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lmbebo
07-01-2022, 09:59 AM
Interesting we are seeing all these deals, yet Spurs with the most cap room haven't done anything as of yet... :corn:

KingKev
07-01-2022, 10:00 AM
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The Orlando Magic have agreed to terms on a 2-year deal with Bol Bol, a league source told the @orlandosports (https://twitter.com/orlandosports/).​

How many fking bigs do the Magic need? That franchise makes Brian Wright look like Elon Musk.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 10:01 AM
Interesting we are seeing all these deals, yet Spurs with the most cap room haven't done anything as of yet... :corn:

This was expected...

mo7888
07-01-2022, 10:02 AM
How many fking bigs do the Magic need? That franchise makes Brian Wright look like Elon Musk.

I'm assuming they are going to move Isaacs..

lmbebo
07-01-2022, 10:02 AM
This was expected...

Yeah. Anticipating that we are dumping ground in a bigger unannounced deal to happen.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 10:02 AM
Yeah. Anticipating that we are dumping ground in a bigger unannounced deal to happen.

Yup

John B
07-01-2022, 10:06 AM
Interesting we are seeing all these deals, yet Spurs with the most cap room haven't done anything as of yet... :corn:

Spurs are like the groom waiting for his bride at the altar, but already with his buddy Tom on the way to Vegas

KingKev
07-01-2022, 10:09 AM
I'm assuming they are going to move Isaacs..

Tough contract to move. Hasn’t played since the bubble, coming off multiple surgeries with skme
off court drama (which probably isn’t material). Not sure many teams are going to give up much for that. i’d think Magic are better off giving him a chance to show what he can do. They seem pretty invested to me versus selling low.

Also Magic aren’t the smartest franchise.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 10:17 AM
Tough contract to move. Hasn’t played since the bubble, coming off multiple surgeries with skme
off court drama (which probably isn’t material). Not sure many teams are going to give up much for that. i’d think Magic are better off giving him a chance to show what he can do. They seem pretty invested to me versus selling low.

Also Magic aren’t the smartest franchise.

I'm not sure they get positive value back...I think it's more of a neutral move... there's risk in taking him on but a team that can afford some risk might do it...there's a real upside possibility if he's healthy...and a real downside if he's not...Indy should go after him..

I thought he might be a risk worth taking if we kept DJ but, now I'd rather try and use space on getting picks back...I might would revisit it if we strike out on taking bad contracts...although I think the odds are pretty high that we end up facilitating deals for picks here shortly..

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 10:22 AM
We get no one again as per usual. Is there a scrub like Doug mcbuckets we can throw our cap space at ?

this is exactly what we should be doing. Don't add anybody. We can't afford to be better than Houston or OKC.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 10:22 AM
Interesting we are seeing all these deals, yet Spurs with the most cap room haven't done anything as of yet... :corn:
we're waiting for the big trades and sign and trades so we can help w/ salary imo. i dont think spurs are trying to sign players with cap space right now

lmbebo
07-01-2022, 10:37 AM
Twitter alive with a 2 min segment from Windhorst about Royce Oneal to Nets trade.. Insinuating a complete rebuild in Utah with dumping of Gobert/Mitchell?

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 10:41 AM
If Utah is trading Mitchell the Spurs messed up by trading DJ. I assume Jazz will keep one of them though, so they should end up with a better record than we do

cd98
07-01-2022, 10:42 AM
Twitter alive with a 2 min segment from Windhorst about Royce Oneal to Nets trade.. Insinuating a complete rebuild in Utah with dumping of Gobert/Mitchell?


How are they going to tank when they have the all-star game there next season? My guess is that they may trade Gobert if the assets meet what they want, but no way they are trading Mitchell outside of a trade demand.

kjhip1
07-01-2022, 10:44 AM
Twitter alive with a 2 min segment from Windhorst about Royce Oneal to Nets trade.. Insinuating a complete rebuild in Utah with dumping of Gobert/Mitchell?

Jesus, what is going on in the NBA!? tank-a-palooza this year fosho

BillMc
07-01-2022, 10:47 AM
Any chance the Spurs are:

1. Trying to get in the Durant sweepstakes. (We now have a lot picks to trade).
2. Willing to absorb a massive contract like Westbrooks in return for assets?
3. Going after Ayton.

Any of those real possibilities?

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 10:50 AM
Any chance the Spurs are:

1. Trying to get in the Durant sweepstakes. (We now have a lot picks to trade).
2. Willing to absorb a massive contract like Westbrooks in return for assets?
3. Going after Ayton.

Any of those real possibilities?

2. maybe. We will definitely be the dumping ground for any contracts that are just in the trades to make the money work. All those players nobody wants will get re-routed to the Spurs. I hope we can get 2 firsts out of it

Mugen
07-01-2022, 10:50 AM
Any chance the Spurs are:

1. Trying to get in the Durant sweepstakes. (We now have a lot picks to trade).
2. Willing to absorb a massive contract like Westbrooks in return for assets?
3. Going after Ayton.

Any of those real possibilities?

I'd say #2 is the only realistic possibility.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 10:51 AM
Any chance the Spurs are:

1. Trying to get in the Durant sweepstakes. (We now have a lot picks to trade).
2. Willing to absorb a massive contract like Westbrooks in return for assets?
3. Going after Ayton.

Any of those real possibilities?
no
yes
no

Dex
07-01-2022, 10:52 AM
Any chance the Spurs are:

1. Trying to get in the Durant sweepstakes. (We now have a lot picks to trade).
2. Willing to absorb a massive contract like Westbrooks in return for assets?
3. Going after Ayton.

Any of those real possibilities?

I think the most likely thing is we are going to be a salary dumping ground for teams trying to pursue Durant or Kyrie.

1. The fact that Durant names Phoenix and Miami as his preferred destinations means he wants to win now...that ain't us.

2. I've already said that if Westbrook comes to the Spurs, I will burn the Riverwalk to the ground.

3. The Ayton ship has sailed. It may have made sense if we had Murray, Primo and Sachon develop, and we have our poor man's Timmy...but yeah, it just doesn't make sense anymore.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 10:59 AM
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duncan2150
07-01-2022, 11:01 AM
Nobody think they could go after Sexton ?

lmbebo
07-01-2022, 11:10 AM
Nobody think they could go after Sexton ?

I think I heard Mavs were interested in him. One other team as well (can't remember)

spurs10
07-01-2022, 11:12 AM
I think the most likely thing is we are going to be a salary dumping ground for teams trying to pursue Durant or Kyrie.

