2025 NBA Offseason Thread

[LeBowen]

Castle had a bad fall, injured his wrist and was shut down.
Wemby didn't play in the first SL, can't remember where it was, he played only in Vegas.

[ChumpDumper]

According to this article from the NY Post it is.



https://nypost.com/2025/06/27/sports/ace-baileys-jazz-future-gets-murkier-after-agent-interview/


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Though he has been identified over and over as Bailey’s agent, the Deseret News has confirmed that Cooper is not an NBPA-certified agent, which means he can not provide counsel to Bailey or represent him in any kind of contract negotiations.

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2025/06/27/ace-bailey-utah-jazz-rookie-omar-cooper-issues/

[BatManu20]

:lol note the quotes in your picture.

Though he has been identified over and over as Bailey’s agent, the Deseret News has confirmed that Cooper is not an NBPA-certified agent, which means he can not provide counsel to Bailey or represent him in any kind of contract negotiations.

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2025/06/27/ace-bailey-utah-jazz-rookie-omar-cooper-issues/

:lol okay my bad. He's a wannabe agent posing as Bailey's agent. Even though he's not NBPA-certified, he appears to be advising Bailey behind the scenes regardless. This is apparently how they know each other:



Ace Bailey is represented by Omar Cooper of LifeStyle Sports Agency. Cooper is the father of former Auburn player Sharife Cooper, who was drafted by the Hawks (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/atlanta-hawks) in 2022 but currently plays overseas.

Cooper and Bailey met when Bailey played on Cooper's Athletes of Tomorrow basketball team. Bailey moved from Tennessee to Georgia in high school to be closer to Cooper, who then helped connect Bailey to Rutgers as a recruit out of high school.
Cooper helped develop Bailey in high school, as the future Rutgers star was one of several boys and girls whom Cooper took under his wing.
"The plan was to keep Ace in the gym 24/7," Cooper said, via Kevin Armstrong of NJ Advanced Media (https://www.nj.com/sports/2025/06/diamond-in-the-dirt.html). "For the most part, it was sunup to sundown for him to be able to turn the corner."

(https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/ace-bailey-agent-omar-cooper-nba-draft-concerns/c939c99822b5d192a589c887#:~:text=Ace%20Bailey%20is %20represented%20by,Athletes%20of%20Tomorrow%20bas ketball%20team.)https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/ace-bailey-agent-omar-cooper-nba-draft-concerns/c939c99822b5d192a589c887#:~:text=Ace%20Bailey%20is %20represented%20by,Athletes%20of%20Tomorrow%20bas ketball%20team.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh yeah, more AAU garbage.

[exstatic]

i already see Jazz fans trying to tell themselves it's not a big deal that he didn't hop on a plane yet...meanwhile Harper and Bryant were here the next day and already posing in their jerseys. Poor Jazz fans

As awful as that would look for the league, a tiny part of me wants him to sit out and Cost Ainge a top 5 pick.

[itzsoweezee]

:lol okay my bad. He's a wannabe agent posing as Bailey's agent. Even though he's not NBPA-certified, he appears to be advising Bailey behind the scenes regardless. This is apparently how they know each other:




(https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/ace-bailey-agent-omar-cooper-nba-draft-concerns/c939c99822b5d192a589c887#:~:text=Ace%20Bailey%20is %20represented%20by,Athletes%20of%20Tomorrow%20bas ketball%20team.)https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/ace-bailey-agent-omar-cooper-nba-draft-concerns/c939c99822b5d192a589c887#:~:text=Ace%20Bailey%20is %20represented%20by,Athletes%20of%20Tomorrow%20bas ketball%20team.

Utah’s very own Uncle Dennis

[BatManu20]

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[vy65]

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Is his agent Tracy Morgan?

[ace3g]

https://x.com/KellyIko/status/1938726426603332077

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1938726135514231073

[benefactor]

:lol letting quieter, smaller LaVar Ball make decisions for you

[scott]

The 30 for 30 on Ace Bailey will be fun

[Mugen]

Spurs would have taken VJ at 3 if they didn't get 2 right? No way they would have touched Bailey :lol

[scott]

Spurs would have taken VJ at 3 if they didn't get 2 right? No way they would have touched Bailey :lol

Just as I dare not think about what would have happened if we were picking #2 in 2023, I don't want to harm my brain by thinking about picking #3 this year.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1938762439895498989

[spurraider21]

wowza

but thats more or less in line with expectations. 25m per year seemed like what his market would have been. i dont think anybody would have approached 30. big for minnesota to keep him, especially with randle's future uncertain

[PopTheGOAT]

There goes Naz

[BatManu20]

Naz Reid's performance in the Playoffs turned me off on him tbh. He's soft, doesn't crash the boards, no back-to-the-basket game, just hovers around the 3-point line (mostly in the corner), etc. Minny can have him tbh.

[benefactor]

Yeah that's about market value for him tbh

[Dejounte]

Naz Reid's performance in the Playoffs turned me off on him tbh. He's soft, doesn't crash the boards, no back-to-the-basket game, just hovers around the 3-point line (mostly in the corner), etc. Minny can have him tbh.

precisely the pf that most here want (even wanted someone like mcneeley to do what you described) and what ive wanted to avoid

[mystargtr34]

Not surprised. $25M per is about market value as mentioned above. Some teams probably would have gone to $30M per over 4 years but that would be an overpay for the value he brings. Even $25M is slightly above his true value.

Bring on Santi, Collins or PJ Washington.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs would have taken VJ at 3 if they didn't get 2 right? No way they would have touched Bailey :lol

I doubt they would have any real interest in Ace Bailey. He doesn't tick any of the Spurs boxes. IMO they'd go Edgecombe or Tre Johnson.

[scott]

If Naz is worth $25MM/yr then I think Santi is worth... $25MM/yr

[Mr. Body]

What's Drew Eubanks doing.

[mystargtr34]

If Naz is worth $25MM/yr then I think Santi is worth... $25MM/yr

I have zero doubt Santi’s agent is going to be showing the Reid contract in every negotiation.

But I feel like if Naz is worth $25M then Santi is about $20M. Based on Naz producing for a couple extra seasons on a winning team and proving himself somewhat it in the playoffs by being a contributor to playoff series wins.

[Mugen]

Honestly think he took a little discount to stay in Minny. That's not a bad price for him tbh.

[scott]

I have zero doubt Santi’s agent is going to be showing the Reid contract in every negotiation.

But I feel like if Naz is worth $25M then Santi is about $20M. Based on Naz producing for a couple extra seasons on a winning team and proving himself somewhat it in the playoffs by being a contributor to playoff series wins.

Well, I would object to the idea that Naz proved himself somewhat in the playoffs... he was pretty disappointing there IMO. And I think Santi offers more in terms of his skillset, even if it's not quite realized yet - which is why I put them both equal. We will see!

[mystargtr34]

Well, I would object to the idea that Naz proved himself somewhat in the playoffs... he was pretty disappointing there IMO. And I think Santi offers more in terms of his skillset, even if it's not quite realized yet - which is why I put them both equal. We will see!

I’m not convinced enough in my own case to argue it :lol I could see teams offering Santi 4/$100M tbh. 4/$80M feels more in line with value but FA’s are rarely signed at market value when changing teams.

[mystargtr34]

Would anyone care to share the DPM charts for Aldama and Naz Reid? The same one that was comparing Carter Bryant to Danny Green.

[SpursBills]

https://i.postimg.cc/15pMX1WY/FA-PFs.jpg
Would anyone care to share the DPM charts for Aldama and Naz Reid? The same one that was comparing Carter Bryant to Danny Green.

[mystargtr34]

Thanks SpursBills.

[baseline bum]

Spurs would have taken VJ at 3 if they didn't get 2 right? No way they would have touched Bailey :lol

I don't think they would have taken Bailey at 14 tbh

[cutewizard]

I wished we had some sort of Jrue Holiday type player.......

[RC_Drunkford]

here's the price for Claxton

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[RC_Drunkford]

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[BatManu20]

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[RC_Drunkford]

hope he doesn't go to the Lakers

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[ginobilized]

hope he doesn't go to the Lakers

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Wouldn't surprise me if Toronto makes a strong play for NAW and brings him back to his hometown.

[mo7888]

Lonzo to Cleveland for okoro

Shams

[BatManu20]

Great deal for the Cavs tbh. They get off Okoro's deal when he's useless to them now anyways that they've acquired De'Andre Hunter, and they pick up an expiring Lonzo Ball who, IF* he can stay on the floor, is a very good 3&D play-making PG, something they sorely lacked in the Playoffs outside of Donovan Mitchell.

