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TheGoldStandard
07-09-2014, 09:10 PM
Saw your other post now - agree they should take on contracts that expire either this year or next as they're not winning as long as Kobe's making $25mm a year. But not sure if they're a rational franchise and I put them in the bucket of teams that are holding out hope for an A lister. If I'm them, I take on Lin plus assets from Houston and see if any bargains fall out elsewhere for role players and sign them to two year deals, hoping to trade them at the trade deadline. It's a tough sell to LA fans though.

Lin is an upgrade over Nash and he doubles the Asian Market for Lakers and can go with Kobe on good will missions. Plus they get a draft pick which they will be out of since they dealt it to Phoenix and either another PG in Beverly or Terrance Jones who's a big who can come off the bench and stretch the floor.

DPG21920
07-09-2014, 09:23 PM
I just don't understand the Rockets. I mean, as soon as they didn't pick up Parson's option (which I get because they wanted the chance to match) were they really so dense that:

o They didn't think he would get a large offer?
o That it wouldn't happen very quickly and other teams would give them the courtesy of letting them do what ever they wanted on their own time?

If it's true that they had Lin deals "lined up" but were waiting to execute them, they are kind of dumb because of the above. They had to know an offer sheet would come fast and even if they thought they could secure commitments from Bosh or Melo, they had to assume they only have 72 hours to pull everything off (finalize Asik trade, trade Lin, sign FA, match Parsons) so they should have just got everything agreed (even without Bosh commitment). Sure it's a risk losing Lin but is it really that big of a deal? Now they are in scramble mode.

DPG21920
07-09-2014, 09:29 PM
LeBron is one cold mother if he leaves Wade hanging like that. Mother fucker is bringing the entire organization down. :lol

Two things:

1) I am sure that before opting out Lebron told them he was not sure what he was doing. As long as he was honest, Wade had to make a decision and probably understood that Bron took less (and a lot of grief) to play with Wade and he helped him win again. It's a risk, but I doubt Bron completely killed him.

2) Assuming Bron is cold blooded, how sick would it be if he went really dark on his teammates, they opted out of money and then he waits more than 3 days to decide. Then Bosh keeps waiting, HOU loses the ability to sign Bosh (and keep Parsons) and then he announces he is leaving.

Mel_13
07-09-2014, 09:33 PM
I just don't understand the Rockets. I mean, as soon as they didn't pick up Parson's option (which I get because they wanted the chance to match) were they really so dense that:

o They didn't think he would get a large offer?
o That it wouldn't happen very quickly and other teams would give them the courtesy of letting them do what ever they wanted on their own time?

If it's true that they had Lin deals "lined up" but were waiting to execute them, they are kind of dumb because of the above. They had to know an offer sheet would come fast and even if they thought they could secure commitments from Bosh or Melo, they had to assume they only have 72 hours to pull everything off (finalize Asik trade, trade Lin, sign FA, match Parsons) so they should have just got everything agreed (even without Bosh commitment). Sure it's a risk losing Lin but is it really that big of a deal? Now they are in scramble mode.

I don't think that they accounted for LeBron holding the entire market hostage to his decision. They probably believed, like most of us did, that the Miami opt outs would be quickly resolved to create cap space for Riley to work. In that scenario, Melo is the big fish and he makes his decision within the first the few days of the moratorium. If he picked Houston, they would have had several days to work out the necessary trades before the moratorium ended. If he picked some other team, Houston goes after some lower tier free agent.

It was a high risk/high reward strategy, but the market has evolved in just about the worst possible way for Houston and now they're scrambling.

RD2191
07-09-2014, 09:33 PM
Two things:

1) I am sure that before opting out Lebron told them he was not sure what he was doing. As long as he was honest, Wade had to make a decision and probably understood that Bron took less (and a lot of grief) to play with Wade and he helped him win again. It's a risk, but I doubt Bron completely killed him.

2) Assuming Bron is cold blooded, how sick would it be if he went really dark on his teammates, they opted out of money and then he waits more than 3 days to decide. Then Bosh keeps waiting, HOU loses the ability to sign Bosh (and keep Parsons) and then he announces he is leaving.
2. Damn, that really would be some cold blooded shit. The only reason I think he stays is because of his friendship with Wade. But hell, if he ditched his friends on the Cavs I could see him doing it again.

Tyrone Jenkins
07-09-2014, 09:35 PM
The Spurs should look into acquiring Shawn Marion w/ part of (or maybe all of) the MLE.

He's old but he's still a good defender with some position flexibility to the 4. He can be used to guard KD (while using Kawhi on Westbrook). When used as a stretch 4 vs. the Clippers, Trailblazers and Thunder, he would cause guys like Aldridge and Ibaka to defend out of the paint.

Most important, since playoffs are all about matchups, he would take a vital piece away from Dallas who was arguably the most difficult opponent last year in the playoffs.

SpursFan86
07-09-2014, 09:36 PM
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TheGoldStandard
07-09-2014, 09:37 PM
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Good for that dude.

BatManu20
07-09-2014, 09:39 PM
$6.5 mil/per? Too much.

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TheGoldStandard
07-09-2014, 09:40 PM
When Lebron was told that Bosh would sign with Houston if he didn't sign with Miami

“At the end of the day, tomorrow they have to wake up and have the same life that (they had) before they woke up today,” James said. “They got the same personal problems they had today. And I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.”

RD2191
07-09-2014, 09:41 PM
When Lebron was told that Bosh would sign with Houston if he didn't sign with Miami

“At the end of the day, tomorrow they have to wake up and have the same life that (they had) before they woke up today,” James said. “They got the same personal problems they had today. And I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.”
:lmao

Ice009
07-09-2014, 09:42 PM
When/where is that quote from?

Obi Juan Kenobi
07-09-2014, 09:43 PM
Just a tad too much for General Greivis...

Mel_13
07-09-2014, 09:44 PM
When/where is that quote from?

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/13/2220998/lebron-james-haters-miami-heat-dallas-mavericks-nba-finals-2011

Vic Petro
07-09-2014, 09:51 PM
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Ice009
07-09-2014, 09:54 PM
487065536011198464

Did Lebron even meet with any other teams? or was it just his agent that met with other teams?

spursparker9
07-09-2014, 09:55 PM
Did Lebron even meet with any other teams? or was it just his agent that met with other teams?

His agent.

AFBlue
07-09-2014, 09:56 PM
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He's going back to Miami. I just can't see him agreeing to a deal with another team while not directly meeting with them face-to-face.

Ice009
07-09-2014, 09:56 PM
His agent.

Ahh OK. Any idea which teams those were that his agent met with?

FireMicoHalili
07-09-2014, 10:06 PM
Free agent Anthony Tolliver has been in substantial conversations with six NBA teams – including the Los Angeles Clippers and Cleveland Cavaliers – as a stretch-forward addition, league sources told RealGM. Tolliver has also received interest from the Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Hornets among other organizations, sources said, and teams expect a possible signing next week. -RealGM

DPG21920
07-09-2014, 10:08 PM
How has Broussard not been fired? He doesn't have credible sources, he isn't charismatic on air and doesn't even write interesting opinion pieces. What a country.

