View Full Version : 2012 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread (+ related news)
Pages :
1
2
3
[
4]
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
billfromlaketravis
05-31-2011, 03:58 PM
Bill-
Should Texas offer a guy like Jamal Palmer or Danielle Hunter in the future (or even this weekend), I don't think that has any bearing on what's going on with Davis or Spence. I think both of those guys are recruited until the end and viewed as cherries to put on top of this class.
Excellent. I'm glad the Texas staff is taking that approach. Palmer and Hunter are better than Bluiett in my opinion.
TFloss32
05-31-2011, 04:15 PM
Magee is a Louisiana native correct?
Yep. Magee moved to San Antonio after Hurricane Katrina. 2013 DT Vincent Taylor of San Antonio Madison did the same as well. He'll also be looking for that LSU offer.
billfromlaketravis
05-31-2011, 05:57 PM
Yep. Magee moved to San Antonio after Hurricane Katrina. 2013 DT Vincent Taylor of San Antonio Madison did the same as well. He'll also be looking for that LSU offer.
Who do you think are the priorities at DT for 2013? Isiah Golden and Justin Manning should be the top 2 targets in my opinion. DT is very deep in 2013, Bo will have some tough decisions to make.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 08:44 AM
OU picked up commitment #6 yesterday:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Laith-Harlow-115612
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 08:50 AM
Who do you think are the priorities at DT for 2013? Isiah Golden and Justin Manning should be the top 2 targets in my opinion. DT is very deep in 2013, Bo will have some tough decisions to make.
BFLT-
It's hard to say because it's so early and you have two guys in A'Shawn Robinson and Darius James who are interchangeable. I do think Stacy Searels wants Robinson all to himself, so I'll list him as an OL for now even though he's a BAMF at DT and the staff may be forced to keep him there. I'd say take your picks based off of these two lists (and these are only the names we currently know about):
Offensive Line
Alex Mayes, Van Alstyne
Kent Perkins, Dallas Lake Highlands
Jake Raulerson, Celina
A'Shawn Robinson, FW Arlington Heights
Ja'Braylin Thomas, Weimar
Josh Thomas, Evangel Christian (Shreveport, LA)
Defensive Line
Isaiah Golden, Elysian Fields
Ben Hughes, Waco University
Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights
Justin Manning, Dallas Kimball
Vincent Taylor, San Antonio Madison
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 11:20 AM
OU picked up commitment #6 yesterday:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Laith-Harlow-115612
OU got a TE from Florida. I wish Texas did that last year, see O'Leary, Nick.
Harlow is good player, 4 star TEs don't exactly grow on trees especially in the spread offense era.
I love how Harlow to OU was reported by TexAgs with the comment that OU still doesn't have a commitment with an Aggie offer. How is that even relevant with Harlow? Haha.
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 11:40 AM
BFLT-
It's hard to say because it's so early and you have two guys in A'Shawn Robinson and Darius James who are interchangeable. I do think Stacy Searels wants Robinson all to himself, so I'll list him as an OL for now even though he's a BAMF at DT and the staff may be forced to keep him there. I'd say take your picks based off of these two lists (and these are only the names we currently know about):
Offensive Line
Alex Mayes, Van Alstyne
Kent Perkins, Dallas Lake Highlands
Jake Raulerson, Celina
A'Shawn Robinson, FW Arlington Heights
Ja'Braylin Thomas, Weimar
Josh Thomas, Evangel Christian (Shreveport, LA)
Defensive Line
Isaiah Golden, Elysian Fields
Ben Hughes, Waco University
Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights
Justin Manning, Dallas Kimball
Vincent Taylor, San Antonio Madison
TFloss, how tall is too tall to play DT? A'Shawn is already 6'4," and Darius James is 6'5." Kent Perkins at 6'5'' is playing some DT this year.
I'm not worried about Kent Perkins choosing OT because he'd come to Texas at any position, but I'm not so sure about Robinson. Agreed, Robinson could be dominant at OT or DT. Even if Searels wants Robinson to himself, I'd like for Texas to give him the option to play offense or defense. Different situation in my opinion than Michael Starts. Starts is a top 200 national player at OT, but at DL he'd be lucky to make the Texas 150. While Robinson could be a top 50 national player on offense or defense.
Raulerson is intriguing. I love his attitude and film; however, Jake must gain good weight. Last time I heard, Raulerson was at 235-240. His weight at J5 will be very interesting. One would think that Raulerson would need to be 260 - 270 by Junior Day 2012 for a Texas offer.
All the names on the OL are studs. Mayes is probably the least impressive and a TCU legacy, I don't think he'll be a priority.
Darius James is playing center this coming season. It'll be interesting to see where Texas recruits him. Depending on who plays what this season, Texas might need a center in 2013 with David Snow graduating.
OL and DT are both very deep again in 2013. Perfect timing for a team that is attempting to rebuild their offensive line. Thanks for the names to watch TFloss.
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 12:05 PM
You got it TFloss.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 12:11 PM
Sorry for any confusion as there are some conflicting reports out there. The big news of the morning is OL Michael Starts of Waco La Vega will be making his college decision tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. There's no mention if he'll follow through with his plans to attend a Texas Tech camp this weekend, but the Red Raiders appear to be the favorite at this time. Baylor could be the dark horse here. Starts is a guy who's always been all over the map with his decisions, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything. He was still talking about attending one of Texas' summer camps a few days ago, so it's possible that Stacy Searels inviting other OLs to campus has given him the nudge he needs to make a decision in favor of the Longhorns. However, he's likely going to make a decision that will allow him to play defense at the college level.
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 12:16 PM
Sorry for any confusion as there are some conflicting reports out there. The big news of the morning is OL Michael Starts of Waco La Vega will be making his college decision tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. There's no mention if he'll follow through with his plans to attend a Texas Tech camp this weekend, but the Red Raiders appear to be the favorite at this time. Baylor could be the dark horse here. Starts is a guy who's always been all over the map with his decisions, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything. He was still talking about attending one of Texas' summer camps a few days ago, so it's possible that Stacy Searels inviting other OLs to campus has given him the nudge he needs to make a decision in favor of the Longhorns. However, he's likely going to make a decision that will allow him to play defense at the college level.
Seaver Myers and Greg Brantley are high fiving each other right now.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 01:53 PM
I saw a guy ask about this over at Recruitocosm the other day. The UT staff is still looking at JUCO DE Denico Autry of East Mississippi CC. As a matter of fact, Bo Davis called Autry's defensive coordinator, William Jones, last week to ask about his grades and if interest was still there. Jones mentioned that he and Autry "gravitate" towards Davis because of the type of person he is. Turns out Jones and Davis have been friends for a while. Jones also went on to say that the ball is in Texas' court when it comes to Autry. The Longhorns will continue to be one of the leading candidates for his services should they decide to stay in the race through the end of the year. Autry still plans on making an official visit to Austin this fall.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 01:58 PM
A few early photos of some of the 2011 guys checking in (more will be added later):
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/photogallery/gallery_index.html?school=tex&sport=m-footbl&
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 02:04 PM
I saw a guy ask about this over at Recruitocosm the other day. The UT staff is still looking at JUCO DE Denico Autry of East Mississippi CC. As a matter of fact, Bo Davis called Autry's defensive coordinator, William Jones, last week to ask about his grades and if interest was still there. Jones mentioned that he and Autry "gravitate" towards Davis because of the type of person he is. Turns out Jones and Davis have been friends for a while. Jones also went on to say that the ball is in Texas' court when it comes to Autry. The Longhorns will continue to be one of the leading candidates for his services should they decide to stay in the race through the end of the year. Autry still plans on making an official visit to Austin this fall.
TFloss where does Autry fall on the Texas priority list? I'd put Autry right up there with Torshiro Davis and Noah Spence.
Do you think Danielle Hunter will be offered at J5? I could definitely get behind that.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 02:14 PM
TFloss, how tall is too tall to play DT? A'Shawn is already 6'4," and Darius James is 6'5." Kent Perkins at 6'5'' is playing some DT this year.
You probably know more than me on that one, Bill. Admittedly I'm not very good when it comes saying this guy should play this position or that one. I think the average NFL DT is around 6'3". Not sure what the rule of thumb is in college other than you obviously want tall, long OTs to protect your QB and that's why a lot of DTs are moved to the other side of the ball if they keep growing. I think guys like Robinson and James will be sorted out once they get to campus based on needs at the time. It's clear that both Davis and Searels are doing their best to bolster UT's play in the trenches.
TFloss where does Autry fall on the Texas priority list? I'd put Autry right up there with Torshiro Davis and Noah Spence.
Do you think Danielle Hunter will be offered at J5? I could definitely get behind that.
My gut instinct is he's not a priority because of Mack Brown's JUCO policy, but it's hard to deny UT's interest in this guy. It may speak to how Davis feels about the depth on the DL right now. Autry is an interesting prospect to me not only because he's one of the top JUCO players in the nation, but I also wonder where he'll fall when it comes to scholarship numbers. If he doesn't technically count towards the 2012 class, the staff may be able to make the numbers work while still pursuing younger guys like Torshiro and Spence.
As far as DE Danielle Hunter and DE Jamal Palmer, 24/7 Hook 'Em thinks it's realistic that one of those guys gets offered at J5 or some time this summer. I prefer Hunter because I think he's got a lot of room to grow both physcially and technically.
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 02:32 PM
You probably know more than me on that one, Bill. Admittedly I'm not very good when it comes saying this guy should play this position or that one. I think the average NFL DT is around 6'3". Not sure what the rule of thumb is in college other than you obviously want tall, long OTs to protect your QB and that's why a lot of DTs are moved to the other side of the ball if they keep growing. I think guys like Robinson and James will be sorted out once they get to campus based on needs at the time. It's clear that both Davis and Searels are doing their best to bolster UT's play in the trenches.
My gut instinct is he's not a priority because of Mack Brown's JUCO policy, but it's hard to deny UT's interest in this guy. It may speak to how Davis feels about the depth on the DL right now. Autry is an interesting prospect to me not only because he's one of the top JUCO players in the nation, but I also wonder where he'll fall when it comes to scholarship numbers. If he doesn't technically count towards the 2012 class, the staff may be able to make the numbers work while still pursuing younger guys like Torshiro and Spence.
As far as DE Danielle Hunter and DE Jamal Palmer, 24/7 Hook 'Em thinks it's realistic that one of those guys gets offered at J5 or some time this summer. I prefer Hunter because I think he's got a lot of room to grow both physcially and technically.
Agreed Texas appears interested in Autry. If Mack is still dead set against taking JUCO players, I don't think Bo Davis or Manny Diaz would have continuing contact with Autry. Mack has given the new coaches a lot more freedom, but something as big as Texas recruiting a JUCO would have to be done with Mack's knowledge and approval in my opinion. I think Autry would play immediately at Texas, perhaps a two or even one year rental.
There's a lot to like with Danielle Hunter. Good frame, long arms, athleticism and the late bloomer tag. Lock up Hunter, and add the Torshiro Davis or Noah Spence gravy later.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Agreed Texas appears interested in Autry. If Mack is still dead set against taking JUCO players, I don't think Bo Davis or Manny Diaz would have continuing contact with Autry. Mack has given the new coaches a lot more freedom, but something as big as Texas recruiting a JUCO would have to be done with Mack's knowledge and approval in my opinion. I think Autry would play immediately at Texas, perhaps a two or even one year rental.
I'd love to hear what Brown has been telling Davis and Diaz with regards to Autry as both have been calling his coach for quite some time now and Davis already made two trips to his school. Seems a bit silly if his recruitment was simply all for naught.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 02:57 PM
Couple more quick things on the upcoming camps...
*Baylor commit OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial will be attending Texas' summer camp on June 12th. The staff wanted him in Austin for June 5th to evaluate him alongside the other OL candidates, but they'll take it. Armstead was likely the leader for that next OL offer before he committed to the Bears (and that could still be the case).
*2013 WR Dannon Cavil (nephew of former Texas WR Kwame Cavil) of Austin Lake Travis will be in Austin for J5.
*S Leo Thomas of San Antonio Sam Houston will not be in attendance this weekend. This probably means DT Javonte Magee is a no-go as well as he relies on other folks for transporatation.
*DE Denzel Devall of Bastrop, LA is another guy to scratch off the list for this weekend. Turns out he has a summer job as a lifeguard and he'll be busy with that (not a joke). His trip to College Station was also cancelled.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 03:00 PM
The latest on DB Geno Smith of Atlanta, GA has him in Austin for an unofficial visit during the month of July.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 03:08 PM
For those of you haven't caught this yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezp8wM2LCIs
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 03:44 PM
Couple more quick things on the upcoming camps...
*Baylor commit OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial will be attending Texas' summer camp on June 12th. The staff wanted him in Austin for June 5th to evaluate him alongside the other OL candidates, but they'll take it. Armstead was likely the leader for that next OL offer before he committed to the Bears (and that could still be the case).
*2013 WR Dannon Cavil (nephew of former Texas WR Kwame Cavil) of Austin Lake Travis will be in Austin for J5.
*S Leo Thomas of San Antonio Sam Houston will not be in attendance this weekend. This probably means DT Javonte Magee is a no-go as well as he relies on other folks for transporatation.
*DE Denzel Devall of Bastrop, LA is another guy to scratch off the list for this weekend. Turns out he has a summer job as a lifeguard and he'll be busy with that (not a joke). His trip to College Station was also cancelled.
Some thoughts:
Starts making his decision now, especially before J5 helps Texas. Excellent news on Armstead attending J12. I continue to like Armstead the best out of the in state Plan B options.
In my opinion the Starts back up options, by priority:
1) DJ Reader (if Searels projects Reader as a college OT)
2) Tre-von Armstead
3) Greg Brantley
4) Richard "Rico Suave" Webb II
5) Seaver Myers
Quick breakdown based on the Youtube film:
Man crushing big time on DJ Reader, could be dominant wherever he plays in college. Raw athleticism, foot speed, physical nasty, agile. All that good stuff. Reader was playing a lot of OT in the film and dominating, not sure why he's listed as an OG.
Armstead can really move and shows excellent athleticism. Armstead is a LT all the way, nice early snag for Bible Aggie. Briles please take another job, soon.
Brantley has very good film. I have no idea why Gerry H is down on Brantley, good athleticism and plenty physical. There's a bit of drop off from Brantley to Webb.
Webb is huge and a mauler, but a bit slow. If Webb improves his foot speed and get his weight down, he could develop into a good right tackle. Not sure why Tech hasn't given Rico a call, Webb is the type of tackle Tech has taken in the Leach / Tubbs era.
The drop off after Webb is dramatic, think Bobby De Niro in Deer Hunter dramatic. Myers looks slow, unathletic and I hate to drop the FAT bomb, but I will. Myers is built like The Woodland's Chad Lindsay aka That Fat Kid from The Woodlands.
Roos and Meador are interior guys all the way. No thanks, this year.
ThePop
06-01-2011, 07:38 PM
A few early photos of some of the 2011 guys checking in (more will be added later):
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/photogallery/gallery_index.html?school=tex&sport=m-footbl&
I like Malcolm's room, is that in Jester?
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 07:50 PM
The Inside Texas 2013 Watch List:
Quarterbacks:
Tyrone Swoopes (6-5/210/4.59) Whitewright
Kenny Hill (6-1/195/4.7) Southlake Carroll
DeVante Kincade (6-1/177/4.6) Dallas Skyline
Jordan Darling (6-4/230) Waco Midway
Shane McCarley (5-11/190) Manvel
Kohl Stewart (6-3/185) St. Pius X
Damion Hobbs (6-2/190/4.7) Cedar Hill
Running Backs:
Dontre Wilson (5-11/170/4.4) DeSoto
Jamel James (5-11/220) Katy Cinco Ranch
James White (6-0/190/4.5) Pearland Dawson
LaQuintas Wallace (5-11/185/4.4) Tyler Lee
Laquvionte Gonzalez (5-10/175/4.4) Cedar Hill
Marcus Goodson (5-9/170/4.5) Klein Collins
Wide Receivers:
Ricky Seals-Jones (6-5/215/4.5) Sealy
Jake Oliver (6-3/180/4.6) Dallas Jesuit
Dannon Cavil (6-4/200) Lake Travis
Jamar Gibson (6-2/190/4.6) Baytown Sterling (Committed to Texas A&M)
Robbie Rhodes (5-10/165/4.5) Southwest
Jarvis Baxter (6-0/165) Garland Lakeview Centennial
Tight Ends:
Derrick Griffin (6-6/190/4.6) Rosenberg Terry
Trent Gow (6-2/190) Mansfield
Offensive Lineman:
Matt Beyer (6-6/275/5.2) SA Ronald Reagan
Patrick Morris (6-3/265) Denton Guyer
Jake Raulerson (6-4/230) Celina
Kevin Coleman (6-2/294) Dallas Skyline
Darius James (6-5/319) Harker Heights
Kent Perkins (6-5/300) Lake Highlands
Defensive Ends:
Jay Arnold (6-4/225/4.8) Rockwall Heath
Christian Lacouture (6-4/240) Odessa Permian (Committed to Texas A&M)
Darien James (6-0/220) Richmond Foster
William Udeh (6-3/225/4.8) Coppell
Devion Anderson (6-3/220/4.6) Dallas Skyline
Defensive Tackles:
Justin Manning (6-3/275/5.0) Dallas Kimball
A’Shawn Robinson (6-4/300) Arlington Heights
Ben Hughes (6-4/310) Waco University
Vincent Taylor (6-3/245) SA James Madison
Isaiah Golden (6-3/295) Elysian Fields
Karick Huggins (6-4/285) Dallas Skyline
Linebackers:
Marcos Curry (5-11/194/4.71) Round Rock Stony Point
Darius McClinton (5-11/210/4.54) Copperas Cove
Paul Whitmill (6-1/200) Bastrop
Deion Hollins Jr. (6-2/210/4.6) Fort Bend Marshall
Isiah Williams (6-1/220) Dallas Skyline
Defensive Backs:
Will Barrow (5-10/171/4.5) Dallas Skyline
Colin Janice (5-9/170/4.5) West Orange-Stark
Kyle Hicks (5-11/180/4.5) Arlington Martin
Raaquan Davis (6-2/195) Rockwall Heath
Austin Jupe (6-1/180/4.55) San Antonio East Central
Jalen Barnes (5-11/175/4.5) Port Arthur Memorial
George Baltimore (5-10/190/4.6) Mansfield
Athletes:
Erin Reece (5-11/190/4.6) Willis
T.J. Austin (6-0/175) Angelton
Gregory Ward (5-11/165/4.5) John Tyler
Craig Moore (5-10/165) Denton Ryan
Randon Knotts (6-0/170/4.6) Lyndon B. Johnson
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 07:54 PM
I like Malcolm's room, is that in Jester?
I believe all the freshman football players live in Jester. I'm pretty sure they live in the West Tower, but please don't quote me on that.
I'm not sure what the living off campus rules are, but Texas players have the option of living on campus throughout their eligibility.
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 08:13 PM
*DB Bryson Echols of DeSoto will be attending the June 12th camp, not J5.
*DE Danielle Hunter of Katy Morton Ranch said he will not be attending J5. He does have plans to make trips to Austin and Baton Rouge this summer for unofficials.
*Another OL name to file away is Kyle Fuller of Wylie. I've read some good reviews on this guy in the past couple of weeks, but I wasn't sure if Texas was evaluating him or not. Turns out the staff visited his high school on more than one occasion this spring and he does have an invite to J5. No word if he'll attend.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Kyle-Fuller-122638
TFloss32
06-01-2011, 08:21 PM
More changes...good news and bad news. DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA won't be able to make J5 and work out with the current UT commitments and other prospects, but he'll be arriving in Austin on Monday and will be spending at least a day and half on campus. It sucks that he won't be able to bond a little bit with the 2012 guys, but he'll definitely get more one-on-one time with the coaching staff and additional time to see the campus, facilities, dorms, etc.
billfromlaketravis
06-01-2011, 08:24 PM
More changes...good news and bad news. DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA won't be able to make J5 and work out with the current UT commitments and other prospects, but he'll be arriving in Austin on Monday and will be spending at least a day and half on campus. It sucks that he won't be able to bond a little bit with the 2012 guys, but he'll definitely get more one-on-one time with the coaching staff and additional time to see the campus, facilities, dorms, etc.
