2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[Baam]

Wasn't speaking to you tbh.

Well this is a website with real analysis and not brainless cheerleading like PS or PTR where they think we're gonna win every year no matter what...

[DesignatedT]

I'm cool with the Spurs virtually running it back but in all likelihood, Duncan declines a hair compared to this season and Manu continues his rapid decline. Going to need monster years from Kawhi, Tiago, Joseph etc. if the Spurs want to have a realistic shot at doing anything. The Spurs needed to add a significant piece and they had the $ to do so. Pretty disappointing but expected.

[Robz4000]

I don't normally agree with gnsf, but he's right. Spurs don't need big changes, but a vet PG and a smallball 4 would be nice as well.

[benefactor]

Well this is a website with real analysis and not brainless cheerleading like PS or PTR where they think we're gonna win every year no matter what...
It's more about you not knowing anything about basketball. No offense meant, of course. All of us are bad at something.

[benefactor]

I'm cool with the Spurs virtually running it back but in all likelihood, Duncan declines a hair compared to this season and Manu continues his rapid decline. Going to need monster years from Kawhi, Tiago, Joseph etc. if the Spurs want to have a realistic shot at doing anything. The Spurs needed to add a significant piece and they had the $ to do so. Pretty disappointing but expected.
I think they have added players that can effectively eat minutes for declining players. Belli can eat minutes for Manu and they just added another big that can ease the minutes load Duncan/allow Duncan to take more games off against meaningless teams. Leonard is only going to get better and better. I expect him to play like a demon this season after losing in the Finals. We all would have liked to have had AK-47, but I think as long as they pick up a decent backup SF to go with what they already have they've got as good of a shot as they had last year. No one in the West really got better except Houston(in theory) and GS(still not championship caliber).

[Hoops Czar]

Garcia with the "cooler heads prevailing" goods.

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Yeah, because the NBA just picks up where it left off last season like one great big reality tv show. Other teams won't improve their rosters, the Spurs health and depth will be better than ever, Spurs won't get hit by the flukey injury bug that was going around, Ginobili will return to form, and rebounding won't be an issue because the Spurs are going to shoot lights out. Yep, Garcia has it all figured out.

[benefactor]

Yeah, because the NBA just picks up where it left off last season like one great big reality tv show. Other teams won't improve their rosters, the Spurs health and depth will be better than ever, Spurs won't get hit by the flukey injury bug that was going around, Ginobili will return to form, and rebounding won't be an issue because the Spurs are going to shoot lights out. Yep, Garcia has it all figured out.
lol didn't read

[Hoops Czar]

lol didn't read


Lol don't care.

[TheGreatYacht]

Well this is a website with real analysis and not brainless cheerleading like PS or PTR where they think we're gonna win every year no matter what...LMAO. Very true. These peeps want to hear nothing but Pop praise and Manu as* kissing.

[DesignatedT]

I think they have added players that can effectively eat minutes for declining players. Belli can eat minutes for Manu and they just added another big that can ease the minutes load Duncan/allow Duncan to take more games off against meaningless teams. Leonard is only going to get better and better. I expect him to play like a demon this season after losing in the Finals. We all would have liked to have had AK-47, but I think as long as they pick up a decent backup SF to go with what they already have they've got as good of a shot as they had last year. No one in the West really got better except Houston(in theory) and GS(still not championship caliber).

I agree. Just feel like the Spurs should try a little harder to improve the team when any season could be Tim's last at this point. Than this is all over.

[ChumpDumper]

lol real analysis

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm cool with the Spurs virtually running it back but in all likelihood, Duncan declines a hair compared to this season and Manu continues his rapid decline. Going to need monster years from Kawhi, Tiago, Joseph etc. if the Spurs want to have a realistic shot at doing anything. The Spurs needed to add a significant piece and they had the $ to do so. Pretty disappointing but expected.All because of who? Yup, Manu Ginobili.

[benefactor]

I agree. Just feel like the Spurs should try a little harder to improve the team when any season could be Tim's last at this point. Than this is all over.
It's hard to know what happened. The only real options that could have improved the Spurs from a 3/4 standpoint were Millsap and AK-47. We saw how much Millsap got. There is a very real chance that they reached out to Kirilenko and the price was simply too high. There is still time and assets to improve though. We'll see what happens.

[benefactor]

lol real analysis
lol indeed

[TheGreatYacht]

lol didn't readI don't read any negative comments about my Spurs. I hate people that dare to criticize Pop because he is a genius. Manu is as good as Michael Jordan IMO. I cover my eyes when someone criticizes Pop and Manu. I only retweet people that talk good about my Spurs. I hate people that call out my team's weaknesses because my Spurs are the best team in the world, they are perfect. I am proud of being a Popsucker and Manu fan boy.

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[benefactor]

I don't read any negative comments about my Spurs. I hate people that dare to criticize Pop because he is a genius. Manu is as good as Michael Jordan IMO. I cover my eyes when someone criticizes Pop and Manu. I only retweet people that talk good about my Spurs. I hate people that call out my team's weaknesses because my Spurs are the best team in the world, they are perfect. I am proud of being a Popsucker and Manu fan boy.

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[ElNono]

:lol

[CGD]

Well two more possible back-up SF options off the table: Wright to Blazers and Garcia stays with Rockets, per Woj.

Who is left aside from TMac and Casspi?

[TheGreatYacht]

didn't read lolMy response to criticism is "Didn't read" because I can't defend myself with facts. The truth hurts me. The world is a nice and wonderful place.

