2022 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[Eastexhorn]

Six spots left. 2 OL, 2 DB, 1WR and ?.

Only need about three more ro leave for 85 limit. Normal attrition will take are of this.

[chirohorn]

Need a missile seekin’, QB chasin’ DE.

[texas4ever]

https://twitter.com/TexasFootball/status/1471852400365514755?s=20

[texas4ever]

https://twitter.com/texcrystal_ball/status/1471687202358939653?s=20

[Neo.]

Will not be the LSU guy, but yeah you're on the right track.

ive heard of things about quentin johnston from tcu

but is wease a realistic target as well?

[texas4ever]

https://twitter.com/MikeRoach247/status/1471868623329406981?s=20

[rjv]

apparently, denver harris will be announcing after the Galena North Shore/Duncanville title game tomorrow.

[Neo.]

apparently, denver harris will be announcing after the Galena North Shore/Duncanville title game tomorrow.

to a&m obviously

much thanks to tom herman for recruiting a bunch of soft entitled losers who give up the moment things get hard and costing the team at least 3 games

[Neo.]

https://twitter.com/HornSports/status/1471869350760046596?s=20

pathetic

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/HgVQFsX/Screenshot-20211217-111402-Chrome.jpg

And it's officially a race issue

[Neo.]

https://i.ibb.co/HgVQFsX/Screenshot-20211217-111402-Chrome.jpg

And it's officially a race issue

what is he referring to? besides the big recruiting flip

[FrostKing]

what is he referring to? besides the big recruiting flip
I think America and FSU fans must celebrate because they are a black school

[playblair]

Aggies always have something really big and awesome around the corner next year that's gonna boost them into the stratosphere :lol
Remember the #WRTS hashtag when they joined the SEC although they had proved absolutely nothing except beating alabama
youre living in 2005.........aggy literately is about to have the highest ranked class ever in recruiting..........8 5* bruh not even juggernaut alabama has done that........aggy is paying to win now & no one is going to stop them certainly not the ncaa........

[Neo.]

I think America and FSU fans must celebrate because they are a black school

so nothing has happened?

[bluetrumpet]

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[pgardn]

I think America and FSU fans must celebrate because they are a black school

So if he flipped to the Air Force Academy, there would be zero celebration?

[pgardn]

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This is NOT good.
If Card goes this is a mess and we better have experience lined up via a QB transfer our way.

Interesting note. so far when the portal reached 1000 kids, 300 had been picked up. Possibly Risky business if you dont assess yourself properly.
No problem quitting a job if you have another already job lined up that is the preferred destination.

[woofwoof]

Malik Murphy highlights...
http://www.hudl.com/v/2GcDWH

[benefactor]

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Not surprising tbh. They'll find another backup

[Neo.]

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good he sucks

[Neo.]

law went to bama

man this WR coach is a horrible recruiter

[texas4ever]

law went to bama

man this WR coach is a horrible recruiter

I know Sark likes to stay loyal to his coaches, but Coleman needs to go. Hopefully, he can find a soft landing spot with Drayton.

[texas4ever]

Hariss should announce to Aggy tomorrow. I hope no one hangs around waiting on that announcement. He took the bags also. I bet that's a $10 million class Aggy just signed.

[bluetrumpet]

Someone mentioned Aggies getting the Ol Miss treatment for all the money they’re dropping for players. what does that mean?


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was really hoping he would transfer over to us

[DMX7]

This is NOT good.
If Card goes this is a mess and we better have experience lined up via a QB transfer our way.


This is not good in part because Card is not good.

[pgardn]

This is not good in part because Card is not good.

Let me try again for more than just one poster.

Thompson going is bad news, then IF Card goes as well...
We throw Ewers and Murphy to the wolves?

I totally agree Card sucks right now. But this is a setup for a huge fail with our WR and our Oline quite possibly.
We have zero experience at QB then we damn well better have a portal guy ready.
This Ewers instant success stuff is less likely to happen with the group on offense that awaits him. Better than last year but did we learn anything?

And if Bijan gets wacked again and Worthy limps through games we repeat last years failures with a better QB?
Its playing with fire throwing these new guys in. A game to let Ewers understand from the sidelines and lead him slowly with the reins.

Jes.. fkn Christ lets not screw this up again. Alabama 2nd game... Holy god we cant let people get crushed.

somebody tell me the good news about how good our Oline is now currently?
this is gonna take time. People dont need to die on the field to wait for experience to develop.

I really would like to know what people see on our oline next year. Who are you excited about playing immediately. We got guys coming back so give me the view.

[pgardn]

ATM just blew the top off of recruiting as we know it.
After really horrid loss to LSU.

Wanna know a QB who is not very good and got absolutely horrid play calling to go along with it?
Calzada.

ATM just killed it. NIL, look at it now. And they lost what looked to be a good defensive coordinator. I wonder what Alabama, Ohio St., Michigan, Clemson and the likes think of the two biggest schools in Texas recruiting now...

[pgardn]

I really would have like to have heard Thompson say he will be all healed up, understands his mistakes much better, and is more than ready to compete and become the Starter. Then pat Card on the back as he leaves. then a portal guy with experience as well.

I hope I am dead wrong and Ewers wins the job immediately, starts, and we actually give Alabama a good game if not actually beat them. Then win the big 12.

This happens when one is heavily on huge happy colored mushrooms.

[Thanos]

lol how stupid do you have to be to land the only perfect score 5-star QB recruit since Vince Young, see your crappy QB for your 5-7 squad leave, and somehow think the sky is falling and get in a panic over your even crappier backup potentially leaving? :lol

“Hey we just signed Peyton Manning, but oh no we might suck if Tim Tebow goes to the Jets! And god forbid we lose Brock Osweiler too”

[pgardn]

lol how stupid do you have to be to land the only perfect score 5-star QB recruit since Vince Young, see your crappy QB for your 5-7 squad leave, and somehow think the sky is falling and get in a panic over your even crappier backup potentially leaving? :lol

“Hey we just signed Peyton Manning, but oh no we might suck if Tim Tebow goes to the Jets! And god forbid we lose Brock Osweiler too”

Hey Peyton, take a snap behind this swiss cheese. And peyton since you were so perfect, why did you play two fkin downs for Ohio St and then leave?
Holy shit... Yeah.... stupid. I get that.

Can we get time to be Peyton I wonder.

[Thanos]

Hey Peyton, take a snap behind this swiss cheese. And peyton since you were so perfect, why did you play two fkin downs for Ohio St and then leave?
Holy shit... Yeah.... stupid. I get that.
Glad you understand that you’re stupid :tu

[pgardn]

Glad you understand that Im stupid :tu

And Vince Young did NOT start his freshman season.
He did not play until the Oklahoma game and switched back and forth with Mock. One passed, one ran. Guess who ran?
Bama boy,
Go through our oline last season and tell me who you liked and why? And who you would not start next season.

[Neo.]

lol how stupid do you have to be to land the only perfect score 5-star QB recruit since Vince Young, see your crappy QB for your 5-7 squad leave, and somehow think the sky is falling and get in a panic over your even crappier backup potentially leaving? :lol

“Hey we just signed Peyton Manning, but oh no we might suck if Tim Tebow goes to the Jets! And god forbid we lose Brock Osweiler too”


Glad you understand that you’re stupid :tu

:lmao

[pgardn]

:lmao

insight... nil.

Here is some help. Bijan will go off and continue to do so because our O line will be more experienced and this in turn will aid Ewers in becoming Peyton Manning.

Help some?

[Kermit]

Glad you understand that you’re stupid :tu

He’s been on a roll lately.

[pgardn]

He’s been on a roll lately.

ouch...
Another great take.
Keep rolling.

[bluetrumpet]

Any elite prospects still uncommitted/not signed?1472089879425085444. Denver Harris???

[griffith]

I'm surprised you guys still respond to him, put him on ignore for a while now, he went off deep end like blair

[Ballin42]

Any elite prospects still uncommitted/not signed?1472089879425085444. Denver Harris???

right timing, but I think it’s watts. We will see tmrw afternoon

[Ballin42]

Denver Harris was supposed to sign on Friday and announce after the game today. But, most felt he was leaning aggy. I’ve heard watts. You’ve also got Greene about to announce and Campbell.

https://twitter.com/chrisgilbert_1/status/1472195093968924675?s=21

[Eastexhorn]

Ewers still has to prove himself remember state championship game.

Only improve ment I see in OL is has the returning players became better, freshmen are not normaly much help.

Koolade is flowing but next year might be similar to this one.

[texas4ever]

Sarks bat signal was probably for Campbell.

[texas4ever]

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[pgardn]

Ewers still has to prove himself remember state championship game.

