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Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-21-2015, 07:46 AM
I haven't seen enough of him to know. I looked through some highlights and it is hard to tell. Seems like a decent guy that the spurs would want, but he hasn't played great. I think he is a bit of a victim of being Jimmer right now. Shooters have to shoot and he probably won't get that many chances to. He does have some skill if he could relax it seems. He has had a lot of chances in his career though. Without evidence to the contrary people wouldn't be wrong to expect him to be cut.

His best stint was when he playing with the starters. Had a couple of sweet passes to Duncan for a layup and a dunk. But he has been not so good playing with the 3rd string squad. And actually, the 3rd string unit for the Spurs has just downright sucked this preseason. Got Blown out in the 2nd half last night and nearly lost a 17 pt lead against the Piston in the 4th. And note, Jimmer didn't play in either one of those contests.

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 08:09 AM
Looking at everyone else, his play hasn't been so bad that he couldn't play at all...Maybe, practice is just horrible.

benefactor
10-21-2015, 08:33 AM
It's been good for the board. There are so many factions that can't agree on which player they like most, but they can all come together on disliking Jimmer.
:tu

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-21-2015, 08:56 AM
Here is a good video on Jimmer against the Kings. He played quite well against the Kings. Notice on the last play. That play was designed for Boban to pick Jimmer's man but he got caught inside of his own man. This is what I am talking about the 3rd string unit being atrocious thus far. Simple shit like this getting missed. Horrible passing. Not seeing the passing lanes. Late rotations on defense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTmYTQFAilE

Chinook
10-21-2015, 09:02 AM
Lol "have catched"

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-21-2015, 09:17 AM
Lol "have catched"


Grammar isn't the a strong suit for this uploader, but, welcome to the generation of twitter and texting, where even the English language is half assed.

Lostwingman
10-21-2015, 09:22 AM
There are people on here who hate him just as much if not more. I'm guessing it has more to do with college, but this whole this is just ridiculous in my view. So one fan is rabid and Jimmer infests the whole forum. As they say it takes two to fight. I find it bizarre. It did make the summer go by I admit, but Jimmer sucks in almost every thread is overkill IMO.
Dude seriously, it was a combination of a long offseason and some low hanging fruit discussion. Plus, you can't even begin to count how many people here run jokes into dirt and "The Great White Mormon" was one of them. This shouldn't be even slightly surprising.

jeebus
10-21-2015, 10:18 AM
656851170464546816


bye faggot.

:lol at everyone who wasted their summer posting in here

BatManu20
10-21-2015, 10:18 AM
It's official. 86 pages later.. Time to stick a fork in this thread tbh.

656851170464546816

jeebus
10-21-2015, 10:19 AM
It's official. Time to stick a fork in this thread tbh.

656851170464546816

Back of the bus, rosa.

Chinook
10-21-2015, 10:20 AM
It's official. 86 pages later.. Time to stick a fork in this thread tbh.

Hell no. This is Bump City for at least the rest of the season.

jeebus
10-21-2015, 10:23 AM
Someone needs to have the police do a welfare check on Spurtacular to see if he's killed himself with his Life-Sized Jimmer Dildo™ permanently sewed inside of him.

Robz4000
10-21-2015, 10:25 AM
:lmao

Dex
10-21-2015, 10:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QSilqA6.gif

Mel_13
10-21-2015, 10:28 AM
Hell no. This is Bump City for at least the rest of the season.

:lol

By far the most entertaining thread of the summer and one that promises to deliver the lols for months to come.

baseline bum
10-21-2015, 10:32 AM
:cry Spurtacular, I'm sorry bro :cry

http://i.imgur.com/Y0ACOBv.gif

Chinook
10-21-2015, 10:35 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/jIXcTEmU5RCpO/giphy.gif

ceperez
10-21-2015, 10:35 AM
Spurtacular, you are a good fan, but it just wasn't meant to be. my sympathies. :-(

Bartleby
10-21-2015, 10:37 AM
Imagine wasting the #10 pick on this guy!

davidbowie
10-21-2015, 10:55 AM
we didnt need any more white players tbh

dabom
10-21-2015, 10:56 AM
Imagine wasting the #10 pick on this guy!

Was he over KAwhi? :lmao

Chinook
10-21-2015, 10:59 AM
Was he over KAwhi? :lmao

And a number of other superior players.

But hey, the Kings' FO were professionals, and we're just "a bunch of message board jerkoffs". How could we possibly know something they didn't?

apalisoc_9
10-21-2015, 11:01 AM
And a number of other superior players.

But hey, the Kings' FO were professionals, and we're just a "message board jerkoffs". How could we possibly know something they didn't?

:lol

Mel_13
10-21-2015, 11:03 AM
Jimmer will make the team at least until January 10. He's on the opening night roster my friends. I trust the Spurs FO over a bunch of message board jerk offs.


And a number of other superior players.

But hey, the Kings' FO were professionals, and we're just a "message board jerkoffs". How could we possibly know something they didn't?

Birn burned.

From Downtown
10-21-2015, 11:07 AM
So sad

BatManu20
10-21-2015, 11:09 AM
Was he over KAwhi? :lmao

Over Kawhi, Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler, etc.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
10-21-2015, 11:13 AM
Hes not coming to Austin... I see him overseas.

From Downtown
10-21-2015, 11:17 AM
#PrayForJimmer

Lostwingman
10-21-2015, 11:18 AM
Bet he uses this time to do his Mormon missionary work in Serbia or something.

SpurPadre
10-21-2015, 11:19 AM
Couldn't find the gif but had to post this, it's only appropriate:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5521803298_679546ec8e.jpg

Boomersgold
10-21-2015, 11:21 AM
I was a huge Jimmer fan when he was dominating at BYU. If only his shooting form wasn't so fucked up, he could've been a decent backup sg/pg like Patty.

From Downtown
10-21-2015, 11:22 AM
Was he over KAwhi? :lmao
Klay Thompson,Kawhi,Vucevic,Tobias Harris,D-Mo,Faried,Mirotic,Reggie Jackson,Jimmy Buckets,Bogdanovic,Chandler Parsons and Isaiah Thomas to be correct :lol

Chinook
10-21-2015, 11:24 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/2/26/5449086/bobcats-jimmer-fredette-bucks-kings-trade-regret

Just a reminder of how bad the OTHER big trade during the 2011 NBA draft was.

cd98
10-21-2015, 11:24 AM
Coming to a Greece basketball team near you...

benefactor
10-21-2015, 11:31 AM
My money is on him returning to BYU. He's got a guaranteed check and campus god status waiting on him. Europe most definitely wouldn't be a shock though.

BillMc
10-21-2015, 11:40 AM
Spurtacular, you are a good fan, but it just wasn't meant to be. my sympathies. :-(
+1

BillMc
10-21-2015, 11:41 AM
500K in the bank for a month's work. Not too bad really.

lefty
10-21-2015, 11:44 AM
Couldn't find the gif but had to post this, it's only appropriate:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5521803298_679546ec8e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k6Nb0.gif

spurraider21
10-21-2015, 11:48 AM
Jimmer: This is going to be tough financially on me

Reporter: But you've still made good money in your young career, and got $500,000 guaranteed with this camp deal

Jimmer: Yeah, but you know, I gotta take care of my kids

Reporter: How many kids do you have?

Jimmer: 2...

Reporter: 2 kids? That's not so ba-

Jimmer: With each wife

Reporter: http://s3.amazonaws.com/gametizeblog/images/2012/05/mother-god-meme.jpg

Brian Windhorst
10-21-2015, 11:55 AM
Imagine wasting the #10 pick on this guy!
They picked Stauskas at 8 and traded him a year later for cap space too

SpurPadre
10-21-2015, 11:56 AM
http://i.imgur.com/k6Nb0.gif

Thanks.

benefactor
10-21-2015, 12:03 PM
Woohoo... Jimmer Range coming to the Spurs!!


Jimmer will be 6th man of year.


he will be the most improve player next year!!!


