Mountaintop Monastery of Dejounte Murray

[tholdren]

No doubt but we already saw improvement in the latter half of the year. I’m not saying he will a be star tomorrow but I believe he has the tools and determination to get there. It seems the Spurs org also thinks he does as well. Give him some time and another couple of summers. I’m expecting a big jump offensively after this summer.

Lol

[coachmac87]

His rebounding got him this award..period

[tholdren]

His rebounding got him this award..period

Yep. He sucks, useless stats get awards

[coachmac87]

Yep. He sucks, useless stats get awards

Rebound is a defensive stat....

Last line of defense..Basketball 101

[Nathan89]

Spurstalk has hated shitty shooting guards for years. Not sure why so many people have hope for Murray. White is the only young player on the team that I am excited to watch going forward. Can't wait to see him dominate summer league.

[duncan2k5]

His rebounding got him this award..period

Wait...rebounding is bad now?? Lmfao! And since when is our players beikg recognized by the nba for something good a bad thing?? Soon if murray starts to score on a regular basis, u guys will say points dont count

[acoelho1]

Right! Rebounding is probably the most important aspect of a defense.

[tholdren]

Rebound is a defensive stat....

Last line of defense..Basketball 101

Lol u dumb

[tholdren]

Right! Rebounding is probably the most important aspect of a defense.

Bwahahahahaha

[Ditty]

His defense is good. Nothing special like his rebounding. He will get a better feel for the game with his age that will hopefully cut down on decision making mistaked. He will be a good player in the NBA for a while if he will learn how to shoot. I'm excited about Derrick White though as mentioned...

[HarlemHeat37]

He's a good defender at the most useless defensive position in basketball today:lol

Probably the worst offensive starting PG in the NBA, unfortunately..maybe Lonzo is worse, that's it..

[tholdren]

He's a good defender at the most useless defensive position in basketball today:lol

Probably the worst offensive starting PG in the NBA, unfortunately..maybe Lonzo is worse, that's it..

Yet they are both in nba... joke of talent

[MaNu4Tres]

He's a good defender at the most useless defensive position in basketball today:lol

Probably the worst offensive starting PG in the NBA, unfortunately..maybe Lonzo is worse, that's it..

He turned a corner after the AS break once Pop gave him the reigns.

Starting converting in the paint at a higher % ( above league avg at 64%).

And also started taking and making jumpers ( 36% from midrange, 41% in corner 3s).

He'll keep improving and be stud.

[Nathan89]

I don't see any players resembling Murray on the Rockets tbh.

[coachmac87]

Wait...rebounding is bad now?? Lmfao! And since when is our players beikg recognized by the nba for something good a bad thing?? Soon if murray starts to score on a regular basis, u guys will say points dont count

Never said it was bad lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Yet they are both in nba... joke of talent

Yes, I'm sure your 50-year old, pasty, 5'10" ass could beat them in a basketball game:lol

[TimDunkem]

Yes, I'm sure your 50-year old, pasty, 5'10" ass could beat them in a basketball game:lol

:lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Yes, I'm sure your 50-year old, pasty, 5'10" ass could beat them in a basketball game:lol
He just talks and talks without ever identifying where the ‘real talent’ in the world is.

[tholdren]

Yes, I'm sure your 50-year old, pasty, 5'10" ass could beat them in a basketball game:lol

Sad you think they are good....

[tholdren]

He just talks and talks without ever identifying where the ‘real talent’ in the world is.

Talent is subjective, so it wouldnt matter where i said it was. If you think players like nick young, lonzo ball, carmelo anthony are better than everyone who isnt in the nba, you have been faked by the media. Its a product to sell....

Also, pro wrestling isnt real

[tholdren]

Talent is subjective, so it wouldnt matter where i said it was. If you think players like nick young, lonzo ball, carmelo anthony are better than everyone who isnt in the nba, you have been faked by the media. Its a product to sell....

Also, pro wrestling isnt real

[Ginobilly]

Talent is subjective, so it wouldnt matter where i said it was. If you think players like nick young, lonzo ball, carmelo anthony are better than everyone who isnt in the nba, you have been faked by the media. Its a product to sell....

Also, pro wrestling isnt real

Yup. There's probably without a doubt countless young black, hispanic, white kids in america and around the world washing dishes at your local hooters and working in construction who are better athletes and shooters than lonzo and Murray. But due to politics, circumstances due to $, bad parents, didn't get the opportunities to even try out. Hasn't the professor beaten nba, international players 1 on 1?

[TD 21]

I don't see the requisite off the dribble dynamism to be more than a secondary ball handler/play maker. They should be viewing him as their version of Smart/Exum, which means graduating from non to at least bad and willing 3-point shooter.

In the event Leonard is retained, Evans should be the obvious target. Instead, they'll probably hope Murray can be more, likely give Parker a loyalty contract and with either Ginobili returning or White waiting in the wings, think they have enough guards who can create and look to sign a 3 and D type, if they sign one at all.

[ace3g]

1001238082954416133

[dabom]

1001238082954416133

:lmao

@chinfaggot Chinook :lmao :lmao

[Chinook]

:lmao

@chinfaggot Chinook :lmao :lmao

You realize he's talking about Pop, right?

[dabom]

You realize he's talking about Pop, right?

Didn't even see that. :lol

[Chinook]

Didn't even see that. :lol

You just got excited. I forgive you. I wish he were talking about Kawhi.

[dabom]

You just got excited. I forgive you. I wish he were talking about Kawhi.

:lol

[tholdren]

Talent is subjective, so it wouldnt matter where i said it was. If you think players like nick young, lonzo ball, carmelo anthony are better than everyone who isnt in the nba, you have been faked by the media. Its a product to sell....

Also, pro wrestling isnt real

[spurraider21]

:lmao

@chinfaggot Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) :lmao :lmao


You realize he's talking about Pop, right?
:lmao

[Leetonidas]

You realize he's talking about Pop, right?

:lmao cmon...

[spursistan]

You realize he's talking about Pop, right?
:lmao..

Dabom with the impulsive bads when a poster is rent-free in his head..

[ducks]

I don't see any players resembling Murray on the Rockets tbh.

yeah their guards do not rebound

[acoelho1]

What's really funny is ST poster's thinking Murray's lack of affirmation on the Kawhi's situation makes any difference in the outcome. Same folks who have been wrong time and time again continue to spread baseless arguments. Can't wait to see Murray and Kawhi do damage next year.

[SAGirl]

:lmao..

Dabom with the impulsive bads when a poster is rent-free in his head..
lol at least that one was funny.
:lol

[DAF86]

I don't see the requisite off the dribble dynamism to be more than a secondary ball handler/play maker. They should be viewing him as their version of Smart/Exum, which means graduating from non to at least bad and willing 3-point shooter.

In the event Leonard is retained, Evans should be the obvious target. Instead, they'll probably hope Murray can be more, likely give Parker a loyalty contract and with either Ginobili returning or White waiting in the wings, think they have enough guards who can create and look to sign a 3 and D type, if they sign one at all.

