Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[TheDoctor]

Let's push this shit to 100.

What is the correct way to eat a hamburger?

I say lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, ketchup, mustard. A good shot of chili never hurts either.
Inglehoffer Horseradish mustard instead of reg mustard for me.

[AFMadison]

Kyrie wants to get away from the crying liberal Lebron James, TBH. Guy even makes up stories about him being victimized.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/lebron-james-alleges-racist-graffiti-still-zero-evidence/

[AFMadison]

Inglehoffer Horseradish mustard instead of reg mustard for me.
I like the mayo ketchup mix, if I'm going with chili I bring out the mustard.

[cd021]

Kyrie wants to get away from the crying liberal Lebron James, TBH. Guy even makes up stories about him being victimized.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/lebron-james-alleges-racist-graffiti-still-zero-evidence/

:lol cause Kyrie is a conservative. He's a little too dark to for that tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

Irrelevant. I never liked Obama and his time in office. I'm talking about NOW.
And what happened now? Wall Street is better than ever and Trump team is trying to make good deals for USA, you mean that subjective thing where liberals say ¨RACIST¨ and Trump never said a racist word?

[baseline bum]

and lots here did not think trump had a realistic shot at being the PRESIDENT OF THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

He won president of Germany?

[tonight...you]

And what happened now? Wall Street is better than ever and Trump team is trying to make good deals for USA, you mean that subjective thing where liberals say ¨RACIST¨ and Trump never said a racist word?
Nope. Go back and read.

[BillMc]

I wonder if he is traded somewhere else (or stays a Cav) if he'd sign with us as a FA in 2 years. Sounds promising...

[sasaint]

Inglehoffer Horseradish mustard instead of reg mustard for me.

Not particular about the mustard. Raw onions, please. Grilled onions are edging slightly toward the fru-fru for me. And green chilies.

[BillMc]

Not particular about the mustard. Raw onions, please. Grilled onions are edging slightly toward the fru-fru for me. And green chilies.

"Edging Towards the Fru Fru" sounds like an 80's New Romantics album. :lol

[TheDoctor]

I like the mayo ketchup mix, if I'm going with chili I bring out the mustard.
I like that mayo-ketchup-garlic mix sometimes w/ my fries but not on the burger. The flavor is too overpowering. Every once in a while I like to put some guac or garlic aioli sauce.


Not particular about the mustard. Raw onions, please. Grilled onions are edging slightly toward the fru-fru for me. And green chilies.
Cant stand raw onions texture. Caramelized for me.

[NameLess Scrub]

Let's push this shit to 100.

What is the correct way to eat a hamburger?

I say lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, ketchup, mustard. A good shot of chili never hurts either.

Lettuce (or other greener, softer leaf), tomato, grilled onions, pickles, mayo, ketchup, cheddar cheese, smashed avocado.

[NameLess Scrub]

I like that mayo-ketchup-garlic mix sometimes w/ my fries but not on the burger. The flavor is too overpowering. Every once in a while I like to put some guac or garlic aioli sauce.

Agreed with the mayo-ketchup-garlic thing. That's mostly for plantains, corn fritters and stuff like that. I could eat it in a burger but not preferable most times.



Cant stand raw onions texture. Caramelized for me.

I like both :D

[AFMadison]

I like that mayo-ketchup-garlic mix sometimes w/ my fries but not on the burger. The flavor is too overpowering. Every once in a while I like to put some guac or garlic aioli sauce.


Cant stand raw onions texture. Caramelized for me.
Jalapeño ranch for the fries ����

[AFMadison]

:lol cause Kyrie is a conservative. He's a little too dark to for that tbh.
You don't have to be a conservative to be annoyed by liberals, and your race doesn't depict which party you support. If it did, and people weren't misinformed, African Americans would overwhelmingly be republicans. Don't really expect an intelligent reply to this.

[spurs10]

I wonder if he is traded somewhere else (or stays a Cav) if he'd sign with us as a FA in 2 years. Sounds promising... Yeah I've been thinking the same. He and Kawhi would still be young.

Speaking of Kyrie and burgers, fresh jalapeños and melted cheese work well together. :wow

[Mr. Body]

You don't have to be a conservative to be annoyed by liberals, and your race doesn't depict which party you support. If it did, and people weren't misinformed, African Americans would overwhelmingly be republicans. Don't really expect an intelligent reply to this.

Lol

[sasaint]

"Edging Towards the Fru Fru" sounds like an 80's New Romantics album. :lol

:lol Do you play a musical instrument? My shop manager and I are always going on about the garage band we are going to form some day and all the messed up song and cd titles we plan to compose...

[sasaint]

Jalapeño ranch for the fries ����

Nice call. Don't do that often enough.

[sasaint]

Agreed with the mayo-ketchup-garlic thing. That's mostly for plantains, corn fritters and stuff like that. I could eat it in a burger but not preferable most times.



I like both :D

I gotta have plain ol' fried plantains.

[sasaint]

I wonder if he is traded somewhere else (or stays a Cav) if he'd sign with us as a FA in 2 years. Sounds promising...

Kyrie will be waaaayyy to young to sign here. Check back at the end of his contract FOLLOWING his next contract.

[Seventyniner]

Let's push this shit to 100.

What is the correct way to eat a hamburger?

I say lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, ketchup, mustard. A good shot of chili never hurts either.

Meat and bun and that's it. Bun optional.

[NameLess Scrub]

I gotta have plain ol' fried plantains.

Fresh tostones are awesome. They go well with a sauce made of ketchup/olive oil /garlic /hot sauce too.

[SpursforSix]

The best burger is off a charcoal grill. Bun, yellow mustard, red onion, lettuce, tomato.

If it was cooked right and the ingredients are fresh, that's the shit. Especially if you've been swimming at the lake.

[xellos88330]

Gotta have egg on the burger.

[SpursforSix]

But there was this onetime...I hate mayonnaise...and made it clear. But when I got my burger, there was mayo on it. So I say to the guy, "hey...did you jack off on my hamburger?"...just making a joke. But the guy paused like way too long before going "ha ha". I had fucked his mom the night before in the bathroom at the wedding rehearsal. So I thought maybe he knew and was getting revenge.

So I put the burger in my suit pocket and then later when I was with his sister, I rubbed it in her crotch. So if she ends up with a retarded baby, I'll know that motherfucker jacked off on my hamburger.

[TheDoctor]

Gotta have egg on the burger.

Good call. Sunny side up egg over a burger especially for Brunch? Killer.

[SpursforSix]

Gotta have egg on the burger.

This is generally a good idea. But not at Chilis.

[cd021]

You don't have to be a conservative to be annoyed by liberals, and your race doesn't depict which party you support. If it did, and people weren't misinformed, African Americans would overwhelmingly be republicans. Don't really expect an intelligent reply to this.

Sure, I guess. Race can be an indicator of which party someone leans towards; you can be black and also be republican but I admittedly actually haven't met another black person who was actually conservative. That fascinating, you assuming Black people would be republican if they weren't "misinformed" (super condescending btw) maybe they actually know the histories of both parties and have stuck with Dem's since 1936 because they have reason to.

Also, minorities vote Democratic far more often in Presidential elections at least. Blacks have voted for Dem's 20 straight presidential elections (many of which by margins of at least 20 points, Hispanics in 10 straight presidential elections, and Asian Americans have voted Democrat overwhelmingly ( by double digits) in the past 5 presidential elections and did so by a margin of 23 points in this past election, not to mention they are the fastest growing Demo in the U.S.

Don't expect a intellegent response tbh.

[tholdren]

Sure, I guess. Race can be an indicator of which party someone leans towards; you can be black and also be republican but I admittedly actually haven't met another black person who was actually conservative. That fascinating, you assuming Black people would be republican if they weren't "misinformed" (super condescending btw) maybe they actually know the histories of both parties and have stuck with Dem's since 1936 because they have reason to.

Also, minorities vote Democratic far more often in Presidential elections at least. Blacks have voted for Dem's 20 straight presidential elections (many of which by margins of at least 20 points, Hispanics in 10 straight presidential elections, and Asian Americans have voted Democrat overwhelmingly ( by double digits) in the past 5 presidential elections and did so by a margin of 23 points in this past election, not to mention they are the fastest growing Demo in the U.S.

Don't expect a intellegent response tbh.

