Official 2014 Free Agency Thread

[AFBlue]

Lorbek for BAE?

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 2m

Dwyane Wade left cross-country flight with LeBron James to Miami still unsure of which way James is leaning, sources tell Yahoo Sports.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Lorbek for BAE?

If only this was 2012. Lorbek has clearly regressed since the Spurs last had a lot of interest in him. It is obvious why Barcelona is cutting him. Makes no sense to take him now.

[jyra]

Lorbek for BAE?

Funny that you are mentioning him. It seems that he will be bought out of his current contract (http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/spain/126716/fc-barcelona-negotiating-with-erazem-lorbek-to-part-ways.html). His play must have declined quite a bit in the last couple of years.

[AFBlue]

He's always played with cement shoes, but did his shooting and feel for the game regress that much? Interesting.

[SpursFan86]

I'd much rather keep Baynes over Lorbek.

[AFBlue]

The comp I come up with at this point in his career is Oberto. Is that fair to either player? Would he be valuable in a lesser role?

[AFBlue]

I'd much rather keep Baynes over Lorbek.

Wouldn't it really be Lorbek over Bonner?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He's always played with cement shoes, but did his shooting and feel for the game regress that much? Interesting.

Got paid and got lazy. Spurs should pass. Rather them bring over Bertans to start grooming or keep Bonner for another year.

[spursparker9]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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No its not. They don't want to pay the tax next year and they are out of the Gasol running, so that extra mil that they have in the trade exception over the MLE doesn't mean nothing to do them at this point. They have the MLE and BAE and if they use both they will be just shy of the Luxury Tax.

[ducks]

Sources: Letter still an issue for LeBron (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11201955/dan-gilbert-letter-issue-lebron-james)

"If it wasn't for that letter, this would've been done awhile ago," one source said.
what a baby
ticked at owner of heat
ticked at owner of cav
sun bound?

[spursparker9]

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[cd98]

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LeBron's block in Akron, 7:37 a.m. local time.
My guess is that Lebron already decided to resign with the Heat on a short term deal, but the media overreported his interest in Cleveland, and now he's got to space out his public statements to walk back the Cleveland fan expectations before he gets condemned for spurning them twice. And when you have that many pissed off fans so close to your house, you got to be worried about what they are going to do when you break their hearts a second time.

[cd98]

Lebron is going to Miami on a short term deal and the walk back started last night when the media leaked a "Lebron still mad about Dan Gilbert's letter" message. At this point, I don't think he cares much about the letter. If he was ever serious about going to Cleveland in the last few weeks, then the letter, which has been up for several years, has not really influenced his decision. But it's a great way to shift the blame to Gilbert when he resigns with Miami.

[ironman2886]

Hey Lebron!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9acsnHzJd1qasdemo1_r1_500.gif

[LakerHater]

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[spursparker9]

Too bad for Miami and Pat Riley. :lol

[spursparker9]

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[spursparker9]

Man, who knew that chris sheridan guy was right. lol he even bet his career on it

[LakerHater]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Bosh to Houston, makes things a little tougher

[crc21209]

Damn Mickey Arison works fast :lol

[Mel_13]

Good. Now all the lesser dominoes can start to fall. Melo and Bosh are on the clock.

Will be interesting to see if Pat Riley takes care of DWade.

[spursparker9]

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[spursparker9]

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[Seventyniner]

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He's not excited for LeBron though :lol

[spursparker9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84QxVJd0tI

This is the official song for LeBron for now.

[Obstructed_View]

Gee, funny how winning the lottery twice in a row can make you homesick.

[TheGoldStandard]

McBob and Granger rescind there deal

[spursparker9]

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[spursparker9]

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[crc21209]

:lol At this fucking tribute to the city of Cleveland right now on ESPN narrated by that guy who used to host First Take..:cry :cry

[spursparker9]

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[crc21209]

Marc Stein just said that Houston is expecting Bosh to commit to them now..

[Drom John]

This is the official song for LeBron for now.

Wrong. This is the official song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgWRpP8-Pn4

[TheGoldStandard]

Depends on Riley throwing cash at Bosh and wade or dumping them.

[loveforthegame]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234220/Hawks-Waive-John-Salmons


The Atlanta Hawks requested waivers on guard/forward John Salmons on Thursday.

Salmons was acquired, along with a 2015 second round draft pick, from the Toronto Raptors on June 30 in exchange for Lou Williams and the draft rights to Lucas Nogueira.

