Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

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Adrian Wojnarowski did not retweet yet

[gambit1990]

would rather have john wall
without a doubt.

kyrie: "i've been to the finals three straight times, i'm down 2-1, and i want out :cry:cry:cry"

step the fuck off quiter.

[SouthTexasRancher]

We've had a few head cases, the most well known being Dennis Rodman and now LMA (if the rumors are really as bad as has been made out to be). We have won a ton of games the past two seasons (120+ regular season) with this team including the past season w/o Timmy. Kyrie wants to be top dog yet on the Spurs he would be below Kawhi like he is now with Lebron. He is starting to sound like a spoiled brat who could go south in a nano-second. From the way this off season has gone, I'd prefer we not go after him. I can't imagine him fitting in very well with his 'me first' attitude. Give the youngsters a chance with substantial critical minutes and let's see what they can do. I'd really like to see guys like Dejounte Murray, Bryn Forbes and Davis Bertans on the court more, especially in crunch time. No matter what we'll still win least 50 games again for the one millionth time.

And for the record I'm not sold on the Rockets being that much better than the past season.

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[BatManu20]

Now he wants to be a Clipper? Kyrie's all over the place.


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[NASpurs]

Now he wants to be a Clipper? Kyrie's all over the place.


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Kennedy is bad enough but now he's quoting Peter Vecsey, the original Chris Broussard.

[Leetonidas]

At this point I'm over it. He aint coming here. And anywhere he goes probably isnt going to make a difference anyway. All this does is cement another title for GS imo

[Chillen]

I would be surprised if he is traded at this point, they clearly don't like any of the deals presented. I bet they will wait till camp opens to see if he becomes a problem, like not showing up or threatening to sit games out. If he doesn't show up he's gone, they will probably take one of those deals to get him out of there if that happens. He's under contract so if he causes any issues with team they can fine him. Gilbert is gonna wait till camp opens to see if he becomes a problem, I don't blame him either Irving is a really good player. So yeah I would be surprised if a deal goes down before training camp, I think they want him to stay in case LeBron leaves again.

[Dex]

At this point I'm over it. He aint coming here. And anywhere he goes probably isnt going to make a difference anyway. All this does is cement another title for GS imo

:lol Like the Cavs were gonna be a threat to them. We saw how easy they got worked over two months ago and they haven't done shit to get better.

[Clipper Nation]

Now he wants to be a Clipper? Kyrie's all over the place.


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Doesn't matter what he wants, he has no NTC and multiple years left on his contract. He has no say in where he gets traded to. And we don't have enough to offer the Cavs.

[TheDoctor]

Doesn't matter what he wants, he has no NTC and multiple years left on his contract. He has no say in where he gets traded to. And we don't have enough to offer the Cavs.

[Chillen]

:lol Like the Cavs were gonna be a threat to them. We saw how easy they got worked over two months ago and they haven't done shit to get better.

They are pretty much a lock for a repeat unless Spurs land Kyrie, Spurs did not get significantly better, Houston and OKC will win 1 or 2 games against them in the playoffs and they will smash the Cavs again and sweep the Celtics if they beat Cleveland. The only real threat to that Warriors team repeating is injury's, fatigue (3 straight NBA finals, long seasons, except for KD) and poor play (yes, they can have a bad series in the playoffs).

[SpursforSix]

They are pretty much a lock for a repeat unless Spurs land Kyrie, Spurs did not get significantly better, Houston and OKC will win 1 or 2 games against them in the playoffs and they will smash the Cavs again and sweep the Celtics if they beat Cleveland. The only real threat to that Warriors team repeating is injury's, fatigue (3 straight NBA finals, long seasons, except for KD) and poor play (yes, they can have a bad series in the playoffs).

100%. Spurs probably beat GSW if they make it to WCF. Had them last season and Spurs got better over the summer.

[weebo]

100%. Spurs probably beat GSW if they make it to WCF. Had them last season and Spurs got better over the summer.

They may be marginally better only because some of last year's new guys on the team will have a year under their belt playing for the Spurs. This Spurs team as currently constructed is at best 2nd round/WCF exit.

[baseline bum]

Now saying he wants to go to the Clippers is just trolling LeBron, since of course the Cavs would have traded him for CP3 in July and of course the Clippers would have taken Irving over Lou Williams and Patrick Beverley. :lmao

[exstatic]

Now saying he wants to go to the Clippers is just trolling LeBron, since of course the Cavs would have traded him for CP3 in July and of course the Clippers would have taken Irving over Lou Williams and Patrick Beverley. :lmao
It's...Vecsey. That's less valid than anyone national.

[cd021]

Haven't heard the LAC rumors, unless they move 'Dre Jordan but that doesn't make much sense for the Clippers.
moving Patrick Beverly & DeAndre Jordan for Irving would leave them super thin up front and make them a turnstile on defense. Probably better now in their current form.

[Chillen]

Even with Irving staying Cavs really did nothing to get better except Derrick Rose. Assuming they can beat Boston I don't see them beating the Warriors. The only team with a real shot at beating the Warriors is still the Spurs and the sweep last season don't count (Leonard's ankle ZaZaed, Parker out, Lee got hurt). Houston and OKC can score on them but I don't see them winning a 7 game series if both teams are healthy.

[SpursforSix]

They may be marginally better only because some of last year's new guys on the team will have a year under their belt playing for the Spurs. This Spurs team as currently constructed is at best 2nd round/WCF exit.

I agree. They should make the WCF and have a 40% chance to beat GSW. Which would be the real Finals. Then 4-2 over whatever Eastern Conference fodder shows up.

[bklynspursfan]

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[cd021]

Even with Irving staying Cavs really did nothing to get better except Derrick Rose. Assuming they can beat Boston I don't see them beating the Warriors. The only team with a real shot at beating the Warriors is still the Spurs and the sweep last season don't count (Leonard's ankle ZaZaed, Parker out, Lee got hurt). Houston and OKC can score on them but I don't see them winning a 7 game series if both teams are healthy.

Houston has a shot at competing against GSW, they did good to add wing defenders to try and better match up against us and GS. Houston getting Carmello does nothing to help them compete against either team but I could see why they would try.

[jyra]

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Cleveland is determined to get an elite young player for Irving, which means this: The trade plan the Cavaliers would have prioritized, with James committed for the long term -- veterans to surround James and draft picks -- isn't in motion. If the Cavaliers knew they had James committed, for example, San Antonio could emerge as a more intriguing trade partner. The Spurs have interest in Irving, league sources say, and Irving's willingness to commit to an extension with the Spurs makes for legitimate win-now deal possibilities for Cleveland. Without James beyond next season, though, the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Tony Parker and Danny Green hold no appeal.

Two weeks ago he was supposed to be unwilling to commit to any team long term. I guess you can't trust any of these reports.

[TheDoctor]

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Two weeks ago he was supposed to be unwilling to commit to any team long term. I guess you can't trust any of these reports.

Exactly. Too much misinformation to generate clicks and all. It's disgusting tbh

[Joseph Kony]

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Two weeks ago he was supposed to be unwilling to commit to any team long term. I guess you can't trust any of these reports.
Tony Parker included on that list :wow

[UZER]

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Two weeks ago he was supposed to be unwilling to commit to any team long term. I guess you can't trust any of these reports.

I think he really wants to be in SA, and that "unwilling to commit" was more of a message to other teams that are trying to trade for him.

