2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[mystargtr34]

Poor Dirk :lol.. he needs to ask for a trade.

[Mel_13]

Aminu just got a 1 year 3.4 mil deal from the Pelicans
Spurs could have easily offered him more

They can't and he's not worth more anyway.

[spursince#99]

We're gonna look so fucking pathetic next year. :depressed

[TheGoldStandard]

Dwight welching on Houston to come back to the Lakers would be priceless tbh.

:lol If he thought last season was bad, he's in for a rude awakening with the next 4yrs as Kobe's personal shoeshine boy.

Go home and get your shine box Dwight.

[TheGreatYacht]

353326128410279936Wow... we should have given Manu's $14M to this guy.

[objective]

Aminu just got a 1 year 3.4 mil deal from the Pelicans
Spurs could have easily offered him more

Not if they used the MLE with Belinelli.

The Spurs are too cheap to amnesty Bonner just to pay Aminu.

[timvp]

Anyone who didn't think D-Ho would flip flop back and forth a dozen times before eventually picking a destination he immediately regrets hasn't been following closely, tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Anyone who didn't think D-Ho would flip flop back and forth a dozen times before eventually picking a destination he immediately regrets hasn't been following closely, tbh.

It became about the money when someone told him, "so what, LA or Houston you have no chance to win a title in the next few seasons"

[look_at_g_shred]

We're gonna look so fucking pathetic next year. :depressed
Fuck outta here dude!

[Mel_13]

Not if they used the MLE with Belinelli.

The Spurs are too cheap to amnesty Bonner just to pay Aminu.

Using the amnesty on Bonner to overpay Aminu would be stupid. If they're going to use the amnesty on Bonner, I trust that they'll have a more worthwhile candidate for the cap space created.

[marinoman]

any news on jarret jack, whats goin on there? Warriors dont have the money to resign him right?

[mystargtr34]

Im still not sure which i prefer as a Spur fan.. it would be hilarious to see the Lakers left with nothing, but then if he stays theres so much comedy gold in store for next season.

Its a win-win imo :lol

[spursince#99]

Fuck outta here dude!

Suck my dick, Bitch. :wakeup

[spursince#99]

any news on jarret jack, whats goin on there? Warriors dont have the money to resign him right?

[Mel_13]

Im still not sure which i prefer as a Spur fan.. it would be hilarious to see the Lakers left with nothing, but then if he stays theres so much comedy gold in store for next season.

Its a win-win imo :lol

True. We only get to laugh for a short time if he bolts, but if he stays we're in for several dysfunctional years in lala land.

[DesignatedT]

Rather he stay in LA. Lakers are no threat with Howard.

[manufan10]

any news on jarret jack, whats goin on there? Warriors dont have the money to resign him right?

Haven't heard about interest, but no the Warriors rescinded their cap hold and won't resign him.

[TheGoldStandard]

I hope he stays now just for the comedy gold and Houstons mediocrity.

[DesignatedT]

Maybe Detroit or Milwaukee, For Jack? For teams with cap room. Unless he takes MLE.

[TheGoldStandard]

Maybe Detroit or Milwaukee, For Jack? For teams with cap room. Unless he takes MLE.

Dallas

[manufan10]

353336355847286784

:lol

[Mel_13]

Dallas

They just spent 29M on a PG.

[Mel_13]

Dallas

They just spent 29M on a PG.

[TheGoldStandard]

They just spent 29M on a PG.

I didn't say it was smart..

[Mel_13]

I didn't say it was smart..

Fair enough.

[playblair]

:greedy

[DesignatedT]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 8s
In other NBA news, I'm hearing that Paul Millsap is in serious talks with the Atlanta Hawks. Trying to confirm and get terms.

[Mugen]

I'd rather roll with Matty as the backup PG than pay Jack what he's going to ask for tbh.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)In other NBA news, I'm hearing that Paul Millsap is in serious talks with the Atlanta Hawks. Trying to confirm and get terms.

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd rather roll with Matty as the backup PG than pay Jack what he's going to ask for tbh.

Don't give Pop ideas.

[Mugen]

Milsap will get at least 9/10mil per year from the Hawks. He was never a realistic target for the Spurs.

[DesignatedT]

Weird fit in Atlanta. Would think they would look for a 5 so Horford can slide over to his natural position.

[TheGoldStandard]

Weird fit in Atlanta. Would think they would look for a 5 so Horford can slide over to his natural position.

Bud has something up his sleeve

[freetiago]

Not if they used the MLE with Belinelli.

The Spurs are too cheap to amnesty Bonner just to pay Aminu.

like i said
they should have easily been able to offer him enough
does bonner buyout affect capspace
and Aminu would look better raising his stock on a 1 year deal in SA vs Pelicans clusterfuck
theyre a young injury prone team trying to integrate a lot of huge pieces

[manufan10]

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[ace3g]

Los Angeles Lakers @Lakers
(http://twitter.com/Lakers)Statement from GM Mitch Kupchak: on.nba.com/14ZsLgV (http://t.co/FaGcAfbsMK) "We have been informed of Dwight's decision to not return to the Lakers."

[DesignatedT]

Well that's that. Good. Now everyone move on.

[manufan10]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Waiting for the "Well, maybe.. unless"

[Mel_13]

So, Dwight actually was just doing the decent thing and informing the Lakers face to face.

[TheGoldStandard]

So, Dwight actually was just doing the decent thing and informing the Lakers face to face.

Skype

[timvp]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

[Mel_13]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

:lol

[manufan10]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

:lol

[manufan10]

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000093889547/7320bfb38e015927fb6ca8716e26bc89.jpeg

[ace3g]

Transactions should pick up again.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dallas getting ready to buy more crap.

[Russ]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

Can't win on the cheap.

OKC's window is over.

As is Memphis' for the same reason.

Hick towns gotta pay they playas. If not, they'll be lucky just to keep the team in town.

[manufan10]

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[chrhawk]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

:lmao To think this whole thing started because the Thunder paid Kendrick Perkins.

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to terms on a 2-year deal with Paul Millsap sources tell ESPN.

[elemento]

Alex Kennedy ✔ AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)
The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to a contract with Paul Millsap, source confirms.

[DesignatedT]

2 / 20?

[timtonymanu]

Well now it's Kirilenko or settling for much less.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lmao To think this whole thing started because the Thunder paid Kendrick Perkins.

They traded away Green & harden, lol.

[Spursfanfromafar]

With Milwaukee opting to sign Mayo (and loaded with other SFs/Stretch Forwards - Mbah a Moute, Ilyasova, Daniels), Orlando, Philadelphia, Sacramento (and even Detroit) in rebuilding mode; Dallas already having Marion & Carter; Cleveland drafting Bennett already..

I think Atlanta is the only contender with the Spurs for Kirilenko if we consider that only cap space having teams are going to contend for him. IMO.

Lets scratch Atlanta from the list too.. They have signed Millsap on a 2 year deal.

[objective]

The whole thing started when OKC ownership and Presti were too stupid to appreciate what they had and pay the tax like the Spurs had been doing. Harden had agreed to a less than 5-year max, and agreed to keep his role off the bench. But OKC was too damn cheap. And OKC doesn't even have to pay off the St Louis Spirits every year like the Spurs and the other ABA teams.

If the Thunder couldn't afford to pay the tax for a winner, maybe their scumbag owners shouldn't have moved to as small a market as possible to limit their financial resources.