I know a ton of black republicans and a ton of white liberals. Just talking about that makes you a retard

[sasaint]

Fresh tostones are awesome. They go well with a sauce made of ketchup/olive oil /garlic /hot sauce too.

I have had tostones that way, but with a little mayo in the mix. I just prefer sliced plantains sautéed until the outside turns to a dark, almost pasty consistency and the inside is very tender. Traditional Costa Rican breakfast with eggs, black beans, rice and plantains is pretty hard to beat.

[ismael-robert]

Wheres a good place to get tostones

[cd021]

I know a ton of black republicans and a ton of white liberals. Just talking about that makes you a retard

Somehow I doubt that.

And did I hurt your feelings at some point?

If I did, I really hope your sensitive ass gets over it.

[baseline bum]

Good call. Sunny side up egg over a burger especially for Brunch? Killer.

IDK man, when I put an egg on a sandwich I like it poached. Then you slice into the yolk and spill that shit all over.

[baseline bum]

Let's push this shit to 100.

What is the correct way to eat a hamburger?

I say lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, ketchup, mustard. A good shot of chili never hurts either.

Ketchup is for ten year old girls tbh

[TimDunkem]

Ketchup is for ten year old girls tbh

Truth

[raybies]

wth did this page turn into? lol

[xellos88330]

Somehow I doubt that.

And did I hurt your feelings at some point?

If I did, I really hope your sensitive ass gets over it.

I don't know many Republican black people, but I do know a few of them for sure. They are like unicorns, very hard to find lol!!! My family (Hispanic) have usually voted strictly republican. I guess it is because we come from a long line of military tradition. Personally, I am centrist and don't care who I vote for if I like what they plan on doing. I voted both against and for Obama, voted for Bush Jr. So in my elections I am 3 republican and 1 democrat, and in this last election, I went 3rd party. In congress, I usually am divided. Sometimes the democrats will hit points that I am concerned about and vice versa. It all really is subjective to me. If I think the country needs it, I will vote accordingly. Voting for a candidate simply because you are republican or democrat I have always found rather irresponsible. Same goes with conservatives and liberals. I tend to lean either way. This cycle I am more conservative than liberal. I just think the country needs to take a step back from rapid progression for a moment and fix what is currently wrong. Then we can start moving forward again once all of the shit has been sorted.

[SpursforSix]

Ketchup is for ten year old girls tbh

Idk. I used to hate Ketchup. I didn't even eat it until my 20's. I still don't prefer it but most fries suck and it's the most available condiment to make them eatable.

[SpursforSix]

IDK man, when I put an egg on a sandwich I like it poached. Then you slice into the yolk and spill that shit all over.

X2

[cutewizard]

The Night King rules

[sasaint]

This is generally a good idea. But not at Chilis.

Or Applebee's.

[AFMadison]

Sure, I guess. Race can be an indicator of which party someone leans towards; you can be black and also be republican but I admittedly actually haven't met another black person who was actually conservative. That fascinating, you assuming Black people would be republican if they weren't "misinformed" (super condescending btw) maybe they actually know the histories of both parties and have stuck with Dem's since 1936 because they have reason to.

Also, minorities vote Democratic far more often in Presidential elections at least. Blacks have voted for Dem's 20 straight presidential elections (many of which by margins of at least 20 points, Hispanics in 10 straight presidential elections, and Asian Americans have voted Democrat overwhelmingly ( by double digits) in the past 5 presidential elections and did so by a margin of 23 points in this past election, not to mention they are the fastest growing Demo in the U.S.

Don't expect a intellegent response tbh.
I didn't expect one, and I didn't get one. Slave owners were overwhelmingly democratic. Democrats claim of some great switch within the parties that never happened, and in fact only two members swapped sides. The left uses racism as a tool to gain voters, yet never do anything to improve the quality of life for minorities. It's a way to keep people dependent upon the government and maintain power. Same reason why they want open boarders. Open boarders equals more votes. It's why the left pushes to change the constitution, take away our guns and free speech so the people hold less power. The only reason someone from the left, these days, doesn't vote conservative, is because they've been brainwashed into thinking every conservative is a white supremacist neo nazi. Trump was never a racist before running for president, but now since he's conservative he's obviously the second coming of Hitler. It's actually pretty hilarious to me.

And yes, the Democratic Party, history wise, has always been the party in support of slavery. Do your own research and don't rely on what the media tells you.

[sananspursfan21]

Do you guys think Kyrie gets his burgers well done or medium well?

[BatManu20]

This seems to make the most sense of everything I've seen. Cavs love Kyrie but had the chance to swap him for Eric Bledsoe and Paul George and tried to make it happen, but it fell through and now Kyrie's ego is bruised so he requests a trade.


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[SPURt]

This seems to make the most sense of everything I've seen. Cavs love Kyrie but had the chance to swap him for Eric Bledsoe and Paul George and tried to make it happen, but it fell through and now Kyrie's ego is bruised so he requests a trade.


899013667118759936
Dan Gilbert is a true idiot if this is true. He should've done that trade regardless of Lebron. Gilbert's incompetence doesn't change the fact Lebron is screwing Cavs fans.

[Chillen]

Dan Gilbert is a true idiot if this is true. He should've done that trade regardless of Lebron. Gilbert's incompetence doesn't change the fact Lebron is screwing Cavs fans.

Still not as stupid as Gar and Pax. Trading Jimmy Butler to Minny so he can be coached by the coach they fired, lol.

[cd021]

I didn't expect one, and I didn't get one. Slave owners were overwhelmingly democratic. Democrats claim of some great switch within the parties that never happened, and in fact only two members swapped sides. The left uses racism as a tool to gain voters, yet never do anything to improve the quality of life for minorities. It's a way to keep people dependent upon the government and maintain power. Same reason why they want open boarders. Open boarders equals more votes. It's why the left pushes to change the constitution, take away our guns and free speech so the people hold less power. The only reason someone from the left, these days, doesn't vote conservative, is because they've been brainwashed into thinking every conservative is a white supremacist neo nazi. Trump was never a racist before running for president, but now since he's conservative he's obviously the second coming of Hitler. It's actually pretty hilarious to me.

And yes, the Democratic Party, history wise, has always been the party in support of slavery. Do your own research and don't rely on what the media tells you.

Lol. Historically, yes the Democratic party was the party of the KKK, that could be tied more to Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats from Confederate States than the entire party itself. Republicans like to try and make up that Democrats didn't support the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but if you were to remove the Dixiecrats from the equation- they were the alt right of their day- then the Democrats did vote overwhelmingly in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Republicans then used the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to appeal to Southern whites who were concerned that blacks were gaining to much in society that became known as the Southern Strategy and helped get Nixon elected and almost permanently turned the deep south red. The GOP admitted and apologized for doing this to black leaders in 2004 while also trying to get black people to vote for them to reelect W. Bush, he ended up winning on 5% of the black vote.

The right has used identity politics to appeal to white voters for generations and is one of the primary reasons why black voters have become permanently alienated from the party and why Hispanics and Asian American voters have mostly stayed away too. Believing that black people have been "brainwashed" into not voting Republican is yet another reason why black people often vote against the GOP, not to mention the GOP frequently votes against things that African Americans value on both the state and national levels and are almost always on the opposite side of issues that they care about; i.e, police reform, & health care.

Trump had a long history of racism, decades worth of stories and accusations; not just against black people (twice being sued for housing discrimination against black people post civil rights era) but against Native Americans, Latino's and Jewish people. You can't ignore 30 years of history just to make a point that isn't remotely accurate :lol

[cd021]

Still not as stupid as Gar and Pax. Trading Jimmy Butler to Minny so he can be coached by the coach they fired, lol.

They also gave up the 16th pick for reasons no one can understand in a trade where they moved one of the fifteen best players in the league for Lavine (who may only play 3 months of basketball before becoming an RFA), & Dunn-a 23 1/2 year old sophomore who had one of the worst rookie years for a top 5 pick in recent memory.

Garpax found a diamond in the rough and traded him for Cubic Zirconia. Could be one of the worst trades of the past 10 years.

[SPURt]

Still not as stupid as Gar and Pax. Trading Jimmy Butler to Minny so he can be coached by the coach they fired, lol.
Savage lol. Would anyone take the player to surpass Jordan and get a good decade of something incredibly only to see decades of incompetence follow?

