Official 2014 Free Agency Thread

[Mugen]

I don't like Pau in either OKC or Miami. But better out East than replacing Porkins tbh.

[tmtcsc]

:lol Overspending. Jodie Meeks for 19 Mil? WTF?

[ace3g]

Francisco Garcia (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2755/francisco-garcia)

Al-Farouq Aminu (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4248/al-farouq-aminu)

Would be happy with either

[TheGoldStandard]

Francisco Garcia (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2755/francisco-garcia)

Al-Farouq Aminu (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4248/al-farouq-aminu)

Would be happy with either

Aminu would be ideal given that he can improve under our tutelage

[Aztecfan03]

Looks like Miami may have some cash to land someone decent.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/484058869145292800

HEat are supposedly still interested in Lowry with that. I'd be haappy with the heat using the rest of their money on Lowry tbh. They would have to fill up the rest of their roster with scrubs

[DesignatedT]

Livingston to GS is good in my book. GS was one of the places I thought would make a huge run at Patty.

[DPG21920]

Wow - that deal for Meeks. Also, wow, that deal for Gortat. I like Gortat and if on the right team I think he can be very good. But Splitter is a better overall basketball player and Tiago's contract is sooooo much better than Gortat's. 4/36 v 5/60? 1 year, 24M more for Gortat than Splitter.

With regards to Livingston on GS, I think with how well he played in BKY that 3 years, at ~5M is a very fair deal. Especially since it's only 3 years and from what we've heard that last year isn't even fully guaranteed. Not only is that a big need for GS, Livingston is a good fit. I think that is easily the best signing so far value/fit wise.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Livingston to GS is good in my book. GS was one of the places I thought would make a huge run at Patty.

Exactly. And Piston and bucks were the other teams. Piston just signed Meeks to a ridiculous contract and Bucks got Parker who is more of a sg in the NBA. So these deals are great as teams cap and needs are dwindling.

[TheGoldStandard]

Wow - that deal for Meeks. Also, wow, that deal for Gortat. I like Gortat and if on the right team I think he can be very good. But Splitter is a better overall basketball player and Tiago's contract is sooooo much better than Gortat's. 4/36 v 5/60? 1 year, 24M more for Gortat than Splitter.

With regards to Livingston on GS, I think with how well he played in BKY that 3 years, at ~5M is a very fair deal. Especially since it's only 3 years and from what we've heard that last year isn't even fully guaranteed. Not only is that a big need for GS, Livingston is a good fit. I think that is easily the best signing so far value/fit wise.

GS with smart moves to bolster there bench with someone who provides length, some scoring and rebounding. Smart deal too, not to much. Shows what a decent GM can do with proper direction.

[Baam]

Gortat is a great offensive player, comparing him to Splitter would be like comparing Tony Allen to Afflalo or something...

[beirmeistr]

I wish the Spurs would hurry up and re-sign Boris. Come on, Parker, talk to your buddy.

[DPG21920]

Man, I know circumstances differ, but Curry & Parker's contracts compared to some of these guys is just :lol

[DPG21920]

Spurs have a lot of opportunity, especially if Boris doesn't get a big raise, to pursue cap space. Especially if they decide to move on from Boris (unlikely) and/or Patty (maybe). If Boris takes a contract that is not a big raise and the Spurs can dump a player or two, they can have their cake (Boris/Patty) and eat it to.

Even if not, they have the full MLE, but with how this FA is going, I don't know if that will be enough to get anyone :lol I am a little surprised Shaun Livingston agreed so early. Obviously BKY only had mini-MLE and they were't contenders (plus the Kidd mess), but with Meeks getting a big contract and plenty of teams likely to have interest, you'd think 3 years, MLE would be the floor for him. He must really want to play in GS.

[elemento]

SVG trying to emulate that Orlando/Howard team in Detroit. A team full of shooters around Drummond. Meeks, C.Martin and he wants Morrow now.

[TheGoldStandard]

Gortat is a great offensive player, comparing him to Splitter would be like comparing Tony Allen to Afflalo or something...

Perhaps but he's not a scoring option that qualifies a 12 mil deal. If he was a defensive big yes but he isn't

[TheGoldStandard]

SVG trying to emulate that Orlando/Howard team in Detroit. A team full of shooters around Drummond. Meeks, C.Martin and he wants Morrow now.

Drummond can't hit free throws either.

[loveforthegame]

Money aside, nice move by GS to get Livingston.

[DPG21920]

I don't mind the fit with Meeks in DET, but stupid contract given his performance in the NBA in total.

[TheGoldStandard]

I don't mind the fit with Meeks in DET, but stupid contract given his performance in the NBA in total.

Playing with house money until the seat gets hot in February

[Mr. Body]

I'm not sure how Livingston will work in GSW but it lets Curry play SG and off the ball more. It's a good signing.

[DPG21920]

I think it's a great fit and I'm very sad he ended up in GS for such a reasonable deal.

[r0drig0lac]

Hide ya kids, Hide ya wife, cuz Spurs just courtin' errybody up in here.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Nathan89]

GS with a great signing for decent money imo. That's a dangerous team in the West. They have nice combination of talents. They just need Bogut to stay healthy.

[TheDarkSide.]

Gasol is totally going to Miami I just know it(why live in OKC for less money), but he's no Gortat so i'm okay with it.

[ace3g]

Matt Moore CBS @MattMooreCBS
(https://twitter.com/MattMooreCBS)Report: Josh McRoberts, Trail Blazers share 'mutual interest' cbsprt.co/1o5IlBe (http://t.co/FtNS21dq0l)

[Dverde]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Golden State's verbal agreement with Shaun Livingston is a three-year deal for the full midlevel every year, ESPN has learned.



This is paving the way for Kevin Love to GSW. They signed Livingston to replace Klay. I think it is a great move for them assuming he stays health.

[cd021]

This is paving the way for Kevin Love to GSW. They signed Livingston to replace Klay. I think it is a great move for them assuming he stays health.

Weren't they supposed to get K-Mart back in the Love deal? Would think that he'd play Klays role

[cd021]

Gasol is totally going to Miami I just know it(why live in OKC for less money), but he's no Gortat so i'm okay with it.

I thinks so too. Gortat re-up and Lowry seems to be looking at Houston and Toronto. I could see Gasol and Nelson and maybe cheap big like Ed Davis (probably on a 1 year deal) they'd improve their PG play but Gasol is going to be a tough fit in their defense (i would think) but is obviously an upgrade and can still board and score in the post.

Would mean Lebron plays much more at SF than PF

[DPG21920]

Per Woj:


The cost for Gasol could still be prohibitive for the Heat, but there's little doubt he could be an intriguing part to a supporting cast in Miami. So far, Gasol is still pushing for a $10 million-$12 million annual salary, league sources said.

