Mountaintop Monastery of Dejounte Murray

[Dverde]

Hawks would be dumb if they were looking to trade DJ instead of Trae. At least DJ tries to lead and play defense.

[poopbox]

^ it would also mean conceding that they screwed up the Doncic trade, so that’s a tough pill to swallow

How was the trade screwed up? They have both done the same things in their nba careers...be awful low effort defenders...make a fluke run to the conference finals one year...and have their teams shuffle out players and picks to try and fit with them with just about nothing working.

Luka and Trae are virtually the same player accomplishing the same thing in todays nba. Neither team would get any better trading one for the other right now.

They both even made their original coaches and GM's leave:lol

[spurraider21]

i dont think the hawks are trading Trae. not that i dont think they should, but i think they view him as their Curry and basically an untouchable

[Dverde]

DJ posted on twitter and deleted a post saying the trade talk was nonsense. Every word was capitalized which verifies it’s him.

[BatManu20]

DJ posted on twitter and deleted a post saying the trade talk was nonsense. Every word was capitalized which verifies it’s him.

:lol

Dude will never learn to stay off social media.

[Mr. Body]

Hawks have a lot of junk salaries. This isn't really wanting to get rid of Murray at all, but he's one that people might want, plus his extension will sting. Bogdanovic, Capela, De'Andre Hunter, John Collins, all make way too much money especially together. And Trae makes a ton on his own. This is the kind of hell bad franchises make for themselves.

[Sugus]

How was the trade screwed up? They have both done the same things in their nba careers...be awful low effort defenders...make a fluke run to the conference finals one year...and have their teams shuffle out players and picks to try and fit with them with just about nothing working.

Luka and Trae are virtually the same player accomplishing the same thing in todays nba. Neither team would get any better trading one for the other right now.

They both even made their original coaches and GM's leave:lol

That's a lot of words just to say you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, my man. You know you can just, say it, right? Less work tbh.

[25apr]

I like DJ. But Trae is a superior player and top ten offensive talent.
DJ had been a passive play maker latter half in Atl.
And he gives ball hundlers too much space on defense.
Hunter and Collins cannot dribble nor pass. But they are too expensive to move. No one wants them.
DJ is tradable easily.
If someone accept Hunter or Collins with DJ, Atlanta's win.
OO, AJ, JJ and Bey are there for Atl.

[exstatic]

I like DJ. But Trae is a superior player and top ten offensive talent.
DJ had been a passive play maker latter half in Atl.
And he gives ball hundlers too much space on defense.
Hunter and Collins cannot dribble nor pass. But they are too expensive to move. No one wants them.
DJ is tradable easily.
If someone accept Hunter or Collins with DJ, Atlanta's win.
OO, AJ, JJ and Bey are there for Atl.

Trae shot 33.5% from long last year. That doesn't place him in the top 10 offensive players, and is completely unacceptable for someone who plays zero defense.

[Fireball]

Trae is a horrible basketball player ...

[exstatic]

Trae is a horrible basketball player ...

There's only one kind of team you can build around him: multiple 3 and D guys to cover his awful defense. None of them will be able to create to any great extent, because if you add that to a 3 and D, you have an All Star, and no one is pulling that out of the draft or off the waiver wire.

[poopbox]

That's a lot of words just to say you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, my man. You know you can just, say it, right? Less work tbh.
Got to explain to a retard like you how luka and trae are the same player which is why they have accomplished the same thing on different teams. Because you know...you're a retard.

[LeBowen]

Got to explain to a retard like you how luka and trae are the same player which is why they have accomplished the same thing on different teams. Because you know...you're a retard.

You can't be serious, Luka and Trae the same player?
Look at the Mavs roster, lmao. Trae has a way better supporting cast and did less with it.

I'm not a fan of Luka's basketball, but he's an MVP level player. If he doesn't learn how to play team basketball, he will be just another Harden.
But Trae is a poor man's midget Harden. Even if he had the same offensive output as Luka, which he doesn't, he's still by far the worst defender in the league out of any relevant player. Curry is all-defense compared to him.

As most of us said when the trade happened, there was no way DJ/Trae backcourt would ever work. Just not happening. It's easier to trade DJ because noone will take Trae and his contract.

[poopbox]

You can't be serious, Luka and Trae the same player?
Look at the Mavs roster, lmao. Trae has a way better supporting cast and did less with it.