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[benefactor]

:lol
He's been begging me to engage him. What he doesn't seem to understand is that I don't take a shit then turn around and stick my hand in it.

[DesignatedT]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[benefactor]

LMAO. Very true. These peeps want to hear nothing but Pop praise and Manu as* kissing.


All because of who? Yup, Manu Ginobili.


I don't read any negative comments about my Spurs. I hate people that dare to criticize Pop because he is a genius. Manu is as good as Michael Jordan IMO. I cover my eyes when someone criticizes Pop and Manu. I only retweet people that talk good about my Spurs. I hate people that call out my team's weaknesses because my Spurs are the best team in the world, they are perfect. I am proud of being a Popsucker and Manu fan boy.

benefactor


My response to criticism is "Didn't read" because I can't defend myself with facts. The truth hurts me. The world is a nice and wonderful place.

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[Texas_Ranger]

Detroit gonna have a hell of a front line.

[benefactor]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Well that's it for Houston. Perhaps they do that deal for Anderson...which I'd prefer.

[Mel_13]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Ben Gordon
Charlie V
Josh Smith

Dumars peaked a long time ago.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
So are they not going to develop the Drummond-Monroe duo or are they playing Smith at SF?

[ElNono]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

well, he got paid... lol detroit

[spurs10]

It's hard to know what happened. The only real options that could have improved the Spurs from a 3/4 standpoint were Millsap and AK-47. We saw how much Millsap got. There is a very real chance that they reached out to Kirilenko and the price was simply too high. There is still time and assets to improve though. We'll see what happens. I reckon so. There must be one more move, you'd think. We haven't addressed the backup 3 and 1 yet. It's almost like the FO is doing everything but that. We are good at 2 & 4/5! :reading

[ElNono]

He's been begging me to engage him. What he doesn't seem to understand is that I don't take a shit then turn around and stick my hand in it.

lol troof

[timtonymanu]

What a shitty contract for a guy not even a franchise player

:lol Detroit

[timtonymanu]

well, he got paid... lol detroit

emo Spur fan probably thought he would come here for the MLE

[Sean Cagney]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 50s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Good, atleast he is not going to the Rockets.

[manufan10]

I thought Detroit would be a team trying to tank.

[benefactor]

Detroit with the "regretting it while the ink is drying" signing.

[Mel_13]

Exactly.

I feel safe in predicting that there will be contracts signed this summer that make Splitter's deal look like a bargain.

1. Mayo 3/24
2. Calderon 4/29
3. Josh Smith 4/56
4. Next?

[ducks]

ak47 for 38

[manufan10]

1. Mayo 3/24
2. Calderon 4/29
3. Josh Smith 4/56
4. Next?

Whatever Cuban offers Bynum.

[LakerHater]

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[Hoops Czar]

jj Hickson is still available. Oh wait, a good rebounder and low post scorer would make too much sense. That makes him the least likely candidate.

[elemento]

Ben Gordon
Charlie V
Josh Smith

Dumars peaked a long time ago.

With Monroe and Drummond over there, do they really plan to play him at the 3 ? Crazy how these teams wait for such a long to get rid crap contracts like Ben Gordon and Charlie V, just to give another crap contract to a Knucklehead.

Sometimes it feels great to be a Spur fan tbh, even when we know they stand pat most of the time :lol

[Mel_13]

Whatever Cuban offers Bynum.

Likely.

[TheGreatYacht]

He's been begging me to engage him. What he doesn't seem to understand is that I don't take a shit then turn around and stick my hand in it.Anyone that dares to criticize my Spurs doesn't know a thing about basketball. If you don't agree that the Spurs are the best team in the NBA, then you don't know shi* about basketball. I don't waste my time on people that talk negative about my Spurs.

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[TheGreatYacht]

jj Hickson is still available. Oh wait, a good rebounder and low post scorer would make too much sense. That makes him the least likely candidate.The guy plays ZERO defense.

[benefactor]

LMAO. Very true. These peeps want to hear nothing but Pop praise and Manu as* kissing.


All because of who? Yup, Manu Ginobili.


I don't read any negative comments about my Spurs. I hate people that dare to criticize Pop because he is a genius. Manu is as good as Michael Jordan IMO. I cover my eyes when someone criticizes Pop and Manu. I only retweet people that talk good about my Spurs. I hate people that call out my team's weaknesses because my Spurs are the best team in the world, they are perfect. I am proud of being a Popsucker and Manu fan boy.

benefactor


My response to criticism is "Didn't read" because I can't defend myself with facts. The truth hurts me. The world is a nice and wonderful place.

- benefactor

Anyone that dares to criticize my Spurs doesn't know a thing about basketball. If you don't agree that the Spurs are the best team in the NBA, then you don't know shi* about basketball. I don't waste my time on people that talk negative about my Spurs.

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[palangi]

Anyone that dares to criticize my Spurs doesn't know a thing about basketball. If you don't agree that the Spurs are the best team in the NBA, then you don't know shi* about basketball. I don't waste my time on people that talk negative about my Spurs.

- benefactor
damn are you 13?

[TheGreatYacht]

With Monroe and Drummond over there, do they really plan to play him at the 3 ? Crazy how these teams wait for such a long to get rid crap contracts like Ben Gordon and Charlie V, just to give another crap contract to a Knucklehead.

Sometimes it feels great to be a Spur fan tbh, even when we know they stand pat most of the time :lolI hate to agree but yeah you're right.