TheGoldStandard
07-09-2014, 10:09 PM
How has Broussard not been fired? He doesn't have credible sources, he isn't charismatic on air and doesn't even write interesting opinion pieces. What a country.

Sucks a lot of dick

RD2191
07-09-2014, 10:13 PM
How has Broussard not been fired? He doesn't have credible sources, he isn't charismatic on air and doesn't even write interesting opinion pieces. What a country.

AFBlue
07-09-2014, 10:14 PM
How has Broussard not been fired? He doesn't have credible sources, he isn't charismatic on air and doesn't even write interesting opinion pieces. What a country.

Same network that employs Stephen A. Smith tbqh.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2014, 10:17 PM
He's going back to Miami. I just can't see him agreeing to a deal with another team while not directly meeting with them face-to-face.

He supposedly just met with Ilgauskas this weekend. It was first reported That gilbert, Z and Cavs GM flew to Miami, but it was confirm that only Z went down there. Considering he Lebron are close friends, that was a smart move on the Cavs part. Z posted a picture of him Lebron in Cavs uni shortly after arriving back in Cleveland on his fb page.

So Lebron more than likely met with only Z, who was the Cavs liaison in this whole ordeal.

LakerHater
07-09-2014, 10:56 PM
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xmas1997
07-09-2014, 10:59 PM
KSAT -TV sports reports that Melo is staying in New York for the max according to yahoo sports, but his agent is denying the report.

SpursFan86
07-09-2014, 10:59 PM
There are two ways to look at the "he's not meeting with any more teams" thing:

1) He's decided to re-sign with Miami.

2) He already has his mind made up to go to Cleveland, and probably had his decision even before meeting with Riley. The meeting with Riley could've just been him saying good bye and thanking Riley for everything.

Ron Swanson
07-09-2014, 11:03 PM
Well, FA can start signing their deals now.

T Park
07-09-2014, 11:33 PM
I expect the spurs to officially resign Boris and Patty at about 3:35 am central time.

2centsworth
07-09-2014, 11:34 PM
There are two ways to look at the "he's not meeting with any more teams" thing:

1) He's decided to re-sign with Miami.

2) He already has his mind made up to go to Cleveland, and probably had his decision even before meeting with Riley. The meeting with Riley could've just been him saying good bye and thanking Riley for everything.
That's exactly what I think happened. Can he really dick Cleveland like this twice?

Mugen
07-09-2014, 11:38 PM
Bron going to the Cavs, Mavs getting better, Rox maybe adding Bosh, etc. is all great for basketball tbh.

As long as OKC doesn't improve get better, I'm all in favor of West teams getting better and new blood in the East. I hoped Fat Melo would have gone to Chicago but it's obvious that LaLa wears the pants in that relationship and that nigga could care less about winning tbh.

Vic Petro
07-09-2014, 11:45 PM
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Robz4000
07-09-2014, 11:46 PM
Just need to hope Gasol goes to Chicago tbh. He's the missing piece for Meth.

Ron Swanson
07-09-2014, 11:47 PM
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TheGoldStandard
07-09-2014, 11:49 PM
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Lance on Chicago would be pretty funny. I doubt Rose finishes the season healthy.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2014, 11:49 PM
Rockets thinking they can win the west with no bench. :lol

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2014, 11:51 PM
Lance on Chicago would be pretty funny. I doubt Rose finishes the season healthy.

This would be awesome news. Means the Bulls will be out of the running for Gasol's services.

xmas1997
07-09-2014, 11:54 PM
This would be awesome news. Means the Bulls will be out of the running for Gasol's services.

But it still leaves N.Y. and Miami as well as Phoenix.
Long shot he stays in L.A.

SpursFan86
07-09-2014, 11:54 PM
If Bulls get Lance, that would mean Pau's suitors are down to LA, NY, OKC, and us. If he's trying to win, that basically narrows it down to us and OKC (assuming Melo doesn't go to LA, in which case Pau would probably end up staying).

Mugen
07-10-2014, 12:00 AM
Pau isn't coming to SA.

look_at_g_shred
07-10-2014, 12:00 AM
I'll take Jones tbh

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2014, 12:02 AM
But it still leaves N.Y. and Miami as well as Phoenix.
Long shot he stays in L.A.

NY can only offer the mini MLE. Miami just used theirs on McRob and if Lebron leaves, I hardly think he signs there for a bigger salary. He didn't even list the Suns as the teams he is considering at this point. With the Pop ext, like I said, I wouldnt be surprised if he did chose the Spurs at this point.

And reports came out that after meeting with brooks, OKC was a long shot. Not surprise at all.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:02 AM
Pau isn't coming to SA.

Oh it's definitely a long shot and I'm not getting my hopes up (at all). I wouldn't say it's a complete pipe dream, though.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2014, 12:03 AM
Pau isn't coming to SA.

I agree, I think he goes back to LA. But this puts the Spurs in the driving seat if he is willing to take the MLE.

Baam
07-10-2014, 12:05 AM
Would be a good time to go after Troy Daniels if they like him tbh :lol

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 12:06 AM
Pau isn't coming to SA.

probably not.....just looking at scenarios...I think Bosh's decision to stay in Miami or leave for Houston will play into whether Melo stays in N.Y., with Pau moving to join him and James's decision to stay or leave Miami....

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:07 AM
I wouldn't mind us going after Troy Daniels.

Kidd K
07-10-2014, 12:14 AM
Btw, what's the deadline for this year?

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 12:18 AM
Why do people think that Pau is more likely to go to NY if Melo stays there or to stay in LA if Melo goes there? NY can only offer the mini-MLE and LA with Melo means a huge pay cut for Pau.

It seems far more likely that he stays in LA if Melo signs elsewhere. Then LA can give him a lucrative 2 year contract (20-24M) that aligns with Kobe's deal. Both contracts fall off in 2016 so they can pursue KD and Pau becomes a trade chip to use before the 2015 trade deadline in a possible deal for Love.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:20 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-lebron-james-nba-free-agency-20140709,0,4109010.story

"Though the Bulls had yet to be told officially they're out of the Anthony sweepstakes, the New York Daily News reported Anthony will make his Knicks' announcement Thursday. That would intensify the Bulls' pursuit of Gasol, and league sources indicated the Bulls hope to pursue sign-and-trade options with the Lakers for him involving Carlos Boozer's expiring salary."

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 12:22 AM
If Pau goes to Chicago Thibs will retire him within 40 games.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:30 AM
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:lol

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 12:32 AM
Three years after breaking up a championship team, Cuban finally found a player to take his money.

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 12:45 AM
Why do people think that Pau is more likely to go to NY if Melo stays there or to stay in LA if Melo goes there? NY can only offer the mini-MLE and LA with Melo means a huge pay cut for Pau.

It seems far more likely that he stays in LA if Melo signs elsewhere. Then LA can give him a lucrative 2 year contract (20-24M) that aligns with Kobe's deal. Both contracts fall off in 2016 so they can pursue KD and Pau becomes a trade chip to use before the 2015 trade deadline in a possible deal for Love.

Pau wants to be on a contender and Pau has never been about just the money like Melo...he knows he could be an important piece for a team to contend, especially in the East...but he's also smart enough to realize that he's no longer the most important piece for possible title contenders...

