2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

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[BatManu20]

San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas) restricted free-agent center Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306) could command an offer sheet that averages $8.5 million to $9 million annually, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por) are expected to be a suitor for Splitter, league sources said. The Utah Jazz (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/uth)and Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/atl) have salary-cap space, a need for a young center and general managers – Dennis Lindsey and Danny Ferry, respectively – who were Spurs front-office executives when Splitter came into the organization.

The Spurs will be in a strong position to match an offer sheet and keep Splitter, because they'll free of Stephen Jackson's $10 million salary and expect to re-sign Manu Ginobili at a lesser salary than the $14.1 million he made this season.

The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports.

[SpursRock20]

^^^^^wtf?????^^^^^

nevermind. thought that Spurs had an interest in Budinger at first.

[manufan10]

Here's the Splitter part from that link:

Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306) to receive lucrative offer
San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas) restricted free-agent center Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306) could command an offer sheet that averages $8.5 million to $9 million annually, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por) are expected to be a suitor for Splitter, league sources said. The Utah Jazz (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/uth)and Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/atl) have salary-cap space, a need for a young center and general managers – Dennis Lindsey and Danny Ferry, respectively – who were Spurs front-office executives when Splitter came into the organization.
The Spurs will be in a strong position to match an offer sheet and keep Splitter, because they'll free of Stephen Jackson's $10 million salary and expect to re-sign Manu Ginobili at a lesser salary than the $14.1 million he made this season.
The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports.
– Adrian Wojnarowski, 10:56 p.m. ET, June 30

[Ron Swanson]

San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas) restricted free-agent center Tiago Splitter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4306) could command an offer sheet that averages $8.5 million to $9 million annually, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.


The Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por) are expected to be a suitor for Splitter, league sources said. The Utah Jazz (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/uth) and Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/atl) have salary-cap space, a need for a young center and general managers – Dennis Lindsey and Danny Ferry, respectively – who were Spurs front-office executives when Splitter came into the organization.


The Spurs will be in a strong position to match an offer sheet and keep Splitter, because they'll free of Stephen Jackson's $10 million salary and expect to re-sign Manu Ginobili at a lesser salary than the $14.1 million he made this season.


The baseline for a Splitter offer sheet will likely be the three-year, $25 million deal that Houston awarded center Omer Asik in free agency a year ago, sources told Y! Sports.

[BatManu20]

^Just pasted that.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Show loyalty, Tiago, or get the fuck out. We better not overpay. We have to add a good scoring guard and that has to be more important than Splitter. We'll just have to find a cheaper guy if push comes to shove. We HAVE to get another reliable scorer.

[benefactor]

I would expect the Spurs would match an 8/25 offer.

[manufan10]

I wonder if there are going to be any immediate signings at midnight or if it's going to be quiet.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I would expect the Spurs would match an 8/25 offer.

How much of the salary cap do we have available to spend?

[timtonymanu]

I wonder if there are going to be any immediate signings at midnight or if it's going to be quiet.

They usually don't start picking up until the first major free agent (Dwight Howard in this case) agrees with a team. But I wouldn't expect much the first day.

[stephen jackson]

9 mill lmao wowwww

[Big P]

They usually don't start picking up until the first major free agent (Dwight Howard in this case) agrees with a team. But I wouldn't expect much the first day.

Can't sign until the 10th.

[NASpurs]

So Gary Neal is also a RFA?

[manufan10]

So Gary Neal is also a RFA?

Yes, because the Spurs gave a Qualifying Offer.

[manufan10]

They usually don't start picking up until the first major free agent (Dwight Howard in this case) agrees with a team. But I wouldn't expect much the first day.

:tu

[ace3g]

Joe Freeman @BlazerFreeman
(http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman)The #Blazers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Blazers) and reps of C Chris Kaman are expected to meet face-to-face once free agency opens, per source w/ knowledge of the meeting.


Joe Freeman @BlazerFreeman
(http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman)According to the source, both Kaman and the #Blazers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Blazers) think the unrestricted free agent would be a “great fit” with team next season.

[Sense]

I'm interested to see if Splitter or Manu would take less money to stay.. especially after how it all went down in the finals.

[crc21209]

Why the hell are the Pelicans tied to every FA? First Iggy, now Evans. Do they even have money? Wasnt this a bankrupt team just a year or so ago...

[manufan10]

Joe Freeman @BlazerFreeman
(http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman)The #Blazers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Blazers) and reps of C Chris Kaman are expected to meet face-to-face once free agency opens, per source w/ knowledge of the meeting.