Media seem to be trying to send him everywhere else but SA per par.

[Chinook]

I think he really wants to be in SA, and that "unwilling to commit" was more of a message to other teams that are trying to trade for him.

Media seem to be trying to send him everywhere else but SA per par.

RealGM says he would be willing to sign long-term.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247179/Kyrie-Irving-Spurs-Have-Mutual-Interest

Parker just can't not be part of the package.

[look_at_g_shred]

Get a deal done.

[look_at_g_shred]

I wonder what our initial offer was. And if this news just broke about kyrie's willingness to commit, Does it change the spurs' offer?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Let's get this train rolling again! Pages on pages to comes.

[gospursgojas]

This article cherry-picks stuff from the original article to make it seem like Irving/Spurs is big news. The orig Woj article merely mentions Spurs as an example of a trade that could not happen-even calls out the Spurs lack of assets that are attractive to the Cavs.

The Woj article does however state that Irving was open to extension with Spurs if traded- That's news to me.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20343088/lebron-future-impacts-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-trades

[cd98]

This article cherry-picks stuff from the original article to make it seem like Irving/Spurs is big news. The orig Woj article merely mentions Spurs as an example of a trade that could not happen-even calls out the Spurs lack of assets that are attractive to the Cavs.

The Woj article does however state that Irving was open to extension with Spurs if traded- That's news to me.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20343088/lebron-future-impacts-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-trades

Yes, but what does this mean. He can't sign an extension until next year, right? So he could get traded here and not like it or Pop could retire and he could want to go somewhere else and there is nothing other than a promise he can just as easily walk away from. It's a risk for any team that trades for him, but if we just give up veterans and a pick, probably a low risk for us. If another team gives up a young star, then that is risky.

[SPURt]

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The whole premise that trading Kyrie for vets and picks isn't attractive because Lebron might leave is just straight dumb. Let's play this ridiculous game and assume two scenarios:

1. Kyrie stays because he's young and they can't get a young stud in return but Lebron leaves in free agency.
2. The Cavs land Andrew Wiggins for Kyrie and Lebron leaves.

The problem the Cavs have is that neither scenario will put a team on the court that will compete for a championship. No matter what young player is on that team in the event Lebron leaves FOR NOTHING in return the Cavs will once again be irrelevant. The only two options the Cavs have are these:

1. Trade Kyrie for great vets and picks and ignore the fact Lebron may leave this summer.
2. Trade Lebron now(assuming there isn't a no trade clause) and commit to Kyrie.

This whole situation is purely Lebron's fault. What a poorly run organization. Lebron is the most valuable asset in the league and they can turn him into multiple pieces if the Cavs want to rebuild. Lebron is the Brett Favre of the NBA. Cavs fans are some unlucky fans. Spurs fans are so lucky to have had David Robinson, Tim Duncan, and now Kawhi. These guys have never and would never hold the franchise hostage, Orlando being the closest call.

How is Lebron getting through this without the media straight dumping on him?

[BatManu20]

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[coachmac87]

The Cavs motivation for the trade shouldn't change if LeBron is leaving...

They initially wanted veteran player(s), young asset and pick(s).

Those type of assets in the trade help Cavs THIS year and the future..but if I'm the Cavs I focus on getting better NOW and not so much on the future.

LeBron holds the keys to the castle and if he leaves the Cavs are fucked regardless whatever they get in return

[Big Empty]

they should trade LeBron and keep Kyrie.

[Chillen]

Irving is a great player but the Knicks would be stupid as f**k to trade Kristaps Porzingis for him to the Cavs. He's 22 with plenty of upside and they just need to surround him with talent.

[Budkin]

Irving is a great player but the Knicks would be stupid as f**k to trade Kristaps Porzingis for him to the Cavs. He's 22 with plenty of upside and they just need to surround him with talent.

The Knicks have been stupid as f**k for at least 15 years now and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

[RD2191]

The Knicks have been stupid as f**k for at least 15 years now and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

:lol TBH

[Chillen]

Yeah I know but they can attempt to put an end to the stupidity for a change. If Spurs fail to acquire Kyrie Irving via trade, the Knicks stupidity might be the reason. No way do the Cavs say no to KP. If this trade happens and Noah gets shipped to Cleveland with KP now that would be a good laugh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Get it done. Sell them Whataburger stock

[BSfromTX]

At this point I would trade lebron. He's throwing everyone under the bus and holding the cabs hostage. He may have no trade clause, but if not, I would do it. I

[Leetonidas]

He has a no trade clause and he already said he isnt waiving it. LeBron aint going anywhere until he decides

[NASpurs]

So Kyrie wants to come here and would be willing to sign a long-term deal but the Spurs have no one outside of Kawhi that Cleveland wants. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. :bang

[TheDoctor]

RC just do it mfer

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[TheDoctor]

Let's get this train rolling again! Pages on pages to comes.
:lol

[BatManu20]

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[TimDunkem]

So Kyrie wants to come here and would be willing to sign a long-term deal but the Spurs have no one outside of Kawhi that Cleveland wants. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. :bang
So nothing has changed.

[Dex]

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Stupid premise. Any trade that would land Kyrie would undoubtedly have to include Aldridge.

Kawhi is off the table, and does anybody else really think a broken Parker, regressing Green, or overpaid Gasol is going to net anything of value?

[Dex]

RC just do it mfer

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RC isn't the one saying no. Cavs don't want to trade their second best player for a rental of LMA, Green, and filler...especially if they aren't sure if Lebron will even be sticking around.

Reports are that they want a "Melo type deal" for it, and the Spurs don't have anything close to making that happen.

[RD2191]

I don't see why the cavs are acting as if they have the leverage here, who's going to trade a young star for kyrie if he's not willing to commit long term?

[BillMc]

It is like one of those trashy romance novels. Spurs want Kyrie. Kyrie wants the Spurs and is ready to commit. But something stands in their way. All we need is Fabio, a chick falling out of her dress, and some epic background (like the Alamo). :lol

[cd021]

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Makes no sense for the Knicks to swap them for each other, the goal should be to 'Taps and Kyrie together.

They have all of their picks going forward, the problem is that Melo doesn't want to go to the Cavs so the Knicks would have to build a trade without him, that would probably be Hernagomez, Lee, Ntilikina, and an unprotected first round pick

[cd021]

It is like one of those trashy romance novels. Spurs want Kyrie. Kyrie wants the Spurs and is ready to commit. But something stands in their way. All we need is Fabio, a chick falling out of her dress, and some epic background (like the Alamo). :lol
:lol star crossed lovers

better yet:

lone star crossed lovers

this novel writes it self :lol

[BillMc]

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In this picture is LMA complaining to God about not getting his touches with K & K taking all the shots? :lol

[BillMc]

:lol star crossed lovers

better yet:

lone star crossed lovers

this novel writes it self :lol

Lone Star Crossed Lovers. :toast:lol

Brilliant!!!! We'll sell a million.:lol

[cd98]

I don't see why the cavs are acting as if they have the leverage here, who's going to trade a young star for kyrie if he's not willing to commit long term?

Even more important is the money game. Kyrie is going to get a big, big contract next year. So who wants to trade a star on a great contract for a star that will want the super max (highly likely he gets stats to make an all NBA team) or he'll move on.

[cd98]

In this picture is LMA complaining to God about not getting his touches with K & K taking all the shots? :lol

Makes me feel like we need to get one more "K" to make the trifecta. Kevin Love anyone?

