De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[Ice009]

Man, the Spurs had a little bit of the spotlight and momentum to make a big trade, then this shit happens.

What a stupid, stupid trade for Dallas. Absolutely terrible trade. I don't know if it's collusion or complete corruption within the league to make the Lakers great again and boost the ratings, but I am sorry Dallas fans (I feel bad for you guys), I hope it backfires badly, and they win nothing and the Mavs front office are all fired over this. Obviously, it also goes without saying, hope it also completely backfires for the Lakers too. F both teams and the executives behind this trade. If it is collusion, I hope the ball doesn't lie, and that it all comes undone for both these teams and they are completely exposed.

[jermaine]

timvp passed away?

Whhhhhat??? When, How?

[SpursGenius]

The Mav trades helps spurs. We pretty much don’t have to give up any frp now. The market is set. Keldon Collins Tre and expiring frp from charlotte for fox.

[DPG21920]

I did not say that picks are not valuable, I said they are not the only currency.

Having all the picks in the world still didn't even give you an opportunity to sniff a Luka trade, for example. Some teams don't want picks. To truly be able to be able to capitalize on any opportunity, the Spurs should look to have a blend of picks, quality players, and promising young players. Then you'll truly have the flexibility to do anything in regards to trades. Cap space and picks only opens up a certain range of possibilities.

In that regard (like say you wanted to go after Ant), having someone like Fox could be quite helpful.

Sure. It’s not either or. Im saying picks have dominated most trade packages though in terms of weighted value. But ya, Fox can be used in a trade but again it comes down to what SA has to give up. Give up too much and juice isn’t worth squeeze. Theres no magic formula its very hard being a real GM im sure lol

But bigger thing dating back to my original thoughts was there’s ZERO rush for guys like Fox IMO for teams like SA. That doesnt mean no or never or that its not a good idea to try, but theres always fringe all star types at a minimum via draft, FA or trade and theres always (lower percentage but still some) bigger fish that “unexpectedly” turn up too.

[SpursGenius]

Kings get:
Jimmy Butler
Jeremy Sochan
SAS 2025 1RP
SAS 2027 1RP (via ATL)

Spurs get:
De’Aaron Fox
Chris Boucher
Trey Lyles

Heat get:
Jakob Poeltl
Chris Paul
Kevin Huerter
SAS 2027 1RP swap

Raptors get:
Devin Vassell
Jaime Jaquez Jr.
We are not financing other teams trades with our frps lol dumbass

[SupremeGuy]

timvp passed away?I think it's a running joke...

[SupremeGuy]

The Mav trades helps spurs. We pretty much don’t have to give up any frp now. The market is set. Keldon Collins Tre and expiring frp from charlotte for fox.Except we don't have the pull like the lakers.

[scott]

Sure. It’s not either or. Im saying picks have dominated most trade packages though in terms of weighted value. But ya, Fox can be used in a trade but again it comes down to what SA has to give up. Give up too much and juice isn’t worth squeeze. Theres no magic formula its very hard being a real GM im sure lol

But bigger thing dating back to my original thoughts was there’s ZERO rush for guys like Fox IMO for teams like SA. That doesnt mean no or never or that its not a good idea to try, but theres always fringe all star types at a minimum via draft, FA or trade and theres always (lower percentage but still some) bigger fish that “unexpectedly” turn up too.

Well, there is one rush in that up to half of your excess draft picks could be expiring this summer. So a decision needs to be made on trading those for a player, using them for a player, or punting them down the road. If you wait too long, you may be stuck with suboptimal outcomes.

There is also a lesson here about the relative value of draft picks. There is a reason why it takes so many of them to land guys like KD, Mitchell, Bridges, Gobert, etc... it's because they aren't worth as much as quality players.

[Dverde]

https://www.pipsticks.com/cdn/shop/products/20221219135838_56432500.jpg?v=1671674130

Power of friendship proved useful for Rob Pelinka :lol

[lefty]

https://x.com/mattlerma_ps/status/1885940771355832710

[DPG21920]

Well, there is one rush in that up to half of your excess draft picks could be expiring this summer. So a decision needs to be made on trading those for a player, using them for a player, or punting them down the road. If you wait too long, you may be stuck with suboptimal outcomes.

There is also a lesson here about the relative value of draft picks. There is a reason why it takes so many of them to land guys like KD, Mitchell, Bridges, Gobert, etc... it's because they aren't worth as much as quality players.

Sure but that’s mostly a function of people trading for stars want to win now and pair them with win now players…..But the time is coming for SA next two seasons to ramp things up, but I still don’t think that means “you have to rush” either. But we are mostly in agreement I think overall

[scott]

Sure but that’s mostly a function of people trading for stars want to win now and pair them with win now players…..But the time is coming for SA next two seasons to ramp things up, but I still don’t think that means “you have to rush” either. But we are mostly in agreement I think overall

Yes, I think we're in agreement... just having a good discussion :)

What I mean by "there is a rush" in that some decisions will have to be made by June 25 when the draft takes place. We can make that decision now, based on the information we have available, or we get roll the dice and see what happens. If we do that, the results may be favorable (wow, we just landed Cooper Flagg!), or we may regret not trading the picks earlier (dang, we ended up with picks 9, 10 and 11 and tbh we don't really like most of these guys and the trade offers aren't that great). It's obviously impossible to know now where that value will land, but we can make some good estimates of Expected Value based on odds.

No matter what happens, we'll have to make a decision. Between now and then we'll have to trade those picks or make those picks, and after that date we will have either 25% or 50% (I no longer count the CHA pick) fewer excess first round draft picks in our war chest unless we trade them for future picks down the road (which is always an option).

