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benefactor
10-30-2021, 01:52 PM
so how does texas plan to blow todays 4th q lead

any predictions?
Fake punt that should have never happened. It's like they are inventing new ways to lose

leemajors
10-30-2021, 01:52 PM
woohoo all gas my ass.....more like all shit

I don't know if anyone could coach this mentally deficient team well.

Kermit
10-30-2021, 02:00 PM
This football program is a fucking cancer.

leemajors
10-30-2021, 02:02 PM
Bijan should enter the portal immediately after the game

benefactor
10-30-2021, 02:17 PM
:lol this shit team

Neo.
10-30-2021, 02:18 PM
what a surprise

mental lapses

dropped passes

casey melting down after defensive adjustments

mix em up and you got texas football

Kermit
10-30-2021, 02:18 PM
I think we’ve seen enough of Casey Thompson.

GAustex
10-30-2021, 02:26 PM
Same ol shit

leemajors
10-30-2021, 02:28 PM
It seems like we made another home run hire!

playblair
10-30-2021, 02:36 PM
bruh i have never see the texas gameday crew as angry as they are in the post game show.........griffin/fozzy just obliterated the roster/o line/strength coach betcon............said the roster was untalented........said the strength coach is the reason the team is fatigued........said the oline was turrible...........

playblair
10-30-2021, 02:37 PM
whoever said texas is aggy mid 2000s was correct

griffith
10-30-2021, 03:33 PM
For me personally it's really hard for to see who's the blame... coaching staff or players, because most of this roster is still players from Tom Herman era, if this shit is still happening after Sarks 3rd year than yeah, but even at that if you think about it, 2004-2008 were only good stretch of years for the program had in almost 3 decades. So them having seasons like this is actually common place for them. This team right now reminds me of Mack Browns teams before VY happened... playing not to lose

Neo.
10-30-2021, 03:37 PM
it takes time for a coach to really get his system in place. all of the issues so far reek of tom hermans tenure, so I am willing to cut sark some slack

longhorncliff
10-30-2021, 04:41 PM
Herman was wrong,losing is easy.

Billybass
10-30-2021, 05:11 PM
Come on basketball

Eastexhorn
10-30-2021, 05:33 PM
it takes time for a coach to really get his system in place. all of the issues so far reek of tom hermans tenure, so I am willing to cut sark some slack

Why Toms players did not call fake punt main cause of loss.

Some was saying Toms trouble was Charlies players.

If Sark does not like players sit them on bench and give others a chance. All except OL not enough players to sub a clmplete line.

Neo.
10-30-2021, 06:15 PM
Why Toms players did not call fake punt main cause of loss.

Some was saying Toms trouble was Charlies players.

If Sark does not like players sit them on bench and give others a chance. All except OL not enough players to sub a clmplete line.

might as well blame sark for josh moore playing like a retard and casey melting down again too :rolleyes

benefactor
10-30-2021, 06:25 PM
I think we’ve seen enough of Casey Thompson.
He was never that good. Card is probably a backup too. Sark is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit

Come on down, Maalik Murphy.

Neo.
10-30-2021, 06:32 PM
He was never that good. Card is probably a backup too. Sark is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit

Come on down, Maalik Murphy.

he's a product of attention to bijan

take away his first read and bailout option and he has nothing, which is why he's awesome the first half and sucks the second half for 4 straight games

playblair
10-31-2021, 12:51 AM
Come on basketball
texas plays the #1 team in the country week 2

pgardn
10-31-2021, 11:12 AM
He was never that good. Card is probably a backup too. Sark is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit

Come on down, Maalik Murphy.

1st year starting quarterbacks, horrible offensive line, sark is a good enough play caller and we have guys like Bijan and X Worthy and he made something out of it. Malik Murphy looks to be horribly raw. And throw him in with a bad offensive line... Hes done.

And again, our D line and maybe even defensive concept is pitiful. And we were still in the game... Not gonna win obviously, but if another team took the field in the 2nd half we would certainly have a chance. I wonder which young guys that stay on the oline are salvageable. I dont see how we just start over. Grad transfers. The kid from Rice worked out OK for us. He filled in at LT.

Just take a look at OSU v. Penn St. last night. The talent along the defensive fronts compared to ours... makes ours look pitiful. Their guys can actually run, penetrate, put pressure on the RBS and QB. They are... athletes. We have one play big bumblers. The transfer kid from ND is OK but holy shit....

Biggems
10-31-2021, 03:43 PM
it all starts with the OL. They suck at pass protection, even against 3 man fronts. They suck at run blocking, shows you how great Bijan actually is. They commit too many damned penalties.

We need to hit on our next 2 classes of OL recruits in a big way and change the culture of our front 5. We need some serious road graders. We need some fat nasties who want to simply mentally, emotionally and physically abuse the opposition. We haven't had that kind of OL talent in well over a decade.

Neo.
10-31-2021, 06:10 PM
the fact that despite so many shortcomings that with one or two breaks they could easily have won the last 3 games all against ranked opponents shows they have plenty of talent overall. just not on the lines.

simply improve the trenches to an average level, and even with casey/card next year they win the big12 (if not in sec by then) and bijan wins heisman.

Billybass
10-31-2021, 08:18 PM
Problem is with OLine, there is no quick fix. When you suck, makes it really tough to get the big names. And when you do get the top guys, they usually need to be red shirted (see brockmeyers with alabama)

So even when you get the top recruit, it will be a couple years before they can make a difference. First thing is to get the top recruit. And that won’t be easy when they see the mess we got.

So no quick fix, and you can’t beat good teams with an Oline like we got.

Neo.
10-31-2021, 08:41 PM
Problem is with OLine, there is no quick fix. When you suck, makes it really tough to get the big names. And when you do get the top guys, they usually need to be red shirted (see brockmeyers with alabama)

So even when you get the top recruit, it will be a couple years before they can make a difference. First thing is to get the top recruit. And that won’t be easy when they see the mess we got.

So no quick fix, and you can’t beat good teams with an Oline like we got.

if you're talking about it quickly turning elite, then of course that's a stupid expectation. but considering the majority of the line consists of juniors and freshmen, there is definitely opportunity for natural growth and good coaching to help improve the quality of the line

additionally there is opportunity to get transfers as well

so there absolutely is an opportunity for a "quick fix" for the line to improve from trash to serviceable by next season. will it happen? that's another story but sark deserves his chance

Billybass
11-01-2021, 11:31 AM
Sark does deserve his chance. No argument there.

his challenge will be to recruit high profile Oline guys. If he gets Campbell, and a couple of others, things will be trending in the right direction.
the guys that are there now such as Karik need a lot of work, and should not be on the field. How many Oline guys did we get last cycle ? Wasn’t it 2 ? If so, there ain’t much in the pipeline. Sark has GOT to do better than that, or he won’t last long.

GAustex
11-01-2021, 09:55 PM
Lol
Special teams coach stripper GF’s monkey bites trick o treater
“The Pole Assassin” lol

pgardn
11-02-2021, 10:39 AM
“A 11 /12 year old child should know better then to enter someone yard without permission and old enough to also follow the rules,” she added. “The rules were when u get to the gate turn around and come back out for candy every other parent and child did so !”

why the hell do 20 States with more in the process of banning monkeys as pets in the home? She says to the 11 yo child... why o why? The rules.... keep your damn pet locked up when kids are around DURING HALLOWEEN, how about that rule?

Are we on the way to more nutty asst. coaches and stripper stuff? That should help with recruiting.

Eastexhorn
11-02-2021, 12:04 PM
Biggest problem is lack of numbers for DBS and OL. Then there is lack of spaces to fill the amount needed at these positions, plus other needs at other positions.

Trill Clinton
11-02-2021, 01:39 PM
“A 11 /12 year old child should know better then to enter someone yard without permission and old enough to also follow the rules,” she added. “The rules were when u get to the gate turn around and come back out for candy every other parent and child did so !”

why the hell do 20 States with more in the process of banning monkeys as pets in the home? She says to the 11 yo child... why o why? The rules.... keep your damn pet locked up when kids are around DURING HALLOWEEN, how about that rule?

Are we on the way to more nutty asst. coaches and stripper stuff? That should help with recruiting.

The monkey was in a cage in the backyard. The kid was trespassing.

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GAustex
11-02-2021, 02:02 PM
Struggling to determine if this is the type of publicity ut needs or wants. Maybe so as it deflects from putrid on field performance

GAustex
11-02-2021, 02:42 PM
A
Strippers
Monkey
Lol

Kermit
11-02-2021, 02:45 PM
One our coaches is dating a working stripper with a pet monkey that bites children. That’s not even the craziest thing about this season so far.

GAustex
11-02-2021, 03:21 PM
Wait wait
There is something more crazy than the assistant coaches GF the stripper “The Pole Assassin” monkey biting a kid.
What is crazier than that?

Eastexhorn
11-02-2021, 03:31 PM
What crazier Texas signing 3-4OL.

playblair
11-02-2021, 04:20 PM
The monkey was in a cage in the backyard. The kid was trespassing.

1455378464488529925
fook u always defending ghetto trash kneegrows& u never admit when a kneegrow is wrong.........newsflash kneegrow black monkeys are the worst species of humans all over the world.........

