2025 NBA Offseason Thread

[BatManu20]

Does "big deals" also include trades? Giannis trade maybe? I wonder what big deals Sham's is referring to.

What day/time is free agency? I thought I read 6pm a week or two. It was always 12:00 July first, wasn't it? So is it now 6pm June 30th?

Giannis ain't going anywhere. He'll waste another year of his prime in Milwaukee this season sadly. I do think he'll request a trade next offseason though, after they inevitably get bounced in the 1st Round again.

[Mugen]

Giannis ain't going anywhere. He'll waste another year of his prime in Milwaukee this season sadly. I do think he'll request a trade next offseason though after they inevitably get bounced in the 1st Round again.

Meh, I respect it tbh. He already has a ring.

[BatManu20]

I think PATFO are playing the long game and saving their assets for the probability of Giannis asking out next season tbh.

[CorrectCrusader]

Just went live.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeHOuGt7Ydc

[LeBowen]

Giannis ain't going anywhere. He'll waste another year of his prime in Milwaukee this season sadly. I do think he'll request a trade next offseason though, after they inevitably get bounced in the 1st Round again. And I think the Spurs are saving their assets for that probability tbh.

It's impossible to please your average NBA fan.
NBA fandom has become all about shitting on everything.

If Giannis left for a legit contender, people would be saying he took the easy path.
He stayed which equals to lack of ambition by those standards.

I'll make a hot take and say Bucks will get a couple of solid role players, Giannis will drag them to 50+ wins and win another MVP.

[Ice009]

Lebron/Bronny for Devin/Keldon/Barnes, tbh.

OK, that would be interesting counter to the KD to Houston move. I'd maybe be on board with that (mostly because it would get rid of two specific players).


I think PATFO are playing the long game and saving their assets for the probability of Giannis asking out next season tbh.

I don't get that, though. Wasn't there talk of not wanting to go for Giannis due to his age now and the assets required to get him? Wouldn't another make that even less of a chance with him being even older. Who would the Spurs even give up for him? The trade this season would have likely been centered around the number 2 pick. I doubt they'd want to trade Dylan (now that he's drafted) for an even older Giannis next season.

[TimDunkem]

^Flipping the turd trio of DV/KJ/HB for any serviceable NBA-level talent would be a win, tbh.

[Seventyniner]

Lebron/Bronny for Devin/Keldon/Barnes, tbh.

I know this is a joke but I'm not laughing. More like knocking on wood and throwing salt over my left shoulder.

[Ice009]

I wonder if DFS heard that Lebron is leaving and if that is a reason that he's decided not to go back to the Lakers himself.

[LeBowen]

^Flipping the turd trio of DV/KJ/HB for any serviceable NBA-level talent would be a win, tbh.

I don't think it's fair to put Barnes in turd category with those two. Sochan definitely gets in there, though.

[LeBowen]

I wonder if DFS heard that Lebron is leaving and if that is a reason that he's decided not to go back to the Lakers himself.

It's pretty obious Lakers can't be a legit contender with Luka and Lebron taking up 65% of the cap space.
Rockets have a way better chance of winning, it's an easy decision, tbh.

[poopbox]

Why would the Lakers let DFS walk tbh?

Nobody want's to play Luka ball if they don't have to

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
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Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a contract buyout with the Utah Jazz, sources tell ESPN. Clarkson will target contending teams for his new home -- with interest from multiple playoff teams already expected.

[Ice009]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
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1m
Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a contract buyout with the Utah Jazz, sources tell ESPN. Clarkson will target contending teams for his new home -- with interest from multiple playoff teams already expected.

Wow. Utah telling their fans they're going to compete and they're buying out players or trading them for little return. Couldn't they trade Clarkson for some sort of return?

[scott]

I hope Giannis retires a Buck. Top 3 player playing his entire career with a small market team (and winning a chip and MVPs) is good for the league (especially from a Spurs fan POV)

[poopbox]

Shams Charania Sham (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17672)sCharania
·
1m
Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a contract buyout with the Utah Jazz, sources tell ESPN. Clarkson will target contending teams for his new home -- with interest from multiple playoff teams already expected.

Sign him so he can stop killing us tbh

[spurraider21]

"its impossible to deal with ainge, he always overvalues his players!"

meaning Utah attached a second round pick to Sexton to acquire Nurkic, taking on a worse player on a slightly higher salary while giving up a pick to do so. now they just waive clarkson

[Leetonidas]

"its impossible to deal with ainge, he always overvalues his players!"

meaning Utah attached a second round pick to Sexton to acquire Nurkic, taking on a worse player on a slightly higher salary while giving up a pick to do so. now they just waive clarkson

Dude overplayed his hand big time last summer and now he has to eat the shit sandwich:lol

[Chinook]

"its impossible to deal with ainge, he always overvalues his players!"

meaning Utah attached a second round pick to Sexton to acquire Nurkic, taking on a worse player on a slightly higher salary while giving up a pick to do so. now they just waive clarkson

I wonder if they're making moves for a Markkanen trade.

[Ocotillo]

Wow. Utah telling their fans they're going to compete and they're buying out players or trading them for little return. Couldn't they trade Clarkson for some sort of return?

I saw a story earlier that Jazz fans are calling for Ainge to be fired. Mostly it was reposting tweets from disgruntled Jazz fans in response the to the Sexton trade.

[Ice009]

I saw a story earlier that Jazz fans are calling for Ainge to be fired. Mostly it was reposting tweets from disgruntled Jazz fans in response the to the Sexton trade.

I would be too if I was a Utah fan. I wonder what they're saying with the buyout of Clarkson now.

[ace3g]

The Golden State Warriors have Al Horford as a top target at the start of free agency.

https://marcstein.substack.com/p/the-absolute-latest-nba-free-agency

[Mr. Body]

Wow. Utah telling their fans they're going to compete and they're buying out players or trading them for little return. Couldn't they trade Clarkson for some sort of return?

I think Ainge was trying to trade these guys and totally crapped out.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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14m
Russell Westbrook has emerged as a potential free agent target for the Knicks and Al Horford is a top target for Golden State, league sources tell JakeLFischer
and me

[Mugen]

I wonder if they're making moves for a Markkanen trade.

I think they gotta let him play his value up again to start the year. But I'd be very surprised if Markkanen isn't traded within the next year tbh.

[itzsoweezee]

I would be too if I was a Utah fan. I wonder what they're saying with the buyout of Clarkson now.

Utah is definitely up to something

[Robz4000]

:lol Westbrick on the Knicks

[LeBowen]

:lol Westbrick on the Knicks

Imagine interviewing for the Knicks coaching job and being told Russ will be on the roster. :lol

[benefactor]

:lol Westbrick on the Knicks
How about we fire our head coach, have a disaster of a plan when it comes to trying to hire a new one and then sign Russell Westbrook.

