Spurs 2018 offseason thread

[phxspurfan]

Tommy Hamilton IV + Lonnie Walker IV = Tommy Walker VIII?

No, King James VIII

[Chinook]

Why does that guy look like another guard?

Good news (though a lot probably already knew) is that he's a big.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv6_mL0qRcQ

Bad news is that he makes Anderson seem fleet of foot. Dude has some skills for a guy his size, but not really anything to get excited about unless he's a low-key beast defender.

[phxspurfan]

Good news (though a lot probably already knew) is that he's a big.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv6_mL0qRcQ

Bad news is that he makes Anderson seem fleet of foot. Dude has some skills for a guy his size, but not really anything to get excited about unless he's a low-key beast defender.

Yay, more “pro basketball players” who can’t dribble or shoot. Let’s load up on those

[hooperflash]

This tweet was getting people on Twitter :lol

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[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski
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Three-time NBA championship coach Steve Kerr is finalizing a contract extension that will make him one of the highest paid coaches in the NBA, league sources tell ESPN.

[ducks]

The Mavericks did not want to surrender draft compensation in a potential trade with the Clippers for DeAndre Jordan and prefer instead to pursue him in free agency, league sources say

[sasaint]

This guy looks like Jason Terry. I thought it was him for a second.

:lol Me, too. But at least this guy is 7' tall. Summer League fodder.

[ace3g]

Matt Velazquez‏Verified account @Matt_Velazquez (https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez)









Per source, the Bucks have extended a qualifying offer to Jabari Parker, making him a restricted free agent. As expected. Bucks also extended qualifying offers to two-way players Marshall Plumlee and Xavier Munford to make them restricted as well.

[ace3g]

Sean Deveney SeanDeveney
(https://twitter.com/SeanDeveney) 10h (https://twitter.com/SeanDeveney/status/1012715846840606720)
One other FA note: Former NBAer Anthony Randolph has interest from "several" NBA teams, according to sources. He was excellent for Real Madrid last year, had a bit of a rough ending this year. He's under contract w Real Madrid, but can get out of the deal. sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-t… (https://t.co/A0prrxsxXT)

[SpurPadre]

This makes me even happier than when Bonner finally ended his reign of terror, tbh.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) @TheSteinLine (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine)




The Warriors know this has a marginal chance of success, but league sources say they intend to at least explore their free-agent chances with DeAndre Jordan, who is not only close pals with Kevin Durant but also one of GM Bob Myers' former clients

10:57pm · 29 Jun 2018 (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1012907849607995393) · TweetDeck

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The Portland Trail Blazers will not tender Pat Connaughton a qualifying offer, a league source told The Athletic. He will become an unrestricted free agent as a result.



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[phxspurfan]

Sources: Lonzo Ball has torn meniscus

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23950170/los-angeles-lakers-lonzo-ball-torn-meniscus-left-knee-expects-ready-start-season


RIP that trade

[jyra]

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[BackHome]

I liked him in the G League but he is not tall enough and really is passive on offense.

[picnroll]

Jabari bringing us more cutting edge Spurs news.

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

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[BillMc]

So, Spurs going to have any 12:01 AM signings tonight?

[RD2191]

So, Spurs going to have any 12:01 AM signings tonight?

Kyle Anderson :lobt2:

[szkorhetz]

So, Spurs going to have any 12:01 AM signings tonight?
Leonard supermax

[BillMc]

Kyle Anderson :lobt2:

:lol Do it RC!

[BillMc]

Leonard supermax

That would a turn of events for sure.

[ace3g]

Timmy still looking good!!!!

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[gambit1990]

By declining Nowitzki’s option for 2018-19, Dallas can potentially create about $28 million in salary-cap space this summer for the pursuit of Jordan and other free agents.

Nowitzki has spent his entire career in Dallas and will enter next season — his record-setting 21st in a row in the same uniform — just 233 points short of passing Wilt Chamberlain’s 31,419 for No. 5 on the N.B.A.’s career scoring list.

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:lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn) (https://twitter.com/wojespn) @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)


Minnesota has waived center Cole Aldrich, league sources tell ESPN.
2:24pm · 30 Jun 2018 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013141242841108480) · Twitter Web Client (http://twitter.com)

[phxspurfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn) (https://twitter.com/wojespn) @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)


Minnesota has waived center Cole Aldrich, league sources tell ESPN.
2:24pm · 30 Jun 2018 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013141242841108480) · Twitter Web Client (http://twitter.com)



One thing good about Today's NBA is a lot of the shitties are being exposed. No talent ass clowns who were only in the NBA bc they were tall or big are getting rooted out

[KDKSpurs24]

One thing good about Today's NBA is a lot of the shitties are being exposed. No talent ass clowns who were only in the NBA bc they were tall or big are getting rooted out
You sound like throlden.

[LakerHater]

fLakers finally released Bryant..... Thomas Bryant


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[NASpurs]

Anyone want a midget?

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[ducks]

Cheaper then mills midget

[r0drig0lac]

Anyone want a midget?

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[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)
Story from earlier on Lakers guaranteeing center Ivica Zubac's $1.5M deal for next season: sports.yahoo.com/sources-lakers… (https://t.co/GddZI04vML)

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs)http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png?w=80&h=80&transparent=trueOffseason focus


The future of Kawhi Leonard: Eligible for $219 million extension or explore the trade market. When is the point of no return?