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Chicago continue to be idiots for yet another offseason. Call them Brian!

[CGD]

hope he doesn't go to the Lakers

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Im thinking Atlanta, but hoping it’s us.

[CGD]

Great deal for the Cavs tbh. They get off Okoro's deal when he's useless to them now anyways that they've acquired De'Andre Hunter, and they pick up an expiring Lonzo Ball who, IF* he can stay on the floor, is a very good 3&D play-making PG, something they sorely lacked in the Playoffs outside of Donovan Mitchell.

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But Cavs are taking on MORE salary. Might be a good opportunity to poach Ty Jerome or Sam Merrill to beef up our shooting needs.

[LeBowen]

Chicago continue to be idiots for yet another offseason. Call them Brian!

They have nothing left unless you want to trade Keldon for Vucevic.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They have nothing left unless you want to trade Keldon for Vucevic.

Picks. They have picks.

[LeBowen]

Picks. They have picks.

They're not trading their own picks for anyone we want to get rid of.

They have the cleanest pick situation I've ever seen.
Lottery protected '26 POR, no other outgoing or incoming FRPs.
Two outgoing SRPs from '26 to '32.

Proper old-school franchise, they don't do any of this picks trading nonsense. :lol

[Mugen]

Why don't the Bulls ever get picks in these trades? Like even some 2nd rounders or something. Did the same thing with Giddey/Caruso last year IIRC.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They're not trading their own picks for anyone we want to get rid of.

They have the cleanest pick situation I've ever seen.
Lottery protected '26 POR, no other outgoing or incoming FRPs.
Two outgoing SRPs from '26 to '32.

Proper old-school franchise, they don't do any of this picks trading nonsense. :lol

Yeah they don’t seem to realise they can get picks in lopsided player/contract trades.

[Seventyniner]

They're not trading their own picks for anyone we want to get rid of.

You never know until you ask! They gave up a protected first to get DDR a few years ago and had to eat a year of Zollins while shipping out LaVine to get it back.

I don't think CHI is one of the dumb FOs you always want to take advantage of like SAC or NO, but I also don't think they're one of the sophisticated ones that seem like they always get the better end like BOS.

[ace3g]

Bobby Marks suggests this trade for the Spurs


One move I would make: Trade Keldon Johnson, Blake Wesley, a 2029 first (top-four protected), 2032 right to swap in the first (top-two protected) and two future seconds to Brooklyn for Cameron Johnson.

San Antonio Spurs
Below the tax: $27 million

Below the first apron: $32 million

The Spurs check the four boxes to acquire an All-Star level player; draft equity, controllable and sizable contracts and a playoff-caliber roster. Not including Victor Wembanyama and De'Aaron Fox, San Antonio has seven players earning between $4.7 million to $27 million.

Financially, Year 3 of Wembanyama's first-round rookie contract has put San Antonio in a position to take back salary and not face financial restrictions. Besides adding to its roster, the focus this offseason is an extension for Fox. The guard is eligible starting Aug. 3 to sign a four-year, $229 million extension.

Team needs: Backcourt depth, shooting and reserve big

Free agents who fit: De'Anthony Melton, Dennis Schroder, Gary Payton II, Tyus Jones, Malik Beasley, Ty Jerome, Tyus Jones, Malcolm Brogdon, Caris LeVert, Chris Paul, Larry Nance Jr., Al Horford, Amir Coffey, Luke Kennard, Gary Trent Jr., Jake LaRavia, Clint Capela, D'Angelo Russell, Quentin Grimes, Santi Aldama, Isaiah Jackson, Kevon Looney


NBA free agency 2025 - Cap space, best fits for all 30 teams - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45599900/nba-free-agency-2025-cap-space-best-fits-all-30-teams)

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939018129700511761

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939025109391495632

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Super cheap deal for Merrill, well done Cavs. They’ve not done anything to address their second apron situation though, it’s probably coming soon.

[spurraider21]

Damn Merrill would have been a nice shooter with solid size

[Spursfanfromafar]

Bobby Marks suggests this trade for the Spurs



San Antonio Spurs
Below the tax: $27 million

Below the first apron: $32 million

The Spurs check the four boxes to acquire an All-Star level player; draft equity, controllable and sizable contracts and a playoff-caliber roster. Not including Victor Wembanyama and De'Aaron Fox, San Antonio has seven players earning between $4.7 million to $27 million.

Financially, Year 3 of Wembanyama's first-round rookie contract has put San Antonio in a position to take back salary and not face financial restrictions. Besides adding to its roster, the focus this offseason is an extension for Fox. The guard is eligible starting Aug. 3 to sign a four-year, $229 million extension.

Team needs: Backcourt depth, shooting and reserve big

Free agents who fit: De'Anthony Melton, Dennis Schroder, Gary Payton II, Tyus Jones, Malik Beasley, Ty Jerome, Tyus Jones, Malcolm Brogdon, Caris LeVert, Chris Paul, Larry Nance Jr., Al Horford, Amir Coffey, Luke Kennard, Gary Trent Jr., Jake LaRavia, Clint Capela, D'Angelo Russell, Quentin Grimes, Santi Aldama, Isaiah Jackson, Kevon Looney


NBA free agency 2025 - Cap space, best fits for all 30 teams - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45599900/nba-free-agency-2025-cap-space-best-fits-all-30-teams)

Before hiring Carter Bryant, this was an option. But it is not anymore. The Spurs need a backup C and /or a stretch PF. Not 3 and D wings.

[spurraider21]

Super cheap deal for Merrill, well done Cavs. They’ve not done anything to address their second apron situation though, it’s probably coming soon.
They’re going to let Jerome walk

[SpursFan86]

That hypothetical Cam Johnson trade from Marks seems like a pretty big overpay IMO. Keldon/Wesley/two FRPs/two SRPs? I’ll pass on that, and I almost guarantee Wright isn’t giving up that much.

[Mr. Body]

That hypothetical Cam Johnson trade from Marks seems like a pretty big overpay IMO. Keldon/Wesley/two FRPs/two SRPs? I’ll pass on that, and I almost guarantee Wright isn’t giving up that much.

He's pretty much off the table now, I'd think, after Bryant.

[LeBowen]

They’re going to let Jerome walk

Even if they get rid of all non-fully guaranteed contracts they're still over the second apron with this Merrill extension.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/CLE.html

[exstatic]

Great deal for the Cavs tbh. They get off Okoro's deal when he's useless to them now anyways that they've acquired De'Andre Hunter, and they pick up an expiring Lonzo Ball who, IF* he can stay on the floor, is a very good 3&D play-making PG, something they sorely lacked in the Playoffs outside of Donovan Mitchell.

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Hoping for Lonzo is in the same category as hoping for Zion, except bad shoes and not food.

[CGD]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939025109391495632

Damn, there goes one of my targets

[Dverde]

Dougie McBuckets still out there. #returnoftheking

[CGD]

Even if they get rid of all non-fully guaranteed contracts they're still over the second apron with this Merrill extension.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/CLE.html

A Dean Wade for Malaki swap saves them some 2M…

[scott]

We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?

[LeBowen]

We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?

Tbf, I remember trade ideas that would've paired John Collins with LMA and Jakob. :lol

[BacktoBasics]

We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?

Yes. If he were a Spur the same people would hate him and want him traded. I think he’d be a nice fit on this team but I wouldn’t unload a ton for him.

[Mr. Body]

We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?

Him and John Collins.

Their tombstones will say:

"Beloved by their families and by Spurs talk. Sometimes played basketball."

[CGD]

Him and John Collins.

Their tombstones will say:

"Beloved by their families and by Spurs talk. Sometimes played basketball."

You forgot Lauri…

[HankChinaski]

Lauri is making too much to bring over. If we didn't have Fox I would look at a trade for him over Collins from Utah. Just cost too much

[RC_Drunkford]

That trade proposal by Bobby Marks is crazy. 2 firsts and 2 seconds for Cam Johnson. Ain‘t nobody paying that.

[talkspurs]

I would look at Luka Garza for a backup big. He might even be able to play his way into starting especially against bigger teams. He has played well when he has gotten the time.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/BrettSiegelNBA/status/1939049187384922308

[scott]

https://x.com/BrettSiegelNBA/status/1939049187384922308

It would be pretty Spursy for us to come out of our offseason needing bigs with more guards instead...

In all seriousness, if we did sign NAW I think that would be the clearest indication that Vassell is a goner.