Only improve ment I see in OL is has the returning players became better, freshmen are not normaly much help.

Koolade is flowing but next year might be similar to this one.

I honestly hope Ewers comes in and just lights it up.
But there is more than a QB to fix imo.
And point well taken. If our returning OLineman make big improvements then it would be fantastic because with this tremendous recruiting class, especially on the offensive line, we gave ourselves something to build upon. Very good things could happen if we do this properly.

Our defense also appears to have some needs. Another Lb, safety and hope the D line gets better. Another Edge guy, Perkins would be nice.

We just did not even compete well at the end of last year. We cant have that steep drop again. A decent start (with some freshman actually starting) and getting much better as the season goes on is what I hope will happen. Imo we just dont close our eyes to what happened last year.

[Neo.]

i still just can't believe the chode bloading over casey leaving roflrofl

[Eastexhorn]

To me no room on defense except DBS and maybe 1 LB2 more OL and 1 WR on offense 6 spots left

DL and LB rooms are as crowded as a can of sardines. Too much kooladefrom great crecruiting class for comon sense .

[texas4ever]

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[pgardn]

To me no room on defense except DBS and maybe 1 LB2 more OL and 1 WR on offense 6 spots left

DL and LB rooms are as crowded as a can of sardines. Too much kooladefrom great crecruiting class for comon sense .

Lack of an edge rusher last year was so glaring imo.

And people thinking the ideal situation is to have two true freshman as starters??? I dont get it with last years OL. Death wish.
Hope we are going portal as people appear not to understand how much experience means when you jump a level for the most important position on the field.

But, as you stated, a much improved OL from last year's group maybe mixed with a monster in Banks could do the trick for an inexperienced QB. And both freshmen will get spring practice and a summer, so that is really important. And maybe just pounding it with a healthy Bijan for the majority of the game sets up big TDs from the pass like last year.

WR star like Worthy would be huge as well.

[texas4ever]

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Multiple sites are saying Choice is a done deal. Awesome hire!

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[benefactor]

lol how stupid do you have to be to land the only perfect score 5-star QB recruit since Vince Young, see your crappy QB for your 5-7 squad leave, and somehow think the sky is falling and get in a panic over your even crappier backup potentially leaving? :lol

“Hey we just signed Peyton Manning, but oh no we might suck if Tim Tebow goes to the Jets! And god forbid we lose Brock Osweiler too”


Glad you understand that you’re stupid :tu


:lmao
:lol

[Trill Clinton]

https://youtu.be/-Nnstylh2g8

My favorite pre game speech.

[texas4ever]

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[Eastexhorn]

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Very good choice!

[bluetrumpet]

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I’m thinking Coleman will be gone

[texas4ever]

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I’m thinking Coleman will be gone

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[texas4ever]

https://www.on3.com/boards/attachments/screenshot_20211219-172432_twitter-jpg.169054/

[Neo.]

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I’m thinking Coleman will be gone

good he's failed miserably

[Billybass]

Didn’t he coach Worthy ?

[Kermit]

Didn’t he coach Worthy ?

You and I could’ve coached X.

[Neo.]

Didn’t he coach Worthy ?

and dropped the ball horribly on recruiting WRs, while not getting much out of good receiver talent like moore, jake smith, and brennan eagles

[Neo.]

You and I could’ve coached X.

it's laughable how some of these guys here are so quick to defend clear failures of a 5-7 team

[Billybass]

The coaching change could also be related to Patterson

[Billybass]

I think Sark addressed the clearest failure with his emphasis on Oline recruiting

[Neo.]

The coaching change could also be related to Patterson

it's not. it's Coleman.


I think Sark addressed the clearest failure with his emphasis on Oline recruiting

he also addressed another failure by getting rid of a crappy WR coach/recruiter

[Kermit]

Sark has had a hell of an off-season.

[Billybass]

it's not. it's Coleman.



he also addressed another failure by getting rid of a crappy WR coach/recruiter
Hey you could be right, but who recruited worthy last year ?
It is not worth arguing over tho. You are not the only guy here who has issues with Coleman. I know texas4ever has issues with him too, so if he is getting replaced wonder who next guy will be ?

[Billybass]

Sark has had a hell of an off-season.
He really has. I never thought he could pull a class like that, after that debacle of a season. I hope he can coach as good as he recruits

[DMX7]

He really has. I never thought he could pull a class like that, after that debacle of a season. I hope he can coach as good as he recruits

If it weren’t for NIL and the national coaching carousel then I don’t think he does.

[bluetrumpet]

So is that Coach Marion the top choice right now? I haven’t heard much on the Twitter world

[pgardn]

Didn’t he coach Worthy ?

This was Sarks recruit.

Ewers arrives and we expect a receiver influx that does not happen.
Something is definitely wrong to turn em to ATM and such.

[playblair]

plz make defensive coach fire/hires........perferbly a coach who utilizes a 4dl set no more 2/3dl ish plzzzzzz

[Billybass]

This was Sarks recruit.

Ewers arrives and we expect a receiver influx that does not happen.
Something is definitely wrong to turn em to ATM and such.
ok,ok. Like I said earlier, fire his incompetent ass !!!!

[Neo.]

ok,ok. Like I said earlier, fire his incompetent ass !!!!

he already was, back when i told you he was. i wasnt just speculating :rolleyes

https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2021/12/19/texas-football-longhorns-andre-coleman-coach-not-retained-fired-steve-sarkisian-2022-season/

[Neo.]

So is that Coach Marion the top choice right now? I haven’t heard much on the Twitter world

yes, hopefully it happens

next, fire PK for patterson and things are looking really good

[playblair]

bruh if the pitt coach is hired as wr coach plz bring the belitnikoff winner jordan addison with plzzzzzzzz

[Kermit]

If it weren’t for NIL and the national coaching carousel then I don’t think he does.

They basically won the lottery. Fuck it.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

i still just can't believe the chode bloading over casey leaving roflrofl

LOL

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Losing Casey sucks. I think his injury affected his throwing pretty badly. I'd rather Card have transferred than Casey but it is what it is. Hope he doesn't go to OU.

[pgardn]

Losing Casey sucks. I think his injury affected his throwing pretty badly. I'd rather Card have transferred than Casey but it is what it is. Hope he doesn't go to OU.

I absolutely thought the same... as an insurance policy. Its obvious Ewers is the most talented, I just did not want Ewers crushed immediately as a freshman.

"I really would have like to have heard Thompson say he will be all healed up, understands his mistakes much better, and is more than ready to compete and become the Starter. Then pat Card on the back as he leaves. then a portal guy with experience as well." earlier post

But what I failed to remember, and was not pointed out, that this is Casey's LAST YEAR? He is a senior? Thompson would be absolutely foolish to stay as he would have to know he would most likely serve only a spring board to Ewers. He is not gonna sit around in the QB room talking and teaching the offense to Ewers with his clipboard in hand his senior year. Especially with his bothersome daddy. Who just burned a lot of bridges with his recent statements which is absolutely stupid. His son wants to go to another school and play all season, dont act like a pain in the ass while your son is in the portal...? (Bobby Burton and Hamilton referred to this on a podcast on youtube but it was one of those one day free things I guess) In any event, his dad did not make a clean exit for his son.

So If I got this correct, and this is Casey's last run, he really had to go. Hell he was probably told what he would most likely be... A teacher with a baseball cap and headset eventually.
So he aint staying as insurance for two other huge upside guys. I guess we have to hope Card improves because imo, freshly killed freshmen are more difficult to bring back to life. Our Oline has experience in humiliation, and a bunch of really good true freshmen chomping at the bit to replace them (I hope). This should light some fires I guess.

[rjv]

it's going to get harder and harder for schools to hold on to their QBs. I can guarantee that one of the current QBs lined up at A&M will not finish at A&M.

[Blake]

it's going to get harder and harder for schools to hold on to their QBs. I can guarantee that one of the current QBs lined up at A&M will not finish at A&M.

Yeah I mean I don't get how 5 star kids and their parents don't think about the other 5 star kids in the stables. I'd much rather go to a place where there's zero competition for the gig.

[Eastexhorn]

Belive Casey has two years left.

[Billybass]

I’m hearing he might go to TCU. Wherever he goes I wish him well

[pgardn]

These guys who do recruiting analysis picked the right gig for now.
All this moving around with the portal and the NIL stuff being a motivator gives them plenty to talk about.

[pgardn]

Belive Casey has two years left.

I cant find a clear statement on this.
They said he would be a senior but many seniors have an extra year of eligibility for Covid or whatever else?

