If the Spurs draft 11th

[Sugus]

Its bad. Tyler Bey’s is hideous.

Absolutely. I was just watching his video on the same post... This is the guy everyone's saying will be a marksman in the NBA? His off-hand motion don't look right. I know the saying is "as long as it goes in..." but god damn, that's not something I'd like in a prospect whose main attribute is his shooting. Pass.

[exstatic]

Man, I like Halliburton's game, but his shooting form is just ugly. I don't trust him.

It’s ugly, but his range is Curry like. If you go to block it, he will go by you, and have 5 on 4.

[rankingtear]

Update from Hawks Insider NBASupes


Deni is a lean at 4 with Chicago as well but if he's gone look at Hayes who is also a lean for Chicago. If both are gone, look for Chicago to considering trading down. No one knows what Charlotte will do.
Cleveland is a Edwards lean and if he's gone Okoro
Atlanta is an Okoro lean, then Deni, then Obi, then Smith or Okongwu
Detroit is a Haliburton heavy lean. If you want him, you have to move up. Obi is also a lean if Hali is gone.
New York likes a lot of guys so no leans but I heard 27 and 8 is on the market if it can get them Ball or Edwards.
Okongwu is a major lean for Washington, Jalen Smith is a lean. They aren't thinking Wiseman will be here but if he is, I am not sure he can jump Okongwu.
After that, it's the wild wild west. Trade downs and move up bonanza since the cost won't be anywhere near as crazy. I do think if Okongwu or Wiseman falls to 10, Boston will try to move up to 10.
Cost is literally the biggest hindrance is what he gave me on this recent call. They keep repeating, Minnesota wants too much.

[Dejounte]

How reliable is this guy first of all? What is his track record? Because it seems like it's easy to make it all up.

[PhantomDashCam]

Man, I like Halliburton's game, but his shooting form is just ugly. I don't trust him.

Haliburton has everything you would want in a PG in today’s NBA... except two (at least to yet consistently prove), of the most important attributes needed to have consistent success.
1. Ability to get by your initial defender - unabated
2. Shoot off the dribble
I’m much higher on Kira for these reasons even though Halliburton’s game, IQ appears more well rounded. I also wonder about his humility as I think he genuinely believes he has already arrived.

[ginobilized]

I'd love to see the Spurs nab Haliburton, Hayes or Deni. Highly doubtful.
It does seem quite plausible that Williams, Precious, Vassell, Nesmith and maybe even Wiseman, Obi or Smith are around.
Seems hard to mess that up if so. Spurs have done a very solid job on the due dilligence in knowing the character of their picks.

Detroit, Atlanta and Chicago seem like the best bets for a trade. I'm throwing out a crazy idea. Lamarcus to GS for their pick. They will need more muscle and interior help to stop the Lakers from repeating. We need a great, young prospect.

[J_Paco]

https://twitter.com/swishcultures_/status/1305549749630701570

https://twitter.com/rodgerbohn/status/1311838088889540608

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1311739221279866881

Nanji would be a good prospect at center to snag, if the Spurs can get a 2nd first-round pick, or if he falls to the second-round.

Bey is an athletic prospect similar to Brandon Clarke last year. He'd be a solid option in the second round too.

[J_Paco]

Absolutely. I was just watching his video on the same post... This is the guy everyone's saying will be a marksman in the NBA? His off-hand motion don't look right. I know the saying is "as long as it goes in..." but god damn, that's not something I'd like in a prospect whose main attribute is his shooting. Pass.

You're probably confusing Tyler (Colorado) with Saddiq Bey (Villanova).

Tyler is an athletic, undersized power forward, while Saddiq is a taller, big, Wesley Matthews - esque SF prospect.

[spurspl]

I'd love to see the Spurs nab Haliburton, Hayes or Deni. Highly doubtful.
It does seem quite plausible that Williams, Precious, Vassell, Nesmith and maybe even Wiseman, Obi or Smith are around.
Seems hard to mess that up if so. Spurs have done a very solid job on the due dilligence in knowing the character of their picks.

Detroit, Atlanta and Chicago seem like the best bets for a trade. I'm throwing out a crazy idea. Lamarcus to GS for their pick. They will need more muscle and interior help to stop the Lakers from repeating. We need a great, young prospect.

how do u know that spurs done a solid due dilligence? any report or leaks u can read somewhere on network?

[ginobilized]

how do u know that spurs done a solid due dilligence? any report or leaks u can read somewhere on network?

I have zero insider info, just seems like they draft a person as much as a player. That’s been their approach for the 22 yrs I’ve been following them. Small market teams have a much smaller margin for error. Just the musings of a Spurs fan in Austin.

[spurspl]

I have zero insider info, just seems like they draft a person as much as a player. That’s been their approach for the 22 yrs I’ve been following them. Small market teams have a much smaller margin for error. Just the musings of a Spurs fan in Austin.

oh ok, i though u have some infos. But agree that spurs always look really closely to character and personality

[BackHome]

I'd love to see the Spurs nab Haliburton, Hayes or Deni. Highly doubtful.
It does seem quite plausible that Williams, Precious, Vassell, Nesmith and maybe even Wiseman, Obi or Smith are around.
Seems hard to mess that up if so. Spurs have done a very solid job on the due dilligence in knowing the character of their picks.

Detroit, Atlanta and Chicago seem like the best bets for a trade. I'm throwing out a crazy idea. Lamarcus to GS for their pick. They will need more muscle and interior help to stop the Lakers from repeating. We need a great, young prospect.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing anyone who wants a ring has to have an answer for Lebron and Davis but I was not so greedy I was thinking of the Heat and picking up there draft pick.

[rankingtear]

How reliable is this guy first of all? What is his track record? Because it seems like it's easy to make it all up.

He did have this info before last years draft


Posted June 21, 2019 (https://www.hawksquawk.net/topic/429794-official-2019-draft-thread/?do=findComment&comment=967530)

Had a short chat with my guy. He only had a minute but said Atlanta has being ultra aggressive to get their goal of two top 8 picks.
I asked about a deal between CLE/ATL and he said they spoke but neither seem to be on the same page. CLE wants #8 and ATL wants two top 8 picks. Both have made counter deals to better favor the other but neither seem to address the others want. ATL did finally open to making 8 available but they wanted next year's 2020 to be top 4 protected and that CLE had little interest in it.
Said Atlanta is being very aggressive and really wants two top 8 picks.



Didn't have much time to talk but he mention this is the most interested he has seen teams ready to make a deal. I asked if Atlanta moved up, who is their guy. He said DeAndre Hunter. LP and Travis loved him and they want Cam Reddish who Travis loves as well as Trae Young is advocating for. Hawks see Hunter as a true forward and someone who can help you win games. They want two wings. That's the goal and it's been the goal.

In terms of spurs :

- His source said Spurs would take Keldon at 19
- Demar for JR Smith + picks last offseason to sign Bojan Bogdanovic fell through
- Poetl to Atlanta deal fell through, ATL offered OKC protected 2022 first but SAS wanted BKL 2020 first.

[Dejounte]

He did have this info before last years draft



In terms of spurs :

- His source said Spurs would take Keldon at 19
- Demar for JR Smith + picks last offseason to sign Bojan Bogdanovic fell through
- Poetl to Atlanta deal fell through, ATL offered OKC protected 2022 first but SAS wanted BKL 2020 first.

How close to the draft did he get that info? I think information changes a lot when dealing with draft rumors.

[Chinook]

It’s ugly, but his range is Curry like. If you go to block it, he will go by you, and have 5 on 4.

Eh he has Jimmer range, not Curry range. Even though he's farther back, his release means he has to commit to shooting faster than a normal shooter would. To put it another way, he could very easily struggle from the corners because he can't back up enough to give himself time to shoot. Haliburton is supposed to be a high-IQ player, so I think he'll just refrain from taking those shots if they aren't open rather than miss the contested jumpers. That kind of tracks with Jimmer who shot well from the corners (45 percent for his career and 52 percent in his first three year) but only took 1/8 shots from that range, which is absurdly low for a floor-spacer.

It's going to be interesting to see how his game develops in the context of his shooting motion. The standard motion is such for a reason. I don't see it being worth it to try to change his mechanics too much, but if he has to live with what he has, it gives him a lower floor than a lot of people are expecting.

[Sugus]

Haliburton has everything you would want in a PG in today’s NBA... except two (at least to yet consistently prove), of the most important attributes needed to have consistent success.
1. Ability to get by your initial defender - unabated
2. Shoot off the dribble
I’m much higher on Kira for these reasons even though Halliburton’s game, IQ appears more well rounded. I also wonder about his humility as I think he genuinely believes he has already arrived.

Tbh, I'd still choose Halliburton, just because I'm tired of low-IQ players on our team. Not saying Kira won't be good, but still. The humility thing is real, but I think a little "swagger" and confidence is great to have in a player - if they have the tools, that drive will keep him working on his game. But if you're like Dejounte and acting like a star while playing like a role-player... Yeah, that ain't gonna fly.

[Sugus]

You're probably confusing Tyler (Colorado) with Saddiq Bey (Villanova).

Tyler is an athletic, undersized power forward, while Saddiq is a taller, big, Wesley Matthews - esque SF prospect.

