Spurs 2018 offseason thread

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F53vp7H0glU

[cutewizard]

Was that review accurate??

[cutewizard]

I think the defense will just be fine, and the offense will be enhanced with Derozan, Marco, and Jacob!!!

[bklynspursfan]

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[ace3g]

BmOpiNrAyNS

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ECarchia/status/1030101885955518466

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/PackDT/status/1029933432921616384

[Kikoluna2018]

The lineup is not that bad as people make our out to be. We should be the 3rd best team record wise in the West- behind the warriors and rockets. Kyle is gone, Marco. Is back. Derozan and gay are solid.

[ace3g]

BmKSE3ogtKF

[dbestpro]

Chris Haynes: Free agent forward Bruno Caboclo, Houston have reach an agreement, league sources tell ESPN.

[kobyz]

i met LMA the other day in Jerusalem, we talk some basketball, tried to ask him about Kawhi situation, he had no comment.

[tonight...you]

i met LMA the other day in Jerusalem, we talk some basketball, tried to ask him about Kawhi, he had no comment.
Very cool...
You live in Israel?

[kobyz]

Very cool...
You live in Israel?

yes

[tonight...you]

yes
Huh...
Well wishes upon you.

[Strategic]

Israel, Texas?

[LittleCriminal]

https://www.emugifs.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/You-Dont-Mess-With-the-Zohan-Super-Agent-Zohan-Scene.gif

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1030886434847248385

[cutewizard]

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Beyond Splitter, tbh

[cutewizard]

https://twitter.com/kmurphyvisports/status/1028432417638559747

Timmy rules!!!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ECarchia/status/1031614507817287685

[BackHome]

Man Belli looks like he is a man on a mission supper excited for this new year!!!!

[cutewizard]

https://twitter.com/ECarchia/status/1031614507817287685


Theres a loyal Spur!!!

[cutewizard]

Man Belli looks like he is a man on a mission supper excited for this new year!!!!


I second the motion.....!!!

[skookumchuck]

https://twitter.com/ECarchia/status/1031614507817287685


Bertans did the same last week or maybe a bit earlier. Says he wants to focus on establishing his new role with the team. Said he would've played for the NT in September if only offered the minimum and uncertain role/PT.

[YGWHI]

Nice to see this from Beli and Davis. Like Rudy said last week, it seems like every Spurs player will play with a chip on their shoulders. :tu

[YGWHI]

Never liked this show, Nick is just a clown but finally they're right on something...I love the part "by any measure"

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[ace3g]

BmwmdsOH44N

[daslicer]

Never liked this show, Nick is just a clown but finally they're right on something...I love the part "by any measure"

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It's funny how Nick is now giving Duncan props when a year ago in the spring of 2017 he dissed Duncan. I'll never forget a rant he went on when he said that Duncan was never the best player in the league during his time with SA. I guess Duncan is now great in Nick's eyes since he hates Kobe for going against his god Lebron.

[dbestpro]

Would like to see Dangubic get a shot at SF. His tape shows a very athletic dunking machine who can hit the three. At the age of 25, now is the time for him to be here.

[Duncan87]

Deroazan tweets “patiently waiting “. Wonder what he talking about anyone?

[FireMicoHalili]

Jamal Crawford at SA airport. Sorry no pics
hmmm

[Dancer]

Do anyone know if the spurs have been in touch with jamal crawford

[weeks]

Deroazan tweets “patiently waiting “. Wonder what he talking about anyone?

Probably for the season to start

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/CoachDouglas21/status/1032638029658238976

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1032663234174746624

[YGWHI]

It's funny how Nick is now giving Duncan props when a year ago in the spring of 2017 he dissed Duncan. I'll never forget a rant he went on when he said that Duncan was never the best player in the league during his time with SA. I guess Duncan is now great in Nick's eyes since he hates Kobe for going against his god Lebron.
Agreed. Nick also said last season that a former Spur wasn't even top 20 because he couldn't play a whole season but this summer he was saying the same player was a top 3 in the league just because there was a chance this player to join LeBron in LA. Nick is all about LBJ. Still can't believe that both guys, Carter and Wright, have a show on TV. Just pathetic.

[FireMicoHalili]

i met LMA the other day in Jerusalem, we talk some basketball, tried to ask him about Kawhi situation, he had no comment.
I’ve always wondered what LMA thought of Kawhi wanting out, especially from someone who felt the same way before.

[bklynspursfan]

I’ve always wondered what LMA thought of Kawhi wanting out, especially from someone who felt the same way before.

Aldridge wanted out for bball reasons at least.

[playblair]

i met LMA the other day in Jerusalem, we talk some basketball, tried to ask him about Kawhi situation, he had no comment.

lma is the reason kawhi was confident enough to demand a trade...........lma has been a cancer to the spurs culture............every spurs problem can be traced back to the signing of lma..........lma requesting a trade lead to kawhi being comfortable enough to do the same

[BackHome]

No K-Y crazy Uncle was the reason oh and Daboom and TheGreatShit saying they would give K-Y life time ass wipping if he would leave SA.

[daslicer]

lma is the reason kawhi was confident enough to demand a trade...........lma has been a cancer to the spurs culture............every spurs problem can be traced back to the signing of lma..........lma requesting a trade lead to kawhi being comfortable enough to do the same

I wouldn't go that far. Kawhi's Uncle was determined to get him out of SA. They would have demanded a trade even in a perfect universe where LMA does not demand a trade.

[Immortal Spur]

Late August and Manu hasn’t made decision. He gone.

[kobyz]

I wouldn't go that far. Kawhi's Uncle was determined to get him out of SA. They would have demanded a trade even in a perfect universe where LMA does not demand a trade.

spurs should have fired pop if that what it took to keep kawhi, big mistake to give him up that easily...

[daslicer]

spurs should have fired pop if that what it took to keep kawhi, big mistake to give him up that easily...

Only scenario where Kawhi would have stayed is if the spurs got Uncle Dennis assassinated. His Uncle was the ultimate decider in this situation and he was hellbent in getting Kawhi to LA. You need to let it go there was no chance in hell of Kawhi ever staying.

[SpursDynasty85]

spurs should have fired pop if that what it took to keep kawhi, big mistake to give him up that easily...

Kawhi's public stance has always been that it was the Spurs organization and training staff and not Pop. Of course who or what can you trust with such a nonsensical story from their side?

[sasaint]

Kawhi's public stance has always been that it was the Spurs organization and training staff and not Pop. Of course who or what can you trust with such a nonsensical story from their side?

There was the story/leak/narrative that Kawhi wanted lighter workouts, which seemed oddly inconsistent with his gym-rat persona. And the later story/leak (accompanied by the story of his having to walk to the All-Star game in New Orleans) that he didn't like how controlling PATFO was.

[Spur|n|Austin]

spurs should have fired pop if that what it took to keep kawhi, big mistake to give him up that easily...

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[SpursDynasty85]

There was the story/leak/narrative that Kawhi wanted lighter workouts, which seemed oddly inconsistent with his gym-rat persona. And the later story/leak (accompanied by the story of his having to walk to the All-Star game in New Orleans) that he didn't like how controlling PATFO was.

They are all over the place. Which of course is why most Spurs fans and majority of sports fans felt Kawhi turned his back on the Spurs, fans, and team. Nothing credible has come out to refute otherwise.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1033104669537710080

[phxspurfan]

Jamal Crawford at SA airport. Sorry no pics

Spurs do have a long history of bringing in friends of their star players...