FkLA
11-02-2021, 04:30 PM
How do you even hire a guy who leaves his kids and wife for a stripper girlfriend to be an FBS coordinator? :lmao

GAustex
11-02-2021, 04:32 PM
I read he was scum back when he was aggies coach

Trill Clinton
11-02-2021, 07:49 PM
fook u always defending ghetto trash kneegrows& u never admit when a kneegrow is wrong.........newsflash kneegrow black monkeys are the worst species of humans all over the world.........

Cam we please get this hate speech removed from this thread?

Billybass
11-02-2021, 09:59 PM
Yep old bbrrrrruuuuhhhhhh playblair has some serious issues

Kermit
11-03-2021, 08:45 PM
So, Joshua Moore is gone?

bluetrumpet
11-04-2021, 09:41 AM
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Trill Clinton
11-04-2021, 09:41 AM
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Billybass
11-04-2021, 12:28 PM
First good news in a long time

playblair
11-04-2021, 12:43 PM
First good news in a long time
it only gets worse
https://www.on3.com/boards/attachments/6f2b0ea3-09ef-4df5-a1f8-290bb6110250-jpeg.158700/

pgardn
11-06-2021, 09:11 AM
So this place is hopping looking forward to the Iowa st. game I see.

Texas.
Fight.

Half of you scream Texas, the other half Fight.

Here we go... *cue bull frog croaking on a lonely pond*

GAustex
11-06-2021, 10:40 AM
Ames at night
Lol
Cyclones gonna run a train

ProgramaticNonFit
11-06-2021, 02:37 PM
Aggies land #2 rivals recruit in nation....they be killin it....Sark is killin it with the 3 stars.....oy vey

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32567177/texas-aggies-land-verbal-commitment-no-1-recruit-2022-class-defensive-tackle-walter-nolen

griffith
11-06-2021, 07:44 PM
after that run by Thompson that he was short for the first down, two things come to mind that could be happening with him. 1) He is afraid to get hit, or 2) He is getting bad advice from somebody to stand in the pocket like a statue.

Dennis the Menace
11-06-2021, 08:14 PM
Half time lead for the 6th straight game. Cheers

Biggems
11-06-2021, 09:00 PM
it would be nice if they would actually call ISU OL for a freakin holding call.

Biggems
11-06-2021, 09:09 PM
this team is a whole lotta suck

griffith
11-06-2021, 09:31 PM
i knew that OU loss would kill this team for the rest of the season, time to look forward to next year

GAustex
11-06-2021, 10:04 PM
The play by play dude says “ Texas wishes the could STRIP it down and start all over again”

Mocked
A joke
It’s not Sarkesian it’s the institution that is putrid.

GAustex
11-06-2021, 10:41 PM
So typical
Fooled by a simple lateral to the flanker who throws to a wide open receiver behind our totally fooled safety

pgardn
11-06-2021, 10:56 PM
The play by play dude says “ Texas wishes the could STRIP it down and start all over again”

Mocked
A joke
It’s not Sarkesian it’s the institution that is putrid.

This makes absolutely no sense.
It’s the lib thing or what? Because this is not what the alumni are. Or the institution. You are famous for blending politics where it does not belong as Sorry-ass mind numbingly dumb excuses.

But I will say this, not only are we bad.
We are definitely soft as whipped cream.
No guts, no consistency. We knew it was going to be bad with an o line with no talent and no QBs with a real college start.
But this is a complete meltdown, guys falling over their own feet.
We have guys that have forgotten how to even run on grass...

Robinson needs to head for the draft ASAP. We got guys on the oline looking for guys to block as dbs are waltzing past them crushing our RBs. Hit someone in the mouth every damn play. Never have trouble finding someone to hit. You don’t block only fat guys on the other team. Hit anything on the other team.

Our fitness and mental state as bad as I have ever seen.
This is the worst team at UT I have ever seen.
UTSA would absolutely beat us.

Eastexhorn
11-07-2021, 09:42 AM
Team the year before DKR took over might have been worse.

Eastexhorn
11-07-2021, 09:46 AM
QBS no excuse TCU started a freshman first game and had a great offense vs Baylor. Maybe Sark had ready made players at Ala.

Eastexhorn
11-07-2021, 09:49 AM
after that run by Thompson that he was short for the first down, two things come to mind that could be happening with him. 1) He is afraid to get hit, or 2) He is getting bad advice from somebody to stand in the pocket like a statue.

#2

GAustex
11-07-2021, 10:44 AM
Thompson I think has a hurt hand

Neo.
11-07-2021, 11:58 AM
Our fitness and mental state as bad as I have ever seen.
This is the worst team at UT I have ever seen.
UTSA would absolutely beat us.

all three charlie strong years were clearly worse, as well as the year after colt ruined the program

they were literally one or two missed plays (despite complete second half meltdowns) from beating OU, OKst and Baylor

Billybass
11-07-2021, 06:55 PM
all three charlie strong years were clearly worse, as well as the year after colt ruined the program

they were literally one or two missed plays (despite complete second half meltdowns) from beating OU, OKst and Baylor
That is incorrect sir. All 3 games the second half was dominated by the opponents. This team is in freefall. They have lost confidence. It is what it is. And a lot of the blame falls on Sark.
How can a team look so good in the first half and so bad in the second half for four games in a row ? I have never seen anything like it. Just brutal to watch. Really sad and discouraging.

pgardn
11-07-2021, 08:50 PM
all three charlie strong years were clearly worse, as well as the year after colt ruined the program

they were literally one or two missed plays (despite complete second half meltdowns) from beating OU, OKst and Baylor

Totally disagree.
We are a runaway meltdown since OU where we were dominated 2nd half.
Who do you really have confidence we will beat other than Kansas at this point in the season?
Free fall is the correct assessment. Every game is exponentially worse than the game before now.

Kermit
11-07-2021, 09:26 PM
Kansas gonna fuck this soft ass team up.

pgardn
11-07-2021, 10:07 PM
Kansas gonna fuck this soft ass team up.

You know...
This is definitely realistic.
We are so bad.

Neo.
11-07-2021, 11:13 PM
That is incorrect sir. All 3 games the second half was dominated by the opponents. This team is in freefall. They have lost confidence. It is what it is. And a lot of the blame falls on Sark.
How can a team look so good in the first half and so bad in the second half for four games in a row ? I have never seen anything like it. Just brutal to watch. Really sad and discouraging.


Totally disagree.
We are a runaway meltdown since OU where we were dominated 2nd half.
Who do you really have confidence we will beat other than Kansas at this point in the season?
Free fall is the correct assessment. Every game is exponentially worse than the game before now.

:lmao thinking strong years were actually better than this

yes this is bad, but it's not even comparable to how bad the team was those years

and also obviously incapable of reading

Blake
11-08-2021, 12:42 AM
Kansas gonna fuck this soft ass team up.

All ass, no brakes

Billybass
11-08-2021, 03:42 PM
All ass, no brakes
all first half, no second half

Kermit
11-08-2021, 09:40 PM
All ass, no brakes

Go on…

/Urban Meyer

griffith
11-09-2021, 01:16 AM
So glad Moore is leaving

rjv
11-09-2021, 12:18 PM
So glad Moore is leaving

wonder where this kid will land. so much talent but so many issues.

Eastexhorn
11-09-2021, 01:16 PM
So glad Moore is leaving

Why? Second best talented on team and no replacement with talent near to his.

playblair
11-09-2021, 03:16 PM
whichever player leaked that bo davis tape needs to transfer asap..........that tape proves its the players who are the problem not the coaches........

Ballin42
11-09-2021, 04:06 PM
whichever player leaked that bo davis tape needs to transfer asap..........that tape proves its the players who are the problem not the coaches........


I said the same thing on another board, this screams josh Moore. That’s some baby shit right there. You get your ass handed to you then video a coach jumping your shit. Time to purge this roster.

Dennis the Menace
11-09-2021, 04:22 PM
Bo Davis is our standard. Brought the energy

Dennis the Menace
11-09-2021, 04:23 PM
Give him a raise

longhorncliff
11-09-2021, 04:30 PM
Bo knows football.

playblair
11-09-2021, 04:51 PM
starting to leak that evan stewart committed to the ags

griffith
11-09-2021, 08:36 PM
After watching that video it makes me even more positive this coaching staff needs another year or two to have the players on their team that they want, obvious still hold overs from Herman era that are as childish as he was, point in case with Moore leaving two days later

Dennis the Menace
11-09-2021, 08:53 PM
I heard worse things from Middle School coaches on bus rides after games. Having coaches like Bo Davis gives me hope for this program.

GAustex
11-09-2021, 09:05 PM
Maybe Bo and Sark can change the stank. I think it’s too deep and will swallow them too.
Maybe not.
I wonder how long the BB coach will last?

rogcl1
11-10-2021, 12:22 AM
Maybe Bo and Sark can change the stank. I think it’s too deep and will swallow them too.
Maybe not.
I wonder how long the BB coach will last?

The basketball coach isn't f_______ around. Brought in transfers and not relying on the shit that is in the program. Sark needs to do the same.

rogcl1
11-10-2021, 12:36 AM
Give him a raise

A large raise and more input.

