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Ignazzz
09-23-2022, 12:51 PM
Jazz went below tax line. Thats a reason

KingKev
09-23-2022, 01:03 PM
Jazz went below tax line. Thats a reason

No, they were just barely under it before the trade and had all of this salary/tax cap season to get under if need be.

koriwhat
09-23-2022, 05:02 PM
Of course you don’t live together. You’re a miserable cunt. No one wants to live with that.

You run your own biz? A side hustle no doubt. You got some anger art on Etsy?

Never heard a business owner say “I run my own biz”. Most businesses owners state what they own not run. I’m self employed. I don’t run a biz, I’m a business owner in _____ industry. Your wording is suspect.

Your claim doesn’t pass the sniff test. Tell us what you do. I want to know what specifically you do to “support yourself”.

Which is also a weird thing for an adult to say. An adult living at mom and dads with a job might say that. You know because you “support” yourself and don’t need mom or dad to front you money for a couple grams and a breakfast taco. A kid would say he supports himself because he’s proud to finally be employed with minimal outside help.

You’re like a fake adult. I’m not buying your bs.

Prove it.

Post a picture of that fake girlfriend from Canada too. You can blur her butterface. I want to see what level of fake girlfriend you’ll try to pass off as legit. No way you can land anything better than a 4 but I’m thinking with your ego issues you’ll try to pass off a solid 9.

Jesus Christ you're so damn unhinged and upset all because of an emoji a week ago. Your make believe stories mean nothing to me whatsoever. As well, I've stated numerous times over what I do for a living and you could ask all of your pussy eFriends what that is and they'll tell you.

You're such a fucking loser you stoop to make believe like the child that you are. :lmao:tu

Here's some more emoji's for your emotionally unstable ass to get upset over. :lmao:lol:cry:tu:lmao:lol:cry:tu

koriwhat
09-23-2022, 05:03 PM
Damn……..what he do to you? Lol.

I posted this emoji :lmao and the dumbfuck got his panties in a wad. :lol


He needs to be knocked down a peg or two. Dude runs up in this forum daily just shitting on every thread he enters. I’m fucking tired of reading his shit and tbh I can see right though his façade. He’s just a fake fucking loser.

Knock me down you big baddy. :lol

BacktoBasics
09-23-2022, 06:16 PM
Jesus Christ you're so damn unhinged and upset all because of an emoji a week ago. Your make believe stories mean nothing to me whatsoever. As well, I've stated numerous times over what I do for a living and you could ask all of your pussy eFriends what that is and they'll tell you.

You're such a fucking loser you stoop to make believe like the child that you are. :lmao:tu

Here's some more emoji's for your emotionally unstable ass to get upset over. :lmao:lol:cry:tu:lmao:lol:cry:tu

I don’t read every dumb fucking post you make. I have no idea what you do.

Apparently you’re too embarrassed to simply state it outright.

koriwhat
09-23-2022, 06:25 PM
Damn……..what he do to you? Lol.


I don’t read every dumb fucking post you make. I have no idea what you do.

Apparently you’re too embarrassed to simply state it outright.

The same old retort by all you pussies... Yeah bro I'm so embarrassed to be a business owner. :lmao

You going to get upset by that LMAO emoji too? Damn you're such an emotional baby.

tonight...you
09-23-2022, 06:57 PM
The same old retort by all you pussies... Yeah bro I'm so embarrassed to be a business owner. :lmao

You going to get upset by that LMAO emoji too? Damn you're such an emotional baby.
I guess I missed it and, as a business owner and freelancer myself, I'm curious:

What is your business? Without getting too personal...

BacktoBasics
09-23-2022, 08:07 PM
I guess I missed it and, as a business owner and freelancer myself, I'm curious:

What is your business? Without getting too personal...

He sells maga embossed buttplugs on Etsy. Not for sexual gratification of course. That’s against Christ. But as gape protection against the trans community.

heyheymymy
09-23-2022, 08:29 PM
koriwhat quit junkin up the thread you useless child

poopbox
09-23-2022, 08:39 PM
What is going on in this thread. I thought it was about nba free agency :lol

XDT76
09-23-2022, 09:26 PM
What is going on in this thread. I thought it was about nba free agency :lol

The same thing that happens to almost all the threads in ST nowadays.