[cutewizard]

Jamal could have a potent contribution in developing our young guards

[cutewizard]

Manu could retire or reinvent himself as some sort of PLAYING COACH.....

[objective]

To me, Jamal would be a bad risk.

One, he's about washed up, not making shots anymore and getting even worse on defense.

Two, he'll probably block the progress and minutes of Derrick White

Three, if Pop eventually benches Crawford for being washed up, he's right there to poison Dejounte with talk about how disrespectful the team is, how bad they treat players, Kawhi was right, watch yourself, etc etc. Never forget 'classy' Micheal Finley, who tanked until he was given the starter job and was given the 07 winning game ball iirc. What did classy Finley do the minute Pop finally realized he was washed and benched him and took his minutes down to nothing, about two years later than he should? Finley immediately asked for release so he could join a 'contender'. He was a class fraud

Similar risk with Crawford considering how much Dejounte looks up to him.

Coaching intern? Yes. Player? No. Regardless of Manu.

[sasaint]

To me, Jamal would be a bad risk.

One, he's about washed up, not making shots anymore and getting even worse on defense.

Two, he'll probably block the progress and minutes of Derrick White

Three, if Pop eventually benches Crawford for being washed up, he's right there to poison Dejounte with talk about how disrespectful the team is, how bad they treat players, Kawhi was right, watch yourself, etc etc. Never forget 'classy' Micheal Finley, who tanked until he was given the starter job and was given the 07 winning game ball iirc. What did classy Finley do the minute Pop finally realized he was washed and benched him and took his minutes down to nothing, about two years later than he should? Finley immediately asked for release so he could join a 'contender'. He was a class fraud

Similar risk with Crawford considering how much Dejounte looks up to him.

Coaching intern? Yes. Player? No. Regardless of Manu.

All of that PLUS the Spurs need a SF not another SG.

[Duncan87]

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[Larry O]

IF Crawford is a potential signing by SAS, I have mixed feelings about this. Yeah, he may not have anything left in the tank, but more importantly, he doesn't fit the bill for the glaring need, which is the 3 position. Perhaps he can have a resurgence in his twilight career, playing alongside Murray, whom I'm sure that he would love and benefit from playing next to his idol. But the BIG question is: would either Crawford or Manu, or both, have a big impact on the player development of the younger players from a negative standpoint? Oh yeah, retaining Ginobili or signing Crawford for the vet minimum, on one hand, would secure needed veteran leadership on the bench and in the locker room, but again, what about the SF position and playing time for the younger players? Since SAS may have already maxed out its salary cap, the only thing I believe is available is vet minimum deals, rookie salaries, and two-way contracts, let alone, the roster spots are just about completely filled up. SAS needs a SF who can defend and possibly score. So, who is available out there who is "Spursiy enough;" knows the system and can be had for the cheap, cause for one, this organization is very frugal, and secondly, they are too loyal to trade. But right now, I believe that the decision making outcome is hinging on Ginobili's decision, and at the end of the day, I can see SAS possibly making their decision by keeping it "in house" by signing someone like Blossomgame to a rookie deal or to a two-way contract. But once Manu's decision has been made, then I think that SAS will move forward with who will be invited/available for preseason training camp and beyond. Time will tell, but GSG!!!

[tbdog]

I think I read that crawford was the worst player in the league last year in a certain minute category. Plus I think we have enough offense options and we need more dependable defenders with size, ie SF. Unfortunately, there is nothing left, and whoever the Spurs wan to get now will be the 15th of even 17th player. May as well just stick with Hillard. The only reasonable trade target that spurs could swap Mills with is Harkless. And although this is an upgrade in a position of need, its a downgrade in a player to player swap. For it to happen, Murray, white, Walker and Forbes all would need to be playing well enough to just dump Mills without giving up a pick. Porter from Washington could be had. I think the Wizards may part with him due to the bloated contract.

[YGWHI]

Engelmann's big crush this offseason...He's making ton of graphics with this.

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[r0drig0lac]

Just thinking about signing crawford is a complete joke, he is everything the team does not need, so I really believe there's a chance he'll play for SA in the next season.

[RD2191]

Just thinking about signing crawford is a complete joke, he is everything the team does not need, so I really believe there's a chance he'll play for SA in the next season.

:lol

[Drewlius]

I wish we had interest in Corey Brewer. He doesn’t provide everything we need(His 3pt shot is pretty terrible). But he’s a smart vet with length. Good spark plug off the bench, can be utilized as a SF/PF in Small Ball lineups, and can give you 15 minutes of above average defense.

[Duncan87]

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[Duncan87]

Pic off some article that says what would be best fit for Jamal. Kinda odd looking

[Larry O]

Hmmm... after reading articles on Crawford on Bleacher Report and Hoops Hype, he's interested in joining the 76ers. Says that he likes Brett Brown, Embiid, Simmons, and has ties with Fultz (University of Washington alums) and of course, JJ Reddick, in whom they were teammates when they played for the Clippers. Now, according to Hoops Hype, Crawford didn't like playing 20 minutes a game in Minnesota. DUH!!! What does he expect to play, minutes wise, if he were to play for the 76ers, or the Spurs, let's say, or let alone, for any other team. Come on, the dude is like 37 years old, and he wants to play like 3 more years, lol! Yeah, he gives you instant offense, and can create his own shots, and plays off the dribble, but that's it. All I can say about him is... MEH. .. But I didn't see any rumors of mutual interest of SAS, and Crawford, other than what the pundits feel what would be his best fit. But, if he were to sign with the Spurs, I won't be surprised, but a bit disappointed though. We'll see. .. GSG!!!

[Gordy58]

Why haven’t we signed Metu yet? What’s the hold up, and I really hope we win to Jaron to a two way contract at least.

[TimDunkem]

^Wouldn't be fair to the guys ahead of them. Bryn has babies to feed. :pop:

[Gordy58]

Why haven’t we signed Metu yet? What’s the hold up, and I really hope we win to Jaron to a two way contract at least.

[tonight...you]

^Wouldn't be fair to the guys ahead of them. Bryn has babies to feed. :pop:
Doesn't anybody care about the babies?!

[monkeypunk]

Solid take. Every minute he took would hinder White's production.


To me, Jamal would be a bad risk.

One, he's about washed up, not making shots anymore and getting even worse on defense.

Two, he'll probably block the progress and minutes of Derrick White

Three, if Pop eventually benches Crawford for being washed up, he's right there to poison Dejounte with talk about how disrespectful the team is, how bad they treat players, Kawhi was right, watch yourself, etc etc. Never forget 'classy' Micheal Finley, who tanked until he was given the starter job and was given the 07 winning game ball iirc. What did classy Finley do the minute Pop finally realized he was washed and benched him and took his minutes down to nothing, about two years later than he should? Finley immediately asked for release so he could join a 'contender'. He was a class fraud

Similar risk with Crawford considering how much Dejounte looks up to him.

Coaching intern? Yes. Player? No. Regardless of Manu.

[phxspurfan]

Engelmann's big crush this offseason...He's making ton of graphics with this.

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A part of it could be the team fines u get for shooting long 2's on the Rockettes

[BackHome]

Sad Manu is gone so we really have a need at SF!! So our team is at 13 with two open roster spots and two open two way G League contracts. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting hopefully will see Hanga, ND, and Nikola invites to summer camp.

[objective]

Does Manu get stretched? It might make sense for this season with them being so close to the tax.

[Mal]

This offseason sucks

[Chinook]

Does Manu get stretched? It might make sense for this season with them being so close to the tax.

