Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[Ice009]

Yep. Not sure how the Spurs could get it done. I'd assume that it's gotta be a minimum of a 3 team deal, maybe even 4 team deal, or maybe Irving pressuring all other teams that he doesn't want to play for them.

[mudyez]

that makes sense. kawhi should approve of such a trade. he may prefer parker over irving.

No but maybe Murray...and what if Kawhi just wants to be the undisputed #1? He doesn't seem that way, but I rather not see him walking once his contract is up, just because we forced Kyrie uppon him like Lebron forced himself uppon Kyrie.

[TheRemix]

Whole thing just sounds like leverage.

[Ice009]

Whole thing just sounds like leverage.

Leverage for what?

[mudyez]

https://theringer.com/kyrie-irving-san-antonio-spurs-trade-scenarios-57bf19761668

[Spurs9]

So does Kyrie actually have a NTC?

[mudyez]

So does Kyrie actually have a NTC?

No. Thats the funny part.

[TheDoctor]

I actually want just one thing to happen right now:

RC calling Kawhi! Ask him, what he wants!

He may want Kyrie and we might still not get him, but show your franchise player, that he is your focus.

Not saying, he should become GM Kawhi, but include him! I don't want him to be pissed off, coz we give up Murray for Kyrie!

It's well documented that PATFO consult such decisions with their core players/pilars (Tim, Kawhi, Manu & Tony).

:tu

[look_at_g_shred]

https://theringer.com/kyrie-irving-san-antonio-spurs-trade-scenarios-57bf19761668
Hilarious stuff. I may be in the dark on this opinion but I love shea's work.

[Kuestmaster]

According to Woj, D. Rose is in Cleveland discussing a deal. If that settles, do you think it's more likely Irving gets traded? Cleveland would have a serviceable PG to start alongside James, and maybe a package of Aldridge and Green would appeal them to move Irving.

Rose, Green, LeBron, Love, Aldridge is something to consider if I'm Cleveland/LeBron.

[look_at_g_shred]

According to Woj, D. Rose is in Cleveland discussing a deal. If that settles, do you think it's more likely Irving gets traded? Cleveland would have a serviceable PG to start alongside James, and maybe a package of Aldridge and Green would appeal them to move Irving.

Rose, Green, LeBron, Love, Aldridge is something to consider if I'm Cleveland/LeBron.
What the Spurs have going for them that no one else does is that Green/Murray are LBJ's homies.

[Big Empty]

According to Woj, D. Rose is in Cleveland discussing a deal. If that settles, do you think it's more likely Irving gets traded? Cleveland would have a serviceable PG to start alongside James, and maybe a package of Aldridge and Green would appeal them to move Irving.

Rose, Green, LeBron, Love, Aldridge is something to consider if I'm Cleveland/LeBron.
I think Cleveland wants to win right now since LeBron has 2-3 solid years left in him. Aldridge could very well be in play if Cleveland thinks LeBron might actually stay. I think the Knicks have a better shot trading Melo for Irving though. Its hard to wrap your head around. I think LeBron is bolting. It makes sense for Cleveland to try to get some young talent and picks in return.

[Spurs9]

I think Cleveland wants to win right now since LeBron has 2-3 solid years left in him. Aldridge could very well be in play if Cleveland thinks LeBron might actually stay. I think the Knicks have a better shot trading Melo for Irving though. Its hard to wrap your head around. I think LeBron is bolting. It makes sense for Cleveland to try to get some young talent and picks in return.

I don't think Melo actually wants to go there though, he knows he probably won't stay and Melo rather go to Houston. Plus he has to approve any trade. He didn't want to get traded to Cavs even when Irving was going to be there. A few weeks ago I think he said either Cavs or Houston but has since changed to only wanting Houston iirc.

[SPURt]

Are you suggesting she's a dude. :lol
Yes, lol, don't you find it odd timvp became less active then she showed up?

[sasaint]

I think we are destined to get Kyrie. How cosmic would it be for LMA to join HWNSNBM on the Cavs?

[Ice009]

I think we are destined to get Kyrie. How cosmic would it be for LMA to join HWNSNBM on the Cavs?

lol, that would be brilliant.

[BD24]

SAGirl nowhere to be found.
She claims she has me on ignore, because I'm an ass hole lol

[BillMc]

I think we are destined to get Kyrie. How cosmic would it be for LMA to join HWNSNBM on the Cavs?
:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

I find it hilarious that there are some posters who don't want Irving. Hilarious just fucking lol hilarious

[Hoops Czar]

I find it hilarious that there are some posters who don't want Irving. Hilarious just fucking lol hilarious
But they wanted to keep "two week wonder" Simmons. :lol

[Poolboy5623]

sooo..."its happening?"

[coachmac87]

I find it hilarious that there are some posters who don't want Irving. Hilarious just fucking lol hilarious

Yeah it's pretty wild tbh. ST bitches and moans about PATFO off-season and how the league is passing them by and how NOBODY wants to play for the Spurs etc

Then a Top 5 talent in position of need requested a trade to the Spurs...yet people still cry and nit pick shit to death...

SpursTalk isn't really a place of basketball discussion..more like a huge bitch fest with posters who have "EGO's" and ZERO friends in real life

[kaji157]

We all know our Spurs and our FO and we all know there is zero to a very slim chance of this happening.

That said, the media is desperate for this not to happen.

They are treating the issue totally disregarding San Antonio´s chances, but more so, like trying to influence the outcome for Irving not to come here.

[SpursforSix]

sooo..."its happening?"

Probably. San Antonio was his top choice. So the GMs will get it worked out for him.

[Emperor]

Yeah it's pretty wild tbh. ST bitches and moans about PATFO off-season and how the league is passing them by and how NOBODY wants to play for the Spurs etc

Then a Top 5 talent in position of need requested a trade to the Spurs...yet people still cry and nit pick shit to death...

SpursTalk isn't really a place of basketball discussion..more like a huge bitch fest with posters who have "EGO's" and ZERO friends in real life

TruthNuke.

[kaji157]

Could this be the reason the Spurs pulled Murray of the SL?

[Ice009]

Could this be the reason the Spurs pulled Murray of the SL?

I hope so, because I still haven't heard a reason about it.

[lebomb]

Could this be the reason the Spurs pulled Murray of the SL?


No

[TheGreatYacht]

Could this be the reason the Spurs pulled Murray of the SL?
Yes

[look_at_g_shred]

Could this be the reason the Spurs pulled Murray of the SL?
Yes

[hater]

Probably. San Antonio was his top choice. So the GMs will get it worked out for him.

:lmao

[Ice009]

No

So why did they pull him? Cause it sure as fuck doesn't make any other sense.

[spurs10]

So why did they pull him? Cause it sure as fuck doesn't make any other sense. Eventually I heard he had some injury, but he didn't appear to be hobbled to me.

[kaji157]

Well, he was also seen with LeBron a few days after being pulled out.
Remember?
https://scontent-scl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20045502_1474960175944754_6656768376102473522_o.jp g?oh=da8ada5eb230ad2cee8fcc2d292f8851&oe=59F339BB

[Keepin' it real]

sooo..."its happening?"

