Official 2022 NBA Draft thread

[rascal]

It’s about experience. Jak is and elite screener, he’ll quarterback your defense, and he won’t take shots away from LaMelo. Most young players are looking to make their mark, and that means scoring. Just look at the Ayton situation in Phoenix.

This would not excite LaMelo.

[BatManu20]

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[Dex]

League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection. One of the teams they’ve had talks with is Portland. If Atlanta stays put, Eason makes sense because of his multi-positional defense, size, and playmaking.

Source: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Down at pick #16

[mo7888]

This would not excite LaMelo.

Yea, but he'd be less excited with a rookie C..and they'd have fewer wins as well with a rookie C.

[mo7888]

This would not excite LaMelo.

Yea, but he'd be less excited with a rookie C..and they'd have fewer wins as well with a rookie C.

[Mr. Body]

League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection. One of the teams they’ve had talks with is Portland. If Atlanta stays put, Eason makes sense because of his multi-positional defense, size, and playmaking.

Source: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Down at pick #16

KOC is pretty terrible. And that's an awful draft for the Spurs. Dieng Jovic Hardy is godawful.

[exstatic]

League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection. One of the teams they’ve had talks with is Portland. If Atlanta stays put, Eason makes sense because of his multi-positional defense, size, and playmaking.

Source: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Down at pick #16

I like just about everything about JC, except his health. He can’t seem to stay on the floor.

[rascal]

I like just about everything about JC, except his health. He can’t seem to stay on the floor.

Those picks were still unknown unlike these picks.

Doubt Charlotte parts with both 13 and 15.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Denver trying to move up imo.

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[Mnky]

That would be a reach.

Mark would be a good pick. You might be able to get more potential, or a more pressing position, or a more star worthy wing type, but Mark is still a good pick. Just not the homerun pick people like to fantasize about.

His natural reach makes him easier to recover defending g the pick and roll without being abused as much as a normal center in today's game. He's a great rim protector, shows signs of a true jump shot and is much more ferocious around the rim than any center the spurs have had in a long while outside of LMA playing out of position. He attacks the rim much more than advertised down low.

Reality is, for his position, he would be a good pick. Has potential to be more but like I said, it's just not the homerun feeling as those usually come with an exciting wing.

[rankingtear]

Ousmane Dieng is the pick based on all the smoke. OKC would try to jump ahead of us.

[Dejounte]

How far up can Denver move up with 21 and 30? They may want their hometown boy, Jalen Williams

[KingKev]

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Atleast we can cross the risk of him at #9.

[CGD]

Denver trying to move up imo.

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This is exactly the type of trade I want the spurs to make… basically to role over #25 for a FRP in the future.

[KingKev]

Denver trying to move up imo.

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Even if they keep it versus consolidating decent move depending on the protection on the 2027 first. Plus get out of 8mm for Green

[Degoat]

I’d say there’s 3 Tiers in this draft and then everybody else. No particular order, just breaking prospects down into tiers and the range they might get drafted in.

Tier 1 picks (1-7)
Jabari Smith
Chet Holmgren
Paulo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Shaedon Sharpe
Keegan Murray
Bennedict Mathurin

Tier 2 picks (8-15)
Johnny Davis
Dyson Daniels
Jalen Duren
Jeremy Sochan
Mark Williams
Ousmane Dieng
Malaki Branham
Aj Griffin

Tier 3 picks (16-23)
Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Jalen Williams
Nikola Jovic
Tyty Washington
Blake Wesley
Dalen Terry
Marjon Beauchamp

Tier 4 (everybody else)

[mo7888]

I’d say there’s 3 Tiers in this draft and then everybody else. No particular order, just breaking prospects down into tiers and the range they might get drafted in.

Tier 1 picks (1-7)
Jabari Smith
Chet Holmgren
Paulo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Shaedon Sharpe
Keegan Murray
Bennedict Mathurin


Tier 2 picks (8-15)
Johnny Davis
Dyson Daniels
Jalen Duren
Jeremy Sochan
Mark Williams
Ousmane Dieng
Malaki Branham
Aj Griffin

Tier 3 picks (16-23)
Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Jalen Williams
Nikola Jovic
Tyty Washington
Blake Wesley
Dalen Terry
Marjon Beauchamp

Tier 4 (everybody else)

I'm not to far from you...

Tier 1
1. Paolo Banchero
2. Jabari Smith
3. Chet Holmgren
4. Jaden Ivey
Tier 2
5. Keegan Murray
6. Benedict Mathurin
7. Shaedon Sharpe
8. Jalen Duren
9. Dyson Daniels
10. Johnny Davis
Tier 3
11. Ousmane Dieng
12. Jalen Williams
13. Jeremy Sochan
14. AJ Griffin
15. Malaki Branham
16. Mark Williams
Tier 4
17. Gabriele Procida
18. Tari Eason
19. Blake Wesley
20. EJ Liddell
21. Nikola Jovic
22. Ochai Agbagi
Tier 5
23. Jaden Hardy
24. Dalen Terry
25. Patrick Baldwin Jr
26. TyTy Washington Jr
27. John Butler Jr
28. Christian Koloko
29. Wendell Moore Jr
30. MarJon Beauchamp

[Degoat]

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I'm not to far from you...

Tier 1
1. Paolo Banchero
2. Jabari Smith
3. Chet Holmgren
4. Jaden Ivey
Tier 2
5. Keegan Murray
6. Benedict Mathurin
7. Shaedon Sharpe
8. Jalen Duren
9. Dyson Daniels
10. Johnny Davis
Tier 3
11. Ousmane Dieng
12. Jalen Williams
13. Jeremy Sochan
14. AJ Griffin
15. Malaki Branham
16. Mark Williams
Tier 4
17. Gabriele Procida
18. Tari Eason
19. Blake Wesley
20. EJ Liddell
21. Nikola Jovic
22. Ochai Agbagi
Tier 5
23. Jaden Hardy
24. Dalen Terry
25. Patrick Baldwin Jr
26. TyTy Washington Jr
27. John Butler Jr
28. Christian Koloko
29. Wendell Moore Jr
30. MarJon Beauchamp

True pretty close to the same! Agbaji is a guy I forgot about tbh looking at yours lol he’d probably be in my tier 3 I honestly think after pick 22ish the draft will be chaos with guys going all over the place based off teams big boards

[BatManu20]

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[Thomas82]

Mark would be a good pick. You might be able to get more potential, or a more pressing position, or a more star worthy wing type, but Mark is still a good pick. Just not the homerun pick people like to fantasize about.

His natural reach makes him easier to recover defending g the pick and roll without being abused as much as a normal center in today's game. He's a great rim protector, shows signs of a true jump shot and is much more ferocious around the rim than any center the spurs have had in a long while outside of LMA playing out of position. He attacks the rim much more than advertised down low.

Reality is, for his position, he would be a good pick. Has potential to be more but like I said, it's just not the homerun feeling as those usually come with an exciting wing.

I wouldn't be upset if we picked him, but I just don't like him at 9.

[Ditty]

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He has 25th pick written all over him.

[Drom John]

Pelton's final stats only rankings has Procida 16th, the only international in the top 30.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/ChaseHughesNBCS/status/1536368867798286336

[rjv]

i'm a little wary of pelton's projections considering that patrick baldwin III is 14th on that list. he was high on van vleet in 216 though (had him ranked 3rd). he had jokic at 5th in 2014.

[objective]

Procida Train, all aboard!

Choo choo!

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1536456549136224256

be ready

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Mark Williams also

[Degoat]

Procida Train, all aboard!

Choo choo!

I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho

[rascal]

I’d say there’s 3 Tiers in this draft and then everybody else. No particular order, just breaking prospects down into tiers and the range they might get drafted in.

Tier 1 picks (1-7)
Jabari Smith
Chet Holmgren
Paulo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Shaedon Sharpe
Keegan Murray
Bennedict Mathurin

Tier 2 picks (8-15)
Johnny Davis
Dyson Daniels
Jalen Duren
Jeremy Sochan
Mark Williams
Ousmane Dieng
Malaki Branham
Aj Griffin

Tier 3 picks (16-23)
Tari Eason
EJ Liddell
Jalen Williams
Nikola Jovic
Tyty Washington
Blake Wesley
Dalen Terry
Marjon Beauchamp

Tier 4 (everybody else)

I expect your tier 1 to get drafted exactly the way you have them listed.

Starting at pick 8 then there will be unknown what the team will do picks and reaches.

That's why if the Spurs can make a trade to move up just two spots to 7 they can guarantee one of the tier 1 players.

[John B]

I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho

I think he got the wink from Manu. They have to stash a player, no way to bring in 4 rookies

[rjv]

yeah, i'm definitely for procida if he's still around at 25.

[objective]

I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho

I don't even want him stashed. Put him on the roster, get this train rolling. choo choo

[objective]

I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho

I don't even want him stashed. Put him on the roster, get this train rolling. choo choo

[mo7888]

I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho

I don't think he's willing to be stashed...I also don't think he's still on the board at 20 so it'll be a moot point..

[TD 21]

Have Pelton's rankings been posted (for some reason, I can't see certain things lately) or are people looking for them to be? I've got them.

[rjv]

Have Pelton's rankings been posted (for some reason, I can't see certain things lately) or are people looking for them to be? I've got them.


