Mountaintop Monastery of Dejounte Murray

[KingKev]

Great watch. Won’t resonate with 90% of you.

[rjv]

jax ain't ever gonna let that go. :lol

[scott]

Didn't still finish it, but:

- DJ just confirming spurs and him were going on different direction and he wanted to play in a competitive team (spurs or others) and with all the trading rumors, they ultimately had a discussion about teams he'd like to be traded to...

- Jax saying spurs are great, professional organisation but if you're not Duncan, Parker or Manu, they won't hesitate trading you somewhere where you'd "disappear" cos the have to play you again... And that they cut him just before the POs during his second gig so he can't sign with another team (and punishing them I guess)... BS, spurs always try to please their players in trades. He was just a narcissic asshole who thought he should have been the man and play over Manu...

This sounds like... prudent management?

[BatManu20]

ST gonna melt down after this one :lol

[LeBowen]

DJ saying he felt like Pop sided with Derrick in the post-ACL season. And how it probably happened because he wasn't a yes man.

[timtonymanu]

Murray wanted to go to a competitive team that is currently fighting for a play in spot. Sound familiar lol

[The Truth #6]

I’ll try to watch with an open mind. Pop can be a hard ass. Never loved how Malik and Bruce left. At the same time, DJM and Sjax are typically full of shit, so I think this is going to be a complicated situation.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Murray wanted to go to a competitive team that is currently fighting for a play in spot. Sound familiar lol
One of the most overrated players in the NBA. Still can’t shoot and ruins the spacing

[Mal]

Of my, DJ is acting like total asshole. Spurs dodged a bullet here

[KingKev]

Funny because Spurstalk will take all the negatives based on other ppl’s comments without even watching the show.

DJ was an incredibly humble and candid young man in this interview. Well spoken, articulate and didn’t beat around the bush. Gave props where they were due. Talked about things that he didn’t enjoy. Didn’t shy away from the harder questions that everyone quietly knows about PATFO and the San Antonio Spurs.

I hope after Pop retires and the front office is given their wings this franchise can move into the new era of the NBA and become competitive again. Until that happens keep drafting choir boys who aren’t actually very good at basketball.

[scott]

Didn't still finish it, but:

- DJ just confirming spurs and him were going on different directiosn and he wanted to play in a competitive team (spurs or others) and with all the trading rumors, they ultimately had a discussion about teams he'd like to be traded to...

- Jax saying spurs are great, professional organisation but if you're not Duncan, Parker or Manu, they won't hesitate trading you somewhere where you'd "disappear" cos the have to play you again... And that they cut him just before the POs during his second gig so he can't sign with another team (and punish them I guess)... BS, spurs always try to please their players in trades. He was just a narcissic asshole who thought he should have been the man and play over Manu...

What is confusing to me is how this doesn't seem to jive with the way he acted post-trade. Sounds like the Spurs and he worked together on finding the best trade partner for him, so why the sour grapes after the trade was completed? My guess is that reaction was mostly to shit talking fans, and less about the Spurs org.

[KingKev]

What is confusing to me is how this doesn't seem to jive with the way he acted post-trade. Sounds like the Spurs and he worked together on finding the best trade partner for him, so why the sour grapes after the trade was completed? My guess is that reaction was mostly to shit talking fans, and less about the Spurs org.

Agreed. Not to mention he probably had/has some underlying resentment towards us for reasons which are potentially justified.

[TD 21]

You had to know this was always coming, the only thing more predictable was a certain disgrace of a poster lapping it up.

I would never waste time listening to anything Jackson related, but the quote about Parker is bizarre. Guy returned way ahead of schedule from an injury that ended Barkley's career, yet was supposed to be okay with playing caddy to non blue chip prospects, on a sub middle team where he'd have been an awkward fit (excess ball dominant non shooters)?

The Spurs took a chance on this knucklehead when one one else would, handed his raw, unproven ass "the keys" over a future hall-of-famer, gave him a set for life $64M contract despite him tearing his ACL, provided a platform for him to counting stat his way to an All-Star appearance, then traded him to more of a win now situation and somehow all this arrogant, delusional, immature brat has done is whine.

[KingKev]

You had to know this was always coming, the only thing more predictable was a certain disgrace of a poster lapping it up.

I would never waste time listening to anything Jackson related, but the quote about Parker is bizarre. Guy returned way ahead of schedule from an injury that ended Barkley's career, yet was supposed to be okay with playing caddy to non blue chip prospects, on a sub middle team where he'd have been an awkward fit (excess ball dominant non shooters)?

The Spurs took a chance on this knucklehead when one one else would, handed his raw, unproven ass "the keys" over a future hall-of-famer, gave him a set for life $64M contract despite him tearing his ACL, provided a platform for him to counting stat his way to an All-Star appearance, then traded him to more of a win now situation and somehow all this arrogant, delusional, immature brat has done is whine.

:lmao

these yellow bones man

[Joseph Kony]

*slurp* *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*.

we get it

[TD 21]

:lmao

these yellow bones man

:lmao Still thinking I'm Asian and being a racist scumbag.

[KingKev]

we get it

Another fking muppet who only comes for politics. We all know you have no roots in Africa Kyle.

[emmo]

I thought that was a great short video. I think it's entirely understandable from his point of view.

So, my question is this: If we win the Wemby sweepstakes and Murray realizes he didn't really have it that bad in SA... Would you take him back as a FA in summer '24 for Wemby's sophomore season? Just in time to get Atlanta's '25, '26 & '27 lottery picks as we improve.

No fucking way.

[InRareForm]

Not necessary to throw a jab at Parker like that.

Parkers career >>>>>> Instagram balla

[Atl Spur]

KK is on one today……who pissed in your cheerios? DJ is a clown and not worth air you giving him. The dude is mad selfish and a fraud! Tell the dude to pick another face because two isn’t enough.

[Mugen]

Funny because Spurstalk will take all the negatives based on other ppl’s comments without even watching the show.

DJ was an incredibly humble and candid young man in this interview. Well spoken, articulate and didn’t beat around the bush. Gave props where they were due. Talked about things that he didn’t enjoy. Didn’t shy away from the harder questions that everyone quietly knows about PATFO and the San Antonio Spurs.

I hope after Pop retires and the front office is given their wings this franchise can move into the new era of the NBA and become competitive again. Until that happens keep drafting choir boys who aren’t actually very good at basketball.

Based on recent history, this hasn't even been the case tbh :lol

[KingKev]

Based on recent history, this hasn't even been the case tbh :lol

I’d rather a young man from the projects who actually balls versus a project who can’t hoop but passes a background check only to show his balls….

[Joseph Kony]

Another fking muppet who only comes for politics. We all know you have no roots in Africa Kyle.

:lmao sick burn you fucking retard. did you just figure out that TD 21 is not actually Tim Duncan also?

[Joseph Kony]

The Spurs took a chance on this knucklehead when one one else would, handed his raw, unproven ass "the keys" over a future hall-of-famer, gave him a set for life $64M contract despite him tearing his ACL, provided a platform for him to counting stat his way to an All-Star appearance, then traded him to more of a win now situation and somehow all this arrogant, delusional, immature brat has done is whine.

100% this tbh. instagram baller is a fake ass loser. he'll talk about how shitty ATL was and how he felt slighted being the #2 being Trae when he goes to his next team

[John B]

Instagram Baller is seeking attention and getting it. What’s new? As one of the other posters here said, if Detroit drafted this guy? he’d be out of the league by now. Seriously he should be grateful Spurs help to put him a great situation and just shut up. Fuck Murray!

[timtonymanu]

Funny how guys like Jackson, Murray, Blair (already out of the league) have made claims that the spurs “held them back” but all 3 guys would have been long out of the league had they never developed on the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

Murray just wanted to go where there were better strip clubs.

[KingKev]

Murray just wanted to go where there were better strip clubs.

He literally talks about how he doesn’t go out in the interview. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke and ppl have to drag him out of his house. Barely indulges in the ATL party scene.

One of the reasons is that he can’t stand dumbass media members and ppl like yourself who always have something to say.