[pgardn]

Yeah I mean I don't get how 5 star kids and their parents don't think about the other 5 star kids in the stables. I'd much rather go to a place where there's zero competition for the gig.

It may have the consequence of thinning out very deep teams.
which is probably good for creating a bit more parity.
But the NIL thing might do the opposite.
Who knows...

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The aggies just shifted the news cycle from talk of their all time class to being the biggest pussies in all of CFB on the 100th anniversary of the 12th man :lol lmao
If you want to laugh your ass off head to secrant right now. They're being annihilated lolololololol

http://https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/ (https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/)

[deafTEXASfan]

Texas lands commitment from Ohio State transfer CB Ryan Watts

[Billybass]

Looks like we hit ohio state pretty hard this year, with Watts and Ewers in portal and flipping the CB. Those are all damn good gets. I’m thinking all three of those guys will be difference makers.
Hard to imagine after the season we just had. Got to give Sark credit. Top 5 class with top ranked QB and another solid pickup in the portal.
If there was a ranking for improvement with portal and recruiting class combined, wonder what our rank would be ?

[Cowhorns01]

But that has to provide results on the field.

[Blake]

It may have the consequence of thinning out very deep teams.
which is probably good for creating a bit more parity.
But the NIL thing might do the opposite.
Who knows...

Kind of like baseball where there's been no salary cap, the Yankees have an unfair money advantage every year over teams like Kansas City or Oakland. That'll be the new NCAA, if this nil thing really gets crazy.

[Kermit]

Looks like we hit ohio state pretty hard this year, with Watts and Ewers in portal and flipping the CB. Those are all damn good gets. I’m thinking all three of those guys will be difference makers.
Hard to imagine after the season we just had. Got to give Sark credit. Top 5 class with top ranked QB and another solid pickup in the portal.
If there was a ranking for improvement with portal and recruiting class combined, wonder what our rank would be ?

Good. Stay the fuck out of Texas, you goddamn couch burners. The amount of talent poached by that school in the last 12 years is staggering.

[Das Texan]

The aggies just shifted the news cycle from talk of their all time class to being the biggest pussies in all of CFB on the 100th anniversary of the 12th man :lol lmao
If you want to laugh your ass off head to secrant right now. They're being annihilated lolololololol

http://https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/ (https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/)

Aggie just being Aggie.

Nothing to see here.

[200 miles]

What 5-7 team is going to replace them and play WF or is it going to be an SEC troll job and have 2-10 Vanderbilt in it?

[leemajors]

Moore to Tech

[Biggems]

Moore to Tech

they can have him. yes, he has some nice talent, but his attitude sucks.

[pgardn]

The aggies just shifted the news cycle from talk of their all time class to being the biggest pussies in all of CFB on the 100th anniversary of the 12th man :lol lmao
If you want to laugh your ass off head to secrant right now. They're being annihilated lolololololol

http://https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/ (https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/what-texas-aandm-posters-dont-understand/100378254/)

I wonder what happened to the 12th man thing?
The heroic entry of others to a team in need of players.
Does ATM have walk ons?

They really need to drop the 12th man thing. Give it back to Seattle or whatever that mess was.

[Eastexhorn]

Any one have an idea on number of spaces left? I thought 5 but read some where there is 8.

[Biggems]

I wonder what happened to the 12th man thing?
The heroic entry of others to a team in need of players.
Does ATM have walk ons?

They really need to drop the 12th man thing. Give it back to Seattle or whatever that mess was.

the Aggies have had the 12th man long before Seattle started using it.

[pgardn]

the Aggies have had the 12th man long before Seattle started using it.

Well they just lost it by dropping out of the bowl game.

[DMX7]

Moore to Tech

Going into this season I thought Moore and Thompson were the future. Shows what I know.

[deafTEXASfan]

Carson Wentz was placed on the Colts reserve/Covid list and being that he’s unvaccinated, he will be forced to miss their game against the Raiders this Sunday. The fate of Indy’s playoff hopes rest in the hands of Sam. I believe he will get it done!

[rjv]

nice opportunity for elingher; i hope he has a nice game

[bluetrumpet]

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[deafTEXASfan]

Aledo cornerback Jaden Allen becomes first 2024 Texas commit

[pgardn]

A good game to watch on Youtube is Duncanville v. Northshore as we have players in that game going against top notch opponents.
Cameron Williams is #56 OTDuncanville. Kris Ross #97 DT NS

They both look good. Ross looks very quick for a big guy. Williams is massive and looks much better than I imagined.
Nice thing is they both play when Duncanville has the ball. I think I only saw one or two plays where they actually hit each other.
I think Ross could be that quick DT who can out maneuver guards who already know where they are going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s43A1gpbafc

The game is of course full of athletes. I would have been neat to see either play Westlake. Westlake has that DE or edge who is very tall and quick. We got a good one there as well. If he grows any taller it might not be a good thing. He is very long.The OG we got from Westlake is fairly slow but very aggressive, he does not stop on plays.
Good games to watch.

[pgardn]

Pitt WR coach probably coming our way.

[Biggems]

Pitt WR coach probably coming our way.

I like it. It is good to get some young, up and coming (as well as promising) coaching talent.

Don't we still need one or two more coaches? Part of me definitely wants Patterson, but part of me doesn't. Thankfully it is not my decision to make.

[pgardn]

I like it. It is good to get some young, up and coming (as well as promising) coaching talent.

Don't we still need one or two more coaches? Part of me definitely wants Patterson, but part of me doesn't. Thankfully it is not my decision to make.

If we could get Patterson's Def. brains and leave the rest of him at home I would take it.
Very tough decision because Patterson believes he should be a head coach, so the ego part, what he expects to get out of this is probably more than we need, which is his knowledge and ability to organize a good defense. He knows football. I just think he might be a pain in the ass to be around because he wants THE job. I bet Patterson probably waits it out and finds a position that will allow him to be a HC again.

On another note. The best defensive lineman in the country from Tenn, (the guy the Aggies got) supposedly is the standout so far in the Under Armour camp.
We will see during the game but apparently he is a beast.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

i don't see the patterson allure, 50-60% of his success at TCU was his motivation, game plan, and success at beating us. How would that translate once he's with us? He always tripped over his fat messy sweaty pussy against OU

[pgardn]

i don't see the patterson allure, 50-60% of his success at TCU was his motivation, game plan, and success at beating us. How would that translate once he's with us? He always tripped over his fat messy sweaty pussy against OU

Fair points.

I think his ability to take very good HS athletes (not highly recruited) and find positions to fit them into on D was notable.
He also had a team that should have been in the playoffs, which we can’t seem to sniff. His record has trended bad thought lately. The big ego baggage is also probably weighty.


Note:
The Pitt receiver coach is ours.
So the offensive coaching and recruiting got better.

Now for our crappy D.

[Eastexhorn]

Tripping over OU is the kettle calling the pot black?

[playblair]

............greater than 2002 texas or any alabama class of their entire dominant saban dynasty run........a&m is cheating meanwhile texas thinks nil will even the field :lmao.............

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[Eastexhorn]

Board is on its last legs. RIP.

[Trill Clinton]

Did they start handing out Championship trophy's for having the #1 recruiting class?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Fair points.

I think his ability to take very good HS athletes (not highly recruited) and find positions to fit them into on D was notable.
He also had a team that should have been in the playoffs, which we can’t seem to sniff. His record has trended bad thought lately. The big ego baggage is also probably weighty.


Note:
The Pitt receiver coach is ours.
So the offensive coaching and recruiting got better.

Now for our crappy D.

I don't follow this stuff so closely, why was the Pitt WR coach considered a good get?

[pgardn]

Board is on its last legs. RIP.

Yep.
Input from all the people who found good info gone.

[benefactor]

Did they start handing out Championship trophy's for having the #1 recruiting class?
Doesn't matter. They will still put it on their stadium with other titles they claim they won:lol

[pgardn]

I don't follow this stuff so closely, why was the Pitt WR coach considered a good get?


Honestly I think a lot of it is our old WR coach was considered bad. Especially at recruiting.
For the Pitt guy, this will be his biggest gig so far. He coached a very good WR at Pitt and got a lot of praise from all the places he had been which was mostly small school stuff. I think this is the movement for younger coaches that can coach and recruit. He also was apparently a very good WR himself. I think that he is fairly innovative as well and had a really good interview with Sark. I think they saw a lot of offensive passing scheming the same way. I think this was more word of mouth than "skins on the wall" hire. I dont know about his ties with our recruiting area.

[bluetrumpet]

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wonder if mims or wease will be the next ones to transfer out.

[deafTEXASfan]

Sources: Texas DL Jordon Thomas returning to program this spring

[deafTEXASfan]

Greg Robinson passed away aged 70 from Alzheimer. Ex football coach at Texas 2004, 2013.