I'm not a fan of Luka's basketball, but he's an MVP level player. If he doesn't learn how to play team basketball, he will be just another Harden.
But Trae is a poor man's midget Harden. Even if he had the same offensive output as Luka, which he doesn't, he's still by far the worst defender in the league out of any relevant player. Curry is all-defense compared to him.

As most of us said when the trade happened, there was no way DJ/Trae backcourt would ever work. Just not happening. It's easier to trade DJ because noone will take Trae and his contract.

Trae has a better supporting cast?

Luka played with Kyrie, a multi time all nba player with a championship ring. Give me the name of the multi time all nba player that Trae has played with?

Luka has played for a coach with a championship. Give me the name of the championship caliber coach that Trae has played with?

Davis Bertans led the league in 3 point shooting the year before he got his big contract, which is why he got his big contract. Tell me the name of the player that Trae played with that led the league in 3 point shooting?

This is what I am talking about with these media narratives that people just blindly follow. Trae has had the better team its just that Luka has played with players who made more all star appearances than Trae has, more all nba selections than Trae has, more titles than Trae has, and a coach with more championships than any coach Trae has had. Completely illogical.

There is absolutely nothing about Luka that points to him being an mvp candidate other than a bunch of media people telling you he is. His numbers are not at all due to his actual basketball skill but more due to his insane usage rate.

Luka won't ever be "another harden" because Harden at least consistently gets out the first round. Luka would have to spend years doing that before he can even be in the same breath as all time 1st team playoff choker Harden.

You can slice a 16 inch pizza into 8 slices, or 5 slices, or 2 slices. But in the end...it's still a 16 inch pizza. That is what Trae and Luka are...you can slice and cut them up into all the different pieces you want...but in the end you end up with the same thing...which is why their careers have gone just about the exact same way up to this point.

[LeBowen]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

I was about to reply, but then I saw the Bertans bit and it's just not worth the time. Stop trolling on anonymous internet forums, I'm sure you've got more interesting things to do with your life.

Dallas is a dumpster tier franchise, they just lucked into Dirk being one of the most loyal players ever. If he left when he should've, they'd be seen in the same way as Timberwolves.

[spurraider21]

hawks probably trade capela and let okongwu take over. thats one salary dump there.

they also probably should move Hunter and slide Griffin in at SF. they dont have an obvious plan at PF beyond Collins, and hoping that his shooting comes back to form when he recovers from the finger injury he was playing through

DJM/Trae doesnt really work though, because both are much more effective on-ball

[R. DeMurre]

There was a great article on The Athletic website this week about Denver GM Calvin Booth and his obsession with positional size paired with skill, and I think that concept comes into play with Atlanta. The Hawks saw that Trae was a massive defensive liability, so they thought adding a defensive minded guard in the back court could help, but the issue is still positional size. Dejounte at 6'5" has great height and length for a PG, but once he's swung over to SG, he's just an average sized guy for that spot, and he's playing next to an undersized PG. If you had something like DJ as a 6'5" PG and, say, a Herb Jones type at SG, that would be a different story. Look at Denver, with a 6'4" Murray paired with a 6'5" Caldwell-Pope, and then 6'7" Christian Braun and 6'4" Bruce Brown coming off the bench. No matter what configuration they use, there's never a time when opponents have an obvious mismatch to attack. I think Atlanta's dooming themselves to failure, thinking an undersized no defense high usage rate PG who shoots in the mid 30s from 3 is their golden ticket to a championship. The chances of that ever happening are monumentally small. I feel like when a certain player has a distinct advantage on the court, the team should try their best to amplify that advantage, rather than use it as a crutch. Utah did this with Gobert-- he was their "defensive guy," and then they put him on the court with 3 or 4 others who were undersized for their positions: Conley at 6'1', Mitchell at 6'2', Royce O'Neale at 6'4", etc... I hope the Spurs don't make the same mistake going forward with Wembanyama, thinking that his extreme height and length give them the freedom to worry less about the height and length they surround him with. If anything, I'd like to see them hammer the advantage with more height, especially in the back court.