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/242/631/382.gif

[Ice009]

Eventually I heard he had some injury, but he didn't appear to be hobbled to me.

Ok, I thought that at first, but I never read or heard that. I thought if he was injured it would have been in the Spurs best interest to announce that so he can save face and also to save some of his trade value.

[lebomb]

So why did they pull him? Cause it sure as fuck doesn't make any other sense.

Injury..........doesnt have to look crazy severe. Its just the summer league and a strain or twisted ankle got him pulled.

[spurs10]

Injury..........doesnt have to look crazy severe. Its just the summer league and a strain or twisted ankle got him pulled. Agreed it doesn't have look severe for it to be in the team's best interest to rest him. I heard a minor injury as well....................and to get to know his new teammate, The King, a little better before he and Kyrie switched teams!! :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Yeah it's pretty wild tbh. ST bitches and moans about PATFO off-season and how the league is passing them by and how NOBODY wants to play for the Spurs etc

Then a Top 5 talent in position of need requested a trade to the Spurs...yet people still cry and nit pick shit to death...

SpursTalk isn't really a place of basketball discussion..more like a huge bitch fest with posters who have "EGO's" and ZERO friends in real life

[Leetonidas]

Fact that we keep hearing about trade rumors with Kyrie but nothing really about what SA is doing is probably a good sign....spurs are usually quiet about shit until it happens

[lebomb]

Agreed it doesn't have look severe for it to be in the team's best interest to rest him. I heard a minor injury as well....................and to get to know his new teammate, The King, a little better before he and Kyrie switched teams!! :lol


We can only dream. :eyebrows

[lebomb]

Fact that we keep hearing about trade rumors with Kyrie but nothing really about what SA is doing is probably a good sign....spurs are usually quiet about shit until it happens


............or things just stay quiet and they dont do a damned thing. :claw

[Leetonidas]

Possibly. But being that Irving stated SA is his preferred landing spot I have zero doubt RC has made a call to them. Just because Brian windhorst isn't reporting on a pontential deal doesn't mean it isnt being talked about tbh

[Birn]

Yeah it's pretty wild tbh. ST bitches and moans about PATFO off-season and how the league is passing them by and how NOBODY wants to play for the Spurs etc

Then a Top 5 talent in position of need requested a trade to the Spurs...yet people still cry and nit pick shit to death...

SpursTalk isn't really a place of basketball discussion..more like a huge bitch fest with posters who have "EGO's" and ZERO friends in real life

Amen! Great post .

[marinoman]

I just saw breaking news on espn, got excited it could be kyrie getting traded but it was Clayton kershaw breaking his back or some shit....disappointed

[DAF86]

Any truth on the 3way trade with Suns helping out? We get Irving and Shumpert. Cavs get Bledsoe, Murray and Green. Suns get Aldridge. I would take Shumpert anytime. I think he can replace Green's defense and more upside offensively. We get something off Aldridge who's walking out next year anyway. Any chance we can sign DLee back as replacement? Does Spur have enough to sign him or does he even want to play for Spurs back? I think Spurs get better with this line up, plus Irving/Gay can help recruit big FA in the future, may Cousins. Damn that would be it. Spurs will run over Dubs or any banana boat lineup.

Or we could just trade Bledsoe for Aldridge straight up, tbh.

[DAF86]

Suns not helping unless they can unload Chandler, TBH.

Something like this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine

Bledsoe, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, Chandler.

Mills, Manu, Anderson, Gay, Gasol.

[BatManu20]

I find it hilarious that there are some posters who don't want Irving. Hilarious just fucking lol hilarious

Idiots tbh.

[BatManu20]

Well, he was also seen with LeBron a few days after being pulled out.
Remember?
https://scontent-scl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20045502_1474960175944754_6656768376102473522_o.jp g?oh=da8ada5eb230ad2cee8fcc2d292f8851&oe=59F339BB

He and Lebron are "family." Murray is signed with Lebron's agent/agency, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports Group.

[BatManu20]

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[look_at_g_shred]

889551068409057280
Meaning another star?

[BatManu20]

Lowe reports from the Cavaliers' perspective: "There is little chance of salvaging their relationship with him," but the team is confident they can bring back a 'king's ransom' in a potential trade.

[Laughing Gravy]

"Almost inevitable" wow, way to stick your neck out on that one ZL lol

[BatManu20]

Meaning another star?

I'd assume, although idk who they're going to get that from. Minnesota would have the most to offer, but they make the least sense of the team's mentioned. It would almost certainly need to be a 3-team deal where the Cavs receive assets from two separate teams.

[TheGreatYacht]

If I'm the Cavs I go with a potential rotation of:

Aldridge/Thompson
Love/Frye
James/Korver
Green/Smith
Rose/Murray

Get a future first round pick as well and call it a day.

[BatManu20]

If I'm the Cavs I go with a potential rotation of:

Aldridge/Thompson
Love/Frye
James/Korver
Green/Smith
Rose/Murray

Get a future first round pick as well and call it a day.

Not bad. Have to think another team would counter by offering more though.

[cd98]

Yes, this is all a wasted exercise. Spurs don't have the assets that Cavs want as is clear by the fact that Kyrie said he wanted to go to the Spurs, and Lowe, in projecting several teams that could meet the criteria that Cavs are looking for didn't even mention the Spurs once. If Kyrie ever came to the Spurs, it would have to be as a free agent. Just not likely he'll ever wear a Spurs jersey, especially with Pop retiring in the next few years.

[said7]

If I'm the Cavs I go with a potential rotation of:

Aldridge/Thompson
Love/Frye
James/Korver
Green/Smith
Rose/Murray

and call it a day.

That would be a pretty sick team tbh.

[rjv]

the lowe article was lazy. he mentions the spurs in one sentence which simply states that a spurs deal ("path") would be "murky", whatever the hell he means by that. also, he suggests a trade is inevitable, posits that the cavs will reap great benefits and then proceeds to shoot down all the possible scenarios, offering no support for his conclusion in the process.

[cd98]

If I'm the Cavs I go with a potential rotation of:

Aldridge/Thompson
Love/Frye
James/Korver
Green/Smith
Rose/Murray

Get a future first round pick as well and call it a day.

Cavs going to pay for Love and LMA? Doubt it.

[$pursDynasty]

Not bad. Have to think another team would counter by offering more though.
maybe not if Kyrie shows his butt enough so that teams other than the ones on his list realize that he isn't resigning then they would be more hesitant to give up too much on a disgruntled rental. Kyrie really poisoned the well by saying he couldn't didn't want to play with LBJ so what they actually think they can get got hurt right there.

[BatManu20]

maybe not if Kyrie shows his butt enough so that teams other than the ones on his list realize that he isn't resigning then they would be more hesitant to give up too much on a disgruntled rental. Kyrie really poisoned the well by saying he couldn't didn't want to play with LBJ so what they actually think they can get got hurt right there.

Most teams won't care. They'll give up what it takes to bring in a talent like Kyrie, esp a team with a disgruntled fan base like the Knicks.

[Jdspur20]

I find it hilarious that there are some posters who don't want Irving. Hilarious just fucking lol hilarious

Yep.

[coachmac87]

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I also think Cavs prefer to trade him to the West...why trade him to the East like Miami or NY and possibly spark something in your conference? It's kinda what INDY did with George..