[Ocotillo]

The Knicks just couldn't stand success, they got as close as they did and now this. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Man Utah colossally shitting the bed. Ainge could have had a big pile for Lauri last year and now he's stuck with him. He could have gotten something for Sexton and Clarkson but held onto them. Historic fuck up.

[scott]

I would be too if I was a Utah fan. I wonder what they're saying with the buyout of Clarkson now.

Jazz subreddit seems to be of the mind that this was expected and something that had to happen

[LeBowen]

Man Utah colossally shitting the bed. Ainge could have had a big pile for Lauri last year and now he's stuck with him.

He can easily turn Markkanen into Devin, Keldon and Branham with just one phone call.

[Mr. Body]

He can easily turn Markkanen into Devin, Keldon and Branham with just one phone call.

Spurs cannot take on that contract.

[Leetonidas]

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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14m
Russell Westbrook has emerged as a potential free agent target for the Knicks and Al Horford is a top target for Golden State, league sources tell JakeLFischer
and me

There goes my Knicks/Cavs ECF prediction. No way any team giving Westbrook minutes has a chance in the postseason

[spurraider21]

Spurs cannot take on that contract.
they can, but then they'd probably have to move fox before wemby's new money kicks in

[mo7888]

they can, but then they'd probably have to move fox before wemby's new money kicks in

Yup....essentially they'd be betting on Dylan to reach his potential.... and I'd take that bet

[scott]

With Shams teasing lots of "big deals" tonight... I'm hoping the Spurs do another Brian Wright special and pick up some useful players/assets on the periphery of those deals. We don't have cap space, but we have a bunch of various players and SRPs that could be used to facilitate deals.

I have no reason to believe this is happening, but just using this as an example... maybe IND makes a "big move" and we pick up a player like Jarace Walker essentially for free for helping facilitate (a la the Barnes deal last year). That's the kind of thing that would be pretty sweet, picking up an unexpected solution at PF or C for being a facilitator. (Again, not suggesting Walker is on the table or likely... just throwing out an example).

[MannyIsGod]

I would hate for the Spurs to trade for Laurie now. The time for that passed.

[scott]

https://i.imgflip.com/9yz2ba.jpg

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sounds like Sacramento have decided not to decline Keon Ellis’s option and extend him but to pick it up because they favour signing Shroeder. Ellis will now be making next to nothing and will be unrestricted next summer.

Identify the idiot GM, Brian, and try throwing several seconds at them. They might just bite, who knows.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
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5m
Sources: Phoenix Suns center Nick Richards has drawn trade interest from several teams, including the New York Knicks, Indiana Pacers, and the Los Angeles Lakers. More on Hoopshype
.

[ace3g]

With free agency nearing, the Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers, and San Antonio Spurs are among the teams expected to pursue Capela, league sources told HoopsHype.

[mo7888]

Sounds like Sacramento have decided not to decline Keon Ellis’s option and extend him but to pick it up because they favour signing Shroeder. Ellis will now be making next to nothing and will be a unrestricted next summer.

Identify the idiot GM, Brian, and try throwing several seconds at them. They might just bite, who knows.

This is the way...

[Degoat]

Lakers are interested in everybody apparently

[Mugen]

https://i.imgflip.com/9yz2ba.jpg

It honestly looks like him tbh.

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
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35s
Breaking: The Houston Rockets intend to sign Jae'Sean Tate to a one-year, $3 million deal, league sources told Hoopshype
. CAA representatives Austin Brown, Max Saidman, Shakira Wardally, and Aaron Mintz worked with Rockets officials to negotiate the deal

[Dverde]

Fischer appears to think Kornet is getting 10M+ per year deal. Feels like the deal is done and will be announced today.

[baseline bum]

Fischer appears to think Kornet is getting 10M+ per year deal. Feels like the deal is done and will be announced today.

I'd be fine with it for two years, especially with Portis off the table

[Ariel]

With Shams teasing lots of "big deals" tonight... I'm hoping the Spurs do another Brian Wright special and pick up some useful players/assets on the periphery of those deals. We don't have cap space, but we have a bunch of various players and SRPs that could be used to facilitate deals.

I have no reason to believe this is happening, but just using this as an example... maybe IND makes a "big move" and we pick up a player like Jarace Walker essentially for free for helping facilitate (a la the Barnes deal last year). That's the kind of thing that would be pretty sweet, picking up an unexpected solution at PF or C for being a facilitator. (Again, not suggesting Walker is on the table or likely... just throwing out an example).
I would love Jarace Walker, I'd throw in whatever salary they like (Barnes, Sochan, Wesley, etc), eat some money, throw in a 3-4 2nd rounders... this feels like the next guy who could have a big jump next season.

But yeah, in generic terms Spurs have failed to pick up sufficient long term talent through other means than the draft, Kornet and Yabusele might help but they're temporary patches, I don't see either as long term solutions. But as long as the contracts are reasonable (say, 2-3 years starting at no more than the MLE combined between the two) then it's totally fine. If it's one of them for the MLE and the other through other means, llike S&T, then I like it a lot less. I think the Jaylin Williams, Bobby Portis and Jabari Smith Jr among others should be used as reference not to overpay.

[spurraider21]

I would hate for the Spurs to trade for Laurie now. The time for that passed.
i dont understand this. ok, so if we traded for Lauri last summer, his salary was 18 mil. and then if we extended him or re-signed him as a free agent, he would have gotten basically the same deal he has now anyway. so we'd still be sitting on Lauri with a 45+ mil number for the 25-26 season.

if it made sense to get him last year, it would have been with the expectation that he'd be more than a 1 year rental... would have re-signed for functionally the same deal he has now. so if it made sense then, it makes sense now. its not like his higher salary makes putting together a deal hard. it would still be something like Vassell/KJ, just like the Durant structure

[Degoat]

Fischer appears to think Kornet is getting 10M+ per year deal. Feels like the deal is done and will be announced today.

Is he saying he expects Kornet to get 10 mill from a team or from the spurs? Lol

[Mr. Body]

i dont understand this. ok, so if we traded for Lauri last summer, his salary was 18 mil. and then if we extended him or re-signed him as a free agent, he would have gotten basically the same deal he has now anyway. so we'd still be sitting on Lauri with a 45+ mil number for the 25-26 season.

if it made sense to get him last year, it would have been with the expectation that he'd be more than a 1 year rental... would have re-signed for functionally the same deal he has now. so if it made sense then, it makes sense now. its not like his higher salary makes putting together a deal hard. it would still be something like Vassell/KJ, just like the Durant structure

No, it doesn't make sense now, because of the Fox contract.

[Ariel]

Fischer appears to think Kornet is getting 10M+ per year deal. Feels like the deal is done and will be announced today.
That's quite an overpay, hopefully if it's the Spurs it's not that money or at least no more than 2 years.

[LeBowen]

No, it doesn't make sense now, because of the Fox contract.

It makes sense if we can trade him in two years and free up cap space.
We kind of have too many players and should ideally consolidate some of our wings into a better player.