I don't think we have the luxury of waiting as much as we think, unless our FO has decided that using picks or trading them down the road for future picks is what they actually prefer to do, which is entirely possible. But, if the picks were acquired with the thought of using as trade chips for another star player... we are on the clock.

[Mnky]

And it cracks me up how you people who don't follow shit around the league now think you're smartasses because an unprecedented outlier happened.

"Follow"

Bro you're reading tweets all day. You're not in the "know." You're just guessing like everyone else but truly believe you're on the "in" more than others.

You're just a fan.

[LeBowen]

Bro you're reading tweets all day.

Believe it or not, never had a twitter account.


You're not in the "know."

Who said I was?


You're just guessing like everyone else but truly believe you're on the "in" more than others.

I'm not guessing, I'm try to make logical conclusions based on what's going around the league.
I don't read twitter all day, I watch games every single night I'm at home. Not just the Spurs.
And if you actually watch games, you see how's team chemistry everywhere etc.

You're making your entire argument based on an outlier that happens once every few decades.

[DPG21920]

Yes, I think we're in agreement... just having a good discussion :)

What I mean by "there is a rush" in that some decisions will have to be made by June 25 when the draft takes place. We can make that decision now, based on the information we have available, or we get roll the dice and see what happens. If we do that, the results may be favorable (wow, we just landed Cooper Flagg!), or we may regret not trading the picks earlier (dang, we ended up with picks 9, 10 and 11 and tbh we don't really like most of these guys and the trade offers aren't that great). It's obviously impossible to know now where that value will land, but we can make some good estimates of Expected Value based on odds.

No matter what happens, we'll have to make a decision. Between now and then we'll have to trade those picks or make those picks, and after that date we will have either 25% or 50% (I no longer count the CHA pick) fewer excess first round draft picks in our war chest unless we trade them for future picks down the road (which is always an option).

I don't think we have the luxury of waiting as much as we think, unless our FO has decided that using picks or trading them down the road for future picks is what they actually prefer to do, which is entirely possible. But, if the picks were acquired with the thought of using as trade chips for another star player... we are on the clock.

Sure theres some of that to be sure - but even if we land 8,9 and 11 one of those guys can be an all star too. And SA would still have tons of picks to use next year etc..But ya, I was ever anti Fox as a catch all - plenty of reasons to go for it now. Would love to see it happen and will react based on the package I see. 2.5 firsts and no Castle and Im good with it

[DPG21920]

This did Spurs a massive favor though. Weakens divisional opponent at same time Wemby should be entire core prime while helping the pick swap gain some value on paper. Spurs have a lot of work to do, but Lakers have been mostly incompetent and Mavs had already built a contender with Luka so anytime you can break one up and weaken a divisional opponent its good news.

[KingKev]

All of these timvp is dead rumours has me thinking maybe one of us could masquerade as a “Spurs insider” and claim Wemby wants out if we don’t get him some help soon? Could push PATFO to actually go to work.

[ChumpDumper]

timvp passed away?

No.

[scott]

Sure theres some of that to be sure - but even if we land 8,9 and 11 one of those guys can be an all star too. And SA would still have tons of picks to use next year etc..But ya, I was ever anti Fox as a catch all - plenty of reasons to go for it now. Would love to see it happen and will react based on the package I see. 2.5 firsts and no Castle and Im good with it

Yep, one of those guys could be an all-star. Or they could be complete busts. That's true of any pick of course. That's just a part of the risk and uncertainty. LIke you mentioned early, being a GM is hard - in large part because you have to make these monumental bets on outcomes that are outside of your control and no one has the ability to predict with any degree of certainty. That's kind of what makes sports fun though, right?

[scott]

All of these timvp is dead rumours has me thinking maybe one of us could masquerade as a “Spurs insider” and claim Wemby wants out if we don’t get him some help soon? Could push PATFO to actually go to work.

It's helping Dusty Garza get massive engagement on Twitter. Casual Spurs fans are easy to bait. Just get an AI avatar, recycle "inside info" you hear from others to build a reputation, and then you can say shit like "Fan favorite Keldon Johnson is rumored to be on the block" and you'll generate massive amounts of clicks.

So easy, even a con like Dusty can do it.

[NASpurs]

The true puppet master. This guy looks trustworthy.

https://www.stage32.com/sites/stage32.com/files/imagecache/head_shot_500/headshots/c96fa508a7df34292fbde031eebc18bc_1584814912_l.jpg

[DPG21920]

Yep, one of those guys could be an all-star. Or they could be complete busts. That's true of any pick of course. That's just a part of the risk and uncertainty. LIke you mentioned early, being a GM is hard - in large part because you have to make these monumental bets on outcomes that are outside of your control and no one has the ability to predict with any degree of certainty. That's kind of what makes sports fun though, right?

Exactly :lol

I mean we know when GMS do something stupid. It’s much harder to tell when they do something good.

[scott]

Exactly :lol

I mean we know when GMS do something stupid. It’s much harder to tell when they do something good.

Nico Harrison reading this wondering which camps he's in :lol

[KingKev]

One thing I will support in this whole Luka/AD situation is both parties actually operated like men and didn’t pillow talk with the media till this trade went down. That never happens these days.

[LeBowen]

One thing I will support in this whole Luka/AD situation is both parties actually operated like men and didn’t pillow talk with the media till this trade went down. That never happens these days.