John B
09-24-2022, 05:11 AM
Can’t wait for the season to start. People are getting too edgy :lmao

Anyways, why do I see this on social media a lot?

1.The Lakers get: Josh Richardson, Jacob Poeltl, Doug McDermott;
2.Spurs get: Russell Westbrook, a 2027 or 2029 first-round pick;

according to LJ. Ellis of the American media “Sports Illustrated”, Isn’t that our own Timvp?

This has got to be some stupid Lakers fake news. Jak alone should haul one or two FRP’s at the right time (trade deadline). A FRP for Josh maybe. I know McD is another story. I thought I read Timvp wrote something about the Spurs lowering their initial price tags. But to absorb 47 mil of cancer Russ must be at least a FRP unprotected, if they are taking McD. If I’m doing my math right, that’s at least 3 FRP’s, one unprotected, that the Lakers don’t have.

KingKev
09-24-2022, 05:22 AM
Can’t wait for the season to start. People are getting too edgy :lmao

Anyways, why do I see this on social media a lot?

1.The Lakers get: Josh Richardson, Jacob Poeltl, Doug McDermott;
2.Spurs get: Russell Westbrook, a 2027 or 2029 first-round pick;

according to LJ. Ellis of the American media “Sports Illustrated”, Isn’t that our own Timvp?

This has got to be some stupid Lakers fake news. Jak alone should haul one or two FRP’s at the right time (trade deadline). A FRP for Josh maybe. I know McD is another story. I thought I read Timvp wrote something about the Spurs lowering their initial price tags. But to absorb 47 mil of cancer Russ must be at least a FRP unprotected, if they are taking McD. If I’m doing my math right, that’s at least 3 FRP’s, one unprotected, that the Lakers don’t have.

There doesn’t seem to be a market for Jak or JRich. One may or may not develop. Spurs probably don’t do that trade but personally I’d do it for a 2027 unprotected FRP and an unprotected pick swap.

Lakers are going to ooen the season with their current roster and reassess the market in a few months I suspect.

John B
09-24-2022, 05:29 AM
There doesn’t seem to be a market for Jak or JRich. One may or may not develop. Spurs probably don’t do that trade but personally I’d do it for a 2027 unprotected FRP and an unprotected pick swap.

Lakers are going to ooen the season with their current roster and reassess the market in a few months I suspect.

Thanks. I can go back to sleep now :lol

tonight...you
09-24-2022, 01:01 PM
He sells maga embossed buttplugs on Etsy. Not for sexual gratification of course. That’s against Christ. But as gape protection against the trans community.
Okay. I seriously laughed.
Like snort-laughed.

Awesome.

Joseph Kony
09-24-2022, 01:05 PM
The same thing that happens to almost all the threads in ST nowadays.

really just threads calf tats posts in since he literally cannot comment in a thread without screeching like an incel

Joseph Kony
09-24-2022, 01:07 PM
Regarding Jak and Jrich - i'm fine with SA waiting it out on these guys. Spurs ended up flipping Young for a 1st when he barely played at the deadline to a team looking to make a playoff push. i wouldn't be surprised if something similar (with hopefully a better return) happens at the deadline this season.

CGD
09-24-2022, 03:18 PM
He sells maga embossed buttplugs on Etsy. Not for sexual gratification of course. That’s against Christ. But as gape protection against the trans community.

Lord, haven’t been on this forum regularly since the draft, and here i pop in for a sec and first thing I witness with this post is a murder.

Must be some beefing going on, lol. Never change SpursTalk!

koriwhat
09-24-2022, 05:41 PM
He sells maga embossed buttplugs on Etsy. Not for sexual gratification of course. That’s against Christ. But as gape protection against the trans community.

You have warped perception of who I am. Do you think I'm some sort of MAGA/Trump enthusiast and or against the Trans community? If so you're way off base with both assumptions.