That's quite an overpay, hopefully if it's the Spurs it's not that money or at least no more than 2 years.

Why would it be an overpay?
We're looking for a ~15 mpg backup big, considering our cap situation anything up to MLE would be fine.

[scott]

i dont understand this. ok, so if we traded for Lauri last summer, his salary was 18 mil. and then if we extended him or re-signed him as a free agent, he would have gotten basically the same deal he has now anyway. so we'd still be sitting on Lauri with a 45+ mil number for the 25-26 season.

if it made sense to get him last year, it would have been with the expectation that he'd be more than a 1 year rental... would have re-signed for functionally the same deal he has now. so if it made sense then, it makes sense now. its not like his higher salary makes putting together a deal hard. it would still be something like Vassell/KJ, just like the Durant structure

For me, the difference is that we acquired Fox instead, thus closing the door on Lauri (unless you firmly commit on trading De'Aaron in two years - if you're doing that and sending out Vassell and Keldon, then the money evens out and you've upgraded the team).

[DPG21920]

I dont mind Lauri. Devin + Keldon basically make same net money as him next 2 seasons and I’d rather have Lauri. Then hopefully in year 3 they can move him if needed since it’s just 2 years left on deal.

[BatManu20]

I don't want Lauri simply because he's injury-prone. Only played 60+ games 3 times in his 8 year career. Not reliable for that amount of money, especially with 4 years left on his deal. He would be a nice fit beside Wemby though tbh.

[Mr. Body]

It makes sense if we can trade him in two years and free up cap space.
We kind of have too many players and should ideally consolidate some of our wings into a better player.



Why would it be an overpay?
We're looking for a ~15 mpg backup big, considering our cap situation anything up to MLE would be fine.

Sure, but then you'd be stuck with Lauri Markannen.

[mo7888]

I would love Jarace Walker, I'd throw in whatever salary they like (Barnes, Sochan, Wesley, etc), eat some money, throw in a 3-4 2nd rounders... this feels like the next guy who could have a big jump next season.

But yeah, in generic terms Spurs have failed to pick up sufficient long term talent through other means than the draft, Kornet and Yabusele might help but they're temporary patches, I don't see either as long term solutions. But as long as the contracts are reasonable (say, 2-3 years starting at no more than the MLE combined between the two) then it's totally fine. If it's one of them for the MLE and the other through other means, llike S&T, then I like it a lot less. I think the Jaylin Williams, Bobby Portis and Jabari Smith Jr among others should be used as reference not to overpay.

You guys have me excited with this Jarace Walker talk....

[spurraider21]

No, it doesn't make sense now, because of the Fox contract.


For me, the difference is that we acquired Fox instead, thus closing the door on Lauri (unless you firmly commit on trading De'Aaron in two years - if you're doing that and sending out Vassell and Keldon, then the money evens out and you've upgraded the team).
ah i see. like i said, i think you could to the lauri deal, ride this big 3 for a couple of years and then move Fox assuming harper is coming along well

[Mr. Body]

I don't want Lauri simply because he's injury-prone. Only played 60+ games 3 times in his 11 year career, and only 50+ 5 times. Not reliable for that amount of money tbh.

He's already on a bad decline.

[LeBowen]

Sure, but then you'd be stuck with Lauri Markannen.

I was talking about trading Markkanen in two years.

[objective]

Lauri just had a bad year. 19 pts and 6 rebounds a game with rim attempts and dunks way down isn't worth the average of 48 or 49 million when he's not even a plus defender

[DAF86]

You know this is a shitty ass class when NAW, DFS and fucking Luke Kornett are the big prizes. :lol

[DAF86]

they were a top 2 seed with FVV and Jalen Green being those guys. they'll be even better at it this year.

Amen and Sheppard are also improvement candidates

They were a first round exit too, tbh. Udoka's try hard style in the regular season inflates wins but then gets exposed in the playoffs, and with the Rockets it is even more evident with their lack of offensive talent. Until they get a true franchise player, they are nothing but pretenders in my eyes. Let's see if 37 years old Durant can be that, but I highly doubt it, tbh.

[DAF86]

Whitmore gets traded for a shooter I think

You need a scorer that isn't 40 years old, tbh, not just a spot up shooter

[exstatic]

Man Utah colossally shitting the bed. Ainge could have had a big pile for Lauri last year and now he's stuck with him. He could have gotten something for Sexton and Clarkson but held onto them. Historic fuck up.


Jazz subreddit seems to be of the mind that this was expected and something that had to happen

I think they’re having the realization that you can’t tank with too much talent on the roster. Ainge tried to have it both ways, and it blew up in his face. The league was not amused at the number of holdout games.

[Dverde]

Is he saying he expects Kornet to get 10 mill from a team or from the spurs? Lol

Jake Fischer said that he was happy Kornet got a double digit salary. He met him during his college days. He didn’t mention a team or the length of the deal.

[LeBowen]

You know this is a shitty ass class when NAW, DFS and fucking Luke Kornett are the big prizes. :lol

And it won't get better anytime soon.
Teams can forget about getting high end starters under 30 in free agency.
Which is a good thing.

[scott]

ah i see. like i said, i think you could to the lauri deal, ride this big 3 for a couple of years and then move Fox assuming harper is coming along well

I agree... and you could move Fox or Lauri, whoever makes the most sense... doesn't have to be Fox.

[exstatic]

They were a first round exit too, tbh. Udoka's try hard style in the regular season inflates wins but then gets exposed in the playoffs, and with the Rockets it is even more evident with their lack of offensive talent. Until they get a true franchise player, they are nothing but pretenders in my eyes. Let's see if 37 years old Durant can be that, but I highly doubt it, tbh.

Not to mention that the gap between 2 and 8 was four games. I’m not sure they were even better than the teams below them, just younger and healthier.

[Ice009]

Jake Fischer said that he was happy Kornet got a double digit salary. He met him during his college days. He didn’t mention a team or the length of the deal.

How much is the full MLE? If it's the Spurs, I'm hoping they gave him 10M and have some of it left over.

[mystargtr34]

Hollinger’s FA Center rankings from a week ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6433786/2025/06/21/nba-free-agency-centers-players-ranked/?source=user_shared_article

NBA free agency 2025: Deandre Ayton joins deep crop of center talent

June 21, 2025Updated June 30, 2025 10:35 pm GMT+8
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Free-agent rankings: Power forwards | Small Forwards | Shooting Guards | Point Guards

If you need a center, you might be in luck; while there isn’t a max-worthy target out there, several starting-caliber big men hit the market this year, and many of them are gettable for rivals due to their own teams’ tight salary-cap situations. Even beyond that, the market for the tax and room-exception big men looks frothy, making this arguably the most interesting position of the summer in terms of player movement.