[manufan10]

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[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Demarre Carroll has reached agreement on a deal with Atlanta, his agent, Mark Bartelstein, says.

[Ron Swanson]

2 / 20?


2/19 says David Aldridge

[marinoman]

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000093889547/7320bfb38e015927fb6ca8716e26bc89.jpeg

took pic from this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOD1jvXCAAIa1LE.jpg:large

[hommeaetage]

Sam Presti is a hell of a GM.

He built the Thunder. Then tore 'em down and built the Rockets.

Props.

:lmao Don't forget he traded Green for Perkins

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)DeMarre Carroll gets a two year, $5 million deal with the Hawks, league source tells Y!

[Mel_13]

The whole thing started when OKC ownership and Presti were too stupid to appreciate what they had and pay the tax like the Spurs had been doing. Harden had agreed to a less than 5-year max, and agreed to keep his role off the bench. But OKC was too damn cheap. And OKC doesn't even have to pay off the St Louis Spirits every year like the Spurs and the other ABA teams.

If the Thunder couldn't afford to pay the tax for a winner, maybe their scumbag owners shouldn't have moved to as small a market as possible to limit their financial resources.

And they traded him, for pennies on the dollar, a year before they would have been subject to the tax. They could have made one more run in 2012-13 and then traded him this summer.

Presti's a decent GM, but he's wildly overrated, especially here.

[DesignatedT]

Lets scratch Atlanta from the list too.. They have signed Millsap on a 2 year deal.

Cleveland is probably the one to watch out of the ones you listed. He could help and they could offer a nice contract but do they really want to give him a multi-year deal?

[Mel_13]

The whole thing started when OKC ownership and Presti were too stupid to appreciate what they had and pay the tax like the Spurs had been doing. Harden had agreed to a less than 5-year max, and agreed to keep his role off the bench. But OKC was too damn cheap. And OKC doesn't even have to pay off the St Louis Spirits every year like the Spurs and the other ABA teams.

If the Thunder couldn't afford to pay the tax for a winner, maybe their scumbag owners shouldn't have moved to as small a market as possible to limit their financial resources.

And they traded him, for pennies on the dollar, a year before they would have been subject to the tax. They could have made one more run in 2012-13 and then traded him this summer.

Presti's a decent GM, but he's wildly overrated, especially here.

[objective]

DeMarre Carroll is another SF for the Hawks, so even less reason for them to sign AK.

[ducks]

millsap will be a free agent when spurs have cap room

[DPG21920]

So, Dwight actually was just doing the decent thing and informing the Lakers face to face.

Yup, many people owe him an apology. He didn't waiver at all. Broussard is just a moron with 0 credibility.

Also, why would ATL sign Millsap, when they could trade for ASIK? 2YR/19M is a solid contract too, that was Spurs range..

[Spursfanfromafar]

And they traded him, for pennies on the dollar, a year before they would have been subject to the tax. They could have made one more run in 2012-13 and then traded him this summer.

Presti's a decent GM, but he's wildly overrated, especially here.

I guess even lesser than pennies. They got a year of Kevin Martin, who bolted this year; a new prospect in Jeremy Lamb, who barely played; and Toronto's first rounder, a number 12 pick which they used on a Kiwi named Steve Adams.

In sum, they sold James Harden for Steve Adams and Jeremy Lamb.

Wow, Presti. ..

and Thanks so much, Presti, signed Spurs' & Rockets' fans.

[Big P]

Asik might be going to the Pelicans for Ryan Anderson.

[ducks]

spurs should offer green

[DPG21920]

This Lakers franchise is in shambles. Buss is dead. They just fielded one of the most underachieving teams in NBA history only to be outdone by suffering one of the largest free agent slaps in the face in NBA history. Their "star" is injured and no one knows how good he can be again, they don't have really any means of improving this year and they don't seem to have the gumption to make basketball decisions for the good of the franchise at the moment (*cough*amnesty*cough*).

Wow.

[manufan10]

Edit: From Kobe's Instagram:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOdZVfpCEAAJdHh.png:large

[ducks]

I would take Asik over diaw
he would be great to be the third big

[RD2191]

:lmao Kobe

[timvp]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
DeMarre Carroll gets a two year, $5 million deal with the Hawks, league source tells Y!

Wow, the Belinelli signing looks better now in comparison.

Carroll plus renting Millsap and giving Korver big money when they should be tanking? For as good a guy as Ferry is, he is a terrible GM. He opens up cap space but then uses it to bring in pieces that at best will make the second round if the East sucks again? He F'ed up the Cleveland situation and he remains clueless.

I feel bad for Bud already.

[timtonymanu]

Atlanta is trying to gather every ex-Jazz player it seems. Mo Williams and Foye next?

[ironman2886]

I would take Asik over diaw
he would be great to be the third big
Only if the Spurs signed Kirilenko too.

[objective]

Bucks still have pleny of room to make AK at big time offer. They shouldn't, but they're a poorly run franchise, so they don't need a good reason to make a bad decision.

At this point I expect some team finds a way to offer him a deal starting at 8, or he just goes back to Europe.

[DesignatedT]

HoopsHype ‏@hoopshype 6m
Free agent rankings: Josh Smith, Nikola Pekovic and Monta Ellis at the Top 3 now. http://po.st/9UDoFG


So is it pretty much a given that Minnesota will match anything thrown at Pek?

[DPG21920]

Wow, the Belinelli signing looks better now in comparison.

Carroll plus renting Millsap and giving Korver big money when they should be tanking? For as good a guy as Ferry is, he is a terrible GM. He opens up cap space but then uses it to bring in pieces that at best will make the second round if the East sucks again? He F'ed up the Cleveland situation and he remains clueless.

I feel bad for Bud already.

While Milsap very likely > Smith for winning basketball, you are correct. It's just moves to accept being mediocre. They did have an interesting draft so maybe they just cant bring themselves to tank and will just try to sign small contracts (year-wise) until they land a FA and some draft picks develop.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Wow, the Belinelli signing looks better now in comparison.

Carroll plus renting Millsap and giving Korver big money when they should be tanking? For as good a guy as Ferry is, he is a terrible GM. He opens up cap space but then uses it to bring in pieces that at best will make the second round if the East sucks again? He F'ed up the Cleveland situation and he remains clueless.

I feel bad for Bud already.

Do you think Teague and Hortford want to Tank, both of those guys are competitors and wouldn't do such a thing. It would be like asking Duncan and Spurs to tank back when the Lakers won 3 straight titles. They didn't, they shuffled FA and draft picks until they find the right combination. That 9mil dollar deal is a great deal for Millsap. They can easily turn around and trade him next year.

Milllsaps PF, Hortford C, Carroll SF, Williams SG and Teague PG is a pretty damn good starting five and Korver as a 6th man.

I think the Hawks are trying to find a suitor like the Pistons to trade Josh Smith for a 1st round pick in next year's draft. I am not surprise they didn't go the Asik/Lin direction. Word is Rockets and Hawks talked an Asik trade but it quickly fell apart probably b/c the Hawks were asking for Parsons as well.

I would feel sorry for Bud if he was coaching a crappy team like the Celtics after making the Finals with the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

So is it pretty much a given that Minnesota will match anything thrown at Pek?

I would have to think so, yes. Unless they can land someone they like to replace him in a S&T or something.

[Chinook]

The Wolves can match any offer from Pekovic without having to worry about going into the tax. I think they'll keep him.