30 Mark Williams Duke C Top 100: No. 26 Stats: No. 53


Consensus: 0.9 WARP


It's easy to see how Williams would fit in an NBA system as a rim protector at one end and rim runner on the other. His projected 60% accuracy on 2-point attempts ranks third among top-100 prospects, while Williams' block rate is above average for a center, as well.


29 Malaki Branham Ohio State SG Top 100: No. 23 Stats: No. 54


Consensus: 0.9 WARP


Branham showed impressive progress within his freshman season, averaging 16.9 PPG after the calendar turned to 2022, up from 6.3 PPG in the 2021 portion of the schedule. His 42.5% 3-point shooting and 83% accuracy from the line portend NBA-caliber floor spacing, though Branham's low steal rate is a question mark.


28 Ochai Agbaji Kansas SG Top 100: No. 13 Stats: No. 70


Consensus: 1.0 WARP


The stats-only projection might undersell Agbaji's improvement as a shooter, having hit 39% of his 6.9 3-point attempts each of the past two seasons. That was matched this year by 77% 3-point shooting. Agbaji also projects as a strong individual perimeter defender, though he generates relatively few steals and blocks.


27 Marcus Bagley Arizona State PF Top 100: NR Stats: No. 19


Consensus: 1.0 WARP


Considered a likely early second-round pick last year, Bagley withdrew his name to return for a second season at Arizona State. In his third game, Bagley suffered a season-ending knee injury. That could lead Bagley to stay in school, which would give him an opportunity to show his 5-of-13 start from 3-point range to 2021-22 was a legitimate step forward.


26 Jabari Walker Colorado PF Top 100: No. 63 Stats: No. 17


Consensus: 1.0 WARP


At 6-foot-8, Walker has the best projected rebound rate among non-centers in this year's top 100. Add in 36% 3-point shooting on 3.2 attempts per game and you've got the makings of a useful NBA player.


25 E.J. Liddell Ohio State PF Top 100: No. 15 Stats: No. 61


Consensus: 1.0 WARP


Liddell has shown strong improvement over the course of his college career, including an unlikely emergence as a premier shot-blocker this season at 6-foot-7. He also hit a career-high 54% of his 2s and 38% of his 3s, showing more than enough skill to stick in the NBA.


24 Keon Ellis Alabama G/F Top 100: No. 45 Stats: No. 21


Consensus: 1.1 WARP


Ellis rates as the Crimson Tide's top prospect ahead of true freshman point guard JD Davison, who didn't crack the top 30. Ellis has a clear NBA role as a 3-and-D wing, having hit 36% of his 3-point attempts in two years at Alabama. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would represent a better-case scenario for Ellis' development.


23 Blake Wesley Notre Dame SG Top 100: No. 31 Stats: No. 26


Consensus: 1.1 WARP


As a true freshman, Wesley was even more of a volume scorer than Davis, combining 31% usage with a .509 true shooting percentage. His statistical projection is better because he's a year younger and has been a superior playmaker.


22 Johnny Davis Wisconsin SG Top 100: No. 9 Stats: No. 71


Consensus: 1.1 WARP


The lowest-rated player in the top 10 of the draft rankings, Davis has been a volume scorer at Wisconsin. His 32% usage rate this season ranks fourth among players from major conferences, per Stathead.com, but Davis' .526 true shooting percentage was substantially below average. Typically, contested shot making at the NCAA level hasn't translated well against better defenders in the NBA. We'll see if Davis can be an exception to the rule.


21 Hyunjung Lee Davidson SF Top 100: No. 97 Stats: No. 14


Consensus: 1.1 WARP


Bidding to become just the second Korean player in NBA history, Lee stands out with his shooting: 39.5% for his career on a high volume of attempts (5.5 per game in 2020-21 and 6.2 this season).


20 Jacob Gilyard Richmond PG Top 100: NR Stats: No. 13


Consensus: 1.2 WARP


A longtime favorite of my projections because of his off-the-charts steal rate, Gilyard became the NCAA's all-time steals leader in December. It helped that he returned for a fifth year, meaning Gilyard will turn 24 in July. He's also 5-foot-9, so it's easy to see why NBA teams haven't been excited about Gilyard as a prospect. Still, there might be a role for him as a Jose Alvarado-style energizer off the bench.


19 Kendall Brown Baylor SF Top 100: No. 17 Stats: No. 41


Consensus: 1.2 WARP


At 6-foot-8, 205 pounds, Brown has the frame and physical ability NBA teams covet on the wing. He has also hit 39% of his 3s at Baylor, though that has come on just 36 attempts -- and Brown's 70% free throw shooting suggests regression ahead. Brown could help his statistical projection by using his length to force more steals and block more shots.


18 TyTy Washington Jr. Kentucky PG Top 100: No. 11 Stats: No. 50


Consensus: 1.3 WARP


As compared to fellow SEC freshman point guard Kennedy Chandler, Washington wasn't as productive in any category, save avoiding turnovers. Washington believers would point out that he had to make more of an adjustment to playing frequently off the ball alongside veteran point guard Sahvir Wheeler.


17 Christian Braun Kansas SG Top 100: No. 34 Stats: No. 16


Consensus: 1.4 WARP


I wouldn't be surprised to see Braun move up draft boards during the workout process. He's a dangerous shooter on the wing (37.5% from 3-point range in three college seasons) reminiscent of Kevin Huerter, another late riser who ended up going 19th overall.


16 Trevor Keels Duke G/F Top 100: No. 25 Stats: No. 18


Consensus: 1.5 WARP


Shooting will be the swing skill for Keels, who burst on the scene with 25 points against Kentucky in the Champions Classic but topped 20 points just two other times all season. He shot 32% on 3s and just 68% from the foul line, but he's young enough at 18 years old to continue developing.


15 Zach Edey Purdue C Top 100: No. 60 Stats: No. 6


Consensus: 1.6 WARP


The 7-foot-4 Edey averaged a monstrous 30.4 points and 16.2 rebounds per 40 minutes splitting time with Trevion Williams at center while shooting 65.5% from the field. His difficulty defending on the perimeter, however, could limit Edey to a role similar to the one Boban Marjanovic has played in the NBA as a part-time contributor whose value is dependent on finding appropriate matchups.


14 Patrick Baldwin Jr. Milwaukee F Top 100: No. 28 Stats: No. 12


Consensus: 1.6 WARP


Because an ankle injury limited Baldwin to just 11 games at Milwaukee, where he shot 34% from the field, his impressive stats-only ranking is based largely on his performance in the 2019 Nike EYBL. There, Baldwin established himself as a top-five recruit entering college, showing more offensive efficiency and playmaking ability at 6-foot-9.


13 Kennedy Chandler Tennessee PG Top 100: No. 22 Stats: No. 15


Consensus: 1.7 WARP


There's a bit of a drop after the top 12 to the next tier of prospects. Chandler has been productive for a freshman point guard, particularly as a ball hawk. His projected steal rate ranks second behind Tari Eason among prospects in the top 100.


12 Jaden Ivey Purdue G Top 100: No. 4 Stats: No. 39


Consensus: 2.0 WARP


The other top-five prospect who lags statistically, Ivey's weak efficiency as a freshman (.497 true shooting percentage) hurts him here because my models put more weight on early college performance. Ivey does seem like the type of player whose physical ability will be more valuable with better floor spacing in the NBA.


11 Paolo Banchero Duke PF Top 100: No. 3 Stats: No. 51


Consensus: 2.0 WARP


Compared to the other two contenders for the top pick, Banchero doesn't project as well statistically because his efficiency (.551 true shooting percentage) was only average for a college player. Banchero hit 53% of his 2-point attempts and 31% of his 3s, the latter mark one scouts hope will improve based on his 73% foul shooting. Banchero also wasn't as impactful defensively as Chet Holmgren and Jabari Smith, hurting his projection. Still, there are examples of top-three picks with similar statistical projections going on to become NBA stars, most notably Deron Williams and fellow Duke product Jayson Tatum.


10 Jeremy Sochan Baylor PF Top 100: No. 16 Stats: No. 9


Consensus: 2.1 WARP


Sochan has started just one game for the defending champs as a true freshman but done a little of everything off the bench for Baylor. Sochan benefits here from regressing his 29% 3-point shooting to the mean. His poor foul shooting (57.5%) suggests Sochan might continue to struggle in the NBA, meaning he will want to cut his 2.6 attempts per game.


9 Bennedict Mathurin Arizona G/F Top 100: No. 12 Stats: No. 10


Consensus: 2.2 WARP


Mathurin's smooth 3-point stroke and ability to create his own shot make him a top-10 statistical prospect. Just two players in the top 30 of the draft rankings are projected to shoot better from beyond the arc than Mathurin, who hit 42% of his 3s as a true freshman before dipping a bit to 38% this season.


8 Tari Eason LSU F Top 100: No. 14 Stats: No. 5


Consensus: 2.4 WARP


After a modest freshman year at Cincinnati, Eason blossomed into the nation's top sixth man following a transfer to LSU. His low minutes average (24.6 per game) hides how productive Eason has been. He averaged 27.5 points and 3.3 steals per 40 minutes. Eason joins Williamson and Florida State's Chris Singleton as the third player in my database with projected steal and block rates both better than 2.5%.