This, tbh. Shooting and missing is still better than passing up a wide open look.

[DAF86]

Didn't even see that. :lol

Props son, for admitting when you are wrong. Many ST posters should learn from you, imho.

[dabom]

Props son, for admitting when you are wrong. Many ST posters should learn from you, imho.

I've been wrong before. I dont mind. Not the end of the world. Some people are just scared to be wrong sometimes. Very bad trait if you ask me.

[Em-City]

Props son, for admitting when you are wrong. Many ST posters should learn from you, imho.
elevated to role model/mentor status :wow

[tholdren]

Props son, for admitting when you are wrong. Many ST posters should learn from you, imho.

You still post tho

[ceds]

You still post tho

and yet you on a loop of 10k posts trying to convince theirs no talent in the NBA

[tholdren]

and yet you on a loop of 10k posts trying to convince theirs no talent in the NBA

And im correct

[ceds]

And im correct

Thats all you post about.....well aside from your 60 year old ass still being in "physical peak"

[tholdren]

Thats all you post about.....well aside from your 60 year old ass still being in "physical peak"

Just squatted 462 pounds 8 times. Deadlift 410 6 times. Bench 315 5 times today.

[ceds]

Just squatted 462 pounds 8 times. Deadlift 410 6 times. Bench 315 5 times today.

:lol sure you did tubby

[pad300]

Just squatted 462 pounds 8 times. Deadlift 410 6 times. Bench 315 5 times today.

Your squat is greater than your deadlift? That's odd...

[tholdren]

Your squat is greater than your deadlift? That's odd...

Weak post chain, and grip i think. I can rack pull a lot, just cant pull it from the floor. Limited flexibilty too

[DAF86]

You still post tho

Who are you son? :lol

[pad300]

Weak post chain, and grip i think. I can rack pull a lot, just cant pull it from the floor. Limited flexibilty too

You tried a hook grip? Also, how low are you going on your squats...

[tholdren]

You tried a hook grip? Also, how low are you going on your squats...

Parallel on the heavy lifts and below when i rep double digits or static hold. Hip flexors were a culprit in younger days and still are

[Drom John]

He's a good defender at the most useless defensive position in basketball today:lol

Probably the worst offensive starting PG in the NBA, unfortunately..maybe Lonzo is worse, that's it..

Again, per minute, Real Plus-Minus ORPM for PG:
#1 James Harden
#19 Patty Mills
#58 Derrick White
#62 Lonzo Ball
#85 Dejounte Murray
#92 Tony Parker
#103 (last) Juwan Evans

[tholdren]

Lol plus minus

[cd021]

I don't see the requisite off the dribble dynamism to be more than a secondary ball handler/play maker. They should be viewing him as their version of Smart/Exum, which means graduating from non to at least bad and willing 3-point shooter.

In the event Leonard is retained, Evans should be the obvious target. Instead, they'll probably hope Murray can be more, likely give Parker a loyalty contract and with either Ginobili returning or White waiting in the wings, think they have enough guards who can create and look to sign a 3 and D type, if they sign one at all.

-Agreed. I wonder if the coaching staff told Murray to not take 3's during the first half of the season and gave him the go ahead in the second half of the year

Pre All Star- 58 games, 19 3pt attempts
Post All Star ( plus PS)- 28 Games, 21 3pt attempts

his form is actually good, I'd be fine with him upping his attempts to around 2 or 2.5 a game , regardless of the percentage. Him shooting 30% on 1 attempt per game isn't going to cause him to improve and gain more confidence in his shot. Teams are going to leave him open, he's going to have to at least take that shot.

If Kawhi is brought back, then I expect a fairly quite off-season; in terms of moves, with PATFO essentially bringing back the same team but them playing different, with LMA playing even more at the 5 and the team playing with more pace and space.

I was dubious to the idea that Green could be retained but it's looking like the market might be brutal for a role player like him, Gay too, bad teams have the cap space but wouldn't be interested and quite good teams are trying are close to the tax so they won't be able to offer the full MLE. I expect both to be back, Bertans, Parker, and Anderson as well.

They should still be able to have the full MLE available but would probably be looking for a player willing to do a 1+1 like Gay did, Tyreke probably would be only interested if he got the full MLE over 4 years, cashing in on his season.


I think they don't bring anyone in, though they might go hard after Avery Bradley who wants a big deal but is unlikely to actually get it.

Murray, Green, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Mills, Manu, Anderson, Gasol

or

Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Green, Bertans, Anderson, Gasol
(in the event that Manu retires)

is probably what the rotation would look like if Kawhi returns.

[tholdren]

:lol sure you did tubby

Umad?

[TD 21]

-Agreed. I wonder if the coaching staff told Murray to not take 3's during the first half of the season and gave him the go ahead in the second half of the year

Pre All Star- 58 games, 19 3pt attempts
Post All Star ( plus PS)- 28 Games, 21 3pt attempts

his form is actually good, I'd be fine with him upping his attempts to around 2 or 2.5 a game , regardless of the percentage. Him shooting 30% on 1 attempt per game isn't going to cause him to improve and gain more confidence in his shot. Teams are going to leave him open, he's going to have to at least take that shot.

If Kawhi is brought back, then I expect a fairly quite off-season; in terms of moves, with PATFO essentially bringing back the same team but them playing different, with LMA playing even more at the 5 and the team playing with more pace and space.

I was dubious to the idea that Green could be retained but it's looking like the market might be brutal for a role player like him, Gay too, bad teams have the cap space but wouldn't be interested and quite good teams are trying are close to the tax so they won't be able to offer the full MLE. I expect both to be back, Bertans, Parker, and Anderson as well.

They should still be able to have the full MLE available but would probably be looking for a player willing to do a 1+1 like Gay did, Tyreke probably would be only interested if he got the full MLE over 4 years, cashing in on his season.


I think they don't bring anyone in, though they might go hard after Avery Bradley who wants a big deal but is unlikely to actually get it.

Murray, Green, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Mills, Manu, Anderson, Gasol

or

Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Green, Bertans, Anderson, Gasol
(in the event that Manu retires)

is probably what the rotation would look like if Kawhi returns.

Probably, because he shot more 3s last season.

Exactly. You don't have to be even average from 3 to not completely destroy spacing, you just have to shoot around 30% on reasonable volume and not turn down wide open ones. There's plenty of examples of this (Jeff and Draymond Green, Iguodala, etc.).

Same. I think there's a better than 50% chance they make no significant acquisition, especially if, as I suspect, they draft an NBA ready or close 3 and D type.

4 year contracts are now rare. For a non star, with durability issues, going on 29, I can't see Evans getting more than 3. He might even only be able to command 2, with a partial guarantee for the 3rd.

They showed no interest in starting Gay during the regular season mostly without Leonard, so I doubt they would with him. Gasol probably continues to generally start. Playing Parker and Mills together, is asking to get destroyed defensively.

