Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[Phenomanul]

Kyrie to the Spurs,
LMA and Murray to Cleveland,
Lebron to LA,
Love to Boston,
I. Thomas to LA,
Lonzo to the Spurs,
Tristan Thompson to Boston,
Ingram to the Spurs,
Kuzma to Cleveland,
Marcus Smart to LA.

Bam!!!!! Get it done!!! :claw

I laughed... the deal just kept getting bigger and bigger, 'til the number of players involved exploded into the comical realm.

[spurraider21]

good thing we gave 50 mil to house :lol

[spurs10]

He's under control for only one more July. They aren't replacing their depth at this point. Kyrie/Kawhi/LMA can win a title. Kyrie/Kawhi can't.
What other trades work salary wise. Keeping LMA and getting Kyrie would be pretty damn amazing.

[Phenomanul]

IF Kyrie ever landed a Spurs' uniform he would quickly become one of the most talented players ever to don the jersey.

He still owns the AT&T Center's scoring record at 57.

[TheRemix]

R.C has to get it done. It would be beauuuutiful

[sasaint]

I laughed... the deal just kept getting bigger and bigger, 'til the number of players involved exploded into the comical realm.

Stopped reading at Lonzo to the Spurs. A trade worthy of Cecil B. DeMille. :lol

[cjw]

What other trades work salary wise. Keeping LMA and getting Kyrie would be pretty damn amazing.

Almost impossible to get it to work without Aldridge. How do you get $15.6mm out the door otherwise unless it's Parker. But Spurs would never do that to HOTS.

[Laughing Gravy]

He's under control for only one more July. They aren't replacing their depth at this point. Kyrie/Kawhi/LMA can win a title. Kyrie/Kawhi can't.

FUCK LMA with a rubber hose. We aint winning SHIT with that soft ass bitch. Ship his ass for ANYTHING just get him off the team.

[spurs10]

IF Kyrie ever landed a Spurs' uniform he would quickly become one of the most talented players ever to don the jersey.

He still owns the AT&T Center's scoring record at 57. Id almost forgotten about that painful loss...thanks! :lol

[Chinook]

What other trades work salary wise. Keeping LMA and getting Kyrie would be pretty damn amazing.

If the Spurs can stay under the tax with this trade (which is possible with Simmons leaving and no LLE being used), they can get by with the 175%-plus-$100k rule. So Green and incentive would be enough. That's even more true if the Spurs trade Parker for a bad contract to add value. Kyrie makes a much as Kawhi; they don't need to go through hoops to match a deal that small.

[spurs10]

Almost impossible to get it to work without Aldridge. How do you get $15.6mm out the door otherwise unless it's Parker. But Spurs would never do that to HOTS.
That's what I'm thinking. We would need to get another big for sure, but Kyrie would be a killer addition. I'm sure PATFO is weighing the pros and cons.

[spurs10]

If the Spurs can stay under the tax with this trade (which is possible with Simmons leaving and no LLE being used), they can get by with the 175%-plus-$100k rule. So Green and incentive would be enough. That's even more true if the Spurs trade Parker for a bad contract to add value. Kyrie makes a much as Kawhi; they don't need to go through hoops to match a deal that small. Thank you Chinook. I'm intrigued.

[TimDunkem]

People here are stupid if they think Kyrie wouldn't be a great fit. He doesn't necessarily need to be the number one option. He just needs the ball in his hands which is just fine for the Spurs system. Tony only had the ball in his hands his entire career...All Kawhi would have to do is post up, work off the ball, and spot up which we'll save him from expending tons of energy.

[cjw]

If the Spurs can stay under the tax with this trade (which is possible with Simmons leaving and no LLE being used), they can get by with the 175%-plus-$100k rule. So Green and incentive would be enough. That's even more true if the Spurs trade Parker for a bad contract to add value. Kyrie makes a much as Kawhi; they don't need to go through hoops to match a deal that small.

Isn't it salaries within $5 million? 175% plus $100k only applies when small amounts are going out the door.

I was wrong too - I was doing 125% plus 100k. Kyrie is $18.869 so falls below the $19.6mm threshold. Spurs only need to send out $13.869.

Danny and Anderson is $12.152. Only need another $1.717. Murray alone isn't enough. Could do Murray and Forbes.

[Phenomanul]

He's a better fit than CP3 because of the size of his contract and ummmmm....

Cause he's only 25.

[ElNono]

RC will hire Krista Irving instead...

[tbdog]

That's what I'm thinking. We would need to get another big for sure, but Kyrie would be a killer addition. I'm sure PATFO is weighing the pros and cons.

Coming to think of it, you will have to trade away Parker. You can't have 45mil in PGs.

[yavozerb]

He's a better fit than CP3 because of the size of his contract and ummmmm....

Cause he's only 25.

The fact he is only 25 and still has 2 years left on his contract is why the spurs should try and do this deal.. Elite scorer entering his prime reminds me a lot of Harden when he lft okc..

[TimDunkem]

Yeah. Something tells me, even if all they would really have to do is jettison Parker for a year for Kyrie, the Spurs wouldn't do it because "loyalty and culture :cry".

[ace3g]

The best thing so far Jordan Schultz says Knicks and Cavs are in serious talks. He burned me on the Gortat for Splitter trade a few years ago.

[TheGreatYacht]

Aldridge, Murray, Green + 1st has to be the trade package

[dabom]

RC will hire Krista Irving instead...

Krista Irving 2.

[TimDunkem]

Aldridge, Murray, Green + 1st has to be the trade package
Inb4 "Green is too valuable".

[pookenstein]

People here are stupid if they think Kyrie wouldn't be a great fit. He doesn't necessarily need to be the number one option. He just needs the ball in his hands which is just fine for the Spurs system. Tony only had the ball in his hands his entire career...All Kawhi would have to do is post up, work off the ball, and spot up which we'll save him from expending tons of energy.

A positive side effect could be that Apalikescock, dumbbom etc. might go the Chester Bennington route and hang themselves because Kawhi's numbers could suffer.

[TheGreatYacht]

People here are stupid if they think Kyrie wouldn't be a great fit. He doesn't necessarily need to be the number one option. He just needs the ball in his hands which is just fine for the Spurs system. Tony only had the ball in his hands his entire career...All Kawhi would have to do is post up, work off the ball, and spot up which we'll save him from expending tons of energy.
Typical dipshits overthinking stuff, content with a mediocre supporting cast

[TheDoctor]

http://cdn.sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/LeBron-Cant-Leave-you-if-you-leave-him-first-1024x781.jpg

[spurs10]

Coming to think of it, you will have to trade away Parker. You can't have 45mil in PGs.
Trading Parker would be a shocker and the most un-Spurs move I can think of. I'm very strongly in the camp of adding Kyrie would move the dial toward a 'ship considerably. Losing our best big is a tough one. Can't see them trading aTony, too many wives would complain!

