2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[LakerHater]

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[ducks]

Marc Stein@ESPNSteinLine .


So both Corey Brewer and Kevin Martin, by day's end, on course to be Wolves. Latest scenario calls for Bucks to take on Ridnour to help MIN

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canishoopus@canishoopus .


RT @VJL_bball: JerryZgoda Howlintwolf Defense is cheap maybe best perimeter defender of the past decade (T. Allen) just signed for $5m pe…

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Marc Stein‏@ESPNSteinLine30s
Warriors just announced they've picked up 2014-15 option on coach Mark Jackson's contract

[LakerHater]

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[DesignatedT]

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Rockets GM Daryl Morey announced the team has acquired the draft rights to Marko Todorovic (left) and Kostas Papanikolaou (right), as well as two future second-round draft picks from Portland for forward Thomas Robinson.

STORY: http://on.nba.com/12Zzrx6

[LakerHater]

DAMN, 2 guys & 2 2nd round pix!

[LakerHater]

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[coyotes_geek]

Let's just all take a moment to let that phrase "Samuel Dalembert as prime target" sink in..............

[monkeypunk]

Let's just all take a moment to let that phrase "Samuel Dalembert as prime target" sink in..............

Dallas is gonna be awesome next season, :lol

[rjv]

mavs just need to tank and give themselves a shot at wiggins

[coyotes_geek]

mavs just need to tank and give themselves a shot at wiggins

That would be the smart thing to do. But Cuban's pride will prevent them from doing that.

[LakerHater]

Per NBA: Stu Jackson To Step Down as EVP, Basketball Operations; Rod Thorn Named President, Basketball Operations

[Samr.]

Dallas is gonna be awesome next season, :lol

Cuban said he was gonna do something with that money. He didn't lie.

Does this off-season officially mean he is disqualified from being an investor on "Shark Tank"?... Or maybe that's why they call it "Shark TANK"

[monkeypunk]

Cuban said he was gonna do something with that money. He didn't lie.

Does this off-season officially mean he is disqualified from being an investor on "Shark Tank"?... Or maybe that's why they call it "Shark TANK"

:lol but you've got to feel bad for Dirk. Not getting any younger and his teammates so far aren't going to get them very far...

[ducks]

Marc Stein‏@ESPNSteinLine1m
Another shooter bound for the Rockets: Reggie Williams to Rockets on two-year minimum deal. Team option in Year 2

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)The Chicago Bulls have officially waived Richard Hamilton, per press release.

[TheGoldStandard]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)The Chicago Bulls have officially waived Richard Hamilton, per press release.




Dallas is on the phone

[Knoxxx]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)The Chicago Bulls have officially waived Richard Hamilton, per press release.




Perfect for us we need a 9th guard!

[LakerHater]

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[Drewlius]

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Glad he's staying in the East, on the off-chance he gets back to serious game-shape.

[Texas_Ranger]

Cleveland gonna have a pretty nice team.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Andrew Bynum's deal w/ Cleveland will include $6 million of $12M guaranteed in year 1, league source says. Team option of $12.5M for 14-'15.

[LakerHater]

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[DesignatedT]

That's a pretty solid deal for Cleveland actually.

[TheGoldStandard]

That's a pretty solid deal for Cleveland actually.

If he's healthy then they get a lot for so little..

[yavozerb]

If he's healthy then they get a lot for so little..

Well, he is definatly not healthy cause he cost himself millions by not going through a practice prior to contract talks. Not a bad gamble by the cleveland though, but Bynum well never be 100% in my opinion again, they need to do the TD treatment on him for the coming season and see what they can get out of him.

[DesignatedT]

Maybe Dirk and the Mavs will agree on a buyout and he can sign here. :lol wouldn't blame him after looking at Dallas' roster.

[TheGoldStandard]

Well, he is definatly not healthy cause he cost himself millions by not going through a practice prior to contract talks. Not a bad gamble by the cleveland though, but Bynum well never be 100% in my opinion again, they need to do the TD treatment on him for the coming season and see what they can get out of him.

Absolutely, don't think he'll ever be 100% after the knee issues but he wasn't mentally into anything given that the 76ers flat our suck. Cleveland isn't much better but he might have 1 season in him to showcase something.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Heard there will be a No Bowling clause in Bynum's contract.

[raybies]

We must be one of the few teams that didn't announce signings today. That must mean there's at least another avenue left.

[Russ]

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Cue another "decision" in two years (if he's any good) . . .

[Kindergarten Cop]

Heard there will be a No Bowling clause in Bynum's contract.

:clap

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent center Sam Dalembert will meet with Mavericks officials on Thursday in Dallas, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[spurraider21]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent center Sam Dalembert will meet with Mavericks officials on Thursday in Dallas, league sources tell Y! Sports.

:lol dalembert was intruiging 4 years ago

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent center Sam Dalembert will meet with Mavericks officials on Thursday in Dallas, league sources tell Y! Sports.




IF were Dirk would be pissed. you had a championship caliber team that would have been so for at least the next 2-3 years and instead, Cuban blows it up trying to sign Paul or Deron plus Howard and stuck out. Now you are signing scraps from this year's FA and Dirk is going to 36 next year and it looks like the Mavs aren't going to pull any significant signings in next FA as well with the contracts they are shelling out right now.

When are GMs going to realize that players like Paul, Deron, and Howard AREN'T going to win you championships. Team players and chemistry are going to win you championships. You had the best defensive C in the league. One of the bench PGs in JJ. HOF PG starting. You a good backup to Marion in Brewer at SF. You had starting SG in Butler who fit your system prefectly. And you let all that chemistry go in pursuit of Big Name players that haven't DONE JACK in the past 5 years playoff wise.

That is why I am glad the Spurs don't take this approach going into the offseason.

[DesignatedT]

Kobe Bryant says don’t assume he wants to take a pay cut to help Lakers next summer

“I’m not taking any at all – that’s the negotiation that you have to have.” Kobe Bryant told Lakers Nation in an exclusive interview at his Kobe Basketball Academy on Wednesday. “For me to sit here and say, ‘Oh yeah, I’m just going to take a huge pay cut. Nah, I’m going to try to get as much as I possibly can.”

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/10/kobe-bryant-says-dont-assume-he-wants-to-take-a-pay-cut-to-help-lakers-next-summer/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Robz4000]

L:lolkers

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Restricted free agent guard Jeff Teague plans to sign a four-year, $32 million-plus offer sheet with Milwaukee, league sources tell Y!

[TheGoldStandard]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Restricted free agent guard Jeff Teague plans to sign a four-year, $32 million-plus offer sheet with Milwaukee, league sources tell Y!




Ellis to Atl is the feeling I get.

[Robz4000]

Since when is Jeff Teague worth that much? The Bucks are fucking retarded.

[Chinook]

And now Jennings to Atlanta? He'd be a good fit there if the team wants to try to play him in a Parker-style offense.