I can see Jimmer getting some starts when Parker is out.
Just pick a page. The goods are pretty much everywhere.:lol

AFBlue
10-21-2015, 12:03 PM
I was wrong about Jimmer.

Lostwingman
10-21-2015, 12:05 PM
I don't know guys, that Teach Me How To Jimmer video really had me convinced that we had a winner.

Chinook
10-21-2015, 12:11 PM
I was wrong about Jimmer.

You're a good sport. I appreciate that. :toast

jeebus
10-21-2015, 12:15 PM
I can't believe we got him. I've always thought he would be the next Reggie Miller. worst case scenario Steve Kerr, imo. He just needed the right system. Seriously, after after Jimmer gets going, noone will even remember the LMA signing, tbh.

ElNono
10-21-2015, 12:19 PM
:lol

RD2191
10-21-2015, 12:48 PM
Lol spurtacular. RIP faggot.

Chinook
10-21-2015, 12:52 PM
Please tell me you were kidding, Despot. Please.

K...
10-21-2015, 12:53 PM
Well I mean you can never prove jimmer wouldn't have made a difference.

" I mean he never got a chance! And despite being too small, to slow, and having failed on multiple teams, he deserves a chance. ...."


All season. Same argument, but maybe we can add..."jimmer destroying Greek league, pop idiot, call him up, waive Parker, Ray, mills"

Ditty
10-21-2015, 01:19 PM
Can your wife stay, Jimmer?

Maddog
10-21-2015, 01:33 PM
He shares an agent with West. Consider the 500k a finder's fee.


I really wonder how much that played into his signing.
The 500K guarantee seems a bit much for a player who A) has a remote chance and B) doesn't quite fit the type of player the Spurs bring in for a look see.
While the Spurs like shooters they usually look at people who can do more than shoot. Danny defense, Patty able to score some not great ball handling and energy
Even Austin Daye- length and rebounding.


No, I think Jimmer will be assigned to the Toros for the first part of the year, which is why his contract is guaranteed for the 1st two 1/2 months. two + months is enough to see if the guy has any shot of changing and adapting his game at this point. I can see him becoming a Steve Kerr like player for the Spurs if he really put the effort into. He is finally on a team where the coaches are noted for developing players with bad mechanics (both defense and offense) and making them viable NBA players.

Like I said in a far earlier post, if he can't be coached up by the Spurs staff, then yes, it would be obvious then, he just isn't NBA material.

I still wonder if this had something to d with the signing...

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 01:43 PM
Just close the thread...for good.

lefty
10-21-2015, 01:51 PM
88 pages :lmao


More pages than any Porker thread

Lostwingman
10-21-2015, 01:53 PM
Just close the thread...for good.

Nah, first we need to have the 40-50 pages that an Austin stint requires. Including down to the centimeter analysis of his shot form.

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 01:56 PM
Nah, first we need to have the 40-50 pages that an Austin stint requires. Including down to the centimeter analysis of his shot form.

What was I thinking

ceperez
10-21-2015, 01:57 PM
Jimmer likely did so bad in practice that the Spurs don't even care to keep him until January.

Unless, the guarantee that has been reported is entirely true or subject to making it past preseason.

BillMc
10-21-2015, 01:57 PM
Will the death spiral of this thread take it to 100 pages? 90 must be a lock.

Brazil
10-21-2015, 02:01 PM
:lol tbh...

spurraider21
10-21-2015, 02:13 PM
Spurtacular not online today? coincidence

Kawhitstorm
10-21-2015, 02:18 PM
Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) not online today? coincidence

Some check on him.......

SPURt
10-21-2015, 02:34 PM
Some check on him.......
What if Spurtacular is Jimmer? Which would be awesome

monkeypunk
10-21-2015, 02:35 PM
What if Spurtacular is Jimmer? Which would be awesome

I figured it was his wife with all the knob slobbering....

ceperez
10-21-2015, 02:49 PM
What if Spurtacular is Jimmer? Which would be awesome

you just never know

haven't noticed his handle until the jammer thread

SPURt
10-21-2015, 02:49 PM
I figured it was his wife with all the knob slobbering....
I wonder what percentage of basketball wives care about the game?

Lostwingman
10-21-2015, 02:56 PM
I figured it was his wife with all the knob slobbering....

What if the jimjam slobs his knob?

Mikeanaro
10-21-2015, 03:07 PM
Please close this thread it will bring bad luck to the Spurs, talking about crap always leads to crappy things.

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 03:20 PM
Per Sam Amico The Hawks, Jazz, Suns and Knicks are said to have an interest in Fredette. Maybe, that is why he hasn't held his press conference yet:toast

Chinook
10-21-2015, 03:21 PM
Hoping he gets claimed. Having multiple teams interested in him helps that.

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 03:22 PM
Do you think that is why they didn't play him?

Splits
10-21-2015, 03:22 PM
:lol if Jazz

Chinook
10-21-2015, 03:33 PM
Do you think that is why they didn't play him?

:lol

TheGreatYacht
10-21-2015, 03:46 PM
:lol if Jazz
:lmao

baseline bum
10-21-2015, 03:48 PM
Per Sam Amico The Hawks, Jazz, Suns and Knicks are said to have an interest in Fredette. Maybe, that is why he hasn't held his press conference yet:toast

Nice, I hope they pick his ass up off waivers so the Spurs don't have to pay.

Gladney to see you
10-21-2015, 03:49 PM
That is what I meant.

spursgu
10-21-2015, 04:03 PM
Did spurtacular die?

cd98
10-21-2015, 04:04 PM
Jazz aren't picking him up. If they wanted him, they could have picked him up forever ago. I image he'd try out for the Jazz before he'd try out for the Spurs. And if he can't beat out guys like Williams and Simmons, who themselves are not good enough to get regular minutes in the NBA, then he's pretty much out-of-luck. I image the Spurs cut Jimmer today as opposed to the deadline so he has time to sign with a team in Europe.

spurs10
10-21-2015, 04:05 PM
Good luck to him!

ChumpDumper
10-21-2015, 04:06 PM
Jazz aren't picking him up. If they wanted him, they could have picked him up forever ago. I image he'd try out for the Jazz before he'd try out for the Spurs. And if he can't beat out guys like Williams and Simmons, who themselves are not good enough to get regular minutes in the NBA, then he's pretty much out-of-luck. I image the Spurs cut Jimmer today as opposed to the deadline so he has time to sign with a team in Europe.It's possible the Spurs were the only ones to come through with a guarantee at the time. Now the other teams can decide if they want to pick it up.

Seventyniner
10-21-2015, 04:07 PM
Jimmer: This is going to be tough financially on me

Reporter: But you've still made good money in your young career, and got $500,000 guaranteed with this camp deal

Jimmer: Yeah, but you know, I gotta take care of my kids

Reporter: How many kids do you have?

Jimmer: 2...

Reporter: 2 kids? That's not so ba-

Jimmer: With each wife

Reporter: http://s3.amazonaws.com/gametizeblog/images/2012/05/mother-god-meme.jpg

:lol

cd98
10-21-2015, 04:09 PM
Did spurtacular die?

I don’t know why so many are being clownish about attacking this guy for advocating for Jimmer. Half of those dimwits that are criticizing him are the same guys that act like Simmons was the “Manu” replacement and the Boban is going to dominate on the block this year. Or, incredibly enough, that Ray McCallum should be a starting point guard. These are just as extreme, if not worse, than Spurtacular claiming that Jimmer is going to take the 15th slot on the Spurs bench.

cd98
10-21-2015, 04:11 PM
It's possible the Spurs were the only ones to come through with a guarantee at the time. Now the other teams can decide if they want to pick it up.

Not likely. Aren't the Jazz like woefully below the cp? I don't think they have to worry about guaranteeing him a spot and if he can't make the 15th spot on the Spur roster, I just think he needs to go back to the drawing board and work on his game in Europe.

ChumpDumper
10-21-2015, 04:13 PM
Not likely. Aren't the Jazz like woefully below the cp? I don't think they have to worry about guaranteeing him a spot and if he can't make the 15th spot on the Spur roster, I just think he needs to go back to the drawing board and work on his game in Europe.They could have even worse players on the end of their bench, and who knows if they want/need a Mormon PR boost. We'll know in a couple of days if anyone is interested.