[rjv]

Greg Robinson passed away aged 70 from Alzheimer. Ex football coach at Texas 2004, 2013.

sad news to hear.

[DMX7]

Greg Robinson passed away aged 70 from Alzheimer. Ex football coach at Texas 2004, 2013.

He was a good coach and did a great job under bad circumstances in 2013 filling in for Manny Diaz.

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[deafTEXASfan]

Sources: Role at Texas likely for former TCU coach Gary Patterson

[deafTEXASfan]

Four-Star ATH Larry Turner-Gooden commitment to Texas

[bluetrumpet]

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hope these two work out!

[Billybass]

That would be wonderful ! I watched Sanders play at Denton Ryan. He is a beast ! Good young man all the way around. Got my fingers crossed !!

[bluetrumpet]

Sounds like things are heating up with Sanders and Billingsley from Bama! Should be day 1 starters

[pgardn]

Sounds like things are heating up with Sanders and Billingsley from Bama! Should be day 1 starters

Very nice.
Thanks for the info.

[deafTEXASfan]

Longhorns land Alabama transfer tight end Jahleel Billingsley but Drew Sanders to Arkansas.

[elbamba1]

Did Texas4Ever go the same way as TFloss?

[deafTEXASfan]

Gary Patterson is already working at Texas.

[bluetrumpet]

CY6nyOqs3M7

Say hello to the newest coach and off the field coach….Gary P!


Also,an interesting development with Isaiah Neyor 1483687561524649985

[texas4ever]

I had eye surgery, been out a few weeks. GP spotted in Orange and White!

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[Blake]

CY6nyOqs3M7

Say hello to the newest coach and off the field coach….Gary P!




Sort of a strange hire. I don't get it tbh

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/HookemHeadlines/status/1483638813935210496?s=20

With Ewers coming I can't see Manning being serious about going to Austin

[Eastexhorn]

With Ewers coming I can't see Manning being serious about going to Austin
Red shirt one year and then Ewers will be gone to NFL.

[Eastexhorn]

Texas4ever good to see you back.

[texas4ever]

https://twitter.com/justinwells2424/status/1483841806949359622?s=20

[Blake]

Red shirt one year and then Ewers will be gone to NFL.

That's still a hard sell. We'll see.

[Neo.]

Sort of a strange hire. I don't get it tbh

buddy of CDC

ready to take over reigns since sark and PK both probably have a short leash

[Blake]

buddy of CDC

ready to take over reigns since sark and PK both probably have a short leash

Lol I guess Texas really doesn't give a shit about buyouts any more.

[woofwoof]

We need Gary P for defensive help. I mean did you see it?

- has a ton of head coaching experience
- has coached in the Big 12 for a while now, knowledge of opponents
- his defensive mind, should take the reigns of defense if Pete K. just can't get it done.
- familiarity with CDC
-SHHHH Ochaun Mathis. Sssshhhhh
-recruiting help
-maximizing potential in players (known for taking qbs to making them good defensive players)
- overall feeling of knowing hey sark, you don't have long to produce something better than a 6 game losing streak and lose to Kansas in first year.

[Billybass]

Patterson has a huge ego, but he IS a damn good coach. I will bet that you our defense will be a lot better with him involved.
now the ego thing ? That could be a problem. That will be another challenge for Sark. I personally don’t think he will ever be a head coach here. Already too many egos at Texas.
But I would hire the guy, because he will make us better.

[Billybass]

Good to have you back Texas4ever !!!

[bluetrumpet]

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Neyor?!?


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well that answers that

[pgardn]

Sort of a strange hire. I don't get it tbh

We are having trouble putting a name to his position with the team as well.
I think the fact he is so good at evaluating talent and defense was important.
Also he is supposed to have an edge guy coming along with him which is a HUGE area of need.
But Ochaun Mathis has not put in his commitment in yet. Patterson hire was guaranteed to bring this Mathis who automatically starts for us by default.
So if this falls through... not a good look to start with.

Also there is a tendency to hire people who beat you consistently, which Patterson did, and claim them Gods.
Patterson's defenses lost some of their sting lately with the loss of one of his really good assistants.
Sort of sounds familiar with Beard imo.

And Patterson could negative recruit the hell out of us, so... Maybe he could also help in the recruiting.
The weird part is this is a Nationally known head coach who is taking this kind of step? I would call it down.
Where were all the other Power 5 schools ready for him to take over? Surely all his assistants were ready to follow after a very poor season?

Maybe he really is looking for a year or two of zero responsibility via blame. No one can say Patterson did a horrible job this next year so we were bad again.

[pgardn]

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Neyor?!?


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well that answers that

HOly crap this is good news.
We might have gotten another WR late but this guy was wanted by our staff badly.
So now we need an edge rusher, a safety, a LB. We got a TE which was not the biggest area of need.

What else?

Maybe an OL transfer at tackle on the scale of Calvin Anderson? Having true freshman starting against Alabama second game... I dont think our remaining linemen fill the bill entirely unless they get tons better. We dont need our QBs getting slammed constantly this year. And it would be nice to keep Bijan alive as well.

[pgardn]

losing Dicker to the NFL...

That could cost a close game or two. Hopefully our offense is much better as his punting was quite good and really helped. A bit of inaccuracy on FG but the range was fantastic.

I dont even know who our other PK will be.

[Eastexhorn]

Lots of needs few spaces. One space for Campbell and how many left? 1?

Pearson will be punter or a WO.

[texas4ever]

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[Neo.]

https://twitter.com/HornSports/status/1484632392954527744?s=20

very exciting pickup imo

[Biggems]

I am glad Dicker is leaving....he was too inconsistent. He hit a few big kicks, but missed some big ones too.

I look forward to the next kicker, hopefully he will be the 2nd coming of Justin Tucker or even Phil Dawson.

[woofwoof]

Bert Auburn.

[Neo.]

I am glad Dicker is leaving....he was too inconsistent. He hit a few big kicks, but missed some big ones too.

I look forward to the next kicker, hopefully he will be the 2nd coming of Justin Tucker or even Phil Dawson.

glad? idk about that. how quick we forget the horrendous kicking situation in the 6 years between tucker and dicker, with one good year of fera mixed in there

Id say we should be pretty happy with dickers years overall

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/1484574158382112771?s=20

I mean, just an awkward title. Gotta feel sorry for the DC hearing "well what I would do here is..." all day

[Neo.]

I mean, just an awkward title. Gotta feel sorry for the DC hearing "well what I would do here is..." all day

I would agree, except the DC fielded a historically bad defense for the team despite having plenty of talented players, so he put himself in this situation

[Biggems]

I would agree, except the DC fielded a historically bad defense for the team despite having plenty of talented players, so he put himself in this situation

I concur.....If you don't want someone else in your kitchen while you are cooking, stop serving up prison slop to the masses. Had he been serving up gourmet meals, then today we would all be like Gary who?

[Blake]

Or they could just axe the DC

[Neo.]

Or they could just axe the DC

yeah i dont disagree with this either lol

ig i just dont care how PK feels about the situation. this was a horribly undeserved second chance he got. if he didnt want it, he could just quit.

[Billybass]

Patterson will probably be gone soon. And PK wasn’t exactly put in a good spot. The defense was not good. But the offense sucked too. So Sark is responsible for most of that.
Hopefully they will pick his brain for 1 year and show him the door. Patterson is an egomaniac. That kind of shit gets old quick.

[Eastexhorn]

Nothing wrong with offense till Casey hurt his thumb.

[Neo.]

:lmao still semen shielding for casey when his mental flaws were exposed well before this thumb injury

[Eastexhorn]

Card man?

[pgardn]

We were told how deep and talented our D line was at the beginning of the year last year. (second only to the RB position)
We had zero ability on the edge.
We were told how our d lineman would occupy the opponents O line so the linebackers could make plays.
Our LBs could not find a RB, no vision. And the Lbs who might have been able to actually read seams were mud slow. Overshown is playing college football again this year because he was bad and he got hurt. We had to put an ex receiver from the NW to play safety... Have either one of our ex safetys "stars" Foster/Amidora been picked up in the portal? Why not... ? 5 and 4 star at S not swooped up immediately?

Surely Patterson can tell if guys our out of position and who can play what on defense.
We get told that players will be put in a position to succeed and we play LBs next to Overshown who cant even move well. And Overshown just cant find people.
imo lots of fixing on both O line and D line as well and hope our QBs survive if our O line fails to block again. Its no mistake that our best recruiting for this next year relied heavily on people who can play hopefully play O line. And imo we still need Campbell badly as we might have to have two true FR Olinemen starting.