[dabom]

the lowe article was lazy. he mentions the spurs in one sentence which simply states that a spurs deal ("path") would be "murky", whatever the hell he means by that. also, he suggests a trade is inevitable, posits that the cavs will reap great benefits and then proceeds to shoot down all the possible scenarios, offering no support for his conclusion in the process.

Remember when you posted a fake woj twitte? :lol

[marinoman]

The Lowe article is absolutely nothing, the fuck was that.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If I'm the Cavs I go with a potential rotation of:

Aldridge/Thompson
Love/Frye
James/Korver
Green/Smith
Rose/Murray

Get a future first round pick as well and call it a day.

Hard to see them paying for Love, Thompson, Aldridge, and Frye. That's 45 million in payroll, and every one they keep is lux tax dollars too.

[sananspursfan21]

Lowe reports from the Cavaliers' perspective: "There is little chance of salvaging their relationship with him," but the team is confident they can bring back a 'king's ransom' in a potential trade.


As much as we rag on Aldridge, him, Green, Dijon and a first rounder is a king's ransom.

[cd021]

Cavs going to pay for Love and LMA? Doubt it.

That luxury would be insane. Nate Duncan mentioned that for minimum contract (~2 million) it would cost around $ 8 million overall. Adding Green, LMA and Murray would be $32.7 million minus Kyrie would be still add $14 million dollars in salary. Moving Frye in the deal would cut that to about $6.5 million but would still cost them a shit ton in the tax.

[rjv]

Remember when you posted a fake woj twitte? :lol plurium interrogationum

[Jdspur20]

As much as we rag on Aldridge, him, Green, Dijon and a first rounder is a king's ransom.

Agreed. And who knows LMA probably will play better in the east

[Joseph Kony]

Spurs were said to be previously discussing a trade around LMA/Green with Cleveland during the draft, so obviously Cleveland has some interest in them.

[cd021]

As much as we rag on Aldridge, him, Green, Dijon and a first rounder is a king's ransom.

Bledsoe, Green, Murray, a 2018 1st would be better for them in a three team deal with the Suns and much cheaper. Significantly improve on their defense and add trade Murray and a 1st which could be used as trade assets to try and go for it at the deadline.

[coachmac87]

STOP PREDICTING ALDRIDGE TO THE CAVS!!!!!

IT WONT HAPPEN!!! THEY HAVE LOVE AND THOMPSON!!!

[Spurs9]

I also think Cavs prefer to trade him to the West...why trade him to the East like Miami or NY and possibly spark something in your conference? It's kinda what INDY did with George..
Send him to a team in the west who could challange the warriors and hopefully break them up. Let all the teams in the west battle each other and let the Cavs coast to the finals again. And why is everyone mentioning the suns in these 3 team trade ideas?

[SpursforSix]

Aldridge to the Cavs makes the most sense for both teams.

[illusioNtEk]

Giving up LMA and Green would be a huge defensive loss for us tbh

[BatManu20]

The Nuggets and Pistons are being mentioned suddenly online. Nuggets have assets, Pistons have Dummond but not sure the Cavs want him with a similar player in Thompson already.

[Robz4000]

Wouldn't trade LMA, Green, Murray, and a first for Kyrie tbh. Maybe two of those but not all four.

[BatManu20]

Giving up LMA and Green would be a huge defensive loss for us tbh

Yep. Would hate to lose both.

[BatManu20]

Wouldn't trade LMA, Green, Murray, and a first for Kyrie tbh. Maybe two of those but not all four.

Agreed, but it would likely take us losing at least 3 of the above to make anything happen. Murray would certainly be gone.

[kxs783kms]

The one thing that Kyrie can say, is that he won't resign with any team, other than the ones that he originally mentioned. This will force CLE to focus on those teams only. I don't believe any team will give up valuable assets just to get Kyrie for two years imo. If he doesn't give a promise to be there for the long haul, I believe a lot of teams will back off trying to pursue him.

[coachmac87]

Cavs-Bledsoe, Green, Murray+ Spurs 1st

Suns-LMA, Frye

Spurs- Irving, Chandler


That's the best possible/realistic deal including Spurs I've seen

[look_at_g_shred]

The one thing that Kyrie can say, is that he won't resign with any team, other than the ones that he originally mentioned. This will force CLE to focus on those teams only. I don't believe any team will give up valuable assets just to get Kyrie for two years imo. If he doesn't give a promise to be there for the long haul, I believe a lot of teams will back off trying to pursue him.

As much as I want to believe this to be true, there are a lot of dumb GM's who would risk damaging a franchise's future to sell tickets for at least two seasons: DET/PHX/DEN All whom have better assets than SAS.

[Robz4000]

Agreed, but it would likely take us losing at least 3 of the above to make anything happen. Murray would certainly be gone.

Could trade White and Murray alongside one of LMA/Green. Trading both of those two leaves several gaping holes on the roster that would take years to fix unless Cousins is brought on next year after all.

[BatManu20]

If they really want him, they will have him. They have by far the most assets. I think the Cavs won't care that it's a division rival if they bring back a huge haul. If they have Lebron, they're still the better team. And if Lebron leaves next summer, it won't matter anyway.


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[Dverde]

When in doubt look for MJ and the Bobcats.

[cd98]

If they really want him, they will have him. They have by far the most assets. I think the Cavs won't care that it's a division rival if they bring back a huge haul. If they have Lebron, they're still the better team. And if Lebron leaves next summer, it won't matter anyway.


889561901004234752

Yes, but for some reason, I think LeBron would be pissed if Cavs strengthened the one team that could beat them next year. Plus they'd have to trade Isaiah. Not sure they would.

[RD2191]

Wouldn't trade LMA, Green, Murray, and a first for Kyrie tbh. Maybe two of those but not all four.

Now that I think about it that does seem like too much.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If they really want him, they will have him. They have by far the most assets. I think the Cavs won't care that it's a division rival if they bring back a huge haul. If they have Lebron, they're still the better team. And if Lebron leaves next summer, it won't matter anyway.


889561901004234752

Zero chance Cleveland does a trade like this. They might as well trade 'Bron now if they do. He's running that franchise anyway, and if they have any hope of keeping him next year, it ain't going to be trading with their primary rival in the east.

[Keepin' it real]

Lowe reports from the Cavaliers' perspective: "There is little chance of salvaging their relationship with him," but the team is confident they can bring back a 'king's ransom' in a potential trade.


So Kyrie is the Cavs version of JSimmons I guess.

[cd98]

We have to be careful. Kyrie is a great scorer (though he takes crazy shots), but his defense is horrid. He made Murray look like an all-star. So a trade for him helps on one side, but hurts on the other as we would have to give up several good defenders to get him. Not sure giving up Green and LMA makes sense as it will really hurt on the defensive side of the ball and the Spurs claim to fame the last two years has been their defense.

[tonight...you]

Cavs-Bledsoe, Green, Murray+ Spurs 1st

Suns-LMA, Frye

Spurs- Irving, Chandler


That's the best possible/realistic deal including Spurs I've seen
And that would be a big Yuck from me. I hate to see that much defense leave the team along with a prospect and a pick.