[LeBowen]

I don't believe in any reports considering the media's track record as far as Spurs info is concerned, but if we get NAW I think not only Devin, but Keldon is also gone. Too many bodies.

[spurraider21]

HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

KJ should be traded

dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes

[scott]

HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

KJ should be traded

dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes

Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.

[poopbox]

We're going to be talking about Cam Johnson until the day he retires, aren't we?

Nah. Over the next 7 days he will get traded and spurs fans will say "i wouldn't pay that much to get Cam Johnson" or he will sign a contract and no matter what the money is spurs fans will say "i wouldn't pay that much to get Cam Johnson"

[RC_Drunkford]

y'all gotta find a new target for that PF spot

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[Dejounte]

HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

KJ should be traded

dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes


Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.
The Spurs don’t need to solve everything in one offseason, IMO. If it was an open door and there weren’t such thing as contracts, I’d agree. I think they should just go for a stopgap for any areas of need

[SpursFan86]

HB is expiring and averaged less than 4 rebounds per game as a guy who spent most of last year as the starting 4

KJ should be traded

dont let those two guys be part of the equation dissuading you from thinking PF isn’t a need. Backup C is certainly a need as well but a starting caliber PF is going to be more challenging to find (and therefore, a higher priority than) a backup caliber center who can hold it down for 15 minutes

100%. If the Spurs feel like they’re totally set at PF because they have Sochan/Keldon/Barnes then that’s…very concerning. Obviously we’re excited about Bryant but it’s pretty unlikely he’s some great player in year 1, and either way it might take him a year or 2 before he develops the frame to really be a full-time 4 in the NBA.

I think most here are on the same page, but it seems like a consolidation trade is just borderline necessary. If you don’t get rid of any of the existing core it just seems like it’ll be impossible to manage minutes across so many guys while still getting high quality play out of those minutes.

[spurraider21]

The comment “keldon will get minutes at power forward” is an excellent argument for why PF is such a big priority

[Light]

I still lean toward back up center being the greater need, at least for the upcoming season. Long term, a starting PF is definitely needed.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1939082308142932032

[TD 21]

Too much mention of Yabusele to the Spurs to not think this has been in the works for a while (probably since the 76ers jumped to 3, making it highly unlikely they'd be able to retain him).

I like it if it's in conjunction with a consolidation trade to clean up and make sense of the roster. If it's with the intent of just being the primary backup C, I hate it.

[RC_Drunkford]

I was just about to say: you know what would be funny? If the Spurs view Yabusele as a C and not a PF and he's their big aquisiton to fix the back up C role :lol

Still weird that he just moved into a new spot in Philly though

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939092288619130964

[SpursBills]

Agreed. These two things should be the top priorities for the team, IMO, and since starting PF is more important than backup C simply by virtue of minutes impact, I put that as a higher priority. Spurs have the ability to make a move on that front, but they may want to play SFs at PF for some reason. Everyone currently on the roster contemplated for PF minutes isn't really a "modern PF", they are just SFs playing out of position.

I don't necessarily feel that strongly about it, but I do have two points to consider when using minutes to determine whether to prioritize starting PF vs backup center:

1. I think the drop-off from a good rim protector/rebounder over one of our 4s masquerading as true center is more significant than the drop-off between any of the starting PF trade/FA candidates that we have over what we already have. Just like high quality initiators have an outsized impact on a team's offensive value, true centers have an outsized impact on a team's defense. I don't necessarily have any data to support this, I guess maybe you can point to DPM of some of our favorite starting PF candidates (Collins, PJ, Santi) all being about +1 whereas backup center Goga is almost +2 in this regard. That's a very, very imperfect way of visualizing this, so this is more of an assertion than statement of fact.

2. While it's easy to say that backup C is only responsible for 15 minutes a game, I think that we've seen enough of this coaching staff to know that they're going to bubble wrap Wemby. It's almost expected that he miss 10-15 games over the course of the season for minor ailments, maladies, etc and I honestly don't expect him to average much more than 32-33 minutes per game over the course of the season, so that when you account for Wemby's missed time, it probably comes out to more like 20 minutes per game. While the starting PF is likely to get more minutes, the gap is smaller than it appears.

[Ice009]

I was just about to say: you know what would be funny? If the Spurs view Yabusele as a C and not a PF and he's their big aquisiton to fix the back up C role :lol

Still weird that he just moved into a new spot in Philly though

What about that tweet you posted in the other thread about Yabusele? You think that means anything or not really. Sounds like they were talking about the season and not now. Maybe he is open to leaving.

I'm getting a little concerned about not hearing anything in regard to centers so far in the offseason. I know it's still early, but would have liked to have heard something by now. Surely the Spurs are not going to do that to Victor by not signing a decent center to help him out?

[TimmyBuckets]

Yabu would be a decent backup big honestly.

[SpursFan86]

Too much mention of Yabusele to the Spurs to not think this has been in the works for a while (probably since the 76ers jumped to 3, making it highly unlikely they'd be able to retain him).

I like it if it's in conjunction with a consolidation trade to clean up and make sense of the roster. If it's with the intent of just being the primary backup C, I hate it.

Yep. It would be seriously worrisome if they bring him on to be the full-time backup C. As a PF and maybe someone to play very occasional spot minutes at the C…then I’m totally down with it.

[BatManu20]

Keldon getting minutes at the 4 again would be a nightmare. We've seen that movie before and it was a disaster. Every time.

[Trueblood]

Some of y’all got some big dreams for sure. I personally don’t want to see us use any FRP’s to trade right now. I don’t think there’s anyone available that moves the needle enough for us to be contenders. Yabusele would be a good addition because he wouldn’t cost us anything to get and he’s got a proven track record playing alongside Wemby. He’s strong enough to guard opposing 5’s which I believe is the biggest reason Wemby doesn’t like playing center. HB isn’t a solid rebounder but he’s one of the few on the floor that can shoot. I say pick up Yab then put Keldon, Devin, Wesley, and Branham on the block. Attach whatever SRP’s we need to from the war chest to bring in shooters and a couple bigs.

The real problem there is what to do with Sochan? He’s skilled enough to hold onto but his lack of shooting limits the time he can be on the floor with Wemby. In this scenario he would really need to move to the bench and slot in at the 3 for the second unit.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939116027213918544

[Ice009]

I was taking a look at Mattias Lessort. Looks like he fractured two bones in his right lower leg at the end of last year (Dec. 19th), but also, he's extended his contract (Dec. 31st) until 2028 with his current Euroleague team Panathinaikos.
His draft rights were traded to the Wizards Feb. 2025, so I'm not sure what the Wizards are going to do with him. Since they seem to like French players just as much as the Spurs, I can see them wanting to try and bring him over themselves (if he wants to come over that is).

[The Truth #6]

Would love to see more IG stories about Keldon's weight change. This season he's a power forward! He's gained 35 pounds this offseason and doing everything the front office asks of him! Sort of like a method actor thing.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1939119202809639070

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1939119533966663889

[Mugen]

Lakers need more of a rim running center, i dont think BroLo would be a good fit there tbh. But he's from the west coast and would still start so I could see the appeal.

[Mugen]

Keldon getting minutes would be a nightmare. We've seen that movie before and it was a disaster. Every time.

[BatManu20]

Lol true. Keldon at any position isn't ideal. He's just especially terrible (and small) at the 4.

[BatManu20]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1939119202809639070

Posted earlier but sounds like the C's are trying to move Simons so that they can retain both Horford and Kornet. Whether they can find someone to take on his contract is another story, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved for that reason as he plays no defense and therefor doesn't fit into Boston's rotation.

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[Mugen]

Should hit up Joe Dumars down in the bayou tbh

[timtonymanu]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939116027213918544

Can’t believe he’s still playing 15 years later after we had him.

[mystargtr34]

Good to hear the Spurs interest in Kornet. Hes my number 1 option as backup C, elite rim protection defensive metrics. I think the Celtics retain him though. Spurs may need to use big chunk of the MLE to get him.

BroLo would be my second option. Has regressed defensively a bit the last couple years but can still provide some rim protection and spaces the floor. I think the Warriors can offer him a starting role though. Not sure about the Lakers fit unless it’s as a backup to a rim running C like Gafford or Claxton via trade.

Capela is my third option.

Portis fourth.

[mystargtr34]

Can’t believe he’s still playing 15 years later after we had him.