We really need a good season and play really good games. Or we wont be able to take advantage of the recruiting gifts we were given by coaches switching schools and the NIL money again like we did this year.

[Eastexhorn]

Best edge man was hurt most of the season Jones! Do not worry chances we will beat Kansas this year.

[elbamba1]

Patterson will probably be gone soon. And PK wasn’t exactly put in a good spot. The defense was not good. But the offense sucked too. So Sark is responsible for most of that.
Hopefully they will pick his brain for 1 year and show him the door. Patterson is an egomaniac. That kind of shit gets old quick.

PK was awesome in Washington and in Boise State. He was a big reason Peterson had so much success in both places. He needs a little time but I think we he will make our defense great.

[texas4ever]

Hello!

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1485694366136033282?s=20

[Billybass]

Hello!

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1485694366136033282?s=20

Get out the wallet !!!

[Biggems]

Get out the wallet !!!

I did, unfortunately all I found was an expired coupon for HEB and some lint.

[Billybass]

I did, unfortunately all I found was an expired coupon for HEB and some lint.
Haha. You must not be an Aggie

[woofwoof]

He's Florida or LSU bound.

[Billybass]

That’s what I’m hearing too. But recruiting has been crazy. NIL money has everything upside down. You just never know these days.
I think Campbell is solid, but I am nervous

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[texas4ever]

Inside Texas hinting this Morning that Texas more than likely will not be joining the SEC until 2024.

[texas4ever]

2023 Notes form IT:

On Tuesday we discussed the landscape from a university perspective, today Eric Nahlin and Gerry Hamilton cover the talent angle for the 2023 recruiting class.


Where is the in-state 2023 class strong and where is this class lacking?


GH: Wide receiver is going to be a strength every year in the Lone Star State as a spread-heavy state with a strong 7v7 presence. The 2023 class is very good with depth at slot receiver types. Defensive line is pretty strong as well. Same thing with cornerback, which should also always be the case in Texas. Depth on the offensive line is lacking in 2023, and it will especially look that way when being judged against stacked classes of 2021 and 2022 on the OL.


EN: I like the D-line quite a bit, mainly because of the defensive end and EDGE options. Wide receiver has a good mix of smaller and bigger receivers. I think some of the slots GH mentions can play inside and outside, which is an added advantage when Steve Sarkisian is recruiting. Defensive back is strong in general, with three top-flight corners already and a number of safety targets who can play at Texas. Off-the-ball linebacker is mostly MIA, but having Anthony Hill as an option is better than in most cycles. There are some intriguing athletes at the position. Evaluation will be extremely important there. Quarterback isn’t a strength, but UT might not enter the in-state market. Tight end is not deep, but Texas shouldn’t have to dig too far down anyway. One thing on O-line, I’m waiting to see how many come to light in the spring. Schools will have their first real spring to evaluate in a couple of years. The current crop isn’t as good as years past but Texas could still have a successful class if it recruits the existing group well.


Every cycle has a certain number of players who aren’t fungible, in other words, once you miss on them, it’s very difficult to replace them. Who are those players in this class?


GH: Rueben Owens at running back. This will be an Texas vs. Texas A&M decision at the end of the day, and the loser of the race will not have a back in the state that can replace the talent level of Owens. Anthony Hill also falls into that category. The linebacker position also lacks high-end depth making Hill’s recruitment a huge one. With Texas struggling recruiting the linebacker position, it’s even more impactful.


EN: I agree on both of those, fortunately Texas can recruit running back nationally. Not comparing Owens to Zach Evans, but it could be like 2020 where UT is forced to go out of state. It worked out well that time. Hill is the one that really stands out because of the need and UT’s issues recruiting the position. I’d add Dalton Brooks to the mix. With Peyton Bowen already committed to Notre Dame, Brooks is the only other elite safety I’ve seen so far. I’ve seen good options, but Texas needs to land at least one elite talent in this class. I also don’t view Jaydon Chatman as fungible — there just aren’t a lot of left tackle candidates in the cycle.


A follow-up, who are the players in the running to be ranked five-stars?


GH: David Hicks is a 5-star prospect. He’s likely to remain a top 10-15 level prospect nationally the entire way barring something unforeseen. Markis Deal, if being evaluated as an offensive lineman, could push to be a 5-star. His defensive lineman athleticism with a tremendous frame provides the opportunity. Deal prefers to be recruited as a defensive lineman, however. The spring camp circuit, testing and spring on the track will be key for some others that could in the conversation.


EN: When Ian Boyd was watching Deal to write about him for a Notebook, his immediate text was, “why isn’t this guy a five-star, again?” Gerry laid out the reasons but that just tells you the upside of Deal on offense. Even Ian can see it! Hicks is a sure-fire five-star. I like Javien Toviano as one as well. Owens is a five-star to me and based on junior film, Johntay Cook is in the running, though probably more of a top 50 player. I go back and forth on Hill as a five-star.


Every class also has players who have the traits, but not necessarily the tape and therefore have more upside than their ranking would indicate. A guy we both liked in 2022 was Michael Ibukun-Okeyode from Rowlett. Who are some guys with higher NFL ceilings than their current rating suggests?


GH: EDGE Enow Etta instantly comes to mind on that Ibukun-Okeyode trajectory. Round Rock defensive tackle and recent Texas offer Ansel Nedore has that look and upside ability. One more is Rockwall wide receiver Noble Johnson, but as a linebacker with edge and space ability. Watch out for North Shore safety Jayven Anderson as a linebacker long term as well.


EN: Etta is a good pick and I’m surprised we haven’t heard more noise between him and Texas. Nedore, too. There’s some Moro Ojomo to him. Braylan Shelby is rated fairly high, but not high enough based on his combo of length and athleticism. Your clip of offensive lineman Ian Reed last night puts him in this category. I really like Flood’s evaluation of Andre Cojoe as well. He has the baseline traits in excess, he’s just still really young.


What players are you higher on after their recently completed junior years? Maybe you were a skeptic at first but now they have your full attention.


GH: On3 was the first to rank Ryan Niblett, so I wasn’t a skeptic. With that said, he is going to push to be a top 40 prospect in this class if he does what is expected on the track this spring. The Eisenhower staff thinks 10.6 in the 100m, 21.0 in the 200m and a 48’0” triple jump are likely this spring. Johntay Cook has gotten back on the daily grind with Margin Hooks, and that was needed. He had some jaw dropping drops early in the season in a loss at Converse Judson. He’s back and focused, looking more like a top 60 level prospect nationally.


EN: I thought cornerback Braxton Myers had a good year. He’s still a safety in my view, but he’s going to be a good college player. I’ve had issues with Jaden Greathouse’s fit dating back to his freshman year, but I’m over it. He just moves too well and should kill it as a flexed receiving option if he finds the right offense.


With the class not being as talented as in previous years, what’s the proper percentage of Texas recruits vs out of state recruits?


GH: Tough call there. Eight of the 27 signees were from out of state in the 2022 class. So much depends on how Texas fares on the field this season, and the chief competition for in-state talent. Oklahoma and LSU new staffs, and can Texas A&M ascend on the field under Jimbo Fisher? If Texas handles business and wins eight or nine games, then that OOS number gets smaller. The move to the SEC sell should resonate pretty well too. I’ll say seven of 25 comes from out of state.


EN: Another tough call is, will they go down their in-state board? Not necessarily reach, because we know Sark doesn’t do that, but take guys they really like instead of love. They‘re in good standing with a number of players they’ve offered. With the additions of Tashard Choice and Brennan Marion, I think they’ll look to recruit outside Texas borders a bit more. I think the number will be between 7 and 10. If they land Arch Manning, he’ll count as one, but maybe a handful more as UT would be able to recruit more nationally with him in the class.


Where will the staff have the most success looking for out of state prospects and do any individual recruits strike you as Texas having a legitimate chance?


GH: Has to be Louisiana for me. Closest state, and questions surrounding Brian Kelly at LSU. On300 No. 14 Zalance Heard talks with Bo Davis almost daily. That recruitment will come down to staying strong about being recruited as a defensive tackle, and Nick Saban only offering down the line as an offensive lineman.


EN: Definitely Louisiana, though they’ll try for one-offs in Utah, Florida, Georgia, etc. Heard is a real target, as is corner back Jordan Matthews.

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IT:

What, if anything, did we learn about the staff from the 2022 cycle that will carry over to 2023?


GH: The main thing is that Steve Sarkisian and staff are going to recruit the top targets through the whistle. They proved that they will stay in the fight, and are focused on signing the players they view as the best high school prospects. The Texas staff may be forced to take that strategy outside the state lines more in the 2023 cycle as the in-state crop isn’t quite to the level of the special 2022 cycle and tremendous 2021 cycle.