Joe Freeman @BlazerFreeman
(http://twitter.com/BlazerFreeman)According to the source, both Kaman and the #Blazers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Blazers) think the unrestricted free agent would be a “great fit” with team next season.








So are the Blazers going to keep pursuing Splitter, or are they focused more on Kaman?

[Texas_Ranger]

Blazers want to bring help to Aldridge (something the Spurs needed to do for Tim), so they will probably talk with all the good bigs.

[ElNono]

I'm interested to see if Splitter or Manu would take less money to stay.. especially after how it all went down in the finals.

I can see Manu since he's pretty much at the tail end of his career, and money at this point probably isn't the sole focus... but this is Splitter first actual big deal... I don't expect him to give a discount...

[Kindergarten Cop]

Can't sign until the 10th.

Players can agree to a contract, but cannot make it official until the 10th. If a player agrees in principle, you can guarantee he won't back out of the deal - right?

http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/media/2011/05/23/8b7dc4_boozer52311.jpg

[manufan10]

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[Texas_Ranger]

so the Pelicans will try to trade Eric Gordon.

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[timtonymanu]

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Damn, there goes my CP3 to Spurs thread I was going to start. :depressed

[BatManu20]

Lol

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[Harry Callahan]

Chris Paul has zero finals appearances and gets over $20MM per year. Tony Parker has way more rings/playoff success and gets $12MM. Of course Tony has shown to be way more of a team player than Chris the coach killer.

[fleggy2k2]

Lol

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#MyFailFuckinLife

[stephen jackson]

i wish we had a team that cared about free agency :(

[Big P]

Players can agree to a contract, but cannot make it official until the 10th. If a player agrees in principle, you can guarantee he won't back out of the deal - right?

http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/media/2011/05/23/8b7dc4_boozer52311.jpg

No...players have backed out before...carlos boozer did it...it happened to us one time when we were going to sign a guy from the clippers way back..forgot his name...it's not common for a player to back out, but they can and have done it.

[Texas_Ranger]

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/actiontrumpseverything/files/2012/05/start-blogging1.jpg

[benefactor]

And off we go...

[Chinook]

How much of the salary cap do we have available to spend?

$8 Million. They're spending $7.5 Million already, so it's not a big difference.

[manufan10]

Is there a specific reason why players can't officially sign until July 10th? Curious as to why it's that way.

[SpursDynasty21]

i wish we had a team that cared about free agency :(

I feel the same way.

[LakerHater]

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[manufan10]

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[Kindergarten Cop]

No...players have backed out before...carlos boozer did it...it happened to us one time when we were going to sign a guy from the clippers way back..forgot his name...it's not common for a player to back out, but they can and have done it.

I thought the addition of a Boozer photo would have made my sarcasm more apparent.

[Ron Swanson]

No...players have backed out before...carlos boozer did it...it happened to us one time when we were going to sign a guy from the clippers way back..forgot his name...it's not common for a player to back out, but they can and have done it.

Corey Maggette

[manufan10]

Boston is also interested in Josh Smith:

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[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

Is there a specific reason why players can't officially sign until July 10th? Curious as to why it's that way.

Because of how quickly the league turns the year around (two weeks after the Finals), they need time to figure out the cap, max salaries and exceptions for the following season. So that period is called the moratorium. Teams can make offers, but they can do anything official, because they don't know for sure what the cap will be. So no one knows which trades will be allowable (for sure) until after the moratorium is over.

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[manufan10]

Because of how quickly the league turns the year around (two weeks after the Finals), they need time to figure out the cap, max salaries and exceptions for the following season. So that period is called the moratorium. Teams can make offers, but they can do anything official, because they don't know for sure what the cap will be. So no one knows which trades will be allowable (for sure) until after the moratorium is over.

That makes sense. Thanks for the info.

[Chinook]

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This will probably set the market for Evans. If a desperate team loaded with cap space comes out with a $7-9 Million average, he probably won't get much more than that. If they go near max, then it's pretty much over.

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[LakerHater]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Well, Spurs are content to bring the same team back.. Ugh, no changes until Tim hangs it up and we go into Purgatory for a season

[SpursDynasty21]

What are some good sources to keep up with the latest news and rumors?

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

What are some good sources to keep up with the latest news and rumors?

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

and of course:

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

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[stephen jackson]

its prolly really fun to be a nba player around this time

[BatManu20]

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[SpursDynasty21]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

and of course:

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Thanks!