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

Wouldn't trade LMA, Green, Murray, and a first for Kyrie tbh. Maybe two of those but not all four.


Now that I think about it that does seem like too much.

No it isn't. Aldridge is garbage and will be gone for nothing after this season if we don't trade him, Murray is a 29th pick who don't even know if will amount to anything someday, same thing with the late first round pick.

Green is the piece that I would have more problem parting with, but he's a role player that can't do anything but defend and shoot threes at a slightly above average level, and he's already on the decline. He's only going to get worse from here and his last season was already nothing to write home about, tbh.

[hater]

Im sure Leroids is working hard for Kylie not to go to the Spurs

Since Lebron owns the team. Not gona happen

[cd021]

Zero chance Cleveland does a trade like this. They might as well trade 'Bron now if they do. He's running that franchise anyway, and if they have any hope of keeping him next year, it ain't going to be trading with their primary rival in the east.

Celtics are hording 1st rounders like they are going to be outlawed soon.

Trade Idea:

Jalen Brown
Jae Crowder
Marcus Smart
2018 Celtics 1st round pick
2019 Memphis pick (top 6 protected, top 8 in 2020)

For

Kyrie Irving

would assume that would be the offer, not a bad haul for the Cavs. They should make a more independent of Lebron, do what's best for their franchise.

PG-Thomas
SG-Irving
SF-Hayward
PF-Horford
C-Baynes


PG-Rose-Smart-Calderon
SG-Smith-Korver
SF-Lebron-Crowder-Brown
PF-Love-Jeff Green
C-Thompson-Frye

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

We have to be careful. Kyrie is a great scorer (though he takes crazy shots), but his defense is horrid. He made Murray look like an all-star. So a trade for him helps on one side, but hurts on the other as we would have to give up several good defenders to get him. Not sure giving up Green and LMA makes sense as it will really hurt on the defensive side of the ball and the Spurs claim to fame the last two years has been their defense.

No one on that team plays D, Lue doesn't hold them accountable. I'm guessing it would be different under Pop for Kyrie.

And it would help elsewhere, as teams wouldn't be able to hide someone on Parker/Murray/Mills at their defensive end.

[baseline bum]

No it isn't. Aldridge is garbage and will be gone for nothing after this season if we don't trade him, Murray is a 29th pick who don't even know if will amount to anything someday, same thing with the late first round pick.

Green is the piece that I would have more problem parting with, but he's a role player that can't do anything but defend and shoot threes at a slightly above average level, and he's already on the decline. He's only going to get worse from here and his last season was already nothing to write home about, tbh.

The problem with moving Green is you'd probably have to take Shumpert back. I'd still do it to land Irving, and Shumpert could be a valuable expiring in 2018-19, but I'd much rather keep Green.

[cd98]

Celtics are hording 1st rounders like they are going to be outlawed soon.

Jalen Brown
Jae Crowder
Marcus Smart
2018 Celtics 1st round pick
2019 Memphis pick (top 6 protected, top 8 in 2020)

would assume that would be the offer, not a bad haul for the Cavs. They should make a more independent of Lebron, do what's best for their franchise.

PG-Thomas
SG-Irving
SF-Hayward
PF-Horford
C-Baynes

D. Murray could average 30 against that backcourt. If they get Kyrie, they'd have to give up Thomas. But I don't see them trading w/ Celtics.

[baseline bum]

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Man that's gotta piss Isaiah off :lol

[baseline bum]

Celtics are hording 1st rounders like they are going to be outlawed soon.

Jalen Brown
Jae Crowder
Marcus Smart
2018 Celtics 1st round pick
2019 Memphis pick (top 6 protected, top 8 in 2020)

would assume that would be the offer, not a bad haul for the Cavs. They should make a more independent of Lebron, do what's best for their franchise.

PG-Thomas
SG-Irving
SF-Hayward
PF-Horford
C-Baynes

If I'm Cleveland I just tell Irving we're not trading you and that's that. He still has two more years on his contract and none of the offers I'm seeing look good for them.

[kaji157]

It´s against everyone interest that Irving doesn´t come here.

It would be a huge fuck you for everyone if the Spurs ended up adding Irving + Gay.

[rastaspur]

If LMA goes then we are down to two bigs again. So the spurs need to trade multiple guys to free up a roster spot or two for some bigs or get a big back in return.

The roster imbalance could be scary if we swap a big for guards without freeing up a spot for another big man.

[Texas_Ranger]

I am not sure that Cleveland would want to replace a shitty defender like Irving with the worst defender in the league Isaiah Thomas.

[Jdspur20]

Zero chance Cleveland does a trade like this. They might as well trade 'Bron now if they do. He's running that franchise anyway, and if they have any hope of keeping him next year, it ain't going to be trading with their primary rival in the east.

Yep, no way they trade him to Boston.

[Robz4000]

No it isn't. Aldridge is garbage and will be gone for nothing after this season if we don't trade him, Murray is a 29th pick who don't even know if will amount to anything someday, same thing with the late first round pick.

Green is the piece that I would have more problem parting with, but he's a role player that can't do anything but defend and shoot threes at a slightly above average level, and he's already on the decline. He's only going to get worse from here and his last season was already nothing to write home about, tbh.

If LMA is gonna get in shape for a contract year (which its looking like thankfully) you hold on to him until he ups his trade value, them you dump him to the highest bidder. If you dump him and Verde for Irving the defense becomes bottom-tier and you place even more burden on Kawhi (and further push him towards leaving).

[BatManu20]

Man that's gotta piss Isaiah off :lol

Yep. And nobody holds a grudge like IT.

[NASpurs]

Lebron and the Cavs wouldn't trade with the Celtics, basically their main rival. Probably the same thing with the Heat.

[DAF86]

If LMA is gonna get in shape for a contract year (which its looking like thankfully) you hold on to him until he ups his trade value, them you dump him to the highest bidder. If you dump him and Verde for Irving the defense becomes bottom-tier and you place even more burden on Kawhi (and further push him towards leaving).

You won't get a much better bid than Kyrie fucking Irving, tbh.

[Robz4000]

You won't get a much better bid than Kyrie fucking Irving, tbh.

You will if it also costs Green, Murray, and other assets of which the Spurs severely lack.

[DAF86]

You will if it also costs Green, Murray, and other assets of which the Spurs severely lack.

No matter how good Aldridge starts playing, getting Irving would mean trading Green and Murray. Aldridge doesn't fill any need for the Cavs. He just has to be on the deal to make the trade work in terms of salaries.

Let's say hell freezes and Aldridge comes to the season in shape and starts killing it. What potential trade could be done that would be better than getting Irving?

[Robz4000]

No matter how good Aldridge starts playing, getting Irving would mean trading Green and Murray. Aldridge doesn't fill any need for the Cavs. He just has to be on the deal to make the trade work in terms of salaries.

Let's say hell freezes and Aldridge comes to the season in shape and starts killing it. What potential trade could be done that would be better than getting Irving?

