Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[UZER]

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Steph is a straight up douche. The fact that he's sold to the public as some humble wholesome loveable guy is ridiculous. He's an arrogant ahole.

[TheGreatYacht]

Steph is a straight up douche. The fact that he's sold to the public as some humble wholesome loveable guy is ridiculous. He's an arrogant ahole.
Curry is the complete opposite of humble :lol he's just sold as that because he looks like a light skin dyke and is a big time bible humper.

Throws mouthpieces at fans, takes off before the shot falls, shimmies down the court, exchanges mouthpieces with Klay without hands (word to hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609)), etc

[BatManu20]

Steph is a straight up douche. The fact that he's sold to the public as some humble wholesome loveable guy is ridiculous. He's an arrogant ahole.

I don't hate Steph. But he's definitely judged differently bc he's light-skinned w/ a baby-face, no tats, and comes from a rich family, tbh.

[mookie2001]

Hanga ROFLROFL

[TimDunkem]

Hanga ROFLROFL
I know, right?

"As good of an offer as the Cavs are going to get!!! :drunk"

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

That bum Adam Hanga :lol swear some of you idiots overhype these gay euros so bad, you almost had me thinking Bertans was good before I saw him play....

Just another reason draft and stashes are a waste of everyone's time. 85% chance they'll be busts, 10% chance the Spurs will never bring them over due to $$$ issues, 5% chance they'll be average role players.

[marinoman]

I really want kyrie too, he's really young which is why I would want him more than cp3. And people talk about his D, well let's take a look at other top pgs

1. Steph
2. Westbrook
3. Cp3
4. Irving
5. Harden (if you consider him a pg)
6. Wall
7. Lillard
8. Conely
9. Isaiah
10. Choke artist Lowry
Other than cp3 (who hasn't played much in the playoffs the last 2 years and is what 34?) who are these great pgs that are good on defense
Almost forgot giannis, yea he's legit awesome

But with all that said unless cavs fall in love with "The missing piece" hanga, it's a long shot

[cd98]

That bum Adam Hanga :lol swear some of you idiots overhype these gay euros so bad, you almost had me thinking Bertans was good before I saw him play....

Just another reason draft and stashes are a waste of everyone's time. 85% chance they'll be busts, 10% chance the Spurs will never bring them over due to $$$ issues, 5% chance they'll be average role players.

Spurs chose a 40 year old shooting guard over Hanga. Yep, people overrated the guy.

[Chillen]

Steph is a straight up douche. The fact that he's sold to the public as some humble wholesome loveable guy is ridiculous. He's an arrogant ahole.

Yeah make fun of the player on the team you just beat when a former league MVP joined your 73-9 win team, who got the easier road to the championship.

[lilbthebasedgod]

I really want kyrie too, he's really young which is why I would want him more than cp3. And people talk about his D, well let's take a look at other top pgs

1. Steph
2. Westbrook
3. Cp3
4. Irving
5. Harden (if you consider him a pg)
6. Wall
7. Lillard
8. Conely
9. Isaiah
10. Choke artist Lowry
Other than cp3 (who hasn't played much in the playoffs the last 2 years and is what 34?) who are these great pgs that are good on defense
Almost forgot giannis, yea he's legit awesome

But with all that said unless cavs fall in love with "The missing piece" hanga, it's a long shot
Harden and Curry are pretty good on defense also several aren't really bad on that list. The only one I'd completey refuse is Isaiah. I'd agree though. PG defensive liabilities are easy to work around.

[Stabula]

Harden and Curry are pretty good on defense?! Lmao what world are we in. Also Curry is NOT the best PG in the game. Sometimes he gets hot and makes silly shots but he's massively overrated and always shrinks against the best teams in the playoffs.

[lebomb]

Curry is the best long range shooter in the game. That's it.

[RD2191]

Curry is the best long range shooter in the game. That's it.

The most undeserved MVP's since Nash imo. And even then I'd still tale Nash over Curry.

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ca0d6296-a35d-3fe9-8dbf-689d705a3fd8/report%3A-cavaliers-would-pull.html

[cd021]

I really want kyrie too, he's really young which is why I would want him more than cp3. And people talk about his D, well let's take a look at other top pgs

1. Steph
2. Westbrook
3. Cp3
4. Irving
5. Harden (if you consider him a pg)
6. Wall
7. Lillard
8. Conely
9. Isaiah
10. Choke artist Lowry
Other than cp3 (who hasn't played much in the playoffs the last 2 years and is what 34?) who are these great pgs that are good on defense
Almost forgot giannis, yea he's legit awesome

But with all that said unless cavs fall in love with "The missing piece" hanga, it's a long shot

Not a perfect stat for PG's but defensive rtgs last season:

Defensive Rtg:

Chris Paul-106
John Wall-108
Mike Conley-108
Kyrie Irving-112
Isaiah Thomas-112
Damian Lillard-113

[Spur|n|Austin]

Harden and Curry are pretty good on defense

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[Chinook]

Wall is way better than Irving.

[noles1983]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ca0d6296-a35d-3fe9-8dbf-689d705a3fd8/report%3A-cavaliers-would-pull.html

Must be nice to have recent draft picks other teams value :lol

[ace3g]

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[Keepin' it real]

What is Kyrie's jersey number with the Spurs? Seriously, tbh.

[poop]

Page 60!!! First!!!

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wall is way better than Irving.

[tholdren]

Yes. Not even close

[8FOR!3]

What is Kyrie's jersey number with the Spurs? Seriously, tbh.

Good question. Doubt it's 23 though, no way we unretire Kevin Martin's # this soon. He hasn't even been inducted into the HOF yet.

[TheDoctor]

What is Kyrie's jersey number with the Spurs? Seriously, tbh.
2*2 = 4.

Thank you very much 2014 LDN and sayonara.

[TheDoctor]

Good question. Doubt it's 23 though, no way we unretire Kevin Martin's # this soon. He hasn't even been inducted into the HOF yet.

That was NBA Champion Austin Daye's number. Respect where it's due tbh.

[pookenstein]

Also #23 is reserved for Lebron next year...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs chose a 40 year old shooting guard over Hanga. Yep, people overrated the guy.

Not true - they chose Rudy Gay over Hanga. Manu is going to be signed using bird rights.

[hooperflash]

What is Kyrie's jersey number with the Spurs? Seriously, tbh.
#21

[BatManu20]

Also #23 is reserved for Lebron next year...

Lebron is LA bound. And he certainly wouldn't come here if we somehow landed Kyrie :lol

[BatManu20]

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[LakerHater]

What is Kyrie's jersey number with the Spurs? Seriously, tbh.
6

[BatManu20]

6

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/avery_ceremony_071222_1200.jpg

[LakerHater]

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/avery_ceremony_071222_1200.jpg
Yup, take that shit down!

[Chillen]

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They had a reason to burn the jerseys before when LeBron left after winning no championships. However in this case the fans have zero reason to burn a jersey of a player that helped your team win an NBA championship. Donate it to goodwill, put on curb or sell it, burning it is highly disrespectful, hateful, wasteful and stupid. See how this all plays out, but without Irving no 2016 NBA title. I would expect more of this to come if they don't trade him. To the fan that did that it's your property your stuff, but you should be ashamed burning a jersey of a player that helped your team win an NBA title, show some respect!