SAGirl
10-21-2015, 04:14 PM
I don’t know why so many are being clownish about attacking this guy for advocating for Jimmer. Half of those dimwits that are criticizing him are the same guys that act like Simmons was the “Manu” replacement and the Boban is going to dominate on the block this year. Or, incredibly enough, that Ray McCallum should be a starting point guard. These are just as extreme, if not worse, than Spurtacular claiming that Jimmer is going to take the 15th slot on the Spurs bench.

Well said.
Although, some of the denial by Jimmers' fans of his weaknesses and deficiencies in his game was entirely subjective and thus subject to some ridicule, in the world of fandom, worse blind followers abound.

cd98
10-21-2015, 04:16 PM
They could have even worse players on the end of their bench, and who knows if they want/need a Mormon PR boost. We'll know in a couple of days if anyone is interested.

Man, if you need a Mormon PR boost in SLC, then you aren't going to make it. I'd bet 70 to 80% of their fans that attend the games are Mormon. I actually think given the BYU fan base, he would be better at selling tickets in other states. In fact, I think that's part of the reason the Kings wanted him. They were having some worries about being able to sell tickets and they wanted to bring in a big college name and attact that BYU fan base that is all over California. Even the Spurs ticket office said they were getting group requests from all the BYU/Jimmer fans.

ChumpDumper
10-21-2015, 04:18 PM
Man, if you need a Mormon PR boost in SLC, then you aren't going to make it. I'd bet 70 to 80% of their fans that attend the games are Mormon. I actually think given the BYU fan base, he would be better at selling tickets in other states. In fact, I think that's part of the reason the Kings wanted him. They were having some worries about being able to sell tickets and they wanted to bring in a big college name and attact that BYU fan base that is all over California. Even the Spurs ticket office said they were getting group requests from all the BYU/Jimmer fans.All depends. Might get more local casual fans interested. It's not a ridiculous thought.

spursgu
10-21-2015, 04:23 PM
I don’t know why so many are being clownish about attacking this guy for advocating for Jimmer. Half of those dimwits that are criticizing him are the same guys that act like Simmons was the “Manu” replacement and the Boban is going to dominate on the block this year. Or, incredibly enough, that Ray McCallum should be a starting point guard. These are just as extreme, if not worse, than Spurtacular claiming that Jimmer is going to take the 15th slot on the Spurs bench.


I personally didn't mind him. The offseason was slow and it was fun reading this thread. Lol. But he's hasn't posted in this thread for a while obviously.

DeRozan m8
10-21-2015, 04:33 PM
Dude didn't get much of a chance hey.
Surely he's better than Reggie Williams, who has gotten wayyyyy too many minutes.
Reggie shouldn't have even been in camp

ceperez
10-21-2015, 04:45 PM
Per Sam Amico The Hawks, Jazz, Suns and Knicks are said to have an interest in Fredette. Maybe, that is why he hasn't held his press conference yet:toast

Well, Spurs have a history of cutting players early so they can get opportunities elsewhere.

bic50
10-21-2015, 04:53 PM
I don’t know why so many are being clownish about attacking this guy for advocating for Jimmer. Half of those dimwits that are criticizing him are the same guys that act like Simmons was the “Manu” replacement and the Boban is going to dominate on the block this year. Or, incredibly enough, that Ray McCallum should be a starting point guard. These are just as extreme, if not worse, than Spurtacular claiming that Jimmer is going to take the 15th slot on the Spurs bench.

Well said.

tholdren
10-21-2015, 06:16 PM
*don’t know why so many are being clownish about attacking this guy for advocating for Jimmer. Half of those dimwits that are criticizing him are the same guys that act like Simmons was the “Manu” replacement and the Boban is going to dominate on the block this year. Or, incredibly enough, that Ray McCallum should be a starting point guard. These are just as extreme, if not worse, than Spurtacular claiming that Jimmer is going to take the 15th*slot on the Spurs bench... .

Because you have the 20k posters who know everything...

BD24
10-21-2015, 07:01 PM
Spurtacular right about now :hang

cd98
10-21-2015, 09:10 PM
I'll say this, Spurs cut Simmons or Butler and outside of Spur world no one would know. Jimmer gets cut and it's front page on all the major news outlets. I guess I didn't fully realize his popularity.

ChumpDumper
10-21-2015, 09:12 PM
I'll say this, Spurs cut Simmons or Butler and outside of Spur world no one would know. Jimmer gets cut and it's front page on all the major news outlets. I guess I didn't fully realize his popularity.He was a lottery pick after all.

exstatic
10-21-2015, 09:20 PM
And the Spurtacular troll disappears...

Spurtacular
10-21-2015, 10:02 PM
A sad day for the Spurs, tbh. McCallum is crap. He'll make people long for the days of CoJo.

Spurtacular
10-21-2015, 10:03 PM
Some of us work, guys. Been on a business trip for this is my third night now. No disappearing.

Mikeanaro
10-21-2015, 10:17 PM
:wakeup

Beaverfuzz
10-21-2015, 10:50 PM
Burn down the Outhouse of Jimmer.

Spurtacular
10-21-2015, 11:19 PM
Burn down the Outhouse of Jimmer.

Burn down your face.

Spurtacular
10-21-2015, 11:20 PM
And the Spurtacular troll disappears...

If I was trolling, you'd know it. How many Jimmer threads did I make? I ain't one of these krew faggots.

Beaverfuzz
10-21-2015, 11:28 PM
Burn down your face.


Which is still less stank than Jimmer. Did you get a rimmer from Jimmer back in Provo?

apalisoc_9
10-21-2015, 11:52 PM
If I was trolling, you'd know it. How many Jimmer threads did I make? I ain't one of these krew faggots.

do you know Jimmer, IRL?

Just kinda curious..

I't extremely rare to see a fan of a fringe NBA player tbh..It's almost non-existant.

Vito Corleone
10-22-2015, 12:06 AM
What are the chances this thread goes over 100?

I'll say this, I was pulling for Jimmer, but the reports of him coasting on defense tells me all I need to know about how he was taking his NBA career. If he can't put in the work, he might as well get out and head to Europe, he will have a nice career over there. They don't require defense or athletic ability.

spurraider21
10-22-2015, 12:12 AM
Some of us have problems, guys. Been on a drinking binge for my third night now. No disappearing.
you shouldn't have gotten emotionally involved with jimmer

benfti
10-22-2015, 12:29 AM
"Jimmer thinks everybody is stupid," said an NBA assistant who worked with Fredette. "He thinks everybody needs to come and just turn over their offense and let him shoot it anytime he wants. That's not how the league works."


from an article on yahoo

Splits
10-22-2015, 12:35 AM
Some of us work, guys. Been on a business trip for this is my third night now. No disappearing.

How's Salt Lake City? Are the Momo girls still impenetrable?

apalisoc_9
10-22-2015, 01:16 AM
from an article on yahoo

I wonder if those are spurs assistant.

kobyz
10-22-2015, 01:30 AM
jimmer = taylor rochestie

cd98
10-22-2015, 07:52 AM
from an article on yahoo

Unless your Iverson, Melo, Kobe...of course Jimmer is none of those. But this league has been a league of chuckers.

cd98
10-22-2015, 07:55 AM
He was a lottery pick after all.

The fail rate of a tenth pick is high. A number one or maybe two, yes, but a ten pick is not on that level. He wouldn't make a top 20 draft bust list. He probably wouldn't make a top 30.

benefactor
10-22-2015, 07:58 AM
from an article on yahoo
So he has a Kobe mentality with VSpan talent...:lol

Biernutz
10-22-2015, 08:01 AM
Jimmer want's teams to change the way they play to his BYU game. Pass him
the ball to shoot everytime and not to play any Defense.....

Lostwingman
10-22-2015, 09:30 AM
A sad day for the Spurs, tbh. McCallum is crap. He'll make people long for the days of CoJo.