Kawhi trade packages: Stay competitive or look to rebuild?

The restricted free agents: Kyle Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson), Davis Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans) and Bryn Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)

Exceptions


Non-tax midlevel: $8.6M

Bi-annual: $3.4M

Cap-space breakdown


The Spurs are not operating from a position of strength this summer when it comes to flexibility.

Though the front office has shown to be creative in the past in creating cap space, San Antonio will enter the offseason with $95 million in guaranteed contracts. This does not include the $8 million in salary holds on restricted free agents.

For San Antonio to create room, Pau Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol) and Danny Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) would have to be traded and their free-agent holds would need to be renounced. The Spurs would have close to $32 million in room in this scenario.


Second-rounder: Chimezie Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283/chimezie-metu) (PF)
Team needs


Starter: C

Bench: PF

Free-agent status


Rudy Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay) | Non-Bird (player option)

Joffrey Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne) | Non-Bird

Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker) | Bird

Kyle Anderson | Restricted Bird

Davis Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans) | Restricted early Bird

Bryn Forbes | Restricted early Bird

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23529024/biggest-nba-free-agency-trade-extension-decisions-every-team

[LakerHater]

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[SAGirl]

:pop: ...
We were lucky Murray fell to the Spurs at 29bc I remember the Spurs scouted Ulis extensively and were rumored to be very interested.

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[ducks]

GO SPURS GO
SIGN A STUD FOR THAT

[look_at_g_shred]

C’mon home Bradley

[Leetonidas]

C’mon home Bradley

Spurs have enough guards tbh. Need some front court players

[Play Boban]

Spurs have enough guards tbh. Need some front court players
All the Spur guards are trash though tbh.

[Drewlius]

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The Wolves would likely match at that price, but I’d love if we offered that to Bjelica.

[ace3g]

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[NASpurs]

We need a playmaker. How about Tyreke Evans? He's too expensive?

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine)

The NBA notified all teams today -- in a practice it introduced this time last year -- that they are allowed to schedule free agent meetings with prospective players as of noon ET, according to league sources

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) 1h (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013206755336163330)

To clarify: This rule was instituted in before free agency last summer and teams were reminded in a June 11 memo that they were clear to schedule free agent meetings with players as of noon ET today -- essentially 12 hours before the marketplace opens

[SAGirl]

looks like 12:01 deal is arranged for Will BArton
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[cd98]

Well if we know Kawhi is gone, then Spurs can at least get an idea of what free agents, if any, to make a play on.

[Leetonidas]

All the Spur guards are trash though tbh.

Yeah but face it Mills and Green aren't going anywhere. But spurs have some nice young ones in Murray/White/Walker. I'd rather try develop the young trio and find a nice stretch PF or defensive C instead

[NASpurs]

Spurs are about to blow up that MLE on Jamal Crawford and the Bi-annual on Cole Adrich.

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[look_at_g_shred]

We need a playmaker. How about Tyreke Evans? He's too expensive?
IMO, he’s worth the MLE.

[cjw]

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[ducks]

Bobby Marks
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A player that has early bird rights must sign a contract for 2 years with no options. The EB rights would have allowed KD to sign for the max but he elected to do the 1+1 thus voiding the max allowed.
Bobby Marks BobbyMarks42
The Kevin Durant salary will fall below the $35.65M max salary because of the player option in year 2. The discount would offset the cost if Golden State elects to use the $5.3M tax midlevel.

[tbdog]

I cannot see the spurs being players here. If Leonard gets traded. We are getting 3 or 4 guys back. Why would they spend on guaranteed spots when we could be getting 3 players for 1?

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Sources: Thunder GM Sam Presti wanted to hold the Thunder's meeting with Paul George in OKC -- with a party that's one more element to the franchise's year-long recruiting effort on George. OKC officials, George and his agent are meeting tonight.

[NASpurs]

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[Seventyniner]

So which is the real free agency news thread, this one or the Kawhi one?

[NASpurs]

So which is the real free agency news thread, this one or the Kawhi one?

This one but there's some overlapping in the other thread with what the Lakers do.

[NASpurs]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/30/17518084/san-antonio-spurs-consider-patrick-mccaw-noah-vonleh-mario-hezonja

PtC: Bargain bin free agents the Spurs should consider


1. McCaw
2. Hezonja
3. Vonleh

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy AlexKennedyNBA
(https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) now (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1013262263392882689)
One of the most interesting available players is Tyreke Evans (just like at the trade deadline). He's coming off an excellent season and has a ton of suitors. The Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers, Denver Nuggets, Miami Heat, Houston Rockets (and others) showed interest in Feb.

[ace3g]

I'd be ok with Hezonja

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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Paul George has committed to sign a deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, league sources tell ESPN.

[LakerHater]

Lakers no chasing boogie!!

....Kobe has the same injury.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) 8s (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013267115019849728)
DeAndre Jordan and the Dallas Mavericks have scheduled a 12:01 a.m. meeting to immediately launch into free-agent negotiations and are expected to quickly reach terms on a new deal tonight, according to league sources.