[Sean Cagney]

Since when is Jeff Teague worth that much? The Bucks are fucking retarded.

We all can agree there on the BUCKS.

[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(http://twitter.com/EricPincus)I have the Atlanta Hawks at about $17.2 million in cap space based on estimates for Millsap/Korver/Carroll but sulia.com/my_thoughts/e9… (http://t.co/LOjr5rd0Uy)


Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel
(http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel)I recall someone mentioning a Ridnour for Udoh trade back on draft day. Still a real possibility.

[Big P]

Nobody wants to play in Milwaukee...they have to pay players basically double to play there..look at all their signings...they are worth %50-75 of their contracts.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)After reaching an impasse with RFA Gerald Henderson, Charlotte's exploring sign-and-trade possibilities with multiple teams, sources tell Y!

[coyotes_geek]

Nobody wants to play in Milwaukee...they have to pay players basically double to play there..look at all their signings...they are worth %50-75 of their contracts.

Precisely why I like the Bucks as a target to take on someone like Bonner. It's a lot easier to convince a team to send a player to milwaukee than it is to convince a player to volunteer to sign there.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)After reaching an impasse with RFA Gerald Henderson, Charlotte's exploring sign-and-trade possibilities with multiple teams, sources tell Y!




Can he play SF?

:stirpot:

[coyotes_geek]

Just something to keep in mind, the Clippers have a $1.6 mil trade exception that expires tomorrow and there have been rumors of them being interested in Blair.

[Samr.]

Back in the day "re-signing your own guys and getting a few fringe pieces at fairly reasonable prices" would have netted a team a C+ in any reasonable off-season power ranking.

Now, given the moves this off-season, simply by "not paying twice market value for risky and/or injured acquisitions while also not trading away at least one of your young, valuable assets for pennies on the dollar" should net a team at least an A- in any reasonable off-season power ranking.

Either the Spurs and a very select few other teams in the league read the new CBA completely different than everyone else, or everyone else but those teams is operating in some kinda weird reverse-Matrix world.

[rjv]

Can he play SF?

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not at 6'5"

[ace3g]

Looks like his shot is correctable, has a high release point (hard to defend). Looking at his game logs from last season, put up good assist # (shows he is a willing play maker for a G/F).

Good finisher at the basket.

6'5 does have me worried though.

[TheGoldStandard]

No more guards

[coyotes_geek]

His 3 point percentage did go up this year, but he only shot 100 of them this year. I'm not sure that's a big enough sample size to pass judgement that he's actually improving. The difference between the 33% he shot this year and 28% is only 5 makes over an 82 game season.

[Sean Cagney]

No more guards

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[LakerHater]

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[DesignatedT]

I'd take him if the AK deal falls through.

[Chinook]

I'd have taken him of Belinelli easily. Now, it'd be horrible.

[therealtruth]

IF were Dirk would be pissed. you had a championship caliber team that would have been so for at least the next 2-3 years and instead, Cuban blows it up trying to sign Paul or Deron plus Howard and stuck out. Now you are signing scraps from this year's FA and Dirk is going to 36 next year and it looks like the Mavs aren't going to pull any significant signings in next FA as well with the contracts they are shelling out right now.

When are GMs going to realize that players like Paul, Deron, and Howard AREN'T going to win you championships. Team players and chemistry are going to win you championships. You had the best defensive C in the league. One of the bench PGs in JJ. HOF PG starting. You a good backup to Marion in Brewer at SF. You had starting SG in Butler who fit your system prefectly. And you let all that chemistry go in pursuit of Big Name players that haven't DONE JACK in the past 5 years playoff wise.

That is why I am glad the Spurs don't take this approach going into the offseason.

The irony is the Mavs held a fairly stable roster after they got Jason Kidd.

[Sean Cagney]

I'd take him if the AK deal falls through.

That already fell through IMO.

[DesignatedT]

That already fell through IMO.

Well once it officially can't happen anymore we'll never know.

[Sean Cagney]

Well once it officially can't happen anymore we'll never know.
What are they waiting for! I just want news him here or him not here, then we can move on.

[TheGoldStandard]

What are they waiting for! I just want news him here or him not here, then we can move on.

Maybe they really are going to get rid of Bonner and him and Pop are on a road trip together.. one last moment.

[Sean Cagney]

Maybe they really are going to get rid of Bonner and him and Pop are on a road trip together.. one last moment.

YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

[playblair]

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[Sean Cagney]

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LOL NICE TOUCHUP THERE SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[objective]

Woj reporting that Billups is going back to Detroit.

[raybies]

Yah. That's interesting. It was for more than the veterans minimum.

[Drom John]

Since when is Jeff Teague worth that much? The Bucks are fucking retarded.

Teague was 58th in WS last year.
Duncan had the 58th highest salary at a bargain $9,638,554.

When was Jeff Teague worth $9,638,554? 2012-2013.

[DesignatedT]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 18s
Report: Heat might use amnesty on Joel Anthony or Mike Miller http://dlvr.it/3dz2ls

[rjv]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 18s
Report: Heat might use amnesty on Joel Anthony or Mike Miller http://dlvr.it/3dz2ls


tax relief ? they are 13 mil over from what i recall.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Yes, which means that will be paying 3 times that in tax money next year. I think they will amnesty Anthony which basically will be a wash with the Heat resigning Birdman for the full mini MLE.

Funny thing they should have amnesty Anthony before he exericised his player option. Now they have to pay him an extra 3.8mil.

[Robz4000]

Teague was 58th in WS last year.
Duncan had the 58th highest salary at a bargain $9,638,554.

When was Jeff Teague worth $9,638,554? 2012-2013.

Tim Duncan took a huge pay cut to help the Spurs bring in new pieces to win a championship. The Bucks had to overpay to get a marginally above-average PG to come play for a franchise going nowhere.

[Chinook]

Funny thing they should have amnesty Anthony before he exericised his player option. Now they have to pay him an extra 3.8mil.

They couldn't.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Minnesota has emerged as a strong frontrunner to sign free agent Ronny Turiaf, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Chinook]

:lolTuriaf has front-runners?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

They couldn't.

No, I am talking about during the season last year. They should have cut him when they signed Birdman.

[Chinook]

No, I am talking about during the season last year. They should have cut him when they signed Birdman.

They still couldn't. He could pick up his option even if they had waived him.

[rjv]

turiaf has to be bad if he's french and the spurs have shown no interest

[coyotes_geek]

turiaf has to be bad if he's french and the spurs have shown no interest

:lol That is pretty damning evidence against the guy.

[RD2191]

:lolTuriaf has front-runners?

[coyotes_geek]

Turiaf should hold off on Minnesota. The rate Dallas is burning through free agent options his turn has got to be getting close. :)

[Maddog]

Turiaf should hold off on Minnesota. The rate Dallas is burning through free agent options his turn has got to be getting close. :)

Bidding war

[rjv]

Turiaf should hold off on Minnesota. The rate Dallas is burning through free agent options his turn has got to be getting close. :)

no kidding. cuban is acting like that dude in the bar at 1:45 AM that has yet to hook up and will take whatever he can get...