The NBA champion San Antonio Spurs have inquired with Gasol's agent Arn Tellem, expressing an interest, sources said, but the Spurs can't become a legitimate suitor unless Gasol significantly drops his asking price.

Spurs are showing interest and if we know Gasol's asking price (10-12M) we know what the Spurs will have to do in order to get him (or have a shot) if they really want to.

[DesignatedT]

S&T

[tholdren]

Matt Moore CBS @MattMooreCBS
(https://twitter.com/MattMooreCBS)Report: Josh McRoberts, Trail Blazers share 'mutual interest' cbsprt.co/1o5IlBe (http://t.co/FtNS21dq0l)


damn

[tholdren]

Per Woj:



Spurs are showing interest and if we know Gasol's asking price (10-12M) we know what the Spurs will have to do in order to get him (or have a shot) if they really want to.
Trading tony and kawhi for Pau is not a good idea

[DesignatedT]

damn

:lol mutual interest is far from a done deal

[DPG21920]

Trading tony and kawhi for Pau is not a good idea

What?

[tholdren]

What?
should i have used the blue?

[Kindergarten Cop]

https://twitter.com/nbarumors1/status/484143861573238784

NBA Rumors ‏@NBARumors1

Kent Bazemore has meetings lined up with the San Antonio Spurs next Tuesday followed by the Boston Celtics next Wednesday, sources confirm.


Sorry, I'm not exactly sure how to embed info from Twitter.

[tholdren]

:lol mutual interest is far from a done deal
I know, but until he says he has mutual interest with SA, then Portland is one step ahead. I think he'd be a good fit for them too.

[DPG21920]

should i have used the blue?

I see :lol

[tholdren]

I see :lol

What do you think about Pau? Good fit for us? Too much?

[Mugen]

Pau would be another expensive luxury that would cost the Spurs Mills or Boris. He'd be a good fit but I'll pass tbh.

It'd be a terrific get for the Heat tho.

[manufan10]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrgcJPNCMAEUbyd.png:small

[Baam]

https://twitter.com/nbarumors1/status/484143861573238784

Bazemore would be a nice Beli replacement tbh.

[Baam]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrgcJPNCMAEUbyd.png:small

How are we supposed to know who they talking about?

Edit : ok it's Pau... Meh...

[DPG21920]

What do you think about Pau? Good fit for us? Too much?

I think he's a very good fit, especially if it comes via S&T leaving the Spurs with more room to sign additional players. Spurs can very likely keep Patty and still have the cap space to sign Pau (assuming a couple other moves) IMO. Pau is a pretty incredible player and no doubt better than Boris. But Boris is a great fit. It's a tough call and it would depend on the contrac size before I can really make a determination.

[Chinook]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrgcJPNCMAEUbyd.png:small

My respect for PG plummets even more. S&T deals have to be at least three years with the first guaranteed. No one is guaranteeing Matt $5 Million.

[Baam]

I think he's a very good fit, especially if it comes via S&T leaving the Spurs with more room to sign additional players. Spurs can very likely keep Patty and still have the cap space to sign Pau (assuming a couple other moves) IMO. Pau is a pretty incredible player and no doubt better than Boris. But Boris is a great fit. It's a tough call and it would depend on the contrac size before I can really make a determination.

Meh not a tough call at all the WCF and the Finals was all about offensive spacing and putting Splitter on the bench... Good luck getting Ibaka out of the paint with Duncan Splitter and Gasol Splitter...

[tholdren]

I think he's a very good fit, especially if it comes via S&T leaving the Spurs with more room to sign additional players. Spurs can very likely keep Patty and still have the cap space to sign Pau (assuming a couple other moves) IMO. Pau is a pretty incredible player and no doubt better than Boris. But Boris is a great fit. It's a tough call and it would depend on the contrac size before I can really make a determination.
Pau for Splitter?

[look_at_g_shred]

I really like Chris douglas-Roberts from Charlotte

[Baam]

Pau for Splitter?

If they want to start Diaw then that'd be a great deal... Pau would be the best backup center in the league... Pretty sure the Lakers don't want Splitter tho...

[DPG21920]

But the fact the Spurs offered Baynes a QO and kept Daye leads me to believe they don't want to pursue cap space. Still could, but early signs point to no.

But in theory, if the Spurs renounced Boris and Matt, they would be at approximately 57M in salaries (this includes Patty Mills roster charge, Baynes qualifying offer & Kyle Anderson's roster charge). If the Spur can dump Ayres & CoJo for example, that would put the Spurs salaries roughly at 53M. With the cap at ~63M, that would allow the Spurs 10M to sign Pau then still re-sign Patty for what ever they want essentially.

Not likely at all, especially with the Baynes/Daye moves so far, but it's definitely plausible if both SA and Pau really want to make it work.

[Mugen]

I think he's a very good fit, especially if it comes via S&T leaving the Spurs with more room to sign additional players. Spurs can very likely keep Patty and still have the cap space to sign Pau (assuming a couple other moves) IMO. Pau is a pretty incredible player and no doubt better than Boris. But Boris is a great fit. It's a tough call and it would depend on the contrac size before I can really make a determination.

You keep Boris, easily. Pau doesn't give you much more than what you already have with Tim/Tiago on the team tbh.

[look_at_g_shred]

Pau is injury prone this stage in his career. He's essentially a 7-8 mil a year guy. Not 10-12 :lol Would much rather have the Tiago/Diaw tandem for that much. Both low maintenance players.

[DesignatedT]

If the major players with cap room start to fill up their rosters than Pau could re think what he will play for.

Miami - big three + Lowry
Chicago - Melo
Houston - Matches Parsons
Dallas - Deng


Does that pretty much take care of the contenders with significant room?

I doubt he goes to a place like Phoenix.

[DPG21920]

I can see the arguments both ways, but the money doesn't matter to me. Either way (Pau or Boris) Spurs finances remain the overall same (or close enough). I think Pau is a tremendous fit (passing, shooting and overall ability) and I think it would work.

[elemento]

My respect for PG plummets even more. S&T deals have to be at least three years with the first guaranteed. No one is guaranteeing Matt $5 Million.

While I agree with you, we can't say something similar hasn't happened. Our own Centerpiece got a shit load of money as a S&T filler.

[xmas1997]

Pau is injury prone this stage in his career. He's essentially a 7-8 mil a year guy. Not 10-12 :lol Would much rather have the Tiago/Diaw tandem for that much. Both low maintenance players.

Me too, Pau is 33 and little if ant defense, Tiago is 29 and is defensive and offensive and Boris is 32 with 3 pt shooting, offensive and defensive.
No matter how you slice it the Spurs are better off with Boris and Tiago.

[TheDarkSide.]

No way i would give up Boris for Pau. Boris has been able to pull some shit out of his ass against 'Bron theres no way Pau could do the same. Boris is younger and seems less emotional and less ego IMO.