And the hits keep coming. Off the top of my head, Jamal Palmer will be the only DE at J5.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
*Just a reminder that OL Michael Starts of Waco La Vega is making his decision this morning at 10 a.m. I'll post info as soon I as I read it.
*LB Peter Jinkens of Dallas Skyline is another UT commitment who will be camping on June 12th instead. Said he's very excited to get down to Austin and work more with Manny Diaz.
*It's not really that big of a deal, but for those who haven't read it elsewhere...DB Landon Collins of Geismar, LA has UT in his final five schools. He still plans on visiting Austin with his father in July. He'll be camping at Alabama and Tennessee during the month of June.
*Just a reminder that OL Michael Starts of Waco La Vega is making his decision this morning at 10 a.m. I'll post info as soon I as I read it.
my gut feeling is tech but that is just a pure guess of course.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 09:35 AM
my gut feeling is tech but that is just a pure guess of course.
That is my guess as well. The dude is known for being random, so Baylor wouldn't surprise me in the least.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 09:38 AM
Some great news this morning...ATH Nelson Agholor of Tampa, FL will be in Austin next week for an unofficial visit. He's flying out on Sunday and will be likely be on campus by Tuesday. He's apparently going to see TCU first.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 10:03 AM
OL Michael Starts has committed to Texas Tech.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 10:23 AM
OL Michael Starts has committed to Texas Tech.
TFloss, now that Starts is officially off the board, who do you like to take his spot? If we're talking in state OTs, I believe Brantley and Armstead are the only real options.
Texas' continued disinterest in Trey Kennan is baffling.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 10:26 AM
TFloss, now that Starts is officially off the board, who do you like to take his spot? If we're talking in state OTs, I believe Brantley and Armstead are the only real options.
Texas' continued disinterest in Trey Kennan is baffling.
I'd have to agree with you there. I'm interested to see if OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie will show up to camp this weekend or the following weekend.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 10:37 AM
I'd have to agree with you there. I'm interested to see if OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie will show up to camp this weekend or the following weekend.
Fuller has the measureables, but I can't track down any film on him. Wylie is bit far out for me to know much about their football program, much less seen them play.
Armstead and Fuller should both be on campus at the J12. I'm a big fan of side by side comparisons.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 10:48 AM
Fuller has the measureables, but I can't track down any film on him. Wylie is bit far out for me to know much about their football program, much less seen them play.
Armstead and Fuller should both be on campus at the J12. I'm a big fan of side by side comparisons.
I've read and heard stuff about Stacy Searels' attitude when it comes to recruiting for Texas. He's basically of the opinion that there's no excuse for UT to have an inferior OL because of the type of program Texas is along with the loaded in-state talent pool to draw from every year. If he comes to the realization that the talent isn't up to par or strikes out with certain guys (i.e. Starts), then he'll continue to search out-of-state if need be. We saw evidence of that last week when he called on OL/DL DJ Reader of Greensboro, NC. It's very possible that guys like Armstead, Brantley, Myers, etc. get to camp and they aren't what Searels is looking for. We may not see the next OL offer go out for some time if that ends up being the case. It will all depend on how the staff feels with the other big names and how quickly they want to fill these positions. Lots of factors involved.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 11:01 AM
I've read and heard stuff about Stacy Searels' attitude when it comes to recruiting for Texas. He's basically of the opinion that there's no excuse for UT to have an inferior OL because of the type of program Texas is along with the loaded in-state talent pool to draw from every year. If he comes to the realization that the talent isn't up to par or strikes out with certain guys (i.e. Starts), then he'll continue to search out-of-state if need be. We saw evidence of that last week when he called on OL/DL DJ Reader of Greensboro, NC. It's very possible that guys like Armstead, Brantley, Myers, etc. get to camp and they aren't what Searels is looking for. We may not see the next OL offer go out for some time if that ends up being the case. It will all depend on how the staff feels with the other big names and how quickly they want to fill these positions. Lots of factors involved.
Well said Floss. There's no need to fill Starts' spot too quickly. I'm confident that Coach Searels will work through his evaluations, and make the best choice for his offensive line. I love the no excuses approach.
o-line is a big, big key and texas knows that if they want to get back to title games they have to improve that line.
we'll see if sherman can continue to have such great success in getting the aggie offensive line to a top level. of course, it helps to have the matthews family so committed to a&m.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 11:45 AM
o-line is a big, big key and texas knows that if they want to get back to title games they have to improve that line.
we'll see if sherman can continue to have such great success in getting the aggie offensive line to a top level. of course, it helps to have the matthews family so committed to a&m.
It's funny because I actually wasn't a huge fan of the OL in 2009 when UT reached the title game. I felt guys like McCoy and Shipley covered up several weaknesses in that offensive scheme.
This year's OL won't be filled with world beaters by any means, but I think you'll see improvement under the tutelage of Searels and that fact that Texas is replacing both OTs who had downright unacceptable performances last year. Look for sophomore Trey Hopkins to make a name for himself at OT. Improved QB play will also help the confidence of this year's OL, but that's a whole different issue.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 12:33 PM
It's funny because I actually wasn't a huge fan of the OL in 2009 when UT reached the title game. I felt guys like McCoy and Shipley covered up several weaknesses in that offensive scheme.
This year's OL won't be filled with world beaters by any means, but I think you'll see improvement under the tutelage of Searels and that fact that Texas is replacing both OTs who had downright unacceptable performances last year. Look for sophomore Trey Hopkins to make a name for himself at OT. Improved QB play will also help the confidence of this year's OL, but that's a whole different issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong Floss, but Coach Searels has Tray Allen at LT and Trey Hopkins at LG currently?
The interior OL is actually pretty good considering. David Snow should be solid at center and Dom Espinosa should be a good back up. Mason Walters, Ashcraft, Porter and possibly Sedrick Flowers can all contribute inside.
My understanding is that Harsin emphasizes athletic guards who can move. Hopkins and Walters fit the bill.
Ideally, I'd like to see Sedrick Flowers come in and start at LG right away. This would allow Trey Hopkins to move outside to LT, and let Tray Allen move back to super reserve. Like Jason Terry, I think Tray Allen is better coming off the bench.
Flowers is billed as the most college ready guard Texas has recruited in some time. Flowers might be the best guard recruit in the past 5 years.
Greenlea is allegedly well ahead of schedule and almost back from his serious knee injury. If Greenlea is 100% healthy, please let him contribute, but if something is off with the knee, Greenlea should redshirt regardless of need. If healthy, I think Greenlea breaks the 2 deep at RT by OU.
Luke Poehlmann is key. The rehab reports have been very sketchy. Texas needs Poehlmann to back up both the LT and RT spots. One of the most important players for the 2011 season in my opinion. Poehlmann was allegedly the best OL in the 2010 fall camp.
Paden Kelley should flourish at RT, I don't have any concerns there.
I believe Texas will be fine at RT, and the interior spots but the LT problem needs to get solved. I expect Texas OL play to be adequate this season. Credit to the Texas OL for keeping themselves in shape, the DL can't say say the same.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 01:23 PM
Bill-
Pretty sure you're correct at this time. I think the hope is Hopkins moves to LT if Flowers can develop quickly and take over at LG. Either way, Hopkins will make a name for himself.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 05:23 PM
Very surprising news from Longhorn Digest’s Kevin Flaherty (Scout.com affiliate):
@LonghornDigest
Kevin Flaherty
It appears that #Texas is back in it for Crockett WR Dominique Wheeler. He just told me he’s headed to the #UT camp on June 12.
Dear Gawd, I hope this is true.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Very surprising news from Longhorn Digest’s Kevin Flaherty (Scout.com affiliate):
@LonghornDigest
Kevin Flaherty
It appears that #Texas is back in it for Crockett WR Dominique Wheeler. He just told me he’s headed to the #UT camp on June 12.
Dear Gawd, I hope this is true.
I hope he leaves the posse behind this time.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 06:21 PM
OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie will not be attending J5 this weekend. There's no clarification on whether or not June 12th is an option for him, but he did mention he was sad that he was unable to make it because he likes Texas a lot.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 06:23 PM
OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie will not be attending J5 this weekend. There's no clarification on whether or not June 12th is an option for him, but he did mention he was sad that he was unable to make it because he likes Texas a lot.
I hope Fuller makes it down for J12. The more options the better. I still like Armstead to take Starts' spot.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 06:24 PM
I hope he leaves the posse behind this time.
I would like to see this posse and the Wheeler's face t-shirts.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 06:37 PM
I would like to see this posse and the Wheeler's face t-shirts.
They're already on sale at the Co-Op. Have Pop pick one up for you when he's in Austin this weekend.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 06:38 PM
LB Peter Jinkens of Dallas Skyline is now back on for J5. He'll be getting a ride from WR Thomas Johnson. He's one of the more outspoken guys in this class, so I like him being around all of the other commitments and other 2012 prospects instead of being at J12.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 06:54 PM
They're already on sale at the Co-Op. Have Pop pick one up for you when he's in Austin this weekend.
Haha. I'll look for the Wheeler's face t-shirts at the Uptown Dallas Co-Op. I think Wheeler's hair is longer than Troy Polamalu's.
Agreed on Jinkens. The kid has swagger and will chat up the uncommitted players. Is Peter available to stay until the 6th to talk up Texas with Nelson Agholor and Torshiro Davis? Hell, just keep Peter in Austin until after J12.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 07:50 PM
Suchomel just shot down the Wheeler rumor. Suchomel spoke to Wheeler, and he said Texas has not contacted him since Junior Day.
This just in, Scout.com continues to suck.
TFloss32
06-02-2011, 11:19 PM
Suchomel just shot down the Wheeler rumor. Suchomel spoke to Wheeler, and he said Texas has not contacted him since Junior Day.
This just in, Scout.com continues to suck.
Unless Wheeler was told by the staff to keep his visit on the hush and he's flat-out lying about it to other sites, I'd like to know how Flaherty could've screwed that one up so bad after talking to the kid face-to-face.
billfromlaketravis
06-02-2011, 11:51 PM
Unless Wheeler was told by the staff to keep his visit on the hush and he's flat-out lying about it to other sites, I'd like to know how Flaherty could've screwed that one up so bad after talking to the kid face-to-face.
Kind of lame, but a plausible explanation:
@LonghornDigest
Kevin Flaherty
Have to apologize for the earlier Wheeler tweet. Typo in the e-mail. He'll hit TCU this weekend, OSU on the ninth and Tech on the 12th.
DirkDoesWork
06-03-2011, 12:03 AM
Thomas Johnson > Dominique Wheeler - JMO. Wheeler has a Lache Seastrunk feel to him, and I don't want any part of that, as far as I'm concerned.
I love Trey Hopkins. He'll be very good not matter what position he ends up at. Searels is doing a great job so far.
Thomas Johnson > Dominique Wheeler - JMO. Wheeler has a Lache Seastrunk feel to him, and I don't want any part of that, as far as I'm concerned.
I love Trey Hopkins. He'll be very good not matter what position he ends up at. Searels is doing a great job so far.
+1 for everything said!
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 12:14 AM
Thank goodness for Trey Hopkins' growth spurt. If not for a few inches, Texas is without a legitimate LT for another couple years.
Tray Allen could be serviceable, but as a senior he's not the future.
I know Josh Cochran could be a starter at LT for Texas, but Josh is a couple years away.
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 01:27 PM
Theus might make a decision as soon as July. From the Worldwide Leader:
Theus trims list
Earlier this week, ESPNU Watch List member John Theus (Jacksonville, Fla./The Bolles School) narrowed his school list to six — Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame and Texas.
“It was hard because everyone was coming after me,” Theus said. “All the schools that offered me are good and they all have something unique about them. Then you build relationships with all those coaches. So it’s hard to say no to people. Getting to a top six was challenging and to be honest, my original plan was to get it to five but I just couldn’t do it.”
Many feel Georgia is the team to beat considering his brother, Nathan, is about to start his college football career there. But Theus insists he will make the decision that best suits him.
“Everyone thinks I am going to Georgia because of my brother,” Theus said. “Of course I would love to play with him, but we told each other a while ago that we would each makes decisions that were best for us. But I can say that I think the coaching staff there is great. They are football coaches and good guys. I am up there a lot because of my brother, and I love the players, the atmosphere, the school and campus.”
Three other SEC schools are vying for this 6-6, 300-pound offensive tackle prospect.
“Alabama seems like they are always winning,” Theus said. “I went there for the Florida game last year and loved the atmosphere. I want to get back up there for sure. I like what they do at Alabama. I also Skyped with Coach [Nick] Saban for about an hour during the spring. That was really, really cool.”
Theus has not yet seen Arkansas.
“I think a lot of people were surprised that Arkansas made my list,” Theus said. “I first got interested in them when Nathan took an official there. He loved it and said I had to see it. Plus, we have a really good friend there. I love the coaches and they are an up-and-coming program.
“I love the coaches at Florida, especially coach [Will] Muschamp and coach [Charlie] Weis. I really believe that they are going to do a lot of good things. There’s a lot of pro experience on that staff, and I love their teaching and coaching approach.”
Theus also plans on checking out Notre Dame and Texas for the very first time.
“I am visiting Notre Dame in June,” Theus said. “I stay in touch with those coaches a lot. This is Notre Dame, a school with so much prestige. The academics are great, and there’s so much tradition.
“I have known [offensive line coach] Stacy Searels at Texas for a while now and first met him while he was at Georgia. Texas is just a very successful program and I have a lot of respect for them, especially Coach [Mack] Brown.”
The original Theus plan was to commit at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl in January. Now that’s up in the air.
“If I know where I will go then I will commit and not hold back,” Theus said. “It could be as early as July, depending on visits. I plan on seeing Texas and Notre Dame. I want to camp at Georgia and Florida, and I will visit or camp at Alabama. I am not sure on an Arkansas visit, and I may have to wait and take an official visit this fall. The most important thing to me is the coaches. They will be my mentors. The players and atmosphere will be big as well.”
I feel like we have at least a 25% chance.
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 01:38 PM
Theus making an unofficial visit to Texas this summer is a must.
DesignatedT
06-03-2011, 03:19 PM
S Kenneth Marshall has decommitted from Oklahoma State. Huge blow for them. Hopefully he starts to consider A&M strongly, he is a great player. Rumor that he is looking for an OU offer.
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 07:07 PM
Trouble in Paradise?
@MikeCoppage
Mike Coppage
Davante' Bourque (Texas A&M) commit has decided not to attend the Aggies camp this weekend. He's going to camp at LSU Sunday instead.
38 seconds ago via web
ThePop
06-03-2011, 09:22 PM
Trouble in Paradise?
More like another year in aggie recruiting
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 09:26 PM
Interesting article from the AAS: http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/texas-casting-a-wider-net-in-recruiting-1515939.html
billfromlaketravis
06-03-2011, 09:28 PM
More like another year in aggie recruiting
Haha. Painfully true for the Aggie fanbase.
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 09:19 AM
TFloss, J5 is upon us, any interesting news?
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 11:37 AM
TFloss, J5 is upon us, any interesting news?
Bill-
Nothing yet. The only thing worth mentioning is WR Cayleb Jones is not at camp due to family obligations (no word if he'll attend next weekend), DB Bryson Echols is coming for J12 with the younger DeSoto boys and QB Connor Brewer was recently invited to the Elite 11 camp. Lots of guys including RB Johnathan Gray arrived in Austin last night. I'm working on the final attendance list right now.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 11:42 AM
Oh yeah...DE Jamal Palmer of McKinney Boyd will not be in attendance. He's moving to J12 as well.
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 11:46 AM
Bill-
Nothing yet. The only thing worth mentioning is WR Cayleb Jones is not at camp due to family obligations (no word if he'll attend next weekend), DB Bryson Echols is coming for J12 with the younger DeSoto boys and QB Connor Brewer was recently invited to the Elite 11 camp. Lots of guys including RB Johnathan Gray arrived in Austin last night. I'm working on the final attendance list right now.
Good for Connor. I like his work ethic, it seems like Connor is at every camp or combine in the Western United States.
I wish Cayleb could make J5. I understand that Cayleb, Johnathan and Connor have been recruiting Estelle. Oh well, Johnathan and Connor can work on Kennedy today.
The J12 list continues to grow with Echols and Jamal Palmer.
Thanks TFloss. I am looking forward to the attendee list.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 12:03 PM
Here's the most updated attendance list for J5 as of about ten minutes ago:
2012 Commitments
QB, Connor Brewer, Chaparral (Scottsdale, AZ)
RB, Johnathan Gray, Aledo
WR, Thomas Johnson, Dallas Skyline
OL, Camrhon Hughes, Killeen Harker Heights
OL, Curtis Riser, DeSoto
DT, Paul Boyette, Jr., Humble
DT, Alex Norman, Dallas Bishop Dunne
DE, Caleb Bluiett, Beaumont West Brook
DE, Hassan Ridgeway, Mansfield
LB, Alex De La Torre, Denton Ryan
LB, Peter Jinkens, Dallas Skyline
ATH, Orlando "Duke" Thomas, Copperas Cove
2012 Prospects
OL, Greg Brantley, Carthage
OL, Kennedy Estelle, Pearland Dawson
OL, Seaver Myers, Friendswood
DE, Torshiro Davis, Woodlawn (Shreveport, LA) **will be in Austin on Monday and Tuesday
DB, Tyler Chapa, San Antonio Warren
DB, Nick Coleman, San Antonio East Central
DB, Jalen Mills, DeSoto
DB, Justin Thomas, West Orange-Stark
DB, Kevin Vaccaro, Brownwood
ATH, Nelson Agholor, Berkeley Prep (Tampa, FL) **will be in Austin on Tuesday
2013 Prospects
QB, Chris Johnson, Bryan
RB, Jabari Anderson, Wylie East
RB, Chris Armstrong, San Antonio East Central
WR, Dannon Cavil, Austin Lake Travis
OL/DL, Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights
OL, Jake Raulerson, Celina
DT, Chris Robinson, Woodlawn (Shreveport, LA) **will be in Austin on Monday and Tuesday
DT, Ben Hughes, Waco University
DB, Matt Coleman, San Antonio East Central
DB, Austin Collins, Navasota
DB, Antwuan Davis, Bastrop
DB, Austin Jupe, San Antonio East Central
ATH, Naashon Hughes, Killeen Harker Heights
ATH, Solomon McGinty, Navasota
2014 Prospects
WR, Keyon Dilosa, Round Rock
LB, James David, Rockdale
DB, Preston Brown, Round Rock
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 12:31 PM
Here's the most updated attendance list for J5 as of about ten minutes ago:
2012 Commitments
QB, Connor Brewer, Chaparral (Scottsdale, AZ)
RB, Johnathan Gray, Aledo
WR, Thomas Johnson, Dallas Skyline
OL, Camrhon Hughes, Killeen Harker Heights
OL, Curtis Riser, DeSoto
DT, Paul Boyette, Jr., Humble
DT, Malcom Brown, Brenham
DT, Alex Norman, Dallas Bishop Dunne
DE, Caleb Bluiett, Beaumont West Brook
DE, Hassan Ridgeway, Mansfield
LB, Tim Cole, Brenham
LB, Alex De La Torre, Denton Ryan
LB, Peter Jinkens, Dallas Skyline
ATH, Orlando "Duke" Thomas, Copperas Cove
2012 Prospects
OL, Greg Brantley, Carthage
OL, Kennedy Estelle, Pearland Dawson
OL, Seaver Myers, Friendswood
DE, Torshiro Davis, Woodlawn (Shreveport, LA) **will be in Austin on Monday and Tuesday
DB, Tyler Chapa, San Antonio Warren
DB, Nick Coleman, San Antonio East Central
DB, Jalen Mills, DeSoto
DB, Justin Thomas, West Orange-Stark
DB, Kevin Vaccaro, Brownwood
ATH, Nelson Agholor, Berkeley Prep (Tampa, FL) **will be in Austin on Tuesday
2013 Prospects
QB, Chris Johnson, Bryan
RB, Jabari Anderson, Wylie East
RB, Chris Armstrong, San Antonio East Central
WR, Dannon Cavil, Austin Lake Travis
OL/DL, Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights
OL, Jake Raulerson, Celina
DT, Chris Robinson, Woodlawn (Shreveport, LA) **will be in Austin on Monday and Tuesday
DT, Ben Hughes, Waco University
DB, Matt Coleman, San Antonio East Central
DB, Austin Collins, Navasota
DB, Antwuan Davis, Bastrop
DB, Austin Jupe, San Antonio East Central
ATH, Naashon Hughes, Killeen Harker Heights
ATH, Solomon McGinty, Navasota
2014 Prospects
WR, Keyon Dilosa, Round Rock
LB, James David, Rockdale
DB, Preston Brown, Round Rock
Nice, I like Torshiro spending two days in Austin with his teammate and 2013 target Chris Robinson. I also like Torshiro and Agholor possibly being in Austin at the same time.