[JPB]

This board is like a virtual attention ho black hole. Or some kind of no lifer 101...

Introducing n°1 in the "who do you think you fooling and who cares anyway?" standings, the classic and always fascinating old, insecure "I'm in my prime" weight lifter farts and their bench press. All missing now a rant about milleneniums and their lack of game and how he's banging hot teens all over the place.

[tholdren]

This board is like a virtual attention ho black hole. Or some kind of no lifer 101...

Introducing n°1 in the "who do you think you fooling and who cares anyway?" standings, the classic and always fascinating old, insecure "I'm in my prime" weight lifter farts and their bench press. All missing now a rant about milleneniums and their lack of game and how he's banging hot teens all over the place.

Thanks for posting to get attention. Typical millenenium

[MaNu4Tres]

Murray, Green, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Mills, Manu, Anderson, Gasol

or

Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay, LMA
Parker, Green, Bertans, Anderson, Gasol
(in the event that Manu retires)

is probably what the rotation would look like if Kawhi returns.

There's no way Spurs go another season without White in the rotation. And theres no way Gay starts.

I honestly dont see Tony back in a role if hes back. Spurs cant be that delusional and force maybe the best guard they have out of the rotation once again ( White).

If Kawhi is back, I think it will be this:

Murray - Hezonja/Evans/Green/ Ellington - Kawhi - Kyle - LA

Mills - White - Huerter/Keita Bates Diop/ Troy Brown JR/ Melvin Frazier/BAE signing (Ennis)- Gay/Bertans - Pau

Lauvergne ( dont think he opts out) - Blossomgame - Milutinov- Forbes

I think Manu retires and I think Tony gets offered a better deal financially & more playing time elsewhere. I don't think Tony wants to return to be the 3rd PG and I dont think Spurs are delusional enough to where they'd prefer Mills to start at the 2 spot getting 30 minutes per moving forward. If they want that to be the plan then they have lost it.

** Players with / next to their name means or, not and.

[John B]

Murray needs those PNR shoulder shots and occasional 3’s when open. That’s why Tony will be back to show him the ropes/mentor/assistant coach. Manu could retire though. I don’t think he’ll play with Kawhi. Because Kawhi will be back, and Spurs will move mountains to surround him with talents. I think where Kawhi plays, LeBron will play as best duo to take down Dubs. Gay will be the new 6th man and possibly most improved player and 6th man award. If Zhaire Smith is available, please please please get him. He will bring down the roof, and will forgive FO for letting Simmons walked. Pau is traded to join his brother. Milutinov comes as backup big. White will be a stud and occasionally will pair with Murray to give him more minutes. I think will see a very exciting team next season :flag:

[TD 21]

There's no way Spurs go another season without White in the rotation. And theres no way Gay starts.

I honestly dont see Tony back in a role if hes back. Spurs cant be that delusional and force maybe the best guard they have out of the rotation once again ( White).

If Kawhi is back, I think it will be this:

Murray - Hezonja/Evans/Green/ Ellington - Kawhi - Kyle - LA

Mills - White - Huerter/Keita Bates Diop/ Troy Brown JR/ Melvin Frazier/BAE signing (Ennis)- Gay/Bertans - Pau

Lauvergne ( dont think he opts out) - Blossomgame - Milutinov- Forbes

I think Manu retires and I think Tony gets offered a better deal financially & more playing time elsewhere. I don't think Tony wants to return to be the 3rd PG and I dont think Spurs are delusional enough to where they'd prefer Mills to start at the 2 spot getting 30 minutes per moving forward. If they want that to be the plan then they have lost it.

** Players with / next to their name means or, not and.

For White to be in the rotation, 2 of Ginobili, Parker, Green or Anderson, have to either not retire or be re-signed. Just 1 not being would open up minutes though. Forbes cleared 1500 as a projected non rotation player last season, while Simmons and Anderson cleared 1300 and 1000 respectively, going back and forth the season before.

I can't imagine either the front office or Parker bothering if it's to be a non rotation player. I think they'll give him a 1 year contract to prove that he's not finished and when he can't, they'll let him down easy by saying they gave him a year after surgery and little to nothing changed.

Hezonja is a name I see mentioned a lot, but despite being foreign he doesn't seem like Spurs material. He's known for being arrogant and pouty (I know Gasol is too, but he has Spurs-y elements). There's also plenty of teams with a greater need for size on the wing, including some with significant cap space.

They don't need quantity in the back court, they need quality, in the form of a starting caliber guard, who can either score/play make or provide 3 and D. Mills and Forbes can only shoot and White can shoot too, so Ellington would be redundant.

[cd021]

There's no way Spurs go another season without White in the rotation. And theres no way Gay starts.

I honestly dont see Tony back in a role if hes back. Spurs cant be that delusional and force maybe the best guard they have out of the rotation once again ( White).

If Kawhi is back, I think it will be this:

Murray - Hezonja/Evans/Green/ Ellington - Kawhi - Kyle - LA

Mills - White - Huerter/Keita Bates Diop/ Troy Brown JR/ Melvin Frazier/BAE signing (Ennis)- Gay/Bertans - Pau

Lauvergne ( dont think he opts out) - Blossomgame - Milutinov- Forbes

I think Manu retires and I think Tony gets offered a better deal financially & more playing time elsewhere. I don't think Tony wants to return to be the 3rd PG and I dont think Spurs are delusional enough to where they'd prefer Mills to start at the 2 spot getting 30 minutes per moving forward. If they want that to be the plan then they have lost it.

** Players with / next to their name means or, not and.

-I disagree, I think starting Anderson and Murray is a no-go with Kawhi and LMA.

- TD 21 and I talked about Murray upping his attempts to around 2-2.5 3's per game, even if he's only hitting 30 %, that is a big improvement- if nothing else because it allows him to be more of a factor without the ball in his hand, but Anderson sharing the floor then teams are gonna sag off each of them, muddying up the spacing for Kawhi and.

- Splitting the PF minutes between Gay and Anderson 26/22 sounds about right. Having Gasol as the backup 5 playing around 20 mpg, (including a few minutes with Aldridge) is more useful than him starting and carves out playing time for Anderson, who is a solid 4, but Gay provides spacing and an offensive threat that he doesn't.

-I don't see the Spurs bringing in a rotation player, unless it's someone like Avery Bradley on a 1+1 after he figures out that he isn't getting more than $10 million a season- if that.

-White may not be in line for a rotation spot this season, maybe a Forbes type role but probably not playing every night. Also, its really odd that he played so few minutes as a rookie, he played the fewest minutes from a Spurs 1st rounder pick since Mihinmi.

-I could see Bertans and Anderson both being brought back on fair 3 year deals (something like 3 years, $20 million) while Parker is retained on a 2 year, $8 million dollar deal (a compromise; he wants 3 years and the Spurs probably wanted him back with the vet min. but adding another 2 million per isn't going to kill them). Gay may opt in and play it safe, next off season is supposed to be better for FA's.