[cd021]

RC isn't the one saying no. Cavs don't want to trade their second best player for a rental of LMA, Green, and filler...especially if they aren't sure if Lebron will even be sticking around.

Reports are that they want a "Melo type deal" for it, and the Spurs don't have anything close to making that happen.

I highly doubt LMA opts out of $22.3, so it's probably not a rental. I don't see why Cleveland would want LMA, Thompson and Love are fine and he would be a fifth wheel. Green makes plenty of sense, he can actually shoot and defend which would probably make him the 3rd or 4th best player on the Cavs.

[Spur|n|Austin]

It is like one of those trashy romance novels. Spurs want Kyrie. Kyrie wants the Spurs and is ready to commit. But something stands in their way. All we need is Fabio, a chick falling out of her dress, and some epic background (like the Alamo). :lol

:lol if only I was good at Photoshop!

[cd98]

I highly doubt LMA opts out of $22.3, so it's probably not a rental. I don't see why Cleveland would want LMA, Thompson and Love are fine and he would be a fifth wheel. Green makes plenty of sense, he can actually shoot and defend which would probably make him the 3rd or 4th best player on the Cavs.

He's opting out unless something goes horribly wrong. Always better to have more guaranteed years with more guaranteed money than one year.

[Dex]

I highly doubt LMA opts out of $22.3, so it's probably not a rental. I don't see why Cleveland would want LMA, Thompson and Love are fine and he would be a fifth wheel. Green makes plenty of sense, he can actually shoot and defend which would probably make him the 3rd or 4th best player on the Cavs.

I think a lot of LMA would depend on how well he plays this upcoming season, and what Lebron's decision would be. He wouldn't want to stick around the Cavs if they are going back into the gutter.

That said, we are speaking purely about hypothetical that will probably never happen.

[BillMc]

Makes me feel like we need to get one more "K" to make the trifecta. Kevin Love anyone?
Well, KKK would get us a whole new fan base. :lol

[BillMc]

:lol if only I was good at Photoshop!
:lol:toast

[cd98]

Well, KKK would get us a whole new fan base. :lol

Probably not a good idea to have the 3rd "k" be a white guy.

[cd021]

He's opting out unless something goes horribly wrong. Always better to have more guaranteed years with more guaranteed money than one year.

Who's to say that happens, with next years market likely going to be worse it's not a guarantee he opts opts. His agent could put out feelers and he may have a market, who knows, he may get a 3 year, $50 million deal but it really depends on what happens next season.

[cd021]

Well, KKK would get us a whole new fan base. :lol

Spurs could definitely stand to do better with the Tiki torches and khaki demographic, Pop's did a good job scaring them off since the start of last season :lol

[cd021]

I don't see why the cavs are acting as if they have the leverage here, who's going to trade a young star for kyrie if he's not willing to commit long term?

He has two years left on his contract, that is long term in today's NBA. most contracts only run 4 years, having a superstar for two guaranteed years is pretty rare. He has no obligation to commit longer than that without seeing what happens once he gets traded to a new team.

[BillMc]

Probably not a good idea to have the 3rd "k" be a white guy.
Spurs moving to the team to the "Deliverance" region of Georgia if that happens. :lol

Hopefully, they can make the opposition squeal like a pig...

[cd021]

Even more important is the money game. Kyrie is going to get a big, big contract next year. So who wants to trade a star on a great contract for a star that will want the super max (highly likely he gets stats to make an all NBA team) or he'll move on.

Kyrie can't get a super max because he would have been traded.

[Ron Swanson]

So, is this happening or nah?

[rjv]

So, is this happening or nah? check back when this thread reaches page 150.

[Atl Spur]

Spurs could definitely stand to do better with the Tiki torches and khaki demographic, Pop's did a good job scaring them off since the start of last season :lol

That's funny? Wow.........

[cd021]

That's funny? Wow.........

I was being sarcastic.

[sasaint]

So, is this happening or nah?

Which "this"? If you mean Kyrie coming to the Spurs - no way. If you mean Kyrie for Kristaps and filler - no way. Kyrie for Melo? Extremely unlikely. Kyrie getting traded? I would guess it is about 50-50 before the start of the season.

[BillMc]

check back when this thread reaches page 150.
More entertaining than the Jimmer thread, tbh

[marinoman]

One of the espn reporters, Dave someshit, just said the cavs gm is in telaviv with rc and the Denver gm

[Russ]

Well, KKK would get us a whole new fan base. :lol

And an invitation to the White House (championship not required)!

[BillMc]

One of the espn reporters, Dave someshit, just said the cavs gm is in telaviv with rc and the Denver gm

cool. Work out a three way trade.

Also, I can't believe Mr. and Mrs. Someshit named their kid Dave...

[InRareForm]

5% chance spurs get kyrie. But im 100% interested in every new rumor or news.

[TheDoctor]

I don't see why LeBum is acting as if he have the leverage here, who's going to trade a young star for kyrie if he's not willing to commit long term?

I agree.

[TheDoctor]

I highly doubt LMA opts out of $22.3, so it's probably not a rental. I don't see why Cleveland would want LMA, Thompson and Love are fine and he would be a fifth wheel. Green makes plenty of sense, he can actually shoot and defend which would probably make him the 3rd or 4th best player on the Cavs.

Ehh... Sadly not anymore.

[TheDoctor]

One of the espn reporters, Dave someshit, just said the cavs gm is in telaviv with rc and the Denver gm

Please RC don't get drunk, stay lucid homie.

[look_at_g_shred]

One of the espn reporters, Dave someshit, just said the cavs gm is in telaviv with rc and the Denver gm
Dave mcmenamin? On tv or what?

[illusioNtEk]

Per espn: reason trade hasn't come through is because RC wants Irving to sign an extension.

Oh shit... it's happening?

[Spurtacular]

check back when this thread reaches page 150.

See you in November then. This thread has advanced about 4 pages in the last week and a half.

[RD2191]

Per espn: reason trade hasn't come through is because RC wants Irving to sign an extension.

Oh shit... it's happening?

What?

[ace3g]

One of the espn reporters, Dave someshit, just said the cavs gm is in telaviv with rc and the Denver gm

David Robinson is also there for NBA's Basketball Without Borders in Israel.

[Darius Bieber]

Woj just reported that Irving would agree to an extension with the Spurs.

[TimDunkem]

Per espn: reason trade hasn't come through is because RC wants Irving to sign an extension.

Oh shit... it's happening?
It's already been reported that he would.

[noles1983]

If LeBron would commit to the Cavs long term, the Spurs might have more than a snowball's chance in hell at landing Irving.

[ace3g]

If the rumors are true about interest both ways then Spurs, even if they have to get 3rd team involved, must make this happen. Yes it would make it easier if LeBron would commit to the Cavs.

[marinoman]

Dave mcmenamin? On tv or what?
Yea on tv, I didn't get his last name, white guy square head, could pass as ryen russilos brother. He didn't say a trade was imminent or anything, just that they're all together at some camp

[TheDoctor]

Per espn: reason trade hasn't come through is because RC wants Irving to sign an extension.

Oh shit... it's happening?

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[spurs10]

cool. Work out a three way trade.

Also, I can't believe Mr. and Mrs. Someshit named their kid Dave... I believe that's his middle name. His full name is Gimme Dave Someshit.
:bobo

[Slippy]

Woj just reported that Irving would agree to an extension with the Spurs.