1. The fact that Durant names Phoenix and Miami as his preferred destinations means he wants to win now...that ain't us.

2. I've already said that if Westbrook comes to the Spurs, I will burn the Riverwalk to the ground.

3. The Ayton ship has sailed. It may have made sense if we had Murray, Primo and Sachon develop, and we have our poor man's Timmy...but yeah, it just doesn't make sense anymore.
Sounds about right. Our moves of trading our only All Star and basically tanking this season for next year's lottery are understandble for the big picture. I wonder what attendance will be like for games. I had already dropped my season tickets, but it wasn't because of our record. I enjoyed last season, but thought I could spend a few grand elsewhere in my life. What I want to know about is cap space. Is there a degree of 'use it or lose it' involved? In which case I get us being a salary dump playground.

timvp
07-01-2022, 11:13 AM
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Five-year max with a player option? Yeah, no way to compete with that.

CGD
07-01-2022, 11:13 AM
Nobody think they could go after Sexton ?

I think they might have, but Everything has been thrown in the air with Durant. Spurs need to be smart and keep max flexibility.

KingKev
07-01-2022, 11:16 AM
Phoenix probably front runners for KD.

ace3g
07-01-2022, 11:16 AM
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Free agent C Jusuf Nurkic has agreed on a new four-year, $70 million deal to stay with the Portland Trail Blazers, @KlutchSports (https://twitter.com/KlutchSports/) CEO Rich Paul tells ESPN.

spurs10
07-01-2022, 11:17 AM
Five-year max with a player option? Yeah, no way to compete with that. Do we have to use most of our cap space one way or the other? Not sure how that works.

BacktoBasics
07-01-2022, 11:19 AM
I was thinking Duncan Robinson dump but then looked at that contract. Not a chance.

BackHome
07-01-2022, 11:20 AM
I think the most likely thing is we are going to be a salary dumping ground for teams trying to pursue Durant or Kyrie.

1. The fact that Durant names Phoenix and Miami as his preferred destinations means he wants to win now...that ain't us.

2. I've already said that if Westbrook comes to the Spurs, I will burn the Riverwalk to the ground.

3. The Ayton ship has sailed. It may have made sense if we had Murray, Primo and Sachon develop, and we have our poor man's Timmy...but yeah, it just doesn't make sense anymore.

Dex if you see a tweet that we made that trade don’t start burning the river walk until you had your coffee. Lol

Dex
07-01-2022, 11:23 AM
Dex if you see a tweet that we made that trade don’t start burning the river walk until you had your coffee. Lol

It's okay, the Riverwalk won't burn anyways. Fortunately, San Antonio isn't Cleveland :lol

John B
07-01-2022, 11:28 AM
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One prospect down

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 11:28 AM
Klutch clients are winning:) Good for them…….. I’m glad we approach stuff totally different. We don’t stop people from getting their money but we won’t pay dumb contracts!

KingKev
07-01-2022, 11:28 AM
It's okay, the Riverwalk won't burn anyways. Fortunately, San Antonio isn't Cleveland :lol

That water looks flammable to me!!

John B
07-01-2022, 11:31 AM
I think they might have, but Everything has been thrown in the air with Durant. Spurs need to be smart and keep max flexibility.

This freaking KD deal is messing with our chance on Jalen Smith tbh. Can’t they prioritize on Jalen as he could be a part of the rebuild?

timvp
07-01-2022, 11:33 AM
Do we have to use most of our cap space one way or the other? Not sure how that works.

No, teams don't have to use all of their cap space. There is a salary floor but if teams don't reach it, the only thing that happens is that their exisitng players get a raise. It happened to OKC recently.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 11:34 AM
Klutch clients are winning:) Good for them…….. I’m glad we approach stuff totally different. We don’t stop people from getting their money but we won’t pay dumb contracts!
50 mills

John B
07-01-2022, 11:34 AM
That water looks flammable to me!!

:lol:lol I always think Capt Jack Sparrow would just jump out from one of those dark corners

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 11:35 AM
This freaking KD deal is messing with our chance on Jalen Smith tbh. Can’t they prioritize on Jalen as he could be a part of the rebuild?

We good………we’re in the drivers seat homie! He who has the gold dictates the rules:)

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 11:35 AM
Let the game come to you……

Ice009
07-01-2022, 11:36 AM
No, teams don't have to use all of their cap space. There is a salary floor but if teams don't reach it, the only thing that happens is that their exisitng players get a raise. It happened to OKC recently.

Wow, that sounds pretty cool for the current players on the team. Have many teams ever done that?

baseline bum
07-01-2022, 11:36 AM
2. I've already said that if Westbrook comes to the Spurs, I will burn the Riverwalk to the ground.


Pretty obvious they'd buy the pos out if they traded for him. Don't need a cancer like that around the young guys.

baseline bum
07-01-2022, 11:38 AM
Do we have to use most of our cap space one way or the other? Not sure how that works.

If the Spurs don't hit the salary floor I think all the players get raises to hit it.

John B
07-01-2022, 11:38 AM
No, teams don't have to use all of their cap space. There is a salary floor but if teams don't reach it, the only thing that happens is that their exisitng players get a raise. It happened to OKC recently.

I could just see Cacook and Woodard shooting pools waiting for a raise

buttsR4rebounding
07-01-2022, 11:40 AM
Do we have to use most of our cap space one way or the other? Not sure how that works.

The minimum team salary this year is just over $111 million. I believe if a team doesn’t reach it all the players get proportionately more money so that the team pays out the minimum.

spurs10
07-01-2022, 11:42 AM
If the Spurs don't hit the salary floor I think all the players get raises to hit it. :tu

mo7888
07-01-2022, 11:43 AM
I could just see Cacook and Woodard shooting pools waiting for a raise

If we have roster spots after we finish with the expending deals I'd keep those to and JW...heck I'd even keep Stewart if we had a spot...easy to cut loose during the season if you wanna look at a Gleague prospect too..

ace3g
07-01-2022, 11:44 AM
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Free agent Otto Porter Jr. — vital member of Golden State Warriors championship team — reached an agreement with the Toronto Raptors on a two-year deal with a player option, league sources tell @YahooSports (https://twitter.com/YahooSports/).

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Otto Porter Jr. NBA free agency 2022: Forward, Toronto Raptors agree to 2-year deal (https://t.co/ck81fptKZh)sports.yahoo.com

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07-01-2022, 11:45 AM
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Free agent F/C Drew Eubanks is returning to the Portland Trail Blazers on a one-year deal, his agent James Dunleavy of @excelbasketball (https://twitter.com/excelbasketball/) tells ESPN.

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ace3g
07-01-2022, 11:49 AM
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Free agent center Robin Lopez has agreed to a one-year deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN.

JPB
07-01-2022, 11:50 AM
From the gold standard to the bottom of the league... We will never really measure how much Nephew fucked up this franchise. Some will tell this is the destiny of any NBA team but spurs really had the possibilty to survive the big 3 as far as being relevant is concerned....