7 Dyson Daniels G League Ignite G Top 100: No. 10 Stats: No. 7


Consensus: 2.5 WARP


After yielding two of the top seven picks last summer (Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga), this year's group of Ignite prospects isn't considered quite as strong. Daniels, however, joins the top four overall prospects as the fifth player in the top 10 of both our draft rankings and my stats-only projections -- typically a strong indicator of future success. Daniels led the Ignite in my wins above replacement player (WARP) metric during the Showcase season.


6 Jalen Duren Memphis C Top 100: No. 6 Stats: No. 11


Consensus: 2.6 WARP


The youngest prospect in the top 100 (his 19th birthday is in November), Duren was a key part of Memphis' second-half surge with his strong shot-blocking for an NBA-bound center and powerful offensive rebounding. Scouts will hope for the Tigers to beat Boise State in the opening round, setting up a likely matchup against Gonzaga and Chet Holmgren on Saturday in Portland.


5 Walker Kessler Auburn C Top 100: No. 19 Stats: No. 2


Consensus: 2.7 WARP


Jabari Smith's frontcourt mate actually projects better statistically thanks to 73% accuracy on 2-point attempts and the highest projected block rate (more than 8% of opponent 2-point attempts) of any player in my database by a wide margin. Scouts are probably right to wonder whether Kessler can be a big-minutes player in the NBA given his penchant for occasional foul trouble (he fouled out of three games, one in just 12 minutes) and defensive limitations. But Kessler's rim protection, finishing and willingness to hoist 3s (10-of-49 this season) make him an intriguing prospect outside the lottery.


4 AJ Griffin Duke F Top 100: No. 8 Stats: No. 3


Consensus: 2.9 WARP


Despite coming off the bench at the start of the season as he recovered from a knee injury in training camp and averaging a modest 10.4 PPG, Griffin projects as Duke's best prospect on the strength of his 47% 3-point shooting and youth (he won't turn 19 until August). Whether Griffin can hold up as a power forward in the NBA will help determine whether he can live up to this lofty projection.


3 Keegan Murray Iowa PF Top 100: No. 5 Stats: No. 4


Consensus: 3.0 WARP


Murray has climbed draft boards on the strength of a terrific first season as a full-time starter at Iowa, capped by averaging 25.8 PPG on 56% shooting and 9.0 RPG as the Hawkeyes won the Big Ten tournament. And yet he's still not quite as high as in my stats-only projections, resulting in cracking the top three of the consensus model. Murray combines volume and efficiency as a scorer as well as any prospect, and is also a top-tier shot-blocker for a power forward.


2 Jabari Smith Auburn PF Top 100: No. 2 Stats: No. 8


Consensus: 3.3 WARP


From a statistical standpoint, Smith's low 2-point percentage (44%) limits his projection a bit. Per Synergy Sports tracking, Smith made just 60% of his attempts inside 5 feet, as compared to 82.5% for Chet Holmgren. Smith is also fond of long 2-point attempts, which he makes at a decent clip (40%) but are not nearly as valuable as his 43% shooting from beyond the arc. Still, Smith projects well and has time at just 18 years old to improve on those weaknesses.


1 Chet Holmgren Gonzaga PF Top 100: No. 1 Stats: No. 1


Consensus: 4.4 WARP

[TD 21]

The most recent one is . . .

1. Holmgren 4.4 WARP
2. Smith 3.3
3. Murray 3
4. Griffin 2.7
5. Daniels 2.7
6. Kessler 2.6
7. Mathurin 2.4
8. Eason 2.2
9. Sochan 2.2
10. Sharpe 2.1
11. Banchero 2.1
12. Ivey 1.9
13. Duren 1.8
14. Chandler 1.6
15. Baldwin Jr. 1.5
16. Braun 1.8 (presumably meant 4)
17. Branham 1.3
18. M. Williams 1.3
19. Keels 1.3
20. Davis 1.1
21. Watson 1.1
22. Wesley 1.1
23. Lee 1.1
24. Procida 1.0
25. Walker 1.0
26. Minott 1.0
27. Terry 1.0
28. Washington Jr. 1.0
29. Gilyard 0.9
30. Liddell 0.9

[The Truth #6]

That’s an interesting list. Makes me think about Dyson Daniels or Tari Eason at 9 even more.

[Dejounte]

Pelton in 2019:
Bol Bol at 6
Reddish at 5
Culver at 7
Lawson at 9
shamorie who? Ponds at 11
john konchar at 14

in 2020:
Okongwu at 7
Hampton at 8
nesmith at 10
isaiah joe at 11
Malaki flynn at 14

[Mr. Body]

Pelton in 2019:
Bol Bol at 6
Reddish at 5
Culver at 7
Lawson at 9
shamorie who? Ponds at 11
john konchar at 14

in 2020:
Okongwu at 7
Hampton at 8
nesmith at 10
isaiah joe at 11
Malaki flynn at 14

A Who's Who of the most impactful guys in the NBA.

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1536456549136224256

be ready

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Mark Williams also
Alright, which one of these guys gets Aaron Rodgers'd?

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/ChaseHughesNBCS/status/1536368867798286336

That's exciting news.

I wasn't sure they would be interested in Wesley. I wonder if it was a solo or in a group workout setting?

[objective]

They invite too many guys. Should be capped at 14.

[Mr. Body]

They invite too many guys. Should be capped at 14.

This is where teams get to know players who may be available, free agents, available for trade, or go undrafted in the next years. It's why you see so many marginal players get invited to visit teams. You don't get this opportunity to talk to them and learn a bit about who they are.

[tonight...you]

They invite too many guys. Should be capped at 14.
It's not just about the Draft, my myopic friend.
It's also getting a feel when second contracts, or trades come up.
Oh yeah...
And G-League and two-way stuff also.
That kind of happens also.

[The Truth #6]

It’s also the only opportunity for Pop to teach the next generation about pinot noir and why merlot is overrated.

[Dejounte]

I cant believe we are less than 10 days away

[objective]

This is where teams get to know players who may be available, free agents, available for trade, or go undrafted in the next years. It's why you see so many marginal players get invited to visit teams. You don't get this opportunity to talk to them and learn a bit about who they are.


It's not just about the Draft, my myopic friend.
It's also getting a feel when second contracts, or trades come up.
Oh yeah...
And G-League and two-way stuff also.
That kind of happens also.

I'm talking about the green room for the draft broadcast. Too many guys, they're begging to have someone slip to the second so the camera can be up in their face in hopes of tears

[slick'81]

Spurs fan pinning alot of hope on that #9 selection

[PhantomDashCam]

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Another tidbit from Barlow that hints at this:




Jerami Grant continues to be one of the hottest names in trade rumors as he has multiple suitors reaching out to Detroit hoping to strike a deal this offseason after being denied by the Pistons at the trade deadline in February. Detroit has its franchise centerpiece in Cade Cunningham, plus the No. 5 pick in the 2022 draft and cap space, and any deal involving Grant is likely to land the Pistons at least an additional first-round pick, preferably in the lottery.


Detroit is doing its due diligence and bringing in prospects for workouts as if it is going to have multiple first-round picks.

[lmbebo]

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Another tidbit from Barlow that hints at this:

Only team I could see giving up a pick for Grant is a team like atlanta wanting to get back into the lottery and having other pieces.

Might be worth a mid to late 1st round pick.

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There we go. Mark Williams at #9 confirmed.

Do not want.

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That would be a reach.

Of Inspector Gadget proportions

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KOC is pretty terrible. And that's an awful draft for the Spurs. Dieng Jovic Hardy is godawful.

HARD DISAGREE.

[Mr. Body]

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Another tidbit from Barlow that hints at this:

I can't imagine spending a lottery pick for Jerami Grant. Seems so stupid.

[Mr. Body]

HARD DISAGREE.

KOC made his reputation going all in on Killian Hayes. His site looks great, his takes are pretty terrible.

[rankingtear]

There is a rumor that OKC wants to trade up to the top 10 to pick to jump someone. Speculation is the SAS for Sochan but it might be Dieng. Dieng is a young raw 6-9 shotmaker rebuilding teams with multiple picks usually go for.

[Mr. Body]

There is a rumor that OKC wants to trade up to the top 10 to pick to jump someone. Speculation is the SAS for Sochan but it might be Dieng. Dieng is a young raw 6-9 shotmaker rebuilding teams with multiple picks usually go for.

Yeah seems like OKC will get another pick in the top 10. No clue what their plan is - they seem all over the place. If they take Chet, they may want Sochan to help him out. But it could be anybody. I'd be surprised to see SA trade with them, though.

[slick'81]

Fck you presti! Stay away from our guys:lol

[Mr. Body]

I actually think Presti would be after Duren.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Dejounte, where is the poll? Ya slackin.

Who is Team Duren here for 9?

[Thomas82]

Of Inspector Gadget proportions

Cosign!!

[Thomas82]

Dejounte, where is the poll? Ya slackin.

Who is Team Duren here for 9?

I'm Team Duren 100%.

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KOC made his reputation going all in on Killian Hayes. His site looks great, his takes are pretty terrible.

Not talking about KOC. Coming out with that group of players in the first round would be a steal, tbh.

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Yeah seems like OKC will get another pick in the top 10. No clue what their plan is - they seem all over the place. If they take Chet, they may want Sochan to help him out. But it could be anybody. I'd be surprised to see SA trade with them, though.

