hall of fame players. I doubt he'll join the Bulls with not much of an offense to think of. I mean seriously, the Bulls are so inept offensively that Marco Bellinelli had to carry the load the previous year in the playoffs.

More like 150mil +. Spurs should give him a 2 year deal with a player option next year. If he succeeds in the Spurs system (which I highly doubt he wouldn't), he can opt out and the Spurs can sign him for a higher salary similar's to Diaw's contract.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html

[Ron Swanson]

Trying not to get my hopes up cause I still think it doesn't happen, but damn, if we could somehow land Pau that would be amazing.

[spursparker9]

Trying not to get my hopes up cause I still think it doesn't happen, but damn, if we could somehow land Pau that would be amazing.

As long as Pau don't go OKC or join LeBron in Miami or Cleveland, its okay for me :toast

[benefactor]

It really comes down to chance at a ring vs money now. He can take the MLE and come to a championship squad that's bringing it's whole team back or cash in and wind up on a decent team that gets eliminated in the second round/ECF. I'd love to have him, but if he doesn't want to walk away from the cash it's understandable. The only thing better than millions of dollars is millions more.

[bluebellmaniac]

More like 150mil +. Spurs should give him a 2 year deal with a player option next year. If he succeeds in the Spurs system (which I highly doubt he wouldn't), he can opt out and the Spurs can sign him for a higher salary similar's to Diaw's contract.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html

If we sign him using the full MLE and he can opt out next year, what would be the max we could offer then? The full MLE again? We wouldn't have any bird rights.

[~O~]

Well this would make team Spurs even more unstoppable. Its all speculation until official.

[noles1983]

a lot of people setting themselves up for heartbreak it seems

[Mel_13]

If we sign him using the full MLE and he can opt out next year, what would be the max we could offer then? The full MLE again? We wouldn't have any bird rights.

The second year player option scenario assumes that Timmy and Manu retire after next season, and Kawhi is not extended this summer, leaving the Spurs with sufficient cap space next summer to meet all their goals while giving Pau a new, more lucrative contract.

[RiverwalkParade]

Almost seems like the Pop extension was timed perfectly to show Pau that he's not leaving after Timmy retires. Having Pop would help Pau extend his career, make more money in the long term and be a winner. With Pau here and Pop on for 4-5 more seasons, our future would be set. Get it done RC!

[TheWriter]

In Pau Gasol's face-to-face meeting with Scott Brooks, he wondered aloud what it would be like leaving a culturally diverse city like LA for middle America.

Going to San Antonio would place him in a city with a large Spanish-speaking population as well as the most internationally diverse locker room in the NBA.

Did he really? Strange since he played so many years in Memphis.

Nevertheless, San Antonio is a lot more diverse than either OKC or Memphis.

[Mel_13]

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I always wonder what this really means. What are the Spurs actually doing to demonstrate their persistence? Text messages from Timmy? A bottle of wine from Pop's winery? Singing telegrams?

Once the Spurs have communicated their interest and the salary they're willing to offer, what else is there to do?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If we sign him using the full MLE and he can opt out next year, what would be the max we could offer then? The full MLE again? We wouldn't have any bird rights.

They get the Non-Bird Exception, meaning they can only resign him to 120% of his previous salary, which would be a Million dollar raise.

[exstatic]

They get the Non-Bird Exception, meaning they can only resign him to 120% of his previous salary, which would be a Million dollar raise.

Unless Tim and Manu both roll off next summer...

[ontheraise]

how much cap space does spurs have with the raise of salary cap? i think spurs offering 8m/y to gasol would be a great deal but i don't see him playing for less then 10m/y

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

how much space cap does spurs have with the raise of salary cap? i think spurs offering 8m/y to gasol would be a great deal but i don't see him playing for less then 10m/y

Just the MLE. They could possibly get Gasol in a higher deal if they trade Ayres, Daye, S&T Bonner plus a 1st to the Lakers for Gasol in a S&T. But I doubt a trade like this happens.

[FireMicoHalili]

Just the MLE. They could possibly get Gasol in a higher deal if they trade Ayres, Daye, S&T Bonner plus a 1st to the Lakers for Gasol in a S&T. But I doubt a trade like this happens.
This trade is going to make Kobe happier than he already is

[ontheraise]

so gasol won't sign for spurs

[Seventyniner]

Just the MLE. They could possibly get Gasol in a higher deal if they trade Ayres, Daye, S&T Bonner plus a 1st to the Lakers for Gasol in a S&T. But I doubt a trade like this happens.

Highly, highly doubtful. The Lakers need bodies but Bonner would have to be guaranteed some salary in that scenario and I don't think they do that. It would also require the Lakers striking out on basically all of their free agent targets, leading them to roll their cap space over to next summer, or 2016 when Durant (and maybe LeBron again) is a free agent.