:downspin:

[cd98]

Irving not even close to getting traded.

[RD2191]

Woj just reported that Irving would agree to an extension with the Spurs.

Where?

[TheDoctor]

Woj just reported that Irving would agree to an extension with the Spurs.

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[SpursforSix]

Where?

Your mom's raccoon vag.

[SpursforSix]

:pop: Sorry Kyrie, I can't extend 2 PG at over $20,000,000 each.

[TheDoctor]

Where?
Woj reported at 8AM:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20343088/lebron-future-impacts-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-trades

The Spurs have interest in Irving, league sources say, and Irving's willingness to commit to an extension with the Spurs makes for legitimate win-now deal possibilities for Cleveland. Without James beyond next season, though, the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge), Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker) and Danny Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) hold no appeal.

[SpursforSix]

Woj reported at 8AM:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20343088/lebron-future-impacts-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-trades

So no Green, Aldridge, or Parker. But something makes sense for "win now".
wtf.

[illusioNtEk]

So no Green, Aldridge, or Parker. But something makes sense for "win now".
wtf.


I kinda have the same feeling.... I mean... where we really that bad to blow shit up??

In the other hand.... an opportunity of this magnitude is rare indeed. If RC and CIA POP jumping the gun a bit ?

[ginobilized]

The pot is getting stirred! Intriguing possibilities.
Kyrie dropping 57 on the Spurs at home must be part of the appeal.

Is Denver the 3rd team involved? Do they have anyone that the Cavs would want?

[SpursforSix]

I kinda have the same feeling.... I mean... where we really that bad to blow shit up??

In the other hand.... an opportunity of this magnitude is rare indeed. If RC and CIA POP jumping the gun a bit ?


Idk. I take some comfort in knowing they will have to do something this year or next. If they don't, they'll be mediocre or bad for years. Then I can not worry about it. I've got my 5 rings and saw the glory years. Which was more than enough to watch the bad ones.

[Ron Swanson]

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[SuperCam]

if PATFO pull this off i will take back everything i said about them the last two years tbh. spur win multiple titles with kyrie in the core...

[dabom]

if PATFO pull this off i will take back everything i said about them the last two years tbh...

No one gives a shit what you think. :lmao

[TheDoctor]

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:lol

[Ice009]

Very interesting. The Spurs really do need a third team that can give the Cavs that young player.

Another question is, do the Cavs still want to trade Kevin Love? If so, would he be going to the 3rd team or the Spurs? Would Denver want Love or LMA if given the choice between the two? I'm assuming Love, so that would mean LMA to the Cavs and then Denver gets Love and sends Cleveland a young player to add to what they get from the Spurs. I think that could work. I guess it depends on what Denver is willing to give up if they want K-Love.

[dubross]

Very interesting. The Spurs really do need a third team that can give the Cavs that young player.

Another question is, do the Cavs still want to trade Kevin Love? If so, would he be going to the 3rd team or the Spurs? Would Denver want Love or LMA if given the choice between the two? I'm assuming Love, so that would mean LMA to the Cavs and then Denver gets Love and sends Cleveland a young player to add to what they get from the Spurs. I think that could work. I guess it depends on what Denver is willing to give up if they want K-Love.

Denver doesn’t need or want Love. They have Milsap

[Ice009]

Denver doesn’t need or want Love. They have Milsap

fuck, I forgot they signed him. I just wiped that signing because I thought Millsap was way overpaid. IMO before the Millsap signing they definitely wanted Love or someone similar based on the money they gave Millsap.

[BillMc]

I believe that's his middle name. His full name is Gimme Dave Someshit.
:bobo
:lol

[tbdog]

The pot is getting stirred! Intriguing possibilities.
Kyrie dropping 57 on the Spurs at home must be part of the appeal.

Is Denver the 3rd team involved? Do they have anyone that the Cavs would want?

Nuggets dont need LMA. Cavs apparently don't want LMA, although I would think Love and LMA front court is good with Lebron. Nuggets want to offload Faried. Cavs wouldn't want Faried.

It is still possible to trade Green+Murray+Bertans+Anderson to get Irving. The contracts match. The Cavs best trade junk asset is Frye who has 7mil expiring. So the Spurs will need to find a team that is willing to get rid of a longer contact that the Cavs would want or a player the Cavs want for just one year. And if LMA is included, then we absolutely must get back a big who can play major minutes, as we just don't have any outside Gasol.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yasd5l2x
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycjlxgrg

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7sg6dkl

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ooapns

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydhpraa9
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7g3l9xn

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs have nothing the Cavs want. Irving will most likely go to Phoenix for Bledsoe

[coachmac87]

Spurs have nothing the Cavs want. Irving will most likely go to Phoenix for Bledsoe

Lmao...

That's one hell of a trade

[Spur|n|Austin]

Spurs have nothing the Cavs want. Irving will most likely go to Phoenix for Bledsoe

Straight up huh?

[BatManu20]

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[LakerHater]

Cavs want Kristaps Porziņģis

[John Petrucci]

897522026730094592

:lol So hilarious how LeBron has controlled the outcomes of so many players' careers just being LBJ. His teammates just as much as his opponents. LBGM doing what he does.


Cavs want Kristaps Porziņģis

Good luck with that. Unicorn is going to be an MVP caliber player some day. Just get Melo tf out of there.

[Dancelot]

Your mom's raccoon vag.
:lol

[Spurtacular]

if PATFO pull this off i will take back everything i said about them the last two years tbh. spur win multiple titles with kyrie in the core...

It would make LMA the third or fourth option, which he is much better suited for at this point.

[Chillen]

Is there a way for the Spurs to land Kyrie Irving without giving up LMA? Irving, Leonard, LMA, Gasol, Rudy, Manu could make some noise.

[vander]

I don't follow other teams much. Is Kevin Love considered to be better or worse than LMA?

[dabom]

I don't follow other teams much. Is Kevin Love considered to be better or worse than LMA?

He's an allstar but LMA gonna win you games. Love has always been a choker leading shit in minny. I'd rather have LMA than Love. That's just me.

[BillMc]

He's an allstar but LMA gonna win you games. Love has always been a choker leading shit in minny. I'd rather have LMA than Love. That's just me.

Agreed. LMA has become a good defender. Love is a liability on that end. But I'd trade LMA and take back Love if somehow Kyrie also came in the mix.

[cd021]

Spurs have nothing the Cavs want. Irving will most likely go to Phoenix for Bledsoe


Lmao...

That's one hell of a trade


Straight up huh?

Cavs Get

Bledsoe
Dudley
2018 Suns pick (top 5 protected ) (probably still a top 12 pick despite Kyrie being on the Suns)

Suns get

Irving
Shumpert

makes plenty of since tbh
Frye

[szkorhetz]

He's an allstar but LMA gonna win you games. Love has always been a choker leading shit in minny. I'd rather have LMA than Love. That's just me.
LMA is the overally better player. But Love's shooting and rebounding would be a much better fit.

[look_at_g_shred]

Cavs Get

Bledsoe
Dudley
2018 Suns pick (top 5 protected ) (probably still a top 12 pick despite Kyrie being on the Suns)

Suns get

Irving
Shumpert

makes plenty of since tbh
Frye
For who? The cavs maybe. As for the suns, Irving has already said he's not committing to them long term. And if it was that simple, it would have already happened.

