Spurs 2018 offseason thread

[YGWHI]

I wonder how tight Thibbs and Butler are? I see Jimmy is saying he won't resign because he doesn't like the young guys (Wiggins and Kat I assume). One school of thought is to trade Jimmy now but, I wonder if Thibbs might go the other way and move Wiggins and Kat? Would they gamble on resigning kawhi and go all in on this season? Would Kawhi + Pau + a couple 1st's to mitigate the risk work?

Thibs should move Wiggins but no one team wants him...I also doubt Wolves GM/owners would let him to move Kat.

Wolves wouldn't gamble on keeping Kawhi. It's pretty obvious that Kawhi would leave Minnesota in next offseason while Butler would stay in SA.

[ace3g]

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Clippers coach Doc Rivers and president Lawrence Frank had dinner Tuesday night in LA with Knicks free agent center Kyle O’Quinn, per source. The two sides will continue to talk.

8:57 AM - Jul 4, 2018 (https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/1014508382118555648)

[mo7888]

Thibs should move Wiggins but no one team wants him...I also doubt Wolves GM/owners would let him to move Kat.

Wolves wouldn't gamble on keeping Kawhi. It's pretty obvious that Kawhi would leave Minnesota in next offseason while Butler would stay in SA.

I agree with part of that, especially the part about people not wanting Wiggins (because of his salary) but, I disagree about Kawhi leaving. At the end of the day I don't think he walks away from a $185M contract to go take something $40M less from another team. I know his team says he would but I don't believe it with his injury history. Is gamble on that and I think that's part of the reason we haven't made a deal because I think he resigns here if push comes to shove.

On Wiggins though, I think we could do well with him and get more out of him than Thibbs can. DJ, Wiggins, and Kat is a pretty strong nucleus going forward and still having L MA for a couple years make us competitive.

[dbestpro]

Thibs should move Wiggins but no one team wants him...I also doubt Wolves GM/owners would let him to move Kat.

Wolves wouldn't gamble on keeping Kawhi. It's pretty obvious that Kawhi would leave Minnesota in next offseason while Butler would stay in SA.

More the like would be a three way trade between Clippers, Wolves and Spurs with KL landing in LA, and maybe Aldridge and Tobias Harris landing in Minnesota, with Wiggins and Towns in SA with others going out to balance salaries.

[szkorhetz]

More the like would be a three way trade between Clippers, Wolves and Spurs with KL landing in LA, and maybe Aldridge and Tobias Harris landing in Minnesota, with Wiggins and Towns in SA with others going out to balance salaries.
Minnessota will never give up Towns. Never.

[ace3g]

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Free agent Amir Johnson is finalizing a one-year deal to return to the 76ers, league source tells ESPN.

[mo7888]

Minnessota will never give up Towns. Never.

I think there's smoke there. I've seen alot of people in the press saying they don't think he's on that team within 2 years. He probably won't end up here but they will move him.

[Mr. Body]

Towns is looking a lot like Cousins, maybe more like AD. A Kentucky center who isn't a leader, churns out stats, can't being a team into the playoffs.

[Spurs da champs]

Towns is looking a lot like Cousins, maybe more like AD. A Kentucky center who isn't a leader, churns out stats, can't being a team into the playoffs.
Well in his defense, Butler is a cancer & it was his 1st playoffs, also I think Thibbs is a horrible coach.

Edit: can't lie tho, he's an idiot.:lol

[YGWHI]

I agree with part of that, especially the part about people not wanting Wiggins (because of his salary) but, I disagree about Kawhi leaving. At the end of the day I don't think he walks away from a $185M contract to go take something $40M less from another team. I know his team says he would but I don't believe it with his injury history. Is gamble on that and I think that's part of the reason we haven't made a deal because I think he resigns here if push comes to shove.
I doubt he likes Minnesota but who knows.


On Wiggins though, I think we could do well with him and get more out of him than Thibbs can. DJ, Wiggins, and Kat is a pretty strong nucleus going forward and still having L MA for a couple years make us competitive.
I'd love to have Kat on the Spurs, I really think Pop can fix his defense and develop him into a true superstar but Wolves wouldn't include him in a trade.

[YGWHI]

More the like would be a three way trade between Clippers, Wolves and Spurs with KL landing in LA, and maybe Aldridge and Tobias Harris landing in Minnesota, with Wiggins and Towns in SA with others going out to balance salaries.
A tree way trade is a great idea. I'd say Butler and Wiggins since Wolves wouldn't move Kat. Butler is likely he would love to be Spurs' next franchise player and stay in SA long term.

[Chomag]

I'm curious as to why nobody is mentioning Isaiah Thomas, do you think the Spurs FO are have even tried to contact him?

[lmbebo]

I'm curious as to why nobody is mentioning Isaiah Thomas, do you think the Spurs FO are have even tried to contact him?

Kinda see him as a locker room cancer and diva. Guy can score, etc. Very ball dominant, doesn't defend (or try?) But I'd want him as a scoring punch off of the bench personally. He wants to be the #1 guy, wants his big pay day (none out there to be had unless he goes to a team with cap space for 1 year...). Thought I read somewhere that Orlando may be interested in him.

[FireMicoHalili]

Emiliano Carchia (https://twitter.com/Sportando) @Sportando (https://twitter.com/Sportando)
about 36 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Sportando/status/1014619720333561857)
Hornets and Nuggets interested in Tony Parker

[ducks]

Marc Stein
Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
Minutiae to wow your friends at your July Fourth festivities: 52 agreements so far in N.B.A. free agency ... 29 of them outright one-year deals

[ace3g]

Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA

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So far three teams have sat out free agency, meaning they haven't signed any FAs or lost any FAs:
Atlanta
Chicago
Sacramento

Related: All three teams have the most cap space left in the league.

[Mr. Body]

I'm curious as to why nobody is mentioning Isaiah Thomas, do you think the Spurs FO are have even tried to contact him?

Fuck no

[SAGirl]

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Cap-space breakdown


By virtue of the Marco Belinelli signing, San Antonio is now hard-capped. The Spurs have $105 million in salary and are $24 million below the hard-cap threshold.
To avoid the luxury tax ($123.7 million) and hard cap, San Antonio could possibly lose veteran Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker) and have to make a choice among restricted free agents Davis Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans), Kyle Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson) and Bryn Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes).



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[SAGirl]

Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA

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So far three teams have sat out free agency, meaning they haven't signed any FAs or lost any FAs:
Atlanta
Chicago
Sacramento

Related: All three teams have the most cap space left in the league.
Looking to take on bad contracts but teams are instead being thrifty with FA signings. Very reluctant to give up Picks to move bad contracts

[cutewizard]

No major news yet??

[FireMicoHalili]

I doubt DJ gets a max offer from other team that the Spurs have to match in 2021 offseason...I can't see the Spurs offering him a max deal either.
That's why I posted "we'll see what happen to DJ's max"... I wonder if not getting the max will make Murray happy.