[ace3g]

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[loveforthegame]

:lmao

Got damn that's funny. Please stay away from the Warriors though. Do not want.

[Chinook]

Golden State's not in the running unless they can do a Bogut and Barnes (and maybe Green) trade and pretty much take nothing back in return.

[LakerHater]

the Charlotte Bobcats are pursuing Jazz forward Al Jefferson

[MeloHype]

#stayd12

[ace3g]

Brad Turner @BA_Turner
(http://twitter.com/BA_Turner)The Clippers have called Matt Barnes' agent about him returning to the team, sources. Both sides working on a deal.

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(http://twitter.com/KBergCBS)As free agency opens, the Charlotte Bobcats are pursuing Jazz forward Al Jefferson, a league source tells @CBSSports (http://twitter.com/CBSSports).

[tim_duncan_fan]

$8 Million. They're spending $7.5 Million already, so it's not a big difference.

I mean in total, how much do we have available to re-sign any of the FAs we want back and sign another guy? How much do we have to play with?

[SpursDynasty21]

No Spurs rumors, yet.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(http://twitter.com/sam_amick)Predictably, and with good reason, the Warriors reached out to key free agents Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry at the outset of free agency.

[TheGoldStandard]

I mean in total, how much do we have available to re-sign any of the FAs we want back and sign another guy? How much do we have to play with?

If they sign splitter to an 8 year deal and sign manu for 5 which will probably be the amount they'll offer, about 3 or 4 million?

[LakerHater]

the Warriors reached out to key free agents Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry at the outset of free agency.

[Texas_Ranger]

Chris Haynes ChrisBHaynes
The #Blazers have reached out to free agent center Zaza Puchulia, a league source informed @CSNNW. The dialogue will continue.

[stephen jackson]

hopefully everyone overlooks tiago and w eget him for 5 mill manu for 2 well still have 10 mill to play with dream scenario

[Chinook]

I mean in total, how much do we have available to re-sign any of the FAs we want back and sign another guy? How much do we have to play with?

None. They have to renounce Ginobili first. Once they do, they'll have about $8 Million plus the room exception. If they amnesty Bonner, they'll gain $3.4 Million more.

[SpursDynasty21]

If they sign splitter to an 8 year deal and sign manu for 5 which will probably be the amount they'll offer, about 3 or 4 million?

I thought the Spurs had much more cap space than that. I hope Splitter signs elsewhere. Bringing Bonner back is taking up some space, too.

[TheGoldStandard]

hopefully everyone overlooks tiago and w eget him for 5 mill manu for 2 well still have 10 mill to play with dream scenario

Someone will dick with us and offer a boatload for Tiago, probably around 8 or 9 which everyone thinks is fair and its not. And The Spurs will overpay manu because nothing else is happening during FA.

[TheGoldStandard]

None. They have to renounce Ginobili first. Once they do, they'll have about $8 Million plus the room exception. If they amnesty Bonner, they'll gain $3.4 Million more.

they won't renounce him.. his deal will be about 5 or 6 a year.

[ElNono]

How long until we start hearing complaints that there's no more FA available to sign, and the Spurs wasted another offseason?

[stephen jackson]

Someone will dick with us and offer a boatload for Tiago, probably around 8 or 9 which everyone thinks is fair and its not. And The Spurs will overpay manu because nothing else is happening during FA.
lmao i have a feeling we will overpay manu too. sad

[LakerHater]

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[ducks]

Point guard Darren Collison maybe off the bench? he could be a bargain

[TheGoldStandard]

How long until we start hearing complaints that there's no more FA available to sign, and the Spurs wasted another offseason?

Give it 2 days.. Then the Spurs will welcome another 3 point specialist into the fold with the MLE

[Chinook]

they won't renounce him.. his deal will be about 5 or 6 a year.

They should still renounce him. That doesn't prevent them from re-signing him at all, but it opens up the rest of the cap space earlier. If Manu wants to pull a Duncan and take what's left over after the Spurs spend their money, then it would make sense to renounce him and re-sign him at the end.

[Chinook]

How long until we start hearing complaints that there's no more FA available to sign, and the Spurs wasted another offseason?

The moment Evans agrees to a deal.

[TheGoldStandard]

lmao i have a feeling we will overpay manu too. sad

Yup, he'll get 6M a year for 2 years which everyone will say is a bargain.. until he's 8pts a game, 3 assists and 4 turnover avg.

[Ron Swanson]

How long until we start hearing complaints that there's no more FA available to sign, and the Spurs wasted another offseason?