They didn't talk with the media because they didn't know shit until it happened. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

One thing I will support in this whole Luka/AD situation is both parties actually operated like men and didn’t pillow talk with the media till this trade went down. That never happens these days.

they probably fuckin tbh

[KingKev]

They didn't talk with the media because they didn't know shit until it happened. :lol

Both GM’s and ownership had very closed door and quiet conversations

[scott]

When does the Spurs flight to MEM leave? Would like to see a trade done before then, tbh

[Mnky]

Believe it or not, never had a twitter account.



Who said I was?



I'm not guessing, I'm try to make logical conclusions based on what's going around the league.
I don't read twitter all day, I watch games every single night I'm at home. Not just the Spurs.
And if you actually watch games, you see how's team chemistry everywhere etc.

You're making your entire argument based on an outlier that happens once every few decades.

A star was traded. A star leaves a team. Literally happens every season. Media is blowing this up.

Lukas not staying in shape has been as bad as Zion, they just don't report the same. Lukas defense in the finals was likely the worse of all time for a superstar. Luke had a 350 super max coming up.

The supermax has caused teams to move stars. There was a reason teams were focused on the 2026 FA. Every year, there's something new we never thought would happen. That's normal. It's not an outlier.

[Degoat]

Was reading the SAC fan forum, and all the talk is Spurs/Fox from them. Usually fan bases are coming out of nowhere with crazy hypothetical trades. They seem gun set on Castle being involved and if he isn’t there gonna lose their minds lol

[Dejounte]

When does the Spurs flight to MEM leave? Would like to see a trade done before then, tbh

Dread befalls me. I’m getting the sense now that nothing gets done. I’m going to take a shower and maybe this feeling goes away.

[DPG21920]

Out of my a** odds:

20-25% chance SA gets Fox here at deadline

50% chance they get him in Summer

If he somehow doesnt get traded at all by Kings and gets to FA hes a Spur

[LeBowen]

https://i.imgur.com/5G6NhTB.png

2.4ppg and 2.2apg extra in exchange for way worse defense (not just in counting stats)?
Fox > Luka, tbh.

[CGD]

Was reading the SAC fan forum, and all the talk is Spurs/Fox from them. Usually fan bases are coming out of nowhere with crazy hypothetical trades. They seem gun set on Castle being involved and if he isn’t there gonna lose their minds lol

Good thing that fanbase has practiced losing their minds for decades now.

[LeBowen]

Source: https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article299586284.html

The mood in the room was somber and sullen following a 144-110 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. One by one, players slowly shuffled toward the door, wondering what was to come with Thursday’s NBA trade deadline fast approaching.
Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article299586284.html#storylink=cpy

Fox held his 6-month-old daughter, Poppy, in his arms as he got ready to leave the locker room late Saturday night. He talked about his 2-year-old son, Reign, admitting he had changed his mind about encouraging the boy to play tennis instead of basketball when he gets older.
Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article299586284.html#storylink=cpy

Fox took his time in saying what felt like a long goodbye. He thanked locker room attendants, expressed appreciation for Kings staffers and then walked out the door, his destination unknown as the team headed to Minnesota. One thing was clear. If this is the end for Fox after almost eight seasons in Sacramento, he will be missed.

[scott]

Dread befalls me. I’m getting the sense now that nothing gets done. I’m going to take a shower and maybe this feeling goes away.

It wouldn't surprise me if the FO decided to collectively put a hold on anything to "evaluate the new realities of the NBA" or some shit like that.

Honestly, I wouldn't be totally mad if we waited until the summer. I prefer now because it would be more entertaining for me in the short run, but there is a case to be made for waiting.

Waiting may also result in us completely missing the boat, so there is risk that way too.

Still hoping Recee Fox is coming home and bring De'Aaron with her.

[scott]

Sad Keldon for Grateful De'Aaron. Let's go.

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/spursreporter/status/1886162063799509412?s=46

[Extra Stout]

With what that guy said, the Kings and Spurs could have talked, but ended it once the Spurs made clear Castle was off the table, and the “reporting” still would be correct. If what the Modesto Grifter had said were true, the deal already would have been announced. He’s just stringing it out for clicks.

[barakz21]

https://x.com/spursreporter/status/1886162063799509412?s=46

So basically, nothing on when he said “very close to being completed if not already done”? Way video goes, sounds like they’re still discussing a POTENTIAL deal.

edit: nobody should “stay tuned” if there’s no deal. Especially if no deal happens and ole boy was just generating clicks imo

[thiste]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969

[CorrectCrusader]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969

This just keeps getting better and better. Bye bye pop! Enjoy retirement!

[lefty20]

Ain't no way that's real, tbh.

[NASpurs]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969

Done and done, where do I sign

[TD 21]

The Doncic fiasco is a cautionary tale that the Spurs would be wise to heed. Not comparing Doncic's lifestyle/personality to Wembanyama's, but in general there's too many variables and volatility nowadays to be overly consumed with the long term.

That's not to be confused with being reckless, but they need to think more so medium term or in increments.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969
Can we throw in Mitch as well? Two birds one stone etc etc

[Raven]

at this point i demand fox for malaki and a second rounder

[benefactor]

The Doncic fiasco is a cautionary tale that the Spurs would be wise to heed. Not comparing Doncic's lifestyle/personality to Wembanyama's, but in general there's too many variables and volatility nowadays to be overly consumed with the long term.

That's not to be confused with being reckless, but they need to think more so medium term or in increments.
:lol....what?

I'm glad during your time off you didn't forget how to say something while saying absolutely nothing

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/ohnohedidnt24/status/1886188604507979950

[spurraider21]

Time to bring this one home

1886195094010880270

[spurraider21]

Yesterday George had said talks were kind of at a standstill and more time passing meant deal less likely. Very different tune now

[TekXX]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969

Could you imagine, i would be happy as fuck

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/MattGeorgeSAC/status/1886197820522459344

[100%duncan]

Not insinuating that Fox>AD but this kind of deal brings a point someone here brought up that getting Fox doesn't necessarily mean you mortgage you're entire future. It also means, aside from a chance to win, a very valuable trade piece in the future.