We can think that market, supply and demand determine players' value...I'm pretty sure players think otherwise.
He’s represented by Klutch Sports. Most likely he’ll be teaming up with other clients either with the Spurs or on another team by the time he’s due for a payday. That’s just how the cookie crumbles these days. Won’t be surprised if the Lamers asked for him to be thrown in a deal.

[Chinook]

Ugh, Bjelica went for about half the MLE to Philly. Would have definitely preferred him to Marco.

[Atl Spur]

Nice pickup for Philly

[bklynspursfan]

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[cutewizard]

Uhm sayang.....did the Spurs not make an effort to sign him....?

[BillMc]

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King Joffrey is now Sultan Joffrey.

[tonight...you]

King Joffrey is now Sultan Joffrey.
lol

[DPG21920]

Ugh, Bjelica went for about half the MLE to Philly. Would have definitely preferred him to Marco.

Maybe this helps SA in a phi deal? Easier to trade Saric now

[kobyz]

Spurs trade: gasol, mills, murray, white. Hornets trade: batum, walker.
Spurs next season:
Walker/Parker
Green/Bellinelli/Walker
Kawhi/KA/Manu
Batum/Gay
LMA/Milutinov/Metu

[TD 21]

Maybe this helps SA in a phi deal? Easier to trade Saric now

They're not going to give up all 3 of Fultz, Saric, Covington. Spurs should be trying to get them to budge on and prioritizing Fultz, because he conceivably possesses star potential and Covington, because they'll need a big, 3 and D wing as a replacement.

It's not ideal, but they could get by with a combination of Gay, Anderson, Bertans at PF for the next 2-3 seasons. Other possibilities are acquiring the rights to Bolden in the trade or trading Murray for a young big or combo forward, like one of the Hernangomez brothers.

[DPG21920]

They're not going to give up all 3 of Fultz, Saric, Covington. Spurs should be trying to get them to budge on and prioritizing Fultz, because he conceivably possesses star potential and Covington, because they'll need a big, 3 and D wing as a replacement.

It's not ideal, but they could get by with a combination of Gay, Anderson, Bertans at PF for the next 2-3 seasons. Other possibilities are acquiring the rights to Bolden in the trade or trading Murray for a young big or combo forward, like one of the Hernangomez brothers.

They don’t have to: Give up Fultz + Saric + Wilson Chandler. It allows them to keep another rotation player while also getting Kawhi.

[BackHome]

Fultz is emotionally done in Philly so much trashed talked about him on the year he had. He was pretty much thrown under the bus for being mentally weak that I do not think Philly really wants to handle next year. This was a number one draft pick that Philly screwed up on and GM and coaches loose their jobs when they screw up on a top 5 draft pick. It’s so bad that they are not even letting him play in the summer league. So I think they get lucky this trade comes down because if they keep him and don’t get Kawhi and he sucks again....new coach etc.

[mo7888]

They don’t have to: Give up Fultz + Saric + Wilson Chandler. It allows them to keep another rotation player while also getting Kawhi.

I like Covington and think he makes us better this year but, overall I think we are better off taking Chandler and the cap space he provides for next summer. It's probably a win for both teams if he stays in Philly and we get saric+fulrz+picks.

[DPG21920]

I like Covington and think he makes us better this year but, overall I think we are better off taking Chandler and the cap space he provides for next summer. It's probably a win for both teams if he stays in Philly and we get saric+fulrz+picks.

Exactly. They give up one rotation player (Saric) and replace him with Kawhi. Replace Saric with Kawhi last year and how good is PHI? They beat BOS and CLE IMO. Chandler came into cap space and they got a 2nd pick for him.

[cjw]

At this point, I’ll take whatever Philly offers as anything on their roster outside of Bayless is better than practically anything the Clippers can offer and Lakers will offer.

Time to pull the ripcord OR go the long game and make Kawhi sit out and destroy his career. That’s as good as anything at this point.

[DPG21920]

I really don’t think that SA will trade him before 7/16. They may not offer SM but they can offer some form of contract.

[tonight...you]

I really don’t think that SA will trade him before 7/16. They may not offer SM but they can offer some form of contract.
I think Pop wants to see him, in person, and practicing. 1st opportunity is Team USA coming up.
Let's see if he punks out of that too.

[DPG21920]

The podcast said the right thing: At a minimum Kawhi has to help the Spurs help him. Want out. Be a quitter. But help the Spurs trade you and put pressure on the teams you want to go to.

[jyra]

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Ugh.. would have definitely preferred him to Beli on this kind of deal.

[Joseph Kony]

yeah but who tf is ryan broekhoff?

[ace3g]

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Ugh.. would have definitely preferred him to Beli on this kind of deal.

ugh!!!!!

I wanted the Spurs to sign him, Aussie 3/D player...

[cutewizard]

Hmmmmm

[TD 21]

They don’t have to: Give up Fultz + Saric + Wilson Chandler. It allows them to keep another rotation player while also getting Kawhi.

I don't even think they'd do Fultz and Saric. I think if the Spurs get them to budge on Fultz, he replaces Saric in the package.

Covington makes more sense as a 2nd asset than Saric. Like I said, Spurs would have some relatively long term options at PF. At SF, specifically the type Covington is, even though I think he's overrated, they'd have more difficulty filling that role. Chandler is past his prime.

[K...]

It sucks that Dallas is going to usurp the euro talent crown by virtue of donic. I guess we missed the boat there and have been getting good ncaa talent, but still it's the end of a generation

[FireMicoHalili]

The Sixers have 17 players under contract? Including two-way players?

[TD 21]

The Sixers have 17 players under contract? Including two-way players?

Not including two-way . . .

Starters: Saric, Covington, Embiid, Redick, Simmons

Bench: Fultz, Chandler, Bjelica, Johnson, McConnell

Deep bench: Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, Luwawu-Cabarrot, Korkmaz, Smith, Shamet

Bayless is headed for a buyout and if a Leonard trade doesn't get them down to 15, I'd guess Anderson is salary dumped.

[FireMicoHalili]

Not including two-way . . .

Starters: Saric, Covington, Embiid, Redick, Simmons

Bench: Fultz, Chandler, Bjelica, Johnson, McConnell

Deep bench: Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, Luwawu-Cabarrot, Korkmaz, Smith, Shamet

Bayless is headed for a buyout and if a Leonard trade doesn't get them down to 15, I'd guess Anderson is salary dumped.
Interesting. Thanks man.

[JPB]

Spurs trade: gasol, mills, murray, white. Hornets trade: batum, walker.
Spurs next season:
Walker/Parker
Green/Bellinelli/Walker
Kawhi/KA/Manu
Batum/Gay
LMA/Milutinov/Metu


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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/paxer89/status/1015009189884768257

Orazio Cauchi @paxer89
(https://twitter.com/paxer89) 1h (https://twitter.com/paxer89/status/1015009189884768257) Hearing that the meeting between Clint Capela and the Houston Rockets wasn't very positive. Capela is seriously considering playing on qualifying offer and becoming an unrestricted free agent next summer when he'll have a better market, according to a league source.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto

(https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto) now (https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1015031581172379649)
The Detroit Pistons will waive guard Dwight Buycks, a league source told The Athletic. Buycks averaged 7.4 points and 2.0 assists in 14.7 minutes per game in 29 games for the Pistons last season.