[tesseractive]

no kidding. cuban is acting like that dude in the bar at 1:45 AM that has yet to hook up and will take whatever he can get...
:lmao

[coyotes_geek]

no kidding. cuban is acting like that dude in the bar at 1:45 AM that has yet to hook up and will take whatever he can get...

:lol

Truth.

[ducks]

The Mavericks will get "legit consideration" from unrestricted free agent Greg Oden.
The Spurs and Heat are still the frontrunners to sign Oden, but the Mavs may have a little more money to offer. The Mavs are in a bit of scramble for a center after missing on Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum, so Oden is a real option for them. It's worth noting that NBA.com's David Aldridge said that Oden could wait until August to make a decision. Dallas is also considering a deal with Samuel Dalembert. Source: Marc Stein on Twitter Jul 11 - 11:32 AM


http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nba/211277/dal-to-get-legit-consideration-from-greg-oden

[playblair]

turiaf has to be bad if he's french and the spurs have shown no interest

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[timtonymanu]

So glad we ended up with Diaw instead of Turiaf during the lockout year.

[tesseractive]

So glad we ended up with Diaw instead of Turiaf during the lockout year.
I'd like to think that if we hadn't landed Diaw we would have made a stronger play for Lorbek that summer. I'd still much rather have Diaw, though.

[monkeypunk]

I'd like to think that if we hadn't landed Diaw we would have made a stronger play for Lorbek that summer. I'd still much rather have Diaw, though.

I think that they were planning on bringing Lorbek over when Diaw kind of fell in their lap. I recall that his current team had offered him a contract but he didn't sign it until the day (or the day after) we signed Diaw.

Diaw is a better all around player, I think, so it all worked out.

[DesignatedT]

Lorbek Lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Lorbek Lol

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Jeff McDonald
‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 35m To my knowledge, AK47 thing is inactive. But things can always change. RT Paully_eFFerson Targeting AK47 or is/are there other(s)?Reply Retweet Retweeted
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Embed Tweet 1:04 PM - 11 Jul 13 Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 35m To my knowledge, AK47 thing is inactive. But things can always change. RT Paully_eFFerson Targeting AK47 or is/are there other(s)?Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet mwelnack ‏@mwelnack 33m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson who were they offering?Details Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet spursfan4life ‏@thehalestone 20m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson Minny has renounced rights to AK47. S&T off the table. Would have to sign as UFA by clearing cap space.

[monkeypunk]

Jeff McDonald
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Embed Tweet 1:04 PM - 11 Jul 13 Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 35m To my knowledge, AK47 thing is inactive. But things can always change. RT Paully_eFFerson Targeting AK47 or is/are there other(s)?Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet mwelnack ‏@mwelnack 33m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson who were they offering?Details Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet spursfan4life ‏@thehalestone 20m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson Minny has renounced rights to AK47. S&T off the table. Would have to sign as UFA by clearing cap space.

What the duck does that say?

[TheGoldStandard]

What the duck does that say?

I just caught the tail end of that that says Minny renounced AK47

[monkeypunk]

I just caught the tail end of that that says Minny renounced AK47

Thanks but I was just giving ducks some shit.

[ElNono]

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[playblair]

:wakeup

[bklynspursfan]

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[LakerHater]

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[benefactor]

:lol

[Chinook]

Wow, Robinson is short.

[elemento]

Wow, Robinson is short.

Yeah I had the same thought. Wright is 6'7 and Robinson is barely taller than him

[TD 21]

Actually, Wright is 6-9. The reason Robinson looks short is that he's next to Lopez, who despite the 7-0 listing, is really closer to 7-2.


Jorge Sierra: Nick Young is headed to the Lakers, (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/hoopshype.html) agent Mark Bartelstein says.

[rjv]

Actually, Wright is 6-9. The reason Robinson looks short is that he's next to Lopez, who despite the 7-0 listing, is really closer to 7-2.


Jorge Sierra: Nick Young is headed to the Lakers, (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/hoopshype.html) agent Mark Bartelstein says.

with our without the hair ?

[DesignatedT]

Robinson is 6'8.75' with shoes on.

[kobyz]

Breaking News - Brooklyn Nets has reached agreement with free agent forward AK47, the deal will be for the minimum and a promise from owner to buy for AK47 an hotel in Russia!! - Yahoo Sport

hey i predicted it much earlier... and us as spurs fans should not hold hope and any expectations at any subjects anymore, cause no matter what we are a cursed team, always had been and after the last final we could all say goodbye!

[tesseractive]

hey i predicted it much earlier... and us as spurs fans should not hold hope and any expectations at any subjects anymore, cause no matter what we are a cursed team, always had been and after the last final we could all say goodbye!
:cry :cry

[TheGoldStandard]

hey i predicted it much earlier... and us as spurs fans should not hold hope and any expectations at any subjects anymore, cause no matter what we are a cursed team, always had been and after the last final we could all say goodbye!

Pendergraph FTW.... going to develop a TD post game.

[ace3g]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
(http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt)Agent Mark Bartlestein says F Ronny Turiaf will sign with the Timberwolves.

[ace3g]

Jerry Zgoda @JerryZgoda
(http://twitter.com/JerryZgoda)Wolves agree to terms w/ Ronny Turiaf to two-year, $3.2M deal, agent Mark Bartelstein says

[Chinook]

I hope the Wolves trade Derrick Williams for scraps then he ends up always destroying them like Randy Moss did to the Cowboys.

[Robz4000]

I hope the Spurs find a way to get Derrick Williams tbh. Prolly won't happen after the T-Pups refused to trade with them tho.

[TheGoldStandard]

I hope the Spurs find a way to get Derrick Williams tbh. Prolly won't happen after the T-Pups refused to trade with them tho.

:pop:: Over my dead Bonner

[alfredbird]

When we have a chance to know the detail of spurs new contracts with Manu, Tiago and Beli?

[Sean Cagney]

hey i predicted it much earlier... and us as spurs fans should not hold hope and any expectations at any subjects anymore, cause no matter what we are a cursed team, always had been and after the last final we could all say goodbye!

SHYT me and you both did, but I was called negative Nancy by someone even after it said talks broke off without a damn deal lol. Anyone could see that coming but people being delusional about it.


I don't know about a cursed team though and always have been when some crazy shots in big series have gone our way and 4 titles! I mean some teams cursed and haven't won since the 70's or never have! Thats a real cursed team there. Spurs though the last few years or so, yeah they have had some shit go against them. Since 98 this all started.

[playblair]

re-sign blair......................
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[Chinook]

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[Chinook]

Although he does have to officially sign with the Spurs in order to complete a sign-and-trade.

[Sean Cagney]

re-sign blair......................
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JUST SHOOT US IF WE BRING back Neal, Blair and Bonner.......

[TheGoldStandard]

JUST SHOOT US IF WE BRING back Neal, Blair and Bonner.......