[mikec]

Great watch. Won’t resonate with 90% of you.

:lol How many boxes of tissues did you go through sweetie when you heard DJ got traded? Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned lordy :cry

[Mr. Body]

He literally talks about how he doesn’t go out in the interview. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke and ppl have to drag him out of his house.

Yeah, this is 100% bullshit.

Interview is laughable.

[spurraider21]

lol stak starts off the spurs stuff by saying the system held back murray and he wasnt able to grow as a player there. what? :lol... did stak not see murray's numbers year by year?

[Dverde]

How hard is it to take the high road and move on. He obviously didn’t hate being in San Antonio if he signed an extension. They help make him a lot of money. I feel this is going to get him boos when he deserves cheers for all he did in SA. He stirred all this BS for a free YouTube show that will pay him nothing.

[spurraider21]

eh. having watched the whole interview i dont think it was as bad as the stinger made it seem. still like him tbh. jackson was trying to bait him the entire time to say more and more bad things :lol

main dirty laundry he aired was that tony didnt talk to him and didnt try to mentor him at all (bailed to charlotte immediately after getting benched, etc)

[exstatic]

Didn't still finish it, but:

- DJ just confirming spurs and him were going on different directiosn and he wanted to play in a competitive team (spurs or others) and with all the trading rumors, they ultimately had a discussion about teams he'd like to be traded to...

- Jax saying spurs are great, professional organisation but if you're not Duncan, Parker or Manu, they won't hesitate trading you somewhere where you'd "disappear" cos the have to play you again... And that they cut him just before the POs during his second gig so he can't sign with another team (and punish them I guess)... BS, spurs always try to please their players in trades. He was just a narcissic asshole who thought he should have been the man and play over Manu...

Grapevine says they cut him in 2013 because he fucked Amy Duncan, and that the story about Manu and Danny Green was to protect Tim.

[exstatic]

He literally talks about how he doesn’t go out in the interview. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke and ppl have to drag him out of his house. Barely indulges in the ATL party scene.

One of the reasons is that he can’t stand dumbass media members and ppl like yourself who always have something to say.

Spurs were boring to him coming up, but this is his lifestyle? Something isn’t adding up.

[Atl Spur]

Murray just wanted to go where there were better strip clubs.

Big Boi told ya’ll…….. them hoes don’t cut like pleasers!

[Atl Spur]

BTW ……….DJ is full of shit! That clowns been to the flame ( blue flame ).

[ambchang]

Spurs were boring to him coming up, but this is his lifestyle? Something isn’t adding up.

He stated the spurs playing style was boring and even noted he like AI growing up. He said it was greatness and it was all passing and cutting. Made them win though. SJax then said none of that would work if it wasn’t for Duncan.

[JPB]

Some players are clueless and out of the NBA when they retire, others get it and en up in coaching or FO staffs.

just a bunch of self-centered guys who think they're 10 times smarter than they actually are and analyze eveything from their own little perspective and ego.

I guess people in Atlanta can't wait to see what Murray will say of them when he'll leave. How ironic when you know the atmosphere in that Hawks locker room...

[John B]

I'm sure these clowns will not be invited in Tony's HOF induction. "That was the year I took Tony's job and he didn't like it." Geez Tony was 55 and back from the same injury that took Nephew down, dumbass

[manufan10]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325875300_593564102607965_5868412144836399354_n.jp g?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=5HHM7uljxG8AX-EoFR7&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfDKAZykikjS8QCzV1kV7WksLL3h2Kw65Mf834jIczuP iA&oe=63CF75B5

[Dverde]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325875300_593564102607965_5868412144836399354_n.jp g?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=5HHM7uljxG8AX-EoFR7&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfDKAZykikjS8QCzV1kV7WksLL3h2Kw65Mf834jIczuP iA&oe=63CF75B5

Unnecessary Capitalization checks out. I’m sure the Spurs are leaving out 95% off the dumb shit DJ did during his time.

[manufan10]

Unnecessary Capitalization checks out. I’m sure the Spurs are leaving out 95% off the dumb shit DJ did during his time.

It's legit. Look up spursmemes_ on Instagram, and this comment is on their second post.

[Ariel]

In the interview he said the Spurs were the only team who honored their word to draft him (when multiple other teams went back on their promise) and even tried to move up to get him, that he was grateful for them signing him to a contract after his injury, that the decision to part ways was mutual and the FO asked him where he wanted to go. He took over a legendary PG who had to leave to make room for him... it's difficult to try to paint the Spurs in a bad light even by his own words. Any player who watches the interview and analyzes his comments, or even those of SJax, and has a couple of working neurons and common sense, should actually come away with a positive impression of the Spurs.

[daslicer]

He literally talks about how he doesn’t go out in the interview. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke and ppl have to drag him out of his house. Barely indulges in the ATL party scene.

One of the reasons is that he can’t stand dumbass media members and ppl like yourself who always have something to say.

I don't believe that he just recently knocked up the baby mama of the rapper NBAyoungboy.

[John B]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325875300_593564102607965_5868412144836399354_n.jp g?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=5HHM7uljxG8AX-EoFR7&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AfDKAZykikjS8QCzV1kV7WksLL3h2Kw65Mf834jIczuP iA&oe=63CF75B5

I guess Dejounte Fan can enlighten us on the other 95% this bozo left out. How anyone can continue defend his passive-aggressive punk ass attitude is crazy

[Dverde]

Been looking on Reddit and almost all the posts think he’s a clown for his comments especially the Parker comments.

[spurraider21]

Spurs were boring to him coming up, but this is his lifestyle? Something isn’t adding up.
when describing why he thought the spurs were boring, he was referring to the on-court style of play. not the party life.

[spurraider21]

Been looking on Reddit and almost all the posts think he’s a clown for his comments especially the Parker comments.
https://i.imgur.com/ic0ZMVx.gif

[ambchang]

Honestly the interview was fine. Most of the dissing was from SJax, and he was just goading DJM into saying negative things about the spurs, which he barely did. Then it about Parker was just that. He wanted Parker as a mentor and Parker scooted, all the shade was thrown by SJax.

I’m more perplexed by his Twitter response though, he’s doubling down on things he didn’t say, which is just weird.

[talkspurs]

One of the most overrated players in the NBA. Still can’t shoot and ruins the spacing

You obviously dont follow the NBA and just go off what people say. He is shooting 36% on 5.5 3s and almost 46% overall.

[Chinook]

I’m more perplexed by his Twitter response though, he’s doubling down on things he didn’t say, which is just weird.

Yep, and my worry is that he's going to act out and either diss Pop or the fans and sort of allow his reputation with the team and community be wrecked for no reason. The Spurs' PR team is top-notch when it comes to keeping guys on the team clean with the media. Primo had to be a flagrant predator to finally get news about him, and even then you have fans talking about him coming back because most of the shit he did hasn't come to light.

[Mr. Body]

Dejounte doing us a solid and losing to the Hornets.

[Ice009]

Am I remembering wrong? I thought Tony Parker stepped aside to let Dejounte start? I thought he had a meeting in Pop's office and was OK with it? Dejounte is making it sound like Pop forced TP to step down? I haven't watched the interview, so I am not 100% sure what was said.

[Dverde]

Good quotes from Dejounte about Parker. Not lining up with his latest comments.

https://andscape.com/features/tony-parker-on-dejounte-murray-the-spurs-are-in-good-hands/

[DAF86]

It is pretty evident this dude has some issues up there.

[BatManu20]

Things are off to a hot start in Atlanta I see.


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[LeBowen]

Those picks will be massive for us.

[Mr. Body]

This is maybe not a good thing. A shakeup in coach may do them good. Maybe.

[Atl Spur]

This is maybe not a good thing. A shakeup in coach may do them good. Maybe.

It’s not the coach here……… Tre Young is a diva!

[Goob]

Not totally suprised McMillan is gone.Arguably should have down way better with the team he had to work with.

[JPB]

It’s not the coach here……… Tre Young is a diva!