[Ron Swanson]

http://cdn.sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/LeBron-Cant-Leave-you-if-you-leave-him-first-1024x781.jpg


:lol

[td4mvp2k]

The best thing so far Jordan Schultz says Knicks and Cavs are in serious talks. He burned me on the Gortat for Splitter trade a few years ago.they been trying to make a deal now they can

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFStkeFV0AIZ3gE?format=jpg&name=large

[NASpurs]

Let's be real though, even with a shit ton of cap space, the Spurs would never get someone of Kyrie's caliber in the offseason. They're batting 1 for like 100 if you count LMA. Trades need to happen.

[TheGreatYacht]

Do it RC, you dumb fucking alcoholic. Make it happen!
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/920x920.jpg
Cavs will probably call him, but Drunkford will hang up when he hears Cavs want the rights to our 2009 stash Jdnakainov Stpocjsknovic, who is playing in Siberia.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSr_mwXUAEYELa?format=jpg&name=large

[NASpurs]

:lmao

888529617623101440

[BatManu20]

Lol JR Smith on the Spurs. I remember when PATFO were briefly interested him like 3 years ago and then they realized what a colossal dumbass he is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSrNioVYAAaUuH?format=jpg&name=large

[TimDunkem]

Cavs will probably call him, but Drunkford will hang up when he hears Cavs want the rights to our 2009 stash Jdnakainov Stpocjsknovic, who is playing in Siberia.
http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have :nerd"

[TheGreatYacht]

http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have :nerd"
:lmao perfect

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSsZ6AU0AEmZ_u?format=jpg&name=large

[SpurOutofTownFan]

First, I don't believe for a second there is bad blood between Kyrie and Lebron. This reeks of huge CIA-LBJ for both of them to get the hell out of there in a coordinated way. In fact, if they still want to play together in the future in the same team they need to be moved separately.

The only contract the Spurs have in value and money is LMA and they need to offer something else on top. A 3 way deal with another team can make it happen. If LMA is off then you take Kyrie's contract now and then Parker contract will be off the books next year. In that case you can get LBJ as well next summer and then you have Kawhi, Kyrie, and LBJ plus all the other pieces around and you can keep Parker, Mills, Gay, and perhaps Green. Gasol will be there and then the younger guys whatever it's left.

I believe the Cavs have already imploded after today and this is a sabbatical year for LBJ if Kyrie gets traded. They'll be back to tanking and lottery.

[Spur|n|Austin]

http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have :nerd"

:lol funny bc it's true

[Leetonidas]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gilbert would try to shed some of that salary. They won their chip. I cant imagine he is happy with that massive payroll and tax he is playing especially for scrubs like Shumpert and Thompson

[BatManu20]

Heart eyes.



http://i64.tinypic.com/2ly0g9k.jpg

[Ron Swanson]

http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have :nerd"

Goddammit :lol

[Phenomanul]

New York will probably offer Porzingis + ____ + draft pick and that unicorn will be enough of a prize to satisfy both parties.

[ElNono]

http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have :nerd"

:lol

[cjw]

Go to the Lakers so Lebron doesn't sign there and comes to SA, and if he does so the Lakers have to dump him next offseason.

Or have Lebron go be Lakers GM and kill the team like GM Lebron does.

[mo7888]

:lmao

888529617623101440

If the Cavaliers had the option to make that trade and didn't do it they deserve to be cursed

[TimDunkem]

Heart eyes.



http://i64.tinypic.com/2ly0g9k.jpg
I love how dumping the corpse of TP and Fathead has improved the Spurs projected win total more than any other scenario you've posted. :lmao

[barbacoataco]

To me Lebron is a wanker and the epitome of the lamo modern NBA star, and everything wrong with the NBA. The whole "I'm going to cry and complain and threaten to move if I'm not surrounded by more Allstars" thing is crazy. Whatever happened to "we're going to work harder in the offseason to improve and come back and play harder next year and win." It's free agency run amok with no loyalty to team or city.

Compare this to the way the MLB used to be. A player was scouted and discovered by a scout in high scool. Then they were drafted, developed in the minors, and came out as part of a franchise. The team with the best scouts, coaches, trainers, and front office were the winners. Small market teams could compete. But the fans were also winners because their heroes were actually a part of the franchise, not just a rented piece.

Now the NBA is all about spending the most money, collecting the most Allstars, buying championships. The small market teams can't compete(except for the Spurs) and the league is super non-competitive.

And what to make of Lebron? He broke Cleveland's heart, then he came back, now he's going to leave again.

[BatManu20]

I love how dumping the corpse of TP and Fathead has improved the Spurs projected win total more than any other scenario you've posted. :lmao


Lmao

[TD 21]

Don't trust the source, but I could see the logic behind a Cavaliers, Knicks, Suns, 3 team trade. Anthony and Bledsoe are James' friends and are win now players, but Anthony would obviously have to have some assurance that James stays beyond next season to waive his no trade and Love would either have to go to Suns or be traded elsewhere for Anthony to fit.


Gut the roster? Outside of Leonard, thed Spurs have nothing. Kylie isn't eligible for free agency until 2019 so the Spurs have a couple of years to play around with to see how he'd fit. Not many elite players are going to shun the big city and bright lights to play for a small market team like the Spurs in order to win a championship. The Spurs have to take what they can get. He can also help recruit a third star to S.A. because I have no confidence Leonard will ever open his mouth.


Typical dipshits overthinking stuff, content with a mediocre supporting cast

:tu

Amazing how many Spurs fans don't get that any legit second star, in tandem with Leonard and as a recruiter, leads to the much needed third star . . . but let's nitpick him to death, overrate the current team and keep waiting on that unicorn.

They should be the most aggressive team pursuing this, yet I have no confidence that they are or will be. Of course, they'll do due diligence, but that's probably all they'll do, while teams like Heat and Knicks, among others, will exhaust all possibilities.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSrtz9VoAAtkds?format=jpg&name=large

[sasaint]

http://cdn.sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/LeBron-Cant-Leave-you-if-you-leave-him-first-1024x781.jpg

:toast :lmao

[Mal]

Whatever the cost, beside Kawhi, fucking do it.

[BatManu20]

NYC most likely amid reports.


888524825311928321

[szkorhetz]

Whatever the cost, beside Kawhi, fucking do it.

[Big Empty]

they could probably snag Rose as a back up plan at pg if they trade for Melo

[sasaint]

Don't trust the source, but I could see the logic behind a Cavaliers, Knicks, Suns, 3 team trade. Anthony and Bledsoe are James' friends and are win now players, but Anthony would obviously have to have some assurance that James stays beyond next season to waive his no trade and Love would either have to go to Suns or be traded elsewhere for Anthony to fit.