[TheGreatYacht]

damn are you 13?Nah bro, I just like mocking these ridiculous Spurs homers on ST. They're not that different from Kobetards and Lebrontards TBH.

[Darkwaters]

Damn, Josh Smith going to Detroit.

That sucks. Who intentionally goes to Detroit?

[Hoops Czar]

The guy plays ZERO defense.

His defense has improved in each of the last three seasons and he's never played in defensive system like the Spurs. they could use another big off tne bench who can score and rebound. This is a no-brainer. oh, did I mention he's 24?

[elemento]

Damn, Josh Smith going to Detroit.

That sucks. Who intentionally goes to Detroit?

Who gets paid big time. I would love to live in Detroit with a 56m contract :lol

[freetiago]

I was hoping Smith goes to Houston
just sag of him and zone up Howard
Asik is a player Bud would like to coach as well

If the Asik/Anderson swap happens then its over tbh
might as well punch their tickets to the Finals

Smith on Detroit makes no sense for a team trying to tank
I actually liked the core they built but Smith ruins it

[manufan10]

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[benefactor]

Well there goes one SF option.

[LakerHater]

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[ElNono]

:lol Woj looks like the official spokesperson of the league, tbh

[coyotes_geek]

Who gets paid big time. I would love to live in Detroit with a 56m contract :lol

I would too...................and then demand a trade to a different city two years into it. :)

[Mel_13]

Dorell Wright
Omri Casspi
Ronnie Brewer
Francisco Garcia

Brewer's the only one left. The other three have all been signed since last night.

[Mel_13]

:lol Woj looks like the official spokesperson of the league, tbh

And even he can't get contract numbers from the Spurs

[coyotes_geek]

Brewer's the only one left. The other three have all been signed since last night.

Where did Dorell go? I missed that one.

[ElNono]

Where did Dorell go? I missed that one.

Portland, earlier today

[loveforthegame]

Damn. I wanted Casspi. :td

[Mel_13]

Where did Dorell go? I missed that one.

Portland. Likely for the room exception.

[Darkwaters]

Who gets paid big time. I would love to live in Detroit with a 56m contract :lol

Yea, but it's not like nobody else was offering him big time money. He could have easily lived someone acceptable without much (if any) of a paycut.

[ducks]

lots of 2 year deals
howard can opt out after 3 years also

[DesignatedT]

Spurs won't sign Brewer. Can't shoot.

[Blizzardwizard]

Nah bro, I just like mocking these ridiculous Spurs homers on ST. They're not that different from Kobetards and Lebrontards TBH.

Are you Bruce from that youtube channel or something, or just a fanboy?

Posting all his videos.
Using his phrases such as "Kobetards".

[coyotes_geek]

And even he can't get contract numbers from the Spurs

That just tells me that the Spurs are keeping their options open. Both Belinelli and Pendergraft could be paid out of the MLE or some other avenue that would still allow capspace to be used at this point. Looks to me like the Spurs want to see what the cap figure is before finalizing details.

Either that, or the Spurs counterintelligence unit is just Woj-proof.

[coyotes_geek]

Portland. Likely for the room exception.

Thanks.

[Nathan89]

Might as well get AK now that the backup plans have been signed by other teams.

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you Bruce from that youtube channel or something, or just a fanboy?

Posting all his videos.
Using his phrases such as "Kobetards".LOL, nah but I do follow Bruceblitz a lot. Bruce watches every single game during the 82 regular season schedule for every team. Bruce knows his shi* unlike these Spurs homers on ST that claim "you don't know shi* about basketball" if you dare to criticize Pop and Manu.

[DPG21920]

That just tells me that the Spurs are keeping their options open. Both Belinelli and Pendergraft could be paid out of the MLE or some other avenue that would still allow capspace to be used at this point. Looks to me like the Spurs want to see what the cap figure is before finalizing details.

Either that, or the Spurs counterintelligence unit is just Woj-proof.

Agreed. That is the one thing that gives me hope that the Beli/Pendegraph contracts are fluid. The most likely thing is they end up both coming from the MLE, but the fact no specific details on where they are coming from leads me to believe that the Spurs have a plan and are exploring options. You don't mention specifics when you are unsure where you will have to pay them from.

[Mel_13]

Agreed. That is the one thing that gives me hope that the Beli/Pendegraph contracts are fluid. The most likely thing is they end up both coming from the MLE, but the fact no specific details on where they are coming from leads me to believe that the Spurs have a plan and are exploring options. You don't mention specifics when you are unsure where you will have to pay them from.

tbh, the Spurs never mention specifics. Even after the press conference to introduce the player.

[Spur-Addict]

Dorell Wright to Portland

[DesignatedT]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 9m
As for Pistons, word around league is they aren't done. GM Joe Dumars continues hunt for dead-eye perimeter shooter.
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Gary Neal possibly?

[coyotes_geek]

Gary Neal possibly?

He's gotta be on the short list.

[jyra]

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Let's hope Pendergraph got a contract like that.

[Bruno]

That's a really cheap contract for Casspi so it obviously draw the question: Has he picked Rockets over Spurs or have just Spurs no try to get him?

[CGD]

Wow, so much for josh smith going to Houston. Wonder what this means for Asik. I thought I saw rumblingsof a trade for Rondo somewhere above.

[ElNono]

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[Atl Spur]

Toronto may be a nice trading partner or dare I say Portland?!?

[slick'81]

AK should b on someone's radar soon enuff

[Darkwaters]

Toronto may be a nice trading partner or dare I say Portland?!?