This was the case lol, I misread. Confusing to have two prospects surnamed the same...

[Dejounte]

I could really see the Celts trading up with two of their FRPs for Suns' 10th pick to draft Jalen Smith.... I hope not.

[XDT76]

I could really see the Celts trading up with two of their FRPs for Suns' 10th pick to draft Jalen Smith.... I hope not.
It is rumoured that Suns wanted to draft Smith themselves so which ever way it seems bad news for the Spurs if they also wanted Smith

[Dejounte]

It is rumoured that Suns wanted to draft Smith themselves so which ever way it seems bad news for the Spurs if they also wanted Smith

There's a lot of smoke for the Suns to draft Tyrell Terry, too. I think drafting a PG makes more sense for them right now.

[ZeusWillJudge]

There's a lot of smoke for the Suns to draft Tyrell Terry, too. I think drafting a PG makes more sense for them right now.


Heh. I was just here to ask WTF. Suddenly people are acting like Terry is one of the best players in the draft. He supposedly put on 20 lbs. since the end of the season. I've seen more than one report saying that he's the best pure shooter in this draft class, etc. I watched Stanford several times this season, and I was on the lookout for PG's. Personally, I think he's Bryn Forbes II. He's a good shooter, but he's 6'1", not especially athletic, not an especially good distributor. He's got a weak handle and coughs the ball up a lot. Stanford had a poor record, in a weak conference. I think he's another totally undersized 2 guard masquerading as a "combo guard".

The last couple of seasons I've tried to figure out how some of these guys suddenly blow up on social media. Just a couple of weeks ago he was supposedly going near the end of the first round, and I wondered if that wasn't high. Suddenly they're talking about him in the top 10? There are a bunch of articles and blurbs about him all of a sudden - here's one: https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/01/nba-mock-draft-lamelo-ball-goes-no-1-tyrell-terry-rises-up-the-board/

Honestly, I hope they're right because it will push someone else down the board.

[pad300]

I could really see the Celts trading up with two of their FRPs for Suns' 10th pick to draft Jalen Smith.... I hope not.

I've been quietly hoping we're offering them a deal like #14 and #26 for #11...

[pad300]

...

The last couple of seasons I've tried to figure out how some of these guys suddenly blow up on social media. ..

I strongly suspect the answer involves agents and money...

[PhantomDashCam]

Heh. I was just here to ask WTF. Suddenly people are acting like Terry is one of the best players in the draft. He supposedly put on 20 lbs. since the end of the season. I've seen more than one report saying that he's the best pure shooter in this draft class, etc. I watched Stanford several times this season, and I was on the lookout for PG's. Personally, I think he's Bryn Forbes II. He's a good shooter, but he's 6'1", not especially athletic, not an especially good distributor. He's got a weak handle and coughs the ball up a lot. Stanford had a poor record, in a weak conference. I think he's another totally undersized 2 guard masquerading as a "combo guard".

The last couple of seasons I've tried to figure out how some of these guys suddenly blow up on social media. Just a couple of weeks ago he was supposedly going near the end of the first round, and I wondered if that wasn't high. Suddenly they're talking about him in the top 10? There are a bunch of articles and blurbs about him all of a sudden - here's one: https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/01/nba-mock-draft-lamelo-ball-goes-no-1-tyrell-terry-rises-up-the-board/

Honestly, I hope they're right because it will push someone else down the board.

This draft does feel different though in comparison to years past. Usually after a college season, a prospect has what, a 2 month window at best to prepare, show scouts etc. what they “may” be getting based on all other information accrued through their basketball career to that point.

This year, they have had a 6-7 month time frame, almost another full season of development and maturation, for which prospects aged 18-20 yrs old is invaluable - (if used effectively).
I honestly think that is why a guy like Terry is on the rise and can see him being a lottery pick in today’s NBA.

[BackHome]

Yeah also every year depending on college finals guys can move up or down in the draft pretty dramatically but with hardly any college ball played no such moments.

[Dejounte]

Yeah also every year depending on college finals guys can move up or down in the draft pretty dramatically but with hardly any college ball played no such moments.

This is to the Spurs advantage.

Which organization is the best at projecting talent? The Spurs.

[TD 21]

If this Wiseman and Okwungu talk is true, I doubt the former falls to 7, but the latter should be available. Either way, they could attempt . . .

To Pistons: 11, 20

To Heat: Aldridge

To Spurs: 7, Olynyk

Obviously, offer that to the Hawks at 6 first, but I doubt they'd be as inclined.

[tbdog]

Isn't Terry 6'1? I don't think small guards work anymore.

[EasyMoney]

Even though I think they should draft a sizeable wing. It would be comforting to have a true PG on the court at all times...

[PhantomDashCam]

Isn't Terry 6'1? I don't think small guards work anymore.

Beyond Athlete Management (@beyond_am) Tweeted:
When Tyrell Terry arrived at Stanford one year ago, he was 6'1" and 155 lbs. He set the Pac-12 on fire with a terrific freshman season. Now, standing 6'3" and 174 lbs, he's ready for the NBA. @tyterry05 #nbadraft https://t.co/48BZD27fmR

https://twitter.com/beyond_am/status/1309893843865792514?s=20

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1313164695126249472?s=19

Not sure if this guy has any credible intel, but Stewart at 11? Hmmm...

[EasyMoney]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1313164695126249472?s=19

Not sure if this guy has any credible intel, but Stewart at 11? Hmmm...


He is not even a lottery pick. He isn't even a guaranteed 1st round pick.

[Dejounte]

He is not even a lottery pick. He isn't even a guaranteed 1st round pick.

Based on what? Like I said countless times, players rise and players fall... We are more than a month away from the draft. Isaiah dominated the top big men in the draft whenever he played against them.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/e_jCEnPRAz0

Stewart is a force inside, sees double teams because he's unusually strong and has a soft touch around the rim. Has somewhat of a shooting touch, probably projects to be a standstill shooter as opposed to one being on the move.

[SpursDynasty85]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1313164695126249472?s=19

Not sure if this guy has any credible intel, but Stewart at 11? Hmmm...

Isn't Halliburton at 14 a little unbelievable too?

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1313164695126249472?s=19

Not sure if this guy has any credible intel, but Stewart at 11? Hmmm...

Thanks Dejounte for posting. Fran Fraschilla (who I really respect for his basketball insights) is heavily involved with that site. I’m not sure if they have intel or not about actual selection/s, just know that this is how they rank their prospects based on their big board. It’s like we hear about the Spurs - they have their rankings of players and don’t care what other mocks/people say.

Two notable risers on their board: Elijah Hughes and Jay Scrubb.

[BackHome]

Yeah I like both those guys hope one of them Falls in our lap for second round pick.

I am starting to think Poku and Kira might just both land in the top 10 which is really going to make things interesting for our 11th pick.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Absolutely. I was just watching his video on the same post... This is the guy everyone's saying will be a marksman in the NBA? His off-hand motion don't look right. I know the saying is "as long as it goes in..." but god damn, that's not something I'd like in a prospect whose main attribute is his shooting. Pass.

Saddiq Bey from Villanova is the guy who I think you are confusing folks liking a lot for his good 3 point shooting in the NCAA.

Saddiq is the guy a lot of folks on here like not Tyler.

[Sugus]

Saddiq Bey from Villanova is the guy who I think you are confusing folks liking a lot for his good 3 point shooting in the NCAA.

Saddiq is the guy a lot of folks on here like not Tyler.

Yeah, I got them mixed up lmao. Whichever Bey is on that video, I don't want none of that...

[The Truth #6]

In that video, does it look like Stewart has barely any vertical? If so, I’m curious if those moves translate to the NBA. I’m still getting familiar with him.

[Dejounte]

In that video, does it look like Stewart has barely any vertical? If so, I’m curious if those moves translate to the NBA. I’m still getting familiar with him.

That was a random video I found. I suggest searching "Washington basketball college full game" or this video:


https://youtu.be/u2fA5-Em8Mc

So you can observe his missed shots also.

He indeed doesn't have much vertical (at least in-game). Not sure if it's due to tendency or just doesn't have the hops. I read somewhere he had 40 dunks this year, Toppin had 120 for comparison.

He reminds me of a bigger, stronger, and longer (7'4" wingspan) Dejuan Blair, *offensively speaking only*, near the rim.

[Dejounte]

He's quick when he goes up, which makes me think it'll translate. We'll see.

[Dejounte]

My issue with Isaiah is that he's a blackhole on offense or a "give me the ball and get out of the way" type player similar to LaMarcus Aldridge. So say good-bye to the idea of having "The Beautiful Game" on the Spurs if we draft him. This is all assuming he 1) doesn't develop a passing game and 2) he's actually dominant enough to be given the ball like that. He doesn't do much moving around on offense, in college at least.

[BackHome]

Yeah he is a hard pass for me at once he gets the ball it's Derozz or LMA time and if he catches it from outside he has one move - Fake the shot and then shoot it.

[Degoat]

From a fan standpoint, I’d really like one of Jalen Smith, Precious, Devin Vassel, or Patrick Williams.. I would love if we traded up for one of the higher guys but if we were to end up with somebody that I didn’t mention I’d still be happy as long as it’s not that euro big Poku, I can’t take anymore euro projects

[alpha_HaZE]

Well, most mock drafts have us taking Patrick Williams at 11 (6 of them) second only to who is going number one. According to NBA.COM

I wouldn't mind him. And I would love if the Spurs were to trade for a second 10-20 pick in this draft!