Only 1 roster spot left, lol. would be some shit if we cut Baynes to bring back blair

[Sean Cagney]

Only 1 roster spot left, lol. would be some shit if we cut Baynes to bring back blair

NO NO NO NO NO NO..... GOD NO! NO.

[Ice009]

Spurs off season has been all fizzle, no pop!

I thought the Spurs could have added one really decent player with the mid-level exception, or even a higher paid player if Manu and Splitter took a little less money each. If they offered to do that and the Spurs still struck out on their targets, that would have been OK, then RC could have offered them their current contracts. I don't know, I'd rather win than take a couple of million more, that's just me though, not sure if anything like that was ever on the table.

[kobyz]

SHYT me and you both did, but I was called negative Nancy by someone even after it said talks broke off without a damn deal lol. Anyone could see that coming but people being delusional about it.


I don't know about a cursed team though and always have been when some crazy shots in big series have gone our way and 4 titles! I mean some teams cursed and haven't won since the 70's or never have! Thats a real cursed team there. Spurs though the last few years or so, yeah they have had some shit go against them. Since 98 this all started.

4 titles in the Duncan era is in spite of the curse, that's how great of a player Tim is, but it should have been 7-8 titles in proper world...

[Sean Cagney]

4 titles in the Duncan era is in spite of the curse, that's how great of a player Tim is, but it should have been 7-8 titles in proper world...

LOL yeah, 7 or 8! Being if damn Horry does not hit that shot in 05 one less! That is three! If in 07 we don't pass the SUNS that series which they were a real threat that is two! Memorial DAY MIRACLE DOES NOT FALL! Maybe just one! So yeah it should have been 6 IMO but it could have been less too! Hell IF HORRYS SHOT FALLS IN 03 in game 5 forget it! We are stuck on ONE! GET IT? Okay.

That is life you get some breaks and you don't get some breaks, we had a few, accept it and live with it.

[spursince#99]

Worst off-season of all time.

[chapnis]

Worst off-season of all time.

This must be your first off-season as a Spurs fan or something?

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just got firm word that Cavs -- after signing Andrew Bynum -- are no longer pursuing Greg Oden. Mavs now IN Oden race led by Spurs & Heat


I just don't see the interest in Oden for the Spurs, he isn't a SF/small ball PF.

[Ice009]

I want Oden. It's that simple. Don't care about anyone else on the market. I want to take the risk on Oden. I've been looking at him since before the Spurs signed Baynes last season.

[ace3g]

The Spurs already have bigs on their roster they can develop without the risk of injury and wasting roster spot; Spurs need another SF/small ball PF

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just got firm word that Cavs -- after signing Andrew Bynum -- are no longer pursuing Greg Oden. Mavs now IN Oden race led by Spurs & Heat


I just don't see the interest in Oden for the Spurs, he isn't a SF/small ball PF.

Drafting DeShaun Thomas might give the Spurs the edge here. He said he has been playing some pickup ball and worked out with him at OSU for awhile now. It appears that they are good friends.

Because this reason I think the Spurs are actually are in driving seat to sign Oden if he does make a comeback, that is if they want to sign him.

[coyotes_geek]

The Spurs already have bigs on their roster they can develop without the risk of injury and wasting roster spot; Spurs need another SF/small ball PF

If the Spurs got Oden it woudl be on a league min contract. It's worth a shot. There aren't any SF's worth anything in free agency, so if the Spurs are going to get a guy at that position who actually has a chance of contributing something this year it's going to be via a trade.

[Spur-Addict]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just got firm word that Cavs -- after signing Andrew Bynum -- are no longer pursuing Greg Oden. Mavs now IN Oden race led by Spurs & Heat


I just don't see the interest in Oden for the Spurs, he isn't a SF/small ball PF.

Upside if he stays healthy for short term and long term. Even if his ceiling (due to health) is a back up center, I have no problem with that at all. Everyone talks about rim protection and rebounding once Duncan sits. A guy like that covers up perimeter defensive woes (as you already know). We have two guards that get little to no playing time as it is, who have not had any impact on our team aside from morale boasting. One of which, let the media know he wasn't particularly happy about not playing. So I have no issue moving either to sure up the SF position if Oden is acquired.

[ducks]

spurs sign oden and he plays well they can keep him or trade him

[ace3g]

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry (https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry) Word at the Orlando Summer League is the Toronto Raptors have offered Dwight Buycks their backup point guard job. Buycks has accepted.

[Ice009]

The Spurs already have bigs on their roster they can develop without the risk of injury and wasting roster spot; Spurs need another SF/small ball PF

Doesn't matter. Oden is worth taking a chance on.

[Bruno]

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry (https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry) Word at the Orlando Summer League is the Toronto Raptors have offered Dwight Buycks their backup point guard job. Buycks has accepted.

Not really a surprise. He had a terrific year in France, ending with the MVP title.

[Bruno]

If Spurs get Oden, they will start to have a lot of centers with Duncan, Splitter, Baynes, Oden and Pendergraph (Rc said he could play C). He might allow them to trade way Baynes.

With Bonner, De Colo, mills and Baynes, Spurs could absorb in a trade over $10M for players that aren't really in Spurs rotation. All 4 have an expiring contract.

[rjv]

If Spurs get Oden, they will start to have a lot of centers with Duncan, Splitter, Baynes, Oden and Pendergraph (Rc said he could play C). He might allow them to trade way Baynes.

With Bonner, De Colo, mills and Baynes, Spurs could absorb in a trade over $10M for players that aren't really in Spurs rotation. All 4 have an expiring contract.

that would probably make more sense to try around the trade deadline. assuming we got oden, it would be prudent to see if mr. glass can last to the mid season without shattering something.

[xmas1997]

I hope they get Oden, it would best for him. And isn't DRob his idol? If he can stay healthy (big IF) he could anchor the C spot for a long time after TD retires.

[Bruno]

Oden was terrific the last time he played in the NBA in 09-10. He had a 23.1 PER in 21 games before being injured. He is also only 25 years old. For a minimum salary, signing him is a no-brainer.

A very low risk, very high reward case

[xmas1997]

Oden was terrific the last time he played in the NBA in 09-10. He had a 23.1 PER in 21 games before being injured. He is also only 25 years old. For a minimum salary, signing him is a no-brainer.

A very low risk, very high reward case


That is my only hope to salvage this off season, but unless he has the smarts to see that SA is the best place for him and his career, then he goes to Miasma or Dildos!

[TE]

Oden was terrific the last time he played in the NBA in 09-10. He had a 23.1 PER in 21 games before being injured. He is also only 25 years old. For a minimum salary, signing him is a no-brainer.

A very low risk, very high reward case
What are the chances he signs here

[monkeypunk]

Oden was terrific the last time he played in the NBA in 09-10. He had a 23.1 PER in 21 games before being injured. He is also only 25 years old. For a minimum salary, signing him is a no-brainer.