[Darius Bieber]

Where?

https://www.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/kyrie-irving-would-sign-extension-if-traded-to-san-antonio-spurs-report-says

[Mr. Body]

I don't get why LMA is a no-go because LeBron leaves. He doesn't fit on a personnel level, okay, but only has one year after the next on his contract.

[buttsR4rebounding]

LMA is the overally better player. But Love's shooting and rebounding would be a much better fit.

If the Spurs get Kevin Love does that mean we have the start of San Antonio's Gay Love Era?

[Manu20]

If the Spurs get Kevin Love does that mean we have the start of San Antonio's Gay Love Era?

Ahh I can hear Bill now......"Love to Gay, Gay back to Love...Ohhh Maammaa!!!!" Sean Laughing "See when the ball is moving everyone is happy out there!!" :lol

[Manu20]

Hopefully Lebron signs off on the Kyrie to Spurs trade as I think LMA and DG on a motivated Lebron and Cleveland team can be a serious title contenders next year.

[SpursforSix]

I'm lost now. So we're getting Kyrie and Love? For players not including: Parker, LMA, and Green?

[NASpurs]

BleacherReport, Chris Sheridan, the ultimate shit combo

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2727864-lebron-james-relationship-with-cavaliers-ownership-reportedly-beyond-repair

"LeBron James' Relationship with Cavaliers Ownership Reportedly 'Beyond Repair'"

[TheDoctor]

BleacherReport, Chris Sheridan, the ultimate shit combohttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/2727864-lebron-james-relationship-with-cavaliers-ownership-reportedly-beyond-repair"LeBron James' Relationship with Cavaliers Ownership Reportedly 'Beyond Repair'":lol This fucking drama

[cd021]

For who? The cavs maybe. As for the suns, Irving has already said he's not committing to them long term. And if it was that simple, it would have already happened.

Irving opting in for a 3rd year would cost him $9 million, it's a non option. 2 years at $18.8 and $20 million for Kyrie is a steal and two seasons should be enough time to sell him on the future off whatever team acquires him.

The Suns are have been wanting to move Bledsoe, swapping him for Kyrie is a an upgrade. Swapping Dudley for Bledsoe (who have similar contracts) is better for the Cavs because Dudley can actually defend and shoot unlike Shumpert and would be something that the Suns may offer to do to sweeten the deal. Bledsoe is an downgrade but is a much better defender and has a connection with Lebron.

The Suns would essentially really only be giving up a lottery pick for Irving, considering that they already have Chriss, Bender, Jackson, and Booker already on roster, all of whom were taken in the lottery in the past three drafts, that shouldn't be that big of an issue plus they would have Miami's 2018 pick (probably ends up being 16-20)

Cavs pick up a very good PG but not quite the player that Irving is, they get Dudley who is better than Shumpert, and add a probable top 10 pick (while also having their own pick in 2018)

Suns get the best player in the deal and can pair him with Booker while still having Jackson, Chriss, Bender, and all there picks (minus the 2018 pick) plus Miami's in 2020. The Suns would be in good position to add a third star given all of their assets going forward.

[Phenomanul]

I rescind my desire to have Bron join the Spurs next season (independent of the fallout of the Kyrie drama). It's too distracting.

[look_at_g_shred]

Irving opting in for a 3rd year would cost him $9 million, it's a non option. 2 years at $18.8 and $20 million for Kyrie is a steal and two seasons should be enough time to sell him on the future off whatever team acquires him.

The Suns are have been wanting to move Bledsoe, swapping him for Kyrie is a an upgrade. Swapping Dudley for Bledsoe (who have similar contracts) is better for the Cavs because Dudley can actually defend and shoot unlike Shumpert and would be something that the Suns may offer to do to sweeten the deal. Bledsoe is an downgrade but is a much better defender and has a connection with Lebron.

The Suns would essentially really only be giving up a lottery pick for Irving, considering that they already have Chriss, Bender, Jackson, and Booker already on roster, all of whom were taken in the lottery in the past three drafts, that shouldn't be that big of an issue plus they would have Miami's 2018 pick (probably ends up being 16-20)

Cavs pick up a very good PG but not quite the player that Irving is, they get Dudley who is better than Shumpert, and add a probable top 10 pick (while also having their own pick in 2018)

Suns get the best player in the deal and can pair him with Booker while still having Jackson, Chriss, Bender, and all there picks (minus the 2018 pick) plus Miami's in 2020. The Suns would be in good position to add a third star given all of their assets going forward.
Cavs want Jackson though.

[cd98]

James should force his way to the Celtics.

[UZER]

BleacherReport, Chris Sheridan, the ultimate shit combo

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2727864-lebron-james-relationship-with-cavaliers-ownership-reportedly-beyond-repair

"LeBron James' Relationship with Cavaliers Ownership Reportedly 'Beyond Repair'"

LeBron is never one to be out drama-ed. :lol

"I'm not happy with ownership either!"

[cd021]

I'm lost now. So we're getting Kyrie and Love? For players not including: Parker, LMA, and Green?

Don't buy that the Cavs wouldn't be interested in Green, he would actually be playable against GSW unlike half their team and it's not like he is on some long term bad contract, it expires after this season but they would have his bird rights.

[Chinook]

Lebron's been a fucking bitch about Gilbert. Dude lost $40 Million on the Cavs last season. That's the cost of having the best player in the world on your team. PATFO couldn't do that, ignoring whether they would or should.

[cd021]

:lol This fucking drama

Gilbert gonna Gilbert tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Is there a way for the Spurs to land Kyrie Irving without giving up LMA? Irving, Leonard, LMA, Gasol, Rudy, Manu could make some noise.
How nice of you to insert Manure in there so the other team has a chance.

[cd021]

Cavs want Jackson though.


And the Suns aren't moving him...

[SpursforSix]

Don't buy that the Cavs wouldn't be interested in Green, he would actually be playable against GSW unlike half their team and it's not like he is on some long term bad contract, it expires after this season but they would have his bird rights.

Yeah...I agree with that. But they aren't assured of getting to the Finals without Kyrie and plus whoever the Spurs give them.

[cd021]

I rescind my desire to have Bron join the Spurs next season (independent of the fallout of the Kyrie drama). It's too distracting.

I absolutely still want Lebron, tbh

[tholdren]

Lebron's been a fucking bitch.
This. Lebum fans are idiots. Kobe was better

[tholdren]

I absolutely still want Lebron, tbh

Re...... tard

[kaji157]

LeBron seems to be doing this to fuck up a spurs trade for Irving, as te spurs probably have one of the best win now packages for Cleveland, and even better past December where they could get Patty and Danny.
If this is just because he wants to fuck up Irving he is a plain idiot.
If he does it because he wants to come here then it's another thing.
I just don't think there is even a slim chance that a guy with such hysterical personality comes here.

[tholdren]

Gilbert gonna Gilbert tbh.

You on the inside?

[BatManu20]

897906465960316929

[Captivus]

I gonna say this so I can quote myself next year: Lebron, even though he us leaving next year will prevent any trade he doesnt like...and at the end Cleveland will hate him again after he is gone. Lets get honest here...I get it that a LMA, Green and Murray is not the best they could get...but if I were a Cavs fan I rather have thos players after Lebron leaves than the same they have now without Lebron and Irving.
Get those matches ready Cavs Fans!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If James is gonna botch out again, the Cavs should but up and pull the trigger on the trade. LeDiva basically holding them hostage. Again.