[Fireball]

Trae thinks the Hawks will win the title next season … delusional

[buttsR4rebounding]

Trae thinks the Hawks will win the title next season … delusional

They must be getting a hell of a return for trading him…

[rjv]

There was a great article on The Athletic website this week about Denver GM Calvin Booth and his obsession with positional size paired with skill, and I think that concept comes into play with Atlanta. The Hawks saw that Trae was a massive defensive liability, so they thought adding a defensive minded guard in the back court could help, but the issue is still positional size. Dejounte at 6'5" has great height and length for a PG, but once he's swung over to SG, he's just an average sized guy for that spot, and he's playing next to an undersized PG. If you had something like DJ as a 6'5" PG and, say, a Herb Jones type at SG, that would be a different story. Look at Denver, with a 6'4" Murray paired with a 6'5" Caldwell-Pope, and then 6'7" Christian Braun and 6'4" Bruce Brown coming off the bench. No matter what configuration they use, there's never a time when opponents have an obvious mismatch to attack. I think Atlanta's dooming themselves to failure, thinking an undersized no defense high usage rate PG who shoots in the mid 30s from 3 is their golden ticket to a championship. The chances of that ever happening are monumentally small. I feel like when a certain player has a distinct advantage on the court, the team should try their best to amplify that advantage, rather than use it as a crutch. Utah did this with Gobert-- he was their "defensive guy," and then they put him on the court with 3 or 4 others who were undersized for their positions: Conley at 6'1', Mitchell at 6'2', Royce O'Neale at 6'4", etc... I hope the Spurs don't make the same mistake going forward with Wembanyama, thinking that his extreme height and length give them the freedom to worry less about the height and length they surround him with. If anything, I'd like to see them hammer the advantage with more height, especially in the back court.

i think you just spelled out, inadvertently perhaps, the problem that scoot presents for whoever drafts him.

[John B]

I think the Hawks are better off moving Trae and rolling with DJM recouping some of those picks inbtge process. Both are divas, but DJM actually plays defense while also able to facilitate. But I’m even better if they don’t and start cashing those FRP’s

[exstatic]

I think the Hawks are better off moving Trae and rolling with DJM recouping some of those picks inbtge process. Both are divas, but DJM actually plays defense while also able to facilitate. But I’m even better if they don’t and start cashing those FRP’s

I agree, but as some have stated, a lot of teams have caught on that he’s a bad player to build around, and interest is low.

[Chinook]

Murray's problem is that he doesn't want to be a role-player. The Hawks acquired him hoping he'd be their Draymond Green, but he wanted to be their Klay Thompson if not Steph Curry. If he came in trying to play defense and facilitate, I think ATL would've been more successful. But DJM wants a max and knows he'll need to score to get it. So fuck playing winning ball. Yes, Young had a bad season and was arguably worse on offense than Murray for stretches last year. But Atlanta's narrow window to make noise relies on both players filling their roles. If they could count on that, then they could theoretically try to make a final all-in move to get that third star to make a run. They still want to overpay role-players to do fundamental shit like defend for them, and that's not going to win anything. They need a two-way guy firmly within the Murray tier to have any chance, preferably at the forward spot. MAYBE Siakam could be that guy? He's not really a great defender, but he would help their chances out immensely.

[Sugus]

Got to explain to a retard like you how luka and trae are the same player which is why they have accomplished the same thing on different teams. Because you know...you're a retard.

:lmao accusing others of being retards while using team success as a measurement stick of individual players' talents and ability :lmao

Pot, kettle. I'm siding with LeBowen on this - there's no way you're not trolling. The fuck are you hype-trolling the fucking Haws for, dude?! There's so much better alternatives that would be more fun to you - and make you look like less of an absolute retard in the process... Puzzling tbh.

[scott]

Just about every single mock I've seen has ATL taking a PG at 15. That seems... interesting.

[mo7888]

Just about every single mock I've seen has ATL taking a PG at 15. That seems... interesting.

I see NSJ in a few mocks to them. If they're going to do that, moving Trae for Kat makes more sense than trading DJ.

[CGD]

I see NSJ in a few mocks to them. If they're going to do that, moving Trae for Kat makes more sense than trading DJ.

Have these mocks started factoring fit or just BPA?

[mo7888]

Have these mocks started factoring fit or just BPA?

Its hard to say... I think most of them just pull it out of their ass..

[spurraider21]

wow. good on him. team friendly deal

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[BatManu20]

Dejounte fleeced tbh.