A very low risk, very high reward case

Absolutely worth a min contract but he'll end up with the Heat.

[TE]

Absolutely worth a min contract but he'll end up with the Heat.
It's the most likely scenario...which sucks

[xmas1997]

What are the chances he signs here


IMHO not very good since Miami and Dallas are after him too. Unless he really sees the resurrection of his career and the influence of DRob, TD, and Pop as aids to that, we have no chance. Major FAs rarely if ever come here unless they are really smart.

[TE]

IMHO not very good since Miami and Dallas are after him too. Unless he really sees the resurrection of his career and the influence of DRob, TD, and Pop as aids to that, we have no chance. Major FAs rarely if ever come here unless they are really smart.
Miami is an ideal place to go atm, I get the logic there...Dallas not so much imo

[ducks]

oden said he migh twait tell aug to make up his mind
miama and spurs are the frontrunners

[Bruno]

What are the chances he signs here

I would say Miami is the clear favorite.

Spurs huge edge is having, with Pop, the coach that take the more care of his players health. Even if Oden is playing at his 09-10 level, Pop won't overplay him at the cost of his knees.

[TE]

I would say Miami is the clear favorite.

Spurs huge edge is having, with Pop, the coach that take the more care of his players health. Even if Oden is playing at his 09-10 level, Pop won't overplay him at the cost of his knees.
Not to mention playing alongside Timmy D.

[ducks]

oden needs to be in training camp imo if he wants to see the floor
also oden would help spurs limit duncan minutes

[monkeypunk]

It's the most likely scenario...which sucks

It's crazy that no one wants to come here and be the "missing piece" to the champ puzzle for us. We don't need a huge boost but if we won, they'd be seen as a hero and command a higher salary on their next go-round. Yeah, I know Beli says Hi but I mean in general.

It's not rocket science.

[ace3g]

Maybe Timmy can entice Oden to sign with Spurs by giving Oden one of his "Punisher" type knee braces.

[xmas1997]

Unless they've been here before, SA isn't a high profile destination. Few know how good we have it here and I for one like it that way. Oden needs to realize that there are no income taxes in Texas and that Pop will take care of him and extend his career. Dallas and Miami will work him to death.

[TE]

Unless they've been here before, SA isn't a high profile destination. Few know how good we have it here and I for one like it that way. Oden needs to realize that there are no income taxes in Texas and that Pop will take care of him and extend his career. Dallas and Miami will work him to death.
Especially this...Miami struggles with bigger teams, Spo will play him 30+ mins a game at least.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Unless they've been here before, SA isn't a high profile destination. Few know how good we have it here and I for one like it that way. Oden needs to realize that there are no income taxes in Texas and that Pop will take care of him and extend his career. Dallas and Miami will work him to death.

Like I said, I think DeShaun will have alot of clot if Oden wants to sign with the Spurs are not. Oden knows the Spurs aren't going to wear him thin and will give him time to develop. Plus the Spurs trainer are the best in the League w/ only the Suns being better IMO. He can learn under Tim, his idol and he can have Thomas, one of his best friends on the team as well.

It would be the perfect scenario for him.

[xmas1997]

Like I said, I think DeShaun will have alot of clot if Oden wants to sign with the Spurs are not. Oden knows the Spurs aren't going to wear him thin and will give him time to develop. Plus the Spurs trainer are the best in the League w/ only the Suns being better IMO. He can learn under Tim, his idol and he can have Thomas, one of his best friends on the team as well.

It would be the perfect scenario for him.

Thomas is one of his best friends??? Where did you find this out, can you elaborate on this?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Thomas is one of his best friends??? Where did you find this out, can you elaborate on this?

There was an article that came out about two months ago how Thomas was saying how great Oden looked and how they have been working out together for awhile now. There was also an interview where he talks how he and Oden have become close over the past year and he feels like Oden will be making a comeback to the NBA.

Oden has been attending OSU to finish his degree the past couple of years if you didn't know that.

[xmas1997]

There was an article that came out about two months ago how Thomas was saying how great Oden looked and how they have been working out together for awhile now. There was also an interview where he talks how he and Oden have become close over the past year and he feels like Oden will be making a comeback to the NBA.
Oden has been attending OSU to finish his degree the past couple of years if you didn't know that.

If he is smart enough to go back to school and finish his degree then that says a lot about his character and his intelligence.
He should definitely choose the Spurs then.

[rjv]

the lifestyle in miami would not be conducive to the continuing growth of oden as a player and a person. the fact that SA is on his list is telling in of itself. not sure why bruno regards miami as the "clear favorite".

[Baam]

the lifestyle in miami would not be conducive to the continuing growth of oden as a player and a person. the fact that SA is on his list is telling in of itself. not sure why bruno regards miami as the "clear favorite".

Because they are by far the safest bet to get a ring...

[coyotes_geek]

Oden's got a better chance of being on the team than Thomas does next year. I dont' see an Oden-Thomas relationship making much of a difference here.

[xmas1997]

Oden's got a better chance of being on the team than Thomas does next year. I dont' see an Oden-Thomas relationship making much of a difference here.

Hope you're right because I wouldn't bet on Thomas making the team.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Because they are by far the safest bet to get a ring...

You may be right, but at this point in his career I'd think that Oden would be more worried about getting a decent chance to showcase his talents and secure a lucrative contract than he would about winning a ring. I'm not saying that he isn't seeking a chance to play for a ring - because obviously Miami and San Antonio are one and two on his list, but let's not forget that Cleveland, Boston, and Charlotte (who are obviously not Championship contenders) are on his short list after the two teams that met in the Finals. With that being said, if he can get quality minutes en route to winning/competing for a title, then he would be foolish not to take that option.

[BackHome]

Unless they've been here before, SA isn't a high profile destination. Few know how good we have it here and I for one like it that way. Oden needs to realize that there are no income taxes in Texas and that Pop will take care of him and extend his career. Dallas and Miami will work him to death.

The other thing is that Miami is a huge media market and I don't see him wanting all that attention if he doesn't know if he can make it. He seems to be a soft spoken guy and not a media whore like Lebron and Kobe..so I would think our little town would be more to his liking.

[xmas1997]

Most of us, who lived in other places, but were raised here, call San Antonio "a big city with a small town atmosphere". We are actually the 7th or 6th largest city in the USA!

[palangi]

a guy on the cheap that has looked good in the summer has been tyler honeycutt. he is a 6'8" guy with lots of length. rebounded well in the orlando league too. he was on the rockets team but is not under contract.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyler-Honeycutt-5247/

[cd98]

Absolutely worth a min contract but he'll end up with the Heat.

Probably, but that's not the best situation. Huge spotlight. If he fails, he'll be called out for it in Miami. And there are no bigs to mentor. Also, Miami runs their players into the ground. So even if he gets to play with Lebron, his overall development and health are a lot riskier in Miami.

[playblair]

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[Sean Cagney]

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GRRRRRRRRRRRR get him! Man we don't need the log jam at guards.