[mudyez]

I'ts probably down to Spurs for MLE or somewhere else (Chicago) via S&T.

I like our chances as Gasol seems to be a smart dude.

[ceperez]

I'ts probably down to Spurs for MLE or somewhere else (Chicago) via S&T.

I like our chances as Gasol seems to be a smart dude.

Chicago requires a S&T that include Boozer. Lakers aren't going to take Boozer's contract... I don't know which team is willing to participate in a 3 way trade to get Boozer.

[Mel_13]

Chicago requires a S&T that include Boozer. Lakers aren't going to take Boozer's contract.

They're not trading Pau straight up for Boozer, but they may be interested if Chicago attaches picks or rookie contracts.

[Mal]

They're not trading Pau straight up for Boozer, but they may be interested if Chicago attaches picks or rookie contracts.

Washed up player + picks + rookie

:lmao Kirby

[ceperez]

They're not trading Pau straight up for Boozer, but they may be interested if Chicago attaches picks or rookie contracts.

If you are going to do a sign and trade, Chicago needs a lot more contracts than just rookie contracts to make this happen. The Chicago option for Pau does not seem likely. Boozer's contact is $16.8m! Chicago isn't going to be able to unload this.

Pau doesn't have good options if he wants to be relevant. He's signing with the Spurs... you can book that prediction! Nobody is going to commit big money on a 34 year old player.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

If you are going to do a sign and trade, Chicago needs a lot more contracts than just rookie contracts to make this happen. The Chicago option for Pau does not seem likely. Boozer's contact is $16.8m! Chicago isn't going to be able to unload this.

Pau doesn't have good options if he wants to be relevant. He's signing with the Spurs... you can book that prediction! Nobody is going to commit big money on a 34 year old player.

Boozer is getting amnestied.

[Russ]

Ken Berger: Knicks not fully eliminated from Pau Gasol chase, source says. But they're far behind Bulls, OKC and Lakers. Spurs on periphery. Twitter

[Mel_13]

If you are going to do a sign and trade, Chicago needs a lot more contracts than just rookie contracts to make this happen. The Chicago option for Pau does not seem likely. Boozer's contact is $16.8m! Chicago isn't going to be able to unload this.

Pau doesn't have good options if he wants to be relevant. He's signing with the Spurs... you can book that prediction! Nobody is going to commit big money on a 34 year old player.

Consider it booked!

[ceperez]

This pre-season may be one where the Spurs instantly are guaranteed a championship.

Melo goes to Knicks.
Lebron goes to the Cavs
Bosh goes to the Rockets
Parsons goes to the Mavs

The Heat go to rebuilding mode.

[szkorhetz]

This pre-season may be one where the Spurs instantly are guaranteed a championship.

Melo goes to Knicks.
Lebron goes to the Cavs
Bosh goes to the Rockets
Parsons goes to the Mavs

The Heat go to rebuilding mode.

A championship is never booked.

[Dex]

This pre-season may be one where the Spurs instantly are guaranteed a championship.

Melo goes to Knicks.
Lebron goes to the Cavs
Bosh goes to the Rockets
Parsons goes to the Mavs

The Heat go to rebuilding mode.

Nothing is ever guaranteed.

[King]

Ken Berger: Knicks not fully eliminated from Pau Gasol chase, source says. But they're far behind Bulls, OKC and Lakers. Spurs on periphery. Twitter

So essentially, nobody has any idea what anyone is doing.

[Mel_13]

Washed up player + picks + rookie

:lmao Kirby

They're not going to win this year no matter what they. I'd actually be more concerned about the Lakers if they stopped trying to hit for the fences and used their cap space to gather assets while preserving cap flexibility for 2015 and 2016.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 7h

Spurs persistence on Pau Gasol keeping them a serious contender, inching closer to the Bulls, league sources tell Yahoo.

[HankChinaski]

If Pau doesn't go to a western conference, the west is still going to be a tough conference to get through come playoff time. The OKC Thunder are still the toughest match up for the spurs followed by the clips and mavs. Then there are the warriors, griz, Portland.

This recent NBA finals run is over its going to be a new season with question marks with depth with mills out for a large chunk of the season, manu depending on his recovery time, and without free agents all signed the league particularly in the west could be a lot more complicated come June.

[HankChinaski]

Despite all that, a healthy spurs team in June, I like their chances in making another finals trip. But it isn't set in stone like a bunch of fans think.

[Bartleby]

Parker getting in on the recruiting action:

http://www.marca.com/2014/07/10/baloncesto/nba/noticias/1404992047.html?cid=SMBOSO34503&s_kw=Twitter&t=1404992088

[Prime Time]

Spurs fan is still on a major high, so I don't blame them for feeling good about next season.