That's the first time I've even heard Tyler Chapa's name. Way to be thorough Duane, but Chapa doesn't hold any offers.
The 2013 names are pretty impressive.
You have to think Chris Johnson is at best a Plan B behind Tyrone Swoopes and Kohl Stewart, but credit to the young man for making a camp.
Cavil is pretty interesting. I think he's Texas good and of course a legacy. Could be a potential Junior Day offer.
Good to hear that Darius James and Raulerson will be at the same camp. Hopefully those two get paired up in drills and Searels can have a better idea of their abilities.
There seems to be a lot of talent in Navasota for 2013. Aggie considers Navasota their backyard, so it'll be interesting to see if some head to head battles occur. I like Texas going into Aggie honey holes Navasota and Humble.
Ben Hughes is probably a top 20 player in Texas, but he's probably the 4th or 5th best DT in state. Wow the 2013 DT depth in Texas i is amazing.
TFloss any idea what Texas is looking to do at RB in 2013? James White seems to be the number 1 target right now, but Texas two RBs and who that second running back might be is a point of debate. The 247 crew has been talking up Katy's Adam Taylor as the possible second back.
I like Dontre Wilson a lot, but I have to agree he's probably best suited for Ramonce Taylor type roll than an every down back.
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 12:34 PM
I'd add that I like James David quite a bit. Seems to have the size and talent of his brother. Hopefully James doesn't share Derek's criminal behavior and lack of intelligence. One would think that James has learned a great deal from watching his older brother's football dreams fall apart.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 12:36 PM
Sucky update on WR Dorial Green-Beckham:
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/06/05/bad-news-tidbit-on-dgb/comment-page-1/#comment-108682
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 02:30 PM
The boys from Brenham will be in for J12 as well. I took them off of the list.
ThePop
06-05-2011, 02:33 PM
Sucky update on WR Dorial Green-Beckham:
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/06/05/bad-news-tidbit-on-dgb/comment-page-1/#comment-108682
I think it's time to really improve our secondary.
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 02:40 PM
The boys from Brenham will be in for J12 as well. I took them off of the list.
J12 is getting bigger every day.
ThePop
06-05-2011, 04:13 PM
Word around the internet (twitter) is Estelle has committed. Let's see if it's confirmed by one of the major websites.
Edit: It's confirmed by Orangebloods.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 05:43 PM
Word around the internet (twitter) is Estelle has committed. Let's see if it's confirmed by one of the major websites.
Edit: It's confirmed by Orangebloods.
Great news. I wonder if mama Estelle finally put her foot down on those out-of-state visits. Just felt like he'd never make those trips.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 07:23 PM
A huge curveball today...per Hook 'Em 24/7, ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale followed up on his invitation to J5 and did make it campus today where the staff officially offered him a scholarship. There's not any specific information right now as to what position he's being offered for, but Darrell Wyatt has been working his ass off since around Easter to make this one happen. His father mentioned Texas is a school he's always dreamed of playing for since he was a little kid. Brooks has maintained that he wouldn't look at the Longhorns without an offer in place, so we'll see if he ends up switching to the good guys before all is said and done now that an offer has come his way.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 07:50 PM
It's worth noting that DB Justin Thomas of West Orange-Stark did not make it to Austin today because his ride fell through. He should be at J12 next weekend with the 2013 recruits from his school.
DesignatedT
06-05-2011, 08:30 PM
Trouble in Paradise?
@MikeCoppage
Mike Coppage
Davante' Bourque (Texas A&M) commit has decided not to attend the Aggies camp this weekend. He's going to camp at LSU Sunday instead.
38 seconds ago via web
More like another year in aggie recruiting
Haha. Painfully true for the Aggie fanbase.
Well it actually looks like Borque showed up at A&M today instead of LSU
TexAgs TexAgs.com
Bourque's commitment staying strong to the Ags - Video interview | TexAgs v4.texags.com/Stories/2276 via @texags
So much for that.
TFloss32
06-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Designated T-
I'll add to that. 2013 QB Kohl Stewart of Houston St. Pius X was offered by Texas A&M today. He was also offered by Ole Miss earlier in the week. I'd say he's likely going to commit to the Ags later on down the road should he decide to not make baseball his future. He has family ties to A&M so they will have a leg up on everyone else.
billfromlaketravis
06-05-2011, 11:08 PM
I go to a graduation, and Kennedy Estelle pulls the trigger for Texas. Excellent news. The linchpin, the foundation, the cornerstone, whatever, Estelle is huge get by any description.
The OU folks seem to think that Daniel Brooks is all but gone. Stoops has a similar policy as Mack, visit another school and your scholarship is off the table. The Texas staff must like their chance with Brooks better than Sanders, they feel that Brooks will actually end up at corner, or they feel that Brooks will be a better corner.
There were some assumptions that there was a true ATH spot in the class, and it obviously exists with an offer going out to Brooks. Credit to Brooks and his father for defying Stoops and attending J5. High risk, high reward.
With an offer to Brooks, in addition to the pursuit of Agholor, Smith and Collins, it's reasonable to think that any possibility of Justin Thomas to Texas is over unless something changes. Colin Blake should be next in line for a Texas offer if it doesn't work out with any of the OOS DBs.
I'm very happy that Brantley and Seaver Myers, especially Myers weren't offered today. Coach Searels is showing the patience and diligence that Other Mac so sorely lacked.
One would think that Armstead will need to have an excellent J12 to get a Texas offer. Armstead has athleticism in spades, but he's a project. With Estelle in the fold, I'd be ok with Texas waiting out Peat and Theus.
TFloss how many more DBs will Texas take in this class? How many more OTs? If Texas wants to take 2 more OTs, offer Armstead.
Danielle Hunter and Tre'von Armstead, if you want a Texas offer, you better make it J12.
shyne
06-05-2011, 11:17 PM
Well its obvious that Kendall Sanders does not want to play DB now. Brooks in a hell of an athlete, but I'm not sold on him at corner. I sure hope we can land Geno Smith.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 10:33 AM
Here's a recap of the weekend with everything I can think of:
*OL Kennedy Estelle of Pearland Dawson is officially #17...finally! Sure enough being around QB Connor Brewer and some of the other commitments gave him that nudge he needed to go ahead and pull the trigger. Sounds like the 2012 class is filled with guys who are going all out to recruit for UT. Speaking of which, UT now has NINE players participating in the 2012 Under Armour All-American Game; that's a lot of recruiting firepower. Estelle and his father had the opportunity to meet with Mack Brown, Sally Brown, Major Applewhite and Stacy Searels for a conversation before heading home to Pearland. Interestingly enough, Estelle has made no mention of those out-of-state trips (that he wanted to take so badly) since he committed. See some quotes from him below:
"I committed," Estelle said prior to leaving campus. "I made my decision today as I was going through and having fun. That's when I made my decision."
"Being with all the players and around the coaches and the running backs - we have two of the best running backs in the country - and a good quarterback coming," Estelle said when asked what made him commit on Sunday. "We're going to be a championship team."
Brewer had a nice tweet after the camp:
"Long day at #UT camp! Got another #longhorn congrats Kennedy estelle! Were gunna have a great class"
*ATH Daniel Brooks is the latest prospect to receive an offer from UT. He decided to make the drive to campus yesterday morning but didn't work out with the other prospects. Bob Stoops is much like Mack Brown in the sense that he's intolerant of committed players making visits to other schools, so we'll see if he decides to pull his offer somewhere down the road. I believe Brooks has an unofficial visit to Norman scheduled for this upcoming weekend, so it'll be interesting to see if he makes the trip now that he's likely rubbed the OU staff the wrong way. Brooks' father mentioned that UT has always been Daniel's dream school, but UT has a lot of catching up to do in his recruitment because the family is very comfortable with what OU has to offer. The Brooks family has yet to meet with the UT staff and I imagine momentum will start to shift in Texas' direction once that happens. FWIW...I think Brooks ends up switching to UT regardless of what OU decides to do. Stoops may make this an easy decision for him.
Now, does this offer have any bearing on what the staff thinks of ATH Kendall Sanders? I could be completely wrong, but I don't think an offer to Brooks is a total reflection of Sanders' current situation. We all know the staff wants Sanders at DB and thinks he has a million dollar future at that position. They also think he's good enough to play WR at Texas but it's possible he's buried on the depth chart trying to get touches over more pure WRs like Jaxon Shipley, Cayleb Jones, Thomas Johnson, etc. The staff may have offered Brooks hoping that he eventually lands at DB, but I think they offered him with the idea that he can be a true utility guy on the offensive side of the ball as well as on special teams. They may think he has more potential in that area and that's why he got the offer instead of Sanders. With that said, I still think UT takes Sanders if he comes around on the idea of playing DB.
*2013 OL Jake Raulerson of Celina was likely the camp MVP yesterday if they were to give out an award. To tell you what kind of competitor this kid is, he came to J5 purposely with the intent of competing against the older guys and using that as a measuring stick in his own development. He worked both sides of the ball yesterday and apparently more than held his own. Even Mack Brown came over to the group and asked if anyone was going to stop this guy. The only prospect that was able to hold him on either side of the ball was 2013 OL/DL Darius James of Killeen Harker Heights. The staff's mancrush on Raulerson has reached new heights and they told him he could play on either side of the ball at Texas. You can pencil him in for an offer at the first Junior Day next February. Searels will do everything he can to keep him on the offensive side of the ball, but he could end up making one great defensive lineman. Here's a quote from Raulerson about the camp:
"All I have to say is that it's Texas. I love Texas. I love the coaches. I love the environment."
Raulerson's family moved to Texas a while back after living in Gainseville, FL. There are family ties to the University of Florida, but it's worth mentioning that his father was all decked out in UT gear yesterday.
*Some other names worth mentioning are 2013 DB Antwuan Davis of Bastrop (just transferred from Del Valle) and 2013 WR Chevoski Collins of Livingston. Davis will be an important recruit for the next class as he has the ideal size for a DB that the coaching staff is looking for (he's about 6'0"/180 right now) and he was either the fastest or second fastest prospect at the camp yesterday. He also performed really well in 1 on 1s and he's a name that the older guys kept mentioning throughout the day. I like that he's transferred to Bastrop as he could help in the recruitment of 2013 LB Paul Whitmill. Collins was a guy that got Darrell Wyatt all hyped up because of his speed and quickness off of the line. He was apparently making all of the DBs look silly yesterday. Make a mental note of both of those guys.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 10:45 AM
More stuff that's relevant to the upcoming J12 camp:
*WR Derrick Griffin of Rosenberg Terry may not camp at Texas after all due to basketball obligations. In fact, he may not make a football camp at all this summer. I'm sure we'll know more about his plans as the week goes on. I'm not getting my hopes up on Griffin because I think he ends up going straight basketball.
*DT Ben Hughes of Waco University was not in attendance this weekend because of family plans, but he wil be at J12 and he'll remain in Austin until the following Wednesday to participate in UT's overnight camp. DT A'Shawn Robinson of FW Arlington Heights will be doing the same thing. Robinson is another guy, along with Raulerson, who I think gets a first Junior Day offer.
*WR Jake Oliver of Dallas Jesuit is another big confirmation for J12. Kid is almost up to double digit offers as a sophomore with Michigan being the latest enter the picture. He's an Aggie legacy so the staff will have a recruiting battle on their hands.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 10:49 AM
Just a quick reminder that DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA will be on campus today and Tuesday. ATH Nelson Agholor of Tampa, FL will also be in town on Tuesday. Definitely an important recruiting week.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 11:27 AM
*DB Justin Thomas is scheduled to make the trip to Austin for J12 with fellow West Orange-Stark teammates, 2013 DB Colin Jance and 2013 LB Travon Blanchard.
*Forgot to mention that DE Caleb Bluiett of Beaumont West Brook worked out at TE a little bit yesterday. The staff loves his versatility and soft hands. Being a baseball player as well, he has a few skills that the other big guys don't possess.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 11:40 AM
Badass picture from camp yesterday.
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/549/32549/144477.jpg
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 12:22 PM
Here's a recap of the weekend with everything I can think of:
*OL Kennedy Estelle of Pearland Dawson is officially #17...finally! Sure enough being around QB Connor Brewer and some of the other commitments gave him that nudge he needed to go ahead and pull the trigger. Sounds like the 2012 class is filled with guys who are going all out to recruit for UT. Speaking of which, UT now has nine players participating in the 2012 Under Armour All-American Game; that's a lot of recruiting firepower. Estelle and his father had the opportunity to meet with Mack Brown, Sally Brown, Major Applewhite and Stacy Searels for a conversation before heading home to Pearland. Interestingly enough, Estelle has made no mention of those out-of-state trips (that he wanted to take so badly) since he committed. See some quotes from him below:
"I committed," Estelle said prior to leaving campus. "I made my decision today as I was going through and having fun. That's when I made my decision."
"Being with all the players and around the coaches and the running backs - we have two of the best running backs in the country - and a good quarterback coming," Estelle said when asked what made him commit on Sunday. "We're going to be a championship team."
Brewer had a nice tweet after the camp:
"Long day at #UT camp! Got another #longhorn congrats Kennedy estelle! Were gunna have a great class"
*ATH Daniel Brooks is the latest prospect to receive an offer from UT. He decided to make the drive to campus yesterday morning but didn't work out with the other prospects. Bob Stoops is much like Mack Brown in the sense that he's intolerant of committed players making visits to other schools, so we'll see if he decides to pull his offer somewhere down the road. I believe Brooks has an unofficial visit to Norman scheduled for this upcoming weekend, so it'll be interesting to see if he makes the trip now that he's likely rubbed the OU staff the wrong way. Brooks' father mentioned that UT has always been Daniel's dream school, but UT has a lot of catching up to do in his recruitment because the family is very comfortable with what OU has to offer. The Brooks family has yet to meet with the UT staff and I imagine momentum will start to shift in Texas' direction once that happens. FWIW...I think Brooks ends up switching to UT regardless of what OU decides to do. Stoops may make this an easy decision for him.
Now, does this offer have any bearing on what the staff thinks of ATH Kendall Sanders? I could be completely wrong, but I don't think an offer to Brooks is a total reflection of Sanders' current situation. We all know the staff wants Sanders at DB and thinks he has a million dollar future at that position. They also think he's good enough to play WR at Texas but it's possible he's buried on the depth chart trying to get touches over more pure WRs like Jaxon Shipley, Cayleb Jones, Thomas Johnson, etc. The staff may have offered Brooks hoping that he eventually lands at DB, but I think they offered him with the idea that he can be a true utility guy on the offensive side of the ball as well as on special teams. They may think he has more potential in that area and that's why he got the offer instead of Sanders. With that said, I still think UT takes Sanders if he comes around on the idea of playing DB.
*2013 OL Jake Raulerson of Celina was likely the camp MVP yesterday if they were to give out an award. To tell you what kind of competitor this kid is, he came to J5 purposely with the intent of competing against the older guys and using that as a measuring stick in his own development. He worked both sides of the ball yesterday and apparently more than held his own. Even Mack Brown came over to the group and asked if anyone was going to stop this guy. The only prospect that was able to hold him on either side of the ball was 2013 OL/DL Darius James of Killeen Harker Heights. The staff's mancrush on Raulerson has reached new heights and they told him he could play on either side of the ball at Texas. You can pencil him in for an offer at the first Junior Day next February. Searels will do everything he can to keep him on the offensive side of the ball, but he could end up making one great defensive lineman. Here's a quote from Raulerson about the camp:
"All I have to say is that it's Texas. I love Texas. I love the coaches. I love the environment."
Raulerson's family moved to Texas a while back after living in Gainseville, FL. There are family ties to the University of Florida, but it's worth mentioning that his father was all decked out in UT gear yesterday.
*Some other names worth mentioning are 2013 DB Antwuan Davis of Bastrop (just transferred from Del Valle) and 2013 WR Chevoski Collins of Livingston. Davis will be an important recruit for the next class as he has the ideal size for a DB that the coaching staff is looking for (he's about 6'0"/180 right now) and he was either the fastest or second fastest prospect at the camp yesterday. He also performed really well in 1 on 1s and he's a name that the older guys kept mentioning throughout the day. I like that he's transferred to Bastrop as he could help in the recruitment of 2013 LB Paul Whitmill. Collins was a guy that got Darrell Wyatt all hyped up because of his speed and quickness off of the line. He was apparently making all of the DBs look silly yesterday. Make a mental note of both of those guys.
Very nice TFloss. The Monday morning write up is about as thorough as an airport pat down.
The combination of Connor Brewer and Sally "The Closer" Brown was simply too much for Estelle. It makes me feel better about Texas and Peat with Connor Brewer working on Andrus from his end. If football doesn't work out for Connor he could always be the next Tim Brewster. I really like Estelle's quotes, it sounds like J5 removed all doubt.
Again welcome to 40 Acres Kennedy. Get ready for immediate playing time.
Brooks offer makes you wonder how many DB spots there are. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during Wyatt and Akina's strategy sessions. I think Brooks commits to Texas soon and plays the position with the greatest need.
Raulerson sounds damn impressive. I'm not surprised at all that he outperformed the 2012 players and gave Darius James a run for his money. The talent and competitive nature have always been there with Raulerson, you just pray the weight comes and he fills out well.
Antwuan Daivs and Paul Whitmill, I'm pretty sure TexAgs has already dubbed them the Bastrop Brothers. They love their nicknames over there. Davis should be a priority at DB along with Will Barrows and of course Marcell Harris. Whitmill is quietly becoming the best linebacker in Texas for 2013. Should be a big time priority for Texas as Bastrop is 30 minutes from Austin. The depth at LB is pretty good in 2013, but there's a drop off after Whitmill.
Chevoski Collins is on the all name and game list. You wonder what Texas does at WR next year given the current numbers. I'd assume Texas won't take more than 3 WRs next year. Collins or Ra'Shaad Samples could be the slot receiver, while Gary Moore and possibly Dannon Cavil or Prentavious Moorehead could be the outside receivers. Love Gary Moore's frame and the film is very good.
Some might decry Cavil as another Lake Travis softie, but the kid can play. Excellent film and an ideal frame. A Cavil offer at one of the junior days wouldn't surprise me. Cavil is Kwame Cavil's nephew. Legacy.
I'm none too impressed with Jake Oliver. Don't get me wrong, the stats and film are impressive, but Oliver's speed is a concern. Rivals lists his 40 time at 4.7. Ouch. I hope Oliver works hard with a speed coach this summer. Hell you can't walk around Frisco without tripping over one.
Derrick Griffin is sounding decidedly more basketball than football right now. If Griffin doesn't attend a single football camp this summer, it makes you wonder if his heart is even in football. Unlike Seals Jones, Griffin could be dominant in both sports. Regardless I hope Griffin comes to Texas.