[duncan2k5]

I want Topping if he falls to 11

[ginobilized]

Isaiah Stewart has game similar to Zach Randolph, to my eyes. Not sure how that translates to today's NBA.
Doubt the Spurs go with him.

Deni is the player that I'd want for the Spurs. After that, it's such a crap shoot. Williams, Vassell, Nesmith, Wiseman, Toppin, Lewis or Hayes should be available. It will be interesting who they pick this year and if they make some moves.

Only 40 days to go......

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/iqyqFAkKGCY

Did a little research into Isiah Stewart...

Certainly sounds like a Spurs guy, or what the Spurs would want them to be.
He’s only 19.5, actively involved with his community - especially on Civil Rights issues and has a hunger to be one of the best.
Very coachable and willing to work on his short comings - cites specifically passing and reads out of the P/nR.

Watch the last two mins of this vid if get the chance.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/iqyqFAkKGCY

Did a little research into Isiah Stewart...

Certainly sounds like a Spurs guy, or what the Spurs would want them to be.
He’s only 19.5, actively involved with his community - especially on Civil Rights issues and has a hunger to be one of the best.
Very coachable and willing to work on his short comings - cites specifically passing and reads out of the P/nR.

Watch the last two mins of this vid if get the chance.

Greeted DJ Murray happy birthday on IG and both DJ and Keldon follow him on there. Probably the only prospect with any current Spur following him.

[bluebellmaniac]

38 days til the draft.

[R. DeMurre]

38 days til the draft.


November is going to be a crazy month.

[B1gduff]

There's two ways this team can go,
1. We can go and take a chance/risk with the high upside pick, even if it take 2 to 3 yers of development.
2. Looking at these playoffs and even our entire season, we need size, escpially at the 3- 4. So draft a guy that is atheltic, has good upside and has the abiltiy to play small ball 5

[bluebellmaniac]

There's two ways this team can go,
1. We can go and take a chance/risk with the high upside pick, even if it take 2 to 3 yers of development.
2. Looking at these playoffs and even our entire season, we need size, escpially at the 3- 4. So draft a guy that is atheltic, has good upside and has the abiltiy to play small ball 5


So Poku....

[The Truth #6]

Not into Isiah Stewart. He has a Michael Cage vibe all around, including the hair, but not who this team needs right now.

[ace3g]

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The NBA is allowing teams to begin conducting in-person meetings (medical evaluation, workout) with 2020 Draft prospects from Oct. 16-Nov. 16, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA (https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/) @Stadium (https://twitter.com/Stadium/). Teams receiving up to two visits per player; no more than 10 total among prospects.
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[Chinook]

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The NBA is allowing teams to begin conducting in-person meetings (medical evaluation, workout) with 2020 Draft prospects from Oct. 16-Nov. 16, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA (https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/) @Stadium (https://twitter.com/Stadium/). Teams receiving up to two visits per player; no more than 10 total among prospects.
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Hmm... This is really good for some of the iffy prospects. I wonder if there's a limit on how many visits a player can have total. I can imagine someone like Poke is going to be very busy if he wants to be.

[Dejounte]

Devin revamped his shot

And it's fucking ugly
https://twitter.com/krystenpeek/status/1316450770447892480?s=19

[tdominate21]

So Poku....


So Samanic?

[Dejounte]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30120353/new-nba-draft-intel-trade-talk-sleepers-perfect-fits

Anyone have access to this article?

[ace3g]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30120353/new-nba-draft-intel-trade-talk-sleepers-perfect-fits

Anyone have access to this article?

8. Which prospect-team pairing do you think is a perfect fit?Givony: He might not be on the board this late, but Patrick Williams (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431687/patrick-williams) to San Antonio at No. 11 seems like a great match. Williams has an ideal build for a modern NBA forward, with impressive length, athleticism and strength. He's shown enough flashes of shot-making and defensive versatility to make you wonder what he might look like after a few years in a strong player-development situation. His creation skills and overall feel for the game leave something to be desired, but San Antonio can afford to be patient with the second-youngest player projected to be drafted.



**only part of article that mentions the Spurs.

[bluebellmaniac]

30 days until the draft!

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/alderalmo/status/1318299786244751378?s=20

Latest mock from https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/ has Spurs taking Haliburton at 11

[Russ]

Latest mock from https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/ has Spurs taking Haliburton at 11

Haliburton at #11 should make a lot of people here happy.

Two other interesting takeaways from that Nbadraft.net mock.

Avdija has moved up to #2 (ahead of Ball) and Wiseman has dropped to #9 (behind Okongwu). Avdija, Wiseman and Okongwu all look like high upside targets for the Spurs.

Avdija also has moved up to #1 in NBA Draft Room (whatever that is). In fact, Avdija is no lower that #5 in most any of the later mocks I've seen.

If you want a nice compendium of NBA mock drafts try this WalterFootball.com site:

https://walterfootball.com/nbadraftdata.php

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1318902798851911681?s=19

Let's get the ball rolling...

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1318903015139495947

[Degoat]

This is kind of a hipster hot take lol but I was watching some breakdown videos and honestly is James Wiseman really all that better then say Precious Achiwua or Jalen Smith? I’d be thrilled if we traded up for wiseman don’t get me wrong but the talent level isn’t all that different

[Chinook]

Wiseman is absurdly talented. Those players might end up being better than him, but he's clearly eye-popping when watching him.

[Dejounte]

This is kind of a hipster hot take lol but I was watching some breakdown videos and honestly is James Wiseman really all that better then say Precious Achiwua or Jalen Smith? I’d be thrilled if we traded up for wiseman don’t get me wrong but the talent level isn’t all that different

He's eye popping in a sense that he is a freak athletically... The big question is if he has the fundamentals to back it up. He's clearly better than Achiuwa when they were both on the floor...but it was only for three games. If he went toe to toe against Jalen though? Not sure. It could be a matter of Timmy D vs Shaq situation where it's a battle of brute vs elegance.

[R. DeMurre]

In the future, I'm going to remember this as the Skinny Legs Draft, because three of my favorites-- Haliburton, Jalen Smith, and Poku-- all share that physical characteristic.

[exstatic]

This is kind of a hipster hot take lol but I was watching some breakdown videos and honestly is James Wiseman really all that better then say Precious Achiwua or Jalen Smith? I’d be thrilled if we traded up for wiseman don’t get me wrong but the talent level isn’t all that different

He’s 7’1”, with a 7’6” wingspan. That’s what makes him better.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1318902798851911681?s=19

Let's get the ball rolling...

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1319076644972228608?s=19

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1319076644972228608?s=19

Btw, 38" vertical for a center is insane.

Last center who was able to leap that high was two years ago.... Bam Adebayo.

His lane agility beats everyone in the last six years... Cody Zeller was the last person.

[Dejounte]

Btw, 38" vertical for a center is insane.

Last center who was able to leap that high was two years ago.... Bam Adebayo.

His lane agility beats everyone in the last six years... Cody Zeller was the last person.

ALSO FYI

The listed measurement for Zeke BEFORE the combine was 6'11" height and 7'1" wingspan. Turns out he is 6'10" and 7'2" wingspan.

Who knows what kind of measurements those who chose not to participate have. They could be really damning for some players *cough* Vassell *cough*

[PhantomDashCam]

Give Zeke credit, seems to be firmly entrenched in 1st round now. Say what you will about lack of star power in this draft, there is going to be some serious rotation type talent falling to the 2nd round now. That 2nd round pick could have more currency than people think.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1319298796820393985

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Btw, 38" vertical for a center is insane.

Last center who was able to leap that high was two years ago.... Bam Adebayo.

His lane agility beats everyone in the last six years... Cody Zeller was the last person.


All his numbers are really good athletically. Especially when factoring in his weight.

If these numbers are official, his stock is definitely gonna rise

[ace3g]

26 days!!!

https://twitter.com/ESPNPR/status/1319324709046059009

[Prime BEEF]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1319298796820393985
Tyler Bey is going to be a solid player

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1319639784302669824

[ginobilized]

Zeke is growing on me. Great attitude, work ethic, size, physical tools and seems to be intelligent and coachable. He seems capable of developing into a unique player.
Sounds like Spurs material.

Okongwu seems pretty laid back, like he has already made it. Comparing himself to Bam rubs me the wrong way. Regardless of the similarities, he needs to forge his own identity. Talking about chilling with his family makes me wonder how much fire is in his belly.

[Dejounte]

Zeke is growing on me. Great attitude, work ethic, size, physical tools and seems to be intelligent and coachable. He seems capable of developing into a unique player.
Sounds like Spurs material.

Okongwu seems pretty laid back, like he has already made it. Comparing himself to Bam rubs me the wrong way. Regardless of the similarities, he needs to forge his own identity. Talking about chilling with his family makes me wonder how much fire is in his belly.

True. We need more competitors.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1319656030737924103?s=19

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1319650430478094337?s=19

[ginobilized]

Oturo seems pretty damn solid.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/SiRAwPBDvPg

Not my guy at 11 but undeniable shooting talent.