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 12:56 AM
Pau wants to be on a contender and Pau has never been about just the money like Melo...he knows he could be an important piece for a team to contend, especially in the East...but he's also smart enough to realize that he's no longer the most important piece for possible title contenders...

So you think he'll take the MLE from OKC or the Spurs over 10M per year from the Lakers? We'll see in the next days, but I don't think he settles for the MLE until he exhausts every option for a contract that includes an eight figure salary.

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 12:59 AM
So you think he'll take the MLE from OKC or the Spurs over 10M per year from the Lakers? We'll see in the next days, but I don't think he settles for the MLE until he exhausts every option for a contract that includes an eight figure salary.

Don't forget that the 76er's are sitting on 30 milion in cap space and Jackson could sweeten the deal for them to take Stoudemire's lousy contract...melo would love for Lebron to join him in NY, but if not...Pau would be a nice consolation...

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 01:05 AM
Don't forget that the 76er's are sitting on 30 milion in cap space and Jackson could sweeten the deal for them to take Stoudemire's lousy contract...melo would love for Lebron to join him in NY, but if not...Pau would be a nice consolation...

How is that more of a winning situation than the Thunder or the Spurs, or even the Lakers? And you haven't answered the question. Do you think Pau will take the MLE if he can get an eight figure salary elsewhere?

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-10-2014, 01:09 AM
Would be hilarious is LeBron takes another week to decide and keep everyone hostages. Great times to be Spurs fan, can just lean back with a beer and enjoy the shambles.

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:10 AM
Do you think Pau will take the MLE if he can get an eight figure salary elsewhere?

No. I don't think Pau will play for the Spurs or Thunder..he is more likely to go to Chicago..

Obi Juan Kenobi
07-10-2014, 01:13 AM
How is that more of a winning situation than the Thunder or the Spurs, or even the Lakers? And you haven't answered the question. Do you think Pau will take the MLE if he can get an eight figure salary elsewhere?

According to Spotrac, Pau Gasol has earned $133,637,005 in his NBA career, with $57 million coming from his last contract with the Lakers that spanned 3 years along with earning $19,285,850 this past season...

With this in mind, is there really any way to determine if Pau is going to chase money or chase a championship with his free agency decision?

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:13 AM
How is that more of a winning situation than the Thunder or the Spurs, or even the Lakers?

the spurs don't repeat, and once tim moves on next year the spurs go into minor rebuilding mode......Pau won't go to OKC either even though they and the mavericks have in my belief the best chances of unseating the Spurs next year as Western conference champ..

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 01:14 AM
No. I don't think Pau will play for the Spurs or Thunder..he is more likely to go to Chicago..

Say Chicago goes in a different direction. Pau's choices are the OKC or the Spurs for MLE or the Lakers for 2yrs/20M. Which team does he choose?

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:16 AM
Say Chicago goes in a different direction. Pau's choices are the OKC or the Spurs for MLE or the Lakers for 2yrs/20M. Which team does he choose?

Given those choices he stays in LA, but Pau won't stay in LA....

Obi Juan Kenobi
07-10-2014, 01:18 AM
Say Chicago goes in a different direction. Pau's choices are the OKC or the Spurs for MLE or the Lakers for 2yrs/20M. Which team does he choose?

Sadly I think that Gasol is going to choose the money. If Gasol accepted the MLE he would be earning about a fourth of his past season's salary, taking a massive paycut from close to $20 million to slightly over $5 million. It is very difficult for me to see Gasol accepting such a drastic reduction in his salary...

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 01:18 AM
According to Spotrac, Pau Gasol has earned $133,637,005 in his NBA career, with $57 million coming from his last contract with the Lakers that spanned 3 years along with earning $19,285,850 this past season...

With this in mind, is there really any way to determine if Pau is going to chase money or chase a championship with his free agency decision?

I don't think any of us know much about Pau's priorities, except that the guy is from Barcelona, seems to enjoy life in LA, and reportedly asked Brooks about cultural diversity in OKC.

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:25 AM
Brooks about cultural diversity in OKC.

....Brooks is about all the diversity Pau needs to say heck no to OKC....

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:26 AM
Pau would work for three possible contenders, Dallas, nope.....OKC...nope....Chicago...maybe...

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:28 AM
...that said, if Jackson and NY can dump Stoudamire to Philly....anything is possible...

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:30 AM
Sure seems like Melo is going to stay in NY.....James is expected to announce his decision today....

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 01:32 AM
...that said, if Jackson and NY can dump Stoudamire to Philly....anything is possible...

If they dump Stoudamire and sign Melo to a max contract, that still leaves just the MLE for Pau.

Nbadan
07-10-2014, 01:39 AM
If they dump Stoudamire and sign Melo to a max contract, that still leaves just the MLE for Pau.

...for now....

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 01:43 AM
...for now....

You see a path for NY to bring back Melo for the max and still sign Pau to a contract well in excess of the MLE?

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 01:43 AM
You see a path for NY to bring back Melo for the max and still sign Pau to a contract well in excess of the MLE?

Everyone is lining up to take Bargnani off there hands lol

Vic Petro
07-10-2014, 01:45 AM
Let's not pretend the Knicks have any assets to entice anyone to take that Stoudemire contract. Iman Shumpert sucks.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 01:55 AM
Let's not pretend the Knicks have any assets to entice anyone to take that Stoudemire contract. Iman Shumpert sucks.

Lakers are going to do Phil a solid and take Bargnani off there hands.

Aztecfan03
07-10-2014, 02:24 AM
No. I don't think Pau will play for the Spurs or Thunder..he is more likely to go to Chicago..

Yes that would be ideal for him, but it won't be a possibility if they sign someone else to a big contract- hence the discussion about money or winning.

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07-10-2014, 07:06 AM
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Andthentherewas21
07-10-2014, 08:36 AM
Couple quick thoughts:

1. Pau isn't coming to SA. Not only would he be giving up more money than he could get from Chi/LA, he would also be coming into a place where he would have to accept a diminished role from what he has played his entire career whereas at least he would still be a starter in OKC. There is no way Pau starts next to Duncan for the Spurs since their PnR defense would be atrocious, and they would be redundant on offense (also there is 0% Tim is coming off the bench).

2. A max contract for Bosh in Houston doesn't make them better but it does make them top heavy. Sure it improves their starting line-up which would be as formidable as any in the NBA, but that is nearly 60 mil committed to 3 players (one of which only plays one side of the court). If they keep Parsons then it jumps to nearly 75 mil for 4 players. As Larry Coon pointed out, they would have to gut their roster to get it done leaving them with no bench. In order to move Lin they're going to need to give up future assets so its unlikely Hou would have future draft picks to fill out the roster in the next couple of years, plus if they want to retain Beverly he is due a payday in the next few years. As far as filling out the roster, you never know what type of FAs are willing to sign for the vet. min but I would think some would be weary of signing with a team that got bounced in the 1st round and whose major addition (Bosh) came with the subtraction of the rest of the team.