Good to hear that Justin Thomas is still coming to J12, even after the Brooks offer. Thomas likely needs a jaw dropping performance at J12 to warrant further consideration from Texas.
Colin Jance is afflicted with great talent and lack of height that afflicts so many West Orange Stark DBs. Jance's game is going to have to do the talking, because his frame won't.
Aggie loves Ben Hughes as a 3-4 NT. While I would love to see Texas dash Aggie's NT hopes, again, there are better DTs in front of Hughes.
The red carpet should be out for Torshiro Davis and Agholor. Again, great news that Davis is spending 2 days in Austin. Bo Davis can make up a lot of ground in 2 days. I don't think Davis will commit to Texas on Tuesday, but it's certainly plausible. Credit to Mack for pursuing committed players. Thank goodness for outside consultants.
The Agholor quotes after his visit will be fascinating. You'd like to Agholor leave Austin with Texas in his top 3. Over at the 'Cosm there's been some talk of the staff quietly gaining confidence on Agholor. Let's hope that's accurate.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 12:24 PM
Badass picture from camp yesterday.
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/549/32549/144477.jpg
Agreed. This picture is bad ass. Jinkens continues to rock the star socks given to him by Anthony Wallace. Awesome.
shyne
06-06-2011, 12:30 PM
Do you guys think if we offered Brooks as an athlete and not a CB, that the staff feels pretty good about Geno Smith or maybe they have their sights set on Justin Thomas since they know he will commit no questions asked.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 12:41 PM
Do you guys think if we offered Brooks as an athlete and not a CB, that the staff feels pretty good about Geno Smith or maybe they have their sights set on Justin Thomas since they know he will commit no questions asked.
Shayne that's the million dollar question. I think the first big test on Brooks will be if Stoops pulls his offer this week, and if Brooks makes the scheduled unofficial visit to OU this weekend. Rockdale is about an hour from Austin. I think Texas is in the driver's seat on this one. The resident OU expert at the 'Cosm thinks OU will offer Justin Thomas very quickly if Brooks commits to Texas. The general consensus on Thomas is that he is waiting out an offer from Texas, LSU or OU and the first to offer will get his commitment.
Geno Smith could be had. Smith has shown very little interest in staying in or near Georgia. My biggest concern with Smith is Auburn. Smith's close friend Josh Holsey committed to Auburn recently, and yes Smith did make the Big Cat Weekend. As always with OOS recruits, get them on campus and see what happens.
shyne
06-06-2011, 12:52 PM
Ya I hear you. I just read the chat transcript with Geno Smith on Rivals and he's made it clear he wants out of the state of Georgia. I will be pissed if Justin Thomas ends up at Oklahoma that kid is a straight badass.
I'm pretty sure Brooks is ours, and I wouldnt want to make a trip all the way to Norman knowing that a pissed off Stoops is waiting for me, especially if he already has an offer in hand.
I just hope we can get one of these badass corners, really hoping for Sanders but thats my personal opinion.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 01:14 PM
Ya I hear you. I just read the chat transcript with Geno Smith on Rivals and he's made it clear he wants out of the state of Georgia. I will be pissed if Justin Thomas ends up at Oklahoma that kid is a straight badass.
I'm pretty sure Brooks is ours, and I wouldnt want to make a trip all the way to Norman knowing that a pissed off Stoops is waiting for me, especially if he already has an offer in hand.
I just hope we can get one of these badass corners, really hoping for Sanders but thats my personal opinion.
The 'Cosm staff keeps saying that Sanders will be offered if he agrees to play DB. It seems like a staring contest between Texas and Sanders right now. Recruits seem to be more and more stubborn these days, see Starts, Michael. I think Sanders has it set in his mind that he's a WR, period end of sentence.
I don't think Texas should move on, but I don't see the validity in diverting time and resources away from other targets to stay in Sanders' good graces.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 02:17 PM
For those that are a little down about OL Andrus Peat not making J5, here are some encouraging quotes from QB Connor Brewer about he and Peat's relationship courtesy of Hook 'Em 24/7. Sounds like Peat is working on getting to Austin by the end of June.
“I talk with him three or four times per week on average and I try and talk with him daily,” Brewer said. “I think he really likes Texas. He couldn't make it down this time but he's looking at getting here before the end of the month."
“If he makes it down I think we've got a good chance to get him,” Brewer added. “I know we're probably going to take one more tackle and I know the coaches like him a lot.”
“When Texas started recruiting me that was one of my concerns because you hear that you'll be treated differently if you're not from Texas, but that assumption isn't the case at all,” Brewer said. “Since I first came down here everyone has been so nice and nobody has said anything about me being from Arizona. I tell Andrus that Texas is a good place. I don't think any out of state player can have a bad experience at Texas because of the place it is and how they treat you.”
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 02:24 PM
For those that are a little down about OL Andrus Peat not making J5, here are some encouraging quotes from QB Connor Brewer about he and Peat's relationship courtesy of 24/7 Hook 'Em. Sounds like Peat is working on getting to Austin by the end of June.
“I talk with him three or four times per week on average and I try and talk with him daily,” Brewer said. “I think he really likes Texas. He couldn't make it down this time but he's looking at getting here before the end of the month."
“If he makes it down I think we've got a good chance to get him,” Brewer added. “I know we're probably going to take one more tackle and I know the coaches like him a lot.”
“When Texas started recruiting me that was one of my concerns because you hear that you'll be treated differently if you're not from Texas, but that assumption isn't the case at all,” Brewer said. “Since I first came down here everyone has been so nice and nobody has said anything about me being from Arizona. I tell Andrus that Texas is a good place. I don't think any out of state player can have a bad experience at Texas because of the place it is and how they treat you.”
Good stuff TFloss. If Peat makes it down in June, the quotes post visit should be interesting. Haven't heard much about Texas directly from Peat or his father. It seems like all the positive Texas quotes have come from Peat's head coach.
DesignatedT
06-06-2011, 03:01 PM
Van LB Dalton Santos has reportedly decommitted from Oklahoma State as well joining Kenneth Marshall in that regard. 2 big blows for OSU.
Didn't see it posted anywhere.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 03:03 PM
Ketch's thoughts from J5. Free article : http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1228762
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 03:11 PM
TFloss any idea what Texas is looking to do at RB in 2013? James White seems to be the number 1 target right now, but Texas two RBs and who that second running back might be is a point of debate. The 247 crew has been talking up Katy's Adam Taylor as the possible second back.
Bill-
Sorry I took a while to get to these questions. You're a smart guy and probably know as much as I do when it comes to these scenarios. The fact that Texas just offered ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale because of his multi-faceted game and RB DJ Monroe being the name that Harsin/Applewhite have mentioned multiple times this offseason tells me that RB Dontre Wilson will be getting an offer in February. He's capable of doing mutiple things for a football team and he's a DeSoto product. Those guys come out of the birth canal flashing the "Hook 'Em."
As far as a pure RB, I'm confident saying RB James White of Pearland Dawson is #1 on the recruiting board right now and the staff surely scored some points yesterday with the commitment of OL Kennedy Estelle, but you never know who will pop on the scene at any given time (much like RB Trey Williams did last summer). I take comfort in the fact Major Applewhite lives to evaluate and Bryan Harsin knows what he wants for his offense, so you can be assured that they will have covered everyone once it comes to time to make an offer.
TFloss how many more DBs will Texas take in this class? How many more OTs? If Texas wants to take 2 more OTs, offer Armstead.
I don't think there's a definitive answer for either position because the staff's course of action will depend on the decisions of certain prospects. For example, we all knew that the staff was targeting one QB and one RB for the 2012 class; nothing more and nothing less. Once they got commitments from their targets, things were shut down at those respective positions. It was pretty clear cut. For OL and DB, timing will obviously be a huge factor in determining what the numbers look like in the end.
To elaborate...I think this weekend is big for the OL. If OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial shows up to J12 like he plans, it's very possible he gets offered. He's been the Michael Starts back-up plan for a few weeks now. If he gets offered and farts around for a while or ends up being a no-show this weekend, the staff could say "screw it" and decide to go balls out for OL Andrus Peat and OL John Theus until the very end hoping that they land one of the two. If they're getting negative vibes by the time the season starts then they can revisit the lower hanging fruit at that time. What happens with Armstead will determine the final number on the OL, IMO. I don't think Searels likes Brantley or Myers enough to offer. More contact with a guy like OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie could really change things as well, but he'll hurt his chances if he doesn't make it to campus this summer.
For the DBs, I think UT is looking for two more. If you get a commitment from a guy like DB Geno Smith before the season starts, that number could change. Another scenario is UT misses on Smith, offers DB Justin Thomas and he commits on the spot. What if ATH Kendall Sanders finally comes around on the idea of playing DB and wants to punch his ticket as well? Are you going to tell him no? That's two right there. What if ATH Nelson Agholor is still on the table at that time? You simply can't stop recruiting a game-changing five-star like that. If by some divine intervention he picks Texas, that bumps you up to three. I know I'm rambling but as you can see it can go about umpteen different ways right now as every prospect has their own timetable and decisions to make which will ultimately affect everyone else (see Westerman vs. Hegarty, 2011).
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 03:14 PM
Van LB Dalton Santos has reportedly decommitted from Oklahoma State as well joining Kenneth Marshall in that regard. 2 big blows for OSU.
Didn't see it posted anywhere.
Another gut punch to Okie State. I count three decommits in Addison, Santos and Marshall. I'd trade DLT for Santos in a heart beat, but Texas' interest would depend on a decommitment or attrition at linebacker. Patrick Nkwopara is buried on the depth chart, it would behoove Patrick to transfer. Maybe Texas gets in on Santos at that point. Steve Edmond followed by Dalton Santos at MLB would be nasty. Thumpers.
I think Santos ends up at Alabama, and Marshall ends up at Aggie unless OU gets involved. Marshall has sitting on an OU offer for years.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 03:17 PM
Van LB Dalton Santos has reportedly decommitted from Oklahoma State as well joining Kenneth Marshall in that regard. 2 big blows for OSU.
Didn't see it posted anywhere.
Yep. I think Santos had his eyes set on A&M until the SEC schools came calling. He was offered by Alabama a few weeks ago and has a tour of the Southeast set up this summer. Look for him to pick a school in that area of the country.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 03:26 PM
I don't think Texas should move on, but I don't see the validity in diverting time and resources away from other targets to stay in Sanders' good graces.
I want Sanders as badly as the next guy because I think he's a special prospect. I agree that Texas should stay in the hunt, but they shouldn't blink an eye when it comes to what they're offering him (a chance to play at DB U). If Duane Akina says you have all the makings of a stud DB on the collegiate level, you should probably listen to the man even if your heart is set on playing WR. If UT ends up having to pass on Sanders in the end, I'm ok with that even though I like him a lot because Mack Brown can't and won't let these kids dictate depth chart decisions to him. Everything is right in this recruitment except for Sanders' desire to play WR. There's a mutual love between both parties and everyone wants Sanders at UT. I believe the ball has been in his court for quite some time now and hopefully he'll come around before it's too late.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 03:54 PM
Bill-
Sorry I took a while to get to these questions. You're a smart guy and probably know as much as I do when it comes to these scenarios. The fact that Texas just offered ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale because of his multi-faceted game and RB DJ Monroe being the name that Harsin/Applewhite have mentioned multiple times this offseason tells me that RB Dontre Wilson will be getting an offer in February. He's capable of doing mutiple things for a football team and he's a DeSoto product. Those guys come out of the birth canal flashing the "Hook 'Em."
As far as a pure RB, I'm confident saying RB James White of Pearland Dawson is #1 on the recruiting board right now and the staff surely scored some points yesterday with the commitment of OL Kennedy Estelle, but you never know who will pop on the scene at any given time (much like RB Trey Williams did last summer). I take comfort in the fact Major Applewhite lives to evaluate and Bryan Harsin knows what he wants for his offense, so you can be assured that they will have covered everyone once it comes to time to make an offer.
I don't think there's a definitive answer for either position because the staff's course of action will depend on the decisions of certain prospects. For example, we all knew that the staff was targeting one QB and one RB for the 2012 class; nothing more and nothing less. Once they got commitments from their targets, things were shut down at those respective positions. It was pretty clear cut. For OL and DB, timing will obviously be a huge factor in determining what the numbers look like in the end.
To elaborate...I think this weekend is big for the OL. If OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial shows up to J12 like he plans, it's very possible he gets offered. He's been the Michael Starts back-up plan for a few weeks now. If he gets offered and farts around for a while or ends up being a no-show this weekend, the staff could say "screw it" and decide to go balls out for OL Andrus Peat and OL John Theus until the very end hoping that they land one of the two. If they're getting negative vibes by the time the season starts then they can revisit the lower hanging fruit at that time. What happens with Armstead will determine the final number on the OL, IMO. I don't think Searels likes Brantley or Myers enough to offer. More contact with a guy like OL Kyle Fuller of Wylie could really change things as well, but he'll hurt his chances if he doesn't make it to campus this summer.
For the DBs, I think UT is looking for two more. If you get a commitment from a guy like DB Geno Smith before the season starts, that number could change. Another scenario is UT misses on Smith, offers DB Justin Thomas and he commits on the spot. What if ATH Kendall Sanders finally comes around on the idea of playing DB and wants to punch his ticket as well? Are you going to tell him no? That's two right there. What if ATH Nelson Agholor is still on the table at that time? You simply can't stop recruiting a game-changing five-star like that. If by some divine intervention he picks Texas, that bumps you up to three. I know I'm rambling but as you can see it can go about umpteen different ways right now as every prospect has their own timetable and decisions to make which will ultimately affect everyone else (see Westerman vs. Hegarty, 2011).
TFloss thank you for the compliment. I do consider myself a bright guy, but I'll defer to you in Texas recruiting matters.
I agree Texas should offer Dontre Wilson to fill the DJ Monroe role. Harsin seems to like to have a burner scat back in his offense. Wilson is interested in Oregon, but I still think Texas is the leader.
If Texas truly wants Brooks as a utility back, it's a matter of time before he switches to Texas.
I trust Harsin and Applewhite, James White seems to be their guy for 2013. I think Texas should take a another every down back in 2013, but 2 running backs in addition to Dontre Wilson could be a tough sell.
I hope both Fuller and Armstead make it to camp this weekend. 247 currently has Armstead as an "outside chance" of attending J12. I have no idea what Armstead is thinking. He'll likely receive an offer, and he can't bother showing up?
I like the staff's possible approach of offering Armstead, and if not, going all out with Peat and Theus. There could always be an OT late bloomer in the fall.
Thank goodness Searels didn't offer Brantley or Seaver Myers this weekend. From some reports, Searels gave Brantley a long, hard look, but wasn't convinced. Brantley allegedly is a heavy Oklahoma State lean.
The DB recruitment seems extremely fluid. I think Colin Blake, not Justin Thomas should be the next in state player in line for a Texas offer.
At this point, I'd be pretty surprised if Sanders reversed gears and agreed to play DB. He holds an offer from a Big 12 team on the rise that swears up and down that he's the next Dez Bryant.
Sanders sounds like a great kid, but he's putting Texas in a difficult position. Let's say Sanders signs with Texas as WR and is buried on the depth chart as a sophomore. Texas approaches him in the spring to move to DB, Sanders says no thanks and asks for a transfer. Texas would get absolutely nothing out of Sanders in that plausible scenario. Too risky in a very tight scholarship year.
I didn't see Landon Collins mentioned. Does Texas have a shot? The SEC quotes are pretty damning of Texas' chances. You still bring him in a for a visit, but Collins seems to be drinking the SEC sweet iced tea.
Ketch thinks the Texas staff is looking to take 20 - 21 players in the 2012 class. That's 4 scholarships left if true. If Brooks commits, that's 18. If Armstead is offered and commits at J12, that's 19. Danielle Hunter could also get an offer and accept this month, that's 20. Scholarships could be very, very tight going into July.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 04:15 PM
The DB recruitment seems extremely fluid. I think Colin Blake, not Justin Thomas should be the next in state player in line for a Texas offer.
I didn't see Landon Collins mentioned. Does Texas have a shot? The SEC quotes are pretty damning of Texas' chances. You still bring him in a for a visit, but Collins seems to be drinking the SEC sweet iced tea.
Bill-
I didn't ignore Blake or Collins purposely. Just trying to give everyone different scenarios to show how many directions the DB situation could go. Texas is in good position with Blake should they offer, but I don't have much hope for Collins. He's been living under LSU's shadow for a couple of years now and he'll be a tough pull. He's a complete badass but I'd rather have Agholor if given a choice between the two. A trip to Austin in July could change a lot and he'll be heavily recruited by the UT commitments at the 2012 Under Armour All-American Game should he still be undecided at that time. I know he's said that's the date he'd like to make a decision because it's his birthday. Hopefully he'll have two visits to campus under his belt by that time with an unofficial this summer and an official visit in the fall.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 04:34 PM
Bill-
I didn't ignore Blake or Collins purposely. Just trying to give everyone different scenarios to show how many directions the DB situation could go. Texas is in good position with Blake should they offer, but I don't have much hope for Collins. He's been living under LSU's shadow for a couple of years now and he'll be a tough pull. He's a complete badass but I'd rather have Agholor if given a choice between the two. A trip to Austin in July could change a lot and he'll be heavily recruited by the UT commitments at the 2012 Under Armour All-American Game should he still be undecided at that time. I know he's said that's the date he'd like to make a decision because it's his birthday. Hopefully he'll have two visits to campus under his belt by that time with an unofficial this summer and an official visit in the fall.
Agholor would fit Akina's 4 cornerbacks secondary better than Collins.
I'm starting to agree with the consensus that Brooks is being recruited as a utility back. Why would Texas coaching staff offer Brooks over Colinn Blake if they were looking strictly for a DB? I don't think they would.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 04:43 PM
Ketch thinks the Texas staff is looking to take 20 - 21 players in the 2012 class. That's 4 scholarships left if true. If Brooks commits, that's 18. If Armstead is offered and commits at J12, that's 19. Danielle Hunter could also get an offer and accept this month, that's 20. Scholarships could be very, very tight going into July.
Considering the great recruiting momentum that the staff has with a lot of studs right now, I don't see how they stop at that low of a number unless they make the decision to simply cut things off. Couple that with a respectable season for UT and the staff could see a few more guys wanting to jump aboard than they originally thought. Plus, they're not going to stop recruiting or turn down commitments from any of the five-star prospects until they hear "no."
Last year's class was supposed to stop at that number as well, but it blossomed to 23 with a chance to land a 24th in DE Brandon Alexander at the end of the cycle. UT obviously didn't get Alexander and a decommitment from OL Christian Westerman saw the class fall back to 22. I think the staff just stopping at 20 or 21 would be doing themselves a disservice after top notch effort these past few months.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 04:46 PM
Considering the great recruiting momentum that the staff has with a lot of studs right now, I don't see how they stop at that low of a number unless they make the decision to simply cut things off. Couple that with a respectable season for UT and the staff could see a few more guys wanting to jump aboard than they originally thought. Plus, they're not going to stop recruiting or turn down commitments from any of the five-star prospects until they hear "no."
Last year's class was supposed to stop at that number as well, but it blossomed to 23 with a chance to land a 24th in DE Brandon Alexander at the end of the cycle. UT obviously didn't get Alexander and a decommitment from OL Christian Westerman saw the class fall back to 22. I think the staff just stopping at 20 or 21 would be doing themselves a disservice after top notch effort these past few months.
Good to hear. Yeah I thought Ketch's number was a little low. I think this class will be closer to 23.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 04:50 PM
Agholor would fit Akina's 4 cornerbacks secondary better than Collins.
I'm starting to agree with the consensus that Brooks is being recruited as a utility back. Why would Texas coaching staff offer Brooks over Colinn Blake if they were looking strictly for a DB? I don't think they would.