[eDizzle20]

As much as I like Pau's game the Spurs need mobile and shot blocking bigs at this point. The Spurs also would not be able to offer much playing time for Pau with Duncan/Splitter/Diaw (assuming he re-signs).

[cd021]

If the major players with cap room start to fill up their rosters than Pau could re think what he will play for.

Miami - big three + Lowry
Chicago - Melo
Houston - Matches Parsons
Dallas - Deng


Does that pretty much take care of the contenders with significant room?

I doubt he goes to a place like Phoenix.

Thunder also have the M.L.E but i saw on Hoophype that it was unlikely that he'd go to OKC

[DesignatedT]

I too would like Pau but not at the expense of any of our main 8.

Lakers could be interested in Patty. A S&T with Patty and a filler might work although I assume some would even be against that :lol

[DesignatedT]

Thunder also have the M.L.E but i saw on Hoophype that it was unlikely that he'd go to OKC

Yeah they would become a player if Pau started to consider MLE money. I was talking about the teams that could offer him what he reportedly wants though (10-12 / yr)

[MannyIsGod]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrgcJPNCMAEUbyd.png:small

This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. If you could do a S&T with non guarnteed deals do you have any idea how many teams would abuse the shit out of htat?

[MannyIsGod]

I think Boris over Pau. Boris deserves some loyalty.

[look_at_g_shred]

Ed Davis would be a great pickup.

[cd021]

Yeah they would become a player if Pau started to consider MLE money. I was talking about the teams that could offer him what he reportedly wants though (10-12 / yr)

ok, didn't read your post close enough.

[ace3g]

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
(https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN)Josh McRoberts drawn interest from Charlotte, Dallas, Clev, Miami, Clippers, Knicks, Portland, Phoenix, Spurs and Lakers, source told ESPN.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. If you could do a S&T with non guarnteed deals do you have any idea how many teams would abuse the shit out of htat?

I agree that it's dumb, but I guess it makes a tiny bit of sense to trade a nonguaranteed contract to the Lakers since they'll probably want to test the free agency pool again next summer.

[Aztecfan03]

How are we supposed to know who they talking about?

Edit : ok it's Pau... Meh...

If we could sign and trade bonner and ayres for him that would be sweet. but agree no way LA does that.

[Mel_13]

I agree that it's dumb, but I guess it makes a tiny bit of sense to trade a nonguaranteed contract to the Lakers since they'll probably want to test the free agency pool again next summer.

Except that the Bonner example in that scenario is impossible.

[Nathan89]

If we package cojo, ayres, and Bonner at 2mil is the maximum incoming salary 150% of the outgoing?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Except that the Bonner example in that scenario is impossible.

Oh. Well shit.

[DPG21920]

I can't imagine LA wanting any of SA's players (especially with Patty now hurt). LA does need players though so who knows.

[Nathan89]

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
(https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN)Josh McRoberts drawn interest from Charlotte, Dallas, Clev, Miami, Clippers, Knicks, Portland, Phoenix, Spurs and Lakers, source told ESPN.


That's good news.

[DPG21920]

If we package cojo, ayres, and Bonner at 2mil is the maximum incoming salary 150% of the outgoing?

Yes, because it's less than 9.8M.

[xmas1997]

My guess is that the Spurs were just putting out feelers to see if Gasol wanted to come here and if so, how much would he want.
Once they found out, they moved on to the next FA on their list which may or may not be McRoberts.
At this point they have exed him off their list too and are moving on to next guy after him.
By the time we get the reports, they have moved on, one step ahead of everyone.

[Chinook]

If we package cojo, ayres, and Bonner at 2mil is the maximum incoming salary 150% of the outgoing?

That, plus $100k.

[DesignatedT]

McRoberts getting a ton of interest. Dude will get a nice offer from somewhere

[Baam]

I expect Bazemore to be signed shortly now, they need a guard for sure with Mills injury...

[DPG21920]

McRoberts getting a ton of interest. Dude will get a nice offer from somewhere

Watch Frye. I would imagine a similar market for those two with Frye coming out ahead on most list (PHX can easily keep him if they want though).

[Nathan89]

Well given the Patty injury Cojo shouldn't be involved in anyone hypothetical trades.

[Chinook]

I don't see the Spurs signing any free agent unless they lose someone. If one of Ayres/Baynes goes, I'd love the team to add McRoberts. Then the Spurs would have three legit centers and three passing/shooting PFs.

If the Spurs add a 15th player, I think it should be a guard. If DeShaun Thomas impresses his way onto the roster, it needs to be at the expense of Daye/Ayres.

[DesignatedT]

Watch Frye. I would imagine a similar market for those two with Frye coming out ahead on most list (PHX can easily keep him if they want though).

I do think Frye ends up staying in Phoenix but i would much rather have Mcroberts out of the two.

[Baam]

I don't see the Spurs signing any free agent unless they lose someone. If one of Ayres/Baynes goes, I'd love the team to add McRoberts. Then the Spurs would have three legit centers and three passing/shooting PFs.

If the Spurs add a 15th player, I think it should be a guard. If DeShaun Thomas impresses his way onto the roster, it needs to be at the expense of Daye/Ayres.

So you're fine with Beli guarding PGs for half the season, possibly even in the POs if Mills doesn't get back soon enough?

Imo it's a given they need an extra guard now...

[objective]

I don't get this Bazemore stuff. Didn't he only put up okay numbers on a garbage team that was just screwing around and getting fake stats the last half of the season?

I didn't watch too many 2nd half laker games.

[Ron Swanson]

Well given the Patty injury Cojo shouldn't be involved in anyone hypothetical trades.

Nope. He'll definitely be here next season.

[Knoxxx]

Cojo is still very young this gives him more opportunity to develop.

[DesignatedT]

So you're fine with Beli guarding PGs for half the season, possibly even in the POs if Mills doesn't get back soon enough?

Imo it's a given they need an extra guard now...

7 months would be January and that's at the absolute maximum it will take to rehabilitate his shoulder IMO. Still plenty of time to work your way into the rotation for playoffs. They probably do need another guard but depending on how serious the spurs really think it is, Cory could carry the load for half a season.

Positive thing about upper body injuries is he will still be able to stay in shape while he's sitting out.

[Baam]

7 months would be January and that's at the absolute maximum it will take to rehabilitate his shoulder IMO. Still plenty of time to work your way into the rotation for playoffs. They probably do need another guard but depending on how serious the spurs really think it is p, Cory could carry the load for half a season.

That's the question.

[Chinook]

So you're fine with Beli guarding PGs for half the season, possibly even in the POs if Mills doesn't get back soon enough?

Imo it's a given they need an extra guard now...

Mills is going to be fine. But even if he were going to miss time in the post-season Joseph would fill that spot.

Anyways, that's why I said they need a guard if anything. I'd like to see someone developmental, though.

[loveforthegame]

I don't get this Bazemore stuff. Didn't he only put up okay numbers on a garbage team that was just screwing around and getting fake stats the last half of the season?