[Sean Cagney]

Worst off-season of all time.

There has been FAR worse! 07 sucked! I thought Scola was over here and on our team then he is gone and Bonner is back! Think of that. WE actually added a nice piece too in Belli, Pendergraph is a project but he is athletic and has a nice 15 footer. It is not a horrible offseason like you think because we wiffed on one guy.

[xmas1997]

GRRRRRRRRRRRR get him! Man we don't need the log jam at guards.


There has been FAR worse! 07 sucked! I thought Scola was over here and on our team then he is gone and Bonner is back! Think of that. WE actually added a nice piece too in Belli, Pendergraph is a project but he is athletic and has a nice 15 footer. It is not a horrible offseason like you think because we wiffed on one guy.

If you look back at it now, we never wiffed on anyone, AK was never really going to come here, it was all a Russian ruse.

[Bruno]

Knicks aren't an option for Neal. They can only offer him a $1.3M salary and they can't get him through S&T because they are above the apron.

[Sean Cagney]

If you look back at it now, we never wiffed on anyone, AK was never really going to come here, it was all a Russian ruse.

You are correct, the 100 pages even after they said deal was off and Spurs were out basically said what most of us knew. Spurs did what they could with what they had.

[bklynspursfan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)10s (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/355768998194974721)
Monta Ellis and Mavericks closing in on a three-year deal that could rise to as much as $30 million. Deal on course to be completed today

[xmas1997]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)10s (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/355768998194974721)
Monta Ellis and Mavericks closing in on a three-year deal that could rise to as much as $30 million. Deal on course to be completed today


Mavs getting the full Monte, ...... oops I mean Monta!

[loveforthegame]

Not sure what the Mavs are doing. Seems desperate.

Ellis, Harris, and Calderon?

[playblair]

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Knicks aren't an option for Neal. They can only offer him a $1.3M salary and they can't get him through S&T because they are above the apron.

bulls ?.................

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[Bruno]

bulls ?.................


No, they even have less money that Knicks and they can't get him in a S&T.

Bucks sounds like a legit rumor. They have the need for a player like him and the money to sign him.

[cd98]

So Neal's only realistic offer is the Bucks. Ouch. He's probably begging the Spurs to resign him, even at a reduced rate.

[crc21209]

:lol Ellis and :lol Mavs. There isnt anything going on in Dallas, why go there? I think I would've picked Atlanta > Dallas...

[playblair]

:wakeup

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources: Toe injury forces Mavs to shelve plan to re-sign fan favorite Devin Harris. Sides mutually agree to scrap three-year, $9M deal

[xmas1997]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources: Toe injury forces Mavs to shelve plan to re-sign fan favorite Devin Harris. Sides mutually agree to scrap three-year, $9M deal




Wow, that will hurt them.

[Chinook]

Dirk can't even get this DH...

[xmas1997]

The Mavs also lost their 1st round draft pick to a foot injury too. If it wasn't for bad luck they would have no luck at all. Cuban getting his karma.

[coyotes_geek]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources: Ellis agrees to join Mavs, Harris told to take a hike.




Edited for truthfulness........

[cd98]

I'd take Harris as a backup to Parker.

[TheGoldStandard]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just got firm word that Cavs -- after signing Andrew Bynum -- are no longer pursuing Greg Oden. Mavs now IN Oden race led by Spurs & Heat

Or a guard
I just don't see the interest in Oden for the Spurs, he isn't a SF/small ball PF.

[Sdayi135]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)11m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/356051655868944385)
Washington has interest in free agent DeJuan Blair, sources tell Y! Sign-and-trade a consideration, but Spurs may be unmoved by choices.

[xmas1997]

Wish Mavs would overspend for someone so that they would be OUT of the Oden race.

[playblair]

355867971605901312


In a move to seemingly revamp its entire backcourt, Milwaukee is also reportedly pursuing the acquisition of either Neal or Fredette.
"Meanwhile, once the market settles down, the Bucks could make a play (http://www.foxsportsohio.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/story/NBA-Report-Can-Cavs-offer-for-Bynum-be-t?blockID=919033&feedID=3724) for san Antonio Spurs guard Gary Neal or Sacramento Kings guard Jimmer Fredette, sources said," Amico wrote on Tuesday. "Fredette is clearly available, with the Kings seemingly expecting little but a late draft pick or two in return."





http://www.hngn.com/articles/7502/20130711/milwaukee-bucks-rumors-jeff-teague-signs-jimmer-fredette-gary-neal.htm

[LakerHater]

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[Bruno]

Bucks will have a lot of talking to do with Jennings. Good luck to them.

[Robz4000]

Wonder how this'll impact the Neal situation? Although he isn't a true PG, he still has experience at playing it. If the Bucks are unable to come to terms with Jennings, they may go for both him and Fredette.

[elemento]

That's bad news for the Bucks

Jennings is a delusional mofo and he wants 12m/year. He is not worth it. Not even close.

[Chinook]

Damn, that has to be awkward for Milwaukee.

Ferry with the wishy-washy, lull-the-other-team-into-a-false-sense-of-security-before-ripping-their-hearts-out goods. :lol

[Mel_13]

Lakers agreed to terms with SG Wesley Johnson...1-yr deal for vet's min of $1 mill. Was 4th pick in 2010 draft, played last season for PHX.

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan

[Chinook]

Sucks, but probably for the best. He'll get minutes there.

[coyotes_geek]

Lakers agreed to terms with SG Wesley Johnson...1-yr deal for vet's min of $1 mill. Was 4th pick in 2010 draft, played last season for PHX.

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan

Was kind of hoping the Spurs would take a chance on this guy. Oh well.

[Marcus Bryant]

Oden? Makes sense if you want to keep him off the Heat. Only example that comes to mind of an injury plagued big man turning into a reliable every day player is Ilgauskas.

I guess if the cost of the gamble is the vet min that's not a bad one for his talent. Still, it would take a roster spot you could use for a project or for real insurance on IR.

[loveforthegame]

Lakers have put together an interesting team.

[iManu]

And Fuck Oden.

/thread

[silverblk mystix]

Oden? Makes sense if you want to keep him off the Heat. Only example that comes to mind of an injury plagued big man turning into a reliable every day player is Ilgauskas.

I guess if the cost of the gamble is the vet min that's not a bad one for his talent. Still, it would take a roster spot you could use for a project or for real insurance on IR.



lol - worrying about a roster spot on a team that has wasted one with Bonner for years and years now...

[LakerHater]

356519871862931456 (https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/356519871862931456)

[yavozerb]

Lakers have put together an interesting team.

They are going to be horrible..Nash and Gasol well end up hurt by midseason and KB will not be able to able to play until midseason.