[Dejounte]

"They must have forgot who busted their favorite player ass every time, why people duck me and why people don’t like to play against Isaiah Stewart."

https://hoopshype.com/2020/10/23/isaiah-stewart-nba-draft-sleepers-washington-huskies/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Big words, but it's true. Stewart killed his matchups in college.

[Dejounte]

https://hoopshype.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/92/2020/10/isaiah-stewart-double-team-2.png

I've made many posts about this. A lot of people don't know it. He gets doubled teamed, triple teamed in almost all possessions. That's hard to ignore. Old school as it may be, but Stewart is the best post up big man in the draft.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/-NL6Krr1R-w

While Jalen Smith is my "Yeah he's a Spurs type player, I could see them selecting him"

Isaiah is my "OUT OF NOWHERE WTF! PICK" where it would take me a minute to process and then realize OK, I can see why.

[PhantomDashCam]

"They must have forgot who busted their favorite player ass every time, why people duck me and why people don’t like to play against Isaiah Stewart."

https://hoopshype.com/2020/10/23/isaiah-stewart-nba-draft-sleepers-washington-huskies/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Big words, but it's true. Stewart killed his matchups in college.

Love at the start of the article it states: Please note that this interview transcription was very minorly edited for clarity. :lol
Stewart sounds ticked off and disrespected.

As Stewart himself suggests, “His game may not be sexy but it’s effective.”
‘If his shooting has improved as he claims, he could start - and be amongst the league leaders in rebounds from day 1.

[Dejounte]

So how much do Spurs fans like Okoro?

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

11th and DeRozan for Okoro in KOC's mock. Doesn't specify intel, might just be his own thoughts.

Like I said recently....Okoro and Keldon mysteriously followed each other on social media for some odd reason.

[duncan2150]

https://hoopshype.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/92/2020/10/isaiah-stewart-double-team-2.png

I've made many posts about this. A lot of people don't know it. He gets doubled teamed, triple teamed in almost all possessions. That's hard to ignore. Old school as it may be, but Stewart is the best post up big man in the draft.

Stewart was the first big i liked in this draft early on the season.

Interesting to see that Carey was also double a lot of time, i'm not sure who is the better player between him and stewart. It's difficult to classify the inside guys in this draft imo except Wiseman.

the problem for Stewart imo is that he is a little bit heavy on his foot, not that explosive and that hurts him on the perimeter.

[Degoat]

So how much do Spurs fans like Okoro?

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

11th and DeRozan for Okoro in KOC's mock. Doesn't specify intel, might just be his own thoughts.

Like I said recently....Okoro and Keldon mysteriously followed each other on social media for some odd reason.

Okoro has grown on me a lot, I think he’s probably one of the safest picks in the top 10. I don’t know if he’ll be a star or anything but all he needs to do is work on his jumper a bit

[bluebellmaniac]

So how much do Spurs fans like Okoro?

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

11th and DeRozan for Okoro in KOC's mock. Doesn't specify intel, might just be his own thoughts.

Like I said recently....Okoro and Keldon mysteriously followed each other on social media for some odd reason.

Pretty sure Keldon is not the one calling the shots on our pick.

[Dejounte]

Pretty sure Keldon is not the one calling the shots on our pick.

Well, obviously... but I could see the Spurs asking Keldon to talk with Okoro to see if they have any chemistry.

[The Truth #6]

So how much do Spurs fans like Okoro?

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

11th and DeRozan for Okoro in KOC's mock. Doesn't specify intel, might just be his own thoughts.

Like I said recently....Okoro and Keldon mysteriously followed each other on social media for some odd reason.

That’s an interesting trade. I could see the spurs taking Okoro. But as fans would we rather see Halliburton or Killian? Hard to say who they would prioritize.

[PhantomDashCam]

Big believer if the Spurs trade up, they are going big. Double ‘O’ at 6, Wiseman at 2.

I know a lot of people don’t like DeRozan but to trade him- an expiring, 20+PPG contract/player and having to attach 11 too to move up 5 spots and grab a wing with serious shooting deficiencies?

[exstatic]

Big believer if the Spurs trade up, they are going big. Double ‘O’ at 6, Wiseman at 2.

I know a lot of people don’t like DeRozan but to trade him- an expiring, 20+PPG contract/player and having to attach 11 too to move up 5 spots and grab a wing with serious shooting deficiencies?

The other team would have to be a fit, somewhere he’d like to stay. No one is going to move down 5 spots for a one year rental.

[Degoat]

Can we even trade Demar before or during the draft? I thought because of the player option of him opting out this offseason it wouldnt allow him to be traded until he officially opts in

[spurspl]

not fan of okoro and using ddr plus our pick to trade up for him imo is a bad idea. at 11th we can have smith whos a better player, fill our needs and is a spurs fans. what more do u need? ddr could be traded for a late 1st this or next yr draft. id even consider a 2nd rounder if there is someone special.

[TD 21]

This was a suggesstion of the template of a trade O'Connor could see interesting both teams, not speculation.

I see Okoro as the second coming of Winslow, similar to a wing version of Murray. Difficult for these types to not be net negatives offensively.

I'd rather Vassell, Bey (back to thinking they lean towards him), Nesmith and Williams over him at 11.



Big believer if the Spurs trade up, they are going big. Double ‘O’ at 6, Wiseman at 2.

I know a lot of people don’t like DeRozan but to trade him- an expiring, 20+PPG contract/player and having to attach 11 too to move up 5 spots and grab a wing with serious shooting deficiencies?

:tu

[rankingtear]

1321437299931009024

With Kira getting looks in the top 10 I think there's a chance Killian Hayes drop to us. The only guard interviewed by the Spurs.

[Degoat]

I do think the top 10 could be really PG heavy between Ball, Hayes, Haliburton, Kira Lewis, and Tyrell Terry

[bluebellmaniac]

It is now 20 days until the draft.

'nuff said.

[Dejounte]

New Draft rumors

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2915414-2020-nba-draft-buzz-emerging-point-guards-and-latest-rumors.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

No mention about the Spurs, but still interesting nonetheless

[mo7888]

New Draft rumors

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2915414-2020-nba-draft-buzz-emerging-point-guards-and-latest-rumors.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

No mention about the Spurs, but still interesting nonetheless

When I get from reading that is.....some real good prospects are going to fall as lottery teams reach...

[ZeusWillJudge]

New Draft rumors

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2915414-2020-nba-draft-buzz-emerging-point-guards-and-latest-rumors.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

No mention about the Spurs, but still interesting nonetheless


I'm not a fan of Kira Lewis, but I have to admit that's impressive: "The pandemic interrupted Lewis' most impressive stretch at Alabama, where he averaged 23.2 points and 6.7 assists while shooting 46.3 percent from three over his final nine games. " I saw him play against Auburn late in the season, and he barely reached double digits scoring, but it was part of a triple double.

My problem with him is that he's such a lightweight, and he has sort of the same mentality as Harden. Not saying he's going to be another Harden, or even close. Just the same mindset. But I don't think he has the frame to put on strength like Harden, so he's going to get eaten alive between the 3P line and the rim in the NBA.

[KobesAchilles]

I'm not a fan of Kira Lewis, but I have to admit that's impressive: "The pandemic interrupted Lewis' most impressive stretch at Alabama, where he averaged 23.2 points and 6.7 assists while shooting 46.3 percent from three over his final nine games. " I saw him play against Auburn late in the season, and he barely reached double digits scoring, but it was part of a triple double.

My problem with him is that he's such a lightweight, and he has sort of the same mentality as Harden. Not saying he's going to be another Harden, or even close. Just the same mindset. But I don't think he has the frame to put on strength like Harden, so he's going to get eaten alive between the 3P line and the rim in the NBA.
I am worried about that as well. But still, he could get some muscle to take the bumps and it would be nice to have a guard that can constantly beat his man off the dribble and create for himself and others. As far as defense goes, yeah he's going to get torched in many welcome to the NBA moments by star point guards, but he looks like he has fight in him and it can only help his growth if we develop him right...

Which is another thing I'm worried about. Pop hasn't shown he knows how to develop PGs. Every coach has a weakness (Bill Bellicheat can't spot WR talent) but I believe Pop's weakness is developing point guards. I know we had Tony Parker and he was a hall of famer and blah blah blah, but in many ways Pop played against Tony's strengths for most of Tony's career. Say what you want but before 2014 Patty Mills, we were struggling mightily for back up point guards bc Pop couldn't develop them

[wildbill2u]

I'm not a fan of Kira Lewis, but I have to admit that's impressive: "The pandemic interrupted Lewis' most impressive stretch at Alabama, where he averaged 23.2 points and 6.7 assists while shooting 46.3 percent from three over his final nine games. " I saw him play against Auburn late in the season, and he barely reached double digits scoring, but it was part of a triple double.

My problem with him is that he's such a lightweight, and he has sort of the same mentality as Harden. Not saying he's going to be another Harden, or even close. Just the same mindset. But I don't think he has the frame to put on strength like Harden, so he's going to get eaten alive between the 3P line and the rim in the NBA.