They want Dieng. 100%. And of they can get him before SA does at 9, they will.

[rankingtear]

I actually think Presti would be after Duren.

Sam is allergic to traditional bigs. Roby and JRE are his preferred 5.

[Mr. Body]

They want Dieng. 100%. And of they can get him before SA does at 9, they will.

Lol, we have no idea who they're targeting. Give me a break.

[Mr. Body]

Sam is allergic to traditional bigs. Roby and JRE are his preferred 5.

Riiiiiight, the guy who drafted Serge Ibaka.

[John B]

They want Dieng. 100%. And of they can get him before SA does at 9, they will.

Dieng is a good high rewards project for OKC and they have time

[JPB]

Dejounte, where is the poll? Ya slackin.

Who is Team Duren here for 9?

I'm Duren Duren.

[rankingtear]

New Orleans GM already seen scouting OKC Micic, probably close to done that OKC jumps to 8. OKC fans think it is Shaedon Sharpe though.

[exstatic]

Sam is allergic to traditional bigs. Roby and JRE are his preferred 5.

Duren is like a slightly larger, much better RW III type center. Mark Williams is your traditional center.

[mo7888]

Dieng is a good high rewards project for OKC and they have time

Do they really have time? I mean SGA is now in his max contract and I'm sure he's tired of losing...I think their window of time is shrinking..

[JPB]

New Orleans GM already seen scouting OKC Micic, probably close to done that OKC jumps to 8. OKC fans wish it is Shaedon Sharpe though.

FIFY.

Just like Spurs fans wish CHA wants Poetl.

[Mr. Body]

New Orleans GM already seen scouting OKC Micic, probably close to done that OKC jumps to 8. OKC fans think it is Shaedon Sharpe though.

My guess is that Sharpe is gone well before the #8 pick, unless somehow they have intel that he's dropping. Of course they may have more than one player they're targeting.

For my money, putting Holmgren next to Duren is salivating. One is a spacer, both are aggressive defenders. That would potentially be insane.

[mo7888]

My guess is that Sharpe is gone well before the #8 pick, unless somehow they have intel that he's dropping. Of course they may have more than one player they're targeting.

For my money, putting Holmgren next to Duren is salivating. One is a spacer, both are aggressive defenders. That would potentially be insane.

That would be a scary lineup in a couple years...add a 3D sf and they'd be on their way..

[Ariel]

New Orleans GM already seen scouting OKC Micic, probably close to done that OKC jumps to 8. OKC fans think it is Shaedon Sharpe though.
His rights won't get them to jump 4 spots into the top 10. They have more than enough assets to do it if they want to, however.

[Ariel]

For my money, putting Holmgren next to Duren is salivating. One is a spacer, both are aggressive defenders. That would potentially be insane.
That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.

[rankingtear]

Do they really have time? I mean SGA is now in his max contract and I'm sure he's tired of losing...I think their window of time is shrinking..

They won't miss out on tanking for the french kid next draft.

[Mr. Body]

That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.

I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.

[Ariel]

They want Dieng. 100%. And of they can get him before SA does at 9, they will.
If they REALLY want him, they can get him. No one else has as many assets to pull it off, and it should be no problem using some of that to trade with someone in the 5-8 range... it's not like it's full of franchise prospects there. So if they don't, it's because they are not really that high on him.

[Ariel]

I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.
If a team can afford to play him next to a more physical big and not demand him to carry a large offensive load, that's his best scenario, so that I agree with.

[Degoat]

I have absolutely no idea what the spurs plan to do lol but they’re in a really good spot tbh I think they’ll let the draft unfold on draft day. All it takes is for a team or two to draft two guys that weren’t expected To go in that range and guys will be falling.

[The Truth #6]

I have absolutely no idea what the spurs plan to do lol but they’re in a really good spot tbh I think they’ll let the draft unfold on draft day. All it takes is for a team or two to draft two guys that weren’t expected To go in that range and guys will be falling.

It's a good point. Keegan Murray could somehow fall. Crazy things happen. And then we'd pass on him to get Dieng. Lol.

[Degoat]

It's a good point. Keegan Murray could somehow fall. Crazy things happen. And then we'd pass on him to get Dieng. Lol.

Its probably been all smoke but I’ve seen reports about Dyson Daniels, Jalen Duren, AJ Griffin all going in the top 5-7 range, that would be Christmas for SA but then they take Dieng like you mentioned lmao

[rankingtear]

Dyson is ATL target if a Collins for #7 gets done per Jake Fischer.

[rjv]

FIFY.

Just like Spurs fans wish CHA wants Poetl.

well, the hornets really need a big and the montrez harrell situation isn't going to help.

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Lol, we have no idea who they're targeting. Give me a break.

Yeah, except for the now two scouts from them saying they either really like him or think he'd be the steal of the draft. If he's available after their first pick at 2, he's going to be selected by OKC. Book it.

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Duren is like a slightly larger, much better RW III type center. Mark Williams is your traditional center.

Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII

[duncan2150]

Its probably been all smoke but I’ve seen reports about Dyson Daniels, Jalen Duren, AJ Griffin all going in the top 5-7 range, that would be Christmas for SA but then they take Dieng like you mentioned lmao

I think they could target Duren or Daniels so not that good. But in final i'm ok they could totally take Dieng.

[rjv]

Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII

duren is pretty solid.

[Mnky]

well, the hornets really need a big and the montrez harrell situation isn't going to help.

They were in the Market for a big and even though many people doubted it, Poetl was an obvious option. People can argue all day of opinion, but poetl is one of the best big men in the league on a team that does not know how to throw a lob. Get Poetl with someone who can run a big man focused lob and he will get even better. He's pretty athletic and a great shot blocker. He has shown this year to be an efficient scorer as well down low. Not the best but definitely not empty stats offensively.

He could easily be a missing piece to a contender who have their stars aligned. He's a great support player who takes pride in doing his job.

I won't be surprised to see him involved during or after the draft to a contender. The Montrez situation didn't play out for the hornets the way they wanted. They're probably regretting not going in stronger at the deadline with last year's fizzle after an exciting start. Montrez barely played late. And now these legal issues as well. Poetls stock has increased. Draft will determine a lot.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, except for the now two scouts from them saying they either really like him or think he'd be the steal of the draft. If he's available after their first pick at 2, he's going to be selected by OKC. Book it.

Except we know they were working out Sharpe. So... nope, we don't know. Book it.

[montgod]

Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII

Interesting enough, in the two comps I've read for Duren, one said Drummond (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/) and the other said Dwight Howard mixed w Chris Webber (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-duren/) so I'm sure body-wise at least he'll fill out lol

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Interesting enough, in the two comps I've read for Duren, one said Drummond (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/) and the other said Dwight Howard mixed w Chris Webber (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-duren/) so I'm sure body-wise at least he'll fill out lol

oh he will. just saying he's not gonna go into the NBA in year 1 or 2 and get after the offensive boards the way RWIII is showing in the playoffs. But yes, I absolutely expect his frame to fill out.

[mo7888]

Duren's body is the least thing anyone should worry about...

I agree with the Dwight/Webber comp btw...

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Except we know they were working out Sharpe. So... nope, we don't know. Book it.

Perhaps they expect him to be gone by pick 10. And perhaps they're doing their due diligence on other players.

Let's make this clear for those in the back. I said OKC will take Dieng with their second pick *if he's still on the board.*

And as another poster said, they have the assets to move up to get him at say 8 if they so choose, and if they think doing so is worthwhile. I'm not making that prediction but i am betting they take him at 10 if he remains.

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Duren's body is the least thing anyone should worry about...

I agree with the Dwight/Webber comp btw...

Sigh. Not worried about it in the least. Merely pointing out he's not going to be RWIII out of the gate.

I'm also simply not as high on him as others are in his overall production at 9. There are about 4 or 5 other players I'd rather have at 9. If he's there at 20, sure, take the kid.

[rjv]

some player (per usual) is going to sneak into the top 10 that one expected to and some other player is going to drop. it wouldn't shock me if duren or davis are gone before 9 or if sharpe and mathurin are still around at 9. what i'd give to see these teams draft boards.

[rascal]

That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.

Best thing to do for OKC is trade the 2 down to 4 and take the asset they get from that trade and add it to the 12 and get 7 or 8. Or trade a current player(Gilgeous-Alexander or Giddey) for 7 or 8 and at 12 draft a center M Williams.

They may come away with Ivey(2) Williams(5) and Sharpe(3) and build around them with Giddey(1).

[BatManu20]

Spurs fan pinning alot of hope on that #9 selection

Dyson Daniels better pan out then.

[td4mvp2k]

i'd forget about the hornets they're set on a C in this draft. instead look at the knicks or cavs for a deal with KJ.

[duncan2150]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299718&page=13

[rascal]

I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.

Good offense beats good defense. No one stops the top offensive players in the league.

You'll never build a winner with a team of defensive players without top scorers.

[Mr. Body]

Good offense beats good defense. No one stops the top offensive players in the league.

You'll never build a winner with a team of defensive players without top scorers.

Okay? Lol. That team has SGA, etc.