[tbdog]

At this point, I’ll take whatever Philly offers as anything on their roster outside of Bayless is better than practically anything the Clippers can offer and Lakers will offer.

Time to pull the ripcord OR go the long game and make Kawhi sit out and destroy his career. That’s as good as anything at this point.

I disagree. Ingram is by far the best prospect out there that the Spurs can get. That has to be the priority. Convington and Saric are playoff worthy rotational players and Convington is on a great contract. But Ingram can be something special sooner rather than later.

[cjw]

I disagree. Ingram is by far the best prospect out there that the Spurs can get. That has to be the priority. Convington and Saric are playoff worthy rotational players and Convington is on a great contract. But Ingram can be something special sooner rather than later.

If you don’t have to take on Deng, then I can get behind it. But seems like that’s what the Lakers will force. Because other than Deng, they don’t have contracts to trade that don’t amount to most of their other young guys (notably Ball).

[tonight...you]

I disagree. Ingram is by far the best prospect out there that the Spurs can get. That has to be the priority. Convington and Saric are playoff worthy rotational players and Convington is on a great contract. But Ingram can be something special sooner rather than later.
That is the hitch in the giddy-up, yes?
Ingram could truly be a contender. He could have been somebody.

But Ingram is not worth Kawhi with a happy agency.

Kawhi is worth multiple court practices with his coach.
No Uncle Goober.
No incompetent Impact.

Just Kawhi, his "teammates" and his "coach".

He's 100 percent. Right? Who wants to bet a "meniscus tear" happens on the 1st practice?

Bitch-Move Leonard...

[Joseph Kony]

ingram is trash. dude has bust written all over him

[palangi]

ingram is trash. dude has bust written all over him

Your posting is trash

[dbestpro]

Your posting is trash

..but his trash is true young padawan.

[palangi]

..but his trash is true young padawan.

Not quite

[SAGirl]

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[8FOR!3]

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I like Marcus Smart and I think he fits in well with the Boston culture but at the end of the day he's an undersized shooting guard that can't shoot.

[Isitjustme?]

More the like would be a three way trade between Clippers, Wolves and Spurs with KL landing in LA, and maybe Aldridge and Tobias Harris landing in Minnesota, with Wiggins and Towns in SA with others going out to balance salaries.

Lmao minnesota is not doing that trade lolol

[raybies]

I like Marcus Smart and I think he fits in well with the Boston culture but at the end of the day he's an undersized shooting guard that can't shoot.
tbh... announcers always like,,, well the things he does doen't always show up in the stat sheets... that's a problem at the wage I imagine he's expecting. I just see him as a BAE guy...

[ducks]

Would rather have walker

[Kawhitstorm]

He has as many rings as Murray:lmao

Was the general of a team that set the league back into the stone ages during the Finals:lol

[Mr. Body]

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Boston had a lot of great and useful players, but they can easily foul this all up. They have hard decisions to make.

[tholdren]

I like Marcus Smart and I think he fits in well with the Boston culture but at the end of the day he's an undersized shooting guard that can't shoot.

Strange how these guys who cant do anything are in the nba and guys who can are not. Seems racist

[cjw]

Boston had a lot of great and useful players, but they can easily foul this all up. They have hard decisions to make.

They’ve been trying to thread a needle to build the team best equipped to win a title but along the way are going to piss people off - both rival GMs and players. Rival GMs are already hesitant to deal with them. And they don’t necessarily show any loyalty to their players. Ainge basically recycled everyone from the 2016-17 team with a few exceptions despite how well that team played. Soon enough, it’ll only be Brown left from that squad and possibly Horford / Rozier. The door hit everyone else on the way out.

Didn’t think it would happen, but now wouldn’t surprise me if Irving left next offseason which is why they’ll probably keep Rozier around.

[FireMicoHalili]

I don’t know a team which would love to give up equivalent value for a 2x DPOY, a Finals MVP on a one-year rental, a wonky quad, and a batshit crazy posse.

[cutewizard]

I don’t know a team which would love to give up equivalent value for a 2x DPOY, a Finals MVP on a one-year rental, a wonky quad, and a batshit crazy posse.

Mabuhay po.

[FireMicoHalili]

Mabuhay po.
:bobo

[loveforthegame]

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[DPG21920]

:lmao People on SA about Kawhi while ignoring HOU shafting Clint and BOS alienating the hell out of Smart and doing IT wrong.

[Mr. Body]

:lmao People on SA about Kawhi while ignoring HOU shafting Clint and BOS alienating the hell out of Smart and doing IT wrong.

Yeah, it's amazing we're talking about Kawhi Leonard at all...

[Spurs da champs]

:lmao People on SA about Kawhi while ignoring HOU shafting Clint and BOS alienating the hell out of Smart and doing IT wrong.

Could Spurs be in running for Capela next year, assuming he takes 1 year deal? Houston needs him now more than ever with potential threat Cousins is.

[james evans]

OKC will be parting ways with Anthony this summer. I hope Bufford and Pop don't get any bright ideas.

[lmbebo]

Could Spurs be in running for Capela next year, assuming he takes 1 year deal? Houston needs him now more than ever with potential threat Cousins is.

Not sure on Capella. Wanted him when we could draft him. I think he works in a certain situation, just not sure how we will fit with him. Throwing so much money at someone like that.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Could Spurs be in running for Capela next year, assuming he takes 1 year deal? Houston needs him now more than ever with potential threat Cousins is.

Spurs don't have the PnR guard or anyone who could set him up to make use of him, barring Derrick White turning into Harden light. Capela has no offensive game whatsoever.

[LittleCriminal]

Starting PG??
Murray or Mills?? Lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Starting PG??
Murray or Mills?? Lol
White..Mills could be tagged on in the kawhi trade.

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[LittleCriminal]

White..Mills could be tagged on in the kawhi trade.

A Murray/White rotation would be sweet imo..

[BillMc]

:lmao People on SA about Kawhi while ignoring HOU shafting Clint and BOS alienating the hell out of Smart and doing IT wrong.

What is the status with Clint anyway?

[monkeypunk]

White..Mills could be tagged on in the kawhi trade.

No offense to Mills, seems like a nice guy but I sure as hell hope he is. We need that albatross contract off the books...

[gambit1990]

i really want capela, would give him the max too. spurs can't obviously...

[Ron Swanson]

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[Leetonidas]

Bulls should let him walk. Lmao 20 mil for Zach lavine?? Lol kings

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, the Bulls probably have a car waiting to take him to the airport and are asking to waive the 48 hour waiting period.

[gambit1990]

Bulls should let him walk. Lmao 20 mil for Zach lavine?? Lol kings
really :lol

[loveforthegame]

Oh Kings. Why? I root for you year after year and you keep doing things like this. I like Lavine but not at that price. Yikes. No way Bulls match that.

[K...]