[cutewizard]

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Spurs fans gonna rock and roll if ever this happens, lo,

Some are pro, some are anti Irving

[cutewizard]

If Kyrie comes here, will Lebron stil want to come here?

[cutewizard]

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We have to admit, Kyrie looks cool in a Spurs uniform!

[Mal]

If Kyrie comes here, will Lebron stil want to come here?

Where you get that "LeBron wants to come to SA" from ?

[cutewizard]

Where you get that "LeBron wants to come to SA" from ?

Just speculating Sir, foolish me

[Seventyniner]

Even jersey number 2! is already taken.

https://s16-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F236x%2Ff6%2Fcb%2F4a%2Ff6cb4abeee2 6e517905e902741a15317--american-black-bear-austin-mahone.jpg&sp=82d5291b9d3078554bdc3c74affea40e

We need a photoshop of Irving in a 2? jersey. Put it beside Kawhi and the Coyote.

[look_at_g_shred]

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[Seventyniner]

I find it strange that Mills hasn't signed yet. Are the Spurs possibly trying to talk him into being included in a sign-and-trade?

[pad300]

I find it strange that Mills hasn't signed yet. Are the Spurs possibly trying to talk him into being included in a sign-and-trade?

How do you know if a deal hasn't been signed yet? Does the NBA publish them somewhere? I just got out of the Pau Gasol resigning thread, and new reports from twitter are saying the 3ed year is fully unguaranteed. Is the Pau deal signed off yet?

[TheDoctor]

I find it strange that Mills hasn't signed yet. Are the Spurs possibly trying to talk him into being included in a sign-and-trade?
He aint got time for that. He's pulling a Borris getting fat and publishing children books.

[Chinook]

How do you know if a deal hasn't been signed yet? Does the NBA publish them somewhere? I just got out of the Pau Gasol resigning thread, and new reports from twitter are saying the 3ed year is fully unguaranteed. Is the Pau deal signed off yet?

The NBA and NFL are different in this regard. The NFLPA/NFL publishes every contract once it's signed and submitted to the league. The NBPA/NBA does not, I believe. What we get from guys like Woj is just what people tell them; the Spurs never officially acknowledge contract terms.

[Big Empty]

If the Spurs are still in the hunt for Kyrie maybe we can unload Patty in the trade and hold onto LaSharkus for one more season. We have plenty of guards that can run the back up point.

[BatManu20]

If the Spurs are still in the hunt for Kyrie maybe we can unload Patty in the trade and hold onto LaSharkus for one more season. We have plenty of guards that can run the back up point.

Again, for the 10th time, the Spurs cannot trade Patty Mills until December since he was just signed. And even if they could, they wouldn't. They signed him to a 4-year deal for a reason.

[TimDunkem]

:vomit:

[Chinook]

Again, for the 10th time, the Spurs cannot trade Patty Mills until December since he was just signed. And even if they could, they wouldn't. They signed him to a 4-year deal for a reason.

Can't trade him until January 15 because of the raise they gave him.

[Ron Swanson]

Won't stop people from including Patty in trade scenarios. :lol

[Seventyniner]

Won't stop people from including Patty in trade scenarios. :lol

I thought I read something specifically saying that Patty hasn't signed yet. That's where this latest round started.

[TimDunkem]

Patty is too important to our HEB commercials to be traded, people.

[ducks]

patty and gasol can not be traded once signed tell dec 15

[Hoops Czar]

I thought I read something specifically saying that Patty hasn't signed yet. That's where this latest round started.
What part of the word "loyalty" do you not understand?

[BatManu20]

Heard this guy's sources are sit but who knows. Still think NYC really wants Kyrie and is willing to give up pick for him so we'll see.

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[Kindergarten Cop]

Heard this guy's sources are sit but who knows. Still think NYC really wants Kyrie and is willing to give up pick for him so we'll see.

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I thought it was already reported that Melo would no longer waive his NTC in a deal to the Cavs because of the uncertainty of LeBron's FA next year.

[BatManu20]

I thought it was already reported that Melo would no longer waive his NTC in a deal to the Cavs because of the uncertainty of LeBron's FA next year.

Very possible. His tweet doesn't really say anything. Knicks want Melo to waive it obv but right now they're stuck.

[YGWHI]

Minny doesn't want to give Wiggins for Irving, in fact they want to give the Canadian guy an extension...Melo still has his veto-clause...There aren't many others scenarios for Cavs.

What's about the Spurs, Altman?

[pookenstein]

Lebron is LA bound. And he certainly wouldn't come here if we somehow landed Kyrie :lol

Thought it was obvious, but seems like I should have used the blue font...

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Lebron is LA bound. And he certainly wouldn't come here if we somehow landed Kyrie :lol

This is actually huge CIA Lebron game - "you go first Kyrie and I'll follow you to the Spurs next year. Right now in order to go on cheap just make sure there's a rumor you don't want to play with me anymore"... it's a plan!

[TimDunkem]

^What are you smoking? I want some.

[kaji157]

This is actually huge CIA Lebron game - "you go first Kyrie and I'll follow you to the Spurs next year. Right now in order to go on cheap just make sure there's a rumor you don't want to play with me anymore"... it's a plan!

That makes sense!

[vander]

I know, right?

"As good of an offer as the Cavs are going to get!!! :drunk"

:lmao :lmao :lmao
Hanga was just to get the salaries to match, I didn't know he already re-signed with his current club.

What is the best offer Cleveland has gotten so far? It doesn't seem to me like anyone is willing to give up much for Irving.

[illusioNtEk]

Since Patty is not able to be traded just yet I think we might end up trading him along with Murray, LMA and Green mid way thru the season.

[spurs10]

Since Patty is not able to be traded just yet I think we might end up trading him along with Murray, LMA and Green mid way thru the season.
The idea of trading most of our starters and throwing Murray in there doesn't sound like it will happen. Depending on what we get back anything can happen though and it will all be about who makes Kawhi better.

[illusioNtEk]

The idea of trading most of our starters and throwing Murray in there doesn't sound like it will happen. Depending on what we get back anything can happen though and it will all be about who makes Kawhi better.

I believe the Spurs have the best offer Cavs can take at this point. Cavs will also try very hard to make Lebron happy and finish his career there. LeBron will always have good talent with him and alone can take the East with ease for the following years to come. It's just a matter of getting over the hump in the Finals where he will have many chances before he finishes his career.. Even at 32/33 he is still the best player in the NBA.

I assume Spurs are doing everything they can to get Kyrie Irving and willing to give up huge assets. I'm sure Spurs staff is getting input from KL even tho most don't think otherwise.

If all this fails we should still be happy as most tend to forget we made it to the Western Conference Finales last year and with the addition of Rudy Gay we are destined to return and give GS another run for there money. LMA is on a contract year so you know he will put more effort in the court.

Whatever the outcome of this Trade talk with KI Spurs are in good shape non the less.... Idiot spurs fans think its the worst offseason in history are just blind and drunk.

[poop]

Pop: " kyrie hasnt gotten over himself. We are sticking with 40 and 38 yr olds and giving 50 million to our backup pg"

[illusioNtEk]

Pop: " kyrie hasnt gotten over himself. We are sticking with 40 and 38 yr olds and giving 50 million to our backup pg"

Patty is a fast shooter and when open can cause some damage.... his style of play is perfect for KL... we cannot lose him and thus we offered him a good amount of money to stay with the spurs long term.