I was about to say I still remember how excited spurstalk got about Temple back in 2009 lol that team was so old and unathletic any youth or athleticism was just shocking to see.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939134526279623109

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939135500595667163

[timtonymanu]

Jones for Jones

[Mr. Body]

Thunder sent out five future SRPs to acquire Jones last year, now use a SRP to get rid of him.

[mystargtr34]

Interesting OKC gave up on last years FRP already. Suppose that’s what happens when you have so many picks and limited roster spots.

[CGD]

Thunder sent out five future SRPs to acquire Jones last year, now use a SRP to get rid of him.

The kicker is that the Wizards were the ones to originally draft Jones before shipping him out. That, and WAS hired a long time OKC FO guy as their GM in 2023. Definitely some familiarity there.

[mystargtr34]

Bobby Marks free agency piece today makes mention of the possibility (just his opinion) of Brooklyn signing Santi Aldama to a 2/$40M offer sheet. Even though Brooklyn is in tank mode, Santi is probably young enough that that move makes some sense, but I think Brooklyn will use their space to take on one or two bad contracts with draft picks rather than going for players who will help them win.

[BatManu20]

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[scott]

I don't necessarily feel that strongly about it, but I do have two points to consider when using minutes to determine whether to prioritize starting PF vs backup center:

1. I think the drop-off from a good rim protector/rebounder over one of our 4s masquerading as true center is more significant than the drop-off between any of the starting PF trade/FA candidates that we have over what we already have. Just like high quality initiators have an outsized impact on a team's offensive value, true centers have an outsized impact on a team's defense. I don't necessarily have any data to support this, I guess maybe you can point to DPM of some of our favorite starting PF candidates (Collins, PJ, Santi) all being about +1 whereas backup center Goga is almost +2 in this regard. That's a very, very imperfect way of visualizing this, so this is more of an assertion than statement of fact.

2. While it's easy to say that backup C is only responsible for 15 minutes a game, I think that we've seen enough of this coaching staff to know that they're going to bubble wrap Wemby. It's almost expected that he miss 10-15 games over the course of the season for minor ailments, maladies, etc and I honestly don't expect him to average much more than 32-33 minutes per game over the course of the season, so that when you account for Wemby's missed time, it probably comes out to more like 20 minutes per game. While the starting PF is likely to get more minutes, the gap is smaller than it appears.

Both good points (and would have been a valid case for drafting a C), and largely I think it really doesn't matter which one we truly "prioritize" because we should have the flexibility to significantly address both. We don't have to sacrifice one for the other.

For example, if we want Santi, then we can get him (assuming the reports about MEM wanting to sign and trade him are true, and assuming Santi wants to come here) - and we can also offer Kornet as much of the MLE as it takes to bring him here. Then you bring back Bassey if the staff isn't ready to give up on that project, some other young C, or someone like Bizmack for that emergency depth. That would still leave us with at least one roster spot (because someone would have to go out to bring Santi in the aforementioned S&T) to bring back someone like Mamu.

I think you made great points about which is the larger priority (especially that Wemby is likely to miss some games, so this isn't just a 15 mpg guy we need at C, it's someone who can start a handful of games as well), but at the end of the day... it doesn't really matter. Both are priorities and we aren't in a position where we have to address one at the expense of the other. We should take care of both. If the Spurs like Santi, then they can get a "long term" (in NBA contract context) solution... if they don't, and they prefer to maintain flexibility going forward at looking at the PF position, then someone like Collins (on an expiring) or Yabu (relatively cheap) might make more sense. The Spurs have the flexibility to go either direction and I hope they do, but that's based on my personal preference of how they should address the situation. They very well may have a preference towards forcing smaller wing forwards to play PF going forward.

[scott]

Would love to see more IG stories about Keldon's weight change. This season he's a power forward! He's gained 35 pounds this offseason and doing everything the front office asks of him! Sort of like a method actor thing.

On a personal level... it can't be good for Keldon to constantly go through these massive swings in weight, can it? It's not like he just adds weight by getting fat or sheds it by shooting ozempic... he's putting on/shedding real athlete pounds on when he does this and it can't be easy for him.

[MannyIsGod]

Before hiring Carter Bryant, this was an option. But it is not anymore. The Spurs need a backup C and /or a stretch PF. Not 3 and D wings.

Uh the NBA champs just won with a roster full of 3 and d wings So did the previous one for that matter.

[mystargtr34]

Can definitely see Capela to Lakers. Good fit with Luka as rim runner and vertical spacer.

Will be annoying if it’s Kornet back to Celtics, BroLo to Warriors and Capela to Lakers.

[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

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This is why i think a reasonable backup center can be had for the BAE which is about 1 mil less than the MLE

[Mr. Body]

It's "everyone is going to the Lakers" season.

[mystargtr34]

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/pistons-teams-with-full-mid-level-exception-interested-in-santi-aldama/

Zach Lowe:

“Zach Lowe: “Because Santi Aldama has full mid-level deals, I think, waiting for him. At least that’s the scuttlebutt I’ve heard: that he is sought after enough by a team like Detroit, for instance, with the full mid-level. There’s a lot of teams with the full mid-level. He’s an interesting kind of combination of skills, and I think they’re going to have to pay to retain him. And when you have full mid-level deals, if you do in the open market, your incumbent team might have to pay a little bit more than that using your bird rights to do it, and then they’d have the salary cap room exception on top of that.”

[T Park]

So the Lakers are gonna get Lopez AND Capela?

[TimmyBuckets]

If Mamu's gone then Yabu's a decent replacement. Kornet would be great too. Would be 2 good acquisitions.

[mystargtr34]

So the Lakers are gonna get Lopez AND Capela?

I was thinking that too. Might be a good option for them to have solid 48 mins at C but not sure both those guys would want that.

Lakers have the BAE and I think the taxpayer MLE. Not sure if they can get under the tax and have the full MLE.

I feel like the BAE is so cheap for either Capela or Lopez. I could see both guys easily getting $10M per from multiple teams.

[T Park]

If Mamu's gone then Yabu's a decent replacement. Kornet would be great too. Would be 2 good acquisitions.

Mamu should be gone anyways

[TimmyBuckets]

Mamu should be gone anyways

Why?

[Cabrito]

Maybe we should pick up Colby Jones off waivers and let him compete with both Branham and Wesley. May the best two survive and cut the weak link. Jones is a better defender than Branham so I think it would be an interesting get. Yes we will be on the hook for a salary but the Spurs aren’t anywhere near the tax line. None of the salaries are huge and the Spurs have eaten larger salaries before.

[Robz4000]

Starting to feel like the Spurs are comfortable just running back Biyombo as the backup C/third string C behind Sochan.

[onechance87]

Starting to feel like the Spurs are comfortable just running back Biyombo as the backup C/third string C behind Sochan.

with bassey as well.No way they dont try to improve.

[Robz4000]

with bassey as well.No way they dont try to improve.

I'm fine bringing him back for the minimum as the third string C, but not for any significant role unless he earns it.

[RC_Drunkford]

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if that's all they can offer, we can easily outbid them with 14.1 million available in MLE money

[RC_Drunkford]

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[venitian navigator]

Considering Yabusele looks like re signing with Philly, Im under the impression FO could re sign the last year's bigs and call it a season...Mamu, Bismark and Bassey already know the system, are the cheaper options possible and their value is not that lower than the one of other free agents effectively available in the actual market...

[Sugus]

I really hope the Spurs can get Kornet, but most of all, hope the Lakers don't get their hands on him. Fuck them getting even more help on top of getting Luka for peanuts.

[Dejounte]

I say that if the Spurs are able to steal Kornet, they will be contenders this upcoming season. I don’t care how bad our PF rotation is perceived to be— our hole at backup C is the worst. No roster is perfect. It may just take Carter to develop into a starting PF by year 2 or 3. Then, all we will need by then are quality backups at every position.

[RC_Drunkford]

ain't Kornet from Dallas and managed by Tim Duncan's former agent? That should be a plus

[Dejounte]

Looney is the same age as Kornet and frankly I’m not sure why he isn’t coveted more unless there’s an injury he had that I don’t know about. I wouldn’t mind Looney at all as the backup C.

[Raven]

some are suggesting they will resign bustombo.. chilling

[CGD]

If the spurs can grab Kornett and Dean Wade, id be happy

[mo7888]

For you guys that are studied up on the cap, how much salary can we take back if we package Malaki and Wesley? More specifically, how much can we save a team thats over the cap?

[CGD]

For you guys that are studied up on the cap, how much salary can we take back if we package Malaki and Wesley? More specifically, how much can we save a team thats over the cap?