What? That's Kyle Anderson level money!

[Mr. Body]

This is why shitty franchises remain shitty.

[NASpurs]

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[marinoman]

Good and good luck to him, if spurs match then suicide watch

[ducks]

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wtf

[NASpurs]

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[Robz4000]

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:wow :lmao

[loveforthegame]

Whoa. I didn't think they'd match that.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 1m (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1015413847866216449)
The Bulls have decided to match Sacramento's $78M offer sheet to Zach LaVine, league sources tell ESPN.

[ace3g]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart
A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart

[Robz4000]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart
A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


:rollin not a chance in hell

[gambit1990]

1015413847866216449
:lol

[NASpurs]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart


A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


16 million a year for Marcus Smart? Fuck that. :lol

[ducks]

walker is better 16 million for smart :bang

[mystargtr34]

$16M a year Jesus.

[tholdren]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart
A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


Anderson is better than smart...

[tholdren]

16 million a year for Marcus Smart? Fuck that. :lol

Lol todays nba for 16 mil... a 20 percent three shooter

[Mr. Body]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart
A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


Shows how much of a bargain Anderson is. Smart got a lot of visibility simply by being in Boston.

[Leetonidas]

Smarts a tough player but we have too many guards

[pad300]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart
A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


His agent is lying to him if he thinks SAS can put $16M annually in front of him. They have the Bi-Annual Exception, the Vet Min, and the remainder of the MLE ($6M went to Belinelli) to sign FA's with - the most we can offer is ~$3.5M per season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

His agent is lying to him if he thinks SAS can put $16M annually in front of him. They have the Bi-Annual Exception, the Vet Min, and the remainder of the MLE ($6M went to Belinelli) to sign FA's with - the most we can offer is ~$3.5M per season.

They must be thinking in terms of sign and trade or just using the Spurs for leverage, more likely.

[sasaint]

:rollin not a chance in hell

We will probably bite. $16MM/year for Smart sounds like a Spurs deal. We gonna end up with a roster of LMA and 14 guards.

[Ron Swanson]

Grain of salt:

What's Next For Marcus Smart


A source close to Smart said that he is turning his focus away from staying in Boston and has been communicating with multiple teams, including the Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Pistons and Bucks. He also stated that Smart is possibly leaning towards San Antonio and Milwaukee as they have the funds to pay the $16 million a year contract that he feels he deserves.

https://www.dezewellmedia.com/new-blog/2018/7/6/whats-next-for-marcus-smart


Hell naw.

[K...]

sign and trade for mills? maybe

[sasaint]

sign and trade for mills? maybe

If Kyle follows Tony out of town, Mills is a lock to stay.

[ceperez]

If Kyle follows Tony out of town, Mills is a lock to stay.

Can't have all the corporate knowledge gone.

[sasaint]

Can't have all the corporate knowledge gone.

I wonder if Manu is now likely to return.

OR, what if these personnel moves are Kawhi-related. What if PATFO is allowing guys to depart that made Kawhi uncomfortable in an effort to make his return easier. Now Pop has plausible deniability about any locker room team meeting/confrontation between Tony/Manu and Kawhi... Plus the way is paved for some young guys to play major minutes...

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 51s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1015432798138662912)
Restricted free agent center Jusuf Nurkic has agreed to a 4-year, $48M deal to stay with Portland, league source tells ESPN.


Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 40s (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1015432982302199808)
Restricted free agent Jusuf Nurkic has agreed to a four-year, $53M deal with Portland, league sources tell Yahoo.

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 34s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1015433009003147264)
Deal includes partial guarantee in 4th year, source says.

[Ron Swanson]

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[ace3g]

crazy news

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[Mugen]

Damn, Honeycutt grew up around me. Even saw him at some local house parties. Pretty crazy that he went out like this.

[BackHome]

I wonder if Manu is now likely to return.

OR, what if these personnel moves are Kawhi-related. What if PATFO is allowing guys to depart that made Kawhi uncomfortable in an effort to make his return easier. Now Pop has plausible deniability about any locker room team meeting/confrontation between Tony/Manu and Kawhi... Plus the way is paved for some young guys to play major minutes...

Dude Kawhi is so fucking done no one on the Spurs wants this fools who quit on his team. NO FUCKING ONE..........Let this piece of shit die a slow death.

[ace3g]

Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA

(https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA) 19m (https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015626736044609536)
The Utah Jazz have waived forward Jonas Jerebko.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn) (https://twitter.com/wojespn) @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)



The Golden State Warriors are among the teams forward Jonas Jerebko will consider upon clearing waivers, league sources tell ESPN. Strong mutual interest.

11:21am · 7 Jul 2018 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1015631865900945409) · Twitter Web Client (http://twitter.com)

[jyra]

Bertans getting an offer sheet from the Jazz seems inevitable now. They still have the entire MLE available.

[DPG21920]

Where are people getting that SA has 16M for Smart?

[ace3g]

Where are people getting that SA has 16M for Smart?

They don't, not sure where that guy who posted the article, got that figure from. Why I said take the article with grain of salt. Plus we need more wing players w/ size.

[DPG21920]

I mean, I am a big smart fan. He’s like a better version of Kyle Anderson but as a guard. If SA didn’t have Mills I would much rather pay Smart 16M than Mills 12M. But I just dont see how outside of a Kawhi trade opening up cap space how that would be an option.

[pad300]

I mean, I am a big smart fan. He’s like a better version of Kyle Anderson but as a guard. If SA didn’t have Mills I would much rather pay Smart 16M than Mills 12M. But I just dont see how outside of a Kawhi trade opening up cap space how that would be an option.

Really, he's one of few players who are MUCH worse than KA offensively (and he's not better defensively)! He posted a TS% of 47.9, compared to Anderson's 58.2...

[phxspurfan]

crazy news

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http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tyler-honeycutt

Comparison: Scarface

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server3100/fmv7lp7t/products/28249/images/108692/al-pacino-signed-scarface-16x20-say-hello-photo-bas__95327.1497900001.500.750.jpg

[phxspurfan]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tyler-honeycutt

Comparison: Scarface

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server3100/fmv7lp7t/products/28249/images/108692/al-pacino-signed-scarface-16x20-say-hello-photo-bas__95327.1497900001.500.750.jpg

Who says Today's NBA players aren't great shooters...

[tholdren]

sign and trade for mills? maybe

Why? Hes worse than mills

[tholdren]

Damn, Honeycutt grew up around me. Even saw him at some local house parties. Pretty crazy that he went out like this.
Glad he didnt shoot you tbh

[gambit1990]

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[Chinook]

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Bringing back the Bismack

[marinoman]

3 shit teams exchanging shit

[ace3g]

OT but didn't realize Doncic was going to wear #77 for the Mavs. Any significance behind that number? I see he wears that # for the Slovenian NT.