Whether PATFO even does its due diligence or not, I am not sure we have any assets not named "Kawhi" that would net us Kyrie. Plus moving LMA without either creating a little cap space or getting a big in return would leave us bare-threaded in the frontcourt.



:tu

Amazing how many Spurs fans don't get that any legit second star, in tandem with Leonard and as a recruiter, leads to the much needed third star . . . but let's nitpick him to death, overrate the current team and keep waiting on that unicorn.

They should be the most aggressive team pursuing this, yet I have no confidence that they are or will be. Of course, they'll do due diligence, but that's probably all they'll do, while teams like Heat and Knicks, among others, will exhaust all possibilities.

[Mal]

The question is how much can Irving has to say, on where he gets traded. There are teams willing to pay a lot for him.

[hater]

:lmao you niggas are hitting the pipe hard today

cleveland is not going to give up Kyrie for the trash players that Fat Antonio has :lmao

We have a bunch of Basura after Kawhi. Get real.

Be happy we got a one legged Gay

[sasaint]

Lol JR Smith on the Spurs. I remember when PATFO were briefly interested him like 3 years ago and then they realized what a colossal dumbass he is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSrNioVYAAaUuH?format=jpg&name=large

Not the narrative I heard. Actually reached an agreement to trade Brent for JR but filed the paperwork too late. pop even informed Brent of the trade... But maybe I heard wrong.

[TheGreatYacht]

:tu

Amazing how many Spurs fans don't get that any legit second star, in tandem with Leonard and as a recruiter, leads to the much needed third star . . . but let's nitpick him to death, overrate the current team and keep waiting on that unicorn.

They should be the most aggressive team pursuing this, yet I have no confidence that they are or will be. Of course, they'll do due diligence, but that's probably all they'll do, while teams like Heat and Knicks, among others, will exhaust all possibilities.
Holy shit. THIS.

I posted a couple of weeks ago that Kawhi + CP3 might have not been enough to beat the Warriors this year, but signing him would increase our chances tremendously of signing a third star next offseason. You need 2 before you can get to 3. The Spurs just have 1 right now, and that 1 isn't a huge recruiter.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I don't see why Kyrie would go to any of the losing teams that are thrown out there now. NY? MIA? why? He's at least winning where he is now. The only team that is a contender and are in need of a PG is the Spurs.

Then do a 3 or 4 way trade including other teams and make it so

[TD 21]

sasaint, maybe "we" don't have the assets in a direct sense, but they've got to exhaust all possibilities (3, even 4 team trades; whatever can get them what they're looking for) and not just play it safe.

This roster isn't winning a championship, so think of this as a bridge to building one that possibly can at some point. Obviously, the front line wouldn't be good enough, but like I said, if they have Leonard and Irving (not only part of the in crowd, but overrated among his peers) in place, they instantly become the number one destination for the next star free agent.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFS5FU2W0AAdoj_.jpg

[Chinook]

He'd have to change that number, tbh.

[spurraider21]

He'd have to change that number, tbh.
:rollin

[hater]

Cavs front office would have to be high as fuck to take any offer from spurs

Wake da fuck up

[BatManu20]

I'll raise ya Ace.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSr0ErUIAAjWBP?format=jpg&name=large

[TimDunkem]

Cavs front office would have to be high as fuck to take any offer from spurs

Wake da fuck up
No one here seriously thinks we're getting him. He'll be a Cav or end up with some shit franchise when all is said and done. All anyone is saying is that the Spurs need to try.

[NASpurs]

He'd have to change that number, tbh.

I agree, Kyle has too much of a big head to give up his number.

*low-hanging fruit*

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSl1biXgAAYNDi.jpg:large

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Holy shit. THIS.

I posted a couple of weeks ago that Kawhi + CP3 might have not been enough to beat the Warriors this year, but signing him would increase our chances tremendously of signing a third star next offseason. You need 2 before you can get to 3. The Spurs just have 1 right now, and that 1 isn't a huge recruiter.

Agreed. If this is even a remote possibility the Spurs need to do everything in their power to make it happen.

And who knows what Cleveland would be willing to accept. To me, entertaining taking on Carmelo means they'll consider other reasonable offers. Carmelo's not all that, despite what he and Spike Lee think. Put Carmelo on the Spurs and he'd be more ridiculed than Aldridge+Jefferson put together by the posters in here by year end.

[timtonymanu]

Keep dreaming, it won't happen. This feels like a leverage move to me

[ElNono]

He'd have to change that number, tbh.

lol

[Big Empty]

The only way Spurs land this trade is by trading Parkers expiring contract and obtaining Thompson in the trade also

[BatManu20]

Knicks make the most sense if we're being honest.

[hater]

No one here seriously thinks we're getting him. He'll be a Cav or end up with some shit franchise when all is said and done. All anyone is saying is that the Spurs need to try.

The Spurs might as well try to land Manure on the moon. Thed have the same chance

[BatManu20]

Who says no...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSy7GeU0AEi0zY?format=jpg&name=large

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Keep dreaming, it won't happen. This feels like a leverage move to me

Or maybe...maybe he's just getting here first, setting the table for Lebron's arrival next summer. Another brilliant CIA Pop move.

[timtonymanu]

Knicks make the most sense if we're being honest.

Yep Melo for Kyrie seems the most likely to me

[ElNono]

We already have Costello...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Who says no...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSy7GeU0AEi0zY?format=jpg&name=large


Other than the Cavs, no one!! Pull the f'n trigger Pop!!

[Texas_Ranger]

I'd give them the next three 1st rounders with LMA and Murray.

[007nites]

We already have Costello...

:lol

[DAF86]

Yeah, because having LMA on the team has been so hampering to the Spurs...

No, paying Irving so much along with Kawhi isn't some obvious point. Do you actually think Kyrie, Kawhi and min deals is likely to do better than SA has recently? I can't think of any way to argue that. Only way it makes is if the Spurs use cap space on a guy like Cousins, but then that's cap hell. Depending on the price, go for it and hope it works out. But either they need to keep a strong roster this year or keep future prospects. They can't lose both.

Why would we need to have all minimum deals around two max contracts?

I am no cap expert, but teams throughout the history of the league have been able to form "big 3's" with a talented cast around them, heck the Warriors just formed a big 4, but we would only have room for just two max contracts and a bunch of minimum deals? :lol

And the Aldridge discussion isn't even worth having. I can't believe there are still guys that are against moving him.

[007nites]

I'd give them the next three 1st rounders with LMA and Murray.

Too much.

[UnWantedTheory]

Who says no...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSy7GeU0AEi0zY?format=jpg&name=large

Cleveland does.