Waiving Paul and replacing him with two rookies would keep the team pretty comfortably away from the tax. That's even more true if Cun's contract is for the min rather than the remainder of the MLE.

[NASpurs]

Still no fucking playmaker on the team. The best one is 41 and just retired.

[BackHome]

Will not get another player like Manu in our lifetime

[BackHome]

Waiving Paul and replacing him with two rookies would keep the team pretty comfortably away from the tax. That's even more true if Cun's contract is for the min rather than the remainder of the MLE.

Would love to loose Gasol and bring in Nikola and bring in Hanga or ND to replace SF. That would still leave us at 14 with a slot open.

Man with Green, Tony, and now Manu gone Pop is going to coach his ass off

[objective]

Waiving Paul and replacing him with two rookies would keep the team pretty comfortably away from the tax. That's even more true if Cun's contract is for the min rather than the remainder of the MLE.

I was thinking more about how much they could take back in trade and not hit the limitations that kick in with the tax. Last week I played around on the trade machine and a damn Mills for Terrence Ross trade wouldn't work because it slipped them in the tax just enough to have to abide by the 125%. Trade Machine isn't always accurate for current salary, so it could have easily just been a machine error.

[Chinook]

I was thinking more about how much they could take back in trade and not hit the limitations that kick in with the tax. Last week I played around on the trade machine and a damn Mills for Terrence Ross trade wouldn't work because it slipped them in the tax just enough to have to abide by the 125%. Trade Machine isn't always accurate for current salary, so it could have easily just been a machine error.

I hope that wasn't a direct trade, because Patty makes more than Ross. Anyway, if Cunningham is a min deal, then the Spurs have the room to sign a rookie-min guy and still use the LLE. They aren't that close to the tax.

[BillMc]

Which young player benefits the most from Manu retiring? White? Walker? Forbes? Davis?

[Spurs da champs]

Which young player benefits the most from Manu retiring? White? Walker? Forbes? Davis?

It has to be White.

[Duncan87]

Now kinda need Jamal Crawford just in case Bryn or White hit a wall Right???

[Duncan87]

Rodney Stucky was trying to make a comeback worth a call???

[objective]

I hope that wasn't a direct trade, because Patty makes more than Ross. Anyway, if Cunningham is a min deal, then the Spurs have the room to sign a rookie-min guy and still use the LLE. They aren't that close to the tax.

Sorry, it wasn't Ross, it was DeMarre Carroll.

[Chinook]

Sorry, it wasn't Ross, it was DeMarre Carroll.

That would be close, but I don't think PATFO would have any interest in that trade, and I'm almost completely sure Brooklyn wouldn't either. If for some reason there was enough interest in moving Mills for a player making that much, it'd likely be later in the year enough to include Forbes or other off-setting salary to make it work anyway. Anything happening right now would need to involve Gasol.

[Fusternino]

Honestly at this point I'd rather just sign Blossomgame and Metu and forget about the whole Quincy Acy thing.

[Immortal Spur]

I’m ok with blossomgame and metu

[BackHome]

Rather have players with more experience ND and Nikola and more upside.

[Em-City]

Honestly at this point I'd rather just sign Blossomgame and Metu and forget about the whole Quincy Acy thing.
you mean quincy pondexter?

[KDKSpurs24]

you mean quincy pondexter?
I’m sure he meant Acy. Plenty of people have been mentioning picking up Acy but instead the team just signed Pondexter.

[Fusternino]

I’m sure he meant Acy. Plenty of people have been mentioning picking up Acy but instead the team just signed Pondexter.

Kind of a bummer, really.

[YGWHI]

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Woj: "Lots of teams in the league think [Kevin Durant] will be in play and that there's a chance that he could be recruited away from [GSW]. He could re-sign with them for $200M+, and that doesn't seem, right now, to be the most important factor for him or for anybody else."

"I think the Knicks will get somebody next year. I think the Knicks have put themselves in a position where — I think there's going to be enough movement. ... I think they get a real — I don't know which one it is, but I think they're in position to potentially get a guy."

"The Pacers would've done a deal to trade Paul George to the Lakers if they got the #2 pick in the 2017 draft (which Los Angeles ended up using on Lonzo Ball) or Brandon Ingram"

So KD could stay in GS or not... NYK, Clippers, Nets and every team with a max slot could get "someone" next season... :rolleyes

[YGWHI]

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I wonder HOW Memphis and Sacramento got better this offseason.

[SpurPadre]

If we surprise and become serious contenders missing an extra piece...would Manu come back after the All Star break?

[KDKSpurs24]

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I wonder HOW Memphis and Sacramento got better this offseason.
Can’t speak for Sacramento but Memphis wasn’t healthy.

[Dex]

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oof.

[Dex]

Can’t speak for Sacramento but Memphis wasn’t healthy.

This.

Phoenix got Ayton.

Dallas got Doncic.

Memphis is getting a healthy Conley back.

Sacramento...well, they are still just the Kings and will suck forever.

[BillMc]

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oof.

Man the HEB commercials are going to be weird this year.

[NASpurs]

https://i.imgur.com/3uIdNk5.jpg

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/brkicks/status/1034621364488085504

[sasaint]

Man the HEB commercials are going to be weird this year.

Patty, LMA, Pau and Ferrari (?) are HEB vets. Dijon and DeMar would be obvious additions... But Patty and Dijon are the only guys with enough "stage presence" to be major guys in those commercials. HEB may have to adjust its pattern.

[sasaint]

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oof.

Impactful graphic.

[ace3g]

Manu will still be part of the "SRV" commercials.

[Coach X]

Which young player benefits the most from Manu retiring? White? Walker? Forbes? Davis?
I'd say White. I think the plan for Walker still is to be full time in Austin but Manu's retirement opens a small door for him to earn a rotation spot during training camp. Forbes will fight with both of them too for the 4th and 5th guard spot behind DeRozan, Murray, Mills. Brynn should be a good sparring partner for White and Walker (to me that's the only reason that justifies his presence in the roster).
Pondexter will try to make the team and if he finally does, he would be competing for SF minutes with Belinelli, Cunningham, Bertans?
Aldridge, Gay, Gasol, Poetl, Bertans, Cunningham will take the minutes at the 4 and 5 positions.

The roster is not perfect or ideal, for sure, but is well balanced and blends inside/outside game, expertise/youth, etc. Its flexibility offers multiple on-court combinations to Popovich, as there are a good number of players able of playing different positions. Another way of structuring the team :
Guards: Murray, DeRozan, Mills, White, Forbes, Walker
Wings-forwards: Belinelli, Gay, Bertans, Cunningham, Pondexter
Bigs: Aldridge, Poetl, Gasol

Add the 2-way contracts and maybe leave a free spot to operate in February depending on team needs. The trade deadline scenario looks good for the Spurs this season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

do u guys think spurs can develop another player better then KL?

does walker have that potential or he going to end up like the former walker the spurs wasted a draft pick on back in the day?

[Fusternino]

Still think we should go get the other Quincy anyways.

[BackHome]

Hell no to Pondexter

[tonight...you]

Hell no to Pondexter
The new HOTS

[ceperez]

I'd say White. I think the plan for Walker still is to be full time in Austin but Manu's retirement opens a small door for him to earn a rotation spot during training camp. Forbes will fight with both of them too for the 4th and 5th guard spot behind DeRozan, Murray, Mills. Brynn should be a good sparring partner for White and Walker (to me that's the only reason that justifies his presence in the roster).
Pondexter will try to make the team and if he finally does, he would be competing for SF minutes with Belinelli, Cunningham, Bertans?
Aldridge, Gay, Gasol, Poetl, Bertans, Cunningham will take the minutes at the 4 and 5 positions.