[cd021]

This seems to make the most sense of everything I've seen. Cavs love Kyrie but had the chance to swap him for Eric Bledsoe and Paul George and tried to make it happen, but it fell through and now Kyrie's ego is bruised so he requests a trade.


899013667118759936

Bill Simmons suggested the reason why Josh Jackson isn't being included was because the Suns promised Jackson and his agent that they would pick him if he fell to number 4, Jackson wanted to be in Phoenix and he ended up cancelling a workout with Boston at the last minute. It sounds much more likely now after reading this, Phoenix was willing to move #4 to Cleveland (who probably would've also taken him) before the draft but unwilling to move Josh Jackson after taking him

[baseline bum]

Bill Simmons suggested the reason why Josh Jackson isn't being included was because the Suns promised Jackson and his agent that they would pick him if he fell to number 4, Jackson wanted to be in Phoenix and he ended up cancelling a workout with Boston at the last minute. It sounds much more likely now after reading this, Phoenix was willing to move #4 to Cleveland (who probably would've also taken him) before the draft but unwilling to move Josh Jackson after taking him

I can't believe anyone would ever cancel workouts based on promises from a team. I remember Rashard Lewis doing that in 1998 because the Rockets promised they'd take him #14, and instead Houston used their three first round picks to take Michael Dickerson, Mirsad Turkan, and Bryce Drew while Lewis fell to #32 with a non-guaranteed contract in Seattle. I remember he was crying in the interview when he got picked, it was one of the most brutal things I have seen in sports. Sager ended up interviewing Rashard's sister because he was too devastated to get the words out on camera. He was sitting there in the green room thinking he was going to play for his hometown team with about $4.5 million guaranteed (back then first round picks got a guaranteed four year deal), and then he fell out of the first and all of a sudden had to make an NBA team if he wanted to see a cent. And he was too small for the NBA at the time, I was scared he was going to get killed in the show. I remember seeing skinny 150 lb eighteen year-old Rashard trying to guard Karl Malone in the first game NBC broadcast after the lockout and thought no way this guy is an NBA player right now. But to Lewis' credit he showed the Rockets how retarded they were to pass on him, and ended up a hell of a player. Nevertheless, if I was an NBA agent I would make my client watch that tape of that draft any time he told me he was considering skipping workouts because of a promise a team made him.

[cd021]

I can't believe anyone would ever cancel workouts based on promises from a team. I remember Rashard Lewis doing that in 1998 because the Rockets promised they'd take him #14, and instead Houston used their three first round picks to take Michael Dickerson, Mirsad Turkan, and Bryce Drew while Lewis fell to #32 with a non-guaranteed contract in Seattle. I remember he was crying in the interview when he got picked, it was one of the most brutal things I have seen in sports. Sager ended up interviewing Rashard's sister because he was too devastated to get the words out on camera. He was sitting there in the green room thinking he was going to play for his hometown team with about $4.5 million guaranteed (back then first round picks got a guaranteed four year deal), and then he fell out of the first and all of a sudden had to make an NBA team if he wanted to see a cent. And he was too small for the NBA at the time, I was scared he was going to get killed in the show. I remember seeing skinny 150 lb eighteen year-old Rashard trying to guard Karl Malone in the first game NBC broadcast after the lockout and thought no way this guy is an NBA player right now. But to Lewis' credit he showed the Rockets how retarded they were to pass on him, and ended up a hell of a player. Nevertheless, if I was an NBA agent I would make my client watch that tape of that draft any time he told me he was considering skipping workouts because of a promise a team made him.

Simmons also mentioned that one of the reasons why Phoenix won't move Josh Jackson now is because they don't want to be on his agents shit list.

B.J. Armstrong's represents Emmanuel Mudiay, Derrick Rose, Draymond Green, JaVale McGee, and Biyombo and quite a few scrubs but Phoenix already has a bad rep as a poorly run franchise that seems to alienate players (Amare and Dragic in particular) risking doubt crossing a player and his agent could come back to haunt them and may be a reason why they aren't willing to trade Josh Jackson to Cleveland.

[NameLess Scrub]

I have had tostones that way, but with a little mayo in the mix. I just prefer sliced plantains sautéed until the outside turns to a dark, almost pasty consistency and the inside is very tender. Traditional Costa Rican breakfast with eggs, black beans, rice and plantains is pretty hard to beat.

That Costa Rican breakfast is pretty much a lunch lol. Sounds good still.

I assume you mean ripe plantains.

[sasaint]

That Costa Rican breakfast is pretty much a lunch lol. Sounds good still.

I assume you mean ripe plantains.

Ripe, carmelized plantains - yum!

[Mr. Body]

I didn't expect one, and I didn't get one. Slave owners were overwhelmingly democratic. Democrats claim of some great switch within the parties that never happened, and in fact only two members swapped sides. The left uses racism as a tool to gain voters, yet never do anything to improve the quality of life for minorities. It's a way to keep people dependent upon the government and maintain power. Same reason why they want open boarders. Open boarders equals more votes. It's why the left pushes to change the constitution, take away our guns and free speech so the people hold less power. The only reason someone from the left, these days, doesn't vote conservative, is because they've been brainwashed into thinking every conservative is a white supremacist neo nazi. Trump was never a racist before running for president, but now since he's conservative he's obviously the second coming of Hitler. It's actually pretty hilarious to me.

And yes, the Democratic Party, history wise, has always been the party in support of slavery. Do your own research and don't rely on what the media tells you.

Sorry bro, you're retarded.

[dabom]

It's always been north vs south.To put it simply. And dumbasses need to learn their history. :lol

[dabom]

A lot of good hearted people associate themselves with early Republicans, but must understand, that the party ideology switched in the 1960s.

[dabom]

Anyone retarded enough not understand this is a fucking faggot. Seriously. I will think you are mentally retarded, troll, not from the US. :lol

[AFMadison]

Lol. Historically, yes the Democratic party was the party of the KKK, that could be tied more to Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats from Confederate States than the entire party itself. Republicans like to try and make up that Democrats didn't support the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but if you were to remove the Dixiecrats from the equation- they were the alt right of their day- then the Democrats did vote overwhelmingly in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Republicans then used the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to appeal to Southern whites who were concerned that blacks were gaining to much in society that became known as the Southern Strategy and helped get Nixon elected and almost permanently turned the deep south red. The GOP admitted and apologized for doing this to black leaders in 2004 while also trying to get black people to vote for them to reelect W. Bush, he ended up winning on 5% of the black vote.

The right has used identity politics to appeal to white voters for generations and is one of the primary reasons why black voters have become permanently alienated from the party and why Hispanics and Asian American voters have mostly stayed away too. Believing that black people have been "brainwashed" into not voting Republican is yet another reason why black people often vote against the GOP, not to mention the GOP frequently votes against things that African Americans value on both the state and national levels and are almost always on the opposite side of issues that they care about; i.e, police reform, & health care.

Trump had a long history of racism, decades worth of stories and accusations; not just against black people (twice being sued for housing discrimination against black people post civil rights era) but against Native Americans, Latino's and Jewish people. You can't ignore 30 years of history just to make a point that isn't remotely accurate :lol
30 years of history yet I can't find one

[AFMadison]

Sorry bro, you're retarded.
Truth hurts, stay woke.

[UnWantedTheory]

I didn't expect one, and I didn't get one. Slave owners were overwhelmingly democratic. Democrats claim of some great switch within the parties that never happened, and in fact only two members swapped sides. The left uses racism as a tool to gain voters, yet never do anything to improve the quality of life for minorities. It's a way to keep people dependent upon the government and maintain power. Same reason why they want open boarders. Open boarders equals more votes. It's why the left pushes to change the constitution, take away our guns and free speech so the people hold less power. The only reason someone from the left, these days, doesn't vote conservative, is because they've been brainwashed into thinking every conservative is a white supremacist neo nazi. Trump was never a racist before running for president, but now since he's conservative he's obviously the second coming of Hitler. It's actually pretty hilarious to me.

And yes, the Democratic Party, history wise, has always been the party in support of slavery. Do your own research and don't rely on what the media tells you.
First, look up the Southern Strategy. Second, look into the multiple times Trump was sued for housing discrimination. Third, realize your entire argument is shit.

[AFMadison]

First, look up the Southern Strategy. Second, look into the multiple times Trump was sued for housing discrimination. Third, realize your entire argument is shit.
Smh, sheep tbh

[UnWantedTheory]

30 years of history yet I can't find one

The first was 1973. He was sued by the Justice Department and he tried to counter sue. Google is your friend.