[scott]

DJ re-upping for 4/120 kinda puts water on the notion that he was going to want the Max. It's more a matter that DJ just didn't allow us to fully tank and go for Wemby.

[Leetonidas]

:lol getting paid less than Fred VanVleet

[Chinook]

It's also possible that the new CBA gave room for him to get just enough to make this worthwhile. I like the Hawks committing to him. He's a far better piece to build around than Youne. Trae should be getting way less so the team can bring in a third star like Siakam.

[objective]

Klutch just wrecked Dejounte. He would have been the #1 free agent point guard in 2024.

[JPB]

:lol getting paid less than Fred VanVleet

He'll stay ouf of social media next time.

[spurraider21]

Dejounte fleeced tbh.
voluntarily taking a discount =/= getting fleeced imo

[spurraider21]

also this devalues our picks coming from Atlanta. murray provides a worthwhile floor

[lefty20]

also this devalues our picks coming from Atlanta. murray provides a worthwhile floor

True. But, it's worth noting that NBA stars are fickle af these days. Signing a contract don't mean he won't end up outta there in a year or two.

[objective]

also this devalues our picks coming from Atlanta. murray provides a worthwhile floor

Good point.

They'll have Hunter, Murray, Bogdanovich through 2027 and Trae haw the player option there also

Those picks value has been blown up some

[Mr. Body]

That's Tyler Herro money.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Interesting. Dejounte probably could have commanded more in 2024. That would have been his big payday contract. This new one ends and he'll already be in his 30s.


But good for him and for the Hawks. Puts them in a good position having a guard with all-star potential locked up at $30MM per year.

[RC_Drunkford]

weird, cause last time I checked it was said he didn't want to stay there. Also quite a good deal for the Hawks, no overpay.

[BatManu20]

I’m hoping the hawks implode in the next couple seasons after they inevitably fail to make any noise in the playoffs tbh. For the sake of our picks.

[Mugen]

Good for Dejounte tbh.

[poopbox]

For 30 million you can make the argument we should have kept him...

[Mr. Body]

Interesting. Dejounte probably could have commanded more in 2024. That would have been his big payday contract. This new one ends and he'll already be in his 30s.


But good for him and for the Hawks. Puts them in a good position having a guard with all-star potential locked up at $30MM per year.

I think we're seeing the end of big free agency.

[Mugen]

For 30 million you can make the argument we should have kept him...

Absolutely not. With Dejounte on the team last year, the Spurs are probably picking in the 6-10 range again and we don't have Wemby.

[lefty20]

For 30 million you can make the argument we should have kept him...

So you would prefer DJ over Wemby. Bold choice cotton...

[spurraider21]

I’m hoping the hawks implode in the next couple seasons after they inevitably fail to make any noise in the playoffs tbh. For the sake of our picks.
murray signing this extension makes that less likely tbh

[Mugen]

I think we're seeing the end of big free agency.

Maybe. But we also just saw Fred VanVleet get 40mil+ a year :lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

For 30 million you can make the argument we should have kept him...

Keeping Dejounte on a team friendly deal vs. drafting a franchise altering player in Wemby? I'm going to have to disagree on that one.

[Mugen]

The fit with Trae is still iffy tbh. Hiring Snyder last year will have probably a bigger negative impact on the quality of those unprotected picks than Dejounte sticking around IMO.

[Mr. Body]

Maybe. But we also just saw Fred VanVleet get 40mil+ a year :lol

Well, Houston no longer has that money to spend on dejounte.

[DAF86]

It's also possible that the new CBA gave room for him to get just enough to make this worthwhile. I like the Hawks committing to him. He's a far better piece to build around than Youne. Trae should be getting way less so the team can bring in a third star like Siakam.

The fuck is Siakam gonna add to that core other than eternal mediocrity? :lol

Hawks are in a shitty ass place, tbh. I would say blow it up but they gave away their picks. This is testament as to how bad management sets you back for years and it all started when trading down instead of taking Luka for themselves. :lol

[R. DeMurre]

Young is such a flawed star-- smallish guard who can't defend and shoots lots of threes at a below average percentage. Once you take Dejounte and move him to SG, you negate his natural size advantage at PG, lessening his defensive presence... seems like such an exercise in futility to max out Trae in hopes of someday winning a championship. The odds against that happening are astronomical.