[DPG21920]

Look, if I am LA what they should do is amnesty Kobe and trade Pau for young player(s) and a pick(s). At a bare minimum, they should trade Pau for the same thing and at least amnesty MWP. That gets them under the cap, maybe a young player and an extra pick plus no LT payment.

I could see Minny or CLE jumping to land Pau and giving a solid piece and a pick. But Kobe's emo twitter pictures and ego won't allow it.

Make no mistake though, especially combined with last season's debacle, this was a devastating blow

[apalisoc_9]

I hope another team offers pekovic a huge deal with Minny matching so they'll forget about Ak47. Now with Millsap out of the question, who would be a good plan B option for a small ball PF?

[Big P]

Millsap was never a possiblity.

[Mel_13]

I hope another team offers pekovic a huge deal with Minny matching so they'll forget about Ak47. Now with Millsap out of the question, who would be a good plan B option for a small ball PF?

Assuming that the Kevin Martin deal goes through as a free agent signing, Minny can't sign AK47.

[Chinook]

The Lakers can't amnesty Kobe, because someone will pick him up. Trading Gasol, amnestying World Peace and stretching Steve Nash should be on the agenda now, though.

[TheGoldStandard]

Look, if I am LA what they should do is amnesty Kobe and trade Pau for young player(s) and a pick(s). At a bare minimum, they should trade Pau for the same thing and at least amnesty MWP. That gets them under the cap, maybe a young player and an extra pick plus no LT payment.

I could see Minny or CLE jumping to land Pau and giving a solid piece and a pick. But Kobe's emo twitter pictures and ego won't allow it.

Make no mistake though, especially combined with last season's debacle, this was a devastating blow

They shot themselves in the foot and they're about a mile away from there car. They're bleeding out slowly starting with this offseason. By the time they get to All Star Break they'll be passed out and not even a busted up Kobe will save them..

[apalisoc_9]

Assuming that the Kevin Martin deal goes through as a free agent signing, Minny can't sign AK47.

Good news.


The Lakers can't amnesty Kobe, because someone will pick him up. Trading Gasol, amnestying World Peace and stretching Steve Nash should be on the agenda now, though.

Can't they amnesty kobe and sigh him for less? I doubt Kobe would leave LA even if they amnesty him. Metta would be a solid back-up for kawhi if they do decide to amnesty him. I'm sure he's more than willing to accept a vet minimum.

[ohmwrecker]

To think that bonner would be our go to matchup with Duncan on the bench..NO...The reason bonner did good against him was because he was beyond pissed off with his team sucking the whole series. Losing your cool can do that just saying.

I didn't say Bonner would be the go to guy. I was just giving him credit for doing a good job on Howard. Which he did. Making stuff up is a really terrible way to get a point across.

[timvp]

Do you think Teague and Hortford want to Tank, both of those guys are competitors and wouldn't do such a thing. It would be like asking Duncan and Spurs to tank back when the Lakers won 3 straight titles.

:smchode:

[TheGoldStandard]

The Lakers can't amnesty Kobe, because someone will pick him up. Trading Gasol, amnestying World Peace and stretching Steve Nash should be on the agenda now, though.

If they amnesty him then someone would have to pick him up for his current salary right? Who has 30Million available? Plus he won't be around til February

[DesignatedT]

:lol

[Chinook]

Can't they amnesty kobe and sigh him for less? I doubt Kobe would leave LA even if they amnesty him. Metta would be a solid back-up for kawhi if they do decide to amnesty him. I'm sure he's more than willing to accept a vet minimum.

Firstly, they can't re-acquire him after they've amnestied him until his original contract expires. So no re-signing him for at least year.

Secondly, it's not Kobe's choice to leave the Lakers if amnestied. If he gets claimed, he has to report to that new team.

[Chinook]

If they amnesty him then someone would have to pick him up for his current salary right? Who has 30Million available? Plus he won't be around til February

No. They just have to pick him up for whatever they bid. Someone could end up with him for just over the minimum if the auction goes their way.

[Chinook]

:smchode:

You know, because ... well ... :smchode:

[TheGoldStandard]

No. They just have to pick him up for whatever they bid. Someone could end up with him for just over the minimum if the auction goes their way.

Damn, I was under the impression that the lakers didn't have to pay if someone picked him up for his contract deal of they'd pay his full deal off the books.. Well, I mean even then that's kinda a good deal for LA.

[apalisoc_9]

Firstly, they can't re-acquire him after they've amnestied him until his original contract expires. So no re-signing him for at least year.

Secondly, it's not Kobe's choice to leave the Lakers if amnestied. If he gets claimed, he has to report to that new team.

I seriously need to read more about these kind of stuff. :lol

[Chinook]

Damn, I was under the impression that the lakers didn't have to pay if someone picked him up for his contract deal of they'd pay his full deal off the books.. Well, I mean even then that's kinda a good deal for LA.

The Lakers have to pay whatever the difference is between the bid and his salary. So in that scenario, the Lakers have to pay about $28.5 Million to see Bryant in another uniform.

[TheGoldStandard]

The Lakers have to pay whatever the difference is between the bid and his salary. So in that scenario, the Lakers have to pay about $28.5 Million.

Is that off the books though? They're in cap Hell right now.. and at 34/35 coming off ACL I'm not sure he's gonna do anything significant. I'd dump the salary if I could.. Lottery time.

[Mel_13]

Firstly, they can't re-acquire him after they've amnestied him until his original contract expires. So no re-signing him for at least year.

Secondly, it's not Kobe's choice to leave the Lakers if amnestied. If he gets claimed, he has to report to that new team.

He might have to report, but he doesn't have to play. That achilles could take longer than Derrick Rose's knee to get ready for game action.

[Chinook]

Is that off the books though? They're in cap Hell right now.. and at 34/35 coming off ACL I'm not sure he's gonna do anything significant. I'd dump the salary if I could.. Lottery time.

It wouldn't count against the cap or against the tax, but they would still have to cut him checks.

[apalisoc_9]

So with Millsap out, who do you guys have as a back-up plan for small ball PF if this Ak47 doesn't work out?

[TheGoldStandard]

It wouldn't count against the cap or against the tax, but they would still have to cut him checks.

They'd have to really tank in order to get a good draft pick, problem is they don't have one in 2015 but should have some cap space once all the shitty contracts come off the books. I wonder who'd be the first to pick up Bryant if they amnestied him/cut him.

[Mel_13]

So with Millsap out, who do you guys have as a back-up plan for small ball PF if this Ak47 doesn't work out?

Leonard

[Chinook]

He might have to report, but he doesn't have to play. That achilles could take longer than Derrick Rose's knee to get ready for game action.

You think Kobe's missing the season with an injury when he knows he doesn't have many left? I don't know. Also, I'm just saying he's property of that new team, and that team would get the money from his jersey sales and such. It's not like the Lakers could just amnesty him then re-up him.

[Chinook]

They'd have to really tank in order to get a good draft pick, problem is they don't have one in 2015 but should have some cap space once all the shitty contracts come off the books. I wonder who'd be the first to pick up Bryant if they amnestied him/cut him.

Their 2015 pick is probably protected, so if they tank, it's probably theirs.

[TheGoldStandard]

Their 2015 pick is probably protected, so if they tank, it's probably theirs.
They owe that pick to the Suns and there 2nd round goes to Orlando. they don't have a pick till 2016

[DesignatedT]

Leonard

I understand you feel the Spurs are standing pat, therefore probably dipped into the MLE for Belinelli right? Who do you think the Spurs sign though next? They are surely going to get a backup SF still, don't you think?