I think Harsin has special plans for Brooks should he commit to the good guys. I don't buy that he's being recruited specifically as a DB even though he could end up there at some point. The staff has already recruited two undersized guys in DB Bryson Echols and ATH Orlando Thomas. They want size like Smith, Blake or Agholor for the last one or two spots. If DB Justin Thomas ends up with an offer down the road, it's either because the staff missed on Smith or he's simply too good to pass up despite his size. J12 will be big for him.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 04:51 PM
good to hear. Yeah i thought ketch's number was a little low. I think this class will be closer to 23.
+1
Isitjustme?
06-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Ooh boy! Can the Cowboys get that homo in the star socks? Thats six feet of fabulous right there.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 05:08 PM
Great quote from DT Paul Boyette, Jr. on OL Kennedy Estelle's commitment:
"It was good. We have been asking him to come with us and telling him that’s where he needed to be, and today was the day he finally figured it out. We were laughing and joking around like we are brothers already and we are. It’s a family atmosphere. He had fun today."
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 05:22 PM
Per Hook 'Em 24/7, DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA is not in Austin today. He's actually attending a camp in Tuscaloosa right now and will be in town later this week. Not sure if this was part of the plan all along or things changed last minute since this goes against what's been reported for about a week now. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 05:29 PM
The latest on 2013 DT Justin Manning of Dallas Kimball has him unable to attend J12 this weekend. This is a guy the staff really wants so it's a bit of depressing news. No word why he's having to miss out.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 06:24 PM
And the uncertainty continues. The Texas coaches should just be ready at any time for a blue chip recruit visit.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 07:48 PM
Taylor Hamm is going to smash his keyboard. Let the good times roll:
@MikeCoppage
Mike Coppage
Texas A&M commit Davante' Bourque is at LSU's camp today. He was reportedly going to arrive on Tuesday. Staff speaking with him now.
18 minutes ago via web
Isitjustme?
06-06-2011, 07:50 PM
You guys are pretty big Longhorn fans, huh?
ThePop
06-06-2011, 09:53 PM
I tried to get in that photo but they realized that i'm not tim cole.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 09:57 PM
Per Hook 'Em 24/7, DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA is not in Austin today. He's actually attending a camp in Tuscaloosa right now and will be in town later this week. Not sure if this was part of the plan all along or things changed last minute since this goes against what's been reported for about a week now. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
To follow up on this...it's a non-issue. Turns out the original plan for Davis was to attend the Alabama camp on Sunday and make a trip to Austin today and Tuesday. His coach, DeCarlos Holmes, was to accompany him to both. Turns out the only reason Davis was even in Tuscaloosa on Monday was due to the fact that Holmes had a family emergency on Sunday and had to leave the camp prematurely. Holmes has said he will talk to Bo Davis and likely set up something for next week. Either way, Holmes said Torshiro will be in Austin even if an assistant coach has to take him.
TFloss32
06-06-2011, 09:59 PM
I tried to get in that photo but they realized that i'm not tim cole.
That's a great photo. Too bad Brown, Cole, Echols and Jones weren't able to be in it. Not sure why Bluiett is missing unless he was the one taking the photo.
How did orientation go, Pop?
ThePop
06-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Orientation is kinda boring, but UT itself is awesome like always. Haven't ran into any player yet, maybe i'll have better luck in the next two days. :rolleyes
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 10:49 PM
To follow up on this...it's a non-issue. Turns out the original plan for Davis was to attend the Alabama camp on Sunday and make a trip to Austin today and Tuesday. His coach, DeCarlos Holmes, was to accompany him to both. Turns out the only reason Davis was even in Tuscaloosa on Monday was due to the fact that Holmes had a family emergency on Sunday and had to leave the camp prematurely. Holmes has said he will talk to Bo Davis and likely set up something for next week. Either way, Holmes said Torshiro will be in Austin even if an assistant coach has to take him.
Geez, does anybody have more travel issues than recruits? I know things happen on long trips, but recruits run up against Murphy's Law than your average person.
I was hoping Torshiro and Agholor would be in Austin at the same time, but that will almost certainly not happen. If Torshiro delays his visit again, color me slightly concerned.
billfromlaketravis
06-06-2011, 10:50 PM
more than your average person*
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 09:40 AM
I forgot to talk yesterday about 2013 OL/DL Darius James of Killeen Harker Heights. He worked exclusively on the OL at J5 getting reps at center and guard. There are a lot of big guys in the upcoming class that can work both sides of the ball, so maybe the staff likes him as an interior OL prospect. I don't think this is any indication that he's definitely going to play on the OL in the future, but it's interesting that he didn't work on the DL at all despite being so talented at that position as well.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 10:12 AM
I forgot to talk yesterday about 2013 OL/DL Darius James of Killeen Harker Heights. He worked exclusively on the OL at J5 getting reps at center and guard. There are a lot of big guys in the upcoming class that can work both sides of the ball, so maybe the staff likes him as an interior OL prospect. I don't think this is any indication that he's definitely going to play on the OL in the future, but it's interesting that he didn't work on the DL at all despite being so talented at that position as well.
Is it too early for James to have a position preference? I hope we don't have to go down that road again. James' recruitment is shaping up to be a Texas v. OU battle per 247. James is listed at 6'5'' 319 per Rivals. Texas has traditionally had huge centers, but James would be the biggest in recent memory.
From the J5 quotes, the Harker Heights staff and James seem to really like Searels and Texas. HH High could be a new pipeline school.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Justin Manning and Isiah Golden as the priorities at DT for 2013. I know Manning won't make any of the summer camps, but his recruitment was expected to be uphill. Work your magic Bo.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 11:48 AM
Quote from ATH Daniel Brooks about his potential position at Texas. Doesn't sound like he would count towards the DB numbers.
"Basically, Texas would bring me as an athlete, try me at multiple positions and see where I'd fit. At Oklahoma, I've told them that (running back) is the position I want to play, but I can contribute at any position to help the program, help the football team out."
benefactor
06-07-2011, 12:58 PM
I'm going to check in with Dalton Santos' mom via facebook tonight. Perhaps she can give me the scoop on where he's headed.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 01:24 PM
I'm going to check in with Dalton Santos' mom via facebook tonight. Perhaps she can give me the scoop on where he's headed.
Good stuff, benefactor. Let us know what you find out.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 01:34 PM
ATH Nelson Agholor is definitely on campus as of about an hour ago. He's also working out for the coaches. I posted briefly this morning but had to delete it because the report on Twitter was incorrect.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Per Hook 'Em 24/7, DE Jamal Palmer of McKinney Boyd will not attend J12 this weekend. He's decided to participate in a Baylor camp instead. Palmer may visit Austin later on this summer but nothing has been solidified. Baylor is one of few teams that have offered him thus far, so it looks like he's chosen to first visit the school showing him the most love and look at others later.
Also, as of this morning, DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA could be coming to Austin as early as this weekend to work out at J12. I doubt there's any relation to Palmer having a change a heart, but the timing is interesting. Hopefully the staff has a reason to feel optimistic about Davis at this point.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 01:53 PM
ATH Nelson Agholor is definitely on campus as of about an hour ago. He's also working out for the coaches. I posted briefly this morning but had to delete it because the report on Twitter was incorrect.
The red carpet is out for Agholor. Good set up in my opinion with the weight room full of NFL players. Larmond is Marcell Harris' coach and working the UT camps. From the Twitters:
Terrance Larmond
@CoachTSLHS Clermont FL
Assistant Football Coach South Lake High School QB,WR,DB Passing Game Cordinator Recruiting Cordinator JUICE WE GOT IT
Text follow CoachTSLHS to 40404 in the United States Follow
» CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
Agholor on campus at Univ of Texas
2 hours ago » CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
Had a great talk with Texas head coach Mack Brown about Nelson Agholor they are excitied to have him on campus tomorrow!
19 hours ago » CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
There is alot of buzz around agholor's visit tomorrow UT will roll out the red carpet.
23 hours ago » CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
Texas wieght room full of NFL players working out all ex texas guys!!!
6 Jun » CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
Just wraped up the last session of univ of Texas mini camp.Was impressed with two prospects from Dallas skyline both r commits WR and LB...
5 Jun » CoachTSLHS Terrance Larmond
Just wraped up the first session of the univ Texas mini camp. Had nice group of prospects out and a very competitive one on one session!
5 Jun »
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 01:56 PM
Per Hook 'Em 24/7, DE Jamal Palmer of McKinney Boyd will not attend J12 this weekend. He's decided to participate in a Baylor camp instead. Palmer may visit Austin later on this summer but nothing has been solidified. Baylor is one of few teams that have offered him thus far, so it looks like he's chosen to first visit the school showing him the most love and look at others later.
Also, as of this morning, DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA could be coming to Austin as early as this weekend to work out at J12. I doubt there's any relation to Palmer having a change a heart, but the timing is interesting. Hopefully the staff has a reason to feel optimistic about Davis at this point.
J12 should be a good weekend for Torshiro to visit. Echols, Tim Cole, Malcom Brown and Cayleb Jones should all be there. In addition to the now enrolled 2011 class and plenty of 2013 studs. I just want Torshiro to make it down.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 02:02 PM
Bill-
Thanks for those tweets. Exciting to see Harris' coach so pumped about UT. Mack Brown and Co. know what they're doing when the studs come down to visit.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 02:14 PM
The attrition bug has reared its head. Sophomore WR Greg Timmons has decided to transfer. Grambling is thought to be his destination.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 02:17 PM
The attrition bug has reared it's head. Sophomore WR Greg Timmons has decided to transfer. Grambling is thought to be his destination.
I had a feeling it would Timmons. I was hoping it'd Fitzhenry, but good luck to Greg at Grambling. I hope Timmons starts the attrition snowball.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 03:24 PM
I'm going to check in with Dalton Santos' mom via facebook tonight. Perhaps she can give me the scoop on where he's headed.
Wild pipe dream here, but I'll throw it out there. Is there any possibility of Timmons' departure opening a spot on the defensive side of the ball? Currently, there are roughly a dozen more offensive players than defensive players on the Texas roster.
Hopefully we'll see more attrition and the Texas staff pursues Dalton Santos. Santos succeeding Steve Edmond is a dream of mine.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 03:37 PM
Currently, there are roughly a dozen more offensive players than defensive players on the Texas roster.
15 TEs who never play will do that to a team.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 03:41 PM
15 TEs who never play will do that to a team.
TFloss, you and the Spurs Talk posters are invited to my Ahmard Howard Senior Day party.
Pistons < Spurs
06-07-2011, 04:23 PM
EvanDanielscout Evan Daniels
Per Vince Walden at IMG, DeAndre Daniels has committed to Connecticut.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 05:07 PM
I stopped following the DeAndre Daniels saga a while ago, but UConn?! So, he picked a school that wasn't previously mentioned as a candidate and supposedly never visited? Makes sense.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 05:08 PM
TFloss, you and the Spurs Talk posters are invited to my Ahmard Howard Senior Day party.
Sorry, BFLT. I'll be at Gideon's.
Pistons < Spurs
06-07-2011, 05:08 PM
Give it 2 days, he'll change his mind...
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 05:11 PM
Give it 2 days, he'll change his mind...
I read a rumor that was a bit of a stretch, but entertaining nonetheless. It basically said he was waiting out the new NBA labor agreement in hopes that high school players could once again make the jump to the NBA. I don't know if he simply doesn't want to attend college, has a handler that's pimping him out, etc., but it's beyond silly at this point. Freakin' UConn.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 05:15 PM
Sorry, BFLT. I'll be at Gideon's.
Haha touché Floss. That should be a pretty crowded party.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 05:15 PM
Worth noting that Hook 'Em 24/7 has 2013 DT Justin Manning of Dallas Kimball still attending J12 this weekend, per one of his coaches (OrangeBloods has him not attending). We'll just have to wait and see who shows up like usual. Manning will be headed to Norman tomorrow for one of OU's summer camps.
TFloss32
06-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Whoa! Looks like QB Terrelle Pryor is done at Ohio State.
@schadjoe
Joe Schad
RT @PDBuckeyes: BREAKING NEWS: Terrelle Pryor has decided to end his football career at Ohio State, per his lawyer
shyne
06-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Whoa! Looks like QB Terrelle Pryor is done at Ohio State.
@schadjoe
Joe Schad
RT @PDBuckeyes: BREAKING NEWS: Terrelle Pryor has decided to end his football career at Ohio State, per his lawyer
Pryor is a piece of shit.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 06:11 PM
Worth noting that Hook 'Em 24/7 has 2013 DT Justin Manning of Dallas Kimball still attending J12 this weekend, per one of his coaches (OrangeBloods has him not attending). We'll just have to wait and see who shows up like usual. Manning will be headed to Norman tomorrow for one of OU's summer camps.
I hope 247 is right on this one. Thank goodness there's a viable alternative to Orangebloods out there now. If Manning, Vincent Taylor, Isiah Golden, and Ben Hughes make it to J12, Bo should have a pretty good idea of who the priorities are at DT for 2013.
I'd add that 2012 Round Rock DT Glen Antoine received a J12 invitation from Bo Davis. I think Bo is just being thorough, but he invited Tomme Mark to J5. DT attrition has been rumored for some time, and Bo could be evaluating some in state options.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 06:17 PM
Exactly what Agholor was looking to hear. More from Twitter legend Terrance Larmond:
@CoachTSLHS
Terrance Larmond
Also agholor has finished his visit about a hr or so ago. He spent alot of time with coach brown Texas also said they would be open to him playing on either side of the ball.
shyne
06-07-2011, 06:22 PM
Agholor is a badass motherfucker, if we could somehow pull this one off this class could be very special.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 06:35 PM
Hallelujah on the Fitzhenry possibility:
Talk in East Texas has both Traylon Shead and Brock Fitzhenry as possible roster moves. Fitzhenry may grad early. Couple of folks close to Shead say it's not true.
This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 6/7/2011 at 4:07 PM
shyne
06-07-2011, 06:37 PM
Hallelujah on the Fitzhenry possibility:
Talk in East Texas has both Traylon Shead and Brock Fitzhenry as possible roster moves. Fitzhenry may grad early. Couple of folks close to Shead say it's not true.
This post was edited by BobbyBurton on 6/7/2011 at 4:07 PM
What does this mean Bill? More scholorships to give out for this class?
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 06:49 PM
What does this mean Bill? More scholorships to give out for this class?
Shead leaving the program wouldn't be a good thing. RB depth isn't outstanding as it stands now, and Fozzy and Cody are graduating.
My understanding shyne is that Texas needs one more player to leave the program to make it to 85 before the fall. Just my opinion, if Texas knocks it down to 82-83 scholarship players, I think we'll see additional 2012 offers. Hell, the Daniel Brooks offer came out of nowhere, so the numbers could be less tight than outside observers believe it to be.
Patrick Nwkopara, Taylor Bible, De'Aires Cotton, and Eyron Barnett have also been mentioned as attrition candidates. I wouldn't expect much from any of those players. I wouldn't shed a tear if all of them left.
shyne
06-07-2011, 06:52 PM
Shead leaving the program wouldn't be a good thing. RB depth isn't outstanding as it stands now, and Fozzy and Cody are graduating.
My understanding shyne is that Texas needs one more player to leave the program to make it to 85 before the fall. Just my opinion, if Texas knocks it down to 82-83 scholarship players, I think we'll see additional 2012 offers. Hell, the Daniel Brooks offer came out of nowhere, so the numbers could be less tight than outside observers believe it to be.
Patrick Nwkopara, Taylor Bible, De'Aires Cotton, and Eyron Barnett have also been mentioned as attrition candidates. I wouldn't expect much from any of those players. I wouldn't shed a tear if all of them left.
Taylor Bible that fat waste of talent, I thought he was going to be a good one.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Taylor Bible that fat waste of talent, I thought he was going to be a good one.
You certainly aren't the only one who thought Bible was going to be an excellent DT at Texas.
billfromlaketravis
06-07-2011, 11:46 PM
Greg Brantley has committed Okie State. Brantley probably wasn't in line for a Texas offer, but another possibility is off the board. Brantley has been rumored as a strong Okie State lean for a couple weeks.
Tre'von Armstead make it to Austin, and receive your Texas offer.
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 11:40 AM
The ESPNU 150 is out. 9 Longhorns in the top 100 of the ESPNU 150, Aggie claims ESpin – t sip bias. Ho hum. Another day, another Aggie rankings conspiracy theory.
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
ESPNU 150 Released. #Texas commits: Johnathan Gray #8 Malcom Brown #13 Cayleb Jones #20 Connor Brewer #26 Thomas Johnson #35
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
ESPNU 150 Cont: #Texas commits: Kennedy Estelle #48 Peter Jinkens #56 Bryson Echols #79 Alex Norman #86
The esteemed Trey Williams comes in at # 134.
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 12:02 PM
To be fair to the Aggies, they had 3 players in the ESPNU 150:
# 104 Jordan Richmond
# 134 Trey Williams
# 137 Bralon Addison
DesignatedT
06-08-2011, 12:26 PM
that list is a joke but that doesnt really matter.
TFloss32
06-08-2011, 12:31 PM
Greg Brantley has committed Okie State. Brantley probably wasn't in line for a Texas offer, but another possibility is off the board. Brantley has been rumored as a strong Okie State lean for a couple weeks.
Tre'von Armstead make it to Austin, and receive your Texas offer.
We'll see if Armstead shows up this weekend. I'm not convinced he gets an offer even if he does attend J12, but being there to work out for the coaches should put him in a nice position.
TFloss32
06-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Some good insight from Recruitocosm. According to what their sources are telling them, Brooks and Sanders' fates are intertwined. I guess the hope is Brooks does eventually move to DB if he were to commit to Texas.
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/06/08/texas-recruiting-big-cigar-is-ready-to-ash/
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 01:15 PM
We'll see if Armstead shows up this weekend. I'm not convinced he gets an offer even if he does attend J12, but being there to work out for the coaches should put him in a nice position.
I think the right approach is taking Armstead now if we can get him while pursuing Peat and Theus until the very end. I think Texas is looking to take 2 more OTs, some of the J5 quotes indicate this.
TFloss32
06-08-2011, 01:35 PM
I think the right approach is taking Armstead now if we can get him while pursuing Peat and Theus until the very end. I think Texas is looking to take 2 more OTs, some of the J5 quotes indicate this.
This is exactly what I'd like to see happen. Pursue the five-stars until National Signing Day and it doesn't matter if you lose out on both as you're already set at the position with Armstead (if you get him), Estelle, Hughes and Riser.
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
This is exactly what I'd like to see happen. Pursue the five-stars until National Signing Day and it doesn't matter if you lose out on both as you're already set at the position with Armstead (if you get him), Estelle, Hughes and Riser.
According to ESPNU, Texas is in Theus’ top 6, and Peat and Alexanders’ top 5. That ain’t half bad. Peat’s visit at the end of June should make things more interesting.
DesignatedT
06-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Hearing reports that Davante Borque has decommitted from A&M.
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Flame on TexAgs:
MikeCoppage
Mike Coppage
Crowley RB Davante' Bourque has decommitted from Texas A&M.
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 03:05 PM
@MikeCoppage
Mike Coppage
Crowley RB Davante' Bourque commits to LSU.
29 seconds ago via web
ThePop
06-08-2011, 04:07 PM
Meh, A&M doesn't need him. They already have an elite recruiting class built up.
Is what they are probably saying on texags
TFloss32
06-08-2011, 05:07 PM
*There's some talk about ATH Kendall Sanders of Athens opening up his recruitment and de-committing from Oklahoma State in the future. Teams like Notre Dame and Tennessee have been coming on strong lately and it sounds like he wants to take a look around.
*OL Andrus Peat of Tempe, AZ has a trip to Austin set for the end of June, according to an article on 24/7's main board. He'll be visiting Notre Dame about two weeks before he makes it to UT.
shyne
06-08-2011, 05:21 PM
Whats a better paysite TFloss Orangebloods or 247? thinking bout getting one
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 06:03 PM
*There's some talk about ATH Kendall Sanders of Athens opening up his recruitment and de-committing from Oklahoma State in the future. Teams like Notre Dame and Tennessee have been coming on strong lately and it sounds like he wants to take a look around.