You're just an emotional wreck who gets upset over simple emoji's which is odd in itself.

koriwhat
09-24-2022, 05:42 PM
koriwhat quit junkin up the thread you useless child

Not my fault B2B cries endlessly and perpetuates the nonsense. :tu

KingKev
09-26-2022, 06:59 AM
Suns and Crowder to part ways. He has 1yr left on his deal for ~10mm. Can’t see many teams giving up much if anything for him. Probably an SRP.

mo7888
09-26-2022, 08:22 AM
Suns and Crowder to part ways. He has 1yr left on his deal for ~10mm. Can’t see many teams giving up much if anything for him. Probably an SRP.

I believe Phoenix is trying to use him as salary ballast along with other assets to go after a significant piece. I don't think they are just trying to dump him..

KingKev
09-26-2022, 08:33 AM
I believe Phoenix is trying to use him as salary ballast along with other assets to go after a significant piece. I don't think they are just trying to dump him..

Yeah problem is they don’t have much to offer with him other than Saric. Maybe some form including Bridges or Cameron Johnson but I doubt it

mo7888
09-26-2022, 12:28 PM
Yeah problem is they don’t have much to offer with him other than Saric. Maybe some form including Bridges or Cameron Johnson but I doubt it

It'll probably have to be picks... I think they still have all their future picks they can use..How much late 1st's get them I just don't know...

TD 21
09-26-2022, 05:31 PM
To Heat: Crowder, Gay - get their much-needed four's while ridding themselves of albatross/superfluous player
To Suns: McDermott, Vincent - '23-'24 salary of former's contract could dissuade them, but they were interested in Bogdanovic, a superior version
To Spurs: Robinson, Heat '23 and '27 limited protected (5ish?) 1sts - self explanatory
To Jazz: Payne - reap savings for '23-'24 season

KingKev
09-26-2022, 05:46 PM
To Heat: Crowder, Gay - get their much-needed four's while ridding themselves of albatross/superfluous player
To Suns: McDermott, Vincent - '23-'24 salary of former's contract could dissuade them, but they were interested in Bogdanovic, a superior version
To Spurs: Robinson, Heat '23 and '27 limited protected (5ish?) 1sts - self explanatory
To Jazz: Payne - reap savings for '23-'24 season

Heat say no.

TD 21
09-26-2022, 06:55 PM
Heat say no.

Maybe.

Could takeout Vincent, Gay and Payne, but it has to be multiple 1sts with limited protection to both get the much needed starting four and off load Robinson's albatross.

KingKev
09-26-2022, 07:16 PM
Maybe.

Could takeout Vincent, Gay and Payne, but it has to be multiple 1sts with limited protection to both get the much needed starting four and off load Robinson's albatross.

I think they’ll let DR rot deep in the bench before giving up picks to move him. Maybe next year they do something like that to also dump Lowry. Heat are so close yet so far away from real contention.

Ariel
09-27-2022, 06:38 PM
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1574876646150119444

Oklahoma City is acquiring the $4.5M contract of Maurice Harkless into the $4.9M Disabled Player Exception that was granted from the Chet Holmgren injury. The DPE was granted last week. The Hawks now go under the luxury tax.
This could offer some insight into the current going rate for renting cap space: $4,564,980 - $781,759 (guaranteed portion of $1,836,096 contract) = $3,783,221 = 2nd rounder (didn't read the specifics, but if it's their own it should convey as a mid 2nd rounder)

objective
09-27-2022, 07:28 PM
Trying to figure out a Suns-Cavs-Spurs deal where Crowder to Cleveland and Richardson to Phoenix, but getting it legal is difficult. Cavs have a hard time making the salary work, Osman+Stephens isn't enough due to the tax.

Cleveland has 4 extra second round picks plus all of their own except one.

objective
09-27-2022, 08:43 PM
Trying to figure out a Suns-Cavs-Spurs deal where Crowder to Cleveland and Richardson to Phoenix, but getting it legal is difficult. Cavs have a hard time making the salary work, Osman+Stephens isn't enough due to the tax.

Cleveland has 4 extra second round picks plus all of their own except one.

Nevermind, forgot about Windler.