Still though, this deal doesn't make any fucking sense.

[Dex]

https://x.com/MattGeorgeSAC/status/1886197820522459344

"This will continue until either the deadline or a deal gets done."

Well no shit, Sherlock.

[SpursGenius]

Well, there is one rush in that up to half of your excess draft picks could be expiring this summer. So a decision needs to be made on trading those for a player, using them for a player, or punting them down the road. If you wait too long, you may be stuck with suboptimal outcomes.

There is also a lesson here about the relative value of draft picks. There is a reason why it takes so many of them to land guys like KD, Mitchell, Bridges, Gobert, etc... it's because they aren't worth as much as quality players.
Unless its the second best player in nba, then you only give up one frp

[SpursGenius]

Could you imagine, i would be happy as fuck
would be great we can sub senile fool for a frp

[TekXX]

Are the Spurs going to be self-conscious about dolling out more than 1 first round pick now that the Mavs FO got totally fleeced. Suddenly it's an over pay

[Ice009]

Are the Spurs going to be self-conscious about dolling out more than 1 first round pick now that the Mavs FO got totally fleeced. Suddenly it's an over pay

Well, the Spurs aren't giving up a player of Anthony Davis' caliber, so I'd expect they have to give up at least two FRP, but then Fox also isn't Doncic caliber, so I don't know.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/damienbarling/status/1886208581802004943

[dn0774]

I wouldn't expect the Doncic deal to set the market in any meaningful way; that was a one off trade scenario between friends/former colleagues at Nike. Similar to how most don't expect the Mikal Bridges trade to set the market either as that was mostly about realizing the Knicks dream of a Villanova lineup (not to mention those 5 firsts are expected to be low value).

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/MattGeorgeSAC/status/1886209173345505368

[palangi]

:lmao

https://x.com/KingCharge/status/1885809117476032969

this is probably a dream come true for Pop. He can go retire in his liberal Capitol. Next to Newsome and Nancy Palosi.

just think he won’t have to waste time looking for a bathroom. He can shit where ever he wants. The liberal way.

[CorrectCrusader]

"Here we go"

SHAMS BOMB : "Zach Collins traded for patty mills"

[Leetonidas]

Someone get the it's happening gif ready

[100%duncan]

Pls we need some good news

[Cardinal]

Barling has appeared to be the most plugged in with the Fox situation. I expect we’ll hear something soon

[benefactor]

Oh hell

[100%duncan]

Kings insiders are edging us rn

[objective]

No whammies no whammies no whammies

Ahh shit it's Sochan and Zollins still on the team

[CorrectCrusader]

https://x.com/KingKC_916/status/1886211818609340453

[dubross]

https://x.com/esidery/status/1886213375861956803?s=46&t=R_sceQ4efZTX7nQnRN92Cw

[stephen jackson]

Here we go

[Leetonidas]

I'm gonna be so pissed when it ends up being Fox traded to Chicago for Lavine or some bullshit:lol

[tonight...you]

"Here we go"

SHAMS BOMB : "Zach Collins traded for patty mills"
Deal

[Degoat]

I'm gonna be so pissed when it ends up being Fox traded to Chicago for Lavine or some bullshit:lol

Damn that would be some shit! Lol I feel like we’re being led on lol

[CorrectCrusader]

https://x.com/esidery/status/1886213375861956803

[lefty20]

"Here we go"

SHAMS BOMB : "Zach Collins traded for patty mills"

Blake Wesley can learn the art of the towel waving from the master himself.

[Gandalf]

https://x.com/esidery/status/1886213375861956803?s=46&t=R_sceQ4efZTX7nQnRN92Cw

Significant package? Even without Castle, don’t want to give up too much. They don’t have that much leverage.

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs about to get fleeced

[Dejounte]

Lets fucking go

[objective]

Significant?

Lakers just got Doncic for peanuts and the Spurs can't hardball this? Time for B.Wrong to read ART OF THE DEAL instead of writing listacle articles for vanity presses to get fake writing cred

[Degoat]

My guess is Keldon, Sochan, Collins, SA 25, Chi 25

[DPG21920]

1886105070342676736

[SpursGenius]

Significant?

Lakers just got Doncic for peanuts and the Spurs can't hardball this? Time for B.Wrong to read ART OF THE DEAL instead of writing listacle articles for vanity presses to get fake writing cred
This. No way we part more than one frp for Fox at this point. Anf that frp better be charlotte or Bulls at worst. Market set with Luca trade. They can have Keldon, Collins and Tre

[Spurs Homer]

Please spurs
if there is a choice between vassell and sochan

get rid of assell

[benefactor]

Significant?

Lakers just got Doncic for peanuts and the Spurs can't hardball this? Time for B.Wrong to read ART OF THE DEAL instead of writing listacle articles for vanity presses to get fake writing cred
They can, but not because of that trade. That trade cannot be used to take the temperature of any deal.

[SpursGenius]

My guess is Keldon, Sochan, Collins, SA 25, Chi 25
Thats too much. Unless our pick top 10 protected at a minimum

[DPG21920]

Vassell + Sochan + picks?

[Leetonidas]

My guess is Keldon, Sochan, Collins, SA 25, Chi 25

This would be highway robbery by the Spurs:lol I hope you're right

[DPG21920]

As long as it’s not more than 2.5 firsts (meaning not 3 legit unprotected firsts) and Castle I can live with it.