I think Manu retires and the Spurs draft Thomas, Diop, or hopefully Simon's but I expect the rotation to be largely the same- just reshaped.

SL-Mills, Murray, Kawhi, Gay, LMA

Bench-Parker, Green, Bertans, Anderson, Gasol

Deep Bench-White, 1st rounder, Milutinov? Joff (:depressed)

[cd021]

Probably, because he shot more 3s last season.

Exactly. You don't have to be even average from 3 to not completely destroy spacing, you just have to shoot around 30% on reasonable volume and not turn down wide open ones. There's plenty of examples of this (Jeff and Draymond Green, Iguodala, etc.).

Same. I think there's a better than 50% chance they make no significant acquisition, especially if, as I suspect, they draft an NBA ready or close 3 and D type.

4 year contracts are now rare. For a non star, with durability issues, going on 29, I can't see Evans getting more than 3. He might even only be able to command 2, with a partial guarantee for the 3rd.

They showed no interest in starting Gay during the regular season mostly without Leonard, so I doubt they would with him. Gasol probably continues to generally start. Playing Parker and Mills together, is asking to get destroyed defensively.

-I think ( and hope) Gasol's days as a starter are over, he'd be better as the backup 5. Gay was coming off an significant injury and there was some uncertainty of when Kawhi was actually going to return so they had him come off the bench.

-Just before, and after the all-star break plus the playoffs, Gasol came off the bench with Anderson and then Gay as the 4. Also Bertans played almost 1100 minutes, with almost all of them at the 4 (mostly with LMA at the 5) I think Pop realizes that having Aldridge as the 5 is best, not only for LMA but for the team. The units when he played center was significantly better and only slightly worse defensively iirc.

-Starting Gay with Murray, Green/Mills, Kawhi and LMA gives the Spurs defensively versatility and allows them to play more modern ball with 3 high volume 3pt shooters, Aldridge in the post, popping out or rolling to the rim and Murray.

-Separating Parker and Mills would probably be for the best and makes it easier to hide them on D.

-I could see the Spurs drafting Diop or Thomas but I would hope they go with Simons in an upside play. Adding a 6'8, athletic, freakishly long, 3 and D, 3/4 type or a defensive minded guard with good physical tools is hard to pass up though.

[duncan2k5]

I don't get why ppl think PG rebounding isn't important... It is even more important now than ever because of how the game is played... In this era of big men having to guard on the perimeter, you need the smaller positions to pick up the slack... Big reason why big men rebounds are down,even though the pace is higher, but up for other positions... Don't sleep on Murray's rebounding... Now the next step for him is getting those rebounds and running the court... Speed up the game

[TD 21]

-I think ( and hope) Gasol's days as a starter are over, he'd be better as the backup 5. Gay was coming off an significant injury and there was some uncertainty of when Kawhi was actually going to return so they had him come off the bench.


-Just before, and after the all-star break plus the playoffs, Gasol came off the bench with Anderson and then Gay as the 4. Also Bertans played almost 1100 minutes, with almost all of them at the 4 (mostly with LMA at the 5) I think Pop realizes that having Aldridge as the 5 is best, not only for LMA but for the team. The units when he played center was significantly better and only slightly worse defensively iirc.

-Starting Gay with Murray, Green/Mills, Kawhi and LMA gives the Spurs defensively versatility and allows them to play more modern ball with 3 high volume 3pt shooters, Aldridge in the post, popping out or rolling to the rim and Murray.

-Separating Parker and Mills would probably be for the best and makes it easier to hide them on D.

-I could see the Spurs drafting Diop or Thomas but I would hope they go with Simons in an upside play. Adding a 6'8, athletic, freakishly long, 3 and D, 3/4 type or a defensive minded guard with good physical tools is hard to pass up though.

Even on a minutes limit, if they didn't start Gay despite the lack of anything resembling a perimeter threat in the starting lineup, I can't see them doing so if Leonard is retained.

Gasol also primarily came off the bench post All-Star break the previous season, yet was back starting pre All-Star break last season. We all know he's going to play some with Aldridge anyway to get his minutes into the 20s (that way, they can attempt to somewhat justify his contract and shut him up), so it doesn't really matter if it's the first 6 minutes of each half or spread throughout.

Gay's 3pt rate was 22%, Gasol's was 19.1%.

Parker-Mills is the inverse of Anderson-Murray. No matter how we all spin it, what we're all really saying is, the roster as presently constructed doesn't fit.

The knocks on Bates-Diop, are his supposed lack of toughness and poor motor. Also, unless they commit to Aldridge as a full time C sooner than later, a combo forward would probably have difficulty earning a substantial role. That's why I think a guard/wing is more likely. Young claims they're "eyeing an athletic wing".

[CGD]

SL-Mills, Murray, Kawhi, Gay, LMA

Bench-Parker, Green, Bertans, Anderson, Gasol

Deep Bench-White, 1st rounder, Milutinov? Joff (:depressed)

If Leonard stays, it would be a disaster if they don’t use the MLE to improve that sorry roster.

[duncan2k5]

Murray was dropping threes straight in his snapchat... There was a point he had to hit 5 in a row to win and he did it with ease... He just needs to keep his form consistent... Learn from Ray Allen... He was betting a bit cocky with it and styling off at the end of his shot... But it was a good sign... Hopefully he keeps practicing not just by himself, but with trainers

[tholdren]

I don't get why ppl think PG rebounding isn't important... It is even more important now than ever because of how the game is played... In this era of big men having to guard on the perimeter, you need the smaller positions to pick up the slack... Big reason why big men rebounds are down,even though the pace is higher, but up for other positions... Don't sleep on Murray's rebounding... Now the next step for him is getting those rebounds and running the court... Speed up the game
It is important. But when you have a pg that cant dribble, pass, shoot, get into transition, and can only rebound, it doesnt matter.

[duncan2k5]

It is important. But when you have a pg that cant dribble, pass, shoot, get into transition, and can only rebound, it doesnt matter.

When u have a pg that's 21...it matters

[cd021]

If Leonard stays, it would be a disaster if they don’t use the MLE to improve that sorry roster.

It's not inconceivable that this team has a $145 million payroll with that aforementioned roster. That would be about $12-14 over the luxury tax adding another $9 million to those numbers would probably be something that they are unwilling to do.


I mentioned they could try and entice Avery Bradley on a 1+1 after his bubble gets burst when he doesn't get the big deal that he is reportedly seeking, that or they may use some of It to bring over Militinov.

[ace3g]

1004857998806781953

[spurraider21]

im glad he's practicing his dunking

[TheGreatYacht]

All-NBA Instagram first teamer

[RichB]

Murray was dropping threes straight in his snapchat... There was a point he had to hit 5 in a row to win and he did it with ease... He just needs to keep his form consistent... Learn from Ray Allen... He was betting a bit cocky with it and styling off at the end of his shot... But it was a good sign... Hopefully he keeps practicing not just by himself, but with trainers

How much does we weigh? I am hoping he can bulk up a little more.