DMX7
11-10-2021, 02:55 PM
After watching that video it makes me even more positive this coaching staff needs another year or two to have the players on their team that they want, obvious still hold overs from Herman era that are as childish as he was, point in case with Moore leaving two days later

The problem is if he keeps losing he's got less of a shot at the players he wants.

griffith
11-10-2021, 04:04 PM
The problem is if he keeps losing he's got less of a shot at the players he wants.

Talent wise yes, character wise no, I mean look at what ISU has been doing to UT past couple years with so called 3 or 4 star recruits. Just needs to get guys who will buy in to his way of coaching

DMX7
11-10-2021, 08:01 PM
Talent wise yes, character wise no, I mean look at what ISU has been doing to UT past couple years with so called 3 or 4 star recruits. Just needs to get guys who will buy in to his way of coaching

If ISU is the standard then Sark may not last long there.

FkLA
11-10-2021, 08:19 PM
So what was the thought process of the player that recorded it and released it? Did he think he was going to get Davis in trouble or cause an uproar? What a pussy.

I heard worse shit than that in 7th grade football. Didn't even cross my mind to try to make it out to be more than just an ass chewing.

GAustex
11-13-2021, 02:57 PM
It’s OK
ut has a coach who has a girl friend who is a world famous stripper named the Pole Assassin who has a monkey.

benefactor
11-13-2021, 03:31 PM
Down goes B:lol:lolmer. It was only a matter of time

GAustex
11-13-2021, 04:06 PM
Bears kick a FG with 3 seconds left. Fuck ou
Baylor today is my new favorite team.

Billybass
11-13-2021, 04:23 PM
Baylor was gonna run the clock out, but Riley thru a fit about 3 seconds being on the clock. Forced both teams back on the field. I hope that cost him in one of the tiebreakers.

Biggems
11-13-2021, 08:06 PM
The fucking quitters getting bitch-slapped in their own house by Kansas....rock bottom ladies and gentlemen.

Arcadian
11-13-2021, 08:54 PM
:lmao Texas...faggots

griffith
11-13-2021, 09:06 PM
These players acting like they got their feelings hurt by coach Davis, everyone is sleep walking especially on defense

Dennis the Menace
11-13-2021, 09:11 PM
I don’t see football players. I see kids getting free college tuition who have a football hobby

Biggems
11-13-2021, 09:38 PM
so on offense it is either TD or turnover.

the D is playing like, well they aren't even playing. Fuck this loser unit.

GAustex
11-13-2021, 09:39 PM
It’s OK
ut has a coach who has a girl friend who is a world famous stripper named the Pole Assassin who has a monkey.

Biggems
11-13-2021, 09:45 PM
Lincoln Riley all butt hurt about the late FG....fuck him. He always runs up the score with his starters and acts like a cocky little bastard when his team is winning. When it happens to him, he gets all butt hurt and acts like it is a crime of ethics......

I personally have never had issues with teams running up, or even passing up, the score. I say score as much as you can when you can. If the other team doesn't like it, play better defense. Now, I will say, if you are up big, keep playing the same game plan, but allow your backups to get some valuable game action. You never know when they will be needed because of injury, suspension, or whatever.

Biggems
11-13-2021, 09:45 PM
that stripper if fugly as hell too

Biggems
11-13-2021, 10:29 PM
poor throw by Thompson on 3rd down.....we needed that one desperately

Neo.
11-13-2021, 10:39 PM
literally they should give serious consideration to only giving worthy and bijan starting spots next year. everyone else should be automatically given backup spots to true freshmen and make them earn their spots

Biggems
11-13-2021, 10:54 PM
The Beards are getting raped by the Zags right now...the Zags refuse to miss a shot.

Kermit
11-13-2021, 11:07 PM
Can we just burn the stadium to the ground? It’s the only way to be sure.

GAustex
11-13-2021, 11:12 PM
Credit should be given for the fight back.

griffith
11-13-2021, 11:15 PM
what the actual fuck.... wow lol, i bet some furniture was being thrown in that locker room at halftime, whether they lose or win, helluva an effort coming back

Biggems
11-13-2021, 11:15 PM
The D finally showed some heart. The O is doing pretty good when not turning the ball over.

Blake
11-13-2021, 11:16 PM
Credit should be given for the fight back.

Lol sure. Great comeback against a team that cracked 34 points today for the first time all season!

RD2191
11-13-2021, 11:20 PM
Credit should be given for the fight back.


what the actual fuck.... wow lol, i bet some furniture was being thrown in that locker room at halftime, whether they lose or win, helluva an effort coming back
This is embarrassing.

griffith
11-13-2021, 11:33 PM
Schooler challenging his inner Blake Gideon

Kermit
11-13-2021, 11:34 PM
Credit should be given for the fight back.

And how did that turn out? Fuck this team. Fuck the coaches. Fuck the administration. Fuck everything. This is what we deserve, and we still haven’t hit rock bottom.

Arcadian
11-13-2021, 11:34 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

Biggems
11-13-2021, 11:35 PM
well we lost....

BTW, 2 holding penalties should have been called on KU in OT....the center on the QB run to the 3. Then on the final play by 77 on our DE. I know we should not have been in that position but we were.

I knew when Schooler dropped the INT, a la Gideon, it was a bad omen.

griffith
11-13-2021, 11:36 PM
This is embarrassing.
we are far beyond that, it's been embarrassing since 1st quarter of 2009 National Title game against Bama, but honestly outside of 2004-2008 and the 60s UT really hasn't ever been consistent year in and year out. Expectations are wayyyyy too high

Biggems
11-13-2021, 11:37 PM
Timme reminds me of that epic douchebag Pau Gasol from when he was a Laker.

benefactor
11-13-2021, 11:42 PM
If this is what it takes to finally change this soft ass culture, so be it

Dennis the Menace
11-13-2021, 11:49 PM
Dropped interception was Gideonesque

Dennis the Menace
11-13-2021, 11:57 PM
Casey Thompson had a solid game. 6 TD’s 1 Int

Defense needs work. Whether that’s new players or scheme, or combo of both.

Foster is a huge let down

Trill Clinton
11-14-2021, 12:00 AM
Okay who getting fired?

GAustex
11-14-2021, 12:03 AM
Biijon and 24 got hurt
Costly game

Neo.
11-14-2021, 12:07 AM
If this is what it takes to finally change this soft ass culture, so be it

clean house completely

the only players worth anything is bijan and worthy

play nothing but freshmen and sophomores next year all year, let all the juniors and seniors transfer away. be willing to eat another bad season but set a tone that the culture is going to change and egos won't be tolerated anymore no matter how talented you are.

Kermit
11-14-2021, 12:23 AM
clean house completely

the only players worth anything is bijan and worthy

play nothing but freshmen and sophomores next year all year, let all the juniors and seniors transfer away. be willing to eat another bad season but set a tone that the culture is going to change and egos won't be tolerated anymore no matter how talented you are.

They’re going to have to work the transfer portal too. This should be rock bottom, but I doubt it is.

Dennis the Menace
11-14-2021, 01:13 AM
They need to bring in as many Juco OL as possible

Eastexhorn
11-14-2021, 09:37 AM
They need to bring in as many Juco OL as possible

At least 10 spaces open 25+ 7. minus the 22 commitments

Biggems
11-14-2021, 10:55 AM
we are all down on schooler cause he is not good in coverage and he pulled a gideon. however, there was only 1 player on defense out there who was playing each play from start to finish and that was schooler. unfortunately, he doesn't have the athletic ability that many of the loafers on D do. He is pretty much all heart and guts.

on offense, our RBs are pretty good, but are getting knocked out, cause the OL is shit. Oh, what could have been had Thompson not injured his thumb against OU? Card is still a deer in the headlights. We had some WRs quit, sign of the times with these "I want it now bitches running around the field." However, Worthy and Washington have shown they are ready to bring it every game. I know Washington has had some suspect hands in a few of the games, but at least the effort is there. We need better TEs, though Brewer is decent when we use him correctly as a down field target. The OL is pure garbage. I hate this OL. Give me the All-Pro DL of the 1970s from the NFL, and those old fellas would be racking up sacks, pressures, hits, and tackles for loss against these gutless, nutless, soft, mediocre, fat bastards that are wearing the burned orange and white. These fat fucks are getting fat off all the free meals they get, getting a free education, and they haven't done shit to earn it. Thank goodness Robinson is such an elite player, cause if he were Selvin Young like, he would only have 500 yds on the year.

Also, can we get rid of the stripper coach. Apparently, the players have lost all respect for him. It is apparent that they refuse to give effort or follow his leadership. Send him off to go spank the monkey with his GF, and hire a more respectable coach.

Blake
11-14-2021, 11:17 AM
Timme reminds me of that epic douchebag Pau Gasol from when he was a Laker.

Was thinking same thing.