Don't expect Portland to ever do anything to help us

[loveforthegame]

That's a good deal for Landry.

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

1. Mayo 3/24
2. Calderon 4/29
3. Josh Smith 4/56
4. Next?

4. Jack 4/25

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

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Damn so GS is losing both Jack and Landry? And now Barnes is coming off the bench? I think the Warriors might have regressed.

[slick'81]

We should hear about AK with most of the big names coming off the board

[timtonymanu]

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Good news for the Spurs. He was the only player they couldn't stop against Golden State.

[DesignatedT]

Good to see Cleveland spending money.

[kobyz]

great move by cavs, Jack at that price is bargain!

[ChumpDumper]

Nah bro, I just like mocking these ridiculous Spurs homers on ST. They're not that different from Kobetards and Lebrontards TBH.12?

[crc21209]

Damn. Alot of key free agents signing with scrub teams. :lol Better for us. Josh Smith to Detroit, Landry to Sac, and Jack to Cleveland.

[houston spurs fan]

Local Houston sports radio: in love with Howard. Say they have surpassed the Spurs and only team they will not say they are better than now is OKC. Even have people from SA calling in scared....

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Local Houston sports radio: in love with Howard. Say they have surpassed the Spurs and only team they will not say they are better than now is OKC. Even have people from SA calling in scared....
Lots of radio hosts here in Southern California thought Dwight would kill the Spurs before the playoffs.

[houston spurs fan]

Shaq calling Houston a "little town". Like saying Shazam was a blockbuster movie

[houston spurs fan]

Local Houston sports radio: in love with Howard. Say they have surpassed the Spurs and only team they will not say they are better than now is OKC. Even have people from SA calling in scared....
SA resident after SA resident calling in admitting Houston is the favorite in the Division.

[Bruno]

The Howard choice has really had a snowball effect on free agents. There are now only left very few UFA who can pretend at a relatively big contract: Mo Williams, Monta Ellis, Kirilenko, Corey Brewer, Bynum, Hickson and Kaman.

[kobyz]

Breaking News - Brooklyn Nets has reached agreement with free agent forward AK47, the deal will be for the minimum and a promise from owner to buy for AK47 an hotel in Russia!! - Yahoo Sport

[houston spurs fan]

Hater called in and said RJ put the Jazz over the top ...

[TheGreatYacht]

353618051368878080Wouldn't it have been nice if the Spurs had signed Jarrett Jack to replace Manu and become that backup PG to Tony Parker that we desperately need? He is costing a little less than Manu. Not only that, but he is also probably coming off the bench for Kyrie Irving. Good fuc*ing shi* RC and Pop. I hate you'll.

[Mel_13]

4. Jack 4/25

I wouldn't put him on the list. That's just a small premium over the MLE.

[Mugen]

Jack's deal isn't that bad compared to someone like OJ Mayo or Josh Smith. Little longer than you'd like but really not that bad considering he came off a strong season.

[Aremid]

Wouldn't it have been nice if the Spurs had signed Jarrett Jack to replace Manu and become that backup PG to Tony Parker that we desperately need? He is costing a little less than Manu. Not only that, but he is also probably coming off the bench for Kyrie Irving. Good fuc*ing shi* RC and Pop. I hate you'll.

That's goes against the concept of loyalty our franchise preaches so well. Too bad "loyalty" hasn't won us shit the past 7 years.

[objective]

Don't the Clippers still have the MLE?

They would be a nice spot for AK if he deigns to accept that little since the Spurs probably won't have it.

[apalisoc_9]

Breaking News - Brooklyn Nets has reached agreement with free agent forward AK47, the deal will be for the minimum and a promise from owner to buy for AK47 an hotel in Russia!! - Yahoo Sport

STFU..

I almost believed you. Almost:lol

[Bruno]

Don't the Clippers still have the MLE?


Nope, they gave most of it to Matt Barnes.

[Mel_13]

Don't the Clippers still have the MLE?

They would be a nice spot for AK if he deigns to accept that little since the Spurs probably won't have it.

Pretty sure they used a good chunk of the MLE to retain Matt Barnes.

[Seventyniner]

Nope, they gave most of it to Matt Barnes.

So the Clippers' Early Bird rights weren't enough to use an exception rather than the MLE?

[Bruno]

So the Clippers' Early Bird rights weren't enough to use an exception rather than the MLE?

They didn't have early bird right. They had non bird rights and it wasn't enough.

[CGD]

Gary Neal possibly?

I think it'd have to be, not sure how many such shooters are left. Not sure if theyre high on Jaberko still now that Singer seems to start for them at SF, but one of those two could be a nice backup SF option in a S&T involving Neal and De Colo. Pistons really don't have a natural PG.

[Mel_13]

So the Clippers' Early Bird rights weren't enough to use an exception rather than the MLE?

They didn't have early Bird Rights. He was coming off a one year vet min deal.

[loveforthegame]

Good deal for Jack too. :tu

Thankfully we won't have to worry about him now.

[RD2191]

Local Houston sports radio: in love with Howard. Say they have surpassed the Spurs and only team they will not say they are better than now is OKC. Even have people from SA calling in scared....

:lmao. Rockets

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao. Rockets
Its good to get the laughs out of the way in July.

[rjv]

countdown to the "howard sucks" takes in h-town

[dbestpro]

Houston better get use to hack a Howard, and watching their fast break become a crawl.