[bklynspursfan]

Gay is back!

[LakerHater]

Rudy gay is back!!!

1yr 10 millmill

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 11s (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013267266929127427)
Free agent forward Rudy Gay has committed on a one-year, $10 million deal to re-sign with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo.

[Ron Swanson]

Happy about Rudy coming back.

[Seventyniner]

Preparing for life without Kawhi.

[ace3g]

This basically explains NBA Free Agency Rules


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJVBvvS57j0

[tbdog]

We need a playmaker. How about Tyreke Evans? He's too expensive?

Do we need another guard?

[Spurs9]

:lol Lakers reddit turning on PG instantly

[dbestpro]

James should find a way to sign with OKC. That would turn some heads.

[NASpurs]

Do we need another guard?

Playmaker man, how many of those do we have ?

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
(https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto) 9s (https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1013269809356787713)
The New York Knicks have interest in unrestricted free agent Mario Hezonja, league sources told The Athletic. Knicks general manager Scott Perry was in Orlando when the Magic selected Hezonja fifth overall in 2015.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 10s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013269901992226816)
Doug McDermott has agreed to a three-year, $22M deal with Indiana, league source tells ESPN.

[LakerHater]

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[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 9s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013270005180485633)
Joe Harris has agreed to a two-year, $16M deal with Nets, league sources tell ESPN.

[HarlemHeat37]

Doug McDermott would go to Indiana:lol good choice for him..he'll be a fan favorite..

[FkLA]

^look at those deals

And some of y'all niggas think Fathead isn't worth $5 mill/yr. :lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn) (https://twitter.com/wojespn) @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)


Ersan Ilyasova has agreed to a 3 year, $21M deal with Milwaukee, league source tells ESPN.
10:59pm · 30 Jun 2018 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013270808175808512) · Twitter Web Client (http://twitter.com)

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 13s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013270978917519362)
All-Star Chris Paul will sign a four-year, $160M max contract to stay with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.

[NASpurs]

Fucking tweets are making my phone light up like a Christmas tree. I can't keep up.

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

Take that you cucks

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[NASpurs]

The prodigal son returns

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[Seventyniner]

The prodigal son returns

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Better put a chair on the door and lock him in until he signs.

But only one year? Not even a 1+1?

[LakerHater]

Deandre agreeing to Dallas

[FkLA]

Take that you cucks

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Rudy Joto is my nigga. I have no idea what makes some on here dislike him.

[ducks]

Marc Stein
Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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DeAndre Jordan and the Dallas Mavericks have verbally agreed on a one-year deal approaching the $24.1 million option with the Clippers for next season that Jordan relinquished Friday, according to league sourcesP

[Kindergarten Cop]

Better put a chair on the door and lock him in until he signs.

But only one year? Not even a 1+1?

That’s what I was thinking. Weird, right?

[objective]

These are some dumbass contracts

McDermott? Ilyasova? Come on, what are these teams doing?

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)
Free agent center Aron Baynes has agreed to a two-year, $11M deal to return to the Boston Celtics, league sources tell Yahoo.

[cjw]

These are some dumbass contracts

McDermott? Ilyasova? Come on, what are these teams doing?

Has to be what these teams are targeting for MLE, or keeping guys who would get that MLE money elsewhere.

Remember these deals can still be executed in an order come July 6th that makes the most sense from the cap perspective.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013274648535027713)
Oklahoma City forward Jerami Grant has agreed to a three-year, $27M contract to return to the Thunder, league sources told ESPN.

[HarlemHeat37]

I like Grant, been a fan for a minute, sucks for him that he can't play ahead of Carmelo's fat ass..

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013275707970072583)
Paul George has agreed to a four-year, $137M max contract with the Thunder, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option.

[ace3g]

Trey Rodriguez TreyRodriguezNY
(https://twitter.com/TreyRodriguezNY) now (https://twitter.com/TreyRodriguezNY/status/1013275839411163136)
Also hearing the #Knickshttps://abs.twimg.com/hashflags/NBA_2017_18_NYK/NBA_2017_18_NYK.png (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks) may take a look at Nerlens Noel, with Kyle O’Quinn expected to depart in free agency.

[NASpurs]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013275707970072583)
Paul George has agreed to a four-year, $137M max contract with the Thunder, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option.

4 years? Fuck yeah!! Now he can't do that 1 + 1 shit and bolt to LA next year :lol

[Robz4000]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013275707970072583)
Paul George has agreed to a four-year, $137M max contract with the Thunder, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option.

:lol Laker fan

[Ditty]

Please get O'Quinn for the MLE, Spurs!

[ace3g]

Enes Kanter (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter) (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter) @Enes_Kanter (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter)



Well...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg_an-6VQAADtR7.jpg:small (https://t.co/F3STNDaalU)

[Ron Swanson]

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[Ron Swanson]

Enes Kanter (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter) (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter) @Enes_Kanter (https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter)



Well...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg_an-6VQAADtR7.jpg:small (https://t.co/F3STNDaalU)

:lol

[ace3g]

Bobby Marks BobbyMarks42

(https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42)

With Paul George and Jerami Grant on board, Oklahoma City now has a payroll of $156M with 11 players under contract. Because of the repeater tax penalty, the Thunder currently have a tax bill of $130M. The tax bill would be the largest in NBA history.