[NASpurs]

Keep dreaming, it won't happen. This feels like a leverage move to me

Only 60+ win team in NBA history with no tradable assets. :lol

[cjw]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSl1biXgAAYNDi.jpg:large

Unlike thr #1 (goodbye Fathead), this is NEVER happening (#2).

[ElNono]

Who says no...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSy7GeU0AEi0zY?format=jpg&name=large

:pop:

[Mr. Body]

NYK bound.

[Mr. Body]

Not that Cleveland should want Melo.

[coachmac87]

Who says no...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSy7GeU0AEi0zY?format=jpg&name=large

Nah

[007nites]

NYK bound.

Cavs will only pull the trigger if they offer Porz

[Mr. Body]

Cavs will only pull the trigger if they over Porz

I think they'd take Anthony.

[007nites]

I think they'd take Anthony.

They offered Anthony with future first rounders already...

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-knicks-willing-to-trade-melo-but-not-porzingis-for-cavs-kyrie-irving/

[Texas_Ranger]

Too much.

well some of the last picks were shit tbh. I actualy believe that Murray can become a solid player, but after watching him in the SL I think he'll need a lot of time. And with him being a 3rd PG on this team he won't really be anything special. Milutinov who is pretty average in Europe so far, Anderson who is hated by most people here and Livio Jean Charles who is pathetic.

[Chinook]

Why would we need to have all minimum deals around two max contracts?

I am no cap expert, but teams throughout the history of the league have been able to form "big 3's" with a talented cast around them, heck the Warriors just formed a big 4, but we would only have room for just two max contracts and a bunch of minimum deals? :lol

Kawhi and Kyrie would push $80 Million in combined salary by the second year of their new contracts. That's assuming a flat cap. That leaves like $20 Million minus 10 roster charges. So that's $11 Million in cap space. So they'd be able to add a Haslem-level player, but it would take some time to build up depth. It's anyone's guess how much the cap will grow or if it will actually shrink soon. If it's expected to grow, you get Cousins to come on and hope three max deals and filler can carry you to victory. But in order for that to work, you need guys on cheap deals, which means draft picks and prospects. You get rid of those guys, you only have ring-chasers, and even with Leonard and Irving, it's not obvious the Spurs would get their pick of that crop.

Here's how I see it:

You give a Nets-like deal if the Cavs are willing to just take Parker's contract
You give up two picks and Murray and Bertans along with Green and swapping Parker for Smith/Shump
You give up two of those picks/prospects if LMA is going out, because you still need to replace him, and because LMA is more important than Green
You give up a lot less than that if you move LMA and Green. You essentially give youself one off-season to build a title team and need to keep a future either to recover or to fill in the cracks.

[RD2191]

I'm just here to push this bad boy to 100 pages. :wakeup

[007nites]

Lebron will probably push for the Knicks trade

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm just here to push this bad boy to 100 pages. :wakeup
Tell us how Jimmer is doing in the Icelandic Basketball Association Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

[LakerHater]

Can we throw in Pop too!!

[kaji157]

Someone can confirm which players San Antonio had already signed (not agreed or anything informal) and if patty mills is still eligible for a sign and trade?

[Big Empty]

Ha this thread kinda slowed down once the adrenalin came down and we noticed everyo other team has better trade pieces.

[RD2191]

Tell us how Jimmer is doing in the Icelandic Basketball Association Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

:lol

[RD2191]

Ha this thread kinda slowed down once the adrenalin came down and we noticed everyo other team has better trade pieces.

LMA is as good a player as any other team can offer TBH. The Cavs would never deal with SA though.

[kaji157]

Irving's contract it's great. It's a great length and still below 22 millions for each of the years.
Not trying to grab him would be insane.

[stxspurs]

Never happen. But if it did...we could forget lebron coming.
Pipe dreams

[Nathan89]

Lebron trying to move Kyrie to SA so he can follow after the season tbh.

[NASpurs]

Never happen. But if it did...we could forget lebron coming.
Pipe dreams

Like anyone believes Lebron is coming :lol, only way we could get someone is through a trade and this is an opportunity for a trade.

[kaji157]

Never happen. But if it did...we could forget lebron coming.
Pipe dreams

I could never envision LeBron playing here, San Antonio's lifestyle, the team culture, the under the radar press. Everything goes against what LeBron ever did.

[007nites]

I could never envision LeBron playing here, San Antonio's lifestyle, the team culture, the under the radar press. Everything goes against what LeBron ever did.

I would expect Cleveland press to be even smaller in stature then SA.

[Chinook]

Since when is two years a great length?

[kaji157]

Since when is two years a great length?
Since new contracts for that kind of players start at 35 millions.

[Uriel]

Spurs should literally be doing everything in their power short of trading Kawhi in order to make this happen..

I don't care if you have to trade Tony and his entire family into sex slavery... you do it.
:lmao

[Chinook]

Since new contracts for that kind of players start at 35 millions.

Kyrie is not Lebron or KD. Two years isn't long enough to throw caution to the wind. Dude's a huge defensive minus and needs to be supported by a strong roster.

[007nites]

https://i.gyazo.com/4b786ffcd300653ff70c9e2cfdbf1e0d.png

[Uriel]

I'm fapping so hard, let's do it Drunkford.
:lmao

[007nites]

https://i.gyazo.com/82b89c128728f15ead960c0e18a5807a.png

[RD2191]

Kyrie is not Lebron or KD. Two years isn't long enough to throw caution to the wind. Dude's a huge defensive minus and needs to be supported by a strong roster.

You just love being a contrarian don't you?

[Spurs9]

Does this news actually make Lebron a trade target THIS season? If Kyrie leaves, Lebron isn't staying. He wasn't probably planning on staying even before this news. They can get assets back if they trade him, they won't likley make the finals this year depending on the trade scenerios with Kyrie, but either way Lebron won't be happy.

[FkLA]

888497846034456576

888548418364121088

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

[Chinook]

You just love being a contrarian don't you?

No.

[NASpurs]

No.

:lol nice

[ducks]

Holy fuck if the Spurs can flip Softridge into Irving.

[Mr. Body]

Carmelo in Houston would be fucking hilarious. I see no way that team works.

I'm willing as hell to try Kyrie in SAS if Cleveland actually wants LMA/Green/Murray/whatever. He'd be a huge shot in the arm.

[RD2191]

No.

I see what you did there.

[FkLA]

You just love being a contrarian don't you?

The offense should be run through LMA not Kawhi, tbh.

[Dverde]

I agree you move anything not nailed down or named Kawhi Leonard. He's on a good contract too. I can't see this happening.

[RD2191]

The offense should be run through LMA not Kawhi, tbh.

:lmao

[Ron Swanson]

No.

:lol

[BillMc]

No.
:lol

[ducks]

Irving and Love for Aldridge, Green, Mills, draft picks and cash.