[Vic Petro]

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[Interrohater]

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THIS makes me ecstatic about having signed Splitter early. (even though he was infuriating throughout the finals)
Its exactly what most of thought would happen; pure, unadulterated panic by those teams who lost out on Howard.

[Vic Petro]

THIS makes me ecstatic about having signed Splitter early. (even though he was infuriating throughout the finals)
Its exactly what most of thought would happen; pure, unadulterated panic by those teams who lost out on Howard.

Yes Dallas going in on Bynum also makes me think they would've chased Tiago. Would've killed 2 birds with one stone for them by weakening the Spurs.

[ElNono]

Wouldn't it have been nice if the Spurs had signed Jarrett Jack to replace Manu and become that backup PG to Tony Parker that we desperately need? He is costing a little less than Manu. Not only that, but he is also probably coming off the bench for Kyrie Irving. Good fuc*ing shi* RC and Pop. I hate you'll.


I see a lot of disappointment in your future, tbh :lol

:lol

[Baam]

Tiago would have been a bad fit next to Dirk, they need a true center who can rebound and be tough in general...

[CGD]

Surprised by the silence on Pek. I have to think that someone is preparing a large offer sheet to lure him away from Minni in the wake of Howard.

[Mel_13]

Tiago would have been a bad fit next to Dirk, they need a true center who can rebound and be tough in general...

Wouldn't have stopped Cuban from offering him a ridiculous deal. Just imagine Cuban if he couldn't get Bynum to take his money.

[DesignatedT]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 6m
Hearing Devin Harris is on his way back to Dallas. Mavericks and Harris are closing in on three-year, $9+ million deal

[TheGreatYacht]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 6m
Hearing Devin Harris is on his way back to Dallas. Mavericks and Harris are closing in on three-year, $9+ million deal Call me a hater or not but couldn't the Spurs have gone after Devin Harris instead of Marco B.? I'm starting to think that RC and the FO are either dumb and ignorant or they're just lazy to go out and recruit players. That is such a cheap deal. Wish we could of gotten him as a backup PG to Tony Parker.

[Robz4000]

Devin Harris is beyond done. If the Spurs' FO was as retarded as you, they'd be the Bucks.

[My Fault]

Call me a hater or not but couldn't the Spurs have gone after Devin Harris instead of Marco B.? I'm starting to think that RC and the FO are either dumb and ignorant or they're just lazy to go out and recruit players. That is such a cheap deal. Wish we could of gotten him as a backup PG to Tony Parker.

You must be a new Spurs fan. Could only imagine the stupidity you would've spilled in the previous off-seasons.

[Obstructed_View]

Devin Harris is beyond done. If the Spurs' FO was as retarded as you, they'd be the Bucks.

I think Harris' price tag is a little steep, but if you want a backup point guard who can run the offense similar to the way Parker does it, Harris might have been an option. Harris is less done than Beaubois, who would also have been a good fit, style wise.

[Robz4000]

I think Harris' price tag is a little steep, but if you want a backup point guard who can run the offense similar to the way Parker does it, Harris might have been an option. Harris is less done than Beaubois, who would also have been a good fit, style wise.

If it were a few years ago I'd agree, but the couple times I saw him last season he looked awful.

[ElNono]

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[Obstructed_View]

If it were a few years ago I'd agree, but the couple times I saw him last season he looked awful.

You could be right. I didn't see him at all in Atlanta, or didn't notice him if I did. He was pretty good against the Spurs in the playoffs in 2012.

[Solid D]

Call me a hater or not but couldn't the Spurs have gone after Devin Harris instead of Marco B.? I'm starting to think that RC and the FO are either dumb and ignorant or they're just lazy to go out and recruit players. That is such a cheap deal. Wish we could of gotten him as a backup PG to Tony Parker.

Well, okay. You sound like a hater. Is it too much to ask to show a little maturity today? I haven't gotten too involved in all the chatter but this thread is a central posting area for signings. It's sort of annoying.

[manufan10]

I wouldn't put him on the list. That's just a small premium over the MLE.

Yeah, for some reason I kept thinking it was 3/25 even though I knew it was 4/25.

[barakz21]

3/9M deal for Harris? Sounds like a good deal to me, though I'm not sure I'd want him on the team. This was the guy who people were saying WOULD own TP, and look at how that ended. Since he got to NJ, he wasn't able to do anything, save for one good season stats-wise.

[houston spurs fan]

:lmao. Rockets
Not sure why lol the Rockets when landing largest FA of the last decade save LeBron. Literally several Spurs fans calling scared to death. Some guy named Hater called in and said Jazz are the favorites with acquisition of Jefferson...

[houston spurs fan]

Daryl Morey taking a shit and a urine on the league...

[Seventyniner]

They didn't have early bird right. They had non bird rights and it wasn't enough.

Thanks. I misunderstood Early Bird rights, it seems.

[DesignatedT]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Darren Collison, I'm told, is going to the Clippers. Done deal. Two-year deal, player option in Year 2

[DesignatedT]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS 18s
Earl Watson has agreed to a deal with Portland, agent Mark Bartelstein says.

[Mugen]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Darren Collison, I'm told, is going to the Clippers. Done deal. Two-year deal, player option in Year 2

Great news.

[DesignatedT]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 33s
PG Darren Collison gets 2-year deal with Clippers using portion of mid-level exception with players option in second season, source tells Y!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So Clippers split the MLE between Barnes and Collison. Hmmm.