EN: That’s my main takeaway, too. The resolve to not reach, even as the class labored at times, pairs well in the portal climate where you can address class deficiencies. We saw this specifically at quarterback, where they initially signed Maalik Murphy, a player who will need time to develop; at tight end where they didn’t sign a high schooler; and at wide receiver.


I think we also learned, or confirmed some individual thoughts about the coaches as recruiters. Bo Davis still has the Midas touch and connections in the South. Kyle Flood had some struggles, and required some luck, but when it counted he showed he had good relationships in place to take advantage of that luck. Terry Joseph showed perhaps the most resolve by staying on Terrance Brooks until the very end. Jeff Banks probably didn’t get the credit he deserved on a number of “assists.” He held up his end of the bargain.


On the flip side, we learned Jeff Choate might not be up to the task to recruit the same type of quality of linebacker to Texas we saw in O-line, D-line, and DB recruiting. That’s instructive as Texas prepares to go all out for Denton Ryan linebacker Anthony Hill.


What is UT’s standing in the 2023 cycle as it prepares to officially kick off?


GH: Texas needs to win on the field, period. The staff is liked as personalities and seen in a positive manner. But that doesn’t matter if the wins don’t come this season. Texas is not the “cool school” with the majority of top prospects right now, and there is only one way to change that perception. Texas needs Quinn Ewers to be really good, and the wins to follow.


EN: Fans need to mentally kick the success of 2022 high school and portal recruiting to the curb and buckle up for a roller coaster 2023 cycle. If you don’t believe us, believe Steve Sarkisian who, out of necessity, is already showing much more early aggression this cycle than last.


The costs of 5-7 come due at some point, and that’s going to be this spring and perhaps early summer. That written, the school itself, regardless of coaching staff, sets a high floor. Every cycle UT has natural leans due to academics, location, and tradition. While 5-7 does sting, many coaches do have individual track records they can sell. On top of that, NIL should help medicate some of the aches associated with the disappointing season.


Two new volume recruiters in Brennan Marion and Tashard Choice will also help.


The landscape has changed tremendously in the region in a very short time. Let’s first talk about changes at Texas Tech, TCU, as well as Baylor’s impact after winning the Big 12.


GH: TCU will be the thorn in the side due to its recruiting staff. A lot of recruiting chops on the Horned Frogs staff. TCU will need to have some instant success on the field next season, however. That is because Baylor is established under Dave Aranda, and Joey McGuire will battle hard in the DFW area for the same prospects. Should Texas Tech make a little noise in year-one under McGuire, the job of the TCU staff becomes tougher. Baylor’s Big 12 Championship will certainly help get prospects on campus in the 2023 and 2024 cycles.


EN: New coaches equal new energy, and high school players gravitate to energy (e.g., early returns on Choice and Marion at Texas). Sonny Dykes has a number of young, hungry recruiters, on top of in-state familiarity and a good reputation throughout the state. Dave Aranda has the abrupt turnaround that led to a Big 12 Championship to sell, on top of his own defensive chops and Jeff Grimes’ track record on offense. Joey McGuire has energy, a quality staff by Tech standards, and is incredibly popular in Dallas. He also knows the Baylor sell quite well, having coached there under both Matt Rhule and Aranda.


Both Aranda and McGuire are making a clear push to get in good with the 2023 under-the-radar players, as well as the 2024 class. In particular, Aranda shows a keen, early eye for talent.


Texas shouldn’t be in too many direct battles with these schools, but don’t be surprised when these three schools land their share of players who are good enough to be at UT.


Lincoln Riley departs Oklahoma for USC. In turn, OU hires Brent Venables as head coach and Jeff Lebby as offensive coordinator. How does this new look OU impact UT?


GH: The immediate perception is very tough for the Sooners with the departure of Caleb Williams and offensive friends. With that said, this staff is already doing work in the DFW area with 2023 On3 Consensus four-star QB Jackson Arnold. Oklahoma will compete in Texas, as always, but the meat of the recruiting success will come from Texas and east with the move to the SEC. The big question for the new Oklahoma staff will be replacing the strong state of California recruiting over the last few years. The departure of Riley to USC hurts that quite a bit.


EN: My main takeaway is, with all the losses OU has experienced since Riley departed, their 2023 class is sure to be quite large. This means they can be more aggressive in their willingness to take players UT might like, but not quite love. This could hurt UT, especially if Sark et al don’t gain much traction this spring and summer.


Landing Arnold not only gives Venables a strong foothold in ultra-talented Denton, but also DFW.


OU’s pitch this year, for once, will be style over substance. This isn’t the same team that threatened to make the playoffs every year, but Venables will be able to sell it as such because of how strong that program has been this century. He also retained some members from Riley’s staff.


A similar question regarding LSU. Out goes Ed Orgeron, in comes Brian Kelly and some peculiar staff moves. How do the changes in Baton Rouge affect Texas?


GH: To start, unless it’s Nick Saban the LSU fanbase isn’t going to be completely onboard with a new hire. Brian Kelly will win because he’s a college Hall of Fame level coach. He’s not the best fit personality-wise. He will have a tremendous coaching staff, and win over people over time. With that said, the state is open to more high-level prospects leaving initially. For Texas, the more Kelly struggles early and on the field in year-one, the better. Texas has to have some level of success in the Pelican State with the state of California being tougher with Lincoln Riley at USC.


EN: With the way the staff is structured, I see opportunity for Texas to exploit. Terry Joseph, Bo Davis, and defensive analyst Cordae Hankton have strong relationships throughout the state. In particular, UT should make things interesting with defensive prospects in Louisiana.


The other side of that coin, is, that LSU staff won’t be able to initially poach Texas talent.


Jimbo Fisher was forced to replace defensive coordinator Mike Elko, but curiously losing a successful long-term defensive coordinator didn’t slow down the Aggie recruiting train. Will A&M pick up where they left off and challenge for another No. 1 ranked overall class?


GH: Not sure about No. 1 overall because the state of Texas won’t be littered with 5-stars and top 50 prospects to the level of 2022. With that said, the Aggies are recruiting nationally with tremendous success. The No. 1 class was the latest in five straight top 10 classes. The momentum coming off No. 1 class and beating Alabama with a lot of future NFL Draft selections to come has a “mini cool school” feeling going right now in recruiting. Prospects are more curious than any time in my two decades plus in the business. Texas A&M is extremely serious about doing what Georgia just did, end a drought - and a much longer one.


EN: Credit to the Aggies for their organization and ability to take advantage of the new recruiting climate. They caught a lot of schools napping in their own territory. It’s doubtful they’ll be able to poach the same level of players from hotbeds like Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, and Sweden again, but they are not going away and will have another top 5 class unless Jimbo Fisher hits the point of recruiting stagflation stagnation in his fifth year.

Who are the big, early recruiting battles between UT and A&M?


GH: David Hicks was one, but that has turned into Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma. Markis Deal could be another. Johntay Cook is one the Aggies would love to beat Texas on to grab big early momentum. Rueben Owens would be a big beat down of Texas too, especially with Tashard Choice now in Austin. And then there is Anthony Hill. Hill was thought to be a Texas vs. Oklahoma battle in the closer-to-home race, but the Aggies will be right there. If Texas A&M beats Texas out for Dalton Brooks, the Longhorns fanbase will not be happy. Texas A&M fancied beating out Texas for Johnny Bowens, but the Longhorns staff wasn’t all-in on the San Antonio area upside prospect. That is not the case with the others.


EN: Texas is going to be fine on the offensive and defensive lines, and running back as well. Owens will be a big priority, make no mistake, but UT is positioned well to go out of state and capitalize on Bijan Robinson’s success, not unlike when they pulled Robinson out of Arizona despite a strong instate running back class in 2020. I’m watching Anthony Hill with extreme interest. UT hasn’t recruited linebacker well of late, which makes him even more important. For the first time in a long time, I have confidence UT will recruit wide receiver well, but losing Cook to A&M would be a very bad beat. As it stands right now, with all the new data points, I still feel UT is in a good spot for Cook.


What will a successful 2023 class look like for Texas?


GH: A top 10 class with needs met at linebacker, continued quality depth on the offensive line, and more high end talent on the defensive line. Can’t express enough how big it is to keep signing high-end offensive line and defensive line talent. On the defensive line, it needs to be the talent that Texas will face in the SEC conference. That will be something to watch moving forward. It can’t be two steps down in overall athletic ability in big frames on the defensive front.