Stop acting like its a bad signing and hope you and others can have trust in the spurs... how many fucking times must RC and POP prove to you dumb fucks

[spurs10]

I believe the Spurs have the best offer Cavs can take at this point. Cavs will also try very hard to make Lebron happy and finish his career there. LeBron will always have good talent with him and alone can take the East with ease for the following years to come. It's just a matter of getting over the hump in the Finals where he will have many chances before he finishes his career.. Even at 32/33 he is still the best player in the NBA.

I assume Spurs are doing everything they can to get Kyrie Irving and willing to give up huge assets. I'm sure Spurs staff is getting input from KL even tho most don't think otherwise.

If all this fails we should still be happy as most tend to forget we made it to the Western Conference Finales last year and with the addition of Rudy Gay we are destined to return and give GS another run for there money. LMA is on a contract year so you know he will put more effort in the court.

Whatever the outcome of this Trade talk with KI Spurs are in good shape non the less.... Idiot spurs fans think its the worst offseason in history are just blind and drunk.
I share your thoughts. I think we will and should go after Kyrie, but what the Cavs will do no one knows. I actually think Lebron will like the idea of Bledsoe, Green, and spare parts, if we could get enough to the Suns.

All that aside we will have a pretty damn good lineup with Patty/ Green/ Kawhi/ Gay/ LMA and we get to enjoy Manu Ginobili for another season. I've got my tickets for the season and the playoffs!
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[NameLess Scrub]

Why would Lebron come? He can manipulate Cleveland at will and gets to the Finals every year in the East. Only washed up Lebron would come.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[cd98]

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I believe it. I think they have to wait until Aug. 5 or so to trade Josh Jackson. If Suns offer Jackson, Bledsoe, and a draft pick, the Spurs definitely can't beat that offer.

[ginobilized]

Damn, Phoenix beats us again. Last time was 2010.
Seems like the best deal for Cleveland and the King seems to have signed off on it.

I'm not Sold on the idea that Kyrie is the answer, so it's not a loss per se. If this happens the West will be even more competitive. Spurs better be ready to ball.

[Atl Spur]

We might have a Jason Kidd vs Tony Parker situation again...... I'm interested to see how this unfolds.

[baseline bum]

Hanga was just to get the salaries to match, I didn't know he already re-signed with his current club.

What is the best offer Cleveland has gotten so far? It doesn't seem to me like anyone is willing to give up much for Irving.

They have been offered Bledsoe, which beats Green + Murray. They have been offered Melo, which beats that also.

[rjv]

it's not always what is offered on just value alone. it's also what is offered that fits a teams need. i have read previous articles that indicated the cavs do not want bledsoe because he does not fit their needs. but personally, i am tepid to irving anyway. for all those that wanted to include LMA because they say he disappears without leonard, the same can be said of kyrie. his value is pedestrian when lebron is not in the lineup.

[Ice009]

Man, if they get Josh Jackson too, then they win that trade IMO. I can't believe Phoenix would offer him up. Kyrie's very good/great at one thing, but not much else. I wouldn't give up Josh Jackson. If the Spurs were somehow able to pull off a trade to get him on draft night, I wouldn't trade him in any package for Kyrie at all. I hope the Suns aren't stupid enough to do that. Also, someone mentioned he can be traded Aug. 5th, why is it so early? Is there a different rule for drafted players and free agents on how long after they sign that they can be traded?


it's not always what is offered on just value alone. it's also what is offered that fits a teams need. i have read previous articles that indicated the cavs do not want bledsoe because he does not fit their needs. but personally, i am tepid to irving anyway. for all those that wanted to include LMA because they say he disappears without leonard, the same can be said of kyrie. his value is pedestrian when lebron is not in the lineup.

Very true. That's a great point. I remember continuously being amazed at how bad the Cavs were the past couple of seasons when Lebron wasn't in the lineup. I don't think Lebron should let that out into the public, but when I did read/hear him say it, I thought back to those games where he took the night off and more often than not, they got smashed., so I felt he did have a little bit of justification in saying that. He also probably wanted to rest more during the season and was pissed of to see how poorly they did without him, so because of that he probably felt he couldn't take many rest games because of it. I do understand where he came from with those comments, but I just don't think it was something that should have been out in the public as it wouldn't have helped with the morale of the locker room and his teammates' egos.

[ducks]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid

[Ice009]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid

I think they're complete idiots if they trade Josh Jackson, but if it's Booker instead, I think that's not as bad, not great, but not as bad.

[Big Empty]

The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

[Big Empty]

The Cavs should just go ahead and trade us LeBron and keep that young team together.

[TheDoctor]

The Cavs should just go ahead and trade us LeBron and keep that young team together.

[coachmac87]

Only one thing has been clear....the media has no fucking clue where Kyrie is going to end up lol

[SpursBig3s]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th


EDIT: Fake News. They took down their post on facebook as far as I can tell. :lol

[SpursforSix]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th

Please let it include Parker.

[cd98]

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[cd021]

if the suns trade brooker and josh they are stupid


I think they're complete idiots if they trade Josh Jackson, but if it's Booker instead, I think that's not as bad, not great, but not as bad.


The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

Unless I missed more recent news it would probably be Bledsoe, Miami 2018 1st rounder ( probably in the 16-20 range) and maybe even PHX's own 2018 pick (probably a top 10 pick even with Kyrie on the Suns) . It sounded pretty clear that Jackson and Booker won't be in the trade .

[TheDoctor]

There is a post on Facebook going around saying "news circulating around that the San Antonio Spurs are pushing an offer that features 2 veteran guards for Kyrie Irving." Patty and Danny. Which I guess is why Patty hasn't signed yet? it's on NBA News fb page.

I think it's fake. No way we sign Patty to gthat 4yr deal just to trade him, which can't be done until Dec. 15th


EDIT: Fake News. They took down their post on facebook as far as I can tell. :lol

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

[SpursforSix]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

So it must be Parker and Green.

[Chinook]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

That's true after he officially signs. If he hasn't signed yet, he can totally be S&T. However, Cleveland should be too far in the tax to receive a player in that type or transaction, so it's still moot.

[TheDoctor]

That's true after he officially signs. If he hasn't signed yet, he can totally be S&T. However, Cleveland should be too far in the tax to receive a player in that type or transaction, so it's still moot.
Thanks for clearing that up :tu

[cd021]

So it must be Parker and Green.

Parker's not getting traded and Cleveland wouldn't be interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury that may keep him out until February.

If a trade does down between CLE and SA it would almost certainly have to involve a 3rd team and include both Aldridge and Green

[bklynspursfan]

Parker's not getting traded and Cleveland wouldn't be interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury that may keep him out until February.

If a trade does down between CLE and SA it would almost certainly have to involve a 3rd team and include both Aldridge and Green

Idk why people still put TP in these trade scenarios.

[Spurs9]

The Suns should stay put unless its Booker Straight up and a draft pic.

No way I'm trading Booker or Jackson, anyone else is game though.

[Dunc n Dave]

And for the hundredth time in this thread, Patty can't be traded until January (125% salary raise).

I've heard it reported several times that December 15th was the first day newly signed players can be traded? So you are saying there is a rule that if a player gets a 125% raise from his last contract, he has to wait even longer to be traded?

[Chinook]

I've heard it reported several times that December 15th was the first day newly signed players can be traded? So you are saying there is a rule that if a player gets a 125% raise from his last contract, he has to wait even longer to be traded?