[Ron Swanson]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Melo will decide by the afternoon, bosh deal getting worked, Miami in rebuild, wade probably staying with the sinking ship but could go elsewhere now the off-season gets better

[Ron Swanson]

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[crc21209]

Fucking Rockets...:td

[crc21209]

Wait a second...did this guy on ESPN just say that the Cavs are now favored in Vegas ahead of the Spurs to win the title? Whaaaat?

[spursparker9]

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[objective]

I hope bosh somehow stays in Miami. Please lord, no bosh in Houston

[Holden_Caulfield]

the repeat is ours :cry

[SpursFan86]

Wait a second...did this guy on ESPN just say that the Cavs are now favored in Vegas ahead of the Spurs to win the title? Whaaaat?

They play in the East. Who are they going to have to go through that will compare to OKC/Houston/LAC/Golden State/Dallas/Portland/etc?

[crc21209]

So Bill Livingston from the Cleveland Plain Dealer just called LeBron the best player of all time :lol. I wonder what he would be saying if LeBron chose Miami?

[RD2191]

Rockets ain't shit. They can't and will not beat the Spurs if they meet in the playoffs. We just took down LeBron, Bosh, and Wade. Harden, Howard, and Bosh are a non issue.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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They can't until they trade Linn and gut over half their current roster. Philly is going to ask for Beverly, Linn and two 1st rounders. Houston will be over tax and only five players under contract. Morey is killing that team for next year. Like I said, Cuban shafted the Rockets either way they went. I am glad they are matching Parsons, means the Spurs don't have to worry about the Mavs next year.

Dwight Howard $21,436,271
James Harden $14,728,844
Omer Asik $8,374,646
Jeremy Lin $8,374,646
Chandler Parsons $2,875,130
Terrence Jones $1,618,680
Donatas Motiejunas $1,483,920
Josh Powell $1,310,286
Omri Casspi $1,063,384
Troy Daniels $1,016,482
Patrick Beverley $915,243
Isaiah Canaan $816,482
Robert Covington $816,482
Total salaries: $40,658,925

[Obstructed_View]

Wait a second...did this guy on ESPN just say that the Cavs are now favored in Vegas ahead of the Spurs to win the title? Whaaaat?

The lines are set by the number of bettors. The hysterical money is calling their bookies now.

[ceperez]

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If the Rockets get Bosh and Parsons, they'll be doomed financially for at least 3 years. Zero bench.

The Spurs' Foreign Legion will demolish their bench.

[spursparker9]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If the Rockets get Bosh and Parsons, they'll be doomed financially for at least 3 years. Zero bench.

The Spurs' Foreign Legion will demolish their bench.

It will be Blazers series all over again. Great staring 5, zero bench.

[TheGoldStandard]

Montejunas is a steal for whoever gets him

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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Best news, b/c Parson to Mavs would have put them close to OKC level in the competition bracket with the Spurs.

[objective]

Except one thing Morey has been good at is his picking of minimum contract talent. He's been really good at it. Much better than first round picks.

[toki9]

So if Bosh signs with Houston and Houston matches Parsons, then they'll have more than $70 MM (Not sure what Bosh's first year number is, just that it's $88MM over 4 years) tied up on 4 players. So they're going to sign 9 players (at least) with the remaining $5-$7MM or pay the tax?

[Mel_13]

If Houston gives Bosh the max and keeps Parsons, their top 4 players will make 73M next season. Those 4 plus a bunch of minimum contract players.

[crc21209]

:lol Morey. And yet ESPN is pushing for Morey to be named GM of the year soon because he's landed Harden, Howard, and if it happens...Bosh in 3 straight years. Yet they won't talk about all the damn money this guy is throwing around at these overrated fucks..

[TheGoldStandard]

Melo is going to choose Chicago

[Mel_13]

:lol Morey. And yet ESPN is pushing for Morey to be named GM of the year soon because he's landed Harden, Howard, and if it happens...Bosh in 3 straight years. Yet they won't talk about all the damn money this guy is throwing around at these overrated fucks..

Houston can win the offseason for the third straight season. Meanwhile, they've won one playoff series in 17 years.

[TheGoldStandard]

Houston can win the offseason for the third straight season. Meanwhile, they've won one playoff series in 17 years.

As long as Big Kev is there that is where they will stand.

[RD2191]

Houston can win the offseason for the third straight season. Meanwhile, they've won one playoff series in 17 years.
Mel 13 going in raw.