I didn't watch too many 2nd half laker games.

I hated that the Warriors traded him. He's like the energizer bunny. Scrappy and plays pesky defense. His offense has come a long way too. He doesn't specialize in any one thing but does a little of everything.

I'm not sure where he gets his minutes with Leonard, Green, Manu, and Marco though. But I can understand why the Spurs would show interest.

[Baam]

I hated that the Warriors traded him. He's like the energizer bunny. Scrappy and plays pesky defense. His offense has come a long way too. He doesn't specialize in any one thing but does a little of everything.

I'm not sure where he gets his minutes with Leonard, Green, Manu, and Marco though. But I can understand why the Spurs would show interest.

If Anderson runs the point he could defend the opposing PG, that could be pretty awesome imo...

[manufan10]

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[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Strong likelihood, I'm told, is Patty Mills re-signing w/San Antonio & taking 'til January to recover. Firmer diagnosis to come post-surgery

[Mel_13]

Mills is going to be fine. But even if he were going to miss time, Joseph would fill that spot.

Anyways, that's why I said they need a guard if anything. I'd like to see someone developmental, though.

Why is this so hard for some to see?

[Baam]

Why is this so hard for some to see?

Because Pop doesn't trust him, never has really...

[manufan10]

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[DPG21920]

Ya - Patty came up aces, but the Spurs had a competition for a reason. CJ should do an admirable job.

[Mel_13]

Because Pop doesn't trust him, never has really...

That's your opinion...

[DesignatedT]

My guess is spurs bring in a 3rd pg for cheap. Telfair possibly.

[Chinook]

I'm hoping for Denmon still. He'd be a pretty good sixth guard/hustle guy.

[DPG21920]

484190567878782976

Very TP-esque situation indeed. Hopefully it makes both parties happy!

[xmas1997]

With Anderson, I can't help thinking that the Spurs are in the drivers' seat here, that they really don't need another PG per se, especially if he pans out as advertized.

[TheGoldStandard]

Mills takes a discount

[DPG21920]

If this allows not only CJ to develop (which every time he's been thrust into an important situation he's done so well) but gets Patty back at a reasonable cost, it's not bad at all.

I would imagine if Patty is signed quickly that really means no cap space (assuming his deal is for a decent amount more than his cap hold).

[Chinook]

Very TP-esque situation indeed. Hopefully it makes both parties happy!

I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.

[ducks]

the more reason manu should be resting
tp is but should work on 3 point shot more

[Mel_13]

If this allows not only CJ to develop (which every time he's been thrust into an important situation he's done so well) but gets Patty back at a reasonable cost, it's not bad at all.

I would imagine if Patty is signed quickly that really means no cap space (assuming his deal is for a decent amount more than his cap hold).

The only real chance for cap space involved letting Boris leave and that was always a very long shot.

[Baam]

What are people expecting Mills to make, healthy imo his ceiling was Beli money (2.5M iirc) so it's gonna be less now...

[Baam]

I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.

I'd do it with a team option...

[Ron Swanson]

Why is this so hard for some to see?

Because we have a ton of Chicken Littles here. Given this injury, we're pretty damn fortunate to have 3 PGs who have experience in this system. Not saying that Joseph is the same player, but he can get the job done for half the season.

[DPG21920]

I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.

Agreed - obviously not what he was hoping for, but a nice risk-reward scenario for Patty if he recovers. Losing out on 10-14M guaranteed, but potential to make up for that if he recovers.

[DesignatedT]

Joseph and De Colo can handle it.

wait.

[MannyIsGod]

What are people expecting Mills to make, healthy imo his ceiling was Beli money (2.5M iirc) so it's gonna be less now...

You're crazy if you think Patty didn't play his way to a bigger contract than 2.5 million a year.

Prior to the injury, of course.

[DPG21920]

The only real chance for cap space involved letting Boris leave and that was always a very long shot.

It's still possible along with a couple of other moves, but ya, I agree. Was just outlining some scenarios because of the Pau report.

[Chinook]

Agreed - obviously not what he was hoping for, but a nice risk-reward scenario for Patty if he recovers. Losing out on 10-14M guaranteed, but potential to make up for that if he recovers.

And he'd be protected if he doesn't.

[Chinook]

I'd do it with a team option...

Me too, but Patty wouldn't. I'd do $10M/2 if that second year were non-guaranteed.

[ducks]

some thought pre injury 5 million a year

[Mel_13]

It's still possible along with a couple of other moves, but ya, I agree. Was just outlining some scenarios because of the Pau report.

I know.

I think the Spurs expressed interest in Pau for the MLE. It's up to him to decide between chasing more money or more rings.

[anakha]

Because Pop doesn't trust him, never has really...

Yeah, trusted him so little that he started the second half of arguably the most critical game of the postseason.

[DesignatedT]

Wish we could get our hands on grievas Vasquez. I wonder what Toronto plans to do if he signs an offer sheet.

[DPG21920]

I know.

I think the Spurs expressed interest in Pau for the MLE. It's up to him to decide between chasing more money or more rings.

:lol I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.

[Chinook]

I can't believe Vasquez is an RFA. Feels like the dudes been in the league forever. I think Toronto is his fourth team.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.

You never know, desperation is a stinky cologne

[Mel_13]

:lol I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.

I'm not saying that they had any real expectation that he would take it. Just that when we see reports that the Spurs "expressed interest" in a player we have to take it with a grain a salt.

In the Pau example, Stein is clearly getting his info from Pau's agent, not the Spurs. So Pau's agent calls the Spurs to gauge their interest. The Spurs tell him that they really like Pau, but they only have the MLE to offer.

Pau's agent talks to Stein and includes the Spurs in a list of teams that have "expressed interest" in his client.

[DPG21920]

I know. This one came from Woj though, so I gave it a little more credibility.

[ChumpDumper]

So the Spurs have "expressed interest" in about a dozen players for one roster spot.

Sounds about right.

[TheGoldStandard]

So the Spurs have "expressed interest" in about a dozen players for one roster spot.

Sounds about right.

We will see a few solid invites and then they'll leave that 15th spot open.

[Ron Swanson]

So the Spurs have "expressed interest" in about a dozen players for one roster spot.

Sounds about right.

We're waiting for LeBron to fill that last spot.

[TheGoldStandard]

We're waiting for LeBron to fill that last spot.

"I'm taking my talents to the River Walk"

[Ice009]

I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.

I'd love that contract with a TO. If he kicks ass, then the Spurs can give him a nice raise in the 2016 off season. Unless you guys think a PO would be better for both Patty and the team?


Me too, but Patty wouldn't. I'd do $10M/2 if that second year were non-guaranteed.

I'd be interested in a contract like that too, but not sure if the Spurs want to pay someone 5 million who could be out for at least 1/3 of the season.


:lol I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.