[BillMc]

If James is gonna botch out again, the Cavs should but up and pull the trigger on the trade. LeDiva basically holding them hostage. Again.

Yep. LeBron will burn a bridge with ownership and management everywhere he's gone. Kind of like prime Shaq.

[Spurtacular]

Irving opting in for a 3rd year would cost him $9 million, it's a non option. 2 years at $18.8 and $20 million for Kyrie is a steal and two seasons should be enough time to sell him on the future off whatever team acquires him.

The Suns are have been wanting to move Bledsoe, swapping him for Kyrie is a an upgrade. Swapping Dudley for Bledsoe (who have similar contracts) is better for the Cavs because Dudley can actually defend and shoot unlike Shumpert and would be something that the Suns may offer to do to sweeten the deal. Bledsoe is an downgrade but is a much better defender and has a connection with Lebron.

The Suns would essentially really only be giving up a lottery pick for Irving, considering that they already have Chriss, Bender, Jackson, and Booker already on roster, all of whom were taken in the lottery in the past three drafts, that shouldn't be that big of an issue plus they would have Miami's 2018 pick (probably ends up being 16-20)

Cavs pick up a very good PG but not quite the player that Irving is, they get Dudley who is better than Shumpert, and add a probable top 10 pick (while also having their own pick in 2018)

Suns get the best player in the deal and can pair him with Booker while still having Jackson, Chriss, Bender, and all there picks (minus the 2018 pick) plus Miami's in 2020. The Suns would be in good position to add a third star given all of their assets going forward.

Cavs wipe their ass with that deal. Bledsoe for Irving is a no-go. Calling it now.

[Chillen]

LMA would be the perfect scapegoat for LBJ and Love if they fail to win it all. Add in Danny Green, Murray and it's a no brainer for Cavs so it must be LeBron keeping it from happening.

[Spurs4#5]

If it did happen which i feel like we won't get irving what would the rotation be like come January when parker comes back? Obviously he'd be the backup point guard but what about mills? Would he be put back into his shooting guard roll? If memory serves me correct when parker and mills were on the floor together they performed pretty well. But if that's the case does ginobili start at the 2 if we're getting rid of green, Aldridge, and murray someone has to taje greens spot. If not where does that leave ginobili as far as rotation goes. Not that he'd get more than 15-20 minutes.

[buttsR4rebounding]

LMA would be the perfect scapegoat for LBJ and Love if they fail to win it all. Add in Danny Green, Murray and it's a no brainer for Cavs so it must be LeBron keeping it from happening.

The Spurs would have to take back around $15 million more in salary. They would have to get a big back. Losing Green and LMA would kill our defense. Maybe we should throw in Pop and get Doug Moe back to coach.

[BatManu20]

Lol


898239953628540928

[Joseph Kony]

Lol


898239953628540928

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Fuck Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

[BatManu20]

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Fuck Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

The Cavs aren't making this trade anyways, but hypothetically I imagine they'd want at the very least to swap shitty Shumpert and his awful contract for a major upgrade in Danny and his very friendly contract.

[BatManu20]

Porn-stache.

898254125137182721

[BatManu20]

Not sure about that.

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[BatManu20]

898195785485103105

[BatManu20]

Stephen A. denounces reports from today that Kyrie and Lebron met in Miami.


898254259048685569

[raybies]

898195785485103105
lmao

[NameLess Scrub]

Is there a way for the Spurs to land Kyrie Irving without giving up LMA? Irving, Leonard, LMA, Gasol, Rudy, Manu could make some noise.

Have to second this.

Also, if LMA remembers how conditioning before a season feels like.

[cd021]

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Fuck Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

[Chillen]

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

That's a fine trade for both teams, it must be LeBron keeping it from happening. Add in a report that Wade may get bought out and can choose between Cavs, Spurs. If he goes to Cavs the trade with Spurs would be even better for Cavs.

[cd021]

That's a fine trade for both teams, it must be LeBron keeping it from happening. Add in a report that Wade may get bought out and can choose between Cavs, Spurs. If he goes to Cavs the trade with Spurs would be even better for Cavs.

Was actually thinking the same thing, it seems almost inevitable that Wade would go to Cleveland for the remainder of the season and maybe back to Miami if and when Lebron leaves.

Spurs could use some depth at center, despite us seemingly going small with Gay potentially starting at PF. I wouldn't be opposed to using the opened roster spot on bringing back David Lee

[cd98]

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

Tristan is such a liability on offense, I just don't see how that works.

[cd021]

Tristan is such a liability on offense, I just don't see how that works.

I didn't realize that he was that bad of a FT shooter (career 61%) but in that scenario I would expect:


Irving-Mills-Parker-Forbes
Gay-Manu-Paul-White
Leonard-Anderson-Blossomgame
Bertans-Anderson
Thompson-Gasol-Lavergne-Costello

he'd be the roll man with 4 shooters while also providing good defense and rebounding, and a solid screen setter.

I think it's a good fit, but Aldridge is a better center than Thompson would be but if it nets us Kyrie then I'd be fine with it.

[tonight...you]

I didn't realize that he was that bad of a FT shooter (career 61%) but in that scenario I would expect:


Irving-Mills-Parker-Forbes
Gay-Manu-Paul-White
Leonard-Anderson-Blossomgame
Bertans-Anderson
Thompson-Gasol-Lavergne-Costello

he'd be the roll man with 4 shooters while also providing good defense and rebounding, and a solid screen setter.

I think it's a good fit, but Aldridge is a better center than Thompson would be but if it nets us Kyrie then I'd be fine with it.
Sometimes you gotta mug Peter to pay Paul...

[tholdren]

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

Only idiots want irving. Hes got zero character, his bbiq is shit, and hes lazy on d. Stop posting

[TheDoctor]

I didn't realize that he was that bad of a FT shooter (career 61%) but in that scenario I would expect:


Irving-Mills-Parker-Forbes
Gay-Manu-Paul-White
Leonard-Anderson-Blossomgame
Bertans-Anderson
Thompson-Gasol-Lavergne-Costello

he'd be the roll man with 4 shooters while also providing good defense and rebounding, and a solid screen setter.

I think it's a good fit, but Aldridge is a better center than Thompson would be but if it nets us Kyrie then I'd be fine with it.

Bertants isn't a starter and won't be anytime soon mate. Not even in the worst team.

[UZER]

Bertants isn't a starter and won't be anytime soon mate. Not even in the worst team.

Plus, he's only in year one of Pops two year I won't play you when it matters system.

[cjw]

Tristan is such a liability on offense, I just don't see how that works.

Agree, I'd rather not take on Thompson while taking on other salary instead - particularly if the Spurs see anything in a guy like Shumpert beyond dead salary. You'd think in that trade, the Spurs wouldn't have to give up their 1st rounder and may actually get a 1st.

Irving-Thompson for Aldridge-Green-Murray-1st
becomes
Irving-Shumpert-1st for Aldridge-Green-Murray (feels like too much to give up - might want more back)

The firsts are low picks anyway. Unless Lebron leaves and it turns into a gem.

It leaves Spurs with no bigs beyond Gasol. But you get your guy, which makes Murray expendable. It sets you up for the following summer to have cap space ... Shumpert would be an expiring, so could be moved at a cost. Oh wait, the Spurs are gonna be paying a 38 year old $16mm.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bertants isn't a starter and won't be anytime soon mate. Not even in the worst team.
Pretty much this.