Now, we tanking... Let's see how fun it is to get eaten every night but enjoy that baby step Sochan or Primo made in that 30 blowout loss, so 3 years from now (maybe) spurs can be relevant again...

ace3g
07-01-2022, 11:52 AM
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https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png Danilo Gallinari is headed to Boston on a 2yr, $13M. Year 2 is a player option, per sources https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f1ee-1f1f9.png Danilo Gallinari ha scelto Boston: biennale da $13M con opzione del giocatore sul secondo anno. Tra poco i dettagli su @Gazzetta_it (https://twitter.com/Gazzetta_it)



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John B
07-01-2022, 11:56 AM
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Free agent F/C Drew Eubanks is returning to the Portland Trail Blazers on a one-year deal, his agent James Dunleavy of @excelbasketball (https://twitter.com/excelbasketball/) tells ESPN.

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Alright Ewwbanks! Damn if Drew could get a gig, people here doubted Lonnie :jack

John B
07-01-2022, 12:08 PM
From the gold standard to the bottom of the league... We will never really measure how much Nephew fucked up this franchise. Some will tell this is the destiny of any NBA team but spurs really had the possibilty to survive the big 3 as far as being relevant is concerned....

Now, we tanking... Let's see how fun it is to get eaten every night but enjoy that baby step Sochan or Primo made in that 30 blowout loss, so 3 years from now (maybe) spurs can be relevant again...

That 3 years would’ve been now if PATFO didn’t try to salvage that failed marriage with a good face. Damn, Dubs lost Klay and KD, injuries to Curry and now a champ plus they have young future squad, albeit they’re bleeding luxury tax. But that’s beside the point :lol. Spurs could’ve unloaded Demar, LMA, Gay and Mills then and got lottery picks. Just finally it seems PATFO has waken up.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 12:11 PM
Atlanta is trading Kevin Huerter to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Mo Harkless and a future first round pick, sources tell EPSN.

Woj

Dverde
07-01-2022, 12:14 PM
It feels like Portland and Philly have more money than everyone else. How the hell Portland have the salary room to still sign Gary Payton II?

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 12:16 PM
From the gold standard to the bottom of the league... We will never really measure how much Nephew fucked up this franchise. Some will tell this is the destiny of any NBA team but spurs really had the possibilty to survive the big 3 as far as being relevant is concerned....

Now, we tanking... Let's see how fun it is to get eaten every night but enjoy that baby step Sochan or Primo made in that 30 blowout loss, so 3 years from now (maybe) spurs can be relevant again...

Put down the pipe please!

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 12:19 PM
Atlanta : kd. Phoenix: Collins Brooklyn: ayton ………. SA: Ben. The main pieces

mo7888
07-01-2022, 12:19 PM
Atlanta : kd. Phoenix: Collins Brooklyn: ayton ………. SA: Ben. The main pieces

Suggestion or rumor?

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 12:26 PM
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spurraider21
07-01-2022, 12:27 PM
there's a pretty reasonable chance that pick never conveys tbh with how the kings are building :lol

mo7888
07-01-2022, 12:37 PM
The Indiana Pacers are trading guard Malcolm Brogdon to the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 12:37 PM
Brogdon to the Celtics

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 12:37 PM
That prolly means White got traded to the Pacers.

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 12:38 PM
Suggestion or rumor?

Just sounds logical

Texas_Ranger
07-01-2022, 12:39 PM
The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick

lol got Brogdon for nothing

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 12:39 PM
The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick

lol got Brogdon for nothing

At least White doesn't have to rot in Indy.

Mugen
07-01-2022, 12:40 PM
Just sounds logical

In what universe does that sound logical? :lol

mo7888
07-01-2022, 12:40 PM
Just sounds logical

I don't think us taking on Ben Simmons is logical if we're wobbling for Wembanyama...but I hear ya...

mo7888
07-01-2022, 12:41 PM
The Indiana Pacers are trading guard Malcolm Brogdon to the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

timvp
07-01-2022, 12:43 PM
So after all that whining from Spurs fans that the Spurs didn't draft Brogdon, the Spurs got about ten times as much for Murray in their trade.

John B
07-01-2022, 12:47 PM
Suggestion or rumor?

:hungry:

Ariel
07-01-2022, 12:48 PM
So after all that whining from Spurs fans that the Spurs didn't draft Brogdon, the Spurs got about ten times as much for Murray in their trade.
Not a time to rejoice, when the Hawks may have gotten a better pick from Huerter than any of the 3 (+swap) we got for Dejounte.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 12:50 PM
nesmith has underwhelmed... he was a candidate for us at that spot in 2021

Ariel
07-01-2022, 12:51 PM
It's clear more than ever than for the Dejounte deal not to end up a r*pe, the Hawks need to suck 2 years from now. The Charlotte pick may convey 2 or 3 years from now, if at all (if Miles Bridges doesn't re-sign).

-21-
07-01-2022, 12:54 PM
Not a time to rejoice, when the Hawks may have gotten a better pick from Huerter than any of the 3 (+swap) we got for Dejounte.

i dont see the kings getting out of the bottom 10 teams in the next 3 years. doubt those picks will convey.

Dverde
07-01-2022, 01:03 PM
It's clear more than ever than for the Dejounte deal not to end up a r*pe, the Hawks need to suck 2 years from now. The Charlotte pick may convey 2 or 3 years from now, if at all (if Miles Bridges doesn't re-sign).

Miles Bridges might be going to prison. He chocked someone until they passed out.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 01:04 PM
Not a time to rejoice, when the Hawks may have gotten a better pick from Huerter than any of the 3 (+swap) we got for Dejounte.

How so with the protections that are on them? I mean it's not impossible but it's unlikely...

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 01:05 PM
A lot can happen in 3-5 years; we’re just playing the law of averages. We’ll be fine. BTW, do draft well anyway no matter the pick? Lol

Trill Clinton
07-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Miles Bridges news makes that Charlotte pick look better and better. Sending prayers of healing to the victim and their child.

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 01:09 PM
Miles Bridges news makes that Charlotte pick look better and better. Sending prayers of healing to the victim and their child.

We need them to make the playoffs to get that pick tbh.

BacktoBasics
07-01-2022, 01:09 PM
Miles Bridges news makes that Charlotte pick look better and better. Sending prayers of healing to the victim and their child.

No it doesn’t. Those picks won’t convey. They’ll eventually be 2 second rounders.

timvp
07-01-2022, 01:12 PM
Not a time to rejoice, when the Hawks may have gotten a better pick from Huerter than any of the 3 (+swap) we got for Dejounte.

The lottery protected pick from the Kings?

Trill Clinton
07-01-2022, 01:12 PM
We need them to make the playoffs to get that pick tbh.


No it doesn’t. Those picks won’t convey. They’ll eventually be 2 second rounders.