Yea, I'm sure we'll all be broken up over it when Jimmer is getting cut in China (no shortage of short, slow, shooters there) and McCallum is still just a third string that's costing us peanuts. If our season makes or breaks on a third string PG we were doomed anyway. At least McCallum can play defense though.


"In college everything was geared around him," his former coach said. "He's had to learn how to play off other people here, and that's been a struggle for him." (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-jimmer-fredette-has-been-such-a-big-bust-in-the-nba-023311779.html)
:lmao

Lostwingman
10-22-2015, 09:31 AM
The fail rate of a tenth pick is high. A number one or maybe two, yes, but a ten pick is not on that level. He wouldn't make a top 20 draft bust list. He probably wouldn't make a top 30.

Didn't Sacramento trade down to draft him? If you include that I'd bet he'd shoot up the list.

BD24
10-22-2015, 09:44 AM
Didn't Sacramento trade down to draft him? If you include that I'd bet he'd shoot up the list.
The Kings passed on Klay Thompson to draft him :lol Fucking idiots, I wonder if Spurtacular was part of the Kings front office. Would help explain alot of their shitty choices.

cd98
10-22-2015, 09:50 AM
Didn't Sacramento trade down to draft him? If you include that I'd bet he'd shoot up the list.

No, not even close. There have been so many busts drafted in the top 3. Also, that draft was universally considered a low talent draft that year. Of course it has yielded some good players. And you can play the "you drafted him over him" game every year. Don't forget that Manu was the last pick of the second round the year he was drafted. And judging by the pre-draft selections that fans on this board lament our front office didn't make, all I can say is, the fans get it wrong at a much higher rate.

Lostwingman
10-22-2015, 09:57 AM
The Kings passed on Klay Thompson to draft him :lol Fucking idiots, I wonder if Spurtacular was part of the Kings front office. Would help explain alot of their shitty choices.

Someone must have sold them on the fantasy inside-out pairing of Jimmer and Cousins. :lmao

Just think, two self important prima donna's being the head of a California shitsnake.

Lostwingman
10-22-2015, 10:04 AM
No, not even close. There have been so many busts drafted in the top 3. Also, that draft was universally considered a low talent draft that year. Of course it has yielded some good players. And you can play the "you drafted him over him" game every year. Don't forget that Manu was the last pick of the second round the year he was drafted. And judging by the pre-draft selections that fans on this board lament our front office didn't make, all I can say is, the fans get it wrong at a much higher rate.

Eh, with Manu there was what, 3 or 4 years of him being overseas before coming over? I wonder where he would have gone if he didn't enter the draft until he was ready to come over.

BatManu20
10-22-2015, 10:13 AM
Here ya go Spurtacular


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BatManu20
10-22-2015, 10:15 AM
lol

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Chinook
10-22-2015, 11:32 AM
Here ya go Spurtacular


657125605121642496

People were too keen to make excuses for him. I don't exactly take the article as gospel truth (Fredette looked like he tried to be a PG with the Pelicans for example), but the portrait of Jimmer that it paints was in line with my assumptions. The dude is an Anti-Green. His shot is broken because he WON'T fix it, not because he can't. Dude had a role-player (at best) skill-set but a superstar mentality. Not nearly the first guy in pro sports to have his career end because of that.

Maddog
10-22-2015, 12:08 PM
People were too keen to make excuses for him. I don't exactly take the article as gospel truth (Fredette looked like he tried to be a PG with the Pelicans for example), but the portrait of Jimmer that it paints was in line with my assumptions. The dude is an Anti-Green. His shot is broken because he WON'T fix it, not because he can't. Dude had a role-player (at best) skill-set but a superstar mentality. Not nearly the first guy in pro sports to have his career end because of that.

The example the article makes and some others here have made is about JJ Reddick taking a long time to adjust. Since I don't watch much college ball- was his release flawed?

Ignignokt
10-22-2015, 12:10 PM
How's Salt Lake City? Are the Momo girls still impenetrable?

Sup cucky

spurraider21
10-22-2015, 12:11 PM
you've gotta let jimmer be jimmer

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-22-2015, 12:13 PM
The example the article makes and some others here have made is about JJ Reddick taking a long time to adjust. Since I don't watch much college ball- was his release flawed?

Yes, he had the same cocking the ball all the way to your shoulder like Kawhi did coming out of college. You're going to get block of ton in the NBA doing that. He never tried to change it until this year.

Having a mentality that you a superstar when you are no more than solid bench player will kill anyone's career.

SpursFan86
10-22-2015, 12:15 PM
90 pages over this dude :lmao

ceperez
10-22-2015, 12:19 PM
People were too keen to make excuses for him. I don't exactly take the article as gospel truth (Fredette looked like he tried to be a PG with the Pelicans for example), but the portrait of Jimmer that it paints was in line with my assumptions. The dude is an Anti-Green. His shot is broken because he WON'T fix it, not because he can't. Dude had a role-player (at best) skill-set but a superstar mentality. Not nearly the first guy in pro sports to have his career end because of that.

Well, this explains why Pop waived him. Jimmer hasn't gotten over himself.

Chinook
10-22-2015, 12:36 PM
The example the article makes and some others here have made is about JJ Reddick taking a long time to adjust. Since I don't watch much college ball- was his release flawed?

I thought it was that he couldn't defend and wasn't athletic at all. But that was before my adult life, so I don't recall.

snickles
10-22-2015, 04:02 PM
Dude didn't get much of a chance hey.


yeah, he only got all of training camp to show the coaches what he could and couldn't do.

DeRozan m8
10-22-2015, 04:21 PM
Calm down, champ, i meant on the court in pre season.

I don't give a fuck either way, didn't even want him

TheGreatYacht
10-22-2015, 09:04 PM
657297680343760896
Jabari with the usual goods

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Havent heard it, but this is a podcast for you, Jimmer fan(s)

TheGreatYacht
10-22-2015, 09:08 PM
http://youtu.be/O5YLUP9b4Mg

tholdren
10-22-2015, 09:16 PM
Meh. Bad move by sa. Paying money to someone they couldn't fit, but keeping players that still have huge question marks....

ChumpDumper
10-22-2015, 09:17 PM
Meh. Bad move by sa. Paying money to someone they couldn't fit, but keeping players that still have huge question marks....You guys act like it's your money.

tholdren
10-22-2015, 09:20 PM
You guys act like it's your money.
And you act like the roster got better

ChumpDumper
10-22-2015, 10:13 PM
And you act like the roster got betterBy getting rid of Jimmer?

Meh, can't say it got any worse.

Spurtacular
10-22-2015, 11:50 PM
Yea, I'm sure we'll all be broken up over it when Jimmer is getting cut in China (no shortage of short, slow, shooters there) and McCallum is still just a third string that's costing us peanuts. If our season makes or breaks on a third string PG we were doomed anyway. At least McCallum can play defense though.


:lmao

No, he can't. McCallum's defense sucks balls.

Kawhitstorm
10-23-2015, 12:12 AM
No, he can't. McCallum's defense sucks balls.

Jimmer wouldn't be so slow on defense if you weren't hanging on his nuts.

Holden_Caulfield
10-23-2015, 12:15 AM
lol 91 pages. the fuck

Aztecfan03
10-23-2015, 12:19 AM
lol 91 pages. the fuck
there are probably at least 10 full pages of people talking about the page count.

SpursIndonesia
10-23-2015, 04:38 AM
This thread is on its way to the centennial mark, here you go !! :lol

BillMc
10-23-2015, 05:10 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2533/3825797845_9e5b291208.jpg

Gladney to see you
10-23-2015, 05:54 AM
Jimmer played good Defense in his last game with us. Good help defense.

benefactor
10-23-2015, 06:13 AM
The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

Tebow complex, tbh.

Gladney to see you
10-23-2015, 07:08 AM
I know I'm in the minority but I don't agree...I think he is pretty good OR can be. That being said, he is gone and I don't really give a flip other than getting this thread to its needed goal.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-23-2015, 07:27 AM
The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

Tebow complex, tbh.