[spursparker9]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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Riding coat tails

[crc21209]

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Yeah of course he's fucking intrigued, the best player in the world just went to Cleveland. Love isnt a big top dog on a team who can win a title, he needs LeBron to win a title..

[Mel_13]

And so much for Phil's fantasy of bringing LeBron to the Knicks. I doubt PJ makes it even halfway through that 5 year deal before he takes a buyout and heads back to LA.

[benstanfield]

So should the Spurs try to cash in if Morey firesales the whole roster for Bosh? jones is intriguing, maybe Beverley or Casspi?

[Spursfanfromafar]

If Houston gives Bosh the max and keeps Parsons, their top 4 players will make 73M next season. Those 4 plus a bunch of minimum contract players.

Actually Bosh will be their best player. He has been very underrated. Howard is not mentally tough; Harden and Parsons are one-way players and Parsons doesn't deserve even 2/3rds of the money he has been promised if you ask me.

But Bosh will make them a contender. His key is his P&R & help defense in a P&R league. Houston's defense will be far better plus he will spread the floor and hit mid-rangers and occasional three pointers. Interestingly, Houston did not have a mid range shooter last season.

But even if one of Harden, Howard, Bosh is injured for even a bit in the playoffs, they will be toast. (Unless Morey does a Buford and gets some surprise FAs for the minimum).

[crc21209]

Las Vegas odds to win the title:

Cavs- 3/1
Spurs- 4/1
Thunder- 4/1
Bulls- 7/1
Rockets- 12/1

[crc21209]

Actually Bosh will be their best player. He has been very underrated. Howard is not mentally tough; Harden and Parsons are one-way players and Parsons doesn't deserve even 2/3rds of the money he has been promised if you ask me.

But Bosh will make them a contender. His key is his P&R & help defense in a P&R league. Houston's defense will be far better plus he will spread the floor and hit mid-rangers and occasional three pointers. Interestingly, Houston did not have a mid range shooter last season.

But even if one of Harden, Howard, Bosh is injured for even a bit in the playoffs, they will be toast. (Unless Morey does a Buford and gets some surprise FAs for the minimum).

Too bad McHale is still the coach :lol

[slick'81]

Should of jumped on cavs bandwagon earlier in Vegas lol

[toki9]

But even if one of Harden, Howard, Bosh is injured for even a bit in the playoffs, they will be toast. (Unless Morey does a Buford and gets some surprise FAs for the minimum).

That's certainly a big issue, but there's also the 82-game load that the top-4 players will have to carry...can these 4-guys really get through that unscathed and be primed for the playoffs?

[TheGoldStandard]

Bosh was made accountable for his defense because of Spo' and Lebron, he had to push himself. In Houston he will be allowed to slack off and chill which is what he wants to do while collecting checks.

[toki9]

By the way, LeBron's decision means D-Wade walked away from $41.5MM of guaranteed money for no good reason...that's brutal...

[TheGoldStandard]

By the way, LeBron's decision means D-Wade walked away from $41.5MM of guaranteed money for no good reason...that's brutal...

Miami will probably give it to him anyway. They're in rebuild mode.

[Bartleby]

Las Vegas odds to win the title:

Cavs- 3/1
Spurs- 4/1
Thunder- 4/1
Bulls- 7/1
Rockets- 12/1

Cavs were 60/1 not long ago. Some Cavs homers gonna make bank if they win.

[hsxvvd]

And so much for Phil's fantasy of bringing LeBron to the Knicks. I doubt PJ makes it even halfway through that 5 year deal before he takes a buyout and heads back to LA.

I wouldn't be suprised if he was on the phone now to Gilbert... "please can I coach.... look at my rings. ... please"

[crc21209]

Broussard is saying the first offer to Minnesota for Love from Cleveland is Waiters, Bennett, and a 1st round pick. :lol Cleveland. That shit isnt going to get it done..

[slick'81]

Any news on pau

[Ron Swanson]

Broussard is saying the first offer to Minnesota for Love from Cleveland is Waiters, Bennett, and a 1st round pick. :lol Cleveland. That shit isnt going to get it done..

If Minnesota takes that deal, they need to be removed from the league.

[Chinook]

Houston just needs to let Parsons do. Their salaries just aren't sustainable. Morey needs to cut his losses.

And Dallas is not a threat now even with Parsons unless Pop acts foolish again by putting Leonard on Ellis and Green on Parsons.

[Ron Swanson]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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He's going to Chicago and realistically since the East just imploded they could make the ECF

[SpursFan86]

I hope he goes to Chicago. LeBron needs a challenge.