Their starting backcourt are divas. I remember saying a a week ago during their CHA game I wouldn't be surprised if they blow it up this offseason, and it could actually happen. Their team has zero fire, heart or accountability and is only winning out of individual talent. You can't fire the team so you fire the coach. Hopefully they may try to refill their pick reservoir this summer, like BKN did.

[Atl Spur]

Their starting backcourt are divas. I remember saying a a week ago during their CHA game I wouldn't be surprised if they blow it up this offseason, and it could actually happen. Their team has zero fire, heart or accountability and is only winning out of individual talent. You can't fire the team so you fire the coach. Hopefully they may try to refill their pick reservoir this summer, like BKN did.

True

[exstatic]

This is maybe not a good thing. A shakeup in coach may do them good. Maybe.

Nate wasn’t the problem.

[Leetonidas]

They'll play well for a few games like most teams do when they get rid of the coach. But they'll come back down to Earth. Their team is not well constructed and tbh you're not winning anything with the broke ass wannabe Steph curry as your best player

[KingKev]

DJ dropped 41 last night on 17-22 shooting, 5-5 from deep.

[RC_Drunkford]

DJ dropped 41 last night on 17-22 shooting, 5-5 from deep.

clearly not a fit for the Spurs tanking culture

[KingKev]

clearly not a fit for the Spurs tanking culture

Yeah I’m not mad that we finally choose a direction to blow it up but we easily could have found a way to draft top 5 and had an all-nba talent level player.

[John B]

Yeah I’m not mad that we finally choose a direction to blow it up but we easily could have found a way to draft top 5 and had an all-nba talent level player.

Your boy must've been watching Kobe tapes

[KingKev]

Your boy must've been watching Kobe tapes

Maybe evens Jeremy Lin tapes

[DPG21920]

Yeah I’m not mad that we finally choose a direction to blow it up but we easily could have found a way to draft top 5 and had an all-nba talent level player.

Spurs can still sign Dejounte if both parties wanted…no opportunity lost there if we are being honest. And SA would get him at best price possible since they can’t overpay just because they had his bird rights.

[emmo]

Yeah I’m not mad that we finally choose a direction to blow it up but we easily could have found a way to draft top 5 and had an all-nba talent level player.

One game. Talk to me when the guy can dribble with his head up.

[objective]

Primo made Murray unnecessary.

[K...]

Primo made Murray unnecessary.

say what you want but i don't see primo posting cryptik emo shit like Murray did.

[Atl Spur]

Atlanta is so screwed if they sign him and more screwed if he leaves for nothing.

[Harry Callahan]

Nice game for DJ tonight......
Hopefully Chaos reigns for the next 4-5 years in Atlanta.....

[poopbox]

say what you want but i don't see primo posting cryptik emo shit like Murray did.

He was to busy pulling his dick out at work to be on social media

[spurraider21]

hawks extended bogdonavic. make of that what you will re: hawks short term future

[DPG21920]

hawks extended bogdonavic. make of that what you will re: hawks short term future

Ya - they keep sinking money into the same players that have not gotten them anywhere. Very interesting - they will have like 5-6 guys making over 20M IF they keep Dejounte and will be capped out with basically no way to improve other than via trade.

[Atl Spur]

Great news! They are screwed!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

That’s actually a pretty good contract for Bogdanovic, especially with the rising cap. Atlanta’s cap space is going to be screwed for a long time anyway and it’s not like cap space matters for them. 17 mil per for him is a good salary slot.

[Mr. Body]

Atlanta is in a rough spot where they can't easily add players and they have little flexibility. Landing DJM honestly was a great move. Next, I'd look into a fairly hefty trade like moving Trae for Karl Anthony-Towns.

[exstatic]

Atlanta is in a rough spot where they can't easily add players and they have little flexibility. Landing DJM honestly was a great move. Next, I'd look into a fairly hefty trade like moving Trae for Karl Anthony-Towns.

They're both losers, so there really isn't any upside for either team. ATL should look for picks for Trae, and Minnesota seems to be fresh out of them at the moment.

[John B]

Atlanta is in a rough spot where they can't easily add players and they have little flexibility. Landing DJM honestly was a great move. Next, I'd look into a fairly hefty trade like moving Trae for Karl Anthony-Towns.

Nah let them run that roster another year, and hopefully they firesale the year after

[Mr. Body]

They're both losers, so there really isn't any upside for either team. ATL should look for picks for Trae, and Minnesota seems to be fresh out of them at the moment.

Getting rid of KAT would be a massive bonus to Minnesota. For ATL at least they'd be balanced.

[exstatic]

Getting rid of KAT would be a massive bonus to Minnesota. For ATL at least they'd be balanced.

If I'm offloading my cornerstone, I'm looking for FRPs, a lot of FRPss, not some jump shooting soft 7 footer who provides 'balance'. They need the picks, because if it goes south on them, without those, they have no way to improve for most of the rest of the decade.

[spurraider21]

They're both losers, so there really isn't any upside for either team. ATL should look for picks for Trae, and Minnesota seems to be fresh out of them at the moment.
i dont think hawks are going to try to play the long game and rebuild with picks, seeing as how they owe 2 of them to us in the near-ish future with a swap in between. not saying it will work, but if they do move trae to reset, it will likely be a player-for-player type deal so they can attempt to reload and see if that works. rebuilding thru draft isnt really viable for them

[exstatic]

i dont think hawks are going to try to play the long game and rebuild with picks, seeing as how they owe 2 of them to us in the near-ish future with a swap in between. not saying it will work, but if they do move trae to reset, it will likely be a player-for-player type deal so they can attempt to reload and see if that works. rebuilding thru draft isnt really viable for them

Well, KAT ain't the answer for them.

[John B]

Well, KAT ain't the answer for them.

As much as I hate diva DJ, he is bent on winning, which is what TWolves is missing. I think KAT and DJM plus current Hawks roster would be something

[exstatic]

As much as I hate diva DJ, he is bent on winning, which is what TWolves is missing. I think KAT and DJM plus current Hawks roster would be simething

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[spurraider21]

Well, KAT ain't the answer for them.
i dont think so either but they're going to try something at some point, and draft isnt really viable for them

[JPB]

As much as I hate diva DJ, he is bent on winning, which is what TWolves is missing. I think KAT and DJM plus current Hawks roster would be something

Not sure tbh. I've seen them a few times this year and they have like zero accountability. Sure, you can put a lot of that on Trae but changing him for KAT wouldn't move the neddle tha much. They look kinda apathetic, like the .500 team that they are. Nor really bad, but not really good, which seems to have been your Hawks for a while now. Add to that DJM is missing what it takes to be a true leader and if they do trade Trae, I can see them offloading Murray to in the process for picks and rebuild, if Murray doesn't actually ask for a trade...

[exstatic]

i dont think so either but they're going to try something at some point, and draft isnt really viable for them

Sometimes, rather than stay afloat, you pull the plug and sink.

[CGD]

Atlanta is in a rough spot where they can't easily add players and they have little flexibility. Landing DJM honestly was a great move. Next, I'd look into a fairly hefty trade like moving Trae for Karl Anthony-Towns.

That’s really interesting actually, but not sure about the fit with ANT. I really really don’t like KAT or Tre, so it would be interesting to see them traded for the other lol.

[XDT76]

As much as I hate diva DJ, he is bent on winning, which is what TWolves is missing. I think KAT and DJM plus current Hawks roster would be something

If that is your impression of DJM then KAT is opposite. He is more like Aldridge a good player but only interested in doing what he like instead of what it's required to win.

[slick'81]

Man 2025 cant come soon enough

[buttsR4rebounding]

Last year without DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 was 34-35. This year with DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 is 34-35. 3 FRPs and a swap well spent....

[tim_duncan_fan]

Last year without DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 was 34-35. This year with DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 is 34-35. 3 FRPs and a swap well spent....

lol damn

but illustrates why we did what we did

[slick'81]

Last year without DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 was 34-35. This year with DJ Atlanta's record on 3/17 is 34-35. 3 FRPs and a swap well spent....


as long as that cha pick conveys im happy

[Dverde]

The real mic drop was for the Spurs to not take back John Collins.