Neo.
11-14-2021, 11:18 AM
The OL is pure garbage. I hate this OL. Give me the All-Pro DL of the 1970s from the NFL, and those old fellas would be racking up sacks, pressures, hits, and tackles for loss against these gutless, nutless, soft, mediocre, fat bastards that are wearing the burned orange and white. These fat fucks are getting fat off all the free meals they get, getting a free education, and they haven't done shit to earn it.

um.... duh? lol

pgardn
11-14-2021, 11:30 AM
This makes absolutely no sense.
It’s the lib thing or what? Because this is not what the alumni are. Or the institution. You are famous for blending politics where it does not belong as Sorry-ass mind numbingly dumb excuses.

But I will say this, not only are we bad.
We are definitely soft as whipped cream.
No guts, no consistency. We knew it was going to be bad with an o line with no talent and no QBs with a real college start.
But this is a complete meltdown, guys falling over their own feet.
We have guys that have forgotten how to even run on grass...

Robinson needs to head for the draft ASAP. We got guys on the oline looking for guys to block as dbs are waltzing past them crushing our RBs. Hit someone in the mouth every damn play. Never have trouble finding someone to hit. You don’t block only fat guys on the other team. Hit anything on the other team.

Our fitness and mental state as bad as I have ever seen.
This is the worst team at UT I have ever seen.
UTSA would absolutely beat us.


all three charlie strong years were clearly worse, as well as the year after colt ruined the program

they were literally one or two missed plays (despite complete second half meltdowns) from beating OU, OKst and Baylor

Sure thing.
We are in free fall.
We are the worst team in the conference besides ... maybe TCU.
This is much worse than any Charlie strong team. Its not even close.
The only reason it looks salvageable is we now know what one major problem is switching coaches that did not get solved. Herman's players buying in.
Sark alluded to this very early on. after the Arky game he mentioned that having problems clearly displayed allows you not to be fooled about how good you are and tells the coaches where players stand.


The defense was absolutely horrid and again showed how our d line is just not athletic at all. Any QB that has legs is a threat against our defense.

Dont be fooled by Thompson's stats. Something is clearly wrong with his head and hand. Give him credit for hanging, but decision making and actually throwing... flip a coin every play. Any RB playing on this team better have on extra protective gear. Luckily Kansas got dead tired on D last night, or others besides Bijan will die on the field.

Ask the old dudes.
This is the worst team they have ever seen. Except for the guys still alive from the Bible era.

CosmicCowboy
11-14-2021, 11:39 AM
Kansas was rock bottom. 30 point favorites to lose to one of the worst teams in the country. From here on out the rocks just get piled on and bury them. Sark has lost this team. How can you recruit 5 star quarterbacks when they see our totally incompetent offensive line and our qb scrambling for his life almost every play?

CosmicCowboy
11-14-2021, 11:44 AM
Just be glad we no longer play A&M on Thanksgiving day.

CosmicCowboy
11-14-2021, 11:48 AM
Looks like Bijan Robinson is out for the season with the elbow injury. This team may very well drive Sark back to drinking.

Das Texan
11-14-2021, 01:00 PM
Good.

Wins in the past were able to mask the overall culture issues with this sad ass squad

Weed out the trash players, bring in a few via transfer portal and sign kids that actually play with heart and determination.

Sorry sad sack of shit generally speaking. The best players (from a talent perspective) on defense give the least amount of fucks. The worst players (talent wise) are the ones playing with the most heart. And its not even fucking close.

Sad.

Neo.
11-14-2021, 01:18 PM
Sure thing.
We are in free fall.
We are the worst team in the conference besides ... maybe TCU.
This is much worse than any Charlie strong team. Its not even close.
The only reason it looks salvageable is we now know what one major problem is switching coaches that did not get solved. Herman's players buying in.
Sark alluded to this very early on. after the Arky game he mentioned that having problems clearly displayed allows you not to be fooled about how good you are and tells the coaches where players stand.


The defense was absolutely horrid and again showed how our d line is just not athletic at all. Any QB that has legs is a threat against our defense.

Dont be fooled by Thompson's stats. Something is clearly wrong with his head and hand. Give him credit for hanging, but decision making and actually throwing... flip a coin every play. Any RB playing on this team better have on extra protective gear. Luckily Kansas got dead tired on D last night, or others besides Bijan will die on the field.

Ask the old dudes.
This is the worst team they have ever seen. Except for the guys still alive from the Bible era.

this is arguably the most pathetic team in texas history, i wont argue that whatsoever

but in terms of talent and ability, its still clearly ahead of those charlie strong teams. they have just clearly given up, whether its the players being egotistical, or the coaches having lost all respect from the players

either way, its time to make drastic changes.

Blake
11-14-2021, 01:42 PM
Just be glad we no longer play A&M on Thanksgiving day.

Breaking news: UT will be joining the SEC.

CosmicCowboy
11-14-2021, 01:53 PM
Breaking news: UT will be joining the SEC.

Uhhh no shit, dumbass. I was talking about this next Thanksgiving. At least Sark has a couple years to get the players he wants to compete in the SEC.

Eastexhorn
11-14-2021, 03:01 PM
E. Price's last year was worse team I remember Bibles was notthat bad.

Eastexhorn
11-14-2021, 03:02 PM
What Texas nedsis another ex OU QB to coach them.

Blake
11-14-2021, 05:24 PM
At least Sark has a couple years to get the players he wants to compete in the SEC.

1459742766838255618

Yeah he needs to do way better than 52 four star + players.

griffith
11-14-2021, 05:30 PM
after watching the press conference it's looking more like the locker room is split between Team Sark v Team Herman, especially with some of the responses from the players and play on the field last night

Neo.
11-14-2021, 06:01 PM
after watching the press conference it's looking more like the locker room is split between Team Sark v Team Herman, especially with some of the responses from the players and play on the field last night

yep the Herman side gotta go at this point. don't play any of them another snap.

FrostKing
11-14-2021, 06:56 PM
Breaking news: UT will be joining the SEC.
Brutal

pgardn
11-14-2021, 07:34 PM
E. Price's last year was worse team I remember Bibles was notthat bad.

Oops.
Thats actually who they said.
My bad.
Thanks.

pgardn
11-14-2021, 07:55 PM
And I am getting tired of this change the culture stuff. I think posters are talking very different things possibly.
Exactly what needs to be changed within the culture? Each coach has a style and a way of doing things. Tom Herman kisses? Charlie Strong and his running a lifting weights with the players?

One poster hinted at the time it had to do with the BLM movementstuff, then later the eyes of Texas, etc...
Well Nick Saban fkn walked with his players in a BLM march and then they marched straight to the championship so no its NOT that cultural stuff.

We have posters who seem to know what goes on between the admin and the coaches and they tell the coaches how to address "culture" ?

What I see is what sark had hinted at. There are players who like a certain style of coach. It happened when Strong said he would change the "culture" . Herman the same. Im not getting it. We have a culture were players are told what? and then think what? We dont work hard enough? Just getting frustrated and screaming culture! is not making it clear enough.

Adding on to this giant new stadium...? all these fancy lockers? Every team in college sports is trying to address upgrades? It certainly CANT be we are Texas so we will win because that has not happened. We can buy a winner without working for it? Certainly $ is a part of the equation, look at all the National Championship winners and you will see $

I see players that really dont want to play. Saw it on the Strong and Herman teams and now again. That comes with changing coaches so often, thats part of the pain. Is it that Herman was told he had to fire coaches? Because the view we are asking for something (winning) and not getting it and then griping about it is a part of team sports that every university has gone through. I just want to see good football. We saw some in the first two games but Rice is hard to count. The Arkansas game opened up gaping wounds. The Texas Tech game showed huge deficiencies that continued to get worse. Now we have a Kansas game were we actually hobbled into a comeback but our defense was just so bad it was impossible.

pgardn
11-14-2021, 07:57 PM
And now we got to deal with the image and likeness stuff as well... I guess we need advice. It sounds like our AD wants to win.

*Excessive frustration concluded*

Where the hell is Texas4ever... Tfloss. Might as well let the buttlicker run this show I guess.

Das Texan
11-14-2021, 08:19 PM
Its a problem first of boosters being so fucking impatient first and foremost to always demanding change and wins right away.

I get it and it would be nice, but you cant actually build a system the right way if you hide the fatal flaws that exist along the way.

You have a mindset where stars = success.

So you are recruiting players with massive amounts of talent but no real desire to do what it takes essentially. That shit has to stop. I'd rather Texas recruit a roster full of 3 star players that flat out want to be at Texas, want to win and dont see Texas as a means to the end solely.

This losing streak will be the best thing to happen to this program since Mack Brown's arrival. Rip the bandage off, take your medicine the next 2 years or so and then come back strong with players that are talented and with the drive to succeed.

Texas has the conference, the resources and the fan base to let it happen. Just have to trust in the coaching staff to actually do their job and not be impatient little fuckers after 6 months like some magical elixir is going to happen.

Both lines are utter trash and nothing Sark was doing would really change that. Nothing PK does will change that on the defensive side.

You cant all of a sudden make awful talent great. Texas has done a trash job bringing in defensive linemen for what? a decade? Not really much better on the O-line though some of that has been bad luck as well. A lot has been this ideal that talent positions is the only spot that actually matters stupidly.

The linebacker spot being pretty fucking god awful as well. Look at who is starting on this team right now for all the proof you need of the lack of talent and drive that exists.

pgardn
11-14-2021, 08:38 PM
^^^

So you are possibly suggesting that Charlie Strong and Tom Herman were not given long enough?