[Andthentherewas21]

Yeah of course he's fucking intrigued, the best player in the world just went to Cleveland. Love isnt a big top dog on a team who can win a title, he needs LeBron to win a title..

Love's not a top dog on a team who can get into the playoffs

[spursparker9]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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I called that shit, it makes the most sense

[Obstructed_View]

If any west team takes Lin in order to facilitate Bosh going to Houston, they will probably be investigated.

[timtonymanu]

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Would have made sense to keep D'Antoni.

:lmao Lakers

[spursparker9]

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:lol expecting T-Wolves to accept the deal with such offer?

[slick'81]

Cavs opening with the bs package

[ceperez]

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Intersting that the Bulls are in play again for Carmelo.

So will Pau wait till Carmelo decides what he wants to do with his life, or does he become pro-active and sign with the best deal in town... the Spurs.

[TheGoldStandard]

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:lol expecting T-Wolves to accept the deal with such offer?

Nah, it's Wiggins or nothing and Flip is a joke or a pres and coach so he'll end up with nothing.

[TheGoldStandard]

Intersting that the Bulls are in play again for Carmelo.

So will Pau wait till Carmelo decides what he wants to do with his life, or does he become pro-active and sign with the best deal in town... the Spurs.

Melo realizes that the journey to a finals is much easier with the Heat dismantled and Chicago shores up the defense that he doesnt have in NY and his scoring helps them get over the fact that they suck offensively in chicago. Pau will wait for Chicago to make the deal or not and then decide.

[tholdren]

If Minnesota takes that deal, they need to be removed from the league.
why? He's going to walk if he doesnt get traded. what is their to lose for Minn?

[crc21209]

Fucking Lakers. Idiots....:lol

[FlAVaK]

why? He's going to walk if he doesnt get traded. what is their to lose for Minn?

Trade him somewhere else for better players and unload martin, idiot.

[TheGoldStandard]

Fucking Lakers. Idiots....:lol

They weren't going to do anything this season anyway, why not sell more jerseys to the asian market.

[spursparker9]

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:lol Miami

it never rain but pour

[Obstructed_View]

why? He's going to walk if he doesnt get traded. what is their to lose for Minn?

He's not going to walk in July. They'll get offered a shitload more than that at the trade deadline.

[TheGoldStandard]

He's not going to walk in July. They'll get offered a shitload more than that at the trade deadline.

Flip Saunders is not smart though

[rjv]

If Minnesota takes that deal, they need to be removed from the league.

kahn would have been that stupid but saunders isn't

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Cavs were 60/1 not long ago. Some Cavs homers gonna make bank if they win.

And I heard a lot of people put in bets at the 60/1 and 40/1 odds last week. Vegas dropped it to 10/1 earlier this week b/c of all the bets they were receiving.

[Andthentherewas21]

why? He's going to walk if he doesnt get traded. what is their to lose for Minn?

Cuz they could have traded him earlier for far better packages from the BOS/PHX/CHI. Shit, even the GSW package of Lee, Barnes, and Thompson would be better then a pick in the high-20s, Waiters and Bennett

[spursparker9]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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Makes sense and it's a good fit, vet off the bench for the minimum. He's still clutch

[spursparker9]

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[LakerHater]

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[rjv]

still laughing at all those miami fans who scoffed at the spurs built versus bought mantra. in the end, the heat were mercenaries. and riley is like the mob boss who just got ratted out

[LakerHater]

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[ajh18]

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I think this is the start of a process to get them Love without trading Wiggins. And I think it may just work.

Keep this offer, and add to make it Waiters, Bennett, 2 first round picks (one can be the Heat's, lol) and a second round pick. That's a nice core of youth and picks for Minnesota to build around. Cavs have 3 picks in rd 1 next year, I believe.

[Baam]

Houston just needs to let Parsons do. Their salaries just aren't sustainable. Morey needs to cut his losses.

And Dallas is not a threat now even with Parsons unless Pop acts foolish again by putting Leonard on Ellis and Green on Parsons.

Pretty much feels like a lose-lose situation for Houston... Which is why it's such a good move by Cuban-Nelson...

[Spursfanfromafar]

Surprised that the Hawks aren't offering Bosh a max deal. He, Horford, Korver, Teague & Carroll would be a great combination for the Hawks. Bosh will earn his All-Stars and get deep into the playoffs staying in the East and will also be a first/second banana. A better fit than Houston.