[100%duncan]

Luka trade isn't affecting the market. Everyone and their mothers know that's about as bogus as it gets. It's wild that the NBA doesn't even pretend to investigate this shit.

[PhantomDashCam]

If Castle is the sticking point, do Spurs relent and possibly push for Keegan Murray in the trade too?
Vassell, Castle + Picks?

[SpursGenius]

This would be highway robbery by the Spurs:lol I hope you're right
nope, not after Luca trade

[baseline bum]

Kings would be retards to not ask for the 2030 pick since it has an unprotected Dallas swap and an unprotected Minnesota swap attached.

[objective]

They can, but not because of that trade. That trade cannot be used to take the temperature of any deal.

Disagree. The whole excuse from Nico is that everyone was loading up to sign him in 26 so they had to move now.

Fox is a free agent in 26, already turned down the extension, and everyone knows he wants SA.

There couldn't be a better comparison.

[baseline bum]

Need to get timvp in here so he can reach out to TSpence. Have no faith in Don Harris after TSpence scooped him on Gasol to the Spurs.

[Leetonidas]

nope, not after Luca trade

You realize Anthony Davis was included in that trade right? Luka being traded to the Lakers because the Mavs front is retarded doesn't suddenly make Fox is worth peanuts. Spurs basically dumping salary and giving up their own pick and the Chicago pick while still keep all their other future picks and Atlanta picks would be the best outcome we could hope for

[dn0774]

If Castle is the sticking point, do Spurs relent and possibly push for Keegan Murray in the trade too?
Vassell, Castle + Picks?

Pass on Murray, he has that Sochan-itis...literally zero improvement (some regression in fact) now into his 3rd season.

[Mugen]

"Significant" package. Only BWrong and Crew can pull a hold my beer on that Nico bullshit tbh.

[DPG21920]

Still like to hope it doesnt include Castle (obviously) but also no Sochan. But I can live with Sochan/Vassell if SA wants a redo and has fears about a new deal for Sochan which is somewhat justifiable based on shooting/performance this year.

I still believe in Dev and Sochan personally especially if SA has Wemby/Fox to make life easier, but I get it from a math perspective and as long as its not too many picks with them I will like it very much. Spurs need more top end talent either way

[baseline bum]

Pass on Murray, he has that Sochan-itis...literally zero improvement (some regression in fact) now into his 3rd season.

If they're ready to move on from Murray I want him. DeRozan is ruining the spacing for him.

[lefty20]

payringdogandkid.jpg that we don't get bent over the table for Fox.

[mo7888]

Vassell + Sochan + picks?

Devin + Keldon + 2 picks for Fox + Heurter is my guess.

[sfernald]

I am pretty open to any trade as long as they don’t try to steal Wesley from us damn it all!

[Dejounte]

I have a feeling Champagnie is gone

[benefactor]

Disagree. The whole excuse from Nico is that everyone was loading up to sign him in 26 so they had to move now.

Fox is a free agent in 26, already turned down the extension, and everyone knows he wants SA.

There couldn't be a better comparison.
And they could have easily gotten a much better deal. They didn't even try. They took an injury prone star and one fucking pick.

That deal is universally accepted as garbage by every respectable basketball mind out there. It is in no way a measurement for any deal anywhere.

[tonight...you]

Need to get timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) in here so he can reach out to TSpence. Have no faith in Don Harris after TSpence scooped him on Gasol to the Spurs.
We need Truth Spence right about now to lead us out of the desert of uncertainty.
tis true.

[tonight...you]

I have a feeling Champagnie is gone
Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!

[Dejounte]

CALM BEFORE THE STORM

[DAF86]

Don't give up more than a couple picks and maybe a swap. If not, we can wait it up, tbh.

[CGD]

Vassell + Sochan + picks?

I think it’s Vassell and two good picks. Or Keldon, Sochan and 2 good picks.

In either case add the CHA pick for cosmetic purposes.

The spurs also have CHI and SAS second rounders that are in the high 30s

[palangi]

Pass on Murray, he has that Sochan-itis...literally zero improvement (some regression in fact) now into his 3rd season.
Except Murray can make a shot

[tonight...you]

Don't give up more than a couple picks and maybe a swap. If not, we can wait it up, tbh.
I feel like a lot of us would cut off our noses to spite our face.

We can't think that we can get a Laker rape trade. It's not happening. We're not the Lakers. We won't be the Lakers.

Our team plays in a barn in a ghetto with zero star power to help them.

This is our truth. Our team needs to give to get. Now let's hope it's strategic and right, but it's not going to be a Laker trade.

[SpursGenius]

Don't give up more than a couple picks and maybe a swap. If not, we can wait it up, tbh.
couple ? at this point those bastards are only getting Charlotte and or bulls at most. Expiring frps. Market set with luca deal.

[BatManu20]

payringdogandkid.jpg that we don't get bent over the table for Fox.

Kings gonna take us to the woodshed tbh. Will make the Luka trade look even worse. "Even the Kings got 4 FRP's + 3 players for Fox!"

[stephen jackson]

Any more fake tweets I’m fiending

[BatManu20]

Don't give up more than a couple picks and maybe a swap. If not, we can wait it up, tbh.

:pop: "That's not who we are. We do things the right way over here."

[Degoat]

I feel blue balls coming on, none of these local SA/SAC guys have sources lol

[mo7888]

Except Murray can make a shot

Definitely take Murray over Sochan...just a better fit..

[benefactor]

Would you faggots stop saying that the Luka deal set the market? No one has ever made a trade like that and no one will ever make one like that again. At least make an honest attempt at containing your stupid for 5 minutes.