Especially with what happened with Maggette. They flirted with him for a long, long time with that mid-level exception and then when he got a bigger offer from someone else, he took the money and immediately ran.

[Ditty]

I expected Patty to get $4-$5 million per year. Now I can see him getting $2-$3 million a year. Diaw will probably command $7-$8 million a year.

I have a question. Spurs supposedly have $9 million in salary cap room. They can go over that amount to resign there players right, and still have the MLE to spend on a free agent? Whatever happened to LLE also? Sorry if they're dumb questions.

[Mel_13]

I expected Patty to get $4-$5 million per year. Now I can see him getting $2-$3 million a year. Diaw will probably command $7-$8 million a year.

I have a question. Spurs supposedly have $9 million in salary cap room. They can go over that amount to resign there players right, and still have the MLE to spend on a free agent? Whatever happened to LLE also? Sorry if they're dumb questions.

They will have the MLE and the LLE. The LLE, also known as the Bi-Annual Exception, cannot be used in consecutive years. The Spurs used it in 2012 to sign Nando. They have it again this season.

[Chinook]

I expected Patty to get $4-$5 million per year. Now I can see him getting $2-$3 million a year. Diaw will probably command $7-$8 million a year.

I have a question. Spurs supposedly have $9 million in salary cap room. They can go over that amount to resign there players right, and still have the MLE to spend on a free agent? Whatever happened to LLE also? Sorry if they're dumb questions.

LLE is still around. The team last used it on De Colo.

EDIT: Damn. Got Mel'd.

[Ditty]

Thanks!

[spursparker9]

How about Jameer Nelson ?

SA really need one more PG, especially now that Patty is out and Manu will be playing in the World Cup.

[TheGoldStandard]

How about Jameer Nelson ?

SA really need one more PG, especially now that Patty is out and Manu will be playing in the World Cup.

Nelson doesn't feel like a Spur to me.

[xmas1997]

This may be a chance for Slomo to shine too, show off his PG skills.

[TheGoldStandard]

This may be a chance for Slomo to shine too, show off his PG skills.

Summer League has even higher implications for the Spurs in the short term.

[xmas1997]

No word on Diaw yet?

[Emperor]

Wish we could get our hands on grievas Vasquez. I wonder what Toronto plans to do if he signs an offer sheet.

Yeah that'd be a good pickup but already stated he wants to remain in Toronto the rest of his career.

[Mr. Body]

Evan Turner more of a possibility now?

Anderson comes in handy much more now. But no great solutions.

[Baam]

484221102613200896

Damn a Thomas-Ellis backcourt wouldn't suck offensively...

[Chinook]

Damned good move by Cuban if they can land Thomas and Ariza.

[Ice009]

Wow. I really liked Isaiah Thomas since his first game playing against the Spurs. Can't believe the Spurs missed out on him in that draft. He's usually had big games against us nearly every time the Spurs play the Kings.

I also wanted Monta Ellis last off season too. I thought he could be a deadly one two punch with Manu off the bench. People said he was selfish and wouldn't be that good, but I thought he showed he can be a team player in Dallas.

[Emperor]

Damned good move by Cuban if they can land Thomas and Ariza.

Kinda hoping Washington will give him a long term deal like Gortat and he takes it. or if some other team like Cleveland gets him instead.

[Johnny RIngo]

Despite dominating the playoffs, the Spurs roster isn't perfect(Ayres is proof of that). Marco will be exposed next year with Manu being unable to carry his ass every game. Mills will be out until all-star break. The bench could use an upgrade in talent. Ayres is the weakest link right now - he just doesn't belong on this team. Can't shoot, can't defend, average rebounder, unable to catch a basketball at an NBA level. The only thing he does decently is pass the ball but even that skill is mostly useless since he has problems catching even the simplest of passes. At this point, he's a waste of a roster spot. Kyle Anderson is already a better basketball player and he has yet to set foot on an NBA court.

[venitian navigator]

List of my preferred players for the MLE:

1) Ariza (best possible asset but difficult; he'll have more money with other offers);
2) Turner (should be available);
3) Davis (if the fo decide that Ayres is not gonna improve).

[100%duncan]

Turner sucks.

[barakz21]

List of my preferred players for the MLE:

1) Ariza (best possible asset but difficult; he'll have more money with other offers);
2) Turner (should be available);
3) Davis (if the fo decide that Ayres is not gonna improve).
Do it R.C!!! Sure, Davis's career has been underwhelming so far, but at least he's got untapped potential. Ayres? Not so much. I hate to be the guy who knocks down someone who works hard (looks like it to me), but Ayres just doesn't get the job done, and often times, he's more harm than help.

[Emperor]

Not sure how reliable his "sources" are though lol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/484296380413116416

[hsxvvd]

Not sure how reliable his "sources" are though lol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/484296380413116416

From what I've seen... his "sources" are basically other people's twitter accounts. He's always the last to report.

[Ice009]

Not sure how reliable his "sources" are though lol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/484296380413116416

Wow. If they are only offering Lance a similar amount of money per year to George Hill, that's not a smart move from Indiana.

[Emperor]

Wow. If they are only offering Lance a similar amount of money per year to George Hill, that's not a smart move from Indiana.

That may persuade him to sign with Charlotte instead since they can pay him abit more.

[tholdren]

Kent "Blaze-more" with the Lakers: :tu
13.1ppg, 3.3reb, 3.1apg, 1.4stl, 45fg%, 37 3P%, 28MPG
Jimmer would have tripled those numbers on the lakers.

[tholdren]

Evan Turner more of a possibility now?

Anderson comes in handy much more now. But no great solutions.
Evan Turner is not Spurs character, or quality

[DesignatedT]

We need a guy who can handle the ball some. Honestly don't know much about bazemore but he seems intriguing.

[will_spurs]

I hope the Spurs trust both Anderson to develop and Mills to come back, and look to fill other needs with FAs, a player like Aminu for example.

[raybies]

A name that could interest the Spurs, is Nenad Krstic. He's a free agent also and would make a great 4th big.

As for Evan Turner, the Spurs were rumored to be interested in him at the trade deadline last season, so he could be an option if he comes cheap, And he might be cheap. His play in Indiana last season butchered his stock. I doubt there's much interest with him including a 6+ million contract, but at 3-4 mill with Spurs and a hope that the system could save him, might be something he looks at. I'd like a 2 year deal with a team option for a 3rd.

Only thing I dislike about signing Evan, is that he might get in the way of Kyle and his development. But Kyle is 20, and having a more experienced player to back up Kawhi could mean more victories. With that being said, Evan still has potential; he averaged 17.4 PPG, albeit a bad team, last season with the 76ers. Again not my first choice, but could be a find for the Spurs system at the right price.

[DesignatedT]

The Spurs need another guard who can defend PG's effectively. As of right now, they have two guys on the roster who can defend opposing PG's. They don't need another SF IMO.