According to a quick search but someone should check. Bottom line those contract seem quite valuable for rounding out the roster (e.g. S&Ts for Kornet, Jerome, Wade come to mind):

For teams above the first apron:

Starting in the 2024 offseason, teams above either tax apron will be limited to taking back only 100% of their outgoing salary.


For teams below both tax aprons:

200% of outgoing salary (plus $250K) for amounts up to $7,500,000: If the outgoing salary is relatively low, teams can take back double the outgoing salary plus an extra $250,000.

Outgoing salary plus $7.5MM for amounts between $7,500,001 and $29,000,000: A wider range of outgoing salaries allows for a larger return.

125% of outgoing salary (plus $250K) for amounts above $29,000,000: For larger outgoing salaries, the limit is 125% of the outgoing salary plus an additional $250,000.

[vander]

Silver needs to find a way to get Jokic to LA. In these trying times, humanity (USA) needs to see Doncic and Jokic play together.

[RC_Drunkford]

For you guys that are studied up on the cap, how much salary can we take back if we package Malaki and Wesley? More specifically, how much can we save a team thats over the cap?

from what I know, if we waive all cap holds (not sure about the rookie cap holds) one of Branham/Wesley can get us back a contract around 15 million. Like Santi Aldama on 16/17/18/19 4-year deal can be traded to the Spurs for Branham.

[BatManu20]

if that's all they can offer, we can easily outbid them with 14.1 million available in MLE money

Lakers can offer him a starting position though. He may value that more, though that'd be a lot of money to leave on the table if PATFO do indeed offer him something in that vicinity.

[BatManu20]

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[ace3g]

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1939315421569814848

[Raven]

For you guys that are studied up on the cap, how much salary can we take back if we package Malaki and Wesley? More specifically, how much can we save a team thats over the cap?

enough to sign someone in italy's second league

[BatManu20]

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[ace3g]

If Spurs are looking for a backup Center - Kevon Looney.

[Leetonidas]

Kornet would be a solid backup C. Looney not so much, maybe 4 years ago

[mo7888]

from what I know, if we waive all cap holds (not sure about the rookie cap holds) one of Branham/Wesley can get us back a contract around 15 million. Like Santi Aldama on 16/17/18/19 4-year deal can be traded to the Spurs for Branham.

Can we combine Wesley and Branham to take back a bigger number if we wanted?

[RC_Drunkford]

Can we combine Wesley and Branham to take back a bigger number if we wanted?

yes. Although in my scenario we'd be under the cap. I assume we gonna operate over the cap, to have the MLE available. I think in that case we can take back around 17 million for Branham + Wesley

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol @ people saying we should give Sochan 20 million per year

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[SpursBills]

Looney's underrated still and he's a decent backup option for lower salary if Spurs can't get Kornet. The biggest thing with Kornet is that he's got some promise of playing with Wemby.

In a very small sample size of 203 minutes over the last two seasons, Kornet/Porzingis is +25/100 (Porzingis alone +8.7, Kornet alone +12.8, no Porzingis/Kornet +7.8 in many more minutes)

Looking at his impact with Horford: Horford alone +9.5, Kornet alone +14.3, no Horford/Kornet +6.4, Horford/Kornet +12.3

So it seems like even though his primary role would be as a backup big, there is an avenue toward more minutes by playing him together with Wemby and at the very least not be a net negative

Of course, this is with Boston's 5 out spacing, but I think there is enough signal there to support the notion that Kornet could be an excellent fit on this team both with and without Wemby

https://i.postimg.cc/wvXWJt6T/Kornet.jpg

[onechance87]

Looney's underrated still and he's a decent backup option for lower salary if Spurs can't get Kornet. The biggest thing with Kornet is that he's got some promise of playing with Wemby.

In a very small sample size of 203 minutes over the last two seasons, Kornet/Porzingis is +25/100 (Porzingis alone +8.7, Kornet alone +12.8, no Porzingis/Kornet +7.8 in many more minutes)

Looking at his impact with Horford: Horford alone +9.5, Kornet alone +14.3, no Horford/Kornet +6.4, Horford/Kornet +12.3

So it seems like even though his primary role would be as a backup big, there is an avenue toward more minutes by playing him together with Wemby and at the very least not be a net negative

Of course, this is with Boston's 5 out spacing, but I think there is enough signal there to support the notion that Kornet could be an excellent fit on this team both with and without Wemby

https://i.postimg.cc/wvXWJt6T/Kornet.jpg

I heard enough...Sign this man right now wright

[LeBowen]

Kornet is easily the best free agent C, it's not even close.
Others are either on a serious decline or were never good enough to begin with.

Kornet is a really smart player, good short roll passer with high basketball IQ. He obviously has quickness issues due to his size, but you can always count on him to make the best decision on both ends of the floor.
Something we sorely need after all these years of low IQ basketball.

[BatManu20]

Yea Kornet is easily my #1 FA target. He impressed me last season, especially in the Playoffs. And while they'd likely mostly stagger minutes, jumbo lineups with both he and Wemby on the floor together is really intriguing. Just don't think the C's are going to let him walk. They're in a tight situation with their cap though so we'll see. All hinges on their ability to trade Simons and get his contract off the books. If the Spurs can somehow lock him up, it'd be an A+ offseason tbh.

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[LeBowen]

Yea Kornet is easily my #1 FA target. He impressed me last season, especially in the Playoffs. And while they'd likely mostly stagger minutes, jumbo lineups with both he and Wemby on the floor together is really intriguing. Just don't think the C's are going to let him walk. They're in a tight situation with their cap though so we'll see. All hinges on their ability to trade Simons and get his contract off the books. If the Spurs can somehow lock him up, it'd be an A+ offseason tbh.

From what I've read most Celtics fans think he's gone, similar to how Spurs lost their role players that went elsewhere to get paid.
Although he might be willing to stay in Boston for less money because he'd likely be the starter in the upcoming season.


Lebron picked up his option, wasting another year of Luka's prime on a first round exit. Nice.

[Bruno]

I like Presti spending all of OKC money into keeping together a team that is far from being great. When a true good team (hopefully Spurs) will challenge them, I expect them to fold easily.

[BatManu20]

From what I've read most Celtics fans think he's gone, similar to how Spurs lost their role players that went elsewhere to get paid.
Although he might be willing to stay in Boston for less money because he'd likely be the starter in the upcoming season.


Lebron picked up his option, wasting another year of Luka's prime on a first round exit. Nice. ​

Which makes mouthpiece stuff like this from Shams all the more hilarious. It's Kobe at the end of his career all over again. He wants to compete for Championships but refuses to make the sacrifices necessary to build a Championship contender.

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[Ice009]

Hey Bruno, while your here, I was looking at Mathias Lessort yesterday or the day before. Do you think he'd be a good fit, or not really?

It seems he had a lower leg fracture and has re-signed for 3 years with his Euroleague team. Any idea how he is physically and if he has any interest to coming to the NBA? I see the Wizards also acquired his draft rights. Have they been trying to bring him in?

What are your thoughts on Yabusele? Do you think he's a possibility for the Spurs?

I wouldn't be getting both Luke Kornet and also Guerschon. I think those two would be great additions.

[Bruno]

If I'm Wright, I'm offering a 2 years full MLE to Capela or Lopez at the start of the FA period.

Kornet might be a good option but he will likely ask for a longer contract which I don't like.

[Jordan Jackson]

On a positive note, LeBron continues to be a blight on the Lakers. Picking up that option at the same time claiming he wants to compete for championships. That’s some nasty work.

I don’t like however, that the Spurs will probably be competing with the Lakers over the limited center prospects available in free agency.

Front office goal should be about protecting Wemby’s body, as best they can, from taking a nightly beating by opposing bigs.

[LeBowen]

[Charania] BREAKING: The U.S. District Attorney’s office is investigating Detroit Pistons guard Malik Beasley on allegations of gambling related to NBA games and prop bets, sources told ESPN. Serious development surrounding one of the top NBA free agents.


Some people are just retards and there's no helping it.

[Degoat]

If I'm Wright, I'm offering a 2 years full MLE to Capela or Lopez at the start of the FA period.

Kornet might be a good option but he will likely ask for a longer contract which I don't like.

I fully agree with this, I’d rather have one of those two guys tbh, I like Kornet and think he’d be a nice add too, but is he that much better than Zach Collins was last year? I don’t see a huge difference

[BatManu20]

What an absolute dumbass if true. Dude was about to get a bag from Detroit. Now he might be banned from the league altogether.