[tholdren]

Nba has no talent

[DAF86]

Keep working on that corner three son, and never hesitate to shoot. 33% from 3 is still better than passing up a wide open three for an ugly floater.

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[cd98]

Glad he’s dunking the ball when no defense is there. Seems like whenever there’s a defender in the paint, he gets blocked.

[John B]

Better hit them 1000 shots a day. He’d be best at 3-D with KL/Bron at point forward.

[cutewizard]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/11/17437814/2017-18-spurs-player-reviews-dejounte-murray

[duncan2k5]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/11/17437814/2017-18-spurs-player-reviews-dejounte-murray

Fairly accurate

[picnroll]

Accurate except they didn’t include Alvin Robertson being an all NBA defender 3 times including defensive player of the year in 86.

[RD2191]

All-NBA Instagram first teamer

:lol

[BillMc]

All-NBA Instagram first teamer
:lol

[cutewizard]

Accurate except they didn’t include Alvin Robertson being an all NBA defender 3 times including defensive player of the year in 86.

They missed that. If zim not mistaken, he is one of only 4 players to perform the quadruple double.

[exstatic]

They missed that. If zim not mistaken, he is one of only 4 players to perform the quadruple double.

Yup. Five QDs, ever. Hakeem is the only player to do it twice, and Alvin was the only one with 10 in the steals category as one of his four doubles, and the only guard on the list. Everyone else did pts/rebs/blks/assts.

[spurraider21]

Yup. Five QDs, ever. Hakeem is the only player to do it twice, and Alvin was the only one with 10 in the steals category as one of his four doubles, and the only guard on the list. Everyone else did pts/rebs/blks/assts.
hakeem only had 1 tbh

[Chinook]

Tim arguably had one as well. Westbrook would have gotten the benefit of the doubt

[exstatic]

Tim arguably had one as well. Westbrook would have gotten the benefit of the doubt

Byron Scott was bitching up a storm, and had Tim's 9th block called a foul in 2003/gm6.

[DPG21920]

im glad he's practicing his dunking

People on here are hilarious. He works his butt off. People get mad at Danny saying he doesn’t work hard enough. People make fun of Murray because he’s not even taking days off but they don’t like how he’s working or that he Instagrams it.

It’s wild.

[tholdren]

People on here are hilarious. He works his butt off. People get mad at Danny saying he doesn’t work hard enough. People make fun of Murray because he’s not even taking days off but they don’t like how he’s working or that he Instagrams it.

It’s wild.

Because hes faking. Just like kl. Todays nba

[ace3g]

At least this time it isn't all dunks.

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[raybies]

At least this time it isn't all dunks.

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I wanna believe!... I know it's a highlight vid but gaht dam, if he gets a shot his ceiling goes to All Star and up

[lmbebo]

I wanna believe!... I know it's a highlight vid but gaht dam, if he gets a shot his ceiling goes to All Star and up

playing against who though?

[RD2191]

At least this time it isn't all dunks.

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He's playing against bums though tbh

[paperboy77]

Shot looks tons better. I hope he gains the confidence to shoot those very shots in games.

[Marcus Bryant]

Accurate except they didn’t include Alvin Robertson being an all NBA defender 3 times including defensive player of the year in 86.

Ah, Alvin. Good at basketball, bad at life.

[raybies]

playing against who though?
your insinuating that he's only making these against scrubs... but you miss the heart of the matter which is that he's making j's. You got to start somewhere. The kid is fearless. He's not gonna be afraid to take the same shots in a game, he's done some of it already... It all comes down to if he hits them regularly which is why I say " I wanna believe..."

[SAGirl]

Encouraged if his jump shot comes along for the ride. Someone else to look forward to watching this upcoming season. :toast

Edit: I was actually more encouraged by the jumpshot than the dunks... there was really no rim protection so the dunks don't tell me anything... but the jumpshot looks good. Don't know how many he missed tho. He only shows about 10 in that video. For all we know could have missed 50... Anyways, hope he keeps working on that J.

[coachmac87]

At least this time it isn't all dunks.

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Building that “Brand”...

And is that Klay Thompson’s twin?

[DPG21920]

I’m very excited about Murray/White. Say what you will about their flaws, it’s obvious both of those dudes work hard. If they fail, it won’t be because they didn’t bust their a**es.

[raybies]

It's crazy... I have no idea how high their ceiling is at this point... Very unclear... You get glimpses but they could be pretty special. We'll see. Makes me wish we could mend the relationship with Kawhi. Finally got some promising youth in the fold, a motivated LMA, and Gay which could be a solid 3 option if he stays healthy and continues to progress.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Highlights against the homies spliced together for social media is one thing.

Let's see a consistent jumper against the NBA.

[raybies]

Social media highlights against the homies spliced together is one thing.

Let's see a consistent jumper against the NBA.
Obviously...

[acoelho1]

Murray will be a star. He has the tools and more importantly the work ethic and toughness.

[K...]

It's crazy... I have no idea how high their ceiling is at this point... Very unclear... You get glimpses but they could be pretty special. We'll see. Makes me wish we could mend the relationship with Kawhi. Finally got some promising youth in the fold, a motivated LMA, and Gay which could be a solid 3 option if he stays healthy and continues to progress.

part me hopes kawhi leaves so we can build through the guards. Obviously kawhi may consent to reduce his touches from 2016/2017 but he is not a great passer and could stunt these players if remains the focal point of the offense.

[SpursBills]

His form looks a lot better. It's an edited video so he's probably missing a ton but as long as his form looks like it's improved that's progress

[SAGirl]

part me hopes kawhi leaves so we can build through the guards. Obviously kawhi may consent to reduce his touches from 2016/2017 but he is not a great passer and could stunt these players if remains the focal point of the offense.

I think Kawhi needed perimeter help both for playmaking and scoring. It showed with Tony's decline. If he was healthy and engaged I think they would be fine, but assuming health and commitment from Kawhi is a big "if".

[picnroll]

He should have edited 20 more pounds on him.

[ulosturedge]

He should be practicing nothing but jumpers and 3 point shots. Well and be more decisive with the ball. He gets stripped to easy.

[ace3g]

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[Namundy]

Looks like he's working hard, still not sold he'll ever be a great three point shooter. His form does look better but his feet are never pointing at the hoop. As long as he gets a corner three though that will be huge.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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I live in Seattle, I’ll be there can’t wait!!

[dabom]

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People laughed that that "rebounds" exchange with Pop, but he rebounded his way to an all defensive team. :tu

[dabom]

If he can start shooting at 38% from three, watch out. Big sign for other things.

[Ron Swanson]

I hope his uncle isn't an asshole.

[John B]

Our 3 guards rotation will surprise a lot of people, like Isiah, Dumars and Vinnie Johnson. Dang that shows my age :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

Murray showed out in Seattle yesterday wow

[tonight...you]

Murray showed out in Seattle yesterday wow

Yeah? How so bud?