Osman (unguaranteed 23-24) & Windler and multiple 2nds to Spurs
Crowder to Cleveland
Richardson to Phoenix

Additional protected seconds spread around as necessary to satisfy any requirements that all teams touch or whatever

scott
09-27-2022, 08:50 PM
How did I miss that Chet is already out for the year? LOL, how predictable. Feel for the guy, but damn NOOOOOBODY could have seen that one coming.

TD 21
09-27-2022, 11:18 PM
Nevermind, forgot about Windler.

Osman (unguaranteed 23-24) & Windler and multiple 2nds to Spurs
Crowder to Cleveland
Richardson to Phoenix

Additional protected seconds spread around as necessary to satisfy any requirements that all teams touch or whatever

The Suns need a rotational four or at least someone who can play some four in return for Crowder.

tbdog
09-28-2022, 02:48 PM
The Suns need a rotational four or at least someone who can play some four in return for Crowder.

Suns need a backup point or someone who can actually dribble other than booker or cp3.

CGD
09-28-2022, 08:41 PM
Trying to figure out a Suns-Cavs-Spurs deal where Crowder to Cleveland and Richardson to Phoenix, but getting it legal is difficult. Cavs have a hard time making the salary work, Osman+Stephens isn't enough due to the tax.

Cleveland has 4 extra second round picks plus all of their own except one.

Just swap Crowder/Shatmat’s contract and a pick for Richardson. Flip Crowder again later in the season to Miami.

TD 21
09-28-2022, 09:43 PM
Suns need a backup point or someone who can actually dribble other than booker or cp3.

Yeah, the clock appeared to strike midnight on Payne last season, and they were supposedly in on Schroder.

Still, the four is the primary need.

tbdog
09-28-2022, 10:56 PM
Yeah, the clock appeared to strike midnight on Payne last season, and they were supposedly in on Schroder.

Still, the four is the primary need.

They have saric back. Johnson is now the full time starter. They'll run into issues against LeBron or Greek freak though. I don't think Crowder helps much with those match ups anyway. The way the mavs took cp3 and booker out, meant the Suns desperately need another play maker that can play in the playoffs.

TD 21
09-29-2022, 03:46 PM
They have saric back. Johnson is now the full time starter. They'll run into issues against LeBron or Greek freak though. I don't think Crowder helps much with those match ups anyway. The way the mavs took cp3 and booker out, meant the Suns desperately need another play maker that can play in the playoffs.

Saric and Johnson can't credibly defend the likes of James and Scumbag (Ayton and Biyombo are solid options to defend Antetokoumpo).

They could definitely use another play maker, but no matter who they could realistically get, they'd have to play a secondary role to Paul and Booker anyway.

spurraider21
09-29-2022, 08:04 PM
well at least somebody else is leveraging cap space

1575651979967139840

rankingtear
09-29-2022, 08:11 PM
well at least somebody else is leveraging cap space

1575651979967139840

Top 40 protected second round pick from ATL. Not enticing enough.

KingKev
09-29-2022, 08:31 PM
Top 40 protected second round pick from ATL. Not enticing enough.

A second round pick for 1 million in cap is fine. Did you look at the other pieces and understand this trade?

rankingtear
09-30-2022, 12:41 AM
A second round pick for 1 million in cap is fine. Did you look at the other pieces and understand this trade?
Still 10 mil on guys you don't like. That's Langford, 2 of KBD, Weis or Roby.

tbdog
09-30-2022, 07:08 AM
Longford is interesting. You must play him. He has a lot of potential as a defensive wing.

rankingtear
09-30-2022, 07:10 AM
^ Correction 20 million incoming for 4 players they don't like for a top 40 protected ATL pick. The second rounder we got for Bryn is much better tbh.

KingKev
09-30-2022, 08:19 AM
^ Correction 20 million incoming for 4 players they don't like for a top 40 protected ATL pick. The second rounder we got for Bryn is much better tbh.

The net is about 7mm incoming for the Rockets and Favours probably actually plays.

rankingtear
09-30-2022, 08:58 AM
The net is about 7mm incoming for the Rockets and Favours probably actually plays.
Good for them then. Probably would take us out of the Russ deal for a protected second and Derrick Favors. Why settle for garbage if you have a non zero chance of picks that gets you star players.