Das Texan
11-14-2021, 09:04 PM
^^^

So you are possibly suggesting that Charlie Strong and Tom Herman were not given long enough?


Yes on Charlie, but also not really sure he should have gotten the job in the first place.

Herman fucked himself though by being a fucking pompous ass and getting along with literally nobody.

Neo.
11-14-2021, 10:41 PM
Its a problem first of boosters being so fucking impatient first and foremost to always demanding change and wins right away.

I get it and it would be nice, but you cant actually build a system the right way if you hide the fatal flaws that exist along the way.

You have a mindset where stars = success.

So you are recruiting players with massive amounts of talent but no real desire to do what it takes essentially. That shit has to stop. I'd rather Texas recruit a roster full of 3 star players that flat out want to be at Texas, want to win and dont see Texas as a means to the end solely.

This losing streak will be the best thing to happen to this program since Mack Brown's arrival. Rip the bandage off, take your medicine the next 2 years or so and then come back strong with players that are talented and with the drive to succeed.

Texas has the conference, the resources and the fan base to let it happen. Just have to trust in the coaching staff to actually do their job and not be impatient little fuckers after 6 months like some magical elixir is going to happen.

Both lines are utter trash and nothing Sark was doing would really change that. Nothing PK does will change that on the defensive side.

You cant all of a sudden make awful talent great. Texas has done a trash job bringing in defensive linemen for what? a decade? Not really much better on the O-line though some of that has been bad luck as well. A lot has been this ideal that talent positions is the only spot that actually matters stupidly.

The linebacker spot being pretty fucking god awful as well. Look at who is starting on this team right now for all the proof you need of the lack of talent and drive that exists.

this

playblair
11-15-2021, 12:30 AM
1459742766838255618

Yeah he needs to do way better than 52 four star + players.
247 rates players on camp performance not on field production u ignoramus...........

Blake
11-15-2021, 12:54 AM
247 rates players on camp performance not on field production u ignoramus...........

I'm just re-tweeting. You'll need to point your little hissy fit in their direction.

FrostKing
11-15-2021, 02:28 AM
And I am getting tired of this change the culture stuff. I think posters are talking very different things possibly.
Exactly what needs to be changed within the culture? Each coach has a style and a way of doing things. Tom Herman kisses? Charlie Strong and his running a lifting weights with the players?

One poster hinted at the time it had to do with the BLM movementstuff, then later the eyes of Texas, etc...
Well Nick Saban fkn walked with his players in a BLM march and then they marched straight to the championship so no its NOT that cultural stuff.

We have posters who seem to know what goes on between the admin and the coaches and they tell the coaches how to address "culture" ?

What I see is what sark had hinted at. There are players who like a certain style of coach. It happened when Strong said he would change the "culture" . Herman the same. Im not getting it. We have a culture were players are told what? and then think what? We dont work hard enough? Just getting frustrated and screaming culture! is not making it clear enough.

Adding on to this giant new stadium...? all these fancy lockers? Every team in college sports is trying to address upgrades? It certainly CANT be we are Texas so we will win because that has not happened. We can buy a winner without working for it? Certainly $ is a part of the equation, look at all the National Championship winners and you will see $

I see players that really dont want to play. Saw it on the Strong and Herman teams and now again. That comes with changing coaches so often, thats part of the pain. Is it that Herman was told he had to fire coaches? Because the view we are asking for something (winning) and not getting it and then griping about it is a part of team sports that every university has gone through. I just want to see good football. We saw some in the first two games but Rice is hard to count. The Arkansas game opened up gaping wounds. The Texas Tech game showed huge deficiencies that continued to get worse. Now we have a Kansas game were we actually hobbled into a comeback but our defense was just so bad it was impossible.
The whole "change the culture" talk is a bit of ambigious grasping at straws. These were coaches with proven success in the past. Didn't Charlie Strong push drug testing? That is a significant step taken for culture change.

Bad attitude is contagious. You have a locker room of highly rated recruits growing increasingly disgruntled. That's one of the major difficulties - how do balance signing major recruits with the lower ranked recruits that are willing to sit & work hard thru a rebuild. Knowing it will drop your overall team recruiting rankings raising questions about the program in the long offseason.

Step1 is giving the coaches more commitment. And this is inherently the problem with Texas. The egos, expectations and overall lack of patience.

FSU is an interesting experiment. After a bad hire the program found itself at rock bottom and in many ways still is. But financially the Noles are forced to let Norvell rebuild it. Unlike Texas they can't just move onto the next Coach. Everyone at Tallahassee has accepted there is no other options in the next 3 years so just have to support the road back.

Kermit
11-15-2021, 09:54 AM
For everyone questioning the culture issue, here’s a quick place to start. CDC has killed it with every single hire he’s made. Why not let him hire the football coach? That’s a cultural issue within the department. Our chancellor should not be hiring the coach. The boosters should not have a say in the hiring on the coach. Let the fucking athletic director do his job. That’s how you get Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve Sarkisian. That’s also how you become a laughing stock with highly publicized failures like the Saban and Urban fiascos.

leemajors
11-15-2021, 10:31 AM
For everyone questioning the culture issue, here’s a quick place to start. CDC has killed it with every single hire he’s made. Why not let him hire the football coach? That’s a cultural issue within the department. Our chancellor should not be hiring the coach. The boosters should not have a say in the hiring on the coach. Let the fucking athletic director do his job. That’s how you get Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve Sarkisian. That’s also how you become a laughing stock with highly publicized failures like the Sabin and Urban fiascos.

:tu

Eastexhorn
11-15-2021, 12:36 PM
Lot of disagreement. Onething all will agree on defense is beyon bad! Players somewhat but mainly coaching.

Plenty of bodies at DL and LB if player not playing hard replace him. Sure could not be worse plus a message to team plat or ride the bench. I have seen better HS defenses as for as being in right position and tackling.

Kermit
11-15-2021, 12:49 PM
I hope everyone has a chance to watch this absolute disaster of a press conference. He has no idea what he’s doing. We are officially not a football school. Congrats to the idiots who run this program. What a fucking dumpster fire. At this point, I’m worried for his well being because this can’t be healthy for a recovering alcoholic.

Neo.
11-15-2021, 01:47 PM
im all for patience, but ive come to the point that i just dont think sark has what it takes. idk

Isitjustme?
11-15-2021, 03:41 PM
Thank God TFloss32 didn't live to see this

Eastexhorn
11-15-2021, 06:08 PM
TFloss is alive and doingwell on another board.

griffith
11-15-2021, 07:48 PM
I really think these boys got too use to not being held accountable for jack shit since media and boosters are quick to judge the coaching staffs, granted there was some miss fires on hirings but this shit is not one sided. Sark dealing with what every new coach has to deal with in any sport, having the existing players buy in and tbh these boys seem allergic to putting work in and shut down when opponents keep coming at them and shit doesnt go their way

DMX7
11-15-2021, 09:21 PM
For everyone questioning the culture issue, here’s a quick place to start. CDC has killed it with every single hire he’s made. Why not let him hire the football coach? That’s a cultural issue within the department. Our chancellor should not be hiring the coach. The boosters should not have a say in the hiring on the coach. Let the fucking athletic director do his job. That’s how you get Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve Sarkisian. That’s also how you become a laughing stock with highly publicized failures like the Saban and Urban fiascos.

Hard to argue with this. Texas won the Director’s Cup last year for the best athletic program in Division I, but because of what’s going on in football Texas looks ridiculous. Sad.

pgardn
11-15-2021, 09:27 PM
For everyone questioning the culture issue, here’s a quick place to start. CDC has killed it with every single hire he’s made. Why not let him hire the football coach? That’s a cultural issue within the department. Our chancellor should not be hiring the coach. The boosters should not have a say in the hiring on the coach. Let the fucking athletic director do his job. That’s how you get Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve Sarkisian. That’s also how you become a laughing stock with highly publicized failures like the Saban and Urban fiascos.

I am now resigned to this thinking.

The school and the football team have almost zero to do with each other. "We" have moved to the SEC and the image and likeness thing means this is now semi pro to pro football team we have. its not a college football team. Its a joke pretending like players are student athletes. Some might be, but they are completely separate entities in my mind now.

We can keep the Longhorn name and just drop the University of Texas BS because it is not.

CosmicCowboy
11-16-2021, 09:34 AM
I am now resigned to this thinking.

The school and the football team have almost zero to do with each other. "We" have moved to the SEC and the image and likeness thing means this is now semi pro to pro football team we have. its not a college football team. Its a joke pretending like players are student athletes. Some might be, but they are completely separate entities in my mind now.

We can keep the Longhorn name and just drop the University of Texas BS because it is not.