[Obstructed_View]

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:lol Miami

it never rain but pour

At what point does the word "conspiracy" come up?

[spursparker9]

At what point does the word "conspiracy" come up?

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[Obstructed_View]

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While Wade was thinking, "Why the FUCK did I opt out?"

[spursparker9]

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lol Joel Embiid is tweeting quite a lot currently

[slick'81]

While Wade was thinking, "Why the FUCK did I opt out?"

still atleast he he can retire a heat with his new deal lol

[TheGoldStandard]

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lol Joel Embiid is tweeting quite a lot currently

Embiid is gold

[Holden_Caulfield]

can we trade ayres for anthony bennett :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

can we trade ayres for anthony bennett :lol

If we had cap space then yeah.

[TheGoldStandard]

Lol LeBatard sounds hurt

[TimDunkem]

Errors might actually be better than that p.o.s Bennett. :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Errors might actually be better than that p.o.s Bennett. :lol

Pump the brakes.. Errors is not better than anyone.

[Vic Petro]

I'd rather have Klay Thompson than Bennett and Waiters.

[TimDunkem]

Bennett and Errors both suck ass. End of story. I would rather have a sack of potatoes taking up a seat on the bench than either of those fucks.

[Thomas82]

So should the Spurs try to cash in if Morey firesales the whole roster for Bosh? jones is intriguing, maybe Beverley or Casspi?

The only player I would want from them is their 1st round draft pick Clint Capela.

[SpursFan86]

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[Thomas82]

still laughing at all those miami fans who scoffed at the spurs built versus bought mantra. in the end, the heat were mercenaries. and riley is like the mob boss who just got ratted out

+1

[TheGoldStandard]

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Both teams win

[spursparker9]

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[crc21209]

Both teams win

The Lakers win? Uhhhh :lol. Stupid Lakers helping out a Western Conf. team..

[Mel_13]

Both teams win

Lakers FO finally got one right.

[Cloud786]

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[crc21209]

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Windhorst would suck LeBron dry on national TV if he had the chance..:lol

[spursparker9]

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[xmas1997]

Windhorst would suck LeBron dry on national TV if he had the chance..:lol

He probably already has, many times.
:lol

[spursparker9]

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[Chinook]

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I guess Philly was afraid of a Linsanity stretch messing with their tanking effort.

[spursparker9]

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[Ron Swanson]

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[Ron Swanson]

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[LakerHater]

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[Spursfanfromafar]

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The Heat are all going home, eh?

Lebron to Cleveland, Oh.

Bosh to Houston, Tx.

Wade to Chicago, Il.

!!

[Mel_13]

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:lol

So Pat would have Napier, McBob, Granger, Cole, and about 50M in cap space. Let's see what the 'bawse' can do with all that cap space if players haven't already colluded to take his money.

[SpursFan86]

Bosh is from Dallas though...not Houston.

BTW, apparently the Lakers are willing to S&T Pau. Not sure who we'd give up though.

[dbestpro]

Would not be surprised if Bosh resigns for the max in Miami, and then Miami goes out and gets Deng and Stephenson.

[rjv]

The Heat are all going home, eh?

Lebron to Cleveland, Oh.

Bosh to Houston, Tx.

Wade to Chicago, Il.

!!

we made them all want to go home to their mommies.

[SpursFan86]

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Oh shit...

[slick'81]

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Oh shit...
Wat does it mean lol

[Robz4000]

Yeah, I don't speak taco. Translation FkLA?

[Mel_13]

Wat does it mean lol

Basically says that he'll make a decision soon.

I have no idea what soon means to Pau Gasol.

[RD2191]

Yeah, I don't speak taco. Translation FkLA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213)?
:lol

[SpursFan86]

My loose translation: He's close to his decision. Thanks people for their interests and help

[Texas_Ranger]

Pau just said he is close to a decision.

[Robz4000]

Lakers it is

[Kineto]

Houston must be in a hurry for the Sign&trade for Lin, so Lakers must urge Gasol to say if he stay or not

[SpursFan86]

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Things are officially interesting. Still think it's a longshot, but...

[Chinook]

Wat does it mean lol

Close to making a decision. Thanks for interest and support.

[DisAsTerBot]

woj says bosh to decide today between Houston and Miami per twitter

[-21-]

Please Pau, don't go to OKC.

[Chinook]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

[Mel_13]

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[SpursFan86]

Please Pau, don't go to OKC.