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[BatManu20]

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[Splits]

I like Presti spending all of OKC money into keeping together a team that is far from being great. When a true good team (hopefully Spurs) will challenge them, I expect them to fold easily.

They're going to have 90% of their cap tied up in 3 players in 2 years. Add in Caruso at ~11.5%, now Jaylin Williams with another 5%, Joe ~7%, Wiggins 6% that's already 7 players at ~120%.

Cap hell is soon unless Shai/Chet/Jalen give discounts on their maxes.

[Degoat]

If I'm Wright, I'm offering a 2 years full MLE to Capela or Lopez at the start of the FA period.

Kornet might be a good option but he will likely ask for a longer contract which I don't like.

I fully agree with this, I’d rather have one of those two guys tbh, I like Kornet and think he’d be a nice add too, but is he that much better than Zach Collins was last year? I don’t see a huge difference

[SpursFan86]

I fully agree with this, I’d rather have one of those two guys tbh, I like Kornet and think he’d be a nice add too, but is he that much better than Zach Collins was last year? I don’t see a huge difference

They’re totally different players. Kornet would be 10x more impactful than Collins. Collins is an awful defender and offers little to no rim protection.

[BatManu20]

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[Splits]

Kornet made $2m last year. Sure he showed he's worth more but the full non-tax MLE? I don't think so

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Kornet made $2m last year. Sure he showed he's worth more but the full non-tax MLE? I don't think so

He’ll easily get it unless he takes a paycut for staying in Boston. Charlotte, among others, have a starting position and 35 mpg for him.

[BatManu20]

DFS would be a significant loss for the Lakers. He's one of the few guys on that roster that actually defends.

[LeBowen]

Kornet made $2m last year. Sure he showed he's worth more but the full non-tax MLE? I don't think so

He's the only reliable rim protector who isn't washed.
I'd easily offer him 28/2, it's not like we'll have cap issues.


Lakers are fucked if DFS leaves, they have to keep him.

[onechance87]

Kornet made $2m last year. Sure he showed he's worth more but the full non-tax MLE? I don't think so

guess will see.

[SpursFan86]

Sorry if this was posted before (embedded tweets don’t show up half the time on this shitty site :lol )…but Spurs tendered qualifying 2-way offers to both Ingram and Minix per Keith Smith.

[BatManu20]

Lebron about to demand a trade back to CLE to finish his career. Or another contender. Which would surprise no one.

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[Bruno]

Hey Bruno, while your here, I was looking at Mathias Lessort yesterday or the day before. Do you think he'd be a good fit, or not really?

It seems he had a lower leg fracture and has re-signed for 3 years with his Euroleague team. Any idea how he is physically and if he has any interest to coming to the NBA? I see the Wizards also acquired his draft rights. Have they been trying to bring him in?

What are your thoughts on Yabusele? Do you think he's a possibility for the Spurs?

I wouldn't be getting both Luke Kornet and also Guerschon. I think those two would be great additions.

Lessort came back from his leg injury to play a couple of games during the Euroleague final 4 and will play with FNT this summer. I don't know if he has lost some athleticism with this injury, we'll see this summer. From what I've read, his new contract in Europe hasn't a NBA buyout until 2027. It seems highly unlikely he will go to the NBA this summer.
Lessort is a fun and likable player and I think he could have been a good NBA backup C despite his lack of size. Playing in the NBA was his dream but he seems destined to stay in Europe. It is fine for him because he has a great thing going with his team in Greece.

Yabusele if fine as PF and not as undersized C like with Sixers last season. I like him for Spurs if they do a trade for a backup center that includes Barnes or Keldon. Otherwise, I fear signing him will create a logjam of, good but not great, players at the forward spots.

[LeBowen]

Lebron about to demand a trade back to CLE to finish his career. Or another contender. Which would surprise no one.

Cavs are over second apron, they can't trade for him.

Incoming Keldon/Barnes/Vassell for Lebron offer, tbh.

[Ice009]

If I'm Wright, I'm offering a 2 years full MLE to Capela or Lopez at the start of the FA period.

Kornet might be a good option but he will likely ask for a longer contract which I don't like.

They've already given Lopez's jersey number to Carter Bryant, so I'd assume the Spurs won't be going after him, or do you think that doesn't mean anything?

[scottspurs]

My first instinct is LeBron to warriors for Kuminga and pieces

[scottspurs]

The Rich Paul quotes sound like a trade request to me

[BatManu20]

Cavs are over second apron, they can't trade for him.

Incoming Keldon/Barnes/Vassell for Lebron offer, tbh.

In my head I was thinking, "Fuck Lebron, but damn he would actually fit really nicely at the 4 beside Wemby" :lol. But I don't see it as a realistic option tbh, especially with PATFO repeatedly telling us they're "not going to skip steps" and the Spurs not really partaking in blockbuster trades like this.

Edit*: Keldon/Vassell/Barnes for Lebron/Reaves/Vanderbilt does work money-wise though tbh. :stirpot:

[Bruno]

They've already given Lopez's jersey number to Carter Bryant, so I'd assume the Spurs won't be going after him, or do you think that doesn't mean anything?

I think it means nothing, especially since Spurs aren't officially allowed to talk to Lopez right now. Saying to Carter Bryant not to take Lopez's number would be half admitting that Spurs are doing some tampering.

[scott]

Looney's underrated still and he's a decent backup option for lower salary if Spurs can't get Kornet. The biggest thing with Kornet is that he's got some promise of playing with Wemby.

In a very small sample size of 203 minutes over the last two seasons, Kornet/Porzingis is +25/100 (Porzingis alone +8.7, Kornet alone +12.8, no Porzingis/Kornet +7.8 in many more minutes)

Looking at his impact with Horford: Horford alone +9.5, Kornet alone +14.3, no Horford/Kornet +6.4, Horford/Kornet +12.3

So it seems like even though his primary role would be as a backup big, there is an avenue toward more minutes by playing him together with Wemby and at the very least not be a net negative

Of course, this is with Boston's 5 out spacing, but I think there is enough signal there to support the notion that Kornet could be an excellent fit on this team both with and without Wemby

https://i.postimg.cc/wvXWJt6T/Kornet.jpg

Ohhhhh a new tool… which app is this?

[RC_Drunkford]

Hope LeBron stays in LA. He should keep holding that franchise back from building a competitive roster. If it was up to me he should play there until he's 50 and earn the max every year.

[BatManu20]

The Rich Paul quotes sound like a trade request to me

Very much so. All this "ring" talk in the media the past couple weeks is getting to Lebron. First he and Steve Nash do a podcast about how he's frustrated that Championships play such a major part in player's legacies, then a week later he's "leaking" trade requests. He knows he'll never surpass Jordan as the GOAT unless he wins at least one more. He has no reason to leave the Lakers other than this insecurity. He loves living in LA, his family loves it there, and that entire franchise caters to him. He wants one more and he know the clock is ticking.

[Dejounte]

Sorry if this was posted before (embedded tweets don’t show up half the time on this shitty site :lol )…but Spurs tendered qualifying 2-way offers to both Ingram and Minix per Keith Smith.

Sounds like David Duke is gone then

[scottspurs]

Sounds like David Duke is gone then

Yeah so by my count 3 roster spots and 1 two-way spot available

[scott]

I just hope the Spurs make good use of the MLE and BAE, and not just resign Mamu, Bassey and Bismarck (none of which should even command the BAE, all are vet min guys)

[ace3g]

https://x.com/Sportando/status/1938704258989166773

[MannyIsGod]

If I'm Wright, I'm offering a 2 years full MLE to Capela or Lopez at the start of the FA period.

Kornet might be a good option but he will likely ask for a longer contract which I don't like.

I was leaning Kornet but this is a really good point. Spurs should highly value flexibility moving forward.

[MannyIsGod]

They're going to have 90% of their cap tied up in 3 players in 2 years. Add in Caruso at ~11.5%, now Jaylin Williams with another 5%, Joe ~7%, Wiggins 6% that's already 7 players at ~120%.

Cap hell is soon unless Shai/Chet/Jalen give discounts on their maxes.

Eventually we're going to get to a point where the money is going to dry up for a lot of players because of the CBA. I don't know how long it will take, but once more teams get tied up like that then it's hard to envision how everyone gets paid.

[SpursBills]

Ohhhhh a new tool… which app is this?

https://databallr.com/

[BatManu20]

1939334254439129271

1939333482746118264

[Dejounte]

https://databallr.com/
That is a really well done website. If you guys give me ideas I can build one too scott

[scott]

Eventually we're going to get to a point where the money is going to dry up for a lot of players because of the CBA. I don't know how long it will take, but once more teams get tied up like that then it's hard to envision how everyone gets paid.