[NickiRasgo]

OT but didn't realize Doncic was going to wear #77 for the Mavs. Any significance behind that number? I see he wears that # for the Slovenian NT.

https://bc.marfeel.com/statics/i/p/images.bebasket.fr/actualites/article/2018/lauvergne-brille-enfin--luwawu-cabarrot-enchaine-avec-un-nouveau-bon-match.jpg?mrf-size=l

[Dverde]

Fizdale enjoying the offseason. Take that for data!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhbpgS2V4AElhvZ?format=jpg&name=medium

[FireMicoHalili]

OT but didn't realize Doncic was going to wear #77 for the Mavs. Any significance behind that number? I see he wears that # for the Slovenian NT.
Nod to Spanoulis who wore #7, his favorite player

[gambit1990]

Jabari Parker has unfollowed both Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Bucks on Instagram and blocked the biggest Bucks fanpage. Further details on the story of the linked Instagram account.
would do a S&T for him (+ john henson).

but probably not for the amount he'll wind up getting.

[tholdren]

Fizdale enjoying the offseason. Take that for data!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhbpgS2V4AElhvZ?format=jpg&name=medium

Lol. What a bum

[mo7888]

With the bulls,magic,Charlotte trade completed the bulls are the only team with enough room to absorb carmelo. What assets does okc have that they can attach to move him there?

[Dverde]

With the bulls,magic,Charlotte trade completed the bulls are the only team with enough room to absorb carmelo. What assets does okc have that they can attach to move him there?
I thought he was being bought out of his contract...

[mo7888]

I thought he was being bought out of his contract...

I'm sure the bulls would be buying him out but, if okc can trade him and let someone else buy him out it saves them alot on money in taxes. It also gives them more cap space in the coming years because they won't have the stretch provision on their books.

[ace3g]

Booker signs extension

Shams Charania ShamsCharania

(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 9m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1015796349172740096)
Sources: Devin Booker has signed a 5-year, $158M maximum contract extension with the Phoenix Suns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhjVWCOV4AAJb8i.jpg:large

[phxspurfan]

1015758243950465024

Parker and Kemba throwin' lobs to Biyombo

[NASpurs]

Booker signs extension

Shams Charania (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)Sham (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania

9m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1015796349172740096)
Sources: Devin Booker has signed a 5-year, $158M maximum contract extension with the Phoenix Suns.


When Devin Booker makes more than Kawhi Leonard.

:lol Uncle Dennis

[ace3g]

Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA

(https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA) 1h (https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1015957882041335809)
Asked around about Milwaukee Bucks RFA Jabari Parker too. One team exec that is not in the bidding for Parker said “Maybe Atlanta or Sacramento can get involved, but I don’t think they will. He may be one of the biggest losers of the summer for expected vs actual contract.”

[bdictjames]

Bucks just signed Brook Lopez for $3.4 M. Wasn't this guy compared to Duncan like 5 years ago? We could've picked him up for more than that I believe.

[objective]

Bucks just signed Brook Lopez for $3.4 M. Wasn't this guy compared to Duncan like 5 years ago? We could've picked him up for more than that I believe.

Not for more money. Spurs had the BAE like the bucks, and less than that left from the mle.

Maybe Spurs could offer the second year but Lopez might have turned that down with bucks to get back on the market

[BackHome]

Nikola is better then Lopez at this point more upside and younger.

[bdictjames]

Not for more money. Spurs had the BAE like the bucks, and less than that left from the mle.

Maybe Spurs could offer the second year but Lopez might have turned that down with bucks to get back on the market
We couldn't have signed him for Kyle Anderson money, like $5M?

[bdictjames]

We need a big.

[BatManu20]

We need a big.

Not as badly as we need a Top 3 draft pick, tbh.

[Thomas82]

We need a big.

In the worst way.

[mystargtr34]

Can anyone enlighten me as to what the story is with Milutinov? Is there any chance he comes over for this season? Has he given any indication he wants to come over?

Dude looks like he would be an asset as a pick and roll big with his size, hands and finishing around the rim.. reminds me a bit of Tiago.

[ace3g]

Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA

(https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA) 2h (https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1016100542878306306)
Three names that keep coming up with teams as players to watch in the next wave of free agency:
LAC RFA Montrezl Harrell
DET UFA James Ennis
MIA UFA Wayne Ellington

Multiple teams told me they were stunned Ellington isn't signed yet. One said "I wish we had money left for him!"

[cutewizard]

Hmmm....hmmmm

[cutewizard]

Signed two players, released two players.....

Thats it??

[objective]

We couldn't have signed him for Kyle Anderson money, like $5M?

Nope, not after Marco and Rudy Gay and Green opting in

They had the 8.7 MLE, which could be broken up (and was with Marco), the BAE (that Lopez got in Milwaukee) and ... Minimums

[objective]

Can anyone enlighten me as to what the story is with Milutinov? Is there any chance he comes over for this season? Has he given any indication he wants to come over?

Dude looks like he would be an asset as a pick and roll big with his size, hands and finishing around the rim.. reminds me a bit of Tiago.

Chance yes, but I would think that he would have signed already.

He makes a nice salary, amount unknown, to start for Olympiakos. . He did sign with a new agency in April so a new contract might be desired for them to get their cut

He had a nebulous knee injury near the end of the season but it didn't keep him from appearing with the national team, and apparently surgery isn't necessary.

His buyout situation is easy, iirc it's only 900k and the Spurs can cover 700k of it

After the Marco deal they could only offer him maybe a 3/9 deal. That might not be enough to get him, but we'll find out in less than two weeks because his buyout window closes soon.

[Hoops Czar]

Chance yes, but I would think that he would have signed already.

He makes a nice salary, amount unknown, to start for Olympiakos. . He did sign with a new agency in April so a new contract might be desired for them to get their cut

He had a nebulous knee injury near the end of the season but it didn't keep him from appearing with the national team, and apparently surgery isn't necessary.

His buyout situation is easy, iirc it's only 900k and the Spurs can cover 700k of it

After the Marco deal they could only offer him maybe a 3/9 deal. That might not be enough to get him, but we'll find out in less than two weeks because his buyout window closes soon.

What ever happened to Tony Parker's 23M cap hold? That money just disappeared when he signed with Charlotte?

[Hoops Czar]

.

[objective]

What ever happened to Tony Parker's 23M cap hold? That money just disappeared when he signed with Charlotte?

Basically, yes. They were over the cap last year after signing Mills and Pau, then they used MLE on Gay.

This year, sure, Parker's cap hold is off, but Green opted in and they signed Gay using non-bird rights plus the higher than usual salary for the draft pick because it was so high this year ... And basically everyone else got their typical 8% raises ...

No money left, not cap room anyway.

[objective]

What ever happened to Tony Parker's 23M cap hold? That money just disappeared when he signed with Charlotte?

To illustrate:

The cap is 101.869

LMA, Kawhi, Pau, Mills, Gay and Green are about 91 million total.

After Manu, Murray, White, Walker, and the cap hold for Bertans, cap hold for Forbes and Hilliard, plus the minimum for Brandon Paul, you can see how even dropping Parker didn't create any room.