Yesterday

[TheGoldStandard]

They should still renounce him. That doesn't prevent them from re-signing him at all, but it opens up the rest of the cap space earlier. If Manu wants to pull a Duncan and take what's left over after the Spurs spend their money, then it would make sense to renounce him and re-sign him at the end.

I don't think they'll go over the cap so whatever the spend on Tiago they'll just split between Manu and Neal, and the MLE.

[benefactor]

How long until we start hearing complaints that there's no more FA available to sign, and the Spurs wasted another offseason?
:cry they all wanted to come here but our FO sucks :cry

[Chinook]

I don't think they'll go over the cap so whatever the spend on Tiago they'll just split between Manu and Neal, and the MLE.

So you mean you think they WILL go over the cap. They only have the MLE if they stay over the cap.

[palangi]

Chris Haynes Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)BHaynes
The #Blazers have reached out to free agent center Zaza Puchulia, a league source informed @CSNNW. The dialogue will continue.
kind of frustrating to see the blazers exploring all avenues to help out aldridge. while we sit pat and do nothing for timmy? why not even talk to others bigs?

[TheGoldStandard]

So you mean you think they WILL go over the cap. They only have the MLE if they stay over the cap.

Sorry, scratch that.. I doubt they do that.. I think they'll go with the concensus that they were 1 rebound away and 1 ft away from winning the finals and will expect Tim Duncan to have another mind boggling experience.

[ace3g]

Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan
(http://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan)Lakers interested in Carlos Delfino, small forward w/ range. They had, um, not a lot of range last season. Will he sign for mini mid-level?

[Splits]

In a move that gives the Rockets the necessary salary cap space to offer the free agent big man a maximum salary contract in their meeting that is expected to take place Sunday night, they agreed to send forward Thomas Robinson to the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for two second-round draft picks and the rights to Kostas Papanikolau and Marko Todorovic, two people with knowledge of the deal confirmed to USA TODAY Sports. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the deal had not yet been announced.

[Chinook]

Sorry, scratch that.. I doubt they do that.. I think they'll go with the concensus that they were 1 rebound away and 1 ft away from winning the finals and will expect Tim Duncan to have another mind boggling experience.

What you're saying jives with staying over the cap. If the Spurs want to bring back the same team, they'll stay over the cap and only improve with the MLE. So they'll just re-sign everybody and ignore free agents except for a small one of two that could help like Aminu or Casspi. Then, they'll focus on development and chemistry to get them over the hump.

If they go under the cap, they'd be doing it to make a major acquisition. It might seem counter-intuitive, but that's the way it is.

[ducks]

spurs better hope houston lands dw
they might make splitter a stupid offer

[ElNono]

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[BatManu20]

Damn looks like the Nets are getting Korver too.

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[Chinook]

Really? With what money? He'd be a great piece for their bench, though.

[LakerHater]

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[ducks]

so now it begines the nets will be competiion to heat for people riding stars for a chance at title

[ace3g]

Jason McLaed @InsiderJayNBA
(http://twitter.com/InsiderJayNBA)Source tells me the Hawks are hoping Howard goes to Houston if its not them, plan on offering to s&t Smith for Asik or get Asik outright.

[TheGoldStandard]

What you're saying jives with staying over the cap. If the Spurs want to bring back the same team, they'll stay over the cap and only improve with the MLE. So they'll just re-sign everybody and ignore free agents except for a small one of two that could help like Aminu or Casspi. Then, they'll focus on development and chemistry to get them over the hump.

If they go under the cap, they'd be doing it to make a major acquisition. It might seem counter-intuitive, but that's the way it is.

Well, as ass backwards as that may seem then they'll be over the cap to do the same thing they did last year expect other teams will have improved, have one more year to gel as well while our best players are going to get older. Kind of stings to say all that and hope that Pop actually throws Kawhi a bone and makes him an intricate part of the team but I'm not so sure.. I think it'll be more opportunities from 3. I don't see Pop taking the ball out of Parkers hands and Kawhi won't run pick and roll with him.

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[BatManu20]

Really? With what money? He'd be a great piece for their bench, though.

Apparently he's taking a significant pay cut to play there.

[TheGoldStandard]

Really? With what money? He'd be a great piece for their bench, though.

The mad Russian doesn't care about money..

[ElNono]

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[BatManu20]

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Wow that'd be a great move by both Houston and ATL tbh. Damn you Danny Ferry!

[Chinook]

Too bad the Rockets got rid of the pieces they needed to match salaries. Unless they can move Lin, that is.