[DesignatedT]

Celtics and Avery Bradley agree to deal. 4 year / 32M

[Richie]

Celtics and Avery Bradley agree to deal. 4 year / 32M

Another player overpaid. Similar to the Meeks deal I think this is too much, but only just, depending on options. $32m/4yr is probably a good deal if the Celtics get a team option on the 4th year, but I'd say $25m/4yr is probably closer to his value.

[raybies]

The Spurs need another guard who can defend PG's effectively. As of right now, they have two guys on the roster who can defend opposing PG's. They don't need another SF IMO.

Yah, I agree; although, this Patty injury puts us in a tough spot. If we do re-sign Patty and sign another PG, that leaves us with 4 PGs again. It also means we would be letting one of our free agents go, assuming Patty is staying. Who would go? Matt Bonner? Maybe that's why they guaranteed Austin Daye's contract.

[jyra]

A name that could interest the Spurs, is Nenad Krstic. He's a free agent also and would make a great 4th big.

He recently signed in Turkey with Anadolu Efes. While he is still a pretty good offensive player, his defense and rebounding might be worse than Bonner's.

[Richie]

The Spurs need another guard who can defend PG's effectively. As of right now, they have two guys on the roster who can defend opposing PG's. They don't need another SF IMO.

I think Cory can do a job defensively, I think we'll go with him next year as a Mills replacement until he gets over his injury. Doubt we sign another point guard AND Mills

[DesignatedT]

Doesn't necessarily have to be a PG. It could be a wing player as long as he still has the quickness to guard PGs. Bazemore seems to fit the mold of that type of player but I honestly don't know much about him.

[raybies]

He recently signed in Turkey with Anadolu Efes. While he is still a pretty good offensive player, his defense and rebounding might be worse than Bonner's.

Ok, thanks. Hadn't seen that anywhere.


Doesn't necessarily have to be a PG. It could be a wing player as long as he still has the quickness to guard PGs. Bazemore seems to fit the mold of that type of player but I honestly don't know much about him.

Well I remember him being a solid defender at Golden State in the little I saw him, but his defensive rating in LA was 110. Although, the whole team defense was bad so take that with a grain of salt. He's more of a two than a point, but he's versatile for the guard spot. I just dislike the fact we would use our final roster spot on a guard and be letting go of one of our bigs to do it. Do the Spurs really let Patty go?

[Baam]

Celtics and Avery Bradley agree to deal. 4 year / 32M

What's weird is that they just drafted Smart so they could really afford to wait and see if anyone would overpaid for Bradley...

[kobyz]

Celtics and Avery Bradley agree to deal. 4 year / 32M

Makes Meeks deal look sexy...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yah, I agree; although, this Patty injury puts us in a tough spot. If we do re-sign Patty and sign another PG, that leaves us with 4 PGs again. It also means we would be letting one of our free agents go, assuming Patty is staying. Who would go? Matt Bonner? Maybe that's why they guaranteed Austin Daye's contract.

Yes. This is the WORST part about Patty's injury. It saps; hamstrings our flexibility. One of our tradable pieces, Cojo, is now off the table for many deals, and/or we may have to give up another player to sign a guard that is just temporary. Despite his less than stellar play, his knowledge of the system became too valuable when Patty's surgery became necessary. Not saying we could, but if we could have traded him for a pick to open up a roster spot, for example, not possible now. Maybe if someone really impresses in summer league and training camp we could do it, but that would be a risky route and I would expect PATFO to be more conservative with their corporate knowledge in this situation.

[tholdren]

Yes. This is the WORST part about Patty's injury. It saps; hamstrings our flexibility. One of our tradable pieces, Cojo, is now off the table for many deals. Despite his less than stellar play, his knowledge of the system became too valuable when Patty's surgery became necessary. Not saying we could, but if we could have traded him for a pick to open up a roster spot, for example, not possible now. Maybe if someone really impresses in summer league and training camp we could do it, but that would be a risky route and I would expect PATFO to be more conservative with their corporate knowledge in this situation.

I have the opposite look. I think the injury allows us to sign Patty for less. Also, it gives us AMPLE time to put COJO in the mix and see what he brings to the table, as this should be his make or break year. It also opens a spot for more PT for Anderson and Daye. It really forces pop to play those he normally wouldnt. That is, if the roster doesnt change.

I feel bad for patty, but we have a lot of perimeter players that need the work; daye, anderson, italian stallion,

For the first time in awhile Im not really concerned about the roster in the beginning of july.

[raybies]

Yes. This is the WORST part about Patty's injury. It saps; hamstrings our flexibility. One of our tradable pieces, Cojo, is now off the table for many deals. Despite his less than stellar play, his knowledge of the system became too valuable when Patty's surgery became necessary. Not saying we could, but if we could have traded him for a pick to open up a roster spot, for example, not possible now. Maybe if someone really impresses in summer league and training camp we could do it, but that would be a risky route and I would expect PATFO to be more conservative with their corporate knowledge in this situation.If the Spurs haven't signed another PG by summer league, a player to watch might be Bryce Cotton. If he has a good showing, there's a training camp invite. Alls I'm saying is, he might have a shot or any other guard that excels during summer league. Another option could be hidden on the Spurs roster already -- Kyle Anderson. Ran the point in college. If the Spurs don't see something they like, they can wing-it till Patty comes back. I wouldn't mind this scenario; I just know the Spurs don't like to be unprepared.

[littlecoyotecoin]

If the Spurs haven't signed another PG by summer league, a player to watch might be Bryce Cotton. If he has a good showing, there's a training camp invite. Alls I'm saying is, he might have a shot or any other guard that excels during summer league. Another option could be hidden on the Spurs roster already -- Kyle Anderson. Ran the point in college. If the Spurs don't see something they like, they can wing-it till Patty comes back. I wouldn't mind this scenario; I just know the Spurs don't like to be unprepared.

Yes, it will be fun watching Kyle try to run the point, if he gets a chance. I am excited. I am not worried at all for them finding ways to fill in for Patty's absence, I am worried about the roster spots.

Regarding Bryce Cotton, someone should start a thread about that.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I have the opposite look. I think the injury allows us to sign Patty for less. Also, it gives us AMPLE time to put COJO in the mix and see what he brings to the table, as this should be his make or break year. It also opens a spot for more PT for Anderson and Daye. It really forces pop to play those he normally wouldnt. That is, if the roster doesnt change.

I feel bad for patty, but we have a lot of perimeter players that need the work; daye, anderson, italian stallion,

For the first time in awhile Im not really concerned about the roster in the beginning of july.

I agree, but it still makes me leary of them using a roster spot on insurance. Hopefully, they don't have to and their gamble pays off: Cojo shines. I doubt it, but even if he doesnt, there are enough passers on the team to make up for him, and then maybe they trade him for a pick or something and bring in another point guard for the end of regular season and the playoff run.