KingKev
10-01-2022, 08:36 AM
Good for them then. Probably would take us out of the Russ deal for a protected second and Derrick Favors. Why settle for garbage if you have a non zero chance of picks that gets you star players.

OKC also sent 6.5mm to Houston so they basically paid $1mm for an SRP.

rankingtear
10-01-2022, 08:48 AM
OKC also sent 6.5mm to Houston so they basically paid $1mm for an SRP.

Sure, it would cost us 8 mil in cap though and likely Roby. 10 mil if it is KBD since we would guarantee him. HOU is over the cap so it does not matter to them.

KingKev
10-01-2022, 09:26 AM
Sure, it would cost us 8 mil in cap though and likely Roby. 10 mil if it is KBD since we would guarantee him. HOU is over the cap so it does not matter to them.

I’m not arguing that we missed out on anything. I’m telling you the cost of the SRP was about a million.

rankingtear
10-01-2022, 09:32 AM
I’m not arguing that we missed out on anything. I’m telling you the cost of the SRP was about a million.

Ok.

mo7888
10-01-2022, 03:57 PM
Adams just agreed to a 2 year $25.2 million dollar extension

Woj

KingKev
10-01-2022, 04:01 PM
Adams just agreed to a 2 year $25.2 million dollar extension

Woj

Takes them out of the run ing for Jak next summer.

KingKev
10-16-2022, 09:30 AM
Wiggins gets 109mm/4yr.

Good deal for both sides.

R. DeMurre
10-16-2022, 02:42 PM
It's gonna be a dramatic year, seeing what happens with Draymond. I think Golden State might finally be at the point where they think they have enough pieces to replace him next year. Lacob said this summer he was ok with a $400 mil payroll, but they're already far beyond that with the new Poole and Wiggins deals. Draymond has one of the most complicated legacies of all modern NBA stars-- he fit(s) that team perfectly, and was a valuable part of 4 championships, but is also responsible for ruining what would've arguably been the best NBA season ever. Add to that the fact that his impact slipped last year while Wiggins became the defensive star of the finals, and it makes for an interesting decision for the Warriors to have to face.

TD 21
10-16-2022, 03:45 PM
It's gonna be a dramatic year, seeing what happens with Draymond. I think Golden State might finally be at the point where they think they have enough pieces to replace him next year. Lacob said this summer he was ok with a $400 mil payroll, but they're already far beyond that with the new Poole and Wiggins deals. Draymond has one of the most complicated legacies of all modern NBA stars-- he fit(s) that team perfectly, and was a valuable part of 4 championships, but is also responsible for ruining what would've arguably been the best NBA season ever. Add to that the fact that his impact slipped last year while Wiggins became the defensive star of the finals, and it makes for an interesting decision for the Warriors to have to face.

People always say this as if it would have been a fait accompli otherwise, while ignoring that the Cavaliers stumbled into a rotation that gave them a fighting chance defensively and James authored arguably the greatest three game stretch in history, with Irving not too far behind.

A great defensive big will always be more valuable on that side of the ball than a great (and Wiggins isn't even that) defensive perimeter player.

exstatic
10-16-2022, 04:11 PM
People always say this as if it would have been a fait accompli otherwise, while ignoring that the Cavaliers stumbled into a rotation that gave them a fighting chance defensively and James authored arguably the greatest three game stretch in history, with Irving not too far behind.

A great defensive big will always be more valuable on that side of the ball than a great (and Wiggins isn't even that) defensive perimeter player.

Lacob is already talking with his checkbook, paying Poole and Wiggins. I think if Raymond has another down year, the writing will be on the wall, and when he picks up his option next summer, they’ll trade him into cap room. He’ll be 34 at that point, with two declining years in a row.

TD 21
10-16-2022, 04:38 PM
Lacob is already talking with his checkbook, paying Poole and Wiggins. I think if Raymond has another down year, the writing will be on the wall, and when he picks up his option next summer, they’ll trade him into cap room. He’ll be 34 at that point, with two declining years in a row.