Cavs do this because:

-They fulfill Irving's wishes.
-They get rid of Love's contract.
-Get Aldridge's 22 millions expiring contract.
do it

[Dancelot]

https://i.gyazo.com/4b786ffcd300653ff70c9e2cfdbf1e0d.png
I really don't understand why, I'm totally down though.

[Joseph Kony]

888497846034456576

888548418364121088

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

:wow :wow :wow

[hater]

888501135585169408

[RD2191]

888501135585169408

:lmao

[Ron Swanson]

888501135585169408

:lmao

[Joseph Kony]

This is pretty nuts. Lol at everyone claiming a week ago no one wants to play for Pop

[CGD]

The basic framework below is interesting for all involved.

Irving to SAS
Aldridge to PHX
Bledsoe (and filler) to CLE

Spurs commit to Gay at the 4, and start Pau.

[TheGreatYacht]

This is pretty nuts. Lol at everyone claiming a week ago no one wants to play for Pop
It's more about playing with Kawhi tbh

[SAGirl]

If the cavs wanted just Ginobli and Parker for Irving, Popovich and Buford wouldnt do it.

Gollum voice: "My preciousssssses"

[FkLA]

888501135585169408

:lol

[007nites]

888501135585169408

:lol

[Spurs9]

888501135585169408

:lol
:lmao

[NASpurs]

The basic framework below is interesting for all involved.

Irving to SAS
Aldridge to PHX
Bledsoe (and filler) to CLE

Spurs commit to Gay at the 4, and start Pau.

A guy coming from a ACL injury starting at the 4 and a slow, basically 40 year old as your starting center. :lol Totally would need to be rebuilding around Kyrie and Kawhi if any of this were to happen.

[Mikeanaro]

Not a big fan of Irving, but if he is the catalyst to kick LMAO´s ass out of town Im all in.

[BatManu20]

If Kyrie really wants to be here this badly as reports indicate (which is actually unreal, tbh..), then you make it fucking happen, RC. No excuses.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol Haven't seen this posted yet

888501135585169408

[hater]

888554274996625408

[davidbowie]

PASS.

WE don't want kyrie!

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!!!!

Spurs bring em up the right way. None of this super team BS!

who's with me?????

[Joseph Kony]

PASS.

WE don't want kyrie!

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!!!!

Spurs bring em up the right way. None of this super team BS!

who's with me?????

lol

[coachmac87]

If Kyrie really wants to be here this badly as reports indicate (which is actually unreal, tbh..), then you make it fucking happen, RC. No excuses.

It's not that easy when you don't have the assets to complete the trade yourself and are depending on another team to provide the main asset going to Cleveland

[ducks]

PASS.

WE don't want kyrie!

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!!!!

Spurs bring em up the right way. None of this super team BS!

who's with me?????

spurs are not buying irving they trading for him

[007nites]

PASS.

WE don't want kyrie!

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!!!!

Spurs bring em up the right way. None of this super team BS!

who's with me?????

:lol

[Mr. Body]

The basic framework below is interesting for all involved.

Irving to SAS
Aldridge to PHX
Bledsoe (and filler) to CLE

Spurs commit to Gay at the 4, and start Pau.

Good player in Irving. Can be good player when motivated Aldridge. Fools gold who's never done a damn thing in Bledsoe.

That'd be a crap trade for Cleveland.

[BillMc]

This thread has Jimmer=like potential.

Does a team paying Kawhi and Kyrie both the supermax have a potential to upset Dubs??? Only makes sense if they keep LMA and Irving sets him up better than even Parker did.

[SAGirl]

888486562325032962

He already had a big role in Cleveland. I wonder if they phrase it that way, but what it means is, that he wants to move out of Lebron's shadow. Their relationship has been strained from the beginning IIRC

[99 Problems]

Kyrie is a smart guy.
Smart enough to know Kawhi is a superman.
kawa and Kyrie practically same age
POP takes over as coach of Team USA
All Star PG is about to retire soon in SA.

[NASpurs]

PASS.

WE don't want kyrie!

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!!!!

Spurs bring em up the right way. None of this super team BS!

who's with me?????

Yeah I get the joke but how is trading for a player "bought"? :lol

[hater]

888557045435289600

[ducks]

Good player in Irving. Can be good player when motivated Aldridge. Fools gold who's never done a damn thing in Bledsoe.

That'd be a crap trade for Cleveland.when players demand out they get crap back
had this not gone public cavs could have gotten more

[Mr. Body]

Kyrie is a smart guy.
Smart enough to know Kawhi is a superman.
kawa and Kyrie practically same age
POP takes over as coach of Team USA
All Star PG is about to retire soon in SA.

Kawhi and Kyrie are the two best players in a draft that was supposed to suck. Third best is Klay Thompson.

[hater]

888557973882142721

[ducks]

Kyrie Irving asked the Cavs to trade him in a meeting last week, sources told ESPN. Story posting on http://ESPN.com shortly

[SpurPadre]

LDN, LMA, Murray and future 1st round pick for Irving? Alot worse deals have been done than that, right?

[007nites]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/7/21/16013200/san-antonio-spurs-chances-landing-kyrie-irving

[SAGirl]

I'd trade Murray, Green and a 1st, also fathead as a sweetener .

:lol this one was funny
:bobo

[hater]

Haha I like when spurstalk gets more traffic on a topic than twitter

[coachmac87]

LDN, LMA, Murray and future 1st round pick for Irving? Alot worse deals have been done than that, right?


You expect the Cavs to pay LMA, Thompson, and Love??

[hater]

Any trade where Irving goes to Spurs, Love to a third team and Lamarcus+ someone go to Cavs????

[apalisoc_9]

I watched how much Coddling Lebron had to do just to get irving to play decent.

I might puked or die of anger and frustration just watching him play.

[Budkin]

We HAVE to get this guy!

[TheGreatYacht]

Aldridge
Melo
Lebron
Green
Rose

Irving to SA, Love to NY

[SpurPadre]

You expect the Cavs to pay LMA, Thompson, and Love??

3 team deal to trade Love and get another PG? But you're right, I'm just blinded by the thought of Irving in San Antonio. Thanks for thinking clearly for me lol.

[007nites]

You expect the Cavs to pay LMA, Thompson, and Love??

Suns get Aldridge + First Rounders
Cavs get Bledsoe, Green, and Murray
Spurs get Kyrie + Shumpert

[Chinook]

Suns aren't getting LMA AND picks for Bledsoe, especially not from SA.