[AFMadison]

The first was 1973. He was sued by the Justice Department and he tried to counter sue. Google is your friend.
I know about it. Don't see anything wrong with it.

[UnWantedTheory]

30 years of history yet I can't find one
Also, Trump may not be some crazy white supremacist scumbag, but he most certainly knows that is who supports him. It doesn't take a brain sergeant or rocket doctor to knows this mayne.

[UnWantedTheory]

I know about it. Don't see anything wrong with it.
Then you just might be a redneck tbh.

[AFMadison]

Also, Trump may not be some crazy white supremacist scumbag, but he most certainly knows that is who supports him. It doesn't take a brain sergeant or rocket doctor to knows this mayne.
I mean he openly condemns white supremacist and new nazis. Trump just got a lot of people upset with the "alt left" truth bomb

[dabom]

This afmadison is a french faggot. Not even from here. :lol

[AFMadison]

Then you just might be a redneck tbh.
A redneck? I know a bunch of rednecks who supported Bernie. But anyways, when you own apartment buildings many things are taken into account when someone steps through your door looking to live in your building. At mine I generally won't accept anyone under 25, or someone who doesn't currently have a job, or someone who looks like they do drugs. If a person falls under one of those categories and I don't allow them to live at my complex it's not racist

[AFMadison]

This afmadison is a french faggot. Not even from here. :lol
French? Way the fuck off.

[UnWantedTheory]

I mean he openly condemns white supremacist and new nazis. Trump just got a lot of people upset with the "alt left" truth bomb
It took that fucking moron a couple of days and a shit ton of criticism to do it. He couldn't even condemn the KKK without throwing in the left to soften it for his band of retard zealots.

[dabom]

French? Way the fuck off.

You're a white flag waving degenerate pussy. :lol

[AFMadison]

It took that fucking moron a couple of days and a shit ton of criticism to do it. He couldn't even condemn the KKK without throwing in the left to soften it for his band of retard zealots.
He simply said he wanted to wait and hear all the facts, nothing wrong with that. Oh boo hoo it took him too long. He's completely right on the alt left though. Killing senators and killing cops. People don't fuss about these things because you have to tread so damn carefully around the emotions of the left.

[AFMadison]

You're a white flag waving degenerate pussy. :lol
I'll whoop your fucking ass any day of the week tbh

[dabom]

I'll whoop your fucking ass any day of the week tbh

You won't do shit pussy if I was fucking your wife. :lmao

[AFMadison]

You won't do shit pussy if I was fucking your wife. :lmao
I'm not married dog. Swing and another miss.

[dabom]

I'm not married dog. Swing and another miss.

No one wants a miserable fuck. :lol

[AFMadison]

No one wants a miserable fuck. :lol
I mean I got a girl. No desire to get married for at least another 5. You missing all over the place

[UnWantedTheory]

He simply said he wanted to wait and hear all the facts, nothing wrong with that. Oh boo hoo it took him too long. He's completely right on the alt left though. Killing senators and killing cops. People don't fuss about these things because you have to tread so damn carefully around the emotions of the left.
What revelation was there that it took two days to gather info so he could condemn the God damned KKK? Would the KKK be the good guys had a liberal drove a van into them murdering one? No. They would still be scumbags.

[dabom]

I mean I got a girl. No desire to get married for at least another 5. You missing all over the place

Sure bub, whatever you say...faggot. :lol

[dabom]

What revelation was there that it took two days to gather info so he could condemn the God damned KKK? Would the KKK be the good guys had a liberal drove a van into them murdering one? No. They would still be scumbags.

Didn't want to hurt his fan-base (kkk, neo-nazi, alt-right, white supremacists, confederate loser racist cucks). :lol

[dabom]

And if I hurt anyone else's feelings with that last post, go fuck yourself. :lol

[UnWantedTheory]

Didn't want to hurt his fan-base (kkk, neo-nazi, alt-right, white supremacists, confederate loser racist cucks). :lol
Exactly. He wouldn't have said shit if he wasn't forced into it by the criticism.

[AFMadison]

What revelation was there that it took two days to gather info so he could condemn the God damned KKK? Would the KKK be the good guys had a liberal drove a van into them murdering one? No. They would still be scumbags.
Obama never once condemned radical Islamic terrorism, does that mean he's an ISIS sympathizer? No

[dabom]

We got into a fucking depression and 2 wars with bush jr. and we vote another republican into office. :lmao

[UnWantedTheory]

Obama never once condemned radical Islamic terrorism, does that mean he's an ISIS sympathizer? No
Wow. The first weak Obama deflection took you too long and most of your party has stated otherwise. But to address your question, I just always thought he wasn't the retard getting caught up in what name to give terrorists.

Btw, should we start labeling them Radical White Supremacist terrorists? After all, we should call them what they really are and they will miraculously vanish.

[SupremeGuy]

AFMadison taking a shit on everyone. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Obama never once condemned radical Islamic terrorism, does that mean he's an ISIS sympathizer? No

He killed Osama bin fucking Laden which the Republicans were too weenie to do. :lol

[cd021]

We got into a fucking depression and 2 wars with bush jr. and we vote another republican into office. :lmao

'Merica acted drunker than Buford tbh,

[cd021]

30 years of history yet I can't find one

Central Park 5 says hi

[ducks]

He killed Osama bin fucking Laden which the Republicans were too weenie to do. :lol

Clinton had several chances did not

[cd021]

Clinton had several chances did not

So what your saying is Obama did something that two presidents failed to do and killed public enemy #1

[ducks]

I am saying both democrats and republicans could have shot him

[Mr. Body]

Clinton had several chances did not

Because Congress was all "wag the dog" bullshit. Idiots like GOP moron Newt Gingrich. Then Bush dismantled the terrorism task force, failed to protect us on 9/11, failed to catch bin Laden, letting him get away in Tora Bora because he wanted to start a war with a completely unrelated country in Iraq, fucked that up badly enough that ISIS formed, then when we got Obama he finished the job and finally killed bin Laden for what he did to our country.

Fuck Republicans forever and always.

[Leetonidas]

Ducks can barely form a sentence. Why would anyone engage in a political debate with him? :lmao

[cd98]

Wth. Can we get back to imaginary scenarios where the Spurs trade garbage for Irving?

[ducks]

what have the democrats do for the blacks of the USA?
oh the invite blm to white house that chant what do we want cops dead NOW

[cd021]

what have the democrats do for the blacks of the USA?
oh the invite blm to white house that chant what do we want cops dead NOW


They want police reform not dead cops :lol, this is why the GOP can't make inroads with black people they aren't interested in helping curb police brutality. If they did then they wouldn't have had Rudy Giuliani speak at the RNC and they wouldn't have cheered when one of the cops responsible for Freddy Greys death got acquitted.

[cd021]

I am saying both democrats and republicans could have shot him

But Obama did...

[cd021]

Wth. Can we get back to imaginary scenarios where the Spurs trade garbage for Irving?

Make this thread great again :lol

I am starting to think this drags out for another month. Irving isn't gonna get trade until late September at the earliest, in my opinion.

[Chillen]

Wow, this thread has gone bonkers with politics, most politicians are all talk anyway. This is a thread about a potential trade for Kyrie Irving.

[ducks]

Wow, this thread has gone bonkers with politics, most politicians are all talk anyway. This is a thread about a potential trade for Kyrie Irving.

got started because someone thought we should not discuss it so I asked what else should we talk about it:lol

[ducks]

Ducks can barely form a sentence. Why would anyone engage in a political debate with him? :lmao

ducks predicted trump would win and win he did
DUCKS was right most here were fools and lost!

[xellos88330]

Lol. Historically, yes the Democratic party was the party of the KKK, that could be tied more to Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats from Confederate States than the entire party itself. Republicans like to try and make up that Democrats didn't support the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but if you were to remove the Dixiecrats from the equation- they were the alt right of their day- then the Democrats did vote overwhelmingly in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Republicans then used the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to appeal to Southern whites who were concerned that blacks were gaining to much in society that became known as the Southern Strategy and helped get Nixon elected and almost permanently turned the deep south red. The GOP admitted and apologized for doing this to black leaders in 2004 while also trying to get black people to vote for them to reelect W. Bush, he ended up winning on 5% of the black vote.