[ace3g]

Brad Turner @BA_Turner
(http://twitter.com/BA_Turner)O.J. Mayo could be an option at shooting guard for the Clippers.

Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
(http://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina)Bradbury also said Lakers expressed interest to him in his client Chase Budinger

[SpursDynasty21]

C'mon, Spurs.

[Chinook]

Apparently he's taking a significant pay cut to play there.

As the mMLE. That's sort of insulting, seeing as the Nets aren't even a contender.

[LakerHater]

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[tesseractive]

Wow that'd be a great move by both Houston and ATL tbh.
Absolutely. Nice work, if they pull it off.

[Chinook]

Reuniting Budinger and Hill again.

[stephen jackson]

lol we really are tied to no one.....

[celldweller]

Celldweller @Cell_Dweller
Spurs aint doing shit this off season, GO TO BED ALREADY and see you in November!

[stephen jackson]

at this rate id be hppy with jj redick

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

Robinson going to Portland and Asik going to Atlanta would really help narrow down the Splitter market.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Sign-and-trade scenarios are emerging for Milwaukee and J.J. Redick, but no talks on a return to the Bucks, league sources tell Y!

[SpursDynasty21]

The Spurs are like my favorite baseball team, the Cardinals. Neither team ever does anything in the offseason.

[ducks]

J.J. Redick for blair LOL

[stephen jackson]

bonner for redick pleaseeeeee

hope the good will between bucks and spurs continues [RJ]

[celldweller]

Pop is probably drunk in has basement with Bonner, while RC is at home waiting for further instruction from Pop. Meanwhile Peter Holt is to scared to call either one of them with Free Agency suggestions.

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[TheGoldStandard]

bonner for redick pleaseeeeee

hope the good will between bucks and spurs continues [RJ]

Not happening.. They'll probably just bring back Keith Bogans

[ace3g]

Sean Deveney @SeanDeveney
(http://twitter.com/SeanDeveney)Earl Clark heard from the @Lakers (http://twitter.com/Lakers) to open free agency. But he will visit the @cavs (http://twitter.com/cavs) on Tuesday, I am told.

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

How many forwards can Cleveland get? Are they trying to be the new Houston (pre-Harden)?

[TheGoldStandard]

How many forwards can Cleveland get? Are they trying to be the new Houston (pre-Harden)?

Trade fodder, they can then build around Howard

[BatManu20]

How many forwards can Cleveland get? Are they trying to be the new Houston (pre-Harden)?

They're letting Marreese Speights walk.

[palangi]

They're letting Marreese Speights walk.
sign him up. i'd rather go him than splitter.

[Chinook]

Trade fodder, they can then build around Howard

What?


They're letting Marreese Speights walk.

That'd still make three power-forwards.

[Chinook]

sign him up. i'd rather go him than splitter.

Speights will get the MLE. No need to get rid of Splitter when they can afford both.

[TheGoldStandard]

What?

If they're stock piling Forwards they can just pick who works best with Dwight and then trade away the other players for complimentary pieces or draft picks.

That'd still make three power-forwards.

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[BatManu20]

Iggy trolling the masses.

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[marinoman]

brooklyn looks damn good on paper, lets see how it plays out

[Chinook]

I'm talking about Cleveland getting forwards, not Houston.

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[CGD]

Per the Tyrke Evans thread in the Think Tank, 17 teams rumored to be interested in the man, jeesh. Surely that'll put him out of the Spurs' price range...

In 0 for 2. Evans and Robinson. Oh well.

[TheGoldStandard]

Everyone is falling off the list that was either rumored to be on Spurs list or people liked on this site. Once Aminu falls then we know for sure it's just Super Status Quo

[BatManu20]

Per the Tyrke Evans thread in the Think Tank, 17 teams rumored to be interested in the man, jeesh. Surely that'll put him out of the Spurs' price range...

In 0 for 2. Evans and Robinson. Oh well.

Yea he's a hot commodity, and rightfully so. No way Spurs get him..

[Spursfanfromafar]

brooklyn looks damn good on paper, if this was 2008

FIFY

[TheGoldStandard]

Mikhail Prokhorov going all in with this group w/ Kidd

[marinoman]

FIFY

i thought pierce had a big almost manu type dropoff last year, but i thought garnett was solid, not great but.....

[Robz4000]

Spurs are gonna be part of a trade if anything. Ya'll are waiting for water to turn into wine tbqh.

Also :lmao at Brooklyn. That team is second round fodder. They're next season's Lakers.