If it costs Green and Murray, then you keep LMA and try to sell him on forming a Big 3 with Kawhi/Irving. If it works out, great; if not, then you see what develops as the season progresses and if nothing presents itself just go into the playoffs and see what you can do. You still prolly end up with another WCF appearance and hopefully challenge the Dubs enough to convince LMA to stick around or bring in another star like Cousins to take his place (if Pop doesn't get in the way of that). Trading LMA/Green/Murray leaves the Spurs with only Kawhi and Kyrie in a stacked conference without any real upside outside maybe Bertans.

[coachmac87]

No matter how good Aldridge starts playing, getting Irving would mean trading Green and Murray. Aldridge doesn't fill any need for the Cavs. He just has to be on the deal to make the trade work in terms of salaries.

Let's say hell freezes and Aldridge comes to the season in shape and starts killing it. What potential trade could be done that would be better than getting Irving?


Aldridge by himself isn't that appealing not only due to his play BUT contract situation..

Let's use PHX for example... they won't just get involved in 3 way trade just to help out Spurs or Cavs..especially if they gotta take on LMA or give up Bledsoe straight up..you can maybe be entice them more by giving them a pick..but IMO you get PHX realllllly interested if you can take on the Chandler contract...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Lebron and the Cavs wouldn't trade with the Celtics, basically their main rival. Probably the same thing with the Heat.


I think you can cross Miami off the list. Given the history with the decision / poaching LeBron, the Cavs won't deal with Miami unless they have no one else to work with. They'd probably trade Kyrie to the Warriors before sending him to South Beach.

[DAF86]

If it costs Green and Murray, then you keep LMA and try to sell him on forming a Big 3 with Kawhi/Irving. If it works out, great; if not, then you see what develops as the season progresses and if nothing presents itself just go into the playoffs and see what you can do. You still prolly end up with another WCF appearance and hopefully challenge the Dubs enough to convince LMA to stick around or bring in another star like Cousins to take his place (if Pop doesn't get in the way of that). Trading LMA/Green/Murray leaves the Spurs with only Kawhi and Kyrie in a stacked conference without any real upside outside maybe Bertans.

The thing is that moving just Green and Murray doesn't work, salary wise, to make the trade work. If you get Irving, you have no choice but to move LA.

[sasaint]

Aldridge by himself isn't that appealing not only due to his play BUT contract situation..

Let's use PHX for example... they won't just get involved in 3 way trade just to help out Spurs or Cavs..especially if they gotta take on LMA or give up Bledsoe straight up..you can maybe be entice them more by giving them a pick..but IMO you get PHX realllllly interested if you can take on the Chandler contract...

Yes, taking on Chandler might get PHX interested. Plus, the Spurs would definitely need a big to replace LMA - even though Chandler would not be among my top 25 choices.

IMHO, the best 3rd party facilitators would be Atlanta and Brooklyn. Former Spurs might be more willing to help than others.

[coachmac87]

Yes, taking on Chandler might get PHX interested. Plus, the Spurs would definitely need a big to replace LMA - even though Chandler would not be among my top 25 choices.

IMHO, the best 3rd party facilitators would be Atlanta and Brooklyn. Former Spurs might be more willing to help than others.


What trades are you thinking of regarding Brooklyn or Atlanta?

[cd021]

D. Murray could average 30 against that backcourt. If they get Kyrie, they'd have to give up Thomas. But I don't see them trading w/ Celtics.

Don't have to necessarily. Irving's contract is dirt cheap $18.8, they could afford to keep that core together next season.


Also Isiah Thomas is apparently extremely popular in Boston, not Hayward popular:lol but popular none the less.

[SpursBig3s]

Cavs-Bledsoe, Green, Murray+ Spurs 1st

Suns-LMA, Frye

Spurs- Irving, Chandler


That's the best possible/realistic deal including Spurs I've seen


Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?

[SAGirl]

Ok, I thought that at first, but I never read or heard that. I thought if he was injured it would have been in the Spurs best interest to announce that so he can save face and also to save some of his trade value.

He wasn't injured. When Davis and White both got minor hits/contact bruises they were pulled and still came back and played after one game of rest. Murray wasn't injured. He was in minutes restrictions from the very beginning and sat down mysteriously even since the Utah summer league. Moreover, Murray expressed a bit of frustration bc he wanted to play. It was something else... from the very beginning I thought he was involved in trade talks.

[cd021]

I am not sure that Cleveland would want to replace a shitty defender like Irving with the worst defender in the league Isaiah Thomas.

There was a stat earlier in the season that Irving was the worst P&R defender among PG's in the league. Considering how many P&Rs a starting PG has to defend and the fact that teams are going at him makes it even harder to hide him

[Joseph Kony]

Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?
Kyle Anderson? :lol

[coachmac87]

Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?

That's the question...

I could see Paul being that guy and Manu, Forbes, White can fill in off the bench..

I could also see Spurs moving Kawhi at the 2 and have Gay play the 3 and then you fill in the PF with maybe Anderson, Bertans, Joff..

Or you can maybe get a veteran for the min.

[BatManu20]

Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?

If I had to guess, in that situation, we'd go hard after Aaron Afflalo on a cheap deal.

[tmtcsc]

D. Murray could average 30 against that backcourt. If they get Kyrie, they'd have to give up Thomas. But I don't see them trading w/ Celtics.

Lol, D. Murray couldn't average 10 points against Summer league competition. He's fucking trash and the sooner Spurs fans realize that, they'll be much happier when he's gone.

[SpursforSix]

:pop: On the positive side guys...we just officially signed Pau.

[cd98]

Lol, D. Murray couldn't average 10 points against Summer league competition. He's fucking trash and the sooner Spurs fans realize that, they'll be much happier when he's gone.

Those D Leaguers are better defenders than Thomas/Kyrie. Can't see those two ever sharing the court.

[tmtcsc]

The thing is that moving just Green and Murray doesn't work, salary wise, to make the trade work. If you get Irving, you have no choice but to move LA.

It would be great to move TP's contract through all of this. That's 16 Million going to waste on Spurs roster.

[Mr. Body]

It would be great to move TP's contract through all of this. That's 16 Million going to waste on Spurs roster.

Na ga happen

[Big Empty]

maybe we can trade Pau for Kyrie? the contracts are the same length and amount! LOL SMGDFH

[8FOR!3]

Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?

Does it really matter?

[noles1983]

It would be great to move TP's contract through all of this. That's 16 Million going to waste on Spurs roster.

We added another 16 million waste, for 3 years nonetheless

[Nathan89]

Concerned with TPs contract while the FO signs Pau to an absolutely atrocious contract.:lol

[SAGirl]

If I'm Cleveland I just tell Irving we're not trading you and that's that. He still has two more years on his contract and none of the offers I'm seeing look good for them.
It's going to be difficult bc if the relationship is broken, I don't see a way Lebron wants to play with him now. It's been rumored it was Lebron who leaked out Kyries' request and it wouldn't surprise the reason was to push pressure to move that along and get offers from other teams not in the know.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Who becomes our starting 2 in that scenario?

Manu. or Irving

[sananspursfan21]

Bledsoe, Green, Murray, a 2018 1st would be better for them in a three team deal with the Suns and much cheaper. Significantly improve on their defense and add trade Murray and a 1st which could be used as trade assets to try and go for it at the deadline.

Thats true, but does Phoenix do it?

[spurs10]

Manu. or Irving Or Patty and Forbes plays PG with the bench and Paul plays the 2.