We should certainly be able to buy players as good or better than anyone else playing the image and likeness game.

rjv
11-16-2021, 10:00 AM
I hope everyone has a chance to watch this absolute disaster of a press conference. He has no idea what he’s doing. We are officially not a football school. Congrats to the idiots who run this program. What a fucking dumpster fire. At this point, I’m worried for his well being because this can’t be healthy for a recovering alcoholic.

i heard some of sark's comments yesterday. it was hard to get a feel for where he was going. he mentioned the 33 new players that will be arriving next year as if to say that this will not be the same team at all when that happens. but he had also said when he first arrived that there was enough talent on this team to have success now. but if he does mean that this team is about to go through a massive overhaul, does this mean that next season will be a process with some ups and downs. and, more importantly, will the texas alums and fan base be patient enough to allow this process to take place?

woofwoof
11-16-2021, 11:15 AM
i heard some of sark's comments yesterday. it was hard to get a feel for where he was going. he mentioned the 33 new players that will be arriving next year as if to say that this will not be the same team at all when that happens. but he had also said when he first arrived that there was enough talent on this team to have success now. but if he does mean that this team is about to go through a massive overhaul, does this mean that next season will be a process with some ups and downs. and, more importantly, will the texas alums and fan base be patient enough to allow this process to take place?

Raises a great question.

He mos def stated he had enough talent to win now. Coming off the win in the Alamo bowl, the oline looked plausible. At this point they suck. Every single last one of them. I believe if he would've kept Ash, the defense may have had a chance. Changing everything up and THEN realizing you have a soft-minded team, that is simply OK with losing, it bodes for an adjustment.

I believe he is seeing that it will take time to get his players in, understanding schemes on both ends, and to change the mentality that losing is ok.

My problem is the defense. Bend then break sh** aint working and if he can't understand stopping the run is how you win games and start adjusting to that, he will not be here long. Truthfully, it is frustrating to see how long it takes for somebody getting paid a million dollars a year to teach defense to adjust.

Kermit
11-16-2021, 11:30 AM
i heard some of sark's comments yesterday. it was hard to get a feel for where he was going. he mentioned the 33 new players that will be arriving next year as if to say that this will not be the same team at all when that happens. but he had also said when he first arrived that there was enough talent on this team to have success now. but if he does mean that this team is about to go through a massive overhaul, does this mean that next season will be a process with some ups and downs. and, more importantly, will the texas alums and fan base be patient enough to allow this process to take place?

Patience? This process has been going on for 11 years.

rjv
11-16-2021, 11:44 AM
Patience? This process has been going on for 11 years.

i meant patience with sark's "plan". if he has another bad season next year, does texas cut him loose after just two seasons?

Isitjustme?
11-16-2021, 12:04 PM
TFloss is alive and doingwell on another board.

Lol was kidding obv

pgardn
11-16-2021, 01:37 PM
We should certainly be able to buy players as good or better than anyone else playing the image and likeness game.

The SEC has a huge head start.

Nick Saban told the Texas Football HS Coaches meeting at the beginning of the year that their QB, who had never started, was makin a least 7 figures. They got this tied directly to boosters. Anyways, its just not a school fielding a team anymore. It was always headed this way, but the quantum leap has occurred.

Now then think about WHY Saban told HS Football coaches this. Coming to a HS star near you. These things have a way of filtering down. We should start seeing more and more football academies. Finance classes offered on how to handle and advertise, market advice... all for the parents and kids on image and likeness.

Neat stuff. Just like soccer in Europe. Get associated with an academy at 7 years old, tuition free. Then switch academies as necessary.

pgardn
11-16-2021, 01:40 PM
i meant patience with sark's "plan". if he has another bad season next year, does texas cut him loose after just two seasons?

Thats easy to say when you are not responsible for picking and firing coaches.
Part of it is clearly timing. Why cant UT find the next Ryan Day like Ohio State after they basically fired Urban Meyer? Because its damn difficult.

rjv
11-16-2021, 02:53 PM
Thats easy to say when you are not responsible for picking and firing coaches.
Part of it is clearly timing. Why cant UT find the next Ryan Day like Ohio State after they basically fired Urban Meyer? Because its damn difficult.

i'm not judging texas if that is what they decide to do. i'm just looking to look at it from different angles. i mean there are two ways to look at it: one is that the overhaul needed to change the culture and the schemes within the football program, as well as to get the type of players that maximize that system, will take a couple of years to see results. the other is that this still doesn't excuse the kind of free fall that the team has seen this year. in other words, is there something else going on? (i.e. have the players quite on sark already?) if it is the latter, then i can see a firing after another bad season as justified. but, if there is progress next year, then i would think cooler heads would prevail.

Kermit
11-16-2021, 03:23 PM
i'm not judging texas if that is what they decide to do. i'm just looking to look at it from different angles. i mean there are two ways to look at it: one is that the overhaul needed to change the culture and the schemes within the football program, as well as to get the type of players that maximize that system will take a couple of years to see results. the other is that this still doesn't excuse the kind of free fall that the team has seen this year. in other words, is there something else going on? (i.e. have the players quite on sark already?) if it is the latter, then i can see the a firing after another bad season as justified. but, if there is progress next year, then i would think cooler heads would prevail.

Fuck dude. Who knows? The problems with the program are endemic. Until they figure out the root cause, ain’t no amount of coaching is going to fix the issues. People want to throw it on the coaching, but this slide has been progressively worse every year.

Eastexhorn
11-17-2021, 09:38 AM
No doubt Tom and his staff would havs had a better record. However I am glad he is gone.

Billybass
11-17-2021, 09:47 AM
Lots of chatter about culture change etc… when you are losing you need excuses. Sark has to accept blame that he and his staff are getting out coached. Can’t blame everything on “culture”.

this is as bad as I have ever seen them play. Really sad.

Kermit
11-17-2021, 12:03 PM
Lots of chatter about culture change etc… when you are losing you need excuses. Sark has to accept blame that he and his staff are getting out coached. Can’t blame everything on “culture”.

this is as bad as I have ever seen them play. Really sad.

Bro, players are quitting on the field. How the fuck are you supposed to coach around that?

pgardn
11-17-2021, 01:10 PM
Bro, players are quitting on the field. How the fuck are you supposed to coach around that?

Absolutely they are.
Its a start over.
Supposedly the real quitters and disrupters are Herman's men. When X. Worthy and Bijan are getting absolutely crushed and teammates are looking on and clearly do NOT want to give effort (maybe out of nothing but desire to help the man next to you on your own team) its really bad.

Imo we really have to find kids who actually Love the actual game itself. Not the glory of playing at a big school in front of big crowds. This is not about allegiance to a school anymore for me. Its, you love the game? Come here and help us get better. We need you because you love the game without needing adulation. I have no idea how we will find kids that can play and actually love the game and team. Because thats what it is. Its not UT #1 crap. This is allegiance to football and you happen to come to UT.
And I never want to hear a coach talking about building character in young men. This is now a profession. The character should already be there to play THE GAME. Its up to them in HS. Also just forget about classes that are for people who really want to learn about a variety of subjects and find their way. The already know their way. Its football. And classes should have everything to do with football. No SAT. A football test specific for a group of positions. Something like they do in the pros.

Lets just separate the two and be done with it. Its just a big fake thing. Allegiance to a school is a joke. Allegiance to the art of a sport that entertains people. Get rid of the façade. Now fans can be like the NBA and follow a certain kid through his various travels through "schools"

leemajors
11-17-2021, 01:20 PM
Absolutely they are.
Its a start over.
Supposedly the real quitters and disrupters are Herman's men. When X. Worthy and Bijan are getting absolutely crushed and teammates are looking on and clearly do NOT want to give effort (maybe out of nothing but desire to help the man next to you on your own team) its really bad.

Imo we really have to find kids who actually Love the actual game itself. Not the glory of playing at a big school in front of big crowds. This is not about allegiance to a school anymore for me. Its, you love the game? Come here and help us get better. We need you because you love the game without needing adulation. I have no idea how we will find kids that can play and actually love the game and team. Because thats what it is. Its not UT #1 crap. This is allegiance to football and you happen to come to UT.
And I never want to hear a coach talking about building character in young men. This is now a profession. The character should already be there to play THE GAME. Its up to them in HS. Also just forget about classes that are for people who really want to learn about a variety of subjects and find their way. The already know their way. Its football. And classes should have everything to do with football. No SAT. A football test specific for a group of positions. Something like they do in the pros.

Lets just separate the two and be done with it. Its just a big fake thing. Allegiance to a school is a joke. Allegiance to the art of a sport that entertains people. Get rid of the façade. Now fans can be like the NBA and follow a certain kid through his various travels through "schools"

When did coaching become a profession?

pgardn
11-17-2021, 01:27 PM
When did coaching become a profession?

My bad...

"And I never want to hear a coach talking about building character in young men. This is now a profession."

The "this" I was referring to is HS players choosing a college and joining a team are now professionals. They dont need to be taught something about how this sport can "make you a man" bs. I was in the college of Natural Sciences, they did not try to teach me about adulthood and manhood. Football players are in the college of football. Same for them. And they are a step ahead, they are getting paid.

Das Texan
11-17-2021, 08:12 PM
The whole they are just kids going to school went completely out the window when the opening of the NIL.

Players want to get paid for their NIL, they need to be treated like professionals which is essentially what they are. You cant have it both ways. Oh but they are just kids. Then dont play for a Power 5 conference school hoping for a payday and not excepting giant pressure on you to perform.

So many of these fucking players have just flat out QUIT out there. I wish Sark could just release them all from their scholarships and be done with this mess. Find walk ons to play the rest of the season, fuck it.