[Spursfanfromafar]

i thought pierce had a big almost manu type dropoff last year, but i thought garnett was solid, not great but.....

Combine that with dropoffs for Williams and Johnson plus Pierce, Garnett and Terry all being over 35.. you know what it means.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Golden State exploring trade possibilities on David Lee and $44M left on his contract. tinyurl.com/kxd7yfo (http://t.co/ZkRroTm0bk)

[BatManu20]

Whaaaat. Forgot he was making that much. No one's taking on that contract.

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[chrhawk]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Golden State exploring trade possibilities on David Lee and $44M left on his contract. tinyurl.com/kxd7yfo (http://t.co/ZkRroTm0bk)

Good luck tbh

[stephen jackson]

lees to injury prone and overpaid

[BatManu20]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Golden State exploring trade possibilities on David Lee and $44M left on his contract. tinyurl.com/kxd7yfo (http://t.co/ZkRroTm0bk)




Ahh my bad Ace. Didn't see you posted it already.

[CGD]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Golden State exploring trade possibilities on David Lee and $44M left on his contract. tinyurl.com/kxd7yfo (http://t.co/ZkRroTm0bk)




Theyre gonna have to throw in a young asset or two if they want to move that massive deal.

[TheGoldStandard]

Theyre gonna have to throw in a young asset or two if they want to move that massive deal.

Someone will be stupid and offer something for that.

[loveforthegame]

GS good luck with that. :lol

[Chinook]

Lee's deal isn't that bad if he's healthy. A Bogut/Barnes package would probably be more moveable, but I'd expect someone (probably Dallas or Boston) to take the Warriors up on that deal if Golden State's asking price isn't too high.

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[TheyCallMePro]

So no bites on Tiago yet?

I guess that's a good thing because we can re-sign him for cheap, but I still don't want him back.

[BatManu20]

So no bites on Tiago yet?

I guess that's a good thing because we can re-sign him for cheap, but I still don't want him back.

FA started an hour ago... give it some time.

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[SpursRock20]

I'm so hungry for news, I'd be happy to hear that the Spurs are in talks with Jackie Moon.

[objective]

would Korver take the taxpayer mid-level? Is that like 3 million a year? That's less than Bonner for crying out loud!

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Lol ya don't say??

[stephen jackson]

I'm so hungry for news, I'd be happy to hear that the Spurs are in talks with Jackie Moon.

cant even get rumors :(

[BatManu20]

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[TheGoldStandard]

So no bites on Tiago yet?

I guess that's a good thing because we can re-sign him for cheap, but I still don't want him back.

Spurs still pay him high 8M or 9M

[Chinook]

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Well, I mean, if Golden State thinks that's a reasonable deal, then we can count them out on actually making the room to sign anyone significant.

[tesseractive]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Y! Sources: Golden State exploring trade possibilities on David Lee and $44M left on his contract. tinyurl.com/kxd7yfo (http://t.co/ZkRroTm0bk)



Knicks will probably take him back, tbh.

[playblair]

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[BatManu20]

So if Tiago doesn't get a single offerin FA from another team, (which I'm sure he will), but hypothetically, when and what's the least we could offer him? Would it just be normal negotiating even twit the QO? chinook you probably know this.

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[SpursRock20]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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Kobe

[BatManu20]

Kobe

That'd be my guess too.

[TheGoldStandard]

That'd be my guess too.
When you see Keith Bogans post something similar than it'll be Pop

[stephen jackson]

@ tonyparker lol

[Chinook]

So if Tiago doesn't get a single offerin FA from another team, (which I'm sure he will), but hypothetically, when and what's the least we could offer him? Would it just be normal negotiating even twit the QO? chinook you probably know this.

He'd get at least his QO, which is about $5 Million. That'd probably be the start of his contract, so he would get something like a $11M/2, $16.5M/3 or a $22M/4 deal. The two sides could agree to start below the QO, but they've guaranteed Tiago that much already, so he has little incentive to go below that.

[manufan10]

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:lol That's actually someone's Twitter account.

[BatManu20]

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Actually I think it's Mark Cuban. Iggy tweeted "Correctomondo!" right after someone guessed Cuban.

[LakerHater]

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[BatManu20]

:lol That's actually someone's Twitter account.

:lol some Asian dude

[BatManu20]

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Damn. Make it happen R.C.

[elemento]

When you see Keith Bogans post something similar than it'll be Pop

:lol

Could be Findog though

[loveforthegame]

Well that's interesting.