Not really. It's business. If Jimmer gets injured, they have to keep him on the roster since his contract was guaranteed through mid-January. I honestly believe its Simmons and Williams play or lack thereof that did Jimmer in. Spurs already have Mills and Jimmer would just be another prototype 2 guard/PG like Patty.

People forget the Spurs developed Mills for two years before he started to show something of worth.

The fact that the Spurs signed another SF just shows you where their concern is. I think the FO as many here believed that Simmons was ready to take the backup spot as a SF/SG combo. But it was painfully obvious this preseason, he is not ready. So the Spurs had to let Jimmer go because they don't have the Luxury to develop Jimmer at this point, which I noted in one of my first posts in this thread (Jimmer being a luxury pickup to develop). Jimmer played really good D this preseason and his shot release was much quicker, yet less accurate, but a sign that he was altering his shot (which takes time).

I don't think Pop was trying to appease anyone w/ his statement. He was stating facts, and the fact of the matter is the Spurs have a more pressing need at SF than SG/PG combo as Mills was playing lights out most of the preseason.

Chinook
10-23-2015, 07:32 AM
I think he is pretty good OR can be.

You're right that I don't even slightly agree with you. But I'm setting that aside for the moment. There's a huge gap being having the potential to be good and actually being good. Getting from the former to the latter requires hard work, determination and the ability to honestly evaluate your skills and to know what you need to improve. Jimmer doesn't seem to have that. If he's not willing to work on his game, then he's NOT good enough. No one is good enough in college to be a rotation NBA player without improvement.

Chinook
10-23-2015, 07:36 AM
Not really. It's business. If Jimmer gets injured, they have to keep him on the roster since his contract was guaranteed through mid-January.

That's ... that's just not a logical deduction at all. Jimmer gets paid no matter what. The Spurs didn't have to keep him on the roster if he got hurt.

And the roster had nothing to do with it. The Spurs have like five players who can and will play the three at some point this year. They didn't desperately NEED a sixth. If Jimmer truly believes he got pushed off the roster and not just flat-out cut, I feel sorry for him. The Spurs played almost everyone over Jimmer all pre-season. They just didn't want him on the team.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-23-2015, 08:12 AM
That's ... that's just not a logical deduction at all. Jimmer gets paid no matter what. The Spurs didn't have to keep him on the roster if he got hurt.

And the roster had nothing to do with it. The Spurs have like five players who can and will play the three at some point this year. They didn't desperately NEED a sixth. If Jimmer truly believes he got pushed off the roster and not just flat-out cut, I feel sorry for him. The Spurs played almost everyone over Jimmer all pre-season. They just didn't want him on the team.

Let's explore the 5 players to play the 3.

Kawhi. Will get most of the minutes. But he is prone to injuries that will keep him out at least 10 games.

Manu. He is getting up there and will receive reduce minutes and might even miss quite a few games.

KA. Not quick enough to guard quick SF and is more of a situational SF at this point.

Green. Hardly ever plays the 3. He usually plays the 2 and sometimes the 1 position on defense.

Simmons. After his preseason play, he has shown he is not ready. Hasn't even played a minute in the NBA regular season.

So of those 5 players, Manu is 2, Green is a 2. KA is a 3/4 position player, who is too slow to guard the more athletic 3's in the league. Would you really want him to guard someone like James/Durant, etc. Guy had trouble guarding Rudy Gay.

That makes Kawhi the only true SF on this team. Maybe you forgot how much the Spurs struggled at the 3 position when Kawhi was out last year, and Diaw, Green, Manu and KA were all on the roster and playing minutes at the position. You say its flawed logic YET history would say otherwise. Simmons was suppose to be the guy to take on the reins as the backup 3 and he has shown he isn't ready.

That 6th Guy, as you put it, which possibly is going to be Butler, would be the only guy on the team that is a true SF. Being that the last two guys the Spurs didn't cut were SF and they recently signed another SF (which is probably for Austin) tells me that they see this position as a point of emphasis this season. And it was the Spurs biggest weakness last year, the backup SF position (apart from Parker hobbling around late in the season).

People forget how much this team struggled without Kawhi and how much the bench struggled last year as well w/o Beli. W/O Beli, who is going to play the 2 when Manu plays the 3. Backup SF position took a big hit when the Spurs lost Beli as well this offseason as the Spurs really don't have a reliable backup 2 outside of Manu at this point. Simmons was suppose to be that new combo G/F on the Spurs roster and he looked promising after his SL showing.

Pop comments is what makes me believe I am right along with the Spurs holding on to two SF and signing another this week. Spurs just don't have the luxury for someone like Jimmer now as they need a true SF, which they will have if Butler makes the team. Simmons just downgraded himself from potential backup to still a project player himself after his Preseason play.

benefactor
10-23-2015, 08:25 AM
^Occam's razor.

Jimmer just isn't good enough/unwilling to make the adjustments needed to play in the NBA.

Chinook
10-23-2015, 08:56 AM
Let's explore the 5 players to play the 3.

Kawhi. Will get most of the minutes. But he is prone to injuries that will keep him out at least 10 games.

Not gonna argue.


Manu. He is getting up there and will receive reduce minutes and might even miss quite a few games.

Yeah, he'll get 16-20 mpg, which is more than enough to help out there.


KA. Not quick enough to guard quick SF and is more of a situational SF at this point.

Just as quick as Butler and a better overall defender than Williams. Started at SF when Kawhi was out last year and is definitely going to get the bulk of non-Leonard minutes there.


Green. Hardly ever plays the 3. He usually plays the 2 and sometimes the 1 position on defense.

This is just wrong. For his career, Danny has played about a third of minutes at SF (35%). Last year, he played 43 percent of his minutes there, including many starts over the last two years. Danny, like Kawhi, guards whoever he needs to, but that includes a LOT of SFs. He checked Durant for most of the 2014 WCF. And he puts up better defensive numbers at the three than he does the two.


Simmons. After his preseason play, he has shown he is not ready. Hasn't even played a minute in the NBA regular season.

For a fifth option, he's not that bad. If he can't hold down that spot, he'll be cut. There's no reason to keep him around if he can't do that much.


So of those 5 players, Manu is 2, Green is a 2. KA is a 3/4 position player, who is too slow to guard the more athletic 3's in the league. Would you really want him to guard someone like James/Durant, etc. Guy had trouble guarding Rudy Gay.

Manu and Green have and will continue to check bigger players. Danny turned in an elite performance against Durant. There's certainly no way Pop's going to go, "Danny can't check this dude, but Reggie Williams can."


That makes Kawhi the only true SF on this team. Maybe you forgot how much the Spurs struggled at the 3 position when Kawhi was out last year, and Diaw, Green, Manu and KA were all on the roster and playing minutes at the position.

They didn't struggle at SF at all. Green's numbers exploded when he played the three. Dude was a fantasy darling. The problem wasn't the SF spot; it was the overall talent drop from Green/Leonard to Green/Anderson or Beli/Green, not to mention how weak the bench was with the lineups altered.


You say its flawed logic

Yes, your assertion that Jimmer was not played because the Spurs didn't want him to get hurt was terrible, terrible logic.

Dude, the whole point is that Williams isn't a three anymore than Jimmer is. So you're assertion that Jimmer was cut because the Spurs wanted to go with more SF depth is weak, and the idea that Jimmer didn't even PLAY wasn't because Pop didn't like his performance is even weaker.

AFBlue
10-23-2015, 10:11 AM
The fact that Pop didn't even bother to play him the last couple of games speaks volumes. It basically confirms a lot of what has been said about Jimmer simply being less talented than he perceives himself to be.

Tebow complex, tbh.

I don't think his lack of play is an indicator of his attitude or false sense of self. He never said or implied that he didn't get a fair shake, which would've supported your assertion. It simply reflects the fact that he didn't make a strong enough case to warrant PT based on his practice time. No need to assassinate the kid's character because he isn't good enough to make the team. No doubt he would've been a model Spurs player on and off the court if he'd shown enough production or potential in his time with the team.