[The Truth #6]

Random ideas for drafting:

Guys who Play the Right way: Dyson Daniels, Sochan, Dieng, Jovic, LaRavia, Wendell Moore Jr, Trevor Keels.

Guys with a high Body Mass Index (for the later picks): TyTy Washingon, Trevion Williams, David Roddy, Kessler, Alondes Williams.

Guys who haven't done much yet but are if not young at least look happy and coachable: Caleb Houstan, Max Christie, Dalen Terry, Christian Braun, Bruce McGowens, Ryan Rollins.

Guys with some mystery about their personality who have good potential: Tari Eason, Kendall Brown, Marjon Beauchamp.

Guys who can probably score but likely liability in other ways: Jalen Hardy, Malakai Branham, Patrick Baldwin Jr,

When will the draft get here...

[rascal]

Okay? Lol. That team has SGA, etc.

SGA is a great trade piece.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I am all for Alondes Williams with the 38th pick, his highlights are eye popping and worth the pick there imo. He has that Lonnie athleticism but actually has a good feel for the game unlike Lonnie. Never mind his athleticism his passing was eye popping as well. Went from averaging 6 PPG at Oklahoma to ACC player of the year in just one season.

[Thomas82]

Interesting enough, in the two comps I've read for Duren, one said Drummond (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/) and the other said Dwight Howard mixed w Chris Webber (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-duren/) so I'm sure body-wise at least he'll fill out lol

The comps I heard and read for Duren were a young Dwight Howard and a young, shorter David Robinson.

[BatManu20]

Give me both Demon Deacs tbh.

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[RiverwalkParade]

I am all for Alondes Williams with the 38th pick, his highlights are eye popping and worth the pick there imo. He has that Lonnie athleticism but actually has a good feel for the game unlike Lonnie. Never mind his athleticism his passing was eye popping as well. Went from averaging 6 PPG at Oklahoma to ACC player of the year in just one season.

I’m all for Alondes at 25, even 20. If our scouts think he’s worth a pick that high, and from the tape I’ve seen, then I think he will be a Ginobilli type player for us. Will not think he’s a reach at all.

[BatManu20]

I am all for Alondes Williams with the 38th pick, his highlights are eye popping and worth the pick there imo. He has that Lonnie athleticism but actually has a good feel for the game unlike Lonnie. Never mind his athleticism his passing was eye popping as well. Went from averaging 6 PPG at Oklahoma to ACC player of the year in just one season.

The big knock on Alondes Williams, aside from age, are his turnovers. He averaged 5.2 assists to 3.7 TO on the season. That’s a 1.4. A/TO ratio. He was 5.7 to 4.5 in the conference regular season. That is not good. His assist numbers are great, but he turned the ball over a ton. Like a young Manu indeed.

Also, he turns 23 next week, so not a lot of upside. But at the 38th pick, this isn’t as big of a concern.

[BatManu20]

I’m all for Alondes at 25, even 20. If our scouts think he’s worth a pick that high, and from the tape I’ve seen, then I think he will be a Ginobilli type player for us. Will not think he’s a reach at all.

That would definitely be a reach lol.

[RiverwalkParade]

That would definitely be a reach lol.

Don’t care. With Manu on the staff, if they think Alondes is worthy of a pick in the 20’s then I trust it and would be thrilled.

[BackHome]

Rather get Procida

[rascal]

OK City has a great chance to come out of this draft with much more talent on their team than the Spurs do.

[Degoat]

The spurs have only worked out two guys that are projected to go around 9 right? (At least that’s been reported) Johnny Davis and Dyson Daniels

[PhantomDashCam]

This should be a fun one to discuss in a couple of days.

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[slick'81]

This should be a fun one to discuss in a couple of days.

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depends on your definition of fun

[Thomas82]

I just saw this a little while ago:

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/rumors/duke-star-freshman-being-linked-to-san-antonio-spurs-ahead-of-2022-nba-draft?fbclid=IwAR3Pf6CAYvB1QIitmeiQMOEzLt9N6ZjYdXD uDprzwtyYd2wkEk__EqO3DTk

[T Park]

OK City has a great chance to come out of this draft with much more talent on their team than the Spurs do.


Magic Johnson tweeting level analysis here.

[BatManu20]

Bulls trying to move up.

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[mo7888]

Bulls trying to move up.

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That won't move them up much, if at all, I wouldn't think..

[JPB]

Give me both Demon Deacs tbh.

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If "Jam Hines" and his 866 followers say so, tbh.

[CGD]

Bulls trying to move up.

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And the spurs are shopping a package that includes Lonnie and 20 to teams. Just not worth much tbh.

[Mr. Body]

The the spurs are shopping a package that includes Lonnie and 20 to teams. Just not worth much tbh.

They can't shop Lonnie.

[CGD]

They can't shop Lonnie.

I’m being sarcastic. Coby White ain’t worth shit. Neither is Lonnie

[exstatic]

Don’t care. With Manu on the staff, if they think Alondes is worthy of a pick in the 20’s then I trust it and would be thrilled.

Who said that they said that? I just heard that they liked him.

I think he’s fools gold. He has 4 years of absolute shit numbers, bounces all over the NCAA, and suddenly blows up in year 5, at age 22? People have compared him to Derrick White, but Derrick did VERY well at UCCS, and only transferred to get more visibility at CU, and play in a better conference.

[rascal]

Magic Johnson tweeting level analysis here.

OK City will have a more talented team than the Spurs after this draft.

Especially if they are able to move up using that 12 pick to get two top 10 picks.

They can have four or five studs on the team in a couple of years.

[exstatic]

I just saw this a little while ago:

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/rumors/duke-star-freshman-being-linked-to-san-antonio-spurs-ahead-of-2022-nba-draft?fbclid=IwAR3Pf6CAYvB1QIitmeiQMOEzLt9N6ZjYdXD uDprzwtyYd2wkEk__EqO3DTk

That article is pre-lottery. April.

[rascal]

I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.

Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.

[K...]

Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.

You gonna drop your list of surefire 20ppg scorer's ? I was on team halliburton , so i get it, but this draft is role player heavy. We should take BPA even if its a defender because there just aren't great scoring prospects in the draft

[rascal]

You gonna drop your list of surefire 20ppg scorer's ? I was on team halliburton , so i get it, but this draft is role player heavy. We should take BPA even if its a defender because there just aren't great scoring prospects in the draft

Spurs have to try to move up in the draft and get Murray, Sharpe or Mathurin as those guys have 20+ scoring potential.

[R. DeMurre]

Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.


Chet shot 39% from 3, 74% from 2, and averaged 14 ppg as a freshman... I'm not sure why that would categorize him as a "no offense" guy. I'd wager Chet has the potential to be a better piece for a future championship team than Trae Young or Zach LaVine. Chet just camped out on the three point line might have more gravity than Trae playing his full game.

[exstatic]

Chet shot 39% from 3, 74% from 2, and averaged 14 ppg as a freshman... I'm not sure why that would categorize him as a "no offense" guy. I'd wager Chet has the potential to be a better piece for a future championship team than Trae Young or Zach LaVine. Chet just camped out on the three point line might have more gravity than Trae playing his full game.

He’s skinny and funny looking, and they don’t understand his game, so they shit on it. Chet is the Visigoth tribe coming over the hills and entering Rome. The fans and media trashing him are literally identical to the room full of old scouts resisting Billy Bean in moneyball, having no idea what is coming, and that the game is fundamentally shifting and changing. It’s been changing since the rule outlawing fighting through screens in 2015. The traditional big man is nearly extinct, so you need to find the new big man. Chet is it. Duren is it. RW III is it.

[Chinook]

Give me both Demon Deacs tbh.

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I've been on the Williams bandwagon for a while, and LaRavia is really growing on me. I don't see him being a three in the NBA (just doesn't seem explosive), but he has good ball skills for a PF. While he's always talked about as a defender, most of his highlights are of him scoring. I think he's a sneaky option to fill that defensive perimeter defender with size role that a lot of us have been looking to Eason or Sochan to fill. I don't think he's a shutdown guy, but he's someone who you can platoon on some of the bigger scoring wings (Doncic, Kawhi, Tatum, Giannis) while also being the backbone of a second-unit defense that doesn't currently have a lot of help. Given his shooting, he might be able to be a PJ Tucker with a floor game and should be at worst a more actualized version of KBD.

I wouldn't mind LaRavia at 20 if the Spurs don't get a forward at 9. Something like Mathurin at 9, LaRavia at 20, Alondes Williams at 25 and Koloko at 38 would be interesting. That's a lot of filled hole and with Primo it's a strong summer-league squad (which is the real point of drafting in the first place).

[rankingtear]

Intel mocks are out at 9 it is between Duren and Dieng at 20 jovic and Wesley. 25 is rumored to be traded. Math Dyson and Sharpe mostly consensus going top 8.

[Thomas82]

That article is pre-lottery. April.

Yeah, I see that now.

[rankingtear]

Alondes would be undrafted did not look good in the scrimmage. He is not at the same class as Braun or Jalen at those games.

[John B]

Intel mocks are out at 9 it is between Duren and Dieng at 20 jovic and Wesley. 25 is rumored to be traded. Math Dyson and Sharpe mostly consensus going top 8.