DesignatedT
07-10-2014, 08:42 AM
I think Pau will end up getting payed somehow. Whether it's going to a team that can offer more salary (Chicago, Miami?) or another contender finding a way to get him via S&T. I don't see him playing for the MLE anywhere unless there is absolutely no way a deal can be worked out. I think he definitely wants to get payed though.

vander
07-10-2014, 09:33 AM
If the Spurs worked a sign and trade for Pau. Giving up perhaps Daye Baynes Ayres and a pick. What would be the most Pau could get paid and have the trade work salary-wise?
Cause if the Lakers are willing to take Boozer...

Seventyniner
07-10-2014, 09:38 AM
You see a path for NY to bring back Melo for the max and still sign Pau to a contract well in excess of the MLE?

Sign-and-traded Pau for Bargnani and Shumpert plus maybe the rights to an international player or a pick? About all I can see and is still quite unlikely. Obv only happens if the Lakers completely strike out in free agency.

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 09:52 AM
Sign-and-traded Pau for Bargnani and Shumpert plus maybe the rights to an international player or a pick? About all I can see and is still quite unlikely. Obv only happens if the Lakers completely strike out in free agency.

Yeah, if the Lakers give up on making major improvements this summer, then that sort of S&T (Pau for a large expiring contract plus picks and/or rookie contracts) becomes a possibility. The NY one you mention or similar deals from Chicago (Boozer) or OKC (Perkins). The Spurs don't have an excess piece like that.

playbonner15
07-10-2014, 09:59 AM
Gasol to CHI makes a lot of sense

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2014, 10:16 AM
If the Spurs worked a sign and trade for Pau. Giving up perhaps Daye Baynes Ayres and a pick. What would be the most Pau could get paid and have the trade work salary-wise?
Cause if the Lakers are willing to take Boozer...

150% of the Salaries given up. 1.86mil for Ayres. 1.06 mil for Daye. Let's say Bonner resigns for 2mil 3 yr deal. That would be 8 mil worth of salaries. Best the Spurs can do with this trade is take Gasol on a 2 year sign and trade of 12mil. Not that much off from the MLE.

Spurs more than likely would have to include Joesph as well in the deal. That would allow the Spurs to give a 8 mil a year salary to Gasol. Maybe there was a reason the Spurs sign Cotton to a 2 year deal and picked up Daye's contract. But that's a lot for the Spurs to give up. I think it would just be for the MLE if they got Gasol.

This trade would be a helluva a lot better for the Lakers than getting Boozer. And the Bulls have to take back at least 13.44 mil in salaries to unload Boozer's contract since they were a Tax Team. It looks like the Bulls have turn their interest to Lance at this point, probably in a S&T with the Pacers

Amnestying Boozer would be asinine for the Bulls to do just to sign Gasol. Their stats have been basically the same for the past 3-4 years and Boozer is younger. You would be paying for Gasol technically 27mil next year.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2014, 10:43 AM
Lebron's need to milk attention from situations like this borders on Favreian.

Steve-O-Matic
07-10-2014, 10:50 AM
If the Spurs worked a sign and trade for Pau. Giving up perhaps Daye Baynes Ayres and a pick. What would be the most Pau could get paid and have the trade work salary-wise?
Cause if the Lakers are willing to take Boozer...

Umm, if the Lakers wanted to sign-and-trade Pau Gasol, they sure as hell wouldn't do it for Daye, Baynes, Ayres and a low draft pick. They would be able to do a lot, lot, LOT better than that. Get real.

ducks
07-10-2014, 11:12 AM
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Meanwhile, Trevor Ariza seems to be everyone's backup plan. Wizards want to re-sign him but SF $ is exploding & WAS won't go past $9M/yr

Russ
07-10-2014, 11:13 AM
Jonathan Feigen: If Rockets get Bosh and can do both in time, they'd match Parsons' offer sheet, per source. If don't get Bosh, tough, close call on Parsons. Twitter Jonathan Feigen

palangi
07-10-2014, 11:17 AM
Lebron's need to milk attention from situations like this borders on Favreian.
Him and melo both

xmas1997
07-10-2014, 11:21 AM
I just wish he would make his damn decision already and get on with it. It borders on being narcissistic if you ask me.

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:24 AM
Yeah, this is ridiculous.

Dverde
07-10-2014, 11:43 AM
Steve Blake signed a two year deal with Portland.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 11:47 AM
487274459028783104

lmbebo
07-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Steve Blake signed a two year deal with Portland.

Good signing for Portland. Strengthens there bench.

raybies
07-10-2014, 11:48 AM
I read in a report that Evan Turner's value might be minimum or near it, so my question is, would you sign Evan for the minimum or bi-annual exception if possible?

cjw
07-10-2014, 11:58 AM
Lakers are going to do Phil a solid and take Bargnani off there hands.

In a deal for Nash, why not? Perhaps they could shake something else away from the Knicks too though both players are pretty useless.

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 11:58 AM
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loveforthegame
07-10-2014, 12:00 PM
Solid signing by Portland.

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 12:02 PM
487274798780006401

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 12:03 PM
If I'm Dallas I hope that HOU matches & I go after Ariza for 3/30. I would also consider taking on Lin from Hou too (especially if it nets you a pick).

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 12:07 PM
If I'm Dallas I hope that HOU matches & I go after Ariza for 3/30. I would also consider taking on Lin from Hou too (especially if it nets you a pick).

Interesting that Dallas has not yet submitted the offer sheet. I suppose S&T options are being discussed. Just a really entertaining offseason if you're a Spurs fan.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:09 PM
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TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 12:30 PM
In a deal for Nash, why not? Perhaps they could shake something else away from the Knicks too though both players are pretty useless.

Knicks wouldn't want to take Nash back they're trying to free up salary. they would probably do some cash considerations but this at least gives LA a big.. LOL

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 12:31 PM
Interesting that Dallas has not yet submitted the offer sheet. I suppose S&T options are being discussed. Just a really entertaining offseason if you're a Spurs fan.

Yup. Otherwise it makes no sense not to put the squeeze play on. Maybe Morey cried and begged the Mavs not to be meanies & Cuban has a big heart?

cjw
07-10-2014, 12:36 PM
Knicks wouldn't want to take Nash back they're trying to free up salary. they would probably do some cash considerations but this at least gives LA a big.. LOL

Exactly, if you can consider Bargs a big when he's paint-a-phobic. A friend saw Nash walking around Tribeca today so thought he might enjoy avoiding the cross-country commute.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 12:37 PM
Yup. Otherwise it makes no sense not to put the squeeze play on. Maybe Morey cried and begged the Mavs not to be meanies & Cuban has a big heart?

Morey agreed to be on an episode of Shark Tank

Mel_13
07-10-2014, 12:40 PM
Yup. Otherwise it makes no sense not to put the squeeze play on. Maybe Morey cried and begged the Mavs not to be meanies & Cuban has a big heart?

It's getting confusing. Hard to tell if Cuban really wants Parsons at that price or just wants to make Houston choke on that contract.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 12:42 PM
It's getting confusing. Hard to tell if Cuban really wants Parsons at that price or just wants to make Houston choke on that contract.

Perhaps this is how Cubes entertains himself. Sticking it to other richies

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 12:45 PM
It's getting confusing. Hard to tell if Cuban really wants Parsons at that price or just wants to make Houston choke on that contract.