Didn\t we worry that Tony Parker was going to get creamed down low amonst the Big Boys. Somehow some guards learn to live with their light muscle tone and survive. Not comparing him to Tony, but small guys are worth a shot if they have talent.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Elh30B8WkAEyMJW?format=jpg&name=large

[ZeusWillJudge]

Didn\t we worry that Tony Parker was going to get creamed down low amonst the Big Boys. Somehow some guards learn to live with their light muscle tone and survive. Not comparing him to Tony, but small guys are worth a shot if they have talent.


Yah, I hear you. I can't help thinking of him as one of those guys who puts up numbers and loses games. I should probably have something stronger than poor decision making, a high turnover rate, and a hunch to back it up. But that's it. I'm not a believer. I should probably just keep it to myself, because I don't think the Spurs are going to take him at 11, and he won't be there at 41.

[PhantomDashCam]

Yah, I hear you. I can't help thinking of him as one of those guys who puts up numbers and loses games. I should probably have something stronger than poor decision making, a high turnover rate, and a hunch to back it up. But that's it. I'm not a believer. I should probably just keep it to myself, because I don't think the Spurs are going to take him at 11, and he won't be there at 41.

I think he’s gone by 11 now anyway. Think at the very latest it’s 10 to the Suns. Just curious Zeus, who do you want and who do you think Spurs take at 11?

[rankingtear]

I am worried about that as well. But still, he could get some muscle to take the bumps and it would be nice to have a guard that can constantly beat his man off the dribble and create for himself and others. As far as defense goes, yeah he's going to get torched in many welcome to the NBA moments by star point guards, but he looks like he has fight in him and it can only help his growth if we develop him right...

Which is another thing I'm worried about. Pop hasn't shown he knows how to develop PGs. Every coach has a weakness (Bill Bellicheat can't spot WR talent) but I believe Pop's weakness is developing point guards. I know we had Tony Parker and he was a hall of famer and blah blah blah, but in many ways Pop played against Tony's strengths for most of Tony's career. Say what you want but before 2014 Patty Mills, we were struggling mightily for back up point guards bc Pop couldn't develop them

You forgot George Hill?

[KobesAchilles]

You forgot George Hill?
The dude who air balled the game winning 3 against Memphis? Or got lit up by Dragic? Nope. I have never forgotten that bum

[rankingtear]

The dude who air balled the game winning 3 against Memphis? Or got lit up by Dragic? Nope. I have never forgotten that bum

Ok... Do you hate every player on the spurs? Lol

[cjw]

The dude who air balled the game winning 3 against Memphis? Or got lit up by Dragic? Nope. I have never forgotten that bum

He was good enough to trade for an almost lottery pick and another pick to boot. History remembers otherwise.

[KobesAchilles]

Ok... Do you hate every player on the spurs? Lol
tbh I am finding it harder and harder to like my team. I loved Sean and David and of course the Big 3. Tim is my fav player of all time with Manu and Tony right behind. 2014 was just an incredible year. But I always hated George Hill. Might've been bc they were talking so much shit about Tony and saying they should trade my man TP, but I remember judging Hill very harshly bc of that. We lost to Dallas in 09. We were embarrassed by the Suns in a sweep in 10, especially Hill who couldn't guard anyone nor produce offensively, but I remember thinking, okay now that Hill has the playoff experiences he will take that next step. Pop and everybody loves him so obviously it's me who is in the wrong... Then he airballed that game winner in game 1 against Memphis.

Now idgaf if a player misses a game winner. I don't expect them to make the shot every time or something ridiculous like that, but you can't AIRBALL a game winner. That showed me right then and there he would always be small time and could never be trusted in the clutch (see 2018 Cavs missed free throw) and when we traded him for Kawhi I was beyond ecstatic. So yeah I'm anti-George hill as a Spur but obviously very pro George Hill as far as what he got us

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1322218338894848001?s=19

With this news, it will be easy to tell which 10 prospects the Spurs bring in because of social media.

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1322218338894848001?s=19

With this news, it will be easy to tell which 10 prospects the Spurs bring in because of social media.

They aren’t talking about prospects. You never do practices of ten at a time. They’re talking about NBA players under contract to you team. Practice starts early this year. Makes me think the NBA will start on Christmas if they’re opening the NBA facilities already.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/dmurrayNBA/status/1322332539072221185

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/dmurrayNBA/status/1322332539072221185

Not bad. Kawhi type measurements.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1322354725833068545

[The Truth #6]

Not bad. Kawhi type measurements.

His defensive potential is tantalizing. We’d need a late 1st to get him most likely.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think he’s gone by 11 now anyway. Think at the very latest it’s 10 to the Suns. Just curious Zeus, who do you want and who do you think Spurs take at 11?


Unlike most people here, I think (know) that who to pick has to be somewhat roster-dependent. We have to make our picks in a vacuum, not knowing what the Spurs overall strategy is - especially for DDR, LMA, and a couple of the young guys that might be part of a trade.

For this roster, my first choice was Saddiq Bey. I think he'll be a better defender than some people give him credit for, and he can stroke the 3. If they're going to have a true youth movement, he would be a good one to put into the mix.

I wanted Tyrese Haliburton back when he was projected in the 20's. Now it seems like nearly everyone has him in the top 8 or so. (If you were to look at my picks last year before the NCAA Tournament, you would see several guys that were projected as late 1st round picks, who moved up into the lottery.) The same goes for Killian Hayes.

I would take Tre Jones over a lot of the players who are being discussed. He's a bulldog on defense, and he would help keep the offense flowing, and avoid those spells where this team looks like the Washington Generals. He's a net + for this team, right out of the box.

They can't all get picked 1-10, and I would settle for Okongwu or Avdija, if either fell that far. I have reservations about both, but they're probably good values at 11.

Patrick Williams looks like someone that Pop would normally put in Austin for most of his rookie season. Kind of hard to get excited about that, with the best draft pick the Spurs have had in... forever. I feel the same way about Vassell, and that's assuming that the stories about him cocking up his stroke are wrong - without a killer 3P shot, he's a second round pick. If the Spurs picked either one of those, I wouldn't cry. But I would brace for another season like the last one.

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1322354725833068545


Some serious springs there. That's better than Lecque last year, and he was pretty freakish.

For those who didn't watch them, and just look at Tyler's 3P%, don't start thinking that he's a better value pick than his brother. Tyler only took around 30 3P shots last season, where Saddiq took somewhere around 170-180. Saddiq can stand out beyond the arc and make it rain. That will bend a defense.

[Dejounte]

https://i.imgur.com/A5uv5mY.png

These numbers were taken in August 2019.

The height measurements were taken without shoes. So what you expect their NBA height listing will be is to add one inch to these numbers.

The height is pretty accurate as far as what I can tell. They match the couple of combine results we have seen reported thus far.

I would not expect the weight to be accurate, as it was taken a year ago.

The wingspan is off by 1" give or take. For example, Udoka's wingspan is 7'8" here, but recently was reported as 7'7.25". Tyler Bey's wingspan is 7' here, but recently reported as 7'1.25". So the wingspan list is off by -1"/+1".

My notes:
-Toppin has a short wingspan yikes
-Desmond with a 6'4" wingspan

[The Truth #6]

Some serious springs there. That's better than Lecque last year, and he was pretty freakish.

For those who didn't watch them, and just look at Tyler's 3P%, don't start thinking that he's a better value pick than his brother. Tyler only took around 30 3P shots last season, where Saddiq took somewhere around 170-180. Saddiq can stand out beyond the arc and make it rain. That will bend a defense.

I would love him for our second pick, if possible.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1322665202018496513

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1322674070857543680

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1322675398904172544

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1322676294841065472

[talkspurs]

Hall is someone I am interested in as a 2nd rd or FA. dont know much about him so he would be a pure upside player.

[J_Paco]

Some serious springs there. That's better than Lecque last year, and he was pretty freakish.

For those who didn't watch them, and just look at Tyler's 3P%, don't start thinking that he's a better value pick than his brother. Tyler only took around 30 3P shots last season, where Saddiq took somewhere around 170-180. Saddiq can stand out beyond the arc and make it rain. That will bend a defense.

Um, Saddiq Bey & Tyler Bey aren't to my knowledge brothers. One guy grew up in the suburbs of Maryland & the other out in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Either would be useful as a Spurs pick, but not sure either is worth reaching for at 11. Maybe one or both fall & the Spurs can grab them in the 2nd round? Highly unlikely with those combine numbers posted by Tyler & Saddiq being a good wing prospect himself.

[talkspurs]

Um, Saddiq Bey & Tyler Bey aren't to my knowledge brothers. One guy grew up in the suburbs of Maryland & the other out in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Either would be useful as a Spurs pick, but not sure either is worth reaching for at 11. Maybe one or both fall & the Spurs can grab them in the 2nd round? Highly unlikely with those combine numbers posted by Tyler & Saddiq being a good wing prospect himself.

Shaddiq would not be a reach at 11. He is actually who I want us to take. I think GS is going to be trying to trade back to our pick or slightly later to grab him. They are very high on him.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1322953186412531713

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1322953186412531713

Nice form.

[szkorhetz]

Nice form.
I would love to have him. Perfect big man for today's NBA.

[talkspurs]

I like daniel Oturu Better

[BackHome]

Yeah I like Orturu a lot hopping we can do some trades that either gets us another first or a high second.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/JeremyWoo/status/1323283344285683713?s=20

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/Jb465oNHBVc

From the video: “No one plays the lottery expecting to win.
The cost is negligible but the payoff can be life changing.”