Wherever the kid ends up, I hope he's successful. As long as it's not against the Spurs.

AFBlue
10-23-2015, 10:13 AM
^Occam's razor.

Jimmer just isn't good enough/unwilling to make the adjustments needed to play in the NBA.

Inappropriate use of the "/" tbqh. He could be willing to make adjustments and still not be good enough to make the Spurs.

Chinook
10-23-2015, 10:16 AM
Inappropriate use of the "/" tbqh. He could be willing to make adjustments and still not be good enough to make the Spurs.

Yes, it's true that Jimmer may just not be good enough. However, the comments about Jimmer's attitude come from a Yahoo article posted a few pages back. That's why Benefactor and I are talking about his willingness to adjust rather than just his ability.

Gladney to see you
10-23-2015, 11:30 AM
I can only go by what I saw. And he looked better than what I saw the last two games from a lot of the other guys. I like what he can do on a pick and roll. I like that he pushed the pace and I think it is a nice change of pace from the starters. He isn't allowed to go 1-9 over 2 games like some players though. But, alas, it really is insignificant if he is not on this team. He is an afterthought.

I do like who we just picked up. I'd much rather work with a guy who has the physical tools than not. It is different though if he doesn't work out because he isn't Jimmer. I think at a certain point all that worked for you comes crashing down on you. Hence, the article...which has a whole lotta sour grapes sound to me.

I'm also, not of the mind that if Jimmer can't make it here he can in a foreign country. I think if it don't work it don't work for him.

Getting closer to the goal. Game 1 is cut-off.

Chinook
10-23-2015, 11:39 AM
I'm also, not of the mind that if Jimmer can't make it here he can in a foreign country. I think if it don't work it don't work for him.

If he really does have attitude problems, I don't think he'll be picked up by the best Euro teams. But as far as skill-set goes, he should be fine. Talent level is everything. Jimmer should be able to get his shot off more easily against shorter and slower players. His handles will be pretty decent for a PG. He might be able to dominate the ball on certain teams, and his defense shouldn't be as big of an issue.

Boomersgold
10-24-2015, 10:00 AM
Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 11:37 AM
Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?I think it's possible, but maybe unlikely. The Spurs can allocate four camp players to Austin; Ndoye, Sykes and Washburn seem to be locks for allocation. If Thomas is going to play in the D-League, the Spurs own his D-League rights. If Thomas goes back to Europe, it looks like Jimmer could choose to either be allocated or enter the D-League draft. There could be some arcane rule that renders this all moot, but this is my current understanding.

Spurtacular
10-24-2015, 12:26 PM
Jimmer played good Defense in his last game with us. Good help defense.

Jimmer's defense and McCallum's are about the same; that's how bad a defender McCallum is, tbh.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 12:27 PM
Jimmer's defense and McCallum's are about the same; that's how bad a defender McCallum is, tbh.http://orig09.deviantart.net/4012/f/2014/017/b/7/elsa___let_it_go_gif_by_detsukene-d72k7fv.gif

BillMc
10-24-2015, 01:02 PM
Why won't this thread die? :lol

Chinook
10-24-2015, 01:22 PM
Why won't this thread die? :lol

Beneath this thread there is more than posts. Beneath this thread there is an idea, Mr. Bill. And ideas are bulletproof.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/5a7a4d1f7351deacc2bac2ec038db351/tumblr_n338x7hXhI1twavj5o1_500.jpg

BillMc
10-24-2015, 01:25 PM
Behind this thread there is more than posts, Mr. Bill. There is an idea. And ideas are bulletproof.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/5a7a4d1f7351deacc2bac2ec038db351/tumblr_n338x7hXhI1twavj5o1_500.jpg

:lmao Touche'

ElNono
10-24-2015, 01:34 PM
Need to get this thread to 100 pages before season starts, tbh

exstatic
10-24-2015, 01:54 PM
Eh, with Manu there was what, 3 or 4 years of him being overseas before coming over? I wonder where he would have gone if he didn't enter the draft until he was ready to come over.

Manu was an automatic entry at 22.

Spurtacular
10-24-2015, 03:46 PM
Why won't this thread die? :lol

Who cares. Let the damn thing go to hundred.

benefactor
10-24-2015, 03:59 PM
Don't really know much about the D-league, but can Jimmer still play for Austin?
:lol...you really think that Jimmer Bryant is going to go to the D-League?

He'll probably test the waters overseas. As Chinook said, he should be able to play better/get his shot off against less athletic players.

cd98
10-24-2015, 05:21 PM
I was at the game last night. I saw RC on the phone. Could of swore he was calling Jimmer to tell him he had second thoughts.

kjhip1
10-24-2015, 05:30 PM
I was at the game last night. I saw RC on the phone. Could of swore he was calling Jimmer to tell him he had second thoughts.

Or to tell him he took one of the team towels out of the locker room and he was required to bring it back

HI-FI
10-24-2015, 05:40 PM
Need to get this thread to 100 pages before season starts, tbh
This. I don't even know how this shit got beyond 7 pages.

This is is my first post in here, just want to see it hit a 100.

Lostwingman
10-24-2015, 06:24 PM
Nah we can still get mileage out of this thread. Now to start Jimmer D League Watch 2015!

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:26 PM
http://orig09.deviantart.net/4012/f/2014/017/b/7/elsa___let_it_go_gif_by_detsukene-d72k7fv.gif

Paying a player to play PG who averages 4TO's to 1 Assist. Smart.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:28 PM
Paying a player to play PG who averages 4TO's to 1 Assist. Smart.You're going to be bitching about this all season no matter how well anyone does.

It's going to be great.

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:32 PM
You're going to be bitching about this all season no matter how well anyone does.

It's going to be great.

You must really like Ray. Cute.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:34 PM
You must really like Ray. Cute.That's the person whose ast/to ratio you were bitching about?

Where did you get those numbers?

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:38 PM
That's the person whose ast/to ratio you were bitching about?

Where did you get those numbers?

Sorry its now a little over 2 TO to 1 A

Pre season 9 TOs and 4 Assist playing 81 minutes. WTF

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:39 PM
Sorry its now a little over 2 TO to 1 A

Pre season 9 TOs and 4 Assist playing 81 minutes. WTFSo you just made up some shit and repeated it over and over.

Nice agenda.

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:41 PM
So you just made up some shit and repeated it over and over.

Nice agenda.

Nope, at one point it was 4:1. But that shouldn't matter. What matters is he's played over 80 minutes, has over 2x more TOs than assists. And he's a pg.

Deflect all you want - those kind of stats are grounds for termination.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:43 PM
Nope, at one point it was 4:1. But that shouldn't matter. What matters is he's played over 80 minutes, has over 2x more TOs than assists. And he's a pg.

Deflect all you want - those kind of stats are grounds for termination.Nah, I'd go more by his career ast/to ratio to this point considering the shit lineups he played with most of the time in preseason.

You have no objectivity here. Jimmer lust has crazed you.

But good on you for actually seeing how badly you fucked up Ray's stats.

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:45 PM
Nah, I'd go more by his career ast/to ratio to this point considering the shit lineups he played with most of the time in preseason.

You have no objectivity here. Jimmer lust has crazed you.

So, you're telling me that as a "professional" point guard, over 80 minutes into pre-season it is acceptable to have more than twice as many TOs as assists?

I just want to clarify.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:49 PM
So, you're telling me that as a "professional" point guard, over 80 minutes into pre-season it is acceptable to have more than twice as many TOs as assists?

I just want to clarify.Sure, since there are 2333 minutes of actual NBA basketball from which to draw conclusions for a 24 year old. Why do those suddenly not count at all to you? Please explain. Clarify how the 80 minutes count more than the 2333.

I know you're heartbroken and hurt and will be for a long, long time -- but you've kind of lost your mind here.

tholdren
10-24-2015, 06:51 PM
Sure, since there are 2333 minutes of actual NBA basketball from which to draw conclusions for a 24 year old. Why do those suddenly not count at all to you? Please explain. Clarify how the 80 minutes count more than the 2333.