[Mel_13]

You think Kobe's missing the season with an injury when he knows he doesn't have many left? I don't know. Also, I'm just saying he's property of that new team, and that team would get the money from his jersey sales and such. It's not like the Lakers could just amnesty him then re-up him.

Moot discussion anyway. No way that LA uses the amnesty on Kobe. Their fan base would openly revolt.

[Mel_13]

I understand you feel the Spurs are standing pat, therefore probably dipped into the MLE for Belinelli? Who do you think the Spurs sign though next? They are surely going to get a backup SF still right?

That would be my best guess.

[apalisoc_9]

Leonard

In that case, they would at least need to get a serviceable SF. One that could play for a few minutes.

The way it stands, Leonard would have to play 37+ minutes in the RS, and IMO, that's way too risky. 32-35 would be ideal.

[DesignatedT]

That would be my best guess.

Any ideas?

[Chinook]

They owe that pick to the Suns and there 2nd round goes to Orlando. they don't have a pick till 2016

If they Lakers have a bad enough record, then they get to keep the pick and have to give up a future one. That's how protection works, and it's pretty standard in all trades. Also, they actually do have their pick next season. They just don't have one in 2015. They've already given the Suns their first pick.

[apalisoc_9]

Any ideas?

There's a possibility the lakers amnesty MWP. He'd be a great back up for kawhi

[Mel_13]

Any ideas?

Dorell Wright
Omri Casspi
Ronnie Brewer
Francisco Garcia

[benefactor]

I'm sticking with Wojo on this, but Kennedy, Adande, and now Broussard keep pimping this:

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Again...DO NOT listen to Kennedy. I can't even count the number of times he was full of shit with things he said his "sources" told him. I finally quit following him during the draft when two of his trade rumors wound up being completely made up. Hoopsworld articles have been the ass end of jokes for years.

Woj and Sam Amick are two of the most solid...followed by Aldridge, Spears and Stein.

[rjv]

Dorell Wright
Omri Casspi
Ronnie Brewer
Francisco Garcia

i say we go with casspi and add israel to our all UN team.

[apalisoc_9]

i say we go with casspi and add israel to our all UN team.

Groce.

On that list, Garcia defended Durant Pretty well in the play-offs. He can shoot the three ball too..

[DesignatedT]

i say we go with casspi and add israel to our all UN team.

Garcia is Dominican Republic so we got a couple options there.

[DesignatedT]

Groce.


Is he replacing Brett Brown on Pop's staff?

[rjv]

Groce.

On that list, Garcia defended Durant Pretty well in the play-offs. He can shoot the three ball too..

garcia works-gives us the dominican

[LakerHater]

Did Kome Seriously Unfriend Dwight!??

[Mel_13]

Did Kome Seriously Unfriend Dwight!??

Pau, too.

[rjv]

i'm wondering who goes after bynum now

[TheGoldStandard]

i'm wondering who goes after bynum now

Dallas..

Casspi is horrible.

[timvp]

garcia works-gives us the dominican

I like the way you think, tbh.

[timvp]

garcia works-gives us the dominican

I like the way you think, tbh.

[Mel_13]

i'm wondering who goes after bynum now

Dallas and Atlanta are the most likely candidates. Philly has his Bird Rights.

[apalisoc_9]

If they Lakers have a bad enough record, then they get to keep the pick and have to give up a future one. That's how protection works, and it's pretty standard in all trades. Also, they actually do have their pick next season. They just don't have one in 2015. They've already given the Suns their first pick.

Did not realize you got bolded.

:toast

That must be some kind of record. DMC had to reach 20k plus and guys like shadowflows with over 15k are still gray.

Well deserved. One of best new posters in the spurs forum.

[BatManu20]

Did Kome Seriously Unfriend Dwight!??

Yep. He posted a pic on Instagram of he and Gasol hugging too :lol . So petty and childish. Great entertainment though.

[Chinook]

Did not realize you got bolded.

:toast

That must be some kind of record. DMC had to reach 20k plus and guys like shadowflows with over 15k are still gray.

Well deserved. One of best new posters in the spurs forum.

Thanks. It happened during the Finals.

[DPG21920]

The Lakers can't amnesty Kobe, because someone will pick him up. Trading Gasol, amnestying World Peace and stretching Steve Nash should be on the agenda now, though.

IMO, there is absolutely no chance Kobe plays for another team assuming he get's amnestied. With his injury, personality and status, no one would claim him. Even if he did get amnestied, since he is an expiring contract, he would not re-sign in the event he is claimed (which would cut down on what LA owes Kobe).

I just don't see the risk there.

[DPG21920]

Firstly, they can't re-acquire him after they've amnestied him until his original contract expires. So no re-signing him for at least year.

Secondly, it's not Kobe's choice to leave the Lakers if amnestied. If he gets claimed, he has to report to that new team.

Exactly. It's quite likely with his injury he won't even play for a year, so they could definitely re-sign him with very little risk of him playing a single game for someone else.

[DPG21920]

About the jersey sales and tickets...Kobe isn't selling jersey's if he is not on the court. As dumb as Laker fan is, they would know the drill if Kobe gets amnestied. No other team would benefit either because everyone and their momma would report on what LA's plan is.

I highly doubt that an older Kobe, coming off of a gruesome injury, will be rushed back to play in LAL this season when is team is in shamble and has very little shot at a playoff spot.

[ElNono]

Lakers are on an absolute bind. This is the perfect season for them to tank. The only guy on the books next season is Nash. The problem is if Cancer comes back early, he'll help the team win enough games to lose on a high pick.

My guess: they're going to flip that Gasol expiring and probably Nash into two pieces (which I don't know who they are, but should be relative marquee names... Monta?)

[DPG21920]

Lakers are on an absolute bind. This is the perfect season for them to tank. The only guy on the books next season is Nash. The problem is if Cancer comes back early, he'll help the team win enough games to lose on a high pick.

My guess: they're going to flip that Gasol expiring and probably Nash into two pieces (which I don't know who they are, but should be relative marquee names... Monta?)

Dude, Kobe having one of his best seasons ever, with Dwight/Pau/Metta/Earl Clark/Nash....could barely make they playoffs. They now have an injured Kobe (who likely won't be ready for the start of the season), no Dwight, no Earl Clark and no real money to add to their roster.

They are a lottery team even if they stay pretty healthy IMO.

[ElNono]

Dude, Kobe having one of his best seasons ever, with Dwight/Pau/Metta/Earl Clark/Nash....could barely make they playoffs. They now have an injured Kobe (who likely won't be ready for the start of the season), no Dwight, no Earl Clark and no real money to add to their roster.

They are a lottery team even if they stay pretty healthy IMO.

I expect Cancer to come back with a vengeance. This bitchslap wasn't just on the franchise but on him. And what's going to happen is they're going to feast on the multitude of teams that are going to be tanking for the Wiggins ticket. Cancer has too big an ego to throw games away, and Pringles knows his job is on the line.

The alternative is the medical staff shutting Cancer out for the season, in which case it's much more likely they go full tank, which is what they should really do.

Lots of team are going to be lottery teams, but if you're going to do it this season, you gotta do it to really try to be at the top of the draft.