[stephen jackson]

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thank the lord

[manufan10]

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[BatManu20]

I think Monta ends up getting a couple ridiculous offers. Wouldn't be surprised if Dallas threw $11-12 million at him to lock him up.

[BatManu20]

How the hell do the Knicks have money to offer Monta?

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[ElNono]

Kobe

With what money? :lol

[BatManu20]

He'd get at least his QO, which is about $5 Million. That'd probably be the start of his contract, so he would get something like a $11M/2, $16.5M/3 or a $22M/4 deal. The two sides could agree to start below the QO, but they've guaranteed Tiago that much already, so he has little incentive to go below that.

Interesting. I really hope no one offers him anything, although it's a long shot.

[manufan10]

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[td4mvp2k]

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lol mccarney stfu!

[BatManu20]

I could definitely see Monta on the Bulls. I think that'd be a good fit.

[BatManu20]

Wow I don't see him turning down that offer, or the Kings matching. He might be a pelican.


"Long story short, if the expected salary cap comes to fruition, the Pelicans could offer Evans a contract starting at $11,378,284. More than likely, that would prevent the Kings from matching and make Evans a Pelican. Even more likely, New Orleans wouldn’t offer quite that much, but that’s the amount available.
If the Pelicans sign Evans, would they use a three-guard backcourt, making Evans their nominal small forward, or would they explore a trade of Gordon? It’s always nice to add talent, but it’s not always simple to do or handle once its done."

[playblair]

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Ellis is also at the point in his career where he wants to play deep into the playoffs. Other teams have shown interest — such as the Los Angeles Lakers, Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks — but those teams are handcuffed by salary cap restrictions and would need to make other moves in order to accommodate Ellis, who is willing to find common ground between salary and playing for a contender.

[marinoman]

monta ellis is like gary neal on crack, thats not really a good thing

[Bruno]

I don't see Spurs adding a guard that needs so much the ball as Monta Ellis if Ginobili is re-signed. If Spurs are trully interested in him, it could mean Manu won't be back.

[TE]

Neals replacement

[BatManu20]

Wow I don't see him turning down that offer, or the Kings matching. Tyreke might be a pelican.


"Long story short, if the expected salary cap comes to fruition, the Pelicans could offer Evans a contract starting at $11,378,284. More than likely, that would prevent the Kings from matching and make Evans a Pelican. Even more likely, New Orleans wouldn’t offer quite that much, but that’s the amount available.
If the Pelicans sign Evans, would they use a three-guard backcourt, making Evans their nominal small forward, or would they explore a trade of Gordon? It’s always nice to add talent, but it’s not always simple to do or handle once its done."

[BatManu20]

No way Monta Ellis would be okay with coming off the bench, which he would with the Spurs.

[stephen jackson]

i rememeber thats the same shit maggete said he wanted to play for a winner but instead took the bigger contract

[stephen jackson]

No way Monta Ellis would be okay with coming off the bench, which he would with the Spurs.


nah that be danny green... monta better start if he comes

[LakerHater]

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[Floyd Pacquiao]

rofl monta ellis? probably bullshit

wont be suprised if true though..we know how much pop loves undersized 2 guards

[timtonymanu]

Ehh... this looks like another scenario where the Spurs won't get him. I'm not too excited about Monta Ellis. I would rather the Spurs target a backup SF.

[stephen jackson]

I don't see Spurs adding a guard that needs so much the ball as Monta Ellis if Ginobili is re-signed. If Spurs are trully interested in him, it could mean Manu won't be back.

we have zero creators besides tony....
we need a primary playmaker

[RD2191]

monta ellis is like gary neal on crack, thats not really a good thing

:lmao

[ElNono]

But I thought we could get Evans for $6m/season... :depressed

[LakerHater]

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[stephen jackson]

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this guy is stupid....

[ElNono]

I like the direction this is going, even if Monta doesn't happen... they're looking for a guy that can create his own shot... we need that.

[manufan10]

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[td4mvp2k]

But I thought we could get Evans for $6m/season... :depressed

lol :frying:

[BatManu20]

The good thing about Monta Ellis is that he's a shot creator, which the Spurs badly need. The bad thing about Monta Ellis is that he's Monta Ellis.

[stephen jackson]

I like the direction this is going, even if Monta doesn't happen... they're looking for a guy that can create his own shot... we need that.

absolutely.

[LakerHater]

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[timtonymanu]

I like the direction this is going, even if Monta doesn't happen... they're looking for a guy that can create his own shot... we need that.

Doesn't it worry you a bit that this may mean Manu won't return?

Monta just seems a little too good to be in the Neal role.