From downstairs:


Mavericks president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson, however, said Thursday that Dallas is open to discussing sign-and-trade scenarios with the Rockets. The Mavs have yet to officially submit the offer sheet but will do so before midnight if a deal can't be worked out with the Rockets.

"There's communication because there's sign-and-trade possibilities," Nelson said Thursday. "There's ways that both sides can win, so it's just an ongoing process."

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 12:46 PM
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487278049637838849

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 12:53 PM
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BlackSilver
07-10-2014, 01:02 PM
I thought Steve Blake was worth a little more than the BAE. Great pickup by Portland.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 01:03 PM
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LakerHater
07-10-2014, 01:08 PM
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SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Yeah, Woj reported that the Mavs/Rockets are discussing a S&T. Offer sheet hasn't been submitted yet so the whole 3-day deal hasn't started.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 01:13 PM
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Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 01:20 PM
:lol LeBron gives zero fucks about announcing a decision.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 01:21 PM
He doesn't want to be the bad guy, he wants Bosh to take the Houston deal and then he'll be okay with going to Cleveland.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2014, 01:22 PM
:lol LeBron gives zero fucks about announcing a decision.

Honestly, I think he makes it after the World Cup on Sunday. So 1 billion + people will know his decision this time around.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 01:23 PM
:lol LeBron gives zero fucks about announcing a decision.

I swear he's waiting until after the World Cup so he can have a complete monopoly over ESPN when he breaks the news. Wouldn't want to lose some attention to what's going on over in Brazil, would he?

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 01:24 PM
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TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 01:25 PM
I swear he's waiting until after the World Cup so he can have a complete monopoly over ESPN when he breaks the news. Wouldn't want to lose some attention to what's going on over in Brazil, would he?

The World Cup has taken a back seat to Lebron-gate on ESPN, they don't really give a shit now that USA is eliminated and the rest of the United States doesn't care.

Holden_Caulfield
07-10-2014, 01:30 PM
i cant wait until the lebron era is over. this shit is annoying af

loveforthegame
07-10-2014, 01:32 PM
i cant wait until the lebron era is over. this shit is annoying af

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 01:35 PM
This is the way of the NBA now guys, it's not going to stop until they allow teams to sign players to 10 year deals again.

cd021
07-10-2014, 01:35 PM
Perhaps this is how Cubes entertains himself. Sticking it to other richies
rich people humor, i hope to understand their ways one day:lol

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 02:04 PM
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LakerHater
07-10-2014, 02:07 PM
So a source says James is 100% goin to Cleveland!

Drom John
07-10-2014, 02:09 PM
Steve Blake tied Matt Bonner in WS. Alphabetically that puts Blake at #230 in the NBA.

Last year the #230 highest salary was Vitor Faverani $2,000,000.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 02:17 PM
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cjw
07-10-2014, 02:23 PM
487292574752047104

Maybe to prevent people from looting his house when he picks Miami?

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 02:24 PM
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DesignatedT
07-10-2014, 02:31 PM
Gosh this Lebron shit is so annoying.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2014, 02:31 PM
Sign you don't want any of the free agents that are out there: None of them are man enough to negotiate and pick their own team.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 02:33 PM
487317960235556864

Fuck this shit.

RD2191
07-10-2014, 02:37 PM
Fuck this diva, hope he has a career ender.

Spur|n|Austin
07-10-2014, 02:38 PM
:lol this nigha Lebron

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 02:40 PM
Quit being an attention whore and pick a fucking team. You're not winning another title regardless of team you choose.

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Why are people so mad at Lebron? Why is he forced to make announcement the first day he can sign a deal? The players got reamed in the last CBA and it's a massive decision. Is it partially his fault he gets attention? Sure. But the media plays a larger role.

Lebron can't seem to win. Do a decision at a set time/place - killed for it. Stay quiet and make your decision and don't set a time/place - killed for it. It's crazy.

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 02:42 PM
Why are people so mad at Lebron? Why is he forced to make announcement the first day he can sign a deal? The players got reamed in the last CBA and it's a massive decision. Is it partially his fault he gets attention? Sure. But the media plays a larger role.

Lebron can't seem to win. Do a decision at a set time/place - killed for it. Stay quiet and make your decision and don't set a time/place - killed for it. It's crazy.

You have a point. I guess I should be frustrated at the media for shoving it in our faces 24 hours a day.

This just in: LeBron took a dump. Did he choose Charmin or Cottonelle?

DesignatedT
07-10-2014, 02:43 PM
It's not necessarily Lebron it's his team. He's got a bunch of clowns running his show. Leaking info, leaking announcement times, it's like they do all this shit on purpose so hype the show.

It's been widely known that the guys he has around him are a bunch of amateurs.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 02:44 PM
Why are people so mad at Lebron? Why is he forced to make announcement the first day he can sign a deal? The players got reamed in the last CBA and it's a massive decision. Is it partially his fault he gets attention? Sure. But the media plays a larger role.

Lebron can't seem to win. Do a decision at a set time/place - killed for it. Stay quiet and make your decision and don't set a time/place - killed for it. It's crazy.

I'm not mad at LeBron. I'm mad at the fact that free agency is basically in a logjam until he makes his decision. I don't blame him for taking his time with this big of a decision...just annoying how we have to hear about it nonstop and how it's holding up all of these other possible free agent signings. All of these leaks and bullshit "news" from "sources" are starting to get old at this point.

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 02:45 PM
Also, he is the best in the world at what he does. Blame other teams and FA's for waiting for Lebron. Teams have made their beds (and players too). If I were a guy like Melo/Bosh, I would be actively trying to go to the teams I want and make my decisions to put myself and my team in the best spot.

Lebron gets blamed for what 30 teams do and other free agents.

Aztecfan03
07-10-2014, 02:45 PM
487317960235556864

Fuck this shit.

Is there a Sam Amick? or is that a fake Amico account?

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 02:46 PM
Is there a Sam Amick? or is that a fake Amico account?

They're two different people. Sam Amick, and Sam Amico. Kinda confusing huh?

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 02:47 PM
Amick > Amico

objective
07-10-2014, 02:49 PM
Amico is right there with Sheridan with credibility issues for me

Blizzardwizard
07-10-2014, 02:49 PM
LeBron is just waiting for Woj to tell him who he's signing for tbh.

look_at_g_shred
07-10-2014, 02:52 PM
LeBron is just waiting for Woj to tell him who he's signing for tbh.
HAHA GOOD ONE!

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 02:53 PM
lol trying to name a time, then hedging your bets :lol

It's unreal.

absoloot66
07-10-2014, 02:53 PM
LeBron is just waiting for Woj to tell him who he's signing for tbh.

Tree of WOJ:king

Obstructed_View
07-10-2014, 02:53 PM
Fuck this diva, hope he has a career ender.

You probably aren't the only one who considered the tasty irony if his knee came apart while he was playing pickup games today.

DPG21920
07-10-2014, 02:54 PM
You probably aren't the only one who considered the tasty irony if his knee came apart while he was playing pickup games today.

He would still get a max deal. Even if didn't, he'd still be filthy rich.

RD2191
07-10-2014, 02:57 PM
You probably aren't the only one who considered the tasty irony if his knee came apart while he was playing pickup games today.
:lol

Aztecfan03
07-10-2014, 02:57 PM
They're two different people. Sam Amick, and Sam Amico. Kinda confusing huh?