EN: Landing Arch Manning and letting the skill talent fall into place. They absolutely have to address wide receiver with elite players, not good ones. To build a program, you have to turn your elite talent into positions that recruit themselves. That means taking advantage of having Bijan Robinson at running back and Xavier Worthy at wide receiver. Find a frontline off-the-ball linebacker and two other prospects who can become that. On the lines, I’m more interested in prospects with high ceilings than high floors. The largesse of the previous class, in conjunction with access to the portal, should allow them time to develop upside players rather than finding those who can play immediately. They need clean-fit corners more so than safeties.

[texas4ever]

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[Eastexhorn]

Texas4ever verry nice articles thanks. Only thing I disagre on is Cook there is 3-4 more WRS as good as him.

Get Manning and skill positions will follow.

[Blake]

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Look at Mack Brown putting in work at UNC. The best salesman in the college football country bar none

[pgardn]

Look at Mack Brown putting in work at UNC. The best salesman in the college football country bar none

When he was an announcer it became clearer to me. He is really a very approachable fellow.
Grandpa Mack is basically a nice guy who enjoys people, so he found the right profession. Salesman.

[leemajors]

When he was an announcer it became clearer to me. He is really a very approachable fellow.
Grandpa Mack is basically a nice guy who enjoys people, so he found the right profession. Salesman.

He's the nicest guy you'll ever meet. My friend works for LHN/ESPN, and I have got in free to see basketball games through the back with him and a borrowed press pass. I talked to him for several minutes, and he remembered my name when the conversation ended. All we said was Hey, Mack and he came over to say hi. I can easily see how he would be at home anywhere talking to any recruit. That being said, he needed to go.

[Eastexhorn]

Best snake oil sales man bar none. fify

[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[texas4ever]

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[pgardn]

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ATM goes 8-4 and skips their bowl game because the 12th man died.
Texas goes 5-7 and, especially if Campbell signs, will sign their best OL class.

Yeah the NIL makes a difference. And the SEC loves them some UT despite what the Aggies think.

We came to pay (and possibly learn to play) just like they do. Let semi pro football begin.
Waiting for classes for football players to be abolished (maybe that had sorta already happened)
If Lane wants to be able to pay top dollar go make USC good like he did not do before.

[Eastexhorn]

Make USC good?

[pgardn]

Make USC good?

Yes.
Kiffin complains. USC is now run by Riley. Kiffin WAS at USC.
And USC has lots of $$ and players around. Riley understood this.
USC has the potential to pay TOP NIL bucks to very good California players who were leaving that State.

ie Kiffin loss his chance at lowly Mississippi who got on the map paying players illegally. NOW, its legal. But its also a competition.
Ole Miss does not have the NIL money other teams will be capable of paying, this is the bottom line of Kiffin's complaint.
The field is not level.

[pgardn]

Imo we need to get Campbell as it will not a good look for recruiting vs.OU.
Then we have the larger problem of actually winning games and looking good while winning.

[rjv]

ATM goes 8-4 and skips their bowl game because the 12th man died.
Texas goes 5-7 and, especially if Campbell signs, will sign their best OL class.

Yeah the NIL makes a difference. And the SEC loves them some UT despite what the Aggies think.

We came to pay (and possibly learn to play) just like they do. Let semi pro football begin.
Waiting for classes for football players to be abolished (maybe that had sorta already happened)
If Lane wants to be able to pay top dollar go make USC good like he did not do before.

lane is just bitching because he knows (as does saban) that his alum base 1) doesn't have the $$$ that texas and texas a&m have and 2) aren't as willing to spend the equivalent of Burkina Faso's GDP for a national title.

[pgardn]

lane is just bitching because he knows (as does saban) that his alum base 1) doesn't have the $$$ that texas and texas a&m have and 2) aren't as willing to spend the equivalent of Burkina Faso's GDP for a national title.

Agree totally and what I was saying. USC can join in the pay to play game IF, they want to.

The new world has come and fortunately for Alabama the $ gratification will come later in the form of pro football contracts... for now.

[texas4ever]

Stellar OL haul for Texas this class! Best in the Nation!

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[Blake]

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That's basically it. It's like the MLB with no salary cap. The Yankees will always be competitive because they don't care how much they spend while teams like Kansas City will only be good if they luck out in the draft

[pgardn]

Stellar OL haul for Texas this class! Best in the Nation!

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Very good news!
Coach em up.

[Blake]

lane is just bitching because he knows (as does saban) that his alum base 1) doesn't have the $$$ that texas and texas a&m have and 2) aren't as willing to spend the equivalent of Burkina Faso's GDP for a national title.

I think he's got a valid gripe but there's nothing he can do except bend over

[pgardn]

That's basically it. It's like the MLB with no salary cap. The Yankees will always be competitive because they don't care how much they spend while teams like Kansas City will only be good if they luck out in the draft

Its like people had no idea what would happen when players get paid with barely any rules...
These are huge rich rabid fan bases. One school with a billionaire owner might be able to play the game as well.
This was not thought out well at all. We went over this on this board.

[pgardn]

I think he's got a valid gripe but there's nothing he can do except bend over

Absolutely a valid gripe.
Now the Ole Miss illegal paying just had a tsunami hit it.

[pgardn]

imo the "cheating stuff" will now be directed at coaching staff's getting a hold of donor and donation organizations and suggesting to the organizations which players to pay and how much.

And I have no idea if its legal or not under the nothingness that the neutered NCAA has put out on this topic.
Especially since the NCAA was basically brushed away when they gave the. "hold up on this", signal when what is now the NIL "first" arose at Northwestern.

[pgardn]

Stellar OL haul for Texas this class! Best in the Nation!

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At the UnderArmor game, playing with and against the best kids in the country, Campbell had his head up and was off the ball first ON EVERY play.
Apparently he is super quick and dunks at 6 2" over 300 lbs on the basketball team? That takes some very high twitch legs. He is projected as a Guard in the big leagues but can play tackle for us if needed.
Whoa... Dont get hurt. No hammy problems please.

He also loves defensive tackle. But says he will not play there if we dont want him to.

[Eastexhorn]

Sorry misunderstood on how Kiffin could make USC good.

[pgardn]

Sorry misunderstood on how Kiffin could make USC good.

No problemo.

This is all quite interesting, these sec coaches getting riled at each other.
jumbo is not coming clean. Just say your kids get NIL money like everyone else.
"its an insult to our recruiting, and insult to our kids and, we have no fund" Just say "we" do the same as other schools, pay kids

Saban admitted his QB got 7 figures. Ohio St. put some stuff out. We said there is a fund for our kids and OLineman. but not the Aggies... the kids come because its a great school.

[texas4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SJ1kErFBPI

[Biggems]

helluva game, a tourney worthy game. that game reminded me of the Duke/UNC slugfests of the 90s.

a great win for the Horns. anytime we beat KU it is special.

Hook em

[Eastexhorn]

K. Crawford has switched positions now at saftey. Should be a good move with his size and speed.

[woofwoof]

Where did you see that?

[Eastexhorn]

OB reported it.

[pgardn]

Seems that the NIL along with the transfer portal is still an open book as far as rules, so this is the perfect time to have Gary Patterson rummaging around not only on our team for "unseen" fits on D, but outside our current team. We got lucky with Riley leaving. And we are lucky the rules are so flexible. A 5-7 team with a horrid D has the possibility for a big reset.

We need O. Mathis and we need zero injuries (tiny margin for error).
LB, another WR, safety... we are plugging leaks. Hell, even a portal O line guy at tackle would be helpful.
Number of spots...? I hope this works itself out.

[Eastexhorn]

Number of spots? I came up with 32, then came 36 later Sark said 35. Only time will tell.

Over the 85 limitfor sure so some must leave by August. Spring training will tell a lot.

[pgardn]

Number of spots? I came up with 32, then came 36 later Sark said 35. Only time will tell.

Over the 85 limitfor sure so some must leave by August. Spring training will tell a lot.

Yep.

[Eastexhorn]

Heard that Blackwell is also working out at saftey.

[pgardn]

Heard that Blackwell is also working out at saftey.

We need edge people. we need LBs, we need safeties.
Maybe Patterson and the DC "in charge" can put their heads together and start moving people around now.
And then if we can get O. Mathis and other(s) from the portal we can figure something out in the end.

The only thing they seem to feel comfortable with on D is CB and interior Dlinemen, and thats assuming people play well. ie we have some talent, but it might not work out when we actually play. Its a bit worrying.

The only position we really have numbers of guys with experience who we know can do a job is RB. For instance, it seems they feel very good about Neyor and Worthy. But if one or both get injured... Having Jordan Whittington to fill or start in not exactly comforting from an injury point of view. Then at TE, we dont seem to have one guy who we know can block and know can get open and catch the ball, but we got a lot of guys in the room.