Yes

[poop]

Patty is a fast shooter and when open can cause some damage.... his style of play is perfect for KL... we cannot lose him and thus we offered him a good amount of money to stay with the spurs long term.

Stop acting like its a bad signing and hope you and others can have trust in the spurs... how many fucking times must RC and POP prove to you dumb fucks

I like mills. It wasnt entirely serious

[ducks]

I thought you liked poop

[palangi]

Thanks for clearing that up :tu

So much for the hundredth time.....ha ha

[TheDoctor]

So much for the hundredth time.....ha ha

After he officially signs yes

[cjw]

Cleveland wouldn't be interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury that may keep him out until February.

Agree they don't want Parker, but don't agree with this point otherwise. Have you not seen all the old hurt farts that GM Lebron has signed / kept his buddies employed on Dan Gilbert's dime?

[BillMc]

I wonder how Kyrie would like going from playing in The Finals every year to the bottom of the West most the time with the Suns?

The Satanic principle from Milton. "Better to rule in Hell, than serve in Heaven."

[spurs10]

I wonder how Kyrie would like going from playing in The Finals every year to the bottom of the West most the time with the Suns?

The Satanic principle from Milton. "Better to rule in Hell, than serve in Heaven." He will enjoy extremely long, sunny summer breaks.

[Spurs4#5]

What about a 4 team trade between the cavs, spurs, rockets, and knicks?

[sasaint]

What about a 4 team trade between the cavs, spurs, rockets, and knicks?

What about it? Have you one to propose?

[TheDoctor]

What about it? Have you one to propose?
:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Haven't seen this posted yet

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-carmelo-anthony-wants-trade-rockets-not-cavaliers-163448714.html

[NASpurs]

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/02/report-kyrie-irving-not-ready-to-commit-to-any-team-that-trades-for-him/amp/

Report: Kyrie Irving not ready to commit to any team that trades for him

[sasaint]

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/02/report-kyrie-irving-not-ready-to-commit-to-any-team-that-trades-for-him/amp/

Report: Kyrie Irving not ready to commit to any team that trades for him

HaHa! Kyrie is staying put.

[rjv]

HaHa! Kyrie is staying put. i don't infer that from this. this could just as easily be his message to teams that are not on his "list" that they should think twice before trading for him.

[Chinook]

i don't infer that from this. this could just as easily be his message to teams that are not on his "list" that they should think twice before trading for him.

Should be a message to all the folks on here to keep trying to trade the farm for him assuming he's going to be around for eight years.

[TheDoctor]

Should be a message to all the folks on here to keep trying to trade the farm for him assuming he's going to be around for eight years.

True :lol:hat

[look_at_g_shred]

Should be a message to all the folks on here to keep trying to trade the farm for him assuming he's going to be around for eight years.
If by farm you mean LMA+Green, i'd be willing to expend those two for two years of Irving tbh.

[rjv]

If by farm you mean LMA+Green, i'd be willing to expend those two for two years of Irving tbh. LMA and green is a pretty big chunk of change for a flat earther.

[BatManu20]

Then good luck getting what you want in return for him.

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[Joseph Kony]

>doesnt want to play on a team james wont commit to
>wont commit to any team who trades for him

lolwut

[Seventyniner]

He has two years left on his contract. Why would he commit now?

[TimDunkem]

Doesn't matter. Teams won't offer as much for a guy who won't commit now except for the Suns, apparently.

That's that. He's not coming here.

[LittleCriminal]

So by saying he won't commit to any team is actually his way of having a no trade clause?
He's already stated what team is on his preferred list.
Welcome to the Spurs KI!
Ps, is it OK to be drunk at noon?

[Chillen]

I wouldn't say Phoenix is a lock, the Spurs would probably still want Kyrie and can offer LMA, Green, Murray, picks. LeBron probably likes Bledsoe more than anything Spurs can offer so if he goes to Phoenix LeBron probably had something to do with it.

[BillMc]

He will enjoy extremely long, sunny summer breaks.
:lol

[BillMc]

LMA and green is a pretty big chunk of change for a flat earther.

I wonder if Kyrie's world maps have a "Here Be Dragons" region.:lol

[SpursforSix]

So, right now, the most likely scenario (assuming Parker isn't ever traded) is Mills for Irving.

[TheDoctor]

I wonder if Kyrie's world maps have a "Here Be Dragons" region.:lol

Hahahahaha :lol

[Leetonidas]

So, right now, the most likely scenario (assuming Parker isn't ever traded) is Mills for Irving.

Lolwat?

[SpursforSix]

Lolwat?

Word is that Spurs offered some kind of package involving a veteran guard. I've been told that Parker is off the table. So the most likely scenario is that Mills is traded for Irving. Remember that Mills hasn't signed yet. So he's on the table.

[rjv]

Word is that Spurs offered some kind of package involving a veteran guard. I've been told that Parker is off the table. So the most likely scenario is that Mills is traded for Irving. Remember that Mills hasn't signed yet. So he's on the table. could have been a shooting guard too, as in danny green.

[Leetonidas]

Word is that Spurs offered some kind of package involving a veteran guard. I've been told that Parker is off the table. So the most likely scenario is that Mills is traded for Irving. Remember that Mills hasn't signed yet. So he's on the table.

Mills cant be signed and traded to Cleveland because they're over the cap and in the tax. He also couldn't be traded if he signed with SA until December. So I don't think it would be the most likely offer tbh. Probably Green/Murray and a pick imo. Somehow I don't think spurs are trying to trade Aldridge as hard as others may think

[SpursforSix]

could have been a shooting guard too, as in danny green.

No...it's Mills.

[SpursforSix]

Mills cant be signed and traded to Cleveland because they're over the cap and in the tax. He also couldn't be traded if he signed with SA until December. So I don't think it would be the most likely offer tbh. Probably Green/Murray and a pick imo. Somehow I don't think spurs are trying to trade Aldridge as hard as others may think

Exactly. Mills with Cleveland makes the most sense. Cavs actually play more of the "beautiful game" than the Spurs right now. Which should lead to plenty of step in threes for Mills.

[BillMc]

Hahahahaha :lol
:toast

[TheDoctor]

Exactly. Mills with Cleveland makes the most sense. Cavs actually play more of the "beautiful game" than the Spurs right now. Which should lead to plenty of step in threes for Mills.
LMAO exactly what Leetonidas said tbh :tu

[SpursforSix]

LMAO exactly what Leetonidas said tbh :tu

Yep. The only fly in the ointment is whether Cavs feel like it's enough value for Kyrie. Which may drag LMA or Pau into the discussion. But if the Spurs can land Kyrie, I'm OK giving up Mills and Pau. Would like to see what LMA does in a contract year.
We'd probably need another big but I'd be willing to take that risk.

[SAGirl]

Word is that Spurs offered some kind of package involving a veteran guard. I've been told that Parker is off the table. So the most likely scenario is that Mills is traded for Irving. Remember that Mills hasn't signed yet. So he's on the table.
It had to be green. Mills was a FA and can't be traded for months.
I think the offer was modest: Green and a pick ... maybe Green and Murray or Green and White, but that's it. I doubt very much "the farm was offered".

[SpursforSix]

It had to be green. Mills was a FA and can't be traded for months.
I think the offer was modest: Green and a pick ... maybe Green and Murray or Green and White, but that's it. I doubt very much "the farm was offered".