[xmas1997]

If the Spurs haven't signed another PG by summer league, a player to watch might be Bryce Cotton. If he has a good showing, there's a training camp invite. Alls I'm saying is, he might have a shot or any other guard that excels during summer league. Another option could be hidden on the Spurs roster already -- Kyle Anderson. Ran the point in college. If the Spurs don't see something they like, they can wing-it till Patty comes back. I wouldn't mind this scenario; I just know the Spurs don't like to be unprepared.

I've been saying the same things after watching and reading and listening to all the interviews with Slomo.
His IQ is off the boards. Listen to him talk sometime.
This is the guy who will be special IMHO. And I bet summer league shows the Spurs what they really have here.
I am not worried about the PG position at all.
It almost seems like destiny is opening up for him to shine, what with the injury to Patty, and only Cojo in front of him. Those Magic like comparisons may come to the fore and blossom right before our eyes.
I don't want to get too excited before hand, but I would not be surprised if it happens.

[tholdren]

I agree, but it still makes me leary of them using a roster spot on insurance. Hopefully, they don't have to and their gamble pays off: Cojo shines. I doubt it, but even if he doesnt, there are enough passers on the team to make up for him, and then maybe they trade him for a pick or something and bring in another point guard for the end of regular season and the playoff run.

This is my fear too. I hope they dont sign some old ass wing player who sucks, but pop keeps him in the rotation a la finley and more-so McDyess.

* You drafted Anderson a "lottery talent" and paid Daye, PLAY THEM

[Old School 44]

Not sure how all this free agent negotiating works, but shouldn't we have already seen Diaw and Mills offered contracts from the Spurs or are they waiting to see what their market values are?

[spursfan4ever]

Any news on Spurs bringing back Boris Diaw?

[jyra]

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[xmas1997]

484367985360924673

Toros

[BatManu20]

Like the Bryce Cotton signing. Similar player to Patty size and ability to light it up.

[BatManu20]

The more I think about it, the more I like the possibility of signing Bazemore. He's 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan and athletic who can defend 3 positions. His offense is solid too, getting better every season and his shooting improved vastly last year. A bunch of teams are interested though, including the Lakers.

Just a glimpse of what he's capable of:

NeSOwFfntrU

[tholdren]

Like the Bryce Cotton signing. Similar player to Patty size and ability to light it up.
DITTO

[littlecoyotecoin]

Like the Bryce Cotton signing. Similar player to Patty size and ability to light it up.

I was joking. I started a thread a out him a couple days ago.

[FireMicoHalili]

If Diaw and Mills return...the Spurs have one slot left. It's Baynes vs Bonner vs mystery FA. With the full MLE and BAE at their disposal.

...that's if, of course, he makes the team. Has to work his tush off in the SL and in camp.

[raybies]

Well that happened faster than I thought possible. I figured they would at least see what he could do against some summer league competition. I wonder what this means for Patty, and if this means Bonner is gone. I hope Bonner joins the Spurs staff if he is. For as much as we disliked his play, he is a solid Spur. It could be Baynes though, it's just they extended a qualifying offer to him, so they clearly want him.

Also it must be said, if Bryce doesn't perform well in Summer League, then he probably only has training camp left to show something. If not he's cut. The Spurs can go into training camp with more than 15.

[SpursDynasty21]

Is Bryce Cotton going to be on the team?

[kobyz]

Why they didn't draft Cotton late in the draft if they like him?

[tholdren]

1. Tony Parker 12.5
2. Tim Duncan 10.0
3. Tiago 10.0
4. Manu 7.0
5. Danny 4.025
6. Kawhi 2.89
7. Marco 2.87
8. CoJo 2.02
9. Ayers 1.8
10. Daye 1.06
11. Anderson
-----
12. Boris
13. Patty
14. Bryce
15. Baynes
16. Bonner
-------------
Trading? You have to keep Baynes over Ayers or Bonner

[cjw]

There HAS to be a trade coming with the Cotton signing (don't forget we gave Baynes a qualifying offer). I'd imagine they want flexibility.

[TimDunkem]

Why does everyone seem to forget that teams can hold up to 20 players before the season begins? It's not safe to say that there won't be any spots open for a potential FA + Baynes. Seriously, does anyone really think Bryce Cotton will be on the roster come November? This was a Toros signing.

[Mal]

CoJo or Mills are done with the team. That`s too many guards. Or Spurs consider Anderson as PF and Bonner is gone.

[TheGoldStandard]

Well the Toros just got better

[FireMicoHalili]

Partially guaranteed = can be cut during camp and before season with no salary cap or roster repercussions. Not a lock for a roster spot until he makes opening day roster. But you're all smart so you probably know this already.

[FireMicoHalili]

"@ESPNSteinLine: My man WindhorstESPN reporting Cavs believed to be preparing max offer sheet to RFA Gordon Hayward. ESPN reported Cavs' interest yesterday"

[xmas1997]

I see why now, with both Patty and Manu on injured reserve for part of the season (Patty - shoulder, Manu - right leg) it makes sense to sign a few of the better undrafted prospects.

[FireMicoHalili]

"HPbasketball: Magic agree to two-year, $9 million deal with Ben Gordon


http://t.co/zFxB6PTLC9"

[spursparker9]

"HPbasketball: Magic agree to two-year, $9 million deal with Ben Gordon


http://t.co/zFxB6PTLC9"

Wow Ben Gordon is still in the NBA?

[Mel_13]

"@ESPNSteinLine: My man WindhorstESPN reporting Cavs believed to be preparing max offer sheet to RFA Gordon Hayward. ESPN reported Cavs' interest yesterday"

:lol

There are people here who think that Kawhi won't command the max next summer.

[vander]

:lol

There are people here who think that Kawhi won't command the max next summer.

as much as I like the kid, if he gets max I hope he gets it elsewhere.

[Mel_13]

as much as I like the kid, if he wants max he can get it elsewhere.

The Spurs would match a max offer without any hesitation.

[Mugen]

:lol vander

[kobyz]

Spurs free agency related, does Mellisa come back for next season?

[ducks]

Marc SteinVerified account
‏@ESPNSteinLine Boston/Phoenix/Cleveland are known suitors for Hayward. Little doubt he would've turned down 4/$48M from Jazz unless sure he could get more

[Mel_13]

Spurs free agency related, does Mellisa come back for next season?

Doesn't matter, she'll never be retired from ST.

[Aztecfan03]

The Spurs need another guard who can defend PG's effectively. As of right now, they have two guys on the roster who can defend opposing PG's. They don't need another SF IMO.

not parker? since i'm assuming you mean cojo and green. sure it's better that green guards the elite ones.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 6m

Free agent CJ Miles has agreed to 4-year, $18M deal with Pacers, league source tells Yahoo. @CandaceDBuckner 1st reported an agreement.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Bye bye lance.

Oh and lol @ 4 and 18 mil for CJ Miles. :lol

[Richie]

Looking almost certain that Scola is bought out, I'd love to pick him up if we can dump Ayres.