I know you're heartbroken and hurt and will be for a long, long time -- but you've kind of lost your mind here.

That's all I wanted to know. Thanks, we're done here.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 06:53 PM
That's all I wanted to know. Thanks, we're done here.I'm sure you are. You desperately want to run away from the actual NBA minutes Ray has played.

You're done like Jimmer is and there isn't a damn thing you can do about either.

Now run away and cry for Jimmer.

tholdren
10-24-2015, 07:05 PM
I'm sure you are. You desperately want to run away from the actual NBA minutes Ray has played.

You're done like Jimmer is and there isn't a damn thing you can do about either.

Now run away and cry for Jimmer.

Yikes chump, looks like you're all out of sorts. It's just nice to know you think its acceptable for a guy with 2k plus minutes in actual NBA games, to struggle against scrubs in the pre-season. But, if you're good with more turnovers than assists, not a big deal, everyone can have an opinion.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2015, 07:07 PM
Yikes chump, looks like you're all out of sorts. It's just nice to know you think its acceptable for a guy with 2k plus minutes in actual NBA games, to struggle against scrubs in the pre-season. But, if you're good with more turnovers than assists, not a big deal, everyone can have an opinion.Sure, since there are 2333 minutes of actual NBA basketball from which to draw conclusions for a 24 year old. Why do those suddenly not count at all to you? Please explain. Clarify how the 80 minutes count more than the 2333.

Share your opinion if you aren't going to run away again.

Lostwingman
10-24-2015, 09:49 PM
There's a new JIDF in town

playbonner15
10-24-2015, 10:20 PM
92 pages and counting. Lets guess where Jimmer takes his talents and continue to ponder why he got cut

Mikeanaro
10-24-2015, 10:26 PM
So, if he playing for the Spurs?

Spurtacular
10-28-2015, 10:06 PM
Spurs could've used Jimmer tonight to space the floor and get better threes than a blocked three by Green and a weak corner three by LMA in the final minute.

ElNono
10-28-2015, 10:07 PM
Spurs could've used Jimmer

No. Move on

Ice009
10-28-2015, 10:12 PM
Spurs could've used Jimmer tonight to space the floor and get better threes than a blocked three by Green and a weak corner three by LMA in the final minute.

Man, I am defense first, second, third and Jimmer is a horrendous defender. There is no chance in heck that he would be on my team and even less chance he'd be on the court with the game on the line trying to guard Russell Westbrook. If you're a Jimmer player fan and not a Spurs fan - He's gone, so now you need to go too.

spursgu
10-28-2015, 10:13 PM
He played great tonight

dabom
10-28-2015, 10:13 PM
He played great tonight

Had a better night than porker tbh.

Splits
10-29-2015, 07:46 PM
659880839220731904Discuss

cd98
10-29-2015, 08:11 PM
Yikes. Shows Jimmer wants to play in the NBA this year. I guess he got $500,000 so he can afford to work on his game in the D-League and wait for an opportunity to materialize. It'd be funny if he went to Austin.

BillMc
10-29-2015, 08:14 PM
:lol Die thread die!

Gladney to see you
10-29-2015, 08:39 PM
Defense is defense...hope he plays well.

ChumpDumper
10-29-2015, 08:53 PM
659875854042816512Looks like the Spurs didn't (or couldn't) allocate him.

Boomersgold
10-31-2015, 01:28 PM
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So close to 100 pages...

Mel_13
10-31-2015, 01:32 PM
Ayres was the #1 pick.

ChumpDumper
10-31-2015, 01:34 PM
660522472840654848

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Damn, even the Jazz affiliate team didn't want Jimmer.

BatManu20
10-31-2015, 01:35 PM
Jimmer's so good he got drafted in the lottery twice. #Legend

BatManu20
10-31-2015, 01:36 PM
Ayers fulfilling his dream of being drafted #1 overall. Shitting on the haters :worthy:

Chinook
10-31-2015, 01:37 PM
Ayres was the #1 pick.

Was totally hoping he was going to go overseas so there would be no chance of Pop bringing him in this season.

Gladney to see you
10-31-2015, 02:22 PM
An interesting note about this move is that the new head coach in Westchester is Mike Miller (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millemi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-dailyknicks.com). Miller served as an assistant for the Spurs’ D-League affiliate, the Austin Spurs, from 2013 to 2015.
Fredette, who spent the preseason and training camp with the San Antonio Spurs, appears to have received a glowing recommendation, thus leading to Allan Houston (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/houstal01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-dailyknicks.com)‘s decision to bring him to Westchester.

ChumpDumper
10-31-2015, 02:27 PM
An interesting note about this move is that the new head coach in Westchester is Mike Miller (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millemi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-dailyknicks.com). Miller served as an assistant for the Spurs’ D-League affiliate, the Austin Spurs, from 2013 to 2015.
Fredette, who spent the preseason and training camp with the San Antonio Spurs, appears to have received a glowing recommendation, thus leading to Allan Houston (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/houstal01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-dailyknicks.com)‘s decision to bring him to Westchester.That's a pretty big assumption to make. Given the growing irrelevance of the D-League draft, taking anyone with NBA experience in the first few slots is a no brainer.

Gladney to see you
10-31-2015, 02:29 PM
Sorry link added

http://dailyknicks.com/2015/10/31/knicks-select-jimmer-fredette-in-2015-nba-d-league-draft/

I don't not agree with you. I'm still stuck on Jimmer for a while I guess.

SAGirl
10-31-2015, 03:07 PM
Was totally hoping he was going to go overseas so there would be no chance of Pop bringing him in this season.
Apparently the news is that he failed the Chinese workout, from David Pick.
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Chinook
10-31-2015, 03:15 PM
Apparently the news is that he failed the Chinese workout, from David Pick.
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Thanks for the update. That's sad that he didn't even make it in China. For his sake, I hope it was because his heart wasn't in it.

Kawhitstorm
10-31-2015, 04:16 PM
Ayres was the #1 pick.

:lmao

-21-
10-31-2015, 04:31 PM
Ayres was the #1 pick.

Shocking and hilarious but honestly, I'm happy for him.

tholdren
10-31-2015, 04:54 PM
Shocking and hilarious but honestly, I'm happy for him.
Why?

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 06:47 PM
Apparently, Jimmer and the Knicks had talks before the D-League draft; and the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster. This may explain why he didn't bolt for Europe like I figured he would. Jimmer also mentioned phone calls from other organizations and that he had turned down Euro offers.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/02/jimmer-fredette-has-his-eyes-on-knicks-15th-roster-spot/


Jimmer Fredette, the new point guard for the Westchester Knicks of the D-League, has his eyes on the Garden.
The sharpshooter out of upstate Glens Falls said he entered the D-League draft with the idea of the Knicks affiliate taking him and adding him as their 15th man later this season.
“That was kind of the plan,’’ Fredette said Monday on a conference call. “We talked to them beforehand and we hoped to make it work so I’d be drafted by the Knicks....


Jimmer's thoughts on the triangle offense...


“Every player in the triangle can play a different position on every possession,” Fredette said. “They don’t try to get caught up with who the point guard or shooting guard is. It’s just guards who can score and handle the ball and shoot and be a smart player to run it. I think that plays into my game. I can shoot the ball and handle it from different positions on the court. I think I can be successful in it.’’

TXstbobcat
11-08-2015, 06:50 PM
why do people care enough about Jimmer to keep this thread going??????

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 06:52 PM
Apparently, Jimmer and the Knicks had talks before the D-League draft; and the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster.There is no indication the New York Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster from this article.


The Knicks had no interest in signing Fredette to an NBA contract when he got waived, but got intrigued when San Antonio passed on his D-League rights. Westchester GM Allan Houston feels Fredette can be a fan magnet initially and perhaps light it up in the team’s triangle offense.

Do you have another source saying this?

Beaverfuzz
11-08-2015, 07:08 PM
That's a whole big bag full of suck.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 07:16 PM
why do people care enough about Jimmer to keep this thread going??????

Depends on who you ask, tbh.

benefactor
11-08-2015, 07:25 PM
Jimmer and the Knicks. Only the Lakers would have been a better match.