The roster is not perfect or ideal, for sure, but is well balanced and blends inside/outside game, expertise/youth, etc. Its flexibility offers multiple on-court combinations to Popovich, as there are a good number of players able of playing different positions. Another way of structuring the team :
Guards: Murray, DeRozan, Mills, White, Forbes, Walker
Wings-forwards: Belinelli, Gay, Bertans, Cunningham, Pondexter
Bigs: Aldridge, Poetl, Gasol

Add the 2-way contracts and maybe leave a free spot to operate in February depending on team needs. The trade deadline scenario looks good for the Spurs this season.

Looks decent considering losing 4 players from 2014.

What does the Spurs "Death Lineup" look like?

Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Cunningham, Aldridge

[phxspurfan]

What does the Spurs "Death Lineup" look like?

:pop: Forbes, Mills, Belinelli, DeRozan, Gay :pop:

[Seventyniner]

The new centerpiece

fify

[Coach X]

do u guys think spurs can develop another player better then KL?

does walker have that potential or he going to end up like the former walker the spurs wasted a draft pick on back in the day?

I think nobody on Earth expected that progression. The franchise has been developing young players successfully for years, getting the best of them on their seasons in San Antonio. Every player is different and many factors have an impact on this process. Lonnie Walker seems to be a talented player which gives him the potential to become a good player. Let's see how he starts the journey before discussing how high can he reach. In the meantime, we can trust the kid and be optimistic.


Looks decent considering losing 4 players from 2014.

What does the Spurs "Death Lineup" look like?

Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Cunningham, Aldridge

I guess it's hard to say, further than Aldridge, Gay, DeRozan. I'd say Mills can close some games if his defensive matchup is not a problem for the team. Murray should be solid enough for Pop to trust him. You can imagine Belinelli taking a needed 3pt after a timeout... Maybe Bertans becomes that versatile forward the team needs? Will one of the veterans or even one of the youngsters have a chance? I have no idea tbh.

[tonight...you]

fify
Lol... true.

[tbdog]

I think nobody on Earth expected that progression. The franchise has been developing young players successfully for years, getting the best of them on their seasons in San Antonio. Every player is different and many factors have an impact on this process. Lonnie Walker seems to be a talented player which gives him the potential to become a good player. Let's see how he starts the journey before discussing how high can he reach. In the meantime, we can trust the kid and be optimistic.



I guess it's hard to say, further than Aldridge, Gay, DeRozan. I'd say Mills can close some games if his defensive matchup is not a problem for the team. Murray should be solid enough for Pop to trust him. You can imagine Belinelli taking a needed 3pt after a timeout... Maybe Bertans becomes that versatile forward the team needs? Will one of the veterans or even one of the youngsters have a chance? I have no idea tbh.

Leonard came into the league a plus defender and rebounder for his position. He learnt to spot up shoot during the lockout. After that, all his moves and footwork etc etc, came from hours of practice. The spurs staff taught him bit by bit, then one season after next they let him use those moves. It all just came together. But his strength and defensive instincts cannot really be taught. It's something you have. The rest was hard work and luck.

[SpursDynasty85]

Leonard came into the league a plus defender and rebounder for his position. He learnt to spot up shoot during the lockout. After that, all his moves and footwork etc etc, came from hours of practice. The spurs staff taught him bit by bit, then one season after next they let him use those moves. It all just came together. But his strength and defensive instincts cannot really be taught. It's something you have. The rest was hard work and luck.

You aren't lying. Not to mention his hands, wingspan on top of that ridiculous strength.

[r0drig0lac]

Sources: The San Antonio Spurs and second-round pick Chimezie Metu have agreed on a three-year rookie deal. Team is high on the former USC standout.

[Strategic]

do u guys think spurs can develop another player better then KL?

does walker have that potential or he going to end up like the former walker the spurs wasted a draft pick on back in the day? Nice try.

[Chinook]

Sources: The San Antonio Spurs and second-round pick Chimezie Metu have agreed on a three-year rookie deal. Team is high on the former USC standout.

Awesome. Thanks to TD21 I found out that Cunningham was signed with the LLE rather than the MLE. That left open the chance to offer long-term deals to a number of players. Love that they seem to have done it with Metu. Hope they do it with a couple more.

[Duncan87]

https://twitter.com/DefPenHoops/status/1035206597549731840/photo/1

[Duncan87]

Tony looks pretty good shape. 😢

[SAGirl]

Tony looks pretty good shape. 
He does, but he also seemed really happy to play for Charlotte. Got to be happy for him. Good thing for Tony fans is you can always catch a game from Charlotte online or something if you have the blues.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/731610/nemanja-dangubic-bayern-reportedly-close-to-a-deal/

[SpurSpike]

Tony looks pretty good shape. 

Tony still has plenty of gas in the tank. Many people discounted him last year but remember he came back early from a horrible injury, he was not 100% last year. He should be closer to his old self this year.

These injuries are devastating and take a while to recover from. Just because they are cleared to play does not mean they are 100%. Just look at Rudy gay he said he wasn't feeling 100% until this summer. I expect Rudy to show his prime form this year too.

[Dverde]

He does, but he also seemed really happy to play for Charlotte. Got to be happy for him. Good thing for Tony fans is you can always catch a game from Charlotte online or something if you have the blues.

It’s a good setup for him. Play with one of his best friends, hang out with his childhood idol, and lowered expectations (2nd round versus championship). Wish him the best!

[SpursDynasty85]

It’s a good setup for him. Play with one of his best friends, hang out with his childhood idol, and lowered expectations (2nd round versus championship). Wish him the best!

Ultimately more playing time. I think this will be a good thing for his career. There just wasn't a place for him anymore on the Spurs. TP9 hope you get your 3 more years.

[timtonymanu]

David West retired. He got his free rings on the way out.

[SAGirl]

David West retired. He got his free rings on the way out.
Yup just saw that and logged back to share it but just bumping your post will do. It was expected at this point. With Demarcus Cousins as well as their young bigs I think he knew he would start getting DNP-old very soon. It was time. And he got his rings on the way out.

[Dex]

https://www.nba.com/spurs/roster

Spurs currently have Hilliard listed on the roster website, putting the standing roster at 16. Anyone know if this is accurate?

[bklynspursfan]

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[Dex]

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Well, looks like Hilliard is there working out, so that may answer my question.

[Duncan87]

Josh mcroberts left to Tim???

[bklynspursfan]

Josh mcroberts left to Tim???

Looks like it

[r0drig0lac]

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nice

[Duncan87]

Josh huestis??? Also maybe camp invites

[NASpurs]

Isn't training camp in like 4 weeks? Is it normal for almost all the roster to be there a month before the official training camp starts?

[TheGreatYacht]

There's a lot more pictures, including some of Manu. It's on @ creativelb5 on Instagram.... Hopefully one of y'all posts all of them :tu I also believe Gerald Henderson is there but I'm not too sure since he's blurred due to the focus on Demar.

[NASpurs]

Gerald Henderson pic


https://i.redd.it/66jn8bdygaj11.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

^ that's the pic I was talking about. That has to be Gerald Henderson, right?

[NASpurs]

Manu's at the practice too

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[bklynspursfan]

http://i63.tinypic.com/f5dpag.png

[NASpurs]

(click the arrows on the right side of the pic to see more)

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[bklynspursfan]

http://i63.tinypic.com/px4xz.png



http://i67.tinypic.com/2012b88.png

[davidbowie]

god i love seeing tim there still working out with the team. helping the new guys adjust and what not

demar is gonna ball out

[Dex]

Isn't training camp in like 4 weeks? Is it normal for almost all the roster to be there a month before the official training camp starts?