[spurraider21]

The fuck is Siakam gonna add to that core other than eternal mediocrity? :lol

Hawks are in a shitty ass place, tbh. I would say blow it up but they gave away their picks. This is testament as to how bad management sets you back for years and it all started when trading down instead of taking Luka for themselves. :lol
they should send Trae to Toronto tbh. pair OG with DeJounte in the backcourt. match made in heaven on both ends. and they could probably rip additional assets from toronto while they're at it.

[PhantomDashCam]

Young is such a flawed star-- smallish guard who can't defend and shoots lots of threes at a below average percentage. Once you take Dejounte and move him to SG, you negate his natural size advantage at PG, lessening his defensive presence... seems like such an exercise in futility to max out Trae in hopes of someday winning a championship. The odds against that happening are astronomical.

Great points although I wonder whether championship is the ultimate goal for ATL.

Tony Ressler

Principal Owner & Chair of the Board of Directors


https://cdn.nba.com/teams/static/hawks/images/uploads_legacy/tony-ressler-headshot-1.jpg

Tony Ressler led the group that acquired the Atlanta Hawks Basketball Club in June 2015, and he serves as the Club's Principal Owner and Chair.
Ressler is Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Ares Management L.P., a publicly traded, leading global alternative asset management firm with assets under management with more than $100 billion as of the start of the regular season. Ares operates three investment groups that invest in credit, private equity, and real estate. Ares has more than 900 employees with offices in Atlanta in addition to its headquarters in Los Angeles and other offices in New York, Chicago, Dallas, London, Paris, Frankfurt, Stockholm and Shanghai. Ares Management's current portfolio includes investments in several Atlanta area-based businesses including Floor & Décor Outlets of America, Inc., Serta Simmons Bedding, and Insight Global.

"Credit, Private Equity and Real Estate..."

Just missing the "Used Car Salesman" for the connect four of stereotypes :lol

[scott]

Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.

[spurraider21]

Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.
how would it make him less tradeable?

[Chinook]

Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.

Less. He literally can't be traded until January at this point. After that, it allows him to still be tradeable rather than having expired. So maybe more eventually?

[mo7888]

Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.

I'm sure we could get him back for Charlotte's pick...a couple unprotected first and a pick swap lol

[Extra Stout]

Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.
You don’t dare trade a player after he signs a team-friendly or no one will ever want to play for you ever again.

[scott]

Less. He literally can't be traded until January at this point. After that, it allows him to still be tradeable rather than having expired. So maybe more eventually?

Yeah, I was thinking more long-term rather than for an immediate trade. I do think being locked up to what I would consider a slightly below market deal increases his trade value to the Hawks

[scott]

how would it make him less tradeable?

If a team perceived his contract being an overpay, it would make him less tradeable. For example, if Tyler Herro were on a 4/56 deal, he would be significantly more tradeable than on his 4/120 deal.

[spurraider21]

If a team perceived his contract being an overpay, it would make him less tradeable. For example, if Tyler Herro were on a 4/56 deal, he would be significantly more tradeable than on his 4/120 deal.
dont think anybody will see murray's deal is an overpay. its a bargain. he signed this specifically to be team friendly

[mystargtr34]

murray signing this extension makes that less likely tbh

Agree with your statement but the good part for the Spurs is that there’s still a lot of time between now and those picks conveying.

2025, 2026 (swap), 2027 are the picks.

Still have 23-24 season. If the Hawks flame out in the playin again then Tre may be in a Dame Lillard type situation this time bext year.

Then there’s the 24-25 season which is the first season that impacts those picks. Then another two seasons after that for things to go south for the Hawks.

[KingKev]

Ya’ll talk shit about DJ but he took money off the table to be there. That being said that is mostly a fair contract for both sides.

[Cabrito]

Just because he took 4/$120 million in the ATL, it doesn’t mean he would have taken that in SA. In fact, I would argue that he would have wanted the max in SA had he been here.

[Obstructed_View]

Just because he took 4/$120 million in the ATL, it doesn’t mean he would have taken that in SA. In fact, I would argue that he would have wanted the max in SA had he been here.
If any NBA player reads Spurstalk, it's Dejounte Murray.