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, that luxury tax bill for a 1st round exit every year:lol

[ducks]

Should have paid tax with harden
Thunder could have had a title

[Seventyniner]

Bobby Marks (https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42)Bob (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9095)byMarks42



With Paul George and Jerami Grant on board, Oklahoma City now has a payroll of $156M with 11 players under contract. Because of the repeater tax penalty, the Thunder currently have a tax bill of $130M. The tax bill would be the largest in NBA history.

Holy shit, $130M. If you can't beat Lacob, outspend him?

[BillMc]

Lost in all the Kawhi drama is Manu's decision. Any rumors out there?

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[kjhip1]

More importantly when are we gonna offer TP that 15 mil/yr extension?

[tbdog]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013274648535027713)
Oklahoma City forward Jerami Grant has agreed to a three-year, $27M contract to return to the Thunder, league sources told ESPN.

See, Kyle is a better player.

[Seventyniner]

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Bye, Carmelo. Have fun playing with LeBron wherever he ends up.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania

(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) now (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013281263518732288)
Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

[NASpurs]

Rockettes :lmao

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[HarlemHeat37]

Wow, blow to Houston..good for Ariza getting paid:lol

[LakerHater]

Sun's get ariza

[RD2191]

Rockettes :lmao

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Is he restricted??

[bdictjames]

Rockettes :lmao

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:wow

There goes their glue guy. Ryno better step up, if he's still with the team. :lol

[spurraider21]

Wow, blow to Houston..good for Ariza getting paid:lol

[spurraider21]

:wow

There goes their glue guy. Ryno better step up, if he's still with the team. :lol
bring back chandler portions lol

[NASpurs]

What a great offseason it's been so far :lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

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Free agent forward Ed Davis has agreed to a one-year, $4.4M deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN.

[FkLA]

What guys are we looking at for the MLE?

[TimDunkem]

What guys are we looking at for the MLE?

Tony Parker.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ed Davis only got 4 mil? Damn, he was solid last season..

[gambit1990]

Tony Parker.
:lol

[raybies]

Any SFs that can be had for the MLE??

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

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Presti :lol

[NASpurs]

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

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Why would Phoenix need another SF? They must have a trade coming up in the next few days.

[BillMc]

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Which I would think would be good for keeping our RFA's, though sounds like Davis maybe gone.

[mo7888]

Why would Phoenix need another SF? They must have a trade coming up in the next few days.

Josh Jackson I'd guesd

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

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Free agent Derrick Rose is finalizing a one-year deal to return to Minnesota, league sources tell ESPN.

[cjw]

Bobby Marks (https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42)Bob (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9095)byMarks42



With Paul George and Jerami Grant on board, Oklahoma City now has a payroll of $156M with 11 players under contract. Because of the repeater tax penalty, the Thunder currently have a tax bill of $130M. The tax bill would be the largest in NBA history.

Jesus, $32.3mm over the tax. I wonder what a team below the cap can do for them on a Melo trade. Would save them $100+ million.

[raybies]

the sf market is dry af. Only people i liked was Rodney Hood, Mario Hezonja, and Kyle

[ace3g]

At this point I guess Casspi will never join the Spurs...


Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) now (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013284587320070144)
Free agent forward Omri Casspi has agreed to a one-year deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell ESPN.

[LakerHater]

Casspi to Memphis

[tbdog]

Any SFs that can be had for the MLE??

Without Leonard, Gay/Kyle/Green will round the SF position.
Guard position looks set unless Manu retires and Leonard goes without getting a guard back.

Guys Spurs could target at that 10mil mark. Bjelica, Amir Johnson, Noel, Brook Lopez. Would like Jab Parker or Derrick Favours, but they will cost more.

[Ron Swanson]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 32s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013283627210244096)
Free agent Derrick Rose is finalizing a one-year deal to return to Minnesota, league sources tell ESPN.

Thibs will not stop until Rose is dead.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine

(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) now (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013285332484263938)
The Timberwolves began free agency by informing star guard Jimmy Butler that they intend to offer him a maximum contract extension valued in the four-year, $110 million range as soon as he's eligible to sign the deal on July 9, league sources say

[FkLA]

What about Rodney Hood?

[FkLA]

Thibs will not stop until Rose is dead.

:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Interesting that there's no 12:01 news about Kyle.

[raybies]

What about Rodney Hood?

I don't know who would be better... rather have him than Kyle and Utah's system is similar... Didn't he average double figures as a starter?? Kid needs a system. Cleveland was a bad fit.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 16s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013286057528430592)
Free agent guard Marco Belinelli has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with the Spurs, league source tells ESPN.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
·
15s
Free agent guard Marco Belinelli has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with the Spurs, league source tells ESPN.

[NickiRasgo]

Is Ariza pissed with Rockets since they're eyeing on LeBron?

[cjw]

Interesting that there's no 12:01 news about Kyle.

No need to rush it, and I bet he’s hoping a team throws a MLE offer sheet at him. Spurs would prefer to re-up for slightly less.