I’m like a boy on Christmas morning with all these new toys, watching all these highlights, and seeing talent deep in the draft. I mean there’s arguement for whoever player depending which direction they take, plus who’s available in trade and free agency. I like Davis because of his 100% play on both sides. Duren is a force in the middle who we’ve been missing, Sochan is seamless fit in what we have right now and will bring that defensive versatility at 4, Dieng is a high risk at 9 but could be high reward (I’d be thrilled at 20), Daniels could be that big defensive SG/SF but a bit redundant especially if Devin takes that leap, Mathurin could fit perfectly besides DJ with his shooting.

Good problem. But that’s why Wright’s making the big money.

[BatManu20]

Man I’ll be so bummed if Dieng ends up being the pick. Just not a huge fan with his bust potential. But knowing the Spurs there’s a decent chance he’s their guy, especially if they’re swinging for the fences. Seeing him more and more in at 9 in mocks. Hope I’m wrong.


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[Mr. Body]

Man I’ll be so bummed if Dieng ends up being the pick. Just not a huge fan with his bust potential. But knowing the Spurs there’s a decent chance he’s their guy, especially if they’re swinging for the fences. Seeing him more and more in at 9 in mocks. Hope I’m wrong.


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I've also backed away from Dieng. To me he's a 20's pick and the bust potential is still high at that point. Not very interested.

[BatManu20]

Exactly. With the 20th pick, sure. At that point he’s worth a swing. But not at 9. Just too risky imo. Need a real difference maker with that first pick and somebody without so many question marks.

[exstatic]

High floor/high ceiling guys go in the first 2-4 picks. After that, you have to either surrender the high ceiling to get a high floor, or accept the low floor for a possible high ceiling.

[Degoat]

I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5

[Mr. Body]

I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5

Definitely possible. I can see Detroit going Duren, Indiana going Sochan before Keegan. Wouldn't be surprised at all. I think OKC is hot to trade up to get Sharpe for some fucking reason, possibly Portland or NOP.

[exstatic]

I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5

You don’t think the Drummond comps might make them shy away?

[The Truth #6]

Duren on Detroit...that would give me some Ben Wallace thoughts. Arguably different players, but I see Duren somewhat like Wallace until proven otherwise.

[Mr. Body]

Duren is most like a baby Dwight Howard to me.

[The Truth #6]

I've been on the Williams bandwagon for a while, and LaRavia is really growing on me. I don't see him being a three in the NBA (just doesn't seem explosive), but he has good ball skills for a PF. While he's always talked about as a defender, most of his highlights are of him scoring. I think he's a sneaky option to fill that defensive perimeter defender with size role that a lot of us have been looking to Eason or Sochan to fill. I don't think he's a shutdown guy, but he's someone who you can platoon on some of the bigger scoring wings (Doncic, Kawhi, Tatum, Giannis) while also being the backbone of a second-unit defense that doesn't currently have a lot of help. Given his shooting, he might be able to be a PJ Tucker with a floor game and should be at worst a more actualized version of KBD.

I wouldn't mind LaRavia at 20 if the Spurs don't get a forward at 9. Something like Mathurin at 9, LaRavia at 20, Alondes Williams at 25 and Koloko at 38 would be interesting. That's a lot of filled hole and with Primo it's a strong summer-league squad (which is the real point of drafting in the first place).

This is worth considering, especially if we don't get a forward at #9. Perhaps wait on Alondes for #38, and I'd be curious about LaRavia at #25, because there might be another player we could get at #20 that would be helpful. I love Alondes' passing but I'm curious how his lack of shooting will limit him. Obviously, he doesn't seem like a starter, but will he be able to make it in the league. But damn, I love his passing.

[The Truth #6]

Duren is most like a baby Dwight Howard to me.

Might be a Derrick Favors. Cue sad trombone.

[exstatic]

Duren on Detroit...that would give me some Ben Wallace thoughts. Arguably different players, but I see Duren somewhat like Wallace until proven otherwise.

As advanced as his physical development is, I don’t ever see Duren being as strong as Wallace, or as much of a monster on the glass. Ben was one of the few players strong enough to stand Shaq straight up in the post. Jalen wouldn’t need to be that strong, though. No Shaqs left in the league.

A better comp would be like a supercharged slightly larger version of RW III. He’s a great shot blocker and rim protector, and moves laterally at an elite level to cover ground on defense.

[exstatic]

Might be a Derrick Favors. Cue sad trombone.

Always a possibility. You can find busts at any pick, including #1 overall. #2 is practically land mined. The risk is part of the mid to late lottery process, but if you don’t take them, you’ll never find a great player.

[BatManu20]

HoopHype mock today has us taking:

9. AJ Griffin
20. Blake Wesley
25. Walker Kessler

[slick'81]

HoopHype mock today has us taking:

9. AJ Griffin
20. Blake Wesley
25. Walker Kessler


is that good? What is the consensus of the guy we want@9

[BatManu20]

I wouldn’t like it as Griffin is arguably my least favorite lottery pick, but that’s just me. And Walker at 25 wouldn’t be terrible. He’d be insurance for Poeltl. But we can do better imo.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Who in their right mind would trade for that Tobias Harris contract. Would have to have a lottery pick attached to it to even consider it.

[The Truth #6]

Chet Holmgren sort of looks like Drew Ewbanks if he was taller and did a lot of meth. Just thought I'd share that.

[Mr. Body]

Who in their right mind would trade for that Tobias Harris contract. Would have to have a lottery pick attached to it to even consider it.

A few years ago this board was as obsessed with getting Tobias Harris as it's obsessed with getting John Collins now. At least Collins is cheaper.

[Chinook]

A few years ago this board was as obsessed with getting Tobias Harris as it's obsessed with getting John Collins now. At least Collins is cheaper.

I mean, I agree with you that the board talked about Harris in 2018 as a trade target in the same way it talked about Collins recently. But I have a feeling you're being dishonest implying that people were obsessed with Harris. The Clippers' package was interesting compared to DeRozan, and the Clippers getting the haul they did for him (and SGA breaking out) made a lot of people feel like that was retroactively the obvious trade. But Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram were by far the bigger discussion points

[Maddog]

A few years ago this board was as obsessed with getting Tobias Harris as it's obsessed with getting John Collins now. At least Collins is cheaper.

I remember that
Collins is cheaper younger and a better player- but still wouldn't trade for him


Wow
After all those years tanking and high picks it looks like they are trying to rebuild to some degree

[Bellboy]

Spurs send Poeltl, Woodard #9

Charlotte sends Kelly Oubre, Kai Jones,#13.#15



Spurs sends McDermott,Langford #20,#25

Indiana sends Myles Turner

[exstatic]

A few years ago this board was as obsessed with getting Tobias Harris as it's obsessed with getting John Collins now. At least Collins is cheaper.

As recently as 2018-2019, Tobias Harris was making $14.2M. He’s now on a contract that will have him making $40M in his age 32 season, two years from now.

Players aren’t good or bad in a vacuum. You have to judge player value against cost.

[Mr. Body]

As recently as 2018-2019, Tobias Harris was making $14.2M. He’s now on a contract that will have him making $40M in his age 32 season, two years from now.

Players aren’t good or bad in a vacuum. You have to judge player value against cost.

He was basically as mediocre as John Collins was back then.

[Degoat]

If Shaedon Sharpe made it to pick 9 it would be temping as hell but scary too. Podcast mentioned how if Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin Jr, and Caleb Houstan never stepped foot on the court this past season they’d be projected to be drafted in the same range as Sharpe right now lol

[Mr. Body]

If Shaedon Sharpe made it to pick 9 it would be temping as hell but scary too. Podcast mentioned how if Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin Jr, and Caleb Houstan never stepped foot on the court this past season they’d be projected to be drafted in the same range as Sharpe right now lol

No fucking way I draft Sharpe. But he does seem to be dropping, possibly. He did competitive stuff in Portland against Sochan and Mathurin and others. Suggesting his handlers are trying to stop a slide. Word is, he wasn't able to separate himself. If he's available at 9, however, I'd be tempted to listen to packages.

[CGD]

If Shaedon Sharpe made it to pick 9 it would be temping as hell but scary too. Podcast mentioned how if Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin Jr, and Caleb Houstan never stepped foot on the court this past season they’d be projected to be drafted in the same range as Sharpe right now lol

Yeah if sharpe is there at 9, I’m calling WAS about 10 + Deni. They seem like a team that would be all over Sharpe.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1537194319198797824

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1537201963980423168
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1537202886438002689

Tyty Washington and Marjon Beauchamp also in the Green Room

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1537194319198797824

Peyton Watson is among those players like Josh Minott or Patrick Baldwin where you wonder why they're here. They had terrible college seasons and are far away from contributing professionally, if ever. I wonder if this is common, but it feels like there are way more of these players than usual. Guys who just, frankly, sucked.

[Robz4000]

I've been on the Williams bandwagon for a while, and LaRavia is really growing on me. I don't see him being a three in the NBA (just doesn't seem explosive), but he has good ball skills for a PF. While he's always talked about as a defender, most of his highlights are of him scoring. I think he's a sneaky option to fill that defensive perimeter defender with size role that a lot of us have been looking to Eason or Sochan to fill. I don't think he's a shutdown guy, but he's someone who you can platoon on some of the bigger scoring wings (Doncic, Kawhi, Tatum, Giannis) while also being the backbone of a second-unit defense that doesn't currently have a lot of help. Given his shooting, he might be able to be a PJ Tucker with a floor game and should be at worst a more actualized version of KBD.