The right has used identity politics to appeal to white voters for generations and is one of the primary reasons why black voters have become permanently alienated from the party and why Hispanics and Asian American voters have mostly stayed away too. Believing that black people have been "brainwashed" into not voting Republican is yet another reason why black people often vote against the GOP, not to mention the GOP frequently votes against things that African Americans value on both the state and national levels and are almost always on the opposite side of issues that they care about; i.e, police reform, & health care.

Trump had a long history of racism, decades worth of stories and accusations; not just against black people (twice being sued for housing discrimination against black people post civil rights era) but against Native Americans, Latino's and Jewish people. You can't ignore 30 years of history just to make a point that isn't remotely accurate :lol

Southern Strategy has been debunked multiple times. Here is a link from the NY Times talking about this very thing. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html That being said, I do believe that there are racists in the republican party and also the democratic party. I mean hell... could you imagine the outrage if Trump held his campaign headquarters in the hometown of the KKK like Jimmy Carter did?

[poop]

Page 80, first!!!

Oh, and fuck democrats.

[cd021]

Southern Strategy has been debunked multiple times. Here is a link from the NY Times talking about this very thing. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html That being said, I do believe that there are racists in the republican party and also the democratic party. I mean hell... could you imagine the outrage if Trump held his campaign headquarters in the hometown of the KKK like Jimmy Carter did?

Why did thee former RNC chairman personally apologize to black leader during the 2004 presidential campaign for employing the strategy?

[cd021]

ducks predicted trump would win and win he did
DUCKS was right most here were fools and lost!

Don't seem to recall your predicting a 35% approval rating. Just saying...

[monkeypunk]

Kyrie isn't coming to the Spurs but one thing that is happening?

Trump is going to prison for money laundering at the least and most likely for much much worse.

Ducks, your boy is a piece of shit and is going to get fita worse than the GOP is right now. It's Mueller time in a target rich environment...

[Big Empty]

ah yes, this has turned into the "then you're part of the probem" politics thread.

[cd98]

This Trump/No Trump argument is as pointless as the Porker vs. Manure debate. At least the latter has something to do with Spurs basketball.

[xellos88330]

Why did thee former RNC chairman personally apologize to black leader during the 2004 presidential campaign for employing the strategy?

So you are saying that no democrat exploits racial conflict in trying to get votes?

[Chillen]

Make this thread great again :lol

I am starting to think this drags out for another month. Irving isn't gonna get trade until late September at the earliest, in my opinion.

It's really not fair if he gets traded to the players Cleveland would get and Kyrie himself so near training camp. I think a deal if it happens will go down in early/mid September. I don't think the Cavs really want to trade him though.

[ducks]

Kyrie isn't coming to the Spurs but one thing that is happening?

Trump is going to prison for money laundering at the least and most likely for much much worse.

Ducks, your boy is a piece of shit and is going to get fita worse than the GOP is right now. It's Mueller time in a target rich environment... if they was something it would have came out
heck with Clinton things leaked all the time

[UZER]

Maybe Trump just needs to have a beer summit with the Klan and Antifa. That'll smooth things over.

[cool cat]

Why did thee former RNC chairman personally apologize to black leader during the 2004 presidential campaign for employing the strategy?

Wow 3 whole RNC chairmen looking for votes apologized, guess we should rewrite history.

[Monkeyboy14]

They want police reform not dead cops :lol, this is why the GOP can't make inroads with black people they aren't interested in helping curb police brutality. If they did then they wouldn't have had Rudy Giuliani speak at the RNC and they wouldn't have cheered when one of the cops responsible for Freddy Greys death got acquitted.

Lol really? You are unaware that Blm has chanted we want dead cops? That has been repeated multiple times in multiple different ways, such as, pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon. Classic liberal sheep right here, believes what the crowd does without making an opinion for himself. Herd mentality, it's pathetic. And I'm not even a Repub

[monkeypunk]

if they was something it would have came out
heck with Clinton things leaked all the time

He agreed that he had been money laundering for 12 years at Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 and paid millions in fines.

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

Dude is crooked as they come and too dumb to cover his tracks properly. All of his dirty laundry is gonna come to light.

[tonight...you]

He agreed that he had been money laundering for 12 years at Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 and paid millions in fines.

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

Dude is crooked as they come and too dumb to cover his tracks properly. All of his dirty laundry is gonna come to light.
It will get ugly once he's out of office. He's going to regret this run for the rest of his life.

[Seventyniner]

It will get ugly once he's out of office. He's going to regret this run for the rest of his life.

Nah, he won the election. He's in the history books. Even if he ends up being the worst president ever, he was still POTUS.

But you're right, winning the election has made him a ton of enemies, some of them very powerful. His "legacy" will be under attack for decades.

[monkeypunk]

Nah, he won the election. He's in the history books. Even if he ends up being the worst president ever, he was still POTUS.

But you're right, winning the election has made him a ton of enemies, some of them very powerful. His "legacy" will be under attack for decades.

His impeachment and ensuing trial will replace Nixons downfall as the worst disgrace to happen to the presidency. He'll die in prison alone and it's going to be epic.

[UnWantedTheory]

Southern Strategy has been debunked multiple times. Here is a link from the NY Times talking about this very thing. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html That being said, I do believe that there are racists in the republican party and also the democratic party. I mean hell... could you imagine the outrage if Trump held his campaign headquarters in the hometown of the KKK like Jimmy Carter did?
During the civil war the south was full of slave owning Democrats. Fast forward to today and it's Democrats fighting to keep all those confederate statues in the blue states to remember our racist history and not Republicans. No? Possibly because the Southern Strategy worked.

[AFMadison]

Wow. The first weak Obama deflection took you too long and most of your party has stated otherwise. But to address your question, I just always thought he wasn't the retard getting caught up in what name to give terrorists.

Btw, should we start labeling them Radical White Supremacist terrorists? After all, we should call them what they really are and they will miraculously vanish.
it's not a deflection, it's just a comparison. Obama could shit in the White House courtyard and nobody would bat an eye. Trump condemns violence in Charlottesville but it "takes too long for him to do it" and liberals think Hitler has risen from the dead.

[AFMadison]

He killed Osama bin fucking Laden which the Republicans were too weenie to do. :lol
You mean Seal Team 6? Giving Obama credit for that is kinda funny. Dude was "semi ok at basketball" and made jokes during his speeches. All liberals are concerned with is the fact that they thought he was "cool".

[AFMadison]

Central Park 5 says hi
Didn't they admit they were guilty even though they were wrongfully convicted?

[skulls138]

You mean Seal Team 6? Giving Obama credit for that is kinda funny. Dude was "semi ok at basketball" and made jokes during his speeches. All liberals are concerned with is the fact that they thought he was "cool".No Obama did it. Of course the Seals did it!! But Obama approved it and it was under his watch. Stop trying to rewrite history.

[skulls138]

it's not a deflection, it's just a comparison. Obama could shit in the White House courtyard and nobody would bat an eye. Trump condemns violence in Charlottesville but it "takes too long for him to do it" and liberals think Hitler has risen from the dead.Obama is way classier than Trump, thats pretty much fact. Having said that there is alot of propaganda going on against Trump. They should have used this much energy against GW Bush and the world wouldnt be the place it is right now.

[AFMadison]

No Obama did it. Of course the Seals did it!! But Obama approved it and it was under his watch. Stop trying to rewrite history.
That's pretty funny, considering the left is currently removing statues.

[AFMadison]

Obama is way classier than Trump, thats pretty much fact. Having said that there is alot of propaganda going on against Trump. They should have used this much energy against GW Bush and the world wouldnt be the place it is right now.
You mean the Obama that waved his election around on a plane to female staffers?
I agree on Bush. Obama was just as bad because he did absolutely nothing except fuck up our healthcare. Under trump jobs are at an all time high as well as the stock market. America has also ended trade deals that were completely screwing us. Hopefully he can get some of those lefty loyalists to repeal Obamacare. They'd rather go down on a sinking ship than build a new one :lol

[MultiTroll]

move to political Forum. :rolleyes

[skulls138]

That's pretty funny, considering the left is currently removing statues.Two wrongs dont make a right.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump promised he would deport illegals yet Manure hasn't packed his bags to Venezuela yet.

Fuck Lyin' Trump.