[exstatic]

as long as that cha pick conveys im happy

That pick was just a sweetener. It could dry up an blow away, and I’d be happy with the unprotected ATL picks and swap.

[slick'81]

That pick was just a sweetener. It could dry up an blow away, and I’d be happy with the unprotected ATL picks and swap.


yea but our treasure chest has enough srp's

[exstatic]

yea but our treasure chest has enough srp's

Those have been selling for about $2M a pop, so I’m not sure there’s such a thing as ‘too many SRPs’.

[slick'81]

Those have been selling for about $2M a pop, so I’m not sure there’s such a thing as ‘too many SRPs’.

still rather have that first

[exstatic]

still rather have that first

I'd like it, too, but it's not a tragedy if it doesn't convey. I actually think we have a good chance at it, especially if that millstone of an owner sells his controlling shares, and they hire someone to run the Hornets.

[slick'81]

I'd like it, too, but it's not a tragedy if it doesn't convey. I actually think we have a good chance at it, especially if that millstone of an owner sells his controlling shares, and they hire someone to run the Hornets.


yea maybe mj bolting gets rid of their bad juju

[Ice009]

Is MJ looking to sell his shares?

[exstatic]

Is MJ looking to sell his shares?

Yup, not all of them, but some amount that would make someone else managing partner.

[John B]

Is MJ looking to sell his shares?

He’s already made 1000% of his initial investment. Why not? But I think he’s keeping a small share is what I’m reading out there.

[SpurPadre]

Does Murray get booed tomorrow?

[exstatic]

Does Murray get booed tomorrow?

No. He did everything the Spurs asked of him. I don’t blame him at all for not wanting to extend again, limited by the value of that first extension.

[KingKev]

Looking forward to the DJ tribute video!!!

[John B]

Does Murray get booed tomorrow?

I think he’ll get some. I know the PATFO will arrange a nice tribute, and Pop and his ex-teammates will be all-embracing. But I’m sure I’m not the only Spurs fan who felt a little betrayed by what he said at the podcast. The problem with DJM is he’s a blubber-mouth, once he’s cornered, he’ll bite the master’s hand like a stray dog. He yaps with his big mouth to please a listener, regardless if he’s coaxed or not. A strong matured mind will not easily get swayed. DJM constantly needs that affirmation even at the expense of someone.

As compared to Derrick who genuinely was hurt when he heard of his trade, that he felt rejected by the only NBA family he knew. DJM was giddy moving to another city, making big plans with “another star.” It just leaves a foul aftertaste. So yeah, I expect some boos

[Atl Spur]

We should celebrate him…… He’s glad to be gone and I’m glade he’s gone:) two picks and swap unprotected was larceny, we literally stole Atl’s existence! 15 years my ass!

[timtonymanu]

All giddy to go a team that hasn’t improved at all since his arrival

:lol play in contender

[exstatic]

We should celebrate him…… He’s glad to be gone and I’m glade he’s gone:) two picks and swap unprotected was larceny, we literally stole Atl’s existence! 15 years my ass!

That Charlotte pick was also from the DJ deal. Three FRPs and a swap, all but the CHA pick are unprotected.

[Atl Spur]

That Charlotte pick was also from the DJ deal. Three FRPs and a swap, all but the CHA pick are unprotected.

Even better!! Nice catch…..

[Dverde]

Since we dropped that Memphis game. I hope the team plays hard to jams those “15 years” words in DJ’s face. It was a shot at the front office, but also at our current roster. Completely unnecessary and DJ probably only said because of his insecure defensive personality.

[KingKev]

The prodigal son returns!!! Hopefully the tribute video thanks him for being an integral part of helping coach Pop reaching the all-time wins mark.

[Rocalcio]

No. He did everything the Spurs asked of him. I don’t blame him at all for not wanting to extend again, limited by the value of that first extension.

He’s been criticizing Spurs since he left.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He’s been criticizing Spurs since he left.

Meh he’s been extremely butthurt after he got traded but he doesn’t deserve any boos and hate. He didn’t demand to leave, he just got traded by the FO for a good package.

[JPB]

Meh he’s been extremely butthurt after he got traded but he doesn’t deserve any boos and hate. He didn’t demand to leave, he just got traded by the FO for a good package.

If you don't care him saying that we have no idea what organisation we're rooting for, I do. He's a deluded, self centered attention/drama queen.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If you don't care him saying that we have no idea what organisation we're rooting for, I do. He's a deluded, self centered attention/drama queen.

I don’t honestly. He got pushed out the door when he thought he was becoming a franchise player (and getting paid accordingly). Most people would be just as butthurt and running their mouths, it’s totally understandable.

[Ariel]

That pick was just a sweetener. It could dry up an blow away, and I’d be happy with the unprotected ATL picks and swap.
No, the Charlotte pick may not convey, but if it does it will likely be in the mid teens. That's a pretty damn good pick, especially if it's in 2025 which is projected to be a good class. It's not a sweetener, there's no guarantee the Atlanta picks will be in the lottery, there's a chance Atlanta blows up and they do end up high picks but they may not.
In retrospect, our best scenario would have been aiming for Atlanta's 2022 1st rounder (16th pick) which they used on AJ Griffin but Tari Eason was available.
Something I didn't remember, is that the Atlanta deal and Miles Bridges assault on his wife happened on June 29 2022... charges were presented at a later date, but is it a coincidence they were willing to give up the Charlotte pick that same day, or they got wind of it and knew what was coming? Hmmm....

[Rocalcio]

I don’t honestly. He got pushed out the door when he thought he was becoming a franchise player (and getting paid accordingly). Most people would be just as butthurt and running their mouths, it’s totally understandable.

He wouldn’t resign anyway, PATFO did the right move.

[KingKev]

He wouldn’t resign anyway, PATFO did the right move.

It has been loosely reported on that the Spurs were unlikely to resign him at what his likely market value would be. The notion he wasn't going to resign at all is fallacious.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He wouldn’t resign anyway, PATFO did the right move.

Not disputing that they were right to trade him but the situation with him signing an extension are more complicated. He wouldn’t sign the max extension the Spurs could offer because his current contract is too low so a 20% raise wouldn’t have been enough, however they could have maxed him if they wanted to once the contract is up. They simply decided he wouldn’t be worth it, which is a fair assumption.

[tonight...you]

It has been loosely reported on that the Spurs were unlikely to resign him at what his likely market value would be. The notion he wasn't going to resign at all is fallacious.
I'm fine with all parties deciding what they did and how it went down.
No problem whatsoever.

[TD 21]

The Spurs did the right thing and I understand a part of Murray being upset with their decision, but it'd also be nice if one time when ones of these clowns bashed them, they didn't do their usual song and dance and shunned them all the way around (even though we know it'll never happen).

[tonight...you]

It has been loosely reported on that the Spurs were unlikely to resign him at what his likely market value would be. The notion he wasn't going to resign at all is fallacious.
Anyone catch the vid? How was it?

[offset formation]

Anyone catch the vid? How was it?

It was pretty standard for tribute videos. Reception was pretty luke warm. More applause than boos but not an overwhelming show of appreciation.

[tonight...you]

It was pretty standard for tribute videos. Reception was pretty luke warm. More applause than boos but not an overwhelming show of appreciation.
Wow. And some peeps think this dude was integral to Pop getting the All-Time Wins.
Show some respect!

[exstatic]

Wow. And some peeps think this dude was integral to Pop getting the All-Time Wins.
Show some respect!

Tim Duncan was integral to Pop getting the All Time wins mark.

[tonight...you]

Tim Duncan was integral to Pop getting the All Time wins mark.
To say the least.
I get that sometimes peeps want to antagonize, but then I'm just like - Why?

[John B]

It was pretty standard for tribute videos. Reception was pretty luke warm. More applause than boos but not an overwhelming show of appreciation.

Indifference.. no love lost

[Ice009]

Did Derrick White get a better reception on his first game back? I can't remember.

[John B]

Did Derrick White get a better reception on his first game back? I can't remember.