[spurraider21]

Spurs reportedly in talks with Anthony Morrow. At first it was interest, now they're talking. Not sure why this makes sense at all after picking up Belinelli

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[apalisoc_9]

Not a lot of good free agents left in the market.

Don't know if it's a good sign in terms of trying to get Ak47 or not...

[apalisoc_9]

Spurs reportedly in talks with Anthony Morrow. At first it was interest, now they're talking. Not sure why this makes sense at all after picking up Belinelli

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Looks like there's an incoming trade....

[spurraider21]

Looks like there's an incoming trade....

with whom and for whom?

[apalisoc_9]

with whom and for whom?

I have no idea tbh, but we're loaded with guards. If they're speaking with morrow, i'm postive they're thinking of trading a guard or maybe letting go of mills...

[MeloHype]

Another shooting guard that plays no D wtf are we doing

[manufan10]

Spurs reportedly in talks with Anthony Morrow. At first it was interest, now they're talking. Not sure why this makes sense at all after picking up Belinelli

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Do they really need another SG?

[Baam]

Green is getting traded. He's the role player with the most value, by far.

[spurraider21]

Do they really need another SG?

:pop: anthony morrow will play power forward

[loveforthegame]

I like Morrow but not sure how he fits here now.

[Baam]

Feels like the Green + Bonner package might really be on the table, we got/talked to potential replacements for both of them...

[Strategic]

Detroit with the "regretting it while the ink is drying" signing.I was pretty impressed with what the Pistons have done since the Rip Hamilton debacle, but now they give Josh Smith 56 mil? hmmphf

[TD 21]

I wouldn't assume this necessarily means there would be a trade. They haven't prioritized having a logical amount of players at each position for years. They're routinely overstocked at SG and PF and understocked everywhere else (this is no longer an issue at PG or C, obviously). So if they don't like the options available at SF, stupid as it would be, they might not sign one.

Morrow makes no sense. He hasn't been the all-time great three-point shooter in the making he once appeared to be for three years now. Granted, given the looks he'd get on the Spurs, he probably would eclipse 40% again, but still. He can't do anything else even close to average and can't play SF.

For a coach that loves to play small, I don't understand the aversion to big wings/combo forwards. They are the key to being able to play small.

[spurraider21]

:lol they're not trading Green. he's got 2 years 8 million left and is worth more than that to us

[DesignatedT]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 40s
Word is Bucks pushing very hard to wrap up deal to get Georgian center Zaza Pachulia out of Atlanta, Georgia. Hearing $5M range per year

[Texas_Ranger]

I am assuming De Clolo or Mills are getting traded.

[Baam]

I wouldn't assume this necessarily means there would be a trade. They haven't prioritized having a logical amount of players at each position for years. They're routinely overstocked at SG and PF and understocked everywhere else (this is no longer an issue at PG or C, obviously). So if they don't like the options available at SF, stupid as it would be, they might not sign one.

Morrow makes no sense. He hasn't been the all-time great three-point shooter in the making he once appeared to be for three years now. Granted, given the looks he'd get on the Spurs, he probably would eclipse 40% again, but still. He can't do anything else even close to average and can't play SF.

Makes no sense unless he's the actual Neal replacement and Beli is Green's replacement...

Green + Bonner for Batum or Ilyasova or even Asik...

[raybies]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine (http://www.spurstalk.com/ESPNSteinLine?p=s)
21s (http://www.spurstalk.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/353697887533797377?p=p)


Bucks' pursuit of Pachulia, I'm told, on course to go down as a three-year pact in the $5 mil ballpark annually

[ElNono]

I'm not buying the Morrow storyline at all...

[raybies]

me neither...

[TD 21]

Makes no sense unless he's the actual Neal replacement and Beli is Green's replacement...

Green + Bonner for Batum or Ilyasova or even Asik...

They're not trading Green. He's an integral part of the team and is quickly becoming one of the best bargains in the league. If it did lead to a trade, it would be De Colo or Mills.

As for the players you listed, that package wouldn't get it done for any, nor do they need any.

[Strategic]

This non news on Neal, Blair and Bonner is ...........................

[lmbebo]

Dont understand Morrow news unless he's getting a non guaranteed deal for training camp. Maybe drop Mills or De Colo?

Not sure

[coyotes_geek]

I'm not buying the Morrow storyline at all...

Me either. Probably just tweets about pre-Belinelli conversations getting recycled. Or, team Morrow just trying to keep other teams thinking there's more competion for his services.

[Johnny RIngo]

Too bad "loyalty" hasn't won us shit the past 7 years.

Spurs are loyal to Manu and he repays them by spitting in the face of Duncan and the franchise by playing bullshit FIBA ball. Faggot needs to retire and go back to Argentina already. He's already bled the team dry.

[Sean Cagney]

Devin Harris is beyond done. If the Spurs' FO was as retarded as you, they'd be the Bucks.

:lol

[objective]

Morrow was a scrub getting DNPs and 5 minutes a game for the garbage Mavs. He's no more a part of next year's Spurs than Deshaun Thomas.

[Sean Cagney]

Green is getting traded. He's the role player with the most value, by far.

HELL NO...... No way they let him go after these playoffs.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Zaza to Bucks, 3yr $15M

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

God damn the Bucks are making fucking dumb moves

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol what has zaza done to warrant that contract :lol

[spursince#99]

De Colo is a lock to get traded.

[Biggems]

De Colo is a lock to get traded.

would it be possible to trade de colo and bonner or sign neal and then trade bonner, de colo, and neal?