[Bruno]

With only the mini MLE and min contracts, Lakers have done a great job with Kaman, Nick Young, Wesley Johnson and Jordan Farmar. Saying that, it doesn't make them a good team and even making the playoffs will be difficult for them;

[loveforthegame]

With only the mini MLE and min contracts, Lakers have done a great job with Kaman, Nick Young, Wesley Johnson and Jordan Farmar. Saying that, it doesn't make them a good team and even making the playoffs will be difficult for them;

Yeah I don't expect them to make the playoffs either but I think they added some interesting pieces once DH left.

[ducks]

If I am lakers and they are not in the playoff race at about the allstar break

kobe proves he is healthy
I would field offerd for kobe. They need to rebuild.

[raybies]

Nash/ Blake
Bryant/ young
Johnson/ ?
Gasol/ hill
Kaman/ sacre
That ought to be good enough for at least 6th.

[ducks]

nash how many minutes can he play
going to take time to replace 2 out of 5 people in starting lineup chemistry wise

[yavozerb]

Nash/ Blake
Bryant/ young
Johnson/ ?
Gasol/ hill
Kaman/ sacre
That ought to be good enough for at least 6th.

sas,okc,hou,gsw,lac,den,mem all will finish ahead of LA in my opinion again. My sleeper for that 8th spot are the Pelicans.

[timtonymanu]

sas,okc,hou,gsw,lac,den,mem all will finish ahead of LA in my opinion again. My sleeper for that 8th spot are the Pelicans.

This could be just a homer pick since I'm from Portland, but I can see them surprising the league next season. They had the worst bench in the league last year but were a playoff contention for most of the season. Now with Lopez, Robinson, Wright, and McCollum added to their bench, I can see them being there next year.

[Robz4000]

I don't see Denver in the playoffs next year either tbh. I think two out of the T-Pups, Pelicans, and Blazers make the jump.

[LakerHater]

356630106736832515 (https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS/status/356630106736832515)

[Robz4000]

Did Brett Brown officially get announced as the new HC of the 76ers?

[LakerHater]

356667352902930432 (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/status/356667352902930432)

[sammy]

356667352902930432 (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/status/356667352902930432)

LOL @ MWP!:rollin:rollin

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Damn, that has to be awkward for Milwaukee.

Ferry with the wishy-washy, lull-the-other-team-into-a-false-sense-of-security-before-ripping-their-hearts-out goods. :lol

He totally played the Bucks. Jennings was asking for 12mil a year. He got Teague to accept an 8mil a year contract. Ferry instead of S&T, just match Teague's offer leaving the Bucks in an precarious situation now with Jennings.

Ferry can always tell Teague that he was their 1st option, can't say the same for the Bucks & Jennings.

[Chinook]

According to NBATV, James Anderson was just waived. The Spurs should pick him up off waivers, which would allow them to keep a potentially great long-term deal for him.

[MeloHype]

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[tesseractive]

According to NBATV, James Anderson was just waived. The Spurs should pick him up off waivers, which would allow them to keep a potentially great long-term deal for him.
Do we really want to use our last roster spot on a guy we cut last year who would be our 8th guard?

[coyotes_geek]

James Anderson? Been there, done that, no need to see it again.

[Robz4000]

Anderson can be a serviceable back-up 3 if needed. Should Thomas not keep up what he's doing at SL and the Spurs salary dump De Colo and/or Mills, I'd be fine with the Spurs picking him up.

[coyotes_geek]

Anderson can be a serviceable back-up 3 if needed.

So can Green and Manu.

[Robz4000]

So can Green and Manu.

I'd rather have Leonard and Green on the court together as much as possible. I advocated Manu at the 3 last season a bit, but his inability to stay healthy means the Spurs can't rely on him. It helps that Anderson is still an interesting prospect.

[jermaine]

I like Thomas. He's going tk pan out. Practicing against Kawhi should make him a beast. Or break him.

[bklynspursfan]

4 million for Brand? Not bad

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/hawks/2013/07/15/elton-brand-atlanta-hawks/2518219/

[Chinook]

Do we really want to use our last roster spot on a guy we cut last year who would be our 8th guard?

Invite him to training camp? Why not? He's signed for two more years that are fully non-guaranteed. So if he doesn't make the team cut him. If he blows up, he's really cheap still.

[coyotes_geek]

I'd rather have Leonard and Green on the court together as much as possible. I advocated Manu at the 3 last season a bit, but his inability to stay healthy means the Spurs can't rely on him. It helps that Anderson is still an interesting prospect.

Well, we're going to disagree about Anderson still being a prospect interesting enough to justify a permament roster spot. I get the guy got hurt as a rookie, but he hasn't shown much in the way of improvement over the last two years to suggest that there's a big developmental leap for him in the future.

[Robz4000]

Well, we're going to disagree about Anderson still being a prospect interesting enough to justify a permament roster spot. I get the guy got hurt as a rookie, but he hasn't shown much in the way of improvement over the last two years to suggest that there's a big developmental leap for him in the future.

I agreed with those that said the Spurs would be better fit to let him go last season, but his brief stint with the team last year when Jack and Leonard were out impressed me a bit. I'd love to see him get a preseason invite at the very least.

[timtonymanu]

Paranoid Pop will have his semen cup ready if James Anderson returns.

[cd021]

Do we really want to use our last roster spot on a guy we cut last year who would be our 8th guard?

Anderson is a small forward and on a vet minimum. Has some familiarity with he Spurs of course spending 3 seasons with us. He'd be playing 12 mpg and could finally have a chance to live up the 1st round pick we used on him (one of our rare 1st round misses)

[cd021]

The other thing is that Miami is a huge media market and I don't see him wanting all that attention if he doesn't know if he can make it. He seems to be a soft spoken guy and not a media whore like Lebron and Kobe..so I would think our little town would be more to his liking.

Miami and Orlando are actually rather small markets, with favorable attractions.

[cd021]

Not sure what the Mavs are doing. Seems desperate.

Ellis, Harris, and Calderon?

No Harris. Toe injury supposed two sideline him for 2 months. He can't sign with them yet.

[coyotes_geek]

Anderson is a small forward and on a vet minimum. Has some familiarity with he Spurs of course spending 3 seasons with us. He'd be playing 12 mpg and could finally have a chance to live up the 1st round pick we used on him (one of our rare 1st round misses)

Come on now. Anderson would be injury insurance / garbage time player if he came here, not a 12mpg rotation player.

[bklynspursfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)1m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/356850870178160641)
Metta World Peace has reached an agreement in principle on a two-year deal with the New York Knicks, league source tells Y! Sports.

[rjv]

nice to see the knicks finally bringing some mental and emotional stability to the team.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Brazilian center Victor Faverani has agreed in principle to sign a three-year deal with the Celtics, a source told Yahoo! Sports

[Chinook]

Well, we're going to disagree about Anderson still being a prospect interesting enough to justify a permament roster spot. I get the guy got hurt as a rookie, but he hasn't shown much in the way of improvement over the last two years to suggest that there's a big developmental leap for him in the future.

Picking him up off waivers doesn't give him a permanent roster spot. It keeps him on his extremely team-friendly deal and gives him a spot in training camp.