I was more so making a general statement than advocating for giving him a big, long-term extension.

He showed signs of significant slippage last season and despite his basketball IQ and ball skills (dribble, pass, not shoot obviously), undersized hustle oriented bigs generally don't age gracefully.

KingKev
10-16-2022, 04:53 PM
Dray is getting 15-20mm a year tops and that is if he balls out. He is an MLE guy otherwise. Wiseman and Looney can push him out.

TD 21
10-16-2022, 05:02 PM
Dray is getting 15-20mm a year tops and that is if he balls out. He is an MLE guy otherwise. Wiseman and Looney can push him out.

They wouldn't disrespect him by offering that relatively low and Wiseman and Looney can't play the four.

A combination of aging, finances and Kuminga and to a lesser extent Baldwin Jr., is what'll push him out if/when.

KingKev
10-16-2022, 08:41 PM
They wouldn't disrespect him by offering that relatively low and Wiseman and Looney can't play the four.

A combination of aging, finances and Kuminga and to a lesser extent Baldwin Jr., is what'll push him out if/when.

Yeah I just think they can replace Dray by committee if he doesn’t take a handsome paycut. Draymond was the worst player on the court for long stretches of last season at least his lil altercation-with Poole humbled him but humility isn’t going to bring back his game. He is 2 years away from being Udonis Haslem.

rankingtear
10-16-2022, 08:56 PM
Dray played 36 min per game in the finals nobody is close to replacing him.

KingKev
10-17-2022, 09:07 AM
Dray played 36 min per game in the finals nobody is close to replacing him.

Another year of developing Wiseman, Kuminga and to a much lesser extent PBJ and I think the Warriors will have to make a tough decision if he isn’t going to take a paycut. He’s really going to have to earn another big contract.

BG_Spurs_Fan
10-17-2022, 09:19 AM
Dray is getting 15-20mm a year tops and that is if he balls out. He is an MLE guy otherwise. Wiseman and Looney can push him out.

Nah. Wiseman and Looney can be 6 fouls a game kind of bigs, but Draymond is literally allowed to get away with twice as many fouls every game and at least one tech per game to boot. This allows him to guard players better than anyone else could under ordinary officiating.

mo7888
10-17-2022, 09:48 AM
KPJ just signed for $82M with Houston over 4 years...only the first year is guaranteed.

mo7888
10-17-2022, 10:26 AM
Nassir Little extends for 4 years and $28M

R. DeMurre
10-17-2022, 11:03 AM
A great defensive big will always be more valuable on that side of the ball than a great (and Wiggins isn't even that) defensive perimeter player.

I don't think you can say this definitively in the modern NBA. Specific situations and match ups matter too much for it to be the case. I can certainly envision scenarios where a great defender like a prime Kawhi or other Scottie Pippin type guy could be more important than an Embiid or a Gobert. Look at the play in game last year... who was more effective defensively-- Herb Jones or Poeltl? It was Herb by a mile.

KingKev
10-17-2022, 02:42 PM
KPJ just signed for $82M with Houston over 4 years...only the first year is guaranteed.

I really like how they structured that deal. Very fair for both sides.

RC_Drunkford
10-17-2022, 02:50 PM
Wieskamp waived

mo7888
10-17-2022, 03:08 PM
I really like how they structured that deal. Very fair for both sides.

Agreed

mo7888
10-17-2022, 03:08 PM
Wieskamp waived

That was the right move I believe

TD 21
10-17-2022, 05:08 PM
I don't think you can say this definitively in the modern NBA. Specific situations and match ups matter too much for it to be the case. I can certainly envision scenarios where a great defender like a prime Kawhi or other Scottie Pippin type guy could be more important than an Embiid or a Gobert. Look at the play in game last year... who was more effective defensively-- Herb Jones or Poeltl? It was Herb by a mile.

I'm talking about in general, not in specific instances. Of course, in small sample sizes virtually anything is liable to happen.

Even the hipster, groupthink stat geeks nerds, who despise bigs, have admitted that they predictably still have greater defensive impact.

exstatic
10-17-2022, 05:27 PM
Wieskamp waived

I guess Primo got his license.