[mo7888]

I feel blue balls coming on, none of these local SA/SAC guys have sources lol

I'd definitely put more stock in the Sac guys..

[cd98]

Have the Spurs ever overpaid in a trade? I don't think they are going to overpay, but we'll see if that happens if a trade goes through.

[tonight...you]

Would you faggots stop saying that the Luka deal set the market? No one has ever made a trade like that and no one will ever make one like that again. At least make an honest attempt at containing your stupid for 5 minutes.
I pretty much said the same thing in a different way.

Games in barns, ghettos, lack of attention... all that.
Yeah. Damn. Let's just get Fox and go from there.
No Castle. Hard to lose the Atl 25, but from there? Anything goes.

[100%duncan]

Would you faggots stop saying that the Luka deal set the market? No one has ever made a trade like that and no one will ever make one like that again. At least make an honest attempt at containing your stupid for 5 minutes.

Even insinuating that the Luka deal proves "anyone can be available". Bruh the GM himself admitted that Luka WAS NOT available to anyone else but the Lakers because he wanted AD SPECIFICALLY. That's about as crazy as crazy gets.

And even then playing into that silly argument, Fox can be our AD in the future.

[vy65]

1886221641451012194

[cd98]

Would you faggots stop saying that the Luka deal set the market? No one has ever made a trade like that and no one will ever make one like that again. At least make an honest attempt at containing your stupid for 5 minutes.

People are acting like Anthony Davis has zero value. If anyone was trading for him without getting an all star in return, he would yield a bunch of draft picks. Now, I don't think he alone is better than giving up Luka. But the Mavs were not fleeced in that they got a great player in return, albeit an older one that has less years in his prime. But it's not like when the Spurs traded Kawhi for DDR, Poeltl, and a draft pick (Keldon Johnson).

[DPG21920]

No one is looking at Luka deal and actually arguing that sets market lol. May work on here, but not in real world. Fox deal wont be like Bridges etc…with 5 firsts though either. Due to leverage it will be reasonable and nothing like Mitchell or Bridges deal IMO

[benefactor]

Somebody trades a Rolex for a Casio G-Shock and suddenly the market is set.

[scott]

My body is ready.

[objective]

Have the Spurs ever overpaid in a trade? I don't think they are going to overpay, but we'll see if that happens if a trade goes through.

Hmmmm

Maybe 2 firsts for a washed Kurt Thomas, but those picks at least one was near the end of the first. And it was in response to the Pau-Lakers trade so the whole league was on tilt trying to adjust. Makes right now a dangerous time of overpaying to compensate

SCRATCH THAT, I WAS WRONG, CONFUSED WITH THE Nazr TRADE

IGNORE IT ALL, I'D MAKE A STRIKE THROUGH FONT BUT AM TOO DUMB LOL

[benefactor]

People are acting like Anthony Davis has zero value. If anyone was trading for him without getting an all star in return, he would yield a bunch of draft picks. Now, I don't think he alone is better than giving up Luka. But the Mavs were not fleeced in that they got a great player in return, albeit an older one that has less years in his prime. But it's not like when the Spurs traded Kawhi for DDR, Poeltl, and a draft pick (Keldon Johnson).
Stop it. They were fleeced.

[tonight...you]

No one is looking at Luka deal and actually arguing that sets market lol. May work on here, but not in real world. Fox deal wont be like Bridges etc…with 5 firsts though either. Due to leverage it will be reasonable and nothing like Mitchell or Bridges deal IMO
Agreed. You have to give to get, but it shouldn't be a Laker Rape by any means.

[tonight...you]

My body is ready.
My bruv.
Fist to chest.

[Leetonidas]

1886221641451012194

The way the guy on the left sounds when answering whether the fans are going to like it or not makes me think Spurs aren't giving up a ton

[Rubberducky]

ESPN Sacramento has a YouTube livestream as well for those who hate Twitter: https://www.youtube.com/live/Nezw_fnb00U?si=vM_OERv1zIpmrxjT

[PhantomDashCam]

The best...:lol

1886219064466702577

[DAF86]

I have a feeling Champagnie is gone

I would be really angry if that happens. Not getting Champ isn't going to be a deal breaker for the Kings. If Champ is gone is because PATFO didn't care to keep him hard enough.

[ffadicted]

Just sittin around with my dick in my hand, this shit gon happen today or not ffs

[LongtimeSpursFan]

ESPN radio is saying they deal is done. Should be announced tonight.

[cd98]

My gut is Kings basically decided to make a trade without including Castle.

[NASpurs]

ESPN radio is saying they deal is done. Should be announced tonight.

Their source: Dusty Garza

Speaking of which, what is old numb nuts up to?

[tonight...you]

My gut is Kings basically decided to make a trade without including Castle.
Good. Castle will be integral no matter the team makeup.

[lefty20]

1886225429272387803

[vy65]

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1886225429272387803?s=46&t=_hOkVHptcbAMOAEHj_SvkA

[Degoat]

Speculation but I wonder if the the waiting is giving teams respect to let their players know about it. Because you know the spurs are family like that. There gonna have a conversation with the player

[Leetonidas]

Holy shit I was half right :lol

[scott]

WE FUCKING DID IT BOYS

[Larry O]

Fox to SA, and Zach Lavine to Sacramento.

[vy65]

It happened


It fucking happened

[Spurs Brazil]

Yes!!!!!

[cd98]

But what did Spurs give????

[Robz4000]

Guessing the '25 pick back to the Bulls.

[NASpurs]

1886225429272387803

Will timvp rise from the grave and grace us with his presence?