Oh damn I thought it was unprotected

Ariel
07-01-2022, 01:14 PM
No it doesn’t. Those picks won’t convey. They’ll eventually be 2 second rounders.
Of course. It's not that difficult to figure out. Miles Bridges might have taken our 1st rounder to prison with him.

Leetonidas
07-01-2022, 01:15 PM
Not a time to rejoice, when the Hawks may have gotten a better pick from Huerter than any of the 3 (+swap) we got for Dejounte.

It's top 10 and top 12 protected then converts to two seconds. Definitely not better at all

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 01:18 PM
It's top 10 and top 12 protected then converts to two seconds. Definitely not better at all

Kings should be in the play-in next year so it prolly does become a lottery pick. Can't say the same about any of the ATL picks (though we'll have to see).

Ariel
07-01-2022, 01:19 PM
The lottery protected pick from the Kings?
https://www.nbamaniacs.com/noticias/kevin-huerter-llega-a-kings-por-justin-holiday-mo-harkless-y-una-primera-ronda/
ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports the first-round pick headed to Atlanta is lottery-protected in 2024, top-12 in 2025 and top-10 in 2026.
I'd say that pick should get a mid first rounder in 2025, maybe even sooner. The Miles Bridges issue just crapped on our Charlotte pick, and if Atlanta picks in the 20-30 range in the 2025-2027 period, that one pick is better value than anything we have. Not saying that it's better value NOW, but saying the entire Dejounte deal is entirely contingent on the Hawks sucking a$$ 3-5 years from now, otherwise we'd be much better off with 2 mid firsts now... think about it: would you have traded Dejounte to Charlotte for 13&15? We might be getting less than that... let's just hope Atlanta blows up by then.

Ariel
07-01-2022, 01:22 PM
It's top 10 and top 12 protected then converts to two seconds. Definitely not better at all
It's THE KINGS. They won't be a top team, but they're motivated enough that they'll put enough of a fight to make it out of that range. That pick will turn into a mid first rounder by 2024 or 2025 at the latest. Charlotte's ship is going down if they lose Miles Bridges. I'll take that pick over Charlotte's in a heartbeat

KingKev
07-01-2022, 01:25 PM
Miles Bridges news makes that Charlotte pick look better and better. Sending prayers of healing to the victim and their child.

How? Did you read the protections?

Leetonidas
07-01-2022, 01:27 PM
It's THE KINGS. They won't be a top team, but they're motivated enough that they'll put enough of a fight to make it out of that range. That pick will turn into a mid first rounder by 2024 or 2025 at the latest. Charlotte's ship is going down if they lose Miles Bridges. I'll take that pick over Charlotte's in a heartbeat

:lol you can't predict the future dude. The Kings have two all-star caliber players plus Barnes, plus their 4th pick, plus their FA additions and a new coach. You're so quick to act like you know what's going to happen when you dont know shit. And Miles Bridges is a loss for Charlotte but jesus youre acting like he's prime LeBron and the difference between a top seed and missing the playoffs.

some of y'all need to chill the fuck out. there's a reason every single analyst agrees that we got a great haul for DJ and the rest of you homers think we could have gotten more

JPB
07-01-2022, 01:31 PM
Miles Bridges news makes that Charlotte pick look better and better. Sending prayers of healing to the victim and their child.

Prayers to who? The same allmighty god that let that happen in the first place?

Ariel
07-01-2022, 01:32 PM
:lol you can't predict the future dude. The Kings have two all-star caliber players plus Barnes, plus their 4th pick, plus their FA additions and a new coach. You're so quick to act like you know what's going to happen when you dont know shit. And Miles Bridges is a loss for Charlotte but jesus youre acting like he's prime LeBron and the difference between a top seed and missing the playoffs.

some of y'all need to chill the fuck out. there's a reason every single analyst agrees that we got a great haul for DJ and the rest of you homers think we could have gotten more
You need to read and comprehend before you type. It's precisely because WE CAN'T READ THE FUTURE (YOU NOR I) that I said the Dejounte deal IS CONTINGENT ON ATLANTA SUCKING A$$ 3 years from now. If they don't, it's a HORRIBLE deal for us. I DON'T KNOW what's going to happen, which is PRECISELY why I said what I said.

John B
07-01-2022, 01:35 PM
John Wall to the Clippers?? two-year $13.2m deal, getting bought-out and making more from what he lost on the buyout. That's a businessman :lol

Russ
07-01-2022, 01:36 PM
The lottery protected pick from the Kings?

Looks like the Hawks got more for Huerter than the Spurs got for Lonnie (who went one pick ahead of Huerter).

Leetonidas
07-01-2022, 01:36 PM
You need to read and comprehend before you type. It's precisely because WE CAN'T READ THE FUTURE (YOU NOR I) that I said the Dejounte deal IS CONTINGENT ON ATLANTA SUCKING A$$ 3 years from now. If they don't, it's a HORRIBLE deal for us. I DON'T KNOW what's going to happen, which is PRECISELY why I said what I said.
and yet you are here predicting the Kings pick will be more valuable because, in your words, "ITS THE KINGS, they wont be a top team." so apparently you are the one who needs to comprehend the shit you're typing :lol

As far as DJ/atlanta picks, no shit sherlock, you ain't stating anything that isnt completely fucking obvious already. "omg the hawks need to not be good in 3 years for those picks to pay off!" NO SHIT?? :lol

rankingtear
07-01-2022, 01:36 PM
It's THE KINGS. They won't be a top team, but they're motivated enough that they'll put enough of a fight to make it out of that range. That pick will turn into a mid first rounder by 2024 or 2025 at the latest. Charlotte's ship is going down if they lose Miles Bridges. I'll take that pick over Charlotte's in a heartbeat

Should I tell kings fans the 16 year playoff drought is over.

scott
07-01-2022, 01:36 PM
I have a feeling Charlotte can make the playoffs once in the next 3 years. The doomposting is a little wild sometimes.

Leetonidas
07-01-2022, 01:37 PM
I have a feeling Charlotte can make the playoffs once in the next 3 years. The doomposting is a little wild sometimes.

BUT WHAT ABOUT MILES BRIDGES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

rastaspur
07-01-2022, 01:40 PM
Wow, that sounds pretty cool for the current players on the team. Have many teams ever done that?

76ers did it several years in a row when they were in the five year tank mode

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07-01-2022, 01:41 PM
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wildbill2u
07-01-2022, 01:46 PM
The dangers, pitfalls and follies of trying to predict the future by tanking and with future draft choices whether protected or not becomes visible in this thread. People getting riled up, emotional, and absolutely illogical over "what-ifs" far into the future. The only trades that seriously matter are those which have an instant effect on some team for next season. "All else is sound and fury, signifying nothing."