Does seem damn early. I'm liking the fire from the guys though...lots of chips on shoulders this season.

[bklynspursfan]

Does seem damn early. I'm liking the fire from the guys though...lots of chips on shoulders this season.

Hell yea.. I love it. So many new faces, guys like Manu/TP/DG are gone, any extra time they get together is important

[Gordy58]

Who’s the white Australian looking dude in the picture?

[szkorhetz]

I'm pumped, TBH.

[NASpurs]

Well, looks like Hilliard is there working out, so that may answer my question.

Wait which one is Hilliard in those pics? The dude with the beard? People are saying that's Huestis.

[Dex]

Who’s the white Australian looking dude in the picture?

I'm thinking Matt Costello (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a8EBclnw1aA/maxresdefault.jpg), but hard to say for sure.

[Dex]

Wait which one is Hilliard in those pics? The dude with the beard? People are saying that's Huestis.

Looks like Hilliard to me, but I could be wrong.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/2578259.png&w=350&h=254

[SpursDynasty85]

Looks like Hilliard to me, but I could be wrong.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/2578259.png&w=350&h=254

Doesn't look like him to me. Plus Hilliard is signed to a European team. He is no longer a spur and nearly impossible that he will be this upcoming season.

[NASpurs]

Looks like Hilliard to me, but I could be wrong.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/2578259.png&w=350&h=254

Totally looks like Huestis to me.

https://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/big/teams/thunder/2018/04/29/2071614/1524963437247-180428_Huestis-2071614-2.576x324.jpg

[Pavlov]

I'm thinking Matt Costello, but hard to say for sure.

Costello signed in Italy earlier this month. The McRoberts guess seems more plausible.

[Dex]

Doesn't look like him to me. Plus Hilliard is signed to a European team. He is no longer a spur and nearly impossible that he will be this upcoming season.

Didn't know that. Spurs still have him listed on the roster on nba.com, but...that's nba.com for you. :lol

[Dex]

Costello signed in Italy earlier this month. The McRoberts guess seems more plausible.

Thanks. Sideshow McBob would be an interesting training camp invite.

[Duncan87]

It’s huestis notice tattoos remember seeing him in okc Jersey

[Duncan87]

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimagesvc.timeincapp.co m%2Fv3%2Ffan%2Fimage%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fthunder ousintentions.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2017%2F07%2F809805776-2017-orlando-summer-league-oklahoma-city-thunder-v-indiana-pacers.jpg.jpg%26&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fthunderousintentions.com%2 F2017%2F07%2F18%2Fjosh-huestis-summer-league-analysis%2F&docid=pLaxluiLiVd1_M&tbnid=CE4HjfF8BDH7jM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwimvaC73JXdAhVn5YMKHZPUDIgQMwhmKAMwAw.. i&w=3480&h=5221&hl=en-us&client=safari&bih=617&biw=414&q=josh%20huestis&ved=0ahUKEwimvaC73JXdAhVn5YMKHZPUDIgQMwhmKAMwAw&iact=mrc&uact=8

[TheGreatYacht]

Josh huestis??? Also maybe camp invites
Great eye

[SpurPadre]

Manu's at the practice too

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Damnit Manu...you can still ball. Come back after the AS break!

[SpurPadre]

nice

LOL @ TD laughing at Forbes bricking per par.

[BillMc]

Manu's at the practice too

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Retired Manu spending more time with the team than "active" franchise player Kawhi did last year.

[BillMc]

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Great pics man, thanks. Wish LMA was there. We need him hungry with something to prove like last year.

[TrainOfThought5]

I still want Tim to come back. Grey hairs and all.

[Nathan89]

Wait did we get a new big man? What's that guy's name? Looks like he already has knee issues though.:(

[SAGirl]

LOL @ TD laughing at Forbes bricking per par.
:lol
had to laugh

[SAGirl]

Retired Manu spending more time with the team than "active" franchise player Kawhi did last year.
Man ... what a dud Kawhi turned out to be. He definitely didn’t care to be a leader or maybe he already had his eye out and wanted to be traded even back then( there were rumors early in the season that I didn’t really give credit to)...

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

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[TimmyBuckets]

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Please!!

[bklynspursfan]

Great pics man, thanks. Wish LMA was there. We need him hungry with something to prove like last year.

:toast

Yea agreed on LMA. I'm shocked Patty wasn't there either, seems like something he'd definitely be a part of.

[gambit1990]

Josh mcroberts left to Tim???
i noticed that too :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

:toast

Yea agreed on LMA. I'm shocked Patty wasn't there either, seems like something he'd definitely be a part of.
Seems like nothing Fatty would be a part of, actually. That aboriginal lard got paid $50M to brick shots and take pictures at the beach.

[KDKSpurs24]

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Hoping to see Jimmy Butler like this post! Or at least see it haha

[Chinook]

I've always liked McRoberts. He seems to be done physically, but his skill-set would be so freaking valuable for the team is he is able to get back to his Charlotte form. I'm not even sure that it's him in the photo, but I'd totally understand if it were.

[KDKSpurs24]

I've always liked McRoberts. He seems to be done physically, but his skill-set would be so freaking valuable for the team is he is able to get back to his Charlotte form. I'm not even sure that it's him in the photo, but I'd totally understand if it were.
My brother is a big Heat fan and he was frustrated at McRoberts often because he never wanted to shoot the ball even when open haha

[bklynspursfan]

Seems like nothing Fatty would be a part of, actually. That aboriginal lard got paid $50M to brick shots and take pictures at the beach.

You couldn't be more wrong.

[TheGreatYacht]

You couldn't be more wrong.
You're the only one still patting PATFO in the back for that disgusting contract (besides dafag), congrats.

[FireMicoHalili]

https://twitter.com/The_6ix_man/status/1035251541320577025

Gerald Henderson trying out for Spurs, Raptors

[bklynspursfan]

You're the only one still patting PATFO in the back for that disgusting contract (besides dafag), congrats.

Cool story bro

[SpursDynasty85]

https://twitter.com/The_6ix_man/status/1035251541320577025

Gerald Henderson trying out for Spurs, Raptors

Between him and Pondexter.

[Duncan87]

August trade Ryan Anderson for Chriss and knight. Houston Phoenix trade don’t really move needle but good for Houston

[phxspurfan]

WTF...u can't even get a DeRozan jersey unless its like 3XL on nba.com

[sasaint]

You couldn't be more wrong.

Yeah, Patty is a real "team" guy. I think he will have a strong season.

[szkorhetz]

August trade Ryan Anderson for Chriss and knight. Houston Phoenix trade don’t really move needle but good for Houston
Interesting.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Mills played like garbage last year with his no assists and no defense games. You can't justify his play last year.
But he has a lot to prove this year- not just solely whether he is worth the money, but also that he's worth the playing time. He might be facing the biggest pressure out of anybody this year because his job is by no means guaranteed going into next year. We have Dejounte, White, Demar, and Lonnie (sprinkle in some Forbes as well) all vying for minutes next year, so he needs to show out in an incredible way this year. In many ways, this is a contract year for Patty (without it literally being a contract year).

[Robz4000]

August trade Ryan Anderson for Chriss and knight. Houston Phoenix trade don’t really move needle but good for Houston

Morey doing work

[J_Paco]

I've always liked McRoberts. He seems to be done physically, but his skill-set would be so freaking valuable for the team is he is able to get back to his Charlotte form. I'm not even sure that it's him in the photo, but I'd totally understand if it were.