Mr. Body
10-17-2022, 07:08 PM
James Bouknight arrested for DUI, apprently the FOURTH reckless/DUI charge in the last twelve months.

Hornets getting to be the new Jailblazers.

mo7888
10-17-2022, 07:11 PM
D Hunter signs 4 years for $95M

KingKev
10-17-2022, 09:05 PM
D Hunter signs 4 years for $95M

Yikes. Keldon’s deal is going to look like insane value in 2years.

Ice009
10-17-2022, 09:47 PM
Darn, I wonder if Keldon is going to be a bit upset with his deal when looking at all these other deals.

Chinook
10-17-2022, 10:13 PM
Johnson arguably has a top-five future in his class now, and he's barely in the top-10 extensions. It's amazing what agreeing to a deal early rather than waiting until the exact deadline every time can do.

R. DeMurre
10-18-2022, 10:53 PM
Draymond has one of the most complicated legacies of all modern NBA stars-- he fit(s) that team perfectly, and was a valuable part of 4 championships, but is also responsible for ruining what would've arguably been the best NBA season ever. Add to that the fact that his impact slipped last year while Wiggins became the defensive star of the finals, and it makes for an interesting decision for the Warriors to have to face.


People always say this as if it would have been a fait accompli otherwise, while ignoring that the Cavaliers stumbled into a rotation that gave them a fighting chance defensively and James authored arguably the greatest three game stretch in history, with Irving not too far behind.


Green himself says it, so it's not like it's some kind of fringe conspiracy theory (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-says-his-flagrant-foul-on-lebron-james-cost-warriors-2016-title-explains-why-hed-do-it-again/):

Green revisited the play recently on the "Checc'n In" podcast (https://www.caffeine.tv/Checc-N-In/video/18c20e00-3467-11ed-8080-80014f711997) (h/t NBC Sports Bay Area (https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/draymond-takes-warriors-2016-nba-finals-loss-chin-due-suspension)) and took full responsibility for his actions. He even went as far as to agree with many basketball fans around the globe in saying that had he not been suspended, the Warriors would have won the title that season. Somewhat surprisingly, however, Green also said that if he had to do it over again, he wouldn't change his reaction.

"I take that on the chin. I cost us a championship. I'm fine with that. I can take that on the chin. No problem. I own up to my mistakes," Green said. "Would I do it again? One thousand percent. If somebody try to step over me, I'm going to hit them."


Green then explained why his regrets stem from incidents in previous games rather than the altercation with James.
"What I wouldn't do again is, I wouldn't allow myself to be in the position to where someone can make that decision and cost me," Green said. "And so guess what? If I get to that point again and you step over me, I'm going to try to hit you again. But I wouldn't be in the same position with flagrant amount of points, with the amount of techs to where I leave that decision in someone else's hands."

K...
10-19-2022, 11:03 AM
James Bouknight arrested for DUI, apprently the FOURTH reckless/DUI charge in the last twelve months.

Hornets getting to be the new Jailblazers.

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There's Dui and then there's rammed the cops car and blew .14 DUI.

KingKev
10-19-2022, 11:18 AM
Lol lightweight. Coach Pop and RC need to coach him up.

Seventyniner
10-19-2022, 11:23 AM
1582743700131938304

There's Dui and then there's rammed the cops car and blew .14 DUI.

Damn. They might throw the Bouk at him.

CGD
10-19-2022, 12:10 PM
Yikes. Keldon’s deal is going to look like insane value in 2years.

It’s gotten to the point that if I’m Kelton, I’m starting to wonder about my representation.

TD 21
10-19-2022, 03:38 PM
Green himself says it, so it's not like it's some kind of fringe conspiracy theory (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-says-his-flagrant-foul-on-lebron-james-cost-warriors-2016-title-explains-why-hed-do-it-again/):

:lmao Of course he's going to feel that way. He's biased and exceedingly arrogant on top of that.

Objectively speaking, obviously his getting suspended helped the Cavaliers cause, but the Warriors were not locks either way.