[hooperflash]

Murray showed out in Seattle yesterday wow
He looked comfortable with his jump shots.. took it to the rim a few times as well :flag:

[emanueldavidginobili]

[QUOTE=tonight...you;9476228]Yeah? How so bud?[/QUOTE
if you have Instagram go on Ballislife page and his mix is on there from this weekend

[cutewizard]

Cool

[Stabula]

If he actually has a jumper this season and tightens his handles he might actually be starter worthy

[emanueldavidginobili]

Dejountey is going to average 15-6-4 this season

[8FOR!3]

I wouldn't say Dejounte has a jumper just yet, but he does seem like he's well on his way to developing it (in that it's trending in the right direction.) Handles look much improved as well.

[cutewizard]

I wouldn't say Dejounte has a jumper just yet, but he does seem like he's well on his way to developing it (in that it's trending in the right direction.) Handles look much improved as well.


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:bobo

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGBMhnp1tZE

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLvHtlc5k8Q

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ7GNJniE3Y

[DAF86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGBMhnp1tZE

Sign that number 3 guy on gray.

[Ice009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ7GNJniE3Y

Was that basket regulation height on that last dunk? If so he really got up there.

[SpursDynasty85]

Was that basket regulation height on that last dunk? If so he really got up there.

No way. His whole head is above the rim so quickly. To me. It's obvious it's about a foot shorter.

[Ice009]

No way. His whole head is above the rim so quickly. To me. It's obvious it's about a foot shorter.

Why would he put up video on himself dunking on a lower rim. I think it is lower, but what is the point of putting up video of that? I wish it was on regulation height as that would mean to me he's been working his ass off.

[sasaint]

Why would he put up video on himself dunking on a lower rim. I think it is lower, but what is the point of putting up video of that? I wish it was on regulation height as that would mean to me he's been working his ass off.

Agreed. Just strange. :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

That video of him dunking on a 7' 4" center looks totally staged too. Reaction by girl is overboard. Simple ways to get his videos viral and get people talking about him.

[kobyz]

Murray working on his muscles: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiwC4iVVQAAfFBh?format=jpg

[cutewizard]

Murray working on his muscles: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiwC4iVVQAAfFBh?format=jpg

Wow.......

[dabom]

Dejounte stay winning on these bitches. :lol

[GrapplingYautja]

Murray working on his muscles: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiwC4iVVQAAfFBh?format=jpg

The perks of not being a fucking mute.

[r0drig0lac]

Murray working on his muscles: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiwC4iVVQAAfFBh?format=jpg

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smihat.gif

[tonight...you]

:toast

Big fan.

Hope for the best DJ.

[SpursDynasty85]

Agree. DJ does have potential. Let's see if he can start knocking down that jumper and take better contact while driving to the basket. This is your year to show us another jump in skill and poise.

[BatManu20]

Fromhis IG a few min ago. My boy is putting in that work.

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[KDKSpurs24]

Fromhis IG a few min ago. My boy is putting in that work.

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He has great work ethic and you can tell he is not all talk about wanting to be great. I just have a strong feeling that he’s gonna take a big leap forward and surprise a ton of people. He may end up being the leading candidate for MIP. People talking about tanking but forgetting we have this guy and some other good young players with a lot of potential and great work ethic. I’m ready for next season to start.

[Chinook]

Fromhis IG a few min ago. My boy is putting in that work.

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Set shots are okay, especially with DeRozan in the fold now. But he's going to have to learn to hit those shots off movement before they really start to affect his offensive game. The good news is that with no Danny, DeJounte is going to probably be the guy to enter the ball to Aldridge most of the time. He'll have plenty of set-shot opportunities, to the point that he'll have to mix them up with cuts and duck-ins to keep his defender honest. But his ability to slip to the open spot is what would take him from a Bowen to a Prime Danny in terms of shooting dynamism.

[Stabula]

Liking what I see

[cutewizard]

He has great work ethic and you can tell he is not all talk about wanting to be great. I just have a strong feeling that he’s gonna take a big leap forward and surprise a ton of people. He may end up being the leading candidate for MIP. People talking about tanking but forgetting we have this guy and some other good young players with a lot of potential and great work ethic. I’m ready for next season to start.


Agree

[MaNu4Tres]

Set shots are okay, especially with DeRozan in the fold now. But he's going to have to learn to hit those shots off movement before they really start to affect his offensive game. The good news is that with no Danny, DeJounte is going to probably be the guy to enter the ball to Aldridge most of the time. He'll have plenty of set-shot opportunities, to the point that he'll have to mix them up with cuts and duck-ins to keep his defender honest. But his ability to slip to the open spot is what would take him from a Bowen to a Prime Danny in terms of shooting dynamism.

Dumping the ball to LA only happened 9% of the time during the 48 minutes per game last season.

Dont think people realize that it wasn't a big staple of the offense.

[DeRozan m8]

He does seem to have a decent work ethic, but he did last offseason too.

You can tell he's young by his ig posts tho lol

Still in his first love

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGBMhnp1tZE&t=131s

[DJR210]

Props to Murray for working to add a reliable jumper to his arsenal.. Saw a video posted on my feed of him draining 25 straight NBA 3's :tu

[TimmyBuckets]

Props to Murray for working to add a reliable jumper to his arsenal.. Saw a video posted on my feed of him draining 25 straight NBA 3's :tu

A lot of people saying that it won't translate b/c his release is too slow & he'll fold under pressure of nba D, but if he shoots league average or slightly below while taking 2-3 attempts a game, that's a fantastic improvement, and even if he's somewhat streak throughout the year, at least that's another guy who can spread the floor which is what was missing from last year

[SpursDynasty85]

A lot of people saying that it won't translate b/c his release is too slow & he'll fold under pressure of nba D, but if he shoots league average or slightly below while taking 2-3 attempts a game, that's a fantastic improvement, and even if he's somewhat streak throughout the year, at least that's another guy who can spread the floor which is what was missing from last year

Agree. He has the tools but just hadn't put it together. His release was super shaky because of confidence. If he just goes out and gets comfortable he will be a legit starter. It is great he seems incredibly motivated to get better and more fit. He does appear to have all star potential but it is probably 2 or 3 years from coming to fruition.

[DJR210]

Not having HOF Tony breathing down his neck should be a boost to his confidence too

[DAF86]

A lot of people saying that it won't translate b/c his release is too slow & he'll fold under pressure of nba D, but if he shoots league average or slightly below while taking 2-3 attempts a game, that's a fantastic improvement, and even if he's somewhat streak throughout the year, at least that's another guy who can spread the floor which is what was missing from last year

Whatever his %, he just has to let it fly without thinking.

[Othyus Lalanne]

The perks of not being a fucking mute.

Pretty sure someone in here saw his gf in Garmany or wherever that was.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Trashhhh

[superbigtime]

Murray working on his muscles: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiwC4iVVQAAfFBh?format=jpg

Her father must be thrilled with this picture. ...oh, wait...

[daslicer]

Her father must be thrilled with this picture. ...oh, wait...

The clip below shows her dad. She's actually from an upper middle class family judging by her family's house on her youtube channel.