[lmbebo]

project spurs have a good video they just released on the current cap situation

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs salary situation looks like shit

[DPG21920]

Spurs salary situation looks like shit

It looks amazing what are you talking about

[Mr. Body]

Booker signs extension

Shams Charania ShamsCharania

(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 9m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1015796349172740096)
Sources: Devin Booker has signed a 5-year, $158M maximum contract extension with the Phoenix Suns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhjVWCOV4AAJb8i.jpg:large

Doling out that kind of money for a guy who doesn't win basketball games.

[Chinook]

It looks amazing what are you talking about

Probably speaking from the perspective of someone who thinks the roster is really bad without the team having cap space to sign a "better" player this year.

[Chinook]

Doling out that kind of money for a guy who doesn't win basketball games.

That's the downside to a max deal. Guys who can tie their sneakers feel entitled to get it. It's just like in the NFL how ever FA who's at a Pro Bowl level has to be the new highest-paid at his position, even if he's not better than the other players.

[Mr. Body]

That's the downside to a max deal. Guys who can tie their sneakers feel entitled to get it. It's just like in the NFL how ever FA who's at a Pro Bowl level has to be the new highest-paid at his position, even if he's not better than the other players.

It just kills shitty franchises. Booker is never going to win basketball games for Phoenix. They're not going to be in the playoffs for several years. I guess it sort of doesn't matter, but they're going to be paying this guy even more as the years go on and he's going to do jack shit.

[ace3g]

grain of salt again

Source: Luc Mbah a Moute not a lock to return to Houston, has other offers on the table
According to a person close to the situation and with knowledge of negotiations, Houston isn’t giving Mbah a Moute the money and long-term security he desires, instead offering him near the same amount as the $2.1 million veteran’s minimum deal he signed for with Houston in the 2017-18 season. The person requested anonymity because he was not authorized to comment about Mbah a Moute.

According to the person, the San Antonio Spurs, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers, Washington Wizards and Philadelphia 76ers have expressed interest, and at least two of these teams have presented offers to Mbah a Moute.

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/08/houston-rockets-luc-mbah-a-moute-offers-free-agency/

[ducks]

It just kills shitty franchises. Booker is never going to win basketball games for Phoenix. They're not going to be in the playoffs for several years. I guess it sort of doesn't matter, but they're going to be paying this guy even more as the years go on and he's going to do jack shit.

Their number one pick will help
Their pick last year will be better
They should be close to .500 this year
Azria will help also

[MoSpur02]

Is Jabari Parker a restricted free agent? I like that the Spurs are showing interest in Mbah a Moute. He's a good defender.

[HarlemHeat37]

Would have been a better signing than Belinelli..weakens Houston, gets one of the few defensive players in the league on Kyle's level to replace him..

[mystargtr34]

Chance yes, but I would think that he would have signed already.

He makes a nice salary, amount unknown, to start for Olympiakos. . He did sign with a new agency in April so a new contract might be desired for them to get their cut

He had a nebulous knee injury near the end of the season but it didn't keep him from appearing with the national team, and apparently surgery isn't necessary.

His buyout situation is easy, iirc it's only 900k and the Spurs can cover 700k of it

After the Marco deal they could only offer him maybe a 3/9 deal. That might not be enough to get him, but we'll find out in less than two weeks because his buyout window closes soon.

Roger, thanks!

[TimDunkem]

Would have been a better signing than Belinelli..weakens Houston, gets one of the few defensive players in the league on Kyle's level to replace him..

He's also not a pussy and actually willing to shoot the 3.

[NASpurs]

grain of salt again

Source: Luc Mbah a Moute not a lock to return to Houston, has other offers on the table


According to a person close to the situation and with knowledge of negotiations, Houston isn’t giving Mbah a Moute the money and long-term security he desires, instead offering him near the same amount as the $2.1 million veteran’s minimum deal he signed for with Houston in the 2017-18 season. The person requested anonymity because he was not authorized to comment about Mbah a Moute.

According to the person, the San Antonio Spurs, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers, Washington Wizards and Philadelphia 76ers have expressed interest, and at least two of these teams have presented offers to Mbah a Moute.

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/08/houston-rockets-luc-mbah-a-moute-offers-free-agency/

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[gambit1990]

had liked the idea of mbah a moute on the spurs but man, he was awful against the warriors in the POs.

spurs should offer jabari parker the BAE but he probably doesn't go for it and the bucks would probably match.

[TimDunkem]

He injured his shoulder multiple times during the season so of course he was ass. I'd be willing to take a flyer on him though if he's back to full health.

[Chinook]

Would have been a better signing than Belinelli..weakens Houston, gets one of the few defensive players in the league on Kyle's level to replace him..

I like his fit with Bertans too. It's like his old pairing with Ilyasova back in the day. He doesn't have much of place unless Leonard stays and Bertans walks or unless he beats Davis out for a rotation spot.

Murray/Mills
Green/White/Walker
Leonard/Belinelli
Gay/Mbah a Moute/Bertans
Aldridge/Gasol

Or perhaps (but not really)

White/Mills
Green/Murray/Walker
Leonard/Belinelli
Mbah a Moute/Gay/Bertans
Aldridge/Gasol

That first-unit D should be really good, and White would work great getting both Leonard and Aldridge their touches. Second unit is pace-and-space with a lot of shooting around Gay and Murray there to keep the D from going to complete shit.

[NASpurs]

Which player(s) that aren't total shit and would honestly take the BAE or the remaining MLE if offered?

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https://analyzingtheleague.com/2018/06/2018-free-agents/ (https://analyzingtheleague.com/2018/06/2018-free-agents/)

Points

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Points-07-06-18.png

Combos

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Combos-07-06-18.png

Wings

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Wings-07-06-18.png

Forwards

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Forwards-07-06-18.png

Bigs

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Bigs-07-08-18.png

[Chinook]

had liked the idea of mbah a moute on the spurs but man, he was awful against the warriors in the POs.

spurs should offer jabari parker the BAE but he probably doesn't go for it and the bucks would probably match.

May as well just sign Beasley. Dude was great for my fantasy team last year. Especially if Gay starts at PF, the team will still need scoring.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Probably speaking from the perspective of someone who thinks the roster is really bad without the team having cap space to sign a "better" player this year.

EXACTLY

Cheers Chinook, I may be wrong but you've nailed it

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I like his fit with Bertans too. It's like his old pairing with Ilyasova back in the day. He doesn't have much of place unless Leonard stays and Bertans walks or unless he beats Davis out for a rotation spot.

Murray/Mills
Green/White/Walker
Leonard/Belinelli
Gay/Mbah a Moute/Bertans
Aldridge/Gasol

Or perhaps (but not really)

White/Mills
Green/Murray/Walker
Leonard/Belinelli
Mbah a Moute/Gay/Bertans
Aldridge/Gasol

That first-unit D should be really good, and White would work great getting both Leonard and Aldridge their touches. Second unit is pace-and-space with a lot of shooting around Gay and Murray there to keep the D from going to complete shit.

You're talking like Leonard is going to finish out the season as a Spur :depressed

[Chinook]

Which player(s) that aren't total shit and would honestly take the BAE or the remaining MLE if offered?