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As always, I’ve included all free agents and potential free agents due to player options, team options and non-guaranteed contracts, except for the most unlikely cases. For instance, surely Oklahoma City’s Jaylin Williams, Philadelphia’s Adem Bona and Golden State’s Trayce Jackson-Davis need not sweat about their non-guaranteed minimum deals.

Here’s how BORD$ (more on the methodology here) sees the centers:

(PO = player option; TO = team option; NG = non-guaranteed; R = restricted; R-2w = restricted two-way)

Tier I: Max and near-max guys

Nobody

Tier II: More than MLE but less than max

1. Myles Turner, Pacers, $31,329,931

Turner might be the most contentious free-agent negotiation of the summer. Between his unrestricted status, the lack of competing cap-space teams, the Pacers’ accomplishments this season, Indiana’s potential tax and apron issues if it pays him big money and the fact his deal cannot be extended before he hits free agency … all the ingredients seem to be there for a prolonged staredown that ends with hurt feelings.

Turner’s BORD$ value is $31 million; while there is no chance of him getting this much in a market with no viable alternate suitors, it does indicate a figure for the Pacers to at least approach if they want him to sign for multiple years.

Is three years for $75 million to $80 million fair? Even at $25 million a pop, Turner’s next deal would take the Pacers sailing past the first apron and represent a first-ever foray into the tax for Indiana. That’s for 2025-26; extending Bennedict Mathurin could push the Pacers to the second apron in 2026-27. Some tough decisions will need to be made at some point about other spots on the roster, but if you’re not willing to pay the luxury tax for the franchise’s best team in a quarter century, sell it to someone who will.

Finally, note that Turner is eligible for a no-trade clause, although I doubt he has the juice to get one.

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2. Naz Reid, Timberwolves, $26,211,784 (PO)

Reid has a player option for $15 million and is due for a raise, but the execution of this one could be tricky. The Wolves are basically in a “pick two” situation with Reid, Julius Randle and Nickeil Alexander-Walker all potentially being free agents this summer.

If Reid stays, one wonders if the Wolves could do an opt-in-and-extend deal that tacks on four years and $94 million with a fourth-year player option in return for locking in next year at a below-market $15 million (a total package of $109 million over five years). Such a deal would pay Reid through his age-30 season and help solve a short-term cap crunch in Minnesota; it’s probably the one scenario where the Wolves could quasi-realistically keep all three players. More realistic, perhaps: Reid signs and is traded to another team, because maintaining him in this salary structure is going to be complicated.

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The Nets are the only team with significant cap space and wouldn’t seem to be a fit for Reid, but he should have suitors around the league. I also think he’s the most fungible of the three, even though he’s beloved in the Twin Cities. I’ll ballpark his next deal at three years and $65 million if the two sides can figure out the right sign-and-trade. If nobody can hit that number, he might be better off taking the opt-in-and-extend strategy.

3. Brook Lopez, Bucks, $21,501,456

Lopez deserves more than the nontaxpayer MLE, but getting somebody to pay it to him could prove problematic. The Nets don’t need him, so he’s depending on either Milwaukee’s participation in a sign-and-trade or a strong offer from the Bucks to keep him. (Milwaukee has full Bird rights on Lopez, but his deal cannot be extended.)

If he finds an unfriendly market relative to the BORD$ value above, one thing Lopez could do is a two-year MLE deal for $29 million with a second-year player option that allows him to re-enter free agency a year from now. One thing that seems certain is that he won’t lack for suitors at this price (keep an eye on Houston after the Rockets got to the 1-yard line with him two summers ago), which is why I suspect he’ll be bid up above the MLE and end up either in a sign-and-trade or back with the Bucks.

Lopez is also eligible for a no-trade clause from the Bucks, which makes no sense from Milwaukee’s perspective but would be objectively hilarious.

Tier III: MLE guys

4. Al Horford, Celtics, $18,930,304

One of the many ripple effects of the Jayson Tatum injury is that Horford might be more gettable in free agency than previously presumed. With Horford at age 39 and the Celtics likely both facing a “gap” year and needing to trim salary, it might make sense for him to hunt for a different contender on a one-year deal.

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Because of his size, shooting and switchability, he can fit virtually everywhere, and suitors should be plentiful; additionally, one suspects this is a situation where the Benjamins will matter less than the team situation and championship equity.

5. Clint Capela, Hawks, $15,155,239

This is a rather optimistic reading of the 31-year-old Capela’s market after he lost his starting job in Atlanta to Onyeka Okongwu last season. The Hawks have full Bird rights on Capela and could even extend him before free agency begins, but Atlanta has other offseason priorities and lacks infinite salary space.

If the Hawks draft a center with one of their two first-round picks (13th and 22nd), it seems unlikely Capela would be back. Capela is stretched as a starter but would be one of the best backup centers in the league; one wonders how he’d look in LA reunited with his old pick-and-roll partner James Harden. Note that Atlanta’s Bird rights on Capela, in concert with his high salary last season, make sign-and-trades a distinct possibility.

6. Luke Kornet, Celtics, $13,834,865

The Green Kornet rises! Boston’s 7-foot-2 insurance center was pressed into service for 73 games last season and turned out to be quite good, impacting games with his size as a rim runner and shot blocker. Kornet shot 67.5 percent and drew fouls at a high rate, proved to be a good passer on the roll who averaged nearly four assists for every turnover and posted a 4.8 percent block rate.

Those are borderline starter numbers, and while Kornet’s limited track record and age (he turns 30 in July) will work against him, he’s earned a significant raise from his minimum deal. He’s also a fairly essential player for Boston to keep if it either loses Horford or trades Kristaps Porziņģis.

Tier IV: Room or tax exception

7. Deandre Ayton, Trail Blazers, $12,633,013

Surprise! A late entrant to the free-agent market after his exit from Portland, Ayton projects more as a high-level backup than a starter at this point. He’ll rebound and can slide his feet on the perimeter, but his low motor constantly frustrates, and offensively, he’s all 2-point jump shots. He’s note even a notably good shooter, and all the jumpers make him alarmingly allergic to free throws, with just one for every eight field goal attempts.

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Ayton shot 82 percent at the cup last season and was more offensively potent in his Phoenix years; entering his age-27 season, can he get some of the back?

8. Paul Reed, Pistons, $10,110,334

No, I did not hack the BORD$ formula. I swear! B-ball Paul and Kornet were pretty clearly the two best third-string centers in the league, but Kornet got a lot more run because of Boston’s injuries.

Reed is an acquired taste at just 6-9 with an iffy perimeter game and a proclivity for adventurous ballhandling. He also fouls on every play (8.2 personals per 100 possessions last season). But over time, his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. Reed runs the floor, zips around as a screener and is disruptive on defense (4.3 steals per 100 from a center is amazing). Somehow, some way, he always ends up with more assists than turnovers as well.

Reed isn’t needed in Detroit, where the Pistons already have Jalen Duren and Isaiah Stewart, but his mobility and ability to play some power forward would make him a fit with an up-tempo team. At age 25, his next few years should be his best.