Eastexhorn
11-18-2021, 08:21 AM
My question is if players are quiting during the game, then why are they still starting. Lose with someone who wantsto play.

Billybass
11-18-2021, 10:34 AM
I agree. I don’t think they are quitting so much, as they have lost confidence. They don’t believe in the system. I’m not so sure I believe in the system either.
i wonder how Card could have beat out Casey to start the season. Casey is clearly the better qb now.
Sark ain’t going nowhere for a year or two, but he is partly responsible for this mess too.

Eastexhorn
11-18-2021, 04:53 PM
Offense is ok I have zero confidence in PK defense. Cannot stop the run in so many games. Still same old defense no adjustments, no change in lineup except for injuries.

Billybass
11-18-2021, 06:46 PM
Offense didn’t look too good against Iowa state. And we got way behind to Kansas behind multiple offensive turnovers
also, first 4 games of this losing streak offense has been terrible in second half. Flat ass terrible

Eastexhorn
11-19-2021, 08:45 AM
Agree offense has sputtered at times. A lot of it is Casey's thumb. Several games they scored enough points to win,Defense let them down.

defense it same sameo only excuse is Jones injury and that is a poor one. beat W Virg.

Neo.
11-19-2021, 09:28 AM
casey repeatedly throwing the ball directly to defenders at bad times doesn't help, but sure blame his thumb, oline, defense and coaches for everything, it can't possibly have anything to do with his poor reads :lol

woofwoof
11-19-2021, 10:32 AM
The last interception, I believe sark stated Worthy was supposed to cross the face of the defender. Casey has been bad, serviceable and good to great, in certain halves. Card just isn't ready

pgardn
11-19-2021, 11:55 AM
casey repeatedly throwing the ball directly to defenders at bad times doesn't help, but sure blame his thumb, oline, defense and coaches for everything, it can't possibly have anything to do with his poor reads :lol

This started to occur more often in later games. We should expect a certain amount of this from a 1st year starter. Its just exacerbated when other teams find out they can load the line and kill Bijan and also play kill the QB. Hell yes you are not going to be as good as teams figure out where your team is headed and that they are very limited.

You actually think we could play OU the same way we played them the first time?
They would absolutely destroy us.

The point is the team has gotten very bad instead of improving. Casey is a part of that, and it seems to me after the number of hits and scrambles he has taken it was going to end up here for a 1st year starter. In the OK St. game he got absolutely crushed and tried to come back on. bad move. This is NOT Sam Ehilinger with an arm still intact. I wonder if the Manning's want their son to be a starter with this kind of OL and one receiver with zero running game.... sure... persish the thought.

pgardn
11-19-2021, 12:06 PM
The last interception, I believe sark stated Worthy was supposed to cross the face of the defender. Casey has been bad, serviceable and good to great, in certain halves. Card just isn't ready

Worthy is a true freshman, hobbled, and relied upon to make all the big plays now.
I give him a pass. Casey to Worthy is the default "help, we cant make plays on offense"
1st year starters without a good OL... thats just a disaster that was going to happen.

And also put me on the side of some players absolutely giving up. Thats not helpful either. New coach, things have fallen apart. Lets blaming each other begin. Some guys dont want to play football for this team right now. Its understandable. I think they know it but you dont want to tell your parents, and coaches, that this just is not fun. You make a cameo, and its easy to see imo. There are some obvious players on D. Loss of confidence adds to the appearance of just really not wanting to the game imo. You can also just get frustrated on the field and get a 15 yarder and have a sit; make it easier. Small things become unimportant when you feel the entire ship is sinking.

Eastexhorn
11-19-2021, 06:54 PM
Caseydoes have a hurt thumb
offense line is bad.
Defense is terrible.
Defense coaching leaves a lot to be desired
All this is true and cannot be denied.

leemajors
11-20-2021, 12:52 PM
Not sure why I am punishing myself watching this.

tlongII
11-20-2021, 01:23 PM
Why does Texas suck? I don’t get it.

Neo.
11-20-2021, 01:47 PM
casey is so bad

yet some people think he should be absolved of all blame :lmao

Neo.
11-20-2021, 01:48 PM
Why does Texas suck? I don’t get it.

in a nutshell, once things got hard and they lost a couple games, hermans recruits completely gave up on sark

Dennis the Menace
11-20-2021, 01:52 PM
in a nutshell, once things got hard and they lost a couple games, hermans recruits completely gave up on sark

griffith
11-20-2021, 03:16 PM
i love how the refs just watched Card get thrown excessively down after the pass and didn't throw a flag

Blake
11-20-2021, 04:06 PM
1441848122385190912

:lol I had to dig for this gem.

Kermit
11-20-2021, 04:26 PM
:lol I had to dig for this gem.

That’s nice.

Blake
11-20-2021, 05:21 PM
I'm still laughing at "Ackers" too

playblair
11-20-2021, 09:13 PM
where is Vito Corleone

GAustex
11-20-2021, 10:16 PM
On one play three dudes got hurt
This team
This season
A nightmare

Kermit
11-21-2021, 12:56 PM
where is Vito Corleone

Probably with a paper bag on his head like the rest of us.

pgardn
11-21-2021, 06:30 PM
Probably with a paper bag on his head like the rest of us.

We show up each week to get pounded not only by our team, but by other fans.
So I give us an SM for self mutilation. Something is very wrong with me for watching this.

But hey, we sorta had a running game against a WV team in free fall like we are.
And I got to watch our defensive linemen roll around on the ground again like giant fat people with nothing to lean on to hold them upright.

"Wow we got 2 or so sacks on them. Against a QB who waited 6 1/2 hours for the pocket to collapse on him, all initiated by a group of paraplegic hippos."
WV is pretty damn bad themselves.

DMX7
11-21-2021, 08:57 PM
This is such a stupid stat. it means almost nothing.

Neo.
11-22-2021, 07:23 PM
interesting interview comments from sark today

he made it pretty clear hes not happy with hermans recruits and is ready to fill it with his own guys

Blake
11-22-2021, 07:37 PM
interesting interview comments from sark today

he made it pretty clear hes not happy with hermans recruits and is ready to fill it with his own guys

":cry it's not my fault we have a losing record :cry"

Neo.
11-22-2021, 07:41 PM
":cry it's not my fault we have a losing record :cry"

:lol

Blake
11-22-2021, 09:52 PM
Lol I give Sark three more years max.

rogcl1
11-22-2021, 10:36 PM
interesting interview comments from sark today

he made it pretty clear hes not happy with Hermans recruits and is ready to fill it with his own guys

If Herman's recruits were any good then maybe he would still be the coach.

Kermit
11-23-2021, 12:42 AM
Lol I give Sark three more years max.

But he has two votes of confidence!

DMX7
11-23-2021, 04:23 PM
":cry it's not my fault we have a losing record :cry"

Exactly right, it's just an excuse from Sark. He knew when he took this job he was expected to win with these recruits in year 1 otherwise Tom would still have a job. I'm not giving up 100% on Sark yet but obviously this is a bad start.

playblair
11-24-2021, 02:14 AM
Exactly right, it's just an excuse from Sark. He knew when he took this job he was expected to win with these recruits in year 1 otherwise Tom would still have a job. I'm not giving up 100% on Sark yet but obviously this is a bad start.
somone leaked a milwee the qb coach text during fall camp that said alabamas 3rd string would beat texas starters..........sark & his stiff knew this season was going to be a wash because the players were not up to par..........

Eastexhorn
11-24-2021, 09:02 AM
interesting interview comments from sark today

he made it pretty clear hes not happy with hermans recruits and is ready to fill it with his own guys

These are the same players Sark said he had enough talent to win with. No Texas coach has liked players he inheireted except Ricky.

Neo.
11-24-2021, 02:02 PM
somone leaked a milwee the qb coach text during fall camp that said alabamas 3rd string would beat texas starters..........sark & his stiff knew this season was going to be a wash because the players were not up to par..........

as much as people want to blame the trenches, its very arguable the QB room is the worst aspect of the team tbqh

DMX7
11-24-2021, 11:12 PM
as much as people want to blame the trenches, its very arguable the QB room is the worst aspect of the team tbqh

Thompson was playing fine and almost making up for how bad the offensive line is until he got his hand injured in the OU game.

Neo.
11-25-2021, 12:58 AM
Thompson was playing fine and almost making up for how bad the offensive line is until he got his hand injured in the OU game.

his struggles began in the second half against TCU, before the hand injury

teams figured him out. take away his first read, add pressure and hit him a few times, then suddenly he gets horrible tunnel vision and is mentally done from there. he is completely incapable of making counter adjustments to defenses

Biggems
11-25-2021, 01:54 AM
I'm not hiding. Unfortunately, I have to deal with a few OU fans daily.

This has been a crappy sports season so far. The Spurs suck. Then Penguins are struggling. The Longhorns suck. Judson had its first losing season since 1976. The Astros were a bright spot, but lost in the WS. The Cowboys still have a shot at greatness, as they are near the top of the league record-wise. At least several of my fellow Judson alums are having a great experience at UTSA, especially Sincere McCormick.