[DPG21920]

Lavine to SAC, so hope we sent out CHI pick in deal….

[BatManu20]

Boom!

[objective]

What was the cost?

[Davidicus]

Price price price

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1886225808189960679

[weeks]

who'd we give up? let's goo!

[100%duncan]

LETS FUCKING GO

[tonight...you]

If Castle was a part of it, it would have already been a part of the tweet.

I hope...

[baseline bum]

Heurter to CHI

[lefty20]

Lefty Guard + Legendary Big = Chips

It is known!

[DPG21920]

3 firsts at least in deal….just need to see from who and what ones

[Guru of Nothing]

Just announced on Celts Sixers game. FOX to Spurs

[baseline bum]

Three firsts per Chris Haynes

[scott]

3 FRPs involved says the Kings guy

[Larry O]

3 first round picks from the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

Hope we kept the 2030

[Mugen]

Anything more than Vassell/Sochan/Two of the Lesser 1st Rounders would be an overpay given all the leverage Fox built for them tbh.

[Mugen]

It's here - 3 teamer with Chicago

[tbdog]

AD has value, but he has value for the Hail Mary team like the Warriors giving up Draymond and Kuminga and their future picks. Twolves going with Gobert and picks. Or Clippers giving up Zubac and Powell and all there picks, or Grizzlies giving up on Bane and Jackson and picks. All those teams probably wounldn't go that far. But that's what AD value is, he is the risk piece you take for one last attempt to put around Edwards, Curry, Morant. And hurt your future for risk.

If you add the Mavs, if they wanted AD it's Irving and Lively and picks.

Twolves don't offer Edwards, Grizzlies don't offer Morant, and Warriors don't offer Curry.

[CorrectCrusader]

Finally the tanking is over. FUCK THAT SHIT

[NASpurs]

1886226485809488348

[mo7888]

We kept Castle

[ace3g]

https://x.com/sam_amick/status/1886227464432857391

[cd98]

Spurs should have included their pick this year over Atlanta's since Fox is going to make the Spurs a play-in team and possibly make it into the 8th seed.

[Larry O]

Trey Jones to the Bulls.

[100%duncan]

Omfg he offloaded zach collins

[scott]

LOL WE ONLY GAVE UP TRE AND ZOLLINS!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

BRIAN WRIGHT LIFETIME CONTRACT COMING UP

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Collin’s gone

[TheBallsbreakers]

FUckkkk yeah

[scott]

AND WE KEPT ALL THE ATLANTA PICKS?!?!?!?!?!?!?! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

BRIAN WRIGHT I LOVE YOU

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1886228220925943975

[baseline bum]

It's the CHA pick, the 27 Spurs, and the 20131 Minnesota!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Please not Castle.

[Guru of Nothing]

No bad news detected, yet.

[CorrectCrusader]

No players were given up https://x.com/DonHarris4/status/1886228663797961210

[scott]

Whoever said we could get Fox for Zollins + Tre + Sidy + CHA25 + CHI25 + SA27 + MIN31 plus some SRPs would have been laughed out of here but Brian Wright did it.

[baseline bum]

Never in my wildest fucking dreams did I believe the Spurs could get Fox that cheap. Holy fuck.

[CorrectCrusader]

I gotta change my pfp bro wtf Brian COOKING

[Ice009]

So, the Spurs used that 2031 pick in the package to get De'Aaron Fox.

[BacktoBasics]

Conflicting reports on what 2025 pick goes out

[Robz4000]

:wow

[kjhip1]

Now that’s how you trade in Texas, damn good job by the FO

[Payote75]

We kept core in tact gave away the lesser of most of the picks and who knows their maybe more to come bite my tongue.

[benefactor]

Whoever said we could get Fox for Zollins + Tre + Sidy + CHA25 + CHI25 + SA27 + MIN31 plus some SRPs would have been laughed out of here but Brian Wright did it.
Absolutely phenomenal job. Cheers brother

[baseline bum]

Holy shit Spurs kept their 25 picks, the 26 with ATL swap, the 27 ATL pick, and the 2030 with unprotected DAL/MIN swaps. Fucking bravo, BWright!

[TheBallsbreakers]

Sidy gone but overall a stellar job by Wright!

[BacktoBasics]

So, the Spurs used that 2031 pick in the package to get De'Aaron Fox.

A lot of people are gonna eat a dick on that.

[PhantomDashCam]

California - Holy cow.
"you either smoke or you get smoked....and you got smoked"- Sidney Deen to Sacramento

[BatManu20]

Fucking B-Right masterclass tbh. LFG.

[CorrectCrusader]

Sidy gone but overall a stellar job by Wright!

Sidy blows nobody missing him

[100%duncan]

BRIAN WRIGHT YOU ARE NOW THE MOST LOVED SPUR (after Wemby)

[vy65]

This is fucking masterful. I’ve shat on BWrong plenty, but I’ll give him credit for this. That’s a fucking great spend for Fox

Fox/CP3
Steph/CP3
DV24/Keldon/Jules
HB/Jeremy
Wemby/Bassey

[baseline bum]

Spurs still have a massive war chest to go after Durant or Cam Johnson or whoever comes available this summer. I don't know how they managed to get De'Aaron without giving up a single core part of that war chest.

[Mugen]

Holy Fuck, BWrong actually did it. :lol

[Payote75]

Love Keldon but he still here still a ton of good picks I honestly can see something else happening Cam Johnson anyone?

[Davidicus]

KELDON JOHNSON YOU ARE A SAN ANTONIO SPUR

[Larry O]

Now, will the Spurs go after a backup big to replace Zollins? I think the Spurs are not done yet. GSG!!!