That's a great point. Mills is the only player that makes sense in a trade for Kyrie. Maybe they have to sweeten it with Pau for Love as well.
I'm OK with that.

[Spur|n|Austin]

SpursforSix talking straight from the anus.

"I've been told" "Word is Spurs offered" :lol

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[Hoops Czar]

That's a great point. Mills is the only player that makes sense in a trade for Kyrie. Maybe they have to sweeten it with Pau for Love as well.
I'm OK with that.

:lmao

[Budkin]

SpursforSix talking straight from the anus.

"I've been told" "Word is Spurs offered" :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/jzBTniNjECNt6/giphy.gif

Love the Slater gif

[SpursforSix]

SpursforSix talking straight from the anus.

"I've been told" "Word is Spurs offered" :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/jzBTniNjECNt6/giphy.gif

Dude...it was earlier in this thread. Also, I have some sources that are in the know and not available to the general public.
You don't know how close PATFO were to signing Gilbert Arenas.

[xellos88330]

HaHa! Kyrie is staying put.

This could also be a maneuver to drive down the price of acquiring him via trade.

[look_at_g_shred]

No way Suns are giving away Jackson now.

[sasaint]

This could also be a maneuver to drive down the price of acquiring him via trade.

Sure; it could be. And that would be smart not to strip the team you are going to - if you plan to stay there.

[TD 21]

Should be a message to all the folks on here to keep trying to trade the farm for him assuming he's going to be around for eight years.

Like this is breaking news or a reason to proceed with caution. Of course he's not going to commit to a new situation beforehand, when he doesn't have to make a decision for 2 years.

It's about playing the odds though. For all his flaws, there is virtually no chance of Spurs or the majority of teams attaining a player as good or better anytime soon, so they can either pursue a trade to the fullest extent (even if it is virtually impossible to consummate) or nitpick damn near every player to death and wait on a unicorn . . . while increasing the odds of Leonard leaving in the process.

[cd021]

It had to be green. Mills was a FA and can't be traded for months.
I think the offer was modest: Green and a pick ... maybe Green and Murray or Green and White, but that's it. I doubt very much "the farm was offered".

Green and Murray won't work do to trade rules, Anderson would have to be added to make the money work.

Green
Murray
Anderson
2018 1st round pick

still an underwhelming return tbh. Miami and Phoenix could easily top that deal.

[SpursforSix]

Sure; it could be. And that would be smart not to strip the team you are going to - if you plan to stay there.

the second part gives Kyrie way too much brain credit.

I think he just wants to limit the pursuers to those he is interested in. I doubt he gives a fuck if it means the destination team losing a few players.
Do you really think....

"oh shit...I'm not going to get to play with Aldridge or Green?"

Those top shelf players have big egos and other than Kawhi leaving, I don't think Kyrie gives a fuck.

[cd021]

Mills cant be signed and traded to Cleveland because they're over the cap and in the tax. He also couldn't be traded if he signed with SA until December. So I don't think it would be the most likely offer tbh. Probably Green/Murray and a pick imo. Somehow I don't think spurs are trying to trade Aldridge as hard as others may think

To add on to that: Cleveland has $142 million in salary, the tax apron is $5 million over the luxury tax which would around $124 million.

IIRC if a team uses their MLE or acquires a player via S&T they are hard capped and can't exceed $124 million in payroll.

Mills couldn't be traded without some serious salary being offloaded by Cleveland, if he hasn't already been officially signed.

Also Green, Murray, and Anderson are the only non Parker, Kawhi, or Aldridge trade that works trade wise, I believe.

[SpursforSix]

To add on to that: Cleveland has $142 million in salary, the tax apron is $5 million over the luxury tax which would around $124 million.

IIRC if a team uses their MLE or acquires a player via S&T they are hard capped and can't exceed $124 million in payroll.

Mills couldn't be traded without some serious salary being offloaded by Cleveland, if he hasn't already been officially signed.

Also Green, Murray, and Anderson are the only non Parker, Kawhi, or Aldridge trade that works trade wise, I believe.

Exactly. Mills is the only priority asset that makes sense. So likely Mills plus Aldridge/Gasol for Kyrie plus big.

[dabom]

Spurs arent trading 2 starters.

[exstatic]

The Spurs shopped LaMarcus for a pick at draft time. I assure you, if they have an offer in, he's included. They seem to be done with him.

[SpursforSix]

Spurs arent trading 2 starters.

100%. It seems like the writing is on the wall for Green and LMA.

[tonight...you]

That's a great point. Mills is the only player that makes sense in a trade for Kyrie. Maybe they have to sweeten it with Pau for Love as well.
I'm OK with that.
Lol... I can dig this line of trolling, for sure.

[ducks]

100%. It seems like the writing is on the wall for Green and LMA.

spurs would trade those two and they are starting heck the let one of their starters walk (started over half the games)

[SPURt]

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[td4mvp21]

I'd rather keep Green and give up Aldridge. Green shows up when it matters.

[tonight...you]

https://i.imgflip.com/ssw3l.jpg
I want to believe in a flat earth! Does it include Hobbits and wizards?

[ace3g]

It might have been answered already, but is there any reason why Patty (and Manu) haven't officially signed their contracts?

[BatManu20]

No idea if this guy is legit for full of shit.

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[tholdren]

No idea if this guy is legit for full of shit.

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Thought he was thin?

[Chillen]

I'd rather keep Green and give up Aldridge. Green shows up when it matters.

Cavs aren't trading Kyrie to Spurs without Aldridge and Green included. Want talent got to give up talent.

[Chillen]

No idea if this guy is legit for full of shit.

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If he gets traded to Phoenix it's because LeBron likes the package better than the Spurs or any other team. Pretty sure Gilbert is giving LeBron a say in all this.

[UZER]

I wouldn't he surprised if LeBron is blocking the trade to SA.

He's like the hot chick that wants all the girls to like her even though she doesn't like them, and will tease guys just enough to keep them from liking her really cute friends.

LeBron doesn't want Pop to like his cute friend.

[tholdren]

If he gets traded to Phoenix it's because LeBron likes the package better than the Spurs or any other team. Pretty sure Gilbert is giving LeBron a say in all this.

Ledouche would never let the spurs get kyrie

[DesignatedT]

Aldridge, Green, Murray for Irving, Shumpert is my guess on whats been offered.

Rumors have been swirling all off-season about the Spurs willingness to part with LA and Green, even long before the Irving news. Also, Murray all of a sudden getting pulled from SL action still has me wondering what that was all about.

[SpursforSix]

Aldridge, Green, Murray for Irving, Shumpert is my guess on whats been offered.

Rumors have been swirling all off-season about the Spurs willingness to part with LA and Green, even long before the Irving news. Also, Murray all of a sudden getting pulled from SL action still has me wondering what that was all about.

X2. With what Murray has shown, no way they give him up. And LMA is in a contract year so probably keep him and see if he's motivated.

[Hoops Czar]

No idea if this guy is legit for full of shit.

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He's just regurgitating what everyone else is saying. He knows nothing.

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[Mr. Body]

That certainly suggests the Spurs may not have shown any interest.

[Hoops Czar]

That certainly suggests the Spurs may not have shown any interest.

It's because the Spurs need a third team to make the trade a reality. Since the most realistic 3rd team option (Suns) wants Kyrie too, the Spurs don't have a leg to stand on.