*OL Andrus Peat of Tempe, AZ has a trip to Austin set for the end of June, according to an article on 24/7's main board. He'll be visiting Notre Dame about two weeks before he makes it to UT.
Scoreboard Aggie: Okie State decommits 3 (possibly 4 soon) - Aggie decommits 2.
Step it up 'Ole Army.
TFloss what's your take on Sanders? Yes the 'Cosm article says they're intertwined; if Brooks commits to Texas, the staff will end their pursuit of Kendall Sanders. But what are your thoughts?
I think Kendall Sanders would have a tough time starting at WR at Texas. If Sanders is dead set on playing WR in college, I believe he is, I think should Texas should move on.
While Brooks is less talented than Sanders, he's more willing to play anywhere at Texas. Agreed this weekend in Norman should be very interesting for the Brooks.
Good news on Andrus Peat. This visit news sounds more firm than his possible J5 visit date. Was the visit news verified from Andrus Peat or his father? I'm sure the red carpet will be out again. I think it's critical that Coach Searels sell Todd Peat (Andrus' father) on Texas. Mr. Peat played in the League, and as we've seen with NFL fathers, the Texas staff must demonstrate a solid plan to get Andrus to the NFL.
symple19
06-08-2011, 06:17 PM
The pursuit of Peat is going to be fun to watch. So many recruiting juggernauts going head-to-head
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 06:53 PM
I wasn’t aware that Texas was in Peat’s top 5. ESPN update on Peat:
22. Andrus Peat, OT (Tempe, Ariz./ Corona Del Sol)
Nebraska, USC, Texas, FSU and Notre Dame are five of Peat’s favorites. He will visit Notre Dame and Texas this summer, and he hopes to get to Auburn and Florida.
ThePop
06-08-2011, 07:44 PM
I'm not in Austin anymore, but this morning I ran into 3 ut players while walking around campus. I was walking by jester when I saw the 3 walking together. I only recognized Desmond Jackson at first, then I realized one of them was leroy scott and I think the other was Mykkele Thompson. Later on in the co-op I saw someone that may have been malcolm brown. He stood pretty much a few inches from me as we both looked at iphone cases. He was sporting the mini-mohawk he has had at times. I'm not quite sure if this one was Malcolm but he looked like him.
Just sharing a new experience :)
billfromlaketravis
06-08-2011, 09:17 PM
From Gerry H :
empe, Ariz., offensive tackle Andrus Peat reported to BlueandGold.com in May that he would be taking a summer visit and/or an official visit to Notre Dame, and he provided us with an update on those plans.
In addition to a visit tentatively scheduled to Notre Dame, five-star OT Andrus Peat has other destinations in mind.
The 6-7, 280-pound Corona Del Sol High player plans on getting to South Bend on June 17.
"I have to make sure with my dad to see if he made the flight plans and stuff like that, but I'm going to be making a trip in June no matter what," Peat said.
Peat, who is ranked by 247Sports as a five-star recruit, the No. 2 offensive tackle in the country, the No. 1 player in Arizona and the No. 4 overall prospect, recently provided the network with his top 13 schools.
Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oregon, Stanford, Texas and USC made the cut.
"I have done my homework on these schools and I have a great chance to play early at all of them," he told Justin Hopkins of DuckTerritory.com (247Sports Oregon site). "They are all top programs that win a lot of football games. They all offer great academics as well."
In addition to taking a trip to South Bend, Peat has also looked into seeing some of his other favorites this summer.
"I want to get to Texas and then make a trip to some schools in the South like Auburn, Florida and maybe Florida State," he shared. "Texas will be at the end of June and the others in July probably."
When it comes down to a decision timeline, nothing is set in stone at this point according to his father, Todd Peat, Sr.
"I think that's up to Andrus," the elder Peat, who played seven seasons in the NFL, told Charles Power of BamaOnLine.com (247Sports Alabama site). "There were some times where I felt like he might decide early. We want to make sure we do everything in our power to allow him to see the universities that interest him the most."
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 09:34 AM
Whats a better paysite TFloss Orangebloods or 247? thinking bout getting one
Shyne-
I'd probably go with OrangeBloods if it's your first time subscribing to a pay site. They have the much larger community and more consistent flow of information, so the conversation never stops. It's definitely the more entertaining place to be. Hook 'Em 24/7 has the best overall information and analysis because Gerry Hamilton simply outworks his competition, but that board is dead at times. I'd do the seven day trial for both and decide from there based on what type of forum you're looking for.
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 09:43 AM
*DT Justin Manning of Dallas Kimball is attending J12 this weekend. There was some debate about what his plans were but both OrangeBloods and Hook 'Em 24/7 have him in Austin this weekend. With the possibility of guys like OL/DL Darius James and OL/DL A'Shawn Robinson ending up on the offensive line down the road, I think Manning is a guy the staff must get for 2013. He spent Wednesday camping at OU.
*Speaking of the OU camp, there were a lot of 2013 studs in attendance. OL Jake Raulerson of Celina performed so well that the Sooners decided to offer. I wouldn't worry about this one as I think Raulerson commits to the Longhorns in the early months of 2012. Like I said, you can pencil him in for an offer at the first Junior Day next February. Other studs in attendance yesterday were WRs Jake Oliver of Dallas Jesuit and Derrick Griffin of Rosenberg Terry (see his picture below). Oliver will be in Austin this weekend but Griffin's plans are up in the air at this point because of his summer basketball schedule.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/895/1101461.jpg
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 10:07 AM
TFloss what's your take on Sanders? Yes the 'Cosm article says they're intertwined; if Brooks commits to Texas, the staff will end their pursuit of Kendall Sanders. But what are your thoughts?
Bill-
I'm still of the opinion that the staff offered Brooks because they feel he's the better overall prospect. Hell, they might even think he could be the better DB as crazy as it sounds. I do feel Brooks can carve his niche and receive meaningful touches in Harsin's offense as a utility guy whereas Sanders would have a hard time doing that strictly playing WR and competing for playing time with studs like Shipley, Davis, White, Jones, Johnson, etc.
Even if Brooks commits to Texas down the road, I'm not sold that the recruitment is over if Sanders eventually comes around to the idea of playing DB. However, the latest rumors about Sanders de-committing from Okie Lite have him looking first and foremost at the schools offering him as a WR. It almost feels like Sanders won't end up at Texas unless he gives in at the last minute. Throw in a commitment from a guy like Geno Smith or Justin Thomas on top of Brooks and that should be the final nail in the coffin.
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 10:20 AM
[QUOTE=TFloss32;5290946]*DT Justin Manning of Dallas Kimball is attending J12 this weekend. There was some debate about what his plans were but both OrangeBloods and Hook 'Em 24/7 have him in Austin this weekend. With the possibility of guys like OL/DL Darius James and OL/DL A'Shawn Robinson ending up on the offensive line down the road, I think Manning is a guy the staff must get for 2013. He spent Wednesday camping at OU.
*Speaking of the OU camp, there were a lot of 2013 studs in attendance. OL Jake Raulerson of Celina performed so well that the Sooners decided to offer. I wouldn't worry about this one as I think Raulerson commits to the Longhorns in the early months of 2012. Like I said, you can pencil him in for an offer at the first Junior Day next February. Other studs in attendance yesterday were WRs Jake Oliver of Dallas Jesuit and Derrick Griffin of Rosenberg Terry (see his picture below). Oliver will be in Austin this weekend but Griffin's plans are up in the air at this point because of his summer basketball schedule.
Good to hear Justin Manning is going to make it to J12. Manning's initial quotes about attending the Texas summer camp sounded more like a kid that wasn't sure about his summer plans, than a recruit that was uncertain about Texas. I'm happy to see that somebody in the Texas program touched based with Manning, and convinced him to come to J12. Isiah Golden, Vincent Taylor, Ben Hughes and Justin Manning all at the same camp competing against each other. The post camp observations should be very interesting. Pre J12, Isiah Golden and Justin Manning should be the top 2 priorities.
So much for Derrick Griffin not attending any football camps this summer. Even though it was an OU camp, it's good to hear that Griffin is at least interested in football camps. Hopefully Griffin makes J12, but Texas should at least host him this summer.
Raulerson seems to be bedrock on which the 2013 Texas class will be be built. OU might have offered Raulerson, but I'm certain that Jake understands he holds a de facto Texas offer.
I'm personally not that excited about Jake Oliver. I have serious concerns about Oliver creating separation between defenders at the next level. 2013 is a pretty deep year for receivers. Gary Moore, Prentavious Moorehead Ra'Shaad Samples, Dannon Cavil and Chevoski Collins are all better options in my opinion. Collins just came off a stellar performance at the J5 camp.
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 01:34 PM
The second installment about the current state of the UT program. Sobering QB news.
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/06/09/program-tidbits-from-el-cohiba-grande/comment-page-1/#comment-111215
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 01:51 PM
Bill-
I'm still of the opinion that the staff offered Brooks because they feel he's the better overall prospect. Hell, they might even think he could be the better DB as crazy as it sounds. I do feel Brooks can carve his niche and receive meaningful touches in Harsin's offense as a utility guy whereas Sanders would have a hard time doing that strictly playing WR and competing for playing time with studs like Shipley, Davis, White, Jones, Johnson, etc.
Even if Brooks commits to Texas down the road, I'm not sold that the recruitment is over if Sanders eventually comes around to the idea of playing DB. However, the latest rumors about Sanders de-committing from Okie Lite have him looking first and foremost at the schools offering him as a WR. It almost feels like Sanders won't end up at Texas unless he gives in at the last minute. Throw in a commitment from a guy like Geno Smith or Justin Thomas on top of Brooks and that should be the final nail in the coffin.
Geno Smith would be a very good nail in Kendall Sanders' coffin.
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 02:07 PM
*ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale did follow through with his scheduled visit to Norman and he's on the OU campus as we speak. Probably a good thing that he's there right after visiting UT as he'll be able to compare and figure out if Norman is where he really wants to be. It's going to be difficult for him to turn down a Texas offer with his family living so close to Austin.
*2013 TE Ricky Seals-Jones will not be at J12 this weekend. Sounds like he'll be on a family trip. I consider UT a heavy favorite in this recruitment so I wouldn't read too much into his absence. There's a good chance he gets to Austin before school starts back up again in the fall.
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 03:37 PM
*ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale did follow through with his scheduled visit to Norman and he's on the OU campus as we speak. Probably a good thing that he's there right after visiting UT as he'll be able to compare and figure out if Norman is where he really wants to be. It's going to be difficult for him to turn down a Texas offer with his family living so close to Austin.
*2013 TE Ricky Seals-Jones will not be at J12 this weekend. Sounds like he'll be on a family trip. I consider UT a heavy favorite in this recruitment so I wouldn't read too much into his absence. There's a good chance he gets to Austin before school starts back up again in the fall.
Brooks first conversation with Stoops should be interesting. I don't think we'll know much until Brooks leaves Norman. If Brooks leaves Norman with an OU offer still on the table, I think most people will be surprised.
Good news on Seals - Jones being a heavy Texas favorite. I guess Eric Dickerson's hatred of Texas has cooled some in older age. I think Derrick Griffin is more than likely to choose basketball, but if Seals - Jones does what's best for him he'll choose football over basketball.
I sympathize with Seals - Jones going on a family trip. I was forced to go on one every summer with my family until I was 18.
symple19
06-09-2011, 04:56 PM
Geno Smith would be a very good nail in Kendall Sanders' coffin.
check out the picture Geno has up on his twitter account
(yeah, i know not to read too much into it, but still. Guy on the right is Trooper Taylor, AU WR's coach and his primary recruiter)
http://twitter.com/#!/SmithGeno4
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 05:16 PM
check out the picture Geno has up on his twitter account
(yeah, i know not to read too much into it, but still. Guy on the right is Trooper Taylor, AU WR's coach and his primary recruiter)
http://twitter.com/#!/SmithGeno4
Interesting photograph. Trying very hard not to make a Trooper Taylor crack here in the interest of thread civility.
symple19
06-09-2011, 07:28 PM
Interesting photograph. Trying very hard not to make a Trooper Taylor crack here in the interest of thread civility.
go ahead if it makes you feel better, I've heard them all.
My favorite: "Trooper is just an interpreter for the rest of the coaching staff to be able to talk to the dumber players"
Whatever, he's effective and has coached guys into the NFL. WR play has been a lot better since his arrival. And, his enthusiasm is always a welcome sight on the sidelines.
But yeah, a lot of people don't like the way he talks/acts, which isn't a far cry from a dude in the projects
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 07:32 PM
go ahead if it makes you feel better, I've heard them all.
My favorite: "Trooper is just an interpreter for the rest of the coaching staff to be able to talk to the dumber players"
Whatever, he's effective and has coached guys into the NFL. WR play has been a lot better since his arrival. And, his enthusiasm is always a welcome sight on the sidelines.
But yeah, a lot of people don't like the way he talks/acts, which isn't a far cry from a dude in the projects
Taylor is a good recruiter. I'll leave it at that.
TFloss32
06-09-2011, 10:31 PM
Some disappointing news coming out this evening. It looks like DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA will not be making a trip to Austin after all because the UT staff is apparently moving on from this recruitment. I'll post more once additional details are released, but it's also interesting to note that DE Noah Spence of Harrisburg, PA has not heard from the staff in a few weeks.
billfromlaketravis
06-09-2011, 10:42 PM
Some disappointing news coming out this evening. It looks like DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA will not be making a trip to Austin after all because the UT staff is apparently moving on from this recruitment. I'll post more once additional details are released, but it's also interesting to note that DE Noah Spence of Harrisburg, PA has not heard from the staff in a few weeks.
What the hell? What's the plan at DE? Moving on from Torshiro Davis for no apparent reason, no contact with Noah Spence, Jamal Palmer and Danielle Hunter failing to make Texas camps. Has the coaching staff shut down DE for 2012?
shyne
06-09-2011, 10:48 PM
What the hell? What's the plan at DE? Moving on from Torshiro Davis for no apparent reason, no contact with Noah Spence, Jamal Palmer and Danielle Hunter failing to make Texas camps. Has the coaching staff shut down DE for 2012?
Maybe they think they need for Db's instead.
billfromlaketravis
06-10-2011, 08:47 AM
Maybe they think they need for Db's instead.
You're not the only one thinking Davis' spot goes to a DB shyne. I wonder if Danielle Hunter is in line for an offer? DL could be full for 2012.
shyne
06-10-2011, 09:53 AM
Bill, you think the staff might try Tevin Jackson at defensive end?
billfromlaketravis
06-10-2011, 10:17 AM
Bill, you think the staff might try Tevin Jackson at defensive end?
I think Kendall Thompson is more likely because of speed. Thompson runs in the 4.6s and Jackson runs in the 4.5s. At the very least Thompson should develop into a Buck before he graduates. I could see Thompson starting at OLB while he adds weight to spin down to Buck / DE.
I do agree that Tevin Jackson is pretty big for a freshman linebacker. Nobody really knows where Jackson's height and weight are after waiting a year to enroll at Texas. Jackson allegedly worked out at Garland High while waiting to be cleared to play. Jackson is said to be in shape and ready to go. I'm very happy that Tevin is enrolled in school and on the team. It might be a blessing in disguise as Tevin basically had an additional redshirt year. Tevin deserves all the credit in the world for being patient and staying committed to Texas. Seems like a great kid.
I think Tevin also starts at OLB. Jackson is said to be a very good pass rusher and has good burst off the edge. I think Jackson is also a Buck candidate, but with his speed it would be a mistake to move him to DE full time.
Shyne, very astute observation on Tevin Jackson. It's completely plausible that the Texas staff likes what they have in Jackson and Thompson so much that they felt that they didn't need Torshiro Davis.
shyne
06-10-2011, 10:22 AM
I'm thinking the staff maybe has a silent commit somehwere, and they need that ship.
billfromlaketravis
06-10-2011, 10:34 AM
I'm thinking the staff maybe has a silent commit somehwere, and they need that ship.
Another interesting thought. I had a wild idea that I'll throw out there. What if Texas is hold a spot for JUCO phenom Denico Autry? Autry allegedly has an offer contingent upon making his grades, graduating in December and being accepted at UT. Autry seems very determined to make an official visit to Texas in the fall. Additionally, Autry's coach has said he is making sure that all of Autry's course work is transferable to UT.
The problem with JUCO players is that much of their course work would not transfer to an outstanding academic institution like UT.
Whisky Dog
06-10-2011, 01:52 PM
Strange that Texas just backed off Torshiro like that, not sure what that means about the DB and DL class.
Just saw Marcell Harris is coming to J12
billfromlaketravis
06-10-2011, 02:53 PM
Possibly good news:
@GhostofBigRoy
Wescott Eberts
Chatter that WR Brock Fitzhenry hasn't been working out w team, may seek a transfer. Like Timmons, not unexpected if true. #hookem
18 minutes ago via web
Bobby Burton posted a couple days ago that Fitzhenry might graduate early and give up football. Regardless, Fitzhenry could be the next player to leave the Texas program. Texas needs one more departure to get to 85 before the season.
billfromlaketravis
06-10-2011, 04:45 PM
Interview with Coach Searels, worth a listen:
http://www.longhornstation.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/player.html?redir=yes&mps=Default&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/23782/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/23782/710/richmedia/BOS_Stacy_Searrelsmp3.mp3?CCOMRRMID=21176638&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=AUSTIN-TX&NG_FORMAT=&NG_ID=&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=710&SERVER_NAME=www.longhornstation.com&SITE_ID=710&STATION_ID=KVET-AM&TRACK=
billfromlaketravis
06-11-2011, 10:56 AM
It looks like Tyrone Swoopes and Kohl Stewart will be in Austin tomorrow. Should be a hell of a QB competition. Hopefully Texas makes up some ground on Swoopes this weekend.
billfromlaketravis
06-11-2011, 02:18 PM
Anybody else wondering about how Agholor’s Texas went? Very interesting tweet from 247 Sports reporter based out of Tampa (Agholor is from Tampa) :
@joshnewberg247:
WR Nelson Agholor out at Sling and Shoot. Gushing over his recent visit to #Texas. They could be a major player.
billfromlaketravis
06-12-2011, 09:34 AM
Well it might be back on with Texas and Torshiro Davis. Good news:
@jsuchomel
Jason Suchomel
Big news for the #Longhorns. Top DE/LB Torshiro Davis is on his way to Austin. Details here: http://bit.ly/lt8duW
47 minutes ago via TweetDeck
Now the bad news. DT Justin Manning is having ride issues and won't make it down to Austin for J12. It's early but I still think Isiah Golden and Manning are the priorities at DT for 2013.
billfromlaketravis
06-12-2011, 11:41 AM
My prayers have been answered. Tre'von Armstead is at J12.
@jsuchomel
Jason Suchomel
#Longhorns are hosting top 2012 OT Tre-Von Armstead (Port Arthur Memorial) at today's camp. Camp notes: http://bit.ly/jhfoLW #hookem #UT
5 minutes ago via TweetDeck
TFloss32
06-12-2011, 04:04 PM
Good stuff, Bill. We'll do a big summary of everything tomorrow once there's more solid information and we get a feel for the how the camp went, but here are some things that stand out so far and BFLT already mentioned two of them:
-OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial did make it in and that was a smart move on his part if he wants a Texas offer. I believe there is an NCAA rule where you can't offer prospects while they're at camp and have to wait until they return home, so we'll have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow before we hear anything on that front.
-Big news on 2013 QB Tyrone Swoopes of Whitewright. Not only did he make it to Austin today, but he's also staying through Wednesday for UT's overnight camp. 2013 OL/DL A'Shawn Robinson of FW Arlington Heights is doing the same.