Yup. I thought Derrick reception was full of gratitude, thankful, humbled by the opportunity. You’d want to root for him. On the otherhand, wannabe diva was more like beating his chest, self-acknowledgment. It’s me stares at the ball. Pretty shallow tribute, just dunk highlights, nothing deep.. meh.


https://youtu.be/QuviWsQc-FA

https://youtu.be/Ss4XyPCEG1A

[Ice009]

Thanks a lot for the videos. I did like Derrick better on a personal level, but Dejounte was/is the better player. He just doesn't have the best attitude that endears him to fans/people.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Murray
:lol killing your franchise for a borderline all star
:lol play in champion contender
:lol Spurs knew what they were doing getting rid of this bum
:lol hawks didn’t improve with him
:lol overrated

[poopbox]

:lol Murray
:lol killing your franchise for a borderline all star
:lol play in champion contender
:lol Spurs knew what they were doing getting rid of this bum
:lol hawks didn’t improve with him
:lol overrated

Murray probably the only thing keeping the Hawks from being in on the tank tbh

I was upset we didn't get deandre hunter in the deal but now I see why we didn't

Capela is a shell of himself and he was pretty much a shell to start with

[MultiTroll]

Starts for 3 years with support being Pets Patty Bryn Bryn and muh touches LMA. Lets see wtf you do playing along side that lineup.

Helps get the true goal of Grandpas self adjulating All Time Wins Record while mirrored in no playoffs or Play In at best.

Yes the bagging on the Spurs with Slacker Jackson was super lame. DJs still immature.

[exstatic]

Starts for 3 years with support being Pets Patty Bryn Bryn and muh touches LMA. Lets see wtf you do playing along side that lineup.

Helps get the true goal of Grandpas self adjulating All Time Wins Record while mirrored in no playoffs or Play In at best.

Yes the bagging on the Spurs with Slacker Jackson was super lame. DJs still immature.

DJ played every season except last year with either of Nephew or DeRozan, both multi time All Stars and AllNBA selections.

[MultiTroll]

DJ played every season except last year with either of Nephew or DeRozan, both multi time All Stars and AllNBA selections.
:lmao

He played in the 2017 1st round win with Prime Kwa and then helped wax the Golden Phaggots balls in Game 1 before criminal Zaza struck. That was the end of DJ with Prime Kwa.

DeRozan Bryn Bryn Patty n Muh Touches. :lmao

[MultiTroll]

DJ played every season except last year with either of Nephew or DeRozan, both multi time All Stars and AllNBA selections.
Since you're using DeRozan as diss to DJ Murrays play....

Here is sight owner suggesting the Spurs strongly consider going after Zack Lavine:
Why the Spurs Should Try to Sign Zach LaVine (spurstalk.com) (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299807&highlight=zach+lavine)

DeRozan with Lavine and the Bulls current record:
33-37 10th place, currently in the Play In. (Last year they got run in the 1st round by the Bucks 4-1.)

So what's your take on multi time All Star and All NBA DeRozan with Lavine?
Vs DJ Murray with DeRozan, Patty, Brynn n Pop?

[Dverde]

Atlanta Hawks being possible championship contenders was more short lived than Dejounte and Jilly’s youtube show.

[tim_duncan_fan]

What people like Lavine and Derozan say to me is that there are really only about 10 true star players in the league, if that, and it's important to not get trapped under or enamored with sub-MVPs.

[Gagnrath]

Thanks a lot for the videos. I did like Derrick better on a personal level, but Dejounte was/is the better player. He just doesn't have the best attitude that endears him to fans/people.

It's different level's Derrick is content being a rotation player, or first guard off the bench playing both 1 and 2 spots. He's starter quality but without much ego, he also fills the role needed by a team at the moment. If it's something a guard does he's going to step in and be fairly quality at that role. He's a very smart player in that sense. On a team where you have superstars you really want White over Murray. Murray will want the ball, the shot and the glory. White will draw the defender and hit the open guy who is hopefully either the superstar or causes the rotational mismatch. You don't have a RAPTOR above 10 without doing a lot of things right and White does.

It's a case of who's better as a player, Steve Nash or Russell Westbrook, One on one Westbrook wins but it's a team sport and Nash makes a team better.

Same with Murray he's a better athlete and probably a bit more skilled but he's not as valuable as a team player. Its not at the Russell Westbrook level but if you can make Murray work to get this he's going to make sure he gets it at the detriment of the team he is playing for.

[John B]

^ Totally agree. You don’t have to go far. White has that Manu attitude, sacrifice to do small things for the team. The only thing is Manu turns it on when it’s time, sometimes Derrick defers too much. Dejounte? What is it for him. Shallow player, stat padder suspect. He’d gamble to make a steal, instead of staying in front of his man.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Last season without Murray 43-39 Eighth place.
This season with Murray 41-41 Eighth place.

Probably felt like he would move the needle more than 0.

[Harry Callahan]

Hawks could have had Doncic. They got Tre' Young and another pick instead?

[Ariel]

Hawks could have had Doncic. They got Tre' Young and another pick instead?
Cam Reddish :lol

[K...]

Hawks could have had Doncic. They got Tre' Young and another pick instead?

the donic who couldnt even make the playoffs? this is hard to build a team and certainly Dallas fucked up worse than the hawks. but man, the hawks didn't do that bad. John Collins just sucks, trae is kinda mid, murray isn't a real star. but talent is there, they just need to find a good coach. Rather be atalanta then Dallas

[exstatic]

Hawks could have had Doncic. They got Tre' Young and another pick instead?

The other pick was Cam Reddish. :lol We’re indirectly involved, because the CHA pick we got in the DJ trade was the payment from NY when they traded for Reddish.

[exstatic]

the donic who couldnt even make the playoffs? this is hard to build a team and certainly Dallas fucked up worse than the hawks. but man, the hawks didn't do that bad. John Collins just sucks, trae is kinda mid, murray isn't a real star. but talent is there, they just need to find a good coach. Rather be atalanta then Dallas

It’s not a coaches league, it’s a players league. If the players are as you describe them, they should burn it down now. No coach will make a difference.

[K...]

It’s not a coaches league, it’s a players league. If the players are as you describe them, they should burn it down now. No coach will make a difference.

comparing them to dallas, atlanta had more talent and it's worth cycling coaches to find a guy who gets those players to work it out. I know coaches don't do much, but getting the new coach bounce could spark them into what you would think their talent could get them.

[scott]

Saw a tweet this morning, that I won’t be able to find now, that the Atlanta GM has been given the green light to seek trades that include Trae the offseason in order to improve the roster. We need to hope that they don’t retool too fast. Ideal scenario is they ship Trae out to replace the draft capital they gave us, and DJM walks next off-season, sending them into full rebuild. Then we sit back, bro down, sell out and cash in.

[exstatic]

Saw a tweet this morning, that I won’t be able to find now, that the Atlanta GM has been given the green light to seek trades that include Trae the offseason in order to improve the roster. We need to hope that they don’t retool too fast. Ideal scenario is they ship Trae out to replace the draft capital they gave us, and DJM walks next off-season, sending them into full rebuild. Then we sit back, bro down, sell out and cash in.

Before the play in? Wow.

[scott]

Before the play in? Wow.

Of course, it’s something I saw on Twitter - so could be bullshit. But if true, wow indeed. Minnesota Timberwolves level of “wow, I can’t believe you fucked up so amazing” level of wow :lol

[exstatic]

It’ll be interesting to see what happens if they just cash out on Trae. It might just get the rest of the team on the same page.

[scott]

Speaking of those two dysfunctional teams, I wonder if something centered around a Trae-KAT swap could work. Though I’m not sure how Trae and Ant would fit either.

[jjspur]

Last season without Murray 43-39 Eighth place.
This season with Murray 41-41 Eighth place.

Probably felt like he would move the needle more than 0.

They got Murray, lost a few first round picks, and a coach to go where ... backwards ? Not exactly the best decisions.

[KobesAchilles]

The Mavs were the 4 seed and fell to the 11th after trading for Kyrie. That dude is a team killer. I’d rather have the taller better player for the foreseeable future rather than the shitty midget coach killer who plays like a wannabe Steph.