Biggems
11-25-2021, 01:54 AM
his struggles began in the second half against TCU, before the hand injury

teams figured him out. take away his first read, add pressure and hit him a few times, then suddenly he gets horrible tunnel vision and is mentally done from there. he is completely incapable of making counter adjustments to defenses

aside from a handful of players this team is S-A-W-F-T Saaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwffffffffffttttttttt

Biggems
11-25-2021, 02:02 AM
Most football teams, if you punch them in the mouth, they punch back.

This team, if you punch them in the mouth, they go walk into a closet, close the door, sit on the floor and cry incessantly. What a bunch of sissified bleeding vaginas.

Go out and find a bunch of starving, hard working, never quit 2 and 3 star players and let them challenge the 4 and 5 star prima donnas. I know we want elite athletes, but right now, I want football players. I want more guys with the heart, passion, and fight of Schooler. Yes, he gets beat, but dammit, he gives it max effort every single play. Give me 11 guys on the field with his level of heart and desire and our D, while not the most talented, will be so much better and wreak far more havoc than it does right now.

leemajors
11-25-2021, 01:46 PM
Most football teams, if you punch them in the mouth, they punch back.

This team, if you punch them in the mouth, they go walk into a closet, close the door, sit on the floor and cry incessantly. What a bunch of sissified bleeding vaginas.

Go out and find a bunch of starving, hard working, never quit 2 and 3 star players and let them challenge the 4 and 5 star prima donnas. I know we want elite athletes, but right now, I want football players. I want more guys with the heart, passion, and fight of Schooler. Yes, he gets beat, but dammit, he gives it max effort every single play. Give me 11 guys on the field with his level of heart and desire and our D, while not the most talented, will be so much better and wreak far more havoc than it does right now.

Schooler and Brockermeyer are terrible

DMX7
11-25-2021, 01:47 PM
his struggles began in the second half against TCU, before the hand injury

teams figured him out. take away his first read, add pressure and hit him a few times, then suddenly he gets horrible tunnel vision and is mentally done from there. he is completely incapable of making counter adjustments to defenses

He passed for 388 Yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs in the OU game with a BAD offensive line.

Neo.
11-25-2021, 03:10 PM
He passed for 388 Yards with 5 TDs and 0 INTs in the OU game with a BAD offensive line.

and he was completely non-existent from when he threw the TD to Wiley halfway through the 2nd until that last drive to tie the game. dude was absolutely terrible after OU made adjustments, and repeatedly missed wide open receivers.

DMX7
11-25-2021, 06:21 PM
and he was completely non-existent from when he threw the TD to Wiley halfway through the 2nd until that last drive to tie the game. dude was absolutely terrible after OU made adjustments, and repeatedly missed wide open receivers.

So he needed to throw 9 TDs and 0 INts? :lol

Neo.
11-25-2021, 08:22 PM
So he needed to throw 9 TDs and 0 INts? :lol

needed? obviously not based on the score :lmao

but something other than a plethora of 3 and outs and blown opportunities would be nice. maybe making the defense pay for loading the box for bijan

do you believe he had a good second half?

Eastexhorn
11-25-2021, 09:00 PM
Schooler and Brockermeyer are terrible

They gave 100% in games I watched. If some of the so called stars had gave as much effort Texas would have a better record.

Casey with a good OL would be good enough to win conference title.Card would look b etter also given time to pass.
Only thing terrible about Horns is the defense.

Neo.
11-25-2021, 09:24 PM
Casey with a good OL, the best RB in the nation and one of the best young WRs in the nation would be good enough to win conference title.

fixed

Kermit
11-25-2021, 11:16 PM
This board is so sad, recruiting news doesn’t get posted anymore.

Eastexhorn
11-26-2021, 10:35 AM
fixed
t

Tell me something I do not know.

Kermit
11-26-2021, 12:28 PM
I’ll be so glad when Thompson and Card are no longer the quarterback options.

Neo.
11-26-2021, 12:28 PM
t

Tell me something I do not know.

obviously you dont know that the teams problems go far beyond the defense, when you say the only thing terrible is the defense, especially when there were times the defense would get stop after stop despite the defense going 3-and-out repeatedly and eventually the defense getting completely gassed and frustrated with the offenses ineptitude

EDIT: and as i was making this reply, casey has an open brewer but instead decides to throw into triple coverage to worthy. pretty much the norm as ive been saying. opposing defense makes adjustments, casey does not. he sucks and has been consistently bailed out by bijan and worthy

GAustex
11-26-2021, 12:31 PM
KState like a hot knife through warm butter

Neo.
11-26-2021, 12:53 PM
fix the o-line a bit and this trio of RBs (bijan roschon keilan) can make the longhorns so dangerous next year, one good bright spot to look forward to at least

Neo.
11-26-2021, 01:04 PM
its 3rd and 1, and the corners are playing 10+ yards off a slow possession receiver

i just dont get it

Kermit
11-26-2021, 01:36 PM
its 3rd and 1, and the corners are playing 10+ yards off a slow possession receiver

i just dont get it

Pete Kwiatkowski has got to be fired after this game. I know Sark is going to get at least two more years, but whatever is going on with the defense is laughable.

leemajors
11-26-2021, 01:46 PM
They gave 100% in games I watched. If some of the so called stars had gave as much effort Texas would have a better record.

Casey with a good OL would be good enough to win conference title.Card would look b etter also given time to pass.
Only thing terrible about Horns is the defense.

I agree

Eastexhorn
11-26-2021, 01:50 PM
its 3rd and 1, and the corners are playing 10+ yards off a slow possession receiver

i just dont get it
100% true.

Neo.
11-26-2021, 02:52 PM
aside from the long run by Howard, the defense has been pretty solid today

Billybass
11-26-2021, 02:54 PM
Defense has played good enough to win today. They are not as bad as the Oline.

Eastexhorn
11-26-2021, 03:17 PM
True then the defense has more depth than OL.

Billybass
11-26-2021, 03:41 PM
True then the defense has more depth than OL.
no argument there. Their depth is not good. They played guys this year that should not have been playing. They were too young. Part of that is on Sark. He should have known that before the season started. He had time to get some portal guys in here. Anyway….this nightmare of a season is over. Finally.
Sark HAS to get a better line in place next year. That will be something to keep a close eye on

DMX7
11-26-2021, 03:44 PM
4 Star WR - Armani Winfield has decommitted

He won't be the last but it's not a big blow if you ask me.

DMX7
11-26-2021, 03:45 PM
I’ll be so glad when Thompson and Card are no longer the quarterback options.

Won't matter if Tom Brady is the QB if the O-Line is this bad

Blake
11-26-2021, 03:58 PM
Roschon needs to transfer. Too good to waste a senior season on a losing team behind Bijan

Kermit
11-26-2021, 04:09 PM
Won't matter if Tom Brady is the QB if the O-Line is this bad

The o-line had nothing to do with his dumbass interception. His noodle arm however…

DMX7
11-26-2021, 04:22 PM
The o-line had nothing to do with his dumbass interception. His noodle arm however…

He's playing injured. The only reason he is playing is because Card has no game whatsoever.

1464293304770703367

woofwoof
11-26-2021, 04:53 PM
Still arguing about Card and Thompson? Come on.

Season is a wash. Card was not going to be good this year. He needs a line, which we do not have. Thompson gave us the best chance to win this year. We would've won a few more games if we had a DEFENSE. Each game we were in, a few plays caused us to lose.

Next year, it won't matter we'll have some other new guy throwing the ball. But we can't continue this stupid debate every week, Card is/was not better.

Kermit
11-26-2021, 05:17 PM
He's playing injured. The only reason he is playing is because Card has no game whatsoever.

1464293304770703367

Card is fucking injured too haus. If Casey is too injured to throw a long ball, maybe don’t throw it. Dudes a mental midget. And absolutely bo one is arguing that Card is better. Glad they won, but if K State has their starting QB, this is mercifully over in the first half. Can’t wait to see which shit bowl we get invited to because there’s too many bowls and not enough quality teams.

Neo.
11-26-2021, 06:06 PM
I don't get why it's so hard for people to admit Casey was lousy this year. I hope he can improve and be solid next year along with a better line, but he was not a good QB this season, plain and simple.

Neo.
11-26-2021, 06:08 PM
Still arguing about Card and Thompson? Come on.

Season is a wash. Card was not going to be good this year. He needs a line, which we do not have. Thompson gave us the best chance to win this year. We would've won a few more games if we had a DEFENSE. Each game we were in, a few plays caused us to lose.

Next year, it won't matter we'll have some other new guy throwing the ball. But we can't continue this stupid debate every week, Card is/was not better.

who here said card was better?

looks like the only one arguing about card and thompson is you.

GAustex
11-26-2021, 06:26 PM
It was good to see something good happen to this team.

Eastexhorn
11-26-2021, 07:07 PM
I don't get why it's so hard for people to admit Casey was lousy this year. I hope he can improve and be solid next year along with a better line, but he was not a good QB this season, plain and simple.

Malnly because he is not.

Neo.
11-26-2021, 07:38 PM
Malnly because he is not.

lol delusional

Eastexhorn
11-26-2021, 07:41 PM
lol delusional

One fans opinion!