1016190524766736384

https://analyzingtheleague.com/2018/06/2018-free-agents/ (https://analyzingtheleague.com/2018/06/2018-free-agents/)

Points

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Points-07-06-18.png

Combos

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Combos-07-06-18.png

Wings

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Wings-07-06-18.png

Forwards

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Forwards-07-06-18.png

Bigs

https://analyzingtheleague.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/Bigs-07-08-18.png

If SA stays big for some reason or otherwise trades Gasol, then Len makes sense for the BAE, especially for two years. He's not a bad player, but he got Phoenix'd really badly. Booker is a guy who can get rotation minutes on a playoff team and has a bit of versatility to his game. Noquiera probably shouldn't get the BAE, but if Milutinov stays over, he's a good guy to have. Even if Nikola does come over, if Pau is traded, I'd want a vet to compete with him for minutes. I'd still take a flier on Oak for the min.

[Chinook]

You're talking like Leonard is going to finish out the season as a Spur :depressed

I still think SA is the most likely place Kawhi will be in October, 2019. If they do trade him, though, I hope the package is heavy on forwards. Getting even two guys for the rotation eliminates the need to compete over MaM. He'd just be depth, and that can be had for the min.

[ElNono]

Would definitely take a flyer on Tony Allen for ~$5m per on a 2 year deal... or Afflalo, since he should be a bargain these days.

If we wanna go younger, Napier for the right price is also somebody to look at.

[outmap]

I'd take a flyer in Jahlil Okafor and Greg Monroe.

[szkorhetz]

Would definitely take a flyer on Tony Allen for ~$5m per on a 2 year deal... or Afflalo, since he should be a bargain these days.

If we wanna go younger, Napier for the right price is also somebody to look at.
I don't get Napier, but Allen or Affalo could be nice, although I would still prefer Shabazz.

[raybies]

I'm leaning towards Blossomgame actually. I'm assuming the play is getting a wing in any trade so a safe bet with Jaron would be good. He ain't gonna complain about playing time or numbers, and he'll just be happy to be there. I think he's ready... He'd be solid 3rd string wing that can spell relief in spurts. He has and ideal role players game and can do a lil of everything. I like that he's hella active with cuts and in transition. Should be an ez guy to blend in with a lot of lineups. Doesn't need the ball to be effective. Also I've like what I've seen from Metu. Definitely one of the best 2nd rounders we've had in a long time. Would like to see him have a shot at making the roster. I think we could use his skill set and it'd be nice to have Bertans have some comp for his stretch four role.

Guards:
Murray, Mills, White, Walker, Paul

Wings:
Ginobili, Green, Marco, Blossomgame, (Trade)

Bigs:
LMA, Gay, Gasol, Bertans, Metu

[objective]

Noah Vonleh could be interesting as well.

[raybies]

Noah Vonleh could be interesting as well.
i seen his name there and wondered why he was still on the board.... I haven't been overtly high on him but everytime I've seen him play he's done well... what's his story??

[objective]

i seen his name there and wondered why he was still on the board.... I haven't been overtly high on him but everytime I've seen him play he's done well... what's his story??

eh, he's just a guy now. No more potential really, just someone who other people talk up as a decent switching big.

I don't know much more, haven't spent too much time watching him. But any big who is allegedly switchable is interesting to me, because Pau and LMA aren't really excelling at it.

[raybies]

eh, he's just a guy now. No more potential really, just someone who other people talk up as a decent switching big.

I don't know much more, haven't spent too much time watching him. But any big who is allegedly switchable is interesting to me, because Pau and LMA aren't really excelling at it.
i really have no idea what his skill set is lol

[-21-]

Would definitely take a flyer on Tony Allen for ~$5m per on a 2 year deal... or Afflalo, since he should be a bargain these days.

If we wanna go younger, Napier for the right price is also somebody to look at.

We don't need anymore guards tbh.

[szkorhetz]

Just get Melo to lead the second unit, TBH.

[Chinook]

Just get Melo to lead second unit, TBH.

I'd much rather him lead the first unit. I'd like my pick of the best players in this upcoming draft.

[duncan2150]

If SA stays big for some reason or otherwise trades Gasol, then Len makes sense for the BAE, especially for two years. He's not a bad player, but he got Phoenix'd really badly. Booker is a guy who can get rotation minutes on a playoff team and has a bit of versatility to his game. Noquiera probably shouldn't get the BAE, but if Milutinov stays over, he's a good guy to have. Even if Nikola does come over, if Pau is traded, I'd want a vet to compete with him for minutes. I'd still take a flier on Oak for the min.

I'm all in for Len, nice rebounder, shotblocker , i like vonleh also ( watching him a litte bit last year in Chicago), imo the best players available are inside, we'll see what will happen with mulitinov.

Mbah moute is a nice target too with what we have left.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I.Thomas for a 1yr/$15 or so mil to Chicago and J.Parker to Sacramento for the same deal they gave Lavine look like matches made in heaven.

As for the Spurs, hope they could get one or two of Beasley, Len, Mbah a Moute or even Nogueira. Wish they'd have gone for Ellington over Marco but he probably will get too much. Perhaps Metu will get the typical 2nd round pick contract.

[San Antonio Slayer]

Len would be perfect. he is young, hungry and would be definitely not too expensive. Mbah was after injury during the GSW series but he was THE WORST player in the rotation, was raped on almost every touch he had.

[ElNono]

We don't need anymore guards tbh.

Afflalo and Allen are listed as wings up there, tbh... Napier can shoot. It really depends on what offense the Spurs are going to roll out now that Kawhiso and some other ball stoppers are out. I think the Beli signing leans towards more side to side ball movement and shooting (except when LMA has to have his touches). You can't never have too many shooters, tbh...

[cutewizard]

Trade kawhi for irving plus some, then trade for kevin love

Woooooooo that would be great

[r0drig0lac]

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I really prefer to give Blossomgame a try.

[Spurs da champs]

I really prefer to give Blossomgame a try.
Agreed. Mbah A Moute was especially painful to watch this past post season against Warriors (even more so than Kyle Anderson).

[cutewizard]

Agreed. Mbah A Moute was especially painful to watch this past post season against Warriors (even more so than Kyle Anderson).

How about Marcus Smart?

[Spurs da champs]

How about Marcus Smart?
If the Spurs had the right team, sure.i honestly wouldn't mind him as a Manu replacement either. He does everything solid except shoot, he's a better Kyle Anderson, just shorter.

[cutewizard]

If the Spurs had the right team, sure.i honestly wouldn't mind him as a Manu replacement either. He does everything solid except shoot, he's a better Kyle Anderson, just shorter.

Wish we could get him.....
:bobo

[mystargtr34]

Just saw on REALGM twitter.. Bertans signed for 4 years, $20 Million?

[bklynspursfan]

Just saw on REALGM twitter.. Bertans signed for 4 years, $20 Million?