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[superbigtime]

yep. lamp, mirror, dresser. Clearly in the upper half.

[tonight...you]

The clip below shows her dad. She's actually from an upper middle class family judging by her family's house on her youtube channel.

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She's hotness and doing the Kardashian thing. Not a bad plan... the Kardashians basically do rule the world now, right?

[SpursDynasty85]

https://youtu.be/PUGtXODMm_M

Could some help me post this YouTube video. I forgot how to do this. Thx in advance.

Dejounte's shot looking good.

[exstatic]

https://youtu.be/PUGtXODMm_M

Could some help me post this YouTube video. I forgot how to do this. Thx in advance.

Dejounte's shot looking good.
PUGtXODMm_M

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[SAGirl]

His shot is looking much better. I actually look forward to his improvements this upcoming season. If he puts his game together with a good jumper he does have star potential.

MIP candidate. :tu

[hooperflash]

Let’s go! New Avi (:

[DJR210]

Let’s go! New Avi (:

Should have used the one of him spreading his chick's ass

[hooperflash]

Should have used the one of him spreading his chick's ass
Hmm, maybe my sig :lol

[hooperflash]

Sign that number 3 guy on gray.
Ask the Suns if they’d be interested in trading him to us

[bic50]

The perks of not being a fucking mute.
Or just being in the NBA.

[BatManu20]

He’s a daddy.


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[BillMc]

He’s a daddy.


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Congrats to Dejounte.

[TimmyBuckets]

Well done DJ! Damn though baby mama issues already?

[BillMc]

Whatever his %, he just has to let it fly without thinking.

That's how he got to be a father. :king

[duncan2k5]

He’s a daddy.


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Is this real? His gf was never pregnant...

[San Antonio Slayer]

Is this real? His gf was never pregnant...
...Tashiki was born pregnant...)))

[cutewizard]

If anyone here knows the Ilokano Language,

Heres a pun:

Agmurmuray ni Murray, hehehe

[BatManu20]

Is this real? His gf was never pregnant...

It was his gf from college. Not that new Jilly chick he's dating.

[TheDoctor]

DeJounte’s daughter looks like Kawhi or nah?

[Trill Clinton]

This monastery has turned into a TMZ gossip thread.

[cd98]

DeJounte’s daughter looks like Kawhi or nah?

Naw. Kawhi doesn't have game. If anything like that happened, it would be the other way around.

[dabom]

DeJounte’s daughter looks like Kawhi or nah?

Yeah... they're both black.

[buttsR4rebounding]

DeJounte’s daughter looks like Kawhi or nah?

Nah, just the same vocabulary.

[TimmyBuckets]

DJ needs to work more on his dribble and ability to create. I saw the crawsover video and all the other vids so offer in the offseason and even though he's working on his shot, his shot creation is questionable. Granted, he's not going all out, but still the evidence is there. It would be nice if he can improve on the traditional guard skills as well. Probably gonna be another year or 2 until he can have a decent dribble.

[TheDoctor]

Nah, just the same vocabulary.
Fucking winner :lmao

[cutewizard]

DJ needs to work more on his dribble and ability to create. I saw the crawsover video and all the other vids so offer in the offseason and even though he's working on his shot, his shot creation is questionable. Granted, he's not going all out, but still the evidence is there. It would be nice if he can improve on the traditional guard skills as well. Probably gonna be another year or 2 until he can have a decent dribble.

Totally agree.........

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA_AU/status/1042648780342910976

[John B]

just hit the freakin 3 when open, hug the ball and go strong if he’s going to the hole. He doesn’t need fancy dribbling, just rebound, fastbreak if possible, if not give down to LMA or let DeRozan create. And yup, suffocate the opposing point guard.

[Larry O]

Oops! Meant to post this, but happy belated birthday to Dejounte (Sept. 19th)!!! Hope it will be a good year for him (growth) that will translate on the court & will be a positive outcome for him as well as the Sprurs' team. In NBA TV's 2018-19 Perdictions Show, they perdict that he will have a break-out year, & be a canidate for most improved player. Pre-season is just around the corner! Lookng forward to seeing what DJ has improved on. Happy birthday Dejounte, & GSG!!!

[duncan2k5]

DJ has a gold defensive stopper badge in 2k...getting some serious love on the defensive end

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/TravTalksSports/status/1084332329940578305

[Indianman]

Is he a couple of months away from a return cause that would be epic!

[duncan2k5]

DJ out here looking like he can dunk on fools right NOW

[CGD]

Random question: does this guy sit behind the bench at games? feel I haven’t seen him In a minute. Could be for good reasons of course (like training etc.), just curious.

[wildcardX]

Is he a couple of months away from a return cause that would be epic!


From what I have seen with ACL surgery, it takes about 8-12 months to get released to play depending on the sport. I would say 12 full months to be game ready. Pro sports though has the best doctors and probably uses the latest surgical tech plus athletes are doing physical therapy about every day, instead of 2-3 times a week which normal insurance covers. So it could be a faster recovery. At three months post op the person can start jogging, hopping, and light agility exercises. For basketball it is the quick movement cutting, sprinting/stopping fast, and awkward landings on jumps that take the longest to recover as well as the physical contact.

[SequSpur]

This is a stupid topic.

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/TravTalksSports/status/1084332329940578305
nice

[cutewizard]

Hmmmm

[jermaine]

He sees White taking his spot as the starter.... Gotta be eating at his ass.

[playbonner15]

I think Pop will play him first at Austin. Would be great if he can get some minutes come playoff time. Would be great to have him starting then white subs in for Forbes or Murray depending on who's playing like ass

[Dverde]

He sees White taking his spot as the starter.... Gotta be eating at his ass.

My hope is it gives the Spurs more leverage during contract negotiations during the offseason. I’d still love to lock up DJ with a new contract.

[lefty20]

He's not coming back this year, tbh.

[duncan2k5]

From what I have seen with ACL surgery, it takes about 8-12 months to get released to play depending on the sport. I would say 12 full months to be game ready. Pro sports though has the best doctors and probably uses the latest surgical tech plus athletes are doing physical therapy about every day, instead of 2-3 times a week which normal insurance covers. So it could be a faster recovery. At three months post op the person can start jogging, hopping, and light agility exercises. For basketball it is the quick movement cutting, sprinting/stopping fast, and awkward landings on jumps that take the longest to recover as well as the physical contact.

Pro sports actually doesn't have the best doctors

[jermaine]

Lil nicca better have a Jumpernext season. His shot should be wet when he comes back with all the time he has... I pray he's not rushing back to do the same ole shit. He could comeback to be Rondo 2.0 with a reliable shot, he'll be great

[John B]

He better be shooting 1000 shots a day. White and Forbes progress could actually motivate him more tbh. He’d be a longer Glove who can really disrupt the opponents offensive flow. And if Walker does the same, we have the best 3 guards combo. We ring up baby! :downspin:

[TimmyBuckets]

Progress! :lmao at the posters who wanna trade this guy. Delusional.