Also apparently the whole team has turned on him in the locker room and reports are leaking about his shitty leadership. The Hawks are right on schedule for the Spurs and I’m loving it. Now they just have to pay DJ 40 million a year and they will be screwed. Multiple top 10 picks for the next coming years is going to help the rebuild. Assuming Wright doesn’t go Wrong

[KobesAchilles]

Btw Young averages 4 TO a game, plays zero defense and doesn’t even shoot the ball particularly well. The dude shot 33% from 3 this season and 42 overall. That’s not the person who should be shooting the most or running an offense through.

[CGD]

Saw a tweet this morning, that I won’t be able to find now, that the Atlanta GM has been given the green light to seek trades that include Trae the offseason in order to improve the roster. We need to hope that they don’t retool too fast. Ideal scenario is they ship Trae out to replace the draft capital they gave us, and DJM walks next off-season, sending them into full rebuild. Then we sit back, bro down, sell out and cash in.

Heard it on one of the podcasts too. I really dont like the player personally, but it’d be cool to see someone with that flamboyance and potential wow factor playing at Madison Square Garden.

[exstatic]

Heard it on one of the podcasts too. I really dont like the player personally, but it’d be cool to see someone with that flamboyance and potential wow factor playing at Madison Square Garden.

The Knicks are dumb enough to throw the bag at Atlanta.

[CGD]

The Mavs were the 4 seed and fell to the 11th after trading for Kyrie. That dude is a team killer. I’d rather have the taller better player for the foreseeable future rather than the shitty midget coach killer who plays like a wannabe Steph.

Also apparently the whole team has turned on him in the locker room and reports are leaking about his shitty leadership. The Hawks are right on schedule for the Spurs and I’m loving it. Now they just have to pay DJ 40 million a year and they will be screwed. Multiple top 10 picks for the next coming years is going to help the rebuild. Assuming Wright doesn’t go Wrong

Yeah, unless they get a player back instead of picks for a rebuild. Not sure Minni does it, but a turd swap of KAT for Tre, for example, could be interesting for both teams the more I think of it.

[exstatic]

The Mavs were the 4 seed and fell to the 11th after trading for Kyrie. That dude is a team killer. I’d rather have the taller better player for the foreseeable future rather than the shitty midget coach killer who plays like a wannabe Steph.

Also apparently the whole team has turned on him in the locker room and reports are leaking about his shitty leadership. The Hawks are right on schedule for the Spurs and I’m loving it. Now they just have to pay DJ 40 million a year and they will be screwed. Multiple top 10 picks for the next coming years is going to help the rebuild. Assuming Wright doesn’t go Wrong

No, they need to trade Trae, and DJ needs to walk in 2024, not re-sign. That’ll put a stake in them.

[exstatic]

Yeah, unless they get a player back instead of picks for a rebuild. Not sure Minni does it, but a turd swap of KAT for Tre, for example, could be interesting for both teams the more I think of it.

That would be the second awful summer trade in a row for Minny.

[spurraider21]

Shams went short of reporting that they are actively looking to trade Trae, but did say there's basically an ongoing evaluation as far as what to do with him

[scott]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/4/10/23676419/trae-young-atlanta-hawks


Murray was a better player in San Antonio than he was in his first season in Atlanta. No matter what happens with Young, Murray will need to justify the hefty price they paid to land him. But as an upcoming free agent in 2024, he also should be a player the Hawks consider moving this summer, even if the return is less than the three picks they initially gave up. Sometimes, you have to cut your losses in order to make future gains.

Imagine the SJax interview if this happened :lol

[Seventyniner]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/4/10/23676419/trae-young-atlanta-hawks



Imagine the SJax interview if this happened :lol[/FONT][/COLOR]

Wright should call up the Hawks and offer the protected Charlotte pick and one of the Hawks own unprotected picks, and maybe the 2026 swap, to get Murray back.

[Ariel]

Wright should call up the Hawks and offer the protected Charlotte pick and one of the Hawks own unprotected picks, and maybe the 2026 swap, to get Murray back.
why? Supposedly they didn't want to max him, and if now they do, they can just wait till next year when he becomes a FA.
I doubt teams are lining up to max Dejounte, so need to give anything back to Atlanta.

[Seventyniner]

why? Supposedly they didn't want to max him, and if now they do, they can just wait till next year when he becomes a FA.
I doubt teams are lining up to max Dejounte, so need to give anything back to Atlanta.

The blue font was meant to indicate sarcasm. I don't expect that trade to have any chance of happening, I just thought it would be really funny if it did.

[spurraider21]

Wright should call up the Hawks and offer the protected Charlotte pick and one of the Hawks own unprotected picks, and maybe the 2026 swap, to get Murray back.
how well does dejounte fit with wemby, tbh?

[Harry Callahan]

the donic who couldnt even make the playoffs? this is hard to build a team and certainly Dallas fucked up worse than the hawks. but man, the hawks didn't do that bad. John Collins just sucks, trae is kinda mid, murray isn't a real star. but talent is there, they just need to find a good coach. Rather be atalanta then Dallas

I'd rather be Atlanta with Doncic. A taller more skilled player than Young. In addition, Young is a divisive force in the lockeroom. The Mavericks also have a poorly constructed team and had a horrible offseason. Doncic has his issues as well (poor conditioning). Still a more impactful player than the undersized Young. I'm not talking about what surrounds either player.

[spurraider21]

hawks gonna win their play-in game, so they're in

[The Truth #6]

Atlanta had a solid run of acquiring complementary players, but they built it around the wrong star. Now they have pieces still to move around, though not as much draft capital, thank you very much. But Snyder seems like a solid coach and could possibly build a democratic team oriented unit. It might not be what they want or hoped for, but I think they need to be careful in getting another flawed problematic star in return, like KAT. I’m dubious they will make the right choice but I think it depends if Snyder really does get to make the decisions. He’s starting fresh and building from scratch, I imagine. I wonder how the owners view it and how stuck they are on going all in. We’ll see.

[Seventyniner]

This is not the year we want Atlanta to bottom out. I'm rooting for them to get a fools gold seven game loss to Boston, or maybe even an upset, to make them want to run it back next year. It's 2024-2025 when we really want the Hawks' wheels to fall off.

[exstatic]

This is not the year we want Atlanta to bottom out. I'm rooting for them to get a fools gold seven game loss to Boston, or maybe even an upset, to make them want to run it back next year. It's 2024-2025 when we really want the Hawks' wheels to fall off.

That won’t all happen at once, though. If they crap out, Trae will be traded this summer, 2023. If things don’t go well the following season, DJ either walks or is traded in 2024, setting up the 2024-2025 season as a lottery one. Their 2025 pick is our first one.

[Ice009]

The Mavs were the 4 seed and fell to the 11th after trading for Kyrie. That dude is a team killer. I’d rather have the taller better player for the foreseeable future rather than the shitty midget coach killer who plays like a wannabe Steph.

Also apparently the whole team has turned on him in the locker room and reports are leaking about his shitty leadership. The Hawks are right on schedule for the Spurs and I’m loving it. Now they just have to pay DJ 40 million a year and they will be screwed. Multiple top 10 picks for the next coming years is going to help the rebuild. Assuming Wright doesn’t go Wrong

Are you referring to Kyrie here or Dejounte?

[Philthemage]

Here's to hoping that Snyder is secretly working for us to tank the Hawks. And then swoop in to be Pops successor when the draft lottery picks convey to us.

[Dverde]

DJ not making friends calling out the espn talking heads after winning a play in game. They are going to pounce on them if they go down 0-3 to the Celtics.

[exstatic]

DJ not making friends calling out the espn talking heads after winning a play in game. They are going to pounce on them if they go down 0-3 to the Celtics.

Strong “Pat Beverly jumping on the scorer’s table after winning a stupid play in game” energy. I think the Spurs understood his built in immaturity, and that was why they didn't want to build around him, or at least one reason.

[KobesAchilles]

Are you referring to Kyrie here or Dejounte?
Trae

[MultiTroll]

DJ not making friends calling out the espn talking heads after winning a play in game. They are going to pounce on them if they go down 0-3 to the Celtics.Can't find anything on this.
Link?