Yeah, that's the only outcome I'll be upset over. I can handle him going to Chicago/NY or staying in LA...I never seriously expected us to get him. But him going to OKC would be a punch to the gut.

[-21-]

It's amazing how fast these other FAs are making their decisions right after LeBron made his.

[rjv]

he just said i am very close to making my decision and thanks to everyone for their interest and support.

i'm inclined to think we are nowhere in the picture because there hasn't even been a peep but then again that would also make me think he picks SA.

[Mel_13]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

No brainer. Can't believe that Houston would do that.

[Robz4000]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

Aren't you one of his detractors tbh? I wouldn't mind him but he's fairly overrated.

[rjv]

Yeah, that's the only outcome I'll be upset over. I can handle him going to Chicago/NY or staying in LA...I never seriously expected us to get him. But him going to OKC would be a punch to the gut.

what if he goes to miami and joins bosh and wade there ?

[Kineto]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

Is it likely that 28 other team pass on him before us ?

[timtonymanu]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

Would be great. Wouldn't that mean that Joseph is pretty much done in SA?

[SpursFan86]

what if he goes to miami and joins bosh and wade there ?

Won't care. Miami isn't contending without LeBron, regardless of whether they keep Bosh/Wade or not.

[RD2191]

he just said i am very close to making my decision and thanks to everyone for their interest and support.

i'm inclined to think we are nowhere in the picture because there hasn't even been a peep but then again that would also make me think he picks SA.

[xmas1997]

Pau isn't going to Miami, they are not even close to being a contender anymore.

[Mel_13]

Is it likely that 28 other team pass on him before us ?

Good point. Zero chance he falls to the Spurs.

[Chinook]

No brainer. Can't believe that Houston would do that.

I honestly can't see Beverly even making it to the Spurs spot. I think he's the player whom Houston is trying to get Bosh to take less than the max.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

Yes and send Cojo in a package to the Lakers for Gasol.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Meanwhile...the Heat offer Bosh a maximum 5 year contract:

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/487702985540378624

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[Chinook]

Aren't you one of his detractors tbh? I wouldn't mind him but he's fairly overrated.

As I've said before, I like Beverly, but he's overrated as a stopper. I think as the third perimeter defender behind Leonard and Green, he'd be fantastic.

[littlecoyotecoin]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

It would fill a temporary need. Whose roster spot does he get?

[Mel_13]

I honestly can't see Beverly even making it to the Spurs spot. I think he's the player whom Houston is trying to get Bosh to take less than the max.

His salary is so small. Only 400K above an empty roster spot cap hold. Losing Beverly over that amount of cap space would be so stupid.

[Chinook]

Is it likely that 28 other team pass on him before us ?

They wouldn't all get a chance because Beverly was supposedly signed to a three-year deal, teams need cap space or trade exceptions to bid on him.

[xmas1997]

Meanwhile...the Heat offer Bosh a maximum 5 year contract:

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/487702985540378624

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Bosh and his family love it in Miami, but after Riley low balling him, if I were him I would go to Houston.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Bosh and his family love it in Miami, but after Riley low balling him, if I were him I would go to Houston. I think Bosh staying in Miami would completely screw Houston over, so I hope he stays.

[Chinook]

His salary is so small. Only 400K above an empty roster spot cap hold. Losing Beverly over that amount of cap space would be so stupid.

Yeah, but with Bosh getting a max offer from the Heat, the Rockets may just be desperate enough.

[objective]

Please stay in miami bosh

[BatManu20]

Would be nice if Bosh stayed in miami but I don't see it.

[Spursfanfromafar]

His salary is so small. Only 400K above an empty roster spot cap hold. Losing Beverly over that amount of cap space would be so stupid.

Can you pls let me know what is the max offer that the Heat can make to Bosh? Rockets' offer was $88 million over 4 years. Heat could offer, around $110 million over 5?

[Chinook]

Can you pls let me know what is the max offer that the Heat can make to Bosh? Rockets' offer was $88 million over 4 years. Heat could offer, around $110 million over 5?

$119M/5

[slick'81]

Are the heat still in consideration for bosh ?

[SpursFan86]

Does anyone know how much money NY can give Pau? Guessing it depends on the Melo situation, but I can't imagine Pau would want to play for New York without Melo. I know he wants to get paid, but that team would be horrible.

[Chinook]

Does anyone know how much money NY can give Pau? Guessing it depends on the Melo situation, but I can't imagine Pau would want to play for New York without Melo. I know he wants to get paid, but that team would be horrible.

They can only offer about $7M/2. Lol.