[Mel_13]

Looking almost certain that Scola is bought out, I'd love to pick him up if we can dump Ayres.

Signing Miles means that they're not going to waive Scola, IMO. Looks like they've moved on from Stephenson by signing his replacement.

[tholdren]

Bye bye lance.

Oh and lol @ 4 and 18 mil for CJ Miles. :lol

Miles is a better player, and what stevenson wanted is bat-shit crazy. And yes, lol

[Mel_13]

The Suns also have made contact with or been contacted by at least 12 other free agents. That includes unrestricted free agents Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Spencer Hawes, Danny Granger, Ed Davis, Marvin Williams and Josh McRoberts and restricted free agents Gordon Hayward, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas and Patrick Patterson. That does not necessarily mean the Suns are interested in all of them.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2014/07/02/suns-want-retain-trio-free-agent-frenzy-begins/11959299/

Diaw's name not on that list. I don't see any other cap space team going after Boris.

[FireMicoHalili]

Seems like Stephenson is headed to...Atlanta? LA?

[Seventyniner]

Diaw's name not on that list. I don't see any other cap space team going after Boris.

Zach Lowe's piece today on Grantland mentions that Diaw is a near lock to re-sign with the Spurs, but he doesn't mention a source or any potential salary figures. While not as plugged-in as Woj, Lowe is still a pretty reliable.

[Mugen]

If there is a god and he has a sense of humor, Lance is a Laker next season tbh.

[ceperez]

I see why now, with both Patty and Manu on injured reserve for part of the season (Patty - shoulder, Manu - right leg) it makes sense to sign a few of the better undrafted prospects.

Duncan and Parker should also take 1/2 of the regular season off!

[SpursFan86]

OKC going after Mike Miller per Stein. Also Miller posted a picture of him and Durant together. I really hope he doesn't go there.

[TheGreatYacht]

Caron Butler has received interest from the spurs? These agents crazy

[DesignatedT]

ugh fuck that noise.

[Emperor]

Butler ya

https://mobile.twitter.com/projectspurs/status/484443738911940608

[Mr Fundamental]

Caron Butler has received interest from the spurs? These agents crazyMay be from Tottenham Hotspur..

[Mr. Body]

Pacers should let Stevenson go. He's talented, sure, but that team was a basketcase last year and he's too nutty to allow to remain. They badly need to get a legitimate PG.

Mike Miller to OKC is a good pick-up for them and I hope doesn't happen.

[Emperor]

May be from Tottenham Hotspur..

If you're not a Manc, you're a wank! Butler is typical wank.

[Emperor]

Don't see him coming here though.

[spurraider21]

May be from Tottenham Hotspur..
we can understand your posts even if they aren't bolded, just fyi

[ajh18]

Would rather OKC get Miller than Gasol. Would prefer neither...

[Mr. Body]

I can see the Spurs calling Butler and Granger again. Clearly we need a back-up SF but you're not likely to see a young or near-prime SF wanting to play behind the ranking Finals MVP who is only 23. They'll need to get end-of-their-career guys.

[Mr Fundamental]

we can understand your posts even if they aren't bolded, just fyi
Its a habit :)

[DPG21920]

4 years/18M for CJ Miles. What.

4 years/32M for Avery Bradley. What.

Spurs interested in Caron. Please no.

[DPG21920]

Ben Gordon's deal almost deserves a what, but 4.5M for one year essentially (read that 2nd year at same price is team option) isn't too big of a risk. Makes no sense to trade like they did to get cap space to use on Gordon, but that is besides the point at this point.

[TheGreatYacht]

4 years/18M for CJ Miles. What.

4 years/32M for Avery Bradley. What.

Spurs interested in Caron. Please no.
MAX for Gordon Hayward

[Mugen]

Hell no to Caron. This is like the 4th time there's been "interest" from both sides. That weird eyed nigga can go somewhere else tbh.

[DPG21920]

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What.

[elemento]

Morey with zero class towards Lin.

Fat overrated prick !

[ducks]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/02/report-greg-monroe-wants-josh-smith-traded/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

: Greg Monroe wants Josh Smith traded

[ducks]

Morey with zero class towards Lin.

Fat overrated prick !


Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 8m

Spoke to Lin's agents, Jim Tanner/Roger Montgomery, who say that Houston did NOT inform Lin that the No. 7 would be used for Melo images.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 17m

If 'Melo comes, Lin has to go in a trade -- which Lin's aware. Given 'Melo-Lin history, understandable why Lin would be sensitive about it.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 19m

Houston pre-informed Jeremy Lin of the use of his No. 7 on 'Melo recruiting images, source tells Yahoo Sports.

[TheGreatYacht]

Morey with zero class towards Lin.

Fat overrated prick !

[bthewigwam]

I've read this with other trades and think I read it will apply to the Rockets and Lin if/when they try to clear space for Melo, but how can a team make a trade and not take any salary back under the rules?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Another player overpaid. Similar to the Meeks deal I think this is too much, but only just, depending on options. $32m/4yr is probably a good deal if the Celtics get a team option on the 4th year, but I'd say $25m/4yr is probably closer to his value.
It's honestly not that bad of a deal, being from Boston I watch a lot of celtics games the kid has a lot of potential improved his shooting this year and is getting more confident and is one of the best defensive guards in the league and is only 23

[DPG21920]

I've read this with other trades and think I read it will apply to the Rockets and Lin if/when they try to clear space for Melo, but how can a team make a trade and not take any salary back under the rules?

A team can accomplish this by trading their player (in this case Lin) to a team with cap space (enough to cover the contract).

[Richie]

It's honestly not that bad of a deal, being from Boston I watch a lot of celtics games the kid has a lot of potential improved his shooting this year and is getting more confident and is one of the best defensive guards in the league and is only 23

Don't get me wrong I like Bradley and agree it's not that bad of a deal, but $8m is definitely overpaying him. Considering he's come off multiple surgeries too, it's a lot of risk and I don't see huge reward.

[DesignatedT]

484471098843869184

[Mugen]

Gasol to OKC is bad, bad news tbh.

[DesignatedT]

Yep.

[DesignatedT]

If he's willing to start taking MLE money than RC needs to get on the phone yesterday and tell him why coming here is better than going to OKC

[Chinook]

484471098843869184

I've been calling this for weeks now. He's their missing piece from an SL standpoint.

[Mugen]

if he's willing to sign for the MLE than Miami is absolutely a no-brainer even more so than either OKC or SA.

[RD2191]

:lolDoes Pau play defense?

[DesignatedT]

I've been thinking Miami since they reportedly have more to offer than the MLE. I didn't think Gasol would agree to play for MLE money.

[DPG21920]

How the hell is OKC considered realistic and SA not? What is wrong here?

[TheGreatYacht]

Mills and Spurs agree on a 3yr contract!!