[SAGirl]

Let the theories begin, the reason Spurs took Murray out of SL is to work on a trade for him to Cleveland.
i just wish billups was the cavs gm, he loves Murray

From the very beginning I suspected Murray was part of some trade.
It was just too weird that he was in minutes restrictions while being fully healthy from the very beginning in SL and being sat down... without a word. Yes he played poorly but he even sat down one game in Utah... the point of those games is to get players to be better, they don't count for anything and they actually are important for guys trying to improve. I thought, well what kind of a cancer is Murray getting to be that he has to be benched in summer league to be humbled and focus on his poor areas of his game?? It always made more sense to me, that his name was an asset involved in trades. The possibility of an injury was risky and if he wasn't playing well, which he wasn't, he'd tank his value with further exposure too, which he may have done anyways.

[007nites]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-reportedly-devastated-by-kyrie-irving-trade-request/

[Spurtacular]

Tell us how Jimmer is doing in the Icelandic Basketball Association Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

Tell us how Kawhi is the next Shaun Marion. :lmao

[weebo]

Rather keep and develop Murray. He's still young and raw and can be molded to play within the Spurs offense and his length and quickness makes him a better defender.

[bklynspursfan]

Can we throw in Pop too!!

-_-

[SAGirl]

I don't get the logic: He supposedly wants out of Cavaliers because an aging and potentially departing in a year James, is the focal point, but he's interested in Spurs, who have a younger focal point and who his coming to would ensure said focal point remains firmly entrenched?

Even if he's one of these idiots who doesn't believe Leonard is as good as he is and he thinks he's better, he has to know that Leonard has finished 2nd and 3rd respectively in MVP voting in consecutive seasons and made back to back All-NBA 1st teams.

Then there's the matter of Spurs lack of assets. They don't have the pieces you need to have a chance at a player of his caliber or the means to acquire those pieces through other avenues.

If he wins with the Spurs he will not only be an NBA champion again, but he will get credit as being the HOF teammate (potentially) that helped Kawhi get over the huge hump in the West. Kinda like Durant got that credit, but he would have really been a difference maker in that case. Last season the focus was on Lebron and he got very underwhelming credit for what he did. His relationship with Lebron has always been strained and he can see that the Cavs will soon be tanking. Lebron is going to pack up and leave and he doesn't care about the state he's leaving the Cavs in. Kyrie is jumping ship before the Cavs get there.

[DontStopBelieving]

Rather keep and develop Murray. He's still young and raw and can be molded to play within the Spurs offense and his length and quickness makes him a better defender.

stfu

[coachmac87]

Rather keep and develop Murray. He's still young and raw and can be molded to play within the Spurs offense and his length and quickness makes him a better defender.

Go him you're drunk..

[BatManu20]

Don't see why the Suns would want LMA at this point but I hope I'm wrong.

[Mr. Body]

Rather keep and develop Murray. He's still young and raw and can be molded to play within the Spurs offense and his length and quickness makes him a better defender.

With an insane amount of luck Murray could possibly be nearly as good as Kyrie Irving in about five to six years.

[Das Texan]

Quite frankly, if the Spurs are able to get Irving I'm ok with pretty much any trade they make even if it sends the team into a rebuild mode for a year or two. Outside of Leonard I would not consider anyone untradable on this team (although I don't think Pop will ever move Tony).

Manu, Tony, Kawhi wont be moved.
Gasol cant be moved now.
Nor can Patty.

the rest i think is open season.

[DPG21920]

Like Marks said, he doesn't have a no-trade and is under contract for multiple seasons, so they don't have to kowtow to him.

Why would Aldridge and Murray make Spurs a front runner? Cavaliers' primary focus for the next year, is going to be doing whatever possible to retain James. Aldridge is a poor offensive fit with him and would likely leave in a year and Murray isn't ready to contribute to a team with championship aspirations or a good enough prospect to be the key piece in a trade for a player of this caliber.

Spurs would need to turn Aldridge and Green into quality assets, then re-route those assets, along with Murray and probably a pick, to get in the game.

Even if it were possible, I doubt they have the balls to gut this team at this point or trade Mills (eligible December 15th) when Parker get's back to clear up the PG logjam.

Heat have the balls and of the 4, the best available assets.

Dude - BOS would not give up minimal assets for Paul George because he wouldn't commit. Why would teams give up assets for a player they know just forced his way out of CLE and would do the same if they traded for him? Kyrie has 4 teams he wants to go to.

Doesn't mean he will go there but it behooves all parties involved to make that happen.

Giving away assets for someone who won't commit to your team is typically bad business and BOS based on their history certainly won't do that.

[Seventyniner]

This thread has Jimmer=like potential.

Does a team paying Kawhi and Kyrie both the supermax have a potential to upset Dubs??? Only makes sense if they keep LMA and Irving sets him up better than even Parker did.

I think this is moot, by the time the Spurs are paying supermax to these two, the Warriors will be broken up.

[Seventyniner]

Has Patty actually signed his contract?

[cjw]

Dude - BOS would not give up minimal assets for Paul George because he wouldn't commit. Why would teams give up assets for a player they know just forced his way out of CLE and would do the same if they traded for him? Kyrie has 4 teams he wants to go to.

Doesn't mean he will go there but it behooves all parties involved to make that happen.

Giving away assets for someone who won't commit to your team is typically bad business and BOS based on their history certainly won't do that.

Because he has two years left vs. one before his player option.

He also has a 15% trade kicker. Why not collect some extra dough.

[DPG21920]

I wouldn't be surprised if this all started cause LeBron told Kyrie he's leaving next year, and he's telling him to get out too, even if it means saying that he's tired of playing with LeBron.

He proved in the finals a couple years ago he can be special. Saying he wants to be "the guy" but then list SA as a choice when we have "the guy" already doesn't quite equate. The Knicks/Heat certainly do.

I agree. Reading between the lines - Lebron is leaving and its going to be tough for him to do. Now, Lebron has more than enough reasons to leave and fans understanding. They let go of Griffin, Gilbert is kind of awful and they botched things with Kyrie.

This allows Kyrie to get out and Lebron to have all the excuses he needs if he wants to.

Also, there could be some truth to the Lebron thing too. The reason playing with Kawhi vs Lebron makes sense for those asking is because Lebron is the PG. He is the ball dominant player. SA is looking for a more ball dominant PG (CP, Kyrie) and Kyrie will actually get to be more of a PG here.

Plus, Lebron runs things and yields his power. Kawhi isnt like that and is fine letting Kyrie get credit.

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs can stay under the tax with this trade (which is possible with Simmons leaving and no LLE being used), they can get by with the 175%-plus-$100k rule. So Green and incentive would be enough. That's even more true if the Spurs trade Parker for a bad contract to add value. Kyrie makes a much as Kawhi; they don't need to go through hoops to match a deal that small.


They can't do that because CLE is over the tax I thought. Would be illegal for Cavs money out vs in.

[SPURt]

Not to be a pessimist but why does Cleveland care where Kyrie wants to go? Spurs fans better start hoping the CP3/Kyrie and Murray situation ends up like Jason Kidd and Tony Parker.