Just wasn't sure because of the fake woj and other fake accounts.

RD2191
07-10-2014, 03:00 PM
LeBron is a bitch. Talk to family? About what? You're the bread maker mother fucker, your "family" are all just leeches. The fuck you need to talk to them for. Damn, some niggas just born beta I guess.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 03:01 PM
487323378190413826

RC trolling dumbass "reporters"? :lol

Blizzardwizard
07-10-2014, 03:03 PM
HAHA GOOD ONE!

IKR :hat

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 03:03 PM
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look_at_g_shred
07-10-2014, 03:05 PM
Beno was essential for them in the playoffs against OKC. Good for him.

Seventyniner
07-10-2014, 03:09 PM
I want LeBron to just mindfuck everyone and wait until the end of August.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2014, 03:22 PM
487326014620831744

THE FIRST DOMINO HAS FALLEN

Mr. Body
07-10-2014, 03:22 PM
It's still surprising to me Beno Udrih is still in the league. Good for him, I guess.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2014, 03:24 PM
LeBron is a bitch. Talk to family? About what? You're the bread maker mother fucker, your "family" are all just leeches. The fuck you need to talk to them for. Damn, some niggas just born beta I guess.

Lamest use of family since Jordan retired to "spend time with family" (and was then on a bus in Birmingham five weeks later).

RD2191
07-10-2014, 03:29 PM
Lamest use of family since Jordan retired to "spend time with family" (and was then on a bus in Birmingham five weeks later).
:lol

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 03:34 PM
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rjv
07-10-2014, 03:36 PM
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the dominoes can start falling now...

rjv
07-10-2014, 03:38 PM
just heard on ESPN that lebron expected to take a dump at 4 PM CST

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 03:42 PM
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SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 03:45 PM
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Blizzardwizard
07-10-2014, 03:48 PM
I'd like to see Windhorst suplex Broussard through a table in the ESPN offices for the right to announce the decision first.

ceperez
07-10-2014, 03:52 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/10/5887321/lebron-james-cancels-akron-trip-brazil-decision-cavaliers-heat

Nate Silver breaks down the numbers... appears best place for Lebron to got to are either the Rockets or the Suns!

rjv
07-10-2014, 03:56 PM
particle physicists at the large hadron collider are waiting on grounbreaking announcement regarding the discovery of calabri-yau manifolds because they are waiting to see where lebron goes...

noles1983
07-10-2014, 03:57 PM
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am i the only one who finds this sad?

tdunk21
07-10-2014, 04:00 PM
am i the only one who finds this sad?

nope I do too.... I am from ohio and people are eagerly waiting for Lebron to sign with cavs...

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 04:02 PM
am i the only one who finds this sad?

No. I can't wait for LeBron to say he's going back to Miami.

"I've decided to re-sign with the Heat because you dumb asses wouldn't leave me alone."

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 04:49 PM
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jyra
07-10-2014, 04:59 PM
Interesting, so if they actually land Parsons they won't have the Bird Rights to Marion and Carter anymore.
Considering that they are bringing back Dirk at 10mil, Harris at 3mil that would leave Dallas just below the salary cap if they got Parsons. They would then only have the room exception and minimum contract offers left unless they dump other contracts.

I would actually prefer Marion to Gasol for the MLE.

elemento
07-10-2014, 05:11 PM
am i the only one who finds this sad?

No you're not alone. It's sad and pathetic.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 05:18 PM
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Richie
07-10-2014, 05:20 PM
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Marion would be great for 1 year as a backup for Kawhi

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 05:26 PM
This fatass Brian Windhorst said it's possible that Bosh doesn't even know about the Parsons offer sheet since he's in Africa right now on vacation...ignoring the fact that the ostrich-looking fucker posted a picture on instagram just hours ago.

God I don't understand how some people can be so stupid. Does he seriously think Bosh is out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere on a camel, with no access to internet? On the first day of free agency when LeBron still hasn't made a decision? Hell, I hope Bosh has clean water! Maybe we should also start worry about Bosh being attacked by ancient African tribes as well.

Obi Juan Kenobi
07-10-2014, 05:28 PM
This fatass Brian Windhorst said it's possible that Bosh doesn't even know about the Parsons offer sheet since he's in Africa right now on vacation...ignoring the fact that the ostrich-looking fucker posted a picture on instagram just hours ago.

God I don't understand how some people can be so stupid. Does he seriously think Bosh is out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere on a camel, with no access to internet? On the first day of free agency when LeBron still hasn't made a decision? Hell, I hope Bosh has clean water! Maybe we should also start worry about Bosh being attacked by ancient African tribes as well.

Yeah that is rather douchey of him...

cd98
07-10-2014, 05:29 PM
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I thought Sheridan already cracked the code of where Lebron was going.

Obi Juan Kenobi
07-10-2014, 05:31 PM
What so if LeBron decides to not leave Miami are they going to buy more of his jerseys just to burn them again?

cd98
07-10-2014, 05:40 PM
What so if LeBron decides to not leave Miami are they going to buy more of his jerseys just to burn them again?

If Lebron spurns them again, he won't have a house in Ohio anymore.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 05:56 PM
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dbestpro
07-10-2014, 06:00 PM
Lebron is going to Cleveland.


The Decision has been made, even though it hasn’t been made public by the man himself. LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a league source tells SheridanHoops.com. SheridanHoops
James met with Miami Heat president Pat Riley on Wednesday in Las Vegas to deliver the news, and Riley did his best to try to get James to reconsider, comparing the stability of the Heat organization to the relative instability of the Cavs, who have a meddling owner and have changed general managers and coaches several times in the past few years, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity. SheridanHoops

The meeting lasted about an hour, and James and his advisors then met for dinner. James’ stance did not change, according to the source, but no public pronouncements were made. An official announcement will eventually be made on www.lebronjames.com, as I first reported Tuesday. The news should become official before James leaves Saturday for the World Cup final in Brazil. SheridanHoops
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eTTIZVH5.dpuf

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 06:14 PM
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xmas1997
07-10-2014, 06:16 PM
Lebron is going to Cleveland.


The Decision has been made, even though it hasn’t been made public by the man himself. LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a league source tells SheridanHoops.com. SheridanHoops
James met with Miami Heat president Pat Riley on Wednesday in Las Vegas to deliver the news, and Riley did his best to try to get James to reconsider, comparing the stability of the Heat organization to the relative instability of the Cavs, who have a meddling owner and have changed general managers and coaches several times in the past few years, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity. SheridanHoops

The meeting lasted about an hour, and James and his advisors then met for dinner. James’ stance did not change, according to the source, but no public pronouncements were made. An official announcement will eventually be made on www.lebronjames.com, as I first reported Tuesday. The news should become official before James leaves Saturday for the World Cup final in Brazil. SheridanHoops
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eTTIZVH5.dpuf

Another false leak to generate interest?

jermaine
07-10-2014, 06:21 PM
Vince still has it a lil. Hope the Spurs take a peak at him!

ace3g
07-10-2014, 06:31 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473988243696791552/HbZq2r8__normal.jpeg
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Suns will re-sign forward PJ Tucker to a three-year, $16.5 million deal, a source told Yahoo.