Chinook
11-08-2015, 07:28 PM
There is no indication the New York Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster from this article.



Do you have another source saying this?

God, so SA rejected him for the d-league. I mean, I would have chosen Thomas over Fredette too, but they specifically went out and signed Washburn to fill that fourth spot.

This is why I love the Spurs; they did the City of Austin a solid by keeping him away from the Toros.

ElNono
11-08-2015, 08:29 PM
If he signs with the Knicks, wouldn't that save the Spurs some money?

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 08:38 PM
If he signs with the Knicks, wouldn't that save the Spurs some money?He was drafted by the Westchester Knicks after every NBA team passed on picking up his partially guaranteed contract. He got all the money the Spurs guaranteed him.

Chinook
11-08-2015, 08:41 PM
If he signs with the Knicks, wouldn't that save the Spurs some money?

You don't get to set-off money that's less than the min.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 08:53 PM
God, so SA rejected him for the d-league. I mean, I would have chosen Thomas over Fredette too, but they specifically went out and signed Washburn to fill that fourth spot.

This is why I love the Spurs; they did the City of Austin a solid by keeping him away from the Toros.

Hack analysis.

Spurs would have kept Jimmer if he wanted to toil away in the d-league til a spot opened. Rather, they allowed him to pursue teams with openings on their rosters.

DarrinS
11-08-2015, 08:54 PM
Hack analysis.

Spurs would have kept Jimmer if he wanted to toil away in the d-league til a spot opened. Rather, they allowed him to pursue teams with openings on their rosters.

Why are you obsessed with this particular player? I never saw what all the fuss was about.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 08:57 PM
Why are you obsessed with this particular player? I never saw what all the fuss was about.

Nobody's asking you to fuss about anything.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 08:58 PM
Hack analysis.

Spurs would have kept Jimmer if he wanted to toil away in the d-league til a spot opened. Rather, they allowed him to pursue teams with openings on their rosters.Any team could have called up Jimmer from the Austin Spurs had he gone there.

DarrinS
11-08-2015, 09:04 PM
Nobody's asking you to fuss about anything.

Meh, carry on then. Keep up the good fight. I suspect Chump will wear you down.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:10 PM
Meh, carry on then. Keep up the good fight. I suspect Chump will wear you down.

He'll certainly try. :lol

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:11 PM
Any team could have called up Jimmer from the Austin Spurs had he gone there.

Then the Spurs didn't need to keep him. In fact, they could let him get more minutes if elsewhere if they're loaded in the backcourt as you claim.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:16 PM
Then the Spurs didn't need to keep him. In fact, they could let him get more minutes if elsewhere if they're loaded in the backcourt as you claim.The Spurs didn't need to keep them because they didn't want him at all. They could have just waived any other guard had Jimmer been wanted over them.

But they didn't want him just like no other NBA team wanted him.

playbonner15
11-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Nice! Hope Jimmer makes it back to the NBA and lights up SA when they play the Knicks :lol

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:33 PM
The Spurs didn't need to keep them because they didn't want him at all. They could have just waived any other guard had Jimmer been wanted over them.

But they didn't want him just like no other NBA team wanted him.

We've established that your opening statement is not at all a statement of fact. And the Knicks clearly want Jimmer.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:34 PM
Nice! Hope Jimmer makes it back to the NBA and lights up SA when they play the Knicks :lol

I don't blame the Spurs for making their decision; and I doubt Jimmer does. I wish they would have given him more run to really show what he could do. Playing Parker big preseason minutes coming off of international competish didn't make sense to me.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:35 PM
We've established that your opening statement is not at all a statement of fact.He certainly wasn't kept by the Spurs in any way.
And the Knicks clearly want Jimmer.No, the New York Knicks clearly do not want Jimmer since they passed on picking up his contract for their open roster spot.

Just like every NBA team passed on taking it.

You'll just have to accept that fact.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:40 PM
He certainly wasn't kept by the Spurs in any way.No, the New York Knicks clearly do not want Jimmer since they passed on picking up his contract for their open roster spot.

Just like every NBA team passed on taking it.

You'll just have to accept that fact.

Well, if you looked at the article, there is a spot for the taking; and the Knicks used their first round pick on him for a reason. The Knicks apparently want to allow Jimmer to learn their system in the d-league first.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:42 PM
Well, if you looked at the article, there is a spot for the taking; and the Knicks used their first round pick on him for a reason. The Knicks apparently want to allow Jimmer to learn their system in the d-league first.I did look at the article. They didn't care enough to sign him to the 15th spot. They could've easily done that and assigned him if they were that intent on having him reserved for the NBA team. It's just as easy to say they want to sell some seats in the suburbs. The Austin Spurs did it quite a bit.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:45 PM
I did look at the article. They didn't care enough to sign him to the 15th spot. They could've easily done that and assigned him if they were that intent on having him reserved for the NBA team. It's just as easy to say they want to sell some seats in the suburbs. The Austin Spurs did it quite a bit.

You may recall that I said that this could be about ticket sales and TV ratings just as much as anything. But I don't think that the 15th spot isn't up for grabs and that Jimmer doesn't have a realistic shot to get it.

ElNono
11-08-2015, 09:46 PM
He was drafted by the Westchester Knicks after every NBA team passed on picking up his partially guaranteed contract. He got all the money the Spurs guaranteed him.


You don't get to set-off money that's less than the min.

thanks

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:48 PM
You may recall that I said that this could be about ticket sales and TV ratings just as much as anything. But I don't think that the 15th spot isn't up for grabs and that Jimmer doesn't have a realistic shot to get it.Well sure it's up for grabs because it's an open spot. It could be filled by any free agent or D-League player. You just proved it isn't reserved for Jimmer.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:50 PM
Well sure it's up for grabs because it's an open spot. It could be filled by any free agent or D-League player. You just proved it isn't reserved for Jimmer.

I never said it was reserved. But you have Jimmer talking about how it is "planned." I don't think he's that make that up. That does mean that it could be contingent upon his play for Westchester though.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:53 PM
I never said it was reserved. But you have Jimmer talking about how it is "planned." I don't think he's that make that up. That does mean that it could be contingent upon his play for Westchester though.


Well, if you looked at the article, there is a spot for the taking; and the Knicks used their first round pick on him for a reason. The Knicks apparently want to allow Jimmer to learn their system in the d-league first.


We've established that your opening statement is not at all a statement of fact. And the Knicks clearly want Jimmer.


Apparently, Jimmer and the Knicks had talks before the D-League draft; and the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster.
lol

It's good that you're walking back now though.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:54 PM
lol

It's good that you're walking back now though.

I haven't walkled a damn thing back.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:56 PM
I haven't walkled a damn thing back.


We've established that your opening statement is not at all a statement of fact. And the Knicks clearly want Jimmer.


Apparently, Jimmer and the Knicks had talks before the D-League draft; and the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster.


I never said it was reserved. But you have Jimmer talking about how it is "planned." I don't think he's that make that up. That does mean that it could be contingent upon his play for Westchester though.lol

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 09:58 PM
You and your lame machinations thinking they add up to anything....

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 09:59 PM
You and your lame machinations thinking they add up to anything....Machinations?

They're your words.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 10:01 PM
Machinations?

They're your words.

And your lack of comprehension. What's your point?

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 10:05 PM
And your lack of comprehension. What's your point?You went from "clearly want[ing] Jimmer" and "the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster" to conceding that the open spot could go to any free agent or D-League player and that Jimmer's drafting could just be to sell tickets.

It's OK. You got it right eventually.

Spurtacular
11-08-2015, 10:11 PM
You went from "clearly want[ing] Jimmer" and "the Knicks plan on having Jimmer on their roster" to conceding that the open spot could go to any free agent or D-League player and that Jimmer's drafting could just be to sell tickets.

It's OK. You got it right eventually.

I went to what I stated all along. I never said anything was guaranteed.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2015, 10:12 PM
I went to what I stated all along. I never said anything was guaranteed."clearly"

lol