[Ice009]

How about trying to get a big to help Victor out a bit with the banging? Maybe Jonas?

[100%duncan]

Am I dreaming? Is this right?

SA Out:
Tre
Zach
Sidy
2025 Cha pick
2025 Chi pick
2027 SAS
2031 Pick

That's it? :lmao :lmao

[kjhip1]

Still need a big man, but that should push us into play-in can’t believe we offloaded Collin’s contract imagine adding Flagg to this lineup

[Extra Stout]

The Spurs fucking bent everyone over. Wow.

[jeebus]

All the "B Wrong" people need to be sent to the Tree of Woe

[Robz4000]

Hell of a trade by BWrong imo.

[twodeep]

Bulls are all in on the Tank and rebuild; Lavine to Kings is probably net neutral move so they are assuming not losing much. I think this is an upgrade for the Spurs. Maybe this summer we unload Keldon or Vassel for another 3 and wing

[CorrectCrusader]

Brian Wright literally raped them wtf

[TheBallsbreakers]

Excellent work but we do need another big. Might not be done yet.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Damn. BW did good as hell. Props.

[Spurs Brazil]

Brian Wright did a fantastic job, FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!

[Death In June]

Absolutely stunned. Wow. Great fucking job.

[BatManu20]

Kept all our rotational pieces, didn't give up either ATL Pick, and got rid of Zollins. It's a fucking Christmas miracle tbh. Brian Wright deserves the best hand-job a San Antonio torta can provide tbh. What an absolute masterclass. :lol

[Davidicus]

So SAC didn’t even get their swap back?

Also, these are the “FRPs”:

2031 MIN
2025 CHI (top 8 protected)
2027 SA
2025 CHA

I call that 2.5 FRPs and a bunch of 2nds.

[AusSpur]

Wow, did Sacramento even check the protections on that Charlotte pick?

[FkLA]

Holy shit. How the hell did they manage to not give up Castle or Vassell? Not even KJ :lmao

[tim_duncan_fan]

KELDON JOHNSON YOU ARE A SAN ANTONIO SPUR

I really hope he grows consistent. This is a reprieve, and he should treat it as such.

[thiste]

Incredibly beneficial trade man... We're losing none of Castle, Vassell, Sochan, KJ? Never thought that was possible.

A little sad for losing my countryman Sidy, I'm sure Tre can thrive in Chicago and hope Zollins does as well...

But damn!! We're getting Fox for just that??? WOW :wow

[vy65]

Who tf is Jordan McLaughlin by the way?

[Ice009]

I really hope he grows consistent. This is a reprieve, and he should treat it as such.

As far as I'm concerned, if these guys don't perform, they're still on the block. Just because they didn't go out in this trade, doesn't mean they can't be in another one.

[Das Texan]

Spurs actually used that Charlotte pick for something useful? Holy shit. True masterclass!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Who tf is Jordan McLaughlin by the way?

Some guy Pop would play for an inexcusable amount of minutes lol

[thiste]

Who tf is Jordan McLaughlin by the way?

A pretty good 3 pt shooter apparently. I'm satisfied.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/TheTyJager/status/1886231800751767824

[timtonymanu]

All the "B Wrong" people need to be sent to the Tree of Woe

I’ll be up there with Mono’s Mavs fandom.

[itzsoweezee]

Amazing trade. Spurs FO has been really good recently

[GAustex]

Not gonna lie losing Sidy hurts

[twodeep]

Who tf is Jordan McLaughlin by the way?

Looks like a Tre Jones clone basically a end of the bench 6' PG

[cd98]

These Sacramento ESPN radio guys are hilarious.

[DPG21920]

Brian Wright fleeced so hard. Kings did well, CHI did well and all 3 teams probably happy enough. But SPURS FLEECED

[cd98]

Rich Paul making up with the Spurs for the Morris free agency signing fiasco.

[NASpurs]

Looks like a Tre Jones clone basically a end of the bench 6' PG

Looks more like a Jamaree Bouyea clone to me.

[DPG21920]

Where is Dejounte calling me delusional and saying he cant wait for Spurs to get fleeced and pay more so he can “quote my stupidity and understanding of leverage”? :lol

[CGD]

In a three way to the Bulls were Lavine goes to SAC and Fox to SA, i think Keldon + Tre's expiring to the Bulls offers us the best way to keep as much draft capital as possible. Not sure SAC will need much if any draft compensation in that deal given their decreasing leverage, and Lavine's trade market has been depressed for some time given his bad contract. SAC has also been linked to Lavine in the past.

Put differently, we would offer the Bulls:
1. Their pick back
2. immediate AND long term cap flexibility from a bad contract
3. a solid rotation player on a descending deal (plus Tre's Birds Rights)

Just saying...

[Strategic]

I’m almost in as much disbelief now as I was this morning. Hell yeah

[TheBallsbreakers]

I really hope he grows consistent. This is a reprieve, and he should treat it as such.
Agreed. The last two games hopefully portend a better version of KJ in the future, fingers crossed.
He is a surefire sparkplug if he keeps that up.

[Ice009]

Rich Paul making up with the Spurs for the Morris free agency signing fiasco.

Well, the guy came through. Props for getting his client where he wanted to go. He ended up a big winner too bringing Doncic to the Lakers. I was even thinking that the Fox trade talk might have been a smoke screen to do the Davis/Doncic trade, but both were on the table and he got them done.

[PhantomDashCam]

Congrats fam. Welcome to SA Fox!

[buttsR4rebounding]

Where is Dejounte calling me delusional and saying he cant wait for Spurs to get fleeced and pay more so he can “quote my stupidity and understanding of leverage”? :lol

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