FireMicoHalili
07-10-2014, 06:36 PM
Does anyone have Chris Sheridan's track record of hits and misses? I mean if he messes this up there's one less sports writer we have to worry about.

spurraider21
07-10-2014, 06:42 PM
too much for Tucker...

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 06:52 PM
Been hearing that Chicago is getting close to a deal with Mirotic...you'd have to think that would take them out of the Pau race, no? Although a Noah/Pau/Taj Gibson/Mirotic big rotation would be pretty damn good.

I honestly think it'll come down to LA or us, with LA being the clear favorites since they can offer far more money + Kobe/Pau's relationship.

Also:

487383030986592256

Big P
07-10-2014, 06:54 PM
Anthony Morrow would be nice for us at the BAE, can't have too many shooters...okc was interested in him as well.

Shastafarian
07-10-2014, 07:01 PM
That Tucker deal is fully guaranteed too. Don't get it.

ace3g
07-10-2014, 07:20 PM
Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)Hearing the Stephen A. Smith report is accurate. Carmelo may have been leaning elsewhere, but regained interest in #Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls).


Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)#Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls) trying to figure out how to close. If Carmelo has been agonizing for more than a week, who knows where this will go.


Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)Don't think there's been any sign-and-trade talks. #Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls) need Carmelo to commit first, which could get that ball rolling.

LakerHater
07-10-2014, 07:20 PM
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Russ
07-10-2014, 07:21 PM
Lebron is going to Cleveland.


The Decision has been made, even though it hasn’t been made public by the man himself. LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a league source tells SheridanHoops.com. SheridanHoops
James met with Miami Heat president Pat Riley on Wednesday in Las Vegas to deliver the news, and Riley did his best to try to get James to reconsider, comparing the stability of the Heat organization to the relative instability of the Cavs, who have a meddling owner and have changed general managers and coaches several times in the past few years, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity. SheridanHoops

The meeting lasted about an hour, and James and his advisors then met for dinner. James’ stance did not change, according to the source, but no public pronouncements were made. An official announcement will eventually be made on www.lebronjames.com, as I first reported Tuesday. The news should become official before James leaves Saturday for the World Cup final in Brazil. SheridanHoops
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eTTIZVH5.dpuf

Apparently, Sheridan himself backed off on that stance in a later radio interview.

Shastafarian
07-10-2014, 07:24 PM
Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)Hearing the Stephen A. Smith report is accurate. Carmelo may have been leaning elsewhere, but regained interest in #Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls).


Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)#Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls) trying to figure out how to close. If Carmelo has been agonizing for more than a week, who knows where this will go.


Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls
(https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls)Don't think there's been any sign-and-trade talks. #Bulls (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bulls) need Carmelo to commit first, which could get that ball rolling.









Melo to the Bulls means Gasol has one fewer team to choose from right?

Aztecfan03
07-10-2014, 07:33 PM
Melo to the Bulls means Gasol has one fewer team to choose from right?

Wasn't there some talk of them joining in NY? so possibly two. Unless Pau likes the idea of playing under Phil and Fisher without Melo.

Kindergarten Cop
07-10-2014, 07:39 PM
Apparently, Sheridan himself backed off on that stance in a later radio interview.

He was on with Cowherd this morning and said that he stands wholeheartedly behind his report as 100% accurate and LeBron is going to Cleveland. He was EXTREMELY defensive and quite arrogant, but he didn't waiver at all from his initial report. Perhaps he did much later in the day, but not when I heard him.

Shastafarian
07-10-2014, 07:39 PM
Wasn't there some talk of them joining in NY? so possibly two. Unless Pau likes the idea of playing under Phil and Fisher without Melo.
NY has Melo's bird rights don't they? And with that NY could only offer a little over $3 mil to Pau. Chicago doesn't have that luxury I don't think. If they sign Melo I don't think they can offer Pau anything. Need some input from the smarter people here though. Not sure which exceptions Chi has left.

Kindergarten Cop
07-10-2014, 07:49 PM
NY has Melo's bird rights don't they? And with that NY could only offer a little over $3 mil to Pau. Chicago doesn't have that luxury I don't think. If they sign Melo I don't think they can offer Pau anything. Need some input from the smarter people here though. Not sure which exceptions Chi has left.

If they are signing Melo using cap space, they won't have the MLE or BAE at there disposal. I suppose Gasol would have to settle for the minimum.

EDIT: Gasol was always mentioned as a "plan B" in Chicago if they didn't get Melo. I have not heard ANY SUGGESTIONS that Chicago could get them both.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 07:53 PM
I wonder if Melo knows he will have to play 40 minutes a game every game in Chicago

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2014, 08:00 PM
NY has Melo's bird rights don't they? And with that NY could only offer a little over $3 mil to Pau. Chicago doesn't have that luxury I don't think. If they sign Melo I don't think they can offer Pau anything. Need some input from the smarter people here though. Not sure which exceptions Chi has left.

Bulls were in the tax level last year and only have the Mini MLE as well. Signing Gasol was all predicated on Boozer getting amnestied and them making a few more moves. Even trading Boozer, the Bulls at the very least had to take back 13.4 mil in a trade. Bulls don't have too many expendable assets which is why most of these moves have been pipe dreams at this point.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 08:02 PM
I wonder if Melo knows he will have to play 40 minutes a game every game in Chicago

He already led the league last year averaging nearly 40 minutes per game.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 08:05 PM
He already led the league last year averaging nearly 40 minutes per game.

That's playing one way, when Thibs asks him to play defense he will ask if that's an expansion team

cd021
07-10-2014, 08:48 PM
Melo to the Bulls means Gasol has one fewer team to choose from right?

I think it depends on how much Melo is willing to sign for and whether they would have to do a sign and trade to N.Y for Gibson to free up space. I think its less likely if he does decide on the Bulls.

cd021
07-10-2014, 08:49 PM
That's playing one way, when Thibs asks him to play defense he will ask if that's an expansion team


:lmao:lmao

Classic

cd021
07-10-2014, 08:55 PM
If they are signing Melo using cap space, they won't have the MLE or BAE at there disposal. I suppose Gasol would have to settle for the minimum.

EDIT: Gasol was always mentioned as a "plan B" in Chicago if they didn't get Melo. I have not heard ANY SUGGESTIONS that Chicago could get them both.

I also heard they may pursue Lan Stephenson or maybe even Trevor Ariza as well (I haven't heard his name specifically but less of a uncertainty than Lan) Gasol would be a good fit but kind of a let down if they lose out on Melo, amnesty Boozer and then sign Gasol, Mirotic, and McDermott. They'd still be better but still a bit of a let down.

They could move Boozer to L.A. for Gasol (someone mentioned this earlier on the Gasol thread). They'd get Gasol and not have to pay Boozer off the books. They'd probably need to throw in a pick or maybe someone like Tony Snell. I could see Gasol on a 3 years/ 24 million deal.

Plum Island
07-10-2014, 09:29 PM
am i the only one who finds this sad?
And weird.