9. Kevon Looney, Warriors, $9,505,471

This number probably surprises people, especially because Looney is just 6-9, doesn’t exude athleticism and has made two 3s over the last four seasons. Nonetheless, Looney has low-key value as a backup center because he’s a monstrous rebounder (21.8 percent rebound rate last season, 10th in the league among players who played at least 500 minutes) who still makes an impact on defense when he doesn’t have to switch.

Skeptics will point to his physical issues and question his fit outside the Warriors’ unique system. However, Looney has missed only 14 games over the past four seasons, and he’s only 29. At the very least, he should be a useful backup for the room exception. Golden State, alas, may not be the right fit for him anymore, as the Warriors have other priorities with sub-apron money and a developing alternative in Quinten Post (below).

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10. Day’Ron Sharpe, Nets, $9,116,630 (R)

The Nets have oodles of cap room and likely will use at least some of it to keep Sharpe on a team-friendly deal following the end of his rookie contract. The Nets have matching rights as long as they make a $5.98 million qualifying offer and shouldn’t face serious threats of an offer sheet given their ability to match.

Sharpe has a cap hold for $11.97 million, which is high enough that the Nets likely would sign him to a deal early in the free-agent process to get his new number on the books instead of the $11.97 million number.

However, watch for Brooklyn to front-load the deal and add the maximum allowable 15 percent in incentives, specifically ones that are “unlikely” as far as the cap rules are concerned, but are achievable for Sharpe. The front-loading helps the Nets manage their cap in future seasons when the rest of the roster is likely to be more expensive, while the incentives are to let him agree to a lower guaranteed salary that would operate as his cap number hit season.

Imagine, for instance, a four-year, $40 million deal where $6 million of it is incentives; front-loading it would mean the first year would come in just under $11.5 million, but $1.5 million of it would be “unlikely” incentives that drag the cap number down below $10 million for 2025-26. The contract would then contain 8 percent declines to a final season of $8.6 million, of which $1.3 million would be incentives.

11. Moritz Wagner, Magic, $5,6637,898 (TO)

Wagner tore his ACL at midseason last year, and the Magic are facing a luxury-tax crunch, both of which make it seem unlikely that the Magic pick up his $11 million team option.

The way out of this would be for the Magic to re-sign Wagner to a one-year minimum deal, or a “one-plus-one” with a second-year player option. That arrangement would allow him to re-sign in Orlando with Bird rights next summer after he’s fully rehabbed the knee. Orlando can do this with a bit less flight risk than normal, since Wagner’s younger brother (and roommate), Franz, is one of the team’s stars.


Moe Wagner missed much of last season due to a knee injury. (Benny Sieu / Imagn Images)
12. Jaxson Hayes, Lakers, $5,287,448

Hayes is a deeply frustrating player, an athletic 7-footer who is only 25 and shot 72 percent from the field last season but whose limited basketball IQ and inability to stretch the floor often render him ineffective. His rim-running threat — 120 dunks in 56 games! — should theoretically make him a strong fit next to Luka Dončić, yet Hayes fell out of favor as the season wore on and he DNP’d the Lakers’ final three halves in the playoffs.

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The Lakers likely will try to do better here, and Hayes will likely try to find a place where he’s more appreciated, but I’m not sure we should rule out a reunion. Between L.A.’s early Bird rights on Hayes and the limited money on the market for supplemental centers like him, these two may find that continuing their uncomfortable marriage remains better than the alternative.

13. Nick Richards, Suns, $4,632,039 (NG)

Richards has a non-guaranteed deal for $5 million that becomes fully guaranteed on June 29. Given the small difference between that price and his BORD$ value, and the Suns’ limited alternatives to pay anyone else to fill the position, it seems highly unlikely he would be waived. However, because it’s Phoenix, I can’t rule it out.

[jeebus]

That's quite an overpay, hopefully if it's the Spurs it's not that money or at least no more than 2 years.

I see someone is stuck in the 2015 mind set when it comes to salary. Anyone worth a damn will be getting $10m+ a year.

[RC_Drunkford]

I guess y'all forgot the Spurs paid Doug McDermott 13 million per year in 2021. Of course it was by far the highest salary of his life, but "that's who we are".

[Dverde]

Luke Kornet Cathedral for Children Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too

[spurraider21]

woah

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[Mugen]

Looney isn't the worst option in the world if he comes cheap tbh

[spurraider21]

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[Ice009]

The list/article on the previous page with the Centers, what are those salary numbers listed? Is that what the article writer projects those guys to make?


I guess y'all forgot the Spurs paid Doug McDermott 13 million per year in 2021. Of course it was by far the highest salary of his life, but "that's who we are".

I didn't watch the team much at all around that time. Was that the Spurs that gave him that, or did they get him with that much on his contract? If it was the Spurs, was that to reach the salary floor?


woah

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What does this mean? Are teams paying people like it's projected to increase 10%?

[scott]

woah

1939800046452854860

Everyone assuming the max 10% allowable cap raises as gospel... whoops!

[lefty20]

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Knicks :lol

[scott]

What time does all of this kick off, at 5 or 6p CT? Trying to plan my mid-day distractions accordingly out here in HI

[mo7888]

What time does all of this kick off, at 5 or 6p CT? Trying to plan my mid-day distractions accordingly out here in HI

5 cst

[MannyIsGod]

i dont understand this. ok, so if we traded for Lauri last summer, his salary was 18 mil. and then if we extended him or re-signed him as a free agent, he would have gotten basically the same deal he has now anyway. so we'd still be sitting on Lauri with a 45+ mil number for the 25-26 season.

if it made sense to get him last year, it would have been with the expectation that he'd be more than a 1 year rental... would have re-signed for functionally the same deal he has now. so if it made sense then, it makes sense now. its not like his higher salary makes putting together a deal hard. it would still be something like Vassell/KJ, just like the Durant structure

This team isnt in the same position as it was last Summer. We've made substantial changes.

[Ice009]

I usually go by eastern time as I'm not in the US. Is central time 1 hour behind?

[LeBowen]

Everyone assuming the max 10% allowable cap raises as gospel... whoops!

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/salary_cap

Meaning it's going to be at $165.47M instead of the projected $170M.

[ninjaskrzypek]

9 min

[vy65]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

[Seventyniner]

Everyone assuming the max 10% allowable cap raises as gospel... whoops!

I certainly fall in that group. I have assumed for a while the cap would go up 10% every year for the next several.

[Guru of Nothing]

Not a cap guy ... About the 7% in lieu of 10% bump to cap in 2026/2027, might that affect whatever discussions Spurs have with Fox regarding his extension?

[Leetonidas]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

Yes constantly lately

[Mugen]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

Hamster died tbh

[Guru of Nothing]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

Yep, hit or miss, and has been for a long time for me.

[LeBowen]

Tbh, just open reddit and refresh by new, way faster than Spurstalk and all the relevant news will be there instantly.