BackHome
07-01-2022, 01:58 PM
So it will probably be a week before we see any movement on the Durant trade probably 98% of trades that could be done have been done.

poopbox
07-01-2022, 02:08 PM
Did somebody sign Forbes yet :cry

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07-01-2022, 02:15 PM
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Kevon Looney has agreed to a three-year, $25.5 million deal to stay with the Warriors, per @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn/).

exstatic
07-01-2022, 02:20 PM
I was thinking Duncan Robinson dump but then looked at that contract. Not a chance.

Skinny Dollar Tree Bonner.

barakz21
07-01-2022, 02:21 PM
Wow. Nobody signed yet.

NASpurs
07-01-2022, 02:22 PM
We're about to max Bryn Forbes aren't we?

poopbox
07-01-2022, 02:23 PM
Wow. Nobody signed yet.

Holding our money open so we can take it up the ass for future draft picks from the lakers tbh

If you got a weak stomach I would turn away

flox
07-01-2022, 02:28 PM
Damn Brogdon fetched less of a return than Derrick White

mo7888
07-01-2022, 02:29 PM
Holding our money open so we can take it up the ass for future draft picks from the lakers tbh

If you got a weak stomach I would turn away

I really think we're part of a KD deal but, if we took on WB and 2 unprotected 1st's for Doug and Cap space I'd like that return better than holding onto space...of course we'd waive WB immediately

slick'81
07-01-2022, 02:29 PM
Whos getting the Mcdermoot bag this time��? I

barakz21
07-01-2022, 02:32 PM
Holding our money open so we can take it up the ass for future draft picks from the lakers tbh

If you got a weak stomach I would turn away

nah, I kinda expected that the moment DJ got traded. But still, for as long as I’ve been a Spurfan (since 01), I really can’t remember the team making any 12:01 type of signings. If they have, it must be pretty rare. In any case, I expected them to make C level signings, maybe even B at best. After the trade, that went down to C at best. But for them
not to have signed anyone? Just seems weird.

spurspl
07-01-2022, 02:34 PM
wtf why patfo didnt want to include huerter in djm trade... atl just traded him for a bag of chips...

Ron Swanson
07-01-2022, 02:39 PM
Per Woj, Jazz are trading Gobert to the Wolves.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 02:42 PM
Per Woj, Jazz are trading Gobert to the Wolves.

Wow...didn't see that one coming..

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 02:43 PM
I don't totally understand KAT and Gobert together, but we'll see.

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 02:43 PM
Not sure I see the fit with KAT defensively. Neither can defend the perimeter.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 02:44 PM
Patrick Beverly on the move again lol

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07-01-2022, 02:45 PM
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The Timberwolves are sending Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt and multiple first-round picks for Gobert, sources tell ESPN.

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heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 02:46 PM
wow Rudy to Twolves would be big if true

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07-01-2022, 02:47 PM
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Robz4000
07-01-2022, 02:47 PM
:lol Pat Bev got his play-in championship at least

Dejounte
07-01-2022, 02:47 PM
Crazy

lmbebo
07-01-2022, 02:47 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1542956279546740736?s=21&t=GDewlPG5V6uOiH7EJmtRVg

Gobert to Twolves is true

heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 02:48 PM
Yeah kinda logjammin the C depth for Minny there not sure why but maybe there are additional moves?

NASpurs
07-01-2022, 02:48 PM
Wolves are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole just for the sake of making a move.

Ron Swanson
07-01-2022, 02:49 PM
Pat Bev in Utah :lol

NASpurs
07-01-2022, 02:49 PM
:lol Pat Bev got his play-in championship at least

Can't ever forget the tears.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 02:49 PM
It's to make up for how soft and mentally weak Towns is when it matters. He was awful in the POs. But having him play PF next to Gobert is going to be a mess.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 02:50 PM
Utah has to cut Beverly. They want no part of him.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 02:50 PM
Yeah kinda logjammin the C depth for Minny there not sure why but maybe there are additional moves?

Now Utah has a hole at C...maybe we can fill it...and yes I know I'm setting myself up for a baseline bum retort lol

heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 02:51 PM
Guess one way of looking at it is Minny will have one of Rudy or KAT on the floor at all times perhaps?

Wouldn't see Minny dumping KAT then would you? Kinda feels like he is a knucklehead for them and there were times last season where Twolves looked better with KAT on the bench. No way that is the plan though right? Just thinking out loud here show me the light

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 02:51 PM
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Trill Clinton
07-01-2022, 02:52 PM
Kat can finally play on the wing full time now like he always wanted

Ron Swanson
07-01-2022, 02:52 PM
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Holy shit.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 02:52 PM
Damn...3 of those are unprotected...from Minnesota! Now that's an incredible overpay by a historically bad team for the least valuable position on the court...

Dejounte
07-01-2022, 02:52 PM
They just extended kat. Theyre not dumping him

NASpurs
07-01-2022, 02:53 PM
I was going to say "LOL Spurs" but then again, DJ puts up nice stats while Rudy is DPOY various times.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 02:54 PM
Our Atlanta trade may have reset the greater market and made unprotected picks moving again a real thing..

heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 02:54 PM
Doamn that tantalizing stockpile of unprotected 1sts

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-01-2022, 02:55 PM
Minnesota are idiots.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 02:55 PM
Minnesota is the only team with two $200+ million players.

rjv
07-01-2022, 02:56 PM
Pat Bev in Utah :lol


:rollinlove it. he's bound to be pissed.

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 02:56 PM
Pretty dumb move by the Wolves tbh. Kinda curious to see if an oldschool 2-big line up can succeed. How can you get 3 unprotected firsts, 1 top 5 protected and a swap for this type of contract though? That's an amazing haul for Utah. I guess they are really blowing it up. Mitchell to Miami should be next. They will be our tank rival

Dejounte
07-01-2022, 02:56 PM
This is the kind of move you pull when you know you’re on the brink of a dynasty

the Twolves are dumbasses and the worst org in sports

Ditty
07-01-2022, 02:57 PM
What a good get that the Jazz got from the timberwolves.

slick'81
07-01-2022, 02:57 PM
Pretty dumb move by the Wolves tbh. Kinda curious to see if an oldschool 2-big line up can succeed. How can you get 3 unprotected firsts, 1 top 5 protected and a swap for this type of contract though? That's an amazing haul for Utah. I guess they are really blowing it up. Mitchell to Miami should be next. They will be our tank rival

great deal for utah

exstatic
07-01-2022, 02:57 PM
Per Woj, Jazz are trading Gobert to the Wolves.

Whaaaaat?

heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 02:57 PM
Wow Jazz snagged 22 FRP Walker Kessler from the Timbys too

BatManu20
07-01-2022, 02:57 PM
Goddamn that’s way too much for Gobert. They just sold the farm.