[skulls138]

You mean the Obama that waved his election around on a plane to female staffers?
I agree on Bush. Obama was just as bad because he did absolutely nothing except fuck up our healthcare. Under trump jobs are at an all time high as well as the stock market. America has also ended trade deals that were completely screwing us. Hopefully he can get some of those lefty loyalists to repeal Obamacare. They'd rather go down on a sinking ship than build a new one :lolOk...and your proof?

Glad Im talking to an intelligent person. Obamas just as bad as Bush who set the middle east on fire and sending our troops into harms way for completely avoidable reasons? How does that equal LOL? Healthcare, which was fucked to begin with, so cant say he fucked up something that was already fucked, is not the same as this endless war in the middle east, especially in Iraq.

Stock market was good under Obama and jobs were improving. He also got us out of recession.

[AFMadison]

Ok...and your proof?

Glad Im talking to an intelligent person. Obamas just as bad as Bush who set the middle east on fire and sending our troops into harms way for completely avoidable reasons? How does that equal LOL? Healthcare, which was fucked to begin with, so cant say he fucked up something that was already fucked, is not the same as this endless war in the middle east, especially in Iraq.

Stock market was good under Obama and jobs were improving. He also got us out of recession.
Proof of what?

And yes equally as bad because Obama has the worst GDP growth of any president in history. Debt exploded to over 20 trillion. Most americans ever on food stamps. Record 95 million not in the work force. I could go on and on. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents of all time. It's not an argument it's just factually he's been historically bad.

[ducks]

Page 80, first!!!

Oh, and fuck democrats.

[noles1983]

Lot of Trump cucks in here, not surprising as the average IQ in here is on par with Trump supporters, tbh.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Trump promised he would deport illegals yet Manure hasn't packed his bags to Venezuela yet.

Fuck Lyin' Trump.

you mean to Messico? And Porker to Jacque Chirac's France.

[DeRozan m8]

No Obama did it. Of course the Seals did it!! But Obama approved it and it was under his watch. Stop trying to rewrite history.

Seal team 6 did not kill Osama, Osama died many years earlier from natural causes.

The 'capture' was put on ice until Obama needed it for approval boosting.

Then he got Seal Team 6 killed to keep it quiet.

Biggest Seal loss in Seal history.

Thanks Obama.

And the idiots for believing it lmfao

[gospursgojas]

Seal team 6 did not kill Osama, Osama died many years earlier from natural causes.

The 'capture' was put on ice until Obama needed it for approval boosting.

Then he got Seal Team 6 killed to keep it quiet.

Biggest Seal loss in Seal history.

Thanks Obama.

And the idiots for believing it lmfao

Heidi Klum was a pretty big Seal loss tho. Prob ranks up there.

[cd021]

Didn't they admit they were guilty even though they were wrongfully convicted?

They fingering each other and were convicted despite DNA evidence not matching any of theirs. Trump took out full page ads which helped turn the city against them. They were all exonerated later when a convicted inmate confessed and his DNA matched.

They received $41 million dollars in a settlement afterwards however Trump based the deal and claimed that they were still guilty with out a shred of evidence to support his claim.

[dabom]

Seal team 6 did not kill Osama, Osama died many years earlier from natural causes.

The 'capture' was put on ice until Obama needed it for approval boosting.

Then he got Seal Team 6 killed to keep it quiet.

Biggest Seal loss in Seal history.

Thanks Obama.

And the idiots for believing it lmfao


Age 14-20. :lol

[cd021]

Lol really? You are unaware that Blm has chanted we want dead cops? That has been repeated multiple times in multiple different ways, such as, pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon. Classic liberal sheep right here, believes what the crowd does without making an opinion for himself. Herd mentality, it's pathetic. And I'm not even a Repub

Typical talk surrounding BLM, some in certain protest have been heard chanting that but that doesn't represent all of them. Protesting police brutality is the main goal, the few that chant that are undermining the cause

[cd021]

So you are saying that no democrat exploits racial conflict in trying to get votes?

Of course not. Both parties have exploited race to their advantage.

[cd021]

Seal team 6 did not kill Osama, Osama died many years earlier from natural causes.

The 'capture' was put on ice until Obama needed it for approval boosting.

Then he got Seal Team 6 killed to keep it quiet.

Biggest Seal loss in Seal history.

Thanks Obama.

And the idiots for believing it lmfao

Love to get your takes on the JFK and RFK assassinations and 9/11.

I'll hang up and listen :lol

[Big Empty]

So when we were on the brink of war with North Korea, immediately far right conservatives said that Clinton and Obama kicked the can down the street with their sanctions, all these years and it led to this. Trump was gonna take care of it. Well now he's doing the same shit. Sanctions. Tough talk but no action. Now what? I voted for Trump believe it or not, ive always been in the middle. I voted for Obama previously.

[xellos88330]

Of course not. Both parties have exploited race to their advantage.

So why haven't the democrats apologized for using race in their political strategy?

[dabom]

President's son was trying to get info from Russians. :lmao

[skulls138]

Proof of what?

And yes equally as bad because Obama has the worst GDP growth of any president in history. Debt exploded to over 20 trillion. Most americans ever on food stamps. Record 95 million not in the work force. I could go on and on. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents of all time. It's not an argument it's just factually he's been historically bad.Proof of Obama waving his .... at women reporters.

And since the republicans outright said they were going to automatically say no to anything Obama was going to put across before even looking at it you have to look at the republicans as just as, or more than the reason for your complaints.The republicans, with their Tea Party (how cute), were very willing to drag the country to hell to have it their way. And as I said Obama brought us out of the biggest recession since The Great Depression, the republicans tried to hold the country hostage.

[skulls138]

Seal team 6 did not kill Osama, Osama died many years earlier from natural causes.

The 'capture' was put on ice until Obama needed it for approval boosting.

Then he got Seal Team 6 killed to keep it quiet.

Biggest Seal loss in Seal history.

Thanks Obama.

And the idiots for believing it lmfaoI...uh...well....hmmm. Nevermind.

[mo7888]

Trump promised he would deport illegals yet Manure hasn't packed his bags to Venezuela yet.

Fuck Lyin' Trump.

That is the best thing I've read in this dumbass political thread TBH

[rjv]

this thread has turned in the worst possible way.

[cd021]

Southern Strategy has been debunked multiple times. Here is a link from the NY Times talking about this very thing. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html That being said, I do believe that there are racists in the republican party and also the democratic party. I mean hell... could you imagine the outrage if Trump held his campaign headquarters in the hometown of the KKK like Jimmy Carter did?

If you read the article you posted then you would know that it was the opinion of two political scientists who wrote a book about the subject, far from conclusive to say the least.

[cd021]

this thread has turned in the worst possible way.

We need a Woj bomb about Kyrie's situation to make the thread great again.

[rjv]

We need a Woj bomb about Kyrie's situation to make the thread great again.

[cd021]

So why haven't the democrats apologized for using race in their political strategy?

Sure, putting all their cards on the table isn't a bad thing, on both sides.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Take this shit to the Political Forum already. I come to SpursTalk to get away from this crap. Both parties are shit. Politicians only worry about being re-elected--not doing what's best for the country. I stopped watching the news in 2012 and am much happier for it. When I see the occasional newscast it just confirms that nothing ever changes. You could run the same newscast from 2012 and the stories are the same. I made the conscious decision to insure that whatever these losers do impacts me as little as possible. So if you want to debate which party is the lesser of 2 evils take it to the Political Forum where it belongs and people looking for commentary on the Spurs can ignore you.

[superbigtime]

Take this shit to the Political Forum already. I come to SpursTalk to get away from this crap. Both parties are shit. Politicians only worry about being re-elected--not doing what's best for the country. I stopped watching the news in 2012 and am much happier for it. When I see the occasional newscast it just confirms that nothing ever changes. You could run the same newscast from 2012 and the stories are the same. I made the conscious decision to insure that whatever these losers do impacts me as little as possible. So if you want to debate which party is the lesser of 2 evils take it to the Political Forum where it belongs and people looking for commentary on the Spurs can ignore you.

[TheDoctor]

We need a Woj bomb about Kyrie's situation to make the thread great again.
Waiting for that Woj bomb like:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHxoU38U0AAgkSQ?format=jpg&name=large

[AFMadison]

They fingering each other and were convicted despite DNA evidence not matching any of theirs. Trump took out full page ads which helped turn the city against them. They were all exonerated later when a convicted inmate confessed and his DNA matched.