[heyheymymy]

b dubs coffee maker is probably going OT today

[vy65]

Son of a bitch

[jeebus]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

Doesn't help the forum software is woefully out of date. I don't think it's been supported by vbulletin for damn near 10 years. It's as if the forum is running on the equivalent of windows vista or 7.

[Ice009]

Do any of you all have an issue where you can’t see tweets all the time? Sometimes, I just see blank spaces with the tweet showing up eventually after I refresh the page.

This happens to me around 40% of the time. Usually a refresh of the page works. If not, Exstatic said you can quote the post and usually the URL is there and you can copy the link to see the linked tweet.

[vy65]

Zzzzzzzzzz

[scott]

No deals reported instantly at 12:00:01 (my time)... teams getting smarter about not tipping their hand on the tampering :lol

[Degoat]

Everyone acting like they haven’t been tampering lol

[vy65]

We got Shvi Mykhailiuk news boys

[CGD]

How much is the full MLE? If it's the Spurs, I'm hoping they gave him 10M and have some of it left over.

Full MLE for a team like the Spurs is around 14M

[RC_Drunkford]

I still remember the 50 Mills contract 1 minute into free agency. Some of us saw that as the beginning of the end...

[vy65]

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[SpursFan86]

No tampering, but reporters like Shams/Stein are able to already give out estimated contract details and teams :rolleyes

[Ice009]

Full MLE for a team like the Spurs is around 14M

Alright thanks. The Spurs also have the BAE? If so, how much is that?

[RC_Drunkford]

legendary fuck up

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[Degoat]

This is weird, you would think you would see the Myles Turner deal at least annouced

[Leetonidas]

NBA must have told shams to wait half an hour or something so the tampering isn't as blatant :lol

[scott]

Alright thanks. The Spurs also have the BAE? If so, how much is that?

My guy, no offense intended... but a lot of the questions you ask of Spurstalk are answered a lot faster with Google

[scott]

NBA must have told shams to wait half an hour or something so the tampering isn't as blatant :lol

Shams and ESPN have a two hour special starting an hour later... I'm sure that's not a coincidence at all

[Mugen]

I know Shams has a 7 figure salary but no amount of money in the world would make me want his job tbh.

[Ice009]

My guy, no offense intended... but a lot of the questions you ask of Spurstalk are answered a lot faster with Google

Yeah, I looked it up just after asking it. Don't know why I ask some of them as I end up looking them up after. Seems to be around 5M. I wonder if someone like Yabusele would sign for that amount.

[scott]

I know Shams has a 7 figure salary but no amount of money in the world would make me want his job tbh.

Must make having any kind of relationship near impossible... "Babe why are you always looking at your phone?"

[Dverde]

Shams got the league on lock down until his special :lol

[BatManu20]

CP3 deciding between the Suns and Clippers, per Haynes

[Mugen]

Go to the Clippers, CP3.

[vy65]

JJJ max extension

[BatManu20]

Jaren Jackson 5 year/$240M Max deal to stay with Memphis

[vy65]

Yawn

[lefty20]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/747/Do_Something_meme_banner_imag.jpg

[scott]

JJJ max extension

I think this makes losing Santi more likely... I hope that's our big move.

[objective]

legendary fuck up

881000541693792256

And then he had the gall after playing like rancid shit the first months of the deal to tell the media that he didn't have to perform up to his contract because he was underpaid in the past and a lot of it was make-up money.

Pop's dreamboat and centerpiece of his 6-footers on Durant defensive scheme

[vy65]

Hopefully, Santi would be dope

[LeBowen]

Damn, they have to pay him but that's an awful lot for a career 15ppg on 39% scorer in the playoffs.

[benefactor]

Stop posting the tweets and post text. Sounds like everyone is having the same problem

[vy65]

Spoke too soon Scott …

[mystargtr34]

Santi staying with Memphis damn

[vy65]

Santi, 3/52MM

[Ice009]

I think this makes losing Santi more likely... I hope that's our big move.

That would be pretty sweet.

[ninjaskrzypek]

What special?

[scott]

Spoke too soon Scott …

LOL @ Me

[exstatic]

That's quite an overpay, hopefully if it's the Spurs it's not that money or at least no more than 2 years.

Not even the MLE. You could probably pay Yalu with the rest.

[DPG21920]

I think this makes losing Santi more likely... I hope that's our big move.

17M per for Santi

[Ice009]

F@$K. That sucks. Would have been an awesome get. Memphis got a great deal on Santi :(.

[SpursFan86]

Wow, 3/52 is a great deal for Santi. Making Keldon-type money :lmao

[BatManu20]

I think this makes losing Santi more likely... I hope that's our big move.

Nope. Sorry.


Shams Charania (https://x.com/ShamsCharania)

@ShamsCharania
(https://x.com/ShamsCharania)2m

Restricted free agent Santi Aldama has agreed to a three-year, $52.5 million deal to return to the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell ESPN. CAA’s Austin Brown, Steven Heumann and Max Sadiman finalized the deal with the Grizzlies for Aldama, who had a career year last season.

[MannyIsGod]

Well there goes one of Scott's dudes.

[vy65]

So all the shit is gonna go down starting at 6cst because of the ESPN special, right?

[exstatic]

I see someone is stuck in the 2015 mind set when it comes to salary. Anyone worth a damn will be getting $10m+ a year.

Especially if you have to entice them from another team.

[Dverde]

Santi being at 17M will be good for the Sochan extension we all know is coming.

[Degoat]

Idk if they’re even doing a special, it says so on espn. But I was watching and they kept saying Tune in to sports center for updates from Shams

[scott]

Well there goes one of Scott's dudes.

Dreams crushed (I didn't think we'd actually make it happen... but... It Still Hurts)

[scott]

Santi being at 17M will be good for the Sochan extension we all know is coming.

That plus the cap only raising at 7%...

But... Brian Wright might take a look at that Santi deal and think "Aldama is worth $17... so we should be able to lock up Sochan for $25!"

[scott]

Idk if they’re even doing a special, it says so on espn. But I was watching and they kept saying Tune in to sports center for updates from Shams

They've been promoting pretty hard. Two hours today, three hours tomorrow.

[Dverde]

:lol Kings doing Kings things Westbrick :lol

https://x.com/esidery/status/1939811802239365525?s=46

[MannyIsGod]

Westbrook trying to play for every team in the fucking league at this point.

[scott]

Thank God we don't need a point guard... can you imagine the threads debating Schroeder or whether or not we should take a shot at Killian Hayes on a reclamation project... shudder to think. Luke Kornet vs Clint Capela discourse is already tough enough...

[BatManu20]

DFS to the Rockets. 4-years/$53M. Great get by them tbh.

[mo7888]

DFS to the rockets...4/53

[RC_Drunkford]

Santi, 3/52MM

that's a steal. Sochan will probably get the same by the Spurs.