Interesting take on some of the biggest boom or bust targets in the lottery.

[DAF86]

https://youtu.be/Jb465oNHBVc

From the video: “No one plays the lottery expecting to win.
The cost is negligible but the payoff can be life changing.”

Interesting take on some of the biggest boom or bust targets in the lottery.

#draftpoku

[DAF86]

If we don't draft Poku and he ends up panning out, I don't think I will be able to take the amount of anger my body will experience, tbh. :lol

[Chinook]

If we don't draft Poku and he ends up panning out, I don't think I will be able to take the amount of anger my body will experience, tbh. :lol

What if he goes before 11 and you hear that PATFO desperately tried to get him but another team offered up like two future firsts?

[Dejounte]

What if he goes before 11 and you hear that PATFO desperately tried to get him but another team offered up like two future firsts?

Come on now, no one is going to offer that much for Poku. No one might even offer that for any other prospect in this draft. I don't think teams are buying into the hype as fans are. He could very well fall into the second round. This could be another case of a Bol Bol situation.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/dailythunder/status/1322985762095304705?s=09

[pad300]

https://youtu.be/Jb465oNHBVc

From the video: “No one plays the lottery expecting to win.
The cost is negligible but the payoff can be life changing.”

Interesting take on some of the biggest boom or bust targets in the lottery.

These guys are pretty self-contradicting. They talk down Greek div 2 when talking about Poku, but when talking about RJ Hampton in the NBL (I would say a weaker league than Greek div 2), "High school to the pros, regardless of what pro league, is a massive leap". Hampton got his ass kicked, while Poku was pretty good...

[PhantomDashCam]

If we don't draft Poku and he ends up panning out, I don't think I will be able to take the amount of anger my body will experience, tbh. :lol

:lol I understand. We all have our draft crushes. Thunder are the perfect team for him though, as Dejounte posted. I mean they have that many 1st rounders over the next few years from the PG and Westbrook trades, they can afford to be very ambitious. Spurs may feel they have already taken their “Poku” last year in Sham.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

https://twitter.com/dailythunder/status/1322985762095304705?s=09


I definitely can see OKC and Boston if they don't trade their multiple picks in this draft, grabbing Pokusevski

[exstatic]

Come on now, no one is going to offer that much for Poku. No one might even offer that for any other prospect in this draft. I don't think teams are buying into the hype as fans are. He could very well fall into the second round. This could be another case of a Bol Bol situation.

He’s not Bol Bol, and he’s not going to fall into the second round. He may drop out of the lottery, but I don’t think he will. If he gets past us, I think Boston takes him at 14, and OKC never gets a whiff. I’m not sure in this financial climate that BOS will have any luck peddling those 3 first rounders and their associated guaranteed contracts.

[R. DeMurre]

I definitely can see OKC and Boston if they don't trade their multiple picks in this draft, grabbing Pokusevski

I don't see Poku lasting until OKC at #25. I bet Milwaukee, Denver, Brooklyn or Dallas will be too tempted to potentially pair unicorns.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Um, Saddiq Bey & Tyler Bey aren't to my knowledge brothers. One guy grew up in the suburbs of Maryland & the other out in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Either would be useful as a Spurs pick, but not sure either is worth reaching for at 11. Maybe one or both fall & the Spurs can grab them in the 2nd round? Highly unlikely with those combine numbers posted by Tyler & Saddiq being a good wing prospect himself.



Sorry... there's a long-running joke about it - sort of like "why did we trade Paul George?". I thought it was on this site, but must have been another one that I post on sometimes.

https://twitter.com/thecity2/status/1202462892949266432

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1324377616682536962

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1324377616682536962

Now i'm wondering if this counts as an in person meeting

[pad300]

Now i'm wondering if this counts as an in person meeting

I doubt it, it was an interview not a workout, and therefore it will be a zoom thing...

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1324377616682536962

This guy looks good. Is he eligible for the draft? Or is this one of those premature interviews where the Spurs look at him a year before he becomes top 10 the following year like Obi Toppin

[Dex]

Less than two weeks!

[Dejounte]

Had a dream we drafted some unknown player we never talked about with the 11th pick

[rankingtear]

This guy looks good. Is he eligible for the draft? Or is this one of those premature interviews where the Spurs look at him a year before he becomes top 10 the following year like Obi Toppin

Eligible , took the RJ Hampton route but barely got off the bench.

[pad300]

Eligible , took the RJ Hampton route but barely got off the bench.

That's interesting, unless I missed something it is too later for "international" players to withdraw, so he's in this draft for sure...

[Dex]

Had a dream we drafted some unknown player we never talked about with the 11th pick

With the 11th pick of the 2020 NBA Draft, the San Antonio Spurs select...Whosthat Neverheardofem.

[Prime BEEF]

Had a dream we drafted some unknown player we never talked about with the 11th pick
Yup. This or just a 2nd rounder that we use #11 on

[Dejounte]

11 more days!!!!!!!!!!

GOAT SG with the jersey number 11

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DIo2VzdQB7IDeRAQJ8FwDihbQK0=/0x0:4321x2179/1200x800/filters:focal(1816x1096:2506x1786)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67231579/1202370754.jpg.0.jpg

[bluebellmaniac]

10 days until the draft.

The countdown has begun. Get your best draft picks on record and what would be your best draft day trade. What pick(s) do we end up with and how.

TimVP ... Err... Dejounte stop stealing my schtick...

[Dhbsr555]

By tf would we draft a guard

[Dejounte]

CHVYlGGD9EM

Slenderman

[buttsR4rebounding]

CHVYlGGD9EM

Slenderman

Been hitting up the Athens Skinny and Tall. What is he? Like a 34 XXXXXL?

[DAF86]

The Marfan DemiGod looking fly. Did you check that swagger? There's no way he busts out.

#draftpoku #aimhigh #ptsasstsrbdsblksstls #statstuffer

[pad300]

Call it a sign of maturity and being over himself; he dresses like an adult not a 14 year old who thinks he's a Gangster...

[Dejounte]

Call it a sign of maturity and being over himself; he dresses like an adult not a 14 year old who thinks he's a Gangster...

Who in the world are you talking about? As far as i remember, all of these prospects wear suits during draft night. Or did you not realize he's wearing that suit to show off what he's going to wear on draft night?

[TD 21]

Typical coded language from a closet racist. Basing how Pokusevski dresses and what it supposedly says about him off of one instance for a specific reason and doing the same with tons of others based off of snippets over the years.

[Rito3d30]

nbadraft.net has James Wiseman slip all the way to 11th pick:lol

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

[Degoat]

What is with people’s obsession with Poku, spurs haven’t hit on an international prospect in how long?

[Thomas82]

nbadraft.net has James Wiseman slip all the way to 11th pick:lol

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

I saw that too. But we would have to move up to get him, which is easier said than done.

[DAF86]

What is with people’s obsession with Poku, spurs haven’t hit on an international prospect in how long?

What is with people's obsessession with Poku? I don't know, maybe the fact that he's a 7 foot point guard that can do pretty much anything on a basketball court on both sides.

[Degoat]

What is with people's obsessession with Poku? I don't know, maybe the fact that he's a 7 foot point guard that can do pretty much anything on a basketball court on both sides.

People said the same thing as Luka last season lmao I’m not impressed at all

[Degoat]

You can’t draft Poku after you drafted Luka imo

[DAF86]

People said the same thing as Luka last season lmao I’m not impressed at all

The Samanic/Poku comparissons need to end. They play nothing alike.

Have you seen an actual game of Pokusevski?

[Degoat]

The Samanic/Poku comparissons need to end. They play nothing alike.

Have you seen an actual game of Pokusevski?

Just film breakdowns but from what I’ve seen his competition is a joke lol maybe I’m wrong but if he was really worth it he’d be going higher in the draft, I just don’t see it

[DAF86]

Just film breakdowns but from what I’ve seen his competition is a joke lol maybe I’m wrong but if he was really worth it he’d be going higher in the draft, I just don’t see it

He is not the consensus number 1 pick because of the same reason Giannis wasn't either: he plays in the second division league of Greece. Giannis proved that to be a mistake. Let's see what happens with Poku.

[exstatic]

People said the same thing as Luka last season lmao I’m not impressed at all

Nope. Luka could dribble, pass, and shoot, and had a 38” vertical. Poku can dribble, pass, shoot, block shots, steal, and rebound at a very high rate for a skinny guy. That’s like twice the number of skills.

[Degoat]

Nope. Luka could dribble, pass, and shoot, and had a 38” vertical. Poku can dribble, pass, shoot, block shots, steal, and rebound at a very high rate for a skinny guy. That’s like twice the number of skills.

Lots of players have skill, but how they translate to the NBA is what matters, sure you look at Luka and he does have skill but he’s hasn’t showed any of it in the NBA and I have a hard time imagining Poku will translate to the big league as well.

[exstatic]

Lots of players have skill, but how they translate to the NBA is what matters, sure you look at Luka and he does have skill but he’s hasn’t showed any of it in the NBA and I have a hard time imagining Poku will translate to the big league as well.