[cjw]

Concerned with TPs contract while the FO signs Pau to an absolutely atrocious contract.:lol

I know. TP's contract doesn't mean anything at this point. Expiring deals after FA have no impact other than in hard capping you.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

D rose just signed with the cavs.

[Mnky]

Cavs are looking for a kings ransom. Only problem is their rival is the only team with those assets.

They picked the wrong summer to upset their franchise player. The market is so dry right now. All the signed players can't be traded to boot. It'll be interesting to see who gets called on their bluff first.

[Nathan89]

Cavs are looking for a kings ransom. Only problem is their rival is the only team with those assets.

They picked the wrong summer to upset their franchise player. The market is so dry right now. All the signed players can't be traded to boot. It'll be interesting to see who gets called on their bluff first.

GSW isn't the only team that can make a phenomenal offer for a single player.

[Spurs9]

Cavs are looking for a kings ransom. Only problem is their rival is the only team with those assets.

They picked the wrong summer to upset their franchise player. The market is so dry right now. All the signed players can't be traded to boot. It'll be interesting to see who gets called on their bluff first.
Kyrie probably won't be traded in the east. Would you trade Klay for Kyrie straight up?

[tonight...you]

Kyrie probably won't be traded in the east. Would you trade Klay for Kyrie straight up?
If I was the Warriors, no. Klay is more useful than Kyrie for that team.
But that's not sayin that Klay is a better player, just more useful for his team than Kyrie would be.

[SAGirl]

Aldridge by himself isn't that appealing not only due to his play BUT contract situation..

Let's use PHX for example... they won't just get involved in 3 way trade just to help out Spurs or Cavs..especially if they gotta take on LMA or give up Bledsoe straight up..you can maybe be entice them more by giving them a pick..but IMO you get PHX realllllly interested if you can take on the Chandler contract...

Now that the Spurs PAID Pau, I doubt the look at Chandler.

[look_at_g_shred]

Anyone see the bleacher report notification about LBJ eager for Irving to be traded?

[sasaint]

What trades are you thinking of regarding Brooklyn or Atlanta?

Actually I wasn't thinking of players, just management. After looking at their rosters, I couldn't see anything promising at first glance. I don't think either team has much of anything to facilitate a deal between the Spurs and Cavs.

[vy65]

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CLEVELAND -- Derrick Rose and the Cavaliers agreed to a one-year deal for $2.1 million contract Monday after spending the day together, discussing how the team will return to the Finals without Kyrie Irving.

Rose, 28, the 2011 NBA MVP whose career has been hampered by knee injuries, is on his way to the Cavs looking for the first trip to the Finals after eight pro seasons. He's also looking at a potential starting spot in the same lineup with LeBron James, now that Irving has asked for a trade and James is eager to see him off.

https://articles.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/07/derrick_rose_cavaliers_agree_t.amp

[TheGreatYacht]

1yr deals for George Hill and Derrick Rose. Thankfully PATFO handed out $50M to Pity Mills at 12:01am before teams started calling him at 12:02am

[spurs10]

Now that the Spurs PAID Pau, I doubt the look at Chandler. Even if LMA is traded? I think they'll have to get someone if LMA is gone. If Murray is included with Green and/or Aldridge then there will an open spot on the roster and it's doubtful it won't be a big...imo.

[coachmac87]

Now that the Spurs PAID Pau, I doubt the look at Chandler.

Yeah I'd have to agree with that lol.

[gospursgojas]

Maybe Cavs waiting on DRose to sign before trading Kyrie

[Emperor]

Maybe Cavs waiting on DRose to sign before trading Kyrie

Ya think? :lol

[coachmac87]

Ok Kyrie is officially gone imo...just not sure where lol

[NASpurs]

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[Spur|n|Austin]

Getting interesting..

[noles1983]

damn, rose for 2 million and we get patty for 4/50. :flipoff

[Spurs9]

damn, rose for 2 million and we get patty for 4/50. :flipoff

:lol :lol

[hater]

Lmao Fatty Chills. Worst contract in the nba

:lmao Sperms

[Dverde]

Lmao Fatty Chills. Worst contract in the nba

:lmao Sperms

Might want to check the news. Patty isn't even the worst contract on the team anymore.

[jermaine]

damn, rose for 2 million and we get patty for 4/50. :flipoff

Please don't put Rose an Party in the same sentence again! That nigga made of glass! Party is a champion anbhas earned it. From a fat bench guy waving towels, to Mr. 50million!

[RodNIc91]

Lmao Fatty Chills. Worst contract in the nba

:lmao Sperms

It is, but perhaps a good sign is the fact the contract hasn't been signed yet

[RD2191]

Lmao Fatty Chills. Worst contract in the nba

:lmao Sperms

LMAO

[Hoops Czar]

It is, but perhaps a good sign is the fact the contract hasn't been signed yet
Have the Spurs ever gone back on their word, EVER?

[jermaine]

It is, but perhaps a good sign is the fact the contract hasn't been signed yet

Patty hasn't signed yet? Oh wow. Wasn't he one of those 12:01am agreeing people?

[BatManu20]

FIGHT!!

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[UZER]

FIGHT!!

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This dude. He couldn't even take getting dunked by a college scrub. :lol

[Hoops Czar]

This dude. He couldn't even take getting dunked by a college scrub. :lol
Of course. Nobody leaves the King, the King leaves you.

[BillMc]

Of course. Nobody leaves the King, the King leaves you.
:lol So true, Maybe LBJ knows how Bosh and Wade felt in 2014

[Seventyniner]

If I start a thread called "The Glass (Cannon) Cathedral of Kyrie Irving" will it get closed?

[Chinook]

If I start a thread called "The Glass (Cannon) Cathedral of Kyrie Irving" will it get closed?

Not if you start it in the Think Tank. :toast











I just won't approve it.

[cutewizard]

MJ's resume just keeps getting better and better....

Lebron unable to approach MJ yet, tbh

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7MLT4MmAK8

[lmbebo]

Wonder if the Spurs have been involved in this for awhile?

Around the draft with all the LMA rumors, didn't he unfollow all the spurs and follow the cavs?

[poop]

Kahwi and kyrie wld skullfuck the league

[baseline bum]

Wonder if the Spurs have been involved in this for awhile?

Around the draft with all the LMA rumors, didn't he unfollow all the spurs and follow the cavs?

No, he unfollowed the Spurs twitter account and deleted his tweets from when he signed here.

[lmbebo]

No, he unfollowed the Spurs twitter account and deleted his tweets from when he signed here.

Oh....

[Chillen]

So the real question here is do Gilbert and LeBron want to try and mess it up for the Warriors by trading Kyrie to San Antonio when they could probably get better offers. It would look good for Gilbert by trading Kyrie to San Antonio since he helped them win a ring in 2016. LeBron's biggest problem is the Warriors, even without Kyrie they have a good shot at the Finals. So by trading Irving to the Spurs, you are giving your former star player what he wants and making it more difficult for the Warriors. For Gilbert that has to be tempting.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Can't wait for the next 40 pages full of Pau for Kyrie trade proposals.

[Blackjack]

Can't wait for the next 40 pages full of Pau for Kyrie trade proposals.