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 09:50 PM
487422781660073984

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 10:32 PM
487438414640185345

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 10:43 PM
487429787288223744

Vic Petro
07-10-2014, 11:05 PM
487447368615223296

Cloud786
07-10-2014, 11:07 PM
487447789476261889

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:12 PM
487447368615223296


Shit is gonna burn in Ohio soon.

Aztecfan03
07-10-2014, 11:14 PM
NY has Melo's bird rights don't they? And with that NY could only offer a little over $3 mil to Pau. Chicago doesn't have that luxury I don't think. If they sign Melo I don't think they can offer Pau anything. Need some input from the smarter people here though. Not sure which exceptions Chi has left.

I knew they couldn't join each other in Chicago.

spursparker9
07-10-2014, 11:14 PM
lol Cavs owner can start writiing his letter 2.0 now just in case first.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 11:14 PM
It would be sweet if there was a double cross about to go down and Bobby Ramos was there to ask questions

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:15 PM
It would be sweet if there was a double cross about to go down and Bobby Ramos was there to ask questions

:lmao

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 11:16 PM
:lmao

Right after Bron announces he is going to Cleveland


Ramos: So Dwyane are you going to have another Lack Luster season where you miss 30+ games?

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:20 PM
That guy is media gold.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 11:21 PM
Clevelands great hope is that Hoyer turns out to be a good quarterback

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 11:26 PM
487449683330338816

This dude is a troll and is eating this shit up lmao. Even threw in the ":)" for fucks sake.

TheGoldStandard
07-10-2014, 11:28 PM
487449683330338816

This dude is a troll and is eating this shit up lmao. Even threw in the ":)" for fucks sake.

What a turd, lol.. the realcavfans forum is bitching about him right now

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:31 PM
What an ass.

SpursFan86
07-10-2014, 11:33 PM
Mickey Arison (Heat owner) just favorited that tweet. LeBron headed back to Miami?

Ron Swanson
07-10-2014, 11:34 PM
487452532554215424

32fastest
07-11-2014, 12:14 AM
Maybe he wants to tell Riley in person before he announces on TV that he's taking his talents to Cleveland.

spursparker9
07-11-2014, 12:17 AM
487458967421849600

marinoman
07-11-2014, 12:23 AM
not news but lulz
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/120/007/chris-broussard3_original.jpg?1381508528

spursparker9
07-11-2014, 12:30 AM
487467555322200064

Kineto
07-11-2014, 03:17 AM
Bulls were in the tax level last year and only have the Mini MLE as well. Signing Gasol was all predicated on Boozer getting amnestied and them making a few more moves. Even trading Boozer, the Bulls at the very least had to take back 13.4 mil in a trade. Bulls don't have too many expendable assets which is why most of these moves have been pipe dreams at this point.

No, bulls avoid the tax last year (they dump Dieng for that reason) http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/index.jsp

21209
07-11-2014, 05:32 AM
When all is said and done, all the major FA's holding out will all re-sign with their former teams.

It'll be like the first round of the playoffs where quite a few upsets looked likely only to have the favorites win the majority of the series.

smaka
07-11-2014, 06:27 AM
487364336591990785
I seriously don't get Suns' philosophy. So many guards, why?

Texas_Ranger
07-11-2014, 06:42 AM
I seriously don't get Suns' philosophy. So many guards, why?

perhaps they won't sign Bledsoe who is better than Thomas or they trade Dragic to Indy.

smaka
07-11-2014, 06:51 AM
perhaps they won't sign Bledsoe who is better than Thomas or they trade Dragic to Indy.
They have a thing for undersized guards. Bledsoe, Smith, now Thomas. Lol

xmas1997
07-11-2014, 07:04 AM
In other news:

The Spurs quietly and efficiently go about their business signing all their people as iif the rest of the league does not exist.

While the rest of the NBA waits on pins and needles biting their nails waiting for James and Anthony to make their decisions.

San Antonio FO was asked about James and replied, " James who? Was he the cramps guy we destroyed on our way to the 2014 championship?"

mudyez
07-11-2014, 07:06 AM
I'm torn apart.

Would realy like to see Bron back in Cleveland for several reasons (will Miamians burn LeBron jerseys?, Dan Gilbert, new Uncle Drew material,...) but the smart Spurs fan in me tells me, that a return to Miami is best for our repeat chances. I don't think either team (Miami with an even more broken down Wade / Cleveland without any chemistry and possibly no defense with Irvin/Love) can beat the team coming out of the West, but if Bron leaves, Bosh will go to Houston, making it even harder to come out of the superior conference.

spursparker9
07-11-2014, 07:55 AM
Sources: Letter still an issue for LeBron (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11201955/dan-gilbert-letter-issue-lebron-james)

"If it wasn't for that letter, this would've been done awhile ago," one source said.

ceperez
07-11-2014, 08:03 AM
I'm torn apart.

Would realy like to see Bron back in Cleveland for several reasons (will Miamians burn LeBron jerseys?, Dan Gilbert, new Uncle Drew material,...) but the smart Spurs fan in me tells me, that a return to Miami is best for our repeat chances. I don't think either team (Miami with an even more broken down Wade / Cleveland without any chemistry and possibly no defense with Irvin/Love) can beat the team coming out of the West, but if Bron leaves, Bosh will go to Houston, making it even harder to come out of the superior conference.

The Mavs already put the squeeze on the Rockets. Parsons' future is on the block. Parson's is the heart and soul of the Rockets, take him out and they don't have any real leadership.

TheCerebral1
07-11-2014, 08:04 AM
I'm honestly shocked that Monroe hasn't gotten an offer sheet yet. Along with Stephenson. No offense to Hayward and Parsons, but these two guys are better than both. Crazy offseason.

spursparker9
07-11-2014, 08:08 AM
I'm honestly shocked that Monroe hasn't gotten an offer sheet yet. Along with Stephenson. No offense to Hayward and Parsons, but these two guys are better than both. Crazy offseason.

would be hard to tell who is the better player among Hayward, Parsons and Stephenson tbh.

spursparker9
07-11-2014, 08:46 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsQ81J4CEAIo6Ys.jpg

LeBron's block in Akron, 7:37 a.m. local time.

tdunk21
07-11-2014, 08:46 AM
According to Sportando.com, Slovenian center Erazem Lorbek and FC Barcelona are in the process of a contract buyout (http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/spain/126716/fc-barcelona-negotiating-with-erazem-lorbek-to-part-ways.html) with Lorbek entering the final year of his contract.
Though he was originally drafted by the Indiana Pacers, Lorbek’s draft rights are held by the San Antonio Spurs, as they acquired Lorbek’s rights in the draft night trade for Kawhi Leonard, when the Spurs sent George Hill to the Indiana Pacers in 2011.

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-lorbek-fc-barcelona-discussing-contract-buyout.html

xmas1997
07-11-2014, 09:37 AM
In further news:

The Spurs FO, to not be outdone by the league and get in on the James sweepstakes action, have offered James their full MLE, but on the condition that he first plays in their summer league and of course makes the team.

The FO, asked by reporters, replied, "This James fellow seems to have a history of cramps so we are doing our due diligence in exploring the possibilities of this mystery player that everyone else is so enamored with and making him a "make good" offer. We have good players at his position already, so it is highly doubtful he would be good enough to make our team, but anything is possible."