Your lack of imagination will have nothing to do with his success or failure in the NBA, and you absolutely don’t find prospects with that varied of a skill set more than once every 3-4 years.

[Dejounte]

Boys, boys, settle down. We have only nine days to go. No point in trying to convince anybody about any prospect at this point.

[Degoat]

Your lack of imagination will have nothing to do with his success or failure in the NBA, and you absolutely don’t find prospects with that varied of a skill set more than once every 3-4 years.

Literally just last year Bol Bol had the same skill set as Poku lmao but agree to disagree, it’s fun to speculate but I just view other prospects being much better then him for the spurs

[Degoat]

Boys, boys, settle down. We have only nine days to go. No point in trying to convince anybody about any prospect at this point.

Im pumped! I wish we would hear more about who the spurs have been working out

[pad300]

Who in the world are you talking about? As far as i remember, all of these prospects wear suits during draft night. Or did you not realize he's wearing that suit to show off what he's going to wear on draft night?

That's exactly what I mean, he's got an man's suit on for draft night, not some nightmare dreamed up by a 13 year old in love with "Glam". Have you seen some of the suits worn on draft night? Consider some of the sartorial choices from last year : https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/20/2019-nba-draft-best-worst-suits-outfits-pics

[Sugus]

That's exactly what I mean, he's got an man's suit on for draft night, not some nightmare dreamed up by a 13 year old in love with "Glam". Have you seen some of the suits worn on draft night? Consider some of the sartorial choices from last year : https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/20/2019-nba-draft-best-worst-suits-outfits-pics

Yeah man, did you see that gangsta suit Tyler Herro was wearing on draft night?? Smh, what a boy, not over himself, surely wouldn't be a good pick nor could help his team until he grows up out of that fashion trend...... :lmao

Draft day is quite explicitly an opportunity for prospects to dress up. For most, it'll be their first live TV appearance. I wouldn't go as far as saying regular suits are frowned upon, but out-of-the-ordinary suits are the rule and not the exception. Matter of fact, it doesn't surprise me that Poku didn't quite catch the trend and went with a classic suit, it probably didn't translate over well. Oh, and just in case it wasn't apparent enough: basing your evaluation of a prospect (or any person, for that matter) on the way they dress, is quite narrow-minded and quite frankly stupid. Not to mention Poku's game looks nothing like someone who has "gotten over themselves" would, which can be argued as a strength for him due to his playing profile.

[JuneJive]

https://t.co/oOtduLncv9 espn insider article

Any mention of the Spurs?

[rankingtear]

ESPN Draft Buzz:


After those three, the second tier includes Deni Avdija, Obi Toppin, Isaac Okoro, Tyrese Haliburton, Onyeka Okongwu and Patrick Williams. Those players appear likely to make up picks Nos. 4-9 in some order.


Picks Nos. 10-20 beginning to take shape There is far less consensus around the league after that top nine. Devin Vassell, Killian Hayes, Aaron Nesmith, Tyrese Maxey, Precious Achiuwa, RJ Hampton, Kira Lewis and Saddiq Bey are the most likely to land among teams in the top 20.


Aleksej Pokusevski, Cole Anthony, Jalen Smith and Josh Green could also go that high, though their draft ranges appear to be a bit wider.

[Dejounte]

We're so close, you sons of bitches

[buttsR4rebounding]

We're so close, you sons of bitches

I think most sources put Killian Hayes with the 2nd tier and the next tier starts w 11.

[The Truth #6]

ESPN Draft Buzz:

Killian Hayes possibly at 11? Yes, please. (I think Patrick Williams is a big riser, which is fine with me.)

[JuneJive]

If they don't move up, which seems likely, someone good will drop to #11.

[Sugus]

Dejounte you better have a last part of your polling set up for a few days before the draft - I'm interested to see how the tides have turned up to now. I can officially say I'm off the Achiuwa bandwagon, and into the Smith bandwagon, but actually don't think we'll be in a position to draft either of them come draft night.

[DAF86]

Literally just last year Bol Bol had the same skill set as Poku lmao but agree to disagree, it’s fun to speculate but I just view other prospects being much better then him for the spurs

Bol Bol doesn't even come close to the level of ball handling, playmaking and passing ability Pokusevski has.

[bluebellmaniac]

9 glorious days until the draft.

In a few hours, it will be 8 great days until the draft.

The energy level is rising. Hear the drums beating...

[look_at_g_shred]

Dejounte (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=51342) you better have a last part of your polling set up for a few days before the draft - I'm interested to see how the tides have turned up to now. I can officially say I'm off the Achiuwa bandwagon, and into the Smith bandwagon, but actually don't think we'll be in a position to draft either of them come draft night.
Damn so in that scenario, who’s falling to us?

[Sugus]

Damn so in that scenario, who’s falling to us?

My sleeper pick is Onyeka Okongwu at #6, just to go against the general tide of Wiseman at #2. But we can't really know for sure what the Spurs are up to until the draft.

[Thomas82]

My sleeper pick is Onyeka Okongwu at #6, just to go against the general tide of Wiseman at #2. But we can't really know for sure what the Spurs are up to until the draft.

I didn't realize that Okongwu was a teammate of both Lonzo and LaMelo Ball in high school.

[rankingtear]

Seems Pat is now firmly outside our range. Hoping Killian drops. I also wouldn't mind Vassell, looks like Danny Green with more offensive potential.

[SpurPadre]

Seems Pat is now firmly outside our range. Hoping Killian drops. I also wouldn't mind Vassell, looks like Danny Green with more offensive potential.

One way or another, we're moving in the draft slot.

[look_at_g_shred]

So much has been said that this is a weak draft, but there is no question that whoever we draft would no question be like top 4/5 (at worst) most talented player on the team. This team is so devoid of talent that anyone we draft will bolster this team.

[RiverwalkParade]

Read that Dallas wants to move up. Thoughts on flipping 11 for 18 and 31?

[Chinook]

I would rather pay to improve 41 than to move down.

[exstatic]

Read that Dallas wants to move up. Thoughts on flipping 11 for 18 and 31?

Fuck that noise. Cuban can go suck a dick.

[Degoat]

The ringer released their team needs article list today for the draft, they recommended Jaden Mcdaniels, Tyrese Maxey, and Saddiq Bey for the spurs at 11 lol

[The Truth #6]

The ringer released their team needs article list today for the draft, they recommended Jaden Mcdaniels, Tyrese Maxey, and Saddiq Bey for the spurs at 11 lol

No one is taking Jaden McDaniels in the lottery, but he’s intriguing for the second round pick if his character issues are not as bad as believed. But it is weird they didn’t have Patrick Williams as a suggestion.

[DPG21920]

My order if SA drafts 11th:

Patrick Williams
Toppin
Nesmith
Vassell

That order

[KobesAchilles]

I'm still on the Kira Lewis bandwagon. I know that I've been all over the place for this draft but my feet have firmly landed on us drafting a point guard. I like Lewis bc of his speed, ability to beat people off the dribble, and his jumper is pretty good. I wouldn't mind us drafting Hayes either since I'm on the point guard train

[Degoat]

I'm still on the Kira Lewis bandwagon. I know that I've been all over the place for this draft but my feet have firmly landed on us drafting a point guard. I like Lewis bc of his speed, ability to beat people off the dribble, and his jumper is pretty good. I wouldn't mind us drafting Hayes either since I'm on the point guard train

I honestly wouldn’t mind us drafting a PG but if we do we gotta get rid of some of the guys imo

[Degoat]

If we stay at 11 my draft order would probably be... (Unless somebody unexpectedly falls)
1. Jalen Smith
2. Precious A.
3. Isaac Okoro
4. Patrick Williams

[KobesAchilles]

I honestly wouldn’t mind us drafting a PG but if we do we gotta get rid of some of the guys imo
I'm hoping to get rid of Forbes, Patty, Marco, and DDR. That should open up the space to make DJ the shooting guard. Derrick the PG. KJ the 3. LMA the 4 and Poetl the 5. Bench of Eubanks, Lyles, Lonnie, Lewis, and Gay

[PhantomDashCam]

With P. Will apparently making his way into the top 10 of latest mocks, Okoro is looking like the guy who might be bumped out.

Assuming Spurs hold firm at 11, an interesting choice to be made if Spurs are going BPA and that pertains to wings, who do you choose out of Okoro, Nesmith, Vassell, Bey (consensus BPAs)?

I would throw RJ Hampton, Bane, McDaniels into the mix too.

[look_at_g_shred]

With P. Will apparently making his way into the top 10 of latest mocks, Okoro is looking like the guy who might be bumped out.

Assuming Spurs hold firm at 11, an interesting choice to be made if Spurs are going BPA and that pertains to wings, who do you choose out of Okoro, Nesmith, Vassell, Bey (consensus BPAs)?

I would throw RJ Hampton, Bane, McDaniels into the mix too.
Nesmith

[tim_duncan_fan]

No Okoro.

No shorties.

[Degoat]

No Okoro.

No shorties.

I kind of agree but let’s be real if he’s better then our shortys on the team even better

[Degoat]

The ringer Podcast today said the spurs are interested in Patrick Williams and Jaden McDaniels

[PhantomDashCam]

I wonder if the workout with Adivja was not so much about the Spurs having interest in him as their pick, more so how does the projected consensus #1 wing compare to who the Spurs believe is the #1 wing in the draft...