[Chinook]

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine

(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) now (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013285332484263938)
The Timberwolves began free agency by informing star guard Jimmy Butler that they intend to offer him a maximum contract extension valued in the four-year, $110 million range as soon as he's eligible to sign the deal on July 9, league sources say

I'm sure he'll be all over that after watching an inferior player in PG sign for more than that by just waiting.

[tbdog]

Interesting that there's no 12:01 news about Kyle.

He is restricted. Spurs will let him set his market value.

[Chinook]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 16s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013286057528430592)
Free agent guard Marco Belinelli has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with the Spurs, league source tells ESPN.




Feels too late. Don't like it.

[tbdog]

Feels too late. Don't like it.

Needed shooting. Manu gone?

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) now (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013286732698214400)
Free agent Gerald Green has agreed to a one-year, $2.4M deal to return to Houston, league source tells Yahoo.

[RD2191]

Feels too late. Don't like it.

[PICK-N-ROLL]

Belinilli back

[tim_duncan_fan]

Welcome back, Big Balls!

[99 Problems]

Ferrari sighting

[cjw]

Feels too late. Don't like it.

Better be a team option in year two. But don’t love using the MLE here

[LakerHater]

BELLI

[NickiRasgo]

So that's already a 16M. So the Spurs don't plan pursuing big names in the free agent like LeBron?

[mo7888]

I'm not real excited about the belli signing. Looking at it and the gay signing though, this doesn't look like we are going with a youth movement. You have to wonder or at least consider that we might be looking to trade kawhi for more established veteran players.

[Chinook]

Needed shooting. Manu gone?

They needed shooting but from the forwards spots. Walker and White can already shoot, and either Danny needs to be traded or he'll be shooting. Beli seems like a Bertans replacement more than anything, but Manu may well be retiring.

[SAGirl]

Which I would think would be good for keeping our RFA's, though sounds like Davis maybe gone.
not necessarily, but he's worth more than his QO for sure.

[Chinook]

I'm not real excited about the belli signing. Looking at it and the gay signing though, this doesn't look like we are going with a youth movement. You have to wonder or at least consider that we might be looking to trade kawhi for more established veteran players.

Or maybe they are getting vets because they are having a youth movement. Or they could be including guys like Danny, Patty and Pau in trades.

[RD2191]

And people blaming Kawhi for not wanting to play with this shit roster. :lol

[ducks]

I'm not real excited about the belli signing. Looking at it and the gay signing though, this doesn't look like we are going with a youth movement. You have to wonder or at least consider that we might be looking to trade kawhi for more established veteran players.

Pop wants to win then retire not rebuild with youth

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They needed shooting but from the forwards spots. Walker and White can already shoot, and either Danny needs to be traded or he'll be shooting. Beli seems like a Bertans replacement more than anything, but Manu may well be retiring.

Hopefully more of a Patty replacement, but likely a Danny/Manu replacement.

[BillMc]

They needed shooting but from the forwards spots. Walker and White can already shoot, and either Danny needs to be traded or he'll be shooting. Beli seems like a Bertans replacement more than anything, but Manu may well be retiring.

Maybe KL is staying, whether via extension or 1 year of forced participation.

[SAGirl]

woj bomb
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[Spurs9]

Windy melting down about PG.
https://streamable.com/yzjon
:wakeup

[SAGirl]

Without Leonard, Gay/Kyle/Green will round the SF position.
Guard position looks set unless Manu retires and Leonard goes without getting a guard back.

Guys Spurs could target at that 10mil mark. Bjelica, Amir Johnson, Noel, Brook Lopez. Would like Jab Parker or Derrick Favours, but they will cost more.
Spurs just signed Marco Belinelli

(maybe Manu really is retiring?)

[mo7888]

Or maybe they are getting vets because they are having a youth movement. Or they could be including guys like Danny, Patty and Pau in trades.

I hope it's the latter. All three of those guys should have some trade value. It does feel like there's a plan in place (even though I'm not sure what the plan is). The FO must have a pretty good idea on where kawhi/others are going and for what...

[spurraider21]

Windy melting down about PG.
https://streamable.com/yzjon
:wakeup
:lol thats funny

still think LBJ going to the lakers. hope im wrong

[NASpurs]

Hopefully the Spurs turn off the lights to the office and don't return any calls... call it a summer. No need to re-sign anyone.

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[LakerHater]

The Wolves will reportedly offer Jimmy Butler a four-year max extension

[Chinook]

Maybe KL is staying, whether via extension or 1 year of forced participation.

And I would be happy if he were, because the team can win a title this year with him engaged and the right trade. But they are STILL short a perimeter creator. Even Leonard was never that. Bringing in Milutinov and retaining one or Anderson/Bertans will fill up the interior, but getting that starting-caliber lead guard is the most important task left ahead of them.

Unless of course Lebron comes over in a Kawhi trade. But I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, so it has to be some other player who can make all these pieces work.

[spurraider21]

yeah. marco deal really indicates manu is retiring.

between murray/white/green/walker, there would be no room for marco if manu was returning

[spurraider21]

Hopefully the Spurs turn off the lights to the office and don't return any calls... call it a summer. No need to re-sign anyone.

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i wouldnt mind giving bertans another shot. but parker/forbes should be gone, and anderson shouldnt be overpaid

[kjhip1]

Hopefully the Spurs turn off the lights to the office and don't return any calls... call it a summer. No need to re-sign anyone.