They received $41 million dollars in a settlement afterwards however Trump based the deal and claimed that they were still guilty with out a shred of evidence to support his claim.
Yea but that was after the fact, DNA later exonerated them. There was no DNA at the time of the verdict. Trump posted that stuff after they all were finger pointing. Doesn't seem too bad when you consider that they were all ratting each other out for a crime they never committed....

[AFMadison]

Take this shit to the Political Forum already. I come to SpursTalk to get away from this crap. Both parties are shit. Politicians only worry about being re-elected--not doing what's best for the country. I stopped watching the news in 2012 and am much happier for it. When I see the occasional newscast it just confirms that nothing ever changes. You could run the same newscast from 2012 and the stories are the same. I made the conscious decision to insure that whatever these losers do impacts me as little as possible. So if you want to debate which party is the lesser of 2 evils take it to the Political Forum where it belongs and people looking for commentary on the Spurs can ignore you.
You made a political statement while telling people to move their beliefs to a political forum, Sad!

[AFMadison]

Proof of Obama waving his .... at women reporters.

And since the republicans outright said they were going to automatically say no to anything Obama was going to put across before even looking at it you have to look at the republicans as just as, or more than the reason for your complaints.The republicans, with their Tea Party (how cute), were very willing to drag the country to hell to have it their way. And as I said Obama brought us out of the biggest recession since The Great Depression, the republicans tried to hold the country hostage.
Democrats are currently holding the nation hostage as we speak. As for the proof of obama waving his erection, search for it... it's on video. I want you to watch it, and imagine what would happen if Trump did that.

[Captivus]

If Kyrie doesnt get traded this thread is gonna last until he does...so..1 more year. This will be a record thread.

[vander]

If Kyrie doesnt get traded this thread is gonna last until he does...so..1 more year. This will be a record thread.

it's a great thread man, this thread is hope and change.

[DeRozan m8]

Age 14-20. :lol

Dunno if you're talking about my age or what but I'm 33

[BatManu20]

900092761570803712

[baseline bum]

this thread has turned in the worst possible way.

Why? Did Kyrie get traded to Phoenix? :depressed

[cd021]

Yea but that was after the fact, DNA later exonerated them. There was no DNA at the time of the verdict. Trump posted that stuff after they all were finger pointing. Doesn't seem too bad when you consider that they were all ratting each other out for a crime they never committed....

Five minorities; 4 Black, one Hispanic being questioned by the NYPD over the rape of a white woman in an high profile case, they ratted on each other in that situation, they were convicted even though the DNA did not match any of theirs. As far as I could tell, the DNA was available at the time. One would think that if they had raped the victim then at least one of their DNA would be found but none were.

Trump certainly played a role in turning the city against them and him refusing to admit he was wrong even after it was proven that they were innocent and claiming that they were still guilty is ridiculous.

There was a documentary that came out last year about it; if your interesting in watching it. I haven't checked it out yet but plan on it.

[SPURt]

900092761570803712
Kyrie is gonna love having Lebron's bottom take more of his shots

[cd021]

Why? Did Kyrie get traded to Phoenix? :depressed

To be serious, and get back to the original point of the thread, I am not sure why they haven't pulled the trigger on a deal for Kyrie. They have the most assets after Boston. Either the Suns aren't that interest, their offers have been underwhelming, or Cleveland is waiting to see if there is an better offer.

[cd021]

900092761570803712

Crazy, even if they were to keep Kyrie and add Wade for the min. they still wouldn't be in the Warriors league.

[baseline bum]

To be serious, and get back to the original point of the thread, I am not sure why they haven't pulled the trigger on a deal for Kyrie. They have the most assets after Boston. Either the Suns aren't that interest, their offers have been underwhelming, or Cleveland is waiting to see if there is an better offer.

Cleveland probably thinks Phoenix will cave and include Jackson.

[CGD]

900092761570803712

Anything that gets Lebron to commit to staying in CLE is helpful for spurs chances of landing Irving. Only way they take our "win now" package.

[Ron Swanson]

900115326175784961

[TheDoctor]

Anything that gets Lebron to commit to staying in CLE is helpful for spurs chances of landing Irving. Only way they take our "win now" package.

I think this isn't that case tho. Possible scenario:
1) CHI will buyout Wade's contract.
2) He'll play this season or some of this season in CLE then bolt possibly to MIA next year.
3) Wade will sign a new contract w/ MIA to finish his career there.

[monkeypunk]

900115326175784961

/thread

[baseline bum]

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Cleveland has to jump all over this offer. They're not going to get any offer close to the value Thomas would provide.

[TheGreatYacht]

Cleveland would be retarded if they trade for an aging 5'9 midget with a bad hip on a contract year.

Their future would be completely fucked after this season when him and Lebron crip walk outta there

[TD 21]

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 5m5 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576)

Sources: Boston, Cleveland nearing deal on Kyrie Irving, but details still working to completion. Isaiah Thomas, Crowder, pick(s) in talks.

Boston center Ante Zizic also expected to be part of a potential Cleveland deal for Kyrie Irving, league sources tell ESPN.

[goliath]

Why would Cleveland want isiah. He's a free agent that wants $30mil + after this year. Unless the nets pick is involved I would rather have lma, green and Murray

[cd98]

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I just don't buy it. Thomas will be a free agent next year and walk if Lebron leaves. And what if Kyrie helped the Celtics beat the Cavs in the playoffs? The humiliation. I just don't see it.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ante Zizic :lmao

Cleveland is about to get robbed

[cd98]

Great deal for Celts if it happens. They get a young point guard to grow with their team and they don't get stuck paying Isaiah Thomas big bucks. Isaiah gets screwed in this deal.

[TheGreatYacht]

Doubtful anything will happen. Ainge is always leaking fake news to reporters and 95% of the time the trade fails because of some bum like Terry Rozier.

[AFMadison]

Idk why Boston would want to make that trade. Isaiah is Boston imo. Dude will be a Celtic for life if they don't trade him. Would be nice to see Clev vs Bos in ECF though....

[lilbthebasedgod]

lol if Cleveland does that trade. Isaiah is trash.

[TheGreatYacht]

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:lmao

[Robz4000]

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:lmao

Along with Jae Crowder and potentially Jalen Brown (both great to elite defenders) while losing an awful one in Irving. Honestly this trade works out for both teams, albeit moreso for the Cavs if they also get a first.

Spurs playing checkers while the rest of the (relevant) league plays chess.

[SPURt]

Why would Cleveland want isiah. He's a free agent that wants $30mil + after this year. Unless the nets pick is in I would rather have lma, green and Murray
Boston must be offering a dope pick but Thomas is only 28 giving him a higher market value than LMA. LMA is really screwing the Spurs on and off the court by playing like Sandusky's balls after a Penn State shower.

[LakerHater]

Cavs & Bos Hav now reached an agreement!!

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[szkorhetz]

Cavs.. :lol
Welcome to SA, LeBron!

[LakerHater]

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[lilbthebasedgod]

That's certainly an interesting trade...That's pretty even I guess idk.

[SPURt]

Cavs & Bos Hav now reached an agreement!!

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Wow, can't believe that BK pick was enough to trade Kyrie to a rival. The NBA must be happy.

[baseline bum]

Cavs.. :lol
Welcome to LA, LeBron!

fify

[Darius Bieber]

Damn, Cavs getting the Nets' unprotected first round pick. They are geared up for the future.

[Clipper Nation]

You guys are really overrating Kyrie if you think that's anywhere near an even trade. The Celtics got trade-raped.

[BillMc]

Wow, can't believe that BK pick was enough to trade Kyrie to a rival. The NBA must be happy.

Isn't that BK pick unprotected? Cavs did alright given the circumstances. Not sure how much better Boston will be. Marginally, I guess. Cavs-Boston ECF will get more dramatic.

[SAGirl]

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[SAGirl]

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:wow

[Robz4000]

God damn Cleveland made away like bandits in that deal. They have better odds against GS now; still won't beat them but they have a better shot now. Don't really understand the deal for Boston, especially adding that pick they refused to trade before.

[benefactor]

It's over, Spurfan.

:cry but he'll sign and extension :cry

[timtonymanu]

lol remember when Spurs fans thought Kyrie was actually coming here.

[TheRemix]

Its ok we still got murray guys..:depressed

[LakerHater]

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[Hoops Czar]

Close the book on the Spurs miserable offseaon.