Trading picks seven years out is a horrible idea. This will backfire horribly for Minnesota.

1542958944708083714

slick'81
07-01-2022, 02:58 PM
Goddamn that’s too much for Gobert. They just sold the farm.

Trading picks seven years out is a horrible idea. This will backfire horribly for Minnesota.


1542958944708083714

makes sours deal look like peanuts

Robz4000
07-01-2022, 03:01 PM
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:lmao:lmao Jesus fucking Christ Minny

heyheymymy
07-01-2022, 03:01 PM
What a gamble for Minny. Don't feel like Rudy G is enough to render those picks less valuable than the return Minny gets from the trade.

Rudy basically has to vault the fuck out of Minny to offset coughing up those picks and I'm not sure I bet on that occurring personally.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 03:01 PM
This is a move they made to cover for their $200+ million center who doesn't want to play center and isn't good at center things. So they got another $200+ million player who can't shoot or guard the perimeter and will clog the lane for guys like Anthony Edwards.

R. DeMurre
07-01-2022, 03:01 PM
Towns gonna be taking 8 3pt shots a game now. Interesting experiment. It'll be fun to watch, at the very least.

exstatic
07-01-2022, 03:03 PM
Um, Utah needs a center, and just got a lot of yummy pick from Minny.

BWS-1994
07-01-2022, 03:04 PM
Um, Utah needs a center, and just got a lot of yummy pick from Minny.

They might be tanking as well though…

mo7888
07-01-2022, 03:04 PM
Um, Utah needs a center, and just got a lot of yummy pick from Minny.

My thoughts exactly....one has to wonder though if Utah is entering the Wembanyama chase and are about to unload Mitchell for picks too...

emanueldavidginobili
07-01-2022, 03:05 PM
Jazz exploring a sign and trade with the Suns to get Ayton

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:05 PM
My thoughts exactly....one has to wonder though if Utah is entering the Wembanyama chase and are about to unload Mitchell for picks too...


Ding ding

td4mvp2k
07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
welp now jazz want ayton

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
Um, Utah needs a center, and just got a lot of yummy pick from Minny.

Word is they're interested in Deandre Ayton now.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
Um, Utah needs a center, and just got a lot of yummy pick from Minny.
they did get walker kessler back

exstatic
07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
makes sours deal look like peanuts
Gobert has been a 3X all star, 4X All NBA, 6X All D, and 3X DPOY, so perhaps you should sit the fuck down.

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
My thoughts exactly....one has to wonder though if Utah is entering the Wembanyama chase and are about to unload Mitchell for picks too...

ex thinks they want Poeltl :lol

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:07 PM
Gobert has been a 3X all star, 4X All NBA, 6X All D, and 3X DPOY, so perhaps you should sit the tuck down.

i know ,it makes ours looks like peanuts and not the honey roasted kind

R. DeMurre
07-01-2022, 03:07 PM
Patrick Beverley is that kind of player that everyone has to say nice things about when he's on your team-- we love his passion, his intensity is contagious--but in truth no one really wants him because he's too crazy and out of control. I bet you could find a hundred tweets and instagram posts praising him, while the whole time everyone's thinking holy shit I hope this guy gets traded soon.

Ocotillo
07-01-2022, 03:11 PM
I also read something about Utah talking with Miami about Donovan Mitchell

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 03:12 PM
Word is Utah is planning on rebuilding around Donovan Mitchell. He's still young.

Chinook
07-01-2022, 03:12 PM
welp now jazz want ayton

Then the Spurs get Cam from Phoenix for Poeltl and sign Smith. Profit.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 03:13 PM
ex thinks they want Poeltl :lol

Ayton is probably who they pursue if they keep Mitchell...but i imagine NY will offer 5 unprotected picks for Mitchell if they want to blow it all up now...Poeltl is probably a fall back if they don't get Ayton and build around Mitchell...either way this should increase Poeltl's value...and we need to move on it before the rest of the league figures out how dumb the Minnesota trade was..

timtonymanu
07-01-2022, 03:13 PM
:lol this is why I find it ridiculous when sniffers say that tanking is bad because it hasn’t worked for New Orleans and Minnesota, but those two franchises are always making mistakes that even the Spurs can’t match.

cd98
07-01-2022, 03:13 PM
TBH, if I were the Jazz, I'd want Poeltl. He played college at the University of Utah and unlike American players, Euros like Utah. You get a guy that would want to be there and costs a lot less.

John B
07-01-2022, 03:14 PM
wtf why patfo didnt want to include huerter in djm trade... atl just traded him for a bag of chips...

Spurs
are
getting
picks
only
with
bad
contracts

Don’t expect any signing until, most likely, KD’s deal which FO’s probably hoping to get 2-3 FRP’s.

I’m on the same boat. I’m waiting for Jalen Smith, but FO cannot risk losing cap space until KD, or Kyrie or one of the big deals, are done.

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 03:20 PM
wtf why patfo didnt want to include huerter in djm trade... atl just traded him for a bag of chips...

Heurter is only a shooter and isn't terribly good. The Spurs went hard for shooters last summer and it didn't work out.

R. DeMurre
07-01-2022, 03:22 PM
Word is Utah is planning on rebuilding around Donovan Mitchell. He's still young.

Building around a maxed out 6'1" shooting guard who doesn't defend might be the worst strategy there is.

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 03:26 PM
Building around a maxed out 6'1" shooting guard who doesn't defend might be the worst strategy there is.

But it’s spida…… lol.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 03:27 PM
Building around a maxed out 6'1" shooting guard who doesn't defend might be the worst strategy there is.

Maybe 2nd worse compared to building around 2-$200M Centers in a league devaluing Centers..

John B
07-01-2022, 03:28 PM
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Wow how many FRP’s we can get for Poodle?

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:28 PM
Wow how many FRP’s we can get for Poodle?

one, based off the dejounte deal:lol and a couple of swaps

mo7888
07-01-2022, 03:29 PM
Wow how many FRP’s we can get for Poodle?

Maybe 2 protected or 1 unprotected...also depends if we take back salary..

Davidicus2
07-01-2022, 03:37 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1542963062487007241?s=21

Mr. Body
07-01-2022, 03:41 PM
If Utah manages to get Ayton, they've done a hell of a job for themselves.

spurspl
07-01-2022, 03:41 PM
Spurs
are
getting
picks
only
with
bad
contracts

Don’t expect any signing until, most likely, KD’s deal which FO’s probably hoping to get 2-3 FRP’s.