LeBron only wants Murray. They gave Pau the money to make salaries work.

[hater]

Damn this thread started slowing down like Manu circa 2009 :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

It's fun to think about the possibilities.. but ain't gonna happen.

Irving is probably going to NY to get endorsements, chuck a lot, and get some coaches fired like a true newyorker.

[Jdspur20]

It's fun to think about the possibilities.. but ain't gonna happen.

Irving is probably going to NY to get endorsements, chuck a lot, and get some coaches fired like a true newyorker.

I just don't see what NY can offer him besides Anthony. Anthony won't agree to a trade if there is a possibility that LBJ won't be in Cleveland next year.

[sasaint]

I just don't see what NY can offer him besides Anthony. Anthony won't agree to a trade if there is a possibility that LBJ won't be in Cleveland next year.

New York is not much different than San Antonio. I doubt there is much mutual interest between the Cavs and LMA. So, both New York and San Antonio probably need to bring a third team into the deal to make it work.

[BatManu20]

LMA + Murray + draft pick. Take it CLE!

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[Ice009]

Excellent. Kyrie needs to get it out there he doesn't want to play for teams not on his list and that he won't re-sign with them. Scare them all off.

[Jdspur20]

New York is not much different than Sabn Antonio. I doubt there is much mutual interest between the Cavs and LMA. So, both New York and San Antonio probably need to bring a third team into the deal to make it work.

For sure.

[Jdspur20]

LMA + Murray + draft pick. Take it CLE!

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That's probably the best offer they have.

Assuming of course, the Spurs have even offered that.

[Jdspur20]

Excellent. Kyrie needs to get it out there he doesn't want to play for teams not on his list and that he won't re-sign with them. Scare them all off.

Agreed. He's probably most likely already done that behind closed doors. No trade clause or not.

[Ice009]

That's probably the best offer they have.

Assuming of course, the Spurs have even offered that.

lol, good point. For all we know, the Spurs probably haven't even offered.

[Mr. Body]

It seems like only crap is available for trades nowadays. Minnesota got Butler for crap.

[Joseph Kony]

lol Cleveland is dumb. Of course they're getting crap offers. Kyrie only wants to play for 4 teams, only 1 of which actually needs a PG :lol

[Spurs9]

:lol this article showing Bledsoe and Irving, everyone trying to trade machine Bledsoe into a Irving :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

lol Cleveland is dumb. Of course they're getting crap offers. Kyrie only wants to play for 4 teams, only 1 of which actually needs a PG :lol

NY does too

[look_at_g_shred]

Excellent. Kyrie needs to get it out there he doesn't want to play for teams not on his list and that he won't re-sign with them. Scare them all off.

[Jdspur20]

It seems like only crap is available for trades nowadays. Minnesota got Butler for crap.

Boy, that's no joke. Well said.

[Joseph Kony]

NY does too
Yeah but that's dependent on Melo waiving his no trade clause which he's not going to do to come to Cleveland without Kyrie and with no commitment that he will stay. I also read a report earlier saying Melo will be a Rocket by this evening

[look_at_g_shred]

Yeah but that's dependent on Melo waiving his no trade clause which he's not going to do to come to Cleveland without Kyrie and with no commitment that he will stay. I also read a report earlier saying Melo will be a Rocket by this evening
Well hopefully that's true. Maybe Kyrie pressures them to make a move quicker if melo is traded.

[TheGreatYacht]

LMA + Murray + draft pick. Take it CLE!

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Let's be real. Spurs haven't and won't offer a damn thing. Drunkford likes what he has.

[sasaint]

That's probably the best offer they have.

Assuming of course, the Spurs have even offered that.

BIG assumption.


:pop: "Kyrie hasn't gotten over himself yet. He will be ready to join the Spurs in about 10 years - unless his knees hold up."

[kjhip1]

Cavs are definitely in a bind. They want the best deal but teams are low balling because they know there is no way he'll be be there at the start of the season especially with rose on the team and Lebron apparently wanting to beat his ass. Whatever deal is made will be lobsided.

[Jdspur20]

Cavs are definitely in a bind. They want the best deal but teams are low balling because they know there is no way he'll be be there at the start of the season especially with rose on the team and Lebron apparently wanting to beat his ass. Whatever deal is made will be lobsided.

Yep

[BillMc]

Cavs are definitely in a bind. They want the best deal but teams are low balling because they know there is no way he'll be be there at the start of the season especially with rose on the team and Lebron apparently wanting to beat his ass. Whatever deal is made will be lobsided.

All true.

It's funny LBJ being mad. How many teammates has he left in the past? Jilted a Heat team that had made 4 straight Finals including best pal Wade.

[Spurs9]

:pop: This teams future is built around Kyle Anderson and Gasol

[sasaint]

Let's be real. Spurs haven't and won't offer a damn thing. Drunkford likes what he has.

PG is not a position of need. Tony will be back by January, ready to go until he is 40. We are set. :downspin:

[sasaint]

:pop: This teams future is built around Kyle Anderson and Gasol

Mostly Tony until he reaches 40.

[kjhip1]

with Irving most likely being traded, does Boston overtake Cleveland this year?

[Joseph Kony]

with Irving most likely being traded, does Boston overtake Cleveland this year?
Not as long as LeBron James plays in Cleveland

[Chucho]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...

[Big Empty]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...
its offseason. It could be worse, we could talk about baseball all day

[Chucho]

its offseason. It could be worse, we could talk about baseball all day


Yeah, but, it would still be like, uh relevant and won't go 41 pages.

[SupremeGuy]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...It's fun to imagine :cry

[.G.]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...

"lace them up..."

Always thought that was more of a wrestling thing. Basketball? Not so much, but I could get used to it :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...
It's the offseason and a 25yr old is interested in the Spurs. Of course this will get clicks, retard.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I just can't fathom 41 pages about a dude who is never gonna lace them up for the Spurs in the next 10 years. Fucking ST...

Go read the Jason Kidd thread.

[Chucho]

It's the offseason and a 25yr old is interested in the Spurs. Of course this will get clicks, retard.


We're talking about 41 pages of posts, not clicks, you fucking idiot. Not everyone lives in an ST bubble and posts here 50x a day, you fucking chump and Champion Shit Poster. And everyone knows he isn't interested in the Spurs more than the media always says that.

Sorry dumb dogs like you haven't much else, you faggot.

[spurs10]

Mostly Tony until he reaches 45.
Fify

[TheGreatYacht]

We're talking about 41 pages of posts, not clicks, you fucking idiot. Not everyone lives in an ST bubble and posts here 50x a day, you fucking chump and Champion Shit Poster. And everyone knows he isn't interested in the Spurs more than the media always says that.

Sorry dumb dogs like you haven't much else, you faggot.
Why should we believe a shit poster like yourself over Woj and other respectable people? :lol

You can't help but to be an edgy little cu.nt can you? Dipshit.

[Poolboy5623]

We're talking about 41 pages of posts, not clicks, you fucking idiot. Not everyone lives in an ST bubble and posts here 50x a day, you fucking chump and Champion Shit Poster. And everyone knows he isn't interested in the Spurs more than the media always says that.