[Mnky]

Danny Lma and Parker are all very much likely gone next year for nothing. If you can turn that into a franchise player, you definitely take that.

chances on beating GSW might come down to a hanful of injury gambles and 40 yr olds playing like their 20.

its possible.. but..

[TheDoctor]

Danny Lma and Parker are all very much likely gone next year for nothing. If you can turn that into a franchise player, you definitely take that.

chances on beating GSW might come down to a hanful of injury gambles and 40 yr olds playing like their 20.

its possible.. but..

Spurs aren't trading HoTS. Only reason is if he plants his seeds on Kawhi's gf.

[cd98]

Danny Lma and Parker are all very much likely gone next year for nothing. If you can turn that into a franchise player, you definitely take that.

chances on beating GSW might come down to a hanful of injury gambles and 40 yr olds playing like their 20.

its possible.. but..

Damn I wish Billy King was still a GM. We could rape him like Ainge did in those Garnet/Pierce trades.

[DAF86]

897423863805509634

Without James beyond next season, though, the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Tony Parker and Danny Green hold no appeal.

As oppossed as if they were planning for the future where those assets would have appeal????

[DAF86]

898195785485103105

Weren't raps supposed to rhyme?

[cd021]

Agree, I'd rather not take on Thompson while taking on other salary instead - particularly if the Spurs see anything in a guy like Shumpert beyond dead salary. You'd think in that trade, the Spurs wouldn't have to give up their 1st rounder and may actually get a 1st.

Irving-Thompson for Aldridge-Green-Murray-1st
becomes
Irving-Shumpert-1st for Aldridge-Green-Murray (feels like too much to give up - might want more back)

The firsts are low picks anyway. Unless Lebron leaves and it turns into a gem.

It leaves Spurs with no bigs beyond Gasol. But you get your guy, which makes Murray expendable. It sets you up for the following summer to have cap space ... Shumpert would be an expiring, so could be moved at a cost. Oh wait, the Spurs are gonna be paying a 38 year old $16mm.

Thompson is waaay better than Shumpert and actually has NBA skills (his best is defense- post defense, some switchablity etc.- and rebounding- especially offensive rebounding)

I'd much rather see Thompson in a trade and I would think that the Spurs giving up a 1st would be non negotiable to the Cavs.

Green and LMA help Cleveland win now, Murray and adding a second 2018 first could help them in the future while also possibly clearing out some long term salary.

[sasaint]

Shumpert will never play for the Spurs.

If the Spurs deal LMA, it is imperative to acquire another big, and TThompson would be a very good get under the circumstances. Hands down a better deal than Shumpert.

But, in the final analysis, Kyrie ain't coming here.

[Leetonidas]

It probably won't happen. But they really should just do Green/LMA/Murray for Irving/Thompson trade. Cavs aren't winning shit ever again so they might as well double down for next season and get some decent pieces to win now while simultaneously strengthening a team in the West against GS

[tbdog]

Thompson is waaay better than Shumpert and actually has NBA skills (his best is defense- post defense, some switchablity etc.- and rebounding- especially offensive rebounding)

I'd much rather see Thompson in a trade and I would think that the Spurs giving up a 1st would be non negotiable to the Cavs.

Green and LMA help Cleveland win now, Murray and adding a second 2018 first could help them in the future while also possibly clearing out some long term salary.

We won't have a starting calibre SG though. And I am unsure how well Irving and Mills could play together. Manu and Paul are old or too new. But Wade could start if he wanted that role?

[cd021]

We won't have a starting calibre SG though. And I am unsure how well Irving and Mills could play together. Manu and Paul are old or too new. But Wade could start if he wanted that role?

Irving-Gay-Leonard-Anderson-Thompson would probably end up being the starting lineup.

Manu may end up having to play the 3 again and backup Kawhi.

Mills-White/Paul-Manu-Bertans-Gasol might be the bench in that scenario

Wade probably won't be brought up until after the season starts and would probably join Cleveland for the season before returning to Miami for the remainder of his career.

[tbdog]

Irving-Gay-Leonard-Anderson-Thompson would probably end up being the starting lineup.

Manu may end up having to play the 3 again and backup Kawhi.

Mills-White/Paul-Manu-Bertans-Gasol might be the bench in that scenario

Wade probably won't be brought up until after the season starts and would probably join Cleveland for the season before returning to Miami for the remainder of his career.

Playing Gay at SG is a hard sell. He is more of a hybrid forward these days. And coming back from injury surely reduces his quickness. I agree on Wade. But Spurs should be third favourite. here.

[cd021]

Playing Gay at SG is a hard sell. He is more of a hybrid forward these days. And coming back from injury surely reduces his quickness. I agree on Wade. But Spurs should be third favourite. here.

It's nominal really; I only slotted Gay as the 2 because Manu plays around 18 mpg and would be able to keep that role and play that many minutes behind Gay in whatever wing spot Gay would start at. Leonard will likely play at least 34 minutes a night, in that scenario maybe mostly as a SG with Paul or White being in position to earn some regular season minutes there at the back up 2.

[Poolboy5623]

So now Wade is going to stick it to Lebron and sign with the team the Cavs trade Kyrie to? Seriously, where do you guys come up with this stuff??

[Ice009]

So now Wade is going to stick it to Lebron and sign with the team the Cavs trade Kyrie to? Seriously, where do you guys come up with this stuff??

Yeah, that's a legit point. However, would you guys go after Wade if the Spurs can't swing a trade for Kyrie. I would like Wade as the starting 2 guard if we don't get Kyrie.

[Poolboy5623]

The Spurs roster is set. Maybe LMA gets dealt before the deadline, if he's playing well, but if that's the case keep him for the rest of the season. Wade isn't coming and they surely aren't acquiring Kyrie.

[Phenomanul]

The Spurs roster is set. Maybe LMA gets dealt before the deadline, if he's playing well, but if that's the case keep him for the rest of the season. Wade isn't coming and they surely aren't acquiring Kyrie.

I can't make up my mind about whether or not the longer this whole drama is drawn out the more likely they are of acquiring Kyrie.

[Dex]

This thread was fun up to about page 5, but the fact that it's still going is just silliness.

[ducks]

what else do you want to talk about

[Poolboy5623]

I can't make up my mind about whether or not the longer this whole drama is drawn out the more likely they are of acquiring Kyrie.

do you think the cavs are having that hard of a time trying to decide if they should take the Spurs offer? They don't have anything the Cavs want. Not only that but it was said the weren't going to blow up the team for CP3..but now they will for Kyrie? Cmon guys...

[Poolboy5623]

what else do you want to talk about

something realistic involving the Spurs...

[Dex]

what else do you want to talk about

Is a grilled cheese still a grilled cheese if it has meat?

[tonight...you]

Is a grilled cheese still a grilled cheese if it has meat?
I don't know, but I want one!

[cd021]

Is a grilled cheese still a grilled cheese if it has meat?

Fuck no.

grilled cheese can have only two things, bread and cheese tbh

[Avitus1]

Is a grilled cheese still a grilled cheese if it has meat?


I think at that point it's considered a melt.

[Phenomanul]

do you think the cavs are having that hard of a time trying to decide if they should take the Spurs offer? They don't have anything the Cavs want. Not only that but it was said the weren't going to blow up the team for CP3..but now they will for Kyrie? Cmon guys...