-Things are back on again with DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA. Even though the staff is struggling with the numbers game right now and want to make sure they have enough room for their main targets, I found it odd that they would simply cut off communication with such a stud prospect like Davis. Turns out Mack Brown changed his mind and felt Davis was too good to pass up (it also speaks to UT's chances in this recruitment). He had Bo Davis re-invite him to J12 and he's on campus as we speak.
-DB Justin Thomas of West Orange-Stark did not make it in for J12.
billfromlaketravis
06-12-2011, 04:31 PM
Good stuff, Bill. We'll do a big summary of everything tomorrow once there's more solid information and we get a feel for the how the camp went, but here are some things that stand out so far and BFLT already mentioned two of them:
-OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial did make it in and that was a smart move on his part if he wants a Texas offer. I believe there is an NCAA rule where you can't offer prospects while they're at camp and have to wait until they return home, so we'll have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow before we hear anything on that front.
-Big news on 2013 QB Tyrone Swoopes of Whitewright. Not only did he make it to Austin today, but he's also staying through Wednesday for UT's overnight camp. 2013 OL/DL A'Shawn Robinson of FW Arlington Heights is doing the same.
-Things are back on again with DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA. Even though the staff is struggling with the numbers game right now and want to make sure they have enough room for their main targets, I found it odd that they would simply cut off communication with such a stud prospect like Davis. Turns out Mack Brown changed his mind and felt Davis was too good to pass up (it also speaks to UT's chances in this recruitment). He had Bo Davis re-invite him to J12 and he's on campus as we speak.
-DB Justin Thomas of West Orange-Stark did not make it in for J12.
You're right Floss. Teams can't offer recruits at summer camps. It's common for coaches to call recruits and their families while they are driving home and extend the offer then.
Great news on Armstead attending J12. As I'm sure y'all have gathered, I'm a big fan of Armstead. Tre'von is pretty raw, but he has all the skills and physical attributes to develop into a LT at the next level. Hopefully, the Armsteads will get a call from Mack on their way back to Port Arthur.
Tremendous news on Swoopes attending the Texas' overnight camp. TCU was thought to be the leader for Swoopes, but after 4 days on campus, one would think that Texas would close the gap if not overtake TCU as Swoopes' leader.
It'd be cool if A'Shawn Robinson and Swoopes became friends during the overnight camp. Players recruit other players just as much as the coaches do.
It SEEMS like Mack is turning over a new leaf. I'm cautiously optimistic, we'll see what happens. Mack is way out of his comfort zone on Torshiro Davis, an OOS recruit and committed player. Bo Davis deserves a lot of credit for sticking with this one.
Not unexpected news on Justin Thomas. Thomas might have known he wasn't going to offered today, and didn't see the point in taking another Texas visit. I think Thomas' recruitment will be in a holding pattern until LSU, OU or Texas offers.
Looking forward to the big summary tomorrow Floss.
TFloss32
06-12-2011, 04:40 PM
Tremendous news on Swoopes attending the Texas' overnight camp. TCU was thought to be the leader for Swoopes, but after 4 days on campus, one would think that Texas would close the gap if not overtake TCU as Swoopes' leader.
Like you read in the Recruitocosm article, TCU is just his "it" school right now. They won the Rose Bowl and they've offered, so I wouldn't harp on it too much. A sit-down with Mack Brown and an offer from Texas changes a lot with most prospects. UT will still need to do their part, though.
It SEEMS like Mack is turning over a new leaf. I'm cautiously optimistic, we'll see what happens. Mack is way out of his comfort zone on Torshiro Davis, an OOS recruit and committed player. Bo Davis deserves a lot of credit for sticking with this one.
I wonder if Bo Davis was the one who convinced Mack Brown to keep working on this one, or if Brown was the one having second thoughts. Either way, Torshiro is meeting with Brown right now to make his offer official. So glad this worked out as I was highly disappointed on Thursday evening.
billfromlaketravis
06-12-2011, 04:48 PM
The Torshiro Davis back story will be an interesting one. I'm glad it all worked out and he made to campus.
Some J12 updates from Inside Texas' Blake Monroe :
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
Just spoke with Shreveport, La. defensive end Torshiro Davis and he told me he's still on the #UT campus and loving it. #Texas #LSU #Bama
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
2013 Arl. Seguin WR Jordan Hicks said he had a blast at UT and can't wait to hear more from #Texas. Also drawing interest from #LSU & #OU
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
Texas defensive tackle commit Malcom Brown (Brenham, Tex) said he attended today's camp and it was great. #UT #Longhorns
@ITBlake
Blake Munroe
Texas cornerback commit Bryson Echols (DeSoto, Tex.) said that he thought he did really good for the day. He ran a 4.43 40 today. #UT #Horns
billfromlaketravis
06-12-2011, 04:51 PM
Texas commit Curtis Riser, 2013 RB Dontre Wilson and 10 other DeSoto players accompanied Echols to J12. Football factory.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 11:12 AM
Guys...here's a recap of everything I could find from this weekend. A lot of it has already been discussed but I've added some more detail in certain areas. I'll try to round up a list of the important names that made it in for J12, but that's been hard to come by because there were so many no-shows, cancellations, guys who missed because of travel arrangements, etc. Enjoy!
*OL Tre'Von Armstead of Port Arthur Memorial was the one to watch this weekend and it was going to be big news whether he received an offer or not. Turns out he's been "impossible" to reach since he left J12 yesterday. On the surface one would think he didn't get offered as we probably would've heard the good news by now. Makes you wonder if Stacy Searels will continue to evaluate him and/or other in-state prospects or if the decision has been made to go all out for OTs Andrus Peat and John Theus. It will only get harder to pull Armstead away from Baylor if he's the guy they want.
*DE Torshiro Davis of Shreveport, LA made it in this weekend with his teammate, 2013 DT Christopher Robinson. It's still a bit unclear how things turned around so quickly in Davis' recruitment after Thursday evening's disappointing news, but Texas is back in the race and Davis "loved" his visit. He said Texas isn't at the top right now because they haven't been recruiting him as long as LSU and Alabama, but the latest rumors have Davis wanting to leave Louisiana for college. This one could very well come down to UT and Alabama. Davis is considered a "longshot" by some, but I've always felt UT could win out in the end because of the presence of Bo Davis. Hopefully the staff sticks with this one.
An interesting note on 2013 DT Christopher Robinson. His coach, DeCarlos Holmes, said he performed very well and got the vibe that UT was interested enough to extend a scholarship offer next February. Just something to keep in mind since 2013 is stacked with talented big men on both sides of the ball.
*2013 DB Marcell Harris of Groveland, FL gave his visit to Austin a "9 out of 10." He deducted a point simply because of the heat everyone was having to deal with, but he loved everything else and said the trip was totally worth it. The Harris family actually arrived on Saturday afternoon and it gave them an opportunity to tour the facilities. Harris' father spent a good deal of time with the coaching staff while his mother sat down with the coaches' wives. Harris mentioned the top notch facilities and getting to work with Duane Akina as the highlight of his trip. He said coming to J12 only helped the Longhorns positioning in his recruitment and they'll continue to be one of his favorites. I think it's a safe bet to assume the staff told him he'll be getting an offer in February. Texas will have to continue to work hard on this one because Harris' dad played for Florida in the mid-90s and they're likely the one program standing in UT's way.
*One stud prospect that wasn't in attendance this weekend was 2013 LB Paul Whitmill of Bastrop. He does have a tentative visit to Austin scheduled for this Tuesday, 6/14, but his plans are still up in the air. This is another guy UT will have to work hard on because his childhood favorite is OU. It will likely help that the Longhorns are currently in good position with his teammate, 2013 DB Antwuan Davis.
*Some of my favorite news of the weekend had to do with 2013 QB Tyrone Swoopes of Whitewright. Not only did he show up to Austin, but he'll be staying on campus for UT's overnight camp until Wednesday. That'll give Bryan Harsin a solid three days to evaluate him for this next recruiting cyle. It's not a secret that he has a little crush on TCU right now, but I see him as a guy that'll eventually come around. Camping at UT for a few days is a great sign of his interest in the Longhorns.
*Status quo with ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale. He and his family were supposed to sit down this weekend and discuss his offers from OU and Texas, but they weren't able to do so because Brooks decided to go out of town with some friends. Brooks' father is out of town the majority of each week due to his job so the weekends are the only time he has to catch his breath. Brooks' parents still need to meet the UT staff and things should progress in a positive direction once that happens.
*Not much to report on 2013 RB James White of Pearland. He was definitely the highest rated RB in attendance yesterday and he mentioned he enjoyed his visit and the opportunity to work with Major Applewhite. He hasn't listed a specific favorite thus far, but he did say that the recent commitment of OL Kennedy Estelle has put the Longhorns in a favorable position. He also lists A&M, Alabama, LSU and OU as his top schools of interest.
*Top prospect 2013 TE Ricky Seals-Jones wasn't able to make J12 this weekend because of family plans, but did make a statment that it was no reflection of how he felt about UT. He's actually not putting much attention on football at this time and doesn't have any camp plans for the forseeable future. If Seals-Jones does commit to a future in football, the Longhorns are in a great position. He's one of a handful of guys (Swoopes included) in this class that idolized Vince Young growing up and has always cheered for UT.
*2013 DT Vincent Taylor of San Antonio Madison was at J12 yesterday but didn't get to participate because he was late with his registration. He said he was pretty disappointed that he didn't get to go out there and compete, but stated he already has plans to return to Austin and meet with the coaches.
*Here are some big names that didn't end up attending the camp yesterday:
WR, Cayleb Jones, S.F. Austin
WR, Prentavious Moorehead, Dallas Kimball (transportation)
WR, Jake Oliver, Dallas Jesuit (broken foot)
TE, Ricky Seals-Jones, Sealy (vacation)
DE, Danielle Hunter, Katy Morton Ranch
DE, Jamal Palmer, McKinney Boyd (Baylor camp)
DT, Isaiah Golden, Elysian Fields (sick)
DT, Ben Hughes, Waco University (transportation, money for registration)
DT, Javonte Magee, San Antonio Sam Houston (transportation)
DT, Justin Manning, Dallas Kimball (transportation)
LB, Paul Whitmill, Bastrop
DB, Colin Blake, San Antonio Brandeis
DB, Justin Thomas, West Orange-Stark (transportation)
*QB Jared Johnson of South Grand Prairie has committed to Baylor.
shyne
06-13-2011, 11:25 AM
They should have got Vince to work some of these summer camps this week, its not like he has OTA's or anything like that.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 11:29 AM
They should have got Vince to work some of these summer camps this week, its not like he has OTA's or anything like that.
I agree. I know that the whole recruiting vibe on campus this summer has been very positive for all of the coaches and recruits that come through. It's been exciting for them to see former players such as Derrick Johnson and Brian Orakpo do their off-season workouts at UT's facilities during the NFL lockout.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 11:30 AM
I wanted to add that DE Torshiro Davis mentioned he'll likely take only three official visits this fall: Alabama, LSU and Texas.
billfromlaketravis
06-13-2011, 12:20 PM
Thanks TFloss. It's a little strange that Cayleb Jones failed to make both J5 and J12. This combined with being ejected from the Lake Travis 7 on 7 tournament concerns me a little bit. I'm not concerned about Jones' commitment to Texas, but you wonder about Jones' character.
I agree we would have heard something by now if Armstead was offered at J12. I don't think something as big as a new offer could slip by the Hook Em 247 , Orangebloods and Inside Texas' staffs. It sounds like the Armsteads left Austin and turned off their phones. Maybe Tre'von and his family have some things to discuss and don't want to talk to the media. It wouldn't surprise me if Mack and Stacy told Armstead to drop Baylor and call them for an offer.
Good news all around on Swoopes. Floss who are the decision makers in the Swoopes camp? His father, mother, head coach or gulp an uncle? I'm hoping for some Swoopes and A'Shawn Robinson bonding in the next three days.
Agreed 3 days should be enough time for Coach Harsin to decide where to prioritize at QB for 2013. Harsin has likely seen the top 3 sophomore quarterbacks in Texas in Chris Johnson, Tyrone Swoopes and Kohl Stewart in the past 2 weeks.
Torshiro Davis very quietly and not so quietly likes Bama a lot. LSU should be deeply concerned on this one. I am happy that Torshiro made it to campus and enjoyed his visit. Agreed Bo Davis keeps us solidly in Torshiro's top 3. Bo is going to have to work his magic on this one as Texas is late to the party.
It'll be interesting to watch if Chris Robinson receives a Junior Day invitation. There's a ton of time to make up ground on Justin Manning, but you wonder if Robinson is a replacement option or a stand alone option.
I read Marcell Harris' crack about the Texas heat, haha. A Florida kid calling Texas hot, well if that's not the kettle calling the pot black. 9 out 10 ain't bad though. I like that Marcell Harris brought his father and his mother. This isn't a recruit checking out different schools on vacation with his buddies, this a young man who brought his family to take a serious look at Texas and only Texas. Florida will be tough competition for Harris, but I think it's safe to say Texas is in his top 2-3.
Paul Whitmill is far and away the best 2013 linebacker in the state of Texas as things stand right now. I watched Whitmill's film this weekend and I was thoroughly impressed. Great speed for a linebacker, and an explosive hitter. I'm not sure if he's a MLB or an OLB at Texas, but Whitmill has great range and can deliver a blow from sideline to sideline. Hopefully he makes it on Tuesday. Plenty of time to make up ground on a recruit that is 30 miles from DKR.
Floss, Daniel Brooks was in Norman the middle of last week correct? Probably have to wait until next weekend before the Brooks family have that sit down talk.
I'd kill for some film on James White. If anybody has a link please post it. It sure seems like White is Texas' number 1 priority at RB for 2013. I wonder if White was told as much at J12? Good news that he enjoyed his visit and working with Major. Major could be very quietly the best recruiter on Texas' staff.
Seals - Jones is making a mistake by not focusing more on football. Hopefully Eric Dickerson will learn his nephew / cousin and steer him towards football. Unlike Derrick Griffin, Seals - Jones is not an elite basketball player. Football is almost certainly Seals - Jones best sport. Hopefully he'll learn that this year. Seals - Jones is expected to be the starting quarterback at Sealy this season.
So Vincent Taylor didn't get to participate because he was late with his registration? Texas should made some exceptions and accepted his paper work late. Taylor is an elite recruit who likes LSU already, it's a good idea to stay in his good graces and let him work out.
Both the Kimball recruits quelled by transportation issues. It's funny that nobody has more problems securing rides than recruits. Hell take a bus. Manning is a lock for Junior Day invitation, and Moorehead could certainly work his way into one.
If Jake Oliver couldn't work out, I don't see the point either in making it down to Austin.
Unfortunate that Isiah Golden was sick. I expected rave reviews from his J12 performance.
TFloss did Colin Janice make it J12? If so, the Justin Thomas transportation issues are suspect.
Javonte Magee was finally offered by LSU. He's gone.
I believe Colin Blake missed J5 because of a family vacation. It's plausible the Blakes are still on vacation. I'd like to see Blake visit Texas sometime during the summer.
Danielle Hunter not making either June camps was a head scratcher until this past Thursday when Texas momentarily dropped their recruitment of Torshiro Davis. A spot might not be there right now for Hunter. Hunter could be waiting for a Texas offer before he visits.
It'll be interesting to watch the Tre'von Armstead developments. If a new Texas does come out, Armstead is the most likely of the in state targets.
In somewhat breaking news, South Houston DB Kenneth Marshall has committed to Aggie.
DesignatedT
06-13-2011, 12:21 PM
S Kenneth Marshall has reportedly committed to A&M today via Billy Liucci. He recently decommitted from OSU.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 01:26 PM
S Kenneth Marshall has reportedly committed to A&M today via Billy Liucci. He recently decommitted from OSU.
Thanks, bud.
Figured he'd wait a little longer for that OU offer, but I guess he realized they're hurting for numbers right now. Good pick-up.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 02:02 PM
Thought y'all would enjoy this video of QB Connor Brewer at one of his 7-on-7 tournaments. Dude's game just gets prettier every time I see a new video and you can tell he's added some good size. This kid can't get to campus fast enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1WuKf5qq8&feature=share
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 02:26 PM
Thanks TFloss. It's a little strange that Cayleb Jones failed to make both J5 and J12. This combined with being ejected from the Lake Travis 7 on 7 tournament concerns me a little bit. I'm not concerned about Jones' commitment to Texas, but you wonder about Jones' character.
Jones definitely has some maturing do and he's said as much. Not trying to cover for the kid, but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's so competitive and he doesn't know how to handle himself when things go wrong. With that said, he's a definite take with or without those issues. It's not something the staff is unfamiliar with as they've scouted him for a couple of years now. I expect that to be taken care of by the coaches quickly if those issues carry over into UT.
Good news all around on Swoopes. Floss who are the decision makers in the Swoopes camp? His father, mother, head coach or gulp an uncle? I'm hoping for some Swoopes and A'Shawn Robinson bonding in the next three days.
I don't know for sure, but I do know that his mother is a coach and teacher at Whitewright HS. I assume she'll be a big part of his recruitment and from what I've read sounds like a solid lady. No shady characters around him that I know of.
Floss, Daniel Brooks was in Norman the middle of last week correct? Probably have to wait until next weekend before the Brooks family have that sit down talk.
Brooks did make it up to OU for their camp last week and I haven't heard anything about awkward situations with their staff because of the Texas offer. I'm glad he's able to take a vacation with his buddies, get away for a while and take some time to reflect on everything. I still think he ends up at Texas when all is said and done.
I'd kill for some film on James White. If anybody has a link please post it. It sure seems like White is Texas' number 1 priority at RB for 2013. I wonder if White was told as much at J12? Good news that he enjoyed his visit and working with Major. Major could be very quietly the best recruiter on Texas' staff.
I think White is their #1 priority at RB unless another stud emerges this fall. Estelle will surely be a big piece to that puzzle.
So Vincent Taylor didn't get to participate because he was late with his registration? Texas should made some exceptions and accepted his paper work late. Taylor is an elite recruit who likes LSU already, it's a good idea to stay in his good graces and let him work out.
Don't be surprised if Taylor isn't one of the top priorities for the next class. While talented, I've heard criticism that he tends to disappear in games. I think you'll see the staff be more serious about landing Manning and Golden. He may be a lot like Magee in the sense that you lose him after an LSU offer is thrown his way.
TFloss did Colin Janice make it J12? If so, the Justin Thomas transportation issues are suspect.
I didn't hear a peep about the West Orange-Stark clan. I know that's a long trip to Austin for them. My guess is he didn't make it.
Javonte Magee was finally offered by LSU. He's gone.
We'll see how much of a "package deal" he is with his buddies now that his favorite school has offered. LSU or Baylor.
Danielle Hunter not making either June camps was a head scratcher until this past Thursday when Texas momentarily dropped their recruitment of Torshiro Davis. A spot might not be there right now for Hunter. Hunter could be waiting for a Texas offer before he visits.
I think the staff has moved on from Hunter for the time being and Davis is the only DE they'll pursue unless Spence shows more interest.
It'll be interesting to watch the Tre'von Armstead developments. If a new Texas does come out, Armstead is the most likely of the in state targets.
I think the idea is to go all out for Theus and Peat while continuing to stay close with Armstead and maybe a guy like Fuller. Just in case you get bad vibes on the five-star studs you can re-visit those recruitments at a later date if it's not too late. It's a tricky situation but I do think UT needs one more OL for this class.
billfromlaketravis
06-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Thanks for answering all my questions Floss. Good stuff.
It sounds like the Texas staff made some hard choices last week at OT and DE. Going for the OOS studs is the right approach. With ships being so tight, the staff might as well swing for the fences. If they miss, they miss, the spot probably wasn't there to begin with.
I didn't mean to imply that Cayleb Jones was a bad kid. When immaturity and competitiveness meet it can cause some explosive reactions. I'm glad that Cayleb is a passionate player. It's better than the alternative.
Swoopes sounds like a good kid with a solid family environment behind him. I don't think there's any shenanigans there, I was just curious what kind of family structure Swoopes was in. Texas has done exceedingly well with teaching / coaching parents.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Thanks for answering all my questions Floss. Good stuff.