Sorry dumb dogs like you haven't much else, you faggot.

but but but....Spurs are getting Kyrie this year....and Lebron, Cousins, and PG next year. Because they're the Spurs and they sign big name free agents. Haven't you been paying attention??

[TheGreatYacht]

but but but....Spurs are getting Kyrie this year....and Lebron, Cousins, and PG next year. Because they're the Spurs and they sign big name free agents. Haven't you been paying attention??
Translation: Why try and get better when we can pay 37+yr olds? #TrustPatfoAndStayCalm #PopsSystem

[Ice009]

Translation: Why try and get better when we can pay 37+yr olds? #TrustPatfoAndStayCalm #PopsSystem

If only Dejaun Blair's quote when he was on the team was true "the system is a beast." He made it sound like the system can make anyone look good.

[TheGreatYacht]

If only Dejaun Blair's quote when he was on the team was true "the system is a beast." He made it sound like system can make anyone look good.
That "system" is hurting more players than it's helping tbh... just ask Danny and Aldridge

[DPG21920]

All true.

It's funny LBJ being mad. How many teammates has he left in the past? Jilted a Heat team that had made 4 straight Finals including best pal Wade.

I would not buy all this lebron hates kyrie stuff.

[rjv]

i can't recall the last time i saw ST in such a full meltdown mode, and that's saying a lot.

[TheGreatYacht]

I would not buy all this lebron hates kyrie stuff.
Kyrie unfollowed Lebron on IG, :lol. Take that as you will

[hater]

i can't recall the last time i saw ST in such a full meltdown mode, and that's saying a lot.

Meltdown?

Just wait till Kyrie goes to NY and Spurs sign Manus cousin, Juan Peluche

[DPG21920]

Kyrie unfollowed Lebron on IG, :lol. Take that as you will

These guys all troll each other on social media and the fans :lol

LMA "unfollowed" SA and he's still a Spurs

[TheGreatYacht]

These guys all troll each other on social media and the fans :lol

LMA "unfollowed" SA and he's still a Spurs
The commissioner of the NBA has talked about the beef going on there, it's 100% real :lol

Aldridge is still here because of his contract. He's out the first chance he gets

[DPG21920]

The commissioner of the NBA has talked about the beef going on there, it's 100% real :lol

Aldridge is still here because of his contract. He's out the first chance he gets

Well Lebron James actually spoke about it himself:

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[TheGreatYacht]

Well Lebron James actually spoke about it himself:

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He denied the rumors about him wanting to beat Kyrie's ass and about him being eager to trade him. Didn't deny anything else.

They can easily prove the reports wrong by doing this:

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... but we all know they won't.

[Atl Spur]

Patience is a virtue....... way too many moving parts behind the scenes to fully know the final result. RELAX and enjoy that your team is always relevant!

[DPG21920]

He denied the rumors about him wanting to beat Kyrie's ass and about him being eager to trade him. Didn't deny anything else.

They can easily prove the reports wrong by doing this:

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... but we all know they won't.

I think everyone knows the trade requests are real :lol Just not the "I want to fight him" media stuff.

[TheGreatYacht]

I think everyone knows the trade requests are real :lol Just not the "I want to fight him" media stuff.
:lol well yea. You know it's fake news when Stephen A was the only one that got this scoop

[hater]

Wait ppl believed that Lebronze wanted to beat Kylie. ??

:lmao NbA fans are fucking retards

[rjv]

the longer this drags out the less cleveland gets back for irving. time only benefits the buyer.

[Spurtacular]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20144300/zach-lowe-kyrie-irving-cleveland-cavaliers-potential-trades-nba


What makes this different, and so shocking, is Irving's rejection of LeBron James (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james) and the guaranteed championship contention that comes with him. Almost no player has ever rejected winning at that level. Even superstars pay an ego cost to play in June. That is how you win rings.

Hadn't really quite thought about it like that. Irving has to be mad at someone in Cleveland, whether it's James or management....

[Spurtacular]

the longer this drags out the less cleveland gets back for irving. time only benefits the buyer.

Not really. Cleveland doesn't have to trade Irving just because he requested a trade. They should be looking for equity.

[look_at_g_shred]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20144300/zach-lowe-kyrie-irving-cleveland-cavaliers-potential-trades-nba



Hadn't really quite thought about it like that. Irving has to be mad at someone in Cleveland, whether it's James or management....
how have you not heard? He wants out because James wanted him traded for butler and George.

[rjv]

Not really. Cleveland doesn't have to trade Irving just because he requested a trade. They should be looking for equity. they don't have to but if they want to dump him, if they feel they have to dump him, the longer they wait the less his value.

[look_at_g_shred]

Plus, people arguing the point that they don't have to trade him, they just discussed with Rose yesterday how they can get to the finals w/o Irving....uhhh...

[Spurtacular]

they don't have to but if they want to dump him, if they feel they have to dump him, the longer they wait the less his value.

Don't have to dump him. He's not in a contract year, and even if he plays disgruntled through much of the season, the Cavs are in a weak conference and can afford that.

[coachmac87]

Don't have to dump him. He's not in a contract year, and even if he plays disgruntled through much of the season, the Cavs are in a weak conference and can afford that.

Or since they're in a weak conference they trade him out West and get back players or assets who aren't disgruntled and can cause a circus/distraction all season..

[rjv]

Don't have to dump him. He's not in a contract year, and even if he plays disgruntled through much of the season, the Cavs are in a weak conference and can afford that. even if they pull him this year, because they do not like what they are offered, they will get diminished returns next summer. i am not stating they will trade him. i am stating that he will lose value over time.

[Chucho]

Why should we believe a shit poster like yourself over Woj and other respectable people? :lol

You can't help but to be an edgy little cu.nt can you? Dipshit.


LOL, you tried shitting on me, and then got shat on by others, per par. You suck and it's funny because you know you suck and wouldn't have an identity outside being a shit poster. Good for you, you're life revolves around a troll board and you're on par with the Avantes and Luvas of this place.

[TheGreatYacht]

LOL, you tried shitting on me, and then got shat on by others, per par. You suck and it's funny because you know you suck and wouldn't have an identity outside being a shit poster. Good for you, you're life revolves around a troll board and you're on par with the Avantes and Luvas of this place.
Who did that? All I saw was you deflecting from the fact that you were trying to be smartass by pretending you had your own sources. Then you got called out and disappeared.

How did going against the grain and voting for Trump work out for ya? :lol Your faggot ass is always trying to be edgy but you come off as a fat fedora wearing neckbeard.

[Spurtacular]

how have you not heard? He wants out because James wanted him traded for butler and George.

No, I had not heard. Haven't been watching much ESPN. Link?

[Spurtacular]

even if they pull him this year, because they do not like what they are offered, they will get diminished returns next summer. i am not stating they will trade him. i am stating that he will lose value over time.

But that still leaves them plenty of time to trade him for good value in the meantime.

[Spurtacular]

Kyrie unfollowed Lebron on IG, :lol. Take that as you will

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Chillen]

how have you not heard? He wants out because James wanted him traded for butler and George.

This makes the most sense, and the GM gets fired to. That would explain the beef.

[rjv]

But that still leaves them plenty of time to trade him for good value in the meantime. well, yeah, and of course the more time that passes...