[coyotes_geek]

would it be possible to trade de colo and bonner or sign neal and then trade bonner, de colo, and neal?

Yes.

[spursince#99]

would it be possible to trade de colo and bonner or sign neal and then trade bonner, de colo, and neal?

They both are possibilities I suppose. I know the first one is, but I'm not sure we'd have the cap space to sign Neal now after signing Pendergraph.

[Biggems]

Yes.

what would we get out of it? I am thinking cap space (so we can sign AK47), maybe a draft pick or two, or even another player.

[coyotes_geek]

what would we get out of it? I am thinking cap space (so we can sign AK47), maybe a draft pick or two, or even another player.

There's really no way to answer that question. All of the above, none of the above, something in between.

[Biggems]

There's really no way to answer that question. All of the above, none of the above, something in between.

good point.....with RC and Pop, we are all grasping at straws not even the slightest of clues as to which direction they will maneuver

[CGD]

I was pretty impressed with what the Pistons have done since the Rip Hamilton debacle, but now they give Josh Smith 56 mil? hmmphf
I don't know man, Dummars has been off his rocker for some time now. They've drafted decently in recent years, but he also held on to Stuckey for way too long just for the sake of being stubborn. Also, Charlie Viilanueva and Ben Gordon...

Not sure how this signing is going to work out for them. Most concerned about it disrupting the promising young big an tandem.

[Chinook]

Yeah, they gave up a pick to move Gordan, which is pointless since they already had tons of cap space this season anyway.

[slick'81]

5mil per for zaza guess splitter at 8+ isn't too bad

[Baam]

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[Darkwaters]

5mil per for zaza guess splitter at 8+ isn't too bad

Good call on that one. I'm not too upset about Splitter.

[Drom John]

lol what has zaza done to warrant that contract :lol

182nd WS
182nd highest salary = $3,524,880 (Epke Udoh)

[timvp]

That Zaza contract is ludicrous.

[Seventyniner]

That Zaza contract is ludicrous.

No kidding. People who call Splitter overpaid should look no further.

[Baam]

No kidding. People who call Splitter overpaid should look no further.

He's overpaid, the fact that there's worse contracts doesn't make it any better. There's a shit ton of bad contracts in the league...

[ChumpDumper]

If there are that many bad contracts in the league, they raise the level for all contracts. So, paradoxically, resulting bad contracts aren't that bad. Imagine how bad they would be without artificial market restraints.

[Mel_13]

He's overpaid, the fact that there's worse contracts doesn't make it any better. There's a shit ton of bad contracts in the league...

Of course it does. If we're to have any sort of rational discussion about "good deals" and "bad deals" there has to be some common frame of reference. These deals can't be evaluated in a vacuum (or a bubble, as someone often says). They have to be compared to some sort of standard. That standard could be contracts received by similar players. It could be the reasonable assets that a team could have acquired if they had not signed a particular player. It could be the player's economic value to the team. I'm sure there are others, but there must be an agreed upon standard of some sort.

[playblair]

blair has been in vegas.................story is legit..........................
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[Baam]

^ he'd be a good fit as a Griffin backup...

[lmbebo]

I haven't heard of any news regarding Brandon Jennings so far this off season.

Not surprising either..

[Baam]

I haven't heard of any news regarding Brandon Jennings so far this off season.

Not surprising either..

Well I'm kinda surprised that Dallas went with an older player like Calderón while there's still Teague and Jennings out there .

[Birn]

Well I'm kinda surprised that Dallas went with an older player like Calderón while there's still Teague and Jennings out there .

Jose Calderon is a very under-rated PG. He'll be solid for Dallas.

[Mel_13]

Well I'm kinda surprised that Dallas went with an older player like Calderón while there's still Teague and Jennings out there .

Teague and Jennings are both restricted free agents.

[LakerHater]

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[Bruno]

Gelabale for the min would make sense for Spurs.

[LakerHater]

Yeah, Spurs worked him out 2 yrs ago!

[Random5843]

An All-French team?

Parker
De Colo
Gelabale
Livio
Diaw

[Texas_Ranger]

I have a feeling Gelabale will be our backup SF.

[playblair]

Gelabale..................... :toast

[Jumi]

I have a feeling Gelabale will be our backup SF.

This

[Bruno]

From last February:
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/02/06/notes-on-a-shootaround-tony-time-in-minnesota/


Popovich said the Spurs have had interest in the past about bringing in Gelebale.

“We’ve looked at him before,” Popovich said. “We just never really had a position there. He’s somebody we thought about a lot over the last couple of years.”

[Random5843]

Is there a French lobby in San Antonio or what?

[LakerHater]

http://www.projectspurs.com/2011-articles/june/spurs-working-out-former-nba-player-mickael-gelabale.html

[Texas_Ranger]

The problem is that Gelabale could get a better offer from Europe.

[DesignatedT]

The problem is that Gelabale could get a better offer from Europe.

A chance to play with Tony, Boris and Nando could be enough though. I'm not sure what their relationship is like with one another but I imagine it's a pretty good one.

[playblair]

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[raybies]

...

Stuckey/Siva
Knight/Caldwell-Pope/English
Smith/Singler
Monroe/Villanueva/Mitchell/Jerebko
Drummond/Kravtsov

Anybody from the Pistons we could trade for?
Maybe Singler... or a 2nd round pick

They are looking for a pg and a sharpshooter. Nando and Neal?