That is McRoberts and Huertis on the left beside DeJounte. He is either working out with the team to try and make a comeback or was invited by someone in the organization. He definitely was someone I covered for a while, but that ship has sailed with all his recent knee injuries/issues.

Nice to see the bond is still strong and guys are gearing up for the season. Hopefully they can surprise media pundits and fans (who are down on the team).

I'm excited for all the young talent and the potential they come with...

[J_Paco]

I'm thinking Matt Costello (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a8EBclnw1aA/maxresdefault.jpg), but hard to say for sure.

Incorrect, that is Josh McRoberts. He didn't play last season (I believe) because of on going knee issues and was waived by Dallas.


Looks like Hilliard to me, but I could be wrong.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/2578259.png&w=350&h=254

Wrong again, homie. That is Josh Huestis, Bryn Forbes, DeJounte and DeMar in that photo with Timmy & McBob.

Seems like Huestis, Henderson & McRoberts will be in training camp competing with Pondexter for one of the last roster spots. I'd prefer either Henderson or Huestis, TBH, but neither is ideal for what the team needs.

[Larry O]

It looks like the race for the 15th spot will be an interesting one for sure! Roll the dice on JH and McBob, and see what happens. From what I've read on JH, his defense is pretty good, and has been compared to former teammate, Andre Roberson, but with a slight edge with his offense and better growth potential. According to Gidion Lim from Fansided's Thunderous lntentions, he said that Huestis is bigger than Roberson and has a big wingspan, and is surprisingly quick on his feet for his size, and can possibly guard 1-4 positions, for the 6ft 7in, 230lb'er. And of course, there leaves the 2 2-way spots to be filled as well. But it's good to see these guys working out together to build chemistry before the preseason begins. But it's also funny and good to know that RG22 has played with Beli (Sactown), and DDR10 (Rapts), while Cunningham and QP played together when they were with NOP. Hmmm... PATFO's mastermind plan? Hmmm..
GSG!!!

[FireMicoHalili]

that twitter Spurs homer Eric Salinas really posted a photo of Henderson without attribution lol I know you’re reading this hermano

[MaNu4Tres]

I've always liked McRoberts. He seems to be done physically, but his skill-set would be so freaking valuable for the team is he is able to get back to his Charlotte form. I'm not even sure that it's him in the photo, but I'd totally understand if it were.

It is.

Josh Huestis and Gerald Henderson have also been working out with the Spurs. All three are long shots.

[BackHome]

Spurs will probably have 25 guys in camp and have till end of September to go down to 15

[Degoat]

I personally like the spurs looking at pondexter, Henderson, and Huestis. It’s gonna be hard to find a guy to come here on the cheap that can fill that 3 and D spot. Maybe they have some other guy up their sleeve that hasn’t been talked about but its going to be an important spot to fill on the roster even if it is the 15th roster spot on the team.

[BatManu20]

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Det photoshop. Jimmy’s giant head on somebody else’s body :lol

[BatManu20]

McRoberts and Huestis I’m interested in. Should be a good battle for the 15th spot.

[r0drig0lac]

McRoberts and Huestis I’m interested in. Should be a good battle for the 15th spot.
I really hope they get Huestis.

[Dverde]

McRoberts and Huestis I’m interested in. Should be a good battle for the 15th spot.

Is there any confirmation they are coming to training camp?

[Dverde]

I really hope they get Huestis.

He has a whiny online blog, he should fit in with the other emo players

https://jhuestis.wordpress.com

[r0drig0lac]

He has a whiny online blog, he should fit in with the other emo players

https://jhuestis.wordpress.com

haha do it

[gambit1990]

an offseason like no other...

[dbestpro]

So what happens if say 2 of Pondexter, Henderson, Huestis, and McRoberts out play some guys with full contracts?

[Chinook]

So what happens if say 2 of Pondexter, Henderson, Huestis, and McRoberts out play some guys with full contracts?

Nothing.

[Cardinal]

Ayyyyy Huestis! I'll be rooting for him to get that last spot. Very solid defender and a good rebounder for his size, but quite limited offensively.

[Seventyniner]

So what happens if say 2 of Pondexter, Henderson, Huestis, and McRoberts out play some guys with full contracts?

They would have to set the world on fire to get the Spurs to reconsider the 15 they have.

It would also mean that the bottom of the Spurs' current depth chart really sucks.

[Fusternino]

What's the plan for next offseason then? Don't re-sign either of Cunningham/Pondexter to make room for both first round picks? Move Forbes so that we can bring in Blossomgame if he develops a 3?

[BackHome]

Probably trade or let go Forbes and Gasol go and will bring in Nikola as far as two draft picks they might combine and move up. If they keep both I see them drafting one foreign player "draft and stash" and keeping the other one but will see.

A lot will depend on how Bertans and Forbes play as both are on cheap contracts and could be moved or let go.

[venitian navigator]

I also like the fact we are connecting with these "name" guys...Henderson (athletic back court defense and scoring), Huestis (perimeter defense and rebounding), Mc Roberts (scoring and rebounding) and Pondexter (perimeter defense and scoring) are all skilled...possible for all three a training camp invite.
One month has still to pass before the first rs game, and they are already playing with the team for some time... still possible to evaluate definitely if they can fit and what they have in the tank (for the old ones or the ones coming from injuries). The healtier and younger of the four is Huestis, no doubts about it, and he also fills a role we need really...that's why he was my favourite sf signing...

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs next big move should moving pau and pattys contract the following year...

fck culture...

[dbestpro]

I personally like the spurs looking at pondexter, Henderson, and Huestis. It’s gonna be hard to find a guy to come here on the cheap that can fill that 3 and D spot. Maybe they have some other guy up their sleeve that hasn’t been talked about but its going to be an important spot to fill on the roster even if it is the 15th roster spot on the team.

Henderson is the best player, overall. Huestis fits a lot of the need, but in truth may not see anymore time than he did in OKC. Pop just does not have the patience for this kid to develop a shot even if he is primarily playing for defense. McRoberts makes sense if you want to give some minutes to Bertans at SF. Pondexter? Don't see a good fit.

Of note on Huestis defense over a series of games that he started. The 11 players he was most matched up with were Klay Thompson, Harrison Barnes, C.J. McCollum, T.J. Warren, Devin Booker, Trevor Ariza, Buddy Hield, Kevin Durant, Andrew Wiggins, Jimmy Butler and Lou Williams. Huestis guarded those 11 players on a combined 440 possessions, during which they made 50 of 113 shots (44.2 percent). He is a great shot blocker and Thunder outscored foes by 10.7 points per 48 minutes when he played along side their starters, when he was on the floor. His shooting including foul shooting is abysmal. He could only play with shooters on the floor as offensively it would be 4 on 5.

[NASpurs]

Deng is going to be at our training camp, isn't he? :lol His body has been well preserved the past few years so he should be good to go.

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https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1035910810080632832?s=21

[Leetonidas]

Wouldn't mind spurs looking at Deng for the minimum as a bench PF. He's still ok, really don't know why LA basically refused to play him after paying him so much

[szkorhetz]

Wouldn't mind spurs looking at Deng for the minimum as a bench PF. He's still ok, really don't know why LA basically refused to play him after paying him so much
+1

[sasaint]

Wouldn't mind spurs looking at Deng for the minimum as a bench PF. He's still ok, really don't know why LA basically refused to play him after paying him so much

I think Deng was caught up in the regime change. Mitch signed him to the big contract and then got fired, himself. The New regime wanted to rebuild. IIRC.