[Laughing Gravy]

Not to be a pessimist but why does Cleveland care where Kyrie wants to go? Spurs fans better start hoping the CP3/Kyrie and Murray situation ends up like Jason Kidd and Tony Parker.

Its not so much cleveland caring but the team trading for him caring about what he wants.

[DPG21920]

Because he has two years left vs. one before his player option.

He also has a 15% trade kicker. Why not collect some extra dough.

He has that in CLE and that's not keeping him from forcing his way out despite going to the finals every year.

[DPG21920]

Not to be a pessimist but why does Cleveland care where Kyrie wants to go? Spurs fans better start hoping the CP3/Kyrie and Murray situation ends up like Jason Kidd and Tony Parker.

CLE may not care where Kyrie goes, but other teams that know Kyrie will force his way out if traded there will probably be very cautious offering up a good package.

CLE has him under contract the same as other teams would trading for him and he's getting out.

[NASpurs]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20124505/kyrie-irving-seeking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers

"League sources told ESPN that both Butler and Karl-Anthony Towns (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136195/karl-anthony-towns) have been doing their part to recruit Irving on the idea of playing alongside them in Minnesota, and they've made it known to Wolves management that they want to add the Cavs star to the mix. Butler and Irving became tight in their time playing for USA Basketball together. Towns' father, Karl Towns Sr., and Irving's father, Drederick Irving, are connected through the basketball scene in northern New Jersey, where they both reside."


:lol while Spurs players recruit losers like Jean-Charles and Lauvergne, Laprovitolla

[ElNono]

went to get a Fataburger, what did I miss?

[Chinook]

They can't do that because CLE is over the tax I thought. Would be illegal for Cavs money out vs in.

The Cavs can shed as much salary as they want. There's no minimum for them to take back.

[DPG21920]

The Cavs can shed as much salary as they want. There's no minimum for them to take back.

Hmm, maybe the trade machine isn't working or updated?

[DPG21920]

The Cavs can shed as much salary as they want. There's no minimum for them to take back.

Also, never mind, I read yours as LMA & Danny going for Kyrie

[007nites]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20124505/kyrie-irving-seeking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers

:lol while Spurs players recruit losers like Jean-Charles and Lauvergne, Laprovitolla

:lol

[Nathan89]

Cavs: LMA, Bledsoe, pieces
Suns: Thompson
Spurs: Kyrie

[Chinook]

Hmm, maybe the trade machine isn't working or updated?

What was the trade? Green and Parker for Irving and Shump works, as does Green, Parker and Murray for Irving and Smith (though this may not work under the new CBA)

[look_at_g_shred]

Ya sounds like he's wolves bound imo. All they have to do is give up and Wiggins and a first. That's pick holds more value than what SA can offer

[TimDunkem]

:lol The Spurs assets are so shitty.

[SAGirl]

Crash and burn, the ride was fun.

888499554563219456

888500760979193858

yea... not only he can't object to any trade to wherever, but he also is not a one year rental like PG is. He has 2 seasons left in his contract and the team that trades for him, has to have a plan to improve the team around him even after sending out some assets. Him stating where he wants to play, may be information released by his camp to hope those teams he wants to play for, make aggressive moves for him.

[ElNono]

If we can't get Irving at least get Richard Jefferson back, IMO

[baseline bum]

went to get a Fataburger, what did I miss?

You have those in Mexico? Be careful, Magic used to own them. I'd hate to see you get AIDS (you're one of the good wetbacks).

[timtonymanu]

:lol The Spurs assets are so shitty.

What's funny is some on here acting like we have a chance at getting him. "Hey Cleveland, lets trade your second best player for a PG that may have some potential, an even softer PF than Love and an aging 3 & D guy who cant dribble"

[DPG21920]

What was the trade? Green and Parker for Irving and Shump works, as does Green, Parker and Murray for Irving and Smith (though this may not work under the new CBA)

Ya - I messed up. I had more money going to CLE (Danny + LMA for Kyrie). Thats what I meant by CLE being over the tax and not being able to take on that money

[ElNono]

You have those in Mexico? Be careful, Magic used to own them. I'd hate to see you get AIDS (you're one of the good wetbacks).

My hermano Robdiaz hooked me up, tbh...

[RD2191]

My hermano Robdiaz hooked me up, tbh...

:toast

[TheGreatYacht]

What do the Wolves have to offer? :lol

They ain't trading Wiggins and Towns, Teague and Butler can't be traded. No one wants Pekovic. Shabazz is a RFA. Dieng ain't enough.

Cavs have shown interest in Green, you idiots are underestimating LMA's worth (saw some idiot suggest we trade him for Jamychal Green yesterday LOL), and Murray is part of Lebron's crew.

It's like some of you retards already forgot Paul George and Butler were had with peanuts just 3 weeks ago.

[Hoops Czar]

What's funny is some on here acting like we have a chance at getting him. "Hey Cleveland, lets trade your second best player for a PG that may have some potential, an even softer PF than Love and an aging 3 & D guy who cant dribble"
That's why the league invented three way trades.

[ElNono]

What do the Wolves have to offer? :lol

They ain't trading Wiggins and Towns, Teague and Butler can't be traded. No one wants Pekovic. Shabazz is a RFA. Dieng ain't enough.

Cavs have shown interest in Green, you idiots are underestimating LMA's worth (saw some idiot suggest we trade him for Jamychal Green yesterday LOL), and Murray is part of Lebron's crew.

It's like some of you retards already forgot Paul George and Butler were had with peanuts just 3 weeks ago.

the biggest hurdle is racist fans like ducks, tbh, IMO... (:lol)

[FkLA]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20124505/kyrie-irving-seeking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers

"League sources told ESPN that both Butler and Karl-Anthony Towns (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136195/karl-anthony-towns) have been doing their part to recruit Irving on the idea of playing alongside them in Minnesota, and they've made it known to Wolves management that they want to add the Cavs star to the mix. Butler and Irving became tight in their time playing for USA Basketball together. Towns' father, Karl Towns Sr., and Irving's father, Drederick Irving, are connected through the basketball scene in northern New Jersey, where they both reside."


:lol while Spurs players recruit losers like Jean-Charles and Lauvergne, Laprovitolla

Imagine how Teague must feel. :lol

[cjw]

They can't do that because CLE is over the tax I thought. Would be illegal for Cavs money out vs in.

Cleveland is taking less money in the deal than sending out, so they're fine.

[024]

I'm pretty sure Pop is not going to allow a flat earther anywhere near the team.

[DPG21920]

Cleveland is taking less money in the deal than sending out, so they're fine.