JMO

[DPG21920]

I expect Cancer to come back with a vengeance. This bitchslap wasn't just on the franchise but on him. And what's going to happen is they're going to feast on the multitude of teams that are going to be tanking for the Wiggins ticket. Cancer has too big an ego to throw games away, and Pringles knows his job is on the line.

The alternative is the medical staff shutting Cancer out for the season, in which case it's much more likely they go full tank, which is what they should really do.

Lots of team are going to be lottery teams, but if you're going to do it this season, you gotta do it to really try to be at the top of the draft.

JMO

It's not a matter of will, but ability. Do you honestly think Kobe has it in him to have a better season than he did last year? In isolation, it was one of his best seasons ever and that was not enough to even guarantee a playoff spot on a stacked team. The team is no longer stacked and they have no real means of improving.

I guess I just don't see any way outside of some crazy trades (which is possible with LA, but I can't even think of an imaginary far fetched scenario that would help) how they can be anything more than first round fodder. At best. But this is all moot and we know LAL, after being so wounded from last year's failure combined with this slap will puff out their chests and do the opposite of what they should do for the good of their franchise. They will cater to their ego instead because that's who their leader is and they ultimately know that any damage they do can likely be undone with their built in advantages they have always had.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Now I just don't want Rockets to get Ryan Anderson as well.

They're trying to trade Asik for him. Anderson would be perfect for them now.

[raybies]

Now I just don't want Rockets to get Ryan Anderson as well.

They're trying to trade Asik for him. Anderson would be perfect for them now.

Agreed.

[ElNono]

It's not a matter of will, but ability. Do you honestly think Kobe has it in him to have a better season than he did last year? In isolation, it was one of his best seasons ever and that was not enough to even guarantee a playoff spot on a stacked team. The team is no longer stacked and they have no real means of improving.

I don't think he'll be better than last season, but I think MWP/Gasol/Nash/Cancer has enough to win enough games in this weak West where they kill whatever odds of having a top 10-15 pick in the draft. I think the start of the season will be telling. If Nash sits out with "back spasms", Cancer has a "set back" on his recovery, and Gasol has a "knee flare", then you know they'll be tanking. But otherwise, I think they know they can win enough to kill their Wiggins meal ticket for next season, and under those conditions, I see where the Lakers try to get a couple of new names just to make some buzz and get some attention.


I guess I just don't see any way outside of some crazy trades (which is possible with LA, but I can't even think of an imaginary far fetched scenario that would help) how they can be anything more than first round fodder. At best. But this is all moot and we know LAL, after being so wounded from last year's failure combined with this slap will puff out their chests and do the opposite of what they should do for the good of their franchise. They will cater to their ego instead because that's who their leader is and they ultimately know that any damage they do can likely be undone with their built in advantages they have always had.

I agree. I think here egos will prevail over what's sound for the franchise. I'm running with the Cancer schtick for the season, and it's never been more true than right now.

[DPG21920]

So if Kobe is worse and the team overall is worse (Nash, MWP & Gasol were all there last season too), how could they do better than last year? Last year was barely a playoff team and if they are any worse, they are a lottery pick team.

[ElNono]

So if Kobe is worse and the team overall is worse (Nash, MWP & Gasol were all there last season too), how could they do better than last year? Last year was barely a playoff team and if they are any worse, they are a lottery pick team.

Even if they finish like Portland last season (33-49) that only gives them about 1.1% chances in the lottery for the top pick. Might be even less. Last season was a season with only a few teams actively tanking because this was a weak draft. I expect many more teams to tank hard looking at a strong draft. They're definitely lottery bound, but this is a draft where you want to jockey for position to be as close to the top as possible.

EDIT: I didn't say they were going to be better than last season. Just that they'll win enough games to kill their chances for a high pick (which is what you want to have on a strong draft)

[DPG21920]

Oh, I see what you are saying. I thought you were saying they would make the playoffs or something and not even get a top 14 pick.

Either way, no matter where they are at in the lottery, it's quite clear what path they should take from where things stand today. Maybe something will shake loose (with LAL, it always seemingly does) that will change the variables, but either way, they are likely headed for a bad season and cap space next year with only Nash on the books (barring them trading for someone with a longer contract or signing a FA...).

The point is they should get as much as they can this year as well vs foolishly holding on to what little assets they have too long and paying any Luxury Tax.

[ElNono]

Oh, I see what you are saying. I thought you were saying they would make the playoffs or something and not even get a top 14 pick.

Either way, no matter where they are at in the lottery, it's quite clear what path they should take from where things stand today. Maybe something will shake loose (with LAL, it always seemingly does) that will change the variables, but either way, they are likely headed for a bad season and cap space next year with only Nash on the books (barring them trading for someone with a longer contract or signing a FA...).

The point is they should get as much as they can this year as well vs foolishly holding on to what little assets they have too long and paying any Luxury Tax.

They should flip Nash/Gasol for some cheap, short term contracts and more picks for the next draft. You know, the lopsided trades they normally do. And tank hard.

The problem is that I see Cancer sabotaging a plan like that.

[DPG21920]

They should flip Nash/Gasol for some cheap, short term contracts and more picks for the next draft. You know, the lopsided trades they normally do. And tank hard.

The problem is that I see Cancer sabotaging a plan like that.

At a minimum they should do that plus amnesty MWP, but I agree, they likely wont.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

So if Kobe is worse and the team overall is worse (Nash, MWP & Gasol were all there last season too), how could they do better than last year? Last year was barely a playoff team and if they are any worse, they are a lottery pick team.

cause they had no chemistry and Howard couldn't make a ft? Plus they had Pau at the wing and he's a post up PF

[TheGoldStandard]

It would be something that they finish with a modestly bad record 30-52 and are in the lottery and by some miracle they get it.. Would kind of be a parting shot from Stern who said the league was fixed under his watch, lol. Conspiracy Theory

[DPG21920]

cause they had no chemistry and Howard couldn't make a ft? Plus they had Pau at the wing and he's a post up PF

They aren't better with injured Kobe, no Dwight, no Jamison, no Clark. They will be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.

[cjw]

By getting out of the luxury tax, they not only save significant money this year but would reset the repeater tax status (saving even more $ in future) and also get access to the full mid level in a year or two when Lebron and co are free agents to replenish the bench.

but Kobe is too full of himself to take one for the betterment of the franchise.

[DPG21920]

Well, LA can get under the salary cap (thus avoiding the LT) by using the amnesty on MWP and moving Pau for little or no money in return. They don't have to amnesty Kobe to do that. It's just that they could have significant cap space by using the amnesty on Kobe and then moving Pau.

[Baam]

Damn I want Asik on the team so badly... Would change everything, we'd go from shitty rebounding to great...

[benefactor]

Now I just don't want Rockets to get Ryan Anderson as well.

They're trying to trade Asik for him. Anderson would be perfect for them now.
I would love for them to get Anderson. Dude is a huge playoff choker. His production literally falls off a cliff in the postseason.

[NickiRasgo]

Do Lakers have 1st round pick next season?

[picnroll]

There are at least seven teams in the west Lakers haven't got a snowballs chance in hell of having a better record than. With how old and thin they are I'd bet the farm they're lottery bound. I think they'll pay lip service to making a game of it bit be in full tank mode by Jan.

[picnroll]

Do Lakers have 1st round pick next season?

Yes

[NickiRasgo]

Yes

Oh no. Might be a blessing in disguise. I won't be surprise for them to get the 1st Overall Pick if they will tank this coming season. I thought they gave picks whey they acquired Nash and Howard.