Still don't want Deng. We need a mobile SF.

[r0drig0lac]

We need a mobile SF.

[BackHome]

Lakers were doing the tanking thing.....Again. Lol

[Chillen]

Lakers only played Deng 1 game last season and he sucked previous season. Spurs should definitely show interest but it seems he may be washed up. Anyway buying out Deng means Lakers know they have 1 of Kawhi or Butler in the bag for next season.

[rastaspur]

Deng sucks. He wasnt that good in miami his last year. Lakers threw big money at a trash player.

What ferry said about deng was right. Hindsight confirms feery's controversial statement.

[cd98]

Spurs should ask Danny Ferry what he thinks about Deng.

[YGWHI]

Is Lillard quietly being shopped? We already know about Kemba but Lillard, too? This shows how many expectations have PATFO on DJ...Otherwise, they could trade Kawhi for one of these guys over DeRozan.

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Phoenix... :lol

[YGWHI]

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Nah

[Coach X]

Rumors around Heat moving on Goran Dragic. Phoenix and Kokoskov want a PG, I bet they are interested. Kokoskov and Dragic won European Championship last summer.

The Suns have been a joke lately but they have Booker, Ayton and are investing some money in short veteran contracts. Now looking for a decent PG. Igor Kokoskov is a good coach. Looks like finally, they're doing the correct things. The first step is to reestablish a professional work atmosphere: Design a consistent plan (GM-Coaching-Roster), order the locker room mixing youth-experience-leadership, empower your coaches and build up from there. They will be better this season.

[cd021]

Rumors around Heat moving on Goran Dragic. Phoenix and Kokoskov want a PG, I bet they are interested. Kokoskov and Dragic won European Championship last summer.

The Suns have been a joke lately but they have Booker, Ayton and are investing some money in short veteran contracts. Now looking for a decent PG. Igor Kokoskov is a good coach. Looks like finally, they're doing the correct things. The first step is to reestablish a professional work atmosphere: Design a consistent plan (GM-Coaching-Roster), order the locker room mixing youth-experience-leadership, empower your coaches and build up from there. They will be better this season.

Dragic demanded a trade from Phoenix and the same ownership and front office is still in place that caused him to want to leave. I doubt Phoenix wants to bring a player back that was so unhappy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

would lol if deng signs with gsw to chase a cockring

or sign with the wolves

[cd021]

Deng is going to be at our training camp, isn't he? :lol His body has been well preserved the past few years so he should be good to go.

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https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1035910810080632832?s=21

Pop would probably still sit him on b2b's :lol

[cd021]

What's the plan for next offseason then? Don't re-sign either of Cunningham/Pondexter to make room for both first round picks? Move Forbes so that we can bring in Blossomgame if he develops a 3?

-Waive Gasol (or stretch and waive him- the difference being a one time $6.7 million dollar hit or $2.3 million over the next three seasons)

-Don't re-sign Cunningham and whomever the 15th man ends up being- unless it's Carrol.

-Bring over Milutinov.

-Draft and sign one of our first rounders and stash the other. A SF is an obvious priority unless there but I'm not sure what possibly two picks in the 21-26 range gets them.

-I still don't know what Blossomgame is; his game seems to be much closer to an NBA 4 but is only 6'7 with a 6'10 wingspan. He doesn't really shoot 3's either, it's a weird roster fit but he still may be on next years team as a cheap prospect.

G-F-Murray, Mills, White, Forbes, DDR, Gay, Walker, 1st rounder, Blossomgame, Belinelli

PF-C-LMA, Milutinov, Metu, Bertans, Poeltl

There would be no open roster spots open in that scenario.

I don't much roster change other than essentially swapping Gasol out for Milutinov, adding a 1st rounder, etc.

[SpursDynasty85]

-Waive Gasol (or stretch and waive him- the difference being a one time $6.7 million dollar hit or $2.3 million over the next three seasons)

-Don't re-sign Cunningham and whomever the 15th man ends up being- unless it's Carrol.

-Bring over Milutinov.

-Draft and sign one of our first rounders and stash the other. A SF is an obvious priority unless there but I'm not sure what possibly two picks in the 21-26 range gets them.

-I still don't know what Blossomgame is; his game seems to be much closer to an NBA 4 but is only 6'7 with a 6'10 wingspan. He doesn't really shoot 3's either, it's a weird roster fit but he still may be on next years team as a cheap prospect.

G-F-Murray, Mills, White, Forbes, DDR, Gay, Walker, 1st rounder, Blossomgame

PF-C-LMA, Milutinov, Metu, Bertans, Poeltl

There would be 1 roster spot open in that scenario.

I don't much roster change other than essentially swapping Gasol out for Milutinov, adding a 1st rounder, etc.

Didn't Belli sign a 2 year deal too?

[cd021]

Didn't Belli sign a 2 year deal too?

:lol I knew I was forgetting someone.

[BackHome]

Bertans and Forbes are on cheap contracts and Gasol has to be traded after this season to bring Nikola over.

[J_Paco]

With Poetl in the mix the Spurs could package Nikola's rights with either or both draft picks. Which could net them a 8 - 14 lottery pick + a young prospect. Or they could use either or both picks, Nikola's rights to salary dump Pau's remaining contract.

As long as the front office continues to bring in quality, young prospects (I don't care as much about the back of the bench), find a quality SF (in the draft or FA) and loses either Pau or Patty, then I'm more than happy.

[TD 21]

What's the plan for next offseason then? Don't re-sign either of Cunningham/Pondexter to make room for both first round picks? Move Forbes so that we can bring in Blossomgame if he develops a 3?

They're probably only going to free up one rotation spot, Gasol's. That should go to Walker (Aldridge would play more C and Gay or if he's replaced with someone like Aminu, PF).

Walker's too good a prospect and they're too limited ceiling of a team to block him with a middling, aging type, like Ariza or Carroll, who won't move the needle.

Hopefully they can package their picks, move up and find a possible long term answer at SF in the draft. That player could spend '19-'20 apprenticing mostly in the G-League before hopefully claiming Belinelli's rotation spot by '20-'21.

Other than that, probably sign Milutinov and Blossomgame and not re-sign Cunningham and whoever the 15th man ends up being (for now, Pondexter).



With Poetl in the mix the Spurs could package Nikola's rights with either or both draft picks. Which could net them a 8 - 14 lottery pick + a young prospect. Or they could use either or both picks, Nikola's rights to salary dump Pau's remaining contract.

As long as the front office continues to bring in quality, young prospects (I don't care as much about the back of the bench), find a quality SF (in the draft or FA) and loses either Pau or Patty, then I'm more than happy.

Depending on where the Spurs pick falls, they might be able to package both to move into the late lottery. Mid lottery + a young prospect is out of the question though. Milutinov is probably an NBA caliber player, but is value is likely next to nothing.

Nogueria, a more athletic, proven version, remains unsigned because the league is overloaded at C. Some of that is due to fringe players eating up roster spots with dead money (Plumlee, Asik, Felicio, Noah, Mozgov, Leonard, Koufos, Mahinmi). Still, even as those contracts start to come off the books, it's more likely those spots go to wings, with hybrid bigs being converted into full time C's.

[dbestpro]

Depending on where the Spurs pick falls, they might be able to package both to move into the late lottery. Mid lottery + a young prospect is out of the question though. Milutinov is probably an NBA caliber player, but is value is likely next to nothing.