[BatManu20]

Lol

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[venitian navigator]

if true, these guys are stupid...

[Mal]

Lol

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Wolves have to do sign and trade with Anthony Bennett, so Cavs will get back both 1st overall picks.

[exstatic]

if true, these guys are stupid...

If you look closely, it says via @AmicoHoops. Sam Amico is a hack who plays on the similarity of his name to Sam Amick's.

[cd021]

Exactly. Mills is the only priority asset that makes sense. So likely Mills plus Aldridge/Gasol for Kyrie plus big.

Did you read my post?

Mills can't be traded if already signed until January and if he hasn't officially signed then he can't be S&T'd to Cleveland because they would be hard capped because they would be well over the apron of $124 million.

[TheDoctor]

Did you read my post?

Mills can't be traded if already signed until January and if he hasn't officially signed then he can't be S&T'd to Cleveland because they would be hard capped because they would be well over the apron of $124 million.
:lol duuuude you have been SpursforSixed

[SpursforSix]

Did you read my post?

Mills can't be traded if already signed until January and if he hasn't officially signed then he can't be S&T'd to Cleveland because they would be hard capped because they would be well over the apron of $124 million.

Right. He's the only real tradable asset the Spurs have. Would be nice to get rid of LMA but makes no sense for anyone. Hopefully he puts out good effort this year as he's playing for his next contract.

[SAGirl]

Green and Murray won't work do to trade rules, Anderson would have to be added to make the money work.

Green
Murray
Anderson
2018 1st round pick

still an underwhelming return tbh. Miami and Phoenix could easily top that deal.
It could be considered underwhelming but for the Spurs it's not which is why I didn't think they would have offered more than Danny and a player or a pick. If adding other players or picks to the package (to make it fit some CBA rule) doesn't move the needle or makes the return better for CLE then that deal isn't getting done.

It might be the reason we haven't heard the Spurs in the running or improving their odds to land Kyrie. Their best offer was Green (the best plyer they can offer) and he wouldn't get that deal done. I really don't expect Kyrie in the Spurs, but we shall see what happens when Cavs continue to get low balled from their expected return.

[SAGirl]

It might have been answered already, but is there any reason why Patty (and Manu) haven't officially signed their contracts?
I haven't seen that discussed anywhere...

[look_at_g_shred]

It might have been answered already, but is there any reason why Patty (and Manu) haven't officially signed their contracts?
I believe Patty hasn't signed yet because he's on a Book tour. As for Manu, i'm sure they are letting him enjoy his time off.

[Chillen]

Ledouche would never let the spurs get kyrie

Well if he wants to attempt at trying to ruin the Warriors mojo, trading Kyrie to Spurs is a good start.

[dbestpro]

Irving will not be traded to the Spurs. The new GM is under tremendous pressure to make the Cavs better with this trade. No one will give them what they want without a contract extension. I fully expect the Cavs to break camp with Irving still in a Cavs uniform just like LMA will still be in a Spurs uniform.

[tholdren]

Irving will not be traded to the Spurs. The new GM is under tremendous pressure to make the Cavs better with this trade. No one will give them what they want without a contract extension. I fully expect the Cavs to break camp with Irving still in a Cavs uniform just like LMA will still be in a Spurs uniform.

Bron has been the gm for years tbh

[Birn]

Irving will not be traded to the Spurs. The new GM is under tremendous pressure to make the Cavs better with this trade. No one will give them what they want without a contract extension. I fully expect the Cavs to break camp with Irving still in a Cavs uniform just like LMA will still be in a Spurs uniform.

Irving will not be with the Cavaliers when camp starts. No way. The cavs are just waiting it out to see who can present the best offer. There's no reason to trade him now. He'll be traded right before camp. It's smart for them to wait and see if a blockbuster deal is proposed by some desperate team. If nothing big is ever offered, then they will have to settle for the best available deal. The best hope for the Spurs is to hope that no team will make the blockbuster deal the cavs are seeking. I can't think of any big deals that are truly realistic. Maybe the twolves with Wiggins, a vet and a pick. I doubt that deal will happen. Otherwise, I think the best possible deal for the cavs is Green, Murray, Anderson, and a 1st.

We shall see.

[cd98]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f00ee903-67a7-3d38-8fdb-30e6c2130939/ss_report%3A-suns-reject-cavs.html

Egad. Looks like GMs remember how Irving couldn't do squat before Lebron, and are valuing him that way in terms of what they are willing to trade. But doesn't that not factor in his off court value to a franchise? Or is that off court value also overrated.

[TimDunkem]

Irving will not be with the Cavaliers when camp starts. No way. The cavs are just waiting it out to see who can present the best offer. There's no reason to trade him now. He'll be traded right before camp. It's smart for them to wait and see if a blockbuster deal is proposed by some desperate team. If nothing big is ever offered, then they will have to settle for the best available deal. The best hope for the Spurs is to hope that no team will make the blockbuster deal the cavs are seeking. I can't think of any big deals that are truly realistic. Maybe the twolves with Wiggins, a vet and a pick. I doubt that deal will happen. Otherwise, I think the best possible deal for the cavs is Green, Murray, Anderson, and a 1st.

We shall see.
SAGirl would veto that trade.

[coachmac87]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f00ee903-67a7-3d38-8fdb-30e6c2130939/ss_report%3A-suns-reject-cavs.html

Egad. Looks like GMs remember how Irving couldn't do squat before Lebron, and are valuing him that way in terms of what they are willing to trade. But doesn't that not factor in his off court value to a franchise? Or is that off court value also overrated.

I think the biggest question is can Cleveland afford having Irving show up to camp on the roster? Can they whether the storm of the drama/saga of Irving and James??

That's the dark horse in all of this IMO

[cd98]

I think the biggest question is can Cleveland afford having Irving show up to camp on the roster? Can they whether the storm of the drama/saga of Irving and James??

That's the dark horse in all of this IMO

Agreed. The media tends to blow locker room spats out of proportion. But I can't see why Irving would ask for a trade when he'd have a shot at another NBA finals and more power to dictate where he is traded next year. That makes me think it's not a fixable relationship.

[dbreiden83080]

He's acting like such a diva I don't see him being traded. He and Lebron will have to fight for the mirror this season..

[exstatic]

He's acting like such a diva I don't see him being traded. He and Lebron will have to fight for the mirror this season..

Don't see that at all. When your "teammate " shops you around the league like a two dollar whore, as de facto GM, and you're an All Star starter, you end that relationship. Thats not drama, that's a good healthy reaction.

[BillMc]

He's acting like such a diva I don't see him being traded. He and Lebron will have to fight for the mirror this season..
:lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[ducks]

cavs want more otherwise it would be done

[baseline bum]

I can't see Cleveland doing any better than that Suns offer.

[sasaint]

I can't see Cleveland doing any better than that Suns offer.

If true, it certainly puts the Spurs out of the running.

[SAGirl]

If true, it certainly puts the Spurs out of the running.
I think they have already made their best offer and it wasn't enough for Cleveland. The Suns offer is a good one. I don't think Cleveland can do better than that unless something unexpected happens.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lmfao Dragan Bender is a 7-foot Hezonja. Just another euro bust, tbh...

Spurs offer of LMA, Green, Murray, + pick would be 2x better.

[SPURt]

Lmfao Dragan Bender is a 7-foot Hezonja. Just another euro bust, tbh...