[Obstructed_View]

So if Kobe is worse and the team overall is worse (Nash, MWP & Gasol were all there last season too), how could they do better than last year? Last year was barely a playoff team and if they are any worse, they are a lottery pick team.

They could play team basketball and some sort of defense. I'm not saying they will, but I'm saying they could. Talent that doesn't play well together is <<<< a good team with less talent.

[Biggems]

I just saw that the Pacers signed Copeland.....that was a very nice move for them, strengthen their bench and weaken a conference foe (Knicks) at the same time. Just think, if they can afford to sign Neal as well, their bench has definitely been upgraded this offseason.

[coyotes_geek]

They could play team basketball and some sort of defense. I'm not saying they will, but I'm saying they could. Talent that doesn't play well together is <<<< a good team with less talent.

I do think there's something to this. Dwight's departure not only removes an on court/off court distraction, it's going to fire up Kobe and the others. Do I think that's going to be enough to get them the 8th seed? No, but there's still a lot of offseason left.

[Obstructed_View]

I do think there's something to this. Dwight's departure not only removes an on court/off court distraction, it's going to fire up Kobe and the others. Do I think that's going to be enough to get them the 8th seed? No, but there's still a lot of offseason left.

I meant they'd play team basketball before Kobe comes back from injury. Kobe's fired up to make sure he cements his personal stats before his career ends. He shit all over last year's team putting up gaudy numbers. I don't see that changing.

[Darkwaters]

I do think there's something to this. Dwight's departure not only removes an on court/off court distraction, it's going to fire up Kobe and the others. Do I think that's going to be enough to get them the 8th seed? No, but there's still a lot of offseason left.

No matter how fired up Kobe is, I don't think it's going to make much of a difference for a while.

http://www.swaggstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/0413-kobe-and-wife-instagram-3.jpg

[coyotes_geek]

I meant they'd play team basketball before Kobe comes back from injury. Kobe's fired up to make sure he cements his personal stats before his career ends. He shit all over last year's team putting up gaudy numbers. I don't see that changing.

I misunderstood you then. I think a stat whoring Kobe lakers team is still going to be good enough to win 35 games or so, but the lakers without Kobe are just going to be awful no matter how good the chemistry.

[Big P]

Now I just don't want Rockets to get Ryan Anderson as well.

They're trying to trade Asik for him. Anderson would be perfect for them now.

Marc Stein: Have it on strong authority Pelicans not only haven't talked to Rockets about Asik sign-and-trade but likewise have no interest in him Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

[Big P]

Jared Zwerling: Hearing the Spurs are in hot pursuit of Kenyon Martin. #Knicks still in play, among others. Twitter JaredZwerling

[Drom John]

Eww, that's a crappy deal.

Jose Calderon was 31st in WS in 2012-2013
Josh Smith had the 31st highest salary in 2012-2013 at $13,200,000.

Dallas got a good deal for Calderon.

[Obstructed_View]

I misunderstood you then. I think a stat whoring Kobe lakers team is still going to be good enough to win 35 games or so, but the lakers without Kobe are just going to be awful no matter how good the chemistry.

Well Kobe can win regular season games with his numbers, that's true. What I meant was I don't think he's going to suddenly be fired up to win games at the expense of his stats since he didn't do it last year when he actually had a pretty talented roster joining him.

[TheGreatYacht]

Jared Zwerling: Hearing the Spurs are in hot pursuit of Kenyon Martin. #Knicks still in play, among others. Twitter Jared (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15660)Zwerling353379449095471104

[Samr.]

Just remember, a little past this time last year, Lakers were consensus world beaters. They had the "best team in the NBA, period."

[Strategic]

Though he's not on the blocks and I never hear anyone here say they like his game, I would be interested if the Spurs traded a couple of expiring contracts for Channing Frye. His enlarged heart was diagnosed well over a year ago. Any thoughts or new about Frye?

[AFBlue]

If the Knicks are still in play then Martin won't end up with Spurs. Skill-wise he's an upgrade over Blair...no idea if he fits with the system or no-nonsense culture.

[coyotes_geek]

Kmart would just be a league min end of the bench guy. Ok if we get him, ok if we don't.

[MeloHype]

Hope we get him tbh, he can defend well, and do the dirty work for us

[spurraider21]

For Spurs, it's better to have Howard going to Rockets than to Lakers because it removes a team with cap space.

Right now these are the team with more than the MLE in cap sapce:
Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Milwaukee, Orlando, Philadelphia and Sacramento.

I really hope Spurs will pick the cap space + room exception option. I feel it's now a buyers market.
And if Kirilenko was adamant in playing for a contender, this list of teams bodes well for us

[Jwash_1986]

Why do people keep discussing amnesty Kobe Bryant is like some type of option? That's like saying amnesty Tim Duncan, fuck it.

[Baam]

I kinda like the idea of Kenyon because like Marion he has deceptively quick feets and could relay Boris on Lebron.

I know we were excited about Kawhi on Lebron but we had the most success with bigger guys on smaller guys :
Green on Curry
Kawhi on Tompson
Boris on Lebron
Kawhi on Wade

That was the best matchups, and Kenyon can do it just like Boris did.

[look_at_g_shred]

And if Kirilenko was adamant in playing for a contender, this list of teams bodes well for us
I thought the room exception was to be used on Marco??

[look_at_g_shred]

Suck my dick, Bitch. :wakeup
Ok. How old are u? I'd say 16

[benefactor]

353543350437158912

Hmm..............:lmao

[Obstructed_View]

Why do people keep discussing amnesty Kobe Bryant is like some type of option? That's like saying amnesty Tim Duncan, fuck it.

Kobe has one year left on his contract worth $30m, and he's injured. If he's not projected to play or contribute next season, why not amnesty him? He can still rehab and you re-sign him to a new deal next year. You're still paying him his salary, you just aren't paying the luxury tax associated with it.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why do people keep discussing amnesty Kobe Bryant is like some type of option? That's like saying amnesty Tim Duncan, fuck it.Not really because Tim Duncan is not overpaid like Kobe. Kobe is going to earn around $30M this year I believe and possibly miss most of the year rehabbing.

[Chinook]

I kinda like the idea of Kenyon because like Marion he has deceptively quick feets and could relay Boris on Lebron.

I know we were excited about Kawhi on Lebron but we had the most success with bigger guys on smaller guys :
Green on Curry
Kawhi on Tompson
Boris on Lebron
Kawhi on Wade

That was the best matchups, and Kenyon can do it just like Boris did.

Diaw wasn't really that good on James. Literally, the only reason why he didn't get destroyed was because James was passive most of the time. That's not to say Diaw didn't show good mobility and sound defensive technique. But it was clear he was too slow to guard James when he wasn't shooting jumpers or trying to back him down. In no way, shape or form would I consider Diaw to be the best option the team has to defend James. He's probably third right now.

[Baam]

Diaw wasn't really that good on James. Literally, the only reason why he didn't get destroyed was because James was passive most of the time. That's not to say Diaw didn't show good mobility and sound defensive technique. But it was clear he was too slow to guard James when he wasn't shooting jumpers or trying to back him down. In no way, shape or form would I consider Diaw to be the best option the team has to defend James. He's probably third right now.

Yeah you also think Green is the best one lol. Boris was fantastic and a lot of it came from taking the option of working in the post away.