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Writing is on the wall. Wonder who stays.

[Chinook]

I hope it's the latter. All three of those guys should have some trade value. It does feel like there's a plan in place (even though I'm not sure what the plan is). The FO must have a pretty good idea on where kawhi/others are going and for what...

Starters:
Murray


Gay
Aldridge

Bench:

Belinelli



That's as far as I've gotten

[NASpurs]

And I would be happy if he were, because the team can win a title this year with him engaged and the right trade. But they are STILL short a perimeter creator. Even Leonard was never that. Bringing in Milutinov and retaining one or Anderson/Bertans will fill up the interior, but getting that starting-caliber lead guard is the most important task left ahead of them.

Unless of course Lebron comes over in a Kawhi trade. But I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, so it has to be some other player who can make all these pieces work.

The good thing is that Green's and Gasol's contracts are actual assets now. Trade for Kemba :lol

[LakerHater]

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[Joseph Kony]

Indifferent on Bertans/Anderson since the spurs need frontcourt players. But Parker and Forbes can gtfo

[diceman]

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41022269-4


The Spurs with Rudy Gay and now Marco Belinelli project to have $107M in committed salary. The Belinelli contract will hard cap the Spurs at $129M based on the guard using more than the $5.3M midlevel exception.


Bobby Marks, ESPN
1m ago

[Chinook]

yeah. marco deal really indicates manu is retiring.

between murray/white/green/walker, there would be no room for marco if manu was returning

I fully expect Green and Beli to play a lot of SF minutes if they're both on the roster. Manu coming back wouldn't affect that too much. I've been very vocal about how Manu's contract suggested he was going to hang them up, but even if he leaves, I don't think the team can afford to play wings at the guard spots right now.

[Chinook]

1013290031216242689

I guess Lebron will have to take a paycut.

[objective]

And I would be happy if he were, because the team can win a title this year with him engaged and the right trade. But they are STILL short a perimeter creator. Even Leonard was never that. Bringing in Milutinov and retaining one or Anderson/Bertans will fill up the interior, but getting that starting-caliber lead guard is the most important task left ahead of them.

Unless of course Lebron comes over in a Kawhi trade. But I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, so it has to be some other player who can make all these pieces work.

I can't see the remainder of the mle as enough for Milutinov, that's not even 3 million, right?

They really can't go into another year with crap at back up big like last year with Joffrey. They better get someone else, and I don't think Metu or Brimah count

[palangi]

yeah. marco deal really indicates manu is retiring.

between murray/white/green/walker, there would be no room for marco if manu was returning

You would think. But I'm sure pop thinks the rookie needs to get over himself and spend the year in austin

[Chinook]

The good thing is that Green's and Gasol's contracts are actual assets now. Trade for Kemba :lol

Depends on what Charlotte wants. If Green and Murray (or Green, White and Gasol for Walker and Zeller) get it done, I'd be very interested.

I still wouldn't call Gasol an asset though. At best, he might be able to get a useful player who's overpaid on a long-term deal.

[NASpurs]

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[dbestpro]

These type of vet signings are what you do when you plan on Kawhi staying.

[Chinook]

I can't see the remainder of the mle as enough for Milutinov, that's not even 3 million, right?

They really can't go into another year with crap at back up big like last year with Joffrey. They better get someone else, and I don't think Metu or Brimah count

We won't know exactly how much it is until getting Beli's actual contract details. It could be much closer to $11 Million. I also don't think the Spurs are going to blink on Milutinov's deal. $3 Million is more than generous for a player of his caliber coming in. Bogdanovic killed the perception of value, but everyone else before him took reasonable deals to get into the league.

[SAGirl]

Hopefully the Spurs turn off the lights to the office and don't return any calls... call it a summer. No need to re-sign anyone.

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Forbes could always just sign his QO that he was given (to fans dismay I guess).

I think Davis and Kyle will test the market and see what's out there for them.

Parker? I really don't know tbh. He didn't get 12:01 and he's an unrestricted FA.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy AlexKennedyNBA

(https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) now (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1013295002422796289)
The Minnesota Timberwolves, Houston Rockets, New York Knicks and San Antonio Spurs have shown interest in unrestricted free agent Trevor Booker, according to league sources. Returning to the Indiana Pacers is a possibility as well.

[SAGirl]

1013290031216242689
Don't know anything about what being hard cap means.

[ducks]

I want alex for cheap

[Chinook]

Don't know anything about what being hard cap means.

There's literally a hard cap, as in you can't go over it no matter what, if you do certain things in that off-season. Using the non-taxpayer MLE is one of them. Getting a sign-and-traded player is another.

[BatManu20]

No thanks to Trevor Booker.

[Ditty]

No thanks to Trevor Booker.

[objective]

They better rescind that Forbes offer post haste

[KDKSpurs24]

No thanks to Trevor Booker.

[cjw]

There's literally a hard cap, as in you can't go over it no matter what, if you do certain things in that off-season. Using the non-taxpayer MLE is one of them. Getting a sign-and-traded player is another.

Jeff McDonald quoting Paul Garcia on Twitter that they likely used taxpayer MLE. Makes literally zero sense. The hard cap is $20mm above where they currently are and are super unlikely to touch it. Much more likely to use BAE or other part of MLE.