[Leetonidas]

Lol all that talking just to get swept by derrick white :lol

[JPB]

DJ not making friends calling out the espn talking heads after winning a play in game. They are going to pounce on them if they go down 0-3 to the Celtics.

That's why he'll never get it. He has the temper and emotional quotient of a 10 year old. The kind of "the world against me, I have a chip on my shoulder" clueless player who flexes after winning a useless play in game in a season where Hawks traded their family for him to make a jump... backwards and losing 3 more games than the previous season.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Said they traded their family lmao

[Ice009]

Said they traded their family lmao

Who said who traded their family?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Who said who traded their family?

I was laughing at JPB's comment just above mine

[Dverde]

Now he’s posting about how they are not mid, because they are in the playoffs :lol

[Dverde]

Another gem from DJM

"I love [the matchup]," Murray said, via The Boston Globe's Gary Washburn (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/04/12/sports/last-year-is-last-year-celtics-seemed-have-dodged-first-round-bullet-hawks-are-coming-play/). "Obviously Boston’s at the top because they went to the Finals last year. But last year is last year.

[JPB]

I can see a sweep tbh.

[scott]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36277055/source-nba-investigating-dejounte-murray-actions-officials

Source: NBA investigating Dejounte Murray's actions toward officials

:lol

[buttsR4rebounding]

Likely he will be suspended for the final game of the series. Between him and Trae the Hawks are a mess.

[Mr. Body]

Way to revive Quinn's coke habit.

[Ice009]

Fu#king idiot.

[Joseph Kony]

1650610330580467712

:lol what a clown

here's the incident:

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[BackHome]

Thank the Lort we got rid of him and for some nice picks....that was just plain STUPID to do what he did.

[Ice009]

The kid is an unappreciative clown. Without the Spurs, I doubt he would have been in the NBA still. He was terrible when he came in. High dribble, loose handles, couldn't shoot. Sure he worked hard, but the Spurs development staff would have had a lot to do with him becoming better. Doesn't look like he learned anything in SA and is showing his true self. What a joke.

Same goes for Kawhi. Where would he have truly gotten to if it wasn't for Chip Engelland tweaking his shot just before the lockout started and the Spurs development staff for working with him. Again, to give credit, he was an even harder worker than Murray, but their lack of appreciation is pathetic and how they treated the Spurs since leaving doesn't make me feel sorry for either one of those guys.

[Atl Spur]

I said long ago this was a great trade for the Spurs:) Atlanta is screwed!

[JPB]

Yep, suspended.

[toki9]

Murray: "I don't think I should have been suspended." https://twitter.com/HawksOnBally/status/1650883262489739265?s=20

NBA Rulebook: : https://official.nba.com/comments-on-the-rules/#suspension "E. PHYSICAL CONTACT—SUSPENSION
Any player or coach guilty of intentional physical contact with an official shall automatically be suspended without pay for one game. A fine and/or longer period of suspension will result if circumstances so dictate."

Also, Murray talking about how much the refs respect him is little much. "Before the games...all the refs come to me and say hello and how much respect they have for me by knowing their names..."

[John B]

Pop must be so relieved to have got rid of this infant

[timtonymanu]

Murray needs the world at his feet. It’s similar to his comment about the spurs not starting him since Day 1. Such entitlement for a guy who would have been without a job if the spurs never developed him.

[BackHome]

Yeah his ego is cashing checks he can’t backup- One thing being confident and competitive vs just being plain Stupid

I hope he learns from this he needs to just focus on his career the streets are crazy right now he going to get a rude awakening if he keeps going down the path he walking.

[tonight...you]

Yeah his ego is cashing checks he can’t backup- One thing being confident and competitive vs just being plain Stupid

I hope he learns from this he needs to just focus on his career the streets are crazy right now he going to get a rude awakening if he keeps going down the path he walking.
Shoot. The streets? Even just driveways and front doors are crazy right now.

[toki9]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1651064121398554624?s=20

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1651064121398554624?s=20

Wow...

[toki9]

Wow...

I know. There are no words for this. :lol

[rjv]

:lol :lol

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1651064121398554624?s=20

Back to the "A" to get his ass whopped home :lmao

[John B]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1651064121398554624?s=20

Link is not working for me :wtf

[exstatic]

Link is not working for me :wtf

He didn’t embed it. You have to copy, and paste it into a browser window.

[John B]

He didn’t embed it. You have to copy, and paste it into a browser window.

Thanks Exstatic

Dejounte Murray:"God is real. The devil is a lie. Tried to cheat, suspend me. We back to the A."

I thought it was the Cabo one :lol:lol

[couchman]

Zero points in the first half last night. DJM too busy w the drama and forgetting to play ball

[buttsR4rebounding]

2022 Hawks 43-39 reg season...eighth seed....lost 4-1 to 1st seed Miami Heat.
2023 Hawks 41-41 reg season...eighth seed....lost 4-2 to 1st seed Boston Celtics.

My quick analysis indicates that DJM was not a difference maker for the Hawks. I wonder if they are having buyer's remorse...

[John B]

2022 Hawks 43-39 reg season...eighth seed....lost 4-1 to 1st seed Miami Heat.
2023 Hawks 41-41 reg season...eighth seed....lost 4-2 to 1st seed Boston Celtics.

My quick analysis indicates that DJM was not a difference maker for the Hawks. I wonder if they are having buyer's remorse...


He’s their problem now :lol

Thank you Hawks for the picks, and taking this infant off Spurs hands

[JPB]

If anything, he's costing himself a lot of cash. No one is maxing out that clown. He"ll be a role player before 3 years.

[Atl Spur]

If anything, he's costing himself a lot of cash. No one is maxing out that clown. He"ll be a role player before 3 years.

He’s a role player now…….

[Sugus]

If anything, he's costing himself a lot of cash. No one is maxing out that clown. He"ll be a role player before 3 years.

I think the Hawks extend him for the max, still. They have no choice but to do it after the trade, and as long as Dejounte himself believes he's a max-level player, that's all that matters.

[JPB]

I think the Hawks extend him for the max, still. They have no choice but to do it after the trade, and as long as Dejounte himself believes he's a max-level player, that's all that matters.

Not sure of that tbh. They saw first hand how uncontrollable and emotionnaly instable he is. He litterally suggested the league rigged the series and has clear pathological issues. There's always the risk he goes further and further in his drama over time. On the field they also saw they won 3 less RS games with him and won in Boston withouth him. He's not a leader and a guy you can count on, on and off the floor.

[MultiTroll]

I think the Hawks extend him for the max, still.


Not sure of that tbh.
17 mil for next year then unrestricted FA at end of 23/24 season.

[MultiTroll]

They saw first hand how uncontrollable and emotionnaly instable he is. He litterally suggested the league rigged the series and has clear pathological issues. There's always the risk he goes further and further in his drama over time. On the field they also saw they won 3 less RS games with him and won in Boston withouth him. He's not a leader and a guy you can count on, on and off the floor.
ATL annointed Trae Young as leader, not Murray.
Hell this past season Murray was the 5th highest paid Hawk.

So not sure where some of the board sets the bar for Murray as he had to and has to be #1 superstar level bar. Had to "lead" the 2022 Bryn n Pop Spurs with Yak Poodle, Dougie McD, KJ, rookie Vassel and ___ ? TF was he supposed to do, Duncan that team to 55 wins and a deep Championship run?

Yes he is a punk off the floor and too often on the floor too.

But he is also a solid starter and role player for 17 mil a year. Compare him to the rest of the NBA at 17 mil.
Doughie McDermott gets 14 a year from Pop.

Murray plays a decent and sometimes very good all around game. Trae Young is by far ATLs biggest downfall.

[Sugus]

Not sure of that tbh. They saw first hand how uncontrollable and emotionnaly instable he is. He litterally suggested the league rigged the series and has clear pathological issues. There's always the risk he goes further and further in his drama over time. On the field they also saw they won 3 less RS games with him and won in Boston withouth him. He's not a leader and a guy you can count on, on and off the floor.