I wouldn't mind LaRavia at 20 if the Spurs don't get a forward at 9. Something like Mathurin at 9, LaRavia at 20, Alondes Williams at 25 and Koloko at 38 would be interesting. That's a lot of filled hole and with Primo it's a strong summer-league squad (which is the real point of drafting in the first place).

So what you're saying is we getting that second Summer League banner? :hungry:

[Degoat]

Lot of guys getting green room invites

[PhantomDashCam]

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Sacramento should just change their logo to a giant Xanax. Those poor fans...

[John B]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1537201963980423168
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1537202886438002689

Tyty Washington also in the Green Room

Yup these guys are moving out of our 20-25 range. I rather Spurs consolidate and trade up and get two solid lottery picks by the end of the day.

[duncan2150]

Yup these guys are moving out of our 20-25 range. I rather Spurs consolidate and trade up and get two solid lottery picks by the end of the day.

I think that's the best for the spurs if they can move up by packaging picks but at 20 they will find at least one or two of the green room invites. It could be Eason.

[mo7888]

Yup these guys are moving out of our 20-25 range. I rather Spurs consolidate and trade up and get two solid lottery picks by the end of the day.

If they are moving up that means a couple players are dropping...it's an argument for staying put.

[exstatic]

More green room players than lottery slots is pretty normal. The early lottery can cause radical changes to the late lottery, as teams with different needs partner to trade in or out if their player is gone.

[tonight...you]

More green room players than lottery slots is pretty normal. The early lottery can cause radical changes to the late lottery, as teams with different needs partner to trade in or out if their player is gone.
And it's always good TV to watch the snubbed players squirm until they actually are picked.
Like Aaron Rodgers.

[CGD]

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Good luck with that Philly…

[CGD]

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Sacramento should just change their logo to a giant Xanax. Those poor fans...

Poor Keegan, that like the career kiss of death right threre.

[slick'81]

Good luck with that Philly…


poor danny green

[BatManu20]

Christian Wood to Dallas.


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[BatManu20]

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[CGD]

Christian Wood to Dallas.


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Nice pick up. Better yet I don’t have to read posters saying a spurs should go get him

[exstatic]

Christian Wood to Dallas.


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Are they just flat out collecting assholes for their locker room?

[Mr. Body]

Good luck Mavs. Woods is a headcase. I can't imagine him getting along with Luka at all.

[Mr. Body]

Mavs' pick was possibly Kessler or Kamagate, that sort. Not sure what Houston can do with yet another pick. Guess they saw Woods' value dwindling even more. They need wing help and a point. They can maybe find Chandler or the Gonzaga guard there. Or Kendall Brown.

[rankingtear]

Beauchamp got an invite hope he falls to 20.

[mo7888]

Mavs' pick was possibly Kessler or Kamagate, that sort. Not sure what Houston can do with yet another pick. Guess they saw Woods' value dwindling even more. They need wing help and a point. They can maybe find Chandler or the Gonzaga guard there. Or Kendall Brown.

Brown makes sense for them...trading it for a 2024 1st makes sense too since they don't own their own..

[rascal]

No fucking way I draft Sharpe. But he does seem to be dropping, possibly. He did competitive stuff in Portland against Sochan and Mathurin and others. Suggesting his handlers are trying to stop a slide. Word is, he wasn't able to separate himself. If he's available at 9, however, I'd be tempted to listen to packages.

This is probably the only fanbase who is so conservative they don't want Sharpe.

I'm watching and reading other teams sites and they all want Sharpe.

[Mr. Body]

This is probably the only fanbase who is so conservative they don't want Sharpe.

I'm watching and reading other teams sites and they all want Sharpe.

That's because casual fans are idiots.

[tonight...you]

Christian Wood to Dallas.


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Have fun with him Dallas!
I'm sure it will be great.

[BatManu20]

Mavs' pick was possibly Kessler or Kamagate, that sort. Not sure what Houston can do with yet another pick. Guess they saw Woods' value dwindling even more. They need wing help and a point. They can maybe find Chandler or the Gonzaga guard there. Or Kendall Brown.

They’ll try to package 17 & 26 and move up imo. Don’t think it’d work though.

[rascal]

That's because casual fans are idiots.

They aren't all casual fans and you're not any better than anyone else.

Front offices don't even know what they are doing all the time and make mistakes.

[Mr. Body]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47fZ72Mg2Q

Not much chatter about TyTy Washington. Makes sense - we're glutted with guards. But the team has had him in and down low there's a lot to like about his game.

[John B]

They’ll try to package 17 & 26 and move up imo. Don’t think it’d work though.

That’s what I’m thinking. Maybe one of the centers Duren or Mark Williams?

[Bellboy]

Spurs Capitulate

Pop takes one for the team

In the 2023 Race for Victor Wembanyama

Max future roster flexibility



ESPN Trade Machine

Charlotte. Poeltl, McDermott, Langford. Charlotte Plus 8 Wins

Spurs Hayward, Kai Jones # 13 #15. SA Minus 9 Wins


Rookie Contracts

#9


$3,836,000
$4,028,000
$4,219,700
27.4%



#13

13
$3,124,500
$3,280,800
$3,437,000
42.9%



#15

15
$2,819,700
$2,960,700
$3,101,700
53.3%



#20,

$2,216,400
$2,327,200
$2,437,800
54.2%


#25

$1,807,200
$1,897,500
$1,988,100
80.1%



#38




2023 Roster

Center Collins,Londale,
PF Johnson, Kai Jones
SF Hayward,Bates-Diop
PG Murray, Tre Jones
SG Vassel, Primo,Richardson

[Ocotillo]

That's a lot of roster spots Dallas opened up.

[Dejounte]

The Rockets gave up the 16th for Wood and traded Wood for the 26th pick

[Mr. Body]

The Rockets gave up the 16th for Wood and traded Wood for the 26th pick

Everyone's suffering from inflation.

[mo7888]

Everyone's suffering from inflation.

:lol

[CGD]

Mavs' pick was possibly Kessler or Kamagate, that sort. Not sure what Houston can do with yet another pick. Guess they saw Woods' value dwindling even more. They need wing help and a point. They can maybe find Chandler or the Gonzaga guard there. Or Kendall Brown.

Yes, i think they felt themselves extremely lucky to be able to extract ANY first rounder for him.

[BatManu20]

Dallas is gonna be disappointed when they realize what a poor defender he is. He’ll help with the scoring load though.

[pad300]

Just to put a marker down, the international withdrawals are done, and this article has the final early entry list, including 14 internationals...

https://www.nba.com/news/24-early-entry-candidates-withdraw-from-nba-draft-2022

There are several international prospects that aren't being talked about much, but have stayed in... Which suggest they have had positive feeback about their chances from NBA teams. Two that might be of particular interest:
Ziga Samar (Spain) 6'6" Point
Gui Santos (Brazil) 6'8" Wing

There are also internationals who are not early entries, some of whom might be of interest, eg. Yoan Makoundou

[BatManu20]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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[mo7888]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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That's interesting...not related to DJ but, I wonder what they'd want for KP? They didn't give up much to get him...

[td4mvp2k]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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i wouldnt say no to the 10 and extra picks but daniels would have to fall to 9

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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What would you like to get in such a trade?

[dbestpro]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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They have offered Harrell straight up and Pop is thinking about it.

[John B]

Wizards want Dejounte :lol


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I love the prospect of getting Davis and Sochan on this draft at 9 and 10. But at what expense? I think Davis can facilitate enough in the Spurs system, and imo would eventually pass DJ and possibly a better “head of the snake,” both ultra-competitive, but Davis has a more complete game. But 10th pick and multiple future FRP’s perhaps? I’d strongly consider that thought.

[JPB]

Some of you guys would trade your family for picks that you would trade 4-5 years later for picks...

[John B]

Some of you guys would trade your family for picks that you would trade 4-5 years later for picks...

I love DJ’s hard work. But face it, he’s a borderline All-Star. I’m rooting for the guy, don’t get me wrong. And Spurs would probably not trade him because of their nobility. But to me, I don’t see anybody on this team as untouchable, not if it draws a good return that would get the team back to contention. And to pair an ultra-competitive leader like Davis (with higher ceiling than Murray imo) and a defensive catalyst like Sochan? I’d give that a hard thought.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Some of you guys would trade your family for picks that you would trade 4-5 years later for picks...
Murray resembles a less athletic Westbrook. Dejounte, with all due respect to his work ethic and progress, is not that bad... he just can't play without the ball and can't really play with the ball as the first option. He simply does not show the level of the first star and at the same time can't be the second option due to his style.

[CGD]

It'd have to be SOME package to move DJ, especially because of what he represents to the team outside of basketball. But that would be the fastest way to get in on the Wembanyama sweepstakes.

[Mr. Body]

More news coming in that Sharpe may be tumbling a bit, maybe out of the top 10. His workouts aren't going well and teams are getting shy about wasting a pick on a potential bust or someone completely raw. If he tumbles, of course this means someone else gets taken before the Spurs.