These SAEN reporters are so damn lazy. If half my newspaper just got fired I’d work a little harder.

[objective]

There's literally a hard cap, as in you can't go over it no matter what, if you do certain things in that off-season. Using the non-taxpayer MLE is one of them. Getting a sign-and-traded player is another.

wouldn't it be hard for them to get to the hard cap?

BAE wouldn't even have a roster spot if they keep Anderson and Bertans, and Porker even oinking at a Manu contract isn't that much

Maybe if Utah signs Bertans to a deal starting at 10 I guess

[BatManu20]

Lol no they don't... literally nothing.


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[kjhip1]

LA chasing Boogie, lol

[objective]

Lol no they don't... literally nothing.


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Competitive with what?

[Chinook]

Jeff McDonald quoting Paul Garcia on Twitter that they likely used taxpayer MLE. Makes literally zero sense. The hard cap is $20mm above where they currently are and are super unlikely to touch it. Much more likely to use BAE or other part of MLE.

These SAEN reporters are so damn lazy. If half my newspaper just got fired I’d work a little harder.

Nah, Garcia is usually correct and probably is correct here that SA left themselves the option of going over the apron. They will not do that this season, but it doesn't hurt. Though Paul may have meant non-taxpayer MLE if he was talking about the hard cap. You don't have to declare which one you use. If the contract would fit into the tax version, the NBA lets it go.


wouldn't it be hard for them to get to the hard cap?

BAE wouldn't even have a roster spot if they keep Anderson and Bertans, and Porker even oinking at a Manu contract isn't that much

Maybe if Utah signs Bertans to a deal starting at 10 I guess

Yes, it would be hard, but not impossible. Tony, Kyle and Bertans getting big paydays combined with Leonard being traded with the team picking up salary or any other trades where SA gains against the cap would get them closer. Remember in 2015, the Spurs went from under the cap to over the tax in like one day of signings.

[Chinook]

Lol no they don't... literally nothing.


1013284631393767429

*sigh* Keith used to be on track for a legit career. But he's sort of fallen back since his Griffin leak didn't pan out.

[NASpurs]

Competitive with what?

Lottery balls I'm guessing.

[cjw]

Nah, Garcia is usually correct and probably is correct here that SA left themselves the option of going over the apron. They will not do that this season, but it doesn't hurt. Though Paul may have meant non-taxpayer MLE if he was talking about the hard cap. You don't have to declare which one you use. If the contract would fit into the tax version, the NBA lets it go.



Yes, it would be hard, but not impossible. Tony, Kyle and Bertans getting big paydays combined with Leonard being traded with the team picking up salary or any other trades where SA gains against the cap would get them closer. Remember in 2015, the Spurs went from under the cap to over the tax in like one day of signings.


Got it, so they left themselves the option. Can decide to use more MLE later or have option to not be hard capped.

[Chinook]

Got it, so they left themselves the option. Can decide to use more MLE later or have option to not be hard capped.

Yep. IF Garcia meant it exactly the way you heard/read it, then SA could use the rest and/or the LLE, which would lock them into the hard cap. But if they hold off on using either, then they can go over the apron through various ways and not trigger the hard cap.

[LakerHater]

Cavs general manager Koby Altman spoke to both Rich Paul and LeBron James over the phone at 12:01 a.m., sources tell ESPN.

[LakerHater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg_8FnwU8AAVGNd.jpg:large

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Denver's cap situation is so fucked up.

[Chinook]

Denver's cap situation is so fucked up.

It is. It was one thing when they kept paying mediocre guys when they were a playoff team under Karl. I can't rationalize them overpaying guys when they are on a streak of being in the lottery, though. When do you accept that your guys aren't worth it?

[szkorhetz]

Competitive with what?
Both Harris and Gallo would make a ton of sense IF we can ship out Mills and/or Gasol.
Murray/TP
Bellinelli/Walker
Gallo/Gay
Harris/Bertans
LMA/TBD(Reed?)

Would not beat anyone in the playoffs, but at least, it would be a fun to watch, modern era team, not this old-school, slow team we had in the last couple years

[FlAVaK]

Nik Stauskas agreed with Blazers

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It is. It was one thing when they kept paying mediocre guys when they were a playoff team under Karl. I can't rationalize them overpaying guys when they are on a streak of being in the lottery, though. When do you accept that your guys aren't worth it?

Yep. Fully expect Jokic to be over 300lbs by training camp. They'll probably try to dump Millsap to a team with cap space and trade away their picks for the privilege, so they'll be locked into this line-up. Yuck!

[objective]

Both Harris and Gallo would make a ton of sense IF we can ship out Mills and/or Gasol.
Murray/TP
Bellinelli/Walker
Gallo/Gay
Harris/Bertans
LMA/TBD(Reed?)

Would not beat anyone in the playoffs, but at least, it would be a fun to watch, modern era team, not this old-school, slow team we had in the last couple years

Unfortunately Gallo's body has fallen apart, I don't think he ever plays more than half a season the rest of his career

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[NASpurs]

Tank for Okafor... I mean sign Okafor for the minimum.

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[cutewizard]

Can we get the Manimal??