[Robz4000]

Bosh would be dumb to walk away from $118 million. McFail would utilize him worse than Philibeaner ever did, and with Lebron gone he'll get a rapid increase in touches.

[Spursfanfromafar]

$119M/5

Thanks!

Ha... that makes it a tough one for Bosh. Afaik, he has no relationship with Howard or Harden unlike James/Wade. Why should he take $31 million cut to go to Houston?

[xmas1997]

Bosh would be dumb to walk away from $118 million. McFail would utilize him worse than Philibeaner ever did, and with Lebron gone he'll get a rapid increase in touches.

If he stays in Miami then look for Houston to suddenly become a major player going after Gasol.

[Kineto]

They can only offer about $7M/2. Lol.

but much more in a sign&trade scenario

[littlecoyotecoin]

They wouldn't all get a chance because Beverly was supposedly signed to a three-year deal, teams need cap space or trade exceptions to bid on him.

So you are suggesting we run with 4 point guards on the roster, right? As you are already on the record as saying that The Spurs will definitely not get rid of Cojo.

[slick'81]

Thanks!

Ha... that makes it a tough one for Bosh. Afaik, he has no relationship with Howard or Harden unlike James/Wade. Why should he take $31 million cut to go to Houston?

because without james Houston has a better shot @winning

[Mel_13]

If he stays in Miami then look for Houston to suddenly become a major player going after Gasol.

Yeah, that Gasol/Howard combo worked out really well the first time.

[Chinook]

Thanks!

Ha... that makes it a tough one for Bosh. Afaik, he has no relationship with Howard or Harden unlike James/Wade. Why should he take $31 million cut to go to Houston?

Especially since Miami with Deng would probably have the same chance of making the Finals in the East as Houston would in the West.

:lol Morey pushing in all of his chips for 2014 by forcing himself to pay Parsons a year early. No chance of using 2015 free agency anymore.

[xmas1997]

because without james Houston has a better shot @winning

Not just a better shot, but a hugely better shot.

[SpursFan86]

They can only offer about $7M/2. Lol.

Hmm. So if the Lakers beatwriter is right about it not being LA, and NY is basically out of the picture, that leaves it to us, Chicago, and OKC.

I like our chances. FA is so much more fun when you don't NEED them. If we lose out, fine, we still have the same team that just won a title. If we get him, fuck yeah, we just got Pau Gasol for the MLE.

[Robz4000]

If he stays in Miami then look for Houston to suddenly become a major player going after Gasol.

Spurs already took a shit on the Gasol/Howard frontcourt.

[Chinook]

So you are suggesting we run with 4 point guards on the roster, right? As you are already on the record as saying that The Spurs will definitely not get rid of Cojo.

I do believe the team should have four PGs. I aslo do not believe that Joseph will be trade -- especially not before January. I think he survives the season unless the Spurs managed to trip over a player like Beverly, who fills the same niche. Even then, it'd only be after Mills is healthy and for a good haul.

By the way, I do apologize for misunderstanding you in our eariler discussion about this. I didn't really read one of your posts in the line of conversation, and that's why I misinterpreted you.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yes and send Cojo in a package to the Lakers for Gasol.

"Joseph is the back backup PG. He's not leaving."

-Chinook

Bev is not coming, they've decided, but if he did come, Cojo is staying. We'd be going with 4 point guards.

[Chinook]

but much more in a sign&trade scenario

I actually meant $11M/3. But they can't do an S&T if they're over the apron, which they're in real danger of being right now.

[xmas1997]

Cojo already knows the system and Pop trusts him, he isn't going anywhere yet, especially not until Patty comes back.

[EVAY]

Cojo already knows the system and Pop trusts him, he isn't going anywhere yet, especially not until Patty comes back.

This

[Obstructed_View]

I think Bosh staying in Miami would completely screw Houston over, so I hope he stays.

I think Howard's the only person to give up that much money on a max deal to go somewhere else, and it took Kobe to drive him away. I doubt Houston will benefit from two guys doing it.

[Obstructed_View]

because without james Houston has a better shot @winning

With Wade and Bosh, Miami's still probably the best team in the east, unless Wade is really as broken down as people think.

[SpursFan86]

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[Kineto]

I actually meant $11M/3. But they can't do an S&T if they're over the apron, which they're in real danger of being right now.

They can also try to dump stoudemire to the sixers, this should put them way under the apron

[Robz4000]

Swaggy P!!!!