I’m on the same boat. I’m waiting for Jalen Smith, but FO cannot risk losing cap space until KD, or Kyrie or one of the big deals, are done.

u right, i didnt notice that huerter earns 14,5mln

John B
07-01-2022, 03:44 PM
u right, i didnt notice that huerter earns 14,5mln

Yup this feels like Christmas morning when other kids already opened their presents, and you’re waiting for your sweater :(

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:45 PM
Yup this feels like Christmas morning when other kids already opened their presents, and you’re waiting for your sweater :(


or your mom bought you the wrong video game but you have to pretend to like it

DAF86
07-01-2022, 03:48 PM
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Holy shit.

What the fuck? Is Gobbert really that much more valuable than Murray, or does PATFO just sucks at negotiating?

Ariel
07-01-2022, 03:48 PM
So basically 5 first rounders (3 unprotected, 1 top 5 protected, + the recent pick Kessler) plus an unprotected swap, plus some useful players (like Beverly) for a defense only center on a horrible contract... better deal than we got, frankly.

KingKev
07-01-2022, 03:49 PM
David Kahn running Minny again?!?

They were just getting traction too.

Ariel
07-01-2022, 03:49 PM
If Utah manages to get Ayton, they've done a hell of a job for themselves.
They can get him for nothing. But the fact that they got Kessler, who suspiciously seems like hand picked for Utah, makes me doubt that.

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:50 PM
What the fuck? Is Gobbert really that much more valuable than Murray, or does PATFO just sucks at negotiating?

bruh, way more valuable. "Sit the tuck down"according to exstatic

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:51 PM
So basically 5 first rounders (3 unprotected, 1 top 5 protected, + the recent pick Kessler) plus an unprotected swap, plus some useful players (like Beverly) for a defense only center on a horrible contract... better deal than we got, frankly.

try amazingly better but not surprising

KingKev
07-01-2022, 03:53 PM
KD’s asking price is now your franchise’s FRPs in perpetuity. Even if you move.

Kurik
07-01-2022, 03:53 PM
Gobert has a much higher value to teams trying to contend and win, doesn’t mean they are right or good at their valuations. Murray was not gonna get the Spurs 4 FRPs.

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:56 PM
Gobert has a much higher value to teams trying to contend and win, doesn’t mean they are right or good at their valuations. Murray was not gonna get the Spurs 4 FRPs.

not even close. Murray doesn't have the perceived value gobert does

DAF86
07-01-2022, 03:56 PM
bruh, way more valuable. "Sit the tuck down"according to exstatic

An old, non-shooting big on an awful contract vs a young, up and coming all-star guard on a bargain. There's no way the Jazz should have got more than we did.

slick'81
07-01-2022, 03:57 PM
An old, non-shooting big on an awful contract vs a young, up and coming all-star guard on a bargain. There's no way the Jazz should have got more than we did.

obviously , sometimes perception is not reality though

Kurik
07-01-2022, 03:57 PM
An old, non-shooting big on an awful contract vs a young, up and coming all-star guard on a bargain. There's no way the Jazz should have got more than we did.

People who suck at their jobs exist, it’s the T-Wolves in this case.

DAF86
07-01-2022, 03:58 PM
Gobert has a much higher value to teams trying to contend and win, doesn’t mean they are right or good at their valuations. Murray was not gonna get the Spurs 4 FRPs.

Gobbert might have had (barely) more value on a team without a center. Not on a team that has KAT. As bad as this makes the Spurs' trade seem, it's an even more devastating look on the Wolves. What the fuck are they thinking? :lol

Also, it just hit me, the Kawhi trade. How awful it was :depressed

CGD
07-01-2022, 03:59 PM
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Holy shit.

Damn! That makes our DJM haul look like peanuts!

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 03:59 PM
Hornets and Raptors still need a Center. Those are Poeltl destinations

Atl Spur
07-01-2022, 04:00 PM
KD’s asking price is now your franchise’s FRPs in perpetuity. Even if you move.

Really?? Good one!!!

slick'81
07-01-2022, 04:00 PM
Gobbert might have had (barely) more value on a team without a center. Not on a team that has KAT. As bad as this makes the Spurs' trade seem, it's an even more devastating look on the Wolves. What the fuck are they thinking? :lol

Also, it just hit me, the Kawhi trade. How awful it was :depressed

and the derozan was no better. Spurs never deal from a perceived advantage

Ariel
07-01-2022, 04:01 PM
Hornets and Raptors still need a Center. Those are Poeltl destinations
Hornets drafted Mark Williams. Not happening. Toronto drafted Koloko... might happen, but they're not in a hurry. Poeltl's price is waaay down...

Kurik
07-01-2022, 04:02 PM
The only reasoning I can understand is that the T-Wolves are being extorted, blackmailed, or held at gunpoint. Las Vegas Timberwolves?

slick'81
07-01-2022, 04:02 PM
Hornets drafted Mark Williams. Not happening. Toronto drafted Koloko... might happen, but they're not in a hurry. Poeltl's price is waaay down...


poodles value only gets worse from here on out

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:02 PM
After what the Jazz just got for Gobert, the first thing I can think of is why the hell is Jakob still on this team? Get on the f'n phone BWrong.

mo7888
07-01-2022, 04:03 PM
Hornets drafted Mark Williams. Not happening. Toronto drafted Koloko... might happen, but they're not in a hurry. Poeltl's price is waaay down...

It shouldn't be after the Gobert trade...

Chinook
07-01-2022, 04:03 PM
Who has more value: a fringe-All Star guard or a HoF center in his prime? The world may never know the answer to this question...

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07-01-2022, 04:04 PM
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The Timberwolves are sending Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt and multiple first-round picks for Gobert, sources tell ESPN.

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Thought that said Leandro Barbosa I was like "aint no way that dude still in the league :lol"

Ariel
07-01-2022, 04:05 PM
try amazingly better but not surprising
Difference is, DANNY AINGE RUNS UTAH....

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:06 PM
Rudy is a 3x DPOY, multiple time All Star who's locked up for 2 more years than DJ (though at a pretty hefty price). He was always gonna have more value than Murray.

That said, it's definitely a huge overpay by Minnesota and I also think the Spurs could have probably gotten another pick swap from ATL in hindsight :lol

slick'81
07-01-2022, 04:06 PM
Who has more value: a fringe-All Star guard or a HoF center in his prime? The world may never know the answer to this question...

if mutombo or dennis gets in then of course.

poopbox
07-01-2022, 04:06 PM
It shouldn't be after the Gobert trade...

I figured Poeltl is going to go for probably just a protected 1st rounder. Not to many teams will be interested in a center you can't even play at the end of games cause of his free throw shooting AND who is looking for a big pay day

KobesAchilles
07-01-2022, 04:08 PM
if mutombo or dennis gets in then of course.
Rodman fetched Will Perdue :lol

John B
07-01-2022, 04:10 PM
Thought that said Leandro Barbosa I was like "aint no way that dude still in the league :lol"

Damn what’s KD’s haul gonna look like? :lol

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 04:10 PM
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slick'81
07-01-2022, 04:10 PM
Rodman fetched Will Perdue :lol

yea and got Chicago multiple titles

scott
07-01-2022, 04:12 PM
If Utah manages to get Ayton, they've done a hell of a job for themselves.