[rjv]

More news coming in that Sharpe may be tumbling a bit, maybe out of the top 10. His workouts aren't going well and teams are getting shy about wasting a pick on a potential bust or someone completely raw. If he tumbles, of course this means someone else gets taken before the Spurs.

as with every draft, there will be that player who drops unexpectedly and that other player who gets picked way ahead of where they were projected. sharpe is certainly a candidate for the former more so than the latter.

[John B]

More news coming in that Sharpe may be tumbling a bit, maybe out of the top 10. His workouts aren't going well and teams are getting shy about wasting a pick on a potential bust or someone completely raw. If he tumbles, of course this means someone else gets taken before the Spurs.

That’s not good news for me :lol. I don’t want teams looking for a guard drafting Davis ahead of Sharpe. They can draft Dyson. He’s a better prospect wink wink. (Dyson to me is redundant especially if Devin takes the leap, plus there’s also Primo).

[mo7888]

That’s not good news for me :lol. I don’t want teams looking for a guard drafting Davis ahead of Sharpe. They can draft Dyson. He’s a better prospect wink wink. (Dyson to me is redundant especially if Devin takes the leap, plus there’s also Primo).

Good news for me though...I'd love for Davis to go before we pick..

[exstatic]

They have offered Harrell straight up and Pop is thinking about it.

A) Harrell was bought out and finished the season with CHA.
B) He’s now in jail in KY for riding dirty with THREE POUNDS of dope.

[rjv]

Some of you guys would trade your family for picks that you would trade 4-5 years later for picks...

i hope some of these ST trade lovers aren't stock brokers.

[exstatic]

What would you like to get in such a trade?

There is literally no one on their roster that I want for #10, and that includes Beal.

[John B]

Good news for me though...I'd love for Davis to go before we pick..

To each his own :bobo

[exstatic]

i hope some of these ST trade lovers aren't stock brokers.

…or poker players.

[CGD]

Good news for me though...I'd love for Davis to go before we pick..

Are you a Sharpe guy, or have someone else in mind for 9 (e.g., Duren)?

[John B]

…or poker players.

Hey if you don’t have the cards, all in :lol

I like the Spurs “doing-the-right-thing-for-the-players” and all that. They could afford to do that with DRob and the Big 3. But they are closing in on unchartered territory of more than 3 years of losing record. And sometimes you have to choke to start. The Derrick White trade was uncharacteristic, but brought a great return. G-Hill brought Kawhi, Demar and Co plus more. It takes some of those “gutsy” to start a cold engine. And that includes moving DJ for the right return.

[Mr. Body]

Part of the Sharpe chatter -- OKC seems very big on him, had him in for a workout -- are looking to trade up with Luguenz Dort and the 12 to Portland's 7.

So the effect on the Spurs is negligible, as he goes before them anyway. But one suitor for Keegan Murray -- if that's anyone's desire -- goes away, since the Blazers might have taken him there.

[mo7888]

Are you a Sharpe guy, or have someone else in mind for 9 (e.g., Duren)?

I don't really have a specific target at 9 since there are so many different ways that we can go that make sense. As for Sharpe/ Duren, I have them both in my 2nd tier so either would be fine with me. If forced to choose I'd go Duren though because it gives us more options with Poeltl.

[SAGirl]

It's kind of funny to read so many positive scouting reports on Dieng and then run into this one, by someone who doesn't like him at all: https://deanondraft.com//?s=dieng&search=Go

I generally like this guy's takes. At the very least, he's very interesting even when I don't agree. He's the opposite of Mike Schmitz, who I also like, in that he's not trying to make friends with anyone. :lol

Some excerpts:

Dieng burst onto prospect radar in 2019, playing for France’s u16 team that won the silver medal. In 22 minutes he averaged 8.9 pts 2.7 rebounds 3.6 assists, showing an intriguing intersection of passing and shooting for a 6’9 wing but also shooting just 33% from the field.
Most recently he has played for the New Zealand Breakers, by far the worst team in the Australian NBL who went 5-23 with -8.7 point differential.
After a dreadful start to the season, he finished strong. He finished the year averaging 20.8 minutes, 8.9 points, 3.1 rebs, 1 ast, 1.4 tovs, 0.6 stls, and 0.3 blks with 47.9% TS and a paltry 10.7 PER. His biggest appeal is his shooting, or at least his belief that he can shoot as he attempted 4.2 3’s per game and made 27.1%.
Over the past 3 seasons from ages 16 thru 18 he has shot 138/462 (29.9%) from 3 and 88/112 (78.6%) FT. So he’s not exactly a good shooter at this point, but in time he could develop into one for his size.
And whoever drafts him better hope that he does, because there is not much to like outside of that. He does not have much shake or burst, and struggles to beat anybody off the dribble. And in spite of his size, he is not much of a defensive playmaker with mediocre rebound, steal, and block numbers.
I like dean too, mostly because he tells it to you like it is, and he tends to be very critical, which just gives me a different perspective, because Smichdtz and others like you said, also want to pump up the draftees, and give you an image of their best possible outcomes, and then give you some weaknesses but they always tend to be presented in the light of things that will need to be improved, which is fair. But I find that close to the draft a lot of potentials are just incredibly overhyped, and dean just doesnt do that. Hes the anti-establishment. Like you, even when I don’t agree, I just appreciate a different perspective.

[Leetonidas]

Spurs worked out Sharpe. Kinda surprised since everyone thinks he is the anti Spur

[Mr. Body]

Spurs worked out Sharpe. Kinda surprised since everyone thinks he is the anti Spur

Why wouldn't they?

[emanueldavidginobili]

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Some notables

10-Josh Minott
11-Blake Wesley
23-Jalen Williams
24-Ousmane Dieng
29-Johnny Davis
70-Alondes Williams

[exstatic]

Dean on Draft sez…

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[exstatic]

Hey if you don’t have the cards, all in :lol

I like the Spurs “doing-the-right-thing-for-the-players” and all that. They could afford to do that with DRob and the Big 3. But they are closing in on unchartered territory of more than 3 years of losing record. And sometimes you have to choke to start. The Derrick White trade was uncharacteristic, but brought a great return. G-Hill brought Kawhi, Demar and Co plus more. It takes some of those “gutsy” to start a cold engine. And that includes moving DJ for the right return.

I don’t have a problem, in a vacuum, with moving DJ for the right return. Washington doesn’t have it, though. Their best piece, Beal, is paid a hefty salary, can no longer be considered young, and allegedly suffered nerve damage in one leg that drastically affected his shot last year. Hard pass on the Wiz.

[Mr. Body]

Dean on Draft sez…

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Caleb Houstan confirmed.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/MXco6l7WXlE


What pick do you consider to be the first major inflection point for unpredictability in the draft?
We currently have Chet Holmgren at No. 2, but I'm not overly confident that's how it will actually unfold. For starters, will Oklahoma City even stay put at this pick? Sam Presti is known to be a wheeler and dealer. Could the Thunder take Paolo Banchero or even Jaden Ivey? I also heard Holmgren has not provided his medical information to teams (at least most of them), and did not do the NBA's heart screening. That could suggest that his agents are trying to manipulate the draft and direct Holmgren to a specific spot, which is probably the most likely scenario. I don't know which team that would be though.


Batum 2.0. You know the Kings are one of those teams that they’re trying to steer away from :lol


What has Jeremy Sochan (https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/jeremy-sochan-a-citizen-of-the-world-sets-his-course-for-the-nba) continuing to rise up your mock draft to No. 9?
The San Antonio Spurs have a lot of young pieces on the perimeter, but I think they need to address their frontcourt. I've heard they do have interest in Sochan. I also heard earlier today that the Spurs could be a team on the hunt to move up, with Keegan Murray being their likely target.

[John B]

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Some notables

10-Josh Minott
11-Blake Wesley
23-Jalen Williams
24-Ousmane Dieng
29-Johnny Davis
70-Alondes Williams

I can’t open without the freakin offer keeps making me sign :depressed

[Mr. Body]

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Some notables

10-Josh Minott
11-Blake Wesley
23-Jalen Williams
24-Ousmane Dieng
29-Johnny Davis
70-Alondes Williams

Wait, Josh Minott as the #10 pick? That's completely stupid.

[Degoat]

Ej Liddell and AJ Griffin worked out with the spurs today

[emanueldavidginobili]

I can’t open without the freakin offer keeps making me sign :depressed
Use your phone and open the link and then click the AA and click show reader and you'll be able to read it for free.

[The Truth #6]

Wait, Josh Minott as the #10 pick? That's completely stupid.

Sounds like if the Spurs want him they’ll have to grab him at 9!

[BatManu20]

One of my pet cats in this draft. Might be available at 20, might not. He’s also a PF and not a C.

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[Mr. Body]

It occurs to me having draft picks throughout the first round and beginning of the second must be exhausting. The Spurs' travel, lodging and catering team must be working overtime.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[BatManu20]

Don’t do it PATFO.

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[CGD]

Ej Liddell and AJ Griffin worked out with the spurs today

You absolutely take Griffin if he is there at 20. His slide has been wild, albeit not unjustified. But at 20? No brainer.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[TD 21]

If true, it's difficult to envision a path to Murray, but just for the sake of it, it'd probably be: Ivey goes 4 to Kings/whoever trades up, Murray goes 5 to Pistons, with them being torn on him and Sharpe, who falls to 9. Even then, 9 and Poeltl is too much and 9, 20 and Richardson is probably too little.

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