Spurs offer of LMA, Green, Murray, + pick would be 2x better.
This is true, Bledsoe, Bender and a pick is a pretty meh package

[baseline bum]

This is true, Bledsoe, Bender and a pick is a pretty meh package

It's probably as good as they'll do though. Bledsoe is a far better fit for the team than Aldridge would ever be. Sure they'd love to swap Shumpert for Green + Murray, but not enough to move their one tradeable asset in Irving for a quickly declining malcontent who would be a lousy fit. It's not like Aldridge would help them against Golden State, and that's the only matchup that matters for Cleveland.

[kxs783kms]

Lmfao Dragan Bender is a 7-foot Hezonja. Just another euro bust, tbh...

Spurs offer of LMA, Green, Murray, + pick would be 2x better.

I agree also, I don't know why people think this package is good coming from the Suns. I mean it's decent but the Suns can end up being a team that grabs that 8th spot in the West, effectively making that 1st Rd pick, not as good as many may think. Plus they already have Love and Thomas for size and Bledsoe has a injury history. This package isn't as attractive as many may think.

[TimDunkem]

It's probably as good as they'll do though. Bledsoe is a far better fit for the team than Aldridge would ever be. Sure they'd love to swap Shumpert for Green + Murray, but not enough to move their one tradeable asset in Irving for a quickly declining malcontent who would be a lousy fit. It's not like Aldridge would help them against Golden State, and that's the only matchup that matters for Cleveland.
Ding, ding, ding. I've been saying this all along. You'd likely need a third team to take Aldridge while sending something of equal value to Cleveland.

But literally no one fucking wants that pussy LMA:lol

[TheDoctor]

It's probably as good as they'll do though. Bledsoe is a far better fit for the team than Aldridge would ever be. Sure they'd love to swap Shumpert for Green + Murray, but not enough to move their one tradeable asset in Irving for a quickly declining malcontent who would be a lousy fit. It's not like Aldridge would help them against Golden State, and that's the only matchup that matters for Cleveland.Excuse me? LMA is a big 6'11" and would punish the Worriers down low all night long :drunk

[SAGirl]

Lmfao Dragan Bender is a 7-foot Hezonja. Just another euro bust, tbh...

Spurs offer of LMA, Green, Murray, + pick would be 2x better.
Spurs aren't offering all that for Kyrie IMO...

[ducks]

Why
Draft pick is all they wanted for lma

[SAGirl]

Why
Draft pick is all they wanted for lma
They are trying to get better not worse. At the point they were trading LMA it was before FA and tgey had possibilities to shore up the roster with cap space etc. At this point if they lose LMA they can't replace him unless they get a big back. Basically it creates holes in the rotation and minutes making the team worse over all without opportunities to make up the holes since most FA have been signed. It's too late to sell the farm for someone and frankly if they were going to do that there were better players than Kyrie traded....

[Knoxxx]

Murray-LMA-Green for Irving-Thompson-Schumpert makes plenty of sense for both teams given the situation.

[dbreiden83080]

Don't see that at all. When your "teammate " shops you around the league like a two dollar whore, as de facto GM, and you're an All Star starter, you end that relationship. Thats not drama, that's a good healthy reaction.

I don't know who is trading for him when he's refusing to commit long-term? Also he is showing himself to be a horrible teammate. Ungrateful as hell. Cleveland was in the doghouse before LeBron came back and they have went to three straight finals and won a championship. He's acting like a total bitch. What kind of asshole is screaming and yelling to trade me away from a team that just went to the finals? He has two years left on his contract for god sake's.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Murray-LMA-Green for Irving-Thompson-Schumpert makes plenty of sense for both teams given the situation.

Not even remotely close to being able to work salary-wise (off by ~$13M).

[TheDoctor]

I don't know who is trading for him when he's refusing to commit long-term? Also he is showing himself to be a horrible teammate. Ungrateful as hell. Cleveland was in the doghouse before LeBron came back and they have went to three straight finals and won a championship. He's acting like a total bitch. What kind of asshole is screaming and yelling to trade me away from a team that just went to the finals? He has two years left on his contract for god sake's.

That's what the press is saying. We don't know shit. BUT, same press reported that GM LeBron wanted to use him as trade chip to acquire either PG13 or JButler. Still, we don't know shit. But if the latter were true, I definitely would be upset w/ BAFO (Bron And the Front Office).

[Drewlius]

The trade that makes the most sense for both teams(From what I remember it makes sense salary wise) is Kyrie and Frye for LMA, DG, and Murray. Beneficial to both parties as a 2 for 2 without Murray. But Murray being Lebron's homie sweetens the pot. Throw in a future 1st if you want, I still snap take that offer.

[TheDoctor]

The trade that makes the most sense for both teams(From what I remember it makes sense salary wise) is Kyrie and Frye for LMA, DG, and Murray. Beneficial to both parties as a 2 for 2 without Murray. But Murray being Lebron's homie sweetens the pot. Throw in a future 1st if you want, I still snap take that offer.
The only scrub to ever sweetened something for LeBron was James Jones tbh. And now he's not even w/ the team. I don't trust LBJ when using Social Media to show love/talent evaluation. In 2014 he basically slurped Shabazz Napier's digital semen. This love/pot sweetening led MIA to draft Napier days before to bolt to CLE :lmao

[cd021]

I don't know who is trading for him when he's refusing to commit long-term? Also he is showing himself to be a horrible teammate. Ungrateful as hell. Cleveland was in the doghouse before LeBron came back and they have went to three straight finals and won a championship. He's acting like a total bitch. What kind of asshole is screaming and yelling to trade me away from a team that just went to the finals? He has two years left on his contract for god sake's.

Most contracts are for four years, having a
superstar- at least a one way superstar- on an old max contract for two seasons is both a steal for the team and also disincentivizes him from committing past two more seasons. Basically he can opt out after two years and get a much bigger deal after that point. Makes zero sense for Kyrie to commit beyond the length of his contract, when Dan Gilbert can't commit to any GM past theirs.

Cleveland is a shit show in terms of stability. This is the same team that fired Mike Brown twice in three seasons and has had 4 coaches in Kyrie's first six years. Him wanting out says less about him and highlights the instability within the organization.

[tholdren]

Most contracts are for four years, having a
superstar- at least a one way superstar- on an old max contract for two seasons is both a steal for the team and also disincentivizes him from committing past two more seasons. Basically he can opt out after two years and get a much bigger deal after that point. Makes zero sense for Kyrie to commit beyond the length of his contract, when Dan Gilbert can't commit to any GM past theirs.

Cleveland is a shit show in terms of stability. This is the same team that fired Mike Brown twice in three seasons and has had 4 coaches in Kyrie's first six years. Him wanting out says less about him and highlights the instability within the organization.

And speaks volumes of lebum

[cd021]

And speaks volumes of lebum

Speaks far more about Dan Gilbert and how he can't seem to get out of his own way.

He guarantees that Cleveland will win a championship before Lebron; the following year the Cavs set a record by losing 26 games in a row in a single season while the Heat go on to make the finals four straight times and back to back championships.

He only won a championship after Lebron came back and is forced to kiss the rings.:lol

[Chillen]

He only won a championship after Lebron came back and is forced to kiss the rings.:lol

That 2016 Cavs NBA championship was incredible, I don't think LeBron could ever top it really he has 3 rings now, that was easily his best.