[cutewizard]

Marcus Smart , Avery Bradley and the Manimal please.......

[spurraider21]

Can we get the Manimal??
awful post

[DAF86]

PG: Murray, Mills, White
SG: Green, Manu, Belli, Walker, Paul
SF: Kawhi, Gay
PF: Aldridge
C: Gasol, Metu

That's how our roster looks right now. I guess the Kawhi trade will involve múltiple SF's coming. And one of either Anderson or Bertans is coming back.

[DAF86]

Also, unless Manu is retiring, it seems like there will be no place for Tony.

[DAF86]

PG: Murray, Mills, White
SG: Green, Manu, Belli, Walker, Paul
SF: Kawhi, Gay
PF: Aldridge
C: Gasol, Metu

That's how our roster looks right now. I guess the Kawhi trade will involve múltiple SF's coming. And one of either Anderson or Bertans is coming back.

Although, in PATFO's notebook, this probably looks more like:

PG: Murray, White
SG: Mills, Belli, Walker
SF: Green, Manu, Paul
PF: Gay
C: Aldridge, Pau, Metu

With Kawhi outside just waiting to be traded.

So maybe they think that with just bringing Tony, Anderson and Bertans back, they are set.

[tbdog]

Although, in PATFO's notebook, this probably looks more like:

PG: Murray, White
SG: Mills, Belli, Walker
SF: Green, Manu, Paul
PF: Gay
C: Aldridge, Pau, Metu

With Kawhi outside just waiting to be traded.

So maybe they think that with just bringing Tony, Anderson and Bertans back, they are set.

And that's not a bad thing. Although we really need another big.

[DAF86]

And that's not a bad thing. Although we really need another big.

Meh, more of the same hopeless boring season we got this past season, with Belli instead of Forbes. Not really good, tbh.

I hope they either make amends with Kawhi, or they get something promising with his trade.

Also, White and Walker need to be on the rotation. If Manu has to retire, then so be it. I still don't understand the Belli signing.

[tbdog]

Meh, more of the same hopeless boring season we got this past season, with Belli instead of Forbes. Not really good, tbh.

I hope they either make amends with Kawhi, or they get something promising with his trade.

Also, White and Walker need to be on the rotation. If Manu has to retire, then so be it. I still don't understand the Belli signing.

Obviously, MPV Leonard is the key here. But it would be good to come into the season without Leonard on injury management, without Parker on injury management, without Gay on injury management. Then just go out there and play.

[playblair]

Can we get the Manimal??

he is the best rebounder in the nba since blair........manimal would bring toughness to spurs big rotation

[cutewizard]

he is the best rebounder in the nba since blair........manimal would bring toughness to spurs big rotation


Precisely my point good Sir....

[Emperor]

Wtf are ya smokin? Lol.

[duncan2150]

So what we still have after beli and gay ? Beli probably take a part of the MLE, so it’s Still something like 3/3.5 million of the MLE and the BAE right ?

[jyra]

When was the last time the Spurs actually used the BAE to sign someone, De Colo?

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQs6B4Xr9A

[ace3g]

I wonder if Spurs will re-visit the Stanley Johnson/Pistons trade?

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMCXWNKjPWE

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn2QwqMo5Gw

[cutewizard]

Belli can mentor the young guards of the Spurs,

Murray, White and Walker!!!!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S34q_b0jYU

[ace3g]

Eurohoops.net @Eurohoopsnet
(https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet) 3m (https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1013409534260506624)
Chris Singleton eyes NBA return, no offer from Panathinaikos | Eurohoops eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/… (https://t.co/qCJoawxgvb)

[sasaint]

Although, in PATFO's notebook, this probably looks more like:

PG: Murray, White
SG: Mills, Belli, Walker
SF: Green, Manu, Paul
PF: Gay
C: Aldridge, Pau, Metu

With Kawhi outside just waiting to be traded.

So maybe they think that with just bringing Tony, Anderson and Bertans back, they are set.

We will fill at least a couple of slots with the return on Kawhi.

[sasaint]

I wonder if Spurs will re-visit the Stanley Johnson/Pistons trade?

Please No!

[sasaint]

Meh, more of the same hopeless boring season we got this past season, with Belli instead of Forbes. Not really good, tbh.

I hope they either make amends with Kawhi, or they get something promising with his trade.

Also, White and Walker need to be on the rotation. If Manu has to retire, then so be it. I still don't understand the Belli signing.

I believe it indicates Manu is not coming back. Beli's game has some similarities plus he is familiar with Spurs culture.

[Dverde]

Two former players signing today shows the organization in a great light :bobo

[cutewizard]

This video is fun to watch....

I miss the Admiral!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvak2JkvQ_8

[buttsR4rebounding]

Eurohoops.net @Eurohoopsnet
(https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet) 3m (https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1013409534260506624)
Chris Singleton eyes NBA return, no offer from Panathinaikos | Eurohoops eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/… (https://t.co/qCJoawxgvb)

l would love to see the Spurs give him a shot. He has been huge defensively and shoots 45% from 3.

[sasaint]

Two former players signing today shows the organization in a great light :bobo

That's a good sub-plot in this year of uncharacteristic drama.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qdySjUV8tk