Nogueria, a more athletic, proven version, remains unsigned because the league is overloaded at C. Some of that is due to fringe players eating up roster spots with dead money (Plumlee, Asik, Felicio, Noah, Mozgov, Leonard, Koufos, Mahinmi). Still, even as those contracts start to come off the books, it's more likely those spots go to wings, with hybrid bigs being converted into full time C's.

The NBA is just not as much fun without the center position being what it was.

[Daddy Long Dik]

The NBA is just not as much fun without the center position being what it was.
You don’t know what you are talking about son.

[Fusternino]

So what's the long-term plan with Gay/Aldridge/DDR? Re-sign them all until they're in their late 30s? We only need to do one more one year contract with Gay after this season and then we have his Bird Rights, right?

Still not convinced at all we'll be moving Gasol. If anything I see him staying around to mentor Poeltl/Metu/Milutinov. I'm still convinced we move Forbes to a team that he'll get minutes on as a good faith gesture. If Forbes/Mills/Marco are all hitting shots I think we move one of them because of redundancy.

[SpursDynasty85]

You don’t know what you are talking about son.

Pretty ignorant to shoot down one man's opinion. If you were a fam of Duncan, Shaq, or Hakeem and like post moves then it is fair to say this today's NBA is less entertaining.

[BackHome]

Why do some posters have so many shitty alts?

[SpursDynasty85]

So what's the long-term plan with Gay/Aldridge/DDR? Re-sign them all until they're in their late 30s? We only need to do one more one year contract with Gay after this season and then we have his Bird Rights, right?

Still not convinced at all we'll be moving Gasol. If anything I see him staying around to mentor Poeltl/Metu/Milutinov. I'm still convinced we move Forbes to a team that he'll get minutes on as a good faith gesture. If Forbes/Mills/Marco are all hitting shots I think we move one of them because of redundancy.

I think if a team really wants to tank and give a good missing piece Spurs will have no issue trading him. As for Mills, I hope so too but Mills is our locker guy as well as our crunchtime fut sp far. Gasol is even more expendable because TD can mentor those guys too.

[Fusternino]

I think if a team really wants to tank and give a good missing piece Spurs will have no issue trading him. As for Mills, I hope so too but Mills is our locker guy as well as our crunchtime fut sp far. Gasol is even more expendable because TD can mentor those guys too.

Maybe there's a way we can swindle the Wiz out of Otto Porter Jr. or Oubre if they are just awful by the trade deadline.

[SpursDynasty85]

Maybe there's a way we can swindle the Wiz out of Otto Porter Jr. or Oubre if they are just awful by the trade deadline.

You must see a lot of skill and potential in them they look like slightly above average 3 and d guys that make way too much money. Would take a Marcus Morris over them though.

[Fusternino]

You must see a lot of skill and potential in them they look like slightly above average 3 and d guys that make way too much money. Would take a Marcus Morris over them though.

Playing with Wall and Beal will do that to players.

[Dex]

REPORT: Spurs foreign prospect Dangubic near deal with German team (https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/report-spurs-foreign-prospect-dangubic-near-deal-with-german-team)

[jyra]

REPORT: Spurs foreign prospect Dangubic near deal with German team (https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/report-spurs-foreign-prospect-dangubic-near-deal-with-german-team)

Funny that this article makes the same extact mistake as the Eurohoops post from a couple of days ago. Dangubic is 25 years old not 27.

[Duncan87]

Afflalo brewer and Nick young working out for Twolves

[Duncan87]

Per hoopshype

[sasaint]

Afflalo brewer and Nick young working out for Twolves

I didn't realize Afflalo was available. Wish he was working out with the Spurs.

[YGWHI]

So what's the long-term plan with Gay/Aldridge/DDR? Re-sign them all until they're in their late 30s?
LMA's extension begins this season and ends in 2021 (35 years old) We have to see if he ages "gracefully" in these next three seasons. But if Gasol got a 48M contract at his 38 years old from the Spurs, LMA too.

DeMar is a different story. he will still be in his prime in two years. His last year is about $28M. If the Spurs are willing to pay something like 140M/ 4 years for DD, there is a big chance he remains a Spur.

[SpursDynasty85]

LMA's extension begins this season and ends in 2021 (35 years old) We have to see if he ages "gracefully" in these next three seasons. But if Gasol got a 48M contract at his 38 years old from the Spurs, LMA too.

DeMar is a different story. he will still be in his prime in two years. His last year is about $28M. If the Spurs are willing to pay something like 140M/ 4 years for DD, there is a big chance he remains a Spur.

After last year's performance by Aldridge, no doubt his contract turns into a good deal.

Big question mark is whether DeRozan can fit in and play around Aldridge and make his teammates better. Most importantly they have to contend in the stacked Western conference at the same time. I think if DeRozan takes a team first approach we will compete but if he tries to be ball dominant without adding more playmaking (assists) then we will fight for lower half seeding in the playoffs.

I'm not sure DeRozan has a big market for anything over $30 MM anyways, but who knows for sure. I definitely don't think he gets it from a contender.

I would think around $20-$25MM is Derozan's and Spurs' sweet spot for his next contract. He will probably take his 3rd year player option at $27.5MM. After the 3rd year he isn't really in his prime unless you consider 32-35 his prime years.

[YGWHI]

After last year's performance by Aldridge, no doubt his contract turns into a good deal.

Big question mark is whether DeRozan can fit in and play around Aldridge and make his teammates better. Most importantly they have to contend in the stacked Western conference at the same time. I think if DeRozan takes a team first approach we will compete but if he tries to be ball dominant without adding more playmaking (assists) then we will fight for lower half seeding in the playoffs.

I'm not sure DeRozan has a big market for anything over $30 MM anyways, but who knows for sure. I definitely don't think he gets it from a contender.

I would think around $20-$25MM is Derozan's and Spurs' sweet spot for his next contract. He will probably take his 3rd year player option at $27.5MM. After the 3rd year he isn't really in his prime unless you consider 32-35 his prime years.

I strongly believe that DeMar will have the best seasons of his career as Spur, I find his game very compatible with LMA and Spurs offensive scheme. At the same time, I doubt he would accept a smaller salay than his current contract... We'll see.

[ceperez]

I didn't realize Afflalo was available. Wish he was working out with the Spurs.

He's a pretty decent player. Perhaps at 32 he's run out of gas.

Josh Huestis might be a good guy to pick up. High IQ player with decent length and still only 26.

[sasaint]

He's a pretty decent player. Perhaps at 32 he's run out of gas.

Josh Huestis might be a good guy to pick up. High IQ player with decent length and still only 26.

I haven't paid any attention to Huestis. Just followed some of the discussion in this forum. Seems the big knock on him is lack of offense. I suspect that we have signed the guys that we will start the season with - except two-way guys. I don't expect any movement (if at all) until the cut deadline. With the unprecedented turnover, Pop will be even more patient than normal with the guys on the roster, trying to meld them into a team.

[phxspurfan]

I didn't realize Afflalo was available. Wish he was working out with the Spurs.

He has a well known reputation as a locker room cancer

[Larry O]

I think if the Spurs want to go in the direction of the "youth movement," then Huestis may be the way to go at the 3. Blossomgame is another option, too, but he may require more development time. But with Huestis, you have a NBA experienced player, & his defense is compared to his former teamate, Andre Roberson, a very good defender in his own right, except Huestis has offensive upside and potential, which is something he would have to work on (with Chip), & Pop to be patient with, but when the preseason smoke clears, we shall see what the outcome will be. GSG!!!