[SAGirl]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-no-sense-of-urgency-in-an-irving-deal/
Rumors that Cavs are in no rush...

[tholdren]

Speaks far more about Dan Gilbert and how he can't seem to get out of his own way.

He guarantees that Cleveland will win a championship before Lebron; the following year the Cavs set a record by losing 26 games in a row in a single season while the Heat go on to make the finals four straight times and back to back championships.

He only won a championship after Lebron came back and is forced to kiss the rings.:lol

Maybe, but people act like team isnt lebrons. Dan gilbert is to lebron as god is to chuck norris.

[gambit1990]

fuck kyrie. anywhere but here.

[gambit1990]

"i don't want to play with lebron anymore / i don't want to live his shadow... but let me join the spurs so i can be #1 over kawhi."

kyrie is stupid and disrespectful as fuck.

i already said, he only wants to come here cause he thinks he has a chance at being more popular than kawhi.

[hooperflash]

"i don't want to play with lebron anymore / i don't want to live his shadow... but let me join the spurs so i can be #1 over kawhi."

kyrie is stupid and disrespectful as fuck.

i already said, he only wants to come here cause he thinks he has a chance at being more popular than kawhi.

I don't think he'd mind even just being Kawhi's equal tbh... the way he probably sees it is that LeBron is over there running the point in Cleveland most of the time. He gets the ball whenever it's convenient for LeBron to dish it. Kawhi plays the SF significantly different than LeBron as we all know so Kyrie welcomes the idea of joining a contender that really could use his skills.

OR he's just trolling :lol

[RD2191]

LeBron gets all of the credit when they win yet none of the blame when they lose. Must be tough playing next to him.

[cutewizard]

Cavs taking their time I see

[Phenomanul]

"i don't want to play with lebron anymore / i don't want to live his shadow... but let me join the spurs so i can be #1 over kawhi."

kyrie is stupid and disrespectful as fuck.

i already said, he only wants to come here cause he thinks he has a chance at being more popular than kawhi.

That is the narrative coming out of LeBron's camp tbh... Kyrie is just upset that LeBron would use him as a trade chip... especially in light of the fact that LeBron himself won't commit past this season and is leaving Kyrie in a position to have a team that's not suited or compatible with his more up tempo style.

The best meme out there in reference to Kyrie is the one that says:

From Kyrie to LeBron, you can't leave me if I leave you first...

[superbigtime]

would rather have john wall

[baseline bum]

would rather have john wall

As long as we're playing the would rather game, would rather have prime David Robinson.

[baseline bum]

That is the narrative coming out of LeBron's camp tbh... Kyrie is just upset that LeBron would use him as a trade chip... especially in light of the fact that LeBron himself won't commit past this season and is leaving Kyrie in a position to have a team that's not suited or compatible with his more up tempo style.

The best meme out there in reference to Kyrie is the one that says:

From Kyrie to LeBron, you can't leave me if I leave you first...

Man did LeBron think he was going to bully Griffin into trading Irving for CP3? And that CP3 would bully the Clippers into accepting Kyrie?

[Robz4000]

As long as we're playing the would rather game, would rather have prime David Robinson.

I'll take prime Timmy tbh.

[spurs10]

As long as we don't get another player whose name starts with K...:wow

[hooperflash]

As long as we don't get another player whose name starts with K...:wow
Kyle Anderson:lol

[Captivus]

LeBron gets all of the credit when they win yet none of the blame when they lose. Must be tough playing next to him.

[Clipper Nation]

LeBron gets all of the credit when they win yet none of the blame when they lose. Must be tough playing next to him.
:lol Literally the exact opposite of this is true.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't think he'd mind even just being Kawhi's equal tbh... the way he probably sees it is that LeBron is over there running the point in Cleveland most of the time. He gets the ball whenever it's convenient for LeBron to dish it. Kawhi plays the SF significantly different than LeBron as we all know so Kyrie welcomes the idea of joining a contender that really could use his skills.

OR he's just trolling :lol
Kyrie took more shots per game than LeBron did last year. But yeah, LeBron's totally holding that scrub back.

[tonight...you]

:lol Literally the exact opposite of this is true.
True.

[hooperflash]

Kyrie took more shots per game than LeBron did last year. But yeah, LeBron's totally holding that scrub back.

Yeah, I read somewhere that last year he shot more FGs than Thomas (Celtics) and Curry (GSW). :tu

[Cloud786]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20276943/kyrie-irving-asking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers-shows-courage-former-cavs-gm-says

David Griffin on Kyrie's trade request.

[tholdren]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20276943/kyrie-irving-asking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers-shows-courage-former-cavs-gm-says

David Griffin on Kyrie's trade request.

Yep, total american hero. And some new spurs fans want him... ban

[ginobilized]

Will this thread reach 100 pages before Kyrie gets traded?

I say, maybe

It sure sounds like Griffin and Kyrie were on the same page and that Lebron didn't like that.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Chris Broussard deleted a tweet saying Kyrie was going to Miami for dragic, Winslow and adebayo. Maybe a pick too.

[DPG21920]

Any euros here know if bookmaker.eu is legit? Reading they have sa as favorite to land Kyrie now

[SpursforSix]

Chris Broussard deleted a tweet saying Kyrie was going to Miami for dragic, Winslow and adebayo. Maybe a pick too.

Well that's something to crumble your Jammie Dodgers

[illusioNtEk]

Maybe LeBron and kyrie are doing this under cia pops plan for both to come over lol

[ginobilized]

Maybe LeBron and kyrie are doing this under cia pops plan for both to come over lol

:toastOf course, I lost the script for awhile. CIA Pop is always the answer.

[cd021]

Chris Broussard deleted a tweet saying Kyrie was going to Miami for dragic, Winslow and Adebayo. Maybe a pick too.

That trade makes plenty of sense and I've been saying it for a while. I'm not sure how Miami will get a first round pick they are out of their 2018 and 2020 picks meaning they can't trade a 1st until 2022. Cleveland waiting five years to get a pick seems unlikely to move the needle unless it's lightly protected (maybe top 14 in 2022 and top 10 2023)

Other trade I could see happening:

Bledsoe+Dudley+ 2018 Phoenix 1st round (top a 10 pick most likely) for Irving and Shumpert.

Cleveland gets a second and a very high 1st round pick and swaps out Irving for Bledsoe who is worse overall but a much better defender. Dudley is certainly better and fits the 3 & D role better than Shumpert does in Cleveland, they have similar contracts and it would basically be a swap on top of the Bledsoe for Irving part.

[DesignatedT]

Chris Broussard deleted a tweet saying Kyrie was going to Miami for dragic, Winslow and adebayo. Maybe a pick too.

He said he didn't tweet anything.

[TheDoctor]

He said he didn't tweet anything.
Don't shoot the Messenger...

http://i.imgur.com/NBaCfzS.jpg

[Robz4000]

Don't shoot the Messenger...

http://i.imgur.com/NBaCfzS.jpg

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[TheDoctor]

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#Sauces :lol

[cd98]

My understanding is that he took that back. We all know this trade is going to drag out the rest of the summer.

[SPURt]

Don't shoot the Messenger...

http://i.imgur.com/NBaCfzS.jpg
this would be a really great trade for Cleveland if true. Winslow was the Josh Jackson of his draft lol.

[Ron Swanson]

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