[Baam]

Anyone with eyes saw that Boris was best Bronbron defender.

[Jwash_1986]

Not really because Tim Duncan is not overpaid like Kobe. Kobe is going to earn around $30M this year I believe and possibly miss most of the year rehabbing.
But you still don't amnesty him we all know that. As logical as it sounds it'll never happen, that's LA's golden child.

[SpursRock20]

Anyone with eyes saw that Boris was best Bronbron defender.
No one made Lebron do anything. Not even Kawai. Lebron got what he wanted when he wanted the whole series. The only reason he struggled at the beginning of the series is because he was settling. Our defensive gameplan was to not let the others beat us and let Lebron get what he wanted.

[Jwash_1986]

Kobe has one year left on his contract worth $30m, and he's injured. If he's not projected to play or contribute next season, why not amnesty him? He can still rehab and you re-sign him to a new deal next year. You're still paying him his salary, you just aren't paying the luxury tax associated with it.
Didn't see it that way. I really don't have much knowledge on those things. I'm still learning though and what you said makes sense.

[Chinook]

Yeah you also think Green is the best one lol. Boris was fantastic and a lot of it came from taking the option of working in the post away.

No, nothing came from that. When Diaw guarded James, he had his two best performance, and they led to Spurs losses. Diaw needed a lot more help than Leonard or Green needed (mainly because Duncan was shadowing), so the defense in general was worse, even if James' post game was dampened (it wasn't). Lebron just kept blowing by Diaw when he needed a basket. Those two factors explain why Diaw had such a bad plus-minus in Game 7.

[Obstructed_View]

But you still don't amnesty him we all know that. As logical as it sounds it'll never happen, that's LA's golden child.

If you mean because he's an immature pouting pussy whose ego wouldn't be able to handle it even if it saved his organization huge amounts of money and helped his team, I agree. His fragile vagina is the only reason not to amnesty his dumb ass.

[Baam]

No, nothing came from that. When Diaw guarded James, he had his two best performance, and they led to Spurs losses. Diaw needed a lot more help than Leonard or Green needed (mainly because Duncan was shadowing), so the defense in general was worse, even if James' post game was dampened (it wasn't). Lebron just kept blowing by Diaw when he needed a basket. Those two factors explain why Diaw had such a bad plus-minus in Game 7.

LeBron mostly shot jumper over everyone in game 7...

Lots of revisionist history here.

[Obstructed_View]

Didn't see it that way. I really don't have much knowledge on those things. I'm still learning though and what you said makes sense.
See my post above. Your take has merit. When you build a monster by feeding that ego for almost two decades, expect to keep feeding it or have it turn on you.

[Jwash_1986]

If you mean because he's an immature pouting pussy whose ego wouldn't be able to handle it even if it saved his organization huge amounts of money and helped his team, I agree. His fragile vagina is the only reason not to amnesty his dumb ass.
Yea he doesn't know what the word "sacrifice" means. That word probably doesn't even register in his foreign vocabulary either.

[Chinook]

LeBron mostly shot jumper over everyone in game 7...

Lots of revisionist history here.

No revisionist history. Lebron's jumpers explain why the Heat won that game. But Lebron beating Diaw explains why Diaw had poor numbers. He wasn't shooting over Boris; he was going around him. It was the Spurs' game plan to let James shoot jumpers. That he did that was not Leonard's or Green's fault. It was Diaw's fault that he wasn't able to stay with James.

[Obstructed_View]

No revisionist history. Lebron's jumpers explain why the Heat won that game. But Lebron beating Diaw explains why Diaw had poor numbers. He wasn't shooting over Boris; he was going around him. It was the Spurs' game plan to let James shoot jumpers. That he did that was not Leonard's or Green's fault. It was Diaw's fault that he wasn't able to stay with James.

You seriously didn't watch the finals, dude.

[TheGreatYacht]

But you still don't amnesty him we all know that. As logical as it sounds it'll never happen, that's LA's golden child.True, the man puts butts in seats. I mean we just experienced a similar scenario with our own Spurs. A lot of objective fans like myself wanted Ginobili out of the team or to resign for the veteran's minimum. What happened? FO went with the loyalty route and overpaid a 35 year old SG (more like 39 because of the intensity he plays with and the beating he's taken throughout his career) a good $7M year contract when that extra $$$ could have come in handy in helping us sign a better FA than Belinelli. I'm still hopeful that the FO has A's under their sleeve and can bring in a decent player.

[Baam]

No revisionist history. Lebron's jumpers explain why the Heat won that game. But Lebron beating Diaw explains why Diaw had poor numbers. He wasn't shooting over Boris; he was going around him. It was the Spurs' game plan to let James shoot jumpers. That he did that was not Leonard's or Green's fault. It was Diaw's fault that he wasn't able to stay with James.

LeBron never successfully posted Boris that's a fact. Now I don't remember every minute of game 7 but it was still obvious that Boris did the best job overall.

[Chinook]

You seriously didn't watch the finals, dude.

I made a thread quantifying the team's performance against the Big Three and Co. Not only did I watch the Finals, but I did so again and again.

[DatBoyGood]

Jeff Pendergraph??

[benefactor]

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[Chinook]

LeBron never successfully posted Boris that's a fact. Now I don't remember every minute of game 7 but it was still obvious that Boris did the best job overall.

There are multiple ways to post someone up. He never backed Diaw down, but he did post then blow by him. Diaw did a great job at moving his feet earlier in the series, but by the end, James was clearly beating him.

[Jwash_1986]

Yea he doesn't know what the word "sacrifice" means. That word probably doesn't even register in his foreign vocabulary either.
It's sad, and its hard but its fair. I kind of like seeing this happen to the Lakers because not because I'm spiteful or anything. It's because there organization and fans think there perfect in every sense and that there Gods gift to earth. My lady is a Lakers fan and first thing she said when they lost Howard was "he wasn't bout that life", really? She just doesn't know what she's in for this year as a lakers fan. Hell she almost broke 2 tvs last Lakers season, I'm a lil scared of the outcome this season.

[Chinook]

353553014281351168

Can he shoot threes?

[TheGreatYacht]

Kobe has one year left on his contract worth $30m, and he's injured. If he's not projected to play or contribute next season, why not amnesty him? He can still rehab and you re-sign him to a new deal next year. You're still paying him his salary, you just aren't paying the luxury tax associated with it.Fans won't see it that way though. They'll take the amnesty as an insult, especially with Jim Buss running the show. Just look at our own fans. Everyone was worried that Manu would retire or play for a different team, even though we all know deep down that if the FO had asked him to take less $$$ he might have done it or maybe they did but he's just being greedy. Who know how the talk played out. I still think Manu should have taken the initiative to make a little sacrifice on his salary for the team. TD and TP did it.

[Baam]

There are multiple ways to post someone up. He never backed Diaw down, but he did post then blow by him. Diaw did a great job at moving his feet earlier in the series, but by the end, James was clearly beating him.

Who was the best Lebron defender?

[Texas_Ranger]

6 bigs on a team. One's got to go... could it be bonner???

[TheGreatYacht]

353553014281351168Who the fuc* is that?

[Chinook]

Who was the best Lebron defender?

Leonard. He was the hammer constantly pounding James.