[TD 21]

Getting the Nets' '18 1st now makes this trade make sense from Cavaliers' perspective. In fact, you could easily argue Celtics overpaid, but Cavaliers get to have their cake (remain '18 East favorites) and eat it too (quality future assets).

Great timing for Cavaliers: Bulls and Pacers got trashed for their star trades and Celtics have long been trashed for inability/refusal to pull the trigger on a significant trade.

Bad news for Spurs is, there's no reason for Irving to want to leave Celtics in 2 years. They check virtually every conceivable box.

Don't know how Spurs fans could complain though; there was never anything they could do about this.

[TheGreatYacht]

Did not expect them to finally let go of a Brooklyn pick :wow

RC Buford just let his team get cucked twice. At least he has Fatty Mills and Pau

[timtonymanu]

Dubs vs Cavs part 4. Smh. This league is so boring

[baseline bum]

Idk why Boston would want to make that trade. Isaiah is Boston imo. Dude will be a Celtic for life if they don't trade him. Would be nice to see Clev vs Bos in ECF though....

I think Boston won this trade. Irving is three years younger and they won't have to pay him $30 million a year like they would Thomas next summer. Thomas has bounced around the league a lot and just screams system player to me, like a lot of his success is due to playing for a top tier coach in Stevens. I see no way a lower tier coach like Lue is going to get anywhere near as much out of a limited player like Thomas. That's not the kind of player I want to be maxing out, especially at 5'9". Small point guards like Thomas age horribly too. Look as Isiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson, Allen Iverson. I would not want to pay that guy a five year max deal next summer, but that's what they'd have to do to keep him. Instead they got a better player who is younger and should age a lot better. I'd be much more comfortable maxing a three year younger Irving on a five year deal in summer after next when his game is dependent more on elite ballhandling rather than speed, and his size is much better.

[ducks]

surpised they traded him to boston who is or was already a contender

not sure this makes boston that much better
Thomas was not a bad point guard

short
read bb post Thomas is not a max player though

[cjw]

Spurs had no way of ever matching an asset like the Brooklyn first without trading Kawhi. So deal was impossible.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Spurs are trash, bring Tim Duncan back.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lebron and Kawhi are going to be so good in LA. Can't wait

[BillMc]

Spurs had no way of ever matching an asset like the Brooklyn first without trading Kawhi. So deal was impossible.

This. I'm sure RC did his best, but he just didn't have the pieces to compete with Boston's offer.

[SAGirl]

Good deal for Cleveland. They wouldn't have gotten a better deal. That's as good as they were hoping to get. Boston probably had to increase their offers to beat Phoenix.

[baseline bum]

Still, Cleveland did about as well as they possibly could. Thomas, Crowder, plus the Brooklyn pick just murders the best Phoenix could offer: namely, Bledsoe, Jackson, and crap.

[SpurPadre]

Not that we ever had a chance at getting Irving but does this news along with losing out to CP3 make this the worst offseason in the PATFO era in terms of hopes and expectations?

[baseline bum]

Not that we ever had a chance at getting Irving but does this news along with losing out to CP3 make this the worst offseason in the PATFO era in terms of hopes and expectations?

Nah, 03 was worse when they were targeting Jason Kidd and Jermaine O'Neal and ended up signing Rasho Nesterovic to a 6 year deal instead.

[cd98]

Can't hate on Spurs front office. You can't acquire assets by winning 50+ games every year. When they have scored on a late round pick, they've traded them for better players (Hill for Kawhi; Tiago corpse for LMA). Their only fault was not robbing Billy King before Ainge did.

[BillMc]

Not that we ever had a chance at getting Irving but does this news along with losing out to CP3 make this the worst offseason in the PATFO era in terms of hopes and expectations?

You mean because we lost scrub Dedmon and replaced Simmons with Rudy Gay? And other than that retained a WCF team? I'm disappointed too, but the sky's not falling.

The "hey we acquired Richard Jefferson, now we're set" offseason turned out to be the most disappointing. We just didn't know it yet. :lol

[SpurPadre]

Nah, 03 was worse when they were targeting Jason Kidd and Jermaine O'Neal and ended up signing Rasho Nesterovic to a 6 year deal instead.

But Rasho>Joffrey and Brandon Paul

[TheGreatYacht]

Not that we ever had a chance at getting Irving but does this news along with losing out to CP3 make this the worst offseason in the PATFO era in terms of hopes and expectations?
If posters expected RC Buford's awkward ass to be a deal closer when it comes to superstars, you've watched the wrong team.

$98,000,000 to Patty Mills and Pau Gasol, signing a 31yr old cancer with no Achilles, and getting the wrong Paul is a typical RC Drunkford offseason

[spursmvp]

Not that we ever had a chance at getting Irving but does this news along with losing out to CP3 make this the worst offseason in the PATFO era in terms of hopes and expectations?

How about all the RJ years?

[Chillen]

Wow, Boston just got fleeced. All the Cavs gave up was Irving and they got a pick and deeper. Cavs Finals bound again assuming no injurys occur.

[LakerHater]

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[spursmvp]

You mean because we lost scrub Dedmon and replaced Simmons with Rudy Gay? And other than that retained a WCF team? I'm disappointed too, but the sky's not falling.

The "hey we acquired Richard Jefferson, now we're set" offseason turned out to be the most disappointing. We just didn't know it yet. :lol

Now it's "hey we acquired LMA, now we're set"

[ace3g]

Dejounte is like phew!!!

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[Leetonidas]

Smh Boston. Lost two starters and got back a player who some would argue isnt even as good currently as Thomas. I mean I get it. But sucks they had to dump crowder too. Cavs did good but their defense is still complete trash

[Robz4000]

You mean because we lost scrub Dedmon and replaced Simmons with Rudy Gay? And other than that retained a WCF team? I'm disappointed too, but the sky's not falling.

The "hey we acquired Richard Jefferson, now we're set" offseason turned out to be the most disappointing. We just didn't know it yet. :lol

Rudy Gay post-Achilles <<< Simmons

[UZER]

Cavs.. :lol
Welcome to SA, LeBron!

Just like Pops like em...old and past their prime.

[BillMc]

Now it's "hey we acquired LMA, now we're set"
:lol

[SpurPadre]

You mean because we lost scrub Dedmon and replaced Simmons with Rudy Gay? And other than that retained a WCF team? I'm disappointed too, but the sky's not falling.

The "hey we acquired Richard Jefferson, now we're set" offseason turned out to be the most disappointing. We just didn't know it yet. :lol

Rudy Gay is no sure thing though. And Dedmon has a better track record than Joffrey Laverne and Shirley.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

#tank

[baseline bum]

Smh Boston. Lost two starters and got back a player who some would argue isnt even as good currently as Thomas. I mean I get it. But sucks they had to dump crowder too. Cavs did good but their defense is still complete trash

Crowder is the odd man out with Hayward there and the team needing to develop Tatum and Brown.

[SpurPadre]

How about all the RJ years?

I'm just saying this is up there and if we're serious about battling the Warriors...this has been a monumentally bad offseason for us tbh.

[baseline bum]

Rudy Gay is no sure thing though. And Dedmon has a better track record than Joffrey Laverne and Shirley.

I'm pretty sure Gay will be like Jefferson tbh

[Robz4000]

I'm pretty sure Gay will be like Jefferson tbh

Universally hated and regarded as a cancer pretty quickly?

[BillMc]

I'm pretty sure Gay will be like Jefferson tbh

Yes, the words Gay and Jefferson are often paired together.

[SAGirl]

Dejounte is like phew!!!

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Wow the timing.... you are so right.

[baseline bum]

Universally hated and regarded as a cancer pretty quickly?

And overpaid

[turb0time]

LOL

[timtonymanu]

Rudy Gay post-Achilles <<< Simmons

By far

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

At least we have Aldridge

[BatManu20]

Welp. So much for that idea.

[TheDoctor]

At least we have Aldridge
And former star Rudy Gay.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Re-post


Don't think people realize just how bad Buford fucked our cap next offseason with those $98M combined contracts to Gasol and Mills.

Aldridge isn't opting out of an easy 23M, Parker and Green will both be brought back next offseason and they're not earning less than Patty (12.5M/yr)

Kawhi better start trading in those wingstop coupons for a first class ticket to LA.

[Proxy]

almost got to 100

[apalisoc_9]

lets get this to a 100 pages with a bunch of :lmao