Also, despite the belief that Anderson hasn't improved since his rookie year, the numbers say otherwise. Every one of his advanced and per-36 stats went up with the exceptions of block percentage and defensive rating (and it's a good thing for that to go down). He went from failed starter to viable bench player. He'd be great wing insurance, and he probably would eventually get the minutes at the backup three. And if he's not, he just won't make the final roster. Doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

[yavozerb]

Picking him up off waivers doesn't give him a permanent roster spot. It keeps him on his extremely team-friendly deal and gives him a spot in training camp.

Also, despite the belief that Anderson hasn't improved since his rookie year, the numbers say otherwise. Every one of his advanced and per-36 stats went up with the exceptions of block percentage and defensive rating (and it's a good thing for that to go down). He went from failed starter to viable bench player. He'd be great wing insurance, and he probably would eventually get the minutes at the backup three. And if he's not, he just won't make the final roster. Doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

Who would you want to get rid to sign Anderson? I would prefer Diaw,manu,green at the 3 before Anderson and at sg he is even farther down the list. Not that Anderson is not any good, but just not good enough for the current spurs roster in my opinion.

[Chinook]

Who would you want to get rid to sign Anderson? I would prefer Diaw,manu,green at the 3 before Anderson and at sg he is even farther down the list. Not that Anderson is not any good, but just not good enough for the current spurs roster in my opinion.

You don't have to get rid of anyone. The team can have 20 players on the training-camp roster. If Anderson beats somebody out for their position, he can stay. If he doesn't, he gets waived again.

[yavozerb]

You don't have to get rid of anyone. The team can have 20 players on the training-camp roster. If Anderson beats somebody out for their position, he can stay. If he doesn't, he gets waived again.

Agree with you on TC invite but there is no way he would beat out any of the current players under contract. Thomas and Neal have more value than Anderson and are still on the outside looking in at a roster spot. Now if a trade occurs for multiple players then there is a possibilty but If I am anderson I go somewhere where I could realistically get a roster spot.

[Chinook]

Agree with you on TC invite but there is no way he would beat out any of the current players under contract. Thomas and Neal have more value than Anderson and are still on the outside looking in at a roster spot. Now if a trade occurs for multiple players then there is a possibilty but If I am anderson I go somewhere where I could realistically get a roster spot.

If a team picks a player up off waivers, he has to report to that team. Anderson is not a free agent until/unless he clears waivers.

Seeing as Thomas and Anderson would be signed to essentially the same contract to play the same position and are about the same age, I don't think Thomas is that far ahead of Anderson. As impressive as Thomas looks so far, Anderson's already had as good or better moments in the actual NBA. Add that he has shown that he can actually be productive as a small-forward in limited minutes, while we're all just hoping Thomas gets it, and I could see James getting the final spot easily.

But really, it would be best for Anderson to take De Colo's spot and Thomas to take the final spot, provided Neal does not return. That way there's no need to call Thomas up this season.

[TheGreatYacht]

If a team picks a player up off waivers, he has to report to that team. Anderson is not a free agent until/unless he clears waivers.

Seeing as Thomas and Anderson would be signed to essentially the same contract to play the same position are and about the same age, I don't think Thomas is that far ahead of Anderson. As impressive as Thomas looks so far, Anderson's already had as good or better moments in the actual NBA. Add that he has shown that he can actually be productive as a small-forward in limited minutes, while we're all just hoping Thomas gets it, and I could see James getting the final spot easily.

But really, it would be best for Anderson to take De Colo's spot and Thomas to take the final spot, provided Neal does not return. That way there's no need to call Thomas up this season.This. In a nutshell, De Colo needs to be gone. FO should hurry up on those negotiations with the Wizards if there are still any.

[yavozerb]

If a team picks a player up off waivers, he has to report to that team. Anderson is not a free agent until/unless he clears waivers.

Seeing as Thomas and Anderson would be signed to essentially the same contract to play the same position and are about the same age, I don't think Thomas is that far ahead of Anderson. As impressive as Thomas looks so far, Anderson's already had as good or better moments in the actual NBA. Add that he has shown that he can actually be productive as a small-forward in limited minutes, while we're all just hoping Thomas gets it, and I could see James getting the final spot easily.

But really, it would be best for Anderson to take De Colo's spot and Thomas to take the final spot, provided Neal does not return. That way there's no need to call Thomas up this season.

Dude, I have to disagree with you on comparing Anderson and Thomas. Thomas is almost 3 years younger than Anderson for starters. Anderson has had 3 seasons now to improve over his career and has not and thus he is simply trying to get invited to a camp to try and get a 1 yr contract again. Not going to say Thomas is the better NBA player since Thomas has yet to step on the floor of a regular season game, but he has youth, size, and and the fact that no one knows how good he can become in the future unlike Anderson who's stock has declined over the last 3 years. Not really sure about anderson over Nando yet but I damn sure about Thomas over anderson

[Bruno]

Spurs can't pick Anderson from waivers. He hasn't been signed to a min contract and Spurs don't have the cap space of the trade exception to claim him.

[Chinook]

Dude, I have to disagree with you on comparing Anderson and Thomas. Thomas is almost 3 years younger than Anderson for starters. Anderson has had 3 seasons now to improve over his career and has not and thus he is simply trying to get invited to a camp to try and get a 1 yr contract again. Not going to say Thomas is the better NBA player since Thomas has yet to step on the floor of a regular season game, but he has youth, size, and and the fact that no one knows how good he can become in the future unlike Anderson who's stock has declined over the last 3 years. Not really sure about anderson over Nando yet but I damn sure about Thomas over anderson

My bad about the age. I thought it was a year and a half and not two and a half years. But the size difference is overblown. Thomas is a quarter-inch taller than Anderson (6-4.75 to 6-5) and only 12 pounds heavier. He doesn't have any real physical advantage over Anderson.

Even if Anderson has reached his ceiling, he's at least as good as most rational people are expecting on Thomas. He puts up great per-minute stats, which is extremely important for a bench player who most likely will not see consistent minutes. His stock may be going down, but his stats say he's very productive:

http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=522&player_ids%5B%5D=389&player_ids%5B%5D=299&player_ids%5B%5D=528&player_ids%5B%5D=504&player_ids%5B%5D=113

Paranoid Pop was wrong to keep hyping Anderson over Green, but he was not wrong when he argued that Anderson was a much-improved player last season. If Houston didn't have a strong tendency to release young players with potential, I'd take him changing teams again as a red flag. But I don't think he's below a late-second-rounder who's impressing against players who largely will not see NBA minutes this season. That's not a big knock on Thomas. I like the kid, but he's getting massively overrated on this board right now. He's still much more likely to bust than to even be nearly as good as Anderson was last season.

[Chinook]

Spurs can't pick Anderson from waivers. He hasn't been signed to a min contract and Spurs don't have the cap space of the trade exception to claim him.

He was signed to a minimum deal according to Sham.