Hi, Dejounte.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Just because he took 4/$120 million in the ATL, it doesn’t mean he would have taken that in SA. In fact, I would argue that he would have wanted the max in SA had he been here.

It's more complicated than that though. He couldn't have extended while he was on the Spurs because under the old CBA the max extension would have been at 120% of his last year's salary. If he ever wanted a max he would have had to wait until 2025 and becoming a FA. Now, with the new CBA allowing an extension starting from 140% it was more doable and he got that. Good for him, but it's not comparable to his options while he was a Spurs player.

[Fireball]

good move for Atlanta ... now get rid of that useless midget Tre Young

[vander]

Absolutely not. With Dejounte on the team last year, the Spurs are probably picking in the 6-10 range again and we don't have Wemby.

So you would prefer DJ over Wemby. Bold choice cotton...

it was a lottery, 14% chance
sad to see people already talking like this was just the genius plan all along,

why didn't any of the other teams simply get the third worst record and draft Wemby?

[couchman]

New CBA made this possible.
Seems like a fair deal that was impossible under old CBA.
It’s also possible that being the clear #2 guy on a team (and not repeating as an All-Star) helped DJM gain some perspective.

[DPG21920]

Either way I’m genuinely happy for Dejounte. He was not greedy, took generational money now and can sleep well with no concerns about injuries (which he’s had) or performance.

What’s a story! 29th pick in San Antonio to well over 120M (including his current deal). Just amazing

[spurraider21]

Honestly I’m salty about it tbh :lol

always liked Murray. Trading him obviously made sense and panned out in the best way imaginable. But seeing a player i liked make team friendly moves like this stings. And hurts those draft picks we’re getting from them

[poopbox]

Absolutely not. With Dejounte on the team last year, the Spurs are probably picking in the 6-10 range again and we don't have Wemby.

Could have just strategically sit him or not played him in the 4th etc...

We didn't even have the worst record in the league last year...

[Dverde]

This team feels a lot looser without DJ last year. He was a good mentor, but I think it’s best for everyone he moved on to a “contender”.

[south side spur]

Great news for Murray but let’s slow down with all this devaluing draft picks talk. All the Murray advocates are forgetting the reality. The Hawks were a .500 team. All that “he’s going to make them one of the top teams in the East” talk before last season was total BS.

So what is Atlanta’s floor? Was it this season? Who knows, they just lost a contributor to the rotation so it’s not out of the realm of possibilities to say the Hawks might actually be worse. A lottery team. Atlanta will not be a top team in the East (AGAIN) they’re not Milwaukee, they’re not Boston, they’re not Philadelphia and they’re not Cleveland.

So Atlanta’s ceiling is the 5th seed? And that is a hell of a stretch that only Murray advocates can make. The Hawks are competing with New York, Brooklyn, Miami, Toronto and Chicago. Indiana is much improved and always hanging around .500 while everyone’s dark horse Orlando is on the rise. To say that the Spurs could get 2 lottery picks out of this trade is not some Homer pipe dream.

[scott]

DJM back to shitting on his former team and their fans :lol

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[couchman]

DJM’s defense fell off before he left for Atlanta, which made it all the more absurd when they traded for him in hopes he would cover for Trae’s D ficiencies.

[BatManu20]

This dude really can't help himself when it comes to his socials :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Still has the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old girl.

He's lucky he has basketball talent.

[TheChillFactor]

"he uses all his energy on the Shift key so he has none left to play defense" lmao saw this on reddit

[John B]

:pop: He’s not over himself

[Obstructed_View]

What did he do?

[Chinook]

DJM’s defense fell off before he left for Atlanta, which made it all the more absurd when they traded for him in hopes he would cover for Trae’s D ficiencies.

Since we're all in a 2010s state of mind, yeah. Got an undeserved All-D selection over Danny Green in 2018. He was the beneficiary of the great D Green, Anderson, Aldridge and Gasol provided. As soon as Pop got rid of Danny and Kyle, that defense fell back down to Earth. That doesn't mean he was horrible on that end, but he wasn't the straw that stirred the drink. The last thing he needed was to be put in a situation where he was expected to carry a defense.

[timtonymanu]

People get so defensive when I talk about Murray but dudes a fricking diva lol. Of course I still prefer having white over him.

[Dverde]

Gotta hurt that D White is a NBA champion and Olympian while he just got traded to the Pelicants.