[td4mvp2k]

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lol mccarney stfu!

[SpursRock20]

Imagine if Neal and Ellis were on the court together....http://t.qkme.me/3rwujo.jpg

[manufan10]

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[stephen jackson]

Doesn't it worry you a bit that this may mean Manu won't return?

Monta just seems a little too good to be in the Neal role.

you want manu back?
and if he wants to come back vet min...

[Holden_Caulfield]

Neals replacement

lol i'd rather keep neal at a cheaper price

[chrhawk]

The Spurs do need another guard who is a threat to beat his man off the dribble, while Monta is capable.... I have a hard time seeing him as the answer here. Gotta think the Spurs are just doing their due diligence and they will take a look at some other guards too.

[crc21209]

I like the direction this is going, even if Monta doesn't happen... they're looking for a guy that can create his own shot... we need that.

This. They badly need another guy who can create his own shot off the dribble and attack the paint other than Tony.

[ElNono]

Doesn't it worry you a bit that this may mean Manu won't return?

Monta just seems a little too good to be in the Neal role.

I don't think this affects Manu coming back at all... it helps Manu because teams wouldn't be able to focus on him.

[stephen jackson]

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yea he knows more than the spurs....

[LakerHater]

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[timtonymanu]

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I don't know how likely that is, but JR would be a much better fit here than Monta that's for sure.

[stephen jackson]

monta plays some really good defense too. over 2 steals a game dude likes getting his hands on balls

[BatManu20]

:lol just the thought of J.R. Smith in a Spurs uniform makes me laugh. He'd be everything the Spurs have ever been against.

[manufan10]

monta plays some really good defense too. over 2 steals a game dude likes getting his hands on balls

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[Kindergarten Cop]

Lol just the thought of J.R. Smith in a Spurs uniform makes me laugh. He'd be everything the Spurs have ever been against.

Yet that hasn't stopped the Spurs from pursuing him in the past.

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[stephen jackson]

:lol just the thought of J.R. Smith in a Spurs uniform makes me laugh. He'd be everything the Spurs have ever been against.

spurs have tried to get jr since his sophmore year their in love with him. id take monta over him...

[BatManu20]

I know the Spurs have been interested in JR in the past, but it still makes me laugh. I don't see it happening, but who knows.

[manufan10]

I'd take Friend Killer over Monta. Friend Killer is already used to coming off of the bench.

[BatManu20]

I'm surprised the Spurs aren't showing interest in OJ Mayo. If they're showing interest in Monta, they should be showing interest in all SG's..

[tesseractive]

Stackhouse and Jason Terry were both awful gunners until they went to a strong team with a system, and then they settled in as solid players who did what they needed to. This certainly wouldn't be an unprecedented gamble.

[td4mvp2k]

I'm surprised the Spurs aren't showing interest in OJ Mayo. If they're showing interest in Monta, they be showing interest in all SG's..
cia pop n rc

[crc21209]

Yeah but theres a major difference between opting out of $11 million from a good team and opting out of $11 million from a bad team. Lets face it, Milwaukee is one place where good players go to rot. Milwaukee just flat out sucks. I don't blame him for getting out of there...

[BatManu20]

Am I seeing this right? Monta Ellis shot 29% from 3 last season on 94-328 shooting..? That is terrible. And he's a 31% career 3-point shooter. Nobody deserves $11 million per with those %'s..


I've watched him play numerous times, esp back in his Golden St days, and he's a legit scorer/shot creator, but I had no idea he was such a poor 3-point shooter.

[MeloHype]

You guys are underrating Monta Ellis, he can have a good FG% when he has good teammates, good playmaker, and hustle player.

[tesseractive]

Am I seeing this right? Monta Ellis shot 29% from 3 last season on 94-328 shooting..? That is terrible. And he's a 31% career 3-point shooter. Nobody deserves $11 million per..
He's taking boatloads of lousy, contested shots. If he were to work out here, he would be getting better looks thanks to our offense, and also passing the ball instead of taking the bad ones.

[manufan10]

Am I seeing this right? Monta Ellis shot 29% from 3 last season on 94-328 shooting..? That is terrible. And he's a 31% career 3-point shooter. Nobody deserves $11 million per..

It's true.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ellismo01.html

Danny Green made 55 3's in the playoffs. :lol

[stephen jackson]

he knows hes gunna take a pay cut and if he comes here it wont be that much maybe 7 mill a year and he gets to win
win win situation for both teams and we still keep tiago sign manu for 2 mill

[BatManu20]

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