[Mikeanaro]

Great, more Insta shit, nigga is doing nothing and all you guys get horny.

[cd021]

From what I have seen with ACL surgery, it takes about 8-12 months to get released to play depending on the sport. I would say 12 full months to be game ready. Pro sports though has the best doctors and probably uses the latest surgical tech plus athletes are doing physical therapy about every day, instead of 2-3 times a week which normal insurance covers. So it could be a faster recovery. At three months post op the person can start jogging, hopping, and light agility exercises. For basketball it is the quick movement cutting, sprinting/stopping fast, and awkward landings on jumps that take the longest to recover as well as the physical contact.

Most recent ACL tears seem to take around 9 months to recover from. Hopefully Murray will be able to have a full off-season to train and be ready to go by training camp.

[BackHome]

Don’t now why you all hating on this guy it’s not like he is playing and it’s not like he is faking injury (KY). People need to understand that Murray and Walker were both not ready for NBA but we’re drafted on potential. So it’s going to take two or three years before we can say they good or they a bust.

[Seventyniner]

From what I have seen with ACL surgery, it takes about 8-12 months to get released to play depending on the sport. I would say 12 full months to be game ready. Pro sports though has the best doctors and probably uses the latest surgical tech plus athletes are doing physical therapy about every day, instead of 2-3 times a week which normal insurance covers. So it could be a faster recovery. At three months post op the person can start jogging, hopping, and light agility exercises. For basketball it is the quick movement cutting, sprinting/stopping fast, and awkward landings on jumps that take the longest to recover as well as the physical contact.

If there's ever a "good" time to tear an ACL, it's when Murray did. He should be either 100% or very close to it by training camp in September.

[TimmyBuckets]

Don’t now why you all hating on this guy it’s not like he is playing and it’s not like he is faking injury (KY). People need to understand that Murray and Walker were both not ready for NBA but we’re drafted on potential. So it’s going to take two or three years before we can say they good or they a bust.

They hating b/c they saw 10 games of decent DW and think DJ should be traded, which is retarded. They hating b/c they hate when players use social media, which is retarded.

[Pavlov]

Nothing says old white guy like overreacting to social media posts from athletes. Especially ones with pics or videos.

[TD 21]

Nothing says old white guy like overreacting to social media posts from athletes. Especially ones with pics or videos.

:lmao

[Indianman]

(Bump)

Checked DJ's IG handle where he mentioned that he's started jogging. My pipe dream would be his return in the Finals against Kawhi and the Raptors.

[ace3g]

BtHohlCg5P7

[John B]

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Oh yeah baby! Can this guy come back if we go deep in the playoffs?

[BillMc]

BtHohlCg5P7

Ace for president!

[acoelho1]

Super excited about his return. People are really underestimating his talent. His stardom will come.

[CGD]

Looks like he’s worked on adding some weight to his frame

[hombre]

Yeah, he's only 22 years old folks.

[RD2191]

Needs to get some leg muscle. Looking like KD out there.

[KDKSpurs24]

BtHohlCg5P7
Is this shit normal? It’s hurting my knee just to watch! :lol

[313]

Nothing says old white guy like overreacting to social media posts from athletes. Especially ones with pics or videos.
:lmao

[r0drig0lac]

BtHohlCg5P7

a man on a mission https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toast.gif

[RC_Drunkford]

Good to see him shooting already. 9 more months of shooting drills til the start of next season should make him improve further

[ace3g]

https://i.ibb.co/fp7gWtK/Capture-1.jpg

[Mr. Body]

Man, that guy's skinny as fuck.

[Dverde]

This is all well and good, but seriously what is going on Dejounte with Jilly.

[HankChinaski]

There has to be strength conditioning to keep his overall muscle mass balanced. I wouldn't imagine him being any larger just yet. Possibly in the summer he may have some changes in that area.

[palangi]

Man, that guy's skinny as fuck.

Most basketball guys are skinny. Not an issue

[Mr. Body]

Most basketball guys are skinny. Not an issue

This dude makes twigs look fat.

[Russ]

This dude makes twigs look fat.

So did Gervin.

Chick Hearn once said Gervin could take a shower in a rifle barrel.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Everyone talking about how skinny he
is but has always held his own physically on the court. Mind you he’s a 22 year old kid.

[BD24]

This dude makes twigs look fat.
He actually has a decent amount of muscle. Look at his shoulders tbh.

[Pavlov]

Everyone talking about how skinny he
is but has always held his own physically on the court. Mind you he’s a 22 year old kid.I'd be worried if he were a frontline player. Plenty of time to put on weight at guard.

[playbonner15]

https://i.ibb.co/fp7gWtK/Capture-1.jpg

That caption tho

[vander]

Man I like this guy's attitude and work ethic, hope he's with the Spurs for next 15 years

[Seventyniner]

So did Gervin.

Chick Hearn once said Gervin could take a shower in a rifle barrel.

Durant also got lots of crap for being skinny, at least for his height. Murray will be fine.

[ceperez]

a man on a mission https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toast.gif

Progress! No rush... no need to make it this season.

[duncan2k5]

This is all well and good, but seriously what is going on Dejounte with Jilly.

They're still together and doing great apparently

[emanueldavidginobili]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtSAoErlO-z/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1x8jiwgb4a4pt

Couldn’t figure out how to embed, but DJ just posted this

[RD2191]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtSAoErlO-z/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1x8jiwgb4a4pt

Couldn’t figure out how to embed, but DJ just posted this

What was it? It's gone now.

[Dverde]

What was it? It's gone now.

It was just a random stock photo of him in a Spurs jersey. It said “I am ahead of schedule” it had a bunch of emojis like the eyes 👀, 💪, and 🤫

[diceman]

It was just a random stock photo of him in a Spurs jersey. It said “I am ahead of schedule” it had a bunch of emojis like the eyes ��, ��, and ��

I saw it. Wonder if someone from the Spurs had him take it down....

[RD2191]

It was just a random stock photo of him in a Spurs jersey. It said “I am ahead of schedule” it had a bunch of emojis like the eyes 👀, 💪, and 🤫

Oh ok. Weird. :lol

[Dverde]

I saw it. Wonder if someone from the Spurs had him take it down....

He just had a Instagram post about how the Spurs saved his life. Now they are trying to save his career by not rushing him back.

[Leetonidas]

DJ watching White shine as the starting PG and trying to rush back :lol

[playbonner15]

It was just a random stock photo of him in a Spurs jersey. It said “I am ahead of schedule” it had a bunch of emojis like the eyes , , and 狼
Yeah saw it. Hope he gets some minutes even if it's just 5-10min

[Slippy]

Everyone talking about how skinny he
is but has always held his own physically on the court. Mind you he’s a 22 year old kid.

Except when he jumped to take a shot, landed awkwardly and did his knee. There wasnt much physicality in that play. Twigs do break easier

[TimmyBuckets]

Zero chance he come back this season. Pop said so himself.