Well... that may have something to do with the fact that
Chris Paul is 32 years old. (disappears against the Warriors)
Kyrie Irving is 25 years old. (has proven to be a clutch player against the Warriors)

[Poolboy5623]

Well... that may have something to do with the fact that
Chris Paul is 32 years old. (disappears against the Warriors)
Kyrie Irving is 25 years old. (has proven to be a clutch player against the Warriors)

he hit 1 big shot against the Warriors..

[Phenomanul]

he hit 1 big shot against the Warriors..

That's such a reductionist view.... it was more than that...

He's had multiple 30+ point and 40+ point games against them over the course of the last three years...

[tonight...you]

he hit 1 big shot against the Warriors..
Ha ha ha ha! You don't watch basketball.

[KDKSpurs24]

That's such a reductionist view.... it was more than that...

He's had multiple 30+ point and 40+ point games against them over the course of the last three years...
He also dropped 57 and drained that big shot on us. But this guy saying "1 big shot against the warriors" when the shot came at the biggest moment the NBA has to offer. Game 7 NBA finals.

[Dex]

I think at that point it's considered a melt.

So if I add bacon to a grilled cheese, it's now a melt?

[TheRemix]

he hit 1 big shot against the Warriors..

Which one? The christmas game or the game where the cavs won it all?

[tonight...you]

So if I add bacon to a grilled cheese, it's now a melt?
Mmmm... hungry.

[benefactor]

I think at that point it's considered a melt.
Correct

[benefactor]

This thread was fun up to about page 5, but the fact that it's still going is just silliness.
It's the upstairs offseason at ST. You expected a different outcome?

[tonight...you]

It's the upstairs offseason at ST. You expected a different outcome?
You still in A-Town, big dog?

[ducks]

something realistic involving the Spurs...

and lots here did not think trump had a realistic shot at being the PRESIDENT OF THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

[Mr. Body]

and lots here did not think trump had a realistic shot at being the PRESIDENT OF THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

If only the Cavs were as unbelievably stupid as Republican voters.

[ducks]

If only the Cavs were as unbelievably stupid as Republican voters.

look at the contracts they signed
you think they are smart? trying to keep james happy

[ducks]

If only the Cavs were as unbelievably stupid as Republican voters.

what did the former president get done besides health care that is failing even democrats admit it is?
what the hell did the former president do for the blacks?
he sure as hell did not do anything for them they would not go out and vote for clinton

[ducks]

oh I guess the former president gave billions away to iran YEAH for the taxpapers!

[Joseph Kony]

shut the fuck ducks you brain dead retard, take that trump slurping back to the political forum

[ducks]

Cavs have so many bad contract if cavs were smart they would trade james and keep irving
reports are james is going to leave anyhow
I am sure gs would try to get involved :downspin:

[ducks]

shut the fuck ducks you brain dead retard, take that trump slurping back to the political forum

and who the hell do you think you are?
your team says seattle supersonics
they do not exist I think you should move on!
Durant sure has:lol:lol:lmao:rollin

[tonight...you]

and lots here did not think trump had a realistic shot at being the PRESIDENT OF THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!
You mean the guy who has had to fire almost every person he originally appointed for jobs, upon being sworn in? And some of those replacements also had to be replaced... embarrassingly?
Great leader of the greatest country in the world.

[ducks]

better then the past several
if you get someone and they are not working out like in business you move on
he has the balls to do that and get the blowback but he is doing the best for the nation

[tonight...you]

better then the past several
if you get someone and they are not working out like in business you move on
he has the balls to do that and get the blowback but he is doing the best for the nation
No bud... the selections were wrong from the start.
Say you want to start a business and you have everything going for you. Something established, pretty much working and not going away:

You gon' eff that up with amateur selections at every single point of impact? Amateur selections that demand replacement?

This guy has had months of a majority House and Senate and has been able to get nothing done of consequence.

That's the leader you want? A guy who can't get anything done because he keeps tripping over his own feet?

Mike Pence would have gotten shit put through. You should hate Trump, if you're a real conservative.

[benefactor]

You still in A-Town, big dog?
I'm in ETX, but I'm coming down for the home opener Labor Day weekend

[ducks]

http://www.martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/
List of Obama Failures- Updated and Getting Worse By the Day!

[tonight...you]

I'm in ETX, but I'm coming down for the home opener Labor Day weekend
ETX... El effing Paso? Dude... I'm here. Live in the Franklin Mountains yo. Time to make panties drop.

[tonight...you]

http://www.martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/
List of Obama Failures- Updated and Getting Worse By the Day!
C'mon man. Talk about your boy, not the past. Talk about the effing present and how this goob is wasting your dream as you praise him.

[tholdren]

This thread sucks

[tonight...you]

This thread sucks
As do you. Fuck off punk.

[benefactor]

ETX... El effing Paso? Dude... I'm here. Live in the Franklin Mountains yo. Time to make panties drop.
East Texas. I'm relocating down near ATown next year though.

[tonight...you]

East Texas. I'm relocating down near ATown next year though.
Right on. Ain't nobody interesting down here in The Pass...

[lmbebo]

79912!

[tonight...you]

79912!
Hells yeah baby! Word! 79910 Baby!

[gospursgojas]

Hell yes! Nothing will get us to our 100 page goal faster than some Donald Trump talk.

I personally like season 2 of his reality show the best. Are there any other Trump topics you guys wanna talk about?

[cd021]

If only the Cavs were as unbelievably stupid as Republican voters.

If that were true then we would've had Kyrie by now for Green, Anderson and Forbes + plus a protected second tbh.

Unfortunately the Cavs seem to pass that low bar.:lol

[ducks]

This thread sucks

That is what Clinton interns did

[Mikeanaro]

C'mon man. Talk about your boy, not the past. Talk about the effing present and how this goob is wasting your dream as you praise him.
Not the past? it seems you never do some self criticism, specially after Obama´s 8 years when there is a lot to criticize.

[Budkin]

http://www.martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/
List of Obama Failures- Updated and Getting Worse By the Day!

Keep all the political shit out of here. Get enough of that on Facebook.

[KDKSpurs24]

Keep all the political shit out of here. Get enough of that on Facebook.

[cd021]

Hard to say what's worse, people defending Trump or people bringing Politics in a thread about Kyrie

Probably the former, but still...

[BD24]

Leave it to a fucking trump supporter to ruin a thread with his bullshit

[Leetonidas]

Lol why am I not surprised the dumbest mentally challenged poster on the forum is a vehement trump supporter :lol

[.G.]

Was at Mamacitas the other night and I saw this old ass frijolerow niggz wearing a trump cap + t-shirt :lol

I'm like, niggz, I got two words for ya:

White. Ethnostate.

100% certain he was a veteran who thought just that because he served his country he gets to be on the "gets to stay in America" side of thangs :lol

[tonight...you]

Not the past? it seems you never do some self criticism, specially after Obama´s 8 years when there is a lot to criticize.
Irrelevant. I never liked Obama and his time in office. I'm talking about NOW.

[Dex]

Keep all the political shit out of here. Get enough of that on Facebook.

So much this. I've had to block so many friends from my feed because of their constant jabber-jawing...on both sides, tbh.

Would be nice to go a day without having to hear about Trump's bullshit.

[Dex]

Let's push this shit to 100.

What is the correct way to eat a hamburger?

I say lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, ketchup, mustard. A good shot of chili never hurts either.