[objective]

Jerebko maybe

Not really a SF, but he could be useful. Overpaid, but useful.

[LakerHater]

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[TD 21]

Middleton would make the most sense. I know they were really high on him when they drafted him, as they guaranteed his first two seasons, a rarity for a second round pick.

But even after they officially sign Smith and their draft picks, they should still have enough cap space to sign Neal outright, so there's no need for them to surrender a prospect they're high on, at a position they lack depth at.

[objective]

only if they believed a Spurs threat to match. Even giving the Spurs a trade exception should that be possible with their cap situation might be useful.

[ducks]

neal with the pistons would be great
he could not hurt spurs in playoffs

[Ron Swanson]

@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/354007471716704257)The Denver Nuggets have reached agreement on a three-year, $15 million deal with free agent J.J. Hickson, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Robz4000]

:lol Nuggets

Wait, misread that. Thought it was for $25mil. Not a bad signing tbh.

[Baam]

That's a great backup for Faried.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not a bad deal for Denver, but their frontcourt is very redundant, tbh..

Their average defense is going to drop to the bottom by losing Iggy and adding Hickson, tbh..

Still like the signing, though..they needed a big that can create scoring opportunities..

[Bruno]

There were some rumors about Mozgov going back to Russia earlier today.

[DPG21920]

I'd rather have Hickson than Beli/Pend if the Spurs were going to spend 5M anyways IMO.

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd rather have Hickson than Beli/Pend if the Spurs were going to spend 5M anyways IMO.

3/15 is a steal.

[TD 21]

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
Hearing: Bucks & Carlos Delfino are closing in on three-year deal after Rockets forced to part w/Delfino to create cap space for Dwight

[LakerHater]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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I don't see how that is even feasible

[Robz4000]

Could the Spurs actually plan on going into next season with one SF on the roster?

[DPG21920]

I don't see how that is even feasible

They could amnesty MWP and give him the MLE.

[jyra]

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I would be shocked if Kaman takes the Mini-MLE to play for a weakened Lakers Team.

[ducks]

NO

[TheGoldStandard]

Could the Spurs actually plan on going into next season with one SF on the roster?
There are so many different things that could happen its quite possible. Spurs have tried to do some questionable things in the past like convert SG to PG so who knows.

[xmas1997]

Could the Spurs actually plan on going into next season with one SF on the roster?


I'm afraid that is what is going to happen.:(:(

[TheGoldStandard]

They could amnesty MWP and give him the MLE.

Shoot then that would be a discount for a big that's still serviceable.

[ducks]

I am not spurs are not that stupid

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers amnestying MWP to sign Kaman would be great for the Spurs, tbh..

[TE]

There have been reports that LA will keep Pau and will likely use the amnesty on Peace. The Spurs can pick up MWP tbh

[Mel_13]

They could amnesty MWP and give him the MLE.

Or Kaman's stock has really fallen and he's willing to take the mini-MLE.

[Robz4000]

I'd like the idea of MWP coming to the Spurs, but IMO he'll end up elsewhere. He strikes me as one of those players that say positive things about the Spurs but when given the chance to play with them will turn it down and join the competition.

[TheGoldStandard]

Or Kaman's stock has really fallen and he's willing to take the mini-MLE.

Yup, could be. Hickson took 15Mil for 3 years..

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd like the idea of MWP coming to the Spurs, but IMO he'll end up elsewhere. He strikes me as one of those players that say positive things about the Spurs but when given the chance to play with them will turn it down and join the competition.

His brother is a huge Spurs fan, too, tbh..trivial, but could play a factor..

[DPG21920]

Or Kaman's stock has really fallen and he's willing to take the mini-MLE.

Worse than ZaZa or Hickson? If he takes the mini-mle it's because everyone is willing to take less to play in LA.

[Mel_13]

Worse than ZaZa or Hickson? If he takes the mini-mle it's because everyone is willing to take less to play in LA.

Except Dwight.

[Baam]

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
Hearing: Bucks & Carlos Delfino are closing in on three-year deal after Rockets forced to part w/Delfino to create cap space for Dwight

Feels like they have one of the worst FO in the league right now.

Send us the Greek Freak for De Colo please...

[Robz4000]

His brother is a huge Spurs fan, too, tbh..trivial, but could play a factor..

Yeah, I've seen that posted a couple times. Doesn't he troll Laker fans on LG? :lol

[Mel_13]

Feels like they have one of the worst FO in the league right now.

Send us the Greek Freak for De Colo please...

Two decades teetering between low playoff seeds and late lottery picks. Almost always mediocre. Never any reason for hope.

[apalisoc_9]

Feels like they have one of the worst FO in the league right now.

Send us the Greek Freak for De Colo please...

Greek Freak?

I'm assuming you're talking about the turkish dude..

[Mel_13]

Greek Freak?

I'm assuming you're talking about the turkish dude..

draft pick:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Adetokunbo-7223/

[DesignatedT]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3m
The Atlanta Hawks are negotiating with Monta Ellis, per a source. I'm hearing deal would be about $10 million a year. Not sure about years.
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[DesignatedT]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 30s
Grizzlies, Warriors, Bobcats are latest teams to express interest in Anthony Morrow. Lakers, Spurs, Suns, Rockets, Knicks reached out too.

[xmas1997]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 30s
Grizzlies, Warriors, Bobcats are latest teams to express interest in Anthony Morrow. Lakers, Spurs, Suns, Rockets, Knicks reached out too.


What, Spurs still searching? I thought they were done already!:wow