[Jwash_1986]

True, the man puts butts in seats. I mean we just experienced a similar scenario with our own Spurs. A lot of objective fans like myself wanted Ginobili out of the team or to resign for the veteran's minimum. What happened? FO went with the loyalty route and overpaid a 35 year old SG (more like 39 because of the intensity he plays with and the beating he's taken throughout his career) a good $7M year contract when that extra $$$ could have come in handy in helping us sign a better FA than Belinelli. I'm still hopeful that the FO has A's under their sleeve and can bring in a decent player.
That's what it all comes down too. You think Belinelli will be a good addition?

[DPG21920]

Well, there were reports of the Spurs being hot after a league minimum PF (Kenyon Martin..), so maybe this fills that void for them for whatever reason.

[Baam]

Leonard. He was the hammer constantly pounding James.

I think it's close but I wasn't impressed ultimately. Liked him better on Wade.

[barakz21]

Alright, anybody got the goods on this Pendergraph sigining???

[Chinook]

I think it's close but I wasn't impressed ultimately. Liked him better on Wade.

We all did. Wade isn't as good as James is, so Leonard was more sucessful against him. But Kawhi had to guard James during all the big moments. The fact that he held James down for so long is beyond admirable.

[TheGreatYacht]

That's what it all comes down too. You think Belinelli will be a good addition?Ah, he's a slightly better and bigger version than Gary Neal. Statistically, Neal is slightly better than Belinelli as far as shooting FG% goes. I don't think that Belinelli will shoot the contested jumpers that Gary Neal did, in other words, we won't be wishing that Belinelli get cut on the spot as much as we did with Neal just because of the better shot selection.

[Baam]

So is Pendergraph a Bonner replacement or an option as backup 3?

[Chinook]

So is Pendergraph a Bonner replacement or an option as backup 3?

He's a legitimate big with really good athleticism who hustles hard and can hit from mid-range. He's definitely not a three.

[benefactor]

Boylen was in charge of development of the Pacers bigs. It's almost a certainty that he told Pop and RC that Pendergraph was worth going after.

[palangi]

Who the fuc* is that?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jeff-Pendergraph-1165/

good size and length


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z9YIp8d-G4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHKMa8g4tB0

[manufan10]

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[Jwash_1986]

Ah, he's a slightly better and bigger version than Gary Neal. Statistically, Neal is slightly better than Belinelli as far as shooting FG% goes. I don't think that Belinelli will shoot the contested jumpers that Gary Neal did, in other words, we won't be wishing that Belinelli get cut on the spot as much as we did with Neal just because of the better shot selection.
Some people on here were saying the offense and system spurs have will increase Belinelli numbers, because of the open looks out shooters get. I looked him up on YouTube and I like when he would put it on the floor and drop it off. Not saying he's Manu but i seen flashes from the video I watched.

[manufan10]

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[DPG21920]

How come all the contract details of everyone but the Spurs players come out?

[TheGreatYacht]

Some people on here were saying the offense and system spurs have will increase Belinelli numbers, because of the open looks out shooters get. I looked him up on YouTube and I like when he would put it on the floor and drop it off. Not saying he's Manu but i seen flashes from the video I watched.I agree. This kid will probably have better numbers as far as shooting goes because he'll get open looks that he's never had throughout his career playing in our system. I hope this kid turns out good for us.

[Chinook]

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I wonder if it's the Room exception (so $2.6 Million a year) or the minimum (so $2.6 Million total).


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He has a de-facto no-trade clause now. That's a great thing to have when you're on that team.

[DPG21920]

It's a min deal for Garcia

[elemento]

That's a great deal for Garcia

[Obstructed_View]

Fans won't see it that way though. They'll take the amnesty as an insult, especially with Jim Buss running the show.

Kobe and Kobefans would be up in arms about it. They're in the same boat of denial that he is.

[Obstructed_View]

Is Pendergraph really only 6'9"? He looks way bigger than that in those videos.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Is Pendergraph really only 6'9"? He looks way bigger than that in those videos.
DraftExpress has him at 6'8.75 without shoes, and 6'10 with shoes.

[benefactor]

Yeah...he's almost 6'9 without shoes. He's a legit 6'10.

[Obstructed_View]

DraftExpress has him at 6'8.75 without shoes, and 6'10 with shoes.

Okay. BR and ESPN have him listed at 6'9", which is why I pictured him more like Dice. He's definitely a big body.

[DesignatedT]

I like the way this guy looks.

[Spurs Brazil]

@WojYahooNBA
Portland has reached agreement on a two-year deal with free agent Dorell Wright, league source tells Y! Sport

[raybies]

Adrian Wojnarowski@WojYahooNBA (http://www.spurstalk.com/WojYahooNBA?p=s)

2m (http://www.spurstalk.com/WojYahooNBA/status/353572431102869504?p=p)



Portland has reached agreement on a two-year deal with free agent Dorell Wright, league source tells Y! Sports.






Lilard/ ?
Matthews/ ?
Batum/ Wright
Aldridge/ Robinson
Lopez/ Leonard

[ElNono]

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[Texas_Ranger]

So Belinelli and Wright are worth the same...

[Robz4000]

Better Portland than OKC tbh. Thunder may actually have to run Westbrick and Durant into the ground a bit to get a high seed next year.

[loveforthegame]

Damn. I liked Wright. But better to be in Portland than OKC. :tu

[Bruno]

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What is interesting is that it's a deal signed with the room exception and woj reports it as "aproximately $6M", exactly like he did with the Belinelli contract...

[Baam]

What is interesting is that it's a deal signed with the room exception and woj reports it as "aproximately $6M", exactly like he did with the Belinelli contract...

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/a-chance.gif

[kobyz]

Adrian Wojnarowski@WojYahooNBA (http://www.spurstalk.com/WojYahooNBA?p=s)

2m (http://www.spurstalk.com/WojYahooNBA/status/353572431102869504?p=p)



Portland has reached agreement on a two-year deal with free agent Dorell Wright, league source tells Y! Sports.






Lilard/ ?
Matthews/ ?
Batum/ Wright
Aldridge/ Robinson
Lopez/ Leonard

Damian Lillard/CJ McCollum
Wesley Matthwes/Will Barton/Sasha Pavlovic/Allen Crabbe
Nicolas Batum/Dorell Wright/Victor Claver
LaMarcus Aldridge/Thomas Robinson
Robin Lopez/Meyers Leonard/Joel Freeland

[Darkwaters]

Better Portland than OKC tbh. Thunder may actually have to run Westbrick and Durant into the ground a bit to get a high seed next year.

I just saw this too. That was my first thought. Glad that OKC didn't snag him.

They might need to start thinking about a trade to fill this need.

[benefactor]

Someone mentioned this in the Pendergraph thread, but it bears repeating...the Spurs have not rescinded the QO to Neal as far as we know, so they very easily could use him in a sign and trade for a SF. Just letting folks know that option is still alive.

[raybies]

Damian Lillard/CJ McCollum
Wesley Matthwes/Will Barton/Sasha Pavlovic/Allen Crabbe
Nicolas Batum/Dorell Wright/Victor Claver
LaMarcus Aldridge/Thomas Robinson
Robin Lopez/Meyers Leonard/Joel Freeland

I think they got the bench depth they needed. Top 8 in the west, especially if McCollum turns out.

[benefactor]

Garcia with the "cooler heads prevailing" goods.

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[Baam]

^ The red sea parted itself for the Spurs last season, major injuries, 7th, 6th and 5th seed. 10 days of rest before the Finals...

And Manu is bound to get worse and worse at this point.

[benefactor]

Wasn't speaking to you tbh.