Ya - I read things wrong or confused post. I had CLE getting Danny+LMA

[DocDoc]

never mind

[baseline bum]

Imagine how Teague must feel. :lol

$57 million richer than a couple of weeks ago.

[sananspursfan21]

All of the major media outlets are photoshopping him in a Spurs uni and no one else's. Is there smoke?

[MoSpur02]

Remember that Dan Gilbert isn't a very smart guy.

[DPG21920]

All of the major media outlets are photoshopping him in a Spurs uni and no one else's. Is there smoke?

Vegas has SA landing Kyrie as the longest odds FWIW.

[Chinook]

What do the Wolves have to offer? :lol

They ain't trading Wiggins and Towns, Teague and Butler can't be traded. No one wants Pekovic. Shabazz is a RFA. Dieng ain't enough.

Cavs have shown interest in Green, you idiots are underestimating LMA's worth (saw some idiot suggest we trade him for Jamychal Green yesterday LOL), and Murray is part of Lebron's crew.

It's like some of you retards already forgot Paul George and Butler were had with peanuts just 3 weeks ago.

My guess is they're trading Wiggins. He wasn't one of the guys recruiting Irving, they can still pay Shabazz, and Wiggins would be eligible for a trade even after his extension. Wiggins is not a great player, but getting him for six years is not a bad initial rebuilding block.

[coachmac87]

Imagine how Teague must feel. :lol

Teague can't get traded

[FkLA]

Vegas has SA landing Kyrie as the longest odds FWIW.

Post them brah.

[baseline bum]

https://image.ibb.co/eK4UN5/good_trade.png

[SAGirl]

Like Marks said, he doesn't have a no-trade and is under contract for multiple seasons, so they don't have to kowtow to him.

Why would Aldridge and Murray make Spurs a front runner? Cavaliers' primary focus for the next year, is going to be doing whatever possible to retain James. Aldridge is a poor offensive fit with him and would likely leave in a year and Murray isn't ready to contribute to a team with championship aspirations or a good enough prospect to be the key piece in a trade for a player of this caliber.

Spurs would need to turn Aldridge and Green into quality assets, then re-route those assets, along with Murray and probably a pick, to get in the game.

Even if it were possible, I doubt they have the balls to gut this team at this point or trade Mills (eligible December 15th) when Parker get's back to clear up the PG logjam.

Heat have the balls and of the 4, the best available assets.

you undervalue LMA and Danny in this trade. the two of them with Lebron is a tremendously good team, a lot better than last season defensively. They can then trade Love for some PG with expereince hopefully but Lebron handles the ball so much that getting someone out to just help at times could be good enough. Murray doesn't move the needle for them, but he is someone who can help their bench and has upside still. I am not saying this is the best package that Cavs can get, but it's also not the worst.

[FkLA]

Teague can't get traded

I know. Just saying that he was probably recruited by those same guys and sold on being a big piece as the starting PG. Yet as soon as a prettier girl comes along they want to toss him aside. Those 5 months till December would suck for him big time.

[DPG21920]

888533248313184256

[NASpurs]

https://image.ibb.co/eK4UN5/good_trade.png

Hopefully RC is awake, sober and taking notes.

[SPURt]

CLE may not care where Kyrie goes, but other teams that know Kyrie will force his way out if traded there will probably be very cautious offering up a good package.

CLE has him under contract the same as other teams would trading for him and he's getting out.
This true, Spurs are in the same position with LMA. I don't think LMA or the NBA knows what team would center their offense around him as a primary option. I'd love Kyrie on the Spurs as him and Kawhi would have a solid 7 years together. I just don't think RC is willing to do whatever it takes.

[TimDunkem]

https://image.ibb.co/eK4UN5/good_trade.pngPATFO wouldn't do that. Too much "continuity and culture :cry" would be lost. :lol

[MoSpur02]

Spurs will have new owners next season

[spurs10]

I wonder if there is any truth in what I heard on the radio that he said he'd like to come to the Spurs. Who knows he might really like tacos al pastor!

[coachmac87]

https://image.ibb.co/eK4UN5/good_trade.png

Let's not get carried away lol

[spurs10]

Let's not get carried away lol
Way too late for that! :lol

[FkLA]

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:lol

[SAGirl]

Kyrie isn't even good enough to get a team to the playoffs by himself. To put into comparison, here is his best season compared to those of Gay and Parker:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1=irvinky01&y1=2017&player_id2_hint=Rudy+Gay&player_id2_select=Rudy+Gay&player_id2=gayru01&y2=2015&player_id3_hint=Tony+Parker&player_id3_select=Tony+Parker&player_id3=parketo01&y3=2013

I am not saying that there aren't a lot of deals I would make for Irving, but considering paying him and Kawhi (and best-case DMC) more than $100 Million a season is scary. He is not worth everything.
Kyrie is a lot younger than those guys were at the time they had those seasons. He's still up and coming like Kiwi was at the same age. (24 in that chart)... I do believe both LMA and Danny were in play for him at some point, but were rejected. Have the Spurs added Dijon as a sweetener? (that is the word of the day apparently). It's possible SA has balked at Cavs demands and here we are. Maybe they proposed either LMA and Danny or LMA and Dijon but not all 3...

[TimDunkem]

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:lolInb4 Cutewizard comes in thinking this is real.

[Ron Swanson]

Inb4 Cutewizard comes in thinking this is real.

Waiting for several consecutive posts about it.

[NASpurs]

Inb4 Cutewizard comes in thinking this is real.

I'm still waiting for him to post the shitty Youtube highlights of Kyrie.

[marinoman]

If kyrie would've made this known a few weeks earlier maybe the cavs would've got Chris Paul for kyrie

[FkLA]

How does this hack get to talk sports for a living? SMDH.

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[SAGirl]

People need to decide if LMA opting in or opting out is supposed to be the worst thing in the world. I can't keep it straight what I'm supposed to be scared of. No, I'm not keen to trade Green, LMA and the future prospects for Irving. The team will likely not be better next year and they'll either have one more year of Irving (which they may have with LMA anyway), or they'll have more but be paying Irving a new max deal.
The Spurs are obviously situated to know LMA true feelings. If the disgruntled thing is just noise, then they will agree with you.

However, if LMA is really unhappy and the rumors about his frustrating verbal scuffle with Pop in his exit evaluation are true, the Spurs need to trade him. They already got Rudy Gay to start at the PF anyway and were poised to play a different style. They could acquire a real center through some other means or another trade (Tyson Chandler or someone else). The point is they can find a center somewhere else, who is going to be happy to play as a center and not be gone within a season or be cancerous or showing lack of heart out there bc he's unhappy.

I don't have any personal "sauces" so for me it's unknown but LMA was already in talks to be traded and he seemed to have given indication that he wants out. Here is his out. I doubt you can get a better player than Irving for him (and someone else as "sweetener")