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[r0drig0lac]

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[cd98]

I guess. A one dimensional player that doesn’t shoot threes well enough to be a one dimensional player.

[tbdog]

Those who are high on Len. The guy can't catch. Maybe if Manu is gone. Man, I'll miss Manu if he goes. Is he still our best passer?

[dbestpro]

Cleveland is looking to trade Korver. Danny Green and his expiring contract would be attractive to the Cavs.

[Spurs da champs]

Cleveland is looking to trade Korver. Danny Green and his expiring contract would be attractive to the Cavs.

Beli makes trading for Korver redudnant, tbh.

[Dex]

Cleveland is looking to trade Korver. Danny Green and his expiring contract would be attractive to the Cavs.

Isn't Korver like 65 now?

[look_at_g_shred]

Beli makes trading for Korver redudnant, tbh.
More like bertans

[cutewizard]

Raptors inquiring??

[Mal]

I would gladly accepts Kawhi's situation to be finally resolved - extension or trade, don't care.

[MoSpur02]

Per Woj, Mbah a Moute has agreed to a one year deal with the Clippers. $4.3 million.

[HarlemHeat37]

Nice, Houston loses 2 players that played a large role in their defensive improvement and they don't have replacements for either..

[Rocalcio]

Nice, Houston loses 2 players that played a large role in their defensive improvement and they don't have replacements for either..


They’re targeting Melo, won’t be the same defensively :lol

[DPG21920]

Houston has 80M tied up in just Harden & CP. Add Capela to that? Yikes.

[spurraider21]

Houston has 80M tied up in just Harden & CP. Add Capela to that? Yikes.
20 mil to ryan anderson

[Gibbz]

What is Forbes waiting on?

[spurraider21]

What is Forbes waiting on?
what are the spurs waiting on before withdrawing their QO?

[Gibbz]

what are the spurs waiting on before withdrawing their QO?

I'd be down with that--just seems insane for him to not have already signed.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'd be down with that--just seems insane for him to not have already signed.

Could be included in a trade.

[DPG21920]

20 mil to ryan anderson

I mean, Gasol did the Spurs a massive favor which is why he got a bad contract, but even his bad contract is up before Ryan Anderson’s functionally :lol

[tonight...you]

I mean, Gasol did the Spurs a massive favor which is why he got a bad contract, but even his bad contract is up before Ryan Anderson’s functionally :lol
Nice. Me rikey.

[Mr. Body]

Houston basically had a single year window of contention. They blew it.

[SAGirl]

20 mil to ryan anderson
DAF86

That is what overrated and overpaid really looks like to me.

[DAF86]

DAF86

That is what overrated and overpaid really looks like to me.

There are different degrees of overpaying.

[SAGirl]

There are different degrees of overpaying.
To some degrees at any given point a roleplayer can be overpaid. For example, Danny's deal was great initially, as he got older, it doesn't look so good. The Spurs have also tried to move him without success... but he still produces so he's not hugely overpaid. Difficult to make a claim about roleplayers in small deals if they are playing... a lot if will be up to your subjective evaluation... but Guys who are on massive contracts become albatrosses, and guys in smaller contracts but who aren't giving you zilch are evidently overpaid, like Boban's deal for a human victory cigar...

[cjw]

Houston basically had a single year window of contention. They blew it.

Despite taking the Warriors to seven games, they still somehow got outscored by the Warriors than each of the Spurs, Pelicans and Cavs (who got swept).

They really did blow it. Their wing defensive depth is all gone and the Warriors will run the score up on them. At least they still have Tucker. That Anderson contract is so damn bad.

[ace3g]

David Aldridge‏Verified account @daldridgetnt (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt) 10h10 hours ago (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1016383479054028807)




Cavaliers had a group in this morning to see workout of UFA @TreBall21 (https://twitter.com/TreBall21), per league sources. Cleveland has strong interest; Minnesota in as well. Hornets did not give Graham a QO in June, making him unrestricted. Good 3 and D wing potential.

David Aldridge‏Verified account @daldridgetnt (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt) 10h10 hours ago (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1016384736904835073)




GM Koby Altman and assistant GM Mike Gansey among the Cavs’ contingent that saw Graham work out in Vegas.

[ace3g]

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Celtics) Marcus Smart.
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[NASpurs]

:lol the spin is in full force in Houston

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Celtics) Marcus Smart.
7:55pm · 9 Jul 2018 (https://twitter.com/ASherrodblakely/status/1016486133461422082) · Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/download/iphone)

Probably the only team that could offer something near to what he thinks he's worth...anything more to 12 millions per year for four years anfd I yhink Celtics won't match...
Sacramento just need what Smart provides...strenght, energy, will to fight on avery 50/50 ball, winning attitude...qualities I would like someone take on the Spurs...that could be a leader.

[cutewizard]

Spurs number 2 in West

[tbdog]

:lol the spin is in full force in Houston

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Their window is still open for 2 more seasons if they get their Center back. But with Warriors so far in front, their only chance is in 2020. And that is if Warriors break up. Very high chance Durant leaves, Cousins leaves. And then Klay is a free agent.

[cutewizard]

Their window is still open for 2 more seasons if they get their Center back. But with Warriors so far in front, their only chance is in 2020. And that is if Warriors break up. Very high chance Durant leaves, Cousins leaves. And then Klay is a free agent.

To where is Durant most likely leaving?

[cutewizard]

If Marcus Smart is smart, he would choose the Spurs

[tbdog]

To where is Durant most likely leaving?

Knicks or Wizards is my guess. He didn't sign a max. He took a 2-year player opt out. Not even a 2 year with no option, which meant he didn't even take a 2-year max. Reading between the lines and it's very obvious he isn't fitting into the team as a person, winning isn't everything etc. He will get the 3pet, and take playoff basketball as the leader, ie Knicks and start setting up for the future after basketball, all while being the man, racking up points, leaderboards and records.

[cutewizard]

Knicks or Wizards is my guess. He didn't sign a max. He took a 2-year player opt out. Not even a 2 year with no option, which meant he didn't even take a 2-year max. Reading between the lines and it's very obvious he isn't fitting into the team as a person, winning isn't everything etc. He will get the 3pet, and take playoff basketball as the leader, ie Knicks and start setting up for the future after basketball, all while being the man, racking up points, leaderboards and records.

:bobo

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Source: After striking out on Zach Levine, the Sacramento Kings are preparing to put together an offer #Celtics Marcus Smart.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sacramento need another poor shooter like a shot in the head. Guess it means they'll definitely offer Smart $20 mil per.

[bklynspursfan]

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[SAGirl]

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Wohoooooo!!!

Ok. I think it’s probably a cheap deal. So long as he’s not played as a wing on tall players he should be fine. I used to like his scoring ability a lot. He was just placed in a lot of situations he was overmatched, undersized and played too many minutes. I think in a role more adequate and with added experience he will be better. I wish him a good season. It will be interesting to see his deal. I expect it to be close to what his QO was.

[Seventyniner]

Maybe re-signing Forbes is a sign that the Spurs are trying to trade Mills? I'm grasping at straws here.