[RD2191]

With Wade and Bosh, Miami's still probably the best team in the east, unless Wade is really as broken down as people think.
At least the 2nd seed, imo. People are forgetting how shitty the East really is.

[slick'81]

With Wade and Bosh, Miami's still probably the best team in the east, unless Wade is really as broken down as people think.

Wades done dude was calling for switches when he had his guy covered v spurs. no way heat are best in east without Lebron

[Ron Swanson]

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http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20140326/5007200/nick-young-celebration-o.gif

[Chinook]

I think Howard's the only person to give up that much money on a max deal to go somewhere else.

James just did that.

[Chinook]

They can also try to dump stoudemire to the sixers, this should put them way under the apron

They don't have enough assets to make that happen.

[SpursFan86]

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:lmao

[Ron Swanson]

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[Spursfanfromafar]

487713088951447552

:lmao

Daryl Morey, ha ha ha !

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

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:lmao
Good good fuck the Rockets

[Mel_13]

Morey went high risk/high reward and lost.

[objective]

Yes !!!!!!

[slick'81]

Wow cubes really did fuck the rockets

[NASpurs]

487713088951447552

:lmao

:lol

[ironman2886]

:rollin

[Texas_Ranger]

LOL Houston!!!

[Mel_13]

Wow cubes really did fuck the rockets

That was a badass move.

[FvckMavs]

Great News!

[RD2191]

ROFL Rockets

[slick'81]

LOL Houston!!!

Well atleast they keep parsons for 15 mil lmao

[Ron Swanson]

I can't quit laughing.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I do believe the team should have four PGs. I aslo do not believe that Joseph will be trade -- especially not before January. I think he survives the season unless the Spurs managed to trip over a player like Beverly, who fills the same niche. Even then, it'd only be after Mills is healthy and for a good haul.

By the way, I do apologize for misunderstanding you in our eariler discussion about this. I didn't really read one of your posts in the line of conversation, and that's why I misinterpreted you.

Totally accepted! Thanks. I don't know if the FO thinks they need 4 point guards or they might have traded a guard for a guard, unless despite opinion at the time they actually liked the value they saw in Daye over any guard they could have gotten in return. And, they might like their chances at filling the 4th position from other avenues rather than a trade, at the time? Like now. Or, previously in the draft (although with hindsight we know this did not occur.)

But, it still brings up the question I was getting at. If we keep up all this pursuit, someone isn't coming back. Baynes refuses his offer, they eat Daye's salary, Bonner doesn't return even for the minimum, or Cojo, Ayres, Belli, etc. is traded to open up a roster spot for Beverly, Cotton, Darius, or whoever. We're getting down to brass tacks. Mixing metaphors, the music's gonna stop and someone's not getting a chair on the title defense team.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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Dude, Cuban got the last laugh on this one. He should text Morey Parsons contract after they resign him, Rockets got nothing but 13 mil more of salary and lost Linn and Asik and can't replace either.

[Aztecfan03]

If Houston really does waive Beverly, how would folks feel about the Spurs submitting a claim? Thanks to their De Colo exception, they can do so.

He is only making $900k and they need someone to start at PG. don't see it happening.

[Spursfanfromafar]

That was a badass move.

:-)

Cuban should now text Morey and ask for Dwight Howard.. what the heck :)

[-21-]

Bosh staying in Miami is great news for us. :lol Houston

[Chinook]

That was a badass move.

Well at least the Rockets still have cap space for next year. I bet they're glad they didn't do something stupid like let Parsons out of his contract early.

[murpjf88]

Dude, Cuban got the last laugh on this one. He should text Morey Parsons contract after they resign him, Rockets got nothing but 13 mil more of salary and lost Linn and Asik and can't replace either.

Deng/Gasol/Ariza?

[crc21209]

Good shit Bosh :tu. :lol Morey...

[crc21209]

Come on Pau bring the good news...

[Mel_13]

Well at least the Rockets still have cap space for next year. I bet they're glad they didn't do something stupid like let Parsons out of his contract early.

I laughed out loud for real.

[Ditty]

:lmao Overrated fatass Morey

[Mel_13]

:-)

Cuban should now text Morey and ask for Dwight Howard.. what the heck :)

Cuban got even, and then some.

[SpursFan86]

Keep in mind: couldn't this still be a S&T?

edit: nvm, 5-year deals can't be used in S&Ts, correct?

[crc21209]

If Miami can re-sign Wade to a decent contract and get some other FA's like a Deng or Ariza, they're not so bad in that weak East...