Oh, you best believe ATL would be glad to "underpay" him for all these valid reasons - but clearly DJ doesn't see himself that way, and any attempt to make him "face it" in a round of negotiations is going to make him emotionally lash out and possibly sour him on the team and situation. ATL cannot face this risk after the assets given up for him, and their perilious team situation -- so he's getting a max (extension, most likely).

If you think about it, it's not even that surprising, even with his playoff performance (or lack of). Guys like Jordan Poole, Duncan Robinson, Michael Porter Jr (better but glass-made) all get max extensions nowadays from teams who can't afford to let them go. DJ, for better and worse, is ATL's second "star and will want to get paid like it.

Personally I think it's GREAT for us. That team has more holes than a strainer, taking the Cs to 6 games on Young heroics is the perfect "run it back" kool-aid they needed. See them spend their money and assets on this house in the sand, and sow our seeds. The time will come.

[BatManu20]

:lol

Dejounte for a future FRP. Who says no? (besides the Spurs).

1667912763123826690

[CGD]

That’s cold. But I guess no one really want to pay him his next deal, especially with then new CBA

[scott]

Really have to question whether DJM has the mental toughness to be the subject of the hard side of the business of the NBA. The Hawks won't give DJM the same level of respect and consideration the Spurs did before dumping his ass. Could see DJM spiraling from there.

[CGD]

It was a stupid move for ATL to begin with. They really need to move on from Tre, but they won’t especially since they choose him over Doncic.

The spurs pounced on the dumb dumbs. But sucks for DJ.

[JPB]

https://media.tenor.com/KwICUgZGJwEAAAAC/its-happening-meme.gif

[Mr. Body]

They really need to move John Collins but no one wants him. Trae or DJ will need to move instead. I can see a bid for someone like KAT.

[JPB]

If true, not sure what the hawks would want, players or recoup some of their picks, or both, but trading Murray one year in, they should expect everyone to lowball their offers, specially with DJM on court and off court drama... Not a stable player.

[exstatic]

ATL played better with DJ running the show when Trae was off the floor. They should use Trae to recoup as many assets to offset the trade for DJ, dump Collins for anything, and roll with that for a season.

[Obstructed_View]

OMG I am so hopeful about that pick.

[Seventyniner]

OMG I am so hopeful about that pick.

Since the Hawks will go 3 years in a row without controlling their own draft (2025-2027), they will have no reason to tank and will make win-now moves. All we can hope for is that the moves backfire and they can't win even if they want to, or that they suffer a lot of injuries. I doubt the Hawks will finish any of those seasons with a record below 7th or 8th worst because there will be a few teams that tank the whole season and a few more down the stretch.

Still, each time the Hawks finish with the 7th or 8th worst record gives the Spurs about a 30% chance of jumping into the top 4. Not bad to have up to 3 bites at that apple, especially when trading Dejounte let the Spurs finally bottom out at exactly the right time.

[Obstructed_View]

Since the Hawks will go 3 years in a row without controlling their own draft (2025-2027), they will have no reason to tank and will make win-now moves. All we can hope for is that the moves backfire and they can't win even if they want to, or that they suffer a lot of injuries. I doubt the Hawks will finish any of those seasons with a record below 7th or 8th worst because there will be a few teams that tank the whole season and a few more down the stretch.

Still, each time the Hawks finish with the 7th or 8th worst record gives the Spurs about a 30% chance of jumping into the top 4. Not bad to have up to 3 bites at that apple, especially when trading Dejounte let the Spurs finally bottom out at exactly the right time.

Exactly my thought. The odds of DJM staying weren't great, and there is always a risk when you make a trade and have so many potentially toxic assets. Get into the lottery, and as KG says, anything's possibooooooo.

[TD 21]

I can't see whatever others apparently can, but I'm guessing it's the Pincus article on B/R from yesterday.


They really need to move John Collins but no one wants him. Trae or DJ will need to move instead. I can see a bid for someone like KAT.

I suspect they can move Collins, they just have to come to terms with it being a salary dump as opposed to a "basketball trade".

Capela is probably the other big contract they're looking to move.

[Mr. Body]

I can't see whatever others apparently can, but I'm guessing it's the Pincus article on B/R from yesterday.



I suspect they can move Collins, they just have to come to terms with it being a salary dump as opposed to a "basketball trade".

Capela is probably the other big contract they're looking to move.

There's some chatter about Atlanta trading 15 and Capela to Dallas for the 10 and maybe like Hardaway Jr. Not sure why Atlanta would need to do this; the 10-15 range is pretty flat.

[RC_Drunkford]

just let DJ hit the open market and the Spurs can resign him :lol I wouldn't even mind it. Of course now here will come all the "he ain't a culture fit" guys

[talkspurs]

I think atl needs to trade trae. He is the player that is hurting that team. If they trade him and let DJM run the point they might be able to get more value for Collins. When I talk about not going after star players this is what I am talking about. Trae has a much bigger name but is not as good. DJM needs to get his head back on straight but is still a good player.

[CGD]

^ it would also mean conceding that they screwed up the Doncic trade, so that’s a tough pill to swallow

[Ariel]

There's some chatter about Atlanta trading 15 and Capela to Dallas for the 10 and maybe like Hardaway Jr. Not sure why Atlanta would need to do this; the 10-15 range is pretty flat.
It depends on who's there, but say Hendricks is available at 10, then it'd make sense for them to do it, they'd add a young, promising forward who can help them on defense but also on offense with his already good solid 3 point shot, and they don't really need him to create anything with Trae & Dejounte already on the team. They also already have Okongwu on the roster, he can get most of Capela's minutes and he should do fine. Probably Dallas would like to dump Bertans instead of Hardaway Jr.

[Ariel]

I can't see whatever others apparently can, but I'm guessing it's the Pincus article on B/R from yesterday.
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1667912763123826690

There are rumors floating around that Dejounte Murray might be available in the right deal, per @EricPincus

[TDMVPDPOY]

minne waana trade kat

[talkspurs]

^ it would also mean conceding that they screwed up the Doncic trade, so that’s a tough pill to swallow

I think some people have a hard time with that. People need to learn to move on. Business make mistakes and have to pivot all the time. Might not be quite as visible but they do sometimes make mistakes and have to change their path.

[exstatic]

^ it would also mean conceding that they screwed up the Doncic trade, so that’s a tough pill to swallow

They didn’t draft Doncic, and then change their minds. He was never their target. You also can’t be held hostage to the sunk cost fallacy. When it’s time to move on, you move on.

[CGD]

They didn’t draft Doncic, and then change their minds. He was never their target. You also can’t be held hostage to the sunk cost fallacy. When it’s time to move on, you move on.

Clearly they didn’t draft him. They made a judgement call to pass on him, though, and it’s been hanging over their heads notwithstanding that one cool/fluky Trae playoff run. Luka’s lack of attention to his physique and on-court whining have been the only saving graces.

Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch for sure. But there is a whole study of human psychology and economics around it precisely because humans are not always rational actions.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

If true, not sure what the hawks would want, players or recoup some of their picks, or both, but trading Murray one year in, they should expect everyone to lowball their offers, specially with DJM on court and off court drama... Not a stable player.

what on and off court drama has he been involved in? I’m honestly not privy to anything he has done outside of the trash talk to Paolo Banchero. Dude has never had any run ins with police or been accused of hurting folks. Yeah, he can be a bit childish on social media sometimes, but all things considered he is pretty low key.

maybe you know some stuff I don’t know though.

[KingKev]

I’m not giving up much assets for DJ nor am I paying him crazy money in free agency but if he is on the block for a reasonable price i’d consider it. I think he gets around 30mm a year on his next deal and I’m not sure i’m trading assets just to pay him that. Would I consider signing him for that outright? Yeah I would.

[Mr. Body]

Moving on from Trae is the way to go. I think they can get KAT and that would maybe improve both teams, despite issues with both characters. Dallas might have won the Doncic trade but it's not like they're sailing free. Moving Trae would probably just end the narrative of comparison.

Trae got something like fewer votes for All-Star from players (I believe) than he has teammates. He's not a popular guy.