But damn, I can't believe how fast y'all are willing to move on from what happened not even a month ago today. We won the goddamn CHAMPIONSHIP, you know - the thing you've been 'craving' since 2007 - and most of you are debating about what SA should do next season? I'm going to be Mr.Obvious here, but you can't get any higher than a NBA championship. Think about that. Spurs were the best team in the league last season, who knows when we'll be able to say that again? Considering injury chances, regression via age, free-agency losses, etc.

Seriously, we bitched about 6 about 10x longer than we have celebrated 5

[spursparker9]

Parker getting in on the recruiting action:

http://www.marca.com/2014/07/10/baloncesto/nba/noticias/1404992047.html?cid=SMBOSO34503&s_kw=Twitter&t=1404992088

Anyone can help with the translation?

[spursparker9]

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[100%duncan]

Spurs fan is still on a major high, so I don't blame them for feeling good about next season.

But damn, I can't believe how fast y'all are willing to move on from what happened not even a month ago today. We won the goddamn CHAMPIONSHIP, you know - the thing you've been 'craving' since 2007 - and most of you are debating about what SA should do next season? I'm going to be Mr.Obvious here, but you can't get any higher than a NBA championship. Think about that. Spurs were the best team in the league last season, who knows when we'll be able to say that again? Considering injury chances, regression via age, free-agency losses, etc.

Seriously, we bitched about 6 about 10x longer than we have celebrated 5

:lol

[ceperez]

Anyone can help with the translation?


"I like to play with Pau and I've already said. Everyone wants to play with it, is one of the best." The Tony Parker, the Spurs star said after the draw for the Euroleague.

The French Spurs guard hopes the Spanish power forward runs by decanting offer reigning NBA to recruit.

"If we do not choose to nostros, remain friends and go to dinner with a good wine as we do," said the French base, reiterated he will not participate in the World Spain to rest.

Yes, Parker would not go beyond the content of his talk with Pau. Friendly and close with the Press, French Base became one of his fantastic dribbling with a smile: "I can not say more than we speak."

The Spurs still insist on their interest and Pau Gasol as Yahoo! points this makes the Texas franchise continues with options to sign him but according to league sources, the ÑBA is getting closer to Chicago.

The Knicks, who hope the "yes" of Carmelo Anthony also hope that Pau will side with the supply of the Big Apple and the Thunder did not withdraw from the struggle for power forwar

ugly google translation.... but good enough

[ceperez]

Spurs fan is still on a major high, so I don't blame them for feeling good about next season.

But damn, I can't believe how fast y'all are willing to move on from what happened not even a month ago today. We won the goddamn CHAMPIONSHIP, you know - the thing you've been 'craving' since 2007 - and most of you are debating about what SA should do next season? I'm going to be Mr.Obvious here, but you can't get any higher than a NBA championship. Think about that. Spurs were the best team in the league last season, who knows when we'll be able to say that again? Considering injury chances, regression via age, free-agency losses, etc.

Seriously, we bitched about 6 about 10x longer than we have celebrated 5

This post-season is quite critical. We could see the dismantling of the Heat. That would mean LeBron may not be a threat in the next couple of years.

IF the Spurs land Pau, it virtually ensures another championship for the Spurs (barring any injuries).

[Seventyniner]

Anyone can help with the translation?

The title, at least, roughly translates as "I would like to play with Pau and I have said it before, everyone would like to play with him."

[palangi]

Spurs fan is still on a major high, so I don't blame them for feeling good about next season.

But damn, I can't believe how fast y'all are willing to move on from what happened not even a month ago today. We won the goddamn CHAMPIONSHIP, you know - the thing you've been 'craving' since 2007 - and most of you are debating about what SA should do next season? I'm going to be Mr.Obvious here, but you can't get any higher than a NBA championship. Think about that. Spurs were the best team in the league last season, who knows when we'll be able to say that again? Considering injury chances, regression via age, free-agency losses, etc.

Seriously, we bitched about 6 about 10x longer than we have celebrated 5
Well could you enlighten us as to when it is appropriate to think about next year. Do you have the championship celebratory rule book or guidelines that you could paste for us uneducated champions?

[gameFACE]

It really comes down to chance at a ring vs money now. He can take the MLE and come to a championship squad that's bringing it's whole team back or cash in and wind up on a decent team that gets eliminated in the second round/ECF. I'd love to have him, but if he doesn't want to walk away from the cash it's understandable. The only thing better than millions of dollars is millions more.

When it comes down to it most players seem to choose the money over rings. You can only hope he's a ring person at this stage of his career.

I kind of admire the Spurs persistence. The only other thing they could offer is grand marshal of the Paella Challenge at the Pearl every year.