I didn't mean to imply that Cayleb Jones was a bad kid. When immaturity and competitiveness meet it can cause some explosive reactions. I'm glad that Cayleb is a passionate player. It's better than the alternative.
You're welcome.
I know you weren't trying to say he's a bad kid. He's not at all. He just has some maturing to do and needs to control his temper at times. I always like to see emotion from players (even if it's bad at times) because it shows they care and want to win at all costs. How many WRs on the team last year were just ho-hum about everything? Thankfully two of them graduated.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 04:13 PM
Update on WR Brock Fitzhenry...there was some chatter about him not returning to school next semester and possibly transferring out. He's not currently enrolled in summer school, but as of today he will return to school for the second summer session and report to pre-season workouts with the team. He only has about 30 hours left on his degree so it looks like he doesn't want to sell himself short. I imagine he'll get his degree next spring and likely move on from there despite having remaining eligibility (unless he wants to do grad school).
billfromlaketravis
06-13-2011, 04:36 PM
Update on WR Brock Fitzhenry...there was some chatter about him not returning to school next semester and possibly transferring out. He's not currently enrolled in summer school, but as of today he will return to school for the second summer session and report to pre-season workouts with the team. He only has about 30 hours left on his degree so it looks like he doesn't want to sell himself short. I imagine he'll get his degree next spring and likely move on from there despite having remaining eligibility (unless he wants to do grad school).
Geez, Texas can't catch a break attrition wise. I can't fault Brock. He seems like a kid that wants his degree more than he wants to play football. He could get an excellent degree at Rice, but hell they probably don't want him. The Texas staff might want to strongly examine Brock's options before the season. I could see Brock giving up football to focus on school.
Some very bad scholarships will be off the books after this season.
Floss is there anything to Connor Wood not being enrolled at Texas this summer?
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 05:00 PM
Floss is there anything to Connor Wood not being enrolled at Texas this summer?
I don't think so. It looks like he's using the first summer session to work out in California with his QB coach, Tom Martinez. Sad news is Martinez recently found out he's dying due to complications from diabetes and doesn't have much time left. That will obviously change Wood's plans. I still think we see at least one QB transfer out within the year. My only questions are:
1.) Who receives snaps if Garrett Gilbert doesn't perform in the first couple of games?
2.) Will McCoy or Wood transfer if not given the starting job? Could both of them transfer if David Ash is the second option after Gilbert?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tom-brady-quarterback-coach-tom-martinez-health-deteriorates-061211
billfromlaketravis
06-13-2011, 05:21 PM
I don't think so. It looks like he's using the first summer session to work out in California with his QB coach, Tom Martinez. Sad news is Martinez recently found out he's dying due to complications from diabetes and doesn't have much time left. That will obviously change Wood's plans. I still think we see at least one QB transfer out within the year. My only questions are:
1.) Who receives snaps if Garrett Gilbert doesn't perform in the first couple of games?
2.) Will McCoy or Wood transfer if not given the starting job? Could both of them transfer if David Ash is the second option after Gilbert?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tom-brady-quarterback-coach-tom-martinez-health-deteriorates-061211
Tragic news on Tom Martinez. I hope he is able to get heart and kidney transplants.
1) I think Case is first off the bench if / when Gilbert has difficulties.
2) I think Wood will transfer if he doesn't win the starting job. I don't see Case transferring in any scenario despite rumors. I think Case will hold on to the hope that's he one injury away from being the starting quarterback. Additionally, I think Case is too loyal to Texas and his teammates to transfer.
If Gilbert struggles and Texas has a losing record after OU, Texas should turn to Ash for the remainder of the season. At that point, it'd be about preparing the team for next year and hoping for a bowl appearance.
TFloss32
06-13-2011, 05:33 PM
Good Q&A with freshman RB Malcolm Brown:
http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/061211aaa.html
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 11:00 AM
Any news on Paul Whitmill visiting today?
TFloss32
06-14-2011, 11:19 AM
Any news on Paul Whitmill visiting today?
Haven't seen a thing, bud. I know it was iffy to begin with.
TFloss32
06-14-2011, 11:22 AM
*Oklahoma WR Trey Metoyer will be spending his first semester of college at Tyler JC. A lot of people (including myself) were furious that Texas didn't go after this guy last year even though he was a grade risk, but now we know he wouldn't have qualified.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Trey-Metoyer-84739
*OL Andrus Peat will be taking a visit to South Bend this weekend. He is expected to be in Austin during the last week of June.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 11:51 AM
*Oklahoma WR Trey Metoyer will be spending his first semester of college at Tyler JC. A lot of people (including myself) were furious that Texas didn't go after this guy last year even though he was a grade risk, but now we know he wouldn't have qualified.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Trey-Metoyer-84739
*OL Andrus Peat will be taking a visit to South Bend this weekend. He is expected to be in Austin during the last week of June.
OU has possible early leads on Justin Manning and Paul Whitmill. Both the top sophomores at their positions. Yeah I'd say OU will be coming back next year. UT has dominated OU in head to head recruiting battles in Texas, but rumors of their recruiting demise have been vastly exaggerated.
The old coaching staff couldn't do much right in recruiting the past few years, but they knew how to read a transcript. A lot of the local and national analysts downplayed Metoyer's qualifying issues, but obviously those concerns were well founded. I'd add that OU might have to recruit Metoyer all over again once he graduates from Tyler JC in 2 years should Metoyer be forced to pursue that path. Tough break for the Sooners. I'm shocked that Metoyer couldn't qualify at OU. If Metoyer had signed with OK State it might be a different story...
It's my understanding that IF Metoyer makes a qualifying ACT score during the summer he will be able to enroll at OU for the fall semester.
Peat is also scheduled to visit Michigan on the same trip. I don't think Notre Dame and Michigan are serious threats to land Peat, but the Peats do have Upper Midwest ties. Andrus' father, Todd Peat played high school football in the Upper Midwest, and his college football at Northern Illinois.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 01:31 PM
Per Rivals, 2013 Lake Travis WR Dannon Cavil was offered by Clemson OC Chad Morris. Chad Morris was previously the head coach at Lake Travis. I anticipate this will be the first of many big time offers for Cavil. Cavil could become the most heavily recruited Lake Travis player since Garrett Gilbert.
You have to like Texas' chances given the proximity and Cavil's legacy status. Dannon is of course the nephew of Longhorn Legend Kwame Cavil. It'll be interesting to see if Dannon is invited to one of the Junior Days. The size, speed and film are there for a Texas offer.
Yes I realize Lake Travis is a system offense. That is certainly a concern with QBs, but not with running backs and wide receivers.
Cavil's film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfWwa-R41d8
TFloss32
06-14-2011, 03:08 PM
After saying he had had no plans to attend summer camps, the state's #1 prospect, TE Ricky Seals-Jones of Sealy, showed up in Austin today to work out with the other prospects like QB Tyrone Swoopes. Not sure if he'll be staying on campus overnight, but this is likely a good indicator of his feelings for UT.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 03:16 PM
After saying he had had no plans to attend summer camps, the state's #1 prospect, TE Ricky Seals-Jones of Sealy, showed up in Austin today to work out with the other prospects like QB Tyrone Swoopes. Not sure if he'll be staying on campus overnight, but this is likely a good indicator of his feelings for UT.
Wow! Great news Floss. A'Shawn Robinson, Seal - Jones and Tyrone Swoopes working out together on the 40. Hopefully bonds will form. It's all speculation, but maybe Eric Dickerson suggested to Ricky that he take in a couple football camps this summer.
Texas fans have dreamed of a play maker at TE for quite some time. Hopefully 2013 is finally the year that we get one.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Potentially bad news on the Geno Smith front:
@KippLAdams
Kipp Adams
St. Pius X Army All-American CB Geno Smth is close to making his commitment. #Auburn & #Alabama lead over #NotreDame #Tennessee & #Texas.
Kipp Adams is a Rivals recruiting reporter for their Georgia affiliate. If Smith is nearing a decision before even visiting Texas, that doesn't bode well for the Longhorns.
In my opinion, if Smith commits elsewhere, Coach Akina should offer Colin Blake.
TFloss32
06-14-2011, 04:37 PM
Potentially bad news on the Geno Smith front:
@KippLAdams
Kipp Adams
St. Pius X Army All-American CB Geno Smth is close to making his commitment. #Auburn & #Alabama lead over #NotreDame #Tennessee & #Texas.
Kipp Adams is a Rivals recruiting reporter for their Georgia affiliate. If Smith is nearing a decision before even visiting Texas, that doesn't bode well for the Longhorns.
In my opinion, if Smith commits elsewhere, Coach Akina should offer Colin Blake.
I was just about to post this, Bill. Good stuff.
What a weird turn of events if true. Dude was pretty hyped to visit Austin this summer. I'm not sure how much to read into this tweet since the guy works for a Georgia site and UGA isn't in the race at all.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 04:57 PM
I was just about to post this, Bill. Good stuff.
What a weird turn of events if true. Dude was pretty hyped to visit Austin this summer. I'm not sure how much to read into this tweet since the guy works for a Georgia site and UGA isn't in the race at all.
I've seen similar posts on Scout affiliate Twitter pages also. The story seems to have legs. I hope it's inaccurate. Obviously, I'd like to see Geno Smith take all of his unofficial visits and then make a decision.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 04:58 PM
I'm sure our resident Auburn expert will be along shortly to comment on this news.
shyne
06-14-2011, 05:44 PM
I'm sure our resident Auburn expert will be along shortly to comment on this news.
lol was thinking the same thing.
billfromlaketravis
06-14-2011, 06:40 PM
Excellent stuff from Twitter on Ricky Seals - Jones' visit to Texas:
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Most of you know Eric Dickerson is Ricky's cousin. Jones told me Dickerson just told him to go to school where he wanted and would be happy
10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Ricky plays for a AAU team called the Texas Pro. He is a 3/4 forward and they will be playing almost every weekend until July 30th
13 minutes ago
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Coaches told Jones to work on the little things... showed him a few drills to do to continue to make himself a better WR.
24 minutes ago
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Jones mentioned that his Basketball to Football ratio was about even now putting it at 50/50 chance he would play one or the other.
25 minutes ago
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Ricky told me it felt good being the #1 recruit in Texas but that didn't mean he could stop working.
26 minutes ago
JB_UTSN Jordan Bishop
Just got the call from Ricky Seals Jones...
billfromlaketravis
06-15-2011, 10:17 AM
The Longhorn Network is set to launch on August 26th. A preview of some of the programming :
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/06/15/first-slate-of-shows-announced-for-longhorn-network-launch-date-set/
billfromlaketravis
06-15-2011, 08:16 PM
Louisiana LB Lorenzo Phillips has committed to Florida. Possible Gator Mafia conspiracy?
DesignatedT
06-15-2011, 09:31 PM
Interesting about Phillips.
billfromlaketravis
06-15-2011, 10:02 PM
Good stuff on the Marcell Harris front:
GhostofBigRoy Wescott Eberts
Texas is positioned about as well as possible early on to eventually land Harris. Still open, but 'Horns made a positive impression.
10 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply
GhostofBigRoy Wescott Eberts
Even though Marcell Harris is a Gator legacy, his dad said he might have made a different decision had he visited Texas (per Gatorbait).
Credit needs to go Coach Akina. Harris and Agholor both had excellent visits to Texas. Where has Mack hid this excellent out of state recruiter for all these years?
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 08:52 AM
Some good news that BFLT will like...Duane Akina and DB Colin Blake of San Antonio Brandeis ended up chatting for a while last night about a future offer. Makes you think those recent rumors about DB Geno Smith have real legs. Blake was supposedly told by Akina that there is one remaining DB slot to fill and he'd be talking with Mack Brown in the next few days about getting him approved for an offer. Blake mentioned in his interview that "burnt orange is good looking color" and he's a aware of the success in the UT secondary over the years. I think a part of him has been waiting on that Texas offer for a while and it feels like he'd pounce on it if given the opportunity. Hopefully we'll see movement on this one by next week.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Colin-Blake-124103
billfromlaketravis
06-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Some good news that BFLT will like...Duane Akina and DB Colin Blake of San Antonio Brandeis ended up chatting for a while last night about a future offer. Makes you think those recent rumors about DB Geno Smith have real legs. Blake was supposedly told by Akina that there is one remaining DB slot to fill and he'd be talking with Mack Brown in the next few days about getting him approved for an offer. Blake mentioned in his interview that "burnt orange is good looking color" and he's a aware of the success in the UT secondary over the years. I think a part of him has been waiting on that Texas offer for a while and it feels like he'd pounce on it if given the opportunity. Hopefully we'll see movement on this one by next week.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Colin-Blake-124103
Very good news TFloss. Blake is a hell of a player, and one can't discount the pissing in Aggie's Cheerios factor if Blake commits to Texas. They've been pretty confident about Blake for some time. Must be Shermalounger's bedazzled letters of interest.
Agreed I'd like to see some movement on Blake and Texas soon. I have a feeling it's only a matter of time before Blake starts receiving big time national offers. Blake isn't as good as Geno Smith, but he's hardly a consolation prize. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Blake could be the top in state DB by the end of 2011 season.
I haven't seen any news on Geno Smith since the tweets on Tuesday. Hopefully it was just speculation. As much as I like Colin Blake, I want Geno Smith to least make his Texas visit. In fact Connor Brewer tweeted this yesteray:
@ConnorBrewer7
Connor Brewer
#THEOPENING with my boys @Cayleb_JonesTx4 @SmithGeno4 @BrianStumpfESPN gunna be an awesome time to play.... And recruit haha
So Texas has one more DB offer left per Akina's conversation with Blake, and Duane is going hard after Nelson Agholor. One has to think that Agholor's offer is as an ATH. My understanding is that Agholor was told by the Texas coaching staff during his visit that he could play both offense and defense. Recruiting Agholor as an athlete is the right move in my opinion. He's indicated in a few interviews that he enjoys playing wide receiver the most.
Wow scholarships are tight. 20 - 21 is now a very plausible maximum class size for 2012. If you break it down, Brooks, Agholor, Peat, Theus, Geno Smith and Torshiro Davis hold committable offers and are still actively being pursued by the Texas staff. If they all committed that would take the class up to a still relatively small 23.
billfromlaketravis
06-16-2011, 10:01 AM
To clarify: I have no idea what The Opening is, but Brian Stumpf is ESPN Rise’s Director of Football Events. I assume it’s some kind of combine or camp that Connor Brewer, Cayleb Jones and Geno Smith will all be attending. Good to hear Connor is working on Geno Smith. It’s hard to argue with Connor’s recruiting results thus far.
BU Spur
06-16-2011, 10:16 AM
We'll see how much of a "package deal" he is with his buddies now that his favorite school has offered. LSU or Baylor.
For the record TFloss, none of Javonte's teammates have offers from Baylor nor will they likely be getting one. Baylor's out of the picture otherwise.
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 11:11 AM
For the record TFloss, none of Javonte's teammates have offers from Baylor nor will they likely be getting one. Baylor's out of the picture otherwise.
BU Spur-
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I know that Baylor has been looking at Green and Thomas for some time now without ever offering. I don't know if BU was considering them strictly to get on Magee's good side or if there was a legit interest there. Latest rumors say Magee has soured on Baylor because of pressure to commit early. You have any insight on that?
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 11:19 AM
To clarify: I have no idea what The Opening is, but Brian Stumpf is ESPN Rise’s Director of Football Events. I assume it’s some kind of combine or camp that Connor Brewer, Cayleb Jones and Geno Smith will all be attending. Good to hear Connor is working on Geno Smith. It’s hard to argue with Connor’s recruiting results thus far.
Here's your answer, Bill. Looks like six Texas commitments will be there.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=6595180
shyne
06-16-2011, 11:26 AM
So Daniel Brooks is all in with OU again?
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 11:30 AM
Bill-
In reference to your other post, Agholor is a guy that they will recruit until the end no matter what, regardless of scholarship numbers. He's just that good. I'm attaching a highlight reel for those you who've never seen him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgDTBmew_HM
If the staff plans to offer Blake in the next few weeks, that makes me wonder if this is at all related to the recruitment of ATH Daniel Brooks of Rockdale.
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 11:39 AM
So Daniel Brooks is all in with OU again?
Shyne-
I see you're referencing the Recruitocosm article when it comes to Brooks. I don't think it's necessarily the case but that's Jesus' feeling after speaking with one of his sources about DB Colin Blake. It's possible that Blake would commit sooner than Brooks and the staff feels that Blake is equally or more talented a DB. In addition to that, Blake has the size. Who knows...they may try to take both.
The overall problem is it seems like the staff is having trouble making up their mind as far as where to devote those last four or five scholarships. One week they want two DBs, the other week they want an ATH and a DB, then it's two OLs and so on. It's really tough to nail down where their heads are at and the drama with DE Torshiro Davis last week speaks to that. They changed their mind on him in a matter of days. All I know is the staff is very concerned with the 85 man limit right now and also want to make sure they have enough wiggle room for 2013.
TFloss32
06-16-2011, 11:44 AM
Here's the article to get you updated on the latest with the 2012 guys. A rundown on the 2013 guys will be out tomorrow with a piece on DE Torshiro Davis to follow.
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/06/16/remaining-targets-for-2012-longhorns-recruiting-class-percentages-for-the-people/
BU Spur
06-16-2011, 12:19 PM
BU Spur-
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I know that Baylor has been looking at Green and Thomas for some time now without ever offering. I don't know if BU was considering them strictly to get on Magee's good side or if there was a legit interest there. Latest rumors say Magee has soured on Baylor because of pressure to commit early. You have any insight on that?
That's the same thing I've heard.
Leo Thomas has been a candidate for possibly being offered. I don't think Baylor has any real interest in Raphael Green or Prince Eshan.
billfromlaketravis
06-16-2011, 12:40 PM
Shyne-
I see you're referencing the Recruitocosm article when it comes to Brooks. I don't think it's necessarily the case but that's Jesus' feeling after speaking with one of his sources about DB Colin Blake. It's possible that Blake would commit sooner than Brooks and the staff feels that Blake is equally or more talented a DB. In addition to that, Blake has the size. Who knows...they may try to take both.
The overall problem is it seems like the staff is having trouble making up their mind as far as where to devote those last four or five scholarships. One week they want two DBs, the other week they want an ATH and a DB, then it's two OLs and so on. It's really tough to nail down where their heads are at and the drama with DE Torshiro Davis last week speaks to that. They changed their mind on him in a matter of days. All I know is the staff is very concerned with the 85 man limit right now and also want to make sure they have enough wiggle room for 2013.
Wow Floss, that's an extremely fluid situation behind closed doors. I think the staff should take the NFL Draft approach. Rank your targets, and then take the best player available regardless of position. If Texas locks down the last DB spot with Blake or Geno Smith, there aren't any more pressing needs in the 2012 class. Every recruit after that would be a luxury.
The staff should be concerned about the 85 man limit, nobody is leaving the program. It might be time for another round of harsh reality sit downs during fall camp. "You will not play at Texas, you should transfer if you want to play football" is a catch phrase I'd throw out there.
Texas should take a large class in 2013. The 2013 in state class is shaping up to be extremely deep and talented. I don't think we'll see any DLTs or Bluietts in the 2013 class. There's no need to take any reaches given the depth.
I like Blake a lot better than Brooks. Yes Blake has much better size, but corner is already his primary position. Blue chip pure corners are very, very rare in this era of recruiting.
Agreed Agholor should be pursued until the very, very end. Agholor won't come across another recruiter that wants him more than Coach Akina.
shyne
06-16-2011, 12:48 PM
Colin Blake is a man on film, plays very physical and covers ground in a hurry. I'm not really sure what kind of coverage skills he has by looking at his highlights.
He looks like he could also be a hell of a free safety also. I live just down the street from Farris Stadium where Brandeis plays alot of their games, I will go see him live in the fall is he commits to Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2026 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.