[SpursFan86]

DFS to Houston for 4/53 million. Damn.

[scott]

Westbrook trying to play for every team in the fucking league at this point.

:pop:Good luck motherfucker, not on my watch

[vy65]

Rockets heist

[SpursFan86]

Watching guys like DFS and Santi make less money than Keldon hurts man

[BatManu20]

Cam Spencer 2-yr/$4.5M to stay in Memphis

[scott]

MEM still needs to trade away about $7MM in salary to make the JJJ and Santi moves, per Keith Smith...

...that's Brian Wright's music!

[RC_Drunkford]

don't worry guys. We got much better players on better contracts:

Harrison Barnes - 19 million
Keldon Johnson - 17.5 million
Devin Vassell - 27 million

[Dverde]

League waiting for that John Collins domino to drop :lol

[Degoat]

MEM still needs to trade away about $7MM in salary to make the JJJ and Santi moves, per Keith Smith...

...that's Brian Wright's music!

I’ve been saying, Trade for Brandon Clarke. Make it happen Wright

[Chillen]

Westbrook makes sense for the Suns. KD is gone now.

[exstatic]

I’ve been saying, Trade for Brandon Clarke. Make it happen Wright

:vomit:

[DPG21920]

MEM still needs to trade away about $7MM in salary to make the JJJ and Santi moves, per Keith Smith...

...that's Brian Wright's music!

The Memphis Grizzlies and Cole Anthony’s reps at Excel Sports are working toward a resolution that allows Memphis to create the necessary cap space to renegotiate and extend Jaren Jackson Jr. while giving Anthony the opportunity to find his next destination, sources tell ESPN.

[mystargtr34]

Man thinking about Aldama making $17.5M and DFS making $13M then you realise we have Vassell on $27M and Keldon on $17M. Makes your head hurt.

Just swapping out Devin for an elite role player like DFS or Santi straight up would add 5-10 wins.

[mystargtr34]

Westbrook and Schroeder on the same team would be gold. Definitely a punch up happening at practice or during a game.

[vy65]

LAL taking body blows. Good for our playoff chances.

1. OKC
2. HOU
3. DEN
4. MIN

5. GSW
6. DAL

7. LAL
8. LAC
9. SAS
10. MEM

11. PHX
12. POR
13. SAC
14. NOLA
15. UTA

[exstatic]

Man thinking about Aldama making $17.5M and DFS making $13M then you realise we have Vassell on $27M and Keldon on $17M. Makes your head hurt.

Just swapping out Devin for an elite role player like DFS or Santi straight up would add 5-10 wins.

It’s a different marketplace than a few years ago.

[Dverde]

Memphis wants to move Cole Anthony.

[mo7888]

It’s a different marketplace than a few years ago.

Hopefully we realize that with the Sochan extension

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania
The Memphis Grizzlies and Cole Anthony’s reps at Excel Sports are working toward a resolution that allows Memphis to create the necessary cap space to renegotiate and extend Jaren Jackson Jr. while giving Anthony the opportunity to find his next destination, sources tell ESPN.

[TimDunkem]

No one has cap space. Of course we're seeing smaller deals.

[mo7888]

Memphis wants to move Cole Anthony.

Sounds like a buyout

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania
·

Free agent forward Jake LaRavia has agreed to a two-year, $12 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell ESPN. LaRavia had a strong finish after joining the Sacramento Kings last season.

[RC_Drunkford]

LaRavia to the Lakers. Another one bites the dust

[spurraider21]

wow thats cheap for laravia. if thats what it took...

[mo7888]

LaRavia to LAL for 12

[Degoat]

GD LaRavia to the lakers

[spurraider21]

LaRavia to LAL for 12 per
6 per

[DPG21920]

Free agent forward Jake LaRavia has agreed to a two-year, $12 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell ESPN. LaRavia had a strong finish after joining the Sacramento Kings last season.

[mo7888]

6 per

Yup... I saw and corrected

[Leetonidas]

Fuck

[mystargtr34]

Lakers letting DFS go is going to hurt them, but obviously they think using the non tax MLE on a C is more valuable than keeping DFS and not having a C. It’s like 1 step back and 1 step forward.

I smell a Lebron trade coming.

[RC_Drunkford]

wow thats cheap for laravia. if thats what it took...

:pop: "we like what we have"

[mystargtr34]

“We like what we have” PopGIF

[Degoat]

On a side note, the lakers love themselves some white boys lol

[vy65]

LaRavia drama. LAL or SAC?

[SpursFan86]

Wow. All of these deals seem crazy reasonable…

[scott]

ShamsCharania
·

Free agent forward Jake LaRavia has agreed to a two-year, $12 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell ESPN. LaRavia had a strong finish after joining the Sacramento Kings last season.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FUCK THIS OFFSEASON

[LeBowen]

LaRavia to the Lakers. Another one bites the dust

What dust? We have too many wings, we need to consolidate them into a high end starter.
Why would we go for LaRavia when we have Champagnie? And we're not getting rid of enough wings to have rotation spots for both of them.

[Blizzardwizard]

other GMs: working the phones. trying to do deals to improve the margins of their rosters.


sleepy brian wright at his desk: hooooooooooooooonnnnnnnkkkkkk...... mimimimimimimimimi....... hooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnkkkkkk.......

[scott]

I can stand not getting Lauri...

I can live with losing out on Santi...

BUT CURSE THE GODS FOR ROBBING ME OF LARAVI

[spurraider21]

laravia gone. from what i read its hawks/pistons gunning for NAW.

thats two of my favorite guys who i thought would be in the MLE range

[TimDunkem]

Oh man not LaRavia! I really wanted to see another middling combo forward stink it up with KJ, Sochan, and Barnes!

[RC_Drunkford]

What dust? We have too many wings, we need to consolidate them into a high end starter.
Why would we go for LaRavia when we have Champagnie? And we're not getting rid of enough wings to have rotation spots for both of them.

you mean Guershon Yabusele?

[Jordan Jackson]

Watching guys like DFS and Santi make less money than Keldon hurts man

You can’t put a price tag on friendship.

Anyway. Spurs might need another big wing. I wonder where LaRavia lands? I think he wants the Lakers. He’s a good corner 3 shooter.

Not a lot of options out there so probably stuck with wings like Keldon.

[Ice009]

This free agent season sucks. Some amazingly reasonable deals and the Spurs didn't get any of them. Hope Brian Wright has something cooking.

[exstatic]

The thing working in Sochan’s favor is that while no one has cap room this year,multiple teams have it next year, hisRFA summer.

[SpursFan86]

Atlanta landing NAW would be a true kick in the nuts tbh

[LakerHater]

DFS to Hou is huge!

[spurraider21]

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@Sam_Vecenie
(https://x.com/Sam_Vecenie)
(think there's a good shot LaRavia is an upgrade of DFS for the Lakers. If not an upgrade, at least very close for a fraction of the price)

[mystargtr34]

Any predictions on what Kornet gets?