Absolutely. Imagine Utah can get Ayton for their own protected pick, they've basically taken a slight downgrade at C in exchange for a bunch of unprotected firsts. Masterclass.

Dejounte
07-01-2022, 04:12 PM
https://twitter.com/yossigozlan/status/1542978543369330688

rjv
07-01-2022, 04:14 PM
Who has more value: a fringe-All Star guard or a HoF center in his prime? The world may never know the answer to this question...

knee jerk ST posters acting as if murray and gobert have equal value

CGD
07-01-2022, 04:14 PM
So basically the second team now enters the Wemby Sweepstakes. Mitchell aint long for Utah tbh.

rjv
07-01-2022, 04:16 PM
Damn what’s KD’s haul gonna look like? :lol

it may be so ridiculous a demand that it may not happen. i can't even imagine the kind of theoretical physics math that is going on in some front offices just to try to make a deal work out.

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:16 PM
Is a 3 team possible with:

Jazz: Getting Ayton
Suns: Getting Jakob
Spurs: Getting one of those unprotected Minny picks back

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 04:17 PM
other than ayton and i guess sexton, are there even any other free agents of note that teams actually have to clear cap space for?

CGD
07-01-2022, 04:17 PM
Who has more value: a fringe-All Star guard or a HoF center in his prime? The world may never know the answer to this question...

Fair enough, but 3 unprotected picks more (and MIN's 2022 FRP on top of that)?
Rudy is also 30 not 25

slick'81
07-01-2022, 04:18 PM
Fair enough, but 3 unprotected picks more (and MIN's 2022 FRP on top of that)?
Rudy is also 30 not 25


cant compare the accolades my man

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 04:19 PM
Damn what’s KD’s haul gonna look like? :lol
probably something like 4 picks + 3 swaps, all unprotected + a good player

which is dumb. who the fuck would send 7 years worth of picks for durant who will probably just bail on your team after 2-3 years

CGD
07-01-2022, 04:19 PM
Is a 3 team possible with:

Jazz: Getting Ayton
Suns: Getting Jakob
Spurs: Getting one of those unprotected Minny picks back

I dont think Utah does this move with the idea of getting Ayton.

BackHome
07-01-2022, 04:19 PM
Difference is, DANNY AINGE RUNS UTAH....

Danny and Presti are two of the best in making trades and getting picks no one else comes close - However, getting there teams to get the rings are another matter

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:20 PM
probably something like 4 picks + 3 swaps, all unprotected + a good player

which is dumb. who the fuck would send 7 years worth of picks for durant who will probably just bail on your team after 2-3 years

The Suns :lol

CP3 has maybe two seasons left at most as well. I'd jump all over every single PHX pick from '25 and onwards if I was the Nets while getting Bridges back tbh.

BackHome
07-01-2022, 04:22 PM
probably something like 4 picks + 3 swaps, all unprotected + a good player

which is dumb. who the fuck would send 7 years worth of picks for durant who will probably just bail on your team after 2-3 years

They don't want picks since HOUSTON owns most of them so they want players they kinda screwed - But they probably having a big party in Houston Rockets head quarters right now....

CGD
07-01-2022, 04:22 PM
probably something like 4 picks + 3 swaps, all unprotected + a good player

which is dumb. who the fuck would send 7 years worth of picks for durant who will probably just bail on your team after 2-3 years

I think this narrows the range of motion for the Durant move. Durant is great, but i would have to think long and hard about giving up control of my draft for the next 8 years. MIA will pivot to Mitchell, leaving the Suns as the only viable team right now. Could mean KD just returns to BKN

rjv
07-01-2022, 04:22 PM
My thoughts exactly....one has to wonder though if Utah is entering the Wembanyama chase and are about to unload Mitchell for picks too...


per woj, the jazz are looking to retool around mitchell and presently have no plans to trade him.

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 04:24 PM
Jazz will probably try to land Ayton and John Collins with those picks

Chinook
07-01-2022, 04:25 PM
Fair enough, but 3 unprotected picks more (and MIN's 2022 FRP on top of that)?
Rudy is also 30 not 25

I mean, I don't think they made a good deal, but if you believe Rudy was a victim of Utah's defensive scheme, then yeah, he's multiple tiers above Murray. I think both ATL and Minny took risks.

lmbebo
07-01-2022, 04:27 PM
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1542981516728451072?s=21&t=GDewlPG5V6uOiH7EJmtRVg

dunno what KD expects ....

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:27 PM
This is the absolute perfect f'n year to tank. The Spurs better not f this up and bring in anybody decent tbh. :lol

RC_Drunkford
07-01-2022, 04:30 PM
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1542981516728451072?s=21&t=GDewlPG5V6uOiH7EJmtRVg

dunno what KD expects ....

:lmao KD should play 2K

scott
07-01-2022, 04:31 PM
https://twitter.com/yossigozlan/status/1542978543369330688

We stand ready to facilitate.

ace3g
07-01-2022, 04:32 PM
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According to a league source, the Celtics are expected to agree to a multi-year deal with Sam Hauser when the dust clears in the coming days, too. Boston made that route pretty clear when it declined Hauser's team option for next year.

spurraider21
07-01-2022, 04:33 PM
This is the absolute perfect f'n year to tank. The Spurs better not f this up and bring in anybody decent tbh. :lol
is there even anybody decent available if we wanted to?

Leetonidas
07-01-2022, 04:33 PM
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1542981516728451072?s=21&t=GDewlPG5V6uOiH7EJmtRVg

dunno what KD expects ....

He expects Brooklyn to take Herro, Robinson and picks:lmao

Degoat
07-01-2022, 04:33 PM
If the spurs are facilitating, we better get some good shit

rjv
07-01-2022, 04:34 PM
it'd be hilarious AF if the jazz packaged beverley and picks for ayton; pat would have to play with CP3 after all that smack he talked about him.

skin27
07-01-2022, 04:35 PM
Spurs should go 0-82 bext season to land wembanyama

Mugen
07-01-2022, 04:35 PM
is there even anybody decent available if we wanted to?

I'll breathe easier when Ayton is confirmed elsewhere. I don't trust PATFO to not pull some BS all of a sudden with that huge amount of cap space.

Drom John
07-01-2022, 04:35 PM
Utah just got a center.
I'm not saying 2022 Walker Kessler is as good as good as 2022 Rudy Gobert, but 2022 Kessler > 2013 Gobert.
When #9 and #20 came up, Kessler was at the top of my list.