Its got to be better than 5-7, but by how much seems very much in doubt. And we get Alabama 2nd game. They have the two best edge guys in the country. We are scratching our heads for who plays which Otackles. Who wants to play QB and wait for a route to break open... ?

[Eastexhorn]

Very good post on problems of roster. I am waiting for spring game starting lineups to see how it all shakes out.

Some positions will be decided in spring, but alot will go on till fall. OL, DB, LB and edge.

[Biggems]

Man, Baylor took us out behind the barn, and whooped that ass raw.....we would be sittin down for a week or two after that spanking.

[Eastexhorn]

Some one fail to set the alarm?

[Eastexhorn]

Spring roster is out on UT site.

[pgardn]

Apparently they did some sprints and the fastest on the team is X. Worthy

2nd place was surprising.

[rogcl1]

Apparently they did some sprints and the fastest on the team is X. Worthy

2nd place was surprising.

So who was second?

[kutrati]

Supposedly Jordan Whittington

[rogcl1]

Supposedly Jordan Whittington

Thanks.

[rogcl1]

Supposedly Jordan Whittington

Thanks.

[pgardn]

The speed contest will change when Brenan Thompson is in school.

Apparently he ran a 10.4 at a early spring event. It was recorded as 10.22 by some.
Anyway any doubts about him really being THAT fast because "small school" was dispelled as many people have gotten interested in him.
Nothing about him wanting to run track until he gets closer to 10 flat. He was 10.32 last years best.
Unusually, he apparently has a whole lot of lateral quickness as well. If he gains X like receiver skills... we got very "lucky."

[benefactor]

Texas/TCU about to start. Lets see if they can finally act like somebody

[benefactor]

Looking good so far...raining threes tbh

[benefactor]

:lol...more of the same

[Blake]

:lol

[Neo.]

so is it the coach or is it texas?

[Mark Celibate]

so is it the coach or is it texas?

Beard's Tech teams would also routinely shit the bed and lay eggs in the Big XII tournament like Stoooooooops lays eggs in BCS games tbh imho

[pgardn]

Its not surprising.
They work hard but they are such a ragtag group.

And they dont have any talent on offense to penetrate and make the defense chase.
When they are relying on the 3 and it goes bad, there is hardly any other way to score in a consistent manner.
It is amazing how long this team can go without scoring and still stay in games imo.

I cant see them putting any type of T. Tech run in the NCAA playoffs with this group and its obvious flaws on offense. If they do, it will be luck. Scoring has been difficult all year, every game it seems.

Must hit 3s, must make FTs, must be able to get the easy two when needed.. not gonna happen in back to back games. They rely on playing hard. It only goes so far when there is no cohesion on offense.

Give TCU some credit as well. They have played some good games lately.

[Blake]

so is it the coach or is it texas?

That's a question that's been meandering through these parts for a decade now across all sports.

I mean we all know 5 star talent arrives in Austin by the short bus load but in this last ten year time frame it has translated into Jack shit. I mean, how does #1 UT baseball team lose to Texas State today?

I would love a grant funded study to really dissect this but since that'll never happen, I'll just throw out a guess and say these kids are mostly spoiled and coddled and have no chip on their shoulder. I really can't come up with any other reason for them underperforming the way they do in Austin but I'm willing to listen to any other theories.

[Mark Celibate]

That's a question that's been meandering through these parts for a decade now across all sports.

I mean we all know 5 star talent arrives in Austin by the short bus load but in this last ten year time frame it has translated into Jack shit. I mean, how does #1 UT baseball team lose to Texas State today?

I would love a grant funded study to really dissect this but since that'll never happen, I'll just throw out a guess and say these kids are mostly spoiled and coddled and have no chip on their shoulder. I really can't come up with any other reason for them underperforming the way they do in Austin but I'm willing to listen to any other theories.

My theory is booster meddling. Too many cooks in the kitchen, "hey I donated X millions of dollars to your program so you guys better do it my way, treat this player well, and/or play this guy X minutes". So no coach is ever going to come and have complete control. Same way the Cowboys have a revolving door of head coaches but the meddling owner has too much say in who plays and who doesn't week to week

[Fat Brandon Bass]

The more I listen to Chris Beard, the more I start to think he's the wrong coach for a place like UT that has a history of over-coddling players. I see a lot of jovial "chest slaps" to his players during post game press conferences after losses. Also saying things like "this is UT, we know what the standard is" which doesn't make sense considering their basketball program is not a powerhouse. This just feeds more and more into the coddling, entitlement mentality that looms over that campus. Basically telling his players how great they are and how great the program is without accomplishing anything. They need a coach to tell it like it is, and say they are underachieving. Idk if the pressure from UT boosters is really as bad as they say it is, but this does not look like a hard nosed coach who is coming in to preach toughness and defense. Looks more like a guy who just wants to build "his brand" and be as likeable as possible

[Blake]

My theory is booster meddling. Too many cooks in the kitchen, "hey I donated X millions of dollars to your program so you guys better do it my way, treat this player well, and/or play this guy X minutes". So no coach is ever going to come and have complete control. Same way the Cowboys have a revolving door of head coaches but the meddling owner has too much say in who plays and who doesn't week to week

Yeah but that's anywhere except Bama.

[Mark Celibate]

Yeah but that's anywhere except Bama.

It's more of the amount of boosters/donors that Texas has to deal with. It's pretty well known that they phone in the head coach constantly, invite them to their yacht, Christmas parties, etc. Which other schools like Alabama do it too, but they only have 2-3 major donors that do this whereas Texas has like 20. Just too many distractions/BS that the coach has to deal with. I don't know if this is really that big of an issue in basketball, since they've not been a traditional power in the conference. Mainly talking about football. There's other issues too: i.e., every player in the Big XII treats their game against UT as their BCS National Championship since they were probably overlooked by them and pissed off. I think the LHN is a cancer to the program as well. Coaches are required to waste time BS'ing around on the LHN answering redundant questions when they should be focused on coaching instead. Hell, I remember Sarkisian sitting down and doing a play-by-play summary of one of their games with commentary on LHN. wtf? If I'm a coach playing Texas the next week, I'm taping that shit :lol

[Blake]

It's more of the amount of boosters/donors that Texas has to deal with. It's pretty well known that they phone in the head coach constantly, invite them to their yacht, Christmas parties, etc. Which other schools like Alabama do it too, but they only have 2-3 major donors that do this whereas Texas has like 20. Just too many distractions/BS that the coach has to deal with. I don't know if this is really that big of an issue in basketball, since they've not been a traditional power in the conference. Mainly talking about football. There's other issues too: i.e., every player in the Big XII treats their game against UT as their BCS National Championship since they were probably overlooked by them and pissed off. I think the LHN is a cancer to the program as well. Coaches are required to waste time BS'ing around on the LHN answering redundant questions when they should be focused on coaching instead. Hell, I remember Sarkisian sitting down and doing a play-by-play summary of one of their games with commentary on LHN. wtf? If I'm a coach playing Texas the next week, I'm taping that shit :lol

Yeah the I don't think anyone here thinks the LHN is a good thing. Nobody cares about watching UT women soccer play Rice much less seeing Ricky and Vince sit around talking about how they used to do it

But Beard? Why isn't Beard getting more out of this coveted talented group? Same question always asked of Barnes, same of Shaka. Same of Strong, same of Herman.

Something in the water besides boosters, imo.

[pgardn]

Yeah the I don't think anyone here thinks the LHN is a good thing. Nobody cares about watching UT women soccer play Rice much less seeing Ricky and Vince sit around talking about how they used to do it

But Beard? Why isn't Beard getting more out of this coveted talented group? Same question always asked of Barnes, same of Shaka. Same of Strong, same of Herman.

Something in the water besides boosters, imo.

Talented and coveted.
Its spare parts that dont work on offense.

UT will never get the best of the best like the blue bloods of basketball unless Beard does what he did at Tech.
And it may be that the best coach at Texas Tech stayed at Texas Tech.

The last coach that got real talent at UT was Mack Brown. Then he became Grandpa Brown after he got his series of big victories and played in two National Championships. If the kids that Texas just got in the Freshman class on oline dont produce in a year or two then its time to really wonder imo. We got kids that any of the top 5 schools would take on this Oline. By the end of this upcoming year at least one should be starting on what was a horrible Oline that has a year more of experience that Texas mods claim will be much improved. We will see.

The NIL has been a huge advantage for Texas and Texas ATM so far. It should get wilder as we move on unless they do something to change some rules with this and the transfer portal.