I’m guessing 3/$30M

[exstatic]

DFS to Hou is huge!

Not sure. LA desperately needed defense and spacing last year, so why no effort to retain him?

[mo7888]

I do wonder if these 'reasonable' contracts are more an indication of fewer teams having cap space or the effect of the new CBA?

[SpursFan86]

Not sure. LA desperately needed defense and spacing last year, so why no effort to retain him?

Probably knew they had LaRavia in their back pocket and felt like he can do just as good of a job for half the money.

[LeBowen]

1939819803881198039

@Sam_Vecenie
(https://x.com/Sam_Vecenie)
(think there's a good shot LaRavia is an upgrade of DFS for the Lakers. If not an upgrade, at least very close for a fraction of the price)




I guess they'll be the first team in league history to play only one side of the floor.

[spurraider21]

Any predictions on what Kornet gets?

I’m guessing 3/$30M
dayron sharpe got 6 mil per year. im not sure kornet is much more valuable. many assumed laravia would be approaching MLE money got he just signed with 6. its a buyers market right now

[mystargtr34]

Not sure. LA desperately needed defense and spacing last year, so why no effort to retain him?

I think the only way the Lakers could open up the non tax MLE of ~$14M was to let DFS go, otherwise they would only have the tax MLE of ~$8M.

They probably had the LaRavia deal worked out before hand and then wanted to use the non tax MLE on a C or maybe two C’s.

[Ice009]

I do wonder if these 'reasonable' contracts are more an indication of fewer teams having cap space or the effect of the new CBA?

Probably a bit of both. Teams are still stupid, though, so I am sure if more teams had money, they'd probably still throw out silly contracts.

[exstatic]

I do wonder if these 'reasonable' contracts are more an indication of fewer teams having cap space or the effect of the new CBA?

The first is caused by the second.

[scott]

From a non-Spurs perspective... I hope Shams is about to drop the hammer on some major trades that shake up the league. He heard the criticism during the draft and is here to make amends with CHAOS

[mo7888]

The first is caused by the second.

For this year, sure, but will it have a similar impact next summer?

[scott]

FWIW, I believe this means the Lakers are going to be hard capped at the first apron

[Leetonidas]

An hour in and we haven't signed Kornet, Yabu, or traded for Collins? Fire Brian Wright

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania

Free agent guard Tre Jones has agreed to a three-year, $24 million deal to return to the Chicago Bulls, sources tell ESPN. Kevin Bradbury of LIFT Sports Management finalized the new deal with Bulls officials tonight.

[BatManu20]

Tre Jones staying with the Bulls. 3 years/$24M. Good for him tbh.

[Guru of Nothing]

LeBron(ny) for Markannen would make a lot of sense.

[mystargtr34]

dayron sharpe got 6 mil per year. im not sure kornet is much more valuable. many assumed laravia would be approaching MLE money got he just signed with 6. its a buyers market right now

You may be right, but I think Kornet producing on a winning team and in the playoffs vs. Sharpe producing on one of the worst team in the league adds a couple million a year. Maybe not $4M though.

[Degoat]

I saw the first half of the tweet about Tre Jones that said RETURNING, I was like NOOOOOOOOOO lol

[RC_Drunkford]

somehow the Bulls resigned Jones for less than the Spurs paid him. Overpaying is in this franchise DNA.

[exstatic]

For this year, sure, but will it have a similar impact next summer?

Different deal,but it might. A number of the FAs that teams were hoping for in 2026 are off the board, or soon will be. We’ll see what teams do with that cap room.

[Ice009]

Glad Tre got a contract. Really good guy and solid player. I wish him well.

[scott]

3/$24 for Tre Jones to return to Chicago. Happy for him.

[Guru of Nothing]

I think Tre Jones is a fan favorite in Chicago, based upon a few random comments read.

[vy65]

DLO to DAL

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania
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Breaking: Free agent guard D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell ESPN. Mavericks officials and CAA Co-Heads of Basketball Austin Brown/Aaron Mintz and Antonio Russell reached the new contract after free agency began.

[lefty]

On a side note, the lakers love themselves some white boys lol

:lol Los Angeles Celtics

[vy65]

DFS, DLO, LaRavia deals are making Devin’s look fucking atrocious

[Dverde]

Tre has much better luck than his brother at FA. Good for him

[scott]

DLo to Dallas, as expected

[BacktoBasics]

That’s a good signing for Dallas. Kyrie is a long ways away from coming back if at all.

[Chillen]

Good for DLO filling in while Irving heals, makes sense.

[lefty]

:lol Mavs, from Luka to DLo

[Ice009]

F@cK, Cooper shouldn't have to play with D-Lo. I think Cooper is going to have to run PG himself.

[RC_Drunkford]

so given how cheap these deals are: what would be reasonable numbers for Kornet and Yabusele?

[spurraider21]

actual cheap, sensible deals happening right now. league is finally correcting tbh

[Guru of Nothing]

For the Kornet is not worth $10M/yr crowd (IF we sign him), is Hartenstein significantly better a $29M/yr? I do have know; just trying to understand market values.

[TimDunkem]

somehow the Bulls resigned Jones for less than the Spurs paid him. Overpaying is in this franchise DNA.

They compete against themselves to lock down the trash.

[Ice009]

so given how cheap these deals are: what would be reasonable numbers for Kornet and Yabusele?

No idea based on these numbers. Before FA started, I thought 10M for Kornet and 5M for Yabusele. I'd give Yabusele a bit more, but they don't have the cap space.

Wasn't there a post/tweet from Fischer saying that Kornet has been given 10M+ by a team?

[BatManu20]

Wow MPJ to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson


BREAKING: The Denver Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Jr. and an unprotected 2032 first-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for Cam Johnson, sources tell ESPN.

[spurraider21]

MPJ and a first for Cam

wow

[scott]

MPJ AND A 2032 FRP TO BROOKLYN FOR CAM JOHNSON

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania
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BREAKING: The Denver Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Jr. and an unprotected 2032 first-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for Cam Johnson, sources tell ESPN.

[Degoat]

Kind of a weird trade lol

[TimDunkem]

For the Kornet is not worth $10M/yr crowd (IF we sign him), is Hartenstein significantly better a $29M/yr? I do have know; just trying to understand market values.
It's not about being worth it. Few will receive perceived value this off-season because almost no one has cap space.

[BatManu20]

Great move by Denver. MPJ was fucking dog-shit in the Playoffs. They have a generational prospect and have to go all-in right now. Good stuff tbh.

[vy65]

That unprotected 20132 pick is juicy

[Spurs Brazil]

ShamsCharania
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Free agent guard Ty Jerome has agreed to a three-year, $28 million deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, with a player option in year three, sources tell ESPN. Kieran Piller and Mark Bartelstein of
@PrioritySports
negotiated the new deal with the Grizzlies.