100%, but I’d say OKC is following a model that best equips them for dealing with this (and this will happen to all teams who are both very good and deep… we’re already seeing how that has impacted Denver, and now the tearing down of BOS has begun).

OKC’s strategy for dealing with this is the one I hope we take - fill the pipeline with players and picks to backfill the guys you lose, and actively move guys right before they get really expensive. Cason Wallace is a good example of this, IMO - a guy who will be extension eligible next summer and has really shown out in his role, to the point where teams might view him as someone willing to take on a bigger role. I think OKC should look to move him now (while his contract is cheap and easy to absorb for another team) getting back picks. Then the cycle just repeats. I think Joe and Wiggins are guys similarly situated on OKC’s roster. This will allow them to keep their big 3 and just keep rebuilding the team around them with first round talent on staggered rookie deals.

It’s a really smart approach by OKC, but it requires not getting too attached to your “glue guys”. Brian Wright has shown the fortitude in the past to part with team and fan favorites Dejounte and Derrick… but that was in a different context. He’ll need to be willing to do the same on a team that is actually winning. Spurs fans get easily attached to players (we’re the first team in history to miss the playoffs 6 years in a row but have a roster full of untouchable players according to casual Spurs fans), so the Presti approach might be tough to swallow. I can just see the posts on Spurs Reddit/Twitter now: “THE SPURS ARE GOING TO REGRET LETTING GO OF KELDON!!!” :lol We’re fortunate with the level of discourse here on ST… because everywhere else it’s mind numbingly homerish :lol

[LeBowen]

I'm feeling optmistic today and I'll say that if we can get Yabusele for BAE and Kornet for MLE, we'd be just one trade away from a legit playoff roster.
That trade being an upgrade to a new starting PF with some of the friendship crew members.

[exstatic]

Some people are just retards and there's no helping it.

Everyone always thinks they can get away with it, having not paid attention to the likes of Dollar Tree Porter, where they basically OUTLINED how they caught him. He was on a two way. Beasley might be the first legit NBA player to been ended over this. With as much heat as sports are taking over gambling sponsorship,there will be zero leniency.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1939365822452933071

[Ice009]

I'm feeling optmistic today and I'll say that if we can get Yabusele for BAE and Kornet for MLE, we'd be just one trade away from a legit playoff roster.
That trade being an upgrade to a new starting PF with some of the friendship crew members.

That is what I am calling for on the previous page (Kornet & Yabusele), but your addition weould put it over the top (trading friendship crew members for a PF). Id like John Collins if that were to happen.

[Mr. Body]

I'm feeling optmistic today and I'll say that if we can get Yabusele for BAE and Kornet for MLE, we'd be just one trade away from a legit playoff roster.
That trade being an upgrade to a new starting PF with some of the friendship crew members.

Probably second round threat with those two, much less playoffs.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939374267789168854

[LeBowen]

Probably second round threat with those two, much less playoffs.

I expect Wemby to blow us all away with his progress, he surely focused on improving his shot during his contact practice restriction.
He was on top5 player in the league level last December, if he can be consistently on that level, I'm not scared of any team.

I also expect a big season from Fox, he's got a lot to prove.

[dubross]

https://x.com/mikeascotto/status/1939371255733305723?s=46&t=R_sceQ4efZTX7nQnRN92Cw

[Spurs Brazil]

Sounds like David Duke is gone then

I think Duke can't sign two-way contracts anymore. Next year he'll have more than 4 years of NBA experience

[Bruno]

Another factor with Kornet is the 2028 swap Spurs have with Celtics.

Even if it's in 3 years, hurting Celtics by taking Kornet or by forcing them to give him a big contract, isn't a bad idea.

[exstatic]

100%, but I’d say OKC is following a model that best equips them for dealing with this (and this will happen to all teams who are both very good and deep… we’re already seeing how that has impacted Denver, and now the tearing down of BOS has begun).

OKC’s strategy for dealing with this is the one I hope we take - fill the pipeline with players and picks to backfill the guys you lose, and actively move guys right before they get really expensive. Cason Wallace is a good example of this, IMO - a guy who will be extension eligible next summer and has really shown out in his role, to the point where teams might view him as someone willing to take on a bigger role. I think OKC should look to move him now (while his contract is cheap and easy to absorb for another team) getting back picks. Then the cycle just repeats. I think Joe and Wiggins are guys similarly situated on OKC’s roster. This will allow them to keep their big 3 and just keep rebuilding the team around them with first round talent on staggered rookie deals.

It’s a really smart approach by OKC, but it requires not getting too attached to your “glue guys”. Brian Wright has shown the fortitude in the past to part with team and fan favorites Dejounte and Derrick… but that was in a different context. He’ll need to be willing to do the same on a team that is actually winning. Spurs fans get easily attached to players (we’re the first team in history to miss the playoffs 6 years in a row but have a roster full of untouchable players according to casual Spurs fans), so the Presti approach might be tough to swallow. I can just see the posts on Spurs Reddit/Twitter now: “THE SPURS ARE GOING TO REGRET LETTING GO OF KELDON!!!” :lol We’re fortunate with the level of discourse here on ST… because everywhere else it’s mind numbingly homerish :lol

Both DJ and Derrick had Spurs playoff experience. They weren’t a part of the tank.

[mo7888]

yes. Although in my scenario we'd be under the cap. I assume we gonna operate over the cap, to have the MLE available. I think in that case we can take back around 17 million for Branham + Wesley

Thank you

[ace3g]

https://x.com/YossiGozlan/status/1939371588077625746

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939383131053711620

[Degoat]

I’d be in on Duncan Robinson tbh

[Dejounte]

These tweets dont load as well anymore. I have to refresh like ten times

[TimDunkem]

KAW, please.

[DAF86]

Duncan Robinson has to be a Spur at some point, he just has to.

[SpursFan86]

These tweets dont load as well anymore. I have to refresh like ten times

Driving me insane. Just constantly see blank posts and I don’t know whether it’s some huge blockbuster trade or just some random scrub getting his team option picked up :lol

[DAF86]

I propose everyone that uploads a tweet, just writes a line below saying what it is about.

[Davidicus]

I propose everyone that uploads a tweet, just writes a line below saying what it is about.

Plus the text link

[Davidicus]

Plus the text link

Example:

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939371255733305723

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939371255733305723

Michael Scotto
MikeAScotto
Sources: Pistons gauging trade market on Simone Fontecchio (expiring $8.3M). With Malik Beasley's gambling investigation, Kings to pursue Dennis Schroder, if DET loses Tim Hardaway Jr, & a Fontecchio trade, DET may create $24M in space to pursue Nickeil Alexander-Walker & others.

[Dejounte]

Example:

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939371255733305723

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939371255733305723

Michael Scotto
Mike (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)AScotto
Sources: Pistons gauging trade market on Simone Fontecchio (expiring $8.3M). With Malik Beasley's gambling investigation, Kings to pursue Dennis Schroder, if DET loses Tim Hardaway Jr, & a Fontecchio trade, DET may create $24M in space to pursue Nickeil Alexander-Walker & others.

^ fyi please BatManu20 ace3g RC_Drunkford

[Seventyniner]

Duncan Robinson has to be a Spur at some point, he just has to.

And he has to wear jersey #71.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
13m
Duncan Robinson declined his $20M early termination option for free agency. He can return to Miami on a new deal, sign elsewhere, or be part of a sign-&-trade. As I’ve reported on Hoopshype
, Miami is considering a Jonathan Kuminga pursuit, which would need to be a sign-&-trade.

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939389968998138097

[Dejounte]

I think Duke can't sign two-way contracts anymore. Next year he'll have more than 4 years of NBA experience
Since he’s part of the summer league roster i wonder if he has a chance to secure a Champagnie-like contract with us

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
42m
The Chicago Bulls have extended a qualifying offer to two-way player Emanuel Miller, a league source told Hoopshype
. Miller averaged 17.2 points, 7.5 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.2 steals, and 1.1 blocks in the G League for the Texas Legends and Windy City Bulls.

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939383358678831510

[baseline bum]

Considering Yabusele looks like re signing with Philly, Im under the impression FO could re sign the last year's bigs and call it a season...Mamu, Bismark and Bassey already know the system, are the cheaper options possible and their value is not that lower than the one of other free agents effectively available in the actual market...

Thought he was gone because Philly doesn't have the money to pay both he and Grimes and 100% has to bring back the latter.