[Dejounte]

The ringer Podcast today said the spurs are interested in Patrick Williams and Jaden McDaniels

Bullshit? Link? I havent watched Jaden at all because of the concerns about his character.

[Degoat]

Bullshit? Link? I havent watched Jaden at all because of the concerns about his character.

not sure how to link it lol I don’t buy it either but Kevin O Connor said it and he’s a pretty credible reporter. On the podcast they discuss it around the 26:00-26:30 mark

[TD 21]

I'd rather any of Vassell, Nesmith or Bey ahead of Okoro.

That relative lack of size (for a projected 3.5) combined with that lack of shooting (67% from the line, often an indicator of future success or lack thereof from 3) makes me think the second coming of Winslow.

Unless you're a rim running center, it's difficult to avoid being a net negative if you can't shoot in today's game, especially for a player who'll more than likely never be more than a secondary creator/play maker.

[Degoat]

Not gonna lie lol #11 is to early for him I think but Jaden Mcdaniels is intriguing, watched a recent video of him being interviewed by ESPNs Mike Schmidt and he interviewed pretty well

[Dejounte]

He's so skinny though and in a way, reminds me of Kyle Anderson due to his fluidity. I don't think 11th would be a good spot for him either

[The Truth #6]

It’s funny, just a few days ago I started thinking that the spurs might look at Jaden McDaniels because he fits their profile in a sense. But is he one of the 10 players they have seen in person? Lots of noise, too. Could be another distraction.

[rankingtear]

Some combine measurements

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?dir=1&sort=HEIGHT_WO_SHOES

[Dejounte]

Some combine measurements

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?dir=1&sort=HEIGHT_WO_SHOES

Freaking sweet! Finally!!!! Thanks

[mo7888]

Some combine measurements

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?dir=1&sort=HEIGHT_WO_SHOES

I'm really pleased with Jalen Smith's and Woodard's measurables... Perry was a little better than I expected as well...

[Dejounte]

Body Fat%
Hand Length
Hand Width
Height W/O Shoes
Height W Shoes
Standing Reach
Weight
Wingspan


Jalen Smith
PF-C
3.70%
9.25
9.25
6'9.25''
6'10.25''
9'2.00''
224.6
7'2.25''


Zeke Nnaji
PF-C
5.90%
9
10.5
6'9.25''
6'10.50''
8'9.50''
246.8
7'2.00'


Killian Tillie
PF
12.43%
8.25
9.25
6'8.75''
6'10.00''
8'10.00''
221.6
6'8.00''


Paul Reed Jr.
PF
6.83%
9
8.75
6'8.50''
6'9.25''
9'1.50''
219.2
7'2.00''


Precious Achiuwa
PF
6.70%
9
10
6'7.50''
6'8.75''
9'0.50''
234
7'0.75''


Xavier Tillman Sr.
PF-C
8.50%
10.25
11
6'7.50''
6'8.50''
8'10.00''
266.5
7'2.00''


Isaiah Stewart
C
7.50%
9
10.5
6'7.25''
6'8.50''
9'0.50''
243
7'4.75''


Tyler Bey
PF
5.00%
8.5
9
6'6.00''
6'7.00''
8'9.50''
212.8
7'1.25''


Jordan Nwora
SF-PF
11.68%
8.5
9.25
6'5.75''
6'7.00''
8'8.00''
223
6'10.25''


Robert Woodard II
SF
4.50%
9
10.75
6'5.50''
6'7.00''
8'9.50''
230.2
7'2.00''


Jayden Scrubb
SG-SF
3.70%
8.25
9.75
6'5.00''
6'6.25''
8'8.50''
185.2
6'9.50''


Cassius Stanley
SG
5.80%
8.25
9
6'5.00''
6'6.25''
8'3.50''
201.6
6'7.00''


Mason Jones
SG
8.90%
8.75
8.5
6'3.75''
6'5.75''
8'6.50''
207.2
6'7.00''


Immanuel Quickley
SG
8.20%
8
8.75
6'2.00''
6'3.00''
8'3.00''
185.8
6'8.25''


Grant Riller
PG-SG
5.40%
8
8.5
6'0.25''
6'1.00''
8'0.50''
178.4
6'5.25''



Here are the Spurstalk notables.

Jalen Smith with the stand out standing reach!! One of the best in the list.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Surely Cassius Stanley's standing reach must is wrong. I'd really like him with the 2nd round pick if he's there.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1326533752193945600?s=19

[look_at_g_shred]

Tyler Bey's measurements are pretty good.

[Degoat]

If the 17th pick + jarrett Culver can grab the 6 pick then spurs better be working on it too

[BackHome]

Who are you looking at 6 degoat?

[Degoat]

Who are you looking at 6 degoat?

It would depend on who we would have to trade but personally I’d be targeting either Deni, Onyeka, or Obi if one of them is there at 6

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1326584593009565697?s=19

I can't believe they used a workout on Terry Armstrong. Must be a legitimate candidate at our 41st pick. He's got good size and athleticism for a small forward.

[Dejounte]

Probably a chance the Spurs are using these 10 meetings for prospects they're still on the fence about. It's possible the times they have scouted other players and spoken to was enough information for them to go by.

[rankingtear]

1326588253458345997

I think he is confused, the Terry one is a zoom interview based on the account he got the report from.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1326616444189077504?s=19

Don't get me hyped up like this...

[KobesAchilles]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1326616444189077504?s=19

Don't get me hyped up like this...
prayingdog.gif

[DPG21920]

Tried to tell yall

[ginobilized]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1326616444189077504?s=19

Don't get me hyped up like this...

DDR to Pistons AND LMA to Dubs!!!!! Move some pawns around to make it work. Total rebuild. It might be time for the Spurs to actually make moves.
I'd love this. It would be nice to have a fresh start and it would be a full circle move for Pop to go back to coaching without HOF players

[bluebellmaniac]

7 luxurious days until the draft. 7 days until the excitement explodes and we know the details of what is to be.

Prepare yourselves and remember that night.

[Chinook]

DDR to Pistons AND LMA to Dubs!!!!! Move some pawns around to make it work. Total rebuild. It might be time for the Spurs to actually make moves.
I'd love this. It would be nice to have a fresh start and it would be a full circle move for Pop to go back to coaching without HOF players

Spurs out, DMDR, LMA 11
Spurs in, 2, Wiggins

Pistons out, 7
Pistons in, 11 DMDR

Warriors out, 2, Wiggins
Warriors in, 7, LMA

That's probably the best deal any of those non-Spurs teams are going to get. It saves SA a lot of money this year and helps them avoid the tax, but their long-term cap situation isn't great. I'd definitely want more back from GS, but some folks here have argued that the Warriors would get a comparable deal to this without much effort.

[DPG21920]

Spurs getting fleeced some there compared to other teams but when you factor in ddr leaving for 0 and LMA leaving next year?

Better than nothing.

[bluebellmaniac]

Spurs getting fleeced some there compared to other teams but when you factor in ddr leaving for 0 and LMA leaving next year?

Better than nothing.

When you think of it like that, it's trading 11 for 2 & Wiggins.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/MattBabcock11/status/1326616444189077504?s=19

Don't get me hyped up like this...

Saw this earlier. The writing was on the wall, this just confirms what we've been thinking. I'm hyped too tbh, and it's a great sign that the FO is being active and moving instead of staying put, whether trades end up happening or not. Seeing them stay still and "content with what we got" another year would've been awful.

[FvckMavs]

Spurs out, DMDR, LMA 11
Spurs in, 2, Wiggins

Pistons out, 7
Pistons in, 11 DMDR

Warriors out, 2, Wiggins
Warriors in, 7, LMA

That's probably the best deal any of those non-Spurs teams are going to get. It saves SA a lot of money this year and helps them avoid the tax, but their long-term cap situation isn't great. I'd definitely want more back from GS, but some folks here have argued that the Warriors would get a comparable deal to this without much effort.

Spurs may be better off by just keeping the 11 pick and letting DDR and LA walk for nothing next year than taking on the #2 pick and Wiggins’ 100m/3yrs contract.

[DPG21920]

Spurs out, DMDR, LMA 11
Spurs in, 2, Wiggins

Pistons out, 7
Pistons in, 11 DMDR

Warriors out, 2, Wiggins
Warriors in, 7, LMA

That's probably the best deal any of those non-Spurs teams are going to get. It saves SA a lot of money this year and helps them avoid the tax, but their long-term cap situation isn't great. I'd definitely want more back from GS, but some folks here have argued that the Warriors would get a comparable deal to this without much effort.

In the deal SA should keep 11

[duncan2150]

In the deal SA should keep 11
Yes I think so

Aldridge and 11 for 2 and Wiggins maybe but if you add derozan that's not enough imo

[cd98]

Spurs trading Pop.

[SpursDynasty85]

Yes I think so

Aldridge and 11 for 2 and Wiggins maybe but if you add derozan that's not enough imo

Did not even think of that. Detozan and Warriors might welcome him with open arms too but what would/could they give up? Next years first wouldn’t be enough since it would be so low but something around 15-18 would be perfect.

[exstatic]

There are never rumors with details about the Spurs. Something’s up.