[baseline bum]

I like Presti spending all of OKC money into keeping together a team that is far from being great. When a true good team (hopefully Spurs) will challenge them, I expect them to fold easily.

68 wins and a title isn't great?

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
23s
New Orleans Pelicans will decline the $3.15 million team option on Elfrid Payton, sources told Hoopshype
. Payton led the NBA in assists per minute this season (.33) per STATmuse
ahead of Trae Young (.32) and Nikola Jokic (.28). Payton is expected to have interest in free agency

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939400854869835821

[ace3g]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
53s
Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939401566940987494

[LeBowen]

Ainge got...fleeced?
If that's Sexton's value, then we better get Collins for a couple of seconds.

[mo7888]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
53s
Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939401566940987494

This one is a little bit of a head scratcher to me from utah's perspective.

[Ice009]

Wow. Spurs fans probably would have been super happy the get Sexton a year and a half go for a similar deal.

[Mr. Body]

Ainge overplayed his hand. But their pick is also protected to eight next year so just giving up.

Hornets have no centers.

[ChumpDumper]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
53s
Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939401566940987494That is a lot of white 7 footers.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

All of these players re-signing on good value deals is a stark contrast compared to previous years. Teams are getting smarter and more cautious. Except for Bulls of course, and maybe a few others.

[baseline bum]

They're going to have 90% of their cap tied up in 3 players in 2 years. Add in Caruso at ~11.5%, now Jaylin Williams with another 5%, Joe ~7%, Wiggins 6% that's already 7 players at ~120%.

Cap hell is soon unless Shai/Chet/Jalen give discounts on their maxes.

Guess they have to hope JDub takes a paycut to a 25% max instead of a 30% supermax and that Holmgren doesn't make the allstar team next year; then they'd be at 84% of the cap for those three in 2027-28 (the 1% savings comes from the difference between the cap going up 10% and their raises being 8% for the deals Jdub and Holmgren sign in 2026-27). Joe is at 6% and is a team option. Wiggins is 4.4% (it's a declining contract). I'm guessing Jaylin Williams is a declining contract too since they're nowhere near the luxury tax for next season, so they probably frontloaded as much as they could in the first two years. Probably breaks down like 8.7/8/7.3 so that's 3.9%. Caruso at 11.1% so you're looking at

SGA + JDub + Holmgren + Williams + Wiggins = 92.3

plus Joe = 98.3

plus Caruso = 109.4

Guessing they have to salary dump Caruso in 26-27 to make room for signing Dort in 27-28. Can't imagine they'd take Caruso over him. With first apron at 126.7% of cap I'm guessing they cut Caruso and sign Dort for 15% of the cap to get them to 113.3%. Topic is 4.0% so that gets them to 117.3%. Sorber 2.7% so now they're right at 120%. Bye bye Cason Wallace, bye bye Hartenstein as no way they can afford either without going into the aprons. So these 9 roster spots should get them to 120% if JDub signs for 25% max:

SGA, JDub, Holmgren, Dort, Sorber, Joe, Topic, Williams, Wiggins

And then 6.7% of the cap (a little more than $12.5 million) to fill out the rest of the roster. Definitely gonna be tough. Maybe they let Dort walk and keep Caruso instead.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
35s
Just In: The Indiana Pacers have exercised their team option on Tony Bradley, which is worth $2.94 million non-guaranteed, league sources told Hoopshype
.

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939404316223177060

[exstatic]

Wow. Spurs fans probably would have been super happy the get Sexton a year and a half go for a similar deal.

A year and a half ago, the price would have been a lot higher.

[Mr. Body]

All of these players re-signing on good value deals is a stark contrast compared to previous years. Teams are getting smarter and more cautious. Except for Bulls of course, and maybe a few others.

The new CBA in action. We'll see what impact it has on Fox.

[DPG21920]

Im going to be very disappointed if Spurs just sign a mediocre old back up center and call it quits. Team has not only a very real need at back up Center, but they didnt address shooting at all which is a big hole too.

They cannot rest on laurels here and just add Harper + CB (who wont play much) + an old back up center. They need to get creative, they need to trade/consolidate and they need to add some shooting on top of a back up center.

Now is not the time to coast even if they also dont need to push all their chips in just to make a big splash.

I was really hoping for something like Keldon for Duncan Robison + 2nd. Spurs add shooting, get a 2nd and get off 2nd year of Keldons deal. Spurs need to be looking at things like that or even Cam Johnson type deals.

Im fine adding Capela or Brook or Kornet, but that cant be it.

Spurs spend MLE on some shooting or a back up big and then try to trade Keldon + Branham + Blake or even Barnes for a more legit back up Center/or shooting

[BacktoBasics]

Im going to be very disappointed if Spurs just sign a mediocre old back up center and call it quits. Team has not only a very real need at back up Center, but they didnt address shooting at all which is a big hole too.

They cannot rest on laurels here and just add Harper + CB (who wont play much) + an old back up center. They need to get creative, they need to trade/consolidate and they need to add some shooting on top of a back up center.

Now is not the time to coast even if they also dont need to push all their chips in just to make a big splash.

I was really hoping for something like Keldon for Duncan Robison + 2nd. Spurs add shooting, get a 2nd and get off 2nd year of Keldons deal. Spurs need to be looking at things like that or even Cam Johnson type deals.

Im fine adding Capela or Brook or Kornet, but that cant be it.

Spurs spend MLE on some shooting or a back up big and then try to trade Keldon + Branham + Blake or even Barnes for a more legit back up Center/or shooting

It is way too early to consolidate picks in any massive way. I agree they need to trade for a big but this team needs to play together for a minute or two. Fox and Wemby haven’t even shared time on the court in any significant way.

They need to evaluate up to the trade deadline.

Not to say they can’t do deals. It’s just not the right time to unload the boat.

[DPG21920]

If UTA is actually open for business and this was price for Sexton, Keldon + Branham + 2nd (to replace one they sent for Nurk) for Collins should work

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
3m
Just In: The Philadelphia 76ers will decline the $2.94 million team option on Lonnie Walker for the 2025-26 season, league sources told Hoopshype
. The 26-year-old averaged 12.4 points in 23.9 minutes over 20 games played for the Sixers. He’s expected to draw free agency interest

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939408715750273505

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
·
12m
Just In: The Golden State Warriors will exercise the $1.96 million team option on Quinten Post, league sources told Hoopshype
. Post averaged 8.1 points, including shooting 40.8 percent from 3-point range, and 3.5 rebounds in 16.3 minutes per game for the Warriors.

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1939407074989052001

[Degoat]

I’d be happy with a Jake Laravia signing, and kick the tires and see if the Grizzlies would be interested in trading Brandon Clarke to us

[scott]

Both DJ and Derrick had Spurs playoff experience. They weren’t a part of the tank.

Trading them was part of the process of tanking (and they were several years removed from their playoff appearances when they were traded). That is the different context.

[spurs10]

Im going to be very disappointed if Spurs just sign a mediocre old back up center and call it quits. Team has not only a very real need at back up Center, but they didnt address shooting at all which is a big hole too.

They cannot rest on laurels here and just add Harper + CB (who wont play much) + an old back up center. They need to get creative, they need to trade/consolidate and they need to add some shooting on top of a back up center.

Now is not the time to coast even if they also dont need to push all their chips in just to make a big splash.

I was really hoping for something like Keldon for Duncan Robison + 2nd. Spurs add shooting, get a 2nd and get off 2nd year of Keldons deal. Spurs need to be looking at things like that or even Cam Johnson type deals.

Im fine adding Capela or Brook or Kornet, but that cant be it.

Spurs spend MLE on some shooting or a back up big and then try to trade Keldon + Branham + Blake or even Barnes for a more legit back up Center/or shooting This sounds right to me. No time to play it safe. MLE for "shooting or back up big, and then make a trade to better improve the team. It's time in Wemby's timeline to get moving....especially while we have Fox to play with him.

[scott]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
53s
Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939401566940987494

One of those rare trades that I can't understand for either team :lol

[ace3g]

Kelly Iko KellyIko
·
2m
The Houston Rockets are waiving forward Jack McVeigh, source tells
@TheAthletic
.

https://x.com/KellyIko/status/1939412679094886422

[LeBowen]

One of those rare trades that I can't understand for either team :lol

Ainge is going for another season of top3 lottery odds.
We should give him a hand, we have the perfect man for the job who guarantees traffic cone defense and inefficent offense.
Keldon could reach the status of tank general in Utah.